satisfactory

[normal orbit]

The materials list O key. Can also do over/under clocking calculations which can help decide on a recipe to use

[real shale]

Satisfactory is calling me.....

but no i cant...not yet... i have to do

[vernal walrus]

I use a web calculator just to know what I need and how much of it per minute. I'll solve the number of machines on my own tho

[unkempt blade]

the call... of minesweeper!

[thin pilot]

nearly finished phase 3 then the real game begins

[real shale]

i have to work....i cant......

[neat plank]

I had a look at a Calc and it's like you need 4.87 Constructors so there's still some balancing.

[real shale]

oh wow i hit the 600 hour mark and im still no where near finishing phase 4

[unkempt blade]

that's so many games of sweeper!

[real shale]

#screenshots message look at the blueprint i found for a hypertube railgun

[hexed ravine]

how I did phase 5 in 110

[timber mountain]

How accurate is the underclock number when setting up an Assembler? Pretty sure my math is right, I am inputting exactly what it consumes (theoretically) and yet my conveyer belts are filled up, only moving in small bursts

[vernal walrus]

If you're using the SCIM production planner I just take the info from the "Items" tab

[real shale]

#screenshots message this is how

[thin pilot]

What if I need to aim slightly lower

[neat plank]

Cool.

[hexed ravine]

oof 600 hours and its all that small?

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-reacts-flightreacts-flightreact-flight-wtf-gif-11190336173610657371

[real shale]

there are several layers to most of these factories

albeit ive spent a lot of time decorating

[hexed ravine]

ehh still kinda small

[real shale]

i think i'll finish the game at 1500 hours

[normal orbit]

Very accurate

[real shale]

#screenshots message needs more machines..... and more brutalism

[vernal walrus]

Depends on the overall per minute consumption vs how fast the belt can move items.

[thin pilot]

Pioneer your factories look amazing man

[vernal walrus]

Always found it a bit odd that the MK3 belts move items at 270 rather than the expected jump to 240 from 120

[real shale]

ty, i've put a lot of time and effort into rebuilding everything in phase 4 to make it look neat and tidy

well "neat and tidy"

[timber mountain]

Should not be a problem either tbh because theoretically my input rate is the exact same as the output rate from that item being produced, looks like I'll have to spend a good time troubleshooting...

[real shale]

my swamp will for sure turn into a mega factory since ive covered it all in concrete

[thin pilot]

That’s my plan atm all my factories are abit of a shit show but once I hit phase 4 I’m gonna work on some sexy rocket fuel plant I hope

Save up aluminum stuff to buy the milestones

[vernal walrus]

It's also craft time per item not just per minute consumption of mats.

[real shale]

i am under obligation to once more show my swamp

#screenshots message

[vernal walrus]

Also I just greatly apprciate that nobelisks don't damage your buildings

[thin pilot]

God dam.

I’m in the middle part atm where I’m like do I do turbo

[real shale]

personally im skipping both turbo and rocket

[thin pilot]

Or do I really be greedy and do a rocket fuel

Straight to nuclear?

[real shale]

yeah

[thin pilot]

Do you have a big fuel plant tho?

[pastel tiger]

@real shale thank you ❤️

[real shale]

you know that screenshot i shown you

that is the big fuel plant

it has 300 fuel generators in the background lmao

[pastel tiger]

i got jumped by the dev's cats

[thin pilot]

See it now ye

[timber mountain]

What do you mean? I was under the assumption that if for example I need 80 Copper sheets/min and also produce that exact rate of copper sheets it should be a smooth flow no? Is the crafting time not taken under account when showing /min numbers?

[pastel tiger]

im thinking on making big power from oil soon too

[thin pilot]

Is this your first play through pioneer?

[real shale]

oh my god i did not see your screenshot before mine that is HILARIOUS lmfao

what a well timed post

[pastel tiger]

50h in and i got oil done but in scale for reasarch not phase

[pastel tiger]

hahahahhaha

[real shale]

you know its even more depressing that the swamp has its own colour filtering when you enter it

everything loses saturation when you enter the swamp

[vernal walrus]

The resource per minute is just to keep the machine constantly running. It most cases it takes far less time for a belt to put mats in that it does for the machine to make the item

I could be very wrong about all this tho

[thin pilot]

I was debating doing smt like once you get to rocket fuel you have so much more to go around to different power generators it just seems fun to make a massive rocket plant

[pastel tiger]

i didnt die for the past 40h
the moment i entered this i landed from the sky into a crash site without a worry
then i saw 20 green kittens around and i shitted my pants

[real shale]

I am deliberately spacing out my power generation across the map to avoid any incidents

[thin pilot]

It will be the first build I take my time with and make all the blueprints look pretty

[timber mountain]

yes ofcourse, but if the preceding item is produced at the same rate as it is needed, it should go smooth no?

[thin pilot]

Good point I wanna make the crater into a rocket plant

[vernal walrus]

Honestly don't know the full mechanics behind it to give a good answer. But if your goal is to see belts constantly moving you're going to love smart splitters and the SINK

[real shale]

i have... three? major power plants now

making 130 GWish total using just fuel

[thin pilot]

And I wanna go extreme with the blue prints like have lighting surrounding conveyer holes n all that

And purple lighting in heavy oil residue etc

[timber mountain]

Yeah I have them, I just wanted the perfectionist in me to have it flawless

[thin pilot]

Ooo I think I have 1 making 10 atm

[real shale]

god, i wish i had started to use blueprints sooner, they've made my gameplay so much better since embracing them

[timber mountain]

thanks though

[vernal walrus]

With a game like this I wish you the best of luck on that

[thin pilot]

I haven’t touched anything like that yet I’ve been wanting to progress for now got some hard drives saved for new alts I need

[real shale]

Blueprints really let you put a bit of "you" into your factories

[fringe ginkgo]

how many ml of oil are needed for 4 fuel plants?

[thin pilot]

And been getting aluminum form crashes for the basics of phase 4

[vernal walrus]

That's what was hard about playing Factorio with a buddy of mine. If resources stopped on a belt for any reason he wasn't having it. Tried to assure him that they're simply waiting their turn.

[timber mountain]

it's why it takes up so much time for me hahaha, I could have moved on to phase 4 a long time ago but I have been spending days optimizing

[real shale]

uhhhhh, depends on what recipes you are using but fuel wise it should be 80m3/min of fuel?

[proud leaf]

how is satisfactory so addicting i'm telling u a person who would hate math would still love this game "ps i love math"

[thin pilot]

It’s 80 100% 200 250%

[vernal walrus]

I despise math and it shows when I play, yay for production calculators to do the heavy lifting for me.

[real shale]

if you are converting oil directly into fuel its 120 oil/min

[fringe ginkgo]

normal oil recipee that produces fuel and residual polymer

[proud leaf]

hmm

[thin pilot]

Pioneer have you made an aluminum plant yet?

[real shale]

yes

although its kinda ugly at the moment

let me go to it and show you

actually i have two, one for just general use and one making 2000 casings/min

[thin pilot]

Oooo I think it will be my first mega build

I wanna use all the baux on the map in it

[vernal walrus]

Also using the Steam overlay to keep notes typed out helps me a lot

I need a bigger desk so I can just put up a second monitor

[real shale]

#screenshots message heres the first one making 200 batteries/min and some casings+sheets

[thin pilot]

What’s the point of batteries?

