satisfactory

[real shale]

Screws

[jagged nymph]

all the stuff that needs screws

[keen flame]

aaaah

why didntr i think of that

[tranquil bolt]

Im about to double it

[crystal cedar]

Switch to another alt already

[wispy tundra]

I thought about making a screw factory just to distribute screws around

[jagged nymph]

i wouldnt centralize that

[tranquil bolt]

I probably will

[crystal cedar]

Better off making them where needed bcuz too much stuff to transport

[jagged nymph]

since theyre such a high throughput item its a logistical challenge to transport them

[crystal cedar]

Or u can phrase it thag way

[wispy tundra]

Tbh I'm moving so few items around that I would like to have something that JUSTIFIES using a train to move lolz

[crystal cedar]

Just move around raw material

[jagged nymph]

jsut use a train everywhere. Any time you connect something from machine to another, have a train in the middle

[wispy tundra]

Now that's smg I didn't think about. Collecting ingots from multiple smelting units spread around the map ( I build them close to nodes) and delivering them at a platform

[tranquil bolt]

I would have a floor dedicated to everything. Im nearing end game

[distant pilot]

Trains are good for dense clusters of ore that would be really helpful but aren’t usable on their own

Like quartz for silica in aluminum

[cunning lily]

One of the biggest resource challenges of the megafactory play style is... GPU resources 😅

[jagged nymph]

or you can sloppy pure and not worry bout no quartz

[jagged nymph]

cpu*

well nvm both

[distant pilot]

But I like having more ingots per bauxite

[cunning lily]

Both? Both.

[jagged nymph]

both is good.

[jagged nymph]

i prefer simplicity. Im not maxing about the bauxite anyway

[crystal cedar]

Jd box it up so ur cpu struggles alone(poor lil guy)

[distant pilot]

With all the alternate recipes you have for iron or copper-heavy products you end up needing a lot of bauxite compared to iron/copper ore

[jagged nymph]

😢

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message

[distant pilot]

Between the ingots step and things like radio units and fused frames your only alternate recipe is alclad aluminum casing which uses way too much copper for how little it reduces the aluminum demand

[crystal cedar]

Why do u have. 257h on volanta do u never restart or shutdown

[jagged nymph]

no i dont

unless i have to for whatever reason

[crystal cedar]

No memory leaks yet?

[jagged nymph]

that falls into "whatever reason"

[crystal cedar]

So no memory leaks so far(258h)

[jagged nymph]

noope

[jagged nymph]

current uptime 11 days 9 hours

highest ive hit is 4 months

[crystal cedar]

What. I can only imagine the horrors on ur power bill

[mystic island]

Anyone knows the rough time when 1.2 might come? I know that it's on the experimental build but I want to know how much time it takes for the actual release.

[crystal cedar]

2-3mo

[real shale]

PCs really don't cost that much to run on idle

[jagged nymph]

well most of that is idle, where it consumes very little power compared to all the lights, air conditioning, refrigerators, microwave, washing machine, dryer, etc

[crystal cedar]

He has a few apps open

[mystic island]

Cool thx.

[crystal cedar]

Then alr

[jagged nymph]

i also dont pay the electric bill so i dont care

[real shale]

People say the whole Microtransactions to utility company when going idle in this game but I have a loophole

[crystal cedar]

Neither do I.(I overclock everything and eum it overnight on sm game w max graphics :D) but still dang. 4mo

[real shale]

I work for said utility company so I'm technically paying myself

[crystal cedar]

Tho its not and never will be 100% efficient

[real shale]

Still paying myself? 100% efficiency or not

[crystal cedar]

Instead of paying ourself u can not pay saving kn those losses

[tranquil bolt]

My rx 7900xtx is pretty power hungry. Runs up the light bill good

[real shale]

Uh? You do?

You pay for losses to your utility company too you know

[crystal cedar]

;; my 4060 barely takes 120w

[real shale]

The power coming into your home is used whether it's inefficient or not, you pay them either way

[crystal cedar]

Ah. I was just quoting. Thermodynamics

[tranquil bolt]

Im on 4k tho 4060 would be a little under powered

[real shale]

The point is, the money goes to the utility company, which ergo goes back to me, so in a weird very convoluted way, I pay myself for going idle in satisfactory

[crystal cedar]

Soo.. profit?

[tranquil bolt]

I think i use 350-400 watts

[crystal cedar]

Yaay

[real shale]

Rare Jason post in #satisfactory-memes

[weak bloom]

where's the entrance to the cave with the 3 quartz nodes in the northwest rocky desert?

[real shale]

By the coal nodes to the east or the ocean to the north

[distant pilot]

Behind some vines around the spot with 4 normal coal nodes

[weak bloom]

oh wow that's really far lol

[distant pilot]

Yup

[real shale]

Theres also the entrance next to the sulphur node

[real shale]

It's a deep cave

[distant pilot]

But you can be cheeky and “excavate” your own tunnel out by running a belt lift through the ground between the quartz and the surface above it

Idk if that truly works though, at least without clipping into the void yourself

[weak bloom]

hm where's the sulfur node entrance? I was gonna process stuff around that node anyway so that would be convenient

[real shale]

I am misremembering, there's one north of it next to the ocean

[weak bloom]

ok cool, I found that one

[real shale]

It has 4 different entrances

[weak bloom]

this cave is gorgeous tbh. probably would be less so if I hadn't removed the spiders :^)

[ornate saffron]

Fill it with accelerators and no other lighting.

[fierce sigil]

When building long stretches of track do you need to place block signals regularly to avoid train collisions?

[real shale]

You need to place them regularly to ensure you don't bottleneck your train tracks

Because larger blocks means a larger area a train can't enter if another train is there

[distant pilot]

Not necessarily

But if you have like 5 trains going on a pair of one-way tracks then dividing it with block signals will allow more to move at once

[fierce sigil]

It's going to be a major line that other lines branch from

Man, that's a lot of work

[real shale]

Oops, went Mach 10 into my modular frame skyscraper

[fierce sigil]

I'm shipping sulphur and coal out to an oil field for turbofuel, gunpowder, ect production. Any advice on how to decide how big to scale this?

[ornate saffron]

Get to to do the math for aluminum facility tonight.

[bleak valley]

Time to finish modular frames

[ornate saffron]

I never know how to answer these questions, as everything you do effects your future decisions. You are at turbo fuel which means t5 and t6 minimum that a good chunk of the game behind you and many decisions made. The only person that has the information is you and few of us have the will to review everything as we are likely focusing on our own goals.

What I can say is that I've beat the game with 40gw of power made from regular old fuel

[bleak valley]

I guess after modular frames I should start steel

[weak bloom]

there's no reason to not just process SAM into reanimated SAM at the node itself, right? I don't think anything actually uses SAM directly....?

[ornate saffron]

I think thats a normal progression route

🙂

[fierce sigil]

Yeah, I'm having trouble deciding because the end goal seems arbitrary to start with. I guess I'll just make enough turbofuel for vehicles and funnel the rest into generators

[bleak valley]

Well now I don’t wanna what’s the abnormal progression

[fierce sigil]

Collect some hard drives and find out the worst recipes possible for everything you need

[fluid sapphire]

make as many screws as possible

[fierce sigil]

Cast screws my beloved

[bleak valley]

I’m liking these ideas

[ornate saffron]

Just choose a number. There is no issues with doing something cause "i wana"

[prime basin]

@obsidian zodiac I was just wondering about the meme you posted. Could a player do that, or was it made in the engine so only someone with dev access could do it?

[ornate saffron]

<@&370483737957236737>

[prime basin]

whats the difference between @-ing a user and a role? does the role just ping everyone who has that role?

[bleak valley]

I’m now making 30 modular frames a minute why? Because I felt like it

[spiral stratus]

This sounds fun

[rough shore]

cuz why not

[abstract girder]

This should be the slogan of the game.

[rough shore]

slogan of everything

anyone asks u why just say why not

[abstract girder]

yeah its true

I'm still surprised that the developer of this game is the same as the developer of Goat Simulator.

[random haven]

lol I really need to start making a central storage place for basic crap lmao.

[prime basin]

that could of been the goat sim slogan as well lol

[rough shore]

was too idk how u go from making goat simulator to satisfactory

[abstract girder]

yea :DDD

[random haven]

Also, what phase do I start unlocking better power generation rather then just relying on biomass t.t

[prime basin]

2

[abstract girder]

Yes, my heart skipped a beat when I saw Goat Simulator and Satisfactory side-by-side during the Steam sale.

[random haven]

Oh goody just need to automate smart plating then

[rough shore]

two great games 🤷‍♂️

[prime basin]

coal power is tier 3

[abstract girder]

I think you shouldn't automate the process of sending materials to the space elevator

Everyone has their own preferences, after all, this is a sandbox game, but I wanted to offer a suggestion.

[rough shore]

just put a storage container with a 1000 rotors and another with 1000 reinforced plates

[prime basin]

why?

