satisfactory

[sterile blade]

Likely the one that got nuked by 1.0

[lusty granite]

watching paint dry is more fun than being in early game

tier 1 and 2

[sterile blade]

It took two engine upgrades to figure rain out

[random lava]

Are there any Turkish players among you?

[zenith pecan]

There is some untidiness on my map due to having five factories go up at once, each depending on the others, I need to get them belted up when I'm not at work.

[ornate saffron]

i dont know abouyt many.

a turkish player joined a few weeks back not knowing this is english only adn really wanted a discord server in his native tongue

[normal orbit]

Lol

[true mulch]

If you're looking for people to play with, check out #1201555265942724758

[random lava]

I'm also Turkish and I came here to find a playmate.

[random lava]

thanks

[clever sandal]

yo ondar

how long does it usually take to be accepted as a translator

[weak bloom]

I seem to have reached the stage in the game where the number of refineries I need to build is "yes"

Damn pure ingot recipes being so good....

[ornate saffron]

refinery burnout is real. Esp Copper FML copper

[normal orbit]

Welcome to refinery fatigue. It sucks

[green fiber]

Self-inflicted problem tbh

Your greed sickens me

[tall lantern]

the alloy recipes are a nice middle ground

[weak bloom]

Yeah copper alloy is pretty good

[glacial drum]

Think the most I’ve setup in a single factory was my pure copper node > pure ingots > wire

[weak bloom]

Pure ingot to steamed sheet is ridiculously good but holy refineries

[glacial drum]

80

80 in one factory.

[reef basin]

nothing forces you to use them

[glacial drum]

That’s the most so far. I doubt it’ll be the most in the end

[green fiber]

The greed gremlin is forcing them

[glacial drum]

The desire for maximum efficiency consumes

[reef basin]

efficiency is just running at 100% 😛

[weak bloom]

I'm putting together 4 of the recycled rubber and plastic lines now and it's just a massive wall of refineries lmfao. I don't really want to overclock them because I'd rather save shards for resource nodes

Honestly though it sucks to put up but seeing it all laid out from above is very nice

[glacial drum]

I found it easier to plan how many rows and how many will be in each row before i began

If all else fails you can always go vertical

[uneven path]

If transporting high throughput resources over a very long distance - e.g dune desert to gold coast - is it better to use one long train, or set up some kind of relay train system? Drones are better for low throughput resources so I'm ruling those out

[zenith pecan]

I still have 2400 coke spare for tempered copper ingots.

[normal orbit]

Mine using four full crude pipes ended in over 200 refineries with overclock

[weak bloom]

The way I've got it set up each line is 20x for HOR, 10x for residual rubber, and then another 60x for the recycled loop 🙃
(I'm slightly underclocking some so they can fit into nice rectangular blocks of refineries, it looks very nice)

[glacial drum]

A long train would be best if possible I’d think. Do leave room for future train infrastructure too.

[weak bloom]

I'll end up with like 360 here lol

So that checks out if you're overclocking xD

[uneven path]

I'm planning to bring all of the bauxite in the world to one location because aluminium is annoying and I'd rather do it just once, so trying to figure out the best way to approach it. A long push-pull train makes sense to me here for sure, maybe 2

[ornate saffron]

when i did once factory for all pf phase 4 and 5. 10/min for all phase parts i made more refineries then i care to count. Never again will i inflict that on myself again

[zenith pecan]

I just belted all 12300 bauxite to the dunes.

[short mist]

Hey question for y'all why does Ada doesn't speak if U say in chat hello Ada anymore

[normal orbit]

You are not bringing all bauxite to one location with a single push pull. You also need other materials :)

[uneven path]

Yeah the dunes is probably where I'll end up doing this, there's just under the right amount of oil for the petroleum coke in that valley between the dunes and titan forest, and I can just bring one of the impures from the dune spires to top up the rest

[short mist]

Does anyone know

[zenith pecan]

My petro coke system is right next door in the swamp.

[uneven path]

Yeah it will probably need at least 2 or maybe 3 trains to do it. But with the recipes I'm using I'll only need bauxite, water, and oil for the production so bauxite is the only long distance resource

[uneven path]

Yeah swamp could be good, there's also the big lake with the waterfalls between the red forest and northern forest. But I think I'd be 30 oil per minute short as I need 1230 crude per minute

[normal orbit]

for comparison, i used 5 train stations with two trains on each (10 total), 2 engines 8 cars. to bring all bauxite, coal, copper, sam i needed for the aluminium plant

[zenith pecan]

I used the swamp well along with some spare oil from the impure at the blue crater, spare coke gets spun into diamonds by the nearby particle accelerators.

[uneven path]

Fair, I should probably consider copper as well actually. Right now my satisfactory tools is just looking at the ingot output because I want to see how much I have to work with, so I forgot about copper for the sheets

[zenith pecan]

You can also use a sloop to make up for a small shortfall to get a bit of location flexibility.

[uneven path]

Yeah true, I think one slooped HOR refinery would do it

That spot at the lake is great because it's pretty much the midpoint of all the bauxite nodes and it has a chunk of oil

[zenith pecan]

I kept 8 sloops back for my rebuild of sing cell production, the rest I use where they give me options.

[uneven path]

Then I "just" need to set up trains through the red forest 🙃

[zenith pecan]

I just sent the belts down into the tunnels for transit.

I can't really show atm, I'm at work on my phone 🤣 , but you can search my username for a lot of video examples.

[uneven path]

Yeah I could do that, I just hate belting through caves 🤣

[zenith pecan]

I built my own tunnels, the natural caves are maddening to build within.

[green fiber]

Someday i wanna try making a big leached copper plant but with Alchemy Sulfur, not natural sulfur.

Then its almost like Copper alloy but more fancy and more expensive, yet still not as bad as pure copper

[true mulch]

No idea, it goes through the mod team, probably shouldn't take longer than a day

[void cliff]

What’s wrong with pure copper? Just all the water?

[green fiber]

I want my refinery spam to be fancy

Not like the common dirt you'd walk on

[torpid estuary]

It is indeed possible to both delete and move leftover deconstruction crates in SKIM ❤️ One of them was at position (0, 0, 0) together with a splitter and merger and a few belts for some reason. I deleted them all. Thanks for pointing that out @thorny coral @ornate saffron 🙂

[thorny coral]

Greatt, glad to help a bit

[ornate frost]

What kind of machines are worth using ||sommersloops (spoiler?)|| on?

Is it just preference?

[torpid estuary]

Through it I managed to recover power shards that would otherwise have been lost

[glacial drum]

Preference really. It helps most at the end of production lines. Power augmenters are nice but I wouldn’t rely on them since they’re better used to dupe high tier items

[vernal walrus]

I can't use a foundation base for the coal power bp I wanna design because just that extra 1m puts the smoke stack outside the bp designer...

[green fiber]

Then use 2 BPs

Blueprint the floor then slap the coal gens on top

[vernal walrus]

Nah it's not a huge deal honestly.

Just one of those "...... really?" moments.

[glacial drum]

Damn chick I haven’t seen you since emoji

[vernal walrus]

Sorry if I don't recognize ya

[glacial drum]

Eh I’ve changed my profile extremely. I was one of Toasts friends. Might’ve been Soul or Tempest I can’t remember anymore.

[vernal walrus]

Toast is a vaguely familiar name

[glacial drum]

Dude who used to say extremely screenshottable things. Think you sent atleast one back then. If you filter the chat by your name and mentions of me you’d see.

Which reminds me I need to rebuild or atleast salvage my old coal power plants

[vernal walrus]

I did and thems some old messages lol. Time flys.

[glacial drum]

Thinking I’ll look into either nuclear power or changing up my weapons production factory in the blue crater to be a NRF plant. It’s just unfortunate that I spent a good 5 hours designing and building the whole thing. Though, I can easily swap to a more manual loaded weapon production system and that honestly may work just fine considering the scale of weaponry I use.

[glacial drum]

A good 2 or so years ago yea. I don’t even speak there anymore. Too many incidents came from that server

[ornate saffron]

The 0,0,0 things is a known bug. If you are a doggo tamer you may find your missing bois there

[vernal walrus]

I still pop in now and then but yeah, that server showed me how dark and stupid discord can actually be. Always stuck to friends private servers or just whatever game I was currently fixated on.

[torpid estuary]

I see, good to know

[glacial drum]

Yep same here. I only speak in groupchats and a few select servers usually for games like Satisfactory. Till I finish the game and disappear inevitably

I think my biggest problem in nuclear power is the material transport tbh. I still haven’t learned trains lmao

[paper frost]

Not sure if it was intended but I kinda read this as you saying which one will it get burnt up in. Sloops and power shards dont get used up, theyre permanent but they do make power consumption skyrocket depending on the machine and overclock you have.

