satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

Can doggo use jump
pads

[elfin idol]

in fact ive never even worn a hazmat suit

[sharp cairn]

yes

[lucid copper]

ive never lanuched myself up to the red area and tried to pick up uranium and died

[elfin idol]

i have however tried to pick up uranium ore and died shortly after

exactly

[lucid copper]

😭

[elfin idol]

and also softlocked my death box as well in the process

[sharp cairn]

have you ever went to get your death crate and immediately died to radiation a second time because you accidentally used the "take all" button

[lucid copper]

same

[lucid copper]

no i got all my things but uranium

[elfin idol]

thats it im too excited by the idea of suffering im loading sf+ back up 🗣️

[jagged nymph]

ive never spent like 5 hours making a 20/m smart plating factory on my first save after not playing for over a year and tear it down like 2 hours later

[lucid copper]

then died bc i didnt do it fast enough but still

[jagged nymph]

then scrapped the save

[lucid copper]

i never nuked myself after my lizard doggo brought me one WAY to early

[bleak valley]

Damn

Life of a pioneer

[jagged nymph]

im gonna be doing 20/m on this save tho anyway

[wise junco]

👀

[bleak valley]

I’m doing 10/m currently

[lucid copper]

if it aint broke dont fix it

brb

[bleak valley]

I had the same thing happen lmao

Frank gave me a whole ass nuke in phase 2

[loud surge]

how do you get a doggo??

[lucid copper]

take off your blade runners and drop a rasberry near one

[loud surge]

i literally only just got my blade runners thats wild lmao

thanks though

[lucid copper]

np

[bleak valley]

Blade runners don’t change anything

[lucid copper]

oh what

[bleak valley]

Just drop a berry next to them then pet them after

[loud surge]

is it messed up i got to jetpack before finding out blade runners were a thing?

[lucid copper]

my bad

is it bad i got the exsplorer in phase 2

im to tired to spell rn

[jagged nymph]

no

[elfin idol]

afaik the explorer isnt that good

[jagged nymph]

why would that be bad

[lucid copper]

idk

[elfin idol]

might as well just run around

[jagged nymph]

yeah i just travel on foot

[lucid copper]

yeah i never use it

[loud surge]

going by the tractor the terrain isnt gonna be good for driving tbh

[jagged nymph]

wait you have blade runners right?

[elfin idol]

tho car is fun for vroom vroom

[lucid copper]

but its cool

[lucid copper]

yea

[mortal ginkgo]

i dunno why he told you to take off blade runners... i got 7 doggos and never needed to take them off.

you put a berry on ground while they are looking at you, they get close to eat it and you tame them then

[jagged nymph]

good

[loud surge]

bro save some doggos for the rest of us, 7's just greedy lmao

[mortal ginkgo]

some peole literally got ALL the doggos. I am doing smol time kek

[lucid copper]

the tutorial that i watched said you had to

[elfin idol]

i just use doggos to farm coupons

[mortal ginkgo]

you got bamboozled

[mortal ginkgo]

that and get extra early goodies for MaM

[lucid copper]

i didnt have blade runners at the time so

[wise junco]

i throw nobelisks at doggos

[lucid copper]

BANNED

[mortal ginkgo]

go jail. make sure it is gulag. thanks.

[loud surge]

i neglected my MaM for too long these blade runners are sick

[lucid copper]

start doing sulfur bc boom

[jagged nymph]

yeah the mam is VERY important

[loud surge]

sulfur is next lmao

[loud surge]

all i did with it is deliver hard drives icl

[jagged nymph]

have you done any caterium? theres really really useful stuff in there

[elfin idol]

i force them into a conveyor system that carries them into the depths of a cave where they perish to a uranium node

(i dont but that would be funny)

[lucid copper]

like lights 🤓

[wise junco]

an idea was born

[jagged nymph]

mk2/3 poles, smart splitter, zipline

[lucid copper]

what have you done

[lucid copper]

and lights

[elfin idol]

i mean in theory it should work... 😂 idk if they actually die to radiation though ive never actually tested

[loud surge]

will smart splitter, split mixed material from a belt?

[lucid copper]

everyone should put a ticket in the awsome sink

[elfin idol]

ive never tried this

i will

[jagged nymph]

yes, but more importantly you can set an output as overflow

[lucid copper]

get the ||cyberwagon|| after trust

[jagged nymph]

thats a spoiler

[lucid copper]

sorry

[loud surge]

ive just been doing overflow at the end of my manifolds

[jagged nymph]

please put ||vertical bars around it||

[elfin idol]

thats an actual thing in game?? its in the awesome shop in sf+ i didnt realise it was base game lol

[jagged nymph]

thats not how overflow works

[wise junco]

i mean, it WORKS... but not as intended likely

[lucid copper]

yeah you have to put a ticket in the sink

[jagged nymph]

no it literally doesnt work

[dense violet]

the cyber wagon works exactly as intended

[lucid copper]

yeah its so fast

[wise junco]

🤣 I didn't mean the cyber wagon

[elfin idol]

not in my experience it can only turn in one direction

[loud surge]

tell that too all the extra coal i am turning into steel beams?

[jagged nymph]

i know but thats not overflow, youre just making your manifold longer

[lucid copper]

it can turn?

[jagged nymph]

only in one direction

[jagged nymph]

yeah thats intended'

[lucid copper]

wow best car ever

[loud surge]

i mean... its overflow unl;ess theres a differnt name for the coal thats left over after my generators are filled

[elfin idol]

its also bullet proof but if you drop a piece of iron on it it shatters

[lucid copper]

checkmark stamp is so helpful

[jagged nymph]

thats not overflow though?? youre just making a longer manifold.

overflow means if the output of the smart splitter gets backed up it sends the rest out of the overflow output

[lucid copper]

the windows are cracked on it lol

[jagged nymph]

so like if you have it before a storage contrianer you can make it so once your storage fills up the rest goes into an awesome sink

[loud surge]

the output of my generator manifold was backed up now the OVERFLOW goes to steel beams bro ahahhahaha

[jagged nymph]

thats still not overflow

[loud surge]

how is it not, its the same thing lmfao

[lucid copper]

k imma go now bye

[jagged nymph]

you jsut used to be overproducing coal, and then you added on to your manifold use the coal you were making before that you werent using

[dense violet]

if what you sent to the manifold AND the overflow for .. whatever , used exactly what you put on the belt, the smart splitter is not needed, the 'overflow' section would just be part of the manifold

the smart splitter is also not hurting your system thoguh

[wise junco]

i'd argue that since the overproduction is being sent elsewhere, it is still... overflow. it may not be how most of us would use it, but it's not not overflow because of that

[loud surge]

this guy flows over

[jagged nymph]

ok but were talking about smart splitter overflow, and hes saying thats the same thing as what hes saying, which is wrong

[bleak valley]

If you put the smart splitter at the end the overflow function acts the same as the any function since there isn’t a blocked path to overflow off of

It’s just a normal splitter basically in that scenario

[dense violet]

you can have the as many different processes attached to a manifold as you like. Still just part of hte manifold

[wise junco]

the only thing i'd say is it sounds like the coal is being used as priority for generators with overflow being sent to production. if the system isn't perfectly clocked i can see it being a legit use case

[jagged nymph]

but you wouldnt say "the second half of my manifold is overflow because the input overflows from the first half into the second half"

[jagged nymph]

but its not priority into the gens though

[wise junco]

we could get into a real philosophical discussion about what overflow is 👀

[bleak valley]

If they wanted it to actually use the overflow the smart splitter has to go before the manifold

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[wise junco]

i'd argue that all conveyor splitters are just equally splitting overflow, smart splitter just allows you to section it off

[bleak valley]

I learned this recently so I can have storage bins full of items and still use the item

[loud surge]

not priority but the gens are all perfectly locked at 100 coal, the rest of the coal is then used for steel

