satisfactory

[feral vector]

well in addition to coal

[west jackal]

out of all on the map (all extractors at 250%) and this is including wells

but im doing relatively large builds 🤷

like im processing all 12300 bauxite on the map

[next scarab]

Does anyone know how to switch to version 1.2?(if it`s available)

[west jackal]

are you on pc or console

and if pc, steam or epic?

@next scarab

[reef basin]

epic - separate game
steam - betas

[west jackal]

cmon man you stole my thunder! I knew the answer!!!

[next scarab]

pc steam

[west jackal]

greeny answered already, but if youre on steam, you click the settings button on game page in library, then you click betas and versions, then click experimental

[dense violet]

then right click and go to betas

as greeny mentioned

[clear ivy]

how has it been two years and they still haven't changed asphalt foundation not being symmetrical

[west jackal]

dont go there. dont make me see something i cant unsee

[dense violet]

I hope they make more things assymetrical

[rigid wedge]

[dense violet]

and everything clipped to world grid gets shifted

[clear ivy]

i tried copying the emote

menace

[dense violet]

and that the world grid explodes anyone trying to use it

[reef basin]

remove world grid and instead make the hotkey for WG snap things to random grid every time it's used

[cold berry]

I want my next save to use the world grid. I also want to learn to make curved roads

I hope it's easy. (It won't be somehow)

[dense violet]

so you want to go off grid while being on the grid

better get dry while having a shower

[cold berry]

Off-grid highways that connect back to the grid was my idea

[west jackal]

what does it say about me that i am chosing to use pure iron to convert 7200 iron/min into ingots instead of just standard recipe (only need aroun 6k ore/min with standard)

[dense violet]

even less reason to have all yoru factories on the world grid

truly pointless with only downsides

[normal orbit]

how are asphalt foundations not symmetrical?

[cold berry]

Fair. Is curved roads hard?

[dense violet]

not particularly. but you're g oing to have to clip things into each other anyway so why the world grid? all it does is restrict how and where you build

[cold berry]

I found an easy guide for curves ayyye.

I also found way too complex ones that sound like cancer to play with that gives slightly better curves

Not necessary at all lol

(To me)

[fiery pewter]

That's my question

[fiery pewter]

You like refineries.

[forest tangle]

Can anyone explain to me, using small words maybe?, What this screenshot of ratios is trying to tell me? #screenshots message

[dense violet]

not clear, wouldn't use whatever you got it from

[normal orbit]

4 foundries making aluminium ingots, 1 refinery making scrap and 5 constructors making silica? idk

[distant hill]

I'm stuck in the MAM menu, I was looking at something when a hard drive completed, now I can't click confirm and I can't get out of the MAM...

[dense violet]

try alt tabbing

[distant hill]

Solution found, open item 'in codex' from within the MAM, let me get out

[fiery pewter]

#satisfactory-memes message
Bro just yoinked it from the CSS YT channel and thought we wouldn't notice

[west jackal]

not really, i just like wasting power aparently

over 6 GW to process 7200 ore into ingots using pure alt

I just hope one day to make ada proud

Although its not looking good bc she gets realy mad when I kill beans

[twin parcel]

quickwire stator vs normal stator ? why would someone use quickwire stator?

[reef basin]

to save on steel pipes?

[twin parcel]

ah

am i saving quickwire if i use plastic ai limiter?

[reef basin]

it's pretty easy to check 🙂

how much QW do you need per product in each recipe? 🙂

(I could give you the answer directly, but comparing recipes/recipe chains is a very useful skill you should learn)

[sterile blade]

Numbers of machines for Silica and Alu Ingots to make for every 1 Alu Scrap Refinery?

[gentle nova]

How long does every update take?

[dense violet]

few months

[twin parcel]

how much motors does someone need for constructions? 5/min enough ?

[blazing parcel]

I was happily watching the Stin Archi Youtube channel with his amazing builds - and it suddenly disappeared. I don't think he does Satisfactory anymore but he was such a great inspiration.

[sterile blade]

I personally aim for about that number, yes ^^
Early game it might feel low as you need them for unlocks, but other than that it's fine Imo

[oblique aspen]

always have to imagine that it refills while you do all the other things, so once you are through the initial demand, eventually a bin is full of them, and you'll never use them up

maybe if you are spamming blueprints for a megafactory at worst your DD might empty out 😛

[sterile blade]

Oh dang... Either they got hacked or something as sudden might have happened the past month or so...
I don't see any mention of their disappearance yet, but the channel seems unreachable :/

I'm thinking "past month" because of the lack of people mentioning this and how the channel link is still up and on top of the rankings on Google

[blazing parcel]

He disappeared yesterday

[sterile blade]

I'm guessing your Playlist played one last video before giving issues loading the next? Or did it outright stop during a video?

[blazing parcel]

I was halfway through a video and it disappeared overnight

I will never know how he was going to use train tracks to do curved buildings!

[sterile blade]

You watched part of it, left then came back?
(Just curious about the technical details)

[blazing parcel]

Yes, watched the start, stopped, next morning it was private and his channel is no longer visible

[sterile blade]

Well, "private" is quite less worrying than just deleted...

[blazing parcel]

Let's hope he comes back then.

[twin parcel]

60/min steel beam + pipes enough for construction ?

[fluid sapphire]

More than enough to fill your entire world with frame foundations, I make 30 and never run out, use them a lot

[rich parrot]

It is not really about the per minute production, but about buffer containers and depots. You could have 20/min slowly filling 4-8 large containers and 2-4 depots behind them. Even with a massive build it would be hard to run out (assuming that you are doing other construction too and not just spammin beams).

[twin parcel]

i see , i just wanna make sure i have enough so it doesnt steal items and prevent a production of other items

[rich parrot]

That depends on the rest of your production. If you are producing and consuming 60/min and buffers are filling with overflow, then you will never get overflow and might run out. If your productions consume 40/min with 20/min overflow, you will be fine.

[reef basin]

make separate factory for every item and then you don't have to steal items 🙂

[cedar token]

how do you customise walls? and make windows

[fiery pewter]

It all starts with unlocking the AWESOME Sink and AWESOME Shop

You sink excess resources in the sink and get points for tickets

Those tickets can be used in the shop to buy cosmetics and usefull buildables like conveyor wall supports

Keep in mind that the amount of points per ticket increases after each ticket accumulated

[lilac monolith]

You also need a steady supply of quartz for windows. I tend to not bother making pretty factories until mid to late game as most of my early factories get torn down and repurposed

[long plank]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-punch-mikael-niazi-hit-face-gif-8696109118006592181

[cedar token]

ughhh i just destroyed my whole bio power system to transition to coal and i dont have enough resources to build enough power plants

[coral marsh]

greatest thing is, you only need 30-60 quartz crystal per minute into a dimensional depot to have that steady supply. so nothing extraneous makes it fun

[coral marsh]

build your bio back up

the only other option is to hand craft everything you need

[cedar token]

ik its just a bit annoying

[coral marsh]

oh absolutely

i understand that pain

do you know the rough number of bio burners you already had down if not the total power you ahd consumed when they where all running?

[wet inlet]

The pain of early builds

[coral marsh]

just makes it easier when you remember values ofc, gathering leaves is easy and turning it into solid biofuel is also easy

[wet inlet]

I totally rushed for coals every time

[wet inlet]

Or kill the beasties

That's more renewable than the plants

[lilac monolith]

True! But I like to hold off as I spent way too long making something look good just to tear it apart when I first started playing the game. My current play through has no walls yet and it's going against every fibre of my soul. BUT I have made great progress this time

[coral marsh]

i used to as well, now i wanna take my time and i've deleted both worlds for a new start in the redwood forest, i've picked an area not too far from base for a lot of bio burners on platofrms so i wanna try and get either 1 or 2GW going before i transition to hopefully 10 or 20gw of coal

[wet inlet]

Same. Just a couple of walls to almost simulate loadbearing for floors above, but they are mostly open at the moment.

On the other hand though, I can't seem to think of the time it would take to rebuild and prettify the factories... I still have other survival+builder games to find time to actually finish~

[coral marsh]

i intend to offset/overproduce some items in factory lines to fill a DD and make other components, with a small off set of converged belts into sinks to keep it all going

modular frames for example and reinforced plates, probably try for 20-30 a minute with 5 or 10 being offset for storage/sinking and continue the process upwards

[wet inlet]

That feeling when you ran out of sheets when laying down a road, and the sink is just trickling minimally.