[ornate frost]

Oh yeah im aware, I was just curious how people preferred to use theirs. I have been stockpiling them for a while

[ornate saffron]

Somersloop are a balanced item. If you put it in a machine it makes the machine use 4x power

You can also make alien power augmentorz with them giving you resource free power

[paper frost]

Try the drone fleet method? The ore is only impure or normal which is possible to drone, this gets rid of some of the radiation issues as it'll be airborne instead

[glacial drum]

Could work. I’ll just have to see if I need to make more batteries for all them

Also would have to weigh the power cost to power created.

[paper frost]

Limited resource items and endpoint production are your best choices. That changes with what stage of the game you're in. Technically you dont need them at all

[paper frost]

Any packaged fuel, power rod, or batteries can be used in drones as of 1.1, it does change the flight time and burn rate. Kinda like fuel generators

[glacial drum]

Honestly, if you have enough stockpiled try throwing them into some machines of high sink point items, if you’ve got the power. Do track where you
place them regardless of use, though.

[glacial drum]

Yea I’m making 200 batteries/min right now and I haven’t tracked what’s being used so far so I’ll have to figure it out. From there, I can see if I need more.

I know I’m using atleast 8 drones to send out batteries but i setup so many spare pads in the first place that I haven’t gone back to check battery usage yet

[torpid estuary]

damn. Turns out, the tractor I recently found alone all by itself really just teleported out of the cave to the space above the cave and sat there. I deleted it. And now I realized why my ore isn't being delivered

[eager palm]

Imagine if we could sloop the packager and make infinite liquids 👀👀

[torpid estuary]

I did even check to see if it had any paths active. But toggling them on and off changed nothing. Little did I know, the path was 100meters underneath in a cave

Now I have to redo this path 😭

[real shale]

Might be a bit broken considering it would probably be a 1/2 sloop machine

Actually I'm realising now, you could potentially scale that infinitely now that I am thinking

[torpid estuary]

actually nvm, I am just blind

[real shale]

By packaging and unpackaging again continuously

[ornate saffron]

This doesnt resolve the issues but I personally like knowing why something is happening

Trucks are not there when they are not in your draw distance. They appear when they are drawn by your computer. This results in some funky teleporting.

Its done this way to make easier for computers to run

[real shale]

Imagine being able to sloop rocket fuel like that, it'd be more absurd than it already is

[ornate saffron]

You can overclock and sloop blenders.

[torpid estuary]

yeah

[real shale]

Yeah but you could sloop a packager that packages and unpackage rocket fuel which would quadruple it

And that's assuming you don't try to do it again

[ornate saffron]

I know it doesnt help and I do not have a solution. My only "trucks" are two factory carts. One carrying smart plates the other ACU

[torpid estuary]

I decided I hate myself and am trying to get as far as possible without trains

and not putting conveyors everywhere

and that leaves vehicles

and boy they do be funky 😄

[ornate saffron]

it gets better with droens

[torpid estuary]

I am debating whether I should use those too

when will 1.2 drop?

I forgot the date. I need those fluid trucks

ah, 17th

[fluid sapphire]

thats the experimental release

[frosty sedge]

Yea that's pc only pretty sure

[normal orbit]

yes and yes

[real shale]

fluids.....

[ornate saffron]

for experimental. Main branch unknown

[real shale]

Imagine, Main Branch April 1st, the update was one big April fools joke

[mortal ginkgo]

go jail pls, make sure it is gulag

[real shale]

No, I haven't turned my entire world into my concrete empire

I should make a concrete throne room

[normal orbit]

1.1 came to experimental on april 1st last year :p

[real shale]

I should recreate that "your politics BORE me" meme with a concrete throne

[torpid estuary]

yeah unfortunately

I mean, I have lived on experimental longer than on stable. But now that I am using some quality of life mods I don't know if I can go back to vanilla 😭

SMART! is just TOO good

[ornate saffron]

is that a mod?

[torpid estuary]

yes and I lowkey think it should be part of the base game it is so good

[real shale]

Isn't that the logic gate one

[torpid estuary]

no

It takes out the tedious bits of setting up a manifold

[real shale]

Oh, kinda like how blueprinting does

[torpid estuary]

I have not actually played around with that bp feature yet

but I suppose so

smart goes a lot further though. You can point to the end of a manifold and with ONE click you can extend it

and it clones the constructor/assembler/manufacturer/refinery/packager/whatever including all its belt and power and pipe connections and hooks it up

[ornate saffron]

I do not find that tedious. But i am glad yo uare enjoying it ^_^

[real shale]

Oh, like what blueprint (auto-connect) does except for the power connections I guess

[torpid estuary]

Well and except you don't have to make a blueprint first

[fluid sapphire]

auto-connect can already do that in vanilla

[normal orbit]

with blueprinting you can do same, and just include the machines and decorations. smart sounds kinda useless to me :p

[fluid sapphire]

but yeah need a blueprint

[torpid estuary]

Smart can also just instantly create a large array of things

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message so can blueprints :p

[torpid estuary]

take a hologram, a constructor for instance, lock it down, roll your scroll wheel 20 times, click. You got 20 constructores next to each other

[real shale]

It took me ages to realise the blueprint makers are not perfect cubes

[torpid estuary]

Yeah I know you can do parts of that with blueprints but then if you need to change something you first need to make a new blueprint or change it

and smart just takes all of that blueprint hassle out of the equation

[real shale]

Was making walls for my swamp base and was like "wait what it can do 10x 4m foundations?

[torpid estuary]

They are not perfect cubes?

[normal orbit]

they are same length, width and height

[real shale]

Then how come I can fit 10 4m foundations up the way but only 5 across?

[fluid sapphire]

they are 4x8

[normal orbit]

cause a foundation is 8x8m

[real shale]

Ah

[normal orbit]

and 4m tall

[real shale]

I am bit stupid

[fluid sapphire]

notice how a wall is not a square

[real shale]

I just saw the sheer scale of it and got confused

[torpid estuary]

anyway - I appreciate blueprints have auto connect now. But smart is just categorically better because it completely avoids having to create, update, manage blueprints in the first place

[real shale]

Mb, stupid dumb dumb moment

[torpid estuary]

but - I suppose - for experimental I can survive on the bp auto connect feature for a while

[real shale]

I mean, you can just steal other people's blueprints too, you never have to create one

[reef basin]

Well it's a mod, those are known to be OP

[torpid estuary]

Don't think you could call it OP really

[real shale]

I actually took most of TotalXclipses railway blueprints and other stuff and tweaked it to give it my own flair

[torpid estuary]

but I also have played this game SO many times already from the beginning of early access til now, with so many friends, started over so many times

eventually you get tired of doing the mouse click dance for the thousandth's time and just want the manifold you picture in your head to exist

[real shale]

Man, the mod pages have been completely ruined for me, I can't see any previews of anything more

[glacial drum]

Wish we could use em on console.

I’ve seen games implement mod menus but I’m not sure how well they’d work in satisfactory.

[west jackal]

i meaaaaan ive played a lot since beginning of EA too, im not tired of clicking, its relaxing

[icy sandal]

Did we learn anything new from the recentmost dev talk about 1.2?

[ornate saffron]

t junctions confirmed

lots of bug fixes

big update and LOOOOONGGGGG stream tuesday]

[real shale]

Long cat

[icy sandal]

So what we know so far is:
Liquid trucks
Better liquid carts for trains (?)
T junction pipe connection
Rain (potentially various rainy modes?)
Bug fixes (and new bugs to be fixed )
Selfiemode (and other photo mode improvements?)
Water extractors require less deep water

Two seperate game modes that are:
Not meant to be an extension to content, but a revision of how you play current content:
Speculated that one of them is pseudo-random resource locations
Other mode practically unknown (?)

[real shale]

Better Liquid carts for trains is a very very big question mark

[ornate saffron]

if it compressed like packaged fluids it would be a a huge upgrade

[real shale]

That's what I'm hoping for but other people have said it's unlikely/doesn't need that

But it was asked by TotalXclipse during a dev stream and Mikael was very ambiguous about it at the time, so it's still possible

[jagged nymph]

Time for 1920 screws

[rustic crest]

i decided to change factory location but what the fastest way to delivery resources

[icy sandal]

Has daisychaining been unconfirmed or still speculation

[jagged nymph]

Train is best

[icy sandal]

Dismantle crate trick (if its stored resources you mean)

[rustic crest]

i dont have them

[jagged nymph]

Then belt

[real shale]

Then tractors/trucks work

[jagged nymph]

Or car

[ornate saffron]

WAIT

am i misunderstanding packaging gas.

for every four units of nitrogen fluid you package do you get 1 package?

then when you unpack you loose one packageand you get 4units of fluid

[real shale]

It's 4 units of gas for 1 package

2 units of fluid for 1 package

[jagged nymph]

Yeah, small amount of belt space used

I think the logic is its strong it as compressed gas

[rustic crest]

the path is around 1 kilometer

[jagged nymph]

Ive belted over 2.5 kilometers before

[next ivy]

still acceptable

[icy sandal]

Trains are optional

[jagged nymph]

Mhm

[rustic crest]

okay i made cool road for belts

[next ivy]

i try to gather material in a rough 1km radius to 1 spot for processing

[real shale]