[real shale]

there for my supercomputers

and also my drones

[thin pilot]

They need them? Shit

[real shale]

i have a battery distribution platform for all my drones there where drones take batteries to other drones for them to use

[thin pilot]

Thought you meant to make the drones and are they not more efficient recipes then the battery super computer

[real shale]

superstate computers are conveneint to make

[thin pilot]

I just ain’t a fan of the way that recipe looks lol

[real shale]

ive got like 10 of them per min automated

[thin pilot]

Thinking about it, it actually isn’t that bad the hardest part is probably unlocking the control rods

[real shale]

#screenshots message heres the casings factory plus the highway for all my bauxite

not pretty because i havent actually gotten around to decorating it yet

[jagged nymph]

ooh super state computer does look pretty nice

cause youll be making control rods anyway

and likely be making batteries for drones

[feral jay]

I might give it a try, not sure yet, I'm making 330/min batteries and I don't think my drones will ever use that much

[jagged nymph]

and youll definitely be making computers

[real shale]

having looked at the figures, i need to check my supercomputer factory rq, because i think i made a math booboo

[jagged nymph]

🤔

[real shale]

oh, no i didnt, whew

thought i miscalculated how many batteries i needed

its a 10:1 ratio of battery to supercomputer with superstate

[hallow mica]

can someone show me what their fuel power generator plant looks like

...

[feral jay]

#screenshots message

[hallow mica]

@feral jaydang how much power does that generate?

[feral jay]

60GW right now

There's still another 80 generators to hook up and that'll make it 80

[fluid sapphire]

The red ones #screenshots message

[hallow mica]

@fluid sapphiredang thats really nice

[fluid sapphire]

Thanks, the piping for the tower is like this, a blueprinted stack for each blender #screenshots message

[inner ruin]

is there a way to choose which resources go where?

[feral jay]

Smart splitters?

[fluid sapphire]

Wym

[inner ruin]

do we get that later on?

[fluid sapphire]

What's the goal?

[inner ruin]

i want specific resources to go one specific path on a conveyor

[fluid sapphire]

It's in the mam, caterium tree, it's quite an early unlock

[real shale]

frame foundation train support enjoyer spotted

[fluid sapphire]

Sushi belts?

[thorn onyx]

Question, for very long trains (17 freight) what’s a reasonable ratio of freight to locomotive be? My current plan was 2-1 which seems overkill.

[real shale]

1 to 4

[fluid sapphire]

Big time, they are all over the place

[real shale]

you know it, i enjoy the frame foundation as part of my brutal aesthetic

[fluid sapphire]

1:4 is a safe bet

3 locos should be ok

[thorn onyx]

Thanks.

[fluid sapphire]

Wait, no 4

Bad at math

That's a longboi

My 8 longs seem like babies compared to that

[hazy wagon]

Haven't played Satisfactory in a hot minute, but I'll probably dive back in for 1.2 and gonna have this track on loop I think. Such great "factory" BGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-Vs16VLp0

One of the factory BGM tracks from Endfield, but would work just as well in Satisfactory when setting up a production line, of course.

[zenith bear]

Does anyone know if things found in the environment respawn?

Like is there a set amount of bacon agaric that exists in the world, and it's gone once it's exhausted?

[hazy wagon]

No that stuff respawns after like an hour or three

[real shale]

bacon agaric doesnt

[hazy wagon]

The only things that don't respawn are power slugs and alien items

[real shale]

the nuts and berries do but the agaric doesnt respawn when picked

[hazy wagon]

Was that a more recent change? Because I've harvested it along certain commonly traveled paths in all of beta and even 1.0 from what I remember

[real shale]

There is a tendancy from updates for flora to respawn

[hazy wagon]

Because I had like the "bacon harvest route" I would do to collect more periodically...

[zenith bear]

Apparently they don't

Not that it will ever matter lol

I was just curious

[jagged nymph]

maybe you were just finding different bacon each time

[hazy wagon]

Don't certain medical items require bacon to craft though?

[jagged nymph]

but in the same area

[zenith bear]

Also, does anyone use xeno bashers after guns are unlocked?

[jagged nymph]

yeah and theyre limited supply

[real shale]

The only way for stuff like trees and mushrooms and all to respawn is if it game updates cause it, i know i've heard of updates doing that

[hazy wagon]

The xeno sword I find easier to finish off certain creatures with

[real shale]

yeah, protein inhalers are the only one that arent limited

[hazy wagon]

Also bc I hate making rifle cartridges and hate the stupid dangling weapon charm on the rifle 🤣

[real shale]

weapon charm?

[jagged nymph]

i was off on my math with the pipes i need to make 320 more

[real shale]

it has a weapon charm?

[twin parcel]

yes , for dramatic effect

[real shale]

i need to see this

[jagged nymph]

actually i only need like 200 more but 320 is one pure node worth

with mk4 belts

[zenith bear]

And does anyone else get jumpy when fighting some of the monsters?

The creature designs can be terrifying sometimes

The amount of times I've been jump scared by the spiders is embarassing

[real shale]

never, im not scared of ANYTHING...AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[twin parcel]

nah just relax and place two cluster nobelisk , then kaboom

[real shale]

either two clusters or 5 nukes

[zenith bear]

I don't have nobelisks unlocked yet

[zealous urchin]

peonir

runstrom

mmmmmmmmmh

[jagged nymph]

unlock them then

[real shale]

wait wheres the charm on the rifle

[real shale]

where charm

[hazy wagon]

Unless they got rid of it after release? I honestly don't remember if it was there in 1.0. I haven't played 1.1:
https://youtu.be/2VRFyW0IxBE?t=229

[real shale]

i dont have that on my rifle at least

[hazy wagon]

Ah okay, well maybe I'll use the rifle more my next time I play then 😅

[zenith bear]

I don't see any charms on the rebar gun

[real shale]

#screenshots message only charm i have is the build gun one

[hazy wagon]

The only ones that still jumpscare me is alpha spiders at night if I'm not expecting them.
Most terrifying time was I aggro'd 2 of them in northern forest and started slide jumping into parachute trimping and glided out of the area and was like 200m from where I first aggressed them and then glided out over the sky off the cliff of the forest. Was like 50m from the ground and figured oh good I'm safe now... and then one leaped out there apparently and stabbed me in the back before falling to its death 🤣

[zenith bear]

Those things are nightmare fuel

I don't even have arachnophobia but I might switch them to cats out of spite

[real shale]

Mercer Sphere trinket when

[jagged nymph]

Ehy so you can hear it say hear our song throughout the night?

[rancid turret]

yes

[real shale]

yes

[hazy wagon]

Once you have the hoverpack though, they're underwhelming bc you can just hover above them and shoot the crap out of them from outside their jumping height 🤣

[rancid turret]

[hazy wagon]

Definitely makes the uranium area in northern forest a lot more manageable... there's 3 alphas and like 2 dozen normal ones there otherwise

[rancid turret]

i was braving the red jungle to get at quartz (I didn't realise it was under the jungle) and had my first encounter with an alpha stinger when all I had was a zapper

it took up my entire screen

i had a fuckin panic attack my arachnophobic ass was not ready

[hazy wagon]

They bring you looooove~

[rancid turret]

I ran away but it wouldn't give up

when I got to my death crate there was two of them

I got my stuff and just yote myself off the cliff to my death

at least then my death crate would be safe

next thing I did was automate every ammo type in the game

and now I'm gonna build a 72 nuclear plant generator on top of their home out of spite

-# so yes other people freak out over stingers

[zenith bear]

After you reroll for hard drives, is that it? If the recipes suck, are the drives useless?

[glacial drum]

just don’t pick either of them and they stay there unable to be rolled again

[zenith bear]

Gotcha

Is that why people don't pick any and just let them sit there?

[vernal walrus]

You will eventually get enough to get all the alt recipes from what I understand so don't feel like you've missed out

[zenith bear]

Ok cool

[real shale]

How many of you possess a ficsit checkmark?

[zenith bear]

Do you spawn in a slightly different place every time you make a new world?

[feral jay]

Whoops just got killed by a train, I didn't hink that was possible

But I used a teleport cheat that put me basically inside the train

[spare prism]

Hi

Yall miss me

[cunning glade]

when can one make ion fuel

[zenith bear]

Ficsit does not condone passenger trains, apparently

[real shale]

FICSIT condones working, not slacking off and enjoying the view

[unborn moss]

Why do we need passenger trains when you can just hop on a freight train?

