satisfactory

[swift turret]

cry

[real shale]

5 different ideas

[ornate saffron]

imma choose the responsilbe idea. and sleep. I dont wana but i should

[real shale]

That's a good idea Beefalo

I should sleep, you are so right

[ornate saffron]

stupid mental health

[keen flame]

i still have not slept and think i should play sf instead

[abstract girder]

#math-and-meta message

Could someone who understands game graphics or things like that please take a look?

[keen flame]

platforms

[sturdy tartan]

bruhh in 1.2 they making caterium qire from 500 per stack to 100

[keen flame]

that doesnt sound that bad

[sturdy tartan]

actually u right i forgot they added daisy chaining

i use a lot of wire for mk2 poles lol

[keen flame]

loll

[sturdy tartan]

does turbo fuel last longer or does it just make the jet pack more powerful compared to normal fuel

[crystal cedar]

Both i think

[sturdy tartan]

k

[bleak valley]

If you want maximum time liquid biofuel but turbo has the most power iirc

[sturdy tartan]

yeah fuel lowk too slow for vertical movement lol

[bleak valley]

Liquid biofuel is great but not able to be 100% automatic

I have an industrial storage full of it though just from clearing out space for factories

[warm finch]

quick question: how do I delete a belt I clipped into the ground enough that I can see the belt but cannot highight it using the dismantle function?

[bleak valley]

Would holding control for mass dismantle let it be selected

[warm finch]

let me check

[crystal cedar]

Try moving ur cursor to all the parts of the belt. at one point it'll highlight. If it doesn't then it's part of ur save

[warm finch]

nope. can't highlight it via any method. and it's blocking the lifts so I cant run a new belt

[crystal cedar]

Scim

[warm finch]

gross. ok, thanks. How do I select the right item(s) to delete in scim without deleting other stuff (layered)

[hearty copper]

#satisfactory-memes message
I wish Pioneers could build artilleries

[sterile bluff]

is anyone else having trouble with placing pipeline stuff? won't let me place just about anything while I'm setting up coal power

[warm finch]

make a thread in #1038092680493801533 including screenshots of the problem you're having

[keen flame]

conveyors can clip through most things without issues so do the water first

[minor elk]

My first hard drive of my 1.2 game...cast screws or iron wire, LMAO

did a random start so my starting area has a lot of iron...iron wire it is i think.

[sterile bluff]

mm that'd have been smart. i got conveyors hooked up to 64 coal generators rn 😔

[warm finch]

what pipes are you using? and what issue are you having?'

[keen flame]

that the hologram is red and they cant place it bc of collision

prolly

[sterile bluff]

basically floor connector just won't place and other parts are buggy in general

[warm finch]

are you on stable or experimental 1.2?

[keen flame]

idk what you need that many for but might as well redo it because that‘ll likely solve it right off the bat

[ornate frost]

gonna try to make my first hmf factory, aiming for 10/min, any recommended alts you guys use?

[sterile bluff]

stable im pretty sure just with a couple mods

[hearty copper]

Guys, may I ask rq?

[tribal sail]

yo should continue to play on 1.2 experimental or just keep my playthrough at 1.1

[hearty copper]

Should I transport steel ignots to my base, or make steel tubes and beams on place and transport them already?

[vernal walrus]

That’s all personal preference. Both are valid but one will leave more room at their destination if you make the constructors near the nodes.

[hearty copper]

Okay, then I'll choose the second one

Thank you!

Wow, I even can make encased industrial beam right on place

[narrow canyon]

The downside to that is needing more transportation due to multiple items vs just ingots

[west jackal]

i think i have about that many, its not that crazy

64 is a weird number, i have 80. much better number

[hearty copper]

Do I need... 90 steel beams per minute?

[dense violet]

depends if you're going ot use them ?

[hearty copper]

Or 45 is enough?

[hearty copper]

I can't decide how much I need, that's the point

Conditional encased industrial beam can require such amount

[dense violet]

the milestones are basically a tutorial - you cna't really plan ahead and you'll just waste time doing so

so just build stuff as you need and what seems fun

[hearty copper]

I can, I just struggle to find the most optimal way

[west jackal]

90 is a good ammount...

[dense violet]

roll a die
flip a coin

[hearty copper]

I have to calculate everything like it will be a five year plan

[hearty copper]

Okay

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=UlH724tLqtl76u7B4Woh

here, more like 5 seconds

[west jackal]

but it depends what you do with them. i ran through a couple ISC of beams building rails around the map

[hearty copper]

ISC?

[west jackal]

industrial container

[hearty copper]

Okay, thanks

So, for one assembler of EIB I need 24 steel beams per minute

Blyat

[vernal walrus]

One foundry takes care of that if I’m not mistaken?

Oh wait beams lol

My brain read ingots for some reason

[hearty copper]

Okay, got that information

I need 90/min steel beams for 30/min EIB

The question is, do I really need 30 encased industrial beams every minute...

[crystal cedar]

No. Except mk4 highways

[hearty copper]

Okay, thanks!

[cunning glade]

I gathered almost 300 pipes from hard drives let's pray I got enough

Cuz I think I may be like 3 short for slooping too be real

Also holy they need so much reanimated sam

[hearty copper]

To be honest, Satisfactory community is the calmest one, and the only that replies when it's really needed

I've never seen such

[past cloak]

I’m on PS5 and my friend is on PC he can’t join us and I can’t find the session ID pls help 😭

[swift turret]

you cant cross play

only xbox and PS can crossplay

[past cloak]

Brooo what a scam

[swift turret]

yes being able to play satisfactory is a scam oh the horror

[hearty copper]

What about Xbox gaming services on PC with Windows?

[swift turret]

Much to the dismay of some players, total cross-play is not available with Satisfactory. Players can play with those on opposite consoles, but they can’t play with folks on PC or vice versa.

[past cloak]

I did my research and it said the game is cross play I really enjoy the game it just sucks that this game is behind on cross play

[swift turret]

it took them until 1.2 for zoopable signs so I wouldnt expect it anytime soon

[ornate frost]

I'd imagine its not doable because of hardware reasons (plus mods/config file editing)

[swift turret]

probably

but they're a busy studio

[ornate frost]

the game not being pc/console crossplay is much better than the game not being on console at all imo

[cunning glade]

U can play offline right

It's saying session creation failure

Cool mine aswell blow my brains out too

[limpid cairn]

omg

i forgot

screws are so painful in this game

[feral vector]

welp I should have got this game sooner I'm already so addicted

[hearty copper]

Oh... I placed all my foundries backwards

[limpid cairn]

time to turn them around

[swift turret]

then done use them

[hearty copper]

Already in progress

[cunning glade]

Oh satisfactory is just stupid

[limpid cairn]

i have no other options

[cunning glade]

And doesn't automatically change it too single player when u lose wifi cool

[swift turret]

theres always options

[cunning glade]

Cuz why would it that would make sense

[limpid cairn]

not in my world

im playing slighty modded

[swift turret]

skill issue

[feral vector]

I'm about to unlock foundations, should I start using them right away? I know about snapping them to the world grid just not sure that's necessary with all my random early game stuff lol

[flat narwhal]

all factory machines should be placed on foundations imo

[minor elk]

The concrete cost is kinda steep to do it early, but I usually bite the bullet anyway

[cunning glade]

I don't build machines till I have foundations

[feral vector]

lol you just use the crafting bench or what that sounds kinda rough

[cunning glade]

Well normally I play with a friend and do tier 0

So most of my t0 is limestone by the end I aim for about 2-3stacks

Plus some plates

[feral vector]

hmm gotcha

I'm ok to use 1m foundations?

[cunning glade]

Then first thing I get is foundations and the rest

[cunning glade]

I mean generally I use 4m

Cuz I tend too use thoose as legs

And I'll raise it off the ground by 4 too 8m

Maybe more

But lets u expand the platform if u need more space easier

And then u could use 1m after but I find 4m look better with them

But u can use whatever u want

[willow pond]

someone send me a keg of something, i'm currently working on completely clearing out all the plants from the swamp. all of it

[cunning glade]

That's what I do

[cunning glade]

Bombs

[willow pond]

oh no, biofuel

[cunning glade]

Wym

Like u need them for biofuel?

