satisfactory

[normal orbit]

encased uranium cell + uranium fuel rod = 7.8 fuel rods/min for 97.500mw. or infused uranium cell + uranium fuel unit for 18.72 for 234.000mw

[reef basin]

just post the link 🙂

you are the one making accusations, you're the one that should provide proof

[tall lantern]

nowhere did you says alts were off the table until loooong after we'd started giving you the better numbers

[normal orbit]

60% less power is better numbers? O.o

[autumn path]

when did i say it is better numbers?

[reef basin]

234GW over 97.5GW is 60% less?

[tall lantern]

better numbers as in "you can make more than that much with 780 uranium"

[normal orbit]

roughly

like 58.3%?

[autumn path]

Yea you can make plutonium also, but i didn't ask him for that lol

[reef basin]

it's 240% more. We're giving the 234GW

[tall lantern]

I'm pretty sure 234 is more than 97.5

[normal orbit]

idk, brain math not going and i can't be arsed to do it

but mein said he provided better numbers for the non alts, so yea, it would be 60% less

[tall lantern]

we haven't even started on factoring that in yet lol

[autumn path]

I told him likke 3 times that i meant without alts and he kept going, not my fault he can't read

[reef basin]

no, they said they provided better numbers before non-alts was mentioned

[autumn path]

no, I said we provide dthe accurate/proper numbers for what we were discussing. I said you were wrong not that you numbers weren't higher

[unkempt blade]

all I know is that greeny is always correct except when it comes to his opinion of cast screws which is woefully misguided at best

[reef basin]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1479091435100700704 this is first mention that could mean non-alts. That's way past all the convo where I gave you the numbers, and definitely not mentioned 3 times

[rigid surge]

you should use alts, #screenshots message thats enough to power 250 reactors an it uses less than 2 pure nodes of the nodes required if you make everything from scratch at your nuclear plant

[normal orbit]

and what i mean was 97.5gw is 60% less than 234gw

[reef basin]

yeah but we gave them 234GW which is more than their original 97.5GW 🙂

[tall lantern]

their original 93GW*

[autumn path]

you didn't giv eme anything, we were dicussing basic production....

[normal orbit]

i just find it weird to complain about the power gains when choosing the least power to make

[reef basin]

I find it weird to not specify you don't want alts and then complain that nobody can read your mind

[autumn path]

who said we were discussing my build...

I said it is weird that the first jump to basic urnanium from oil is so low

[reef basin]

I gave you the link with numbers

[reef basin]

Uranium fuel rods seems like a huge exspense of time and materials for not that much of a power upgrade
there's absolutely not any mention of "basic" or "non-alt"

[autumn path]

no you didn't, you gave me a link to a blankcalculator

[reef basin]

change the tab to the last one

it gets imported at the end of your tabs

[autumn path]

really need to beat a dead horse? no one wanted your input, get the point.

[reef basin]

don't post in a public forum if you don't want opinions lol

[tall lantern]

a full 600/min of oil only gets you 400 fuel -> 5000 MW, fwiw. if we're comparing altless

so nuclear's a heck of a jump there 😛

[rigid surge]

he doesnt want your input fyi 😉

[autumn path]

We all like Meindratheal

[reef basin]

I guess don't bother, they will take your messages out of context, then complain you understood them wrong, and at the end they'll tell you that they already said 4 times something that they didn't mention at all

[normal orbit]

well, 600 crude can be turned into 2400 rokkit for 144gw. 600 uranium can be turned in 14.4 fuel rods for 180gw, but then add plutonum for another 160gw, then 80gw for ficonium for total of 420gw. same basic resource input

[fervent crypt]

Hey ! Am I the only one who hears some similarities between Satisfactory and Dead Island 2 musics ?

[normal orbit]

so thats comparing like best oil does to best uranium does, and its nearly 3x power

[next ivy]

and oil is needed for other stuff

in rough quantities

[reef basin]

while uranium is practically pointless apart from power

[next ivy]

pasta maybe

[normal orbit]

its only used to make power

[reef basin]

pasta needs 0 uranium

[next ivy]

very confusing name then

[rigid surge]

power & nukes is its only use im sure

[reef basin]

nuclear nobelisk

[normal orbit]

-_-

[reef basin]

why so?

[next ivy]

isnt it nuclear pasta

i might be mixing up the name

[reef basin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pasta

[normal orbit]

yes, but it has nothing to do with nuclear power, and more to do with the nucleus of neutron stars

[autumn path]

Nuclear just means relating to the nucleus of an atom

[reef basin]

that ^

nuclear power is also just power of atoms 🙂

"nuclear" doesn't immediately mean "radioactive stuff" or anything

[next ivy]

it is though, in the commoners language

[normal orbit]

no, its just most commonly associated with nuclear power

[reef basin]

I mean yeah, but I'm explaining it in context of nuclear pasta

[next ivy]

^ what i said

[normal orbit]

that doesnt mean it doesnt have other meanings

[next ivy]

its game design

[reef basin]

and why it has "nuclear" in name, while not being radioactive

[normal orbit]

nuclear pasta is an actual scientific term

not game design

cause of the extreme environment inside the core of neutron stars, the neutrons organize themselves into small cylinders, called the gnocchi phase. then long cylinders called spaghetti phase and then into sheets called lasagna phase. hence the term Nuclear Pasta came to be

probably by some scientists hungry at the time, but yes. its an official term you can find

nuclear can also mean the radius of the core of an atom

and i think, the nucleus of a cell in biology

[reef basin]

or nucleum the board game

[tall lantern]

or a nuclear family

[normal orbit]

this one being the reason we call it nuclear power. cause we're splitting (and maybe in 50 years, fusing) atoms

[tall lantern]

fusion reactors in-game when

[sterile blade]

!modding

[normal orbit]

fusion in a dlc would be neato, the piping to make deuterium and tritium would make players cry

[sour cargo]

"maybe in 50 years" 🤣
you mean the same 50 years ETA for the past 50 years? 🤣

[normal orbit]

well they've gone "we have fusion in 10 years and then 10 years later "we'll have fusion in 10 years" ... repeat, i just consolidated it some

[unkempt blade]

gotta keep that grant money flowing!

[normal orbit]

they've made progrss tho, keeping a reactor on for 22 minutes

[weak bloom]

I gotta say giving you nuclear power in one milestone and the ability to process the waste in a different one is a diabolical trap and I love it

[reef basin]

processing waste is completely optional tho

[weak bloom]

I mean I guess you could send it off to an exclusion zone warehouse but that's not a sustainable option

[autumn path]

could throw it off the map in trucks like some people do, it won't kill your game anymore

[tall lantern]

not indefinitely, but you can build a big enough storage to make it not a realistic issue

for my plutonium waste I built like 7000 hours worth of storage to be safe

[rigid surge]

unless your making 2500 a minute like me 😄

[tall lantern]

5 stacks a minute, so 10.8 minutes per doublecrate, 133.33... crates/day. Even that you could build enough for

[normal orbit]

well you aint make 2500 plutonium waste :p

[reef basin]

it's sustainable for enough time to play the game

[normal orbit]

but 2520 uranium waste

[reef basin]

they do not despawn tho

[normal orbit]

they do if you're a monster and give it to lizard doggos and kill them

[reef basin]

they = trucks

[brave hearth]

fun fact the constructer animation is of it making cast screws

[normal orbit]

its just making some box, which bugs out and disappears atm

[brave hearth]

Is the pioneer FORK LIFT CERTIFIED?

[lime yacht]

anyone got some nice designs for belts that are 'embedded' in the floor? I'm looking for some inspiration to run my belts through the factory in a way that i can still walk around freely, but that the belts are not 'overhead'

[brave hearth]

WE NEED TO KNOW

[ornate saffron]

This pioneer is IRL

BUT I think it hardly matters on a moon likely outside and jurisdiction

[normal orbit]

obviously not, its why theres no forklifts on massage

[lime yacht]

I guess pioneers are certified to operate any device they can build

so until there are buildable forklifts, no certification there 😛

[weak bloom]

If you make your factory floor from 2m foundations and replace some with 1m dropped down a bit, you should be able to just run the belt on the lower strip

[brave hearth]

this ficist cart tm is simply the ficist forklift tm with no fork

tm because idk how to do trade mark

[normal orbit]

it has no fork nor lift tho :p

[tall lantern]

no fork, no lift, no certified

[brave hearth]

I JUST SAID ITS A FORKLIFT WITH NO FORK

[lime yacht]

then its just a lift... but thats a building element, not a vehicle 😛

although its also in the 'transport' section

[ornate saffron]

it can have lift with jump pads 😛

[brave hearth]

nobolicks should blow up trains

i want to recreate end of the line sfm derail scene in satisfactory

[tardy turret]

how to i sh between different modes while dismatling

im litreally stuck

[normal orbit]

R

[tardy turret]

thank you lmao

[last bluff]

That's why I make sure every alt recipe also uses 10 screws including cast screws

NOO why did Discord not scroll again

[ornate saffron]

i have issues with discord autoscroll.

Lack of doing so. Doing it when i dont want it to

[last bluff]

Apart from that being bugged, right now it showed as the most recent message, not with that empty void it usually does

[ornate saffron]

well, on mobile when i see that someone has @me since i last looked i want to see that. When i click the notification it often brings me to the most recent comment in the channel not to where i was @

But even more frustrating is when it does try to show me the msg it takes me half way to it

[last bluff]

Discord has never been good

Somehow Discord right now is in the best state it's been in

I love complaining but oh boy would that go on for hours if we did

[ornate saffron]

as a whole discord is good, but there is many issues like any program.

You are correct complaining could last forever

[last bluff]

Hell nah could I complain about any other program as much, with exception of Microsoft products

Though the two feel similar in quality

[ornate saffron]

good ol' Sloppysoft

[last bluff]

sloppyslop

[ornate saffron]

The last windows update introduced a Memory leak. So i gotta reset my desktop every day when i get home

[weak bloom]

We recently switched from teams to slack at work and I couldn't be happier

[ornate saffron]

we are Teams at work, by teams i mean everyone but me

[weak bloom]

There are people who actually want teams back.....I can't understand it

[ornate saffron]

people resist change even if its for the better

look at Old School Runescape lol

[last bluff]

... compared to hunts and other micro transactions?

[ornate saffron]

I mean people resisting Change.

