satisfactory

[west jackal]

i dont have the inputs to test yet

[dense violet]

Oh sure , you can always manage that with underclocking.

Just need more machines 🙂

but you can also mess around with the clocking to put what you need on belts 🙂

[west jackal]

no! im doing 3:3

its 600 input

sloppy/electrode

[warm finch]

wow I totally wasn't lol.

Fun fact, I tried to replicate this on my save and failed. I clearly either didn't undertand how you set it up, or I did it wrong. Possibly both!

Another fun fact: using Cobalt's set up without mk6 belts or proper balancing causes the waste water to eventually back up.

[west jackal]

wait, how does the waste water backup without mk6

its "perfectly" balanced, no?

[warm finch]

on the input, yes. on the output if scrap backs up for too long, then the waste water starts to back up because it's not being consumed. Gotta keep the scrap flowing

[west jackal]

oh

[hearty copper]

Just 40 more units of nuclear pasta...

[west jackal]

thats because each module makes 1200/min scrap

[warm finch]

exactly

[west jackal]

thats why i made that "SUPER AWESOME COOL" splitter system to have 2x600 belts

[hearty copper]

And I will complete the 4th phase, for the first time in these 450 hours of gameplay

[chrome bear]

can I put raw resources directly into a smelter or do u have to use the workbench until I get conveyors?

[hearty copper]

Yes

[chrome bear]

how?

[warm finch]

depends, do you have belts available in your build menu?

[chrome bear]

haven't unlocked yet

[hearty copper]

Press E on smelter, select raw resource you want to smelt, drag and drop into the smelter
For more convenience, hold shift and click on the raw resources you have

[chrome bear]

I figured it out

[hearty copper]

(Sorry for engrish, it's my second language... just in case)

[chrome bear]

no problem I was on console anyway trying to switch from keyboard language to console language I should've probably put this in console chat

[thorn cave]

i was wondering if i should redesign my phase 3 factory, its all spaghetti belts, all the same bland, undecorated color and i just really hate how it looks or should i wait to the next phase bc that factory is like the only thing that i got(its also not aligned to the world grid)

[hearty copper]

Guys, where can I send Satisfactory screenshots that are not related to architecture or something beautiful?

To get quick feedback for anything, for instance

[west jackal]

dont worry about alignment to world grid, if you want to redesign, you can, but thats a decision for you to make

[west jackal]

screenshots channel

[hearty copper]

But chatting there is prohibited, isn't it?

[west jackal]

link the message here to chat

[thorn cave]

as much as id love to redesign i really dont know if i should currently since i havent completed phase 3 yet, and i need all the basic neccesities the factory makes even if its trash

[hearty copper]

Okay, thanks!

[ember escarp]

Thanks for checking in, it means a lot. Hope your time with your nieces went well

[west jackal]

i would not suggest tearing down your only production line, you CAN but you have to be really careful

[ornate saffron]

it did. After we went swimming and then visited a freind to see her ducks and chicken\s

[warm finch]

agree with Dylan. And best to wait until you've unlocked most of the stuff from awesome shop as well as unlock mk5 belts and mk3 miners.

[thorn cave]

its like my one megafactory that makes everything but it looks like absoute trash

[ornate saffron]

I withheld the fact we are going to eat one of them tomoorow

[thorn cave]

yea thats kinda what i was wondering but thx then ill prob get phase 3 done then do a whole redesign

[ornate saffron]

design for purpose. Its okay that you phase 3 Modular engines factory only makes 4/min. its doing its purpose. There is lots of resources on the map.

the Aw4esome shop does help with a lot of decore but most of that can be unlocked really early.

Find your self a sam node or uraniuim and directly inject it into a awesome sink

[thorn cave]

i havent even made a adaptive control unit or modular engine production line, heck i just finished a way to massive fuel power plant that only half works due to the 480/ min belt limit

[ornate saffron]

? just make smaller manifolds

[thorn cave]

yea ive unlocked alot of the decor already, like most of it

[ornate saffron]

my fuel power plant runs on m2 belts

[thorn cave]

huh. well mine uses some weird spaghetti solution

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[thorn cave]

that only half works

[ornate saffron]

toruble shooting and chasing down issues is all part of the building process^_^ we all go through it

my fuel barge has for fuel lines. 1-3 worked perfect line 4 refused to and i spend a whole weeknd to find out i miss clicked a Under clock lol

[thorn cave]

Okay, I'm jealous of your design i gotta admit

[thorn cave]

huh

[hearty copper]

Dear god

[ornate saffron]

im using Packaged diluted fuel and i accidently underclocked a machine to 33.33333% so i was not makling the 60/min that fuel line the needed

[thorn cave]

lol im using the same thing except mine dont work too good

im expected to be making 2400/min worth of fuel, and im getting only 3k power out of it rn

[ornate saffron]

hmm 600 oil..... 380x2 440x2 im only making 1640 fuel a minute in the barge

[thorn cave]

huh

im just gonna setup a temporary manufactuor line using storage and transfer the materials manually to get to phase 3

[ornate saffron]

its how i did phase 2 this time ^_^

although i made real factories in phase 3

[thorn cave]

yea i think ima just do that

i dont know much of what phase 3 has in store for me other than nucular power

[white dawn]

Phase 3 is Oil (Fuel/Turbofuel) power, btw. Nuclear is in Phase 4. :)

[ornate saffron]

i think Base nuclear is phase 4 but plutonium is phase five. So you cant deal wit hthe waste until then.

After uranium ore the next sink option is rods then pluto rods

[white dawn]

Nah Plutonium is also Phase 4; just a later milestone

[thorn cave]

oh sorry i got it confused

[ornate saffron]

ah thank you. Im going to do nuclear this run. 1000+ hours and i still havent done it other then for rods to power drones lol

[white dawn]

The only Phase 5 power addition is Ficsonium, which is a pretty niche product -- many folks will opt to skip that even if they're otherwise doing nuclear

[ornate saffron]

thats my plan. Im going to sink and use pluto (for vewhicles) . I may make a single fisconium line just so i know ive done it once

[ornate saffron]

lots of info to learn.

the in game codex (shortcut "o" by default) is really under utilized the wiki is also a good freind ^_^

[thorn cave]

oh ok thx

[ornate saffron]

I also dropped some info for you in #math-and-meta I hope it helps

[thorn cave]

alr ill check it out

[drifting comet]

can i ask a question here, its a little bit dumb to be posted in question post

[ornate saffron]

if you think itll need complex answers or explaining #1038092680493801533 is best but simple stuff is fine

[drifting comet]

its a really dumb question imo

if i delete my base mid air with my backpack full will the stuff in my base void?

[ornate saffron]

it will likely put the crate on the nearest land mass.

but im not sure

[drifting comet]

but i dont see any

[ornate saffron]

are you on pc?>

[drifting comet]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

then you could just load your save into SCIM and then move the crater to a location you prefer

[drifting comet]

alright

[ornate saffron]

i like tyo use the player location. i copy and paste it then change a value by one or to so you down turn the game on and you are insode of a chest lol

[smoky flame]

The curve mode is honestly one of the best thing added to this game

[weak bloom]

My kingdom for a triangular foundation though

[ornate saffron]

its a nice QOL

[ornate saffron]

as a rust buiilder i feel this. But i make what we have work ^_^

[weak bloom]

I finally started to make my factory actually look nice and caved to infinite nudge to get rid of the z fighting lol.
I'm making a hexagonal star shaped spire for processing a ton of iron ingots and let me tell you, filling in a diamond with rectangles.... x_x

[ornate saffron]

i feel ya, Im trying to figure out a vanier for my ACU factory and i keep coming back to trangles lol

[minor cedar]

guys what do i do if my coal and iron are like so far apart from each other when i have to make steel factories

[smoky flame]

My kingd-, factory for a nudge tool for post placed buildings

[warm finch]

find a spot with iron/coal closer together

[compact knot]

build a truck or trian route

or build close to one and belt the other

[raven isle]

So, in two days 1.2 hits experimental, then we'll know pretty much what's coming when it releases, correct? I'm wanting to start a new game, but my brain is bugging me about 1.2, heh.

[compact knot]

you can always impliment the new additions

[warm finch]

start your save. 1.2 isn't significant enough to cause a new save

[raven isle]

There are new game modes that don't incorporate into existing saves, though.

[compact knot]

play something else til release

[raven isle]

Yeah, been staring at my Steam library thinking that exact thing. Nothing is sounding good right now, heh.