[willow pond]

i'm chainsawing it all intentionally

[cunning glade]

Oh I feel like there's better spots

But I don't go too the swamp that often

[willow pond]

oh i'm doing the whole map

[cunning glade]

Why?

[willow pond]

red forest is cleared

just because

[feral vector]

alright I'll mess around and see what seems good

[willow pond]

i got bored doing normal progress for like the 15th time

[feral vector]

chainsaw asap from t2 seems smart 🤔

I'm already worried about burning too much fuel lol I went kinda ham automating screws and copper wires so far

[peak wasp]

How do you turn off the judgement notifications?

[willow pond]

i got to t6, set up 600 big containers in the middle of the map to collect everything at

[knotty smelt]

Anyone know what's going on with the production calculator website? Im needing it to build my factory but its been saying DDOS ongoing

[dense violet]

just down. You could ask in their discord

[knotty smelt]

Ah ok

[dense violet]

also, an alternative that isn't down https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[knotty smelt]

I tried using that one but i cant make any sense of how to use it😭

[dense violet]

what was the issue you were running into ? it's fairly straight forward

[willow pond]

plus idk if anyone's ever actually done a full manual map clearing. and it's kinda therapeutic

[lean whale]

Is the production planner down for anyone else?

[dense violet]

a production planner is down? there are many others

[knotty smelt]

I input the item i want to produce but it cant calculate the result

[dense violet]

turbo fuel?

[knotty smelt]

Plutonium fuel rods

[dense violet]

you need to input the waste in the input tab

[knotty smelt]

Well thats annoying, idk how much im going to produce, im fiddling with alternate recipes😭

[dense violet]

if you know how many uranium rods you're producing you know your waste

so figure that out first

[knotty bear]

Where should I make stuff for high-speed connector?

[dense violet]

choose your recipes for it, plug it into a planner, look on the map, look at what matches your needs

there's no one spot to build things in the game

[dense violet]

you could also just slap in 10000000 waste pm and see what you want to do with it

[knotty bear]

Calculator seems to be down.

[dense violet]

seems to be working https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=EKVUiwxbhrToracapv7e

[random haven]

uwu. Might not be much, but just got the crap for the space elevator.

[knotty bear]

I was using satisfactorycalculator.com

[dense violet]

sure, I was showing you an alternative. and imo one with a much better ui

[random haven]

I assume I wont be able to deal with those gas rocks right now? lol

[knotty bear]

It is, thanks

[summer coral]

stupid liquid based project #63, transporting 2800 fuel a minute elsewhere using fuel train cars to then package the fuel instead of transporting the packaging to the fuel :D

yea i need help figuring out the train throughput :(

[dense violet]

are you just burning the fuel?

[summer coral]

no i was going to use it for trucks to bring resources into my next factory

[hearty copper]

So, overall I've gotten this
#screenshots message

[dense violet]

probably just package it on site

[feral vector]

no reason not to use solid biofuel over biomass once I unlock it right

[dense violet]

and start with 1 belt per platform

[feral vector]

I am too sleep deprived to learn a new game today but I can't stop playing lol

[summer coral]

always here with the boring solutions that i already thought about but didnt want to do :(

[dense violet]

ok do 1 pipe per platform, go from there. You might need 2 trains doing the path

[summer coral]

2? on the same path?

[dense violet]

sure? evenly fill the platforms, wait until full.

[summer coral]

gonna hit 400 hours on the world if i try to do that 😨

ykw your first idea was better

imma do that

[dense violet]

I don't see why adding a 2nd train to the same route would add time. You just build anotehr train

[summer coral]

signaling is terrifying

[dense violet]

the 2nd train would use the same signaling

just use block signals like every 10 foundations

[prisma bridge]

the randomizer mode is so fun

[cunning lily]

Reading the Wiki entries for the Tractor and Truck, they comment on janky driving behavior, for lack of better terms... this was true in the past, but, does that hold up in 1.2 experimental?

[warped whale]

My net went out and I figured 'who cares? I got a single player factory to build anyway!' Then immediately got hit with an offline error when starting. Is it possible to play offline?

[dense violet]

they're fine? just another thing to learn
1.2 has completely revamped their pathing system though you might enjoy them more on exp

[dense violet]

generally all that playing online does is spawn a different character for you

[bleak valley]

I had the same issue I just spammed continue in the menu and it let me through eventually

[warped whale]

The brute force method. I shall try

[jade parcel]

Is it only me or for some other too 1 think they allready preparing the map for expand it

[dense violet]

it's you

[warped whale]

Brute force has failed. Session creation failure. Advanced info: offline.

Let me iiiiiiin!

All I wanted was to play this tonight!

[scenic timber]

Am torn... really want to try out 1.2, but not sure if I can live without QoL mods like Infinite Zoop and Curve Builder...

[peak wasp]

is there a mod to make roads/train tracks curve?

[scenic timber]

Train tracks already curve? The Curve Builder mod is for making foundations/buildables curve.

[prisma bridge]

i just tried crouching on a foundation to not fall off

[random haven]

I assume ill be using the space elevator once I get to phase 3(?) or was it 4? I just logged out and too lazy to check lol

[green fiber]

The soace elevator is used once each phase

[west jackal]

if you want to use 2 train engines, do you need 2 train stations at each point?

and can you do 1 engine in back, 1 engine in front?

[normal orbit]

no and yes

[west jackal]

so i can just tack a engine on the back to help with hills?

[normal orbit]

yes

[west jackal]

i thought i angled it right... but when it has 4 cars it slows down

which is okay most of the time, but i have a couple big ramps

[normal orbit]

but make sure the stations is long enough, or the ass end of the train might poke out and block other trains

theres no slowdown on 4 cars

unless you have ramps steeper than 2m

[west jackal]

they may be steeper than 2m

i thought i made them 2m, but they are custom angles, so i guess they are, bc it was slowing down

[tranquil hemlock]

When building along a ceiling and looking up for ages, does anyone else feel a strain in their neck from "looking up" up so much?

[vocal girder]

You dont have to look up physically mate, just moving the mouse will do

[sturdy tartan]

guys, im looking at some older vids to learn abt trains, and i see them using blueprint pillars that pretty much act like bigger railways or conveyors

when i try it, its really finnicky and the distance is like 2 foundations, is this bc of an update or glitch?

[cursive crane]

Wdym by the "distance"?

[sturdy tartan]

like i use the auto connect feature, but instead of my blueprint acting like a conveyor, it make me seperatly place them and try to either auto connect them or do it manually

im bad at explaining ill try to find a vid on it

[cursive crane]

Yea if you can record whats happening to you and post the video you are trying to copy and put em both in #streams-and-videos we can look there

[sturdy tartan]

im gonna send a clip of a tt on what im talking about

like how the blueprint is acting like a conveyor

its only a couple seconds long since i couldnt find anything else

anyway, instead of acting like that, it literally make me place the pillar seperately

like its a whole different building, instead of it being an extrnsion

[sturdy tartan]

can i have a reply i lowk have no other way of getting this info 😭

[west jackal]

im guessing you dont have the conveyors on both ends of the conveyors, if you dont, autoconnect wont work

[normal orbit]

dont nudge, click once to connect em then move mouse to where you want it, click again to build

[livid matrix]

How do I unlock alt recipes?

[normal orbit]

chuck a harddrive into the mam and pray to the rng gods

[cursive crane]

Yea now what are you doing?
Should just be able to build a blueprint with rails on it, then press [r?] To toggle autoconnect

[thick prairie]

Hello all,
Do we know if there's going to be keyboard + mouse support for consoles with 1.2 update?