[rough shore]

cuz ur just gonna remove everything afterwards and its already made of stuff u should have automated

[bleak valley]

Honestly coal is so much nicer I’d hand craft them just to get it faster lol

[white dawn]

I don't always fully automate SE part deliveries to the elevator, though I do always automate part production fully

[bleak valley]

But I really don’t like biofuel

[prime basin]

same

thats my strat too

[abstract girder]

Because the items sent to the space elevator are solely for the space elevator, I design its factory, arranging everything needed in whatever quantity is required for the space elevator, I put in the necessary amount of materials, and it produces as much as is needed.

[rough shore]

im phase 3 currently ive only automated the versatile frameworks the 1k and 2.5k one

[white dawn]

Counterpoint: except for some very early game Phase 1 factories, I basically never tear anything down

[rough shore]

some stuff are just not usable tho?

[prime basin]

same

[real shale]

Sink it

[white dawn]

If you fully automate part production, you:
A) Get to have a nice right source of coupon points to be sunk, and
B) Are setting yourself up to have an easier time with future SE parts. :)

SE parts are just More Factory To Build™, and after all I'm playing this game because I enjoy building factories. :)

Though as you say, for sure, it's personal preference. 🥳

[rough shore]

i need the input currently so removing it is better

[white dawn]

You're far from the only one who doesn't want to automate SE parts. :P

[abstract girder]

So yes, that's an option, but it's difficult because the components needed for a space elevator are very expensive. for me

[prime basin]

i only remove things when i unlock foundations and to rearrange machines before they get connected

[real shale]

I constantly rebuild and optimise

[random haven]

I have rotors already automated so I just need the reinforced plating which is simple enough to automate xp

[real shale]

Must.....squeeze......more.....output....

[white dawn]

Could certainly just be a difference in perspective. I've been through the game multiple times, and nothing feels "expensive" to me. :D It's just more factory to build, etc. Pretty much the only time I ever feel constrained is with early-game biomass, and even that's fairly easy now that we've got belt-fed burners

[prime basin]

yeah

[abstract girder]

What does the word "optimize" mean for this game?

[real shale]

Getting more output for the same input

[abstract girder]

I'm experiencing the same thing you're describing; at the beginning of the game, even a reinforced steel plate seemed expensive, but now turbofuel seems quite cheap :D

[abstract girder]

owww okay

[real shale]

Like I rebuilt my old modular frame factory going from 6/min to 31/min

[abstract girder]

So, Satisfactory Tools does this, right? It optimizes. i think

wait

[spiral stratus]

Would you all say it's hard to get into this game?

[abstract girder]

how can you get more output

[real shale]

Alternative recipes

[abstract girder]

ooooohhhhh

[abstract girder]

Sometimes I look at the world from such a narrow perspective, damn it.

[real shale]

It's easy to get into, hard to get out of

[abstract girder]

No, absolutely not. When I first started playing the game, about a year or two ago, after completing the initial stages on the hub, I thought it was too complicated and couldn't be bothered, so I deleted it. It hadn't even been an hour since I reinstalled it, and I realized how amazing it is.

[bleak valley]

Advanced steel unlocked time to start a steel factory

[abstract girder]

I think the translation is a bit inaccurate, but I hope you understand.

[bleak valley]

Man just swapping to concrete foundations makes a build look a lot nicer

[distant pilot]

Nooo you need to find solid steel ingot recipe first!

[plain marten]

yay my first metro station is complete

[ornate saffron]

Looks good

[crystal cedar]

S1 summoned me?

[crystal cedar]

Again?

[tall lantern]

no

[bleak valley]

Your actually so right I love that recipe

[plain marten]

thx

[real shale]

I'm glad I found the charcoal recipe, was looking everywhere for that one

[bleak valley]

Wait you can put a miner onto a node through foundations

[ornate saffron]

That is a thing

[prime basin]

which needs to be placed first?

[bleak valley]

The foundation

[prime basin]

what does QA stand for in the CSS QA

[distant pilot]

But doesn’t the foundation have to be really close to the ground anyway?

[distant pilot]

Quality Assurance or something to that effect

[prime basin]

ohh

[bleak valley]

I mean I don’t build super far off the ground anyway so this is really helpful to have learned

It gives a lot more angles to rotate the miner at

[stiff fable]

Please advise me. Either I don't know/understand something, or the train timetable system is completely on it's head right now.
I would like to organise my trains in one of 2 manners:

1. raw material mining sites have a dedicated train that distributes e.g. iron among the factories that need it.
2. each factory has a dedicated train that travels along all relevant raw material mining sites and collect necessary resources
   Currently, AFAIK this is IMPOSSIBLE.
   Case 1) A train carrying 5 cars of iron will unload iron for all cars where the platform is set to unload, immediatley clogging the factory logistics with iron.
   Case 2) An empty train docking at a an iron mining site will load 5 full cars of iron, immediately clogging up all space for any other resources.
   This effectively ruins train station reusability, where a tiny change would make it work prefectly:
   Proposed change: when you add load/unload items to the timetable, you also set the car number. Default number is 0 and means "all cars" (i.e. as it works now). In this case the load/unload setting on platforms in no longer needed. Get rid of it, it only introduces artificial complexity and is thus annoying.
   Please explain to me why timetables don't work like this. Or maybe they do, and I just don't know something?

[ornate saffron]

If you use 2m foundations snapped to the world grid putting the miner over to works everytime

[vestal kestrel]

does anyone know where the power shards are produced once unlocked at MAM research

[normal orbit]

Quantum Encoder

[rough shore]

what if he means power slug shards

[bleak valley]

Can’t you just have empty train station spaces where you don’t want specific cars to unload? I’m not super well versed in trains but I thought it only unloaded/loaded if that car had a correctly lined up freight station

[normal orbit]

yes, you can do it, with using wait for full load/unload, so you need to have enough space to take care of excess, like sinking it. However, its more efficient to just have one train for each node and one station for each train. You can also designate it so like train 1 loads from cargo terminal 1 and 2, then train 2 loads from terminal 3 and 4

[vestal kestrel]

thanks

[merry kite]

the satisfactory vinyls were the best purchase ive ever made

amazing quality

[jagged nymph]

🔥

[stiff fable]

Not really. What I want is to have I station with 5 freight platforms for say: p1 loading, p2 unloading iron, p3 unloading limestone, p4 unloading caterium, p5 unloading crude.
Now my problem is when a train comes in with 5 cars full of iron, it will unlpad iron into p2, p3 and p4. It will clog the logistics with excess iron that is not needed at the factory.
And yes, I could have 4 train stations with just 1 freight platform and remaining platforms empty. It would solve the problem, but it's an ugly solution. I want an elegant solution. That's why I said the current timetable mecahnic ruins train station reusability.

[real shale]

258 hours on volanta

[jagged nymph]

im going for 1000

[old grail]

i think you gotta space them evenly with empty stations

[bleak valley]

I’m not sure why yours isn’t working the way you want I have a train just like that three cars long each unloading and loading a seperate item

[stiff fable]

But then I'm just sinking a ton of resources that might have been used elsewhere. And, no subsequent station will get any resources, because everything will be dumped on the first one.

[normal orbit]

Well yes, if you have 4 cars with iron ore it will unload all 4 cars with iron ore if the terminals set to unload

[bleak valley]

Are you only loading the item you want in each car into its specific freight platform

Platform 1 iron only, platform 2 limestone only

[normal orbit]

you can't consolidate 4 cars into one terminal, the game does not work like that, and probably cannot work like that

you can however make it so train can unload car 1 in station 1, car 2 in station 2 and so on

[stiff fable]

How?

[normal orbit]

use the terminal platforms to add spaces

[stiff fable]

I know I can do that, but it makes train stations not reusable at all

[white dawn]

My recommendation is to keep trains simple. A->B transfers. If B needs x/min of something, then have a train take x/min from A to B. If you're using trains in a way where delivery will "clog the logistics with excess iron that is not needed at the factory" then you're making things unnecessarily difficult on yourself

Send exactly what's needed to where it's needed, etc

[bleak valley]

If your gonna ignore every advice given to you then just figure it out yourself

[white dawn]

It feels like you're struggling against how the trains were designed, and trying to make them do things that they're not really suited for

[stiff fable]

The problem is I love the train system. I want to play around with complicated setups, and I'm extremely annoyed by the timetable having such stupid limitations.

[white dawn]

Which, sure, I'm guessing that with work you could get it going

[white dawn]

Right: you're trying to get the system to do things it's just not designed to do

[rancid turret]

if you have a train with 4 freight cars of iron, it should only dock at stations that load or unload iron

[white dawn]

You can probably get things working, but you're kind of causing your own problems. :)

Anyway, yeah, sounds like you want to continue with your plans regardless, so good luck!

[keen flame]

i am no judge of this but it feels like it's more for a hypothetical perfect scenario

[stiff fable]

Well I just wanted to check whether there's simply something I don't know. Clearly there isn't. The timetable system is pointlessly limited. There's also no mod that fixes this. Perhaps I'll make one.