[feral jay]

For more than one person

It would be kinda neat

[mortal ginkgo]

I bet the next th'ng they will ask for is, chairs.

Such people are nothing but terrible outputs for a factory that needs to grow.

[past dune]

I want covered conveyor belts myself, in vanilla.. not moded..

the lag gets bad.

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737>

1. add placeable seats
2. allow seats to be sat upon in blueprint designer
3. add blueprint designer cart

🎊 customisable passenger carts 🎊
🎊 weird custom trains for community highlights 🎊

[mortal ginkgo]

its called logistics floor.

but if belts are causing lag which is multithreaded so it is one of the most optimized system in the game well, maybe it is time for a new PC

[grizzled jolt]

Been a while

[zenith bear]

I wonder what could be responsible for the belts in particular being so well optimized

[grizzled jolt]

Gonna hop back on satisfactory. Might start over cause like 1.0 and all

[mortal ginkgo]

multithreaded + items visible on it is "kinda fake".

[grizzled jolt]

Also because I won't screw up as bad? Idk

[native stream]

im really struggling to understand what i am doing wrong.

i had a coal generator that turned off. by itself. initially i checked, water was red. tried to equip another extractor, did pipe work, flushed, made another generator, connected it with wires and it just will not work. the fuse keeps blowing and it’s frustrating me because i don’t know what’s wrong?

[leaden turret]

May 7th, 2024
Q&A: Does covering Belts and Pipes with Walls & Foundations improve FPS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3u7wgW9xhA

if you do it with occlusion culling, you also need to run the system that checks if you should do occlusion culling

it depends

November 29th, 2022
Q&A: Would adding the ability to add a cover on Belts help performance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UhSGB8cxAk

the rendering of the items on the belts is not really the bottleneck

[leaden turret]

looks at 1.2 out on EXP next week

[grizzled jolt]

Should I start over cause a friend might get it. Also I lowkey forgot everything

[frosty sedge]

How come on trains I can't have more than 2 stops

[past dune]

every little bit helps, when you got a crappy pc

[grizzled jolt]

How do I parachute time dependent

[past dune]

dont buy one from amazon!

[zenith bear]

Space bar deploys it

It needs to be equipped on your back

[grizzled jolt]

Was falling to my death and just started mashing. I deployed it last second

[zenith bear]

Good good good

[real shale]

wait i can get rocket fuel pre particle enrichment?

[frosty sedge]

Does someone mind helping me with trains for a sec I'm using them for the first time and stumped

[past dune]

for rocket fuel, you need, regular fuel, nitrogen gas sulfur and coal.. thats it

[real shale]

thats what i mean, the base recipe requires nitric acid not nitrogen

I hadn't thought about the alt recipe being available pre nitric acid actually

damn thats another thing i have to add to my list of things to automate lmao

[grizzled jolt]

Deep rock music tape is a godsend

[past dune]

im also working on a rocket fuel power tower

[grizzled jolt]

Too bad it doesn't have every track

[real shale]

i want the Accelerator song from the satisfactory trailer ingame, its so good

[grizzled jolt]

Oh wtf I have a hard drive being scanned

Ends in ten seconds?

Lucky me!

Wet concrete or charcoal. Not looking too good

[real shale]

also i love how in the release trailer they immediately show the converter as a buildable when the pioneers have only just started the game to tease phase 5 coming out

[cunning glade]

can u feed ionized fuel normal power shards?

[real shale]

uhhhhhhhhhh yeah

[cunning glade]

also it needing power shards is crazy assuming they both work the same for crafting

[grizzled jolt]

Is wet concrete good? I mean water is kinda hard to come by but... more concrete

[cunning glade]

no wonder its so ass

[cunning glade]

tf u mean water is hard too come by

[leaden turret]

looks at ocean

sure, hard to come by.

[real shale]

you are SURROUNDED by water

[grizzled jolt]

I'm in the middle of nowhere

[real shale]

pipe it to the middle of nowhere

[leaden turret]

you're in the middle of the ocean

[grizzled jolt]

Wait true.....

[cunning glade]

wet concrete and the pure recipes are among the best in my eyes

[real shale]

except pure iron.....

[grizzled jolt]

Oh ok

[leaden turret]

satisfactory is not south dakota

[cunning glade]

no that ones peak too

[grizzled jolt]

Maybe I should explore more

[real shale]

the odd numbers of pure iron make me cry

[grizzled jolt]

Need caterium

[cunning glade]

all pure is peak

cuz i build big

[real shale]

also goodquestion, you gave me an idea

[cunning glade]

i did

[real shale]

technically i can get ionised fuel pre particle enrichment

and pre phase 5 lol

[cunning glade]

ye i want some now cuz i have grappling hook

hoverpack kills movement

jetpack doesnt

[real shale]

i kinda wanna be goofy and get ionised fuel before phase 5, that sounds like it'd be funny

[grizzled jolt]

Farming in satisfactory when

[real shale]

never

[grizzled jolt]

Actually having a megafarm would be cool. Impractical and useless but cool

[cunning glade]

theres a mod

u can farm dogos

[real shale]

already said its not happening in base game, we are here to destroy the planet

[cunning glade]

like the random items they give u

[grizzled jolt]

Caterium 800 m away ):

[real shale]

just like we arent getting golf either

until 1.2 releases when we get golf

[mortal ginkgo]

Stardew Valley, try it.

[real shale]

I really wanna make like one bottle of ionised fuel before phase 5

just for the SAKE of it

and you wont believe the most convenient place for me to make rocket fuel is...

thats right... its blue crater again......

[wise junco]

If rocket fuel factory not supposed to go in the blue crater hole, why blue crater hole shaped?

[grizzled jolt]

Well the catering deposit isn't too bad
Not too far away and near water 💜

And pure

Go my four portaminers

[swift turret]

#screenshots message accidental exposure is crazy

[real shale]

also the image for nitro rocket fuel is wrong, its saying theres byproduct of water when its compacted coal

[cunning glade]

does gas just take forever too like fill a long pipe?

[real shale]

i think it does yeah because gases distribute evenly across a pipe rather than flooding it overtime, could be wrong tho

[sudden anvil]

It flows the same, just doesn’t consider head lift

Long pipes are just very high capacity

[deft drum]

No pump no problem

Half of what makes rocket fuel so good, you can build power towers using it

[frosty sedge]

Can trains just not go to more than 2 stops or smt what

[real shale]

you know what screw it, im making a bottle of ionised fuel before i get particle enrichment

for the pure memery and fuckery of somehow getting both rocket fuel and ionised fuel before the point you are "supposed" to in the game

#screenshots message

Definitely the wrong image being used here though

[grizzled jolt]

Guys how do we feel about redoing the entire factory?

[zenith bear]

Don't bother

[elfin smelt]

I heard it's desired mostly not for the higher yield... but because it can be used to sink water (indirectly) pretty easily because limestone is everywhere

[zenith bear]

Just build another one

[grizzled jolt]

I don't think I realized the scale I need to make things

[real shale]

some people say never to do it, to those people i defy them and do it anyway

[grizzled jolt]

I'm getting out a book and planning shit out now

[cunning glade]

noted didnt connect a 600 nitrogen pipe so my fuel factory wasnt running that well

[ionic birch]

How do I get the coal engines to get power to my factory

I’ve gotten them to start and generate power, but now I can’t get the power from them

[real shale]

By connecting power lines to the generators and then connecting it to your factory

[gloomy tusk]

@gloomy totem that is the most beautiful iron smeltery setup i have ever seen

[ionic birch]

Factory as in hub?

Or is that an unlock

[real shale]

No, you connect a power line to a pole from the generator and run power poles to your factory and connect power lines to your machines that need them

[ionic birch]

The coal generator?

[real shale]

yes

[fluid sapphire]

How did you connect biomass burners? Same thing

Every connected appliance forms a grid

[ionic birch]

But I need the water connected to the coal generator…correct?