[coral marsh]

i am unfamiliar

i did however have a blueprint for making 45 steamed copper sheets per minute on a world before i deleted it, i'm gonna go for those blueprints again when i get the mark2 designer

[lilac monolith]

I need to get into blueprints, I know I am being super slow with so much of my base productions. Manifolding is my current goto

[coral marsh]

my advice, if it comes to refineries and a recipe needing water, equalize (especially coal plants) to groups of 2, 4 or 6, i made a coal gen blueprint that was 4 of them each clocked to 167% so they consumed an even 75^3m of water a minute, totalling 300^3m of water per minute, allowing for 1 maxed (350% clock speed) water extractor per coal blueprint.

that designing and math also works out for coal nodes as well as a mk2 miner on a pure node doesn't need to be overclocked to supply 2 full blueprints

still need to use 2 power shards per coal gen and 11 per blueprint (+3 including the water extractor) keeping the count still low until such a time as you need more power, therefore more plants, miners and water extractors. each bleurprint produced 501Mw each and i had ahd 4 total down for 2.04Gw total

equalize to water if it is the higher value and equalize to the solid input if that is higher

try make it all even in even groups and things will be far easier for modualr desings as it makes it significantly easier to well, module them

[lilac monolith]

The Module mindset is where I am heading

So much more to learn though

[coral marsh]

module is far better than load balancer imo

[edgy python]

Can anyone help me fix this issue quickly, my ADA doesnt say anything even though i hear the chime of her loading but after that my audio cuts out or smth.

and its for all my communications

not just the most recent one#

[bronze kindle]

sup!! quick question about trains:

I want to ship packaged turbofuel to my power plant. How do you calculate how much the train needs to bring so it doesn’t run out while the train is on its round trip?

Do you just do consumption per minute × travel time + some buffer? Use two trains ? How can i recycle the canisters?...

Also: do most people build turbofuel at the oil and ship it, or produce it directly at the power plant?

Thanks!

[rich parrot]

I think 95 % of players produce and burn the turbo at the same place.

[bronze kindle]

so i just build pipes till there and produce it right there

perfect

tho, i am still wonderin how to calculate the train thing for other things

[leaden turret]

if you go into the inbox and manually click play, does it work?

[rich parrot]

If you are producing items 1000/min at point A and consume that much at point B, time the roundtrip of the train and remember to add 30 seconds of loading/unloading animation on both ends. So if the trip is 2 minutes per way, it will be a 2 + 2 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 5 minute trip. 5 * 1000/min = 5000 items per roundtrip. A single train car is 3200 items, so your train needs at least two cars. Three cars to play it safe (if there are other trains on same rails).

[bronze kindle]

thank you

i will remember that

[coral marsh]

5000 over 3 cars will allow you to half fill each car per trip

[bronze kindle]

do most ppl use crude oil tu fuel/polymer resin simply ?

[fluid sapphire]

You could always set your trains to leave when empty/full

[bronze kindle]

damn

didnt knew thats a thing

[rich parrot]

Also, you can set your train to full unload OR 999999 seconds, so it only travels when it is empty.

[fluid sapphire]

That's how all of mine move, A to B, one type of product, only leave when empty or full

[coral marsh]

only reasons to use resin is to short top up on plastic or rubber, or make synthetic fabric for filters which you can buy from the shop anyway

[bronze kindle]

so can i also just sink it ?

[coral marsh]

yes

[hard ivy]

Or you could just set it to 'AND 0 seconds'

[coral marsh]

rubber, plastic and fabric made from polymer resin all need water as well

[bronze kindle]

or should i produce plastic/rubber, then conver heavy residue to fuel.. ?

[rich parrot]

Oh, that makes it infinite? I always thought it meant no wait.

[coral marsh]

if you need the extra rubber or plastic, sure, if not? don't bother

[fluid sapphire]

I do "AND wait for 0 seconds". I don't even know what that means mechanically, it seems to do nothing, which is exactly what you want for this type of setup

[bronze kindle]

well, idk if i will need more tbh

[lilac monolith]

"I'll never need those maths train questions in real life, why would I need to learn this" Oh the egg on my face right now

[fluid sapphire]

That's 5th grade math

[coral marsh]

there's better recipes than using polymer resin, for example, you can overproduce fuel and use plastic to create rubber or use rubber to create plastic. the recycled recipes are far better than using polymer resin

[lilac monolith]

It's just a joke matey xD

[hard ivy]

'or 0 seconds' would mean it leaves immediately

'and 0 seconds' means it waits 0 seconds (i.e. it doesn't wait at all) and then waits until it's fully loaded/unloaded

[bronze kindle]

well for now i do not have those, i'd say just sink the resin away or use it to produce a small amount of rubber/plastic since water is next to it anyway

[coral marsh]

if you need the extra rubber or plastic in the future, slightly over produce fuel from heavy oil, make an overflow into another refinery with a water extractor and make fabric, offset the resin input from HOR into a sinka nd you have your extra resources

[bronze kindle]

thanks for all the input

[coral marsh]

all goods

it's what i would do tbh

[fluid sapphire]

I use my resin to produce rubber/plastic for the dimensional depot, that way my real rubber/plastic factories have more overhead to send it elsewhere

It's perfect since you don't need a lot

[bronze kindle]

for the depot idea, should i use a smart splitter with a overflow option ?

would be smart i'd say atleast

[fluid sapphire]

Idk if I would say that's related to this specifically, I build everything like that anyway so everything runs constantly

[coral marsh]

building everything or near that with an overflow offset is a good idea regardless, most people set the overflow to a sink for a lot of items you can overproduce and overflow those into a DD with a second overflow set to a sink. keeping everything or at least those machines as close to if not bang on a constant of 100% efficiency

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but they waste more biomass that way. If I don't sink them I have to do less chainsawing

[coral marsh]

there are a few items that do not need to be sunk

biomass being the main one.

i had thought that much was obvious

[unkempt blade]

no no, when stuff runs it uses biomass so when it runs just to sink it's a waste

I of course would never sink biomass, it's my only source of power

[coral marsh]

no point in sinking it anyway

a sink needs 30mw and a burner only produces 30mw, netloss

[unkempt blade]

exactly, it just waste biomass and that isn't very efficient

[coral marsh]

which is why i thought there'd need to be clarificationon it

[unkempt blade]

I need to conserve all that precious oil and coal for making items. I can't be wasting it on fueling generators

[coral marsh]

i gotta ask, why is your profile pic just the "vomitting" emoji

[cold berry]

Oh man. I hope programmable splitters work like they sound like they do. That's going to help my computer factory immensely lol

[leaden turret]

programmable splitters are just smart splitters with more options

[unkempt blade]

because it's my favorite one #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

you might be disappointed

[ornate saffron]

they are smart splitters but you can stack options

[hard ivy]

they're smart spliiters with more filters per side

[leaden turret]

hands up who thinks programmable splitters should be renamed "Smart Splitter Mk.2"

[coral marsh]

again, why? (i'm not trying to be rude i'm just curious) why pick vomitting as a favorite

[unkempt blade]

why is yours some guy in a maid outfit?

[coral marsh]

it's me

that's literally me

[unkempt blade]

I like your apron

[leaden turret]

nikolai is a sentient kfc wall

[coral marsh]

thank you

[ornate saffron]

he was birthed in the Burtalist KFC

[coral marsh]

i've told this story many a time but i guess i can tell it again

[leaden turret]

burtalist kfc is just normal kfc except burt reynolds facial hair instead of the colonel's facial hair

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[leaden turret]

@void gorge found your new favourite restaurant

[coral marsh]

i was working at kfc in 2022, i had been talking to my manager (who's a really cool guy btw), about the possibility of me wearing the maid outfit to work one day because he too thought the fact that i owned one was pretty cool, so he let me wear it on a sunday mornign where it was basically jsut him and i for early morn setup, i got to wear it for about 2 hours and got too serve 2 customers, 1 on drive through and 1 on counter (who happened to be my managers mother), anyway, before ia hd to take it off to put on my actual uniform, i got him to take a pciture of me in it agaisnt that wall and the rest is history

[void gorge]

The fuck are you guys doing in 20 days ago?

[ornate saffron]

talking about architecture

[void gorge]

Hell yeah

[leaden turret]

pretty sure if you whipped that up in satisfactory before tomorrow's live stream you'd get featured in community highlights

[supple canopy]

yea and the worst thing is it has 3.3k upvotes. When I saw this shit it prompted me to do my own piece of advice list for new players because alt recipe tier list are such a plague https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1g4cng0/unpopular_opinions_new_players_must_read/

[void gorge]

Slides already generated

Rough

[leaden turret]

did my nomination make the cut? (see dms)

[void gorge]

No cuz you got it backwards

[leaden turret]

dlss 5 supposed to make things look more realistic tho 😛

[reef basin]

I mean... you cannot rank recipes, so best list is no list

[unkempt blade]

you forgot to mention that factory carts make everything better and using screws makes you morally superior to people who avoid screws

[void gorge]

And yet it ends up making things look more horrifying

And I'm not even a one-stop AI/filter hater

[normal orbit]

i agree, "new players must read" :p

[unkempt blade]

that's good because Claude is nearly done building my HMF factory and he's only messed up my entire train network three times so far doing it

[normal orbit]

realistic is making em look sweaty? :p

[leaden turret]

for everyone else's benefit, I nominated this: #satisfactory-memes message

[coral marsh]

what a fkin joke

[rough jacinth]

If I start a save in experimental branch, what are the chances it would break once its switched back to stable after 1.2 is released?

