satisfactory

[fossil oyster]

I hope they change Ficsonium recipes around in 1.2, but probably not

[normal orbit]

the goal was to make 60 gens per ring, and clock em according to have 2 rings for Nuclear, 2 rings for plutonium and one for ficsonium

so i kinda very much misjudged the size :D

[past dune]

https://tenor.com/view/please-no-no-super-troopers-gif-16103463

please no..

[fossil oyster]

Why not?

Ficsonium is terrible

[normal orbit]

terrible for what?

[fossil oyster]

Resource consumption

[normal orbit]

sam cost, yes, but thats about it

[past dune]

Cause I just finished maxing it out this week... it's all perfect and working 100% efficiency

[fossil oyster]

Yeah, SAM cost that is

[past dune]

I'd be ok, if they reduce SAM cost..

[fossil oyster]

Like, people are forced to sloop their builds just because of the insane amount of SAM it costs

[normal orbit]

yea, drop the trigons from 100/min to like 75 or even 50 would be nice

[past dune]

right now im using 100% of all SAM for ficsonium and Alien Power Matrices

[fossil oyster]

What are you building?

[past dune]

I'm at 7.1 Terawatts right now

[past dune]

The most wattage possible in a vanilla map..

After that, it will be the most Sinkable points, with what's left on the map..

[rain wedge]

majority power from?

[fossil oyster]

Eh, you won't have much left on the map

100% nuclear

700 GW from uranium
350 GW from plutonium
175 GW from ficsonium

[rain wedge]

those factory that produce rod = have OC or no OC 🤔

maybe i have to legit remake my nuclear setup lmao

[fossil oyster]

What?

[normal orbit]

overclocking just reduce machine count

if you mean slooping rods, i would not recommend, but you can do it if you wish, just gonna be a pain to deal with the waste

[rain wedge]

reuse reduce and recycle ykyk 🤣

[past dune]

aye.. already using:

100%

Sam
uranium
nitrogen (will be 100% after current fuel gen build)
coal (will be 100% after current fuel gen build)
sulfur (will be 100% after current fuel gen build)

90+%

bauxite
crystal

might be forgetting some, getting tired 🙂

[normal orbit]

slooping all steps to uranium rods and then all steps to plutonium rods would make so much waste you needed basically a new container for it every 6 minutes

[scenic mirage]

did yall know when you're applying swatches you can press G to only apply to specific buildings

[normal orbit]

yes, it also works with dismantling to only dismantle one type of item

there is a G for filter in the ui :)

[scenic mirage]

ye i only knew ab the dismantle one

[past dune]

same

[reef basin]

You are not forced tho, it's your choice

[past dune]

Technically I cant sloop anything, since I'm using 10x alien power boosters. and doing a full vanilla build..

correct me if I'm wrong, but at vanilla, theres 10 sloops max ?

[normal orbit]

106, 3 used in mam, so 103 to use

[past dune]

it takes 10 per alien boosters then?

[normal orbit]

yep

[ornate saffron]

this leaves you 3 sloops. May i suggest using them for screws

[next ivy]

i wonder what a good way to add more production is with this
meteors maybe ?

[past dune]

soo.. 3 sloops i could use to make more power... hmmmm.. wondering where I should use em to make the most wattage. outta them 3..

[fossil oyster]

Yes, you are forced.

[next ivy]

because of what

[past dune]

If you can, you must! 🙂

[normal orbit]

plutonium rods would prob make most power

sloop 1,5 assemblers :p

[reef basin]

By what?

[fossil oyster]

By the need to recycle all the waste.

[past dune]

1,5 ? explain.. I get to use 3 sloops.. whats the 5?

[reef basin]

Make less waste

[fossil oyster]

Assemblers take 2 sloops

[fossil oyster]

That's not an argument

[reef basin]

It is

[normal orbit]

one and a half, one assembler takes 2 sloops, so you can double one of them, and put the last sloop in another assember to be 1/2 to get 50% more

[reef basin]

You aren't forced to make most waste possible

[fossil oyster]

If you want to use all the uranium on the map, you are forced to use sloops if you want to do a full cycle

[normal orbit]

you can also refine more waste to get less plutonium

[reef basin]

No, you can use less uranium efficient recipes

[fossil oyster]

You can also turn off your computer and touch grass.

[ornate saffron]

to simplify no one is being forced to make nuclear waste. there is other power options. if you min max all the nuclear in the game it is not likely anyone is going to need that level of power generation.

If you want big numbers Cool. you do you. But no one is forcing you to do this

[past dune]

So if I sloop 1 assembler with 2 sloops, and 2nd with 1... does it require more ressources to manufacture the rods?

[normal orbit]

no just get more rods

[reef basin]

And even wasteless setups using all uranium can be make sloopless

[past dune]

ohhh.. sexyness

[normal orbit]

yes, you can use the default recipes and make approximately a third of the power or so :)

[compact peak]

Hey hey yall, I'm having a very frustrating issue and wondering if yall have encountered this before

[reef basin]

And still is more power than you'll need

[normal orbit]

debatable

[fossil oyster]

Nah, I would run out of power.

[normal orbit]

if you're making a nuclear plant with the intent to use all uranium, you probably have rather large power demands

[past dune]

is it better, to use 1 sloop each on 3 assemblers for the plutonium rods? or 2 & 1 like previously mentioned?

[compact peak]

So I previously had constructed a minor on a bauxite oresite super far away and constructed a floating platform and a belt across the map and it provided or just fine since having to run back and add a more stable power solution i can now not get any ore to move from either the minor or the new belt section to an existing belt section

[normal orbit]

would be same. 3x 50% or 1x 100% + 1x 50% is same total gain

[past dune]

cool ty

[zenith pecan]

My power demands are rising sharply with the likes of particle accelerators & converters springing up everywhere.

[ornate saffron]

is the miner powered'?

[compact peak]

more than enough

[reef basin]

The player is the one who made the decision to:

• use all uranium
• use recipes that save uranium and plutonium
• comllain not enough resources are there to do that

[compact peak]

tried mk 1 and mk2

diferent directionsdiferent mk belts

[reef basin]

You also don't need to use just base recipes 🙂

[fossil oyster]

It's a valid complaint

[compact peak]

What's incredibly frustrating is if I construct a new belt from The Miner the Ore will leave the minor and travel along the new section of belt but will not snap onto the old existing Belt Line

[reef basin]

It's as valid as "there's not enough sulfur to do max leached iron build"

[ornate saffron]

You have already tried to deconstruct and rebuild the belt.

in doing so did the miner out put to the first section after rebuilding?

[normal orbit]

usually means your old existing belt line is going wrong way

[unkempt blade]

I think the "used evenly across 3 machines" options would be a little less power used

[compact peak]

Everything was working fine until I lost power because ran out of the first initial supply of bio mass fuel

[past dune]

thats a weird bug... are you using any mods?

[compact peak]

Even just refueling the biomass burner without any changes whatsoever didn't work

No stock model

[ornate saffron]

We can talk about why you are using biomass when on Bauxite later lol

[past dune]

wait? biomass burner.. wont burn ore....

[compact peak]

It was super far away from the base there was radioactive pigs and spiders everywhere I just put down power and f****** ran okay i panicked i figured I'd come back and fix the power situation later lol

[zenith pecan]

I've had wrong direction belts snap occasionally, this happens #design-and-architecture message

[ornate saffron]

did i miss the response to this?

#satisfactory message

[compact peak]

Yeah but remember literally just walked up put biomass in the burner and the or wouldn't move on the pre-configured line that worked perfectly fine no changes whatsoever

[normal orbit]

thats new :p

[past dune]

what are you trying to burn in the biomass burner... as far as I know, theres no nodes that you can mine and feed into a biomass burner...

[compact peak]

It's as if just losing power caused this entire thing to just have a technical glitch that's not repairable

Solid biofuel I've never had an issue with it whatsoever

There's more than enough power

[ripe basin]

Good morning people

[past dune]

solid biofuel node? you using the mod to give you the node for it?

[ornate saffron]

at this point i recommend making a post in #1038092680493801533 as this is becoming complex

[compact peak]

No I harvested myself and create the solid biomass I'm not using any mods or anything completely original game

[next ivy]

so biomass burner is full, and you have more than enough power ?

[ornate saffron]

morning

how fairs your factory this morning?.

whats on the factory agenda?

[compact peak]

The minor at zero overclock is only drawing 15 megawatts I've tried overclocking both the minor and the burner and nothing

But also the minor does power up when connected and it fills up its internal reservoir of 100 units and then it stops

[past dune]

Miner? you can't mine solid biofuel... im confused...

[compact peak]

I am mining a bauxite ore node

[ripe basin]

Im too stupid to understand, sorry

[compact peak]

Powering it with a biomass burner for temporary power until I get the power lines run over here

[past dune]

Bauxite is used to make aluminium and silica.

[ornate saffron]

how is your game of satisfactory progressing. What are you working on ^_^

[ripe basin]

Im trying to play SF+
But im stuck at brass and steel

Because fluids

[compact peak]

Yeah I literally brought this belt to my base set up my refineries for aluminum and as I was going to go back and establish permanent power this happened

[ornate saffron]

SF+ can be tough. You really need to master vanilla to get the most out of it without pulling your hair out

[normal orbit]

if you step on the belt, are you moved towards or away from miner?

