satisfactory

[west jackal]

i need to bring pet coke and rubber to aluminum plant

[near mural]

makes sense

[white dawn]

Just one way to do it, of course, but yeah, even though I often recommend against centralization, there's some stuff (like aluminum) which IMO often makes sense to centralize to a degree. :)

[west jackal]

i need to take pet coke to the aluminum, maybe then bring aluminum to the oil forthe rest of the RCS factory?

[white dawn]

(Though like USBeefalo I tend to just process one Bauxite node at a time, so I end up with a number of aluminum factories spread out over the map)

[simple pebble]

Yeah every time I think I'm gonna distribute aluminium I end up bringing everything there instead, lol

[ornate saffron]

While building on vertical angles I stop a little before the top of the incline then start a new rail the prevents the hump.

[ornate saffron]

My first playthrough i did my phase four and five factory in the bamboo forest due to this

[white dawn]

Or use something other than coke for the aluminum. :D One nice thing about spreading out aluminum processing somewhat is you get to play with other resource chains. Electrode is indeed nice, but I'll only use that if there happens to be oil relatively near the bauxite

[brazen marsh]

isn’t this game “steam deck configured” lol I’m not trying to hate but it fr doesn’t work I can’t even press a to confirm because my (mouse thing version of steam deck) is selected on the three things I can click on the enter ip screen

[west jackal]

i mean i need oil for the rest of the radio control system factory

[simple pebble]

For me it's that waterfall between titan forest and the swamp

[white dawn]

I think out of my six-ish aluminum sites on my last save, I'd used like four different aluminum-processing chains

[warm finch]

What's y'all's go to for dealing with waste water from aluminum production? seems my beloved VIP junction set ups are no longer reliable in 1.1 (cries)

[unkempt blade]

wet concrete or the pure [resource type] recipes

[white dawn]

VIPs should still work, but I always recommend just keeping fresh+recycled totally separate. May need to "split" up some buildings and underclock (or overclock) so that the numbers match up

[ornate saffron]

Ive had no issues.

But I planned out my aluminum factory before I started this playthrough. Ill be turning the water byproduct product into wet concrete amd copper ingots

[simple pebble]

I can usually get a VIP going, but wet concrete is nice

[west jackal]

i forgot i CAN just bring the bauxite, i dont have to move aluminum

[ornate saffron]

Yup

[near mural]

bro was so excited to make the factory it predated the save 😭

[white dawn]

For some example layouts, first a real small vanilla-recipe setup, and then an electrode/sloppy setup: #math-and-meta message

[simple pebble]

Electrode + Sloppy my beloved

[white dawn]

It can help to pre-flood the "recycled" pipes with water before turning things on, just so the system starts up at mostly full strength (generally a good idea to always prefill pipes)

[ornate saffron]

After so many playthrough you can kinda just headmath things before you start.

Often during my daily 30minute commute to work

[brazen marsh]

genuinely where do o get help with this problem I have

[warm finch]

yes, should. I've had no problems with it in 1400+ hours until now. and it just simply doesn't work anymore.

[brazen marsh]

I have not seen a single source anywhere

[sterile blade]

#1038092680493801533

[simple pebble]

I remember my friend having trouble with a VIP and then I learned they used valves. Deleted the valves, worked perfectly

[ornate saffron]

I responded.

#1038092680493801533

[warm finch]

looks like I will have to begrudedly bring in limestone, ugh. My beloved VIPs....

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message uh

[ornate saffron]

Any pure recipe really. Or bring in coal and make power.

[ornate saffron]

Boobs

[warm finch]

hmmm, would increasing the height of the VIP possibly fix the issue @white dawn ?

[white dawn]

Weird. I haven't actually used 'em in ages so I'm afraid I have no useful advice on that front

But regardless, IMO keeping the fresh+recycled totally separate is a better solution anyway. Essentially zero chance for things to go wrong so long as the machines are clocked properly

[white dawn]

Honestly not sure; as I say, I haven't used VIPs in a real long time

[ornate saffron]

@green fiber

[west jackal]

beefy do you put foundations under the whole train tracks? or do you have tracks float beteen posts

[warm finch]

yeah as mentioned, never had an issue in 1400+ hours until now and it breaks my heart lol

[ornate saffron]

Both and niether

[ornate saffron]

Not helpful I know i do, use both those options amd othera

[unkempt blade]

all three!

[white dawn]

Could try posting in #1038092680493801533 with images and such of the VIP; could be that fellow VIP-users could point you at something

Sorry I can't be of more help than that personally, in re: the VIP itself

[brazen marsh]

wdym where

[white dawn]

Though suddenly-breaking-after-1400+-hours problems seem like they may be rather inscrutable

Hopefully it's not just a performance issue; I know on my own potato PC I started having 1200/min delivery issues on belts once my save got too big

But for that I feel comfortable enough blaming the potato

[sterile blade]

#satisfactory message

[brazen marsh]

oh

[green fiber]

unlikely, VIP works due to a bug that makes the top input of a junction always be 2m higher than the bottom one (head lift / pressure wise)

[cunning glade]

How do y'all manage inputs when loading trains cuz like I have ideas but non of them really look good and I'm unsure if they can fully input everything into the train stations tbh

[green fiber]

and, again, it is a bug.
So thats another reason i dont and never will quite trust it

[normal orbit]

would not surprise me if 1.2 will fix that bug

[cunning glade]

Cuz like when I have like 10 belts idk kinda becomes wacky

Ig make my trains longer but

[ornate saffron]

I use a logistics floor above or below.

[white dawn]

The main thing is using an ISC buffer (with both outputs connected to the station) to provide a buffer for the 27sec loading/unloading time. If you do that, you'll be able to approach 2x-max-belth-throughput via the station (assuming that the route itself supports that throughput given the round-trip time)

[near mural]

is there any convienent way to fuel trucks when not moving fuel? i dont wanna manually refuel but a truck would be very convienient rn

[white dawn]

Oh right, "look good" -- yeah, I generally send 'em above or below as well. :D

[cunning glade]

I normally do 2 sets of buffers

[white dawn]

Easy enough to make things look decent when you don't have the actual station in the way

[cunning glade]

But I see

[white dawn]

You can set up mid-route fuelling stations if it's convenient. Set the station to "load" but with nothing going into the cargo, and any vehicle stopping there will refuel (set the yellow pause node to like 1sec so vehicles don't wait there)

[near mural]

this could work

[white dawn]

But in the end, you've gotta get fuel delivered somewhere along the vehicle's route. When I've got central hubs going on I'll generally have a dedicated fuel-fetcher vehicle which provides fuel for everything else there

[cunning glade]

Is it worth load balancing output from the trains I kinda wanna as a precaution

[proven snow]

I’d have one truck driving around giving fuel to all stations that need it for their own trucks

[bleak valley]

But then you need a truck fueling that truck

[near mural]

i do also need to bring coal here which is abt as far away so i could actually jst have one bring coal and one refuel both truck stations

[white dawn]

Do you mean between multiple freight cars? If a single freight car can't support the throughput you need for something, then yeah, I'll often balance between 2+ cars instead

[cunning glade]

It's more so one of my stations is doing like 5k limestone I feel like it wouldn't be a bad idea load balancing cuz I'm doing all of the aluminum

Cuz i have a feeling I'll have too go back and add cars too some

I did 4 for them all so

[near mural]

and theres natural roads leading to where i need all my trucks to go its meant to be

so very nice

[cunning glade]

Hand crafted map is peak

[near mural]

i love the map sm

[cunning glade]

Id love another map for like 30$ kinda like planet crafter does

Maybe change up some end game parts so it's a tad different I wouldn't mind

[near mural]

i feel like ive hardly seen the map im very excited to explore it all and setup a huge train network eventually

[sinful galleon]

how many refinery i need for so much energy

[near mural]

can i change the fuel my jeckpack uses in my inventory

[brazen marsh]

finally found my question but there are no answers to any of the posts - even the recent ones

[sinful galleon]

use the gear on jetpack, inventory

[near mural]

tysm this has ben bothering me for a while

[simple pebble]

It's funny, when I started playing, the community was all trains, never trucks

Now everyone I talk to and every video I see has a fleet of trucks

[warm finch]

Understandable, and makes me sad lol. So deal with waste water the "proper" way then? lol

[simple pebble]

They're really nice off foundations

[green fiber]

deal with it properly. its not hard really

dont mix fresh and wastewater

[warm finch]

I know it's not hard. Just an extra step, and change is hard lol!!! RIP my beloved VIPs.