[reef basin]

close to zero

[rough jacinth]

Thats good

[fluid sapphire]

is there a reason we still have limits on lift height when its clearly possible to make longer ones by using floor holes

[void gorge]

So people will go... wait for it...

||INSANE||

[reef basin]

so that you can't make 2km lift in 2 seconds 😛

[leaden turret]

do you even conveyor lift, bro?

[leaden turret]

one supposes the main reason is there's no undo / edit option, so letting unfamiliar players place things unrestrained would cause more frustration than glee

[fluid sapphire]

but you could still delete it as a single entity, i dont see that as a particularly strong counter argument

the placement range is also still limited by player position like all other buildables, i think thats already a reasonable limitation

[fluid sapphire]

god forbid i spend 2 seconds on it instead of 30 😄

it doesnt take that much longer really, it'd just be nice not to have to line up floor holes for it :p

[reef basin]

well you could also just spend 2 seconds to paste a T5 factory across entire map 😛

things that take time should take time 😛

[fluid sapphire]

thats a pretty lazy slippery slope type argument, this is a small QoL quibble

[leaden turret]

if the slopes weren't slippery, you couldn't* parachute up them

[reef basin]

well my guess is that it wasn't intended to be possible to make infinitely long lift, so it wasn't given QoL

[void gorge]

The reason Conveyor Belts are limited is because the splines that are used when stretching them work off of floats, and in UE5 those spline floats become less accurate the longer you stretch

And Conveyor Lifts are limited to keep consistent with Belts, but since they are technically actual straight lines one could in theory "unleash" them

Inaccurate belt floats = the belt spline (and thus mesh) going wobbly after a certain point

[fluid sapphire]

i will wait for the day you might unleash them, just like you unleashed nudge limitations 😄

[leaden turret]

FICSIT doesn't want people sending thousands of conveyor belt lifts into orbit, gotta use the space elevator

[fluid sapphire]

for belts i can understand it

[knotty bear]

That's interesting

[lucid bloom]

Haven't tested it in 1.2 but in 1.1 you can make an infinitely high conveyor lift if you snap them to an conveyor floor hole

[fluid sapphire]

if you scroll up a bit, this is about future hopes of not having to do that

[abstract heron]

<@&370483737957236737> Happy Monday is there a video this Friday and how are you feeling with the time change and do streams start back a hr earlyer now

[lucid bloom]

Ah right. We can hope ;3

[knotty bear]

Are we going to see DLSS 5 in 1.3 /s

[reef basin]

in 2.7

[void gorge]

Nah, we're off Fri and Mon for Easter, streams still start at Swedish 16:00, that's <t:1774879200:t> in your timezone

[leaden turret]

nvidia didn't tell CSS about DLSS4 support, stands to reason they wouldn't tell them about DLSS5 support

[void gorge]

Felt 0 effects from the clock adjusting since I wake up 5-6AM every day anyway

[abstract heron]

and also 19,016hr TOTAL

[abstract heron]

Don't forget to say it in stream

[void gorge]

Do gotta keep earning my salary

[abstract heron]

THEN VIDEO next week

this week makes sense for holiday

[abstract heron]

Video next week?

[knotty bear]

I might watch a dev stream over spring break shortly.

[reef basin]

||I will pay you 30 exposure per hour if you work for me instead||

[void gorge]

Nah

Maybe

[abstract heron]

hows @obsidian zodiac with time change

[void gorge]

Me actively chasing less exposure

[reef basin]

well good thing you're in sweden, sun exposure is lower there

[void gorge]

Dunno haven't been to the dungeon yet

[abstract heron]

Really?

[knotty bear]

Oh right, I forgot, America has time change before like European countries.

[abstract heron]

on this one then its backwards in november

[void gorge]

You're right that's a lie actually, was this morning

[knotty bear]

I just realized power storage is able to daisy chain with itself quite simply, which would have been nice to know on my first power system

[abstract heron]

but is he SAVE in there?

[void gorge]

Nope

[velvet kindle]

Wonder what Mikael is cooking up for Wednesday

[reef basin]

then you realise that it's better to build more power than more power storage 😛

[abstract heron]

Also when 1.2 on stable and will there be trailer for 1.2 on stable?

[abstract heron]

AND when is next patch?

[void gorge]

Who knows, who knows, and today

[reef basin]

poor mikael getting 20 pings/min

[abstract heron]

today on EXP a patch 😮

[void gorge]

Do hit me up if you have options for less exposure

[reef basin]

~~there's that option called block user, if you block everyone, no exposure 😛 ~~

[abstract heron]

Whats the fix in the patch today on EXP?

can u give us a hint?

[knotty bear]

I quite often build a large factory, then realize that my power is going down slowly, and due to power storage I can fix power real quick, though I've kinda been relying on just overclocking a fuel setup for now to get more power, only 2600mw meanwhile my normal consumption is like, 2300, so anything I do for assembly can easily drain that without my notice. Adaptive control unit is a pain and I don't even know what the 500 parts next to it are or where to check. Isn't phase 3 like the third filter after biofuel and the intro?

[void gorge]

Think we're adding the second map today

[abstract heron]

OH WHATS WEDNESDAY DO A GOODD APRIL FOOLS JOKE

for stream tmr

[void cliff]

Ah man I wanna play satisfactory today so I should call out sick

[abstract heron]

how about me with 19,016hr TOTAL

[knotty bear]

156 hours and I think half of that is just screwing around in phase 3 we only started the ACU yesterday evening

[leaden turret]

@void gorge ||dare you to stream 0.1.2 instead of 1.2||

[void cliff]

Gotta be doing quite a bit of afking to hit those numbers

[knotty bear]

Only because we made computers to unlock inventory dimensional storage upgrade

[velvet kindle]

That would be hilarious

[twin parcel]

where is the best place tobuild circuit board factory ?

[abstract heron]

what recipe how many per minute

one recipe u need silica and copper

[twin parcel]

the one use silica copper

[abstract heron]

Find a quartz node and copper node close by

and then make a factory there

[knotty bear]

Should I finish tier 2

[abstract heron]

i am still on phase 4 on space elveator area

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[knotty bear]

I'm on phase 3 I just never unlocked jump pads or improved most production, if I need resources I just make a new factory at this point. I don't see the purpose for jump pad but like might as well?

[fluid sapphire]

no best place, but if its worth anything to you, i built mine at the small lake just north-west of blue crater

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=j720RcA7niO4lpInDcA7

there's also caterium nearby so it pairs well with caterium computer, if you import rubber

but you can look at some recipes and scout for locations yourself, thats half the battle usually

[ornate saffron]

i did quartz computer chains at this location ^_^

[fluid sapphire]

crystal computer? totally valid

[ornate saffron]

ya, I didnt have my plubber in that location so i just removed them all completely from the chain

[gentle nova]

Guys, is satisfactory js alot of math and problem solving? :>

[fluid sapphire]

my plastic and rubber are at lake forest, so i supply by train :p

[ornate saffron]

you can get away from the math using calculators like Satisfactoy tools for the most part. But there will always be problem solving and troubleshooting

[gentle nova]

Damn rlly, how long is the longest problem solve yall done?

[ornate saffron]

for the most part the game is logistics problems and factory layouts

[fluid sapphire]

you can soup your way through layouts, the meat of the game is generally some kind of logistics

[ornate saffron]

its mostly logistical problems for example

You need resource A to location 1 how will you do this

[rough shore]

is the outgoing transfer rate in the freight platform accurate or

[fluid sapphire]

i wouldnt trust it

[timid rune]

^

[fluid sapphire]

i never look at it

[timid rune]

should be able to finish my ficsionium processing tomorrow \o/

[fluid sapphire]

Broadly speaking two types of logistics problems, that's the macro scale, then there's also the micro scale of logistics inside the factory itself between machines and groups of machines

That's the more mathy side of it

[timid rune]

fluids is probably the slightly harder part but as long as you keep your pipe networks simple it should be ok

[lean fossil]

where can i upload vids.

I see it.

[ornate saffron]

really the whole game is a logistics challenge/problem in some form. If you like problem solving and troubleshooting its a great game

[timid rune]

even with satisfactory calculator doing a lot of the macro maths

the actual micro production bits are quite headache causing 😄

[ornate saffron]

depends on topic.

If you want to discuss #math-and-meta post there

if you want to discuss #design-and-architecture post there

it you want to promote your self #streams-and-videos

[lean fossil]

huh.interesting.