[compact peak]

Sorry I don't mean to blow up general chat if that's the case here is somebody able to help me like in a voice Channel or a different chat

[past dune]

I suggest establishing a stable power source... Biofuel, isn't stable, since you have to constantly refill it manually..

start with a coal Generator section.

[compact peak]

Yes the belts themselves are functional

[normal orbit]

functional doesnt answer question tho

[compact peak]

My main base is powered by both fuel generators and cold generators

This was just incredibly far away when I found it

[ripe basin]

I mean everything is not that bad. . . Yet
I can do basic math and everything but you cant say i "Mastered" vanilla, i just wanted to try something new

[compact peak]

Oh I'm sorry yes standing on the Belt moves me away from the minor towards its destination

Intended destination I should say

[ornate saffron]

pretty sure there is a calculater for SF+ dont know the link though

[elfin smelt]

did you like, tried rebuilding the first belt section

[normal orbit]

then you havnt connected the belt properly to the miner if its not outputting its inventory

[elfin smelt]

very common issue

[ripe basin]

I just dont want to rebuild everything at my factory only because i have to add 2 more miners for steel

[compact peak]

So I feel like everyone's missing the point that i had this built powered and supplying or across the map fully functionally for like the past couple hours

[normal orbit]

most likely connected to a pole inside the miner

[compact peak]

And suddenly when going back to turn on the biomass burner that ran out of fuel none of this works anymore

[normal orbit]

are you wearing a hover pack?

[compact peak]

No I'm wearing the jetpack since I don't have established power lines out here

[ornate saffron]

have you deleted the belt connected to the miner then rebuilt it from the miner as the starting point?

[compact peak]

yes

[normal orbit]

so miner has power, and its inventory is full, but nothing going out on the belt?

[compact peak]

as well as several other configs

diferent mk miners

belts

into and out of storage

[normal orbit]

when you replace miner with diffrent type you need to reconnect the power to it

[compact peak]

it just does not want to push ore onto my original belt line

yes

[ornate saffron]

it is not likely you will find a solution here at this point. I would suggest the offical Q and A site

[compact peak]

its powered

[elfin smelt]

I really feel the solution is something real silly

[compact peak]

I mean worst case story here I'm just going to end up having to reconstruct this entire Beltline this just took so long earlier cuz it's quite literally halfway across the entire map from my established space

[normal orbit]

posting some pics would help in #1038092680493801533

[compact peak]

Oh yeah I wasn't sure if I was allowed to post pictures yet

[normal orbit]

not in this channel

its what questions and help is for

[ripe basin]

I dont usually use calculators
I used them twice in my life
For supercomputers and for something else

[compact peak]

Sounds good I'll move my crying and screaming over there thanks for your help so far!

Sorry to blow up General chat!

[ornate saffron]

fair, im big on my own math too,

how is sf+

ive heard there is a lot of screws lol

[compact peak]

Last little tidbit cuz i thought I had a genius idea that didn't work either I snapped a belt merger further down along my original line ran a new belt over to that and snapped into the merger and the ore travels down the belt and stops at the merger and will not go any further

I'm going to scream this is so frustrating lol

[rocky prawn]

Do SAM deposits still exist (not the miners nodes, the small hand mined chunks that dont respawn)

[ripe basin]

Yeah there is a lot of screws
You need them for a lot of things

[compact peak]

Not that I've seen I've only seen the nodes or various piles of it around crash sites

[next ivy]

wait wa

[ornate saffron]

no

[simple pebble]

screws are the least of your concerns in SF+ tbh

tinned wire is my bane when it comes to early game resources

But if you like convoluted planning and really tight organization, SF+ is really fun and rewarding. It devours time like nothing else, though

The biggest burden with SF+ is that just getting ingots is more work than producing parts

(Uness you put smelter modules on your miners, but they have their own drawbacks)

[void cliff]

We all love solving problems. It’s somehow coded in our DNA

[fossil oyster]

Why don't Ficsonium fuel rods burn in vehicles >:(

[void cliff]

No. I ignore that problem

[proven snow]

Gotta make a bunch of problems in order to later have the joy of cleaning up after them

[void cliff]

I wish it was my FT job and paid the bills lol

[ornate saffron]

my mind set do whats easy. Future Beefalo can ficsit, F that guy!

[void cliff]

I do some testing on the side for free 😄

[ornate saffron]

does #satisfactory-experimental count?

If so i do not do testing on the wside for free

[void cliff]

I think it counts if you’re actively reporting bugs, etc.

[buoyant sonnet]

there is this thing in my save that dismantle crates don't pop up i lost like 6 summersloops already, where can i report bugs?

[fossil oyster]

Yeah...they will be SOMEWHERE on the map...good luck finding them though

[next ivy]

theyre marked on your map

all dismantles go to the same crate in a like 1km radius

so check your existing dismantle crates, they likely have 100 lines of random shit

[white dawn]

What Henir said. They'll show up on your map/compass, so should be findable.

Though if you ever do want to report bugs (or suggest features and such) the Questions site is the place to do it:

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[white dawn]

I seem to think you can turn off the auto-dismantle-crate-combining thing in settings, btw

Though I suspect most folks grow to like having them combined

[void cliff]

If you can’t reach the crate you can use SCIM to move the crate, IIRC. Or just use the SCIM to give you stuff you think you lost

[zenith pecan]

True that, having 100 crates with individual random pieces after a demolition can be maddening.

[proven snow]

Was the crate merging added in 1.0 or something? I'm only accustomed to the 1000 crates after dismantling

[white dawn]

Yeah, either 1.0 or 1.1

[fossil oyster]

You can "remove" (relocate) waste as well this way. Put it in storage, make sure your inventory is full and dismantle

[neat plank]

Become Twitch Streamer. Profit.

[ornate saffron]

that went well for thor of Pirate software 😛

[neat plank]

I mean modern streaming is a lot like gambling. A lot of people try, few win.

And you have to put equivalent effort to the winners to even try.

I will say I wouldn't mind streaming my Satisfactory building as a hobby.

[fossil oyster]

Very few win

[normal orbit]

pretty much gotta be in the top 0.1% to succeed

[fossil oyster]

We don't really know how vehicles are being updated in 1.2 do we ?

[normal orbit]

just that road vehicles are less likely to have issues

[fossil oyster]

Goodie

[pale tree]

depends on your goal tbh

[ornate saffron]

Lots of bug fixes coming. Tbh thats my greatest reason to hyp 1.2

[pale tree]

if your goal is just to have several people watching you every time you stream then thats not that hard

as a career though yeah 0.1%

[fossil oyster]

Please fix drones so that they do not freeze midair anymore

[proven snow]

I just want to see this new gamemode.

Plus although I don't think most people care that much, I'm kinda curious about liquid transport trucks. Trucks are pretty fun to play around with

[ornate saffron]

I have obs installed. Amd i have streamed to twitch. BUT im not a streamer. I literally just did a single playthrough of original ff7 so a bunch of free company (ffxiv version of clans or guilds) could experience it. We all just hung out talked about ff on steam as I played

I have not streamed since

[ornate saffron]

That was mentioned on the latest stream as a thing that has been fixed for 1.2

[fossil oyster]

Oh really? Nice! I had up to 150 drones and like every 15 minutes or so one (or several) would just freeze mid air and I would have to reload the save, it was terrible

[normal orbit]

ye

mikael mentioned it

[white dawn]

I fortunately only ever ran into that once, but given that it was the backbone of my nuclear power it was always a bit worrying. :D

[fossil oyster]

Yeah I had drones for my uranium and nitrogen in my nuclear plant. I've had dozens of nuclear disasters because freezing drones. Finally said enough is enough and remade all of them with trains

[inner ruin]

Choo choo

[proven snow]

150 drones does sound like a lot

[ornate saffron]

Also the hoverpack power glitch fixed

[fossil oyster]

That one was weird. But you could "fix" it by just equipping your jetpack and then equipping your hover pack again

[white dawn]

Ooh, was that mentioned specifically? Or just you hoping that that's among their fixes? :D

[tall lantern]

mentioned specifically

[white dawn]

\o/

[ornate saffron]

It was mentioned specifically

[white dawn]

<burns>Eeeexcelent.</burns>

Now I don't have to choose between PPS and Hoverpack!

[real shale]

Hello chat

[ornate saffron]

Ya, it was the first time since hearing about 1.2 i was like f@#$ ya

[tall lantern]

lol same

[ornate saffron]

Hello pioneer

[real shale]

Hello Universal Serial Beefalo

[ornate saffron]

I see you like factories.

