satisfactory

[cold berry]

It only had 100k downloads so I'm repping it

[bleak valley]

What does it do exactly

I can guess it’s map related

[cold berry]

Puts your buildings on the map

When you press M. So fun.

[bleak valley]

Simple but sounds fire ngl

[cold berry]

That's why I said it's my favorite vanilla+

[bleak valley]

I’ve been thinking about some small mods like that

[cold berry]

And yeah it is. Maybe my favorite mod. Daisy chaining machines is close though. It just makes wire management sexier to me.

[bleak valley]

I wish daisy chaining was vanilla wiring would be so much cleaner

[white dawn]

Can pretty trivially daisy-chain without mods with blueprints, fwiw. Use beams or the like to embed some wall sockets into machines, etc.

[cold berry]

I did that once, went "okay, I can do it, but I bet there's a daisy chain mod" and then moved onto the mod lol

[bleak valley]

I haven’t touched blueprints in 95 hours lol

[white dawn]

Sure but vanilla-with-blueprints means you don't have to fear game updates. :)

[bleak valley]

I don’t know what I’d use them for the building is the fun part for me

[cold berry]

True. But I can just start a new world then. I'm going to do so many playthroughs.

This is my first. And I'm used to mods updating (I like Minecraft tech packs)

[uneven violet]

does anyone know if they took out the speed cap? me and my friend just started a new run and we've noticed we can go very fast while bhopping without blade runners

[bleak valley]

It was changed yeah

Very fun

[uneven violet]

when? if you know

[white dawn]

I don't think it was intentional, though. More just that an engine upgrade at some point brought with it some new behavior

[bleak valley]

I have no idea I’m pretty new

I started playing three months ago I’ve just heard it was changed

[uneven violet]

[white dawn]

Nah, nothing was changed recently

I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced but it would've been during a "major" update

(so like v1.1, v.1.0, Update 8, etc). As I say, it's not really an intentional mechanic, just something the engine allows

[deft drum]

insert anime + Neil deGrass Tyson + fury meme here

[uneven violet]

i love the doom slayer pfp

[deft drum]

Had it for years, and now in the last month I've had 3 people comment on it

[white dawn]

yeah, I assume some popular streamer must've recently shown it off or talked about it or whatever

[uneven violet]

nah i just really like doom

got so excited when doom the dark ages came out

[deft drum]

Doom 2016 is almost a decade old btw

[last bluff]

hmm, how well would this game play in 480p

[jagged nymph]

why can beans survive nukes

[dense violet]

bouncy

[last bluff]

why does foilage thrive around lifetimes of radiation but then die from a nuke?

[drowsy kelp]

A nuke is an actual explosion

[ornate saffron]

it dies from the Concussive force

[magic void]

Would anyone mind sending me a pic of how they separate from their main train line?

Or would they mind taking a quick look at what ive got planned?

[white dawn]

The vast majority of casualties from the nuclear bombs that have been used in real life were from concussive force as well, fwiw

Thus far we (thankfully) haven't seen nuclear weapons deployed in a way that maximizes the radiological hazards instead of physical destruction

[ornate saffron]

all my examples are pyschotic lol. But there is many good youtube videos on the subject if no one pulls through for you

[dense violet]

what exactly do you mean by that?

your main paths will generally just have 2 lanes - sometimes if you have short branches to 1 station 1 lane branching off works ok?

[magic void]

Okay but when I am running two lines would you then connect one line to the one of the station and then the other line on the opposite side?

[dense violet]

you can? but in general keep stations off the main path, makes your life SO much easier

[dense violet]

if this makes sense? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1366407860409466982/image.png?ex=69a8de3c&is=69a78cbc&hm=f542770679256292b6fad8f5d9bb82f719841cd93a555d39efa728c93597cc1c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1557&height=713

black lines are main rail, red are off/on ramps, rectangles stations

[last bluff]

I just saw two giant enemy spiders beat up a nuke hog

time for a break

[ornate saffron]

Ya spiders only get along with spiders

[magic void]

That does make some sense. Could I dm you a couple pics real quick?

[dense violet]

could just post in #math-and-meta - simple and can have images

[magic void]

Ok will do

[last bluff]

the spook of seeing that though

[ornate saffron]

I play with arachnophobia mode on.

Cats murdering everything is on brand

[hybrid nymph]

wow its quiet here

[leaden turret]

looks out window

🌃

[coarse kindle]

Is 1.2 update coming to console?

[bitter niche]

not sure, I don't know anything about console

[leaden turret]

no reason for it not to.

[bitter niche]

when are we if ever getting 1.2?

[coarse kindle]

Just wondering if we get the same updates or not, played a few games that had 2 different versions both with their own updates on console and pc

[feral jay]

March 12th

[coarse kindle]

So idk if this I the same

[leaden turret]

November 4th, 2025 Livestream
Q&A: When will Consoles get 1.2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bycZQaaRlpY

exactly the same time

[coarse kindle]

Sweet thank you

[leaden turret]

PC players get it March 12th

because Experimental branch

Console have to wait for the actual release

[feral jay]

ohhh yea no exp on console, my bad

[bitter niche]

oh that's just the experimental

[leaden turret]

if you wanna play 1.2 on console early: apply for job: https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/7113819-senior-programmer

[hybrid nymph]

lol as if coffee stain could hire me

I have no programming experience

[warm finch]

fake it until you make it!

[leaden turret]

https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/7312798-internship-programmer different studio

[hybrid nymph]

At least they hire women, unlike Blizzard!

[leaden turret]

I think Blizzard does hire women, buuuuuuut women have enough sense to not wanna work there

[hybrid nymph]

less than 1% of Blizzard's workforce is women

I had a friend who got regected from a job there as a graphic designer because she's a woman

not a good palce to work

Neither is EA, they don't pay their employees on time

[leaden turret]

I would think the [redacted], [redacted], and [redacted] would make it not a good place to work

also #off-topic-general

[hybrid nymph]

okay gotta go

I got stuff to do will be abck ina bout an hour

[tacit mesa]

what upgrades would yall recommend to get for the dimensional depot? i know mercer spheres are limited so i dont wanna get min/maxxed

[warm finch]

you won't there are enough on the map to max both types of upgrades.

[ornate saffron]

and still have many left overs

[warm finch]

I personally prefer upload speed over stack size early game

[ornate saffron]

I often hold off on the final upload upgrade as it costs 24 spheres(i think) for that cost you can add extra depotes to the few lines to the materials really need that at that speed

[warm finch]

agreed

[near mural]

does turbo fuel just burn slower in fuel powered gens?

[warm finch]

correct. and rocket fuel burns even slower. with ironized fuel burning the slowest

[glad drum]

25% as of the end of 2022

[ornate saffron]

same with the different coals. And rods

[near mural]

is there any reason to use turbo fuel over fuel if im not maxing my oil to begin with? getting coal and sulfur seems like alot of work to add just to burn fuel slower

[glad drum]

its better and cooler yes

[near mural]

turbo fuel does sound cooler than fuel...

[glad drum]

and then you make NITRO FUEL

[ornate saffron]

i often skip trubo and go straight to Nitro rocket fuel.

honestly most casual players can beat the game with just regular fuel optimized

[glad drum]

I also skipped turbo and went straight to nitro

[tacit mesa]

oh sweet

[cold berry]

Ye, I haven't gotten turbo yet. I plan to though

[warm finch]

personal preference. slower burning means you can use more generators off the same pipeline for more power. and rocket fuel goes even further.

Personally I like to skip turbo fuel and go straight to nitro rocket fuel (alt recipe after unlocking rocket fuel in the MAM). Heavy Oil Residue and Diluted Fuel alt recipes are an absolute must imo

[cold berry]

Very soon. I'm pretty casual (I like decorating and I'm also learning but have played similar games)

[willow pond]

hot damn. 3rd time this week a doggo has given me a purple slug

[warm finch]

now you'll get nothing but nuclear waste for a while lol

[willow pond]

prolly

[near mural]

are blenders required for nitro rocket fuel? my goal gen plant cant handle me adding another factory so im planning on making fuel power sometime soon

[warm finch]

yes blenders are required. I find an oil site I don't plan to use and set up a temporary fuel generator plant

[ornate frost]

my automated wiring factory is complete... thats the end of phase 2 :D

[near mural]

yeah this might be the play blue crater is close to my main factory but it seems like the go to place for anything fuel related so i wanna save it for smth larger later ill jst slap down a scuffed fuel setup next to my already goofed up plastic and rubber 😭

[warm finch]

there you go! just remember it is temporary until you get into rocket fuel and then go bac and redo it all when you have the power to support further expansion

[gloomy tusk]

whats automated wiring?