[cursive crane]

All the information on updates can be found either in #announcements or #patch-notes

As far as I've seen there hasnt been anything said about it

[thick prairie]

Okey, thanks

[west jackal]

i have layed over 50km of train tracks, and aparently 60KM of belts LOL

[austere marlin]

hey guys, lets say i'm using satisfactory tools to plan my motor production
I input 720 iron ore/min since this is what my nodes give me
But then I have a problem : if i want to balance production i need to transform them into 162.487 into screw + 129.99 into rods and so on
With the decimals I don't really see a way to balance it

Any tip for me ? Or I just merge everything and manifold it hoping for the best

I just realised i can hover any step and it tells me how to lmao

but for the belt repartition it's still a problem i guess

unless every machine will get full eventually ? aaa

[reef basin]

manifold

or group machines, have one group making 162.487 and the other one 129.99

or pick better numbers - no need to limit yourself to how much you have, rather pick how much you want to make and work backwards

[austere marlin]

But i'm limited to my nodes / belt speed any 🙁

[austere marlin]

i guess manifold it is then

[reef basin]

but you're not required to use the node fully, or to only use the nodes you have nearby

you can get more nodes, or underclock to use less iron

[austere marlin]

Yes I guess i could do that, I just wanted to do the most out of the nearby nodes

[dense violet]

you still can and manifold it, just clock your machines properly

[reef basin]

not really any reason to max nodes, especially if it gives you these numbers

[austere marlin]

Makes sense too

[dense violet]

clocking is the bread and butter of logistic management in this game , it solves almost all your problems before they come to exist

[hard ivy]

Could also use a different recipe chain that is less decimal-y if that bothers you
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4kVR5DSS1O3AEQy5dZZe

[austere marlin]

Thanks for the advices !

[keen flame]

good morning chat!!

[dense violet]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-how-dare-you-dont-speak-to-me-how-dare-you-speak-to-me-gif-17332672

[chrome bear]

best way to get tickets early game?

[reef basin]

awesome sink

[hard ivy]

Sinking uranium or SAM

[dense violet]

whatever excess overflows from your storage

[keen flame]

what)

[dense violet]

a joke gif

[keen flame]

yea no i clicked on it

what’s the funny part

[dense violet]

dw bout it

[chrome bear]

how do you not get it

[keen flame]

i didnt sleep well enough

and js woke up

well then go on

[chrome bear]

it's not really a joke it's just a poke at how you said something friendly and inviting while @dense violet said something of the opposite being rude and uninviting but they didn't mean it seriously

I didn't want to explain that so I was gonna say nah it was just jokes I'm messing with you but like I feel like that would've been mean

[gloomy tusk]

I get that one

[tough dock]

can machines explode?

[prime basin]

sadly not :(

[leaden turret]

you can throw as many as you want at them to fake exploding machines

[prime basin]

true

[green crypt]

hi, i have a question, if i start a new run on 1.2 experimental, i'll be able to continue it when 1.2 releases right?

[leaden turret]

yes

[green crypt]

ok thx

[sturdy tartan]

how do yall generally organize the wires and power poles out side yalls factory? i usually just have a bunch of them all over thr place and connec tthe nearest one to a factory that needs powrr

[normal orbit]

hiding them as much as possible

[sturdy tartan]

like under buildings or roads?

[crystal cedar]

This guy the only person who read dontasktoaak or smsh. Nc etiquette

[jagged nymph]

fr

[leaden turret]

you can't see them in this screenshot, but there's a pole on each floor, with a railed-off hole in front of the stairs that the pole is next to, with the power running down to the bottom floor, where both sides connect to one pole that's fed by the power tower you can see in the bottom #screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

i dont get why people just say stuff like "i have a question" or "can someone help me" like that doesnt accomplish anything lol

unless theyre saying something like "where can i ask a question here?"

[normal orbit]

#math-and-meta message usually make some frame or decoration i use to hide the cables and power nodes. #design-and-architecture message

[leaden turret]

but what if you have a DC animated show poster signed by jeffrey combs?

[jagged nymph]

huh

[jagged nymph]

i dont, i hav spaghetti of poles everywhere, if i had to shut off a factory i wouldnt know how

[leaden turret]

Question being a character voiced by jeffrey combs

so you could legit say "I have a question"

-# I don't, I just being faectious

[jagged nymph]

😭

[sturdy tartan]

i be asking questions in this channel, math and meta and the design and architecture

usually whichever is most active 😭

[green crypt]

i'm not english native, so i don't even know if what Theaverage said is either good or bad

[jagged nymph]

its better to ask in #1038092680493801533 a lot of people monitor it and youll get better answers there

[leaden turret]

serious answer is people be shy and polite

[jagged nymph]

its good, you asked a question properly

theres a website called dontasktoask.com

[leaden turret]

there's also a website called grizzly milk.

or rather there was.

[jagged nymph]

it basically explains how to ask a question correctly instead of just saying "i have a question" and hes referencing it to say that you asked your question properly

[green crypt]

ah ok, thx

didn't know what he was saying to me

[jagged nymph]

imma check out waybackmachine

[leaden turret]

if I'm new to a community and a channel isn't active, I would generally opt for "is anyone awake that can help me with [x]"

[jagged nymph]

yeah, but thats still specifying, atleast generally what your issue is

[tall lantern]

the important bit there's still the [x] yeah

"can anyone help?" no idea since we don't know what the problem is
"can anyone help with [x]", now we have enough info to know

[leaden turret]

👁️ 👃👁️
-# can anyone help
⬛👉👈

[normal orbit]

psh, its not like i wanna ask a question or anything.

[sturdy tartan]

yeah but i usually have short answer questions that i feel like is too much work to make a post for

questions n help is for higger help questions, no?

[jagged nymph]

i mean not necessarily

[tall lantern]

it's fine for either

[jagged nymph]

but if you do have like a yes or no question its probably fine

[tall lantern]

it's more that long-form stuff shouldn't be in here, not that short-form stuff can't go in there

[leaden turret]

also to collect for asking for new emotes in one place (I got permission 😛 ) https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1449014435174940693

[crystal cedar]

Good

[real shale]

[cursive crane]

Ive started making a mapwide power infrastructure with zones for all my factories

Its a nightmare if you do it later, having a general way of keeping them organized from the beginning is definetely much better way to go.

Saying that, wall power connectors save the ugly pole looks
Other than that, if you go to scim, or even just kinda plan with the in game map, you can make branches on the map, start with the power towers, and connect those to production areas.

It takes a LOT of planning/sticking to your chosen method of staying organized, and in general isnt really worth it unless you are going for a specific aesthetic, you could afterall just put em down anywhere and connect at will lol

[twin parcel]

uh guys how trucks pathing work again?

[cursive crane]

Usually ill make sure there are power tower zipline routes between all the major factories at the very least.

[cursive crane]

In exp or 1.1

[leaden turret]

works like rails in 1.2

[twin parcel]

exp 1.2

[leaden turret]

they said in the stream that existing paths would be non-editable

[obsidian iron]

guys

how to not have spagetti factory

[leaden turret]

have lasagn factory https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=lasagn

[hard ivy]

Put in some effort

[tall lantern]

main advice'd be to give yourself space, easier to make things look nicer if you're not squished in. And foundations are a given obviously

[sour jewel]

Underground logistics are a good way to avoid that
Also it looks stunning which glass foundations and light signs

[obsidian iron]

can someone help me redesign

[tall lantern]

#design-and-architecture may be better

or if you mean literally, #1201555265942724758 lol

[real shale]

thank god they didnt say non-edible or i might have starved

[obsidian iron]

lol thx

[real shale]

Damn, Leo's been playing for 226 days in a row, commitment

[sour jewel]

While I'm still here, I also have a question
It's simple, and absolutely unoriginal, but is it still possible to earn the golden cup?
I'm having a hard time finding a suitable answer, between posts which are one to three years old and strange people mumbling cryptic stuff about some holy golden nut (probably a religious artifact of some sort, who am I to judge)

[jaunty jewel]

yeah

i cant remember how i just know it exists

[real shale]

have to complete phase 5 to get it

[jaunty jewel]

makes sense

[real shale]

both it and the golden factory cart become available post phase 5

[sour jewel]

Okay I see
I was worried it was exclusive to people who had completed Project Assembly during early access

Thank you very much factory folks, have a nice day!