[bleak valley]

Uh I think my game just bugged and deleted a hard drive

[jagged nymph]

yall ever heard of satisfactory

[bleak valley]

I dismantled the drop ship

[white dawn]

Sure, if you want the game to be something that it's not, then mods are generally the only recourse. :)

[normal orbit]

can't dismantle it if the drive still in it

[bleak valley]

I know

But I’ve never been to this area before iirc

[jagged nymph]

clkearly you have

[bleak valley]

I guess I just don’t remember

[rancid turret]

it's a big world

[mystic oriole]

i've had that feeling.
I've ignored paradise island after it was removed, then put back. I went back and fully explored it.

[jagged nymph]

paradise island?

[white dawn]

The little bit of land in the far southwest, disconnected from the rest of the main landmass

[mystic oriole]

The island south west, after the falls.

[jagged nymph]

oh isee

[white dawn]

(there's nothing actually over there except geography, btw)

[stiff fable]

The one with lots of Oil?

[jagged nymph]

thres no resources there it seems

[mystic oriole]

It doesn't have anything on it.

[white dawn]

No, there's no resources on it. Until 1.0 the death border ran right down the middle, but they moved the borders around so you can go build stuff there if you want

[mystic oriole]

It's just pretty.

[feral vector]

lol I just realized you can make a power grid I am not a smart man

[white dawn]

(They were originally just gonna remove it entirely instead of moving the border, but the community liked it, so they kept it in. :)

[bleak valley]

How were you doing it

That’s a scary thought

[white dawn]

You are far from the first to have that realization after having done without for awhile. :)

[prime basin]

nah, whats that?

[feral vector]

to be fair I'm still super early game. had a biomass burner or two for every production chain lol

[jagged nymph]

i think its like a roguelike or smth

[distant pilot]

A factory building roguelike

I wonder how that’d work

[white dawn]

Yeah, that's honestly quite common. The power requirement math makes it pretty easy to divide up like that in the early game, so it's not always obvious. :)

[prime basin]

idk, sound kinda boring

[feral vector]

if I'm gonna redo stuff I might as well start using foundations and get on the world grid

[bleak valley]

I thought for a minute you were putting one bio burner per machine lol but that’s fine

Yeah I’d definitely recommend a power grid

[prime basin]

its free right? theres no way anyone would ever pay for something like that?

[white dawn]

One contrarian note: "World Grid" is, IMO, a trap. I wouldn't bother. The only benefit you get is that if you want to connect up disparate factories across the map on the same grid, then WG lets you do that

[feral vector]

definitely weird to have a biomass burner for one miner and one constructor to make concrete instead of a line of power poles going out there

[jagged nymph]

that actually sounds really fun

waity a minute i think that exists

[white dawn]

But there's a lot of ways to connect up disparate grids even if they're off-alignment, and IMO those tend to look better anyway. (And whether or not you even want to link up remote factories w/ foundations in the first place is another question)

[feral vector]

lining things up is satisfying for my brain XD

[bleak valley]

There is a randomizer mod for satisfactory it’s kinda rouge like if you squint

[white dawn]

Personally I like to align stuff to the local geography, not some arbitrary N/S/E/W alignments

[jagged nymph]

cant remember the game but i think it exists

[feral vector]

yeah that makes sense

[jagged nymph]

i align everything to world grid

[white dawn]

Like keeping a factory on the same local grid absolutely makes sense (though I'm quite apt to have non-90° angles while building too, since that can look a lot cooler), but I've never been even remotely tempted to have every factory on my map be on the exact same grid

[distant pilot]

Simply build above the geography

[white dawn]

Too much restriction on building for my tastes

[jagged nymph]

no build under the map

[prime basin]

damnit you stole my joke

[white dawn]

Yeah, you're not the only one, for sure. :D

[feral vector]

which foundations yall recommend if I do use some

[jagged nymph]

i always use concrete foundation, its so clean

[white dawn]

Definitely not For Me, though. I mostly just bring it up 'cause a lot of folks come away with the impression that World Grid is a necessity, when it's very much just personal preference

[feral vector]

like 1m 2m 4m lol... I think I only have access to concrete

[distant pilot]

1 meter gives you more space if you’re stacking factory buildings

[merry kite]

normal but paint it with the metal paint

so its darker

[jagged nymph]

no you have to unlock conrete foundations in the awesome shop

[feral vector]

1m being misaligned was fixed in a patch right? I tried to watch some beginner stuff but I think I got some outdated info about 1m ones being bad

[jagged nymph]

but for the height it doesnt matter, i usually do 2m

[prime basin]

really?

[feral vector]

oh okay my bad, good to know thx

[prime basin]

i only use 4m

[jagged nymph]

i use 4m in my megafactory

[merry kite]

i like 1m because they are better for vertically tileable blueprints

[white dawn]

If you're using World Grid, 1m-foundations aren't bad, but you don't want to mix them with 2m/4m foundations (at least for the initial placement)

World-Grid-snapped foundations center on the Z axis, so 1m foundations will technically be .5m off

[bleak valley]

I go with 2m unless I need more height then 4m

[white dawn]

So if you have one 1m-snapped foundation somewhere and then another 2m-snapped foundation elsewhere, the two won't align up on the z axis

So if you do use world grid, just make sure that you always either "start" with a 1m foundation, or with 2m/4m foundations

That way things'll line up properly

[bleak valley]

Finding hard drives kinda sucks when you can’t scan for them

[feral vector]

by start you mean like if I'm setting up foundations in a new area?

[white dawn]

(although again: I personally recommend against World Grid anyway. You can trivially merge any remote grids and it'll look cooler regardless. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_2i8T3Dbw etc. :)

[stiff fable]

I wasn't ignoring any advice. I was just explaining why the advice provided is not what I want to achieve.

[feral vector]

and I thought the misalignment on the z-axis thing is what got fixed in 1.0 but I'm brand new so it's not like I'm confident I'm understanding things correctly lol

[white dawn]

I suppose it's possible they did change it in 1.0 and I just didn't notice. :)

So long as you stay consistent with your first placement, though, it wouldn't matter either way

(It also doesn't matter if you just don't use world grid in the first place! 🥳 )

[jagged nymph]

what if you need to connect it to another building

[bleak valley]

The world grid is never at the right angle for me so I don’t bother with it

[white dawn]

See, for instance, the link I posted a few posts ago. :)

[bleak valley]

I haven’t had to connect any foundation platforms before

[white dawn]

There's a lot of ways to connect up disparate grids via foundation

But for myself, I just have basically never wanted to connect up remote factories via foundations anyway

So it sort of doesn't matter

[bleak valley]

I found solid steel

[white dawn]

But if I did want to connect 'em, I'd prioritize how well the individual factories fit into the local landscape than have to do a tiny bit more work to merge a foundation line

I use non-90° angles on my factories with relative frequency anyway; once you're used to it it's really not bad

So connecting up a "road" or whatever which has a non-90° angle in it isn't daunting to me at all

(Again, of course: personal preference. You're far from the only person who swears by World Grid. :)

[feral vector]

It seems like I should start belting resources back to a central area instead of having production chains where the resources are, that true?

[jagged nymph]

either way is valid

[white dawn]

If you want, but if you invest in Dimensional Depot research + buildout, "central storage" becomes very much a labor of love

[feral vector]

alright fair enough

[white dawn]

I still like building Central Storage 'cause it's a fun logistics challenge, but once your Depots have been upgraded + built out, there's not a lot of inherent reason to have taken the effort

[granite mango]

hey guys! new here and to the game, i got to hub 5 and started mesign around with smelters constructors and belts, got som equestions

1. I started my hub pretty much near where I spanwed, next to the first iron mines, ive connected the 4 mines to my smelters and figured Id want to do the same for copper but I realize how far away they are from my hub and that belts have somewhat of a limiting range. how do I go about connecting those too?
2. im running through my leaves very fast and an energy source is somewhat of an issue, i did find random coals sitting but thats not going to be enough forever - how do i manage early power?
3. I simply cant find a use as for now for conveyor belt - unless thats the answer to my first question where they are currently a "belt extender"
   and the last one aint much of a question - but more of a request for a tip, currently im just randomly placing smelters\constructors without a real plan in mind and im still learning, are there any important tips I should look at so I wont have to rebuild everything just because of a simple starter design? ( for example I realized I should first place a power pole next to my biomass burners to get more "ports" for the grid - should I just feed a single grid with everything or create a bunch of seperate ones?)

[feral vector]

I feel like I'm a long way away from dimensional depots heh

[bleak valley]

I just noticed the mam has a progress bar on it so you don’t have to open the menu

[bleak valley]

You can connect multiple belts together the max length is just for one section

So you build one at max length then attach another at the end point and stretch it further

[feral vector]

for #2, unlock the thing to craft biomass, then later unlock the thing to craft solid biomass, those are way more efficient than burning leaves or wood

[granite mango]

oh alright, whats the logic with that tho?

[ornate saffron]

@tough laurel

Trying to be Icarus there mate?

[next ivy]

no logic, you just need a belt support every x meters

[tough laurel]

i huh? who?

[bleak valley]

Belts automate everything so unless you want to spend the entire game running back and forth putting items into machines they are your best friend

[ornate saffron]

I saw your screenshot of your power.