[brazen marsh]

gonna ask again- does any steam deck player have a solution to the bug that won’t let you press a to confirm when on join game menu?

[dense violet]

it's not even an extra step.
you just don't connect them and clock the machines slightly different'

[warm finch]

it's an "extra step" of belting in yet anotehr resource and doing more math. all good though. As I mentioned, the change is what's hard lol.

[terse lagoon]

is there somehow a mod that like makes it so that there's no conveyor length limit or something i've always wondered that

[dense violet]

what extra resource?

[simple pebble]

Tbh I hate using wastewater on other stuff, the ratios rarely work out

[ornate saffron]

Likely. Best asked to the modding discord found in #welcome

[warm finch]

for this specific case, limestone. will have to do more math to determine if I gotta belt in more stuff

[dense violet]

you can clock machines - ratios are meaningless

[dense violet]

@simple pebble ok pinging you both in #math-and-meta

[warm finch]

why me?

[dense violet]

to show you how you don't need extra resources or a step?

literally just not connecting up 2 pipes and poking a number or two

[warm finch]

that... wasn't the point of my "complaint", it was about changing from VIP

[dense violet]

I mean at that point any 'fix' is an extra step and this is the least extra step.

But more importantly doesn't need limestone

keeping fluid split with this and the future fluid by product steps is probably the least work in the first place and definitely the most reliable

[near mural]

this is my first real time using them i hope they work 😭

[dense violet]

works with gasses later too

[warm finch]

gotcha, missed that part. I'll look

[vale quail]

is there any more teaser vids coming before the 17th

[cunning glade]

How do power augmenters work with sloops or when do I unlock that

Cuz they have an input

[bleak valley]

They do have an input I forgot to ask about that

[cunning glade]

Also wanna figure out how I wanna build things cuz I have a few big builds I'm doing that I would like too design well and not just 2 -3 floors with a ton of machines

And where

[untold zealot]

.... Silly question, but is there ever a reason not to use the fastest Conveyer lifts I can? I'm not exactly resource-limited as much anymore, so 2 steel versus 2 Iron Plates is sort of whatever

[cunning glade]

Not really

I mean I like seeing items on belts

So I like using slower ones if I can

Or I use them if I only need a certain amount a min split from a manifold

[proven snow]

Only really if you’re resource limited

… so no

[untold zealot]

Got it, that's pretty much what I figured =)

[normal orbit]

as long as the belt is faster than what you put into it, it doesnt matter how much faster it is

[dense violet]

and there's a benefit, not accidentally putting a mk1 belt somewhere and spending an hour trying to find it

[sick falcon]

why are assemblers such enemies of god

[normal orbit]

hm?

[sick falcon]

with their unholy width

[simple pebble]

I mean I agree, assemblers suck

[dense violet]

what's wrong with how wide they are?

[jagged nymph]

assembler is my least favorite machine tbh

idk why i just dont like em

[normal orbit]

so they put on a little weight, no need to call em out :o

[sick falcon]

its slightly over 1 and they refuse to line up with foundation grid edges

[jagged nymph]

clip em into eachother

[sick falcon]

and the model isnt even over 1 foundation wide

[cunning glade]

That's refineries with ther unholy height

[sick falcon]

but the hitbox is

[near mural]

the logistics of getting the coal to my aluminum was pissing me off sb im just hand feeding the coal to make enough sheets for a hoverpack 😭

[dense violet]

use concrete - no edges

[dense violet]

... most bauxite is near coal or oil?

[ornate saffron]

dont you use the Oil patch on the west shore?

[cunning glade]

Don't use coal for aluminum tbh

[near mural]

clostest to my node is abt 800m which isnt bad but literally everythting kept constantly going wrong to the point where im gonna deal with it later 😭

[cunning glade]

I did the first time

[near mural]

dont have the alt recipes yet </3

[cunning glade]

Why not?

[near mural]

no im a bit north of blue crater

no drives rn

i will be getting some soon tho i jsut wanted a little bit of aluminum

[cunning glade]

U should always have most of the alts u can unlocked imo

[near mural]

i ended up using abt 10 drives last phase to get a recipe i didnt even end up using

[cunning glade]

Speaking of aluminum where do y'all think I should put it

[cunning glade]

I just get them all Incase I need them

[near mural]

yeah i really needa do another sloop sphere and drive run soon

before i make a real aluminum factory atleast

[cunning glade]

Do it after u unlock new machines

[near mural]

yeah maybe i should wait to use them til after i get blender i think theres a few recipes ill need

[cunning glade]

Most definitely

[near mural]

@ornate saffron i can def route it its not far this game was just ragebaiting me 😭

got attacked sm i turned off hostility and that wasnt even the biggest issue

[dense violet]

Maybe just find a different spot 🙂

location scouting is a critical part of factory planning
a lot of people skip it

[near mural]

im thinking ill jst get the alts so i dont need silica

[dense violet]

you can also find a spot where the coal is literally right next door 🙂

[near mural]

yess i havnt had to worry abt it til now its def important

[dense violet]

or oil

I would guess offhand like ... 75% of the bauxite nodes are very near coal/oil?

[near mural]

is there anything that needs both aluminum and oil products? ive been needing a better oil setup and it might be interesting if i can mix the two

[ornate saffron]

you can make coke from oil

[near mural]

yeah i was thinking i can use the coke from the oil setup for the aluminum but idk if theres any real reason to put the 2 together like that

[dense violet]

oh lots if you use alt recipes - plastic/rubber/fuel is used to pad out a lot of recipes

also a number of base recipes tbh

[near mural]

as much as i keep putting it off my need for drives grows...

[dense violet]

hell, anything that needs steel could be replaced with oil instead of coal

[ornate saffron]

'rubber for HMF for example

[dense violet]

hard drives and alt recipes are like... the core core aspect of the game

[near mural]

yeah i just keep putting it off 😭

[dense violet]

go on a big saffari 😛

also make sure your MAM researched up 😛

[near mural]

i do need to scout for factory locations so it would be ideal to do while i do

[ornate saffron]

get yo self a rifle and spread some democarcy and get that L10
"

[dense violet]

build radar towers as you go

[near mural]

do they require power? i havnt actually researched them yet

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure

by the time they became useful I'd explored the map like 4 times and then discovered the online map

so I just used the online map.
but it is a 100% exploration spoiler and the exploration is very nice and pretty in the game

so if you like exploring at all I'd recommend avoiding it for now

[sick falcon]

refineries are proud and imposing, assemblers are just slightly off, as if theyre mimicing constructors in an attempt to lure you in, trick you

[tidal dock]

Is there a way to just drag a belt and have it just make the entire thing at once including supports? Rather than having to place it down one section at a time.

[normal orbit]

maybe a mod, but not really no

[tidal dock]

bummer, I made this once only it was backwards >.<

[normal orbit]

you can blueprint it to make a lil quicker i spose

[jagged nymph]

holy i just turned on global illumination and it looks sick

[near mural]

what is global illumination

[jagged nymph]

its a graphics setting that uhh... idk how it works but i know it has to do with how it calculates lighting

[near mural]

so it just makes the lighting pretty?

like ray tracing?

[jagged nymph]

yeah it makes the lighting wayyy better

hold on ill post before and after in screenshots

[normal orbit]

then compare it to experimental :D

[bleak valley]

I’m excited for the engine change

[near mural]

whats diffrent on experimental

[bleak valley]

I haven’t looked at experimental yet but I’m sure it’s awesome

Damn that setting forces you to actually use lighting lmao

[normal orbit]

updated version of unreal engine, which has improved global illumination by a lot

[near mural]

dym for when 1.2 comes out or rn

[normal orbit]

right now on experimental

[near mural]

ooo

im curious if my pc can run it well

[warm finch]

I would be ok with this! lol

[normal orbit]

#satisfactory-experimental message the diffrence

[near mural]

your factory is stunning bro

[bleak valley]

Yeah I’d like to learn how to use lights

[untold zealot]

.... I tried out a truck for the first time. It ran into the big ballon wildlife. It's currently bugged out flying in the air together with the wildlife.