[real shale]

I am that dedicated to FICSIT I legally changed my name to Pioneer

[ornate saffron]

I do to.... as long as I am not being processed

[white dawn]

Hopefully the pause-node weirdness with vehicle routes is among their vehicle fixes; will be nice to not have to qualify my sugarcube recommendations so much. :)

[real shale]

Maybe we will get traffic lights! (No we won't)

[proven snow]

Seems to me like they're gonna be fixing some truck stuff

[fossil oyster]

This happens to me too. They just....stand still

[white dawn]

Yeah, at the moment, if you ever end up with a blue pause node, you'd want to delete it right away

Fortunately tractors don't get stuck at yellow pause nodes, though if you load a save which had a vehicle parked at a yellow pause node, the vehicle does kind of freak out for a few seconds before getting back on its route properly

[fossil oyster]

I'm a maniac. My nuclear plant has sugarcubes delivering and picking up fuel rods and waste

[white dawn]

Even with the current weirdness IMO vehicles can be pretty easily built out to 100% reliability

[fossil oyster]

Well, yeah, but they are very yanky

[proven snow]

Once you start only using belts inside factories and have all the other transport with trucks and trains, the game gets to be a lot of fun for me

[white dawn]

I tend to have vehicle routes in pretty important roles as well (though I admit that lategame it's gotta be a pretty specific circumstance for me to put in a vehicle route; trains + drones are real hard to argue with unless the distance is pretty short)

[ornate saffron]

I have two factory carts on routes. They perform well. 10/10 i suggest using them

[white dawn]

Yeah, I love using all the logistics options, honestly

[fossil oyster]

Trains and drones are just so much "better" than road vehicles

As in, setting them up

Drones feel like cheating to me sometimes lol

[white dawn]

I love that shot of your nuke plants though; honestly pretty great idea using sugarcubes to collect that waste. Belting for nuke sites is always a bit annoying

[fossil oyster]

I stopped using them because of the freeze bug

[white dawn]

I still wish that the waste output on nuclear plants was around the back or something

[ornate saffron]

Jokes aside, the best part of trucks and tractors is the lack of infrastructure needed. Fuel source is the only thing really needed.

[fossil oyster]

Yeah thanks, I actually had a working nuclear facility that I just completely reworked into this setup with vehicles

And I must say I've had a ton of issues getting them to work just right

[proven snow]

Drones did feel kinda cheaty to me at first, but I think they have some pretty significant drawbacks too

I will say one unintentionally self-induced handicap I had with drones was using only batteries for powering them. I have lately found out that they can use other fuel too

[fossil oyster]

Like, I used to have 8 vehicles for the 128 plants (16 reactors per vehicle). It got too crowded and they would just crash/freeze/not deliver stuff/whatever.

[proven snow]

Trucks are very nice in Dune Desert imo

[fossil oyster]

It was a disaster. Then I reworked the routes a bit and now I only have 5 and it seems to work just fine

[ornate saffron]

I only really use coal, fuel and rocket fuel.

I did use rods for a bit

166 hours in a truck for a single plutonium rod. No waste

[fossil oyster]

I used plutonium rods in my vehicles at first, but I didn't like the radiation mess

[proven snow]

In my next run where I'm gonna do local power for each factory, I think I'm gonna use a lot of fluid trucks to bring water or fuel to factories for coal/fuel power generators

[ornate saffron]

Nothing is a better reminder to restock filters then a drone flying over head

[fossil oyster]

Local power wowzers, that's wild

[proven snow]

Yea, feels a bit unrealistic / easy to me to just make one power plant and then transmit that power through a thin line across the map with no issues

[white dawn]

Yeah, v1.0 introduced using multiple fuels for drones; prior to that it was battery-only. Batteries are still a decent fuel for drones, though in a lot of cases the other options will be more convenient

[ornate saffron]

Its a good way to figure average power needs.

[white dawn]

I keep meaning to try and test that; do rod-fuelled drones actually emit radiation as they move around?

[ornate saffron]

As fair as I remember yes

Its been a while

[fossil oyster]

Yes

[white dawn]

The fuel that drones consume gets immediately converted into a more abstract "energy" value in the drone data itself, so the drone doesn't actually carry rods (unless they're in the cargo). But the data does remember which fuel type provided the energy, and has a knowledge of which energy source it's currently drawing from

(Obviously the ports themselves would carry radiation from any rods still in the fuel hopper)

[ornate saffron]

Do drones only take the fuel required for a trip? Or is there a internal storage slot you cannot interact with

[normal orbit]

afaik they have an internal energy storage , and just refill it for a single round trip

[white dawn]

They take enough for the full round trip (and interestingly on their first trip out, if there's enough fuel in the hopper, they'll take more than they need; about 1.5 trips worth)

As they ingest fuel, as I say, it immediately gets converted to a more abstract "energy" -- it doesn't actually store any fuel item in there

But they do remember where the energy came from

[weak bloom]

Iodine filters are so awkward to produce x_x

[fossil oyster]

Just don't automate them

[weak bloom]

I might at least automate gas filters but even that is kinda awkward because of the low quantities and dragging a bit of iron over

[proven snow]

Hmm, they're fine for me. Just grab a few stacks of each resource I need from my factories

[weak bloom]

Yeah I mean to automate

But I guess I can just craft a storage bin of them, toss a depot on it, and forget for a few hundred hours

[proven snow]

Yeah I've never tried automating them

I don't come across a ton of radiation

[void cliff]

They barely use any resources at steady state. Easy to set up in any steel plant

[real shale]

I automated iodine filters and they weren't too bad

For the complete ease of mind it gives me to have an infinite supply of iodine filters working with nuclear, it was worth it

[normal orbit]

a feature it could pull filters from depots would be nice, but not a huge deal

[weak bloom]

Issue for me is honestly making the gas mask tbh lol. Crater lake is using all the oil byproducts already including polymer resin for rubber for other things I'm making there.
I'm making petroleum coke at the aluminum plant on the gold coast so I can easily send some to fabric there, and siphon a bit of extra coal from the aluminum line, but I have no iron at that factory at all

[real shale]

My crater lake has some resin left but I am NOT touching it because it is the danger resin

[weak bloom]

Guess I can just ship the fabric somewhere else but that feels like a waste of a train car or a drone or something

[proven snow]

Logistics is never a waste

[weak bloom]

So yeah I'll probably just grab stacks from somewhere and hand feed enough to fill a storage bin

48 stacks of iodine filters should last me forever

[real shale]

I am scared of messing up the resin logistics for the HOR refineries that connect directly to my fuel and causing a massive shutdown event

[fossil oyster]

I just manually make them once every dozens of hours or something

[weak bloom]

For me I have my resin going to make 80 rubber and I think I have like 40 or so overflowing to a sink, so I could use that for fabric, but I'm also afraid to mess with anything touching the fuel line lol

[fossil oyster]

Slap a few manufacturers and storage containers together, insert some sloops, BAM

[ornate saffron]

Automated filters are a nice to have though

[weak bloom]

Yeah

[real shale]

Yeah no, I understand completely, I accidentally deleted a power line powering an oil extractor for like 2 seconds and lost 15 GW

LOL

I didn't think 2 seconds would have that big of an impact but fluids proved me wrong yet again

[fossil oyster]

I deleted a powerline by accident and suddenly my 1200 sulfur wasn't being delivered so instead of processing 2800 uranium waste/min I was processing like...400

[proven snow]

@pastel tiger Better than anything I've made in my 500 hours tbh
#screenshots message

[fossil oyster]

And since I am using truck stations and train stations to deliver waste, I didn't even realize until all the buffers were full. I have like 100k waste stored in these buffers

[real shale]

Also I am in love with my new transformer blueprint, man I want to place them everywhere I go

[pastel tiger]

thx ❤️
gtnh and factorio for thier 1500 hours tought me how to build

[ornate saffron]

I made a support structure for power towers on wet surfaces. I really like how it turned out. Its simple but a nice visual bump

[real shale]

It's beautiful my autistic electricity over focused brain is proud of it

I really wish that round concrete could be painted

Or there was a round metal beam

Having rectangular busbars looks....odd

[ornate saffron]

Pictures?

[real shale]

Of the transformer?

#design-and-architecture message

[ornate saffron]

Ya you hyping it. Time to shownitnoff

[real shale]

1.2 will make the design slightly better when t junctions drop

Because I have no way of making the conservator tank connection from the main tank look not sticky outy

[ornate saffron]

I like it. Been thinking of ways to house priority switches. Its good inspiration

[real shale]

This transformer splits the HV side and LV/tert side when it trips

If I had round metal beams I could go all out and design a fully fledged substation

[whole robin]

Can i get through the entirety of late game with just one aluminum plant using 2 pure bauxite nodes?

[fossil oyster]

Sure.

[real shale]

You can, nothing stopping you but you might be bottlenecked in terms of production rates since aluminium is used for several late game items

[rancid turret]

2 pure bauxite nodes will get you 2400, more than enough to automate everything at modest amounts

[real shale]

2400 assuming you are already phase 5 and have Mk6 belts

[rancid turret]

it's planning for the end game where you can upgrade to those

[real shale]

Casings are the main problem child honestly

[white dawn]

You can technically get through the entirety of the game with only one machine of each type. Just keep flipping the recipes around and hand-feeding. :)

[real shale]

Me with my hands out to grab the nitrogen gas to feed into my blender :P

[white dawn]

Better than the sulfuric acid!