Icarus flew to close to the sun

[granite mango]

I mean, whats the point in having to place a few "sections" and not letting us straight up connect A to B

[tough laurel]

oh lol yeah im trying to fix my probblems with more fuel

[jagged nymph]

belts have a max length

[granite mango]

ah alright thats probably what happens at hub 6, guess I jumped the gun with trying to go full power

[granite mango]

So i gotta use conveyor poles as an extender?

[jagged nymph]

it automatically adds a support when you place a belt

[feral vector]

yeah hub 6 is biomass and in tier 2 you can get obstacle clearing for a chainsaw and solid biofuel

[jagged nymph]

hold on lemme make a video rq

[tranquil bolt]

Belts connect to eachother. You can place belt supports or have stackable belts.

Build foundations square with the world. And build on top of them. You will end up with multiple different versions of your factories especially on the first go around.

[granite mango]

thank you, got it - I still dont understand why it has to be segmented like that and they have a max range but the video does help to understand!

[jagged nymph]

its just cause you kinda need a limit, like if there was no limit you could simply connect a belt from one machine to another one across the map, which makes logistics too easy

and would cause texture issues, since the belt texture just stretches to fit on the length of a belt, so a super long belt would look wierd

[granite mango]

so I should make an habit of first making foundations before placing any building?
I dont think I got those unlocked yet but wont that make initial costs high for starting out?

[prime basin]

and becasue its a spline

splines dont work well over long distances

[cunning glade]

I do

[jagged nymph]

you dont have to place stuff on foundations but it looks alot better and makes it easier to place stuff

[jagged nymph]

that too

[cunning glade]

I don't build till foundations but that's me

I find it's a good habit too get into but it will make the start a tad slower

But I automate concrete and plates almost immediately

[granite mango]

cant you still just do it based on the video you sent? it wont be point A to C but it would be point A to B to C, thats where im not understanding the logic haha

[ornate saffron]

Its easier to judge and learn sizes if you build on foundations. Do you strictly need them, well no but they are helpful.

[cunning glade]

I gotta go grocery shopping so I can come back home and start the factory

[jagged nymph]

i mean yeah but it encourages people to make logistics that are easy to follow, organized, and look good, instead of just having belts all over the place in all directions. Also the other reasons stated

[tranquil bolt]

Yes place foundations and keep them square to the world by holding ctrl when youre going to place them. Then place buildings on the foundations and keep it all aligned and square.

Dont worry about putting belts on foundations unless you wanna be super super neat. Always build 2-3 times bigger than you think youll need to help prep you for end game items. Screws will always be a pain btw

[granite mango]

welp, thanks for the foundations, still dont have it unlocked yet so I guess im just jumping the gun again haha, Ill wait

[cunning glade]

Screws are completely optional

[tranquil bolt]

Yes the initial start up cost is higher, but once you get a few milestones in youll have so many iron plates and so much concrete you wont know what to do with it

[granite mango]

what about power grids when starting out? Should I have a bunch of biomass burners connect to same pole an dmake a larger grid over having a few different grids?

[cunning glade]

Yes one grid

[jagged nymph]

one big piece of advice ill give you is make sure you arent overloading your belts. If you try to send 200 screws/minute over a mk2 belt (which can only do 120/minute) it will only send 120/minute and the other 80 just wont be moved

[tranquil bolt]

You dont have to start out with foundations yet. Youre not there yet on the game but you will be

[jagged nymph]

you should have one big power grid that everything is connected to

[feral vector]

hmm I don't think my starting location is particularly good, I figure lots of people end up here cause if you ping at the start there's a triple iron node close

[cunning glade]

For biomass I do 2 rows of 15 to start cuz a full belt of 60 solid fuel can feed 15 bio mass gens

[feral vector]

I want to build out into this field but there's a big fart cloud heh

[cunning glade]

And then I do one row leaves one row wood

[jagged nymph]

i mean starting location doesnt really matter, youre gonna expand your factories out across the entire map

[prime basin]

build around

[cunning glade]

Should last plenty of time till coal

[tall lantern]

as long as it's got the basic resources you need nearby, you'll be fine. You'll be expanding across the map soon enough

[tranquil bolt]

Mk1 poles allow for 4 connections. Try to place biomass burners in a solid row and keep it expandable. I always use 1 pole per machine.

When you get far enough in you wont be using biomass at all unless you want to. Later youll unlock rocket fuel, fuel burners, and nuclear power

[feral vector]

15 is crazy lol

[cunning glade]

I also sloop my biofuel production at the start

[jagged nymph]

?

[feral vector]

I think I have like 6 right now is all I'm not disagreeing

[jagged nymph]

?

[cunning glade]

I think he means too reply too me

[jagged nymph]

6 what

[cunning glade]

Kinda my guess here but idk

[feral vector]

oh I'm a moron I replied to wrong comment

[jagged nymph]

i usually have about 30 bio burners before getting to coal

[feral vector]

I meant to reply to the one above about the 15x biofuel x2

[plain marten]

i wonder when the endgame is going to be updated? it would be cool if you had to like finish project assembly again and you get new objectives which is to finish project assemblies within a certain frequency

[cunning glade]

Well u do a row of splitters and then u do a biomass burner on each side of it

[tranquil bolt]

I have over 30 fuel burners🤣 17k in power lol

[cunning glade]

And it's 15 cuz 4 goes into 60 15 times

[feral vector]

yeah I gotta rebuild... I have biofuel burners all over the place

[jagged nymph]

only 30?

[cunning glade]

So it'll eat a full belt of solid biofuel

[jagged nymph]

im gonna have about 1200 fuel burners when i do rocket fuel

[feral vector]

in hindsight that is not very smart, in real life obviously power production is consolodated and sent out along power lines

[cunning glade]

I actually have 20 pure oil nodes

So Idk how too deal with using a whole bunch of 1 train setups I'll figure it out

But I should be able too make a lot of rf

Just gotta get it in one spot eventually

[tranquil bolt]

I cant remember how many i have. I know i have around 20 coal burners in one location, i think somewhere between 30 and 40 turbo fuel burning, and i have another 15 maybe? On my aluminum production to burn off the water from that

If we could send pics id send a pic of my main turbo fuel station lol

[jagged nymph]

im gonna have 1200 💔 i am NOT excited to place all of them 😭

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots and #design-and-architecture both exist

[cunning glade]

Fully overclocked right

[tranquil bolt]

Still new to this disc. Havent used it much. Long time listener tho

[jagged nymph]

nope, i could lower it to about 500 if i overclock, but thats ALOT of slugs

and i dont feel like collecting that many

[ornate saffron]

At most ud only collect 250^-^

[jagged nymph]

500*3=1500. 1500 shards. And its actually more than 500 gens

[tranquil bolt]

I posted it in screenshots, although probably the wrong thread for it

[tall lantern]

there's ~5000 shards worth of slugs on the map, and they're later infinitely producible anyway

[ornate saffron]

Most i did was 960 at 240%

[jagged nymph]

alot

[cunning glade]

Def worth it also it's really not that many if u sloop ur slugs

[jagged nymph]

576gw is alot

[night summit]

If i put resource node randomization on basic resource rich will that only effect basic resources and stuff like oil and all that be in the same place as always

[jagged nymph]

true

[jagged nymph]

it will still be random it just means it will generate alot more basic resources than normal

[ornate saffron]

Oh I had more then that. I just overclocked 960 of them lol.

[cunning glade]

How much rf

[jagged nymph]

oh god

[night summit]

Ok

[cunning glade]

Do gens burn on stock

[jagged nymph]

?

[night summit]

Which one should i make rich basic advanced or fossil fuel? Im thinking fossil fuel

[cunning glade]

How much rf do gens burn stock a min

[toxic zenith]

Has anyone ever had success using Steam to stream the Epic version of Satisfactory? I added it as a non-Steam game to my library but when I launch it it launches on the remote (host) machine instead.

[jagged nymph]

about 4.166

[tall lantern]

25/6 = 4.1666...

[cunning glade]

Isn't it 4 a min yeah

[inland urchin]

Hello everyone. New to satisfactory. I am on tier 4 and started making a factory out of foundations and walls to have it more centralized and started organization by floor. I have it built skinnier at the bottom and wider on top im trying to have one shipping port on my ground floor. Should I do this and keep up with it or am I going to be getting different walls and floors and things. Also how big should I make the building to future proof it. I JUST started coal I have 2 coal and 9 bio burners. It def took the load off so I don’t have to go chainsaw. What should I be doing for future proofing and how wide should my shipping port and assembly’s be on top

[ornate saffron]

240% oc makes it 10/min

[cunning glade]

So I would've need 2256 non overclocked I think

Cuz I did 15 floors of 60 with 240% gens

Which comes out too around 900 if my math is right

Yeah not ocing that would've sucked

Gens imo are the thing u always power shard at least rocket fuel ones

The rest I could see it making sense too not

But rf def needs them

[ornate saffron]

To be fair if you are making mass rocketfuel you are likely end game and can make powershards

[cunning glade]

Not really

I make rf way way before t9

[tranquil bolt]

Has anyone started nuclear? I have it all unlocked but havent done it yet

[cunning glade]

I made 9454.54 like First thing I did in t7 and t8

And I'm still in phase 4

Don't even got the first part automated

[jagged nymph]

nope nobody has ever started nuclear

[ornate saffron]

You can. And I do. But do you need mass rocket fuel then. One pure oil node gives you 2400 rocket fuel. Do you need need more power then that?