[grizzled jolt]

Wait writing down the steps to get what I want actually helps like crazy

[inner ruin]

yeah u need water extractor. it can do 2 coal reactors

[fluid sapphire]

I thought you did you already set them up

[ionic birch]

And when I connect them and try to connect something else my game tells me no other power connections…I’ve tried a pole and a bio generator l

[fluid sapphire]

Machines only have one connection each, connect them to power poles, then connect the power poles themselves

[grizzled jolt]

Iron wire!!!!!!

Goated hard drive

[ionic birch]

So I initially used the biomass burner to kickstart them. Then when I got them full, I connected them using a power line…when I connect anything else it says power connection already used

[fluid sapphire]

I don't get it?

Build more power poles

[ionic birch]

I’ll try the pole in between but pretty sure I tried that and it didn’t work

Didn’t work as in didn’t get power to my factories

[fluid sapphire]

Each mk1 pole has 4 connection points, that's enough to connect all your machines in a row if you give each generator it's own pole

And then some to spare

That system forms a power grid, you need to extend this grid to your factories

Carrying power requires power lines, you need to hook it all up basically

[ionic birch]

Okay, my issue was I thought power consumption of the pole actually mattered…when I extended a pole out it said 20/20mw power consumption

That’s my confusion…all I had to do was hook it up

[fluid sapphire]

Poles have no consumption

[ionic birch]

Got ya

Okay I’m dumb…thanks for being patient with an idiot lol

[proven snow]

Might be 20/20 meters, maximum distance you can place it from where its connected

[fluid sapphire]

Is it? Pretty sure it's longer than that

Maybe it is

[proven snow]

I'm just guessing

Honestly haven't played in a little while

[wise junco]

Not dumb. It's a complex game!

[real shale]

okay what, rocket fuel is actually crazy, i am looking at these figures in disbelief

[wise junco]

Oh yeah it's wild

[real shale]

the impure resource well in the swamp alone can produce 100+GW

[wise junco]

Sounds about right

[real shale]

how 400 oil turns to 100GW is crazy

[wise junco]

I'm only utilizing about 15% of my available rocket fuel and making 50+ GW

[proven snow]

Fuel (and its evolutions) honestly just don't feel balanced right to me

Nuclear feels so unnecessary even with just using turbo instead. Hell, I ran pretty much entirely on standard fuel on my first game completion

[real shale]

So have I, but i figured out i can make rocket fuel pre nitric acid so im intrigued

i want some for jetpack fuel primarily because i decomissioend the turbofuel i was making to make HOR for my arms factory

[deft drum]

Using default rocket and turbofuel its right around 140gw from 600 oil

144 with Nitro rocket

[real shale]

thats insane

[deft drum]

It's also almost 600 fuel generators without shards

576 with Nitro rocket

[zenith bear]

Can you have both a parachute and jetpack on at the same time

[deft drum]

Neg

[deft drum]

533 with regular Rocket fuel (and Diluted fuel)

[jagged nymph]

I need 488 with shards when I get to rocket fuel

[deft drum]

Tbh, I skip diluted packaged fuel and only even attempt rocket fuel when I get to tier 9 and synthetic shards

[jagged nymph]

Theres over 5k shards of slugs

[deft drum]

Going to setup my first ever nuclear plant tomorrow tho

[weak tinsel]

What's the water collector/pump to coal generator ratio again?

[fluid sapphire]

I always hear people say that you get a lot of rocket fuel out of 600 oil, and it's true, but no one mentions the sulfur and nitrogen

[jagged nymph]

3:8

[fluid sapphire]

As if oil was the only resource it's made from

[jagged nymph]

Yea

[deft drum]

Good thing Blue Crater has plenty of both!

[fluid sapphire]

Yes, it does

[deft drum]

I did the math a while ago lemme share it

[weak tinsel]

Thanks 👍🏻, I'll get it set up tomorrow, this time bringing more copper sheets

And drive carefully this time

[real shale]

am i reading this right? you can in theory get more plutonium fuel rods per minute than uranium fuel rods per minute using all of the resources you can in the game?

[fluid sapphire]

4800 rocket fuel with HOR, Diluted and Nitro rocket, 1km radius of blue crater

[deft drum]

If you use turbo blend fuel and the default rocket fuel, you can make 16185 rocket fuel from 35.5% of the maps sulfur, and about 54% of the maps oil and nitrogen

[real shale]

oh no, i see what happened here

[fluid sapphire]

That's too many generators even for me

My stated recipes already make more power than I will probably ever use and I am also planning to cook nuclear at some point

[deft drum]

1,566 generators, 27 not fully clocked.

27 lines of 600 rocket fuel (give or take) each

[fluid sapphire]

Ah, well, I don't overclock my generators on principle

[deft drum]

Then you're looking at nearly 4k generators

3885 to be exact

[deft drum]

But why not?

[fluid sapphire]

Maybe a hobby project another 1000 hours from now

Not at the point where I can automate power shards

So I use them where needed

Rare cases of saving space with regards to layout considerations, and for resource extractors

[deft drum]

Oh yeah that's just being practical

If overly cautious in my experience

Slooping slugs helps a heck of a lot

[golden sail]

hi people just a question, does resource consumption increase the same as power production when overclocking? like 1.5 power equals 1.5 resource consumption?

[zenith bear]

Why can't I have a jetpack and a parachute :(

[real shale]

yes, clock % scales to resource consumption/production linearly

power consumption doesnt scale linearly though so keep that in mind

[wild willow]

Just about finished my mall/storage of every item.
And didn't leave enough room between levels for the sinks 🤡

[golden sail]

alright, appreciate the help

im not planning on overclocking but just to have that in mind

[real shale]

Okay so, I did theory math (mistake) and apparently there's enough resources in the game to make approximately 1.37 TW of power from nuclear including uranium plutonium and ficsonium with ficsonium fuel rods actually getting bottlenecked somehow either by singularity cells or dark matter Residue

[deft drum]

A machine set to 250% overclock will require 335.77% more power. AKA just over 34% more power per item produced.
200% overclock is 250% power draw, or 25% more power
and 150% is 170.91% or 14% more power draw

Power producers have no efficiency drawback from overclocking. Just make sure you can supply the inputs!

[golden sail]

damn there really is nuclear power then, i mean i knew but damn

[real shale]

Yeah and there's a total of three stages to it

Albeit the last one isn't nearly as good as plutonium or uranium at the cost of being able to get rid of nuclear waste products entirely but still

[deft drum]

behold, 112 ficsonium rods and a bonus 7680 ionized fuel using 45 Sloops and a MERE 1493 Raw SAM (or 12.44%) that is 2.11 TW of power

#math-and-meta message

(Other bottlenecks may apply)

[real shale]

How did you get 112 ficsonium rods?

I was only getting 98ish when using maximise on tools

[deft drum]

Tools cannot into sloops

[real shale]

OOHHHHHH

I FORGOT ABOUT SLOOPS

[deft drum]

Factoriolab can (but it also cannot into resource limits)

[real shale]

Okay WITHOUT sloops it's 1.37 TW

With sloops that's....a different story damn I shoulda thought about sloops

Would it not be better slooping the plutonium tho?

[deft drum]

If you sloops ReSAM and Ficsite Ingots+trigons, and then make power shards for Dark Matter residue (they don't take ReSAM) you can do that with as little as 45 (as I said above)

Now, that requires making 480 shards per minute which is "Oops there goes the entire maps worth of quartz" levels of production but still

[real shale]

I mean the tools was accounting for DMR from power shards too with a byproduct of like some hundred extra power shards

[deft drum]

But you can get that 112 ficsonium rods number without the shards trick

[real shale]

But surely you'd be better slooping all the plutonium fuel rods, you might be able to squeeze more out than ficsonium

Since ficsonium isnt nearly as long lasting as plutonium

[deft drum]

The core issue is about 60-70% of the resource draw goes into ficsonium, whose main draw is "waste free power"

[real shale]

Ah yeah I forgot you can't use all of the plutonium waste

So you'd end up stock piling it over time

[deft drum]

Generally what I plan to do is make the 50.4 uranium, make the waste into rods, and either sink it or store it for drone fuel. Slowly swapping in ficsonium production as needed (AKA when you don't want to make another rocket fuel plant)

50.4 uranium rods is still 630 GW

[proven snow]

How do you guys think a challenge to only use 1 sink for an entire playthrough would be?