[jagged nymph]

no thats.... thats no overflow, its just splitting

[wise junco]

what's the difference between overflow and splitting? isn't everything really just overflow until it's used?

if i set up a manifold, yeah? 3 machines. machine 1 will fill up before machine 3. so... machine 3 is technically getting the overflow from machines 1 and 2

[bleak valley]

That’s just the intended path of the material…

[dense violet]

Overflow is generally stuff that isn't needed but has to go somewhere. Even to a sink

[jagged nymph]

i get that but that is not overflow. Would you say that the second half of your generators is overflow because it gets the rest of the coal leftover from the first 4? no. Its just getting split into there. Same thing with your steel. Youre jsut splitting it into the gens and the steel using a manifold. Not overflow. You could make some argument that you could call it overflow but what youre saying, that youre using the end of a manifold as overflow, and saying thats the same as smart splitter overflow, is incorrect

[bleak valley]

This has become a conversation of personal definition of overflow vs the games definition

[wise junco]

i look at overflow as just excess at a given point

[jagged nymph]

but if youre gonna refuse to listen to an explanation and just say youre right because youre right then im not gonna continue explaining it to you

[loud surge]

started that way ngl lmao

[bleak valley]

It doesn’t really matter how you see it the game has a set thing it calls overflow and it’s treated a specific way

[jagged nymph]

thats not what smart splitter overflow does though

[wise junco]

it does. it handles excess 👀

[jagged nymph]

you cannot do the same thing as smart splitter overflow without either a smart splitter or programmable splitter

[jovial yoke]

its my first time on satisfactory bros, i cant start the game xD

[humble osprey]

hey wait a second. when ur manually mining a node the beating kinda sounds like the tune of "we will rock you"
i always thought that was a coincidence but was that intentional??

[loud surge]

first time trying to play satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

i mean its just
beat beat beat rest beat beat beat rest beat beat beat rest

[bleak valley]

It took me 90 hours to learn what splitter overflow actually is don’t worry

[jovial yoke]

i cant lanch, the game said i need a plugin xD

[humble osprey]

the last beat is different from the first two, exactly like in the music

[jagged nymph]

i doubt thats intentional

[wise junco]

i use overflow all the time. i'm not saying i don't know how to use it. i'm just saying in a more philosophical sense.. overflow occurs in the game very naturally, smart/prog splitters just allow you to handle overflow in a specific way, not that they introduce the concept of it

[jagged nymph]

ok but thats irelevant because what he was saying is that he is using the end of a manifold as overflow and that it is the same thing as a smart splitter overflow setting, which is wrong

[loud surge]

its doing literally the same thing bro, maybe not in every instance of what i did there but in this instance it is literally overflow

[jagged nymph]

no it literally isnt

[unreal sand]

What should I do about oil

[wise junco]

if you have a regular conveyor splitter that goes to a DD and a sink, they're 50/50 splitting the overflow, yeah?

if you smart split it to prioritize the DD and then overflow to sink, then the DD fills up then the sink

over enough time, the end result is the same and the DD fills and the sink receives all input

it's semantics

[unreal sand]

Should I set up some extractors and pipe the oil to my main compound?

[loud surge]

make sure you have blade runners before you do lmao

[bleak valley]

In this instance none of it is extra your just mining enough coal to supply both
Overflow usually is your making less then enough to supply both so you smart splitter when the coal fills up since it’s priority then after that it sends any excess on the alternate route

[loud surge]

piped mine 2000m

[unreal sand]

Already do

[unreal sand]

Same on my old save

[wise junco]

he nowhere said there is enough coal for both sides to be fully efficient, which was my original point - if coal gens were prioritized and the surplus sent to foundries, totally legit use case

[jagged nymph]

if youre overproducing coal then yes the output is the same but if you have the function
f(x)=2x
and g(x)=x^2
you wouldnt say theyre the same because
f(2)=g(2). Yes, they have the same result on that specific input, but they are not the same function

just like in your case. Yes, since youre producing more coal than needed for your gens, it will have the same result, but then the overflow splitters wouldnt really be using its overflow feature, it would act as a normal splitter.

[jagged nymph]

not how a manifold works

[wise junco]

exactly, so it would be overflow processing using a SS like he did

[jagged nymph]

no hes not using a smart splitter

[covert vault]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480365408136728606/1481108060914192486/image.png?ex=69b21cdf&is=69b0cb5f&hm=ca9610805ff99ce6b8ca2b795159bbcd7636f7b8c2b9299ae32d20d028a3c9be&

how do you think i should put the station here?

[jagged nymph]

hes saying that if you just grab a belt off the end of a manifold it does the same thing as a smart splitter on overflow

[unreal sand]

Oh no math!

[bleak valley]

Post it in #screenshots and link the message

[jagged nymph]

?

[unreal sand]

Being funny

[covert vault]

#screenshots message

[wise junco]

if the input exceeds what can be used by the current machine line... it IS using overflow from the current manifold. we can all look at it differently, but i look at them as subsets of a bigger system

[unreal sand]

How’d you make that curved

[elfin smelt]

it's satisfactory jargon

[jagged nymph]

ITS NOT DOING THE SAME THING THOUGH 😭 😭 😭 😭

[bleak valley]

I don’t know anything about train efficiency but I hope you get help

[covert vault]

blueprints xd

[jagged nymph]

wtv im done with this yorue not gonna accept that theyre different even though you can literally test it in game and see

[covert vault]

[unreal sand]

Witchcraft

[covert vault]

lol

[wise junco]

let me pose a counter question

if you limit output from manifold 1 to manifold 2 by belt speed, are you still using m-1's overflow by prioritizing m-1 by limiting its excess drain?

[flint valve]

Anyone else having an issue with trains? My sulfur train just gets stuck docking at the pickup station and never leaves until Manually cancel the docking

[loud surge]

nah bro , your thinking about it too much now, i build miners on coal by water, built gens for said coal, the coal backed up, i sent the overflow to steel beam contry

[elfin smelt]

you can call what it whatever you want, just be aware that not one calls that overflow, and you are going to make everyone else confused if you use that word when theres another mechanic that already uses it

you're just being pedantic for no practical reason

[wise junco]

overflow as a noun and overflow as a function of a smart/prog splitter are different things and i think that's where a lot of the hangup is, tbh

[loud surge]

man i just asked about a differnt function of the splitter and then it all went off 😭 almost scared to ask what the programmable splitter does

[elfin smelt]

now you are being even more pedantic

[bleak valley]

Programmable splitter lets you designate multiple items per side

[wise junco]

overflow as a general noun in the game is the excess of goods on the line

overflow per the wiki as a function of smart/prog is solely referring to it being the only remaining unplugged output

[bleak valley]

So you can have iron and copper ore going one way and coal going another

[loud surge]

so thats the one thats gonna fix this one conveyor belt with 4 differnt items on it?

[wise junco]

IT SURE HELPS

[bleak valley]

That and one extra smart splitter to seperate the two after it will help a lot

[wise junco]

sushi lines are tougher but save a lot of space if you do 'em right

[bleak valley]

You could do it right now with two smart splitters if I’m thinking right

[loud surge]

thats sick, i really didnt wanna run 4+ belts for 2000m lmao

[wise junco]

i agree

[bleak valley]

Have the first smart splitter send specific items left and right then overflow forward then a second one splitting the other two items

I believe this works but I can’t test currently

[elfin smelt]

don't worry no one here is holding pitchforks||...yet||

[wise junco]

i don't see why it wouldn't

just make sure your belt speed can handle it. low throughput, no problem... if you're belting tons of ore/ingots it could get bogged down

[loud surge]

bro i can feel one on my neck istg, i just wanted to fix a mess i caused by being lazy and made a comment about some extra coal then bam, whole discords rioting

[proven snow]

I'd say simplest is just to produce stuff with oil where it is

But honestly just preference

[sturdy trellis]

halo

[proven snow]

hello

[tranquil bolt]

At what point in the game is it more beneficial to have several factories where the resources are and then use trains and drones to bring the materials in vs having several mega factories? Is it even more efficient to have many little factories and then train in materials where they need to go?