[wise isle]

im making a new save to satisfactory and im gonna plan my factory first before i make it

[fossil oyster]

Is there any other way?

[vale tinsel]

Yeah just build... Realise you did an Ooops and rebuild everything once more 🤣

[normal orbit]

There's my way :p oh I got this and that. I'll just make the mcguffin and thingamabob with it

[vale tinsel]

Absolutely 😄

And always forget almost half the material you need. Thats mandatory 😄

[weak bloom]

Can hand feed a packager with packaged gas at least

[real shale]

I will hand feed you into the blender, whatever that means

[vale tinsel]

[fossil oyster]

Re-working an existing factory instead of building a new one actually takes so much longer

[reef basin]

build more, keep old

[chilly agate]

hi does anyone know what to do when it says a point of a number on the calculator for machines such as 4.3 do i place 4 and overclock them by .3 or just use 5

[weak bloom]

I'm kinda mixed on this approach tbh.
I'm bringing a ton of resources over to my factory in the plains but a lot of it is 240 belts out of impure and normal nodes, so now that I have the mk3 miners and mk5 belts I can get a lot more out of those nodes. But if I want to keep my current factory operational, that would mean having a giant logistics depot at the train station where I overflow split every single belt to maintain the current factory and split off the extra resources to use on new stuff...
At that point I'd probably rather just redo the entire factory to use the extra resources fully

[next ivy]

for the first example you would place 5 and underclock the last one to .3

or just place 5 at 100%

[weak bloom]

I made that one before I started properly planning for how to expand factories to upgraded miners and belts. So either I'll just leave it alone and not use the extra resources or rework the whole thing.

[chilly agate]

Thank you ive been trying to wrap my head around it

[next ivy]

i mean, theres at least 3 variations

you could also place 9 machines and underclock them all by like 50%

[weak bloom]

If you're using tools you can hover over the box and it'll show you like "5 machines at 100% and 1 at 33.33%" or whatever

[chilly agate]

oh i didnt even know it did that

[weak bloom]

Personally I take the overall number and figure out my own clock ratio for a more "round" number of machines, but that's just me lol, I like to have nice blocks of machines.
If something says 8.88 machines I'd rather use 8 and overclock, or 10 and underclock a couple, for example, rather than 9

[real shale]

You could also place 18 and underclock it to 25

Or 32 and underclock by 12.5

You know what, screw it, underclock them all to 1% the more machines the better

[fossil oyster]

Your computer and FPS beg to differ

[weak bloom]

Now we're talking, cover the land in a carpet of refineries

[real shale]

My computer is pretty strong

[weak bloom]

Satisfactory is the first and only game I've ever played on this PC that is actually making my 9800x3d work for a living

[real shale]

Well it's not that strong

[fossil oyster]

At a certain scale your PC will struggle

[real shale]

That won't DETER me

i will take the planet for EVERYTHING it has..... EVERYTHING

[crystal cedar]

Atleast u don't use ur power that much

Eficensy 👍

[glacial drum]

Do any of you personally believe the electrode scrap to be a better version of the scrap recipe? I haven’t done the math but it seems using up oil rather than coal would be a worse trade off. The only part that sounds good about it is it makes the bauxite to bars 1:1

[weak bloom]

I think it depends on where you're processing it and whether you value coal or oil more. Personally I look at the oil well full of impure nodes in the swamp and think "that's kinda garbage for any fuel or plastic setups, but it can produce plenty of petro coke"

[real shale]

Both electrode and instant have the same yield per bauxite

[real shale]

There's also the oil well in red forest where all the bauxite is

[glacial drum]

Yea it def depends on where. I just thought I’d ask peoples personal opinions and maybe try it out. Considering I’m not using every bit of oil on the map especially none in the red forest.

[glacial drum]

Ah I forgot completely about instant. good to know. That takes sulphuric acid, yes?

[real shale]

Yes

[weak bloom]

That one is next to a couple lakes and has a few pure nodes though. Imo that's more valuable for fuel or plastic/rubber. Swamp one is more out of the way but you're getting less out of it with the other petroleum products

[real shale]

Honestly, you can produce like 5400 coke/min from that node and with how much oil there is on the map, you won't be stripped for it since there's plenty along the coasts

[weak bloom]

At least I'm planning to bring about half the bauxite along with coal to the gold coast and use the normal recipe there, and the rest of the bauxite to the swamp and use electrode scrap there

[real shale]

5400/min coke is more than enough to do you for multiple projects that need it

[glacial drum]

I’m thinking of taking all of the bauxite in the red forest and mega processing it tbh

[weak bloom]

That also puts all my aluminum production at two factories on the east and west sides of the world and that works out nicely for distribution. But same can be said for the red forest so that's fair

[fossil oyster]

Do it.

[glacial drum]

I feel at that point it would make sense to take all of the bauxite on the map, though.

[fossil oyster]

Do it!

[void cliff]

Gotta make some aluminum screws 😄

[glacial drum]

Also I just realized how much power I’m wasting considering I use some of a node on the east coast to make NRF but I don’t use any of the other ones. I could be making turbo fuel using the byproduct of compacted coal from nitro rocket and then making the rest into diluted fuel

However I’m barely scratching half my power capacity if even that.

[weak bloom]

I'm making packaged turbofuel out of the byproduct of my nitro line and will probably use it for drones

[fossil oyster]

Does the game suffer from a memory leak? If I play for a couple of hours my FPS gets significantely worse

(i'm in post-late game)

[glacial drum]

On ps5 I had one instance that seemed like what you’d call a memory leak on pc. Restarting the game fixed it for me

[fossil oyster]

Yeah I just reload the save after a few hours

[empty path]

In a T junction isn't it Path signals on Entrances and Block on exits? o-o i can't figure out a T junction for the life of me atm

[real shale]

Single or dual rail

[empty path]

dual

[real shale]

yes, it should be

[empty path]

the 3 paths are "!" , the 3 blocks are "fine"

[real shale]

You might need to move the signals away from the merge points, it could be the signal bug

[normal orbit]

its the bug with the game seeing 180 degree turns as valid. you can play around with rebuild tracks, or just move signals 1.5 foundations back

[real shale]

Try placing the paths a bit further down/up

[empty path]

ok , i already replace everything in this junction, except trying that, will do that and see

its fixed -.-

🤦‍♂️

[wise isle]

i always love the smell of pollution

[real shale]

There you go

[empty path]

thanks a bunch, now ill know for future troubleshooting ❤️

[crystal cedar]

Any more formatting i can add?
||golf||

[real shale]

Yes

But I won't tell you what

[next ivy]

headers are disabled by the server

[crystal cedar]

Yah that's why I didn't use them

Can I use

ll

|| > YES||

[next ivy]

no ?

[crystal cedar]

Oh subs are allowed

[real shale]

print('Satisfactory')

[next ivy]

TFMG

[crystal cedar]

|| > -# YES||

[stuck canopy]

im debating with myself - should i try to clean up my save or just start fresh?
after 30 hours i actually know what im doing, somewhat

[next ivy]

just build on top of old infrastructue

its always faster to continue on an existing save, than restart

[fickle locust]

Walk half a kilometer to some new nodes and restart there

You can do this process 3-4 times before it starts making sense to come back to your starting area

The difference between what you made in the first 10 hours and what you can make with experience plus higher-tier belts and miners is crazy

[marsh ice]

I’ve just destroyed everything multiple times after getting a buncha resources to restart production more efficiently

[mighty hare]

No no no. This is how we get Blame!!

[marsh ice]

I found a couple mk 1 belts and now production is way faster

[next ivy]

still havent read blame

i did read an inspired work tho "organ ripper" or something like that

[stuck canopy]

ya i feel like i will make a dirty setup to unlock next few milestones and just explore for little bit

[stuck canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934619951090778112/1481691924506349791/image.png?ex=69b43ca3&is=69b2eb23&hm=7f3c6ebc2b23fa74a06e89b99219b0bcc6c58129bcadb4a594319b86fcd87d1a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless its a mess

[fickle locust]

I've got more hours than you but in my last run I did the first 3 phases entirely with ad-hoc stuff

[stuck canopy]

ad-hoc?

[fickle locust]

Like a dirty setup. Just throwing down something that kind of works and saying it's good enough because I'll do a better thing later

[stuck canopy]

ahh, a "temp" permanent solution

[fickle locust]

Yeah there's real power to be had when you recognize you aren't building for the future

[normal orbit]

nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution :D

[ornate saffron]

I have ocd until i get sick of it lol. So I only play when. I am in the zone.

[whole robin]

Assuming you only have mk 5 belts, the right recipes to have a bauxite to ingot ratio of 1:1.333, and only have mk 2 miners on 2 pure nodes, could they make enough aluminum to supply all aluminum needs throughout the late game all the way to the end

[fickle locust]

The first "real" factory I made was for Heavy Modular Frames, and even that ended up being helpful in Phase 4 but utterly obsolete by Phase 5

[weak bloom]

How is it obsolete, you still need the advanced frames

[pale tree]

yeah i have a feeling that motors and hmf's are gonna be like that so im not even automating them until i need alot of them

for now i just got an assembler making each, manually fed

might be a good way to avoid getting overwhelmed im hopin

[ornate saffron]

Depends on viewpoint I guess.