[warm finch]

a space elevator part you need to complete phase 2

[ornate saffron]

its a phase part

[gloomy tusk]

how have i never heard of it and im on phase 5 😭

[warm finch]

you have, and you had to make it in order to get to phase 5 lol

[gloomy tusk]

what does it look like

oh wait is it that one that you have to do as well as modular engines and stuff

[ornate saffron]

lol you need 8100 to beat the game lol

[gloomy tusk]

for what part?

ive finished nuclear pasta and ballistic warp drives

[warm finch]

!wikisearch automated+wiring

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=automated+wiring

[gloomy tusk]

i hated this part

[near mural]

if i overclock power generating buildings does it consume fuel linearly or exponentially

[warm finch]

linearly

[near mural]

soooo theres no real downside to overclocking them?

[warm finch]

if you're short on power shards, best to save them for miners and extractors instead

[gloomy tusk]

it consumes more fuel

[ornate saffron]

Automated wiring. Cumulated over the game you need 8100 to reach credits

[gloomy tusk]

for example oc coal gen 2x and it consumes 2x more coal and water

[leaden turret]

reminder: you can automate them now

[near mural]

yeah i just wasnt sure if it was exponential like power is on other buildings

[warm finch]

only at phase 5. which that player is not at yet

[ornate saffron]

often It just means you use less space. For coal not a big deal But my last Nitro fuel setup had 480 Fuel generators clocked at 240%

[gloomy tusk]

i dont think any power on other buildings is exponential it always has a certain way it increases by

[near mural]

thats actually insane bro

[west jackal]

beefy is always here when i play at night, its lovely

[gloomy tusk]

beefy is just always here.

[west jackal]

Beefalo, why overclocked to 240%?

since i may be doing nitro soon, im curious

[ornate saffron]

its pretty conservative TBH
use the search bar for content upload by @normal orbit or @zenith pecan they have posted some truley insane builds

[gloomy tusk]

because then it consumes 10 fuel per min instead of like 8,86475485

[ornate saffron]

it uses exaclty 10 units per min

[gloomy tusk]

called it

[west jackal]

ugh okay

will need a lot of power shards then

[gloomy tusk]

power shards arent hard to get

[warm finch]

sloop the slugs into shards. you get A LOT

[low ingot]

^ this, i found out too late

[west jackal]

ikik, ive got like 400, but for that same plant i would need 1400...

[gloomy tusk]

i found it out one unlock before automated power shards

[ornate saffron]

I set up my Nitro rocket fuel in nodes that use 75 oil. this results in 300 rocket fuel supplying 30 fuel generators set to 240%

this allows for easy trouble shooting and scaliong. I can walk away after doing a node then comback later so i only have to place 30 generators at a time

[warm finch]

that is also how I do it

[west jackal]

how much crude?

(in total)

[ornate saffron]

i have it all typed out if you are interested in reading iot

[west jackal]

bet

[hollow hemlock]

craziness, why even do it if you're not going to stamp down 600 generators at a time boggles

[ornate saffron]

my last setup used 1200 crude

[west jackal]

shi only?

[warm finch]

ah the days back when fuel generators only made 150 mw.... lol

[west jackal]

my last diluted fuel was 1800 crude and i think that only fed like 240 gens.. so you used 30% less and did like quadruple the gens...

[ornate saffron]

my goal wasnt to get as much power as possible. The goal was to power mt factories ^_^

[west jackal]

nono, i was saying that it made a lot of gens for not a ton of crude

[warm finch]

HOR into diluted fuel into nitro rocket fuel goes a LOOOOONG ways

[ornate saffron]

my last nitro rocket fuel setup supplied 400gw

[west jackal]

"The power of nitro"

i saw someone on here say one of the fuel stages was negative power?

maybe it was ficsonium?

[warm finch]

ionized fuel

[ornate saffron]

Ficsonium and Ionized are not negative done well it is JUST positive

[proven snow]

Like it takes more power to make than it generates?

[west jackal]

yea

[west jackal]

can you elaborate

[proven snow]

Even if it was negative I guess I could see a use case

Though rare

With underclocking I'm sure you could make it positive, even if it has poor returns

[warm finch]

ficsonium is never a negative for me, it gets rid of nuclear waste (for more power). Ionized is very energy intensive and takes A LOT of work to make it positive

[ornate saffron]

all the machines you need to craft the power source takes almost as much as you gain from the power source,

for ionized fuel you are literly burning Power shards you craft

[west jackal]

so... wdym by "JUST" positive?

[warm finch]

power shards are cheap to make, but they take a long time

[ornate saffron]

i havent done the math recently but the power costs for the infrustructure needed to make it is just below the power you produce.

[low ingot]

best bet is to unlock the slop augmentation asapp so you can throw one in a constructor with the slugs

[warm finch]

for ionized fuel you have to go at a large enough scale to get positive returns on power.

[ornate saffron]

Someone yesterday did the math for ficsonium when i mentioned slooping it may make the power gains negative and sure enough it cost more energy then it made

[west jackal]

shoot really? so is ficsonium only worth it to get rid of waste as energy effecicent as possible

[low ingot]

and if you really wanna reach current end game

[west jackal]

Last time i did nuclear, i sunk the plut rods

that was before t9 was added

[ornate saffron]

again youll have to do the math for your setup specificly. But if you do not sloop the crafting chain it is just positive.

that being said you can get lots of power just powering reactors via Uranium and sinking the plutonium.

and if you burn the plutonium the waste output is so slow its easy to make a massive storage that you can forget about for 1000 hours

[west jackal]

i kinda imagine that burning plut/burning ficsonium will be better

[west jackal]

nah im about green energy

tahts why i build hundreds of fuel burners 🙂

[hollow hemlock]

use the rods in trucks and drones to really spread the radiation storm, sink the rest 😄

[ornate saffron]

its a sandbox game.

a reason such as "i wana do it" is good enough

[west jackal]

i know!

i was just curious about the implications and wether it was detrimental

[weak bloom]

the aluminum is producing \o/

[ornate saffron]

a dronme over head powered by plutonium is a great way to remind yourself to top off your rad protection ^_^

Ive never burned a rod in a reactor. Ive only used them to power vehicles. I keep saying to myself " this time ill go nuclear" BUT nitro rocket fuel is so easy. ITs one blueprint for making the fuel and one BP for generators

[warm finch]

going nuclear is fun. and you have to really get creative with some designs because of the logistical complexity as well as the size of the reactors

[ornate saffron]

butr some how more compact then Nitro Rocket fuel due to generator spamming lol

[warm finch]

Not wrong lol!

at least with nitro rocket fuel it's super easy and convinent to go vertical

Ive seen many players burn out trying to go vertical on nuclear power builds. It does not go well

[last bluff]

Do people really go beyond burning grass in bio burners? Waste of time

[warm finch]

is guzzling ink a waste of time then?

[ornate saffron]

@ember escarp has been looking for volounteers to test his Verticle Nuclear build

[warm finch]

that's a hard pass from me lol

[last bluff]

It's the goal

[ornate saffron]

i burn grass mostly in bongs

[last bluff]

I hope 300 grass a minute

[ornate saffron]

no 28grams last me a while....

[west jackal]

nitro is only one bp? how do you swing that

[ornate saffron]

i can DM you my write up if you wish.

[west jackal]

id love that.

[ornate saffron]

sent

[zealous haven]

is there something that will let me see the amount of items ona belt that displays it?

[warm finch]

yes you have to buy it from the AWESOME shop

[zealous haven]

what are the requirements to get it

[warm finch]

to buy it or to build it?

[zealous haven]

buy

[swift turret]

I love going through the effort of setting up a train line to an oil node and not mathing if those oil nodes had enough 🙃

[warm finch]

I think it's like 6 tickets?