Not what I expected, but hey, flight!

[warm finch]

fisict insurance denied

[warm finch]

which alum casing recipe do y'all prefer?

[simple pebble]

alclad casing is nice, you should have the copper anyway

[sinful roost]

You see 30 concrete a minute but I see a factory starting

[near mural]

is there a cmd to show fps

im trying to see what settings my pc can handle

[ornate saffron]

there is one built into Steam and AMD software

[near mural]

i didnt know tbh thats awesome ty twin

[ornate saffron]

anytime

[coral marsh]

Whats yalls thoughts on the single recipe for singularity cells

[warm finch]

it's very singular

[coral marsh]

Im meaning, there only being one and no alts

Its quite expensive

[warm finch]

it's the singular recipe!

worth it if you like teleportation

[coral marsh]

I do think its okay.

Im only curious because the T9 alts mod adds in 2 more recipes for them
Bolted and
Ficsonium
Bolted produced 24 per minute and ficsonium produces 32 per minute

Well thats because your thinking of telepoortation and not teleportarion /s

[warm finch]

yet

[untold zealot]

Speaking off... What are some good things to put into the Dimensional storage? I just unlocked it, but it's still "rare" enough I can't put it on every single ware really

[coral marsh]

Anything you want

But make it the essentials first

[warm finch]

most used consumables that you think are essential to YOU

nobleisks, ammo, inhalers, filters, jetpack fuel, concrete, etc.

[coral marsh]

100% always put conveyor belt materials into it

[warm finch]

and you can pin your favorites to the top

[ornate saffron]

ya id choose my prefered build materials. I use lots of concrete so thats my go to

[coral marsh]

Anything beyond the main required materials/resources is purely just for fun, examples being, dark matter crystals, pressure conversion cubes, nuclear pasta etc

Unnecessary but fun

[untold zealot]

I think I'll start with steel and concrete then

[coral marsh]

Stuff like concrete, iron plates, steel beams, all conveyor belt materials, copper sheets, plastic, rubber, high speed connectors (if you use mk3 power poles mainly once unlocked/researched).

[unkempt blade]

yeah! and screws!

[deft drum]

eventually you want everything used in buildings in the DD yeah

[white dawn]

I mean, neither is practically anything we do in the game. :)

[coral marsh]

Eventually you'll want to depot turbo motors, super computers, practically all aluminium scrap products, the sheets, ingots, casings etc

[ornate saffron]

screws are the one thing i would not recomme3nd early lol

you only need them to build the awesome shop, equipment bench and the mam

[deft drum]

yeah our inventory is explicitly a pocket dimension

[untold zealot]

Haha, I barely know what those are so that's for the future!

[coral marsh]

Vertical particle accelerators for example, not feasible at all

[warm finch]

yet

[unkempt blade]

slander! this game is entirely accurate and based in scientific fact

[coral marsh]

Try and automate SAM Fluctuators as soon as you can, you will need them for tier 9 for the converter and quantum encoder

[jagged nymph]

ficsit doesnt care about the known laws of physics and thermodynamics

[coral marsh]

Oh im aware lol

[coral marsh]

I do wish we had the blender machine irl

[untold zealot]

... I'm at... uh... "Complete Phase 2"

Soooo Tier 9 is faar faaaaaar away

[unkempt blade]

we do, it's how they make yogurt at scale

[coral marsh]

Itll start around t5 when you unlock the manufacturer

[warm finch]

enjoy it. the game REALLY starts at tier 7/8. Have fun!

[coral marsh]

Oh yea, lol, My b (im tired and sick and cant sleep)

[unkempt blade]

hey just eat some yogurt and take a nap, you'll feel much better

[coral marsh]

I dont have any sadly

Ive had 2 500mg panadol tablets and a cough lozenge

[white dawn]

To be fair, most of what we do does use real-life scientific ideas as a jumping-off point, or at least sci -fi tropes which we're all fairly conditioned to accept without much comment. :D

[coral marsh]

It just sucks because I wanted to hang out with a friend today and maybe soend an hour with my Bf

[warm finch]

Mars 2026!!!!

[ornate saffron]

we will be lucky for the moon station before 2030 lol

[warm finch]

remember, the rule is to accept without much comment

[unkempt blade]

2 of the 3 of those are documentaries though

[coral marsh]

Funny enough im currently watching a movie called "mission to mars"

[ornate saffron]

i enjoyed that one

[coral marsh]

Im only watching it because "event horizon" isnt on disney+

[warm finch]

ah finally made it back to ionized fuel! HUGE improvement over liquid biofuel lol

[ornate saffron]

thats more then fair

[ornate saffron]

lol

[unkempt blade]

is it farscape? because that's a great documentary

[ornate saffron]

mad max looks like mars but it not

[coral marsh]

Barsoom, anyone?

[viscid rapids]

anyone willing to help with trains lol

[ornate saffron]

i wana talk more but we move to #off-topic-general lol

people have legit factory querries

[unkempt blade]

sorry no one here likes trains 🙁

[coral marsh]

Speak for yourself

I love steam trains

[viscid rapids]

you gotta be kidding me,

[warm finch]

head over to #1038092680493801533 and we'll help out

[ornate saffron]

depnds... wahts the issue

[viscid rapids]

I thought that was a staple of the game lmao

[viscid rapids]

okay bet

[warm finch]

nah, trains out. Trucks are in!

[unkempt blade]

Yeah sorry it's a factory game. We're not really the right demographic for liking trains

[viscid rapids]

I mean I had trucks running

trains carry way more resources faster

[warm finch]

I was being facetious lol.

[ornate saffron]

but also require huge station and in frustructure

[viscid rapids]

not a problem for me

[proven snow]

Trains are a lot of fun

[jagged nymph]

early game is driving me insane

atleast im boutta finish up my starter factory

[ornate saffron]

you started again lol

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

i usally give it a month lol

[jagged nymph]

this time im planning it out though

instead of just saying "eh fuck it lets hope this works"

[deft drum]

i found a good way to get out of the early game funk is to go drop pod hunting for 50 IRP and Rotors to make smart plating with hand feeding

[jagged nymph]

well i need like 400 RIP for my starter factory

[ornate saffron]

im starring at my steam game debating to join the boys in rust. If i do ill hate myself lol

[jagged nymph]

or more

[white dawn]

Indeed!

[deft drum]

well i consider getting that first project shipment as clearing the early game

[jagged nymph]

id say completing phase 2 ends early game

[deft drum]

coal power is such a benchmark

[ornate saffron]

you arew

[jagged nymph]

yeah im gonna use all the coal at crater lake for power as soon as i get it

[white dawn]

Many Halloweens ago I went as holo-virus-infected Rimmer with a Mr. Flibble puppet I made. :D

[bleak valley]

I think I understand what people mean by centralized factory now

I might restart and expand out a lot more because right now I’m making all of the iron products in one place

So my supply of them is limited by my nodes

[white dawn]

No need to restart! Can just leave all that stuff just as it is. It's still producing stuff! Let it produce that stuff. You can head out and make new factories elsewhere

It'll be easier to make those new factories 'cause you'll still have all your original centralized stuff providing building materials for you

[bleak valley]

True

When I get internet i wanna share a picture of the interactive map with my save see how much space I really have left

[white dawn]

Restarting is a quite common urge folks get, so if you do restart you'll be in good company. Just beware burnout! It's probably a lot of work just to get yourself back to the same level of production you had before

Though so long as you're having fun, that's the important part. :)

[bleak valley]

I really love this game and I replay other way more linear games all the time burnout isn’t much of an issue for me

I’ve done three playthroughs of monster hunter world with the same weapon lol

[deft drum]

this your first Factory Game?

[bleak valley]

Yeah

[deft drum]

welcome

"we have such sights to show you"

[bleak valley]

I mean unless the survivalists counts it has optimizing production lines in a way

[deft drum]

there are "games with automation"

and then there are "automation games"

[bleak valley]

True

[ornate saffron]

poop 500mw left. imma going to have to upgradfe my power

[bleak valley]

I’ve only ever played games with automation

[warm finch]

blackout incoming!