I build for purpose factory. Often starting the chain all over again. I could just ship my modular engines to the next facility for w/e phase part is next.

But ill just sink them and make a new chain in the next factory

[weak bloom]

Ah, yeah. I'm kinda running into that problem with my plains HMF factory because it's the first big one I built and it's also a place for a lot of the early game basic mats that I put into a depot (I built extra at all the steps of the HMF chain to depot them). But it means that factory is gonna be a nightmare to expand ...

I might honestly just write off the plains resources and never touch that area again lmao

If I need more HMF I'll just build elsewhere

[ornate saffron]

Nothing wrong with that. I mostly do independent factories with some exceptions.

[fickle locust]

Making 4 per minute was not relevant when I needed 40 per minute

[ornate saffron]

I tend to break that rule with copper powder and aluminum.

Ill process a whole bauxite node at a time then ship the aluminum to where I need it

[ornate saffron]

4 per minute fine for personal use

[fickle locust]

Yeah I needed 4 per minute to build stuff and it was great
When I needed those HMFs to turn into even more advanced things, it made more sense to just make a 40/min factory

[real shale]

Thats 4 fused modular frames a minute, perfect

[granite coral]

does anyone want to play im a bit of a noob but i learn fast

[bleak valley]

#1201555265942724758

[weak bloom]

Yeah, makes sense. I just had a grander vision in mind when I built the initial hmf factory but now it's just gonna sit there for personal use...I brought in way overkill resources to that factory thinking I'd expand it later

Now it's later and the prospect of expanding that factory makes me want to not bother and write off all that resource routing as a loss 🙃

[fickle locust]

I started upgrading the 4/min, then realized I'd have to tear everything down and start over again... and I'd already made it kind of nice looking. So now it gets to sit there and be a cool landmark

It's got this neat observation tower dome thing

[weak bloom]

Luckily it's the plains area and I think the only resource I'd actually want from there is the pure caterium node. So I might just build an addon to make iron wire and replace the caterium part and send that node elsewhere

I'm fine just leaving a bunch of normal and impure plains nodes' worth of resources on the table lol

It was all built with 240 miner output and I can't be bothered to go upgrade them all to 300/600 and split off the resources while keeping the old factory going....

[regal plinth]

guys can someone gift me teardown on steam please? its very expensive in my country and i want it very much.

[next ivy]

bro is not even asking for the correct game

[real shale]

aaaaaaa

[stone python]

No, go ask your mom.

[real shale]

its even on sale right now for 50% off

[ornate saffron]

No begging please reread and follow the #rules

[real shale]

Oh great beefalo of the lake, grant me your wisdom

[ornate saffron]

Don't poop where you sleep

[next ivy]

technically, since hes not asking for satisfactory, hes not breaking rules

• Please don't beg for keys/free copies of the game.
"the game" here refers to satisfactory
so asking for other games is fine

[real shale]

Wow this really helps

[real shale]

YOU.... UGHHHH I lost the game

[next ivy]

oh shit, bad puns result in a lifetime ban

[real shale]

Love how I have to confirm to discord that I am not a robot in my own account to change my profile picture

[ornate saffron]

Steam forces me to re enter my credentials when I buy a game for myself. BUT not when I gift others games

[real shale]

Steam knows you can't be trusted with your own money unless you are being selfless

[ornate saffron]

Apperently

[glacial drum]

Perhaps I should finally learn trains

[fossil oyster]

Weren't you talking about farming all the bauxite

[stuck canopy]

there isnt like a mk2 constructors and stuff? if i make a balanced setup now its as good as it can get?

[fossil oyster]

Yes, but you can overclock your machines.

[stuck canopy]

sounds painfull

[glacial drum]

Likely using trains to transport them, yes.

[fickle locust]

Faster belts will let you have more constructors making the same thing
Faster miners will let you have more ores to turn into ingots
And there are more advanced machines than constructors. For example you can make wire with a constructor, but you can also make wire with copper ingots and caterium ingots in an assembler, which will produce more overall

[regal plinth]

i live in afghanistan, im seperated from my parents and im currently living in a hostel im 16

[stone python]

I’m sorry you are going through all that, but it’s still not really cool to beg for a game key in a discord not related to said game.

[hearty flame]

chat how do we use the hypertube junctions

[sterile blade]

Especially so when there's #rules specifically against it...

[loud surge]

is there a way to set multiple spawn points lmao

[cursive crane]

No, but you can pickup and move the hub anytime

[loud surge]

ahh okay thanks

[zenith bear]

At what stage in the game do you guys start putting effort into making things look pretty?

All my factories end up looking like big platforms or half finished warehouses

[loud surge]

i triedd so hard to rebuild mine a little nicer and by the time i was finished it was only biger but not nicer 😢

[zenith bear]

Real

I've given up on the art. The factories are meant to look industrial and they at least fit that part

[loud surge]

i try so hard for industrial but mine just look italian, spaghetti central lmao

[zenith bear]

Lmaoooooooooo

Great way to put it

[bleak valley]

I started decorating a factory once but the walls didn’t work the way I wanted so I stopped

[zenith bear]

My factories are all open faced sandwiches

[loud surge]

your factory has walls?!?!?!?

[bleak valley]

It has a wall I gave up

[loud surge]

understandable icl

all mine are just floating platfroms on top of floating platforms that are ebside another floating platform

[bleak valley]

I have a diagonal part of the floor and walls can’t snap to it so I got sad

I wanted a large window in

[loud surge]

i tried making a storage room in the blueprinter last night and the big gates are 22 and a half walls wide but i dont have half walls, too fill the sides, made me mad

got it filled eventually but snapping the walls so they would clip into each other was anightmare

[rancid turret]

try using foundations as walls

or pillars

[ornate saffron]

If i have the energy imma finish decorating my barge tonight.

Im nit procrastinating as I promised myself I would not complete a phase until im done decorating.

🙃

[bleak valley]

You know the game has walls right

[rancid turret]

foundation looks better

[zenith bear]

Does overclocking consume more power?

[feral snow]

yes

[zenith bear]

I'm playing a separate world with my friend, and we're somehow suffering from power issues even though we have a ton of seemingly optimized coal generators. In my other world, I don't have those problems and I have a lot less generators. I'm only guessing it's because we're overclocking more in this world

Where can I see the increased power consumption?

[feral snow]

it's proportional to the overclocking

[zenith bear]

So it doesn't waste energy?

[feral snow]

so if it consumes 10MW nominally and it's overclocked 50% it consumes 15MW

[stone python]

No

[feral snow]

no it does not waste energy compared to just building more

[normal orbit]

not quite true, the power draw goes up exponentially

[feral snow]

yeah I didn't actually know

[stone python]

The only linear relation between oc and power is with generators

[feral snow]

I was just making up an answer so somebody who knew would correct me

[green fiber]

at 200%, you use 2.5x more power

[normal orbit]

if you replace machines that are 100% with fewer machines at 250% you will use 34% more power totally

[feral snow]

much faster than asking

[green fiber]

so it does waste like one fith more power

[zenith bear]

Weird

[ornate saffron]

Underclocking does save you some energy at the cost of space.

Tip for thoughts

[sick falcon]

i love how building anything in a truck path lobotomizes it

its so funny seeing it try to make it through

[normal orbit]

yes, underclcoking by just a small amount can save a fair chuck of power

[loud surge]

not a fan of these rock throwing hogs loooooool

[zenith bear]

My power generation keeps fluctuating even though everything should be stable

[ornate saffron]

Rock throwing hogs...

Broad face that spit at you are....spittera

[loud surge]

spitters are inaccurate and soft, these hogs are sharp shooters and tanky af lol

[ornate saffron]

Go investigate your power generators. See if there is yellow lights poping up

[zenith bear]

There aren't

[ornate saffron]

The remains say

Spitter remains.

Just trying to avoid confusion as rock throwing hogs could be a mod for all I know lol

[normal orbit]

check the uptime/effiency, if its at 100% no problem, if less problem

[loud surge]

i wouldnt know icl but they look and run like hogs, even charge ya when youre close to them

[zenith bear]

Where do I check that

[normal orbit]

in the machines status panel, showing power use, cycle time, etc

the icon with like a bar graph

[empty spoke]

can i somehow use the particle accelerator without using 1.5k power?

[normal orbit]

downclock it

[zenith bear]

Oop

Found the culprit. One of the machines was flashing yellow

[empty spoke]

id be producing 0.045 nuclear pasta lmao

[zenith bear]

My friend was the one who designed the generators.

[empty spoke]

it still shows 1.5k

[normal orbit]

it needs to cycle once

[empty spoke]

scared to connect it to my network

[normal orbit]

if you dont have 1500mw available, then you need to make more power

[rancid turret]

downclocking 4 at 25% will use less power than 1 at 100%, but it'll still be a shitload

if you're making pasta, you'd better get rocket fuel going

and things only get much worse from here

[empty spoke]

yea doesnt look like i can rush mk6 belts for now lmao

[rancid turret]

fortunately rocket fuel is amazing

[ornate saffron]

He wants to make a mega all in one factory. But he is rushing mk6 belts first.