#design-and-architecture message

[ornate saffron]

Its all laid out in #welcome Im sure you read through it and the #rules

🙃

[gentle nova]

I got it spendt almost 20hrs in 2 days

[astral maple]

dude this game made me think like an actual human, each time I see a larger water pool the first thing that comes to my mind and immediately is "this a huge area for power source"

[cold berry]

I feel like a genius for this thought; I don't need to send cables, wire and copper sheets to my computer factory; I only need to send copper ingots, and process them on the bottom floor

[timid rune]

or even better, copper ore 😛

maybe next save I will do leached caterium ingots instead of pure for pushing 130 computers/min on a single normal copper and caterium node

[obsidian zodiac]

im okay leo thank you, also FYI were not sure when the next video will be. We'll share more when we know 🙂

[timid rune]

unfortunately pure copper > leached copper in terms of output ratios 🙁

[ornate saffron]

that'll happen

[fluid sapphire]

if anyone has an excess supply of quickwire in their world, send it to my world via train

[ornate saffron]

1.2?

[fluid sapphire]

1.1

[ornate saffron]

update to 1.2 and use SCIM to make all them cat nodes pure 😛

[fluid sapphire]

its not the lack of caterium, its my laziness xd
#screenshots message

[abstract heron]

okay 😛

[fluid sapphire]

never mind, its not actually going to be that bad, i sometimes forget just how quick it is to slap down dozens of machines with auto connect

as for belting and pipes between blocks, thats hopeless anyway

[spare prism]

@ornate saffron so guess who unlocked miner mk2 a d has to tear down my coal plant and rebuild bc I can't extend the base as the mountain is in the way 🙂

[vocal wolf]

do you guys ever get that feeling where you join back after a long break and dont get how shit runs

[fluid sapphire]

split off the new supply and take it elsewhere?

[spare prism]

Can't do

[ornate saffron]

Ya, i never come back to a old save for this reason. I just start fresh

[fluid sapphire]

on the contrary, i come back and pick up exactly where i left off

[spare prism]

And that's where I restart the game

[fluid sapphire]

build in a way thats trace-able, and use signs, and keep your stuff in a planner

the internal workings of any particular factory shouldnt matter once its finished

[ornate saffron]

I actually tore down my starter factory. I rarely do this. But in this case I built another factory that did the same out put with using only one iron node.

I decided to free up the copper node and three iron nodes for another facility

[fluid sapphire]

that seems so wasteful, and ficsit does not waste

[spare prism]

Let me grab something

[fluid sapphire]

it helps you treat it like programming, do it so an idiot in the future can understand it

that future idiot is yourself

i would have quit long ago if not for doing stuff like that

[daring bane]

Just started phase3 and contemplating how i wanna go about factories now if i should just make 1 megafactory where i bring everything, or just find nodes where I can craft for example motors, then another factory for heavy modulars etc... idk whats the better/cleaner

[reef basin]

megafactory is generally not recommended

[fluid sapphire]

its easier to divide into modules

[keen flame]

wait i didnt know you can get +6 inventory slots multiple times from mam research

i mean hard drive scanning

i've +12 for free now

what is it based on?

are there finite amounts that i can get for those

[reef basin]

yeah, two at most

[ornate saffron]

There is more inventory upgrades in the game then you can use i think. Eventually you'll max out your inventory slots.

[reef basin]

(and soon you won't need inventory slots anyway, so they aren't that good, but indeed nice to have)

[keen flame]

i already have depot

and i have 72 inventory slots right now

[keen flame]

in fact 3 stacks and 120/min

[fluid sapphire]

are there? i have 78 slots and havent encountered any more upgrades

[ornate saffron]

Thats max. It used to be 81

I also said I think. As I recall some not working but that could also be EA.

[fluid sapphire]

i do recall some mention of one upgrade not working correctly a few months ago, could still be the case

its been so long since i got my slots

[ornate saffron]

i started this save in late Jan/early Feb. No issues yet with inventory though i havent been counting or paying attention to upgrades

[edgy python]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057 does that look at least half organised / not complete spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

this is for #design-and-architecture

[edgy python]

sorry dont really use this server

i play satisfactory rather then talking abt it

[fluid sapphire]

looks alright to me, similar to how i go about belts, i posted an image underneath your own

[edgy python]

that looks so good and so confusing at the same time

is theres a reason to make 1000steel pipe /min

[ornate saffron]

sure the best reason is "I wana"

[fluid sapphire]

haha thanks, its a sushi line that recycles circuit boards in order to try to avoid filling the belt with circuit boards, since the belt they are coming from is always full - it looks a bit crazy but thats because there's 8 separate loops that do this and i tried to make it not clip anywhere

its this, but the silica and quickwire get merged into one before feeding into the line

#1487064678642487296 message

it might explode in my face, it was advised that i dont attempt this

[edgy python]

I love using steel in most alternate recipes. This factory has a target output of 25 heavy frame(50 with sommersloop i have 46gw powerplant) and 20 motors.

[ornate saffron]

I try to make custom solutions for each location. its what i find fun

[edgy python]

I dont know what any of that means ,for some reason whenever i get past phase 3 i restart.

[daring bane]

any tips for curved rails to make it look good w a foundation?

[fluid sapphire]

@ornate saffron #screenshots message

now i just have to build ingot processing, all the annoying stuff is done

[fluid sapphire]

i am feeding manufacturers with one belt instead of having a separate belt for each input

the way i am doing it brings some complications

[edgy python]

well im still traumatised from my first world ever i got to nuclear power and realised i dont make anything so now my ideology is make as much as i can

[edgy python]

why not have a seperate belt?

[spare prism]

@fluid sapphire why are you playing the game in black and white

this aint the 1900s

🤣

[fluid sapphire]

thats just the swamp my guy

[spare prism]

damn im missing out never been there

[edgy python]

is there anyway to clear that i hate the biome

[edgy python]

you should be grateful abt that

[fluid sapphire]

well, i do that elsewhere, i just thought it would be a fun challenge mostly

besides, with 32 manufacturers thats a lot of belts anyway

so i offload the beltwork into a more interesting system

[edgy python]

idk i was fine for my 150/min computer factory

although it was with godmode amde

made*

[fluid sapphire]

with all the tools the normal game mode gives it sure feels like we already have "creative mode"

[leaden turret]

we had creative mode before we had AGS, because SCIM

[fluid sapphire]

flying, basically infinite supplies with no inventory management, easy to make lots of power already

[ornate saffron]

we do. 1.2 renames it Creative mode i think

[fluid sapphire]

i know, my point is that i dont see a need for it personally :p

already feels like god mode

[clear ivy]

well if you just want to get the feel of making factories its great to not have to deal with not having materials

[west jackal]

Beefalo, I think i broke DeafBringer, he wanted to use 6.6k iron ore/min and I said no and so now we are using 3.5k but he was very unhappy with this arrangement

[ornate saffron]

Cluster Nobs are pretty quick at it

[edgy python]

im to lazy to transport the supplies to build a mega factory

[clear ivy]

good for tutorials and such

[fluid sapphire]

i already dont have to worry about materials because of dimensional depots

[clear ivy]

early game you don't have that luxury

[edgy python]

i just cant get myself to do the research

[ornate saffron]

Play the way you want. no need to defend your position most ppl here will understnad

[west jackal]

On a side note, do you know how to calculate max throughput on drone?

[clear ivy]

this is kind of a dumb question, is there any way to restart a fuse automatically

[fluid sapphire]

i am not saying anyone is wrong for using that, just praising the impressive toolset the game provides

[west jackal]

Pull the handle?

[ornate saffron]

automaticly no but with power priority switches you can do it remotly

[clear ivy]

oh that will work

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758 and yell at someone 😛

[fluid sapphire]

always produce more power than you use and you never need priority switches

[clear ivy]

im making a remote operated power system for fun

[fluid sapphire]

some combination of loading and unloading time, travel distance (time and speed based on fuel) and stack size?

[west jackal]

Do drones lock ports when load/unload? How many stacks do they carry

[fluid sapphire]

ports stay open i believe? each drone does 1 stack

[west jackal]

They definately do more than 1 stack..?

[edgy python]

check the drone inv?

[fluid sapphire]

they dont

[edgy python]

Ohhh of fuel

[fluid sapphire]

drone inventory is 1 stack

[edgy python]

what?

[ornate saffron]

They do require to segregate and plan out your power grid. For me my main grid is my power towers and Rail system. Every factory/ facility goes from that to a power priority switch to the facility using the power(or generating). For example my west coast oil field is my power generation so i named that switch West coast power and gave it #1 priority. meanwhile my starter factory is #8 priority. if a fuse blows itll turn off the starter factory first

[fluid sapphire]

ah, never mind xd

looks like its 9 stacks?'

i always thought it was one

[edgy python]

no one would use them if that where the case

trains are the best

no matter what

[fluid sapphire]

well, i would

[ornate saffron]

I used factory carts......