[last bluff]

Not sure if OSR is the best example there

[ornate saffron]

meanwhile here we are like WE WANT MORE CHANGES TO OUR GAME

GIMMI

[last bluff]

I am pro- people who embrace change like that if it is for the better

[ornate saffron]

RAIN SOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN

hopefully in time for fall

[last bluff]

Rainworld

[ornate saffron]

find fred astir and Debbie reynolds to dance with

[last bluff]

What if they delayed golf because they first need to figure out what the golfball should be made of?

[ornate saffron]

lol

a rock was always good enough for me

[last bluff]

Rock and stick?

I have nothing to add to that because that's amazing

[solemn vapor]

Yo I’m new and still on biofuel, is it a good idea to connect all the generators in my mini biofuel processing plant into one power line that powers all my machines

[normal orbit]

Yes

[last bluff]

Yes for ease

[solemn vapor]

Ok thanks

Also is there anything important I should know before I switch to coal or is it like the same thing as bio but just with drills instead of biofuel constructors

[normal orbit]

you'll need sippy too for coal

[ornate saffron]

with load balancing and mk2 belts you can feed 15 bioburners in one system

[solemn vapor]

What’s load balancing?

[ornate saffron]

uhhh..... dont worry about that yet if your about to get coal lol

[solemn vapor]

So many big words with this game lol

I’ve watched a few videos of the old dude on YouTube who plays this game idk if anyone knows who I’m talking about

He has the “giga-factory” I learned about manifolds from his videos

[ornate saffron]

generally speaking we suggest new folks to avoid mega factory builds and just buiild where the resources are.

large forward thinking factories are a good way to get overwhelmed.

[tall lantern]

with load balancing and mk2 belts you can feed 15 bioburners in one system
load balancing shouldn't have any impact here, all that matters is input vs output

[normal orbit]

just a diffrence on start up time

load balancing makes em all power on about same time. manifolding make em power on one by one. both work the same in the end

[ornate saffron]

unless you are limited on resources then load balancing can ensure each machine is getting the fuel when its needed.

BUT in this case i should have not brought up load balancing at all as it doesnt matter. they are going to be using coal soo n

[normal orbit]

if you're limited on resources you build what you have resources for. makes no diffrent which feed method you use

[solemn vapor]

Yeah nah I was thinking of staying away from mega factories or really anything where I have to heavily manage space bc besides a few create mod farms this is my first factory game

[ornate saffron]

in a manifold every machine beyond the first is getting less resources until the previous one has a full stack. with load balancing they all recieve the resource equally.

so when you are down to your last 50 (or stack size) of said resource its not just sitting in the first machine as the other machine go idle

[normal orbit]

except as the last machines goes idle, it gets fed while being off, so it will build up enough of a buffer to stay on 100%

[ornate saffron]

Have fun and we are happy to help. Its also a sandbox game with many solutions to the same problem. As you can see above many of us have diffrent ways to approach a problem.

the key is to have fun and find enjoyment

[solemn vapor]

Ok, thanks

[unkempt blade]

just make sure you're having ficsit sanctioned fun by using lots of factory carts

[sick lion]

Do you guys know satisfactory?

[tall lantern]

no

[normal orbit]

no never heard of it

[unkempt blade]

I think I might have heard of it from a friend

[little heart]

no

[unkempt blade]

satisfactory goes to another school in canada though, that's why it's never here

[sick lion]

You should try it

[unkempt blade]

I heard it doesn't have mk2 factory carts yet so I should just wait until it's more perfect

[ornate saffron]

to many calories anyways

[unkempt blade]

Why though? Is there a good reason to try it?

[sick lion]

Makes your brain braining

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but I heard world of warcraft has more automation than satisfactory. Is that true?

[weak bloom]

Not anymore they nuked DBM :^)

[normal orbit]

what if brain no brain

brain no brain maths

[ornate saffron]

smooth brain, simple brain, happy brain

Play checkers

[empty crag]

Yo anyone have any idea if infinite world generation/ random world generation is coming to satisfactory?

[viscid rune]

If I remember correctly, no.

[real shale]

it wouldnt really work that well with satisfactory anyway since resource nodes arent depletable but, future maps arent off the table iirc

[white dawn]

Definitely not

[real pecan]

Do you guys think StarRupture is a threat to Satisfactory?

[white dawn]

What we might be getting in v1.2 is a game mode which randomizes resource nodes, at least

[empty crag]

Gotcha

[leaden turret]

May 27th, 2025
Q&A: Randomly generated Map?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTxi2Xi1B9Y

no

[real shale]

no, it takes the approach differently

if anything its more a threat to factorio than satisfactory

[white dawn]

No, there's plenty of room in the market for various takes on "automation game"

[leaden turret]

February 24th, 2026
Q&A: Is CSS satisfied with the Console sales numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKn9f4Itqt4&t=3063

We had a certain target.

A vague target for you guys.

that we wanted to reach within two years of consoles releasing.

That's already been smashed, so cool.

[normal orbit]

not even a little bit, they not in same genre

[unkempt blade]

the end of an era

[elfin smelt]

automation games pool is kinda dry, It won't hurt having more

like we cant compete it with like, survivors (vampire survivors), rogue likes, metroidvanias

[real pecan]

Didn't StarRupture steal many Satisfactory players? Or is it the other way around?

[normal orbit]

steal?

[real shale]

it would steal factorio players quicker

[white dawn]

Honestly for crunchier factory automation games, if you also stipulate that you want games that aren't in Early Access, it's a relatively empty field

[normal orbit]

you know people can play both, cuz they diffrent types of games

[real shale]

reminder that satisfactory is one of the calmer automation games out there

[white dawn]

Though Shapez 2 comes out of EA in April! :D Looking forward to that one

[real shale]

starrupture is more high stakes like factorio is

[normal orbit]

starrupture is more tower defense with automation added

[real shale]

which is exactly what factorio is too lmao

[real pecan]

I see

Why are they not monetizing Satisfactory?

[normal orbit]

star rupture also lack the main appeal satisfactory has. decorative aspect

[real shale]

they are? they make money from game sales? im not sure what you mean here

[leaden turret]

Steam DB Satisfactory

15,102
players right now
21,719
24-hour peak
186,158
all-time peak 1.5 years ago

Steam DB Star Rupture

2,991
players right now
4,598
24-hour peak
42,864
all-time peak 2 months ago

[ornate saffron]

the Hand crafted and designed map is a feature of the game and is what makes it so good. So i wouldn't hold your breathe for procedural generation. Random nodes has been floated as a possibility and many hope for it in 1.2 but i dont think it will come with 1.2

[weak bloom]

Live service monetization has cooked the industry, not every game needs to be monetized like that and in fact most games shouldn't be.

[white dawn]

But regardless of how closely a game might target roughly the same demographic, there's still plenty of room out there for more games in the genre. It's not either/or; a Factorio player might get burnt out on Factorio for awhile and go play something else, but it doesn't mean they stopped liking Factorio and will never go back to it, etc.

[weak bloom]

Stop expecting or wanting games to be monetized like that, it's not even needed for most studios to break even lmao

[real pecan]

like paid dlcs etc

@weak bloom im just thinking that some players migth want to spend more, then let them to help the studios

[normal orbit]

dlc rumored to be in the works

[real shale]

that hasnt been off the table, it has been talked about

[white dawn]

Games "competing" for each other in the same genre is a lot more fraught when it's explicitly multiplayer focused like "live service" or MMO type things. Essentially singleplayer stuff like these can happily coexist

[leaden turret]

February 24th, 2026
Q&A: Can we expect a DLC in the future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oiCFr8dEAo

Can't speak on what shape it will be, but we have something confirmed for the future, content-wise, that is substantially bigger than a one-point number update.

[real shale]

Truthfully coffeestain is one of the few companies i would gladly give money for dlc for, i trust them to do a good job

Like what other company would go out of their way to make a "heavy announcement" and then drop a bomb shell of "oh we are dropping our merch prices"

[normal orbit]

imagine paying once for a game, no requirement to be always online and you can enjoy it anytime you like. Its kinda sad how thats a novel concept in this day and age

[ornate saffron]

Im a fan of Bringing back old School expansions that add the same amount of content to the game as the base or more. I would pay $50 for another hand crafted map

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> how's the legally-distinct creature-in-your-pocket capturing mechanic coming? 😛

[glad drum]

you can check out lizarddoggo.com

[tall lantern]

gotta catch 'em all to use as golf balls

[leaden turret]

I remember back in the day when you'd pay once and be s.o.l. if the game had bugs, no patches

[white dawn]

You've gotta encase 'em all in a geometric solid!!

[weak bloom]

Gonna be honest I don't think this is a good enough justification for adding mtx to a game when most games need it. If you really want to give the studio more money I'm sure you can find ways, but like for 99.99% of consumers, the purchase is the way they do that.

Opening the door to mtx is never a good thing imo. Do expansions, sure. But man I really just miss the days when games were a purchase

[unkempt blade]

you just might not know it hearing people stress about recipes and stuff around here lol

[leaden turret]

d20

[real shale]

lmao its better than someone bursting in here like "MY FACTORY IS BEING INVADED AND IM LOSING EVERYTHING PLZ HELP"

[weak bloom]

Right....it's sad

[real pecan]

For sure, but games also were't 500 played hours before for $29

[weak bloom]

They absolutely were lmao

[real pecan]

Games these days are supported for many years

[leaden turret]

looks at Oblivion

looks at tetris

[weak bloom]

I have over a thousand hours in the original Xenoblade X and plenty of other rpgs are similar

[real pecan]

Well oblivion literally has new games in the series

[normal orbit]

i have 1500 hours between x-com and x-com2 :)

[unkempt blade]

the amount of people I know who had to play skyrim like 70% of the way through 50 times with different mods each time is way too high

[real pecan]

Ok games from 90's are maybe not the best examples

[ornate saffron]

i got simuilar playtime in x-com apocolypse

[real pecan]

I'm sure people play lots of chess that is free too, but the development of those games didn't continue in the same way as say Satisfactory

[leaden turret]

back in the day I'd just finished playing a neverwinter nights 2 expansion & had the choice between spending £15 on the next expansion or buying oblivion.

oblivion had way bigger value for money

[real shale]

oblivion? 90s?

[weak bloom]

There are TONS of one-and-done games that I've put years of time into. Games do not have to be "supported" for years to be played for years

This is exactly the kind of twisting of expectations that live service has done to the industry

[glad drum]

I wouldn't be totally opposed to cheap cosmetics as mtx in Satisfactory - - - outfits for Pioneer, build gun bauble things, a custom toilet. Overall, I'm glad they haven't done it though.