Minimum everything so he doesnt need to delete as much later

[rancid turret]

i

sorry i made a mega phase1-4 factory and that was enough to kill my brain

[ornate saffron]

I did phase 4 and 5 in one factory 10min of all phase parts.

Never again

[rancid turret]

i didn't have any previous phase automated so i had a huge debt to repay

i made turbo motors, cooling devices, supercomputers, heavy modular frames and fused modular frames separately, so it wasn't a complete nightmare

but it was so interconnected and went back on itself so much

[sick falcon]

how much energy is every geyser on the map

[rancid turret]

!wikisearch Geyser

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Geyser

[rancid turret]

is in there, 7100W

-# man that's pretty terrible

[ornate saffron]

9 x min production

9x max production

Equals maximum range at any given time

[sick falcon]

😭 useless

[rancid turret]

i guess it's free power

[ornate saffron]

If you make 10 alien power augmentors you have a decent phase 1-3 energy output for free

[rancid turret]

power that can't be interrupted by your coal generator water extractors failing

[brittle rune]

is it feasable to get 8-9 trains all getting different materials (2 for iron, 2 for copper, 2 for uranium, 1 for coal, 1 for (to be decided) at least to go through one entrance double track by using junctions or would that mess with getting enough materials there?

[rancid turret]

I have, uh, I wanna say 5 or 6 going through one junction

but they have one train station each so they never back up

[ornate saffron]

If you make the train stations off the main line dedicating each train for there own station it should have little issues

[sick falcon]

routing trains through the mess of cliffs northeast of blue crater is awful jesus

[rancid turret]

#math-and-meta message see here

[sick falcon]

i swear my path signals dont do this

i have them on the entrance of each junction and the trains just dont do that

[rancid turret]

what do they do

[thin pilot]

quick question whats a good website to do calculations for factories?

[sick falcon]

they stop and treat them like block signals

[rancid turret]

get some screenshots and we'll help

[rancid turret]

satisfactory tools

everyone in here swears by it

[thin pilot]

the 1.0?

[sick falcon]

ill do it in a bit im miles from my train network rn

[rancid turret]

ye, 1.1 didn't change recipes

[brittle rune]

i see. then i can scrap the bullshit of making 5 or more seperate rail lines. (tryna get a production of 10 uranium rods per minute for fun so i need a good amount of shit ill just get in by trains

[abstract flint]

why are my pipe not transferring the liquid

[next ivy]

factoriolab 🤣

[next ivy]

are they going uphill

[rancid turret]

could be many reasons, get a screenshot

[abstract flint]

nope

[rancid turret]

i wish you luck; I'm gonna use plutonium rod powered drones to bring in all resources because I'm a maniac

[thin pilot]

its not even letting me input crude oil

[rancid turret]

you can give each train it's own dedicated line if you want to guarantee throughput but it's mostly not necessary

[thin pilot]

like its not even an option

[rancid turret]

you input the result, you can't make crude oil

so if you want fuel tell it you want fuel and it'll magic a factory for you

[ornate saffron]

I suggest making a post in #1038092680493801533 with pictures from several angles as well as any information you can think of.

This is a poor forum for trouble shooting

[brittle rune]

@rancid turret how do you deal with the issue of max 1 train in a block at all times. i mean wouldnt matter much if i just have the entrance be one junction with 6 inputs since it wouldnt take too long for each train to enter and exit the sation but yk

[thin pilot]

so where it says inputs I just leave it blank?

[abstract flint]

no but just the flow rat not the same

[rancid turret]

if they all gonna go on one junction, then they'll all have to wait anyway, whether they're on one rail line or have separate ones

[rancid turret]

yeah, you can add inputs if you already have a factory making like, crystal oscillators and you don't want tools to calculate that bit

[brittle rune]

but on one line they would have to wait at the closest junction or their station no? or do you just put block / path signs every few meters

[rancid turret]

i have block signals every hundred meters or so

[thin pilot]

im just trying to get a basic idea for a turbofuel factory

and I just get this
"Unfortunately we couldn't calculate any result.
This can be due to many things: missing resource required for the production line, not enough resources for the requested amount, disabled recipes required for the product, etc."

[brittle rune]

good luck. i made one with a output of 500 smth turbofuel in phase 3. it was pain.

with mk1 pipes

[thin pilot]

oof I think im gonna get mk2 ones first

[rancid turret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j939cbiQWyg here's a comparison of junctions, they can handle a lot of trains

[rancid turret]

ah turbofuel recipe isn't enabled by default

go to recipes and enable it, plus any alts you have

[thin pilot]

ok

[rancid turret]

turbofuel is at the very bottom of the alt recipe list instead of alphabetically

[rich crest]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280

[rancid turret]

because you get it from the MAM sulphur tree rather than from a hard drive research

[thin pilot]

ye needed to do compacted coal aswell

[sick falcon]

i forget turbofuel is technically optional

[rancid turret]

also get yourself heavy oil residue and diluted fuel, if you don't have those

[thin pilot]

ye im gonna go search for them but I need to make a larger coal plant first

[fossil oyster]

Unfortunately thanks to nitro rocket fuel

[brittle rune]

@rancid turret ill probably make 1 track for each resource and the progressively merge them into 1 or maybe 2

[rancid turret]

yeah that makes sense

like a spiderweb

[thin pilot]

whats the best way for me to find hard drives?

[rancid turret]

unlock hard drive scanning; or cheat and use satisfactory map

[thin pilot]

how does one unlock hard driv scanning

[green fiber]

find a hard drive

[rancid turret]

is a MAM research

[vernal walrus]

I need more Mercer spheres. I need more

[ornate saffron]

Cheat is subjective.

But SCIM is the easiest route to many harddrives

[ornate saffron]

if you havent already researched it the final Research for each depot branch is 23 spheres each. I like holding off on those and just placing more depots for high use items.

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> another question for Hannah; How do they feel about making fans of Satisfactory talk about Matt Mercer's balls more than fans of Labrynth talk about David Bowie's balls?

[vernal walrus]

I’ve def been splitting them between research and depots

[thin pilot]

where in the mam do you unlock scanning for hard drives?

[rancid turret]

quartz I think

[ornate saffron]

46 more depots is just more powerful then the final research. in my opinion.

BUT i do get them eventually just i hold off for a long whi;e

[minor field]

we need nobelisks to deal less damage so i can attach more to space giraffes

[rancid turret]

i-

[thin pilot]

oh is it through radar towers?

[rancid turret]

[leaden turret]

did you not know Mercer Spheres were named for Matt Mercer?

[vernal walrus]

You leave them alone

[rancid turret]

yes but you didn't need to type that out

those words aren't in the bible

[leaden turret]

we do what we must because we can

[minor field]

they die after you attach 300 of them sadly

i couldnt attach the entire 2,500 cluster bombs :(

[vernal walrus]

I felt bad the first giraffe thing I killed thinking it would give me mats but I got a depressing message from ADA instead

[rancid turret]

it's not radar towers

[minor field]

its in quartz

quartz > quartz crystals > crystal oscillator > radio signal scanning

[thin pilot]

ye I just found it need to get motors

[rancid turret]

there ya go

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> when you add office furniture in 1.3, will we be able to upholster them with bean leather?

[vernal walrus]

You monster

[rancid turret]

[minor field]

i was told the elite stingers have more HP than the giraffe things so im gonna try to see how many nobalesks i can attach to them

[leaden turret]

better to kill it for a purpose than to kill it just because you can, you monster 😛

[old urchin]

when transporting gas (nitrogen) in pipes, do I need headlift pumps when goingh up a hill?

[rancid turret]

nope

[leaden turret]

iirc, gas doesn't do headlift

[glass thicket]

Bope

[vernal walrus]

I was new and learning what beasts drop mats! I swear!

[old urchin]

thanks

[leaden turret]

hey, I did the same thing with the birb, expected it to drop feathers or eggs

[glass thicket]

Nope even

[cunning lily]

"Just in case, maybe it only drops mats sometimes. Kill another one. For science."

[ornate saffron]

i tried dropping a nut in its mouth as it looked to the sky wide open

[leaden turret]

don't teabag the alien fauna

[ornate saffron]

is the Flora okay to T bag

[leaden turret]

tea bag go in cup of water, not cup of flour 🥁

[minor field]

I like to test how many nobelisks I can attach to them

[leaden turret]

-# cup of flower, cup of flour, geddit

[ornate saffron]

what about tea bag in my coffee

Jokes aside ive been putting Dehydrated fruit in my tea latel. Its real nice.

[leaden turret]

-# something something dehydrated fruit something something prunes something something lol balls

[thin pilot]

is there a difference between diluted fuel and diluted packaged

or is it the same ratio

[rancid turret]

identical outputs, just more complexity cause of packagers

[thin pilot]

so try and get the unpackaged version

[rancid turret]

it's better to have packaged now and have all the power

[thin pilot]

wdym?