[deft drum]

i was about to say "50 MW thats cutting it close!"

[bleak valley]

I might make a new power plant on my save just for fun

I enjoy the process and seeing the leaps in MW

[deft drum]

which phase are you at rn?

[bleak valley]

Starting phase 4

I just finished tier 7 in the hub

[ornate saffron]

phase 3. not my first rodeo i was just really hoping to hold of untiol blenders

[bleak valley]

I’m looking forward to nuclear plants

[deft drum]

i also have yet to do nuclear

will this next run

[bleak valley]

I like seeing big numbers on the power chart

It feels more tangible than having a factory produce a lot of items per minute

[deft drum]

been a rocket man for a while

[bleak valley]

I might try and upgrade my current fuel power into a turbo fuel one

I gotta look at recipes

[deft drum]

if you got blenders going from diluted fuel into rocket fuel is what i'd recommend

[bleak valley]

I just unlocked blenders

[deft drum]

expecially nitro rocket fuel if you built your pwoer in a good spot

"all toasters toast toast"

[bleak valley]

Right now it’s just a maxed out pump so 600 raw oil per minute going into refineries for fuel

[deft drum]

regular fuel or diluted?

[bleak valley]

Then into 10 overclocked generators

Regular I just unlocked diluted in a recent hard drive

[deft drum]

oh my sweet summer child

[faint idol]

is i possible to unlock all alternativ recepices?

[bleak valley]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

i only got 300 oil from a normal node doing hor to PDF

i gotta tap another thoguh

[bleak valley]

There are more hard drives then recipes available

[faint idol]

kk

[bleak valley]

Show me the way to more power

-# steam is taking ages to load but I’ll look at the diluted fuel recipe when I get into my save

100 per minute

[ornate saffron]

Heavy oil residue to Package diluted fuel is the way

[bleak valley]

I see this now

I’m gonna do some rebuilding

[deft drum]

by using the Heavy oil Residue recipe, and then using Diluted fuel you can turn 600 oil into 20 GW with 80 non-sharded generators

if you then use Nitro Rocket fuel you get 144 GW over 576 Generators

[deft drum]

*before blenders

[bleak valley]

Where am I gonna put 80 generators

[deft drum]

where is your fuel plant right now

[bleak valley]

These pipes might kill me

[deft drum]

ain't no might about it

[bleak valley]

Some islands on the left side of the map below the rocky desert

[deft drum]

a classic location

[bleak valley]

There were four oil nodes I turned three into rubber and plastic then the extra one on its own island into pure power

[deft drum]

but, you can put foundations out int othe sea

[bleak valley]

I guess so yeah

[deft drum]

unfortunately, there isn't that much sulfur on that side of the map for rocket fuel

[ornate saffron]

which is great for a starter power facility leave blue crator open

[real shale]

Okay, today I automated, smokeless powder, nobelisks, fabric and gas filters

My blue crater has pretty much been upped to a mega factory at this point, producing all sorts of stuff lmao

[deft drum]

yup, Blue Crater is the best place for ronket fuool

[bleak valley]

#screenshots message screenshot of my current setup

[ornate saffron]

watcha mean?

[real shale]

#screenshots message

Had two places where I could have automated fabric from, one being less risky and the other being "if you mess this up, your grid collapses"

Needless to say I went for the less risky option lmao

[deft drum]

what do ya think of mine back then? #screenshots message

[bleak valley]

Terrifying. I can’t wait

There is an oil thing here but it doesn’t use a oil extractor

[real shale]

Resource well

[deft drum]

it's an extra 900 oil/minute

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[real shale]

I decided to not touch the polymer resin the HOR linked to my 75 GW fuel power plant produces

[bleak valley]

Man I’ve barely started playing this game huh

[real shale]

God, cutting a power cable for like 5 seconds caused me to lose like 7.5 GW lmfao

[deft drum]

noe

only moved into a condo 6 months ago and i don't feel ready to take care of any pets yet

[bleak valley]

I want to create massive overboard factories

[deft drum]

just wait until you get into the other factory games like Factorio

[bleak valley]

Ok time to math out how many refineries I need of heavy oil

[warm finch]

won't be the last time either

[deft drum]

to consume a full 600 oil/minute you need 20 un-sharded refineries doing HOR, or 8 with 3 shards

[bleak valley]

That’s not too bad I’ll probably go with 8

I recently slooped all of my power slugs into shards

[deft drum]

that's a trick you only need to realize once

[real shale]

Now, in total my blue crater produces

Sulphuric acid, fuel, fuel, fuel, more fuel, fabric, gas filters, steel pipes, nobelisks, iron plates, smokeless powder, HOR, iron plates and now soon there might be plans to automate iodine infused filters (however I'm going to do that)

[deft drum]

that's one i couldn't crack into

but i am american who work outside so am barely concious at this point

[warm finch]

curious why sulphuric acid?

[deft drum]

either instant scrap or nuclear

[proven snow]

Is American air toxic?

[deft drum]

literally the only things it's useful for

[deft drum]

yes but this is from general exhaustion

i walked back and forth a lot today

[warm finch]

American in general is toxic lol

[proven snow]

Walking all day do be a lot

[deft drum]

especially when a quarter of the time your carrying like 40-50 pounds of gear

"if not freind why freind shaped"

[bleak valley]

I gotta start putting aluminum casing in my depot

[ornate saffron]

Our forest fire sometime choke them out

[real shale]

To go to my battery factory

[deft drum]

why batteries

[real shale]

For supercomputers

[warm finch]

classic battery alt recipe is fantastic

[real shale]

Ehhhhh it's aighttttt

I am personally not a fan of the classic battery recipe

Oh no I've automated super comps and all

[fickle locust]

Love this recipe

[warm finch]

I'd like to know your thoughts on it

[fickle locust]

Maybe just because it's burned into my brain from making it so much, but still

[ornate saffron]

I just use rockety fuel for vehicles

[deft drum]

ronket fuel and later plutonium rods

[fickle locust]

I don't know why but I find sulfuric acid really annoying

[near mural]

WE love biocoal

[fickle locust]

I think it's that sulfur is already really annoying, and now you're telling me I also need to put it with water? Yeah that's not that hard... but it's one thing too many

[real shale]

Well the classic battery recipe does add a bit more complexity to it despite it being fluidless imo, the addition of plastic and wire means I have to draw from extra nodes elsewhere, whereas with regular batteries I can make the alumina solution and casings in one location and just import sulphuric acid

It was just easier for me to use the original battery recipe

Another thing as well is that the supercomputers were already plastic intensive

[fickle locust]

The new battery recipe!
Get off my lawn young whippersnapper

[ornate saffron]

si get the impression this si not a pure statement. But i use biocoal

[real shale]

And I wasnt for using even more of it

[near mural]

genuinely how would you use biocoal

[ornate saffron]

animal parts to coal using sloops then sulfur plus coal with sloop for black powder.

i don fully automate ammo as i dont use much

[deft drum]

congratulation you made the first method power that doesn't require manual input require manual input

[near mural]

this makes sm sense

[deft drum]

ahh

[real shale]

Another thing as well is I did want to experiment with fluid trains

[deft drum]

typed that out before you explaned thyself

[real shale]

And honestly, I worked a treat for me lmao

[ornate saffron]

all recipes have htere uses ev en if you personally dont use it

[real shale]

Meow

[deft drum]

Fluid Trains are perfectly viable, they just don't "move as much per minute" as packaged fluids.

[ornate saffron]

Meowth! Thats right

[deft drum]

but the solution to that problem is shrimple

[deft drum]

MORE TRAINS

[bleak valley]

Jesus I need 1600 water per minute

[deft drum]

yeahj

[bleak valley]

I’m going to try my best to keep the pipes clean

[real shale]

Iirc TotalXclipse did ask if fluid trains might be getting a capacity buff on stream and there was something there

So it's possible they might increase the capacity of them

Honestly I wouldn't say no to it

[bleak valley]

Overclocking is gonna make this power plant bearable lol

[jagged nymph]

finally finished the starter factory... now just to wire up the power

[ornate saffron]

Train fluids are fine they dont need a buff

[deft drum]

i like setting it up so you have 8 water extractors (at about 168, just set them to 200/minute) feed 1-1 into 200% blenders

[ornate saffron]

Pop goes the fuse :p

[bleak valley]

Yeah that’s my plan

[jagged nymph]

thats not even that much tbh

[real shale]

They are fine with fluids it's with gases where they become completely useless

[bleak valley]

This is my first very large project I’d say

[jagged nymph]

yeah lol, its 400mw and im only producing 100 rn...