[wise junco]

I'm a big fan of independent factories pretty much universally. As long as you dedicate some time into train infrastucture, it's super easy to manage

[tranquil bolt]

Im on tier 8, last mile stone of it, if that helps

[jagged nymph]

thats completely up to personal preference

whatever you enjoy more, or is easier

[ornate saffron]

Many different styles of play.

I prefer to make factories independent. And if I have to move items I want it to be its most dense.

For example why move all the ore i need for heavy frames when I can just u
Move heavy frames instead

[dense violet]

really depends on how you like doing things

with planning location and recipes you can make very high end items almost entirely on location

[dense violet]

imo? treat everything before you finish the phases as a tutorial, then decide what your personal projects will be and how you want to do them - there's lots of styles, that will require more and less efforts in differnet ways

[late pumice]

Who loves Satisfactory

I am currently nearing nuclear power production after 200 hours..

[tranquil bolt]

Im just not really sure. First go round in the game. I have 2 larger factories (one in the mid west in the ocean near where theres a good bit of oil, and on in the south west) with a small train running between the 2, tons of belts everywhere, and im starting to forget where everything is. Its really not working nor is it organized.

[bleak valley]

I hate all 100 hours spent (obvious joke)

[late pumice]

But I have to get the alternate recipes for Aluminum so I can make the factory

[ornate saffron]

I hate myself. This is why I have 1000 hourrs

[late pumice]

It’s going to be the biggest factory I would’ve ever made

[dense violet]

the first time you do anything in the game tends to not work well xD

I restarted a few times going up the tiers. Helped me, but not for everyone

[late pumice]

50x50 factory lol

[bleak valley]

I just restarted recently to build independent factories

I’m having way more fun so far it’s more simple to understand

[late pumice]

And 50 floors

For just a aluminum production line 😂

[loud surge]

just started on saturday and can already see the benefits of a restart, not a fan of tearing things down to build again, would rather a blank slate lol

[wise junco]

that's a pretty big one

[late pumice]

Question for all

[wise junco]

similar to cobalt, I did this a couple times coming through the ranks. once youve played a while and seen a few things, you go "uhhh i really wanna do this all different now"

[late pumice]

What part of the map do you think I should put the gigafactory at..?

[bleak valley]

Go high enough in the sky and build over the entire map

[dense violet]

imo it really helps polish basic skills

[loud surge]

i would do so much differn't if i restarted, theres so much spaghetti and i never leave enough space for expansions

[bleak valley]

I waited until halfway through tier 8 to restart

[ornate saffron]

People here generally uses the term Megafactory for a factory that does everything all in one place.

I suggest blue crater as it has a little of everything

That being said if your goal is to tap as many resources as possible the first maybe the best choice as its close to the center

[bleak valley]

But doing it sooner probably isn’t too bad for you if you can handle it

[dense violet]

hey, maybe a fresh restart would do you good - and if you like sand box games and doing your own projects it'll really help you with the basics

[tranquil hemlock]

Ok, so; I have aluminium ingots coming in, and we can make the alclad sheets and the casings with them. However, there's also several locked recipes. Is there a way I can tell if these locked recipes are going to be alternates or if they're going to be necessary things?

[dense violet]

locked recipes?

do you mean the next milestone?

[tranquil hemlock]

Hidden

[dense violet]

there's alt recipes for ... almost every object I think

[weak bloom]

why is there so little caterium close to copper 🙁

[dense violet]

what do yo uneed the cat and cop for?

[weak bloom]

trying to find a good place for AI limiters and crystal oscillators

[loud surge]

itts mighty tempting, i might also just run apower line to a new area and start something fresh there lol

[weak bloom]

er, high-speed connectors and oscillators

[ornate saffron]

Blue crater has both near

Just north of it near the iron

[bleak valley]

That’s also a very good option keeps your original flow of items but lets you expand easily

[tranquil hemlock]

Like, I search for the ingots in the database thingie, and it shows what the ingots are used for and what makes them, but it has a bunch of recipes that are hidden, and I'm unsure if that's because I need them for something necessary or if it's unknown alts

[ornate saffron]

Most likely alts

I try to collect all recipes before changing phases

[bleak valley]

I go on a big hunt right after starting a phase to get some new alts immediately

Question are the drops around the crashed pods random?

[dense violet]

an option 🙂 you could also use the save editor to just wipe the map clean but keep your progress? lots of options

[loud surge]

Yep, a fresh start without completely going back to square one

[dense violet]

the save editor is also an exploration spoiler

which. I love the exploration so I'd see that as a drawback

[ornate saffron]

No

[loud surge]

Yeah the exploration has been fun and now that I've discovered the blade runners I would probably like to find a nice space to build some giant factory

[dense violet]

use radar towers, helps plan with the locations of nodes

[bleak valley]

So theoretically I could find one with an item I need around it if I searched correctly

I just wanna be able to scan for crashed pods already lol

But I need plastic

[swift turret]

yes

[jagged nymph]

one of the drop pods has a supercomputer you can sink for like 20 tickets early on

[proven snow]

I assume you can with radar towers, basically

[swift turret]

theres also a few with turbo motors that gives 66 tickets early

[jagged nymph]

ooh i didnt know any had turbomotors

[bleak valley]

I don’t have radar towers yet

[bleak valley]

I’ve found a good few with turbo motors actually

[swift turret]

a lot in the bamboo forest and dune desert

[forest tangle]

Is this pipe layout acceptable? like will it work, or do i need more stuff?

#screenshots message

[covert vault]

#screenshots message
@sinful roost what is this map?

[jagged nymph]

who knows

we dont even know what youre using it for

[swift turret]

acceptable how

[dense violet]

it's not hooked up properly

[ornate saffron]

The only one I have memorized is the location of is circuit boards

[bleak valley]

The interactive map on satisfactory calculator
You upload your save and can see your buildings

[dense violet]

but also you can't really load balance fuilds

[forest tangle]

Fair, i'm splitting water 5 ways into Coal Plants

[loud surge]

Will be unlocking them soon, I see them in MaM lol

[dense violet]

the other thing to worry about is you've got your main input pipe angled down at the junction? you probably want it straight into it for tha section

[bleak valley]

Well your one of the smarter players I know so now I’m out of luck

50 awesome tickets to whoever finds me 50 plastic in the overworld

[swift turret]

you need 3 water extractors which is about 360 per 8 gens

[jagged nymph]

why did you say about

[forest tangle]

I have 4 water extractors total, going into a total of 10 PP

[swift turret]

?

[bleak valley]

Your pipes can’t handle the throughput

[jagged nymph]

its exactly not about

[ornate saffron]

I dont know about that lol. I just play a lot and my adhd makes some things stand out while I ignore others.

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[bleak valley]

I was actually thinking of this image earlier thanks

[ornate saffron]

These r the recommended layout for a reason

[forest tangle]

I have 2 extractors pumping into this set, and 2 extractors pumping into another set

[forest tangle]

Saving this

[bleak valley]

That works but you should probably just do a manifold instead of the splitting thing your doing

[ornate saffron]

You can follow the link to the wiki. Lots of good info

I know to bot commands I use them often lol

[bleak valley]

They are very helpful commands

[jagged nymph]

i hate having a prime number of machines to place

[bleak valley]

Same

[jagged nymph]

caause i either have to place them all in one line or have one of the groups different than the others

[bleak valley]

It always looks a bit wrong

[jagged nymph]

i mean i guess i could clock one to 50 percent and add another at 50

[bleak valley]

Especially having the manifold stretch on one side

[jagged nymph]

i mean small numbers like 3 or 5 is okay

but like 19 machines? really

[covert vault]

oh alright thank you

[bleak valley]

That’s a gross number

[storm hull]

on my first playthough 6.4 hours in and i finsihed the phase 1 of the space elvator! only thing i despise is putting biofuel in my biomass thingies!