[cunning glade]

Well if u were going off by using 1 oil node maybe

But I go too blue Crater and just used all the oil

[tranquil bolt]

It kinda seems like a huge pain to do lol

[cunning glade]

Okay then I added some in

In total it's 3900 oil a min I think

I also slightly worry about power

[ornate saffron]

Its fine. Gets around needing to place 100s of fuel generators

[next ivy]

which is why no one has ever even started building it

[ornate saffron]

I worry when I get to 80% use. Then I expand

[jagged nymph]

exactly, its simply too difficult

[cunning glade]

I think ffr is a bit silly and too resource intensive

I think if it was made a bit cheaper more people would go for it

[tranquil bolt]

I would like to do nuclear, just for the hell of it

Someone help me do it tho🤣

[feral vector]

Hmm I should probably build my first foundation up a bit so it goes over stuff like rocks that are in my way

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm doing gonna do 112 ficsonium fuel rods a min from 2100 uranium a min

[tranquil bolt]

Could also go out to the ocean on the west side of map and build there. Thats kinda what i did lol

[cunning glade]

I build with 4m and I use 1-3 of them too make legs for the actual foundation platform

[feral vector]

Man I should probably just build somewhere else so I have resources coming in while I mess around

[ornate saffron]

A few ppl here enjoying helping with nuclear projects. Just keep your eyes peeled as you lurk

[cunning glade]

Ugh I don't wanna get up but I do wanna Factory

[jagged nymph]

how many petawatts

[feral vector]

I figure I'll stay in this starter area, I can do something like that later on or in another playthrough

[cunning glade]

No clue I think it's supposed too add 1.4tw I could be very wrong tho

[whole basin]

not really worth it

[jagged nymph]

wdym

[cunning glade]

Says who

[feral vector]

Okay thanks. And then might as well use 4m foundations for the actual platform?

[ornate saffron]

The game is designed in a way to force you out of the starting areas. You will eventually

[cunning glade]

It's worth it cuz of the challenge or were u gonna say it's not worth power wise or what

[jagged nymph]

hes clearly just tring to maximize his power output (and challenge himself), so who are you to say its "not worth it"

[cunning glade]

No I'm just doing it for fun

Ye there we go

[ornate saffron]

Worth if the player is enjoying it

[jagged nymph]

what was that

[cunning glade]

But also cuz yes I maybe get close too running out of power

[cunning glade]

Bot with a server inv

[jagged nymph]

oh

[whole basin]

that is not how you max power output with nuclear, not enough SAM

[feral vector]

Yeah of course I mean I'm just not gonna rush to some OP base spot off the rip I'm trying to play without looking up how to do everything. We'll see how long that lasts though lol doing stuff myself has been pretty janky so far

[cunning glade]

Ik 2 of my builds uses close too 100gw

If not over cuz of pa so

Def a tad worried about power but 700gw should last

[jagged nymph]

it literally is but ok. Using uranium rods, plut rods, and fics rods is way more power than just uranium rods

[ornate saffron]

For sure. Play at your pace. Embrace jank I do

[prime basin]

the bot updated every channel for me

[cunning glade]

Well yeah u need too sloop reanimated Sam or something

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message

[feral vector]

Yeah if I look too much stuff up I tend to optimize the fun out of things. Even though in this game optimizing is kinda the point heh

[whole basin]

using SAM to get more uranium gives more power

[tranquil bolt]

What ever you do. Do not. I repeat. DO NOT rush thru milemarks and phases till you have it fully automated

[cunning glade]

But then more waste u can't turn into ficsonium

[feral vector]

Lol not me manually crafting reinforced plates

[cunning glade]

Also I don't want power I mean I do want some Incase I use all of mine

[feral vector]

I have an assembler but I just throw stuff into it lmao

[cunning glade]

But I'm mainly doing it for the fun challenge of 112 ficsonium fuel rods a min

[jagged nymph]

he siad hes trying to challenge himself, and like he just said its more waste you cant get rid of. You dont get to decide whats worth it to other people just cause you wouldnt do it

[feral vector]

I did set it up so I have the proper ratios to feed my screws and plates into an assembler just didn't get around to it

[whole basin]

you can get rid of it, just in different way

[jagged nymph]

how?

[cunning glade]

With no waste and no sinks how ?

[feral vector]

And then I think I need another setup that feeds screws and rods into an assembler for uhhh whatever the other part I need is to make the thing that I put in the space elevator

[whole basin]

plutonium rods into sink instead of plant

[cunning glade]

See I want a fully clean setup

A byproduct is not clean

[jagged nymph]

youre still just ignoring the important part of the messages and only acknowledging the parts that support your point

[tranquil bolt]

Do any yall play together and help eachother out?

[cunning glade]

I personally play with a friend

[hearty flame]

ah yes... tearing everything down for the 2nd time
gotta love it

[whole basin]

well, ficsonium is a nice challenge to build, but too many resources are needed for dark matter residue to complete the loop on a large scale

[cunning glade]

#1201555265942724758 if u want people and if u actually need help people go too #1038092680493801533 but yes people help all the time and play together

In here tho no not really we just chat about the game

[tranquil bolt]

I was but then he got married🤣

[jagged nymph]

and as we know married people physically cant play factory games

[cunning glade]

What

[prime basin]

I've lost to many to marriage

[unkempt blade]

I've been waiting on IT to respond to my ticket all day today and I've gotten to add so many gratuitous cart routes while getting paid

[cunning glade]

In terms of dark matter residue I'm able too make that pretty easily and even easier if I want either 480 power shards a min or 336 superposition oscillators

[ornate saffron]

Im slowly becomes a crazy old cat lady.

[cunning glade]

As a byproduct but I don't so I disabled thoose alts

[unkempt blade]

more of a cat hoarder or full on simpsons-style cat slinger?

[ornate saffron]

Y not both ^-^

[tranquil bolt]

Yeah. I have a kid so i only get to play like after 10:30 and go till 2-3 am when he wakes back up lol

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Y04jOnWG5sFauJDEgQ36 my plan if u wanna look at it

Math wise im pretty sure it's right still have too fine tune it

But I'm not doing nuclear for a min so we chilling anyways

[jagged nymph]

skill issue

[unkempt blade]

kids are such high maintenance pets 🙁

[tranquil bolt]

Fr. I got 2

Most expensive things i got

[jagged nymph]

just get -1 kids so you actually make money instead

[tranquil bolt]

They make an RTX 5090 look cheap🤣

[cunning glade]

Cats make for the best kids

[prime basin]

GENIUS

[unkempt blade]

did you consider just 1 and overclocking it to 200%?

[jagged nymph]

but then the money grows exponentially

[tranquil bolt]

Theyre both overclocked

[cunning glade]

Well chat I'm gonna smoke and then go grocery shopping so I can game peace o7

[jagged nymph]

thats like bad for you chat

[cunning glade]

I think remembering is worse for me so smoking is nice

[tranquil bolt]

Ada says to multi task. Youre being inefficient

[cunning glade]

I can't hold a blowtorch too a bong well driving

[prime basin]

skill issue

[cunning glade]

Safety issue

For like multiple reasons

[tranquil bolt]

Drive with your knees

[hearty flame]

short people exist

they cant do that

[cunning glade]

Or I just smoke and then drive the 2 mins too the store

[tranquil bolt]

Oh yeah lol. Im 6’4 its easy for me

[unkempt blade]

you just need to get some modern hardware for your modern problems

[cunning glade]

Fair

Did see someone make a robot

[jagged nymph]

install a lightsaber in the roof of your var

[storm scroll]

Yooo question do some drop pods not have hard drives In them !!

[cunning glade]

That feed dabs too there banger for them

[jagged nymph]

no they all do

[late swift]

hey gng i js started satisfactory should i continue

[storm scroll]

wtf then why did I not get one haha

[jagged nymph]

if you enjoy the game

[storm scroll]

I just opened one up !

[cunning glade]

Yes it shall become ur life

[jagged nymph]

if there wasnt one in it then youve already collected it

[unkempt blade]

unless you looted it already and forgot because you were also doing dabs on the way to the grocery store

[late swift]

does splitting the output from one miner into two smelters actually make production faster

[storm scroll]

First time I even been near the site was exploring round

[cunning glade]

If one can't keep up yes

[tranquil nimbus]

did they fix trains yet? or do they still lock the inputs when they're being loaded/unloaded

[cunning glade]

So if ur making 60 a min from the miner and only smelting 30 of it you'd want a second one

[tranquil nimbus]

wait wrong channel. sorry

[jagged nymph]

thats intended, its not a bug

[cunning glade]

Intended u wanna buffer train inputs and outputs I triple buffer if not double buffer

[tranquil bolt]

Much.