[real shale]

Yeah it's 50.4 fuel rods which is 630

560 GW from plutonium

Which is a TW alone

[golden sail]

bruh impure iron nodes are like so annoying

[gloomy tusk]

cooked

[real shale]

Doable but you will have a lot of nightmare fuel dealing with byproducts

[deft drum]

And even if you use instant Scrap on all your Bauxite, after nuclear there's still 346 GW of sulfur with the most sulfur intensive Nitro Rocket Fuel left over

Let alone what you can throw in there with the compact coal byproduct!

[real shale]

Hmmmmmmmm

[proven snow]

hmm not a ton of recipes having annoying or hard to balance byproducts from my memory, but my memory might also be shot

I'd prob plan pretty good train logistics to take excess stuff to the sink when needed. Idk if the bottlenecking on only having one belt going into the sink would be rough

[feral jay]

There was originally only going to be one sink, but they scrapped that idea because it was unworkable

You'd never be able to sink more than 780 item/min

[jagged nymph]

Yeh that'd be dumb

[proven snow]

I mean it would prob be terrible for the game overall. Most people wouldn't like it and would be awful for new players

[feral jay]

Well at that time anyway. Now you could sink 1200/min, but still

[proven snow]

But I wonder if it would be a fun challenge

[deft drum]

Okay, factored in the compacted coal byproduct

497 GW, from 3844 sulfur using nitro rocket fuel

[feral jay]

I'd recommend doing a "sink factory" instead

So you wouldn't be abjectly limited by the total number of things you can sink

[deft drum]

Central sink

Agreed

[feral jay]

That would actually be interesting

[proven snow]

Might be a good idea, though I'm kinda fascinated by the bottleneck

Might try to do one sink and if it doesn't work out I'll change it to one sinking location

[gloomy tusk]

1200/min?

[feral jay]

Mk.6 belt

Oh I mean, at the time they were considering it, Mk.6 belts didn't exist yet

[gloomy tusk]

so why did you say 780

oh i see

[real shale]

You would be

Belt speeds will limit you

[feral jay]

Not with a sink factory which houses any number of sinks

[real shale]

But, I thought it was only one sink we were working with here

Sorry I'm very tired so I'm missing things

[feral jay]

I was recommending doing a sink factory instead of just one sink, so you still have the challenge of bringing everything to be sunk to the same place

[deft drum]

Only 32.5% of the maps nitrogen as well

[wraith widget]

i hate when the satisfactory tool calculator tells me to start the line with SAM conversion

do people like sam conversion?

[jagged nymph]

just turn off the converter then

[jagged nymph]

the solver just does what it finds most resource efficient

[wraith widget]

i know i know, its freedom, i just hate the converter with a passion

[elfin smelt]

gotta say that I would like the converter being disabled by default

[surreal ingot]

But you cant make 5,000,000 screws per minute without it

[surreal ingot]

5,059,700 to be exact

[wraith widget]

y u need that much 💀 one cube factory and i broke up with screws

[surreal ingot]

Maximum number of screws if you use every recource to its fullest potential

[jagged nymph]

imma see how many scres you can make

[surreal ingot]

5,059,700/m

[jagged nymph]

DAMN

but wait how you gon power that

if youre using all the resources for screws

[surreal ingot]

Creative mode :D

[jagged nymph]

that doesnt count thuogh

[surreal ingot]

Biomass burners

[jagged nymph]

oh no

thats 17570 biomass burners....

[surreal ingot]

231000 mw of power from just the constructors

[wraith widget]

is the belt length limit an engine limit thing? or is it a cuck thing

[jagged nymph]

not an engine thing

[wraith widget]

i HATED drawing long belts

[jagged nymph]

theres mods to increase it

[wraith widget]

cuck limit SMH

[jagged nymph]

yeah it feels way too short tbh

i get having a limit but it should be more than it is

[wraith widget]

i tried making a BP of stackers to fix this, but placing BP's was even harder than just running belt 😵‍💫

[jagged nymph]

just use autoconnect

that made it take like 1 hour to run my 20 belt highway instead of like 5 hours

[wraith widget]

i use mods now, i cant belive i played for like 180 hours before i used mods 😂

[jagged nymph]

its better to start withuot mods though

[wraith widget]

i agree, but the hoverpack v2 changed my life

[jagged nymph]

hoverpack v2?

[wraith widget]

id argue there should be an upgraded hoverpack ingame

[frosty sedge]

Hey uh u guys are smart why the hell isn't my train system working

[jagged nymph]

thats literally the most vague question

[wraith widget]

mod that makes it faster + more range

[jagged nymph]

since you have no information im gonna assume its because you tried to place the train on the dirt. You cant do that

thats what your issue is

gotta place it on a track

[frosty sedge]

Ik mb I had 2 stations and a train that went between them both but when I tried adding a third stop it refuses to function or run and when I can get it to run only to the 2 original stops it's a big loop I don't get it only 1 train

[jagged nymph]

#1038092680493801533

[frosty sedge]

Kk mb

[wraith widget]

the official screenshots of that orange numbered factory, i wonder how many people actually build like that 👀

i became platform pilled

[spare prism]

20 belt highway 💀

[jagged nymph]

well technically its one 5 highway, one 6 highway, and one 9 highway

its all just to automate steel and concrete btw

[spare prism]

Oml

[jagged nymph]

oh and i did my math wrong too so i need to bring in 2 more belts for more steel

but its all the concrete and steel i need for the entire save

[spare prism]

I just have 2 belt one coal one iron going into foundry into a chest

[jagged nymph]

well actually no ill need more for my nuclear plant but ill make that on site

[jagged nymph]

i have 2100 coal and 2100 iron for steel

[spare prism]

Haha I have 120 rn

[jagged nymph]

but thats gonna be 2580

and 4320 limestone

[spare prism]

Im completing phase 2 tomorrow

[jagged nymph]

i havnt even automated one phase 2 part yet

and i still have so much to do

although i may make semi temporary setups for the smart plating and automated wiring so i can get fuel power

cause this coal power is NOT cutting it

[spare prism]

I tried using blueprint but it told me I don't have the right size so I need tier 3-4 unlocked

Wait

5-6 sorry lol

[feral jay]

Has anyone else had priority mergers allow a few items from a low priority input, even when higher priority inputs are saturated? #screenshots message

[stray patrol]

yoo quick question yall, starting a server and not seeing mods in smm identify if they are server compatible or not, i just checked a few dozen mods and they only say expermental compatible or stable, am i looking in the wrong place?

[grizzled jolt]

How do you people make these beautiful factories

Mine just look super plain

Like how do I switch the colors?

[restive parcel]

X > swatch

Depends on where you are with the HUB milestones tho

[grizzled jolt]

Can I apply it to everything at once?

[restive parcel]

You can do sweeping changes

Or you can modify the default swatch

[grizzled jolt]

Is it in the swatch options?

[restive parcel]

Select Edit

I'll show in the screenshots channel

[grizzled jolt]

Yay! Ty

Can't I make ziplines or something with quickwire?

[ornate frost]

its just power cables you use with the zipline

[white dawn]

Zipline technology is indeed unlocked in the Caterium MAM tree, and you construct your zipline tool in the Equipment Workshop using Quickwire (among other resources)

But yeah, the actual lines you zip around on are just regular power cables

[grizzled jolt]

Hmmm I have a terrible theory of why half of my machines are paused but I will ignore that for now and turn them back on

Is there any reason to hold onto slugs?

