satisfactory

[bleak valley]

To finish phase 3 I had a single machine making the parts at like 2 pm

I slooped it and waited twenty minutes

[jagged nymph]

why not 1200 hmf/m

[ivory zinc]

@wary sonnet since you mentioned alts.

[tranquil saffron]

show us in screenshots i want to see the dedication

[bleak valley]

I’ll boot up the game real quick and grab a few then

I have a main factory in my starting area then a steel and aluminum one that get brought in with trains currently

[weak bloom]

The dilemma I have (I just started phase 4) is whether I want to think about the space elevator parts now, or just not think about it until I've done all the milestones and then deal with it then.....

Like I have the phase 3 parts automated over by crater lake (excluding the adaptive control unit, I just manually did those to finish phase 3). But will those be enough for phase 4? Can I just drone them over to a new facility to assemble phase 4 parts or do I want to set up a bigger line for the previous components than I currently have?

[jagged nymph]

id say plan for it somewhat, but you dont need to start on it now. Also, i would automate ACU's, even just a small amount cause you need them for assembly director systems, then you need assembly director systems for biochemical sculptors

[weak bloom]

I have 20/min versatile framework and 5/min modular engine right now.
Also 10/min automated wiring I think.
I can ship those out once I get drones and automate ACUs and the rest downstream, but I'm not sure if that will be enough of these base components

[jagged nymph]

why not bring em over with trains, or even trucks

[weak bloom]

Yeah trains too but I need to think more about how to set up my train network, will definitely work on that this phase

[bleak valley]

Done

I can also grab pics of my steel and aluminum but those are pretty small

[weak bloom]

Point is I'm not sure whether I want to build more production of the phase 3 elevator parts to buffer against phases 4 and 5 or not

[tranquil saffron]

very clean, i like how u got diagonal platforms going too

[bleak valley]

Yeah just unfortunate I can’t place walls on those

I wanted a big window

[tranquil saffron]

are you using the CTRL snap for platforms at all?

and just making diagonal also?

[bleak valley]

I probably should but no I didn’t use the world grid

[tranquil saffron]

yea it looks kinda cool with that unique spacing

[low ingot]

I made this mistake of the 1st 2 playthrough, I use the world grid now, so convenient lol just makes it look weird sometimes on initial planning cause it doesn't go exactly the way you want it

[bleak valley]

I do like having my little platforms of stuff scattered around yeah

[jagged nymph]

i snap everything to world grid unless i know for sure im not connecting it to anything else

[bleak valley]

I mean none of my things are really connected apart from the conveyer lines taking copper parts to the iron line

[ornate saffron]

I often use the world grid unless I want to follow the terran. Then I follow the terran.

[bleak valley]

Honestly I’m most proud of my steel factory it looks so beautiful

I got the iron from the cliff above so it’s almost like a waterfall coming down to the factory

[jagged nymph]

#design-and-architecture message
opinions on my train spiral?

[bleak valley]

That is really nice

[jagged nymph]

im gonna go back and look at what my first save looked like

[tranquil saffron]

yea the game gets really fun when you star using the foundry to make more complex stuff... still needs a roof tho

[jagged nymph]

thanks

[bleak valley]

The skill people have with building is awesome

[jagged nymph]

i dont usually try to build good looking stuff lol

[bleak valley]

I don’t know how to decorate well so I’m using open concept factories lmao

[jagged nymph]

thats the first blueprint ive made for aesthetics

[ornate saffron]

@bleak valley

Thoughts about your screen shot.

Don't upgrade your facility. Leave it as is.

If you want more then that facility produces just upgrade the miner throw a smart splitter infront setting. New line to overflow. Send the ore to a new facility.

This gets around the bad feeling of changing or dismantling your old facility.

It also preserves it so you can see your growth as a player.