Kind of hoping it'll just be random nodes or a game mode I'm not interested in so I can comfortaby start a new 1.1 game.

[compact knot]

the crust just got an update also DPP

dyson sphere progra,m

[jagged nymph]

anyone have any game recomendations

[compact knot]

star rupture

[jagged nymph]

tried it, didnt like it

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-general I put my answer there

[raven isle]

Strictly factory-type games?

[jagged nymph]

nah anything really

[ornate frost]

outer wilds, if you are into exploration. one of my favorites ever

[compact knot]

SE2

space engineers 2

[warm finch]

valehim, Windrose (demo)

if you like trains, railgrade

[compact knot]

dawn apart

did i forget shapez 2

[cunning lily]

The Riftbreaker has Satisfactory aesthetic, feels like Diablo meets Starcraft. Adventure/Tower Defense type game. Solid game. Was/is on sale on Steam.

[compact knot]

CoI got new dlc

[ornate saffron]

check #off-topic-general lets move this chat to there as it is what the channel is for %)%

^_^

[chrome bear]

at what point should I switch to everything being on the ground to being on foundations?

[ornate saffron]

entirely a personal choice

you can make dirt factories look good

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

that being said foundations are a great learning aid. you can use them to teach yourself the sizes of machines, How many belts you can get in a footprint and so on.

well its 0230 here i should have gone to be 4 hours ago.

night all

[crystal cedar]

When is 1.2 coming out again?

[sinful roost]

4am, give or take 20 mins

[jagged nymph]

17

[abstract girder]

when 1.2 came out, What will happen to my save?

[hollow hemlock]

based on every version since the beginning of early access? Loaded just fine without any issue whatsoever

[abstract girder]

thanks for information

[fossil oyster]

Aren't they reworking fluids a bit? I wonder if some factories break

[hollow hemlock]

sure, could happen, I doubt the save will fundamentely fail to load though

[gentle lava]

how come this server doesnt have vc channels?

[earnest dock]

Daily reminder: Spending time on discord symptom of poor prioritization, lack of organization, or an inability to say no. Factory must grow

[warm finch]

because that requires an extensive level of moderation and this discord is ran by volunteers. easy to set up your own discord for VC channels

[jagged nymph]

Ficsit propaganda

[west jackal]

ADA would have fixed grammer 🙂

[earnest dock]

Something a slacker would say

[west jackal]

fr tho

[earnest dock]

I havent been outside for a week. Help

[jagged nymph]

I haven't either

Who stays outside for a whole week?

[earnest dock]

Level 5 will be easier right?

[livid matrix]

if the recipe say 30 per min does it produce 30 items per minute or does the recipe 30 times every minute, Like if the copper wire recipe makes 2 wires each recipe and it says 30 per min, does it make 30 wires every minute or does the recipe 30 times each minute making 60 coils every minute?

[gentle lava]

hey there chaps does anyone know any good places to build a steel factory ?

[earnest dock]

On the west coast there are 4 coal nodes and 4 iron nearby

[gentle lava]

where on gods green earth is that

[west jackal]

It tells you the parts per minute produced

So if it makes 2 wire at 30/min then that means it makes 2 every 4 seconds

[gentle lava]

where is the west coast>

[livid matrix]

tysm

[spare prism]

I can't sleep all I think about is factory

[west jackal]

Generally speaking tho, just base calculations off p/min. The only time the actually quantity matters is small quantity items id think

[spare prism]

[west jackal]

Sameeee lol

[jagged nymph]

So the number it says is how many per minute

How many items per minute

[west jackal]

I explained already bubs

[jagged nymph]

You explained it confusingly though

[west jackal]

No?

[jagged nymph]

So I was clarifying for if they didnt understand

[west jackal]

30/min makes 30/min, if it is producing 2 at a time with a speed of 30/min, it means it produces 2 every 4 seconds

Which is what I said 🤷‍♂️

But im tired so maybe it wasn't clear

[gentle lava]

where is a good place for a steel factory?

[livid matrix]

So its going to use 15 copper ingots per minute?

[jagged nymph]

Steel isnt really something you should centralize

But if you want to, build it somewhere with coal iron and limestone if you wanna do eibs too

[gentle lava]

i need steel related items for alot of things im early on

[earnest dock]

West/north corner. There is also cave entrance to SAM and some gaysers

[jagged nymph]

If you open up the machines menu it will tell you

[livid matrix]

ohh

i see

[gentle lava]

meanie i just sent a ss of my map rn

[earnest dock]

#satisfactory-memes message

[gentle lava]

i have no idea where to go

[west jackal]

And like I tried saying, base your calculations off of the p/min and not the actual number. So if it says it takes 15/min, you can supply 2 with 1 smelter!

[gentle lava]

wtf bro i have to traverse the whole map

for steel

[jagged nymph]

No

Build it somewhere near coal and iron

Those 2 things are all over the map

[gentle lava]

ill try find smth

ok should i even automate this bro

did you guys automate steel

[earnest dock]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[gentle lava]

ye nah so there seems to be nothing

[jagged nymph]

You can't beat the game without automating stuff

Everything essentially needs to be automated

[gentle lava]

ye but am i going to need to automate steel

[jagged nymph]

I mean you can handcraft but that defeats the point of the game

[jagged nymph]

Yes. You need to automate everything. Especially steel

[gentle lava]

bruh

[sweet tree]

u HAVE to automate everything

[jagged nymph]

If you dont want to automate stuff dont play a factory game

[earnest dock]

Factory must grow

[jagged nymph]

If you dont like it this isnt the game for you

[gentle lava]

no its just a pain because the 2 things i need are either far apart or across the map

[jagged nymph]

Then travel across the map. But I find that hard to believe cause coal and steel are near every spawn location

[earnest dock]

True

[sweet tree]

yea iron and coal is usually beside each other

[gentle lava]

the nearest to me thats convient is that giant lake where like 4 coal nodes are

[earnest dock]

You can alway overclock to help fcatory grow

[gentle lava]

that only has 1 pure iron node next to it and then 4 other iron nodes 500 meters up a cliff

[jagged nymph]

500 meters is like a 20 second walk

and whats wrong with 1 pure node?

[gentle lava]

its in such a buns spot

and the coals nodes next to it ive been using for coal power

[jagged nymph]

then use different coal

where did you spawn

[gentle lava]

plains

and from what ive seen the coal around me is in buns spots

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
well here you go, pure coal node with iron at the south of the map

another one northeast of that

[gentle lava]

ive only discovered half of the bottom circle

[earnest dock]

Nice spot :3 ty

[jagged nymph]

then discover more

[earnest dock]

Whats on the top right corner?

[jagged nymph]

the dune desert

[earnest dock]

Oh cool

[gentle lava]

hooray

[jagged nymph]

shit ton of iron up there

[gentle lava]

bro this steel factory is gonna be annoying as

[jagged nymph]

for what reason

just connect up the machines

its just constructors and foundries

and assemblers when you do eibs

[gentle lava]

the coal and iron thats next to me is awful

as in i cant get bac up if i go down to it

[jagged nymph]

build a ladder

or a ramp

[gentle lava]

too broke

havent automated iron plates

[jagged nymph]

why?

that shouldve been the first thing you automated

[gentle lava]

I HAD it automated but now i dont

[jagged nymph]

what happened, did the machines spontaneously combust?

[gentle lava]

cause i used it for reinforced iron plates

[jagged nymph]

then make more

[gentle lava]

iron plates?

[jagged nymph]

yes

[gentle lava]

yay

yk what im worrying about this later

[earnest dock]

Game wants you to build stuff in different locations where resource nodes are and transport end product to your main base
Like frames

[jagged nymph]

theres a reason the map is so big

[thorn cave]

ive done it ive reached phase 3 completion

[earnest dock]

Good job )

[gentle lava]

yes but alreading having to cross half the map just for a semi convient factory location is not something im bothered to do rn

[earnest dock]

But you can just plug some batteries in and overclock

[gentle lava]

i could but im tryna save my slugs

i dont got batteries ive barely started phase 2

[earnest dock]

You use summerthingy for free 2x bonus

[gentle lava]

summersloop? i only got 1

[earnest dock]

Save slugs for when you find 2 of those )

[jagged nymph]

just so you know theres over 5000 power shards worht of slugs on the map, and you can automate power shards later. I dont see you running out

[gentle lava]

yes but there are like none near me

or there in spots i cant reach cause of the slopes\

[jagged nymph]

yeah there are theres alot everywhere

[gentle lava]

well not for me

[earnest dock]

Explosives are your friends

[jagged nymph]

well yeah there are cause the map is the same for everyone

[gentle lava]

dont got those

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message

[gentle lava]

havent been exploring very far because the cliffs just surrond me at a certain point'

[earnest dock]

Just mine some sulfur ) and if your factory has extra stuff sent it to sink for tickets to buy plastic or something

[gentle lava]

and havent been able to get past

i havent touched tickets once

[earnest dock]

AK 47 is supper fun for xeno extermination

[gentle lava]

what?