[real shale]

Given the 1:4 ratio of packaging

For fluids its fine imo

[deft drum]

remember, you can build on a raised platform and have the extractor underneath

[jagged nymph]

whtas it make

[real shale]

But again, I will not say no to a capacity buff on fluid trains especially considering it'd make dual input a lot more appealable

[bleak valley]

A whole lot of power

[jagged nymph]

how much and what kind of power

[bleak valley]

Fuel

I’ll find out how much when it’s done

[jagged nymph]

lol you dont know?

[deft drum]

if it's 600 oil into diluted fuel it'll be 20 GW

[bleak valley]

I’m just maxing out the 600 oil per minute I have

[jagged nymph]

i see

im gonna make a 300gw rocket fuel plant once i unlock it

[real shale]

Diluted fuel is the reason I'm skipping rocket and turbo fuel and going straight to nuclear, I have a lot more power than I need right now, diluted fuel my beloved

[ornate saffron]

nitro rocket fuel WITH HOR and DF is great too

[deft drum]

144 GW from 600 oil is pretty nice

[deft drum]

double it if you use 16 sloops (don't)

[ornate saffron]

i actually wrote Nitro rocket fuel guide lol

[real shale]

I have 140 GW rn, just need to automate iodine filters and off to the yummy uranium I go

I will write a bean guide

[ornate saffron]

do it STEVE DESERVES LOVE!!!

[real shale]

Oh I meant a hunting guide

[bleak valley]

Alright blenders are all hooked up now I just have to place the crazy amount of generators

[white dawn]

Chapter 4: Preparing "Beanways" in Your Factories To Prepare For Inspection Time

[real shale]

Why can't I strap an industrial container to a bean and have it transport stuff for me

0

[bleak valley]

So I’ll need 32 max overclocked generators

Four per blender

Alright I think i know how I’ll place it

[real shale]

SPAGHETTI

[bleak valley]

Hopefully not

[sick falcon]

its going to take me 2560 minutes to clear out the uranium waste ive built up, is it even worth it atp

[ornate saffron]

lewave it and use what yoiu can for pluto

[sick falcon]

no like thats how long it will take to convert it all into plutonium rods

[tidal dock]

How do I reverse the belt for a conveyor wall?

[weak bloom]

NO I'M A FOOOOL I have been fishing for the nitro rocket fuel recipe WITHOUT UNLOCKING ROCKET FUEL

[bleak valley]

I’ve only built half of the generators and my power is already 5GW higher than before

[hollow idol]

it happens to the best of us

[bleak valley]

What’s a use for polymer resin just sinking it to get rid of it currently

[jagged nymph]

turb it into plastic, rubber, or fabric

[bleak valley]

I don’t really have a source of fabric so I’ll go for that I guess

[jagged nymph]

i mean you dont really need more thgan a couple fabric a minuite for gas filters

[bleak valley]

Secondary question is there a way to make a storage fill up before it sends anything out to a sink for example

[jagged nymph]

yes, smart splitter

its in the caterium research tree

[bleak valley]

I have smart splitters I just don’t know how to set it up right to achieve that

[jagged nymph]

set one output to any, set one output to overflow

send the overflow to the sink

[bleak valley]

Ah I got it I was trying to do it after the storage it needs to go before

[jagged nymph]

yes

you cant control when something comes out of an output, it will always just force its contents onto the belt if theres free space

[dense violet]

tap r

[bleak valley]

28GW power capacity now

It was 14GW before

And my max consumption is 10GW lol

[jagged nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yDLm7QEm-Kw
😭

[lethal solar]

Will you have to restart a world for 1.2

[bleak valley]

Peak

That would suck

[jagged nymph]

nah, but back up your save just in case something breaks

[dense violet]

no

[feral jay]

He did hint "You might want to", though

[spice osprey]

Is there a way to use dismatle filter so that it doesn't dismatle a certain object type, rather than making it so it only dismatles that type?

[feral jay]

Historically they've been fantastic with not breaking existing saves

[spice osprey]

Basically, I want to delete everything except the foundation

[feral jay]

No, and I wish there was

"Delete all but foundations" would be awesome

[bleak valley]

No more procrastinating I gotta fix my aluminum

I’ve overclocked the aluminum stuff by 2% to see if the little bit extra will stop the smelters from being starved

[hybrid nymph]

You do that! 😜

No more procrastinating, you need to fix that aluminum

So question for you guys

[bleak valley]

It’s just one or two machines per group that is a couple scrap short every now and then

[hybrid nymph]

Yes it is

So I am debating on whether or not to use my compacted coal for a coal factory or a turbo fuel factory

[bleak valley]

I don’t get why it’s not working

[hybrid nymph]

I have the vanilla upgrades mod installed, and I am going to upgrade the coal generators to be 150% base clock speed which means each generator will produce 112.5 MW, and I could put 64 of them and that would generate 7,200 MW, however if I turned all of it into turbo fuel, I could get 625 MW from each generator, and I could run 17 of them which would generate 10,625 MW

[bleak valley]

Is the manifold just going to take a really long time to saturate

[hybrid nymph]

Yes it will

[bleak valley]

So I can’t fix it unless I prefill the machines ig

[spare prism]

hi

[bleak valley]

Hello

[weak bloom]

radiation doesn't affect items right? like trains/belts through areas with some uranium nearby will be fine?

[spare prism]

I’m 6k out of 50k rn

I’m getting there

[bleak valley]

I guess I’ll leave the aluminum alone for a while and wait to see if the final machines fill up

[jagged nymph]

nope, it just damages you

[weak bloom]

god can you imagine if radioactive contamination was a thing that would make a fun mod

[hybrid nymph]

Radiation only affects the immediate area it is in. If it's in a train, the train will be radioactive, if it's in an industrial storage unit, the storage will be radioactive ☢️
You are immune to radiation while you're in a vehicle

[jagged nymph]

not what they asked

[hybrid nymph]

So no your items won't be radioactive, you're fine. Just keep the radioactive stuff at least 150 meters from your base

[bleak valley]

The intrusive thoughts of tearing down my current aluminum and making it way bigger because I can overclock the bauxite nodes

[jagged nymph]

dont tear down, just expand

[bleak valley]

I have two pure nodes and a regular with mk2 miners

[bleak valley]

It’s built in an awkward way expanding would be tough

[jagged nymph]

expand it upwards

im only now realizing how few things steel products are used for other than buildings

[bleak valley]

Yeah

I built a very nice steel factory and it’s barely used lol

[jagged nymph]

like its pretty much just stators heavy modular frames and nuclear fuel rods

[bleak valley]

That one would be easy to expand

I also want to rebuild my aluminum because it feels like something’s wrong the final smelters start filling up then randomly go back to having nothing in them

[jagged nymph]

did you do your math correctly?

or are the manifolds just not done yet

[bleak valley]

It’s 360 out and in

[jagged nymph]

are all of the manifolds saturated yet

[bleak valley]

I have six smelters on one manifold, the first four are full and the final two start filling up then when I stop paying attention they go back to empty

[magic void]

Other than your stations and intersections do you need to run block signals on open track?

[dense violet]

just make another next to it?