[real shale]

no, the only early access stuff was the golden helmet, golden nut trinket and golden build gun

[jaunty jewel]

i somehow have them even though i didnt play early access

[sour jewel]

Isn't the golden helmet bugued? Everyone seem to have it in their locker

[real shale]

i don't actually know, I know from other CSS games they tend to be adverse to FOMO of any sorts

so its highly likely they just made available to everyone

[sour jewel]

In any case, RGB build gun is the way

[static brook]

hi is there a place i can report a hole in the map that lets you get under the map? randomly found it jumping around

[leaden turret]

!qasite

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[static brook]

dope ty

[leaden turret]

I dunno why I can't remember that it's !qa

[sour jewel]

I see
It would have made sense to make it available after phase 5 just like the golden cup in order to still make it rewarding to get
But at least no-one gets frustrated

[real shale]

i hate captchas man

especially the ones that make you do like 5 of them only to go "lol you didnt do it right"

[jaunty jewel]

its gotten to the point where i actually struggle with them

[jagged nymph]

I JUST REALIZED YOU CAN CHANGE THE BUILD MODE ON CONVEYOR LIFTS TO PLACE THEM REVERSED ARE YOU KIDDING ME

SO MANY TIMES I BUILD A BELT FACING THE DIRECTION I NEed THE LIFT TO GO AND PLACED IT OFF OF THAT

[real shale]

how long have you been playing

[jagged nymph]

400 hours

[twin parcel]

so any if there is any truck in coloured segment, the 2nd truck will not enter?

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg you can ask for refund I think it is justified at this point kek bur lol bbq

[jagged nymph]

what are you on about 😭

[twin parcel]

always explore all the buttons mate

[jagged nymph]

anyone know of any other building specific placement things???

[sterile blade]

Taking a peek at the keybinds can be useful too... Unfortunately, not all commands make it to in-game tips...

[jagged nymph]

i know all the keybinds

i just didnt know you could place lifts reversed

[sterile blade]

There's quite a few "X building tricks you didn't know about" videos in YouTube

[jagged nymph]

yeah i love building trucks

[leaden turret]

🤷‍♂️

[real shale]

yes

[green fiber]

Do you mean intersections ?

Because on the normal paths, trucks keep some distance between each other

No matter how long or short the "segment" is

In intersections i believe its standard rules of "only one allowed inside"

[green crypt]

hi again guys, what's ur fav location to start a new run? i'm planning on start the 1.2 run in dessert cause it's huge and plain, but don't know if it'll be worth it due to the lack of biomass and diversity on nodes

[jagged nymph]

actually in the dune dessert there is a section of it on the west with tons of biomass and a river for coal power water

but i like rocky desert

or northern forest

[tall lantern]

grassy fields for the lulz

[cursive crane]

Yea not entirely true, and its really only a few minutes in any direction from any biome to get things that it may not have

At the end of the day, all that really matters is the environment you prefer.
Its all one big map afterall, you arent stuck to any one area.

Saying that, either grassy or desert for the best build areas.

[green crypt]

so it isn't like trains, where only one train can be in a segment at a time?

[tall lantern]

it doesn't really matter all that much since you'll be expanding out of your starting area quickly enough

[green crypt]

yeah i started my 1.0 run there, and i want something different this time

[green fiber]

Quite similar to block signal blocks, yes

[cursive crane]

It sounds like you want us to convince you to start somewhere you havent tried. Just try it out and see how it goes, games not going anywhere, hell, make a save for each one. lol

[jagged nymph]

northern forest has an area right by spawn with 4 pure iron, 2 pure copper, and 2 pure limestone, with everything you need early close by. It also has the crater lakes pretty close which has 3 pure coal that i normally use for coal power. Not too far away theres a section with 6 pure iron nodes right next to eachother

and not super far away theres a good place for steel with iron and coal and limestone

[green crypt]

just wanted to know if dune dessert is a good area and if there is some other good areas that u prefer

[cursive crane]

Dunes is a solid pick, but they all are in their own ways

[jagged nymph]

all of them are a good area, it jsut depends on what you like

[iron fractal]

with the new vehicle pathing system is there a way to force them to pause and wait for set amount of time, like we could do before?

[fallen orbit]

What are the chances that someday ships will be in satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

make them go in a loop

[jagged nymph]

very very close to 0 because theres no seas for them to transport across

[mortal ginkgo]

at the moment no, there are some complains so maybe it comes back

[iron fractal]

K thanks. I am joining the complainers then 🙂

[fallen orbit]

Well that's a reason but I think they also added changing seeds and stuff in 1.2 experimental? So maybe in future if the map has more water that is I mean sea yeah

[jagged nymph]

no the seeds are to randomize nodes

[fallen orbit]

Oh alr

[jagged nymph]

i highly doubt we will ever get a new map, and definitely not one large enough to need ships

[fallen orbit]

Hmm your right although one can dream

The randomised nodes is good ngl
When I start playing satisfactory again I'll probably use it

[iron fractal]

maybe modders will create something 🙂

[twin parcel]

yes

[proud raptor]

I am really hoping for some pioneer equipment & weapon upgrades. Going through some of the later game areas like bamboo forest and swamp is a bit of a slog with how many bullets things take to kill

[twin parcel]

welp that sucks , i cant arrange truck station in series , only in parallel

[bright echo]

Hey I have a question to the devs. Since you merged the versions of PS5 and PC is crossplay still on the table? My brother and his fiance are playing on console and me and friends on PC.

[dense violet]

skip the fights with the jet pack, only kill things whne they are sitting on things you need

[tall lantern]

this wouldn't really change the odds (which are still very low)

[cursive crane]

Not for the near future [very least a year or two]

Tldr, would require a complete rework of their backend, would take an extensive amount of work, iirc the comparison he makes is it would take an entire patch cycle, which would set back actual content, which at this point is bare minimum 6 months to a year or so lol
https://youtu.be/XtLumwvoXls?si=JvaAwmLUhzuhfREZ

[proud raptor]

Yep

[jade parcel]

I hope they will expand the map more like underwaterzones underwater resscources like salt gas sand for transport submarines boats

Snow biom where you need to heat your rails for the train snd the produktion lines

[tall lantern]

wouldn't count on it, but dreams are nice

[real shale]

i have embraced verticality

[jagged nymph]

i wamna see

[ornate saffron]

Its impressive erect structure.

[real shale]

#screenshots message grassy fields city in progress

soon without the grassy part

[jagged nymph]

looks nice, i like the "framework" look

[real shale]

this new modular frame factory rebuild will be about uhhh

7 floors high

[jagged nymph]

how many

per minute

[real shale]

31/min up from 6

[jagged nymph]

heavy or normal

[real shale]

normal, heavy would be a lot more

[jagged nymph]

oh

im gonna be doing 80 but i dont have nearly enough power yet

[real shale]

idk what i was doing originally, with 2 impure nodes i somehow made 6/min and thought "yeah thats good"

[wispy frost]

how do i even make the train station unload stuff

[ornate saffron]

It is in many cases. But im guessing if you are making 31 you are not using them in that building

[ornate saffron]

Click on the plate form you want to unload and hit the switch at the bottom that says load/unload its a toggle

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message

so far im automating
steel beams
steel pipes
encased beams
concrete
iron ingots (next im gonna turn some of those ingots in rip and modular frames)

[crystal cedar]

I mean... that's what I did. Soo its not enough? Shud I change it?

[wispy frost]

i have a freight station, connected to a train station which has power, and then on the input of the freight station i have coal going in but its not going into the freight platfrom inventory

[real shale]

probably not, im only doing it because i am obsessed with optimisation

[keen flame]

GOD tractors are so ass

[ornate saffron]

Depends on goals and playstyle.

You can just make more in other places when you need them ad you need them

[keen flame]

i'm getting ragebaited by my tractors

[crystal cedar]

:D I put em in ze onedrive

[wispy frost]

the load unlaod does nothing

idk why

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with photos.

[crystal cedar]

Er. I don't have a specific "style" i just play

Whatever throughput is the bare minimum and is still 100% efficient ig

[ornate saffron]

I like Independency each facility supplies itself

Nermojer is likely going to supply multiple factories with those 30 frames a minutes.