[edgy python]

well everyone has their preferences ig

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i thought, that they were basically flying factory carts

[edgy python]

give us manual control of the drone

[ornate saffron]

factory carts dont use fuel. So you can move a stack of dense parts, lets say BWD to the space elevator with no real cost

[prime lion]

I have a question. I’m trying to use a train to transport oil to my refineries that are using 1200 oil per min, and I am sending 1200oil per min, but the train station stops piping out oil out when a train arrives and is unloading. Am i doing something wrong or is there anyway to fix this?

[edgy python]

Wow never knew this

[west jackal]

A, trains are great, but drones let you be lazy and not have to run train lines for another dozen hours.

B, I have factory carts being using for 400m transport. Those only have 1 stack inventory

[ornate saffron]

Most of the time you just need a new perspective to have great inspiration. Factory tours on youtube can help with this.

[edgy python]

i already made a rail network over my world with 6 lanes (3 to and 3 back) its great and i have no issues with it

[west jackal]

I will say.. I regret using factory carts and trucks on the same bridge because the trucks dont play super well with the carts

[ornate saffron]

Trucks are mean. Always picking on the little guy

They should make a Factory cart movie in the style of Pixars "Cars"

[fluid sapphire]

they could call it Carts

[west jackal]

Im doing a 2 layer bi directional line, however, im trying to push to t9 for mk6 belts, so spending 10h running more train lines down to the southwest oil nodes/wells is much more time consuming then slapping down a couple drone ports

[knotty bear]

How much lag can I expect on the last phase with my r5 3600 and rtx 2060? I get like 80fps on my Mint install.

[fierce kiln]

Question about how updates work (since 1.2 is coming soon). My friends and I have started a world and are early game (at space elevator phase 2). If the 1.2 update comes out, will that just give us access to new machines and whatnot? Or will the world exist in a 1.1 state until I update it to 1.2? Or will it deprecate our world?

[edgy python]

yeah you have a good point although as i mentioned earlier im not even in phase 4 yet and im producing a bunch of things at a large scale so trains are my best option

[ornate saffron]

Drones are cool because the ignore terrain and building and make a straight line to objectives often saving on fuel

[keen flame]

just lower your settings

[west jackal]

You think im not producing things at a large scale? 😛

[knotty bear]

I have belt visual updates to 30fps and game said I was fine for High settings, might dip to medium later on.

[ornate saffron]

It really depends on scale of your builds.

[fluid sapphire]

you just keep playing normally no problem, there wont be any new machines though

[edgy python]

but i have a lot of power already 170 turbofuel gens

[west jackal]

Tfuel is poop, shoulda just held out for nitro rocket 😏

[edgy python]

well i was assuming you dont transport things in mass scale with drones due to their inventory size

[edgy python]

it was the best option for me

[ornate saffron]

just making sure you know there strengths (as you know there weakness already) that way you can make informed decisions of when to use them. Ill never tell anyone "do X"

[fierce kiln]

I thought there were new fluid machines? 🤔

[keen flame]

trucks

[knotty bear]

I unlocked trains so at least I don't need massive belts, though belts are just incredibly appealing to me. I'm planning to eventually ship every item to mass storage in the desert so that might cause lag? Though all production will be done in smaller bases away from the base.

[west jackal]

Thats why I was asking how quickly they could transport, I need to make 40 FMF/MIN, I only need 400 fuel/min im not transporting the 3600 iron ore and all the other resources by srone

[ornate saffron]

turbo is fine. The average player can complete the game with just Regular fuel

[keen flame]

wait a minute didnt you say youre on last phase

[west jackal]

Eh. No.

[knotty bear]

I said once I reach last phase.

[keen flame]

ohh

[knotty bear]

I'm only phase 3 rn at 80fps

[drowsy verge]

I just somehow got the 140km/h achievement from ziplines is this a bug

[edgy python]

i make 3000caterium wire per minute drones aren't transporting that to my computer factory

[edgy python]

how???? my ziplines are so slow thats why i now use hypertube cannons

[west jackal]

That is a good point, however id argue that just doing cat ingots and transporting that by drones could work.

[ornate saffron]

I'm at 30gw using 900 oil to make regular fuel. Im almost done phase 4.

[drowsy verge]

Idfk 😭 That's why I asked

[normal orbit]

you can hold shift to speed up on zipline, but its not 140km/h fast :p

[edgy python]

also copper then to cause i use a alternate recipe

[fluid sapphire]

ah, fluid trucks

[knotty bear]

Is this with toggle to sprint on?

[west jackal]

I normally do 60GW from dpf as a start. But I have 1 factory planned thats going to take more than that power on its own..

[fluid sapphire]

wouldnt classify it as a machine though in the typical sense

[ornate saffron]

they CAN be slow. they preserve momentum so if you jump slide jump a few times before latching on you can gain much speed. While attached you can hold forward and sprint for more speed gain. then when you have turbo or rocket fuel you can jump and tap the jetpack for more speed

[normal orbit]

no, but you can glitch it on by pressing shift and tab at the same time

[west jackal]

Trains are absolutely better for large flow transport, not trying to argue that. I have trains across much of the map, my train design just takes ages to build so im less motivated

[drowsy verge]

I kinda glitched a bit and then I suddenly had the achievement idk

I don't have a recording

[fluid sapphire]

why would you do this when you can simply uncheck the "hold to sprint" box in controls

[normal orbit]

mebbe someone wants hold to sprint for other reasons, idk

its just an option

[west jackal]

Yall dont hold sprint?

[fluid sapphire]

its much easier not to

[west jackal]

I got that shit ENGRAINED in me from years of Minecraft 😂😂

[edgy python]

yeah tbh il probs use drones when i get them anyway im gonna go back to building now was hoping id hook up my 100x constructors to my foundrys today

[fluid sapphire]

its the first control option i always look for in any new game i play

[drowsy verge]

I use the superior movement strategy of sliding and jumping you reach ludicrous speeds for early game

[west jackal]

Yeah have fun!

[west jackal]

Still hold shift while I do it 🤷‍♂️🤔

[drowsy verge]

Yeah same

[west jackal]

🙂

[ornate saffron]

i toggle. Makes building with the hover pack easier

[west jackal]

Eh fair point

I just dont need my pinky for anything else 🤷‍♂️

[cursive hazel]

Who loves the Game?

[abstract heron]

me i have about 19,019hr TOTAL

[cursive hazel]

[ornate saffron]

@abstract heron we are waiting for is 20 hour Video Lecture/review once he hits 20k hours

[abstract heron]

i am only doing a review

[ornate saffron]

VIDEO LECTURE !!1

[abstract heron]

and pinging mikael and jason

[abstract heron]

REVIEW

[abstract girder]

hello guys

[west jackal]

@ornate saffron how do you track the resources you have available/items being produced and available?

Since DeafBringer convinced me to let us make a large rubber/plastics facility, i decided i wanted to track the resources being used everywhere and how many are left, like we are down to 1 set of oil nodes

[abstract girder]

SCIM can be usefull for this

[wind token]

I dislike flow rate.

[ornate saffron]

in game, signs. out of game Spreadsheets

[west jackal]

do you have a picture of what your spreadsheet looks like? im struggling to decide how i want to organize it? Obviously the easy one to track is raw resources available/used, but other than that im not entirely sure

Like, im producing 12270 or something aluminum ingots/min, Do you put that next to bauxite in the list as a T1 item? If so, do you list out the casings and sheets and the RCU and incrementing tiers of items? do multi input items go in multiple places or do you rank by the tier that they are

[crude canyon]

why not use modeler

[west jackal]

That is not going to be easy to model the intricate and mass production lines

[crude canyon]

and you think it'll be easier on spreadsheets?

[west jackal]

Absolutely

[ornate saffron]

replied in #math-and-meta

[marble fractal]

Is there a way to automate leaves

[ornate saffron]

no

[clear schooner]

can someone help me with train signals

i get this stupid "loops into itself" message while all the guides I've read/watched say that my setup should be ok

#screenshots message pic

should've probably annotated, but basically it's always path on the entrance, block on the exit

[rain wedge]

lemme guess ure trying to make gas filter?

[mortal ginkgo]

why..?

what is thy purpose dear bepis?

[rain wedge]

#streams-and-videos message 160 pasta per min 🤔 man use every copper node just for copper powder > into pasta?

[mortal ginkgo]

without sloops default settings is 120ish min pasta for full copper

one can ofc use Converters to get more copper out of SAM shizzle

[rain wedge]

eeh

[mortal ginkgo]

eh. 🙂‍↕️

but yeah, default 1.1 settings 120/min asks for all copper in the planet

[rain wedge]

ok roughly around 200-300 constructors with 3 slugs each i think

holy shi

[ornate saffron]

which recipes? Pure?