[tender knoll]

Can anyone tell me how much power does a fully overclocked and fully somerslooped manufacturer consumes?

Cuz its offline rn and it doesn't say

It produces uranium fuel rods if it matters

[sharp basin]

If I understood well what Mikael said 1.2 will change the way we’ll use some tools and that makes me… so ****ing curious! 👀

[jagged nymph]

what tools does he mena

like the stuff you put in your hand slot?

[sharp basin]

My point exactly

What the heck was he talking about

[normal orbit]

tools could be anything. basically something you use to solve a problem.

[jagged nymph]

what was the context when he said that

[sharp basin]

Don’t remember when

Last state of dev

[lavish lance]

satisfactory 2 shadowdropping tomorow

[sharp basin]

Wanna build a central HUB so much around the space elevator, so much, with, you know, EVERY product in the game stocked there, trains/trucks going there… Where you you build it?

[jagged nymph]

over the hole

[sharp basin]

The hole?

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[restive parcel]

red forest

[jagged nymph]

the hole into the void in grassy fields

[normal orbit]

crater lakes

[restive parcel]

thats the sacred oil shrine

[normal orbit]

?

theres no oil there

well theres a single fracking node at red forest i spose

[restive parcel]

Are we talking abt the blue crater? Where is crater lakes I'm confused

[normal orbit]

crater lakes is north of red forest

[jagged nymph]

crater lakes has lakes of craters

[sharp basin]

Shouldn’t it be better somewhere central?

[restive parcel]

red forest was my thought

[jagged nymph]

i mean youre bringing stuff in from everywhere anyway

[sharp basin]

Yeah that’s the point

[jagged nymph]

so no matter where you build it its the smae

[sharp basin]

Yeah so just a place that I like

[fluid elbow]

Hey so a bit off topic but is the zip line only usable on wires orr

[restive parcel]

yea just wires

your kitaura is killing me

[earnest dock]

Can you zip from one line to another?

[normal orbit]

yes

[sharp basin]

Yep

[jagged nymph]

you can jump off one and land on the other

[normal orbit]

if you use the power towers you dont even need to jump

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[earnest dock]

Oh, makes sense ) ty

[jagged nymph]

on normal poles you have to jump around the poles so you dont hit htem

[normal orbit]

you can also take wall power nodes and put em on the cealing and you dont need to jump around them

[sharp basin]

I was thinking:

• western beaches: normal fuel power plant
• blue crater: rocket fuel power plant
• spire coast: plastic and rubber

[jagged nymph]

Exactly what I was planning on for my save

[sharp basin]

With a x4 production fuel production on the western beaches with alt recipes obviously

[jagged nymph]

Yeah

[sharp basin]

So I’ll skip turbo fuel completely

[restive parcel]

diluted fuel?

[jagged nymph]

Same

[sharp basin]

Heavy oil residue & diluted packaged fuel

You also need packaged water so packagers

[normal orbit]

and then to unpackage the fuel

[restive parcel]

or just like use the blender recipe

i hate the diluted packaged recipe so much

i never used it because i didnt feel like producing canisters just for that use case

[sharp basin]

Look in screenshots

[fluid sapphire]

At the point you get the non-packaged version it's better to just make rocket fuel

[sharp basin]

Yeah but you need to wait till tier 7

[normal orbit]

the packaged vs blender have the same ratio of conversion. so if you do the package, no need to replace it with blender variant, unless you have some deep dark desire to

[sharp basin]

Yep

So you can start that production tier 5

[normal orbit]

you can just tack on the nitro rocket fuel blenders tho, and reuse your fuel gens. especially if you built the gens with it in mind, like at a 50% underclock

one pipe of 600/min fuel go into 60 gens at 50% under clock. then a 600 pipe of rocket fuel go into 60 gens at 240% over clock. taking your power from 7.500MW to 36.000MW

and all you need to do is build some blenders, and take in coal, sulfur and nitrogen to em

[sharp basin]

Frankly, 1 normal fuel plant, 1 rocket fuel plant then nuclear and I should be OK right?

Don’t need to reuse my 1st plant?

[normal orbit]

depending how much you want to build one rocket fuel plant could be enough. but nuclear is fun to do

[sharp basin]

I’ll spend a lot of time in tier 5 because I wanna think looots of things from the start so that 1st fuel power plant will suffice for a good amount of time. Then when I’m short, I’ll go tier 7 (that’s it, tier 7 for rocket fuel?) and go crazy at the blue crater

Just can’t decide about the design of that 1st power plant

I’m stuck because of that

[normal orbit]

know that feeling, been trying diffrent nuclear plant layouts :p

[sharp basin]

May be an oil platform, not sure

[sharp basin]

Even more difficult I guess

[jagged nymph]

º

[sharp basin]

Gotta define a style for all my factories, that’s the main thing, then everything will go smoothly

Like answer the question: in which science fiction world am I?

[jagged nymph]

Wdym

[restive parcel]

FICSIT

[sharp basin]

I mean that answer will define color theme, architecture, everything

I’m already bored by boxes factories and it’s my 1st playthrough

[normal orbit]

worst part of it all, playing around with diffrent designs is now i low key wanna redo all my factories :p mgiht just start over in 1.2

[sharp basin]

Thinking the same

But since I haven’t built THAT much, I don’t have to, so I don’t have to start the MAM all over again

[normal orbit]

might just use scim to remove it all and build a new on same save, or if the new game modes are intresting, try those

[sharp basin]

I mean I don’t have trains or trucks, just 3 big factories and 2 coal power plants

[restive parcel]

I just did it all by hand ngl, I fed everything thru portable turbofuel plants hooked up to awesome sinks

[sharp basin]

Yep the new game modes will be game changers may be

[jagged nymph]

I think random nodes will be fun if added

[sharp basin]

Not sure we’ll have to start over to use them though

[jagged nymph]

You spawn on 3 uranium nodes and die instantly

[sharp basin]

I want survival mode so badly 😬
But won’t happen 🥲

[jagged nymph]

? The game is survival mode

What else do you want from it

[sharp basin]

I mean hunger, thirst, etc…

[jagged nymph]

Oh

There may be a mod

[sharp basin]

PS5 player

[jagged nymph]

A jailbroken ps5 can run linux

Idk if mods work on linux actually

[sharp basin]

Satis runs really good even on regular PS5

Except for a few crashes here and there

Only thing I’d love would be doggo houses

[restive parcel]

true

[keen vault]

or how about having 1 singular impure bauxite in the world ONLY

[jagged nymph]

I assume it would be the same nodes just redistributed

[keen vault]

it might be there is a minimum amount that can be of each ore. it could be more or on that baseline

[leaden turret]

@open bone <@&370483737957236737> merch idea inspired by one of this week's community highlights; head mask in the style of those creepy horse head masks?

-# referring to this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1rmc2y8/mister_bean_say_hi/

[plush trellis]

Battery question

Does multiple powrr storages work?

I have 4 right now and it saying 100% is that actually saying that 400% which is just showing 100% is just 100%?

[jagged nymph]

Yeah

They'd be useless if you could only have 1 tbh

You need hundreds for them to be useful

[plush trellis]

Currently I have 4

I am at the coal and water stage

[twin parcel]

dam destorying roads is a pain

[fluid sapphire]

What roads

[plush trellis]

So my coal is far away (that I am using to Power my generators) are far away. Do I either make losds of power lines which I have the stuff for or power towers?

Power is now sorted. It’s just a waiting game now

[vestal kestrel]

anyone has a customizable spreadsheet for uranium fuel rods?

[south sinew]

You don't really NEED batteries until you're in Phase 4; otherwise you can basically ignore them

they're mostly useful for accomodating variable-power buildings

[ripe basin]

Good morning people

[jagged nymph]

Bad night aliens

[proven snow]

mediocre afternoon squirrels

[dense turtle]

my least favourite part of this game is running and looking for hard drives and mercer spheres

[proven snow]

Do you still find that enjoyable though, or is it just ruining the fun for you?