[sick falcon]

can a single freight platform sustain 1900 a minute

[rancid turret]

if you don't have blenders or diluted fuel, i would get power now rather than later

[rancid turret]

nyet

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/3st6opd3w7 max is about 1500, on a stack size of 500

[thin pilot]

im just tryiing to get the alternates atm then im gonna set up a make shift fuel factory before workig on turbo

[rancid turret]

gotcha

[sick falcon]

what the fuck 😭

[rancid turret]

this is per freight platform, so you'd need at least two

and trains can do like 3 or 4 freight cars without much problem

[sick falcon]

what are the single points on the graph for

[rancid turret]

is just labels for different stack sizes

[sick falcon]

the (7.12, 585) and others

[warm finch]

Does that include the time the station is stopped for unloading?

[sick falcon]

yea if it wasnt included the max would be 2400

[rancid turret]

yeah that's why the graph tapers off as it approaches zero, cause that takes up more of the round trip

[thin pilot]

I also need basic platic resources atm any way so I may aswell as get pretty good fuel out of it

[sick falcon]

running a second train wouldnt fix it right

[rancid turret]

you'd need one train with at least two freight cars

two trains would also double but then you need more stations etc

[sick falcon]

i already built my entire line and stations assuming id have 4 cars, not 5, a bit of a pain to rebuild

[rancid turret]

welp

[sick falcon]

oh well

[warm finch]

The issue would be dumping into the same freight station. To increase throughput you need a second station

[rancid turret]

you'd also have double the 27 second dead time

[warm finch]

Build a second station/platform off of the first one and add a train to unload on that 2nd station

[old grail]

hey quick question, came back after one year to the game, cranked up old save... i got a problem with dismantling, its locked on "dismantle mode: blueprint", cant seem to filter it out by the G button (by default apparently) and options didnt really helped. Anyone had similiar problem?

[rancid turret]

pretty sure it's R

[ornate saffron]

blueprint is a biuld mode
@rancid turret is right

[old grail]

okay thank you for some reason i had no R button on the dismantling HUD

it works now xD thanks

[zenith bear]

How do you control which side the exit is on for pipe branches

[ornate saffron]

you dont. they self balance

they flow into any area they can

[zenith bear]

That's annoying

[real shale]

Welcome to realistic fluid flow

[ornate saffron]

in theory you could use Valves to control things but i find they cause more issues then they help

See the plumbing manual pinned in #math-and-meta Lesson 6: Pipe Basics - Valves for details, how to use

[gloomy tusk]

it is also a dismantle mode

[zenith bear]

Let me correct myself. I mean hypertubes

[green fiber]

oh.
press E

[zenith bear]

I forgot actual pipes exist in this game 💀

[ornate saffron]

lol well thats diffrent

[zenith bear]

Pressing E just switches what I'm building

I'm trying to make a branch exit on the left rather than the right

Scrolling changes which direction the branch flows

[fickle wraith]

when does a drone take off

[ornate saffron]

when it has loaded/unloaded its payload

[green fiber]

you turn it around with mouse wheel after clicking once

[zenith bear]

Thank you!!

[thin pilot]

crystal oscillators are a pain in the ass

jesus

[real shale]

They aren't thatttt bad

[fossil oyster]

They really aren't

[ornate saffron]

its the 1/min in the manufacturer that kils me lol. I luckily spaced thigns well (i didnt want to Overclock)

[fossil oyster]

But I understand why people hate them

[thin pilot]

I dont even have manufacturers 😢

[fossil oyster]

I'm making 551 per minute

[real shale]

How are you making them then?

[fossil oyster]

With lots and lots of rubber

Oh, he's hand feeding them then :D

[real shale]

Both recipes use manufacturers tho

[sick falcon]

geothermals make such satisfying noises

[thin pilot]

got an impure crystal node making enough for 2 oscilatoers per min

[fossil oyster]

You misspelled particle accelerator

[real shale]

You misspelled resource well extractors

[fossil oyster]

We have a winner

[simple pebble]

It's brutal. You can't keep me away from the rubber + ai limiter recipe for this reason

[fossil oyster]

Yeah rubber oscilators are great. AI limiters kinda suck though

Well, the resource efficient one anyway

[simple pebble]

Yeah they're annoying. I use plastic AI limiters and honestly this is why I never make huge fuel plants

Rather would use the alt recipes that benefit from oil products

[fossil oyster]

Large fuel plants is just copy pasting blueprints though

[thin pilot]

32 more to hand craft 😢

[simple pebble]

I mean, I'd rather use the fuel for rubber and plastic recycling

[deft drum]

ooooh baby, so i am one of like 5 people who swear by steel screws and bolted plates/frames but

to make 50 versatile framework and 10 modular engines takes 57.5 Renforced modular plates.

and 2 bolted plate assemblers fed by 480 screws/minute creates, 57.6

[simple pebble]

That's beautiful

Yeah I love steel screws

You just have one constructor per assembler/manufacturer it's feeding into

And your belt problems are solved

[proven snow]

The screw hate is real but yeah personally I've always been a fan of steel screws too

[modern vale]

cowards. I do and always will use the default screw recipe

[proven snow]

True bravery

[real shale]

You are so right I should make a copious amount of screws

[modern vale]

ONE MILLION SCREWS

PER MINUTE

[jagged nymph]

five. hundred. screws

(per second)

[ornate saffron]

I skipped making additional plubber beyond fuel byproducts during phase 3 of this run. Going quartz computers and silica circuit boards instead

[jagged nymph]

plubber

[ornate saffron]

That factory used something like 2400 screws

Edit 1980 screwss

[jagged nymph]

i need to make 1920 for reinforced iron plates

so 4 belts

[simple pebble]

Those are really fun too, great for rocky desert games if you can import enough copper

[bleak valley]

Time to finish up my new factories

[timber plover]

is there a mod that will show my railroads on the minimap? I would like to see my entire railroad network just like you could on the satisfactory calculator website :p

[ornate saffron]

For sure. I am forcing different builds this run. I needed to use all the none oil resources in blue crater so I wouldn't go nitro rocket fuel again.

[simple pebble]

Smart

[ornate saffron]

Identify habits so I can break them. ^-^

[simple pebble]

Cartograph does this. I love the mod but it can cause textures to bug

[bleak valley]

What is the factory on the main menu even producing they have quick wire steel pipes and packaged water moving on conveyers together

[jagged nymph]

it could just be part of a megafactory

[ornate saffron]

Could be a acu factory

[bleak valley]

Also I wish I could build as nicely as it’s done lol very beautiful

[jagged nymph]

the pipes and wire could be for quickwire stator

[ornate saffron]

Practice and developing good habits.

This playthrough i am refusing to move phases before decorating.

[wispy osprey]

Architecture requires knowledge of the future but there are designs that you can only do in early phases lol

[fickle wraith]

#screenshots message
Im going crazy I cant find it is it underground???

[vale quarry]

yo is anyone here creative / good with design?

[fickle wraith]

[jagged nymph]

its in a cave

[timber plover]

that's a pretty sick mod! does it work well tho cuz i just want something simple xd

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @warm finch

[fickle wraith]

wheres the cave entrance

[wispy osprey]

It's the only legit complaint about satisfactory that I have. Most of the game is locked to late progression

[jagged nymph]

check on the scim

[simple pebble]

This is actually why I installed SF+ lol

Game is way too complicated unless I properly prepare and because that takes so long, because it demands more blueprints and because logistics are so rooted in base design, it's much easier to decorate more thoroughly

[warm finch]

@timber plover

[timber plover]

ye thanks, i joined it

[simple pebble]

Yeah it's good

[wispy osprey]

If i had the power, I would add furniture and smaller fluorescent lights

[reef basin]

screw hate is overrated

[simple pebble]

Furniture is the biggest flex

[proven snow]

Screw hate is overpopularized

[normal orbit]

become a screwist, lets your seething hatred flow towards those smug little bastards laying there in their blue boxes

[sick falcon]

the shattered plains in the middle north of the map are so cool i wish i was a good enough builder to build there

[compact schooner]

Hey, I need help with a multiplayer session
We are playing Crossplay, im hosting on Epic, Friend is joining over Code from Steam
we have been having 0 issues for like 20 hours and multiple sessions

but since yesterday, we placed the mk1 blueprint designer and he designed blueprints
he couldnt see them in his Q -> Blueprint, but I, as the hoster, could see them

so he decided to restart the game and since then is stuck in loading screen
I get the message "... joined the game" and he is in the game, but on his screen he has the loading screen
he is able to switch between weapons with his mousewheel, while being stuck in loadingscreen

we restarted sessions and games multiple times
we sent eachother the blueprint files and also save files

when he hosted the same save, I had the same issue when joining, but he was able to load into his character just fine

a fix for this was:
replacing the hub
killing the joining person while he is offline so he respawns at the hub
that way we were able to join each other, but half of the structures (like belts) were invisible for the joining person.

any ideas on how to fix this?

[green fiber]

do you both have the same network quality selected in the options?