[dense violet]

git gud with your spelling 😛

❤️

[crystal cedar]

I've heard of that term multiple times before( #math-and-meta )

[dense violet]

you can make any throughput enough for 100% machine up time if that's your goal?

just have to design around it

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch Independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Independency

[real shale]

most of the advice ive been given about logistics management ive ignored in favour of my own methods, and so far its worked so

I rebuild factories
I have factories depend on other factories except for power plants
and i CONSUME

[ornate saffron]

Nothing wrong with that

[ornate saffron]

In the end you play the way you find fun. Doesn't matter if others feel its right

[tall lantern]

advice is just that, advice

[crystal cedar]

Er yes something like that my main goal goes something. Like 2 100% default oc machines for midgamw and one 100% default pc for late game

[crystal cedar]

Yes very I have about 680h

[dense violet]

that's faiiir? if you want everything running at 100% though you probably want to plan from the end point backwards with fresh factories

[twin parcel]

can the truck move in reverse?

for pathing exp 1.2

[crystal cedar]

No idts

[twin parcel]

that sucks , the 1.1 autopilot allow reverse movements

[crystal cedar]

It also allowed weird anomalies

Like possessed trucks

[twin parcel]

i loved it , whats more fun than supernatural elements ? jk

[ornate saffron]

You can always turn off auto update and stay in 1.1 ^-^

[twin parcel]

i was joking mate

[fickle wraith]

can i use one drone station for multiple drones

[plain marten]

how do i illuminate a room

[jagged nymph]

lights

or signs

[plain marten]

doesnt work

[jagged nymph]

yes it does

thats what most people do

[plain marten]

#screenshots message

[spice patio]

Signs only light things with Global Illumination (Lumen) enabled.

[plain marten]

i turned it on and nothing changed

[spice patio]

Are you on experimental?

Or stable?

[jagged nymph]

oh do they?

[plain marten]

maybe i have to restart

[spice patio]

Did you apply and restart the game after that change?

[ornate saffron]

mee too

[plain marten]

yay its much better now

now i can keep building my metro station

[stiff knoll]

I have an issue with my mouse. in the game the mouse speed is fast, but in the menu its slow

ive messed with the settings in game and out and can't seem to get them both in sync

yet could be my mouse it has presets, I think ill have to see if there is a way to mess with the settings on the mouse itself

[plain marten]

why does saving colors not work

when i load a color i get a completely different color

[keen flame]

if the other conveyor(s) is full to the brim in a conveyor splitter, will the empty one get the others' load?

[ornate saffron]

i don't have a answer, Have you searched #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

a splitter will try to split as evenly as it can between belts

[keen flame]

i sure as hope so because i don't wanna put zibillion mergers and splitters together to get some ratio like 194/529

[jagged nymph]

yes, that is the basis of how manifolds work

[keen flame]

manifold?!?!?

[jagged nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUbNdBT3zPo

[dense violet]

this is a manifold, it evenly feeds 120 ore pm to these 4 smelters #math-and-meta message

[ornate saffron]

usually a line of machines fed by a belt and splitters infront of each machine. the first splitter send half (provided all belts speeds are the same) to the first machine and the rest down the line.

Once the first machine fills it will only take what it needs when it needs it and the remaining parts go down the line to the next splitter and the process repeats

[jagged nymph]

remember though that it ta kes a while before it starts working at full speed, as the video i linked shows

[plain marten]

bruh why cant i remove a color preset at all

[ornate saffron]

why is everyone names turning Maroon?

[real shale]

oh look at A350 and their fancy colour

[jagged nymph]

server boost

[keen flame]

i like the color

[real shale]

i like you

[keen flame]

thanks

[keen flame]

😳

[keen flame]

the reason i reacted like that was bc i was thinking it's the manifold from math

and trying to see the connection

lol

[frail valley]

hello ! new to satisfactory. the bottom right of the map east of the first starting point seems to have coal and sulfur next to water. does building a coal plant with compacted coal there makes sense ?

[keen flame]

the hell you mean ew

[ornate saffron]

it can

[frail valley]

how much mw of power should i aim for for starters ?

[dense violet]

uuuhhhh , if you're at coal I generally recommend finding 4 coal nodes next to water, makign 32 gens, then 64 gens with mk3 belts

[ornate saffron]

im in the second half of the game and im generating 30gw with normal fuel using 14gw

it really depends on power needs. I usually just use one oil node at a time

I generally dont use compacted coal for coal generators

[real shale]

at a cozy 180 GW right now, even though i have 68 GW of power boost right now lol

[ornate saffron]

im at no boost atm. will be if i need more power before i build nuclear

[keen flame]

what do u guys need that much power for even

[jagged nymph]

machines

[keen flame]

ah ok thanks

[jagged nymph]

alot of people use 100s of gigawatts of power, close to 1tw even

[real shale]

oh wow, i can see paths from pretty far away, i saw like a purple neon light across the map and i was like "wtf is that"

[ornate saffron]

some machines late game use a GW of power.

but generally we just build more then needed

[jagged nymph]

lmao

[jagged nymph]

and a max oc and slooped quantum encoder uses ||26gw ||lmaoo

[jagged nymph]

you edited your message just to make the grammar incorrect? it was right before

[ornate saffron]

yes sir, But at that point we have everything we need so i find no reason to do that to myself lol

[keen flame]

lmao based

[ornate saffron]

Im trying to be more specific. Some community members dont speak English and put all this through google translate. English is a context based language, others are not. I am hoping this makes it easier for people.

[keen flame]

well i am indeed not a native speaker but i speak english better than my native language :3

[jagged nymph]

it said "some machines lategame use a GW of power"
and changed to "some machines late game machines use a GW of power. "

[keen flame]

in fact my thoughts are in english

they've been for yrs

[ornate saffron]

English is my native language. I am horrid with it lol

[tall lantern]

if we're picking on typos, also then should be than in that message

[ornate saffron]

Trying and succeeding are diffrent things lol

[jagged nymph]

no im saying the original message was correct, he changed it to be incorrect

[keen flame]

i think that can just be interpreted as what would otherwise be separated with commas

[frail valley]

can't post links yet , but there is a lake next to 3 sulfur and 4 coal at the bottom right corner of the map . havn't done the math yet but compacted coal is 630 KW per minute and normal coal is 300 KW per minute. seems more effective but i need to do the math where it takes down the cost of constructing a smallcompavted coal plant nest to a coal power plant . or is that too much of a hassle ?

[jagged nymph]

nobody can send links

except to a few specific websites

[frail valley]

so you can't post pics

[ornate saffron]

generally speaking people just make a regular coal plant as the next power step fuel is not far and gives you greater gains. But yes you can make much coal power there

[jagged nymph]

in #screenshots you can

[dense violet]

compacted coal... is a thing?
honestly the recipe for compacted coal to be used as fuel effectively just turns the sulfur node into a coal node.

I'd just go find more coal nodes elsewhere

[tall lantern]

but if you're asking a question, #1038092680493801533 is the place to add images

[dense violet]

that you don't have to first process

[frail valley]

posted the point on the map in screenshots

ah ok , srry

[dense violet]

yeah, I'm aware of the location, but... yeah jsut go find more coal somewhere, you can get to tier 7 on 4 nodes of it pretty easily

[real shale]

okay, modular frame tower is now up and running (i think)

[keen flame]

i kinda started automating too late

most of the early game i spent running around manually mining and crafting things

for like a good 20 hrs

[real shale]

i wish elevators could clip through beams

[jagged nymph]

bro started automating late in a game where the entire point is to automate stuff

[keen flame]

yup

i was aware of that but at the start i was thinking it'd be faster to progress if i did stuff by hand

where you'd have 3-6 machines normally

[jagged nymph]

or like 50

[keen flame]

yes if you start the save knowing what you're doing

[jagged nymph]

i mean my first save was terrible

[keen flame]

yup and this is my first save

[jagged nymph]

the most automation i did was putting a miner on a node with a belt coming out and spamming e to grab the ore off the end of it and hand crafting

although i blame it on my friend who taught me the game like that

[dense violet]

just start automating the basics then 🙂 if you dedicated like 1 node to each basic part and squish them together you'll get a good output going

[keen flame]

the fucking tractors are the only thing i struggled with (kinda) so far

why is their ai SO bad

[jagged nymph]

its 100x better on 1.2 experimental

[keen flame]

like i did NOT drive there when i was making the path

i keep having to go rescue them

or reroute them

[jagged nymph]

it just sets down a node about every second as you drive and the ai just drives to one node, then drives to the next, and so on

[dense violet]

mostly just takes practice knowing how to lay them out

[jagged nymph]

but it figures out how to get to the node on its own

[dense violet]

you need to take turns slowly too

[keen flame]

yeah i know im talking abt how bad the ai is when it comes to saving the tractor from a bad situation

[real shale]

oh i found my old boombox LOL

[keen flame]

mine is just sitting in the hub

[real shale]

i lost one like a few months ago

[jagged nymph]

my friend lowk duped like 10000 tickets on my save even though i told him not to

[real shale]

because i middle mouse clicked by accident and hadnt realised until it was too late

[jagged nymph]

where was it

[keen flame]

oof

[ornate saffron]

This just means you don't have the urge to tare down all your old factories to make better ones.