I have like ten of each

[white dawn]

I still want someone to make a mod where there's a rogue Pioneer somewhere on the map who goes around making subtle tweaks to your factories when you're not around.

In addition to maybe standby-switch flipping they'd do more evil things like slightly downclocking a machine here and there. Or downgrading a belt/pipe somewhere. :D

Adds a new meta-game to track them down and... deal with them.

[white dawn]

If you haven't already, research them in your MAM.

[grizzled jolt]

I have

[white dawn]

(And while you're at it, get in the habit of researching anything you can in the MAM)

[white dawn]

Okay, so yeah: there is no practical purpose for slugs other than conversion to power shards, so saving them won't really get you anything

Some folks like using 'em for decorations and such, though

[grizzled jolt]

They're my little buddies

[white dawn]

Slug rollercoasters along belts and such

[grizzled jolt]

Oh. Caterium is so much better

[feral jay]

Not necessarily that, but I would love some kind of optional chaos monkey in the game. Could be lightning storms, belt damage, a rogue pioneer, an ADA bug, or anything.

[grizzled jolt]

Ada but she's programmed by the guy in rnd who programmed Molly

[restive parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-chud-chud-son-power-slug-slug-gif-14602839749787880418

[white dawn]

I saw a mod awhile ago which would have machines sometimes fail to produce their items. One of the inputs would just occasionally make it onto the output belt. :D

Sounded interesting but ultimately just kind of tedious

Just means you've gotta adjust your expected throughputs down a bit and make sure you've got smart splitters + overflow handling everywhere

[grizzled jolt]

Hey weird question

I'm hearing this weird music in game?

It's like a little bit upbeat?

It's not the jukebox, I got drg music on

[white dawn]

-# what are the chances you've got a YouTube tab open somewhere? :D

[grizzled jolt]

Definitely not

[feral jay]

Not necessarily, it does build more reliable systems. I've introduced chaos agents into infrastructure in a few places I've worked at, it's a great way to unearth deficiencies/weaknesses in a complex system

[white dawn]

Oh I'm quite fond of Chaos Monkey, for sure. :D

[feral jay]

Beyond that, I think it would be fun if it were optional

[white dawn]

In the realm of Satisfactory, though, we really don't have the ingame tools to make that into an actually-fun gameplay loop though (IMO)

Conditional behavior in Satisfactory isn't entirely impossible, but it's, y'know, eh

[feral jay]

I didn't say it would be easy or that I'd prefer to have it added to the game before other fixes/features, just that it would be awesome imo

[white dawn]

Most failure control in the game as-is would just come down to intentional overbuilding. Would need more mechanics to compensate for the chaos. :P

[feral jay]

I think it would make building reselient systems a nice challenge for a lot of people

[white dawn]

Oh for sure. I suspect we're both essentially arguing the same point. :)

[feral jay]

Eh, true, a lot of it could be mitigated just by overbuilding. Who cares if 20% of your power generation can randomly fail, if you're producing twice what you need?

[grizzled jolt]

Is there something you gotta make to zipline?

I did

Ah here we are

[feral jay]

In the workshop

[grizzled jolt]

Oh I can stim with this

I like making it spin to the jukebox music

[feral jay]

Holy shit I just realized, a priority merger can functionally be used as an OR gate

Theoretically anyway, mine seem to leak a bit

[grizzled jolt]

Is there a way to build a normal elevator

Not a tube

Trying to build

[minor cedar]

yo guys what does temp as a purity mean?

im currently scanning for coal and on the map it said purity:temp

wait is it the nodes?

[feral jay]

It means you're looking at a cluster of nodes, not just a single node

The compass amalgamates multiple nodes if they're far enough from you and close enough together

[wraith widget]

https://youtu.be/Dwzk-XZxZ4k?list=RDyc8_dYPx4ao

[minor cedar]

ahh

also guys what is usually better, transporting coal to where water is or transporting water to where coal is

if both distances are really far

[feral jay]

Moving the coal to the water, every time, no exceptions.

[minor cedar]

ah ok any tips to move coal to water or do i just use conveyer celts?

[grizzled jolt]

Oh man the woman's day helmet is fresh as hell

[minor cedar]

rn i only have mk2 belts

[grizzled jolt]

Oof... almost want to switch it out over my golden ficsit helmet

[minor cedar]

ah ok

[grizzled jolt]

When did we get the new helmets?

[minor cedar]

so i need steel

[grizzled jolt]

And build guns

[minor cedar]

i dont have steel unlocked yet

[grizzled jolt]

Where is the dedicated drip pioneers chat

[minor cedar]

need to get that first but that shouldnt be too hard unless they require modular frames where then imma have to handcraft some

since i dont have the constructors for that

[bleak valley]

I would automate power before steel imo

Getting off of biofuel is such a big step to making the game a bit easier to work with

[minor cedar]

have a what around?

and the reset of the game takes 10 what?

[unkempt blade]

a felying, a sky hunter mammal

[bleak valley]

This guys kinda incomprehensible a lot I wouldn’t worry about it too much

[minor cedar]

nah i wanna try ts on my own this is my first playthrough rn

[unkempt blade]

yeah typescript is pretty easy there's lots of learning material online

they're also great as alarm clocks

[fossil oyster]

Thanks! What do you mean by silo setup?

[minor cedar]

well uh thats super convieniant i just found a water source that i think is big enough to support some coal generators do i still need mk3 belts as of right now?

[unkempt blade]

Maybe just sprinkle it in with the english?

we can just say they're loan words

[bleak valley]

You don’t need mk3 belts to setup early coal especially if you just find a nearby water source

[minor cedar]

oh ok

[bleak valley]

The easiest setup is four coal gens being fed by one normal miner (60 per minute) then two water extractors one can feed two generators

[minor cedar]

yeah but i found like 4 nodes of normal so i might just go big on this so i dont have to worry about power for a while then

and they are all clustered next to each other

[bleak valley]

Pipes are a bit of a bitch so you want those to be as short and simple as possible

[minor cedar]

do i just make the coal generators on top of the water

make like platforms on the water and then just put the coal generators on it

and water extracters behind them?

[bleak valley]

You can if there is enough space for the extractors and the gens I usually just put it next to the water source

Gens are about 3-4 foundations long

[minor cedar]

hmm i c well i ll look into what i can do

maybe i ll go for 8

[bleak valley]

8 is a good start

About 600MW iirc

[minor cedar]

also there is this weird thing on one of the nodes thats just unbreakable it seems and i cannot put a miner on it

[bleak valley]

Is it a cracked rock?

[jagged nymph]

no do 196

[smoky flame]

How taxing on fps is it if you turn on lumen? Too scared to try lol

[minor cedar]

yeah

[jagged nymph]

blow it up

[minor cedar]

tf u can blow shit up in this game?

[bleak valley]

You’ll have to deal with that later

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[jagged nymph]

why? he can just get nobelisks

[bleak valley]

He’s just unlocking coal are they even available that early

[minor cedar]

boutta do hiroshma on it then 😭 ✌️

[jagged nymph]

yes

they jsut need sulfur coal and steel

even if you hand craft a single nobelisk

to blow up the rock

[bleak valley]

They don’t have steel

[jagged nymph]

unlock it then

[minor cedar]

guys relax lets start from the beginning what the hell is a nobelisk

[jagged nymph]

a bomb

[bleak valley]

Or just blow up the rock later and use the other three nodes

[jagged nymph]

its in the sulfur research tree in the mam

[minor cedar]

yeah but it be un even 180 is ugly 240 is beautiful

[bleak valley]

Go for it then

[jagged nymph]

180 is even

[minor cedar]

yes but ugly

[minor cedar]

lmao nah imma just do 120 and go for 8 coal generators ig

deal with that rock thing later

[jagged nymph]

or just unlock it in the mam rq

the nobelisk

all you need is a little bit of sulfur and some steel

[minor cedar]

i dont have steel unlocked rn

i just got to phase 1 and just unlocked coal

[jagged nymph]

unlock it and just handcraft like 4 steel pipes

[minor cedar]

brotha im not handcrafting 100 steel pipes to unlock the detonator 😭

[jagged nymph]

thats not that bad its like 1 minute of hand crafting

[minor cedar]

yeah but doesnt that require steel ingots?