I make spaghetti factories

[icy sandal]

I dont like trains I dont understand trains and Im not willing to spend the 10 minutes it requires to learn

[rustic crest]

also if i delete space elevator will resources from it dissappear? like i have 203 smart plates in it rn

[real shale]

You would spend more time building the tracks for trains than you would learning how trains work

[jagged nymph]

Im currently bringing in 20 different nodes into my megafactory, and im only making steel and concrete with it

[storm hull]

i'm trying to ! but its expensive kind of

i am putting it manually 😭

i hope coal is clsoe to my base and such

[jagged nymph]

You wont be able to finish this game if you do that

[ornate saffron]

what is a acceptable belt/train or vehicle distance is a pioneers Discretion

[bleak valley]

Adding the constructors to my modular frames factory is annoying

[jagged nymph]

You have to automate stuff, hand feeding wont get you anywhere

[storm hull]

biofuel? coal i'll def automate it

[jagged nymph]

Oohh biofuel

[real shale]

Oh no

[jagged nymph]

Yeah you can't automate that

[jagged nymph]

What

[real shale]

Oh no

[jagged nymph]

What

[real shale]

You were supposed to say oh no so I could say oh yeahhhh

[jagged nymph]

Oh no

https://tenor.com/view/kool-aid-man-oh-yeah-gif-10117983411222945873

[real shale]

Guys my quantum Encoder arms are fighting again, any suggestions for AI counselling

[proven snow]

In my experience it's better to just handcuff them to a railing each to stop them

[ornate saffron]

@spare prism

Idk but this is no where near it

#screenshots message

[real shale]

If you aren't playing for more hours than are in two weeks you aren't playing

[proven snow]

Like about 11,000 hours, imo

[real shale]

Also I love the slight implications that this means FICSIT uses multiple AIs on the same machine rather than just one

[proven snow]

At that point it's time to try a new game

[real shale]

No, it's time to spend another 11k hours

[bleak valley]

#screenshots message progress is constant

[real shale]

Belt clipping spotted

[green fiber]

Use more AI Limiters

[spare prism]

I more so meant the last 2 week part lol

[bleak valley]

Nuh uh

The two on the left are on different levels

[toxic spruce]

Ive built my first aluminum factory and currently make 60 Alclad Aluminum Sheets and 120 Aluminum Casing per min. is it worth it to build a second floor and double everything right now or should i wait till i need more?

[opaque minnow]

The factory must grow

[proud leaf]

guys did i make a good coal factory #screenshots

still not finished btw

is it bad or good or medium

[fierce granite]

watch out for how much water per pipe you are trying to do

[proud leaf]

ehm there are like 50 pipes

will that be a problem?

i really don't wanna re do it

[fierce granite]

i see three water extractors, are they merging down to 1 pipe before heading to the coal generators? 120+120+120 > 300 for a single pipe

[proud leaf]

ye they merge into one pipe

that goes off into 4 other pipes and then

those 4 pipes split off into 8 pipes

[normal orbit]

can't do that

[fierce granite]

in the build menu you can see how much water 1 pipe can move through it

[normal orbit]

pipe have a rate limit like belts do

[proud leaf]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i am gonna cry

[normal orbit]

1,5 water extractors will feed 4 coal gens

in one pipe

[proud leaf]

i will see how it goes then cuz its not powered up yet

if it works it works if it doesn't well then

[scenic tinsel]

Bruh 9 over clocked water pumps , mk2 pipes felt into 3 generators : same scenario fed into 2 more generators and the water is filling but they’re not staying running? Am I doing something wrong

[fierce granite]

create a post in #1038092680493801533 and post pictures

[normal orbit]

probably, should make a post in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots

[scenic tinsel]

Will do

[tall lantern]

the obvious there is 9 overclocked extractors is a lotta water and might not fit mk2 pipes

[normal orbit]

mhm

[tall lantern]

especially when normally the ratio you want is 3 extractors to 8 gens

[normal orbit]

if 600 in a mk2 isnt flowing, maybe 2700 will :p

[mossy fulcrum]

default colour palette 😭

[proud leaf]

ima change it after i'm done okey

first i wanna earn then cosmetion

[zealous urchin]

neko neko

[tall lantern]

even 3 gens at max clock only need 45*3*2.5 = 337.5 water so god knows how you'd be having trouble feeding that with 9 extractors lol

[mortal ginkgo]

no.

[zealous urchin]

luci luci

iln iln

[rancid turret]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[rancid turret]

@proud leaf see here for examples

[proud leaf]

i feel so stupid now

[tall lantern]

5'd be 562.5 so you'd maaaaybe be running up against pipe throughput funsies, but 9 extractors would still be insane overkill

[rancid turret]

everyone makes that mistake, if they don't pour over the wiki before every decision anyway

[chilly mirage]

My dream: To get DLSS 4.5 with RTX Effects ON in game ❤️

[proud leaf]

well do u think mine could somehow work

[rancid turret]

that particular wiki search thing gets done like every hour lmao

[proud leaf]

or should i JUST REDO IT

[rancid turret]

you don't need to change much

[proud leaf]

trust me i do

[fierce granite]

if you have the main pipe splitting off into 4 pipes, you probably just need to change one of the water extractors to enter into the other end of the first pipe after the splits happen

[rancid turret]

two pipes in the middle instead of one, then two outputs left and right; no one segment would go over 300/min

[proud leaf]

ok but i want it underground cuz later there will be conveyor belts

or is underground not good

[rancid turret]

you're already at sea level so you can't really go lower

if you want belts under foundations that's a really common thing to do but you'll need to raise the coal generators up

[proud leaf]

but they are up there is a floor under it

or does it have to be more?

[rancid turret]

ah I see

no I just couldn't tell from the picture

[proud leaf]

ye

its not at the same level

[rancid turret]

yeah you can make that work, but you might need a pump to make the water go that high

[proud leaf]

hmm okey

thank you

[rancid turret]

coal and fluids are a big jump in complexity, we all been there

[jagged nymph]

I didnt realize how much 4320 limestone is

Doesn't help that the 9 nodes im using are spread throughout the rocky desert

[versed mesa]

Six days left all

[mortal ginkgo]

its a lot, but could be more. please keep in mind that limestone is the most important resource, especially ones coming from impure nodes.

tap ALL of them #nobias #trustme #consume

[ornate saffron]

For you. Many days for us main branch and console enjoyers

[mortal ginkgo]

go experimental! 😄

[jagged nymph]

Im starting to think impure limestone is part of the... whatever the sloops and Mercer spheres are involved in

[versed mesa]

Yeah ill not be going on exp I wait for public stable also so ive got to wait longer

[tall lantern]

exp ftw, might have to boot the game up and give it a whirl

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, lore confirmed, limestone is everything, tap it all

[jagged nymph]

Can I import all of it into a concrete plant and sink it all

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, make sure to use wet concrete recipe when you can, more concrete, more consumption = correct gameplay

make sure to tap on all impure limestone nodes, others are not that important

[jagged nymph]

Fine concrete

[ornate saffron]

Make that concrete think its a girl (or segy man) at the car wash.

[versed mesa]

Did yous hear the info about the next Gen xbox

[ornate saffron]

Other then it has a code name and is in the pipeline no

[tall lantern]

it is A Thing

[jagged nymph]

When they releasing PC 2 bro

[versed mesa]

Yeah its going tobeabke to play pc steam games also it will run like a gaming pc

[jagged nymph]

So... its just a pc

[versed mesa]

Console pc

[ornate saffron]

Yup, just a pc. As everyone has been saying for a year

[jagged nymph]

Thats literally just a prebuilt running an xbox os 😭

[ornate saffron]

Maybe just windows lol

[jagged nymph]

Yeah or something like steamos

[versed mesa]

So it will play xbox games also

[jagged nymph]

They arent doing that. If they did it'd be like 1k+ anyway

[jagged nymph]

So its just a prebuilt pc with a worse os

[ornate saffron]

I can totally see Microsoft saying its Xbox OS and it is just striped down windows with all the things that make it a versatile pc removed

[jagged nymph]

I mean the actual Xbox os is a modified windows

[versed mesa]

Yeah they saying it be like 1k or +

[jagged nymph]

Thats a really dumb idea

The point of a console is to be a cheap alternative to pcs for gaming

[ornate saffron]

Pricing will be rumors until it hits the shelves.

We are always near a "once in a lifetime financial crisis"

[jagged nymph]

But if they just release a pc with a custom os then why not just buy a normal pc

[versed mesa]

To still play old school xbox games on it is pretty cool still for those that want to

[jagged nymph]

I hope its better by the time im an adult

[versed mesa]

Backward compatibility

[jagged nymph]

You can do that on pc too already

[ornate saffron]

Me too (im 40)

[jagged nymph]

Some officially, some with emulators

[versed mesa]

Not xbox games on pc lol

[jagged nymph]

Which Xbox game can you not play on pc?