[bleak valley]

I’m a Minecraft builder so I really like decorating but I’m not very great at it lol

[tranquil saffron]

a roof is not decoration

[weak bloom]

Yeah I'm keeping my machines organized and neat but all my factories just have no walls or ceilings except multiple floors right now lmao. I'll go back and turn them into real buildings later

[jagged nymph]

my god what is this save i just loaded up

holy shit this is terrible what was i thinking

[bleak valley]

I actually never thought of doing a splitter like that. Very helpful tip thank you

I’ve been fighting the urge to start a new save since I know I’m not very far into the game

[jagged nymph]

why is there just 2 mk1 belts going into 4 storage crates 😭

WHY IS THERE A SINGLE COAL GEN WITH A 500m LONG PIPE GOING TO WATER

[bleak valley]

Now that’s peak

[jagged nymph]

why do i have imkibitz old save from pre 1.0

[tranquil saffron]

reminds me of when i used to source my resources naturally ... yikes, spaghetti

[jagged nymph]

and why is it taking so long to load up

[tranquil saffron]

unless u wanna use all drones

[ornate frost]

all of my factories look like unfinished apartment buildings lmao

concrete is a fantastic resource

[jagged nymph]

all my factories look like a concrete slab with machiens on it

[ornate saffron]

A good chunk of bad feelings is the self pushed need for efficiency. So I have tried to think of way to avoid that ^-^.

[weak bloom]

I used to be like this. Then, thanks to the glory of the awesome shop....
All my factories now look like a COATED concrete slab with machines on it! 🙃

[tranquil saffron]

my factories look like beautifully erected temples to the machine spirit, i'll have to post some screens soon

after i build a world with like 20 massive christmas trees and 20 nuclear plants, and then another world with a perfectly symmetrical modular motor factory i needed a break

i have to say the place with the arch waterfall is probably my favorite place to build, a lot of cool places around there

[bleak valley]

I’m glad this discord exists none of my friends are interested in the game but I’ve been dying to talk about it :D

And now I’m getting tips from pros lol

[ornate saffron]

As long as we all can understand its a sandbox game any there is a many of ways to approach the task at hand its a great community

[jagged nymph]

the only way to play is to make everything 100% efficient and perfectly use every resource on the map. Fiscsit does not waste

[magic void]

whats everyones favorite method of early travel?

[last mason]

Power lines

With the thingy from the catering research tree

[magic void]

Not sure what youre talking about tbh

How can you travel on power lines?

[bleak valley]

The zip line is awesome

[last mason]

With the golden zip line thing from caterium* research tree

Stupid phone

[magic void]

Oh ok, do you need to place the power lines then one end higher than the other?

[mortal ginkgo]

early travel? all time travel is zipline. Because zipline is cool.

[bleak valley]

Nope it’s powered so doesn’t matter the incline

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont like hypertubes... zipline is where its at 🙂‍↕️

Ziplines should be mandatory, a must. 🙂‍↕️

[last mason]

Nope

[magic void]

Awesome so do you just make a stair case up to the power tower?

[mortal ginkgo]

People who dont use ziplines should be forced to download Windows 11

[last mason]

There is one with a ladder

[last mason]

Nooooooooooo

[magic void]

Oh the platform one?

Power tower platform?

[bleak valley]

Yup

Comes with a ladder

[last mason]

And normal powerlines

[magic void]

Thanks I hadnt even looked at it that closely

[last mason]

Zip line in anything with a power line

[magic void]

Awesome thanks yall, saves me driving 3000m for some oil

[bleak valley]

Power towers make the zip line even better since you can right click and be locked onto the line

[last mason]

You can scale cliffs with it also

[ornate saffron]

Ziplining on power towers. I rush power towers.

[bleak valley]

Hyper tube cannons are fun now that I’ve experienced one

[magic void]

I must be missing out nearly everyone recommended them.

[ornate saffron]

Vomit cannons for some of us lol

[magic void]

I've seen cannon launchers on youtube, you need a jetpack to break your fall or is there another item you can use?

[last mason]

Very sad you need a Jjetpack to survive

[sinful roost]

You guys don't make sidewalks and use the walk key to rp?

[last mason]

Yes or those green things but you need a jet pack

[magic void]

Ok thanks, is fuel ok for the jetpack or should i rush turbofuel instead?