[jagged nymph]

yeah which is just iron ore and coal ore

i mean you dont have to but itd make your coal power better

[minor cedar]

ah damn i need an assembler to get the black powder

[jagged nymph]

you can hand craft it in equipment workshop @minor cedar

[mossy ingot]

hello 🙂

[minor cedar]

oh u can? thats useful guess i ll just do the nobelisk route then

[feral jay]

I just implemented a container alarm - if a container runs empty, then something else gets placed on the belt, goes through a smart splitter, gets split off to a sink powered by an underclocked bioburner, and you get a tripped fuse alarm #screenshots message

neato

Basically a NOT gate in this case where SAM represents NOT iron plates

The belt needs to be saturated though, that's a bummer

So I suppose it's more of a "belt not full" alarm

[hallow mica]

could someone help me

[feral jay]

dontasktoask.com

[hallow mica]

what

bro ive been waiting for 25 minutes for someone to just say yes or no in the https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

but nb wants to help me at all

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1482257005170130996this one specifically

[feral jay]

Yeah context is key lol, I don't normally browse that channel but I'll take a look if someone posts a link here

[hallow mica]

@feral jayyea your right bro mb

[feral jay]

I made caps lock another modifier key and I activate actual caps lock by left shift+right shift

I u se caps lock for sound/media player shortcuts

Or mic mute and stuff like that

[jagged nymph]

like bottle caps ?

[magic sinew]

what should i put on foundations

[jagged nymph]

? everything

[magic sinew]

ok

so i gotta dismantle everything ive placed and put it on foundations

[jagged nymph]

no

but build all your new stuff on foundations

[magic sinew]

why not my old stuff

i already dismantled it all to rearrange it

[jagged nymph]

theres no reason to rebuild it just to be on foundations

i mean you can if you want it to look good

[magic sinew]

i do

[jagged nymph]

then do it

[twin sinew]

is setting up trains in satisfactory pretty intuitive? or is this the type of thing i have to look up a khan academy video for
-note; i've worked with trains in astroneer

[crystal cedar]

No and no

[twin sinew]

fun

do you have to have seperate rails for each thing or is doing combined pretty easy

[jagged nymph]

you can have multiple trains on one rail

it takes more work though

[twin sinew]

how so?

[jagged nymph]

for the signaling and stuff

so they dont ram eachother and derail

[twin sinew]

hmmmmm

my autism didn't cover trains in great detail

[jagged nymph]

its not too bad though

[twin sinew]

I'm just not aware of how that all works is all

[jagged nymph]

yeah

just watch a youtube video on it

[twin sinew]

autismmaxing fr

[jagged nymph]

fr

[twin sinew]

beats having to run converers across poland

[real shale]

Lizard

[twin sinew]

gif no workie :[

🦎 🦎 🦎

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/urmom-gif-22801285

[twin sinew]

🦎 🦎 🦎

[crystal cedar]

No no. That's the best

[twin sinew]

ok but trains

[crystal cedar]

No power or throughput issues with belts. Simple and goat

[twin sinew]

shus

also i will NOT be having problems with power i have too much trauma from biogenerators and overcompensate now

[jagged nymph]

but trains are cooler

and if you do it right there arent throughput issues

[crystal cedar]

Yez that I agree with.

[jagged nymph]

and its not much power

[crystal cedar]

What if ur fuse blows

[jagged nymph]

then the train will stop

[crystal cedar]

Eggsactly. Belty wonty

[jagged nymph]

but the machines will stop anyway

and trains are way faster too

[crystal cedar]

Priority ps

[twin sinew]

bro if your fuse blows you got other things to be worrying about besides your belt througput

[jagged nymph]

then put your trains on the priority switch

[crystal cedar]

Fine. But belts are easier for ppl who can't wrap their head around those block thingies(me)

[twin sinew]

fair nuff

[fossil oyster]

What do you not understand about blocks

A block signal just divides a train into sections. A train section can only be occupied by one train at a time.

That is it.

[twin sinew]

huh

[jagged nymph]

it makes it so 2 trains cant be in the same section of track at the same time

so they dont urn into eachother

[twin sinew]

ok, but what be the signal thingy (how do ye do that)

[crystal cedar]

Smhow. It doesn't work for me(tried once during 0.8 and then gave up)

It says sm error iunt remeber

[jagged nymph]

then ye did it wrong

[crystal cedar]

That's why. I stick to belts.

[jagged nymph]

train better

[fossil oyster]

Then try it again, but differently. Trains are so much better than belts. I have like 100 trains in my world.

You only have to lay a track once.

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[fiery violet]

@wintry peak It's either "satisfactory calculator" or "cartograph" mod
-# #screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

and theyre cool

[silent vigil]

Im pretty sure its the interactive map

[fossil oyster]

That they are

[fiery violet]

Yeah, now I see

[twin sinew]

this tutorial awakening ancient memories, turns out i did actually do some train autism

[crystal cedar]

I have(had) multiple belt highways spanning across the map

[fossil oyster]

Yeah it's possible, of course. But you can place one set of railways across the map and it can move any item.

[magic sinew]

what do i do if i placed a foundation underground and i cant dismantle it

ok

[bleak valley]

It lives there now i guess

[magic sinew]

if i cant get it out im gonna crash out

[bleak valley]

Why

[magic sinew]

autism

i just loaded an autosave

[twin sinew]

does getting t3 power poles increase the range you can span wires

like distance between poles

the rail length is just a bit longer and its being real annoying for my rail towers

penny pinching ahh

choo choo 🗣️ 🗣️

just one or two for now

soon

mews?

ah

much yes

:3

i got that autism with the adhd nerf so i can't ever stick to something

we would get one but my dad is allergic

big sad

[alpine gazelle]

Hello all

[twin sinew]

greetings

"hello fellow earthlings"

[rustic crest]

poles have any limits? like i can js connect 4 coal generators to 1 pole and it will produce 300 MV?

[twin sinew]

yeppers

that would suck if it were true

[rustic crest]

no,no or no, yes????

[twin sinew]

no limit, do as you please

[normal orbit]

You can connect 4 to one pole. But unless you have MK2 or MK3 poles, how you gonna connect that pole to your grid?

[rustic crest]

no idea ill figure it out when i get it

[twin sinew]

yeah do three poles for 6 generators

1 to the grid and the other two

i have like 12 i think

bye bye

no

clearly i'm a gecko

i guess that was like three layers of niche refrences

mewing -> audio commonly used for that meme -> what the lyrics sound like -> "bye bye"

first railway is nearly done (one way, no collection or nothing set up)

[real shale]

Holy, 300 MV, that's a lot of volts :P

[hybrid nymph]

poles are unlimited

[ripe basin]

Funny

[distant hill]

Guess I'll need to install the experimental branch I actually haven't played in a while but I'm keen on seeing what 1.2 will have in it.

[sterile blade]

You'll still have to wait almost a week to see it though, even on EXP ^^

[distant hill]

Oh? Thought it was coming on the 17th.

[normal orbit]

three days

or 3,5 since it comes in the evening

[twin sinew]

ngl the truck is so peak
way more fun to drive than the explorer

yes i am biased

[twin hedge]

First playthrough, 30 hours in taking it steady. I decide to plan a fully optimized starter base and rebuild everything to spec. After dismantling everything I organize it into storage containers and get building. Well, wouldn't you know I haven't even got to automating reinforced iron plates and I've completely run out of them from all the mk2 belts running across the map.