[dense turtle]

i wouldnt say ruin but it pisses me off after a while

[jagged nymph]

Both of those things are optional if you really don't wanna search for em

[rancid turret]

resource scanner makes it much easier, as does radar towers

[proven snow]

Also possible to spawn in if you don't want to engage with that part of the game

[dense turtle]

radar towers?

[proven snow]

Think they're unlocked by quartz in the MAM

Scans the surrounding area and tells you how many hard drives, spheres, slugs, etc. are in the area

[rancid turret]

so if it says 15 hard drives you have a lot nearby, but if there's only 1 you can search elsewhere

[jagged nymph]

and you can use the scim

[crystal cedar]

My second most favourite part of the game is tis server

[dense turtle]

gotta unlock that

[proven snow]

I engage a lot with the community whenever I play a game, but I'm always kinda split on it. I love talking to people and seeing what others are up to, but generally hate hearing about meta stuff, exploits, and such

I like going through the game and learning by myself, and having it be a challenge

[dense turtle]

but ngl im having hard time rn because i came back to my save which i was playing during summer and i have no idea what im doing here lmao

i would usually just start a new save

but i got 130 hours and i dont wanna waste it

[proven snow]

imma start a new save in a few days when they add a new gamemode

[fluid sapphire]

True, it's fun to have a gigantic power bank though

[south sinew]

don't disagree, I enjoy having a 1 hour power bank, even though it's functionally kinda useless

[south sinew]

if in doubt, start by looking at the next elevator or milestone parts you need

[fluid sapphire]

Fair, my own use case for it was kinda niche

Lasted a good 250 hours ish

[zenith pecan]

My power store is a completely pointless thing, 24 floors of stores, each floor having 324 stores, grand total in the tower 7776, all there with one job, look cool.

[fluid sapphire]

That's a good job to have

[zenith pecan]

I have to shove an entire factory 8 metres to the west 🤦‍♂️ , it won't line up with the input causeaay.

[hushed mesa]

did anyone realize that if you try to get the production amplifier and dimensional depot the total amount of sam ore you need to collect is 666?

[fluid sapphire]

That's the devil right there

[dense turtle]

okay radar tower is cool but i wish it actually just showed where the hard drives were

[ornate saffron]

thats what the hand scanner is for

[compact hollow]

this game deserves to be iconic in the same way as subnautica

[ornate saffron]

I enjoyed that game, but it was a very diffrent leviathen

[green fiber]

heh

[ornate saffron]

you need 2010 sam Fluctuators alone to make all 201 D depots

[hushed mesa]

the first research of the depot and the production ampifier

[plush trellis]

[drifting comet]

arachnophobia setting is kinda funny

[vernal walrus]

One of the more creative ways to do it for sure

The constant mewing instead of the skittering sound was a nice touch

[plush trellis]

It’s just a waiting game now

[drifting comet]

frfr i love cute cars instead of aussie spiders

[jagged nymph]

I imagine they were like "yo i bet some people will really hate the spiders" "true we should add a setting to disable them" "or replace then with something else... whats something nobody hates?" "kitty"

[plush trellis]

Don’t spoil it but what tier are trains?

[ornate saffron]

somewhere in phase 3

[plush trellis]

I’m about to (well really, at least several hours D:) going to finish phase 2. I unlock the stuff for trains?

[vernal walrus]

You unlock the ability to unlock

[ornate saffron]

exploring while you wait?

[golden sail]

i think the logistics for my factory might be a lil hard to organize, ill send a pic lol

[plush trellis]

I have

[vernal walrus]

You gotta go fondle gather them Mercer balls spheres. Game changers

I need more

[plush trellis]

What I’m lacking is the steel beams department

[gritty phoenix]

Too bad I stole them

[golden sail]

ima have to think harder in order to send 720 screws per minute towars assemblers

[vernal walrus]

Split em up on to separate belts as needed

[plush trellis]

Is there a way to remove dismantle crates on maps? I don’t want to go 6KM

[golden sail]

i can supply 7 rotor assemblers so thats what ill do

still i have 20 screws per minute to deal with

[fluid sapphire]

SCIM, probably

[dense turtle]

nitrogen gas counts as liquid?

idk if i should move it by train

[elfin idol]

any one got any idea when satis goes on sale? if it does

looking to get it for a friend

[fossil oyster]

Package it. It has a 4:1 compression ratio

[tall lantern]

check the history on SteamDB?

looks like the answer is "right now"

[plush trellis]

Is there a way to see how much I am making of one thing?

[proven snow]

In the awesome shop there's a senser you can slap on belts to measure how many items per minute are going through that belt

Nothing to measure your combined production across all your factories on the map tho

[fluid sapphire]

Sure is, count the machines and add totals

[plush trellis]

What’s it called?

[fluid sapphire]

Conveyor throughput monitor

You need to have crystal oscillators unlocked

[plush trellis]

I don’t have it unlocked? Im before trains in at coal power

[fluid sapphire]

Refer to the quartz tree in the MAM

[plush trellis]

That I can do

[fluid sapphire]

As stated above, you need crystal oscillators

I have found them to be somewhat unreliable for things that are produced in bursts

[plush trellis]

I’m at the mam and at quartz. I don’t see it?

[plush trellis]

I do have that unlocked

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, interesting, maybe it was something else then also

[plush trellis]

Oh im blind nevermind

[deft drum]

i have 25k uranium waste that needs to get processed at this point

i am, at most, consuming 425 uranium waste

and am generating 250

[sudden patio]

it goes fast once you have processing

[deft drum]

so in ~2 hours it should be gone

[sudden patio]

I had like 6 million and it only took 200ish hours to eat them all up

[deft drum]

i did make sure the "fresh" waste gets priority at least

[shadow urchin]

can somebody gift me the game i love it but im currently broke

[spare geode]

Anyone know why my dismantle crates aren't appearing?

[tall lantern]

begging is against the #rules

[sudden patio]

They might be combining really far away

[deft drum]

#off-topic-media message

[sudden patio]

Do you have combine dismantle crates turned on? Cause they can make them appear really far away from you.

[spare geode]

I dont think so, lemme check

I do have it on, but all the objects are in a close area

[sudden patio]

doesnt matter. If you have a crate anywhere in range, it will all go to that crate

[spare geode]

ah, I turned it off and it spawned again. Thanks!

[sudden patio]

🙂

[spare geode]

was js confused cus one wasnt spawn at all

[fierce sigil]

I just realized that since vehicles have a built-in crafting bench, I can fuel my Explorer entirely with the blood of my enemies

[sudden patio]

I had a crate apear in Grassy while taking apart a factory in Dune Desert. It had like 100k dismantle stuff by the time I found it

[ornate saffron]

Yes go Dispense Democracy and fight for L1O

[spare geode]

💀

[oak stirrup]

i just dismantle stuff and forget about it

[pale tree]

just realized my entire factory needs to be demolished because it relies on refineries being able to push out liquid to a pipe 13m above them and they cant reliably do that 😭

[oak stirrup]

cba going all the way across the map to get dismantle materials which i wouldn't be able to carry all on me anywya

[fierce sigil]

You need to build a water tower

[pale tree]

whats that

[fierce sigil]

Make a small fluid container at a high elevation and pump water into it. Then connect it to the rest of your pipe network. You only need one line going up to that elevation to provide head lift to the rest of the system

[ornate saffron]

pumps

[pale tree]

will that stilll work even if the pipe that is at the low end has almost nothing in it due to the headlift already being an issue?

[fierce sigil]

Just use pumps to get to that level on one pipe, then the rest of the pipes in the system will be able to manage

[ornate saffron]

just gotta get creative sometimes.

would something like this fix it

#math-and-meta message

[sudden patio]

My save is too big to leave massive crates laying around.

[hearty copper]

I think I should start a new world, for the 6th time

[fierce sigil]

I started a new save because I'm on a different computer. Decided to start in the desert and now I'm thinking of moving back to the plains XD

[hearty copper]

Desert is actually sick

[fierce sigil]

It's alright, I just got used to where the nodes were in the plains. The coal node is so close, and there is a great coal/ sulfur spot not too far away. I might just look up a map of the basic nodes in the desert

[hearty copper]

In the desert?