[proven snow]

On the bright side you now have train infrastructure in place in case you need to go other places, and are partway there to your oil demands 😄

[warm finch]

sorry it's 5 tickets

!wikisearch conveyor+throughput+monitor

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=conveyor+throughput+monitor

[warm finch]

@zealous haven

[ornate saffron]

buy the schematic. then you can build whenever you wish.

its shows a average over time

[swift turret]

WAIT OMG past me is so smart way smarter than future me

[zealous haven]

ty

[swift turret]

I setup a train line to a caterium and SAM node up top some cliffs. BUT it also has access to the coast oil nodes

[near mural]

i assume its not a bad idea to have fuel filled fluid buffers if something goes wrong but is there any reason to actually have them connected to my fuel gens

[ornate saffron]

past you is always better then future you. The future you is a jerk and thats why we always leave things for future you lol

[west jackal]

buffers are bad idea

[ornate saffron]

no generally most people only use buffers to Buffer train inputs and outputs

[swift turret]

true

[west jackal]

Idk beef past me is an ass leaving so much work for current me 😠

[near mural]

why is this

[warm finch]

sadly buffers don't work out well cuz fluid mechanics. However if you want the LOOK of buffers, fill em up, and then disconnect and run a pipe straight through each connection

[west jackal]

^

[near mural]

i see thank you

[ornate saffron]

Example I just had Eye surgery. I put it on my Visa cause F future me lol

[ornate saffron]

they tend to cause more issue then they solve. they make head lift vary, you can only achieve max flow rate when pipes (and buffers) are full. they can add backflow and slooshing issues.

you can make them work wit h lots of effort and practice but they are generally not worth it and cause more issues then they solve

[weak bloom]

mk5 belts get \o/

finally I can play the game :^)

[proven snow]

Playing privileges granted

[ornate saffron]

this is the only reason i rush aluminum

[weak bloom]

yeah now I can triple overclock mk2 miners and actually use it

[dense violet]

really no reason - if your power shuts down they stop burning fluid

you can manage to put a buffer in a system without it causing problems - but it also doesn't give you any benifits

[ornate saffron]

wait until you get ||mk3 miners and mark 6 belts||

[weak bloom]

that's gonna be like another 150 hours off at this rate

[ornate saffron]

im still got 150 hours left in phase 3 if it makes you feel better ^_^

[hybrid nymph]

Since when? Not since I last checked

[cold berry]

Just uninstalled a mod because I found out my main use for it is in vanilla, kill me lol

(the throughput counter)

That's the trouble with modding at the 3/4 point of the game content-wise

[weak bloom]

I don't suppose that trains carrying power means that you can hoverpack along train tracks.....?

[cold berry]

Wait trains carry power

Oh duh. Oh duh.

[weak bloom]

well the stations do, that's why I'm asking

[cold berry]

Oh, I see what you mean

[weak bloom]

not sure if the tracks count as "wires" for purpose of the hoverpack, or if I want to be able to do that, I need to also run wires along the rail line

[dense violet]

they are not power connections no

yet another reason to have powerlines under the rails

[weak bloom]

dammit okay time to modify my train pillar blueprint to include a power nub LOL

[dense violet]

you want that anyway

do you really want to cut power to yoru world if you're ever editing your rail?

[weak bloom]

yeah it'll be useful for running to resource nodes and stuff along the line

[open sparrow]

no, you can hover over train tracks

[weak bloom]

....I did not think of that @_@

[dense violet]

I am 99.999% sure rails don't act as power nubs

[weak bloom]

wait they do I'm doing it right now

[dense violet]

100% that they didn't use to and that I'd be very surprised if they made that change and no one spoke of it on server

[open sparrow]

you can 100% hover over powered train tracks

and have always been able to

[dense violet]

hmmm ok

[weak bloom]

I feel like I'm still gonna use the jetpack when exploring but hoverpack when building

oh, you can't move upwards at an angle with the hoverpack?

hm I think you can it's just REALLY slow

[ornate saffron]

change your run to toggle. This way you no longer need to hold shift while using the hover pack

[west jackal]

beef i figured we should move out of math, i agree learning sucks, im learning how to do circles and other stuffs, circles suck butt,

[ornate saffron]

lol ya, Ill eventually go easy mode with modes. But i want to know how to do everything in vanilla first .

[ornate frost]

phase 3 unlocks a lot... not particularly sure where to start lol

[ornate saffron]

Versatile frames is a good place ^_^

But FUEL! is so good. itthe gains over coal power is real

[ornate frost]

oh damn, your right, fuel generators and oil

[west jackal]

tbh, didnt bother with automating versatle. and still havent done fuel! im like 200 versatile away from phase 4

[unkempt blade]

The resources to unlock HUB research usually offers some direction about what comes first. You'll usually have to unlock some things to unlock the rest

[ornate frost]

looks like its a motor factory and a plastic factory up next, fuel power seems very fun

[ornate saffron]

My first plastic is usually a byproduct of fuel for fuel generators.

[ornate saffron]

Many ways to play and as long as you reach your goals they are all correct

[unkempt blade]

weird, my first fuel power is usually a byproduct of plastic/rubber

[west jackal]

my next playthrough im going to add a single mod

[unkempt blade]

it's nice how that first factory normally makes more power than it consumes though

[west jackal]

it will be one that requires constant feeding of elevator parts 🙂

[ornate saffron]

I use SKYUI. I had eye surgery in January and having it day time all the time reduces the strain on my eyes as they recover over the next 6 months

[ornate frost]

anything to note about byproducts? I have seen that they need to be taken care of very efficiently or something to that effect

[elfin smelt]

if they arent liquid you can just sink em

[ornate saffron]

If your outputs ever backup the entire system halts until they are cleared.

Sink your solid byproducts as you workout the fluids. After you finish all your fluids you can back track to the solids.

as i suggest to all first playthrough enjoyers build for needs not for the future.

ther is no issues with putting down a sign that tells you what you are sinking and then come back later when you need it for something

ive been laying in bed for a hour lol. brain wont stop lol

[west jackal]

good to know

[ornate saffron]

no just a over active brain. Thinking about stuff ^_^

[unkempt blade]

time to give up and reject sleep forever imo

[unkempt blade]

have you tried counting factory carts until you fall asleep?

[ornate saffron]

yup ^_^ Listening to Star trek TNG while i try to sleep often helps but it was all removed from the streaming services i had....

Im Sure there is a torrent of ways to acquire it though

[unkempt blade]

they did a remaster I think if you need to own it too 🖖

[ornate saffron]

i have all startrek but discovery (and what came after) on blueray. I just dont have a blueray player in my bedroom lol

i have thought of ripping it all

[near mural]

any way to make the heavy encased frame a little less awkward

buncha decimals

[west jackal]

cool pun

[ornate saffron]

i certainly was NOT talking about piracy that is against the discard rules. I was just saying there is many ways to view that content

[ornate saffron]

just run it at 100% ^_^ youll need them for modular engines, ACU and personal use

[west jackal]

argh, sorry! I misread those signs

[glad drum]

idk i just googled

[near mural]

i assume i should probably make 5-10/m atleast but even as daunting as that sounds it dosnt seem like itd be nearly enough if i wanna automate engine and acu along with having some for my depot 😔

[ornate saffron]

start with something small a ACu only needs 1. So do one for personal use (feeding a Industrial storage then a Dem depot) and one for ACU

when in doubt you can always check the wiki to see how often you use the part

[near mural]

thank you

[ornate saffron]

no problem, I try to break it down to simple bite sized pieces. It makes eat easier to manage. "

A good example is eating a large meal. Putting it all in your mouth at once is awkward and you may choke.

[near mural]

yeah itl definitly be my most complex production line yet so trying to start with 5 or 10/m is def a bad idea 😭

[ornate saffron]

small steps. The map is huge and there is more resources then youll use for your first run.

take your time you can always build more

[weak bloom]

ok 7.5 supercomputers/min is probably overkill for right now..... XD

[spare prism]

[weak bloom]

3.75 it is

[west jackal]

with mk2 blueprint maker... i can fit 4 fuel gens, 3 power shards and i can have two blueprint to slap down for fuel, and just need to add water and crude 80 water/min and 30 crude/min per blueprint

a little scuffed... worried about fluid issues though

the 4 fuel gens in a 5x5 area is... tight

#screenshots message is this pipe layout going to cause flow issues?

was the only "non clipping" way i could fit in mk2

[swift turret]

oh you were serious

[west jackal]

nah, was joking fs

[last bluff]

I like making my foundations and factory walls with blueprints

[west jackal]

playstyle question for anyone here

would you rather use train/truck to transport resources to build site, or hypertube cannon yourself like an amazon delivery package

[last bluff]

you kinda need to transport resources properly unless you can stomach transporting an inventory of raw material (where that's even possible at all) per remote location and still get bottlenecked by throughput

[low ingot]

I have yet to experience the hyper cannon as I dont know how to make one, but trains are top notch

[swift turret]

I like trucks early on but trains are better overall

[unkempt blade]

something like... #1461827725722648757 message

[last bluff]

tractors are MVP for doing your own deliveries actually

no need to think that far ahead when you just unlocked steel

[west jackal]

i just mean construction resources

[gloomy tusk]

hey thats mine

[west jackal]

i mean a train with a bunch of freight cars is the best solution I think? was just curious because i normally just yeet myself with a cannon

[last bluff]

resources you want on your player? oh it makes no sense to lay rails for just that but you can use the trains you set before programming

if they don't fit in your inventory however, don't you have depots for that?