[leaden turret]

those are free already tho

[normal orbit]

male pioneer model for €500 :)

[glad drum]

I mean more of them

[real pecan]

Well live service is literally why you get so many updates no? 🙂

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> Caterium toilet skin in 1.2?

[glad drum]

I'd pay 0.99$ for that

[white dawn]

Should just let us apply Customizer settings in general!

[real shale]

and coffee stain is the kind of studio that would give you it...for free

[leaden turret]

the material is already in the game, you'd be paying 99 cents for something that someone could build while a fresh pot of coffee brews

[weak bloom]

My point is that you don't NEED a game to constantly be updated....
It's the regular patch cycle expectation for everything that I have a problem with.

Why not have a one-time purchase and then maybe a big expansion a couple years later that you also buy? That was the model for decades before live service took over everything and now we expect nonstop development......

[real pecan]

Sure, so you mean you want less updates?

[ornate saffron]

The only time that i have immediately blocked someone here ( that wasnt scammers) was when someone entered chat and said "Is there a way not to play as a fat bitch"

lol

[real shale]

sometimes less is more

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> Lizard Doggo upholstery option for Explorer seat

[real pecan]

Sure sometimes it is, but would you?

[real shale]

Yeah, I got plenty to do in this game, I am okay with it

[unkempt blade]

yeah, I want more complete games at-release and less of a treadmill of releases/seasons/etc

[white dawn]

Yeah, there is a danger to continual updates, honestly. You run the risk of accidentally alienating the older playerbase. There's folks who didn't like a bunch of the changes that arrived with v1.0, for instance

[weak bloom]

If fewer updates means they can take more time with a meaningful update and not have to insert mtx to fund the development in the meantime? ABSOLUTELY.
that's the biggest problem with live service. It inherently pushes the mtx model because they need to fund continual development.

[white dawn]

(Though of course coming-out-of-Early-Access is a bit different than "constant updates," don't take that as a complaint. :)

[leaden turret]

February 24th, 2026
Q&A: Will the Patch Notes video show everything in 1.2? (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuheeiYlki4&t=294

Jason
Genuinely, what was that?

Mikael
That was Jason times four, I believe.

Jason
Yeah, guys, this is the new male character model.

Marv confirmed it.

You've been asking for it.

already teased/leaked

-# just kidding

[tall lantern]

I wonder if the CMs ever get annoyed at how much you ping them with random nonsense 😅
I guess at least they have Do Not Disturb mode

[normal orbit]

you dont have to play the game 24/7, you can play for a bit, take a break, come back at a new update, play some more, etc. since its not live service you never fall behind

[real shale]

oh no jason doesnt, hes hearing all these pings lmao

[unkempt blade]

it's a monetized beta but some studios use it more honestly than others do

[tall lantern]

oh god, my condolences to his discord

[leaden turret]

oh I have a comeback for that, buuuuuut it'd violate the #rules to dunk on someone so hard

[real shale]

I imagine jason in a meeting right now and seeing a pop-up on his laptop about caterium toilet skins

[white dawn]

"My my, looks like some Community needs... managing."

[leaden turret]

my shenanigans get featured in their youtube videos, so they used to it.

what better way to promote good work-life balance than to encourage people to turn off their phones when they take a break?

[unkempt blade]

Knowing how to set discord notification settings has to be a core CM skill right? 😆

[real shale]

Its part of the job requirements "Must be proficient in discord"

[leaden turret]

I'm fairly confident that was legit in the job ad @obsidian zodiac applied for

[real shale]

No way

I was joking, theres no way

[white dawn]

It's an entirely reasonable requirement for a job like that, honestly

One of your primary company-to-customer interfaces is Discord; you'll want someone who's proficient in existing in that space

(not like Discord's a difficult skill to develop or whatever, but it's entirely reasonable to have on a requirements list for the job)

[leaden turret]

||jaded enough to not be shocked at community shenanigans||

[atomic venture]

hllo

[leaden turret]

normie CM lookin at discord: 🫨
CSS CM lookin at discord: 🤨

[atomic venture]

i fuckin hate twitter

im gonna talk here instead

[glad drum]

I think you mean x

[leaden turret]

why you still there?

[normal orbit]

it will forever be twitter

[glad drum]

i like to call it "ex-twitter" haha get it? X-Twitter

[leaden turret]

if the transphobic douchenozzle doesn't wanna respect people's name changes, don't see why we should respect his renaming a business

[leaden turret]

according to google, X is pronounced "sh" in chinese, so post-rename it'd be "shitter"

[normal orbit]

sounds fitting

[unkempt blade]

yeah but I heard it's the everything app

[unkempt blade]

he also promised my cyberwagon would function as a boat for short periods of time and yet here I am at the bottom of the ocean offshore from my plastic factory 🙁

[leaden turret]

the titanic is a boat

[unkempt blade]

at least the cyberwagon hasn't imploded yet like the last boat to visit the titanic

[atomic venture]

funny

[leaden turret]

bit difficult for it to implode if the panels are just glued on

[atomic venture]

whats like

a cool machine yall have designed before

[near mural]

mcdonalds all day breakfast

[ornate saffron]

Cool factory or facility?

[atomic venture]

any

my school has lunch at 3rd period they only serve a breakfast menu

[near mural]

just went and picked up some for me and my dad and sister and it was like 20$ for all of us with multiple online deals the prices are absurd

[atomic venture]

i get my lunch at the grocery store salad bar

[ornate saffron]

I am really proud of my crocodile train hub

#design-and-architecture message

[near mural]

i made a 6 smelter stack blueprint with a ton of steel frames in it looked really cool but was pretty large for what it was so i dont use it

[atomic venture]

cool

i should build stff

[near mural]

whats such a cute idea i love it

[atomic venture]

i recently got mk3 belt

[unkempt blade]

You're going to get the waffles right? Those are clearly the best option

[atomic venture]

i’m not trying eating breakfast🙃

[near mural]

i can very easily hand feed manufacturers to get the acus and modular engines i need for phase 3 but im a bit intimidated by phase 4 and dk if im ready

[unkempt blade]

It's more of a brunch really

[ornate saffron]

No need to rush. I feel modular engines doesnt really teach you anything to prepare you for phase four.

[atomic venture]

how am i gonna get to phase 2

what?

[ornate saffron]

By feeding phase parts into the space elevator

[wooden sedge]

make the items the space elevator needs 👍

[normal orbit]

make 50 smart plates, and gently caress em into the space elevator, and fire em off into space

[wooden sedge]

not into space, into the skybase society

[normal orbit]

ficsit better makeit better

[weak bloom]

Generally speaking is rubber or plastic used more?

[next ivy]

at the start definetly plastic
later, dunno

[ornate saffron]

Depends on the recipes you choose down the line.

[near mural]

ive completed all my current goals and they felt like alot of work and pretty monumental all for just 5 computers a minute and 6 (slooped) hmfs a minute the idea of making anymore than i already have seems like a huge feat this has me thinking im not using blueprints enough

[ornate saffron]

Im about to finish phase 3 and im using none of either

[atomic venture]

greenie..?

[ornate saffron]

Blueprints are optional if you feel like you want to manually place less use the blueprinter. I like it for some things

[wooden sedge]

any alternate recepies that i would REALLY need?

[atomic venture]

iron to nails

[weak bloom]

Stitched plates for sure, ditch screws asap

[ornate saffron]

All recipes are just tools. You pick the one that fits your resources and goals.

There is some ppl prefer but that is just preferences

For example many never want to manage screws so the pick the recipes that allow then to not use them at all

[near mural]

i manually placed everything in my large factory putting basic phase 1 and 2 parts into storage and mostly manually placed everything for my computers and hmfs and it took SO long to figure it all out i feel like there MUST be a way to cut down on the time and labor but with every factory making something else and needing diffrent specic machines in diffrent places i feel like blueprints wont be much help

[weak bloom]

Stitched plates and iron wire let you produce reinforced iron plate purely from iron

^but also screw screws lol

[white dawn]

Alt recipes are just there to give you options while building. As you've seen with the past few responses, some folks definitely acquire opinions about which ones they like a lot (and those opinions may have wide community consensus), but there's no real bad or good. They all have upsides and downsides -- trading one resource for another, or complexity for resource usage, etc.

My own advice is: keep finding hard drives and doing research. There's more drives than you can even use, so you'll get all alt recipes eventually anyway. :)

[near mural]

tbh manually building factories is definitly fun but when i look at a turbo motor setup the idea of doing all that manually scares me

[weak bloom]

I think there's only some recipe chains that are like definitively better than others. Like the 1800 plastic rubber recipe with diluted fuel and both recycled recipes. That's just straight up definitively better than the non alternate recipes.

But most of the other alts have some tradeoffs in numbers of materials and types of materials required

[ornate saffron]

While looking at a machine you can press ctrl+c to copy setting and ctrl+v to paste.

You can place one machine set it up and look at then middle mouse click (scroll wheel click) to copy the building and settings to place more

[white dawn]

That one's got the disadvantage of, IMO, being the most complex production chain in the game. Nothing else requires either smart splitters or really careful division of machines via clocking, or has the same kind of feedback loop

Your first recycled-loop petrochem setup is a bit of a mindfuck

[weak bloom]

That's valid

[white dawn]

And there's so much oil on the map that most people really don't need that level of oil-efficiency.

(I mean don't get me wrong; I use the recycled loop basically every time. :D But it does have downsides. :)

[near mural]

you have saved me with this thank you 🙏
I knew abt the middle mouse click but the copy and pasting the recipies cuts the imo most tedious part of selecting and over or under clock hundreds of machines

[white dawn]

phwoar

[near mural]

i wish i knew this sooner but im glad i do now 😭

[ornate saffron]

Shortcuts help.

[surreal ingot]

@elder skiff
#screenshots message
Pipe flow limitations

[near mural]

theres sm hotkeys and shortcuts in this game i feel like theres always a easier way to do smth that i just dont know yet

[weak bloom]

Am I crazy for wanting the final stage of 37.778 refineries to actually be 40 refineries so it can be a nicer grid and figure out wtf I need to clock them to to make it work? XD

[spare prism]

Hi

[weak bloom]

Like that way I can do blocks of 20, 10, 16, and 40 refineries for the full chain

[ornate saffron]

When satisfactory tools say 4.2 constructors i see it as 4 at 100% and one set at 20%

But it can be divided anyway you choose.