[mortal ginkgo]

Good idea. You are hired.

[ornate saffron]

This is the way. You know how I do

[versed mesa]

Idk ive never played xbox games on pc before but I think yous mean Emulator

[mossy fulcrum]

high seas, my friend

[jagged nymph]

Yes, some xbox games, particularly old ones, require an emulator to play, while some can be played directly

[versed mesa]

Ah really probably will need 1 extra thing right to allow it to play

[jagged nymph]

Which is what the xbox pc would do, it would just be an official emulator

Unless they remaster the game for pc

[versed mesa]

I know console games are main made on big gaming pcs any ways

Next gen is called project Helix

The only xbox ive owned is 360

[green fiber]

I had the original Xbox

It was a transparent, janky piece of junk where the CD drive never opened 50% of the time

[ornate saffron]

i feel the emotion behind thsi

[green fiber]

You wanna guess how i got the drive to open most of the time?

[ornate saffron]

from my experience Basss guitar pick

[green fiber]

No.

I SLAPPED THE SHIT OUTTA THAT THING

PERCUSSIVE MAINTAINANCE

I think I still have that thing hidden away in a drawer somewhere

[ornate saffron]

i didnt have one. but friends did. One day After practice i just used my THIC triangle ]pick to pry it open. then it wedged nice between the case seams for storage. There it lived

[green fiber]

My Gamecube sees more daylight than that Xbox does

[ornate saffron]

my psx,ps2,ps3 and ps4 just live in my ottoman with my gamecube and dreamcast lol

[green fiber]

Once a year i at least play the original Luigis mansion. Mostly around either halloween or new years

[ornate saffron]

i bust out Bloodborne a few weeks of the year. I play my legal copy through a emulater though

i cant be bothered setting up a console

[real shale]

I too know old games like uhhhhhhh....... Tetris, yeah Tetris

[ornate saffron]

my copy is still in my gameboy

[real shale]

I wish I was just slightly older to experience the era of Gameboy

[ornate saffron]

the only other games i own are Zelda DX and Metroid II

[real shale]

I just missed the Gameboy era

First console I remember getting my hands on was the original Nintendo DS and playing Pokémon on it

Oh and the original PSP too, playing FF Dissidia

[ornate saffron]

my psp is the only console that gets regular use

[jagged nymph]

7

[ornate saffron]

8

[reef basin]

I bought an emulator console and am still enjoying gameboy era 🙂

[ornate saffron]

thats essentially my psp

[proud leaf]

Sometimes wenn i play satisfactory my brain just breaks

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes wenn i play satisfactory my brain just breaks

[proud leaf]

hm?

[ornate saffron]

i spent the entire weekend trying to fix my fuild issues.

turns out i miss overclocked a packager...... i figured this out after rebuilding my pipes 7 times

[proud leaf]

hmm

right now i'm trying to evenly distribute items for my coal factory

and one conveyor needs 4 splits idk how to do that

[ornate saffron]

solids are easy, jsut use a manifold

[proud leaf]

i'm "new player" btw

idk what that is

[normal orbit]

liquids are easy, just use a manifold :)

[real shale]

Gases are easy, just use a manifold

[proud leaf]

IDK WHAT MANIFOLD IS 😭

[real shale]

Plasmas are easy, just use a manifold :)

[normal orbit]

a manifold is something which splits one input into more outputs

[proud leaf]

oh i know that but i want to split from one conveyor more then once and i want it to be even

so every coal thing gets the same amount

[normal orbit]

just make a line of splitters into each one

[real shale]

Even though there is only one plasma in the game

[deft drum]

That is called a balancer (o think that'swhat your describing), and the use case for balancers are limited more to low throughput items. For high throughput items like coal and water? Just use a manifold. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Manifold

[proud leaf]

will this work with a coal factory wenn coal takes stuff

[real shale]

Yes

[covert vault]

guys i made this junction here, but the signals tells me that they loop into themselves, any idea how to fix that?
#screenshots message

[deft drum]

Manifolds work for everything, the main issue is the stuff at the end might take some time to "spool up" but eventually the first machines will back up with input items and let excess go past

[real shale]

Could potentially be the signal bug, signals tend to be a bit funny if you place them at the merge points of two railways

The signalling looks fine from what I'm seeing, I don't see anything out of the ordinary

[normal orbit]

you can either move signals away from junction or try rebuild some tracks so it stops thinkign 180 degree turns are normal

[ornate saffron]

we have moved to #math-and-meta if you wana join us ^_^

[real shale]

Also a bit of a tangent, but be careful with that curve into train station, I can't see it from here but if you have two trains converging at that train station at the same time a collision does look possible

I recommend blocking that Y junction to prevent two trains converging onto the train station at the same time

[normal orbit]

that back curve going down to the station is pointless and going wrong direction. just a fyi

[real shale]

Oh I didn't even notice that path signal

[normal orbit]

cant see the other one from that side, but i assume it goes to the front of station which also means its wrong way

[real shale]

Actually

#screenshots message

That might be a potential cause of the error too

[west jackal]

sapphic i ended up rebuying on steam, ive owned it on epic for over 6.5 years and was tired of EGS

[cerulean garnet]

hello chat

[real shale]

Hello twitch streamer

[cerulean garnet]

how much did it cost

[west jackal]

also... crossplatform was NOT working for me. DeafBringer was joining to help with construction of aluminum plant and he couldnt join me, figured the 30% off sale was as good a time as any

[cerulean garnet]

im not a twitch streamer

[neat plank]

TFW your at work looking at spreadsheets and all you see in your head are ratios.

[west jackal]

i payed 40 bucks i think when i first bought it? it was on sale for 27.99 now

[real shale]

Hi not a twitch streamer, I'm nerdmojer

[west jackal]

lol felt that

[cerulean garnet]

hello Nerdmojer how are you on this fine day

[normal orbit]

boss going "what do you mean by this: 1 copper ore to 2.5 ingots"

[cerulean garnet]

damn still expensive for me and too expensive

[west jackal]

tbh

both times ive bought it put together is still less than its worth for me

ive probably put over 1k hours into satisfactory over the years, thats WAYYYYYY better than ps5 or other pc games ive payed 60/70 for and only gotten 60hr

[next terrace]

Hello :D

[ornate saffron]

i rationalize price by expected game hours. I expect to get 20 hours out of RE9 so i will not pay 96.99 plus tax CAD

i expected 600 hours or more so the $50 CAD was fine

[west jackal]

take ghsot of yotei (most recent game i bought at full price) according to google a completionist playthrough is around 60h, i think ive played it 40h and it was 70!

[cerulean garnet]

i havent even bought it once its 12$ for me and i cant even afford that

[cerulean garnet]

damn\

[west jackal]

Exactly! i have over 600 hrs logged on egs plus i played offline for a while so all those hours not logged (i think around 300) so nearly 1k hours!

[cerulean garnet]

good way to check games worth

[west jackal]

but i mean

[ornate saffron]

then you are best not to spend money on games atm

sorry to hear that

[west jackal]

sometimes enjoyment matters too

[ionic cipher]

someone have a blue print for this piece : Adaptive Control Unit

[west jackal]

like god of war, horizon, ghost, those were all fun, so im not upset that they were shorter, just that they werent near as good a price ratio as this!

[west jackal]

you know you can make your own blueprints with the blueprint designer!? Its fun to do and you can make it exactly how you want 🙂

[brazen pecan]

so I'm trying to put more water in my pipes, but no matter what i do IT WONT WOOOORK

[ornate saffron]

no it is a large complex system. it would need a Blueprint array.

best to figure it out

[ionic cipher]

yeah ik but this is hell to do this piece

[west jackal]

oh boy

[normal orbit]

they have a limit

[west jackal]

if you cannot do it, then you need to spend more time before you move on to next phase

[deft drum]

Mk1 pipes can only fit enough water for 300 m^3 per minute of fluid to go through it

[ornate saffron]

mk1 pipes can only move 300 units a minute

mk2 can move up to 600 units a minute

[ionic cipher]

nah i can do it but not whitout spagetthi and that trigger me

[cerulean garnet]

yea i made like 35$ friom reselling a phone but im connfused to save them for idk when or use rn

[brazen pecan]

i mean like when i split it it wont work, should i just not split it?

[cerulean garnet]

spagetti is why im rebuilding most basic factories

[west jackal]

place foundations and use "straight" conveyor mode to reduce spaghetti ness

also, sestup blueprints for each part

like i immediately make constructor/smelter blueprints.