[west jackal]

i need much more than depots

[unkempt blade]

the depot takes care of that for me more often than not in the current version of the game

[west jackal]

i need 7k concrete 5k sheets 2k steel beams for example

[last bluff]

more wiggleroom for foundations usually does the trick

[west jackal]

plus 5k rubber

[glacial drum]

You can always setup multiple depots for a single material

Run output from a concrete factory into a a splitter to a container that outputs to multiple depots and overflows to a sink

[last bluff]

and unless you really need your foundations down first, you can do it in parts, they fill up quickly enough

however, while that is a lot, if you think you need even more, a quick train track might still be a good idea

[west jackal]

cant afford

too lazy to get the resources, much easier to yeet myself with full inventory

[unkempt blade]

you could hunt spheres near your build site while you wait for the depot to refill

[west jackal]

already cleared this area

[unkempt blade]

in that case I vote for driving a factory cart back and forth between your storage and build site

[west jackal]

LOL ofcourse you do satan

[fiery pewter]

Ah, the peculiar #unknown

[gloomy tusk]

click on it

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[spare prism]

Out of 1 pure node. How much plates, nails, iron rods can I make. Ps. I don't have alternative recipe

[warm finch]

you'll have to figure out the math to determine that

[next ivy]

infinite

[fiery pewter]

Like 60 plates per minute, 40 screws per minute and 20 rods per minute iirc

[next ivy]

what ratio do you want of each

[spare prism]

I destroyed my plates, rod, nails factory to make smart plating factory and the only node near my current base is a pure node so I was gunna do all stuff on that and what I can do =

[warm finch]

why not use another iron node nearby?

[spare prism]

That doesn't matter I just want what will fit on it with those 3 each

[next ivy]

then why ask if it doesnt matter

just make iron plates screws and rods

[spare prism]

Bc I'm looking what I can put on it and that's been answered

[fiery pewter]

This is kinda evenly spread

[warm finch]

iron nodes are VERY plentiful. use multiple iron nodes. 1 for plates, 1 for screws, 1 for rods. for example

[wind obsidian]

dont use a pure for basic items like that lol

[spare prism]

Thanks

[fiery pewter]

Me in my northern forest starter base:

[spare prism]

That place is full of pures

[fiery pewter]

Exactly

[spare prism]

I play how I want and you play the game how you want

[bleak valley]

Man next time I’m on the game I’m gonna have to find a spot for a new factory to start making phase 4 parts

[wind obsidian]

😭 🙏

[bleak valley]

My current factory is hitting its limits

[hard stump]

Hard question and I doubt I’ll get a good answer I’m looking for but just in case.
Slowly getting to mid game factories etc
So iv been trying to on my recent builds utilize mk 6 belts have a plant that’s making 7200 a min. I have the recipes for both steel pipes and wire to be mad out of irony ingots. So out of these 5 parts total is there a part you truly feel 1200 is to much? Screws,pipes,wire,plates rods

[warm finch]

never too much. sink any excess until you need more of it

[fiery pewter]

I've got so much iron I'm automating smart plates in tier 2

[wind obsidian]

I'm just saying. You can build better and more important factories out of that pure node later on, it's just a suggestion to use unpure or normal notes for plates, rods, screws, etc

[bleak valley]

The “I don’t wanna make too many” mindset is what limited my original factory

[west jackal]

is 300 fluid/min better in mk1 or mk2 pipe? i know technically mk1 can support, but its a long pipe

[wind obsidian]

bc those are items you won't need that much anymore after unlocking higher tiers

[warm finch]

honestly doesn't matter. Iron nodes are super plentiful.

[warm finch]

mk2 cuz then you hav ea built in "buffer" of full 600/m3 any time

[wind obsidian]

if he only got that pure next to him, it does

[spare prism]

I'm just starting how lol plus all my other nodes are far away I have a pure near me, also I can explore later on but rn I need plates, screws and rodes

[wind obsidian]

maybe just split and build low % t1 factories on it

[warm finch]

still does not matter. Iron nodes are still the most plentiful node on the map

[hard stump]

Well the purpose/ point was any all all access ingots will be used other places but don’t want to work to hard on that till I have a rough # how many ingots a min will not be made into something else excess will be trained somewhere else

[wind obsidian]

wdym "far away"? how many meters?

[warm finch]

for iron, it's not worth freighting iron ingots around. Plenty of iron nodes aroundt he map you can make what you need and belt it in

[spare prism]

Let me pull my map up

[hard stump]

Yeah but it’s how I choose to play out as many trains by nodes pick up the materials etc
Also rather make more of a part then just sink the info make more of a part then skink it

[wind obsidian]

building mining boxes all around the map is fun

thats not far @spare prism

honestly I would just use the 2 unpure ones

ore one of them
idk what phase or tier you're in tho

[spare prism]

I said I'm still still starting out. I took my starting stuff to make smart plates

[west jackal]

i dont understand, i built 10 of a blueprint, dismantled all 10, and now i dont have the resources, but there are no dismantle crates?

[normal orbit]

There are, look harder

[primal crypt]

@spare prism let me ask if you use that iron node for more plates how far will you need to get reinforced plates, rotors and stators. how many plates to you need for your reinforced plates and frames.

[west jackal]

not on compass?

or map

[spare prism]

I have factory for rotor and reinforced plates

[west jackal]

also dont see them

if it helps, they were in the ocean?

[normal orbit]

Did you turn them off in the map list

[west jackal]

no, i see other dismantle crates

it happened recently dismantling other belts?

[normal orbit]

Then check those for your materials

[west jackal]

itll go to far away crates?

[normal orbit]

Yup

[warm finch]

if you have a dismantle crate nearby enough it'll go into said dismantle crate

[west jackal]

wtf it went hundreds of meters away

you were right sap

[primal crypt]

yes be carefull delteding storage boxes it will warp things to the nearest existing crate.

I had a bunch of mercers spere go into the next biome.

[normal orbit]

Tip: don't leave crates around

[west jackal]

see previous "Too lazy" comment

;p

[next ivy]

it can be convenient if you place the crate in strategic locations

[wind obsidian]

has anybody in here tried satis plus yet

[west jackal]

the mod? i did a long time ago, didnt get far

assuming talking about same mod, it was a while before 1.0

[hollow lance]

I finished SF+ a few days ago. Took 310 hours -- twice what it takes me for the base game.

[verbal dagger]

why does my industrial fluid buffer lose liquid when I only have fluid going into it, and not out of it?

[hollow lance]

They have a discord...

[hollow lance]

Slosh!

And, the numbers displayed are a rolling average over several seconds.

[warm finch]

it is sloshing back into the pipe. also, don't use fluid buffers except for train stations. They do not work well sadly

[verbal dagger]

alright

[dense violet]

they do their job very well - it's just that people put them in places where it isn't their job

[next ivy]

god fluids need an update

[wind obsidian]

💀

[dense violet]

learn to use them

[warm finch]

ok feel free to educate me please.

[hollow lance]

The other use is an emergency supply at a power plant. Have a buffer with a valve in front of it, so it only fills and never drains. Then use it when/if your power grid crashes and you need to do a cold start of the power plant.

[next ivy]

so far it sounds like the use for them is: dont

[dense violet]

if you put a fluid buffer in line, a pump entrance and exit, and flood the system - almost certainly work fine. But it has no job to do there. It has no use
unlike train stations

where they actually do something

and when people slap them around willy nilly well, troubles will happen

[dense violet]

if your power grid crashes the fuel stops burning

[warm finch]

Ok so, a more complicated answer than what i provided for a noobie.

[verbal dagger]

I have a refinery with 3 power shards in it. That should power 3 fuel generators with 3 shards in each of them, right?