[white dawn]

Heh, I long ago resigned myself to the absence of "clean" whole numbers like that. No longer bothers me. :D

[weak bloom]

Yeah I usually just round up and down clock the last one

[near mural]

if its 50% or under i usually just overclock it and save on a little space here any there

[white dawn]

That's a not-uncommon desire for folks, though. :)

[ornate saffron]

You could place double the machines and underclock them all and save on a little power ( did this recently as im trying to avoid expanding my power facilities)

[spare prism]

Underclock your suppose to over clock

[white dawn]

Could go even further than that! I forget where exactly the break-even point is; at some point the increased machine count ends up overwhelming the power savings. :)

[ornate saffron]

You are supposed to have fun and use the tools given to reach your goals in the sandbox ^-^

[near mural]

maybe im just thinking on a small scale since im not far into the game but the idea of that sounds crazy to me when im placing setups just for a few hmfs/m the amount of machines seems absurd at times the idea of doubling them is crazy

[ornate saffron]

Its all a matter of context. How i play now is different then 200 hours ago. I'm sure it'll change again

[glad drum]

sure -everyone knows what it is either way anyway

[weak bloom]

The nice thing is that you can clock via output number. So for that final plastic output for example. I need it to be 1800 plastic out of 40 refineries. 4 lines of 10, each line makes 450, so I just clock them all to 45 output. May have to do some extra weirdness depending on how I'm routing in the input fuel but yeah that's a problem I like solving

Dividing inputs and machines into neat groups adds a really fun problem rather than just plugging in the solver's overclock number and slapping a manifold on the thing

[glad drum]

huh? yeah twitter is x and x is twitter

[ornate saffron]

Breaking up manifolds into clusters is the way I have been doing things. I re a fly like it

[weak bloom]

And a lot of the time you HAVE to deal with the input splitting due to belt and pipe limitations. This system uses 1333.33 fuel. How many pipes am I going to divide that into? Do I just do 2x600+overflow? That's the easiest but I don't like that.
Instead I'll probably have one fuel pipe out of every 4 blenders and then figure out how many refineries I can properly fuel with that.
Which then cascades into "I can't just evenly down clock all the refineries, I need the refinery clocks to match the fuel input"

[near mural]

i think if i build my next factory with this in mind instead of clocking one machine at a very specific number ill have a much better time

[weak bloom]

Solving that kind of stuff has been the most fun part of this game so far for me

[glad drum]

My 8 refineries produce 55.715 iron ingots each 🙁

Absolutely. It's a great recipe to get the most bang out of your (iron) buck

Just uses more power and space

[ornate saffron]

Refinery fatigue is real though

[weak bloom]

I mean it works both ways too. If you need a line of machines to produce 500 items and each machine at 100% clock produces 60, you can also divide, round down, and downclock the last machine to the output amount rather than always going back to do the weird percentage math.
500/60=8.3333 so that's 8*60=480 so just clock the 9th to produce 20

[glad drum]

I do also really like the alloy alternate recipes, especially early on when you're bringing copper and iron in at the same time anyway

[glad drum]

I completely agree, I would loooove an alternate refinery factory design

[unkempt blade]

twice as large, with smokestacks that reach to the sky!

[near mural]

thats 240mw alone just for some extra iron atleast for me rn thatd be enough to make me not wanna use it in combination with the fact that you gotta find somewhere to put 8 refineries in your setup near water without it getting in the way

[ornate saffron]

Well the facility is just made needed two nodes of copper regardless of if i used the base copper ingot recipe or pure copper.

So I just used the base and "wasted" some ore. But I didn't need to use water extractors and the foot Print of ten smelters is small

And I use less power this way

[atomic venture]

twotter is twitter

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - just slap em on a cliff, ezpz.

Power concern makes sense if you're sick of worrying about it and don't wanna expand until later

[glad drum]

Yeah, I WANT to take up as much space as possible in my spaghetti wonderland, so it also helps there. Curved pipes look so good.

It's not like in a regular playthrough you're ever going to "run out" of ore right

[cunning glade]

Quick question how do I figure out how many nuclear reactors I need

For each type of rod or do they all burn the same

[ornate saffron]

After seven clears every run is a challenge run. Im trying to avoid expanding my power facilities until nuclear.

[unkempt blade]

different rods burn at different rates so you'd figure out a number of reactors the sum can support

[cunning glade]

Do you happen too know each ones rate

[unkempt blade]

I do not but you could find it on the wiki and maybe in the codex

[normal orbit]

uranium 0.2/min, plutonium 0.1/min ficsonium 1.0/min

[bitter kiln]

Also a quick question i build my nucleare powerplant with 250% Reactors they need 600 water per minute so i connected 1 full mk2 pipe with them but they run out of water every once in a while stop for a few second and then restart do i need to put a fluid buffer for every pipe or is there another solution

[normal orbit]

uranium makes x50 waste, plutonium x10 waste, and ficsonium 0 waste

[zealous urchin]

new idea

[glad drum]

I mean hell, I'm so inclined to take up as much space as possible with ridiculous designs that I'm going to put a splitter on each output of my 8 refineries and have them wind around and merge together just to build some iron plates. Eventually that'll backup and will only startup when I need more iron plates, and the rest of the iron will be used for... idk something, maybe just to cart around my area for fun

[next ivy]

remove 1% from the overclock :3

[zealous urchin]

i want automated litter box for lizard dogos

[unkempt blade]

agreed, this is why I underclock everything to 20%

[normal orbit]

they need so much water, you need a somewhat large pipe volume to keep em fed. or slightly downclock em

like 240% instead of 250%

[glad drum]

I've at least put myself in the mind set to underclock and build more rather than overclock lmao I'm not deep enough to set all machines to 1% yet 😉

[cunning glade]

I need 250 fully overclocked

150k water I think

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you and your dream involving 250 pipes of water

[cunning glade]

That's not the part I'm worried about tbh

[normal orbit]

if you have 50.4 uranium fuel rods, then you could feed those into 120 nuclear gens at 210%

[cunning glade]

But ty

[weak bloom]

Your world is literally that windows XP screensaver

[ornate saffron]

Thats not a pipe dream. Its a pipe nightmare

[untold zealot]

Without spoiling myself, is there any rhyme or reason to what the different crashed pods require to unlock? I've had everything from "Oh just open it" to "Oh drag 100 power over here" and this one I'm standing in front of wants Solid Biofuel?

[weak bloom]

There's one that wants like a singularity cell

It's just random

(not literally random) but the requirements range the entire set of parts in the game

[untold zealot]

Fair 'nuff!

[normal orbit]

no, theres no rhyme nor reason, just increasing material costs

Spicy rock good cromch

[near mural]

i cant tell whats harder with trains understanding how blockers and signals work or making them look good 😭

[ornate saffron]

Feel free to open a thread in #1038092680493801533 and @me or dm me for train signal assistance.

[near mural]

i have what i belive is called a push pull train (locomotive on both sides going back and fourth) i tried adding blockers so i could have another train use the track its on as well but no matter what i tried theyd end up saying theres no exit signal

[ornate saffron]

Cromch like candied pecans

[ornate saffron]

Signals are directional and work poorly on a push pull train .

I suggest making a one direction loop

Or

A two track system where trains only move one way on each track.

Think of each track as half a road. You always drive one the same side. My system a forward moving train always uses the right side track from the engines perspective

[near mural]

if i make 2 tracks one going in each direction to make one train turn around would i just have to have it loop into the other one? if theyre right next to eachother that seems like itd be a bit difficult

[normal orbit]

yes, train would exit station onto opposing track, go to next station then exit onto the first track

[ornate saffron]

One second let me find a convo I had yesterday

[ornate saffron]

this is a great conversation about this. I linked you to a image but the coversation started before this.

#math-and-meta message

Depends how much you actually play satisfactory

Recently?

Then you havent missed much ^-^

[teal sentinel]

hey guys new here, what chat should i message on if i have some questions

[normal orbit]

#1038092680493801533

[teal sentinel]

can i ask here

are u guys good

[ornate saffron]

You can search your question there too to see if it had been already answered

[teal sentinel]

my question is im in phase two and im wondering what i should be trying to automate in phase two

[normal orbit]

power and steel

just look at the milestones, and see what the game wants you to do

[teal sentinel]

ive got 8 coal generators all working to maxiumum efficiency

power is good for now

should i be automating the basic like screws, plates and rods

[ornate saffron]

Everything

The core to the game is automation.

Layouts and logistics are the challenges

[ornate saffron]

I suggest new players automate as needed.

Set a goal and automate to achieve it. You need smart plates choose how many a minute then automate to reach the goal.

[teal sentinel]

what lines would you reccomend

[ornate saffron]

Other then screws and phase parts you need everything in phase 1 and 2 for personal use.

A single stack of screws for personal use will last you the game often

[teal sentinel]

im in a good spot plenty of iron nodes what lines would you guys do

[reef basin]

You should automate anything you need

[tall lantern]

as in, which items to automate? a) whatever you need, which will likely be b) everything [except probably screws]

[reef basin]

Make what I need instead of asking randoms

[teal sentinel]

thats the thing

idk what i want

or need

[next ivy]

then decide

[ornate saffron]

Are you making your phase parts?

[reef basin]

Then look at milestones what items you need to unlock, or what buildings you want to build

[next ivy]

literally everything you unlock will help you eventually

[teal sentinel]

lifes shit

[next ivy]

good

means you spend more time expanding the factory

[teal sentinel]

u are weird arent u

join the club im a dirty freak

trust me im dirty

im a swamp

[ornate saffron]

In game there is a swamp to the fat east you and @unborn gyro should go live there

[teal sentinel]

no im a swamp

i dont wash

im depressed

[ornate saffron]

Hi depressed I'm Beefalo 🙃

[real shale]

no you arent

[near mural]

is there mk6 belts and if so how long of a gap is there between mk5 and 6? im thinking of speedrunning the phase 3 parts to get the hoverpack and mk5 belts so i can really start building factories that im gonna wanna keep and not ugly temp ones

[ornate saffron]

You are welcome to join us in #off-topic-general for shenanigans

[ornate saffron]

About half the game

[next ivy]

is there any official stance on why the belt tiers are so inconsistent btw ?

[real shale]

inconsistent?

[near mural]

soooo if i do build stuff based off mk5 belts i wont wanna tear them down 20 hours later

[unkempt blade]

yeah but there's no real point using mk6 belts because factory carts have higher throughput

[near mural]

wait im not even halfway done??