[jagged nymph]

are the manifolds before it done yet

like for the alumina solution and such

[dense violet]

also - avoid connecting up the 2 nodes for processing - it's way messier and more annoying

[bleak valley]

Yeah those have been running for a long time now

[jagged nymph]

are you sure theyre done though

[bleak valley]

I currently have all three running together

[jagged nymph]

and are you sure that the math is done correctly throughout the entire production line and that the belts can hold the right amount

[bleak valley]

Just checked the other machines they are full and after producing a batch they immediately fill up to max again

360 aluminum scrap goes out to six smelters needing 60 each

[dense violet]

I mean it's doable , but you're much les likely to run into issues processing each node on it's own and

[jagged nymph]

can your belts hold the right amount then? that shouldnt happen

[bleak valley]

I’m using mark 5 belts just to make it go faster

[bleak valley]

I might just do that then. Overclock my pure one to run this current setup on its own then make a second setup on the other pure node

[bleak valley]

I’m watching the problem smelter right now to see what happens

Currently it’s very slowly gaining scrap it’s at 5/2 right now

[spare prism]

DO IT

im the one guy on your sholder listen to me

[bleak valley]

There it went

It randomly ran out

The one before it doesn’t have a max stack anymore

It’s like the entire system hiccups and it doesn’t send the right amount out

I’m gonna watch a throughput monitor and see what happens

#screenshots message

[dense violet]

they are often not accurate - how much bauxite are you processing and what recipes?

[bleak valley]

I’m watching the refinery now to see if it gets clogged or something

600 bauxite into sloppy alumina>default scrap>pure aluminum ingot

I might’ve found the issue

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xY9maNo6X9hP6NBIGTPz

[bleak valley]

It’s the waste water as usual

[dense violet]

are you mixing the fresh and waste water?

[bleak valley]

Yeah

[dense violet]

yeah don't do that

[bleak valley]

I have a fluid buffer that has fresh and waste going into it

[dense violet]

yeah especially don't do that

[bleak valley]

Alright then

[dense violet]

I'm going to link you to a thread exactly about this #math-and-meta message

it's a very simple method of manage waste water - basically full proof and you can use it later for gasses

[bleak valley]

Yeah I’ve seen it a few times

I’ve been lurking

[dense violet]

the whole conversation is a pretty thorough explanation on how to keep it split.

it's objectively the most reliable way and imo also the simplest

all it requires is a bit of extremely basic math for clocking

[bleak valley]

Needing to underclock one of my machines is a bit unfortunate

[dense violet]

can always OC some of the others

[bleak valley]

It won’t be too bad if I build a second one with the extra bauxite I now have

[jagged nymph]

i dont understand why people say aluminum is complicated

[bleak valley]

The default recipe is a bit complicated since you need a lot of extra stuff

[jagged nymph]

like bro its 3 machines

[bleak valley]

I chose the recipes that cutout as much extra as possible

[jagged nymph]

its just quartz and coal, and if you use pure aluminum, you can use just bauxite and coal with a little bit less output

[bleak valley]

Sloppy+pure my beloved combo

[jagged nymph]

yeah, with pure aluminum and sloppy alumina its super simple

[jagged nymph]

exactly

like genuinely why would you ever use the default when sloppy exists

its just simply better in every possible way

[stone scarab]

My hard drives hate me

[jagged nymph]

it needs less bauxite, water, and produces no byprduct like theres no reason to not use it

[stone scarab]

Hard drives hate me

[jagged nymph]

why

[stone scarab]

Dunno

Bad luck ig

[jagged nymph]

so youre just saying they hate you for no reason

[stone scarab]

Like I get stitched plates🤮

[jagged nymph]

every alternate has a purpose

all of them are useful in some scenarios

[stone scarab]

Yeah but i don’t like em

[bitter niche]

Yo how goes it Cobalt?

hey I'm no longer new aww

[bitter niche]

what's a stitched plate?

[elfin smelt]

might not have got lucky with hard drives
and it requires much much much more quartz than the default one

[near mural]

alternate recipe for reinforced iron plates that takes wire instead of screws

[bitter niche]

no way, that's so much easier

[jagged nymph]

no it doesnt? it uses no quartz. And you can just use pure aluminum ingots for that

[bitter niche]

making reinforced iron plates is so annoying

[jagged nymph]

not really, the defauly uses just iron, the alt uses iron and copper

[elfin smelt]

ah yes, another recipe that someone might not have got lucky to found

[near mural]

you can also get iron wire to make it all one smooth production chain

[jagged nymph]

how its just iron products

[elfin smelt]

not everyone has every alt recipe

thats the point of them being alternative

and being rng

[bitter niche]

I'm only on tier 3...

I just unlocked the 2nd milestone on tier 3

[jagged nymph]

then get more hard drives, there enough for every recipe. Also, they arent alternate for rng, theyre alternate just to be different recipes to suit different needs

[near mural]

you got coal power setup?

[bitter niche]

I do yes, I have 12 generators setup

[near mural]

going from biomass to coal genuinely feels magical

[dense violet]

It goes, thanks for asking xD

[ornate saffron]

fml turned on the game blinked and two hours past

[elfin smelt]

yeah and one of those needs are having to deal with less silica with the default recipe

[near mural]

ive unexpected had no work the past few days and didnt realize til today that i spent all the time on satisfactory 😭

[elfin smelt]

I don't find hard drive hunting very fun so thats not an option

[ornate saffron]

ya, that can happen

[bitter niche]

I am going to unlock basic steel production next, then logistics mk3

[near mural]

hardest part abt unlocking steal is getting the coal imo

[weak bloom]

nitro rocket fuel recipe get \o/

[bitter niche]

I started in the grassy fields, there are 2 pure coal nodes very near to me

at least the scanner says so

[ornate saffron]

yup, the ones to the north by north west are perfect for power

[sinful bobcat]

I have a satisfactory Rorschach

[ornate saffron]

its the GOAT!

it is more goat then goat sim

place the Boom box playing the worst of goat sim while you build

[sinful bobcat]

In a basic aluminum set up

What does one do with the excess water

[ornate saffron]

you can feed it back in or use it for Power, or wt concrete or Any of the pure resipes

[sinful bobcat]

Good answer

[ornate saffron]

if you want to feed it back in tak alook at this long covo from earlier today

#math-and-meta message

[sinful bobcat]

I see cobalt, I don’t need to read more

He’s dumb the last time I talked to him

[stone scarab]

Advanced iron plate that uses copper wire, sorry for late reply

[ornate saffron]

he knows his stuff, but you do you

[sinful bobcat]

Last time (was months ago) he said aluminum waste water can’t loop back into itself because it just “doesn’t work”

[feral jay]

I'm aware of his thoughts on the matter. He doesn't say it can't be done, but that he doesn't recommend it (sry fat fingered the enter key)

[sinful bobcat]

I just remember a lengthy debate between the recyclers and the deniers

[ornate saffron]

I'm not here for a argument or smack talking others i lead you to a resource. whether you use it is up to you my dude.

[sinful bobcat]

Someone called a working example of it survivor bias or something

[weak bloom]

oooh heat exchanger seems REALLY good

[feral jay]

Meh, I tend to go the recycle&merge route, I have a few set up now this save running on 900/min pipes

But it gets tricky for sure

[sinful bobcat]

As long as you understand pipes you can do it, but if you don’t understand pipes it can be hard

[feral jay]

If the ratios work out perfectly I'll separate the waste from the fresh too, it depends on which recipes I'm using

[sinful bobcat]

Think someone said water towers don’t work in that big debate too.

[feral snow]

I follow the "add more pipes until it works" school of fluid dynamics

[sinful bobcat]

Tbh valves solve 80% of pipe problems

[bitter niche]

ooh okay, sounds great

[bleak valley]

I’m now making 900 aluminum ingots a minute (once all the manifolds stabilize)

[bitter niche]

nice, i don't know what that means, but sounds great!

[hybrid nymph]

I just use my wastewater for coal generators

[sinful bobcat]

For me it depends

[hybrid nymph]

would you believe me if I told you i got banned from the offical Dueling Book Yugioh discord server

[sinful bobcat]

The what

[hybrid nymph]

It was a yugioh server

[ornate saffron]

I play MTG so ya, i do believe it lol

[hybrid nymph]

I simply said, "The META players and Konami's idiot corporate executives are fully to blame for the reason the game sucks"

ooh the admins didn't like that

[sinful bobcat]

Damn

[hybrid nymph]

so they banned me

their loss lol

[weak bloom]

wow wtf with diluted fuel and heavy oil residue you can get 600 rocket fuel out of 150 crude oil?!? that's insane lmfao

[ornate saffron]

oh yes!

[ornate saffron]

can i dm you?

[weak bloom]

sure

[hybrid nymph]

do I put random questions in #off-topic-general ?