2x4 constructor 2x6 smelters etc etc

[ionic cipher]

i have fun building them

[west jackal]

this allows for simplified building

[cerulean garnet]

elaborate , it might help me

[normal orbit]

splitting does it evenly. might need to give it a little push with a pump

[ornate saffron]

come join us in #math-and-meta its a better forum for this OR if you want more one on one with no interuptions make a post in #1038092680493801533

[ionic cipher]

i made a blue print for a modular motor

[west jackal]

i like to setup blueprints for different ammounts of machines, in example, i have a blueprint that is 2 rows of 3 constructors with the inputs and outputs tied, i use a logistics floor so the inputs come in level with the constructors and the output is under them. This allows me to easily place constructors and then go configure them for whatever item i need it to produce

I also have specialized blueprints, for example, i setup 2 blueprints that go together and can be tiled for aluminum

[ionic cipher]

so i should not rush to phase 4 thats what ur are saying 😂

[west jackal]

each bp takes 600 bauxite 180 water and 240 pet coke, it produces 1200 scrap, the fresh water and recycled water are kept seperate

[ornate saffron]

I mostly build pillars and such in Blueprints. I prefer manually placing machines and making up layouts as i go. I dont want every factory to be lines of machiens

[jagged nymph]

Insanity is doing the same thing many times and expecting different results

Why does discord always load so far back in the chat

[cerulean garnet]

damn its my first through and i haven't reached till aluminium

[jagged nymph]

When I open jt up

[west jackal]

you can play however you want, thats the beauty of this game, but there are sooo many ways to make to make life easier

[ornate saffron]

i swear i checked every machine for the math repeatedly. I even got a coworker to look (he plays too)

somehow we both missed a single Packager set to 33.333333 instead of 100%

[west jackal]

dont worry about aluminum yet then. id suggest (assuming you want to use them) setting up blueprints that you like. spend some time making them look nice, and make them so that you can easily tile/place many

[jagged nymph]

Your first playthrough is the tutorial. The second one is experimenting and learning what works. The third is when you play the game

[cold fable]

unlocks phase 4 and aluminum production:
step 1: reroll hard drives till i get sloppy alumina and pure aluminum
step 2: build aluminum factory.

Progress, I've rerolled 18 harddrives and havent gotten either of the two recipies 😭

[jagged nymph]

Lol

[jagged nymph]

How much aluminum are ye gonna make

[green fiber]

Bite the bullet and do it the normal way

[cold fable]

I plan on maxing out the 3 bauxite nodes in the swamp with mk2 miners

[green fiber]

Maybe the game will reward you once you start building aluminum so you can then tear it back down

[real shale]

oh my god, i praise thee Clarion17 whoever you are for this blessed power transformer blueprint you have bestowed upon me

[cold fable]

please no 😢

[rugged rune]

Do we ever expect a curved foundation type? Like something i can combine with asphalt skin for roads and stuff?

I know there is some stuff in the shopp

[normal orbit]

doubtful

[ornate saffron]

in the latest stream they said " our reasons for not having that in the game are becoming less stable" something like that lol

[normal orbit]

if they make a curved foundation, which radius should they make? someone will always be mad their specific degree of curve wont be featured. so why not do what we have now and let people do whatever curve they want

[ionic cipher]

is there a way to clear the world from any structur without restarting from zer o?*

[jagged nymph]

Scim

[bleak valley]

Have it be a two point placement you select the overall placement then select the curve by moving your mouse

[ornate saffron]

the question was more focused on making the easy curve builder mod a vanilla feature

[ionic cipher]

what is that

[jagged nymph]

Satisfactory calculator interactive map

[random burrow]

hello everyone im new to sattisfactory, my water source and coal are quite far apart, wondering if its easier to pipe water to the coal or belt the ore nearer to the water

[jagged nymph]

Belting thr coal is easier

Fluids are difficult especially for beginners

[ionic cipher]

yeaah and it can delete construction ?

[jagged nymph]

And long distances only makes it way worse

[jagged nymph]

IT can do anything you want it to pretty much

[ionic cipher]

and how can i get it i dont find it on google

[jagged nymph]

You can delete everything, mass upgrade belts, change machines clockspeed/recipe, anything relating to the save

[jagged nymph]

Its a website

[fierce granite]

SCIM is linked in #welcome

[ionic cipher]

huh

[jagged nymph]

Scim is a website

[normal orbit]

google "scim satisfactory" and it will be first hit

[ionic cipher]

ahhhhhhh i know the site but i didnt know that u could do that ty

[rugged rune]

It could function similar to conveyors or be its own material type that we can make from something silly like concrete and coal

[jagged nymph]

Yep click upload save in top right

[jagged nymph]

No, screws and stators

Cause stators are round

[rugged rune]

Oh, in that case, encased beams and adaptive control units

[jagged nymph]

Thats unreasonable though

Stators are easy to make

[rugged rune]

Anything past a constructor is unreasonable 🥲 i hate multi inputs, they hurt my brain

[ionic cipher]

is it normal if it load for 5 min +

[jagged nymph]

Idk

[normal orbit]

you gonna love phase 3, 4 and 5 then

[rugged rune]

I stop after phase 2 👀👀👀

[cerulean garnet]

i will try that for sure i have rushed into phase 2 and its time to mwake factories

[cerulean garnet]

i guess its 2nd one then

[ionic cipher]

yeah nvm my vesrion isnt supported

[covert vault]

they are for leaving the station

[jagged nymph]

What version are you playing 😭

[normal orbit]

they're still wrong way

[ionic cipher]

idk man 🤣

[jagged nymph]

It supports main branch and experimental

[covert vault]

so should i just put 1 entry and 1 exit from the station?

[ionic cipher]

imma wait i bit and play without it XD

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

this is wrong?

[west jackal]

I normally rush coal power, but yeah, use the tools at your disposal!

[normal orbit]

yes, right side tracks are going wrong way

[unkempt blade]

No it's a perfect amount of pink. I like it a lot

[rugged rune]

I rush foundations and then setup 16 biomass generators. Take my time, since i stop after phase 2 anyway 😆

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

this should be enough i guess?

ooh yeah i didnt notice that they were not connected xd

[normal orbit]

they're connected, just wrongly

[empty spoke]

should i already build my megafactory in mk6 belt design while being tier 7-8 or will it take way too long to hit mk6?

[covert vault]

ok keeping only 2 should be enough i guess

instead of making 4

[cerulean garnet]

I'm playing a coop for now and my friend made the coal power

[ornate saffron]

IF you are going against advice (avoid megafactories ) i suggest unlocking everytthing then building your megafactory

[empty spoke]

well this will be a tough one

[sick falcon]

ionized fuel isnt good because the power cost to make power shards is more than the power increase from rocket to ionized fuel right

[empty spoke]

can i insta focus mk6 belts after completing phase 4?

[ashen cradle]

I'm currently trying to create an aluminum factory. Where should I build this mfer? I have sloppy alumina and pure aluminum ingot alternate recipes so I don't need quartz for it. It's really hard to find a good location with Bauxite, Coal, and copper that isn't way out east in the swamp looking place. My main sort of base is the very west part of the map.

[empty spoke]

or is it way too hard

[neat plank]

FR like can't focus at work because my first Factorio is one Foundation to the South of where it should be.

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

[sick falcon]

no, u gotta do at least one other milestone first

yea 1 other milestone but its rly cheap

[ornate saffron]

did colors of the tracks change when you placed it

[empty spoke]

i mean i still gotta build the whole train hub i could try to craft the space elevator parts in the meantime

[ornate saffron]

how mant train stations did yo usettle on ? 20?

[fickle locust]

You can make an easy and small belt factory, just requires SAM ore and iron to make the trigons. You don't care that it's the slow recipe if you just let them fill up

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

[lime kraken]

how can i finde damages conveyor belts (often i have crashes because of invalid array sizes) with the interactive map?

[covert vault]

i dont think so?

[fickle locust]

Bauxite is generally located in hard-to-access places, typically you need to use trains to move it to an area with coal/copper/water and set up the aluminum there

[empty spoke]

24 yea, didnt think much about it tbh i just went with what my design allowed

[ashen cradle]

Ok yeah I was debating just shipping the bauxite

[empty spoke]

but i have enough space to scale up should it be not enough

[ornate saffron]

so sometimes when you place it and it happens to be where to rails meet it bugs and doesnt register. the tracks should change color when you place it

unless its the first on

[normal orbit]

none of those signals seem to be actually connected, i see no color change at all

[covert vault]

for now yeah its the first signals im placing on the track

[fickle locust]

On the west side you can do long belts into the crater lakes (lots of water, coal, and bauxite, only one nearby copper (though it is pure)
Or you could train the bauxite to the far northwest Nazca lines, pick up copper on the way, and all your coal is right there

[ornate saffron]

oh, so signals dont work in isolation. they are all or nothing minimum two to work but you realisticly want to space them 20-30 foundations apart. I aimn for one train length

[sick falcon]

@quartz magnet #screenshots message ts is majestic

[unkempt blade]

I agree, typescript is majestic

[cerulean garnet]

how does a person fly so high?