Never to late to start automation

[keen flame]

i mean.................

[keen flame]

#screenshots that's still sitting there 😭

[ornate saffron]

As it should be

[ornate saffron]

My filth is still there too

#design-and-architecture message

[keen flame]

it doesnt particularly bother me, it actually is useful even because every end product is stored so it allows me to accumulate some amount of each material

whereas other parts of my factory just make what's needed on the spot

[keen flame]

that looks good..

[ornate saffron]

This is the way

[real shale]

#screenshots message progress check on project grassy fields rebuild

[keen flame]

much better than mine

[ornate saffron]

Naw just placed quick for need. As phase one is a means to get myself off the ground

[keen flame]

im gna show u my whole starter factory wait

[ornate saffron]

I finished the platform for my alum factory last night

[keen flame]

it looks good i dont even know what changed since last time..

[real shale]

i'll show you

[keen flame]

i cant send more than1 image?????

wtf whered the other go

[real shale]

#screenshots message RHS is pretty much what it looked like before

[drowsy verge]

Greetings, mortals.

[keen flame]

yes, this is what i saw

[keen flame]

hello there mortal

[ornate saffron]

Go bother .....SOMEONEELSE

🤣

[ornate saffron]

@ornate saffron morning

[keen flame]

did you um

take your pills this morning usbeefalo

i get that its better for playing satisfactory but,..

[ornate saffron]

I did thank you. Head much better.

I just need to stop passing out on the couch and stick to my schedule.

[leaden turret]

as noted by @ornate saffron , new emotes just dropped

[jagged nymph]

ada

no ada autoreact

[drowsy verge]

Guys I uhh I did a booboo
I got stuck under the landing pod in the hub and respawned and now I can't get my stuff back 😭

[leaden turret]

:ada:

[jagged nymph]

i know i was checking for ada autoreact

it was suggested

[ornate saffron]

Move the hub

[leaden turret]

@woven sail how much of a pita is it to expand the auto-react list?

[drowsy verge]

You can move buildings? Or dismantle and place again

[leaden turret]

dismantle and place again

[ornate saffron]

Dismantle then place.

[jagged nymph]

i dont imagine its difficult

[keen flame]

dismantling refunds all materials

[leaden turret]

-# move building by picking up monitor and putting it somewhere else

[ornate saffron]

This is the way

[keen flame]

i lowkey slept for like 4 hrs last night

[jagged nymph]

dismantling and rebuilding is completely identical to moving

[ornate saffron]

Better then nothing. Not as good as 7. But I take what I can get too

[woven sail]

auto-react list?

[leaden turret]

looks at leftover screws from dismantled furniture after moving

suuuuuure

[leaden turret]

subway coupon

[keen flame]

i'm surviving on 2 cans of monster

[keen flame]

isomorphic one might say

[leaden turret]

there's supposed to be a reaction for 🥖 there

[leaden turret]

the satisfactory bot auto-reacts based on certain keywords

[ornate saffron]

Is that a....

Reference

[keen flame]

wth whys it called french bread

[leaden turret]

epic subway ps5 coupon

[keen flame]

😭

[keen flame]

i guess it's a math reference if you look at it that way?

[jagged nymph]

baguette

[jagged nymph]

a math reference

[leaden turret]

because baguette is french

[jagged nymph]

baguette literally just means wand in french

[keen flame]

see i knew youd get it

[leaden turret]

only when it's stale

[keen flame]

drake laptop gif...

[real shale]

oh wow, have to actually automate stators for DD in 1.2

[crystal cedar]

same :D

[jagged nymph]

for what?

[real shale]

fluid truck stations

[jagged nymph]

oh

[ornate saffron]

I thought so but wasn't sure

[leaden turret]

some of the older bots were a pita to tinker with, I dunno what the situation is now

[jagged nymph]

that sucks, they specifically removed it from power storage recipe cause it was the only thing that used it no? and now its the same thing but for fluid stations

[keen flame]

@jagged nymph are you in uni or graduate?

[jagged nymph]

8th grade actually

[keen flame]

HOLY what

[crystal cedar]

No shot.

[keen flame]

you're smol....

[woven sail]

ficsit

[crystal cedar]

And he knows how to use linux..

[jagged nymph]

its not even that hard

[leaden turret]

||dare you to make it react to coke but not pepsi just to see if Mikael notices||

[keen flame]

okay well i think it's an insanely bigger feat to know what isomorphism is in 8th grade than using linux

[crystal cedar]

Whatever bro. fellow 8th grader. Can't even do basic cmd.

[leaden turret]

[insert steve buscemi meme]

[jagged nymph]

i mean you wouldnt know how unless you specifically wanted to learn about it

[crystal cedar]

I do want to learn about it

Yet i mess up syntax

[jagged nymph]

do you want to actually use linux or just learn about it

cause if you just want to learn about it you could setup a virtual machine on your windows install

[crystal cedar]

I wanna use it cuz it's ligher but not all games support it

[jagged nymph]

almost all games can work on it with some work. Except for some games with kernel level anticheat

[keen flame]

i had 200 gb partition reserved for linux but decided not to use it

[crystal cedar]

Yes.||stoobid me tried to dual boot instead and wiped my drive accidentally||

[jagged nymph]

😭

[keen flame]

it's hard to escape the stereotypes being.. trans and all

[woven sail]

wonder if this will work

[jagged nymph]

lol yeah

[woven sail]

coke

[swift dragon]

survey completed by the kittens and puppies says :ficsitpepsi: is better

[crystal cedar]

Woah

[ornate saffron]

Jump into #off-topic-tech them boys love the Linus topic.

[crystal cedar]

Coke

[swift dragon]

survey completed by the kittens and puppies says :ficsitpepsi: is better

[leaden turret]

🤣

[jagged nymph]

i like coke

petroleum coke

[crystal cedar]

I like redbull moee

[leaden turret]

emote doesn't embed, but joke is funny

[jagged nymph]

coke petroleum

[crystal cedar]

Tastes like power

[jagged nymph]

i guess it only works if you only say coke

[leaden turret]

are you able to change bot's PFP to ? (see #1449014435174940693 message for source image)

[woven sail]

try again

[jagged nymph]

coke

[white dawn]

-# in the American south, all petroleum-derived products are just called "petroleum coke"

[leaden turret]

does not approve of giving you wings, hence why drone is not pilotable

coke

[crystal cedar]

coke

[leaden turret]

pepsi

[crystal cedar]

Ig not

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory message ||as intended||

[crystal cedar]

Huh. Coke gets a reply from the bot but coke gets a reaction?

[leaden turret]

Coke

[jagged nymph]

Coke coke

[crystal cedar]

Or not

[leaden turret]

ada

[crystal cedar]

It did sm time ago

[crystal cedar]

This 1

[leaden turret]

@woven sail did you turn off the text joke or is it on a timeout?

[woven sail]

I added pepsi to the list aswell

[jagged nymph]

pepis

[woven sail]

i turned it off

[crystal cedar]

..

[jagged nymph]

😭

[leaden turret]

can we has ada reaction pls?

[crystal cedar]

@woven sail ?

[woven sail]

ada isn't as cool as coke and pepsi

aww

[crystal cedar]

Ada

I can't see the reactions cuz disc on mobile is dum.

[ornate saffron]

I agree wholeheartedly but for different reasons

[crystal cedar]

Smtimes images also js don't work

[jagged nymph]

discord mobile is doodoo

[crystal cedar]

Yes.