[ornate saffron]

i guess

[hybrid nymph]

okay

Alright, on tier 8, let's go, with my mods

[bleak valley]

Now I have to add to my finished aluminum products line to accommodate the new influx of ingots

Good thing i made that easier to add on to

[hybrid nymph]

excellent thing yes

[jagged nymph]

im making a spreadsheet working back from the last space elevator parts to see about how much of each thing i need to make and like honestly this isnt even bad

i mean im only going to be making
2 ai expansion servers
2 ballistic warp drives
8 bio sculptors
5 nuclear pasta
per minute

so im not doing a crazy amount but still

[ornate frost]

anything specific to look out for when setting up my first fuel plant? (any potential problems to look out for?). My motor factory is just about done and Im gonna work on fuel right after

[jagged nymph]

main thing is fluids can be tricky

they do a lot of wierd things that you wouldnt expect unless youve worked with them before

main thing is fluids should travel down typically, dont try to pump them high up, and DO NOT USE FLUID BUFFERS

[ornate frost]

what purpose do fluid buffers actually serve? it seems like they cause more issues than they solve

[dense violet]

that is accurate

[jagged nymph]

not really anything

[dense violet]

the however are needed for fluid trains

[jagged nymph]

ive never once used one

[hollow hemlock]

they can also look cool

[dense violet]

oh yeah, just don't connect them to annything and use them aesthetically. I do that all the time

the smaller ones look better though imo. More uses from them

[hybrid nymph]

they provide backup fluid if your pump or machine producing the fluid goes offline

[jagged nymph]

then dont make it go offline. This is a non issue

[hybrid nymph]

they allow you to produce more than you use and have a resivour of fluid

[bleak valley]

Alright aluminum successfully expanded out

[jagged nymph]

nice

[hybrid nymph]

someone you aren't producing enough to always pwoer your turbofuel refineries, or you produce more than you use, this fixes it

[jagged nymph]

thats just a bad design from the start then if you have to do that

[bleak valley]

The aluminum parts are basically just scrap currently but I have them when I need them

[jagged nymph]

how much aluminum are you making

[feral jay]

I keep fuel reserves, and battery backup reserves, because I'm fallible and make mistakes.

[bleak valley]

900 ingots per minute

[jagged nymph]

nice

[bleak valley]

I’ll get the numbers for the parts rq

[jagged nymph]

im gonna be making 3780 once i set mine up

but thatll be a while from now

im trying to make a ton of stuff on this save

i may regret that later though....

but more number higher me see number neuron activation

[bleak valley]

420 sheets per minute and 300 casings

[jagged nymph]

ill be doing 780 sheets and 2000 casings

[feral jay]

Damn I just cracked 2 million awesmone points/min

[jagged nymph]

nice

[feral jay]

Sustained

[jagged nymph]

whats your main point source

[feral jay]

All the things

All my machines run at 100% all the time and all the excess is sunk

[jagged nymph]

yeah but like whadyou think is makign the most

[feral jay]

Never done the math actually

Sinking the computers I'm not using nets me 167k/min and I'm sinking 900 aluminium ingots/min for 226k

Oh a shitload of petcoke too

330/min batteries minus a small amount used for drones gets me another 140k

[weak bloom]

wait you need SO few machines for nitro rocket fuel too, this recipe chain is STUPID o_O

[feral jay]

It would be nice if individual sinks would tell you how much they're generating on their own

[weak bloom]

hmmmm I also realized I can take my existing turbofuel production and just package + sink it and not bother with reworking that facility. and then later on send it to power drones

[elfin smelt]

what I would like is sink points being in the item info, in-game

[bleak valley]

That would be nice

I’m sitting at 406k sink points per minute currently

The later stuff needs a lot more overflow protection

[acoustic cobalt]

we should get a vc

[west jackal]

why package and not burn it?

[spice osprey]

How do I set up rubber and plastic production when I first unlock it? Packaging and Fuel power both require plastic and rubber to unlock, so I’m confused about what to do with the heavy oil residue. How do I get rid of it?

[drowsy kelp]

Flush it

[feral jay]

Easiest way is to turn it into petroleum coke, and sink that

Haha yes or set up industrial buffers and periodically flush them

[weak bloom]

I guess I might as well but the rocket fuel is gonna produce SO much extra power. I'll keep the gens going until I need the packaged fuel but it'll be fine to deactivate those eventually

[ornate saffron]

as you refine oil into Heavy oil you will get polymer turn that into plastic

[jagged nymph]

no no turn it into fuel and burn it for extra power

[weak bloom]

also do I need to actually power the resource well pressurizer before it lets me place the extractors? o_O

[jagged nymph]

yes

[feral jay]

Ah, then the easiest way is Residual Fuel

I get rid of some like that from time to time

[west jackal]

before you get fuel power just flush haha

[weak bloom]

and I need no pumps at all in the entire nitrogen gas pipeline correct?

headlift just isn't a concern for gases?

[dense violet]

nope not for headlift

[drowsy kelp]

Nitrogen gas is… a gas, gasses don’t have headlift

[feral jay]

Correct, headlift doesn't affect gases

[jagged nymph]

yep, gasses just follow the pipe

[spice osprey]

Polymer is a byproduct of producing fuel, but I haven’t unlocked anything that uses fuel yet, so if I tried to produce that everything would just back up.

[drowsy kelp]

They mean the heavy oil residue alternate

[jagged nymph]

then turn heavy oil residue into petroleum coke for now and sink it

[drowsy kelp]

It produces exclusively HOR and polymer resin

It’s something for later

[spice osprey]

I’ll be entirely honest, someone had told me a while ago that petroleum coke was pretty much useless so I never even bothered to look at its recipe. But yeah, that should work. TY

[jagged nymph]

or wait

am i wrong on that? i saw that somewhere

maybe it cant be used in anything just certain things nvm \

[feral jay]

I found it useful for my battery plant this save since the coke was a byproduct of my plastic production and batteries need aluminium, so I fed it to electrode scrap refineries https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=o3GSpWurtE0LM9pZ2c6V

[jagged nymph]

you can burn petroleum coke in coal gens though

[spice osprey]

I believe that it can be burned it coal power plants but it can’t be used to make steal.

[jagged nymph]

it can be burned in coal gens and can make steel with an alternate

[feral jay]

But I think that's the only place I've actually used it

[elfin smelt]

petroleum coke is gud

[jagged nymph]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Petroleum_Coke
check this

[feral jay]

Heh, I've never burned it for power

[elfin smelt]

I managed to avoid bringing copper to my first computer factory because of petroleum coke alts

[feral jay]

If I burn all the coke I'm generating, I could make 7.2GW if I build 96 generators, that's not really worth the hassle imo

[unkempt blade]

coke fixes nearly as many problems as factory carts do

[spice osprey]

I haven’t unlocked many alternate recipes yet, but one of the few I do have is making steel pipes out of iron. So that saves me a lot of coal, meaning I have a pretty hefty power grid for my current tier. I don’t really need to burn the coke for extra power. I should be good until I unlock fuel power at least

[jagged nymph]

whats next, factory carts smell like shit?

[feral jay]

No, factory carts make your shit smell like roses. Are you daft?

[jagged nymph]

perhaps

[unkempt blade]

you clearly don't understand the naming convention

[dense violet]

coke is incredibly useful in the situations they are useful in xD

[jagged nymph]

clearly i dont

[feral jay]

That holds true for all things in this game lol

Even biocoal

[dense violet]

pretty much

[jagged nymph]

why would ANYONE ever use biocoal

[feral snow]

Cocaine was a Stimulant used by a priest class of the earliy-middle period United States called Businessmen to commune with The Market.

[jagged nymph]

like it it fr in the game as a joke?

[unkempt blade]

to get coal 🙂

[dense violet]

that trade off is questionable - coal and iron is the most common combo of resourdes you find - and iron pipe CHEWS through iron. I think iron is a trash resource to be used everywhere and iron pipe is painful to me

[lethal solar]

How do you upgrade your version?