[bleak valley]

I’d recommend researching coal power :) helps alleviate that basically completely

[jagged nymph]

back in the old days you had to manually put it in... the burners didnt even have a belt input

[bleak valley]

Automating the biofuel probably would’ve made it easier huh

I just brute forced my way to coal so I didn’t have to deal with it anymore

[jagged nymph]

i spent like a while on phase 1

[dense violet]

you're meant to. It'll push you to automated power 😛

[frosty sedge]

Anybody got a good youtuber or sum I desperately want to learn more and how to make a nice factory

[dense violet]

what aspect of 'nice' are you looking for?

[frosty sedge]

One that isn't a flat platform I just unlocked all the stuff in the the awesome shop for like conveyors and want to do something with em

[dense violet]

totalxclipse has a lot of good general design videos

a lot of it though is just practice and planning 🙂

using foundations as walls can help too, give depth and more options

[frosty sedge]

I do have some ideas but like I don't get how people actually do it

[dense violet]

having different buildings and angles to each other does a lot of work without much work

[dense violet]

his videos are pretty clear, I recommend him 🙂

[frosty sedge]

Because when u have a set factor u can't expand

But yea Ty I'll check him out

[dense violet]

the trick to that is that you dont' expand it, you make another. Maybe next to the other one

but in general if you want really high grade aesthetics?
you want to plan the whole thing out to end point, and then just leave it

putting patches on things makes it much harder to make look good

[frosty sedge]

Not even high grade I just want some practical walls and like to learn how to use multiple floors

[dense violet]

yup! check him out 🙂 if you do some basic searches in YT I'm sure you'll get a few hits. He's the only one I can think of by name

[frosty sedge]

I'm struggling even with basic stuff I need to revamp everything but

Ty much appreciated

[static phoenix]

Making a factory nice takes soooo much time

I want them but I don’t want to spend ages building

[dense violet]

remember, practice and planning. And I mean planning.
figure out where each section of machines are going, how they feed each other, what your foot paths will be, ect

[dense violet]

practice makes it faster if that helps?

[static phoenix]

Yea ofc

But rather spend most my time building stuff

[dense violet]

this took me 250hrs, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1422083401111965697/image.png?ex=69b19d9f&is=69b04c1f&hm=4d8bab411a5cf14cbb7360e2e3395dc6cd5957a315bc6b9b3e115236b7adcee6&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

but I could probably remake it in less than 50hrs now that I know what I'm doing with it

[static phoenix]

Just recently finished factory that makes 12 rocket propelled stuff per minutes whole thing takes like 30K mw

[dense violet]

probably a lot less than 50hrs tbh

[dense violet]

reasonable 🙂

[static phoenix]

That 250H is more than my entire playtime in this game

[frosty sedge]

I have another question I feel like the game is going by to quickly

[hybrid nymph]

why? What tier are you on?

[dense violet]

I was just learning how to do circles xD

[frosty sedge]

I just finished phase 3 70h in and obviously I'm not close to completion of the entire thing but it just feels like I'm rushing even tho I seriously trying not to I see some people with like 200 300h on the game still going

[static phoenix]

Yea I saw clip on how someone did it but I forgot it

[dense violet]

well, the phases are really more like a tutorial

[static phoenix]

I think I completed the game first time in 100h?

[bleak valley]

Each phase is longer than the last

[dense violet]

this also ^

[bleak valley]

Phase 4 has some big requirements and a good few new things introduced

[static phoenix]

I feel like that’s super fast but idk

Looking at others

[bleak valley]

I have 100 hours on one save and I’m barely starting phase 4

[frosty sedge]

First play through how come u play it multiple times it's the same thing right

[bleak valley]

You get better and better the more you play it and some people make their own goals and challenges

[static phoenix]

But how does it take people that long

[frosty sedge]

I want it to take that long

[bleak valley]

I spent a lot of time reworking and planning factories to be very efficient

I rebuilt my starter factory from scratch to make it better

[static phoenix]

I just had spaghetti at first

Rebuild them later tho better using foundations

Didn’t know they could make stuff so neat

[dense violet]

you can restart fresh and polish your skills?
but most of the game, imo, is planning your own projects post phase 5

[bleak valley]

That’s what takes all the time lmao

Doing spaghetti is quick and easy

[frosty sedge]

Wait huh post phase 5 thought it ended at 4

[static phoenix]

I know but for the phase farms are much smaller

[bleak valley]

Nope you got an entire extra phase :D

[static phoenix]

Like my current factory is soo big

[dense violet]

5 phases with 1.0 coming out

[static phoenix]

Probably took 50h?

[frosty sedge]

So what it's like 12 13 tiers in total?

[bleak valley]

Only the 9 tiers

[dense violet]

yeah the last phase only has the 1 tier

[bleak valley]

Phase 5 is a take everything you have and make a massive factory

[frosty sedge]

Oh ok that makes me feel a little better about the pacing

[bleak valley]

Decorating also takes a long time if you do that too lol

[static phoenix]

I want to colour them

[bleak valley]

Yeah the end of phase 3 moves kinda quick if you have stuff set up right

[static phoenix]

And put some decoration

Like pillars ect

Liek my nuclear facility

[frosty sedge]

That's another thing I keep messing up my factories so after I phase I need a new one

[bleak valley]

Making a bunch of different factories across the map is actually the recommended way to play

Trying to make everything in one location can get complicated very fast

[unreal sand]

Radar towers?

[jagged nymph]

man the parts are so detailed

like the steal beam looks so good on belts

it has little scratches and chips and the dust in the corners

[unreal sand]

Honestly I’m not a fan of the parts made only for the space elevator

[jagged nymph]

why not

[unreal sand]

I understand why they did it but I don’t like I have to make all this advanced crap that’s absolutely useless

[jagged nymph]

thats another thing, im glad they made their game have its own style. Every game these days made in unreal looks... the same

[unreal sand]

Yes they did

[unreal sand]

Mhm

It’s my favorite factory game

[jagged nymph]

yeah its pretty satisfying
satisfactory even

[unreal sand]

Yep

Also while being relaxing it’s also insanely stressful and probably shortening my life span

I bought it on steam the only valid game store

[west jackal]

i mean.. thats the whole point of elevator parts 🙂

[unreal sand]

Heresy

[west jackal]

i bought it on epic only bc it wasnt available on steam when i bought it 🙁

i just dislike egs

[unreal sand]

I already make a ton of advanced stuff that’s actually useful

I’m not serious just being funny

I don’t care what you use

[west jackal]

again, the whole point is the challenge, and forcing you to work for it!

[unreal sand]

I already am working to make everything else

[abstract flint]

why is quartz node so hard to find

[west jackal]

you talking about steam/egs? or elevator parts

[west jackal]

its not! you can scan for it when you find a little.

they are very spread out 🙂

[unreal sand]

I know a few locations

[abstract flint]

yeah but node are just nnot on the location i scanned

[west jackal]

Dont leak it, its their decision if they want to be told, there is also a map that shows where all nodes are, but id suggest loooking for yourself first

[unreal sand]

We need asbestos in satisfactory lol

[west jackal]

what?

if you scan for quartz, itll take you to quartz

[abstract flint]

nope

[west jackal]

yes

[abstract flint]

i saw a locartion it said i was on it and it just wasnt there

[west jackal]

i promise you, if you go to where the scan takes you, it WILL take you to quartz

[unreal sand]

No valve just makes a great product that everyone wants to use

[west jackal]

i mean, maybe, i think that antitrust is complete bullshit, they are gettig in trouble because customers like their product

[unreal sand]

Except you clearly

[unreal sand]

Yeah

It’s made by the same people who made the kids online safety act

[west jackal]

i understand they did some not amazing things for game devs, that sucks, but its their right IMO to charge whatever fees they want to be part of their ecosystem?