[ashen cradle]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. Thanks

[fickle locust]

I've also done this making a pure aluminum factory and then shipping the ingots to areas with lots of copper where I make the sheets and casing. That can help because whatever you're using the casing for probably wants other materials and you can choose the copper location that also has quartz/caterium/iron/whatever

[unkempt blade]

AGS or mods or use a jetpack or hoverpack

[ashen cradle]

This time around I'll probably just do the crater lake and belt the copper up into the area and make all of it in one place

[ornate saffron]

Signal break the rail into blocks. As your train approaches the signal the signal will check the next block to see if there is a train. If there is the train stops until it is save to proceed.
One signal means it cant talk to any. 2 means you have to large blocks so train a cant go anywhere

[unkempt blade]

can go anywhere as long as it's the only train

[covert vault]

ok i'll try to place signals between 2 stations and see what happens

[ornate saffron]

going forward i suggest Moving this converation ot #1038092680493801533 if you need detailed help

#math-and-meta for quick questions as we can share media there and we can actually talk

[weak bloom]

I'm using the west coast for about half the bauxite but I also have a truly nonsensical belt tower down the cliff lol
What I'm thinking for the remaining bauxite is train over to the east in the swamp and using the impure oil well over there for electrode scrap

[ornate saffron]

ERM ..... ACTUALLY!

lol

[ornate saffron]

i picture a belt spiral

then thought why not conveyor lift lol

[cerulean garnet]

ohk

[weak bloom]

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

the game is better if you decide to use only conveyors or lifts but not both

[real shale]

factory cart

[sick falcon]

only lifts??

[ornate saffron]

i now prefer my first thought lol

[real shale]

noooo the transformer blueprint was made in a mk3... i cant edit it yet

[unkempt blade]

ya

[weak bloom]

Who do you think I am, let's build it out?? 🙃

[sick falcon]

i wish the "days since last incident counter" in the hub didnt count respawns

[real shale]

well it was an incident

[sick falcon]

i want to know how long since i actually messed up and splattered on the rocks

[weak bloom]

Tbf using respawn as fast travel can be argued as an exploit lol

[ornate saffron]

I believe in you. You can be whatever you want to be .

(if you don't choose to be Batman you are wrong)

[weak bloom]

I still do it all the time

[unkempt blade]

resetting the count is an appropriate amount of game-shaming for this behavior

[weak bloom]

Yeah I agree lol

It doesn't work on me but it's there

[sick falcon]

i also play keepinventory in minecraft

[weak bloom]

I play passive creatures, keep inventory, and mod out spiders, I'm here for the factory

[ornate saffron]

Ive played both Extremes in games.

In satisfactory i like keep inventory, Creatures set to defensive

in 7 days to die i play hardcore

[sick falcon]

why are the non spider creatures so aggressive anyways, arent they herbivores

[neat plank]

I'm not a fan of the Spiders.

[unkempt blade]

yeah people should play how they have fun but I think it's ok for the game to tease you about some of it 😆

[real shale]

sigh guess im gonna have to load up a creative save to edit this transformer blueprint

i wish i could have like a squished power tower in vanilla that i could to emulate transformers without the clipping

[ornate saffron]

Moose are some of the most dangerous animals on earth during mating season. They are herbivores the size of a elephant. but will kill you during mating season on sight

I view the game similarly as its always breeding season because spawn times are so frequent

[sick falcon]

til the worlds largest wind turbine has the same power output as a biomass burner

[real shale]

75 MW?

[sick falcon]

26mw

[real shale]

oh

[ornate saffron]

26mw is the most power wind turnbine in the world

[sick falcon]

86% of a biomass burner

[real shale]

DFIG wind turbines are nuts

[ornate saffron]

if you dont watch Technology connections on youtube i suggest watching his latest video on solar.

[real shale]

Trivia moment for you, out of all of the components of a wind turbine, what is the most maintenance intensive

[ornate saffron]

humans that instal them

[real shale]

no, close but no

[unkempt blade]

all those teeth and no toothbrush 🙁

[ornate saffron]

I gaurentee MY maintence is the highest lol

[real shale]

it is one of the reasons why offshore wind turbines are designed differently than onshore

[sick falcon]

the stalk?

[real shale]

nope, its the gearbox

[sick falcon]

damn i thought that was too obvious an answer

[real shale]

it is why offshore windfarms run a direct drive system and synchronous differently than on-shore ones

[unkempt blade]

they have to be careful with the offshore ones otherwise the big fans will push sailboats onto rocks

[echo hemlock]

maybe this is the wrong place, but can someone who knows train signals check my railway in #screenshots , this shit aint workin

[tall lantern]

#1038092680493801533 would be the place

[covert vault]

alright, thanks for the help

[real shale]

oh my god i had a genius idea for my crane in the swamp

[quiet folio]

Yo i just bought the game on steam and i can't change the game language

any idea ?

[real shale]

#screenshots message

[echo hemlock]

stupid ass train signals 😡

[ornate saffron]

i dont know.

have you read FAQ and googled it?

[west jackal]

i havent ever done a full real coop, deafbringer is helping me with a factory now, but that like just happened

[unkempt blade]

Definitely don't subscribe to duolingo to solve your problem. Total waste of money

[wet dock]

what was the nickname for the space giraffe thick penguin whale thing?

[ornate saffron]

Steve?

or Bean

OR MOVE TF ALONG MF!!

[unkempt blade]

tall johnny

[gloomy tusk]

i hate blender movement

[leaden turret]

that sounds like a euphemism for [redacted]

[real shale]

#screenshots message Omg i like this actually

[gloomy tusk]

that is a cool crane

[real shale]

now to go into a custom save to edit a transformer blueprint

[zenith bear]

Studies have shown humans spend large amounts of time thinking about tubes

[leaden turret]

looks at primary school macaroni art
looks at commuting on the underground

seems legit

[ornate saffron]

well we are formed as a tube rather quickly. the first thing to form is a donut that stretchs to become your intestines.

you could say we are grown Ass to Mouth

[zenith bear]

I’d wager a lot of people never quite grow past that

[leaden turret]

-# this explains why a lot of people are full of shit

[sick falcon]

i do not fear moose, i have a prius

[proud leaf]

the ficist awesome sink needs soo much now for just 1 ticket idk what to do

[sick falcon]

ill just drive under it

[normal orbit]

thats what get you with moose accidents

[ornate saffron]

Feed it more complex parts. Phase 5 parts give you 2mil plus points

[sick falcon]

the venerable ballistic warp drive

[normal orbit]

long legs makes their body smash into the area where you're sitting

[proud leaf]

dude i'm at phase 1

[sick falcon]

then just progress the game i promise the tickets arent that expensive yet

[proud leaf]

ye well my coal factory is going better

just i am using mk 2 conveyors

and they are so expenisve for me

[sick falcon]

dont use mk 2s

theyre so much more expensive than mk 1 and 3

[normal orbit]

wat

[sick falcon]

only use them for like miners and screws

[normal orbit]

reinforced iron plates are more expensive than steel beams?

[proud leaf]

i mean i aready used like most of them for like most of my coal factory build so i should just use them all the way now

[gloomy tusk]

dont worry about it then

[proud leaf]

literally i need like 100 more and i a m done

[sick falcon]

imo yea 100%

at least early game, just bc theyre more complex

[normal orbit]

complex? its just iron

[gloomy tusk]

What

[real shale]

its...screws and an iron plate?

[proud leaf]

i heard there is a way to make screws obselete not needed

[gloomy tusk]

steel beams are easier then rip

[proud leaf]

how?

[gloomy tusk]

LATER

[proud leaf]

okey

[sick falcon]

alternate recipes, use the MAM to scan hard drives you can find at crash sites around the map

[proud leaf]

hmm ima do that later then

[normal orbit]

theres alt recipes which allow you make things without screws. like stitched plating making reinforced plates with wire and plates.

[proud leaf]

bc i would die so fast

[normal orbit]

find hard drives and scan em

[proud leaf]

okey thank you

[real shale]

OH MY GOD okay that would have been good to know about the whole "this blueprint was made in a different sized blueprint designer" i thought it meant the blueprint was too big to fit and needed a size up

fml i created this creative save for no reason

[sick falcon]

i dont understand why u cant load smaller blueprints in mk2 and 3 designers, just place it in the close left corner or something

[normal orbit]

yea, you can just place a smaller inside a bigger designer and save it, the other way doesnt work tho

[real shale]

welp i can edit my transformer blueprint now

[proud leaf]

what are slugs used for cuz i ready found alot of them use the MAM machine and now i got a crafting recipe i crafted one but idk what to do with it

[normal orbit]

cuz maybe not everyone wants it in the corner, or the middle, or w/e, just place it and you can have it exaktly where you want it

[gloomy tusk]

POWER SHARDS

[proud leaf]

idk what those are tho

[gloomy tusk]

they boost production rate e.g. smelters can now take 60 items and make 60 iron instead of having a max of 30

it is called overclocking

[normal orbit]

power cost goes up exponentially tho

[gloomy tusk]

linearly no?

[normal orbit]

newp

[rancid turret]

exponentially

but it's always worth doing on miners

[gloomy tusk]

do they not double power usage when you double consumption?