[dense violet]

more nuanced. Buffers bad suggests they are bugged

[dense violet]

do math with numbers, not machines

how much is your refinery outputing?

[warm finch]

except I didn't say "bad". I said outside of train stations, they do not work well.

[verbal dagger]

I'm sorry, what does it mean to do math with numbers not machines?

[dense violet]

state the number of fuel pm the refinery is outputing

[next ivy]

we dont know all machine rates by heart

[dense violet]

'not work well' is ... ambigous at best

[hollow lance]

One of my early games, the power grid crashed because the fuel stopped being produced. Before batteries, having an unused fuel supply was a good way to get power back on.

[next ivy]

just like fluid mechanics

[west jackal]

is 50 packages enough to keep a short loop for 1:1 dpf?

[dense violet]

should be yeah

[warm finch]

Please remember who/what the target audience was in regards to the answer provided. You know your stuff, as do I. no need to argue semantics/nuance for a new player.

[hollow lance]

Not sure what you're asking, but note that when you set machine rates you can type in small equations instead of numbers.

[west jackal]

whats the best way to let it "manifold" the generators

[hollow lance]

Make sure the pipes are full! 🙂

[verbal dagger]

You mean I can type in the rate I want with the power shards? The clock speed?

[west jackal]

right, how do i do that if they are connected to power lines in blueprint

[next ivy]

tell us

dont tell us 5 machines
instead tell us 400 per minute

otherwise we have to go and look up all the rates again and again

[verbal dagger]

I have 1 refinery that is putting out 100 fuel per minute, that should power 2 fuel generators that are taking 50 fuel per minute each right?

[west jackal]

2 fuel gens at 250%? yes

[hollow lance]

For example, say you had a machine that produces 30 of somthing per minute and used one ingredient at 24/min. And, say you for some reason only want to use 15/min of that ingredient. You could set the number of items per minute to be produced to be 30*15/24. That said, I think we all mostly run at 100% unless overclocking.

[verbal dagger]

I'm trying to overclock as much as I can, so I can save on space.

space is a resource

[hollow lance]

Build up!

[warm finch]

you have a whole map. space is PLENTIFUL. plus you can go vertical

also until you're drowning in power shards, best to save limited power shards for miners and extractors

[verbal dagger]

the less machines I have, the less I have to travel around. That's how I want to play.

I have about 300 power shards, atm. maybe 400

[normal orbit]

Space is near infinite

[hollow lance]

The more you overclock, the more time you have to spend building power plant(s).

[verbal dagger]

as I said...

[warm finch]

fair enough. knock yourself out.

[next ivy]

space is near infinite, so are resources, in my first game i actually underclocked a lot to safe power

[verbal dagger]

the more I overclock, the less I have to build. It's less buildings to build.

[next ivy]

blueprints 👀

[verbal dagger]

are you talkign to me henir?

[west jackal]

power shards other than for miners are to make life easy

like making a DPF blueprint that takes 30 crude and makes 80 fuel in 1 5x4 layout

[warm finch]

don't disagree. but power shards can be a very limited resource until you unlock slooping

[west jackal]

fair

[verbal dagger]

I read that power shards eventually are basically infinite. how?

[west jackal]

im VERY happy with the blueprint i setup. WAYYYYYYY easier than how i used to do dpf

[hollow lance]

My bigger factories have multiple floors elevated about terrain obstacles. Any given product gets a row. Adding more machines to a row of identical stuff takes very little time.

[west jackal]

end game

[next ivy]

you can craft them from common materials

finish the power slug mam researches

[west jackal]

for now, research in MAM, you can get more that way

[hollow lance]

See also the "quick blueprint" mod. Hightlight stuff in dismantle mode (using the ctrl key to toggle individual items). Press "B" and instant blueprint.

[next ivy]

so limited to 50 items ?

or was that limit removed with that mod too

[hollow lance]

Dunno.

[ebon fossil]

lads how much power should i be making by phase 4?

[warm finch]

as much power as you want/need to make

[verbal dagger]

depends entirely on your power consumption

[hollow lance]

It really varies by player. IIRC, I sometimes have under 10 GW.

Many of use finish the game w/o nuclear.

[last bluff]

I misread it as tier 4 and now I'm imagining a base FULL of coal power

[ebon fossil]

yea im just cerious what you guys make by phase 4, i make four times the consumsion right now

[verbal dagger]

I'm on phase 6 and just got my power production up to about 9 GW. I'm currently using about 3 GW, but plan on upping that.

[west jackal]

im an idiot

[ebon fossil]

thats tier 3 or tier 2 i think 😭

[warm finch]

you mean tier 6?

[verbal dagger]

yes

[west jackal]

i forgot to build sink before bringing power plant online, got everything running at 100% now its all broken

[warm finch]

yeah this game does that to us lol

[verbal dagger]

I meant tier 6

[last bluff]

I'm glad to not have been the only one misreading

[feral snow]

satif.... acory.

: - )

[fiery pewter]

Now what is that

[last bluff]

I sometimes have the urge to just build an apartment complex but the beds are missing

[fiery pewter]

Cursed af

[feral snow]

: - )

[warm finch]

I'm currently making 7k mw and I'm suffering for it lol. then again I was pushing to get mk3 miners and mk5 belts unlocked so there's that.

In all of my other friends' saves, we were usually making 20k+ mw

[fiery pewter]

1k MW= 1 GW

[feral snow]

c:

[ebon fossil]

I built a costco so i cant say much

[feral snow]

:>

[warm finch]

yes and? I hate using GW

[last bluff]

kmw is really funny, makes me wanna use kkmw

[feral snow]

gw is just kkkw

[hollow lance]

Well, if you end up saying TW, you've gone too far.

[feral snow]

erm.......

[fiery pewter]

What's wrong with my boy gigawatt

[ebon fossil]

im consuming ~2k mw [max consumsion is like 30k or smth a lot of machines are off due to overflowing systems] and producing 8k mw or close to it

[sharp basin]

Can I make all 3 Phase 2 elevator products with one only pure iron node? In need like 140/min for one, 15 for the second, 25 for the third… I know it’s below the MK3 belt limit but will it work?

[feral snow]

let us go even further. kw is just dddw

[last bluff]

the game is 25.53kkkB

[fiery pewter]

With the lowest rates imaginable yes

[warm finch]

everything

[feral snow]

ergo GW is just dddddddddW

[fiery pewter]

List it

All of it

[sharp basin]

Yes I’m talking about the smallest factory possible

[ebon fossil]

i used 1 pure overclocked one so yes

[warm finch]

unlock smart splitters and start sinking all of your overflow. but first upgrade your power lol!

[hollow lance]

You could always plan it out in the "satisfactory tools" calcuator or one of the planners.

[warm finch]

1. you like it.

[last bluff]

ddddddmW

[feral snow]

or in your mind

[coral marsh]

The devs should've just added in Gw and Tw values

[ebon fossil]

iv had smart splitters unlocked

[last bluff]

Pw

[fiery pewter]

So what you're saying is that you dislike me

[sharp basin]

Yeah I always do

[west jackal]

any use for polymer resin

[coral marsh]

No one would ever reach a Petawatt

[feral snow]

ddddddddddddW.

can just use d.

[last bluff]

not with that attitude!

[fiery pewter]

Yes, residual rubber/plastic

[ebon fossil]

iv got like 5 industrial storages per item i just made overefficent farms that fill them up in 3-4 mins...

[last bluff]

m for mini/milli(?)

[warm finch]

rubber/plastic and fabric

[feral snow]

oh ok

[west jackal]

any point doing it?

[feral snow]

what

[coral marsh]

Im not even kidding, bro, I use certain mods and the max i could ever reach is around 12-15Tw

[fiery pewter]

Yeah kinda

[coral marsh]

1 Petawatt is 1 thousand Terawatts

[last bluff]

WE NEED TO GO FURTHER

[hollow lance]

Sinking stuff can be a power strain early on. But by end-game, when you're looking at particle accelerators, the drain from AWESOME isn't significant.

[feral snow]

but in that case m just neutralizes 3 d's.

so dddmW is W

[west jackal]

i mean, the fabric maybe so i can do filters? but i have hundreds of plastic/rubber already being made

[fiery pewter]

You have to deal with it anyway, and making fabric, plastic and rubber is more useful than sinking polymer resin

[coral marsh]

The world production of power is around 400PwHrs

[last bluff]

exactly

[ebon fossil]

AWESOME sinks use a lot of power?