[pale tree]

sent you a screenshot in #screenshots

i think id have to put a pump on each refinery's pipe

since they dont connect until they get up high

[ornate saffron]

yup. Remember to rebuild delete and replace the pipes directly conneected to the pump after

[pale tree]

why

[ornate saffron]

place a pump then highlight the pipes connected to it.

youll see the go inside the pump rather then connecting to the ends. this often causes fluid issues and sometimes m,akes them just break

[fluid sapphire]

Interesting, in all of my pipe systems I have never had to do that

[vernal walrus]

Well I'm going to have to keep this in mind going forward...

Hasn't been an issue yet tho

[ornate saffron]

can happen with junctions too

[fluid sapphire]

For junctions, always junction first, then pipe, that i can get behind

[pale tree]

ah thats why pumps sometimes just dont do anything for me

[vernal walrus]

I usually place my junctions first with nudging to get them where i wan't em

[fluid sapphire]

With pumps I have literally never had a problem like this

[timber willow]

was just about to say that or should say ask that if its the same idea as junctions lol

[vernal walrus]

Speaking of nudging I really wish I could still rotate a hologram when it's locked

[ornate saffron]

the infinite nudge mod achieves this if thats a route you are willing to go

[vernal walrus]

Trying to avoid mods for my first playthrough still

I'll probably break that self rule eventually tho lol

[ornate saffron]

i did the same.... for the first 1000 hours actually

[vernal walrus]

I also didn't realize how powerful blueprints can actually be until I caved and watched a rail building tips video

The auto-connect feature is amazing.

[proud leaf]

finally steel factory is done

now i need to find out how tractors work so my modular frames go to my steel factory to make those versatile frameworks

this is the only problem with smaller factories and not a mega factory

[vernal walrus]

Hopefully you don't get the drunk AI drivers like I hear about

[proud leaf]

hmm

i don't have a road so i don't know how to go well good "idk why i speak like caveman sometimes"

[vernal walrus]

Early game I always felt just building a long belt line was easier than messing with truck routes

I say early game as if I've left it in the grand scheme of things

[proud leaf]

ye but i only do that with nodes but with materials i want to use tractors

[timber willow]

i mean bp roads are fairly easy to make depending all what you have unlocked and if you wanna do a basic setup or super fancy

[proud leaf]

i'm at phase 1 btw

[timber willow]

i mean do you have the mk 1 bp maker

[proud leaf]

?

[timber willow]

take that as a no

[proud leaf]

i might idk

i don't understand satisfactory lanugage i am still learning

[fierce sigil]

It's a Tier 4 milestone at the HUB

"FICSIT Blueprints"

[timber willow]

this

[fluid sapphire]

I think trucks are really only worth if you don't have to build roads specifically for them

Use the natural roads that exist

[fierce sigil]

People are speculating this might change on Tuesday

[fluid sapphire]

What might change?

[timber willow]

i mean that depends on factory design if you can do that really since no 2 people really build identical

[fierce sigil]

1.2 experimental is probably going to have improvements for roads and vehicles

[timber willow]

yeah cant wait to see what 1.2 actually adds after all the speculation vids

[fluid sapphire]

Well what I am getting at is that it's a lot of effort to build roads, at that point it may just be easier to build long belts

[celest belfry]

A creature has been in my way for the PAST 10 MINS

he's fucking with me atp

it's a big boy too 😭 ain't got no weapons unlocked yet

[timber willow]

oof

[fluid sapphire]

All we know for sure is that we're getting fluid trucks, I am not holding out hope for anything with how coy they have been about the whole thing

I guess we will find out soon enough though

[sudden patio]

unless they fix the capacity issues, including the train, I dont see it changing much

[timber willow]

sounds like lots of health inhalers and zapper or need to unlock the basher at least and show him who you are lol

[fluid sapphire]

What capacity issues?

[sudden patio]

the train car doesnt hold enough to be useful

[fluid sapphire]

You can have... Multiple, you know

[fierce sigil]

Fluid train holds less fluid than packaged fluid on freight trains

[proud leaf]

should i backup my save for 1.2

[sudden patio]

For a single factory that I build I would need a train car that has around 500 cars to be enough

[timber willow]

think the point @sudden patio meant was comparing one "fluid car" to solid car is the fluild car holds far less at capcity then per say if you package the fluid and move it that way

[sudden patio]

correct

[tall lantern]

depends on the fluid does it not, since you also have to train the empty canisters back

[fluid sapphire]

Sure that's fair

[sudden patio]

I have around 60 trains. I would love to use fluid trains for something, but they just suck too much

[timber willow]

i mean that can depend on your setup really at that point

[sudden patio]

The stopping while filling part of train cars also makes you need a ton of cars for a simple setup

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah I mean I have a plan of shipping around nitrogen, wouldn't even occur to me to use fluid cars for that

[timber willow]

think its what 1600 fluid or gas compared 2500+ of packaged in the current state of the game for the difference depending on what packaged product

[sudden patio]

I built a nitrogen train. Took four fluid cars to reliably transfer 300/m over a distance of 500 m.

[fluid sapphire]

That doesnt sound terrible?

[tall lantern]

yeah nitrogen in particular compresses well so does fit solid cars better generally

[sudden patio]

When a single nitrgen node can produce 2400/m, it is a problem

[placid rose]

should I buy the game now or wait for spring sale?

[timber willow]

yeah have one in my world to handle nitrogen for nuclear it needs 3 cars at a minimum to manage like 14 uranium reactors which i may have to rebuild since im upping production

[real shale]

Hello

[fierce sigil]

The specifics don't matter as much to me as much as "Why does fluid in a small container take up less space than fluid in a tank?"

[fluid sapphire]

My standard train is 8 freight cars, I guess we have different standards as to what we consider normal #screenshots message

[sudden patio]

I tried to take one node to three different places and end up with a train to one and running two 2k long belts instead

[tall lantern]

for something like fuel, it's 3200 canisters or 1600 fluid per carriage. But you also need to send those canisters back (otherwise it's not a fair comparison), so you need two carriages either way

[fluid sapphire]

It won't be any cheaper than it currently is

[sudden patio]

I dont have a single train that long. They are way too slow, and if I need that many cars, the train stations would be giant, so I would just run a belt instead.

[fierce sigil]

If a train is too slow can't you just add more engines?

[sudden patio]

Making the station even larger

[fierce sigil]

I guess I just like em big

[fluid sapphire]

Slow? Not in the slightest, 1:4 locomotive to freight car ratio means a train doesn't get any slower, fair point about them being gigantic, I don't mind that personally

[timber willow]

oh yeah the one node i meantioned only does one drop off but yeah my nuclear been in techinal meltdown status as i improve other factorys since i was making most of the stuff i needed like pressure cubes and stuff like not at nuclear

[real glade]

hey does someone want to make a run with me?

[sudden patio]

It is always gonna be slower than a belt

[real glade]

[fluid sapphire]

Not in the slightest

[sudden patio]

Yeah it is.

[fluid sapphire]

It's super easy to make a train carry much more than a single belt could

[sudden patio]

A belt is a single thing that you can connect to and it is done.

not at long distances

[fluid sapphire]

Rail is something that has much higher capacity than a single belt

[sudden patio]

nope

[fluid sapphire]

Exactly at long distances

Sorry guy, you are flat out wrong about this

[fierce sigil]

Long distances is what makes a train better in the first place

[sudden patio]

You are flat out wrong about this

[fluid sapphire]

I have a train that carries 1800 coal per minute, a single belt can't do that

And it could easily carry more

[sudden patio]

how many cars?

[fluid sapphire]

8 cars

[sudden patio]

yeah not faster

[fluid sapphire]

How's that?

[sudden patio]

it still takes more than one belt

[fluid sapphire]

The rail it's running on supports carrying thousands of other resources too

[sudden patio]

you are always limited by the amount of belts

[fluid sapphire]

What are you even talking about? We are comparing running a belt from A to B vs running a train?

[fierce sigil]

Yeah, I'm confused too

[fluid sapphire]

Multiple cars means belt speeds stop being a problem as its divided between multiple platforms

What?

[sudden patio]

Once you run more than one engine, you are using more power than a single train. That is two trains in one at that point. To truly compare, you have to only use a single engine.

[fierce sigil]

That's still a single train

[sudden patio]

No, its two train in one.

[fluid sapphire]

No lol, that's ridiculous, the strength of trains is that they are flexible and rail is reusable

Lmfao

More than one engine is cheating somehow?