[unreal sand]

It’s less than like epic games

But I do agree it’s still high

[abstract flint]

guys pls im on a node according to the mscan

[west jackal]

send pic in screenshots

[unreal sand]

Underground

[west jackal]

i promise you, if you went where it told you, then you are on the node

[abstract flint]

done

[bleak valley]

Cave

[abstract flint]

whhheerrrr

[bleak valley]

Down

[abstract flint]

thers no entrance bro

[bleak valley]

The caves are pretty big entrance won’t be right next to it

[west jackal]

that one is under

[bleak valley]

What part of the map are you in

[west jackal]

patate you can explore or i can tell you the entrance

[abstract flint]

the second one when you choose

[west jackal]

id recommend looking for yourself, but if not i can tell you

[west jackal]

all the locations are on the same map, that doesnt mean anything bc i have factories across the whole map

[abstract flint]

idk the place im ner

[west jackal]

i know where you are though

[abstract flint]

neww

[west jackal]

you can open your map m8

[abstract flint]

i just died waitr

[west jackal]

i can give you entrance coords, but just explore north of the nodes

or west, there should be two different entrances

[abstract flint]

ok im at the plasce

[west jackal]

might need nobelisks

[abstract flint]

im at -1994 -1388

what the entrance coords

[west jackal]

-2486 -1557

fair warning, caves can be dangerous

[bleak valley]

I know exactly what cave your above lol

[west jackal]

does anyone know why my jetpack fuel isnt smooth? its like its lagging, but ive never had this issue before

[bleak valley]

I did the same thing my first time over there

[abstract flint]

what the entrance coord do u know ^

[west jackal]

i did too, havent actually been inside, but ive tried to get those quartz before

dude i sent it tf

[bleak valley]

There are four entrances one straight west two north and one towards the east

The one to the west is next to four coal nodes but has rocks blocking it

[west jackal]

-2486 -1557

you should have nobs by now

[abstract flint]

thats anoothers cave right

[bleak valley]

It’s one giant cave

Covers that top part of the rocky desert

[west jackal]

yeah 4 entrances

[bleak valley]

The closest one to the quartz is the east one afaik

It’s next to the big river with some coal next to it

[abstract flint]

ok

[bleak valley]

The entrance is tucked in a crevice in the cliff on the closest side of the river

[abstract flint]

there are big rocks in front of it

[west jackal]

blow them up wit nobelisk

[abstract flint]

how do i get that

[west jackal]

sulfur

[abstract flint]

whatr is it

[west jackal]

nobelisk

[abstract flint]

i dont got steel yet

[west jackal]

what do you need quartz for then

[abstract flint]

blader runners

[west jackal]

well, you can get enough from crash sites, but i think the nodes east (across the river) from you are accessible without nobbies

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
here begins the megafactory

[west jackal]

ohh it begins :0

[jagged nymph]

i need to finish up steel production (bring in some limestone for eib) and then make some modular frames

[west jackal]

what are you making there

[jagged nymph]

currently 382.5 beams and 380 pipes, but 300 of those beams will go into eibs

do yall think i should process all the nearby copper into wire just to have it on hand or should i just make it as i need 🤔

[west jackal]

i would make wire as needed

the only thing im planning on processing all of ahead of time is aluminum

[jagged nymph]

yeah imma be making 3780 of that

[west jackal]

all bauxite, im using 2400 sulfure and 6k quartz, saving the rest of that for other places. itll be around 13k ingots i think

[jagged nymph]

im using sloppy and pure alminum ingots so i will only be using bauxite and coal

cause i dont need to maximize my output

what ill be making is quite a bit more than ill need anyway

[west jackal]

yeah if i cut out silica completely its 12300, if i use 6k quartz and 10k limestone i can up to 15100 ingots

[jagged nymph]

ada just said "ficsit always did underestimate the power of a single bit flipping at the wrong time" when i picked up a hard drive 😭

[west jackal]

ADA 🥹

[hybrid nymph]

ADA is evil!

[west jackal]

no

ADA is sexy

[bleak valley]

Those things aren’t mutually exclusive

[jagged nymph]

uh

[bleak valley]

And are often shared traits

[jagged nymph]

that is true

[west jackal]

actually ... yea

maybe a lil

[hybrid nymph]

ADA is the corporate AI voice of Ficsit, she often provides contradictory, condescending, or outright deceptive information, with her "motivational" messages designed purely to maximize productivity.

[signal tusk]

hey guys, i’m new around here, does anybody have any tips for a newish player? (just got coal power)

[hybrid nymph]

where is our Ficsit worker's union?

[bleak valley]

Saying that word has sent the ficsit productivity team after you automatically

Goodbye

[verbal dagger]

If I make turbofuel, that's going to get more energy out of the crude oil I'm making, yes?

[hybrid nymph]

I demand to speak to my my Ficsit worker's union representitive! I want my damn benefits! Where is my Ficsit employee pension?

Did Ficsit kill my union leader?

[west jackal]

Well, yes, turbo fuel (and rocket fuel) add in other resources to increase the energy from the crude

depending what stage you are in, a good way to increase power from crude is diluted fuel

[unreal sand]

Explosives

[weak bloom]

Looking at radio control units has me missing the good ol days when I thought heavy modular frames were bad

[west jackal]

lol rcu is easy 😉

[jagged nymph]

eh they arent that bad if you already have the infrastructure set up for it which you should

[west jackal]

uh

im setting up rcu with no infrastructure 😛

this is my first "mega" factory, im going to process the worlds bauxite in one location

[serene jolt]

Guys how do I automate limestone. Do I have to do something different that iron or copper?

[weak bloom]

In what sense? I have some of the components automated but they're scattered everywhere

[warm finch]

press n in the game, search limestone, look at the recipe and it'll tell you

[west jackal]

huh? its just miner -> constructer

[weak bloom]

And I'm not really producing too many of them, so I'm trying to find a good place to set up some oscillator and connector factories

[serene jolt]

When I try to break the excess on top it doesn’t break so I can’t place the miner on top. Same thing with coal

[warm finch]

just means there's more of it that you gotta keep mining by hand until it breaks

[serene jolt]

Oh

[warm finch]

the bit on top of the mine is randomly determined amount

[west jackal]

i produce everything on sight

[serene jolt]

Ok. How much is it usually because I spent probably a good 2 minutes and nothing changed

[west jackal]

ie bring in all raw materials

[jagged nymph]

that sounds painful

[warm finch]

it's random. but you have to make sure you're hitting the bit on top, not the mine itself

[west jackal]

you sure you arent accidently mining the node?

[jagged nymph]

like pure independent factories is PAINFUL

[west jackal]

its what ive always done.

[serene jolt]

I don’t think so. How would I know?

[jagged nymph]

how far have you gotten

[west jackal]

well ive beat the game pre 1.0

[warm finch]

look at teh bit itself and make sure you are hitting that

[serene jolt]

Reddit told me explosions

[west jackal]

wat

[jagged nymph]

how many hours did that take.............

[warm finch]

liar. you can't beat the game pre 1.0 lol

[west jackal]

i mean... like 150 or 200?

[jagged nymph]

you can beat phase 4 tho

[west jackal]

shhh

[jagged nymph]

thats surprising

[warm finch]

I know, I played it.

[jagged nymph]

im saying thats what he meant by beating it i assume

[warm finch]

and it's still wrong. he's trolling lol

[jagged nymph]

how would you know

[west jackal]

i mean... no? whats the difference between producing iron rods in one factory already doing iron and then transporting rods, then bringing in iron ore?