[tranquil nimbus]

wait really? why would it be intentional if the car port doesn't have that problem

[jagged nymph]

cause the 2 work differently

[tranquil nimbus]

no like, why would they intentionally make trains have a weirdly limited throughput

[remote siren]

someone can give me some tips how to improve my train blueprint? never worked with trains or blueprints at all #design-and-architecture message

[cunning glade]

They don't

[whole basin]

Seems ok, for SAM at least, too many variables (recipes) for other stuff

[cunning glade]

Loading and unloading does not affect throughput for trains really

At least with min maxing them

U use buffers

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure they've given an actual reason for it but practically you can make your trains longer if this is actually a limit on your throughput

[tranquil nimbus]

buffers yes, but it means that you can't fully utilize both conveyor ports on the stations. it just bugs me

[cunning glade]

What

[tranquil bolt]

You guys blueprint?

[cunning glade]

U can use all 4 ports at the same time what

[remote siren]

for train lines i will, want to have it look consistent throughout the map

[unkempt blade]

plus we all know if you want really high vehicle throughput you need to use factory carts #screenshots message

[tranquil nimbus]

like, a level 6 belt can carry 1200 items if I'm remembering right. but the train station's maximum input isn't 2400, it's slightly less because every time a train stops there there's a 30 second delay where the belts back up

[tranquil bolt]

How many train lines are you running lol

[tranquil nimbus]

I like trains and use them whenever I can

[unkempt blade]

keeping with that math I'd just say there are going to be very few train routes with just 2 minutes of load+unload+travel time so generally you're not going to hit that limit unless you're unloading a train almost constantly

and there's 2 output conveyors so you can empty the entire thing in a minute when it's unblocked

[unkempt blade]

ya but it's mostly just rainbows #screenshots message

[tranquil nimbus]

I believe the fact that you need to optimize for 2 minute trips at all is the fault of the 30 second pause, right? without it you could just run as many trains as you need

[manic pewter]

hey people, is there any recommended satisfactory server hoster?

or provider or anything

[jagged nymph]

your own pc

dedicated servre on your pc

[manic pewter]

yeah but that can't be on for 24/7 tho

[jagged nymph]

why not?

[unkempt blade]

I'm more suggesting that it's going to be a very edge case kind of situation where you'd run into needing to deal with that

[manic pewter]

cuz uuh it takes a lotta performance power in the background when i want to do diff stuff

[jagged nymph]

ig

[cunning glade]

Yes but that's where u buffer

[manic pewter]

well i look for a provider to pay monthly or something, i highly doubt there will be free ones

[tranquil nimbus]

I'm sure it is more of an edge case than it feels to me. I just don't like having to buffer inputs and optimize for specific trip times when it's an issue the other transportation methods don't have

[cunning glade]

U don't like too buffer what? It's how trains are designed but okay ig

[tranquil nimbus]

yes, but even with buffering there's no way to bring the throughput to 2400. it'll always be less because of the pause stealing some of the time that would otherwise be available for inputting items

[cunning glade]

Max throughput is like 5k or something

[tranquil nimbus]

how does this work? I've not heard of this

[cunning glade]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/6fezikbafu

Based off what I understand from that

[unkempt blade]

also depends how you set up your train routes and how many trains you're using. I don't really use buffers but I do have more trains than I need to keep the intake as consistent as possible

[cunning glade]

But I wanna start driving

[cunning glade]

True I just think buffers work so well with trains and look nice

I prefer them plus then I can set too wait till empty or full

As I'm gonna try and reduce traffic as much as possible

Which speaking of are roundabouts good?

[tranquil nimbus]

I think this is for a train with four cars

I may be wrong. I'll admit this is a bit out of my depth

all I'm really trying to say is that among all the input and output ports in the game, the train is the only one I can think of with a de facto throughput less than what's listed, and that's because of the pause. so I always assumed it was a bug or something they were trying to update

[cunning glade]

U on pc?

[tranquil nimbus]

for the game, yes, but I am currently on my cell phone

[cunning glade]

U can get a mod too remove the whole doesn't output or input stuff well the train is loading

[tranquil bolt]

Isnt satisfactory only on pc?

[cunning glade]

Not anymore

[tranquil nimbus]

now this is good to hear. I'd be interested in trying this

[cunning glade]

Alot of super peak mods also MK2 trains which I personally love they double how many slots they have

And u can get 4 way loading ones or unloading ones

Also 4800 fluid instead of whatever it is stock

Iirc

[kind kite]

Guys I finished my main save and did alot of factory building and even made a 1milion mega Watt oil power generator farm but now I don't know what to do. I want to play satisfactory on a server with Someone but I just don't have anybody go play with.

[cunning glade]

And they're more expensive u have too unlock them so somewhat balanced imo

Also faster trains which I like cuz trains feel slow

[tranquil nimbus]

I would love a train platform that could have separate loading and unloading phases, I think that would be very cool. it's bothersome having to build two stations right next to each other or have a train where half of it is always empty

[jagged nymph]

#1201555265942724758

[cunning glade]

Prolly more of a balance reason there

[kind kite]

Oki

[cunning glade]

And ig somewhat realistic but me like fast things

Anyways I'm off too the store shouldn't waste gas with it being almost 4$ a gallon now yippie

[hidden rapids]

Is it possible for SATISFACTORY to use 2 gpus?

[tranquil nimbus]

I may have autism but the visual discomfort I feel when I see a train with some full carriages and some empty carriages is very real

[tranquil nimbus]

fair enough. I want to try drones out but they scare me

[cunning glade]

Drones are peak and super easy why they scare u

[tranquil bolt]

Its not the game that will use 2 gpu’s its your motherboard. Any modern cpu/ and gpu will be more than enough. I dont drop below 140 fps on 4k even in my biggest factory.

[cunning glade]

No sli or dual GPU is dead

[unkempt blade]

I mostly don't like drones because they're the least awesome looking of all the vehicles when in use

[tranquil nimbus]

complex fuel requirements, and the travel destination menu is a bit confusing

[cunning glade]

No games will no CPUs will have enough lanes for 2 GPUs in x16

[hidden rapids]

Modern HAHHA

I probably should have said that I want to use my 2013 Mac Pro that is maxed out

This is my best computer (other than steam deckh

[cunning glade]

Easy fuel requirements tbh and menu isn't that bad I don't think but fair

[unkempt blade]

not sure what actual specs you're running but I'd think it at least might run on lower video settings

[tranquil nimbus]

vehicles that use fuel mess with my numbers, I try to keep everything as efficient as possible and it's really hard to account for the exact fuel costs of vehicles

[tranquil bolt]

I have a ryzen 9850x3d, x870, and RX 7900 xtx. But i just came from a i7 9700kf, z390-p, and rtx 3070ti. On 1440 with both set ups i couldnt see too much of a difference. I just wanted 3 34” 4k monitors lmao

[cunning glade]

I do the same

[unkempt blade]

you're perfect for factory carts then 🙂

[hidden rapids]

Dual AMD D7000
64Gb ram
Intel xenon E5-2697

[cunning glade]

For drones tho I'm making 9454.54 rocket fuel a min I package that 400 spare and let it go too drones

If I run out I can not only sloop the machines

But go make more somewhere

[tranquil nimbus]

honestly with the new pathing system I may try those out. I desperately want to know if they can ride elevators

[unkempt blade]

I actually haven't tried them to see if elevators are viable. I have used ramps and jump pads though

Jump pads are definitely the style winner

[noble bolt]

I just finished wasting like 6 hours to build a smart plating production chain. All that, to make like 20 of them per minute. It feels like I'm doing something not right

[tranquil bolt]

Jumping off beans> jump pads

[torpid rock]

that does sound like a lot of time for only smart plating

[unkempt blade]

you've got the new tag so I'm going with "you're still learning the game, be kind to yourself while you figure stuff out"

[tranquil bolt]

It must be super neat. Later in the game youll be able to speed it up. Remember to keep it expandable

[noble bolt]

Well, that's the first factory I ever made. Had to tear down the little beginning stuff, start placing new stuff with new ratios, figuring out how to make those ratios not suck, found out about that there are manifolds and balancers, the math didn't click(they work?), then I found out that the power demands are 600 MV, and I only have 300...

So then I had to setup a coal thingie...

And now the factory randomly shuts down every few minutes

[tranquil bolt]

Just wait till you get to turbo fuel and rocket fuel

[unkempt blade]

yeah you're totally just learning the game, just enjoy it don't stress too much about how fast you do it or how perfect the outcome is 😄

you'll get better/faster with practice and you get practice by doing projects like that

[torpid rock]

well if you didn't even know about manifolds and balancers it's totally normal to take your time

[noble bolt]

I turned off a few of the screw makers, so it should not cross the 600 boundary - and the max it gets is 596, but sometimes production still halts

[torpid rock]

if you want I can help you troubleshoot

[tranquil bolt]

You will most likely break down your factory 76 times, your hair will go grey, and youll be up 96 hours at a time. But itll be worth it

[noble bolt]

I honestly have no idea why it's happening. Sometimes capacity just goes down and the rest of the gens follow

[tranquil bolt]

On the west side of the map is 4 good coal mines right on the ocean. I recommend building a large power grid there and running power to your factory

[torpid rock]

oh your power production is unbalanced, if there's one thing you should get right it's power

[tranquil bolt]

Also dont turn screws off. Youre shooting your self in the knee doing that

[noble bolt]

I am a spaghetti terrorist. You must never go inside one of those buildings, because the ratios are perfect, but the belts are tangled

[unkempt blade]

either water or coal isn't always available for some reason. You probably just need to double check your math + debug from there

[noble bolt]

Nope, all of them have atleast a tenner in them

[hard bloom]

About to start my coal power plant on my 1.2 play through and I have access to compacted coal, anyone know if its truely worth the while to deal with the creation of compacted coal opposed to just regular coal?