[mortal ginkgo]

ya? would he get more with leeched?

[ornate saffron]

i would think so. But 🤷 maybe you need all that sulfur so something else at that scale of vanity project

I'm a humble Impure node lover

i keep things simple

[rain wedge]

🤔 all impure uranium 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

you are playing this game C O R R E C T

[ornate saffron]

I have yet to go nuclear (for power) i am going to do it this playthrough. Starting with a small setup in the swamp using the Impure node there.

[ripe rivet]

is it not possible to change the orientation of conveyor life anymore.

[ornate saffron]

I only have phase parts left of phase 4. I have all my other objectives complete. Hopefully my remaining 10gw of power overhead will get me to mk 6 belts

[ionic lodge]

Are quartz crystals and silica worth getting an abundance of

[ornate saffron]

lift>? it is

[ornate saffron]

you'll likely want a small quantity of each for personal use. after that scale to need

[ionic lodge]

Ok

[minor vale]

Small quantities (like 1 or 2 constructors) producing one of each of Quartz's products is usually enough for personal use, so long as you have it on hand.
but pre developing the space for use on bigger lines later in your playtrhhough will save you a lot of time as well. since it has a lot of use later game.

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron every time i drag it down into a floor hole and orientate it so that its flat against the wall when i place it it change orientation

[ornate saffron]

they can be finicky. I often need to line it up so the hologram is blue (on defualt settings) then rotate it the way i want.

[hybrid jewel]

Im tired of searching party

[ornate saffron]

then start a murder party. In DnD we call this murder Hobos

[fiery pewter]

No. Leached is technically better for iron and caterium both water-wise and ore-wise, but pure copper is better than leached copper

[ornate saffron]

I do not know if they changed anything in 1.2 ( i noticed you asked in #satisfactory-experimental )

[hybrid jewel]

What? I mean a team

There is no russian ps5 players

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron yes i run both version and i can get it to work in either one have not been able to sice 1.0

[hybrid jewel]

Sadly

[ornate saffron]

not sure what to tell you. it works for me

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron i will try and Reinstall then

[ornate saffron]

you can play with xbox users too.

but you are asking a lot of a english only discord. Maybe find a russian only gaming server?

[ornate saffron]

verify game files first

easier

[hybrid jewel]

Hmm u are right

Gonna search, thank u

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron yeah i did that it did not change anything

[ornate saffron]

have you tried a creative mode? This would eliminate issues that are save related.

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron yes also started a new game so the save file should be fine as well

[ornate saffron]

finally have you searched the QA site for similair issues?

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron yes but the post where from a year ago and still show open

[ornate saffron]

its so you can upvote the issue. The dev team handle bugs on a community engagement bases. this may be a bug that has returned for example.

[spice patio]

Orientation changing after first click?
Or orientation changing after second confirming click after final length and direction adjustment?

[ripe rivet]

@ornate saffron it has something to do with the floor whole because it works fine other wise just when you try and go through a floor whole

[spice patio]

First has been happening for long time, and is annoyance, but not critical.
Second would be critical, but hasn't been happening.

You just adjust the direction after selecting position and clicking first time, during that second phase of build adjustment.

Yes, you can adjust the direction before the first click too, but that can change because of some long time bug/feature.

When doing it with floor holes.

[smoky forge]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[spice patio]

With free-standing lifts, you would adjust one end before first click, and second end between clicks.
And when starting from a floor-holes, the first orientation doesn't matter and gets swallowed.

[odd ibex]

@cedar garnet WHY

you couldve told me

[pearl owl]

all of my basic steel iron and copper is all paused I've over produced so much

[ripe rivet]

@spice patio i appreciate the response but how to do it was not my issue

[boreal knoll]

Where can I ask about blueprints?

[rose lintel]

Anyone find mini factories useful? Spots near a small amount of resources where you can maybe build a few lines of basic items to send to your bigger shops?

[ornate saffron]

absolutley. It depends on the situation. Id rather move concrete then limestone for exampl. So ill jsut make the concrete at teh node then move the concrete as it has a stack size of 500 and limestone has a lower output to input ratio

[clear ivy]

is there a way to place something while on lock hologram but still have the hologram locked at the same place?

if not that would be nice to have at some point

[fluid sapphire]

what

[jagged nymph]

huh?

[clear ivy]

when you place with lock hologram on it unlocks

[jagged nymph]

yes? cause you cant place 2 things in the same place

[clear ivy]

well yeah, but you could nudge it to the side each time

[unkempt blade]

2/3 screw recipes have fewer stacks as screws than they do as the ingredients to make them therefore people should ship screws in vehicles instead of rods/ingots

[neat plank]

I've now reached Steel, and I'm like, wait it needs Coal AND Iron.

[deep bloom]

where should I go if I find a unique bug

[neat plank]

And I found this place with Red plants and everything is trying to hurt me. Weary.

[ornate saffron]

ya those areas are violent.

[neat plank]

But at least I found paleberries.

[fluid sapphire]

i dont understand what you mean xd

you want the hologram to stay in place post-building?

[clear ivy]

yes so i can build manifolds quicker

[fluid sapphire]

uhhh, how does that help with that?

[next ivy]

i guess he has a blueprint without a manifold in it
but also not enough material to build that blueprint yet

so he wants to prebuild the manifold while waiting on materials to fill

[clear ivy]

sometimes automatic clearance separation isn't useful cause the spacing is wrong

im just to lazy to make a manifold blueprint

[next ivy]

then place the bp with H then nudge it

do that for as long as you want, and then add the manifold

would be great if we could define the blueprint size ourselfes tho

like in factorio, praise be

[clear ivy]

for example, placing smelters to align with constructors since smelters are smaller than constructors

[lean fossil]

wait wait wait how are you suppoed to get crude oil.

if it's only just a teeny tiny well.

[next ivy]

pumping it from the ground ?

[clear ivy]

you can't use automatic clearance separation because the spacing will be off

[lean fossil]

Am I gonna have to build TRAINS?

[next ivy]

no

youre never forced to build trains

[lean fossil]

then how will I transfer 90 oil wells from around the world

[next ivy]

pipes

[unkempt blade]

you're not seeing guidelines to help line up the conveyors with each other?

[next ivy]

trucks

drones

[real shale]

By hand

[lean fossil]

and when do you unlock that.

[next ivy]

fairly late i think
like tier 7 ?

[lean fossil]

Rule that out-

I should probably instead build trains.

[clear ivy]

the guidelines don't help when my mouse isn't accurate enough to place it each time in the right spot

[lean fossil]

I hate trucks and pipes are stupid.

[next ivy]

holding ctrl adds a snap

tho also not a big help

its surprisingly useless

[next ivy]

so include the splitter in the bp

[fluid sapphire]

thats the real big brain move

[next ivy]

unless youre limited by bp size

i got that when making computers

but even then you could nudge the splitter into buildings

[clear ivy]

whats the bp acronym

[next ivy]

or above them

blueprint lol

[clear ivy]

k

tbh i just want my hologram to stay locked so i don't have to press h every time

[next ivy]

oh yea like in approximately up

that wasnt even debated tho

[pearl owl]

will my lizard dogs tp to me

[clear ivy]

i think two things could make hologram lock 100% better, nudge distance config and lock after build

[rose lintel]

Also thinkin about using it as a practice factory. I have my starter up an running and while I’ve been tuning the efficiency it’s a big mess to look at

[fiery pewter]

Unnecessary hate

[lean fossil]

OH COME ON

I'll love it when 1.2 releases

Talkin about trucks not pipes
pipes still suck

[clear ivy]

with that you could measure the distance perfectly when making foundation rather then counting in 10s

[real shale]

Wdym pipes are awesome

[lean fossil]

No.

[real shale]

Yea

[lean fossil]

And why do you turn off mentions.

[fiery pewter]

Pipes are fairly easy

[raven kite]

hey guys i just completed my first playthrough for my next should i play 1.2 experimental or just 1.1 again

[fiery pewter]

People do be doing stuff

[fiery pewter]

Whatever you want really

[real shale]

Pipes are 🦐 le

[raven kite]

is exp stable?

[fiery pewter]

No?

Stable is 1.1

[real shale]

Stable is Stable

[clear ivy]

Two things to consider about pipes is making a water tower and not using valves for individual machines

[fiery pewter]

Experimental is, well, experimental

[real shale]

Don't even need water towers either honestly

[supple canopy]

but current experimental version is rather stable if that's what you wanna know

[fiery pewter]

Just pump

[real shale]

KISS with pipes is the way

[fiery pewter]

Kraft Infinite Super Slorpers?