[rancid turret]

more than double

[sick falcon]

no, 200% overclock uses 250% power

[normal orbit]

BUT, all machines more or less go up same rate. so replacing something like 100 constructors with 40 at 250% overclock, will cost 34% more power for same amount of production in fewer machines.

[sick falcon]

and 50% overclock uses like 30% power or something along those lines

so never overclock, build 250 1% constructors instead

[hollow hemlock]

generators go up linearly, power consumers are on a different scale, 200% speed takes more than 200% power, 50% speed takes less than 50% power, it's yet another parameter you can tune to suit your wishes

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message why do junctions sometimes snap to the port im trying to line them up with and sometimes refuse to?

[normal orbit]

distance/angle and your own position

[rancid turret]

because diabeetus

[real shale]

man, i am in the nerd zone now, i am right at home making a transformer design of my own for this blueprint

[crystal pulsar]

so anyone know if theres a sure fire way to know which lift a merger is hooking to is the lifts are occupying the same space? ( 2 coming off storage on top of each other

[normal orbit]

yes, dont have two lifts occupy same space

[crystal pulsar]

figured it out but thanks for the troll 😛

[real shale]

oh god why is there a ladder on this transformer, that is a definite nono

[unborn nova]

how do the batteries work? say i got 1.5k mwh and im using 30k mw. does that just mean if i stop making power alltogether it would take 3 mins to drain the batteries?

[normal orbit]

gwh and gw* and yes it will drain in 3 mins

[olive chasm]

Kinda starting here, for load bearing factory’s are the smelters supposed to turn on and off, I have a 120iron output mk1 into 4 smelters an they keep turning off and on cause before the next one can come in it completes the previous iron

[normal orbit]

you have a tier 1 belt which only handles 60/min

[olive chasm]

Oooooh I never know the belts were different

[ornate saffron]

Batteries or power storage?

Batteries are fuel source for vehicles they go in the same slot as fuel or coal.

Power storage stores power if you make excess and then releases it if your max consumption overtakes your production

[quaint abyss]

Greetings fellow satisfactorians

[olive chasm]

So I limit it back to 2 smelters then and keep the 4 constructors or do I put those to 2 as well?

[normal orbit]

depends how much the constructors use

[olive chasm]

I’m making iron plates so I can make the elevator

I think their 20 a min I’ll have to double check

[normal orbit]

yea, so those take 30 ingots each, so you could only feed two of them with a tier 1 belt. while iron rods for example take 15/min and could feed four with tier 1 belts

once you egt tier 2 belts, you can use the full 120/min the miner provides

[real shale]

hmmmm how autism do i wanna go out on this transformer, do i want to go as far as making earthing transformers too

[regal tiger]

Im trying to earn the "What a Thrill" achievement, but the freighter from the hub disappears from under my feet, without taking me high enough. Is this a bug, or a deliberate change? Or am i stood in the wrong place?

[unborn nova]

mb power storage

[tall lantern]

yep, if you need 30 GW per hour, then 1.5 GWh lasts 1.5/30ths of an hour

of course the solution here is to build moar powah. power storage is an emergency buffer, that's it

and arguably you'd be better served by Priority Power Switches if available, since they can selectively shut down parts of your grid to bring you back within what you can support

[proud leaf]

so i am soo close to doing my coal factory and OMG 1 COAL IS FOR 15 MIN AM IN HEAVEN?

AND ITS AUTOMATED

i'm gonna cry from happiness I LOVE THIS GAME

I AM TO FAR DEEP THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[real shale]

oh wow

you know what unironically would make my transformer better, the goddamn pipeline t junctions

[proud leaf]

oh wait

[proven snow]

One coal is for 15 min?

[proud leaf]

i'm stupid

[normal orbit]

15 coal is for one min :p

[proud leaf]

its 15 coal each minute

STILL GOOD

[proven snow]

Still automated!

[proud leaf]

its automated now i feel stupid

[glad leaf]

thats slow

[proud leaf]

btw to startup the coal factory first i need to build one bio fuel machine just to start it up

right?

[cunning glade]

Chat as I get closer too my first full playthrough

[ornate frost]

depends on how many coal gens you have. just get one of them running and it should be okay

[cunning glade]

I'm getting more and more excited about doing a new playthrough in vr

It's gonna be so peak

[normal orbit]

you need to power at least one extractor to get some sippy into the coal gen (and the miner).

[cunning glade]

I should've done this playthrough in vr tbh

Cuz idk what I'm gonna even do in my next one

Ig there's like 134.4 nuclear pasta a min which sounds fun

Or I could max out warp drives ig i see people do that

[real shale]

a valve for aesthetic purposes, amazing, close enough to a buccholz relay

[glad leaf]

is it normal to have 5 awesome sinks active at once

[tall lantern]

yes

[glad leaf]

what about 13

[tall lantern]

more generally, it's normal to have one per production line

(though if you have multiple in proximity and it won't overwhelm, they can share)

[proven snow]

I like doing challenges throughout the run

[glad leaf]

why

[cunning glade]

Well yeah that's my plan like I'm aiming for a 112 ficsonium fuel rod setup and 60 pasta a min

But in getting close too the pasta

So idk what too do as a challenge for next playthrough

Probs just mods that make space ele harder and maybe consistently needs things

[tall lantern]

skip to T9, no raw resources except SAM and one basic convertable ore, start with 1 converter, finish game

[proven snow]

Throughout meaning challenges affecting the entire run. Wanting to make 60 pasta a min isnt gonna affect much when you’re at tier 1

[ornate saffron]

Congrates!

wait until you see the next power generation spike lol

[lusty granite]

Ficsit is happy with this opinion. You may now have a 10 minute break

ficsit made me say that. please help

[proven snow]

Add it to the -5431.82 hours of break time youve accrued by sleeping

[lusty granite]

you guys sleep?

[sick falcon]

yea going from biomass to coal is rly nice

[lusty granite]

project assembly must go on

[sick falcon]

no more worrying about manually feeding it

[loud surge]

not since friday (bought the game saturday)

[lusty granite]

going to fuel is even better

[lusty granite]

my friend told me in like 2022 to buy it and disnt like it. now i think the factory must grow

i even got some early supporter pack dlc

idk what does it give

[worn oar]

What kind of emotional support truck should I use? The tractor seems a bit too slow for exploration.

[loud surge]

RAN to steam to see if there was contenet to buy lmao

[loud surge]

blade runners, ficsit needs its pioneers fit

[tall lantern]

nah that was just given to people who owned the game pre-1.0

think it just has a couple pioneer cosmetics

[worn oar]

If I'm ever rendered unfit for purpose ADA will remotely disintegrate and reclone me as needed.

[loud surge]

flawless logic icl

[real shale]

the swamp discolouration is such a neat detail

[sick falcon]

there’s literally a vehicle called the explorer

[real shale]

wait what my entire blueprint didnt save... huh

some of it built in the swamp when i placed it in the blue crater...

[proud leaf]

MY COAL FACTORY IS WORKING

YAY 3 hours of it took me

and its done

now first i will wait for all the coal to go to the machines then connect the cable to my base

btw 8 machines should be able to power the 3 miners mining coal+ the 3 water exctrators+ 8 pipeline pumps right? then my base

[proven snow]

No longer shall you chase down leaves in the middle of the night to fix a power shortage!

Let’s hope your coal generators can keep up with whatever you build next 😈

[proven snow]

Yeah they will DEFINITELY power all the stuff used to run them. And then a bunch more too

[deft drum]

Yeah 8 coal generates 600 MW

For reference a single constructor consumes 4 MW, and an Assembler 16

[lusty granite]

nah, it was before the release of the 1.0 update

i think

[proud leaf]

OMG WOW

[deft drum]

Get a good stockpile of modular frames, encased industrial beams, and especially Wire to make some Power Storage buildings

[lusty granite]

wait till you get to nuclear energy 🥹✌🏻

[deft drum]

They can help smooth out any power spikes

[proven snow]

Spoilers

[proud leaf]

nah its okey i got spoiled about that in a youtube video

but might wanan hide it for people that don't know

[deft drum]

In the Lategame you can generate around ~140 GW (depending on alts) from 600 oil

[proud leaf]

WOW

I WILL BE SOO HAPPY

[lavish flame]

hey so, i just came back from being afk at my factory for a bit and somehow my concrete factory got completely backed up even though all the belts are fast enough to handle everything and i set an awesome sink down for the overflow 😭

[proud leaf]

now time to do math to see how much watts my coal factory takes

[deft drum]

If you use all the uranium on the map, you can generate 630 GW waste free

[proud leaf]

I LOVE MATH

[lusty granite]

wait how? im currently on tier 8-9

[deft drum]

Rocket fuel, under Sulfur in the MAM

[tall lantern]

I assume they mean from oil and a bunch of other resources

yeah thought so

[lusty granite]

spoiler! ||im on quantum encoding and im trying to still understand these things. i just got to nuckear energy||

[deft drum]

Well yes, just oil and water is 20 GW from 600 oil

[tall lantern]

good news, you can make a terawatt with 0 oil 😛

[lusty granite]

i know about rocket fuel but it can produce that much?