[warm finch]

making resin? yes. great way to make initial rubber/plastic and then use recycled alt recipes to make MORE of them.

Also a byproduct of making HOR anyways

[coral marsh]

Polymer resin has a SHIT point value, its 12

[fiery pewter]

30 mw each

[sharp basin]

I mean I just have to put the right number on my machines, no need for smart splitters or anything?

[ebon fossil]

thats nothing?

[hollow lance]

Well, if you're in phase one on bio burners, it's noticable.

[fiery pewter]

Smart splitters wouldn't be of much help

[warm finch]

I was being facetious.

[fiery pewter]

1 biomass burner

[ebon fossil]

fair enough im running off fuel and coal so

[last bluff]

using kWh? what do you mean, in total thorough history? and does that imply pre-electric like steam machines are not counted?

[fiery pewter]

Uh huh

[coral marsh]

Omg, Hang on

[sharp basin]

Yeah but you see my point about how the iron will be distributed?

[hollow lance]

It's typical to have producers set to produce a bit more product than is needed by consuming machines. If they make "too much", they just stop running for a while. Not a problem.

[feral snow]

probably means 400 pwh per day?

[last bluff]

I wonder how many calories the earth is now

[coral marsh]

The value sits at around 29 thousand TwHrs a year

[feral snow]

a lot. i ate a bunch of it and I got fat

[fiery pewter]

You're just going to have to do some very specific clocking, merging and splitting (or just a manifold) to get what you want

[fiery pewter]

The couple tons of uranium:

[coral marsh]

So I was way off, but its still the 29Petawatts

[sharp basin]

OK I’ll try

[last bluff]

😋

[feral snow]

29 pwh per annum

does that count radishes

[coral marsh]

Fun fact: NZ still uses hydroelectric, wind and geothermal energy, we havent and wont ever use nuclear

[feral snow]

congratulations you're just like 85% of developed countries

[sharp basin]

I usually just manifold

[fiery pewter]

So many countries don't use nuclear tbh

[coral marsh]

Any need to be a smartass?

[last bluff]

Fun fact: EU is stuck in tier 5 burning oil (though in most cases you'd call it regressed)

[fiery pewter]

Nah we just dislike losing money going climate friendly

[feral snow]

germans rejecting evil nuclear power (it makes hazardous waste!) to burn 50 bajillion tons of coal

[hollow lance]

The only problems with nuclear is the insane costs and the insane amount of time it takes to build them. At least, in the U.S.

[last bluff]

which doesn't make hazardous waste

yipee

[feral snow]

is you stupid?

[fiery pewter]

Here in the Netherlands we have a nuclear facility to make medicine and stuff

[warm finch]

be nice

[last bluff]

bold of you to assume what I find nice

[hollow lance]

I like Heinlein's suggestion for nuclear waste....

[fiery pewter]

Greenhouse gasses aren't exactly waste

[last bluff]

you just put them in the lizard doggo, you push the lizard doggo off the map

it's not that complicated

[feral snow]

they are, and they're far more harmful waste than nuclear waste.

[fiery pewter]

People: CO2 bad!

Methane:

[ebon fossil]

Alright, so my capacity is 3,850mw, my max consumsion is 6943.1mw, normal consumsion is like 2k mw, boost power is 350mw,then if i turn on my fuel power plant my capacity goes to 7975 mw [still building my fuel power plant, iv got like 1/4 of it built] would you guys say its worth deleting my coal power plant [loosing 3850] for a while and upgrade my coal power plant and possibly making it three times the current size and output? 3(3850) after iv finished my fuel power plant?

[hollow lance]

Actually, a lot of greenhouse gasses are indeed byproducts - transportation emissions, factory burn-off, leakage, etc.

[last bluff]

imagine a hybrid nuclear coal powerplant

nuclear smog

[feral snow]

chornobyl

[warm finch]

nah. keep the coal plants as is, expand your fuel plants until you unlock rocket fuel and get nitro rocket fuel

[ebon fossil]

isnt that the next phase though?

iv gotta build the farms for the phase i havnt even touched that yet

[warm finch]

phase 4. the return on coal plants are not worth the effort of redoing it completely if you're already dropping down fuel gens which do 250mw

[hollow lance]

I'm sure you have untapped coal nodes. I wouldn't tear down an old coal plant ... unless that's more convenient that tapping a new node.

[last bluff]

I just realized, you can use a conveyor hole and a dead bird to play golf

[coral marsh]

pulse nobelisk for long drives?

[spare prism]

bro wtf my power stuff is blowing again

[feral snow]

uhhm, ok

[last bluff]

anything should be allowed because good luck

[ebon fossil]

Nope all coal nodes in a 2km range has been taken + this old coal power plant was really inefficent due to conveyor limits iv got 8 t2 conveyors transporting all the coal using mk1 miners it would cost me barely anything to make the miners mk2 and t4 conveyors and just adding more coal power plants and a few more water extractors

[gloomy tusk]

nuke?

[next ivy]

train doing 250km/h

[west jackal]

my dog is so annoying, he gets mad when i stay up playing satisfactory when hes ready for bed 😠

he sits there groaning and making noises till i go to bed

[warm finch]

enjoy it while you can. I miss my dog doing that 😭

[coral marsh]

@stark blade its a mod, thats actually a 15x15x15 blueprint designer, its mk12

[stark blade]

ah ok'

thanks 👍

[coral marsh]

Its op as fk, but also fun

[stark blade]

yeah definitialy looks it

[coral marsh]

I do however, believe that the cost to build one is ridiculously fkin cheap

[stark blade]

would be so useful to me if i knew how to add mods :/

[coral marsh]

Satisfactory mod manager

[stark blade]

is another app?

[coral marsh]

Software, download it on pc

Mods only work on pc

[stark blade]

slight problem

the pc i use to play satisfactory aint mine

[coral marsh]

Then dont

Wait till you have your own

[stark blade]

thanks for the info tho

[coral marsh]

All goods

[stark blade]

if u check screenshots rq i show u the problem i have

idk why but that meme is so funny

[flint fjord]

Is there a way to deactivate the warning messages when booting the game? I didn't have them before, so loading the game takes like three times longer to start now.

[stark blade]

press spacebar or smth as far as im aware

or just mash keys untill it skips

i know there is a way to do it but i forgot what key it is :/

[flint fjord]

There must be another way 😫 I keep smashing my entire keyboard and nothing happens hahah

[stark blade]

😭

[west jackal]

finally got this mug done, dont have to rely on batteries

pipe flow rate is weird, factory producing 300 and consuming 300, flow goes from 200 to 500 and back donw

its at 100% effeciency atm, but still weird

[warm finch]

as long as it's full, don't worry about flow rate

[sterile blade]

Check out how fast machines' input or output inventories are filled or emptied of fluid as they complete production cycles. That should make sense of the speeds of flow you observe

[gloomy tusk]

Vecnam

you are a cultured person correct

well i assume everyone is that is here considering they play satisfactory

[warm finch]

quite the opposite lol.

[gloomy tusk]

what

are you drunk again

[wraith lark]

[next ivy]

🍍

[warm finch]

god the ratio from diluted fuel to turbo fuel SUUUUUUCKS

[snow apex]

?

[snow apex]

Welcome

[warm finch]

hmmm, should I just do turbo fuel from HOR (numbers are cleaner) or suck it up and do turbo fuel from diluted fuel for MOAR rocket fuel?

I'll do it from HOR, screw it. doing it tomorrow. time for bed

[next ivy]

hor screw ?
yea they do that

[spare prism]

I like DNA points I'm getting so many tickets woooo

[sterile blade]

I find them too sub to be "da way"...
||Ie: no||

Ngl, my appreciation for fast-food has rapidly declined the past decade or so...

Home-made stuff tastes just that much better

[zenith pecan]

I generally avoid fast food as well, considering I could eat for multiple days for the price of one, yeah, there is like no cost/benefit.

[sterile blade]

Part of the benefit is not having to cook/clean. Still not worth it most of the time, imo

[zenith pecan]

I had to laugh when I onlined my aluminium products factory again, it produces 50% more, it's less than half the size and is one floor, not two vs my old save 🤣

[zenith pecan]

Cooking doesn't take that long and cleaning I do pretty much automatically so no real loss there.