[reef basin]

Wdym

[reef basin]

You won't, you keep it at mk5

[grim ermine]

The factory must expand

[near mural]

great to know ill lock in when i get them and try to make more permanent factories

[reef basin]

No reason to touch old factories

[unkempt blade]

you could just build as though you have mk6 belts already and turn on the remainder + upgrade belts when you actually unlock them 🤷‍♂️

[near mural]

my current factories for things like hmfs and computers dont really make enough for me to jsutify using them in another production line so i was gonna rebuild them once i got better miners but i suppose i can use them for depots then build my larger factories elsewhere

[unkempt blade]

like I don't have mk5 belts when I build my first aluminum build I just pretend I do and upgrade as soon as I have a stack of alclad sheets

[ornate saffron]

Phase 4 and 5 are really big.

You can rush the belts once you enter 5 if you wish

[near mural]

im bum rushing hoverpack i love jetpack but building things while wobbling around sucks 😭

[unkempt blade]

agreed, my early builds are reasonably clean in recent saves but I only get serious about builds once I have the hoverpack

[reef basin]

Well, have you heard of independency? 🙂

[unkempt blade]

hoverpack + usually having a good amount of awesome shop unlocks by then makes it much more enjoyable to build stuff

[near mural]

my hmf only makes 3 unslooped and computers are 5 if i wanna account for putting some into depots for building thatd only really allow me to make 1ish acu/m with them i believe which would be nice for me rn i suppose but later i figure that wouldnt be enough to justify sending a train all the way from grasslands to where ever i need it

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

Build things near nodes, don't connect factories to factories, don't rebuild old stuff 🙂

Simple and time-efficient way to play

[near mural]

i see what ym now thank you this is something ill keep in mind movingg foward

im only really just now understanding trains so it really feels like im being freed from being trapped in the grasslands

[ornate saffron]

Phase 4 really forces you into spreading out

[bleak valley]

The trains made me stay in my starting area even more lol I started bringing my old stuff to my spawn

[near mural]

im very excited to im so sick of this fucking grassland 😭

[bleak valley]

I gotta send my cursed aluminum train to #screenshots

[bleak valley]

I started in the rocky desert so I’ve had a nice place to lay down a factory

Grasslands is good for learning the basics but yeah I’d leave it pretty soon

[ornate saffron]

Who like gravity anyways

[near mural]

i wish i had i dont hate the grasslands but it just feels so boring compared to the rest of the world

since i have everything here going into storage and depots i can really expand out and not come back til i wanna use that huge crater for power

[bleak valley]

I didn’t save the picture I’ll show it off later

[ornate saffron]

The purple forest and blue crater to the south east is nice the swamp to the far east is.... a thing.

[real shale]

blue crater my beloved

[bleak valley]

It also has a larger number of impure nodes so the production is smaller than other areas

[real shale]

Im honestly inclined to put my space elevator here at this point because i seem to be making everything in the blue crater these days

as if placing 300 fuel generators in it wasnt enough

[near mural]

whats up with the swamp?

[bleak valley]

spider

[near mural]

it wasnt really a issue til i got to around oil and wanted to make larger production chains

[ornate saffron]

Its.... a fungal swamp. Full of fungus and spiders. It also has everything for babies first nuclear plant

[near mural]

soooo i should leave it til im ready for nuclear?

[ornate saffron]

You should explore and make decisions based on what you find fun and inspiring

[near mural]

the spiders kinda spooked me but i wasnt really scared of them til i got jumpscared by one so bad i turned on arachnophobia mode and havnt turned it off since 😭

[ornate saffron]

At least they attack everything not just the pioneer

[near mural]

yeah im loosley trying to plan a little far ahead like the reason i didnt do oil at blue crater is bcs i knew id wanna do a huge fuel plant there later anyways

[real shale]

150 nobelisks a minute sounds like a good number

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg gonna explode the entire map and some

[real shale]

oh its not stopping there

im automating nukes after this

[mortal ginkgo]

oh dear LORD HAVE MERCY

[ornate saffron]

Blue crater is perfect for nitro rocket fuel.

[real shale]

well, after i automate filters and iodine filters which surprise surprise, the blue crater happens to be the most convenient spot for me to manufacture them

[bleak valley]

I was fine until an absolutely massive one jumped at me while I was building my steel factory 😭😭 scared the fuck out of me

Straight to arachnophobia mode

[near mural]

yeah i saw someone build a huge fuel plant there and have been inspired ever since

[weak bloom]

Yeah that was me yesterday, I got the mod that straight removed spiders because I want achievements still and the cat replacement mode isn't better XD

[mortal ginkgo]

Cat replacement is worse for some kek

[real shale]

in#screenshots message fuel

[near mural]

bro i was totally fine with stingers until i went to get the sam in the grassy fields as i was parachuting down the huge stinger jumped at me and genuinly scared me more than resident evil 7 ever did

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg got fuel to support Satisfactory 2 release save

[weak bloom]

I was building a train over the red forest and saw what looked like a giant RADIOACTIVE spider and NOPE NOPE NOPE GIANT PILE OF NOPE

[near mural]

omg the radioactive ones are so annoying 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

I got better news for you, thats not even the largest variant

[bleak valley]

I’m bombing that stupid forest

[real shale]

this is the reason i am skipping both rocket and turbo fuel and going straight to nuclear

[near mural]

yo are you serious they get bigger?

are the radioactive ones bigger ive never been close to one

[mortal ginkgo]

3 variants, smol, large, alpha

stingers are not radioactive, they do poison cloud tho'

[weak bloom]

Like props to them for the spiders because they're properly fucking terrifying but like....nah man I can't take it

[near mural]

bro i had a poison one chase me back to my hub before i even had the rebar gun it was so scary 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

Do it like me. Overexposure. After going through half the map, my mind considered all spiders at least medium variant until I get TOO CLOSE to see them actually being smol kek

[deft drum]

I just disable creature aggression

[weak bloom]

Nah I have like crippling phobia for that stuff, it's turned off

[mortal ginkgo]

#satisfactory message

I think you might relate yourself to my experience 😄

[weak bloom]

Doesn't help for the spiders. They still skitter around and are super fast and make the noises even on passive

[mortal ginkgo]

not fitting your pfp kek

[near mural]

genuine nightmare

[ornate saffron]

I did this when my cat was sick and have yet to turn it back on lol

[bleak valley]

Next time I play I’m gonna spam radar towers around the map we gonna find everything

[mortal ginkgo]

2 stingers following me was indeed.. intense. And do you know what happened? The meme of rifle reloading 69 ammo instead of 20 happened and I was like "wow, you got me brother, lets do this!".

[quasi warren]

I just turned on arachnophobia mode.

Works for me just fine :D

[ornate saffron]

If you do it methodically you can use radar towers for triangulation

[bleak valley]

Meow meow meow

[quasi warren]

I mean. That mode gave me ptsd. When I hear meows now, I freeze and wait to see a cat png pop up out of nowhere

[bleak valley]

Yeah I figured out they have the same range as a medium range map marker so I’m measuring out the right places

[real shale]

splitters on the top of lifts can have the input in the middle right? cant seem to get my splitter to rotate properly

[weak bloom]

Sometimes you have to scroll a few extra ticks before it actually moves

But yes they can

[real shale]

yeah ive been scrolling for a bit, but it wont actually rotate to the middle

never had that before

[weak bloom]

The opening cannot be on the "belt side" of the lift

Rotate the lift potentially

[near mural]

using sloops making phase 3 project parts a breeze all i gotta do is yap here for 30 more minutes and loosely monitor my scuffed setup

[ornate saffron]

I try to avoid giving the electric companies more money then necessary.

Try exploring spiders are scarey but hard drives are worth it

[bleak valley]

Yeah exploring makes that time go quickly

And is very profitable

[acoustic bear]

early game exploring is great

fill your pockets with concrete and build ramps as needed

[near mural]

i did alot of exploring earlier in my run and got my hands on a ton of spheres sloops and drives but unfortunatley ive used and rescanned almost all of my drives </3

[bleak valley]

Handheld scanner and a jetpack

Helps a lot

[real shale]

blade runners too

[ornate saffron]

Zip lines !!!!

[real shale]

ziplining on powerlines my beloved

[acoustic bear]

this one as well. Exploring via power tower placement and zipline is extremely easy and better than a jetpack until like ionized fuel or rocket fuel

[magic void]

Do y'all even bother with auto connect when placing railway blueprints? Mine wont let me stretch the tracks out far at all.

[ornate saffron]

Autoconnect then nudge for max distance

Super effective for sky rails

[magic void]

So click once while its close then nudge away?

Or lock in place with H?

Figured it out thanks so much im building sky rails and this is even easier!

[ornate saffron]

H hold, line up so the connector indicators are all green.

Click once to connect then nudge away

Or

Click once to connect then Hit h to release hold and move where you want to place and it will stay connected the way you locked it

[near mural]

i think its finally time i take down my old phase 1 factory 😭

[ornate saffron]

Or leave it. Come back when you see the credits so you can compare how far you have evolved and grown

[fickle locust]

I never moved my space elevator so I saw the credits roll next to my mk 1 miners building wire and iron rods

[stuck barn]

I am getting a steam deck today. How is Satisfactory on the deck?

[near mural]

its a spaghetti mess i sloppily put tg lazily and ive reached around coal power before so i generally knew what i was doing i think a better representation would be my current factory making all my phase 2 resources that one i actually put alot of time and effort into making it efficient and clean and despite all that effort its honestly terrible but i only know that because of what making it taught me

[ornate saffron]

Im told well.

[spare prism]

how many tickets you need to buy all stuff in shop?

[stuck barn]

Do you know how it imports mods?

If at all

[ornate saffron]

On windows absolutely.

On the default os of the steam deck no clue

[fickle locust]

1,895 tickets, thank you wiki

[bleak valley]

That’s not as bad as I thought it would be

[stuck barn]

I figured. I started my current playthrough with a lot of mods, so I might need to start a dedicated SteamDeck run

[fickle locust]

But 1,671 of those tickets are for special award things, with 1,000 of those being the golden nut

[bleak valley]

I’ve bought everything but the statues

[fickle locust]

So if you just want to unlock 3/4 inverted skate ramps it's only like 200 tickets

[ornate saffron]

I only use skyui to help my eyes.