[tall lantern]

RF is strong

[proud leaf]

so my coal factory takes right now 107 watts so that leaves me with 693 for my base is that good?

[deft drum]

yes

[tall lantern]

that's a weird amount given coal gens give in multiples of 75MW by default, but it's a solid start sure

[proud leaf]

btw do power poles consume or just deliver energy

[tall lantern]

just deliver

and you can ride 'em with some later equipment

[proud leaf]

oh i used pipeline pumps so it added alot

but i am to lazy to change it now

[tall lantern]

pumps wouldn't change how much your coal gens use or give...

[deft drum]

#screenshots message

note the lack of power shards

don't do it without power shard

[normal orbit]

pumps consume 20mw each

they said its using 107mw and have 693 left, so 800mw total.

[tall lantern]

I would assume any pumps would've been counted in that 107 used

[tall lantern]

yeah, and 800 from 75s is unusual

[normal orbit]

which i admit is an odd number, would've expected like 600 or 750 or so

[tall lantern]

so I suspect either
a) math error (common, good to check and early)
or b) their biomass burners are still connected (but not producing) maaaaybe?

[normal orbit]

bio is 30, so then 780 or 810

[proud leaf]

it feels soo good to have automated power no more cutting trees or grabbing leaves oh it feels so nice i am so happy

[tall lantern]

bio on hub is 20

[normal orbit]

oh true

forgot about those :p

[tall lantern]

anyway. first auto power is great, now you can take it easier and spend more time planning than grabbing

[proud leaf]

can i show my coal factory to u all?

[tall lantern]

#screenshots

[livid knoll]

Sorry if I interrupt any conversations but does anybody know how to check IP address? trying to host a server but Idk how to

[eager palm]

"whatismyip" should do it

[livid knoll]

Okay

[eager palm]

Just don't go sharing that number publicly, especially on the internet.

[livid knoll]

Makes sense

Got the IP

[hearty flame]

is there any quicker way to change the conveyor type, like from mk1 to mk2

or do you js have to break everythin and do it again

[eager palm]

Enter build for higher mk belt, click on lower mk belt

it will replace the segment

[hearty flame]

tysm

thats gonna save so much time

[eager palm]

quick keybind => middle click current belt, hit E, click. That will upgrade the belt 1 tier.

[mortal ginkgo]

keep in mind that it does not do it all if your belt is segmented. its a replace tool not an upgrade one. so 1 piece of belt may be not be replaced, or when one is sneaking inside a splitter etc

[real shale]

finally my transformer blueprint is done, only takes about 750 steelbeams and more to construct but its done

[hasty mango]

anyone else got a unreal engine error crash while entering a saved world? happens everytime from downloading most newest updates

[proud leaf]

ok my coal factory is done had to fix some stuff cuz at first it was broken but now it all works

[mortal ginkgo]

this is an odd way of saying "loading a save" and more context is needed

[hasty mango]

im just loading a save from 2024 and unreal engine keeps crashing

[proud leaf]

time to drag the power all the way back to my main factory

[mortal ginkgo]

unless it is modded it shouldnt happen but alas, 1.0 happened long ago so maybe something got corrupted

[zenith pecan]

Yay, I forgot where I'm making computers 🤦‍♂️

[sick falcon]

my game keeps stuttering every time it auto saves and if i’m using my jetpack it stacks the momentum and sends me into orbit every time

[real shale]

#design-and-architecture message Man this took ages to edit

[mortal ginkgo]

happens to best of us

[normal orbit]

yep, get used to it :p

[proud leaf]

question what can i do about that poison gas the green one it is literally near my base very anynoing

[normal orbit]

throw a bomb at it

[crystal pulsar]

blow it up

[proud leaf]

i don't have bombs

[normal orbit]

should get some :p

[proud leaf]

...

[crystal pulsar]

then youre stuck til you get some

[normal orbit]

start by mining some sulfur

[proud leaf]

okey

thank you

[normal orbit]

(also coal)

[crystal pulsar]

MAM has 90% of everything youll want

[sick falcon]

mam doesn’t have toys for my power slugs and lizard doggos

[bleak valley]

Very unfortunate the global illumination lags my game bad when I build too big

This might be my sign to actually wall in my factories

[zenith pecan]

I have half a dozen factories that all depend on one another that I have still to build walls for, I'm still belting them up to wake up some serious production.

Aaaand supercomputers are back, that's the last void storage piece rebuilt!

[whole robin]

Is nuclear power good enough to only need a single impure uranium node to make large amounts of power?

[crystal yoke]

which setting removes the fog?

[ornate saffron]

i use SkyUI (a mod) to do it

[deft drum]

90 GW from that 300 uranium

[proud leaf]

OMG finally after so many times of it breaking my coal factory works man water in this game is confusing

[dense violet]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[proud leaf]

finally infinte power until it breaks for no reason

[dense violet]

some simple layouts for beginners and experts

[proud leaf]

i mean mine is simmilar just underground

and it goes up i know i know it is worse but i am to lazy to change it

[dense violet]

I'm not sure what you mean by that.
but coal gens are extremely robust. The only things you need to know are headlift and flow limits

so basically 1 extra thing beyond belts

[proud leaf]

hmm okey

[dense violet]

I'd be very curious to see what you were trying to do

[proud leaf]

i can send u a screenshot in #screenshots

[proud leaf]

if u wanna see it

goodnight or good day bc TIME ZONES

[whole robin]

That is a lot of power

[dense violet]

hmm ok well can't see the actual piping because its covered, but in general, feeding from below like you are does create problems, Even with coal gens sometimes

[whole robin]

But its also a lot of nukes per second i could be making 🤤

[deft drum]

you can also make up to 144GW from 600 oil

[whole robin]

Oh i know

[proud leaf]

Hmmm i will live with it i use those electirial things that move the water up

[dense violet]

pumps don't solve bottom feeding issues - otherwise I wouldn't hvae mentioned it if the solution was so trivial

probalby the only reason this is working is because coal gens are what are being fed

it's not impossible to bottom feed, but unless you know what you're doing it can be really frustrating

[normal orbit]

if you take that 300 uranium all the way to ficsonium, you'll make 210gw instead of 90

[tall lantern]

can also make over 200 GW from 0 oil ||if you just burn all the coal on the map||

but statements like this aren't particularly useful since what they do use is rather important 😛

[dense violet]

you can actually cut coal from your world entirely (if you don't include weapons) and even then you can use bio coal as temp production since you don't need ammunition on all the time

[proud leaf]

Okey well wenn i'm gonna remake my coal factory "not now" i will keep this in mind thank you

[dense violet]

I mean if it's workign it's working. No need. Just something to keep in mind for the future for systems that are less tolerant of botto mfeeding 🙂

[proud leaf]

Okey

😃

[dense violet]

basically there's easy and reliable ways to make fluids work

but those aren't the only ways to make them work. You can easily go off script but you have to accept you might spend hours to beat something into a shape that is stable

[bleak valley]

I had to give up on the way i was trying to make aluminum because the waste water

But it all works now and it’s pretty so it’s fine

[dense violet]

mixing fresh and waste water together can be obnoxious

[zenith bear]

Is there no way to dump water anywhere

[tall lantern]

not directly

[dense violet]

you have to process it someway first

[normal orbit]

can package and sink, or make wet concrete, or reuse it

[dense violet]

but it's very easy to reuse the waste water, as long as you don't mix it with the fresh

[zenith bear]

They should make an open pipe feature

[tall lantern]

you can package it or turn it into something like Wet Concrete, but those are the cowards way out unnecessary since you can just use the waste as part of the setup

[zenith bear]

So you can just spray water everywhere

[normal orbit]

its not hard to pipe it back into the intake, but it does require some knowledge on how valves work

[bleak valley]

This would require actual physics and would mess up the map

[dense violet]

why? it's a simple logistical problem to manage
In a logistical management problem solving game

[zenith bear]

True

Package and sink seems smart

[tall lantern]

nah

[zenith bear]

Course you need a packager and a ton of containers and stuff

[tall lantern]

that's just another way of adding more resources to a production line that doesn't need them

[bleak valley]

Looping it in was the easiest way tbh

Just had to reduce the amount of fresh water

[normal orbit]

package and sinking is something you can do, its not a good idea to do it.

[zenith bear]

What does the game want you to do with it

[dense violet]

even if you math the fresh and waste water exactly dumping waste into fresh is pretty unreliable

[bleak valley]

Whatever you feel like

[dense violet]

re: #satisfactory message

[zenith bear]

What options do they give

[tall lantern]

feed it back to the start of the same chain

[dense violet]

or feed it t oa new process.

[tall lantern]

might need to be careful how you do so

but the point is to use it

[bleak valley]

Make something completely unrelated with it like wet concrete, package and sink, reuse it in the same production

[normal orbit]

i just looked at the tools we had, and piping it back to the intake and just valving in the diffrence was the natural solution to me. worked great. been doing it lots