[sick falcon]

is there any easy way to tell how long a train round trip is

or do i need to manually time it

[compact schooner]

We both have it on medium

[green fiber]

try high or ultra.
the low settings are usually ass

[ornate saffron]

This will likely need troubleshooting i suggest making a post in #1038092680493801533

This is a poor forum for troubleshooting

[compact schooner]

I did a post 2 days ago, no luck

im sorry, we just wanna play

we already have 30 gamehours on this save

[simple pebble]

Yeah I've had similar network issues but the problem was a mod in my case.

Higher network settings should help a lot though

[ornate saffron]

I get that ^-^

A link to post is a great way to get some attention.

Goodluck. Doesn't sound like fun

[compact schooner]

Oh okay, any Idea what mod that was?

[green fiber]

do you have mods by any chance since you are asking?

[compact schooner]

yes sir

[simple pebble]

Refined power, the solar panels were causing it for me

[green fiber]

how. many.

[compact schooner]

29

[bleak valley]

[compact schooner]

hm okay we have those installed

[green fiber]

did you post that in your thread too?

[simple pebble]

(mod was fine once we deleted the panels)

[compact schooner]

okay take it back guys
I love you all
set it to ultra, finally works:p

[green fiber]

yippie

[sick falcon]

is there something like this for trucks

[rancid turret]

honestly no idea

[proud leaf]

protein inhaler sucks is there way to automatically get beryl nuts and alien protein

[sick falcon]

nope :D

[proud leaf]

well then its usless

why would anybody use this

[leaden turret]

mods

[sick falcon]

its my favorite one

[proud leaf]

ehm oh

[sudden flint]

frick

[proud leaf]

why?

[sick falcon]

u get plenty of beryl nuts just running around passively

[sudden flint]

I finally got past steel and oil products

[proud leaf]

ye but I LIKE AUTOMATION

btw guys my coal factory is working very good

[sick falcon]

and every other inhaler has multiple non-automated parts

only protein inhaler has 1

[sudden flint]

and now I'm realizing I have no blueprints, no infrastructure, and no clue what to do next 0 ~0

[solemn vapor]

can tractors transfer 240 iron ore per second?

[sudden flint]

probably not

but multiple probably could manage pretty well

[unkempt blade]

easily unless the route takes a really long time to run

[muted apex]

anyone know of some good setups for 900 crude oil?

blueprints by chance

[green fiber]

600 plastic

[sick falcon]

what are you looking to make

[muted apex]

heavy oil plastic and rubber

i got the 30 smelters up but the output of the heavy oil just dont flow right

refinery****

[sick falcon]

you can make 2700 rubber out of 900 oil, that would make plenty of boots for you to lick

[mortal ginkgo]

that took a weird turn in the end

[muted apex]

i was lookin to do rubber and plastic i had it split 15 n 15 and yeah it did lmao

[proven snow]

To heal

[mortal ginkgo]

its full heal that costs nuts and alien protein. easy to get from literally everywhere

[sick falcon]

is wait for full load or complete one stop better for trains

[fossil oyster]

Depends

[sick falcon]

when should i use each one

[fossil oyster]

It really depends

Like, full load if it's just the single train. But if you're running multiple trains, it can be bad, because they can line up before the station

Full load is "better", as the train is AFK at the station and not congesting your train network

[elfin smelt]

personal equipment (besides filters and portable miners) are like the one thing that really makes little sence to automate

[sick falcon]

inhalers are like the only thing you cant automate thats not permanent gear

[elfin smelt]

I mean are you constantly losing health 100% of the time? have a 200 hour save and I probably have enough protein that and fruits that I colected passively to make protein inhalers the rest of my playtime

[normal orbit]

only really need to inhale when jetpack runs out of fuel :p

[sick falcon]

my determination to splatter on every available surface is unmatched

[elfin smelt]

I'm justifying why the devs designed like that

it makes litle sense to provide an automated way to get something you use so sporadically

[ornate saffron]

Would be nice QOL

But I am in the same camp of you. But I can understand wanting a way to automate.

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message is this too steep for a 5 freight car train

[cunning lily]

Infinite automated biofuel when

[leaden turret]

April 29th, 2025
Q&A: Automating Inhaler production, when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTv4d3rpidI
3m 30s discussion with Mikael & Hannah there

[proud leaf]

just realized power slugs op

[ornate saffron]

Pan gots all the clips on speed dial

[ornate saffron]

You can ||soomersloops|| then to double the power r shards too

[proud leaf]

i can't find any

[ornate saffron]

Overclocking/underclocking is your bread and butter in this game.

[proud leaf]

I GOT SOO OMANY SCREWS

[sick falcon]

im too stubborn to automate miners

[sick falcon]

find some

asap

[bleak valley]

Object scanner

[ornate saffron]

Need to find one first

[sick falcon]

before you craft any power shards, dont waste them unslooped

[proud leaf]

i need to find atleast one to find more

[normal orbit]

look for odd geological formations

[proud leaf]

are power shard a time thing or are they infinte

[normal orbit]

they usually near those

[granite coral]

I feel like im in the lorax when i start cutting down the entire forest because im to lazy to learn how to do coal power

[ornate saffron]

They are a object you can place into a machine. You can remove it as well.

[granite coral]

and yes im playing the theme song to

[proud leaf]

i know but are they infinte

[normal orbit]

power shards are infinite

[proud leaf]

YAY

[sick falcon]

why are the other fauna so incapable of killing spiders

[normal orbit]

theres around 5000 to get from sluggos, then you can automate them in tier 9

[elfin smelt]

if theres enemies it usually means theres something valuable somewhere near

[sick falcon]

2 big spiders just murdered an entire family of spitters and hogs

[ornate saffron]

They can be.

|| at the bottom of the mam slug tree is the recipe to automate production||

[proud leaf]

of the thing?

[sick falcon]

and dogs can give you slugs too

[proud leaf]

dogs?

[ornate saffron]

Doggo can bring you power shards too

[sick falcon]

u can tame lizard doggos

try feeding them

[ornate saffron]

They like the red berries

[proud leaf]

OH SO CUTE CAN I CALL THEM CHOMPY

[elfin smelt]

you can actually give each one a personal name

[proud leaf]

LIKE CHOMPY

[normal orbit]

5302 powershards from slugs

[elfin smelt]

and by that I mean theres literal a text box for you to input a name when you pet them

[peak basalt]

I forgot they removed screws from the computer recipe in 1.0 and was like wtf why are these so easy

[proud leaf]

is every resource in this game infinte do more power slugs spawn ?

[sick falcon]

no

[ornate saffron]

They do not.

||you can craft power shards||

[proud leaf]

oh

THAT SHUCKS

[ornate saffron]

Flora does not respawn

[spare prism]

hi

[sick falcon]

biomass, mycelia, power slugs, sloops, hard drives, mercer spheres dont respawn

but theres enough that youll never run out

[ornate saffron]

Pain seeker, welcome

[deft drum]

phase 3, COMPLETE

[spare prism]

i aint seeking pain im seeking advancement but you wouldnt know what that is

[ornate saffron]

How many phase parts do you need total for phase 2?

[sick falcon]

i think its 3?

[normal orbit]

1000/1000/250?

[spare prism]

we gunna go over this again

[ornate saffron]

I can't remember

[spare prism]

Im working on a mega project rn

big power storage

[fossil oyster]

Never run out of sloops? How

[sick falcon]

theres 106 sloops on the map, realistically most people are never using that many

[fossil oyster]

Yeah, most don't, I do :d

[ornate saffron]

I normally use around 50

[thin pilot]

half way to a fuel factory

[normal orbit]

left over sloops become augmentors :p

[thin pilot]

got 1/2 alts

[fossil oyster]

How cool (and OP) would an automated sloop recipe be

Or like a production chain that you need to keep active in order to get an effect from your extra somersloops

[normal orbit]

and sometimes ada blesses you with more sloops every time you load a save :p

[fossil oyster]

That's illegal

[normal orbit]

i've tried fix the bug, but it just refuses

[sick falcon]

i remember when i first unlocked slooping i immediately ran to stick one in a packager thinking i was so smart

[fossil oyster]

They are so incredibly powerful

[sick falcon]

how tanky are the little bird guys

will hitting him with a xeno basher kill him

[ornate saffron]

Likely

[thin pilot]

wish there was a way to speed up hard drives

[proven snow]

Can you not put them in packagers?

[spare prism]

#screenshots message

[sick falcon]

no, it would let you create a feedback loop of infinitely doubling your fluids

[ornate saffron]

1mil smart plates and versatile frames.

100k automated wiring. Rough

[thin pilot]

what kind of torture do you want to endure

[sick falcon]

huh

[spare prism]

good thing we have infinite ore

[sick falcon]

is benson doing a 1000x elevator part run or something

[thin pilot]

wdym like all pure?

[spare prism]

yes the ores dont run out of ore

[thin pilot]

dont get what you mean they dont run out like infinite through put?

[spare prism]

bruh no

[thin pilot]

im just baffled by ores dont run out

[sick falcon]

every ore node has infinite ore, it just extracts at different speedws

this isnt factorio where each node is limited

[thin pilot]

what confused me was ores dont run out when they dont anyway thought there was smt else happening yk?

[jagged nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8SsayEanfw i knew it