[sudden patio]

I didnt say cheating I said in a compairson

[fluid sapphire]

The fact that you can do that is exactly what gives trains the upper hand

[fierce sigil]

If you have enough trains on the track that one is always loading and unloading you are only bottlenecked by the freight platform input/output which is two belts.

[sudden patio]

A belt run between two places works 100% with zero extra effort, zero power, zero congestion issues, without a 200m building at each end.

[tall lantern]

and cannot scale beyond that without more building

[fluid sapphire]

Which is a non issue given you can have multiple platforms

[timber willow]

i mean to be fair if you have a train setup espically if it has any hills to climb its a 4 cars to one engine ratio because going up hill engine would slow down after 4 cars

[vital quest]

#1482769194184343552

[tall lantern]

you need twice the belt throughput? gotta build another belt. you want twice the train throughput? just add another train, and maybe another station at each end

[fierce sigil]

We're talking about a 2 engine 8 car train

[tender knoll]

guys is the reason i cant join my friends cuz his profile is private?

[fluid sapphire]

A properly built train network has no congestion issues

[timber willow]

sounded like 1 engine 8 cars from what i was reading in the example being explained my bad

[fluid sapphire]

And again, rail is reusable, if you want to transport more resources, you don't need to build another rail, whereas with belts, if you need new resources or more capacity you need more belts

[sudden patio]

And rail signals, and making sure you are under the max amount so that the train load/unload doesnt stop the miner in that time

[fluid sapphire]

Signaling is simple once you wrap your head around it, as for loading and unloading time, easily solved by using containers to buffer both ends

[tall lantern]

I am assuming if you're building a rail system you already have signals when you first built the track

[sudden patio]

I understand it very well. You keep talking like I dont have experience using trains. I literally have 60 trains on a single map.

[tall lantern]

but even so, these are one-off changes needed to add more scaling, which is where trains shine

[fluid sapphire]

Then I don't understand how you could possibly say that belts are somehow better at high throughput over long distances

[tall lantern]

as with a lot of stuff in the game, one isn't better than the other, they have different use cases and tradeoffs

if you're just gonna set and forget, sure, belts are fine

[sudden patio]

and it sounds like you dont build pretty buildings. To "add more throughput" means a bigger building.

that means redoing walls and roofs, and entrances

[fluid sapphire]

I don't, they are somewhat utilitarian, I wouldn't say completely ugly though

I don't start decorating until planning is done

[timber willow]

i know that feeling

[fluid sapphire]

Plan throughput ahead of time

[sudden patio]

I have, but the failures of trains, had made me had to redo stuff constantly

[fluid sapphire]

It's not the trains fault

[fierce sigil]

I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with throughput over long distances

[fluid sapphire]

Sounds like improper planning to me

[timber willow]

i know that feeling slightly as well but more so with drones went drone crazy hence the rebuild everything i meantioned since i shouldnt have done nearly as many drones as i did

[celest belfry]

Guys how do industrial storage containers work? Do they only output as overflow? Like it has to fill first before sending items out?

[normal orbit]

what goes in, goes out

[celest belfry]

Uhh idk what's happening then bc I'm producing steel but it's not leaving the container. Does it have to overflow first?

[reef basin]

it is practically equal to solid train

[normal orbit]

no

[celest belfry]

LMAO

I did a fuckass loop I'm a reprobate

[fluid sapphire]

What's the situation? Just a container in line? Belt in and belt out? Those do effectively nothing

[sudden patio]

Nah, and we have had this convo before, so Imma just ignore this

[fierce sigil]

Replying directly to a message doesn't seem like ignoring it

[celest belfry]

I'm producing slightly more than I'm consuming - just trying to get some materials banked (like concrete) and ship off the excess to storage

[reef basin]

if you don't find it useful, it's fine, but that doesn't make it useless for others

[celest belfry]

I'm very new to the game so every few hours I've learned something new & realised just how terribly I have set everything up!

I made water towers the other day for - it turns out - zero reason

[reef basin]

yeah, they are just pumps with extra steps

[sudden patio]

Im ignoring his statement, but he tagged me, so I replied to let him know I aint going tere

[crystal cedar]

Is it normal if ur scared to open the math and meta thread.(I hope there isn't a war there)

[fluid sapphire]

You can do something like this with a smart splitter

#screenshots message

[celest belfry]

Haven't unlocked them yet 🥲

Literally just building out my bus for phase 2 materials

Just running everything to the assemblers rn

[fluid sapphire]

Well, get on that, they are handy, it's the caterium research tree

[celest belfry]

I really need to explore more & get those done

Found a couple hard drives but they were DOOKIE 🙁

[pale tree]

nah you can move for example 10 full pipes of fluid with just 1 pump
normally you'd need 10 pumps

[reef basin]

connecting multiple pipe setups together is a recipe for trouble

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah understandable, the early game really pulls you in all directions at once

[sudden patio]

THe only way to know how big to make the station is to build the train first then see if it able to handle the amount over distance. If I could easily calculate how many train cars is needed to handle the load, then you would be right. THe only way I have found is to build a train and test to see if it works.

[hearty marlin]

when do i unlock flying?

[reef basin]

jetpack

[sudden patio]

True flying is advanced game settings or mods

[normal orbit]

either tier 1 if lucky or in tier 5 :p

[hearty marlin]

game settings?

nah because every yt i see is flying, i thought it was a mechanic not mods, thank you tho

[normal orbit]

note advanced game settings will disable achievements

[bold python]

does anyone know the max stack of ||uranium fuel rods||

[reef basin]

isn't it in ingame codex? 🤔

[normal orbit]

its not a mod, its a game setting

[bold python]

theres a codex?

[normal orbit]

rods stack to 50

[hearty marlin]

ok alr thank you

[sudden patio]

If you use a mod, you can fly without diabling achevements

[normal orbit]

press O

[timber willow]

It's both technically since there are mods that allow flight without enabled AGS

[hearty marlin]

12 hours of satisfactory in the first 3 days since i bought the game is wild

[bold python]

omg i had no idea

[reef basin]

yeah, that's like second thing the game tells you to do when you start a new game, after opening inventory 😄

[bold python]

that was 200+ hrs ago sorryyyyy

[crystal cedar]

Look at the bottomright side of ur screen(b for flashlight)

[simple pebble]

Easy to overlook then, everything is overwhelming

[fluid sapphire]

Consider how much of a particular resource your factory needs, then measure the distance between the source and destination by train, double it, and add about a minute total for loading and unloading, multiply your needed amount by how many minutes you calculated earlier total, that's the total amount of product you need to cover the trip time, just divide this with how much a single car carries to get the amount of cars you need, helps to have a couple to spare in case of traffic.

I run all my trains as simple A to B that only carry one type of product and leave only when empty or full, this makes them very predictable, reliable and they don't clog your lines unnecessarily.

Here, totally radical way to calculate throughput

[reef basin]

(well you were told it to use it over those 200 hours 😛 )
but don't worry, you're not alone

[timber willow]

700+ hrs in for me so know the feeling 😂

[fluid sapphire]

I might be missing a variable here, that's the capacity of a car, but you get the idea

[crystal cedar]

Ayy same

[timber willow]

Worst part 700+ hrs in feels like in phase 2 or whatever unlocks fuel generators since what I'm rebuilding currently 😂

[hearty marlin]

im scared im going to get too addicted

[crystal cedar]

Valid fear.

Becuz u r :)

[timber willow]

If you do at least it's a good addiction 😂

[crystal cedar]

Smtimes to the point where u dream about it.

[stone storm]

Someone please help me understand railroad signals. Im fixing to lose my shit lmfao

[fluid sapphire]

I forgot to ping, but here is the method I use @sudden patio

#satisfactory message

[hearty marlin]

is there such a thing as a good addiction?

[low ingot]

those are rookie numbers

[timber willow]

Any weapon can hurt that just use caution since those can hurt in melee range get inhalers and a xenobasher and you should be fine though

[vital quest]

I’m asking about the message

[timber willow]

In video games yes in real life no 😂

[timber willow]

Oh I was replying more to your link you made that lead to the screenshot

[vital quest]

What about the message

Is there an answer

[hearty marlin]

as i said i bought the game 3 days ago

[fluid sapphire]

When I bought the game it immediately sucked away an entire month from my life, I hear thats a pretty common experience

[low ingot]

yeah i meant in sense only 12 hours in the 1st 3 days is low (as a joke) you will get addicted soon

[merry rapids]

i have 2.2 hours played

[vital quest]

I sleep at 3-4 am bccs of the game but still sss

Ass at it

[timber willow]

I mean reading your post looks like @tall lantern answered your questions so not sure what your needing still?