[warm finch]

it's freakin Dylan lol

[jagged nymph]

whos that

i dont remember people

[west jackal]

okay i troll a lot, but yes this time i meant beating phase 4

i blame my gf, shes made me this way lol

[warm finch]

that's the accurate way to say it lol. and that's also cap, blaming your gf for what you really are

I only say that cuz it takes one to know one lol

[west jackal]

i troll but i still help.. most of the time

[warm finch]

same here lol

waiting for that request for help 😜

[cunning glade]

after almost 700 hours im at phase 4 for the first time

tho i never went past like phase 2 or 3 in ea and put 200 hours in then

[west jackal]

yea.. i decided to not make a starter aluminum plant and just jump straight to entire world bauxite...

[warm finch]

cool, invite me in and I'll help get to building. Are you using the plans Cobalt drew up? works pretty well

[west jackal]

gonna be a massive headache getting all the resources i need

[cunning glade]

i did cuz i need 780 belts but now im doing 16400 aluminum too

[west jackal]

164,000 alum???

[west jackal]

did he draw plans?

[warm finch]

yeah hang on

[cunning glade]

im almost done i got the last little but left in the desert for limestone then i need another 5k

tho its not all of the bauxite yet cuz no stupid dumb 1200 belts

[west jackal]

im only targeting 15000 ingots

[cunning glade]

ah i went max

[west jackal]

i think thats what im going to do, i want to save sulfur/quartz for other things

[warm finch]

Pinged you the diagram, Dylan.

[cunning glade]

sulfur?

oh is?

idk which recipe i prefer i do hate it needing oil

[rain coral]

may i also be pinged the diagram

[cunning glade]

but only 1250 for all of the aluminum on the map

[warm finch]

look in #math-and-meta

[rain coral]

yeah i see it lol it was one i saw already thats my bad

[narrow wraith]

Super stoked about the Linux tinkering that was discussed in today's live stream. I switched a year ago and it's been really rewarding

[cunning glade]

i need too lock in and get limestone but im so tired

[west jackal]

hmm maybe no sulfur

[warm finch]

go get sleep, that's more important. Satisfactory will be there tomorrow

[cunning glade]

true but i work from 10-8

[west jackal]

i think ill only target 14k alu ingots, that should only require around 4k quartz and 6k ish limestone

[warm finch]

even better reason to go to sleep. need to make sure you're on top of things for work as that's how you rake in the dough

[west jackal]

unfortunately i dont have mk6 belts or mk3 miners, so ill have to upgrade a little later

[cunning glade]

doing 9k quartz and 15k limestone

[warm finch]

just do a quick little starter one to get initial alum sheets needed for mk5 belts, then go ham

[west jackal]

i wanted enough quartz for osc/other things

[cunning glade]

first things i get along with blenders

[warm finch]

I'll help ya

[west jackal]

even with mk5 i cant hit 1200 though

[west jackal]

me? sure, does epic work with steam

and do NOT question my saves name.

[cunning glade]

it does

[warm finch]

true. but doing the 600/min allows you to easily scale up when you get mk6 belts

[cunning glade]

joning is wack but it works

[warm finch]

can confirm it works

[west jackal]

also deaf what tz are you?

[warm finch]

UTZ-8, US PST

[cunning glade]

yk with draining most of the resources from the desert idk what imma put there

no coal limestone or copper

just a shit ton of iron

[warm finch]

Dune desert?

[west jackal]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=XNNnxKAmeZz2nCxyW2fk

[cunning glade]

indeed

[warm finch]

there's coal limestone and copper in dune desert

[west jackal]

i think this is the production im going to do, i have a location in mind that has 1200 crude and a coal node

ill just have t bring in the quartz/limestone/baux

[cunning glade]

there wont be once im done with it lol

only iron and water ig

im thinking nuclear plant could go there

[warm finch]

looks good. check your dms

[cunning glade]

id go for the extra cuz ur using the same amount of ore more coupons

14000 vs 16400 both use 12300 bauxite so

but thats me and im a point fiend

[jagged nymph]

thats enough satisfactory for today

i made alot of progress

[warm finch]

the factory must grow

[keen lagoon]

so basically i lost a power grid and it was because i was getting limestone instead of coal

havent opened the game since febuary 2024 if that helps

[verbal dagger]

if you put a valve right before a fluid buffer, will that prevent it from sloshing out that way?

[west jackal]

do yall know how to move save game into steam

[cursive crane]

Theoretically yes technically no
Just make sure you have more production going into the line than coming out of it and you should be fine

Ei, make sure you have constant flow rate and proper head lift

[verbal dagger]

also, if you make turbofuel, that gets more energy out of the crude oil than just regular fuel, right?

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch fuels

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuels

[cursive crane]

Tells you more on the turbofuel page
But tldr, turbofuel is more resource expensive but puts out more power overall. Basically you get more use out of your oil than when using regular fuel, and technically make more power out of it, but the cost is other resources and such

And obviously theres a machine power cost, but you do still make more power, its just not as power efficient

That changes completely when you go to... rocket fuel? Or one of the higher ones, you actually lose power when making it and consuming it in generators

Dark ion fuel alternate recipe*

[verbal dagger]

ahh, not sure of that just yet

[warm finch]

ionized fuel is where you hit the power effiency. nitro rocket fuel is bae

[verbal dagger]

there's different ratios that need to be considered. In the real world ( I worked as an electrician so I know this ), efficiency is defined as Power (out) / Power (in) = efficiency

right now I'm just trying to make something more efficient than the production I have. I don't have access to all the fuels yet.

so, if you take all the power required to make the turbo fuel, lets say hypothetically that you get way more energy out of the turbo fuel to make up for the added energy cost of production, then the turbo fuel is more efficient.

one turbofuel has 2.667 times the amount of joules as a fuel.

like, you would have to have what, 2.667 times more energy production for the turbo fuel to be not more efficient

[hybrid nymph]

I get it with your profile picturee, you're "space raptor" and it's a chicken, because velicoraptors had feathers

am I right?

[obtuse spear]

Is there any way to Report a dupe?

[real shale]

REMEMBER!!!! WHO....YOU ARE...

[hybrid nymph]

what? lol

[real shale]

Old meme of dinosaurs being compared to modern day equivalents, with the trex being the chicken

[zenith spire]

Why report a dupe

[real shale]

Also, originally a scene from lion king

[glad leaf]

how do i get rid of this spaghetti, and my tains dont work

[obtuse spear]

Bc I thought the Game developers don’t want to have dupes in their game

[warm finch]

the devs intentionally gave us duplication in the game

[zenith spire]

A new dupe will replace it almost immediately & yes what deaf bringer said

[obtuse spear]

But with power shards?

[warm finch]

with literally everything in the game

[zenith spire]

It’s a sandbox game for a reason

[real shale]

Somersloops confirmed not a feature in the game, a bug even

[warm finch]

you get 1 shard for blue slug, 2 from yellow slug, and 5 from purple slug. with the duplication technology, it duplicates (doubles) that

[real shale]

An....alien bug....

[obtuse spear]

Nahh, it’s a other way

I can get Infinitiv in early Game

[real shale]

Power shard duplication doesn't matter much either way, synthetic power shards are a thing already

[zenith spire]

Great, abuse the crap outta it

[obtuse spear]

I don’t want to

[real shale]

Or don't, we don't judge

[zenith spire]

Point is, it’s a sandbox game. U can do whatever u wanna do

[glad leaf]

i dont have diamonds tho

[obtuse spear]

Ok, I didn’t know the devs want dupes in their game

[real shale]

I mean, you can essentially god hand the game with a creative mode so

[glad leaf]

huh?