[bleak valley]

I used it for a bit to run a tractor that brought my steel to my main factory since it was easy to throw the various plant parts into a small system to make it

Why are 6 inventory slots locked behind sulfur research now I have to care about it

[jagged nymph]

i just use a +300 inventory slots mod

[bleak valley]

I mean now that dimensional depots are common in my factory I don’t really care but I’m gonna do it anyway for completion sake

[dense violet]

right click, properties

[jagged nymph]

even if i had 2000 slots i would still fill them up

[dense violet]

on the name in steam

[bleak valley]

This line actually got repurposed for liquid biofuel

[feral jay]

heh I built a power storage blueprint, and then found out it's impossible to carry enough inventory to actually build it, I had to knoock it down a floor, and even then, I still need the boost from the DD even with a full inventory

[jagged nymph]

imagine a harvesting vehicle that harvest bushes and cuts down trees as you drove through them to get tons of bio materials

=i mean it wouldnt be that useful

but it would make stuff like liquid biofuel much more viable

[feral jay]

They previously just destroyerd all the bushes they ran over

I think they changed that when 1.0 released

[jagged nymph]

but you didnt get the materials right>

[feral jay]

Nope

It caused some performance issues because the default state of the map is loaded first, and then changes are applied as you come within range of them

It was a lot of changed terrain to load in in some cases

[unkempt blade]

liquid biofuel is already viable as long as you're not running large amounts of power generation from it

[placid sigil]

bio- im out

[jagged nymph]

holy

im gonna need 6000 copper ingots for 5 nuclear pasta

[bleak valley]

Putting radar towers across the entire map because I can

Also spreads power across most of the map

[ornate saffron]

Yup, hungry pasta

[bleak valley]

Gotta wait ten minutes for radio control units

[subtle pebble]

just make your factory efficient

[bleak valley]

I’m not sorting through the spaghetti that is my manufacturer floor

[subtle pebble]

mine is absolute spaghetti and it was efficient

[bleak valley]

I mean I’m using every material I have to its fullest I just happen to not be producing enough to have more than one manufacturer per item

[subtle pebble]

tragic

i just threw random crap til i had enough resources

[bleak valley]

I just need to make more factories

[mental wraith]

How can I change the orientation of the construction mode? I want to rotate an object by 10 degrees, not 90 degrees.

[subtle pebble]

idk

[bleak valley]

Don’t think you can

[next ivy]

you can hold ctrl

for stuff like foundation

[mental wraith]

It works

[bleak valley]

There are tricks to get specific rotations but I don’t know if you can make it rotate a specific amount naturally

[mental wraith]

THANKS

[bleak valley]

I’ve learned new thing

[subtle pebble]

epic

[bleak valley]

Only for foundations tho hm

[subtle pebble]

ive finished the main game but now all i need to do is other side things

[mental wraith]

I don't dare imagine your map

[bleak valley]

I just rotated myself to get the right orientation

[mental wraith]

Lol

[next ivy]

it works for a couple of things

[bleak valley]

I should stop saying things

Especially if I don’t actually know lmao

[next ivy]

foundation was just an example i used

[mental wraith]

And how do we do that by extending a platform?

[ornate frost]

YAY
OIL

[next ivy]

i dont follow ?

[subtle pebble]

me when changing oil

[bleak valley]

40/50 radio control units yippee

[mental wraith]

LEt me show you

Oh we can't send a video

[bleak valley]

Yippee another hub milestone done

[jagged nymph]

nice

[mental wraith]

How do you block and move a hologram?*

[next ivy]

H to lock it in place

[mental wraith]

Nop

[next ivy]

then arrow keys and page up/down

[mental wraith]

Lock and moove

THANKS IT WORKS

[next ivy]

i again dont follow, but im guessing you mean zoop `?

which you can switch to with R

[mental wraith]

IT's ok

I found it, thanks

[bleak valley]

A good few hours today

Fixed a lot of stuff

Tomorrow I gotta expand and figure out the new recipes

[jagged nymph]

tommorow i setup coal power and start my megafactory

[near mural]

how to hide vehicle path nodes?

[normal orbit]

its in the record ui somewhere

[near mural]

ty

[clever sandal]

should i play satisfactory when im on a tram

[gentle lava]

ro why is satisfactory giving me aussie subtitles

its not even what the Ai is saying

[bold heron]

how many biogenerators can 1 100% solid biofule constructor fule ?

[west jackal]

trying to save a color for a sign, it says it saved but then if i try and load the same color it changes

anyone know why?

[next ivy]

15

[normal orbit]

theres a bug in the sign ui where when you select a color it picks one like one or two below or above

[west jackal]

lovely

[next ivy]

blueprint the sign itself, then copy paste from that physical sign :3

[bold heron]

thanks

[normal orbit]

or jsut middle mouse click grab it

[next ivy]

that is a form of copy

pipette is great

[west jackal]

doesnt work when i need to change size or shape

[normal orbit]

no it doesnt

[west jackal]

?

lemme try 1 sec

if i change the size after mmb then it resets the settings

[gentle lava]

how to craft portable miner it isnt on crafting menu

[next ivy]

manually

in the tool workshop

[mental wraith]

Can they please just remove the spiders from the game? I'm arachnophobic. Bro, who came up with this fucking idea?

[normal orbit]

no you have to reconfigure the sign when changing it

you can copy paste the hex code tho

[next ivy]

theres a setting

[gentle lava]

ah i see

[normal orbit]

theres arachnophobia mode and you can also outright turn them off in advanced game settings, but that will disable achievments

[mental wraith]

That doesn't eliminate the sounds and movements; in the end, I still know it's a spider, lol.

[next ivy]

alcohol fixes that

[mental wraith]

I'm a little too lazy to spend the next 1000 hours of my life drunk

[normal orbit]

you can also turn off aggressiveness on enemies, so you dont have a giant catface leap at you

[next ivy]

you just have to get really drunk once, that will leave you with enough brain damage that you wont remember theyre spiders

[mental wraith]

Does this disable achievements?

[normal orbit]

no

[mental wraith]

Are you sure about that ?

[next ivy]

well, i dont have first hand experience

[mental wraith]

And if I attack it, will they attack me?

[normal orbit]

depends which setting you choose. passive they wont do anything if you beat em up. retaliation they will fight back

[mental wraith]

Dude, the first time I played the game with a friend, he killed all the spiders for me. To tell you the truth, my heart rate went up to 180 and my watch told me I had a heart problem, lol

[mental wraith]

Can't we just remove them and put something else ?

[acoustic bear]

the spiders and stuff do nothing for the gameplay

[normal orbit]

yea phobias are a thing. at least you have multiple options in this game to deal with it

[acoustic bear]

just put it in passive mode and let it go

[normal orbit]

if you use the AGS setting it removes them and replaces em with hogs

[mental wraith]

I like this fighting aspect

[mental wraith]

Ags ?

[normal orbit]

but you can't complete the mam research then and ags disables achievments

[hybrid jewel]

Why cant I hold my lizard doggo😭

[normal orbit]

advanced game settings

[mental wraith]

awwww

[gentle lava]

how can one be this afraid of spiders?

[normal orbit]

actually not uncommon

[next ivy]

yea women are way scarier

[mental wraith]

Bro, seriously, I'm not afraid of much and I'm not the type to be scared of anything or show that I'm scared, but inside I'm dying. I can't control it, it's my fucking brain that's reacting badly

[mental wraith]

😭

[gentle lava]

Ive never seen anyone go this far to get rid of spiders hence why im wondering lol

u could try avoid them are they like guarding a resource u need

[mental wraith]

I'm trying, I even chose the desert to start with because it's the only place where there aren't any, but now I need to move around a lot

[gentle lava]

Well Do u haves guns yet?

[mental wraith]

Bro, in real life, if there's a spider, just know that grabbing a drink to get it out of my house isn't an option because I can see it too closely. So I vacuum it up, then I put several layers of tissues over the end of the vacuum and then tape it so it can't get out. 😭

[solar narwhal]

Have you played the game? They are impossible to avoid

[gentle lava]

Just started lmao like 30mins in

[gentle lava]

Jesus man 😭

[mental wraith]

I'm AFK on the game, but I'm at this stage:

Oh we can't send picture

I just unlocked the train

"Tchou thcou motherf****"

[gentle lava]

oh so u do have guns cause pretty sure thats a decent way in