[sudden patio]

That is alot and still sounds like you dont get a solid answer that is consistant and it could change in the future when you add more trains that cause other trains to have to stop that used to run at full speed.

[fluid sapphire]

Magical feeling though isn't it?

[hearty marlin]

is there a filter system to the chests?

[vital quest]

He said every coal generators needs Atleast a minimum of 45 water in a min but can i like make it 3 coal generators instead of 2 it’s a bit over the 120 max that a water extractor can do

[daring socket]

could someone help me understand water flow?

[fluid sapphire]

That's why I build my trains so they have a lot of time to spare, very handily accounts for all future traffic, a common example is 14 minutes of time to complete a trip, but it only takes like 5

And if there are problems later you can always create sidelines or shortcuts

That's part of the beauty of trains, they don't need to always run at full speed

[sudden patio]

That's not my experience at all.

[unkempt blade]

yeah but if you want your factory to be maximum awesome you actually need extra trains just to see them drive around

[sudden patio]

but that is ok, that is Satisfactory, there arent any rules to how to do things

[timber willow]

Oh that part yeah your best bet is depending where you wanna stick the coal generator s determines how much you can feed them I mean for example there is a spot with 3 pure nodes in the middle ish of the map but most people depending where they start there playthrough I mean my current play was grasslands and I'm using the valley near there for coal since believe 2 normal nodes I think right there

[fluid sapphire]

I have a factory with 21 trains all entering from the same side, exits are split into two sides, zero issues with traffic, could actually fit a lot more

[vital quest]

Im at the 4 coal

[timber willow]

And what is the quality of those nodes

[fluid sapphire]

There are not, for sure, my ethos is to keep systems stupid simple and build slightly overkill just in case, hasn't failed me yet, particularly for trains

The method I described is absolutely foolproof I assure you

[sudden patio]

For you it might be, but I dont want to see trains with half empty cars.

[deft drum]

Just make more than 1 extractor. 8 coal generators are fed by 3 extractors. However you need more than 1 pipe to get the water to the coal generators

[vital quest]

Yep i know that

[fluid sapphire]

They are never half empty, they don't even leave unless they are either completely empty or completely full

[vital quest]

Pipe junctions right?

[deft drum]

Yeah

[timber willow]

@vital quest check dms

[silent vigil]

yall what do i do after ive been radiated

[fluid sapphire]

Drop the uranium you are carrying

Or die

If you are not carrying radioactive material, simply move away from the AoE

[fierce sigil]

Just like when I got my hand stuck in that pickle jar

[silent vigil]

OH SO THATS WHY I KEPT DYING

[daring socket]

am i bottlenecking my coal gen setup, because of mk 1 pipes?

i have 4 water extractors, running into 8 coal gens, since I have only mk1 pipes and I'm feeding 4 extractors into 1, am i not getting as much flow rate as i possibly can. therefore my generators aren't getting enough water?

[normal orbit]

one pipe to four is fine, if you have eight, use two pipes

[fierce sigil]

What I do is I fill a second pipe into the opposite side

[daring socket]

okay so i am, thank you guys, ive been trying to figure this water thing out forever

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[normal orbit]

the game tells you how much can flow inside a pipe

just do the math

[sudden patio]

When I have tried trains like that, the load/unload time screws up the timing. And when trains have to stop for other trains, I get backup or a lack of delivery. I dont want double engine trains. I have a couple because some plans had to be changed, and so I had to make it work, but in end, trains are more work than a belt. And when it comes to fluids (which is how this all started), if the train cars dont change how much they hold, I dont see it changing much.

[normal orbit]

ngl, sounds like you're not buffering the loading/unloading and having bad junctions if they stop for such a long time.

[fierce sigil]

Yeah, and if your trains are blocking other trains that are meant for different stations something is very wrong there

[sudden patio]

I am buffering. But anyway, I got shit to do not here. have a good day

[silk coral]

Yall think satisfcatory will run well on the new MacBook neo

I might get one with my student discount

[fluid sapphire]

All good, we're just saying these are all solvable problems

[plush trellis]

Still waiting

Is there a max that the awesome sink can go to?

[fluid sapphire]

Nope, it has a display limit but it can go over that

[plush trellis]

Is there a max?

[fluid sapphire]

What do you mean by max

[plush trellis]

Each ticket costs more and more. When does it stop going up? Or does it keep climbing? Soon will it cost millions?

[fluid sapphire]

Oh, ticket cost, yes that has a cap

[plush trellis]

Which is?

[fluid sapphire]

Don't remember, it's on the wiki

[proven snow]

Remember hearing 0.5 billion points one time.

No idea if that's accurate

[sudden patio]

And I am saying that I have heard everything you could possibly say about it, and I dont agree. Which again is fine.

[fierce sigil]

It is fine, but one of you has to be fine with not having the last word in a disagreement

[fluid sapphire]

Not sure what you are disagreeing with, I was talking about facts relating to my experience, you can't disagree with that

[tall lantern]

I'm sure that won't stop it

[fluid sapphire]

True dat

It's fine, I am not going to convince you about trains anyway

I should make a guide about the way I set up trains that would help people like myself that just want a way that works

Reliably

The kind of guide that asks a bunch of yes/no questions and then if it's yes to all then the guide is for that person

A narrow but reliable slice of trains

There's a lot of videos out there but I remember watching those and they didn't feel all that helpful

[tiny sigil]

No lmao it barely runs on my macbook pro 2022 and is not mac native

[surreal ingot]

Anyone else only use belts and pipes for power production?

I never use vehicles for power because im too paranoid

[tall lantern]

for early power where there's not much need for long-distance transport anyway, sure

[deft drum]

So someone in another server is getting angry about how the Nuclear reactor building is supposed to function

[tall lantern]

for later stuff, you have other power-management tools available so even if you do end up with downtime (which is unlikely if built reasonably), it won't necessarily kill the entire grid

[tall lantern]

that's nice for them?

[proven snow]

Usually I just produce power whereever I mine stuff, so not much use for any real transport

Not that I have a problem with using vehicles

[tall lantern]

yeah at least up to diluted fuel or so it's very easy to just source everything locally

[fluid sapphire]

Local power for everything? Wild stuff

[fluid sapphire]

Big nitrogen snek, about 1km long #screenshots message

[deft drum]

Just amusing

He hates how it looks like a cooling tower with a high rise clipped into it

[tall lantern]

no, as in local to the power plant. eg diluted fuel just needs oil and water which are quite easy to find colocated

vs say nuclear where the uranium tends to be in awkward spots away from the other resources you need

[stuck canopy]

https://imgur.com/a/aR7O7iG

will this work?

[tall lantern]

dunno, imgur links don't work in the uk

#1038092680493801533 or #math-and-meta would likely be a better place to ask, depending on what the actual question is

[deft drum]

And then there's Plutonium which then needs Aluminum lmao

I just caved and setup a couple drones

[stuck canopy]

spliting and merging

[tall lantern]

manifolding ftw

[stuck canopy]

booooooooring

[deft drum]

Yesn't

You have 105 production but 135 demand

[stuck canopy]

135 production no?

[deft drum]

Damnit mistyped on my calculator

[misty garnet]

is there any blueprint for turbo fuel i should try to get before setting up a turbo fuel power plant?

[deft drum]

Then yes it will work

[south sinew]

Don't bother with turbofuel at all is my recommendation

[deft drum]

Eventually the constructor will have a full stack of inputs so the rest of the left foundries output will go to the other ones

[south sinew]

stick with diluted fuel until rocket fuel

[misty garnet]

how come

is diluted fuel regular fuel

[south sinew]

diluted fuel is an alt for regular fuel that makes omegashitloads of fuel

[misty garnet]

oh ok

[south sinew]

a pure oil node makes like 20GW or something fairly crazy like that with diluted fuel

[deft drum]

Diluted fuel is how you get the most fuel from oil

And fuel is a prerequisite for turbofuel and/or rocket fuel

[misty garnet]

i just spent a while searching for the crash sites and now i’m turning them all into recipes

just waiting to get the good ones

[south sinew]

heavy oil alt + diluted fuel alt -> more power than you will require with way less effort than turbofuel

[stuck canopy]

its like using AI for art, yes it works but whats the point of doing it

[deft drum]

?????????