[zenith spire]

Yeah statisfactory is just cool like that. They’ve also left in other bugs in the game because the community wanted them. Such as, infinite conveyor lift & a compact conveyor lift

[real shale]

Advanced Game Settings

[glad leaf]

where

can i do it if i make a new game

[zenith spire]

Upon starting up the world

[glad leaf]

ohhh

[zenith spire]

& in the settings of the world

[zenith spire]

Yes. You can also do it on any existing one

[glad leaf]

kool

[real shale]

It's funny because not many people know about the AGS setting that disables the spiders entirely

[zenith spire]

Hypertube cannons were also a bug but the devs decided to leave it in because it was fun

[zenith spire]

Haha right

[obtuse spear]

Js copy Miners with shards in it and place it down. I don’t need shards, but there are inside

[glad leaf]

yoo how did i not know about this

[zenith spire]

& the setting to turn off mobs hostility

[real shale]

Oh, no that doesn't dupe them, that uses the shards in your inventory

[glad leaf]

what

[obtuse spear]

No

[glad leaf]

im stupid

[obtuse spear]

It’s Not on the Build list

[real shale]

You'll notice that the shards in your inventory deplete if you copy machines with shards in them

[real shale]

Build list?

[obtuse spear]

I mean the Materials that I need for a miner

[real shale]

It won't show there, but it still depletes the shards

[zenith spire]

Wym materials for a miner? All you need is a white van that says “free candy” & you’ll get all the minors bro

Jk lol

[warm finch]

really?

[bleak valley]

If you need more power shards just sloop a constructor making them

It doubles all shards crafted

[obtuse spear]

Js dupe them

[bleak valley]

You can’t

Your just dumb

[obtuse spear]

I can

[cunning glade]

no

[jagged nymph]

thats not intended though. Part of the game is planning. Theres a reason theres a limited number of slugs, but also theres over 5000 power shards worth of slugs, that should be plenty

[real shale]

I guarantee to you, the shards are coming out of your inventory if you check right now by copying a miner and putting it down, you'll be down 1-3 shards in your inventory

[cunning glade]

valve bad buffer bad just pipe max

[jagged nymph]

yea

[jagged nymph]

no, buffer is needed on fluid train

[zenith spire]

“Valve bad buffer bad” 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[obtuse spear]

No it won’t get less in my Inv if I Place one

[real shale]

Then test it

[jagged nymph]

yes it will

[obtuse spear]

I tried it

[jagged nymph]

welp then you read the number wrong

do you have build costs turned on in advanced game settings

but it absolutely does use up the shards in your iventory if you copy down a miner with shards in it

[obtuse spear]

I’m Not stupid I had 91 before and after 145

[jagged nymph]

well clearly you are either stupid, lying, or have build costs turned off, or have a mod on which changed the behaviour

[obtuse spear]

The Forth one

[zenith spire]

Hahaha

[warm finch]

let's work on being a little nicer

[jagged nymph]

im not saying hes stupid, im saying thats a possibility. There are other reasons as to why he could not be seeing the shards leave his inventory

[obtuse spear]

But u missed one

[real shale]

Only legitimate dupe glitch I know of right now is the tractor and blueprint designer one, although I'm not even sure if that one has been patched already

[jagged nymph]

that ones not patched

[zenith spire]

I’m thinking factorio might be more up your alley than satisfactory

[jagged nymph]

oh yeah true a bit in your ram couldve suddenly flipped unexpectedly

[real shale]

RAM??? WHERE?

[zenith spire]

There’s another one but I’m gonna gatekeep because it’s not on YouTube

[obtuse spear]

Mine too

[real shale]

The dimensional depot one?

[zenith spire]

No

[real shale]

I know there used to be the factory cart one but that one is definitely fixed now

Either way, dupe or no dupe who cares, the goal is to save the day

[zenith spire]

I use satisfactory for my job

[keen lagoon]

hi anyone answer thanks

[zenith spire]

Then get coal instead of limestone. Problem solved

[real shale]

Gubernatorial

[keen lagoon]

gng it was coal in 2024 idk what happened to it

like i have an entire setup off that one node

[zenith spire]

Nathan maybe a Roblox tycoon is gonna be a little easier & more fun than a complex game like statisfactory at your age

[keen lagoon]

are you on your period?

i dont care if i have to fix it im js saying im 99% sure the game glitched so is there a way to fix the glitch instead of consuming extra hours of my time

[zenith spire]

I am, 1 month in

[warm finch]

knock off the sexism. not necessary here

[zenith spire]

Gushing blood straight out my ass rn

[keen lagoon]

that isnt sexism

oh lordy

[warm finch]

lmao yeah it is.

[zenith spire]

Fr. Sexism is not cool

[zenith spire]

Mercer sphere

[real shale]

Compose this conversation and turn it into a blood song.

Consume

[keen lagoon]

ill js ask the question tmmr man

[warm finch]

or figure it out? not sure what you want us to help you with?

[keen lagoon]

has everyone in this chat had someone shit in their cereal this morning???

if ur gonna be rude for 0 reason js don’t answer i asked a normal question 😭😭

[warm finch]

Not sure what the attitude is about. I'm saying you need to be more specific. saying you don't have coal when you need coal is a simple solution, go get coal. Unless I'm missing something

[zenith spire]

It is a great feeling to connect to the speaker before all your coworkers

[real shale]

Defile the scripture

[keen lagoon]

i had an entire setup on a coal node(?) and opened up the game for the first time in an extremely long time, after 15 min like 4 of my fuses shutdown and i traced it back to the fact that my coal node was replaced with limestone somehow and it was tryna fuel stuff w limestone on conveyers

idk how to describe more than that ngl

[zenith spire]

Nathan if that one coal mine put away your whole power plant, u need a better power plant in the first place

[warm finch]

Ok so what is your question? You need coal instead of limestone, use your scanner to find the closest coal node and connect it to your coal plants. then set up biofuel burners to kickstart your coal plants

[keen lagoon]

my question is did my game glitch and can i somehow fix it instead of js wasting additional hours on replacing it

[jagged nymph]

just built a super compact 16 constructor blueprint

[keen lagoon]

r did the maps update or something

[warm finch]

check out #patch-notes if the coal node is now a limestone node then yes the map changed

[pale cedar]

What is the difference between impure and normal limestone?

[glad leaf]

is it possible to just spawn items and materials

[warm finch]

the output is the least for impure. normal has more, and pure has most

[jagged nymph]

advanced game settings

[glad leaf]

the impure one will give you less limestone when a miner is placed on it, if it is pure you will get lots

[glad leaf]

where

[jagged nymph]

on your computer

[pale cedar]

oh ok thx

[glad leaf]

how do i give myself things

[jagged nymph]

ags

[glad leaf]

oh nvm

[jagged nymph]

aka creative mode

[real shale]

Pioneer

[jagged nymph]

A350 Enjoyer [Emerald]

[zenith spire]

Severance_Prime ☦️

[cunning glade]

only spot its okay

but buffering trains is kinda a no brainer

[zenith spire]

Did I hear fluid train?

Even the devs said the fluid train is horrible 😂

[cunning glade]

i use mk2 trains so 4800 in both car and station

[zenith spire]

I use underground pipelines

I personally refuse to use any trains on personal projects but I’ll use them when I use satisfactory for work

[bleak valley]

Why did I decide to do 30 modular frames a minute

This is annoying with my current materials

[warm finch]

because you'll need to do more later lol

[bleak valley]

I’ll stack a second floor on this later with mk2 miners ig

It’s only 571 iron ore a minute

[glad leaf]

mk2 trains?

thats a thing?

[normal orbit]

no

[glad leaf]

oh

[normal orbit]

its modded

[glad leaf]

HUH

where can i find mods

[jagged nymph]

google exists

letmegooglethat.com/?q=satisfactory+mod+manager

[glad leaf]

my dad is strict

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @warm finch

[warm finch]

there you go

[jagged nymph]

? what does that have to do with anything

[glad leaf]

im not allowed google

[jagged nymph]

but youre allowed on discord...