Tldr: never delete your starter base

[twin sinew]

gulp

i may or may not have taken my copper production apart and not put it back together

[twin hedge]

Glad I'm not alone

[twin sinew]

it was for a good cause (motors)

[sterile blade]

Yes, I just couldn't be bothered with the exact numbers 😅
My worry was that you might had been thinking it was out already on EXP ^^

[twin hedge]

Also genuine question: can you delete your space elevator and get everything back? It's kind of in the way now haha

[twin sinew]

i can slap something together using my old cable setup probably

yeah but i believe you gotta put the stuff in again

[twin hedge]

Okay thanks, that's not too bad

[sterile blade]

The only thing that ever gets deleted when you dismantle something are the fluids the buildings might have had in them

[twin hedge]

Awesome thanks guys. Gotta say coming from factorio, I thought I'd find the FPS perspective really frustrating (I do) but this game has really hooked me. Having a blast

[real shale]

Sushi guru

[real shale]

Do you have your coffee cup yet

[twin hedge]

Haha. I keep passing up on it for architecture. Should really just belt my excess to the sink but I'm in a bit of a deficit right now

[sterile blade]

(Some context at: #satisfactory message)

[real shale]

If you are early enough in the game quickwire is a good item to sink early

Because you can make so much of it at once

[twin sinew]

oh i should do that

i kinda have a whole quickwire setup just sitting around

[sterile blade]

If it ain't storing or sinking, it's wasting!

[twin hedge]

I haven't got to quickwire yet.... I think

[twin hedge]

Screw storage is full, might just belt that

[real shale]

You should, there's a whole research tree dedicated to quickwire/caterium

[sterile blade]

Leading to the best splitters there are, for the best logistics there are 🍣
(Totally objective and unbiased opinionfact)

[real shale]

I saw the "are you a racist" message because it sent me there first and I was like "what kinda context is that?"

[real shale]

Programmable splitters?

[twin hedge]

Is that smart splitters?

[twin sinew]

ya

[sterile blade]

Almost

[twin sinew]

well technically

[real shale]

Programmable splitters my beloved

[sterile blade]

Smarter Splitter

[real shale]

People often say "why use programmable splitters, they arent very useful"

To those people I say, aesthetics and because I feel like it

Programmable splitter just looks better

[sterile blade]

Well, there is like... One single feature that Programmable Splitters have and can't be replicated with "just" a few smart/normal splitters and mergers...

So I kinda get the "urgh, too little better compared to smart splitter" sentiment :/

[gentle lava]

how do i split 120 into 67.5 and 52.5?

[sterile blade]

They just need a little top-hat and they would then feel really classy

[sterile blade]

You can let it overflow or build a balancer for it... The latter would likely require more than a dozen logistical pieces, as that doesn't look like a number easy to balance

[next ivy]

With a splitter

[twin sinew]

i would reccomend just splitting them half and half, then making the constructor/whatever intake requirements exact

should eventually balance out

[sterile blade]

Aka "overflow"

[smoky flame]

W-What if instead of dismantling mode, you get a tool mode that allows you select buildings like dismantling mode but instead it's a nudge mode and you can move things en masse

[twin sinew]

that would be really nice actually

but i believe the practical solution is blueprints

[gentle lava]

can i just use a splitter to split it into two conveyers and then remerge them for the 67.5?

and use the third for the 52.5

[next ivy]

Youre not forced to use all outputs of the splitter

[twin sinew]

would be 60/30

[gentle lava]

ik im asking if it would work, but from what geico said it wouldnt

[next ivy]

It would

But theres no real improvement

All youve done is prioritize one side

[gentle lava]

thanks for pointing that out

wait i cant just overclock or under cloc

easy stuff

[dense violet]

1 splitter would also do the job

unless one side is going to a sink?

[gentle lava]

to give u a idea im tryna mae 5 modular frames a min

so u can see on the satisfactory tool

[dense violet]

sure. 1 splitter then

[gentle lava]

wouldnt that make it 60/30

[dense violet]

what happens when 1 side fills up?

[gentle lava]

hm

[dense violet]

same concept as a regular manifold that has only 1 process on it, except this has multiple processes

[gentle lava]

i have no idea what you jst said

[dense violet]

ok this evenly feeds 120 ore pm to these 4 machiens https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1456102935988539496/image.png?ex=69b61109&is=69b4bf89&hm=6aca7ba3d912561835bed91bab7895ce02fa3747ac374262ecb33c3d23fe2c6f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

do you understand why?

[gentle lava]

Kinda? but where would i put the splitter

[dense violet]

for your example? wherever you would want to split the 2 lines from each other

hell, you could set it up just like my image I linked you just have all the machines that use X part in a line

[dense violet]

manifolds, belts that rely on feeding and overflowing parts to the next machine, only care about 2 things

1. at least enough parts per min on the belt for all the processes that need them
2. a fast enough belt for it

so you could have 1 belt feeding a part to 17 different machines making 17 different parts , and it'll self balance as long as those 2 criteria are met

[gentle lava]

Ye

😭

[dense violet]

whats wrong

[gentle lava]

im confused bro its my first run 🥀

[dense violet]

no stress, past a link or image of what you're working on in #math-and-meta and I'll take you step by step

[gentle lava]

im learning

wdym like the satisfactory tool or like my ingame wha it loos lie

[dense violet]

the tools plan

[gentle lava]

Kk

[twin sinew]

is there any reason to make packaged liquid biofuel besides being able to make better fuel out of random plants

[peak wasp]

does freight cars need to be in loop to be loaded?

[normal orbit]

packaged liquid biofuel is a very good jetpack fuel early on

in loop?

[peak wasp]

like the loader doesnt load the train cars, ive electricity there shoudlnt be any directional issues

[normal orbit]

are you driving manually?

[peak wasp]

yes i have just 2 stations facing each other

[normal orbit]

facing each other sounds wrong, but if you're driving you need to put the locomotive in the correct place and press F when the prompt shows

[versed mesa]

3 days until 1.2 drops on Exp

[dense violet]

jet pack?

[twin sinew]

yeah but like i can make regular fuel easier

[peak wasp]

does propmt show up while in train?

[normal orbit]

yes

[dense violet]

Not sure what you're asking honsetly. Other fuel can be automated?

a lot of people prefer liquid bio fuel over regular fuel for jet packs

[twin sinew]

just wondering if its better in some way i don't see

[normal orbit]

its better in the jetpack

[twin sinew]

i see

to what degree?

[normal orbit]

every degree, burn time, distance, height

[twin sinew]

hmmmm

how long until i can get something better?

[normal orbit]

tier 9 kinda

[dense violet]

!wikisearch jet pack

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=jet+pack

[twin sinew]

TIER NINE?

[dense violet]

depends on what you consider 'better' , a lot of people prefer regular fuel since it's automated

[dense violet]

no? there's multiple fuels before then

[twin sinew]

lies then

[dense violet]

look at the link if you want spoilers

[normal orbit]

kinda, other fuels are fuel, turbo fuel and rocket fuel. they all have drawbacks to biofuel, rocket fuel has advantage of height. at tier 9 you egt ionized fuel which is just an overall upgrade.

[peak wasp]

ok ive completed the loop and still dont get promp to load the cars 😭

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with overhead images of what you're doing

[normal orbit]

you need to stop exaktly where station is to get the prompt

[dense violet]

it's often very difficult to diagnose issues without lots of images

[twin sinew]

i guess i don't really have an excuse to avoid it, i have a whole solid biofuel thing setup already

[normal orbit]

its easier t just let it self drive

[peak wasp]

ok posting

[dense violet]

also, just automate your trains.

they'll stop on their own if it's built right.

[real shale]

Technically you can get ionised fuel before tier 9 and even before you unlock particle accelerators albeit.......why would you do that with the finite power shards

[normal orbit]

i buy some from awesome shop :p

[deft drum]

Ionized fuel is also barely more net power and eats up a large amount of quartz

[normal orbit]

its for jetpack not power generation

[deft drum]

Oh yeah fair enough there

[deft drum]

Wait, how can you get time crystals before tier 9?

[real shale]

You don't need time crystals, you just use regular shards