After 1000 I have much to do in vanilla still

[stuck barn]

Infinite nudge is a mod I can't live without

[ornate saffron]

Im sure once I incorporate mods like that I will feel the same way. So I am resisting

[stuck barn]

I regret it now, since I can't finish my run on the deck but oh well

[near mural]

end goal is golden nut but thats along way away current goal is phase 3 which im very close to

i know golden nut wont be the end for me tho ill probably end up just doing it again

[bleak valley]

I’m going for all steam achievements for my first save

[mystic wolf]

oh my gosh i did it, I'm finally to phase 4 after thons of manifolds

[bleak valley]

Then I’ll probably do modded or just different starting areas

[unkempt blade]

pretty much the only mod I remember trying that I actually wish would be vanilla is some form of building curves using foundations

[proven snow]

Don't think I've ever really done a manifold in my 500 hours

Should prob start to tho

[weak bloom]

At the very least I want the ability to nudge rotation while something is in held mode

[unkempt blade]

I just enjoy the gameplay around BPs a lot more than what a lot of the "QoL" building mods offer

[near mural]

i feel like i dont use bps nearly enough

[weak bloom]

Same, I don't think I'd enjoy the smart build mod or whatever

[fickle locust]

I detest that you can't see the top of a power tower while you're holding the hologram and then can't rotate it

[weak bloom]

YEAH so many examples of that

[unkempt blade]

you can definitely play the game without them but especially if you're doing repetive stuff or building a lot of things with decorations I think it's worth getting a feel for them

[bleak valley]

That’s crazy to me

[weak bloom]

It's not even like the keybinds overlap. Scroll just does nothing when in held mode and it could easily just rotate like it does normally lol

[bleak valley]

I rely on manifolds so much for my systems since I learned about them

[unkempt blade]

you'll feel the difference with BPs a lot more when you're building larger scale stuff later game

[spiral summit]

how come there are no fuel bonuses for vehicles but there are for drones/jetpacks

[worthy hatch]

Is there any way to decrease the server delay for items on belts?

[near mural]

ive hardly used them up until now but entering phase 4 esp wanting to make things prettier im def gonna need to use them ALOT more

[proven snow]

Yea just never thought of setting machines up like that until I saw people talking about them on here.

Always just placed all my machines facing one direction, going from simple smelting at the start to very complex elevator parts at the end

[weak bloom]

Yeah I only had like two super basic building layout bps up through phase 3 but at the start of phase 4 when planning what I wanted to do, I just sat down and made like fifteen more lmao

I still need to make more but like, each production building in multiples of 2 4 8 etc. helps so much

[ornate saffron]

I had to do it twice. As I came from early access and skipped the on boarding process

[weak bloom]

Slap down a block of machines, redo the belts as needed to group them correctly, done

[spare prism]

Are you fr

I’m only at 100

[ebon cobalt]

would there be a way to have custom warning messages (sort of like the fuse blown message) so i can know if specific things go down?

[fickle locust]

Again, 1,600+ of those are collectibles with no function in the game
So if you're just trying to get the organization tools that's only 200 tickets

[last bluff]

My preferred setup is always machines close together, usually it works out for most recipes. No manifold needed though a load balancer can be useful

(If that idea makes sense at all actually)

[ebon cobalt]

why versatile frameworks gotta be so painfull to make :<
i dont have anything making moduler frames at nearly enough throughput to satisfy that 1,000 needed :<

[bleak valley]

You only need 1000 total even if you make it at 2 per minute you’ll get there eventually

[spare prism]

Is true but I wanna build factory

[bleak valley]

I only had one machine going when I got enough for the elevator

[normal orbit]

need more than that

[spare prism]

I have to make 50k smart plates 🙂

[fickle locust]

Go hunt some animals and get the DNA capsules, you'll blast through the early tickets

[bleak valley]

Yeah but to start it’s fine

[spare prism]

Yea I did that too

[near mural]

youre gonna hate hmfs bro

[ebon cobalt]

that doesnt even sound that bad tbh

[unkempt blade]

if I had to guess, you're probably not using enough screws to make them

[fickle locust]

The entire game only requires 4,300 smart plates

[ornate saffron]

He is doing a challenge run

[spare prism]

Well modded

[ebon cobalt]

no its just that they take so damn long to craft
input isnt the issue
its space and how long they take

[spare prism]

I have space elevator parts times 1000

so 50x1000 =50,000

[unkempt blade]

in that case you're probably not using enough factory carts to move stuff around

[ornate saffron]

Again its self inflicted hence challenge run.

[ebon cobalt]

why would i be using factory carts??

[weak bloom]

hmf is the first "do you actually know what you're doing" check of the game imo lol
Tbh it still feels harder than stuff after like aluminum and whatnot. Cooling unit might be the next Big One though

[zenith pecan]

I'm only making 45 hmf, I'll probably open a second factory in another biome.

[weak bloom]

I'm only making 11.25 and I'm planning to build another factory soon

[unkempt blade]

to improve your versatile frame making experience

[spare prism]

Nah it was forced on to me

[ebon cobalt]

on the good side i just finished milestone 4 so now i have nothing to procrastinate with :D
really gotta upgrade my power cus i have 80mw spare

[bleak valley]

This server makes me realize I’m the “make just enough of each part to make the bare minimum of the next one” player

Everyone else is making huge amounts of things I have like 5 per minute of lol

[fickle locust]

Yeah you're kind of screwed on the tickets
Once you hit the next phase you'll be able to get there but it's going to be a slow slow grind with only phase 1 parts

[ornate saffron]

5/min of biosculptors is a lot

[bleak valley]

5/min modular engine at the start of phase 4

That’s slooped I think

[near mural]

honestly i hmfs were scary til it was time to make them i was going to make 10hmf/m but ended up cutting it to 3 bcs i dont need 10 rn and i was super high when i made my setup and was NOT trying to do allat but definitly couldve

[unkempt blade]

I only make 5 concrete/min but I don't build foundations so it works for me

[bleak valley]

I waited twenty minutes to finish phase 3

I’m making like 120 concrete per minute just because I have the nodes at my base

[ornate saffron]

@bleak valley who did the art of your avatar. At first glance I thought it was SPiNDLE

[bleak valley]

It is just being sinked and depot

[near mural]

hmfs is literally everything youve done in phase 2 except one factory mixing at the end

[bleak valley]

I don’t actually know my partner sent me this to match let me check the image

[spiral summit]

i just realised that those 2 holes in the grass plains are the perfect spot for a missile silo

[ornate saffron]

I nudged my elevator to the bottom of the big hole

[bleak valley]

There wasn’t any watermark but image searching led me to a Twitter user called “kaido_sakura”

[ornate saffron]

Ty ill look into it.

[glad drum]

This is ultimate chad behaviour - I also haven't even unlocked foundations... though I might need to because I think I need walls soon for a special project

[hexed ravine]

How come this server doesnt have voice channels?

[real shale]

#screenshots message

Okay, thats one part of the plan towards nukes completed

[glad drum]

I'm not 100% sure but I think I remember a long while ago they mentioned not wanting to moderate them

[hexed ravine]

oh I see

thats a little bit annoying

[weak bloom]

I made 11.75 because of the encased frame recipe and because it made the number of machines more even than the other options without weird clocking nonsense xD

[spiral summit]

ngl power storage should be made from batteries and not stators cause lowkey theyre useless now that drones dont need them no more

cause why the hell would i be transporting alumina solution

[weak bloom]

Make batteries at the aluminum plant and have a drone network sending batteries to your other drone ports

(or just use fuel but yah this is a way to make it work and you're probably doing similar with fuel too)

[untold zealot]

Before I start making my first attempt at adding a second floor to a location to keep it all a bit more compact, what's a good ballpark in terms of height so I don't run into future "Oh now this building clips through the ceiling" issues? Obviously I don't expect to fit in Coal generators there, but for most other production

[normal orbit]

old school battery recipe still exists

also theres better drone fuel than batteries :p

[spiral summit]

i saw it on my hard drive search which is why i thought of it

because it reminded me at how useless batteries are

which feels very wrong considering... theyre yk... batteries?

[weak bloom]

8 walls tall fits a refinery, and subdivides into 4, which fits all the other normal buildings

[untold zealot]

Very doable, thanks!

[ornate saffron]

8walls = 32 meters if that helps ^-^

[near mural]

yeah the numbers were horrendous

i just settled with 3 insteado of 2.65 whatever

is there a channel where i can post screen shots of things and talk

[bleak valley]

Math and meta might work

[white dawn]

#screenshots is for general "hey look at this cool screenshot" sharing. #1038092680493801533 is for general-purpose questions. #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta can be used too, if the question/discussion is appropriate for one of those channels

[zenith pecan]

#design-and-architecture

[ornate saffron]

Yup, #math-and-meta and #design-and-architecture pick what it closest relates too

[near mural]

thank you sometimes i just have screen shots of stupid shit i run into 😭

[white dawn]

Also: "weird clocking nonsense" is just "playing the game" after awhile. You'll get used to non-whole-numbers. They don't bite. Clocking is life, etc. :D

[ornate saffron]

Im at 126 hours this run. I still have modular engines to do before moving on.

I still need to decorate my ACU factory too

[near mural]

40 hours and literally just sent up phase 3 parts i was gonna make factories for acus and engines but i figured id save the decorated and better thought out factories and what not for after i have mk5 belts and the hoverpack

[ornate saffron]

I can't leave this as a building frame.

Ill likely not turn on the game until I decided how im going to decorate it.

#design-and-architecture message

[near mural]

it already looks pretty cool tbh especially compared to the concrete slabs ive used until now 😭

[ornate saffron]

I built it in sections the arches are part of the ore refinement complex. Im happy with that. When that was done I made the building for part processing. Thats what is in need of decor

[unkempt blade]

factory carts?

[weak bloom]

you will pry my nice round whole numbers from my COLD DEAD HANDS
I'll cave eventually it's just a matter of when

[unkempt blade]

then I'm stumped what could be missing 🙁

[near mural]

i can always just clock one machine to a specific number when needed but is there no other option?

[unkempt blade]

ahh so you need a bigger skate park then

see this is the problem with youtubing!

besides all the other stuff that wrong with it

[white dawn]

You don't have to clock your machines directly fwiw. If you don't mind machines occasionally going idle, just "round up" to the nearest whole unit of machine

The system will even out and be producing the same amount anyway

[near mural]

thats true it is a bit easier to deal with that tbh

[white dawn]

But yeah, if you want 100% machine uptime, in the end you're just gonna have to resign yourself to clocking stuff. By the time you get to Phase 4+5 parts the ratios are just too different

[unkempt blade]

ahh yeah that kind of puts a cap on how much epic you can squeeze in

[white dawn]

(You could still get to whole-numbers with sufficient investment in Least Common Denominator type thinking and scaling up production to suit, but you're likely gonna end up with factories that are way bigger than you want to build)

[unkempt blade]

that's time for the tutorial + a couple medium sized vanity projects maybe

[white dawn]

IMO it's no easier (or harder). If you've got a factory plan which says you need 3.6 assemblers, you've got that number sitting right in front of you.