[leaden turret]

ada

@woven sail ty ^_^

[crystal cedar]

Ahhahhahahhhhh i can't see the reaction

YES

FINALLY

[reef basin]

oh god, should I block the bot again

[jagged nymph]

i didnt know you could do that

[reef basin]

that forbids it from reacting onto your posts

[jagged nymph]

yea

i knew that worked on people but i didnt know about bots

[reef basin]

I had it blocked back in time where like every second word had a reaction

seems it's happening again

[jagged nymph]

jsut with ada pepsi and coke

[crystal cedar]

Why tho?

[reef basin]

ada and coke are words you often use in SF context 🤷

[crystal cedar]

Why block it

[reef basin]

because I don't want the reaction spam

[crystal cedar]

O

Like petroleum coke

Iuno Abt Ada tho

[vernal walrus]

They really went and made the bot react to keywords? Oof.

[jagged nymph]

it already did it with coupons

[crystal cedar]

never knew that. Coupons

[reef basin]

it did for a long time for many words. They removed the words over time to be less annoying, but apparently we're back in the annoying phase

[real shale]

#screenshots message made a mini gas station for my trucks

[fervent crypt]

Hey ! What appens when we want to move the space elevator ? so deleting and replacing ?
do we need to recomplete all phase ?

[ornate saffron]

No

[next ivy]

The progress shouldnt reset

You can move it freely

[ornate saffron]

Its like moving any. Other building

[cosmic apex]

if i have water pikes mk1, whats the ratio for water extractor to coal generator?

[tall lantern]

the same as it is with any other mk of pipe

one gen needs 45 water, one extractor provides 120

[next ivy]

look at how much a pump makes
and look at how much a coal generator uses

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[real shale]

Time to establish my coal powered truck network

[cosmic apex]

thx, but i have 3 coal generators hooked up to 2 water extractors, with coal from a mk1 normal (purity) node, and they are still quite unstable running out of water all the time

they go back up to full production a couple seconds later but those couple seconds my complete energy production cuts in half

[ornate saffron]

Did you set the clock on your water generators?

[jagged nymph]

do you have enough headlift

[cosmic apex]

how do i do that?

[cosmic apex]

what?

[jagged nymph]

are your coal gens higher than your water extractors

if so you need pumps

[ornate saffron]

You unlock it in the mam

[cosmic apex]

i already have like 3 pumps, and it really only goes up a maximum of 5 meters

[cosmic apex]

havent gotten anything in the mam yet 😭

[jagged nymph]

you should its really helpful

[cosmic apex]

tbh i havent explored at all yet

[jagged nymph]

send screenshot of your layout

in #screenshots

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with screen shots and all information you can think of

[cosmic apex]

#screenshots message

[tranquil lantern]

I have come to the conclusion that deletion of structures is a major pain point, preventing people from rebuilding more often than they would otherwise. We need a deconstruct mode that just deletes instantly. The "mass delete" is fine but it's just not enough when you're doing a big rebuild.

[normal orbit]

use scim

[tranquil lantern]

That's better than mass delete, but still not as easy as it should be

I can program in C# maybe I'll try my hand at modding. I know C++ isn't the same.

[tall lantern]

maybe this is a feature to discourage wasting time rebuilding when you could just build new and leave the existing alone

[delicate bone]

Hey is the problem of the vertical notes a known problem? are there any fixes?

[ornate saffron]

Notes?

[delicate bone]

like the stuff you write on the side of your screen

it stacks vertically and splits your text randomly

[ornate saffron]

Ive personally never had a issue.

Have you checked #1038092680493801533 for similar issues?

[delicate bone]

Yeah theres no response there though

[wispy osprey]

The coffee stain team seem like really nice people. Their love for the game shows and I'm looking forward to more in store

[delicate bone]

#screenshots message

Here

[ornate saffron]

Are you on 1.2 ?

[fluid sapphire]

thats a longstanding bug i have seen around multiple times, not sure what you can do to alleviate it though, restart the game?

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message

Can someone help me with this? The cables on the large power poles are not visible. I used to be able to find my way to my other factories using small cables, but I can't anymore because the cables are not visible. Even if I'm nearby, they're only visible from one point. I've checked the graphics settings, but I couldn't find anything to adjust the distance or spacing of the cables.

[delicate bone]

Nope, 1.1

[delicate bone]

ah okay thank you

[ornate saffron]

This has to due to with
Game settings. Your setting can limit draw distance to make the game playable there is a cap though.

[abstract girder]

Which setting do I need to change because I can't find it?

And even if I'm right next to the cable, it's not visible to me.

visible from a certain distance

[ornate saffron]

Hmm maybe its some other issue.

I do not know. Hopefully someone else does

[abstract girder]

I hope someone can solve this because it's really annoying me. Showing the wires adds an aesthetic touch to my world, but like this it's not nice at all.

[normal orbit]

using framegen or an upscaler?

[abstract girder]

whats that? i dont know it

[normal orbit]

dlss, fsr, xess etc

[abstract girder]

Since I don't know exactly what you're talking about, I'll send you screenshots of my system specifications and the game settings I see.

[real shale]

and with that, my truck network has begun....

[abstract girder]

nvidia 1650gtxsuper, amd ryzen 5 5500, 16gb ram

I need to join the game, one minute.

[normal orbit]

just check under video options

[ornate saffron]

Frig puts all responses through a translator.

There maybe some communication issues

[normal orbit]

ah

[abstract girder]

#screenshots message

[normal orbit]

everything on low is probably why

[abstract girder]

No, no, there's no problem. I know the words he used, but I don't know how they function.

Yes, that's probably correct, but I haven't figured out which setting I need to adjust to make the cables visible.

[normal orbit]

might be view distance

[abstract girder]

hmm okay i will try it now

[normal orbit]

but yea, no upscaling method used, so its not that just rendering wrong

[fluid sapphire]

you could crank them all up, to see if it changes anything, then turn them back down until you find the culprit

[abstract girder]

ohhh shit it works thank you so much for your efforts

But I hope I don't experience any FPS drop for this. 😔

[normal orbit]

you might, it'll render more

[real shale]

#screenshots message

IT GROWS

[fluid sapphire]

ah, fellow grass fields industrial complex lover

[abstract girder]

Yeah, if it gets tough, there's nothing I can do, I'll just have to drop it, unfortunately.

[real shale]

also learned that i need a 3 foundation wide road not 2 foundation

oops

[ornate saffron]

I would first turn off or lower shadow settings.

[wispy tundra]

Gooood morning folks

A good day for you who just unlocked the manufacturer and is thinking daaaaAAAAAAMN that's gonna be one hell of an operation to make those elevator parts...

[abstract girder]

That's true, but shadows are the most important thing.

[abstract girder]

good morning dude

[abstract girder]

I'm happy I got through those stages :D

When the clouds parted, the space elevator looked like a giant UFO, wow!

#screenshots message

[wispy tundra]

and I unlocked trains, but the thing is, I'm not moving LOTS of items around. I'm thinking here whether I should connect my platforms with trains or roads...

trains seem so overkill for moving like 40 units of an item per minute

[abstract girder]

I think the roads would look much nicer for this.

[fluid sapphire]

if you build rail properly its reusable for other stuff later

[wispy tundra]

there's that to consider, yeah

[abstract girder]

Yes, that's also true; I hadn't thought of that.

[fluid sapphire]

trains are OK for this, a single car is more than capable of carrying 40 products per minute across the entire map

i have one doing 15 plastic per minute, it takes one trip every 7 hours

[ornate saffron]

Use factory carts. They dont need amy fuel

[tranquil bolt]

Drones work okay for me, but i make a metric shitload of turbo fuel

[fluid sapphire]

drones are probably the best fit for this quantity

but they said they just unlocked trains

[keen flame]

crazy addiction

[fluid sapphire]

so fair to assume no drones yet

[keen flame]

after 21 minutes of playing another game i'm already awnting to go back to sf

[tranquil bolt]

Trains worked great for me when i got them, but i under utilized them

[tranquil bolt]

Dual monitors. Then you can play 2 at once

[keen flame]

or it can run in the background because this is satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

well, why stop there

[keen flame]

but i'm afraid it'll kill my laptop

[tranquil bolt]

Set up a server and itll run 24/7. thats what i had to do

[pulsar phoenix]

How many refinery do you need for 16 generators

[tranquil bolt]

I think i had 5 refineries overclocked making turbo fuel to run 19 generators?