I'm only using half of the aluminium ingots I'm producing though, the other half are on standby for when I hit the nuclear project and in case I need to burn materials in a converter.

Afk for a few, gonna hit the bath before work.

[zenith pecan]

Missed by a mile 😛 , I'm English.

[elder skiff]

Forgive me if im stupid, is there any reason to not use your shards and sloops on your power infrastructure?

[fiery pewter]

Byproducts yes, but not always waste

[next ivy]

shards are best used to actually get more ore from the ground

sloops in actually expensive production

[fiery pewter]

Idk if you can even sloop power infrastructure, unless you're talking amplification, but the only thing shards do is making it so you have to build less

[haughty bear]

Hey! I'm new in this server.

[sterile blade]

I think the only valid reason would be having better uses for them (which depends on your preferences ofc ^^)

[fiery pewter]

Haiiii

[haughty bear]

HAIIIIII

[sterile blade]

Tbf, if you have the shards aviable, it's worth using them on everything (unless one enjoys having more machines rather than less for some reason )

[next ivy]

personally no

power is a huge problem for most new players

[haughty bear]

Are you have collected all MER

[next ivy]

and slooping everything is gonna make that 10x worse

when you get to the point where neither power nor the shards themselfes are a problem anymore
then sure, go ham

no reason not to

[sterile blade]

I just mentioned shards. That's a +35% increase in power max. How hard that is to achieve is just user preference (ie: being used to building decent or overkill powerplants)

[zenith pecan]

No kill like overkill for powerplants 🙂

[next ivy]

power increase is not linear

[zenith pecan]

When I get back in from work I'll resume spamming particle accelerators.

[next ivy]

probably wrong term

[sterile blade]

But it still has a max, which is below 35% (without slooping)

[fiery pewter]

Fully overclocked and zooped?

[zenith pecan]

Clocked yes, but even with the duplicates on my map, I'd sooner be conservative with sloops.

I have four sloops reserved for when I re-online sing cell production.

I'm currently spinning coal nodes into diamonds.

[sterile blade]

Just use them and place a big billboard to avoid forgetting where you put them

[zenith pecan]

I think there are fifteen sloops I haven't re-farmed after the 1.0 repops 🤣

Using them on pasta & singularities makes the most sense for me.

[elder skiff]

Dimensional depots are awesome

Its like a whole other game

[normal orbit]

They fixed the biggest issue with satisfactory imo

[willow pond]

did they get rid of the jetpack hog?

[tall lantern]

no, just as rare as ever

[grim ermine]

When is satisfactory 2 releasing

[tall lantern]

depends when you go to sleep, because it's in your dreams 😛

[grim ermine]

Ahhh ok. Thanks

[willow pond]

my bet is they'll skip over it and go straight to Satisfactory 3

[sharp basin]

You think a 11x11 fondations factory will be enough for all 3 Phase 2 elevator products (minimum production)?

[grim ermine]

Potentially

[sharp basin]

1 floor per product

[grim ermine]

Easily

But it depends how much you wanna make

[tall lantern]

a 5x5'd be fine if you build it tall enough

[grim ermine]

If you only want one machine per item then itll easily fit

[willow pond]

ngl i never plan that far ahead

[sharp basin]

Just the minimum

Like 5 versatile frameworks/min, etc…

[grim ermine]

Easily

[sharp basin]

Perfect

[obsidian zodiac]

hello gamers, its a beautiful day to sit in front of the PC

[normal orbit]

No just a 1 in 1000 chance to spawn in any alpha hog spawn

He usually just offs himself and you just find the jetpack somewhere :p

I've found two jetpacks on the ground. Never actually seen johnny

[spare prism]

How do blueprints work

i wanna drag a factory into my game

[next ivy]

if you want to use blueprints from somewhere off the internet, you have to download the files and put them in the blueprint folder

[spare prism]

okay now if you dont have stuff to build it will it tell you?

[next ivy]

it will tell you how many materials it will take, and how many youre missing if any while deploying

[spare prism]

oh nice

wait when do you unlock blueprints

[next ivy]

like tier 2

or was it 3

fairly early

[green fiber]

Tier 4 i think

[next ivy]

imported blueprints might still work even if you dont have it unlocked

i hate how the stages are named in satisfactory

[spare prism]

im completed 1-2 im doing phase 1 now to get 3-4 unlocked

[next ivy]

like
"stage"
"phase"
"tier"

you basically have to just remember which is which

[spare prism]

yea

[next ivy]

cause theres no indicator

"tier 4" is mk1 blueprints

[spare prism]

oh

[next ivy]

#screenshots message

tier 4 which is really tier 5

cause the list is 0 indexed

ffs

[spare prism]

oh lol

[next ivy]

see how many people you can confuse by saying there are 10 tiers

[carmine ginkgo]

man i hate pipes. im trying to get a steady aluminiun production going but my refinery just keeps going idle. it needs 480m3 alumina and my other refinerys are making 600m3 alimina but it doesnt feed it fast enough so it keeps stopping

[dense violet]

did you merge teh waste water into the fresh?

[carmine ginkgo]

yes i did

my mk2 pipe also is constanly half full

even tho i make 600m3

flow is 300 for some reason

[dense violet]

yeah so fluids are bidirectional, directly feeding waste into fresh is a fiddly and unreliable method

come to #math-and-meta

[next ivy]

valve only allowing as much water in as needed

[dense violet]

valves are also a terrible way to direct feed waste into fresh

[reef basin]

flow 300 is something different than "half full"

[green fiber]

You likely have a mk 1 pipe somewhere where it shouldnt be then

[carmine ginkgo]

omg

i found a small mk1 in a pump

you are right

[green fiber]

classic

[normal orbit]

Don't place buildables on pipes :o

[green fiber]

Actually you can, just dont upgrade pipes afterwards

It will be a mess

[normal orbit]

It's not a good idea since the game cuts the pipes incorrectly

[carmine ginkgo]

god bless you lmao. its running smooth now

[green fiber]

Not that it matters much.
Yes the pipe is bigger if you snap stuff to the pipe but that just means it will hold more.

[carmine ginkgo]

how am i so stupid

[spare prism]

Fiscit reminds you to drink coffee to keep your mind sharp

[normal orbit]

Since pipes go into the buildable halfway they sometimes decide to ignore the buildable and just go from one pipe to the other

[green fiber]

Ive never really had that happen.
What can happen is that you can miss the pipe and instead place the buildable on the floor

And then it looks like its on the pipe

[normal orbit]

If you place buildable first that won't happen at all. You can delete and rebuild pipes, but small chance a lil piece is stuck inside

[green fiber]

When it really is on the floor

That only becomes dangerous if you snap stuff near the ends / connection points of 2 pipes

Thats how you get thise tiny pipes that hide from you when you upgrade the pipe for example

Just out of principle i never build pipe attachments near connection points

Its the same deal with belts

[carmine ginkgo]

faceit said i need to drink water cause ive been busy

[smoky flame]

Took me about combined 5 hours to model phase 3 material costs in satisfactory modeler, and gosh I can't imagine how long it took for someone just going raw in the game

[next ivy]

less

[brittle dune]

I mean some people just wing it

I know a friend of mine with a horrendous world

[reef basin]

could use Tools and it would take you 2 minutes

[carmine ginkgo]

To get through phase 3 took me like 2 weeks

Rebuild my factory so many times. Constant fuses so had to build big generator plants

[next ivy]

even a single machine making the beams it would take less than a day
wtf did you do

[reef basin]

well, the "rebuilding" is probably part of why it took you so long. You should just build new and keep old

[smoky flame]

I'm not surprised at all, it's a huge project, and especially if you want to design it well

[carmine ginkgo]

I just got to phase 4 and j can't imagine how long it will take me to finish this😭😭

[next ivy]

im really excited for the pasta

first time getting that far

[carmine ginkgo]

I'll send you my cursed spaghetti factories later today

[next ivy]

the nuclear pasta

[carmine ginkgo]

Everything is spaghetti

But it somewhat works efficient for me.

[smoky flame]

I can't be the only one who thinks Encased Industrial Beam looks like a block of butter

[next ivy]

#screenshots message
in terms of spaghetti, well...

[carmine ginkgo]

"exotic butter"

[next ivy]

its got c4 vibes

[carmine ginkgo]

Omfg

[spare prism]

what is ONB in the mam?