[real shale]

Keep it simple stupid

[fiery pewter]

Oh.

[fluid sapphire]

water towers are the single most pointless contraption you can make

[clear ivy]

water tower is just useful when pumps get annoying

[fluid sapphire]

pumps are simple

[fiery pewter]

Water go up and water go down, but water that go down has headlift below the top of the water tower

[real shale]

Yeah, and one pump achieves the same thing

[clear ivy]

unless you're building a mega factory

[urban atlas]

guys

[real shale]

Then use two pumps

[fluid sapphire]

pumps are dead simple, whenever you need headlift on a pipe, plop down a pump, done

nothing complicated or annoying about it

[real shale]

Water towers is an example of breaking the rule of KISS, you overcomplicate something that has a 🦐 le solution

[clear ivy]

water towers aren't complicated at all

[urban atlas]

is there a way to disable where your a host and when you leave your friend does not get kiked

[fiery pewter]

I use pumps to make joining water pipes flow in the same direction lol

[fiery pewter]

Dedicated servers

[real shale]

They are more complicated that just plopping down a pump and powering it

[clear ivy]

adding a pump for every split takes time

[urban atlas]

what do you mean

@fiery pewter

[ornate saffron]

you run a dedicated server that runs all the time. then you join

[lean fossil]

trains unlocked now im dyin

[real shale]

Choo Choo motherf*cker

[fluid sapphire]

you dont have to?

[fiery pewter]

Signals are seperate lmao

[lean fossil]

OH MY GOD SHE JUST SAID THAT

I love ada gng

[ornate saffron]

thats the joke ^_^

[wild hollow]

Choo Choo mother*fucker

[clear ivy]

and all a water tower is, is just building the headlift from the top of the factory so the headlift never fails

[fiery pewter]

Yes. It do be a voiceline

[lean fossil]

Coffe stain studios did something SKATE. could not
make me actually like how a robot/ai is designed

yeah no i dont understand a single train thing

[real shale]

Time to learn

[clear ivy]

if you build from under its easy to lose track of where things need to be pumped

[lean fossil]

yeah i need blueprints.

[real shale]

Trains are also 🦐 le, path in block out

[lean fossil]

time to unlock it after ignoring it.

[real shale]

Blueprints are the way, they completely change your game

[next ivy]

theyre great

[fluid sapphire]

guys i have decided to take up a new hobby: knitting. how is my sweater looking

#screenshots message

[lean fossil]

not to mention i also have to study math

I'm dyin

[next ivy]

wish they were better

[real shale]

I used to not blueprint anything but after embracing it

[next ivy]

playing satisfactry is studying math

[real shale]

will it work? Tho

[lean fossil]

Yeah sadly math includes a variety of non math things.

[next ivy]

like letters, ew

[lean fossil]

alr no wtf is this-

[real shale]

Maths great

[lean fossil]

"find X" like find your own X bruh

[fluid sapphire]

just have to wire up the ingot production, then connect everything to power, and i guess we will find out

[lean fossil]

I don't really care much about your X to even find out Y

[fluid sapphire]

worst case scenario i should be able to just rate limit at the train station with no other changes

[real shale]

I wish It was as simple as "Find X" these days

Engineering math is a step up 😧

[restive sandal]

I'm curious about the Goat Simulator music tape. Did the company make both Satisfactory and Goat Simulator?

[lean fossil]

does he know?

[restive sandal]

No, that's why I'm asking

[lean fossil]

He dosent know.

[lean fossil]

Yes they made goat simulator.

[restive sandal]

I feel like that was obvious

[real shale]

They made goat simulator and are the publisher for deep rock galactic

[restive sandal]

That, I didn't know though

[lean fossil]

I feel like being goats is really obvious to them ykwim

WHY AM I STUDYING COLUMNSSSS

[edgy python]

can resources disappear out of crates when u dismantle them or js randomly disappear cause i lost 400 power shards

[lean fossil]

dismantle crate

[edgy python]

wdym?

[lean fossil]

there's a crate that spawns on you when you dont have enough space

[edgy python]

i dont see any on the floor or the map

[next ivy]

then use the map

scim maybe

[lean fossil]

press M

[next ivy]

make sure you didnt disable the icon

[lean fossil]

or maybe you dismantled too many shit and youy reached the maximum number ofdismantle crates

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[edgy python]

its not my first time playing i have enough inv space they js disappeared out of my storage where i deposit items i dont need

[lean fossil]

difference between blueprint mk2 and mk1?

[edgy python]

ones larger takes computers and can fit around 4 power generators

fuel that is

[supple canopy]

is there a way to remove fog of war completely? Like a console command or somth

[lean fossil]

takes computers?....

[edgy python]

wdym?

like

to build it

??

ive been playing long enough to have the gold build gun

i can send a screenshot if u want

[real shale]

Everyone has the gold build gun, it's nothing that special.

[real shale]

"r.fog 0"

[next ivy]

thought gold stuff was only for early access players ?

[real shale]

It was, but everyone has it

CSS doesn't do FOMO stuff in many cases

[edgy python]

wdym

so the early access suporter dlc was given to those who dont have it

[real shale]

For example, I have them and I haven't played from early access

[edgy python]

ohh i get it

[real shale]

Although if I knew about this game earlier I'd have 100% played in early access

I enjoy every aspect of this game

(except the lack of golf)

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[real shale]

Looks good, I do recommend doing a two rail version too, two way rail systems will help alleviate a lot of potential problems down the line

[supple canopy]

I meant fog of war like on the map, not the environmental fog

[real shale]

that is the command for it

[lean fossil]

I'm a new player...

I never knew trains existed(sarcasm)

And I don't know what that means

[supple canopy]

oh it must do both then cause r.fog 0 disables environmental fog too

[lean fossil]

Isn't environmental fog world fog

[clear ivy]

idk if i really agree to sticking with KISS, if its preventing you from learning new ways to do stuff, kinda seems like a double edged sword

[lean fossil]

I swear my world looks as clear as glass after I explored a bit.

[lean fossil]

What other way would you do such acts.

Hell why are we talking about kissing here

[real shale]

"Keep it simple stupid"

[clear ivy]

if you think there's only one way to do something, you might never learn a simpler way to do something

[lean fossil]

Intelligence stat +10

[ornate saffron]

really depends on goals. There has been many times ive decided just to play with pipes and push my knowledge and understanding of fluids. But if my goal is to make a working factory i keep to the methods i already know work

[clear ivy]

thats fair

[green fiber]

KISS is for building factories, FAFO is for gaining knowledge and for your sandboxes

you dont FAFO a factory

[clear ivy]

but also i would say, use that mentality with caution

[lean fossil]

I'm assuming this means fuck around find out.

[green fiber]

yes

[lean fossil]

Oh my god.

[green fiber]

messing around while building big factories is of course a GREAT learning experience....
it will also be a painful one

if you wanna mess around, try it on small scale first

[clear ivy]

well sometimes more efficient factories are easier to setup, for example i was relying on load balancers for the early game and i really struggled until i found how to use manifolds properly

[green fiber]

that doesnt have anything to do with the scale of the factory though.
thats something you can find out on a small scale too

[clear ivy]

im mostly talking about with this mentality it is common to create unneccesary attachment to a method

for me that was load balancers

[ornate saffron]

Personal preference is something we all need to keep a eye on. Ive cleared the game 7 times and since 1.0 ive only used Nitro rocket fuel. Ive decided to break that this time by using all the resources in the blue crater for other projects. taking away my prefered power location

[spare prism]

im gunna cry 🙁

[ornate saffron]

its up there with confirmation bias

[ornate saffron]

feed the coal generators with your tears

[west jackal]

Maybe you don't. This is how I decided to never again bottom feed max mk2 pipelines 🤣

[spare prism]

I have to tear down all the water gens bc they don't line up with the coal gens

[ornate saffron]

HAVE TO is a strong satement WANT to is what you are looking for

[west jackal]

Yeah my next playthrough I NOT doing dune desert, I've done it since they introduced the desert

[spare prism]

Nah nah nah i have too

[ornate saffron]

forest is my favorite default starter

[west jackal]

I'll give it a shot. I'm also doing better purity random late game nodes i think

[real shale]

how many coupon points do you think a pioneer would be worth if you could put them into the sink

[proven snow]

I've never tried starting in the grass plains, how is it?

[west jackal]

Depends how many lizzard doggo you've killed

[proven snow]

I've actually only ever been there once a few days ago, so don't know the layout rly

[real shale]

thats a tough question to answer

[ornate saffron]

it starts you near the spire coast, rockey desert and inside the forest. REALLY nice especially if you are going to spread like the plague. there is a natural road up into the bamboo forest too

[hasty mango]

how do u remove huge trees?