[jagged nymph]

are you like 9?

[glad leaf]

dont tell him that

[glad leaf]

im 13

[jagged nymph]

wild

[glad leaf]

its sad really

[jagged nymph]

then why dont you just use google and not tell him if youre using discord and not telling him anyway

[bleak valley]

Quick somebody find this kids dad

[glad leaf]

its 2 am and i need water

[glad leaf]

because he blocked it from
me

like if i try to use it it says app blocked

[bleak valley]

Use one of the million other search engines

[jagged nymph]

install a different browser then

[glad leaf]

oh yea

[jagged nymph]

or use another search engine

[glad leaf]

im stoopid

how do i get water without waking peoples up

[jagged nymph]

quietly

[gentle lava]

im going to make my first coal powerplant soon how should i do it?

[glad leaf]

but that fridge makes the loudest noises possible when dispensing wager

[glad leaf]

HUH

[gentle lava]

what

[jagged nymph]

place coal gens, connect coal, conenct water

[gentle lava]

ye any like efficient ways or just go for it

[jagged nymph]

each coal gen needs 15 coal/m and 45 water/m

[gentle lava]

so one normal coal node (normal) can supply 4 gens?

and idk about water havent used it yet

[jagged nymph]

with a mk1 miner clocked at 100 yes

[gentle lava]

how much does a water extracter produce?

[jagged nymph]

120

[glad leaf]

how do you just know this stuff

[gentle lava]

thats inconvient lol

[jagged nymph]

im pretty sure theres a wiki page for it

[gentle lava]

ill just powershard it

[jagged nymph]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[jagged nymph]

not really, 3 extractors powers 8 gens perfectly

[jagged nymph]

follow one of these layouts, i like the top one

[gentle lava]

oh i was thinking of the 4 gens

that is also really niche

[jagged nymph]

most people build it in modules of 8

[real shale]

Speaking of mods I love not being able to see any of the images on any of the mod pages anymore

[gentle lava]

wdym modules'?

[jagged nymph]

like sections

[warm finch]

The game isn't doing it to be inconvinent. The game is trying to teach you valuable lessons to use for later. tiers 0-7 are pretty much tutorials with tier 8-9 being where you combine everything together

[real shale]

Because they are all Imgur images

[glad leaf]

ive been using one coal powered generator this whole time

[jagged nymph]

... how?

[glad leaf]

im built different and just lazy

if i has done that irl that thing would have exploded

[jagged nymph]

i have 48 and im only half way through my stuff i need for this phase and im already using 90 percent of it

[gentle lava]

no i was saying it was inconvient that 1 extracter couldnt power 4 but i wasnt thinking about the factor of 8

[jagged nymph]

? no

[glad leaf]

i dont think i wanna do this anymore

[gentle lava]

Oh k

[glad leaf]

with the amount of buildings attached to it

[jagged nymph]

why? thats literally only 2 miners on pure nodes and 3 extractors

[jagged nymph]

thats... thats not how that works at all

[real shale]

It takes a special kind of person to enjoy factory games

[glad leaf]

oh

[glad leaf]

oh

[bleak valley]

I’m almost done hooking up the smelters for the modular frames

[jagged nymph]

yeah, special alright

[glad leaf]

still

[glad leaf]

im special

[real shale]

Irl? That sounds about right, considering they probably don't have any switches yet

[glad leaf]

switches?

wdym

[bleak valley]

If I run out of reinforced iron plates one more time I might crash out

[glad leaf]

who here has the "what a thrill" achievement

[glad leaf]

you run out of those?

[bleak valley]

It was a very easy one yeah

[bleak valley]

I don’t have extra it’s all going to smart plates

[glad leaf]

it cost a lot of iron rods

[glad leaf]

smart plates

[bleak valley]

It cost me no rods

[jagged nymph]

no it wouldnt explode. He presumably is making enough power first of all for the buildings attached to it, so its fine, but even if you had alot of thing connected to a power source such that it cant handle it, the things just simply wouldnt get enough power, they wouldnt explode. And if you run too much power through one wire, it just melts, No explosions would happen

[bleak valley]

Cannon

[glad leaf]

what teir are tou on

[bleak valley]

I just started a second save I’m on tier 3

[glad leaf]

to get to the world height limit?

[glad leaf]

oh

i like trains

[real shale]

If you run too much power through one wire, explosions do happen because of the potential drop when the wire hits the ground

That is why you do NOT want to short a transmission line

[zenith spire]

You can use a hypertube cannon to do the same thing for less expensive materials

[jagged nymph]

who said anything about shorting it

[zenith spire]

Well really not really less expensive but more so just a funner way to do it

[real shale]

If it melts, it hits the ground

That shorts it

[glad leaf]

so if the power grid shuts down when to many things are attached to it, if i plug a bunch of huge fans into my walls will the house power shut off

[real shale]

No

[glad leaf]

awww

[real shale]

You'd need an extreme surge to trip the mains

[glad leaf]

how would i do that

[real shale]

You'd be quicker to trip a local fuse than the mains fuse

[glad leaf]

with huge fans

[jagged nymph]

i mean yeah but thats not what he was talking about anyway, he was saying if he was tryna power alot of stuff with one coal gen it would explode which is actually the opposite of what would cause the wire to melt

[real shale]

Well provided they graded the protection properly

[gentle lava]

A350, your talking about the layout in the thumbnail in that link right

[real shale]

If someone was stupid when wiring the household then the main might trip first lmao

[jagged nymph]

yea

[gentle lava]

from the satisfactory boy?

yeah kk

[real shale]

Mains fuses are about 100As typically

[glad leaf]

im u but nhmber 2 and dumber

[real shale]

You would need some pretty heavy loads to do that

[glad leaf]

tesla chargers

with teslas

and cyber wagons

[real shale]

Tesla coils arent high current

[glad leaf]

aww

[real shale]

They are high voltage instead

[glad leaf]

well im tryna shut down the power to my area

what time is it for you

[real shale]

As an electrical engineer I recommend you do not do that because it's a headache for standby engineers lmao

[glad leaf]

well they need the practice

[jagged nymph]

i imagine you get in alot of trouble for that too

[glad leaf]

because when a storm happens and the power goes out we dont have power for hours

[glad leaf]

for what plugging in a bunch of stuff

[jagged nymph]

and it would be difficult as youd likely just damage your own house first

[glad leaf]

ill use my neighbours house

[jagged nymph]

shutting down power to your entire area

[glad leaf]

oh

what if i just shut down my own house

gotta unplug it

[jagged nymph]

then youre just inconveniencing yourself and putting yourself in danger

[glad leaf]

night light house

[glad leaf]

i have an idea

[real shale]

With the engineers? No, they just refer it to the police

[gentle lava]

when you bind to hotbar what does it mean hover 0-9

[jagged nymph]

ik thats what i mean

[glad leaf]

you hover over the item and hit any number keys

[gentle lava]

ahhh tyty

[real shale]

Although 9/10 a recloser will make any sort of temporary surge like that....temporary

[jagged nymph]

if you intentially shut down power to a large area youd likely get in legal trouble

[glad leaf]

and then when you hit that number key it will make you build that item

[glad leaf]

yeah thats why im not doing it

[jagged nymph]

so if you wouldnt get in trouble you would attempt it??

[glad leaf]

no,
im not trying to shut down the power

i just wanna sleep in peace

[real shale]

Leave it to the people who somewhat know what they are doing to mess with live electricity

[glad leaf]

thets why im playing satisfactory rn

[glad leaf]

like my uncle

speaking of my uncle, i think he might be in this server

eh whatever

ima roll a dice 2th times and whatever number i get total is how long ima stay up in hours

i got 9

[warm finch]

so much for parents being strict

[glad leaf]

my dad dont know 👀