I suppose I must acknowledge that it is technically more work to go in and set one to 60% than it is to Not Do That, but it's a trivial difference

[unkempt blade]

I heard those people don't call their mom on mother's day. You probably shouldn't be following their example

[white dawn]

But there are certainly those who don't bother with clocking at all. :)

[unkempt blade]

you should ambush her with a 4am call this year

[orchid zinc]

If i have two mk1 belts carrying 60 ore going into a merger, does it only matter that the belt from the merger onwards is mk2?

[near mural]

i mean in the sense of its easier to clock smth to 60% than 57.8999 or whatever for every single item youre making

[weak bloom]

This is precisely what I have been doing and it's starting to become A Problem lmfao

But I like thinking big and planning big so I'm still enjoying it

[white dawn]

Hah, yeah, you can only do it so long before things start to get infeasible. :D

But so long as you're having fun, that's the main thing. :)

[weak bloom]

Yeah now I've shifted to finding how much I can maximize out of the least common resource node I have reasonably available (eg produce as much as I can out of 1800 bauxite, 600 crude, etc.

I'm gonna build a metric overkill amount of plastic rubber and aluminum and then figure out how much I need to ship out for supercomputer, radio control unit, and cooling unit

Still haven't decided on how many of those 3 I want to produce yet....

The ratios of those get truly crazy

[near mural]

how do i tell satisfactory calculator that i dont have converters

[weak bloom]

Untick sam

[magic void]

Is there a way to manually flip switches on railways?

[near mural]

thank you

[ornate saffron]

Turn off the sam resource

[reef basin]

which one?

[near mural]

using satisfactory tools i got it done tho

[reef basin]

untick the converter?

[near mural]

i didnt realize you could do that with machines and resources tbh jst recipies

tbf ive been trying to avoid using it tm to get used to logistics in general since this is my first factory game

sftools seems much more user friendly is modeler more detailed?

[weak bloom]

Modeler lets you do things manually and tools is a solver

Different use cases, I use them both

[mossy fulcrum]

how the hell am I meant to @ that Egyptian hieroglyphics guy????

@languid jasper

[ebon marten]

use the username not the nickname

[mossy fulcrum]

basically the reason it's so low quality is cause the previous version of it that I made (for Minecraft create mod players) was on my old phones so I just downloaded the previous post I made rather than remaking it

[orchid zinc]

Is it fine to ask questions here btw or should i post a thread in #1038092680493801533?

[white dawn]

Questions in here are just fine, though if your question would benefit from inlined images, or you expect it might get in-depth, #1038092680493801533 can be better

[ornate saffron]

If its a simple binary question here is fine. If it complex or may need a complex answer #1038092680493801533

[orchid zinc]

Cool here goes one then 😄

I dont have smart splitters. Im planning a tractor route and there are going to be two load points: one with pure coal and one with pure iron. So initial plan was to have one route and pick up from both places in the same route, but without smart splitters i cant separate the two different materials once the route is complete. So what if i have two different routes and have the coal one supply fuel for the drop off station so that the noncoal one can refuel there?

[white dawn]

Yep, that's a very common thing to do really. Being able to use coal for vehicle fuel in the game is quite nice

When you've got two stations next to each other, btw, remember that it's far easier to make them "drive through" bays rather than having them in a line

'cause vehicles will naturally stop at any loading zone they happen to get close enough to

[ebon marten]

until you realise the trucks collide with eachother and send eachother flying if they arrive at the same time

[orchid zinc]

Theoretically if i have both routes take the exact same time and time them correctly, it should be fine? Or can the routes take varying time when they are automated?

[white dawn]

So like something like: ```
+---+ +---+
| | | |
| |====[] | |====[]
| | | |
| | | |
+---+ +---+
^ ^
| |
--------/---------------/

Vehicles coming in from the left (just as an example; obvs they wouldn't have to be coming from that direction), and then they "drive through" the separate bays

[white dawn]

I practically never see vehicle collisions, and when I do they've always self-corrected pretty quickly

[real shale]

#screenshots message okay, smokeless powder and nobelisks done, now i gotta automate fabric, gas filters and iodine infused filters next

[orchid zinc]

ah damn ascii 😄 thanks. Though i was planning on a single drop off station with the load ones being very far apart

[real shale]

and off to go make infused uranium cells i go

[white dawn]

ASCII Über Alles

[real shale]

one day i will bother to properly decorate this, but i think it looks pretty as is :D

[opaque minnow]

ASCII?

[normal orbit]

i like the use of german after using an acronym where the A is for american :p

[white dawn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_art etc

[ornate saffron]

You old

Honestly same.

[opaque minnow]

Me =>

[feral jay]

Haha I just realized you can disable specific machines with Tools

Nah I'm not old, I'm just not young anymore either

[near mural]

do i have to put railways on my blueprint so i can auto connect to see the distant per railway?

[feral jay]

I can still run and sleep on bare rock, I have few physical complaints

[ornate saffron]

Live fast, die young, and leave a good lookong corpse.

I'm to old now to die young

[teal cliff]

chronologically advanced

[feral jay]

lol true

[languid jasper]

its a meme bro, don't take it seriously 👍

[ornate saffron]

Tbf name checks out

[ornate saffron]

@graceful oriole trains do not care about the landscape if you can lay the track through a mountain it'll pass through.

[graceful oriole]

yes i noticed that already, just this one looked funny. i still normally build around obstacles ... just in case they add physics for trains

[ornate saffron]

I think they used to and it was taken away. I suspect it shall not return now that we are in full release

[graceful oriole]

trucks do have physics. and no idea if trains did in past, i play only since u8

[ornate saffron]

I played before they raised the water level. But I can't place when so I just say u7

[near mural]

spent a hour building tracks bcs i swear i took THE MOST inconvient path to get this bauxite over to my quarts 😭

[real shale]

Okay, time to make 50 filters of each kind a minute

[near mural]

then i decided to put the stations 100m in the air so getting the bauxite anywhere after is a pain in the ass too

[real shale]

And then I'll be good for the infused cells part :D

[graceful oriole]

i'm now building track from hightest point of map to my starter base 😄

[real shale]

Bauxite to quartz? What are you trying to make

[near mural]

trying to get a small aluminum factory running so i can get hoverpack and mk5 belts its becoming alot more trouble than its worth due to my 0 planning

[real shale]

Ohhhhhhh you need the silica

[near mural]

yeah

[real shale]

Highly recommend sloppy alumina and pure aluminium

[near mural]

those alt recipies?

[real shale]

Honest to god itd save you a lot of the trouble

Yeah, it's the combination that removes silica entirely from the aluminium process

[near mural]

r u srs

[real shale]

Yes

[near mural]

😭

[real shale]

This is why it helps to do research prior to committing to a plan :P

[near mural]

yeah i literally didnt plan at all i thought itd be a easy quick small factory

[unkempt blade]

Excellent truck station diagram. Just think of how many factory carts a double layer like that could handle!

[real shale]

If you have resource well extractors which I doubt you have at this stage there's an oil node in the red forest you can use for petroleum coke that you can further use to make electrode scrap

It's slightly more efficient than using the base scrap recipe

In terms of more scrap anyway

[weak bloom]

In fairness I also just put together a quick aluminum factory to get the milestones and start generating plates and casings without being optimal about it

The lake to the northwest of the crater lake has all the resources reasonably nearby

[near mural]

is there any convient place to do this ill make a proper aluminum setup later but rn i jst need a little bit but everything is SO far

[white dawn]

Yeah, my first aluminum plant is generally pretty quick+dirty

[real shale]

Having the realisation of "oh I need more aluminium stuff" was so annoying I made a mega factory in the red forest that saps all the bauxite and coal in the biome

[white dawn]

Just enough to get those sheets filling up while I go hard drive hunting. :)

[real shale]

Produces like 2000 casings/min pre MK3 miners

[weak bloom]

Yeah lake to northwest of crater lake. It's a bit to belt in the coal but it's got bauxite, copper, and quartz

[real shale]

I am NOT looking forward to expanding it to account for MK3 miners

[near mural]

thank you thats a much more convient location

[unkempt blade]

Look forward to it! Just think of how much fun you'll have

[real shale]

I am having more fun trying to automate nukes

[near mural]

i was trying to train my bauxite right over the quartz idk how i didnt notice that

[real shale]

So I can bomb this planet for all the fauna and flora it has

[round pollen]

i keep finding lizard doggos and ACCIDENTALLY HITTING THEM BECAUSE IDK WHAT THEY ARE FROM BEHIND

[white dawn]

Why expand? Just split the miner output and make a new factory. :) Can put it like literally right next to (or on top of) the existing factory, but making new is generally less work than trying to upgrade/expand

[real shale]

Because all of the bauxite in the red forest are concentrated into the same belt highway, and it'd make it more convenient in terms of getting the coke over rather than having to add more drone ports

[white dawn]

Still sounds like you could avoid the pain of upgrading by simply Not Doing That™. :)

[real shale]

Tbf I belted all the coal into a single highway and then realised "oh, coke is better" so there's like 6 belts full of coal just sitting there waiting to be used

[white dawn]

Don't upgrade the belt highway; just build the new stuff where it's needed, etc. :)

[weak bloom]

The nodes I circled in screenshots is enough to process 600 bauxite with sloppy alumina recipe and normal aluminum ingot recipe. Can adjust amounts for your recipes ofc

[reef basin]

then don't do that

[white dawn]

Anyway, indeed, if you're bent on centralization then upgrading is presumably one of the prices you must pay!

[real shale]

Might use them for diamond later

[near mural]

tyy i wont be using that much tbh not nearly making very tiny setup

[white dawn]

But know that you are kind of doing it to yourself. There's never a need to upgrade anything; you can always just split off the miner outputs and build new instead

[fickle wraith]

Can I unload and load items on a drone? and control how much of everything it picks up so its equal between 3 resources?