[next ivy]

should i mention it has balancers built in ?
cuz fuck manifolds

[carmine ginkgo]

No hate on manifolds, it works great for me

Tho my factory is pretty big (for me) and flat cause I stuck at building up

[next ivy]

#screenshots message
well thats the great thing about these, you can just stack them on top of each other

that pic is like 4 on top of each other

total production 40 motors pm

[last bluff]

This is not good advice but I like building up for separate processing of everything with multiple outputs, and down for loops and feeding

[last bluff]

Do they zigzag? Oh no

[next ivy]

zigzag ?

[last bluff]

Going to one end and back

[carmine ginkgo]

I need to start using the blueprint thing more so make it easier to make factories

[next ivy]

the inputs are on the front, the orange part
the output would be anywhere you want, currently its setup to autoconnect the output to the above and below factories

[spare prism]

Is there a way to see friends ms on your world to them?

[next ivy]

if thats what you meant by zigzag

[last bluff]

How do you connect vertically?

[next ivy]

you dont wanna know 💀

[green fiber]

ping essentially? Not really i think

[next ivy]

#screenshots message

simplefied version, and it is quite bullshit

theres probably easier ways

[fiery pewter]

Wdym

[spare prism]

I died and it said unresearched ONB idk what tho

[next ivy]

modded ?

[spare prism]

oh i found it

[orchid zinc]

Work is struggling, i want to build factories 🥲

[fiery pewter]

Relatable

Idk why people keep replying 🇧 🇴 🇴 🇧 in #satisfactory-memes , but it kinda annoying

[proven snow]

That’s what me and my buddy call it at least

[broken valve]

Hey, i have some questions about Mercer spheres, can i tell them here or in spoiler channel ?

[ornate saffron]

Is it story based if so spoiler

[broken valve]

Its not

[ornate saffron]

Theb here should be fine

[broken valve]

Basicaly i saw that you need sphere to build dimensional dépôt, but since there is only a limited number of them, is it worth it to upgrade the upload things and stuff like this ?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[dense violet]

there's more mercer spheres than you can realistically use

[broken valve]

Oh ok

[fiery pewter]

And reverse in loops no?

[dense violet]

duping mechanics are dumb , I think theres 100% too many of them

[broken valve]

There is no risk of just not having merces sphere to build a depot at each factory ?

[dense violet]

no you can have many depots for each item type

or ast least multiple

[next ivy]

its only gonna speed it up tho, not make the buffer bigger, right ?

[broken valve]

Ok thx !

[fiery pewter]

Yes

Buffer stays the same

You can only increase upload speed with multiples

#screenshots message logistics department cooking fr

[ornate saffron]

Other then mam upgrades obviously

The average player can often make do with only a few select parts with multiple depot inputs.

[proven snow]

Hm, that does not look like spaghetti

[fiery pewter]

Don't make me hungry...

[twin parcel]

i dont know mate , be unemployed and explore the entire map or u know just use the bug . most people gonna use the latter .

[frozen cloud]

is there a way to use stat in the debug console with different commands
i wanna use stat SceneRendering but only fps and unit seem to work

[fiery pewter]

Terrible assumption

[reef basin]

yeah why abuse bugs

[fiery pewter]

I will tell you that most people won't even use all of the sloops, slugs and spheres

[dense violet]

if you're talking about hypter tube cannons, that's a different thing

I also think that exploit is dumb as it's very easy to cross the map

[fiery pewter]

I think they talking duping sloops

[dense violet]

dupping dupping is also dumb

[twin parcel]

duping sloops and mercer spheres

[proven snow]

Launching with them is a bit much yea

[dense violet]

it's not hard to get across the map as it is

[twin parcel]

well its a single player game , people play however they like and its up to dev whether they wanna remove the bugs or do some balancing to encourage players to scout for them .

[unkempt blade]

People should play how they want but I just thought it was adorable he seems to think duping sloops is going to remove the main timesink in this game

[tall lantern]

much easier to just save edit the items in than mess with dupe bugs (unless console obviously)

[dense violet]

My main issue is that people just whined about it so much they left the exploit it.

But I can also think things are dumb in single player games. Shocking, I know.

[reef basin]

at that point just save-edit instead of duping

[ornate saffron]

I just find duping unnecessary. You can just turn on advanced game options and give yourself a stack.

But to each there own

[dense violet]

who said that would remove the time sink?

oh do you mean the trapsing across the map? yeah that doesn't take long

[unkempt blade]

the "unemployed" line did 🙂

[fiery pewter]

True

[twin parcel]

from my experience , not all mercer sphere place are easy . some are easy , some place have an army of green hogs and spitters , and u dont know the difficulty .

[fiery pewter]

If you're gonna cheat, do it the intended way

[fiery pewter]

But it isn't supposed to be all easy

Otherwise it wouldn't be funny

Funny?

[unkempt blade]

just get a jetpack, nothing about this game is very difficult it's mostly just time consuming

[fiery pewter]

Enjoyable

[reef basin]

and you don't need all spheres 🙂

[next ivy]

not hard but slow

[fiery pewter]

Not in the slightest

[next ivy]

so what if theres a way to to improve both

[fiery pewter]

Early game, yes

But mid game you got everything

[next ivy]

at what % of the game do you get portals

[fiery pewter]

Hypertubes, ziplines, trains, trucks

[fiery pewter]

Tier 9

But portals kinda overrated

[next ivy]

are they not the fastest mode of transportation though

[fiery pewter]

Yes

Also the most power and resource draining

[next ivy]

and is a hypertube cannon not faster that all of those named alternatives

[fiery pewter]

Yes

But I named hypertubes no?

[next ivy]

where is your point

[fiery pewter]

I mean, you could also use pulse nobs and a factory cart to move

Is it fast?

Yesn't

[next ivy]

is it easily repeatable

[fiery pewter]

That is not slow to move around the map

[fiery pewter]

Yesn't

As long as you don't fall off the map

[next ivy]

we got parachutes

[fiery pewter]

True

[twin parcel]

u dont know which spot is easy or hard , so its either u get screwed or got lucky unless u wait till mid game .

[glacial drum]

Adding onto this

• 298 total spheres on the map
• 97 used in MAM
• 201 remain for free use

[proven snow]

Once you unlock nobelisks I wouldn’t say any enemies are really hard

[glacial drum]

Hardest part is dodging em atp

Huh it would take 625 depots each receiving 4 concrete/min to near instantly always have your DD full

(at max upgrades)

[reef basin]

or you just grab and run

[twin parcel]

it works , sometimes it doesnt .

[reef basin]

skill issue

[deft drum]

I found combat uninteresting so I just made everything passive

[twin parcel]

i bring nobelisk with and place around , if managed to lure them nearby the nobelisk , i just kaboom .

[next ivy]

both combat and collecting stuff is just annoying

at a certain point

[glacial drum]

The worst part about combat for me is now being scared of meowing.

[next ivy]

i would do it once properly
every other save i would just cheat it in

[reef basin]

which is fine, we have AGS exactly for that purpose

[twin parcel]

use ladder as ur shield and kaboom them

[glacial drum]

Oh I just use my ionized jetpack with nuke nobelisks

Not taking a damn chance

Thankfully, none of my 7 cats meow at the same pitch or tone that the spider cats do.

[twin parcel]

bro upgraded his fear of spider into fear of cats .

[glacial drum]

My Hub is in the green fields right above a spider cave too

So I just hear them whenever I’m planning stuff out and checking storage

Once I’ve made my 1TW storage I plan to setup a proper “hub” area

Hang on

The object limit is what on console? Half of pc at 1 mil?

[deft drum]

Why make central storage when you have DDs?

[glacial drum]

No real reason. Just to have fun and build stuff I think would be cool. I’ve already finished the game anyways.

for weeks i’ve thought of a 1 tw power storage project but if the object limit can’t be changed on ps5 maybe I should not do that lol

[deft drum]

Fair enough

"Line must go up syndrome" is real

[next ivy]

-# measuring storage in watt 👀

[deft drum]

Watt else would you use?

[unkempt blade]

Ooh ooh I vote for this one. It sounds by far the most fun

[unkempt blade]

joules

[reef basin]

unit that actually coresponds to energy

[tall lantern]

how many calories is that battery power storage

[next ivy]

yummy value

[unkempt blade]

somewhere around 78,000 big mac value meals per power storage unit

[next ivy]

[autumn path]

A watt is literally a measurement of energy over time.

[reef basin]

hence why it cannot be used as a measurement of energy stored