[tall lantern]

though, if you're relying on AFK production you're playing this automation game "wrong"
(obligatory "you can't play it wrong if you're having fun")

[pulsar phoenix]

What about normal fuel

[fluid sapphire]

each generator burns 20 fuel/min at default

[wispy tundra]

OK so, just to see if I got this straight:
the train station lines up with the locomotive, and the freight platforms line up with each car in sequence?
so, if I build a platform directly beside the station, it'll ALWAYS load the first car. And the one I build behind it will ALWAYS load the second car, and so on

[pulsar phoenix]

Thanks

[wispy tundra]

is that correct?

[tall lantern]

correct

[fluid sapphire]

regular fuel, yeah

[ornate saffron]

Depends what you are producing

If you are using normal fuel each generators uses 20/min fuel a minute at 100% clock speed

[tranquil bolt]

I dont remember for normal fuel. I used the heavy waste oil or what ever that purple shit is (coming from plastic and rubber) to make fuel out of but that was atleast 150 hours of game play ago

[wispy tundra]

thanks. That's actually very interesting and I actually might use trains for inter-platform communication

[wispy tundra]

normal fuel is 20/min at 100%
I know cuz that's what I'm building now

[vague thorn]

rip chuck norris

[tranquil bolt]

If you have smart splitters you can load what ever you want into what ever part of the train and then split it out

Or programable splitters i mean

[wispy tundra]

I use trucks for intra-platform logistics, so I'll probably connect one truck station to each platform

[tranquil bolt]

I tried to rush thru and got overwhelmed. Never really built anything for trucks. Now im redoing everything

[jagged nymph]

i never use trucks

i may use them in 1.2 since they are better now but before i never did

[tall lantern]

same, never really needed that sorta transport

[wispy tundra]

My playthrough is 100% based on truck logistics, I am BEYOND excited for this patch

[crystal cedar]

Thr only alternative to belts I used were drones 🫠

[tranquil bolt]

I use a truck for exploration so i can carry mass amounts of material with me to unlock drop pods, and build miners

[tall lantern]

I just use the DD for that

[jagged nymph]

i HATE drones ive never been able to get them to work reliably

[wispy tundra]

I build mini towns instead of megafactories. There I have several factories producing ONE ITEM each and a fleet of tractors distribute items between them

[crystal cedar]

When u need stuff in very low quantity (mid-late game stuff) it'd not bad

[tranquil bolt]

The drones are easy if moving one material. I struggled with multiple materials. When i get home, if you wanted i can try and help

[reef basin]

that's arguably even worse

[jagged nymph]

thats what i usually do (or sometimes multiple items if they share similar items) except this playthrough where im gonna make essentialyl everything in one central factory

except for stuff like aluminum or oil products, ill process those first and then ship them over

[wispy tundra]

Yeah. Same. Like I have a copper factory producing sheets, wire and cables

[jagged nymph]

or the cubes, usually make them all in one place

[fluid sapphire]

whats your problem with drones? set up a dedicated fuel drone for your drop off point, send out fetcher drones, huzzah

couldnt be any simpler

[tranquil bolt]

For me it has been easiest to build medium size factory’s that produce what ever i can get out of the ore i mine. Then i send it to another factory to combine it with other stuff, and so on till i got a mega factory

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[wispy tundra]

I have one platform producing all starter items + elevator parts, and now I'm building a second one elsewhere making plastic and rubber. I'll have to connect the two, and was thinking whether I should use trains or roads, since I'm moving small quantities.

[jagged nymph]

they jsut decide not to work sometimes, sometimes i just have to delete them and replace them and suddenly they work

[reef basin]

if you have several factories, you don't have megafactory 🙂

[tranquil bolt]

I assumed megafactory meant size, not material production

[wispy tundra]

Well, Platform Alpha takes a HUGE chunk of grass fields and it makes about 15 items, so I'd call it the equivalent to a megafactory.

[jagged nymph]

yeah megafactory just means a big factory that makes tons of things

you absolutely can have a megafactory with other smaller factories

[reef basin]

megafactory means "all production in one place"

[reef basin]

see above

it's a name of a gameplay style

[wispy tundra]

Edited it for clarity

[jagged nymph]

not true, you can have a megafactory that makes tons of things with other sattelite factories processing oil, or aluminum, etc, and shipping it back to the megafactory

[reef basin]

"megafactory" doesn't refer to the factory itself though

it's about gameplay style

[wispy tundra]

Ah yeah, that's why I call it a macrostructure, not a megafactory.

[fluid sapphire]

its an already established term in the context of satisfactory

[tranquil bolt]

My “mega” factory makes everything besides what id call basic items

[tall lantern]

some people have a very strict definition of megafactory, but it's nowhere near as universal as others

[hexed phoenix]

Micro factories.. This is the way

[knotty bear]

Is it a megafactory if I build walls around the whole map and a ceiling and a floor?

[reef basin]

if you want to talk about size "big factory" has same number of characters and is much clearer 🙂

[jagged nymph]

just like independency has exceptions where you can ship stuff between them, megafactory can have exceptions where you have some smaller factories shipping back to it

[tall lantern]

if it were a more established term I'd expect it to have a wiki page like Independency does 😉

[reef basin]

"independency" again relates to gameplay style

so if you have exception of it, that means you're no longer fully playing in an independency style

same as if you have multiple factories, you're no longer fully playing in a megafactory style

[reef basin]

easy to make one 🤷

[jagged nymph]

if i had a megafactory processing almost everything, the only exception being an oil plant at say the spire coast that ships plastic, rubber, and fuel back to it, id still say i was doing a megafactory playthrough. Theres still a very clear central factory producing every final product, with just a small factory processing oil and sending it back.

[reef basin]

all production in one place
there's a reason why we have that term defined

[jagged nymph]

where is that defined

[reef basin]

look up any videos of "megafactory vs modular"

it's widely used everywhere

[wispy tundra]

Reading about this independency stuff

My gameplay style is really weird cuz it takes elements from both independency and megafactory, and the high emphasis on truck logistics that isn't in any known style

[jagged nymph]

lemme go post a youtube video rq saying megafactory means trapping lizard doggos and using their stuff they bring you for your main production so thats what megafactory means

[fluid sapphire]

the independency approach is not some kind of dogma to blindly follow

for late game products i would argue it can be actively detrimental

[white dawn]

Yeah, I advocate for Independency quite frequently but I don't always follow it religiously myself. :D

[jagged nymph]

everyone react to this messag with " ✅ " if a megafactory playthrough can have a couple small factories processing stuff and sending back to the main factory, or " ❌ "if you have to import all the raw materials and have every single machine and processing done in the same place

[white dawn]

Though I'll acknowledge that, sure, once you start "breaking" it then semanitcally you're no longer technically doing Independency. :D

[wispy tundra]

Does a town with trucks delivering stuff around counts as one "place"?

[fluid sapphire]

making end game products from scratch every time is just making things harder for no reason, when its so much easier to divide stuff into modules

[wispy tundra]

Cuz it's the literal same as connecting production lines inside a factory building with belts

[jagged nymph]

id say so yeah if its tightly together

[crystal cedar]

If all the buildings come under the same foundation base

[reef basin]

it's same difficulty, you need same amount of machines for same amount of product

the "easier" thing about it is option to use different recipes and resources for different places

[crystal cedar]

More tedious

[fluid sapphire]

large goals are easier to complete by dividing it into smaller chunks

[wispy tundra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/s/UH60W92CY6

They do. That's why I say my platforms are the EQUIVALENT of a megafactory, even if they're not a classic style megafactory

[reef basin]

how so? building same amount of machines is same amount of tedious

[reef basin]

which is where indepdency shines

[fluid sapphire]

no, it doesnt, the more complex a product is the more effort it takes to build that particular production chain, relative to previous chains it gets increasingly more work to build like that

[reef basin]

you build smaller chunks, because each product needs just small amount

so you don't build 100 smelters to process 5 nodes of iron

[fluid sapphire]

it makes more logical sense to divide into precursors for more sensible discrete units

[tranquil bolt]

Its hard to have everything in one place when you have 40 iron smelters for screw production alone…

[jagged nymph]

only?

[keen flame]

wth do you need that many scvrews for