[torpid rock]

I personally have started to literally map out every single building and recipe ratio of my factories on paper

[tranquil bolt]

You should see mine then. You can ask me how much clipping i have, and ill tell you “all of it”

[torpid rock]

well if they're shutting down they're either missing water or coal

[noble bolt]

Those were additional ones, they are not needed for production

[torpid rock]

ew, i mean you do you but no thank you

[shy basalt]

anyone wanna make a factory together?

[tranquil bolt]

Im sorting it out lol. I did that very early game

[torpid rock]

ok that's fair

[tranquil bolt]

Yes

[torpid rock]

what items

[tranquil bolt]

All of them

[jagged nymph]

so a megafactory

[tranquil bolt]

A double mega factory

[shy basalt]

did you wanna actually start a world together?

[jagged nymph]

a hyper mega super ultra crazy super duper ultra mega factory?

[tranquil bolt]

Sure why not. I can start up s server so we can both join and go as we please. Or you can start one

[jagged nymph]

the people in #1201555265942724758 do

[shy basalt]

either way

[torpid rock]

so @noble bolt do you want help with your smart plating or coal power or both?

[tranquil bolt]

The size factory that crashs a thread ripper and rtx 5090 set up

[noble bolt]

I guess I wouldn't mind the help with the coal

[jagged nymph]

threadripper bad for gaming

[noble bolt]

I have a few ideas as to why it might be failing, but nothing concrete

[tranquil bolt]

I meant like a thread ripper sever computer. I will build a factory that crashs that out. Maybe even causing it to spontaneously combust

[shy basalt]

ill start it soon and i also can always leave it open so you dont have to worry about wether im on or not

[jagged nymph]

i should setup a dedicated server for running various game servers for me and my friends

wouldnt be too expensive

cause it doesnt need super high end parts

[kind kite]

U dont even need a gpu just some ram and a cpu and it can run fine

Or a old gpu card that u dont use at all

[tranquil bolt]

Ram? In this economy? Are you nuts?

[jagged nymph]

im gonna upgrade my gpu soon so i can use it

[tranquil bolt]

I have an rx 580 ill donate to the cause

[kind kite]

I have like 100 difrent 2 gb ddr3 ram sticks lol theyre usless but good for server ram

[jagged nymph]

rx 580 🥀

[shy basalt]

the best way to get ram rn is facebook market place lol

[kind kite]

brotha rx 580 is like one of the best bugget cards

im lituraly running satisfactory on hopes and dreams on a gtx 1070 ti and a i5-6600

[jagged nymph]

im gonna upgrade to a 5070 ti soon

[tranquil bolt]

Dont hate on the ol 580. That sucker is trusty rusty. Only been over clocked its entire existence and torture tested all the time. I call it high miles

[torpid rock]

i sent a DM

[jagged nymph]

lowk heard overclocked and thought you were making a joke referencing satisfactory for a second before i realized, i guess ive played too much satisfactory recently 😭

[honest summit]

I just finished phase 2 and wanna set up my main base now cause my old base is hella spaghetti but idk how to setup a base/location in satisfactory its my first time playing

like the outline for the base how to organize it

[jagged nymph]

however you want

[tranquil bolt]

I let that 580 cook on furmark with the fans off of it for 2 weeks straight. That things still mint

Might need new thermal paste*

[real shale]

Thermal pasta

[prime basin]

delicious

[torpid rock]

sorry i ated it all

[tranquil bolt]

Nuclear pasta

[jagged nymph]

nuclear paste and thermal pasta

[hearty flame]

Set up an area made up of foundations

[jagged nymph]

thermal propasta rocket

[tranquil bolt]

How ever big you “think” your new factory should be, double it.

[jagged nymph]

then double it again, and double once more

[kind kite]

Just make like a quarter of the map a foundatuon straight line then build absolutely everything there lol

[tranquil bolt]

Double it and give it to the next guy

[hearty flame]

lmao i aint even explored a quarter yet

[feral vector]

damn lol you guys are making me nervous, maybe I should have made my foundation higher so it could cover a bigger area without running into anything

[shy basalt]

@hollow pendant check your dm

[hearty flame]

do it, im on my 3rd tear down

[kind kite]

I remember thinking that 10 motors per minute was a lot boy was I wrong

[jagged nymph]

💀 💀

i remember thinking 5 modular frames per minute was a lot actually

[feral vector]

alrighty

[real shale]

I remember thinking 1 turbo motor a minute was a lot

[jagged nymph]

i remember thinking 50 smart plating was insane

[tranquil bolt]

I remember hand crafting screws thinking, boy im a big shot now

[jagged nymph]

then i saw the 1000 requirement and quit for like 3 months

[distant pilot]

I thought they did actually

[keen flame]

lmfao

[distant pilot]

The world grid snaps in 1m increments vertically

[tranquil bolt]

Is smart plating really smart? Or just slightly smart

[jagged nymph]

its poretty dumb

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[torpid rock]

quick yes or no question, can you turn a single player save file into a multiplayer one (without using a server)

[tranquil bolt]

Yes

[real shale]

I remember.......everything

[tranquil bolt]

It is multiplayer already isnt it? Cant you drop a code to your friends amd they can joinit?

[distant pilot]

I remember thinking

[reef basin]

There's not even anything like "singleplayer". That's just multiplayer on a locally hosted server

[real shale]

Also I love all the spam bots that come into this server just to meet a dead end in doing so

[tranquil bolt]

How many hours do yall got invested in your worlds?

[torpid rock]

ah found the setting nvm

[plush pike]

@soft blade not nice

[real shale]

6 or 7 hundred hours on mine

Need to double check

[tranquil bolt]

Seems i only have 208.7 hours in mine

[plush pike]

cCJ thats so tuff

[tranquil bolt]

Not really lol

[jagged nymph]

i lowk feel like hand feeding these spelevator parts just to get fuel power rq then going back and automating them

[prime basin]

yep

[kind kite]

Its just like a town hall in clash of clans u rush to higher townhall to get the perks from the higher town hall than u can go back down to upgrade ur buildings same in satisfactory

[warm remnant]

i need separate pipe for every 6 coal generators?

[prime basin]

what happens if you try to join a 1.1 server when you are in 1.2 what happens?

[tranquil bolt]

Put pipe Tees infront of everyone and then connect them together. Makes it easy to expand.

[warm remnant]

what is pipe tee

[tranquil bolt]

Goto build menu, logistics, and look in the pipe section. Its orange and has 4 inlets/ outlets.

[warm remnant]

T junction?

[tranquil bolt]

Correct.

[warm remnant]

nwm other one

[kind kite]

well 6.666666 to be exact but yeah

[warm remnant]

other one has 4

[tranquil bolt]

It looks like a lowercase letter “t”

[warm remnant]

Then it has 3

[soft blade]

are we femboy roleplaying tonight

[prime basin]

what

[warm remnant]

i wonder if i should buy stacable pipe pole and put separate fluid buffer pumps

[reef basin]

you shouldn't really use fluid buffers

apart from train platform loading/unloading

[warm remnant]

its for head lifting

i mean like in real life thought it woudnt be needed here

[jagged nymph]

you mean the water tower effect? fluid buffers arent needed there

[reef basin]

yeah, don't use it for that

headlift is provided by pumps

[warm remnant]

i thought that i could be able to run all the generators

[reef basin]

don't need anything else

[warm remnant]

ye

[jagged nymph]

the only time you should use fluid buffers is for fluid trains and fluid trucks as a buffer

[warm remnant]

i now know why i had so little power on my previous playthroughjs xd

[kind kite]

bro i swear they always fuck up my fluids i just dont use them at all

[jagged nymph]

yep thats what they do

[kind kite]

can i send pics here?

[reef basin]

yeah, they are functionally equal to a pipe (just with big storage capacity), and since pipes like to be full, the buffer kinda wants to be filled before the setup is used, at which point the buffer loses purpose anyway

[reef basin]

depends what you want to post

if you have a question about something, use #1038092680493801533
if you have a math related query, #math-and-meta
if you want to talk about design, #design-and-architecture
if you want to share a pic of your base and have others look at it (without discussion), #screenshots
if you want to share fan art, #fan-art
for memes there's #satisfactory-memes
for non-meme offtopic things there's #off-topic-media

[random haven]

Do you guys have a centeral storage area or just have it scattered/stored wher eeach mat is early game lol

[reef basin]

depots

[prime basin]

does anyone know?

[ornate saffron]

Have automation lines specifically for pioneer use. they feed storage containers. When i unlock Dimensional depots i add them and they are filled from the storage containers

[ornate saffron]

fail to join

[prime basin]

damn

you should be able to have separate installs on steam

[peak wasp]

Hey folks, is it wise to start a new save, or is 1.2 around the corner?