[weak bloom]

Well I'm gonna use a lot of plates for mk5 belts everywhere so i was fine making the first setup like this. Good practice for later too. But I will probably leave that factory just going into the depot for a long while

[near mural]

yeah i plan to let it build up while i build a bigger power plant probably

[real shale]

I will choose to do it anyway because it is easier for me, doesn't mean it's any less painful, besides I don't have to worry about it yet, 2000 casings/min is plenty for what I need right now

[stone scarab]

Guys mega spoilers for the new update but 1.1 will turn into 1.2 in the update 🤯

[white dawn]

Drones have an internal cargo capacity of 9 stacks; unless you're dealing with pretty low-throughput transfers, they're not great for "sushi" deliveries

You can't really control what they pick up, per se. They'll pick up stacks from the port's input area -- don't recall if they take from the "start" or the "end" of the avialable stacks

[fickle wraith]

so id need ultiple drone landing zones for each item?

[white dawn]

But if you do want to use sushi for drones, it's the same rule as using sushi with any other bulk-delivery system: make sure that you've got it built out such that the cargo bay on the ports is completely cleared out, and make sure you have sufficient buffering on the receiving side (ie: ISCs after each smart-splitter sort)

[white dawn]

Maybe? Depends on your situation. You can do sushi with drones.

[real shale]

You could try to do it in one using priority mergers, but it'll be tricky

[white dawn]

But if it's your first time trying to handle sushi deliveries in bulk, I'd maybe recommend just keeping it to one item per drone. Drone cargo size is awfully small

[proven snow]

It would certainly make things easier

Otherwise you'd have to be kinda careful about how much you're sending to the drone station, and have some smart splitters whereever it offloads

[real shale]

It's be a lot more complex looking than just using three drone ports

[fickle wraith]

true ill just do that

thanks

[white dawn]

Once you're used to it, sushi deliveries honestly aren't bad -- smart splitters, overflow, and ISC buffering is pretty trivial to set up once it's under your fingers. The key is making sure that there's never a point where the receiving port gets "backed up;" you've gotta be overflowing to sink and having buffers after the sorting so that one item can't "hold up" another

(Once the system's stabilized you should basically never see anything getting sunk, but it's nice to have the backup)

But yeah, with drones' limited cargo size, I wouldnt' recommend playing around with sushi for the first time with them

Trains or vehicles tend to be a lot more flexible for sushi

[mossy fulcrum]

oh yeah I know, I just wanted to explain myself

[white dawn]

That said, if you're talking like single-digit/min throughputs, drone sushi is entirely viable. :)

[near mural]

trains are gonna make me go insane

theyre so big and the tracks turns are so huge i cant figure out where to put them without putting a giant concrete slab in the sky blocking out the sun

[gloomy tusk]

#design-and-architecture forgot i cant embed anything

nevermind i guess i cant send it anywhere

[solemn vapor]

Is it a good idea to use tractors for my reinforced iron plate farm before I start on my coal plant?

[white dawn]

Definitely time-consuming if you want 'em to look good. You can definitely snake them through the geography, though: #screenshots message

[near mural]

i dont even wanna think abt how long smth like that would take

it looks so good tho

[gloomy tusk]

There are good blueprints for managing it in the satisfactory blueprints tab

i tried to send it but i cant send it in any channel

[white dawn]

You can honestly get Pretty Good™ results by just doing a "disconnected pillar" design

[near mural]

theres a blueprints tab?

[gloomy tusk]

website

[white dawn]

Have esentially just one pretty good-looking pillar blueprint with some rails attached, and auto-connect that around your map

(I'll also have variants which are on 1m ramps for doing inclines and such)

[near mural]

ill have to check this site out

[gloomy tusk]

#off-topic-media

i figured out how to do it

[white dawn]

A lot less work (in vanilla, anyway) than building foundations and such underneath, and the pillars are, for me, plenty Good Enough in terms of realism

[near mural]

ive heard people get irritated with the auto connect but i havnt had a chance to use it yet

[white dawn]

There's also some mods which can help out building nice curved foundations under your rails

[gloomy tusk]

want me to just dm you it or just tell you the name so you can find it?

[near mural]

if you tell me the name i can find it

[white dawn]

Heh, I actually still haven't played since v1.0, so I haven't built out any rail networks with the auto-connect. It honestly wasn't bad even without, with rails on the "pillar" blueprints

[gloomy tusk]

website called satisfactory blueprints

[near mural]

thank you 🙏

[gloomy tusk]

the one i am trying to show you is called double pillar tall

there is also medium and short for different heights

[near mural]

i feel like ive just found a chest full of gold

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots message

[gloomy tusk]

what phase are you up to?

[near mural]

i only just got into phase 4 earlier today

[gloomy tusk]

thats pretty good

[near mural]

some of these blueprints are insane

[gloomy tusk]

wait do you mean in phase 4 working on phase 5 or in phase 3 working on phase 4

[near mural]

in phase 3 working on phase 4

[gloomy tusk]

have you unlocked fuel power then?

[near mural]

yup

my fuel setup rn isnt great im gonna make a huge plant probably once i get a better fuel source which will hopefully be soon

[gloomy tusk]

skip turbofuel

some may disagree but in my opinion turbofuel is overrated and you should go straight to rocket fuel

[weak bloom]

Eh I have some turbofuel going mainly because I didn't have the diluted fuel recipe for a while. If I need more before getting rocket fuel I'll make some diluted fuel plants.

But idk if I like the whole skip straight to rocket because rocket takes a WHILE, you need to finish every milestone except nuclear power for it

If you get the diluted fuel sure stick to it but I don't feel like turbo was a waste at all

[lavish inlet]

Does anyone here have the brain to help me with my nuclear powerplant train logistics?

[feral jay]

Dammit, I built a power storage blueprint, but I can't possibly have enough inventory to actually plop it 😆

[lavish inlet]

I dont understand signals at all

[gloomy tusk]

imm talking about if you rely on your turbofuel plant it would be hard to tear it down without building a NEW power plant to support it

[white dawn]

Yeah, Turbo Fuel's not a waste, but if you have the HOR+Diluted recipes (and/or don't mind searching for 'em) then Diluted is more "bang for your buck" so to speak. (Of course you could always do both)

[weak bloom]

I mean isn't that true of every power plant

Like you'll have to rework the fuel plant into the rocket fuel plant too

[gloomy tusk]

only rely for fuel recipes because coal and nuclear dont have an upgrade

[white dawn]

The main "problem" with Turbofuel as power is that there's only a few spots on the map that have all of oil+sulfur+coal in the same spot, so it can be a bit inconvenient. I wouldn't personally seek out sulfur for Turbofuel power -- if you're doing that, you may as well just go HD hunting instead. :)

(That's also technically a "problem" for Rocket Fuel too, but the gains from RF make it much more "worth it")

You can get Rocket Fuel a bit earlier by finding the Nitro Rocket Fuel alt recipe, btw. Lets you use it more or less at the same point you're unlocking Uranium

[weak bloom]

I think this one is the way tbh. I didn't have either of those recipes until like, yesterday, well past the point of getting into t4. If I had waited I would have been running into power limits for a while or my previous power plant would have been like 3x the size using an inefficient fuel setup.

So I decided to just go with turbo in blue crater lake and it's served me super well

[white dawn]

It's a bit weird that the alt recipe for RF is available before the actual vanilla recipe is viable

Yeah, I've never regretted setting up Turbofuel power, when I've done it. :D

After all, power's power. :)

[storm hull]

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[weak bloom]

I'm on something like 30gw and I'm honestly contemplating setting up a massive stack of diluted fuel plants again....
I kinda don't want to rush rocket fuel because I wanna take my time with all the milestones. Although I might try to fish for the recipe instead...

[near mural]

if you have blenders for diluted fuel wouldnt it just be better to use a better fuel source atp?

[inner ruin]

uhh can someone just check the thing i dropped in screenshots rq ty

[weak bloom]

Yeah either just use diluted fuel for now or fish for the nitro recipe and use that

[ornate saffron]

@inner ruin

It fear nothing..

But likes headpats

#screenshots message

[near mural]

genuinely these train stations are too big

[inner ruin]

soo... i stop it flying?

[ornate saffron]

No tou gotta mount it to pet it

[ornate saffron]

They are big. Which is a good reason to use other means within a distance of your choosing. I prefer belts and vehicles inside a biome

[west jackal]

do yall use instant scrap to get rid of quartz from production chain?

you lose like 25% production or something though?

[brazen marsh]

please help I am on steam deck I am trying to join a friends server but when I type in the ip and press a to confirm it doesn’t go through because the cursor thing location is on the ip

[ornate saffron]

It is common. Although I believe it produces less scrap

[brazen marsh]

genuinely don’t know what to do

[brave hearth]

Where do you segest stuff

[raven axle]

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[west jackal]

well its the ingot recipe, but yeah it loses out on 25% of ingots from the scraps

WAIT

im dumb, sorry. I meant pure ingot

[ornate saffron]

Have you search #1038092680493801533

[near mural]

yeah theyre large enough to where i might just build a huge train hub for each area then use trucks or belts from there if i try building a whole station for each factory that would be pretty tedious

[west jackal]

the instant scrap makes about 10% more aluminum scrap

i dont have blenders though, need a basic factory first

[near mural]

jst doing another push pull bcs i cant be bothered figuring out how im gonna fit 2 lines near my aluminum rn 😭

[brazen marsh]

idk bro I don’t see nothing genuinely the problem is a doesn’t work after I enter the ip

Does the any steam deck player have this problem

[west jackal]

last question (for now) would you recommend processing oil at the node then move the products? Or move the oil with a train and process on site?

[ornate saffron]

I obviously dont have it memorized. I always just take stock of the resources I have and choose the recipe that fits best. Ive personally never used more then 50% of the worlds aluminum so maxing output has never been a goal

[unkempt blade]

All trains are beautiful

[near mural]

not mine... trust me

[unkempt blade]

be kind to yourself (and make more trains)

[near mural]

they will be beautiful but theyre not now

need me that hoverpack before anything else

[ornate saffron]

I recommend not moving fluids unless you need to.

Same with solid parts mind you.

The two products I personal transport distances are aluminum and oil byproducts

[west jackal]

how do people make angled train tracks look so nice? mine always have weird humps in them

[near mural]

why aluminum?

[ornate saffron]

Vertically?

[west jackal]

well i guess vertically?

oops, responded to wrong message.

[white dawn]

Aluminum Ingots and Rubber/Plastic are two things which are often quite convenient to produce en masse right near their extraction sites, and then send out as-needed

[ornate saffron]

My playstyle is to process one whole node of bauxite at a time. If I need more process another.