[ornate saffron]

you dont

[west jackal]

Most you can break with nobs. The really huge ones deserve death but cannot be removed

[unkempt blade]

you need to build a giant box around them with walls and foundations

[unreal sand]

I’ve burned myself out of satisfactory ):

[west jackal]

Take a break and co,e back in a ,month or two, that's what I used to do

[unreal sand]

Oki

[west jackal]

Sorry for typing errors, on tablet

[unreal sand]

It’s ok lol

[ornate saffron]

this happens to many of us. cleanse the pallet with something else. and come back. Rift breaker is fun

[west jackal]

How far did you make it?

And yeah, I like going to play something completely different, like doom or jedi or something and then come back refreshed

[unkempt blade]

time to play minesweeper on fullscreen until you're ready for more satisfactory

[west jackal]

Unfortunately I usually end up restarting at that point..

[unkempt blade]

it's a trap! make some notes about where you left off before you take the vacation

[unreal sand]

About to finish phase 4

[ornate saffron]

leave yourself some in game notes before you leave so you dont hate your past self

[lean fossil]

What does this mean.

[west jackal]

Yea... good ideas.unfortunatrly my last big break there were lots of changes that broke everything

[west jackal]

Having 2 rails, only let trains drive forward on right (or left if you're weird)

[lean fossil]

why is it weird if its left

[unkempt blade]

like how IRL roads work but with trains

[west jackal]

Then they can give opposite directions

[lean fossil]

oh double racks

so do I just add another platform?

[west jackal]

Because you're supposed to drive om the right silly goose

[lean fossil]

abnd is there ak eybind for this blueprint shit

[west jackal]

It's literally the RIGHT side of the road

[lean fossil]

th eblueprint device

[west jackal]

Please explain queetion betttrr

[lean fossil]

left for backwards right.

[lean fossil]

TO OPEN UP THE BLUEPRINT MENUUU

[unkempt blade]

or you can avoid real world road bias by making one direction a top rail and the bottom rail the other direction

[green fiber]

a keybind to open bluepprints menu?
nope. doesnt exist

[next ivy]

idon undrsand the qustion

you can put blueprints on your hotbar

[west jackal]

Weird.. Just have traim on the right side, same as my cart Congo line

[lean fossil]

actually what the hell is this

[unkempt blade]

just remember the answer is always "it's beautiful but you need to use more factory carts and add more colors"

[lean fossil]

yk how you press Q and it enters build mode

where is buildmode undertale mode
blueprint mode*

[white dawn]

You've got 2km of vertical space to use; may as well exploit it! :D

[lean fossil]

blueprint not undertale

[lean fossil]

it sounds like an architectual nightmare waiting to happen...

[unkempt blade]

But that discriminates againt british roads. Road bigotry is wrong

[west jackal]

Press r and it can place in BP mode?

[lean fossil]

i give up

[west jackal]

I still don't understand the question lol, picking a BP? Just click the BP tab, you can assign to hotbar

[next ivy]

you can also copy placed blueprints if you press F then look at a bp and use the pipette key

[white dawn]

McGalleon gave you the answer, btw: #satisfactory message

[west jackal]

As long as you're in dismantle BP mode

[white dawn]

I agree that other folks here don't seem to "get" what you're asking. But in the end: no, there's no key to directly open up that menu.

[unkempt blade]

It just makes the intersections spicier. Just embrace it

[white dawn]

Best you can do is open up either the "regular" build menu or customizer and then tab over

[lean fossil]

this hsit is annoying....

[lean fossil]

I love you.

[green fiber]

thats why you use the hotbars

[west jackal]

Doesn't seem that bad for trains

[lean fossil]

You actually understood me 🙏

[west jackal]

I use like 2.. lol

[green fiber]

i use like 5 hotbars

[lean fossil]

Ion want to make intersections harderrr

[rough shore]

i use like 6

[west jackal]

Wouldn't be. Trains ez

[lean fossil]

I hear screams from hell from hell.

[unkempt blade]

oh ok, do what you feel is best 😄

you're amazing and talented and I believe in your train orientation choice

[west jackal]

I can't tell if marwy is just getting frustrated at the game/our non understanding or if he's trolling 🤔

[solar solstice]

how do i clean the coffee stains on my mousepad....well better question do i clean the coffee stains on my mouse pad?

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[lean fossil]

why would i roll

[unkempt blade]

that's why the correct response is silly answers and unconditional love

[lean fossil]

troll*

[unreal sand]

Oki

[unkempt blade]

not suggesting anything about your intent but this is the internet so it's a reasonable guess a lot of the time

[lean fossil]

udnerstadnable

[green fiber]

dud lwkey sounds high

[lean fossil]

I THINK these move the same way.

actually no these arent conveyors

[next ivy]

omg a full proper sentence

[lean fossil]

I'm gonna do something toyou

[next ivy]

is that a threat or a promise

😳

[blazing saffron]

where would i put a factory plan i have asking for advice on it

[next ivy]

#1038092680493801533 or #math-and-meta

you can post pics there

[blazing saffron]

thank you so much

[lean fossil]

eughehg im getting brain farts i forgot why i came to my factory

[west jackal]

Uh.. little more than lwkey 😭

He sounds like me when its 4am and I was supposed to get off at 1 because I had class at 9am

[lean fossil]

I've never touched a drunk effect inducing materiel.

[real shale]

mf when 27.2 copper away from having enough to make 336 heatsinks/min, looks like im having alclad sheet excess

[lean fossil]

I HAVE AN EXAM TOMORROW AND IM DYING

I HAVE A MATH EXAM TOMORROW AND IM OU HERE SATISFYING MYSELF

[west jackal]

Then go study your factory

[lean fossil]

and that sounds so fucking wrong

[west jackal]

Um.. don't phrase like that

[green fiber]

stop satisfying yourself then

[lean fossil]

im a fucking retard.

[green fiber]

sleep deprived ahh

[west jackal]

Get back to working on the factory pioneer, not yourself

[lean fossil]

I deleted my storage container and i have the maximum amount of dismantle crates.

[lean fossil]

I'm gonna work on you next

[real shale]

321.4285 heatsinks/min it is then

[west jackal]

Das a lot of heat sinks

I assume cooling systems, but what forà

[real shale]

cooling systems

and pluto rods down the line maybe

[lean fossil]

you telin me i gotta cool down factories now?

[real shale]

actually im realising, its less now because i have less copper ingots to work with since im making AI limiters for my nuke nobs

[lean fossil]

how do you uh like multiple cargo points.

[real shale]

oh wow, thats convenient, i have enough copper sheets to make 200

time to work out the perfect ratio of sheets to ingots to see how i maximise usage of both

[west jackal]

Just bring in more copper 🤔

Steamed sheets alt?

[real shale]

yea

making 750 sheets - 150 for the nuke nobs, so i have 600 left over and 750 ingots remaining for alclad sheets

just gotta adjust those ratios to maximise both the sheets and heatsinks

[west jackal]

I gave in and let DeafBringer join my save (great choice, he's been amazing) but he keeps complaining because every factory has hundreds of reinferies doing pure ingots 🤣

Like, 7200 iron ore i want to process all into pure ingots (although this may not work because the pond is a little small...

[cold berry]

I think the computer factory will be my temporary hub location while I finally make a space elevator factory at phase 4 lol. I was just feeding in items before

I did make dedicated factories, but then I just fed in

[west jackal]

His stance is that iron is the most abundant resource so there is no need to purify it. I stand by that water is the most abundant so we should purify it

[cold berry]

It's less about it being so abundant, and more about maximizing one node allowing better throughout. The only real way to get more ore on a belt that doesn't require vehicles is by overclocking, using a better miner, or by using alternate recipes

So if you're like, next to the ocean, why not?

[west jackal]

But then I decided I would just build it even though no mk6 and we are trying to push for mk6 but still building with mk5 and just plan to upgrade

[ornate saffron]

its a valid thought process. but on the flip side you need to move less resources or redue facilites if you started with pure to begin with

[west jackal]

It's not by ocean

[west jackal]

Well its 6 pure iron nodes. If I use the basic recipe I need like 6800 ore/min, with pure ingots only need 3300, which means three of the nodes can go elsewhere

[ornate saffron]

absolutley i understand both views. Personally I have refinery burnout

[west jackal]

I just realized 1 max oc slooped particle accelerator eats 25GW?!

For making pasta

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[crude canyon]

All your power are belong to us

[lean fossil]

this is how it's supposed to look like...right?..

[ornate saffron]

ya, you may not want to sloop them

[west jackal]

I probably wouldn't have the second rail dead-end into the station but yea

[west jackal]

Need pasta fast

[lean fossil]

so i delete the second one.

[west jackal]

But golly gee that's a lot of power. I'm only producing 70GW untill I get mk6 belts 😭

[lean fossil]

"gw"

that's a new one...