[prime basin]

nah 1.2 probably wont be out for another few months

[ornate saffron]

1.2 is real buggy. itll be a while

[peak wasp]

I played it for a few days, bit choppy on my rig, sadly

[ornate saffron]

maybe setting up a sperate windows user would work>

just spit balling though

[prime basin]

maybe

[ornate saffron]

im doing it by having 1.1 installed on my desk top and 1.2 on my laptop.

I know others just own the game twice steam/epic

[prime basin]

same but im watching a show on my laptop rn and i kinda dont wanna switch

[peak wasp]

I wonder if we will get a curved road build gun one day

[ornate saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKn9f4Itqt4&t=7394

[sterile blade]

I wish I kept a copy of U8 😭

[ornate saffron]

thats the anser from CSS

[sterile blade]

Damn... I wonder if I'll be able to resist until the moment they get curved architecture out before starting my next project

[zenith pecan]

Not great memories with U8 for me.

[sterile blade]

BuT mAh SuShI!

[feral vector]

Hmm if I build foundation above this rock with gas clouds, will they block the gas or do I need to go real high to be out of the aoe?

[prime basin]

they dont block

im pretty sure

[feral vector]

Alright thanks

[zenith pecan]

BuT mAh CaNnOnWaY!

[prime basin]

at least they didn't in 1.0

[feral vector]

I doubt I'll actually build that far out but everyone says you will need tons of space so maybe I'll need to expand it that far

[zenith pecan]

Bombs work for poison clouds.

[real shale]

I wanna build my city more.....

[sterile blade]

What's stopping you?
Lack of ideas? ^^

[zenith pecan]

I'll get around to building my sporting goods factory when I get the sulphur to the battery factory.

[real shale]

Not being at my computer

Satisfactory mobile app when

[ornate saffron]

My weak flesh stops me. I need nap first

[sterile blade]

Can you get GeForce-now or something like that to work on mobile...?

[zenith pecan]

Though tbh, before I sort my sporting goods factory I should get uranium processing up.

[real shale]

When I saw the weakness of my flesh....it disgusted me

[ornate saffron]

We are just brains in meat and bone suits.

[steady dome]

This is quite philosophical

[peak wasp]

legend, ty

[cunning glade]

I miss my inf zoop

The fact that wasn't a 1.2 feature kinda upsetting

[leaden turret]

but now you can zoop signs 😛

[cunning glade]

Maybe next update with possibly curved building

[cunning glade]

As a person who doesn't use them idrc

Like ik u can use them for lights

But I haven't started doing that and decorating with them really

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media message

[cunning glade]

So neat prolly at some point but inf zoop or at least a 10x10 zoop

Would just be so nice

Ugh I gotta fix fsr4 too

[peak wasp]

is there an ingame function to measure pm coming from trains?

[cunning glade]

Stack size iirc

[normal orbit]

the freight terminals show it

[cunning glade]

Or like it says how many stacks are coming in a min no?

I haven't messed with trains for a few days

Started a new world so Frick if I remember ig

[hearty scroll]

Has anyone succeeded in using a world seed?

[full yoke]

Is there any place to report bugs that we find in the experimental branch?

[cunning glade]

Yes idk the command tho

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> shitposting potential re: 1.2 zoopable signs with this track

[cunning glade]

But the q and a site

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[leaden turret]

!qa

[cunning glade]

How do u do that

Okay ty

[peak wasp]

it just gives the item pm ty

[cunning glade]

1.2 is nice

Weather is cool

It would be cooler if it worked properly

[full yoke]

Gracias

[cunning glade]

Cuz extreme doesn't do anything

I turn on wet it rains right away

I play for 2 hours with extreme nothing

[full yoke]

It works for me? Also it's still experimental so makes sense

[cunning glade]

I can only get it too rain with the wet setting

Default hasn't and extreme hasn't

After playing for a good while maybe I'm super unlucky

[stuck canopy]

does mods disable steam achivements?

[cunning glade]

No

[forest tangle]

If I have 2 pipes, coming into a fluid buffer, and then out to refineries, what does that piping look like?

[cunning glade]

I've played for 2 hours on each atleast maybe more

[full yoke]

So far it only rained 2 times in my 7 hour playthrough with some friends

Its supposed to be rare

[cunning glade]

On extreme?

[full yoke]

Normal settings

[cunning glade]

Ah gotcha that's valid I dislike wet cuz it rains too much it feels like

I just want a thunderstorm

So bad that's all I want

[normal orbit]

keep in mind there is no rain the first five ingame days

[cunning glade]

Everytime u load or

When u first create the world

[normal orbit]

on load i believe

[cunning glade]

Hmm I see I'll lock in on extreme and play for 4 hours ig I'll report back

Really fucking with random nodes tbh

My main concern I see for future planning is trains

[prime basin]

hello

anyone can see this?

[reef basin]

no

[normal orbit]

no

[cunning glade]

No

[drowsy kelp]

Who said something

[prime basin]

noone...

[reef basin]

you asked about anyone, not noone

[prime basin]

no i was responding to this

[bronze vale]

I am just happy I can use Rails as Roadways now, and yes Vehicle paths can be built on top of rails and hug them like a glove

[leaden turret]

-# 🎶
-# Hear the stingers mew tonight
-# But hears only whispers of some quiet automation
-# Pioneer's comin' in, 12:30 flight
-# Her zipline things reflect the signs that guide me to efficiency

-# I stopped a CM along teh way
-# Hopin' to find some doggo lore words or cloaca answers
-# He turned to me as if to say
-# "Hurry, y'all need jesus do do dooo"

I would keep going rewriting the lyrics to Africa but then it'd just be a huge wall of text

[cunning glade]

Do u think u could make tools have a thing that imports a seed from random nodes and tells u how much of stuff is on the map

[reef basin]

no since we don't know how seed affects it

(well, the answer is: not at all)

[cunning glade]

Isn't the seed just a number that tells where the nodes need too be placed etc?

That was my understanding but fair enough

[normal orbit]

yes, seed would be which node is what

[prime basin]

am i insane

[normal orbit]

do trains phase thru the vehicles or yeet them?

[cunning glade]

That's what I figured I mean I feel like it's doable but it's also work prolly I wanna make something like that but have no coding experience and I really like the layout of the resource limits in tools would be cool if we could just import a seed at the top of it too change the default amounts

Tho I understand if tech be tech and it doesn't work like that

[prime basin]

crazy me?

[drowsy kelp]

Do you need something

[prime basin]

i think i might be going insane

[drowsy kelp]

Over what

[reef basin]

afaik seed is just rng, different settings give differerent maps with same seed

[real shale]

They phase through

[prime basin]

my wifi is working fine here, but anywhere else its really really slow

[normal orbit]

huh, intresting

[drowsy kelp]

How much did the fluid truck hold? 7500L?

[reef basin]

at least that's what patch notes said

[shut lava]

about 350

[drowsy kelp]

350?

[normal orbit]

3200000 litres

[drowsy kelp]

That’s the cubic meter capacity to liters

It’s a bit over the minimum capacity of an olympic swimming pool

[shut lava]

360 somthin

[tranquil bolt]

Do you guys automate porta miners or just make em as needed

[jagged nymph]

i handcratem

[stuck canopy]

made full inventory when accidentally left manual auto craft and went afk

[jagged nymph]

lol

[sudden anvil]

Once I get the parts going into dimensional depot, I just afk on manual crafting for a while

Then drop em in a storage unit connected to dd, and never think about it again

[jagged nymph]

i need to get some suhpheres for my deepot

[normal orbit]

i automate and upload cause why not, its no effort

[jagged nymph]

well its some effort

[normal orbit]

two constructors and an assembler on an iron node :p

and a depot to upload em

[warm remnant]

coal burners work non stop right?
i mean generators

[sturdy tartan]

yall this might seem like a stupid question, but do most blueprints for train rails have 2 on either side

[jagged nymph]

as long as you have a constant supply of coal and water ytes

[warm remnant]

kind of forgot didnt setup them since 1.0

[jagged nymph]

usually 2 rails total. one for one direction, one for the other

[next ivy]

1 rail each direction is usually enough

2 total

[sturdy tartan]

are they used for 2 seperate trains? or used to make 1 train be able to go backwards

by like loops

or u turn

[jagged nymph]

trains should always drive on the right side (or the left, just as long as you choose the same side across your world) its the same reason roads have 2 lanes

[next ivy]

its like a normal road
each side dedicated to a direction

[jagged nymph]

its especially important if you have multiple trains and junctions

[sturdy tartan]

i dont understand by always drive on one sidee

[jagged nymph]

if train drive on left, other train drive on right, they will hit eachother

[sturdy tartan]

whats the reason? do i have to make a ring across the map and use the left side for inner materials and other rail fir outside?

[jagged nymph]

?

[sturdy tartan]

ohh

nvm im reading too much into it lol

[sudden anvil]

As long as stations are not directly on the loop it works well. Each station breaks off from either direction, and joins back to either direction.

I stink at fitting that part in spaces cleanly

[real shale]

Do pioneers have health insurance