[misty garnet]

thanks i just hit aluminum and worried about power as i have like a medium coal power plant and 7 fuel generators going

[tall lantern]

wouldn't call those at all similar. but the reason is that balancing becomes impractical on all but the simplest setups

[south sinew]

aluminium has some good alts too

[tall lantern]

(reminder that I still have no idea what's in your image)

[misty garnet]

i watched a video and i saw a setup where uou just take water and bauxite and you get aluminum

[deft drum]

If you are at aluminum you can make rocket fuel. And the rocket fuel alternate "Nitro Rocket Fuel" let's you skip turbo fuel entirely

[south sinew]

you can do but it's preferable to use pet coke I think

aluminium has separate steps which have their own alts so you have a lot of choices about what recipes to combo

I think electrode + pure + sloppy is the best setup

[misty garnet]

i’ll unlock rocket fuel then, how do i get empty fluid tanks

[deft drum]

Aluminum ingots

[misty garnet]

ok

[south sinew]

they're made from aluminium so you can unlock them soonish in the hub as a milestone

[misty garnet]

i’m trying to make radios for drones because i hate trains

[deft drum]

I highly recommend Nitro Rocket Fuel and also Instant Scrap

[deft drum]

Packaged rocket fuel is a great fuel for drones

[misty garnet]

i was planning on making a battery factory, which one do you think is better?

[deft drum]

Rocket fuel

[south sinew]

RF makes for a great fuel for your jetpack and base anyway, so it's a lot easier to just siphon a little off to power drones

[misty garnet]

ok i’ll set aside some fuel for that

[south sinew]

rather than make a battery factory

[deft drum]

Both have the same drone speed but rocket fuel has 20% more energy per item

[stuck canopy]

yea i figured that just wanted to double check thanks

[misty garnet]

i have a train going through my three different areas so far and i hated setting up each one

[deft drum]

And yeah Batteries used to be the only drone fuel but those days are looooooong gone

[tall lantern]

batteries are also pretty easy mind

[deft drum]

And outside of drone fuel the only other use for Batteries are a Supercomputer alt

[wise junco]

Batteries are pretty mid

[deft drum]

Even with the very sulfur heavy Nitro Rocket fuel recipe batteries are way more sulfur intensive per unit of drone energy

[wise junco]

Yeah. It's a not great use of sulfur imo

I have been pondering switching my drones over to fuel rods

[deft drum]

4 sulfur makes 3 packaged rocket fuel worth 21,600 MJ

5 sulfuric acid makes 2 batteries worth 12,000 MJ

[misty garnet]

i’ve been building in the blue lake area and that has like 3 sulfur nodes and i’m not using them for anything besides blast powder and compacted coal for unlocking stuff

[wise junco]

That's a fantastic spot for RF

Everything you need is local

[misty garnet]

yeah i can tell

before i started building vertically though i build a heavy modular frame factory in the middle and it takes up a lot of space so eventually i gotta tear it down and build vertically

[wise junco]

Or you could build above it!

[plush trellis]

I have the styff. It’s just a waiting game for it to be made and then shipped to the rocket

[deft drum]

Sulfur has 5 uses, nuclear power, rocket fuel, instant aluminum scrap, batteries, and leached ingots

The last 2 are very useless and even if you use all the uranium on the map, and use up all the bauxite with instant scrap, you still have about 494 GW worth of Rocket Fuel left over with Nitro Rocket Fuel (and reusing the compact coal byproduct)

[misty garnet]

that too but the factory is already a mess and id like to clean it up anyways

[wise junco]

That's so valid. If you want any inspiration id be happy to show you my RF factory I built there. I haven't even tapped into all the RF yet because my power needs are well met lol

[jaunty blade]

how can i make signs to shine properly
i have placed signs but they dont make light

[wise junco]

I'm using less than 20%

[misty garnet]

that would be great

[wise junco]

I forget the exact setting name but you need to activate the luminosity setting

[ornate saffron]

have you turned on Global illumination ?

[misty garnet]

i need to find somewhere i can make crystal oscillators

[wise junco]

That's the name

[jaunty blade]

in game settings or sign settings?

[plush trellis]

I DONE IT

[wise junco]

Gimme a bit. When I get to my computer I'll tag ya in another channel

[wise junco]

Game settings

[misty garnet]

is it worth it to automate radio control units cause i already have some crystal oscillators from around the map and im wondering if i can just make a bunch and be good

[misty garnet]

ok thank you

[deft drum]

My next goal is to go ahead and automate phase 4 so I can get to tier 9 and automate power shards

It's going to be SO JANK

[wise junco]

I would automate tbh

[plush trellis]

PHASE 2 COMPLETED

[wise junco]

Sometimes it be like that

[jaunty blade]

thanks i found it

[mellow meteor]

Hello, how do you rotate stackable poles 45°? Ever since 1.1 I can only rotate them 90°, every post about this issue everywhere is empty

[wise junco]

Not sure if this works - hold ctrl and rotate?

[deft drum]

Until I can just 250% overclock everything to make it smaller I just cannot be bothered to make it look nice

[wise junco]

I so get this. I go slug hunting often for this reason

[mellow meteor]

Sadly, it does not

[wise junco]

Booooo

You could try rotating a foundation 45 degrees then using that, then deleting thr foundation. It seems like a pain though depending on your scale

[abstract girder]

#design-and-architecture message

there is a tool in his hand

[normal orbit]

@jaunty blade bug, go into dismantle mode, and hover over the trains with it and it should clear the highlights

[abstract girder]

what is that?

first i think its for jetpack but i have jetpack and i dont have that tool

[normal orbit]

hoverpack

[mellow meteor]

It works, but yeah, it is
Thanks anyways

[abstract girder]

phase 4 item i think?

[plush trellis]

Phase 3

[tall lantern]

phase 4

[plush trellis]

Tier 5

[normal orbit]

hoverpack is phase 4

[deft drum]

That's Jetpack

[fierce sigil]

Phase 3 is jetpack

[plush trellis]

Oooh there a difference

[misty garnet]

hover pack is so nice i just got it

[tall lantern]

yeah one lets you jet one lets you hover

[abstract girder]

but i am in phase 3

[misty garnet]

oops

[abstract girder]

and i have jetpack and dont have that tool

[plush trellis]

Same

[deft drum]

Yeah hoverpack is in phase 4

Tier 7

[abstract girder]

okay thanks for information

is my jetpack fuel important?

i use biofuel for now

[tall lantern]

yes, different fuels have different characteristics

not necessarily better

[deft drum]

Once you get it in the next phase rocket fuel is better imho

[abstract girder]

okay thanks

[ornate frost]

how many train cars was it before the locomotive started having trouble? 3?

[abstract girder]

but hard to produce 😭

[deft drum]

Not really

Especially with Nitro rocket fuel

[abstract girder]

i am in phase 3 and i dont have main base..

[tall lantern]

depends on the route, load of the carriages, steepness of hills etc. But a reasonable default is an engine per 4 carriages

[tall lantern]

good

[ornate frost]

dont really need one, the whole map is your base c:

[abstract girder]

oh, thanks I feel relieved :D

[ornate frost]

there is no new territory to go and conquer really, its all yours, even if there are some annoying critters here and there...

[zenith bear]

Jumping spiders

[misty garnet]

i just build seperate factories and connect with hypertube and trains, and when you use hyper tube accelerators you can move inbetween them so fast

[abstract girder]

i think this game is not chaotic so much

[abstract girder]

I think Satisfactory is very successful in this regard because most games of this type are always focused on defense, and that tires me out.

[ember owl]

Does anyone here play satisfactory?

[tall lantern]

no

engagement bait begone

[abstract girder]

i have aracnaphobia mod but i scared them still

[abstract girder]

we hate

[rigid surge]

@jaunty blade
#screenshots message
did you recently paint your trains?

[jaunty blade]

ye

[abstract girder]

is satisfactory tools website usefull?

[tall lantern]

very

[misty garnet]

very

[abstract girder]

hm but if i use manifold i think that website not work for me

[rigid surge]

highlight your trains in dismantle mode an itll get rid of the red outline

[tall lantern]

why? it doesn't care how you route your resources

it is not a machine-level planner

just overall process flow

[misty garnet]

most people use manifold tbh you don’t have to worry about that

[abstract girder]

i dont know that website so much looked 2 times and i cant understand that

[golden sail]

how could i deal with the 120 extra items per minute im creating? i need only 600 for rotors and theres that extra

[tall lantern]

sink them, or just don't make them in the first place