[woven vector]

question. Water + coal combo can produce max 600MW? Or i can make it bigger to have more

[dense temple]

depends on how much coal you have, i make 2400 with coal

[woven vector]

i have 4 coal mines if thats what ur asking

[dense temple]

also, iis it me or do the kitty faces not make the spiders any less terrifying

[woven vector]

how many MW can i get out of 4 coal mines?

[sinful roost]

Hey everyone! This guy is afraid of kittys!

[dense temple]

depends on the purity of the node, the miiner on it and overclock rates

[woven vector]

idk whats overclock on this game

[normal orbit]

I use liquid biofuel until I get packaged ionized

[mortal ginkgo]

75 x 4

[dense temple]

you'll figure that out along the way, do you know how node purity works?

[magic void]

Ok, you also must package the biofuel?

[normal orbit]

Yah

[woven vector]

but im getting 600MW from it

[normal orbit]

Can't have it on you otherwise

[woven vector]

so that dont make sense

[low ingot]

each overclocked generrator produces 137.5 MW of power i think

[woven vector]

i have 4 coal mines, 4 water extractors + 8 coal generators

[ornate saffron]

Parachute

[woven vector]

making 600MW

[dense temple]

you can definitely get more out of that

[bleak valley]

One coal miner can power four gens on its own iirc

[normal orbit]

187.5. 75 * 2.5

[zenith pecan]

The ground breaks the fall too (and if full hp you don't die 🤣 )

[woven vector]

so i should have double? 16 coal generators and keep 4 water extractors?

[ornate saffron]

Bio fuel gives the slowest speed but greatest height.

For the most part its preference. I like rocket fuel

[sharp basin]

That’s it, I made it! Automated everything except for the 3 Phase 2 elevator products so I’ll get to Phase 3 soon! My steel factory/1200 MW coal plant now produces steel beams/steel pipes/encased industrial beams/rotors/motors/stators/modular frames, but everything is at very small scale if you see what I mean (5, 10, max 20 per item, depends on the product), but at least, everything’s automated. BIG STEP!

[weak bloom]

Overclocking generators is not worth imo, all it saves on is space

[elfin smelt]

gotta say that I love how, in early game the map felt sooooo sooooo big, but now that my factories and buildings span some quilometers and how theres a lot of them, specially rail way tracks, and with jetpack/hoberpack, everything feels like 10 times small now

[normal orbit]

Biofuel have longest burn time in jetpack

[weak bloom]

And space is basically infinite

[normal orbit]

It doesn't give greatest height

[woven vector]

will you unlock better power generators levling up?

[weak bloom]

Yes

[ornate saffron]

You can also make compact coal which has longer burn rates.

Generally speaking people rush to coal to get off biomass. Then rush oil to get off coal.

[woven vector]

which tier ?

[normal orbit]

Yah. Coal then fuel then nuclear

Phase 2, 3 and 4

[woven vector]

im currently doing phase 2 of the ship

[ornate saffron]

My nitro rocket fuel needs 480 fuel generators set to 240%

Time and space management is the key factors for the overclocking

[woven vector]

so after i do phase 2 i get the oil right?

[normal orbit]

In phase 3 yes

[woven vector]

nice

[sharp basin]

Problem is design. I don’t make PLANS, you know, I build machines as they come. I’d like to get to the point like all my ressources are centralized, for exemple. Haven’t reach that point yet.

[elfin smelt]

coal is great and all because it is finally automated, but the power generated is pretty lame compared to oil

[woven vector]

wait oil won't be fully automated?

[elfin smelt]

oil will be too

[ornate saffron]

it will be. the gains for oil is huge

[elfin smelt]

I was comparing to biomass

[woven vector]

ah

[ornate saffron]

it makes coal look like childs play

[normal orbit]

When it comes to liquids. Overclocking also helps cause smaller manifolds are easier to manage. Feeding 60 fuel gens is easier than 144.

[low ingot]

biomass farm never gets old

[elfin smelt]

your coal will be better used for steel and other stuff in the future instead of coal gens

[low ingot]

just take a stroll get some wood come back and throw a somersloop in there

[sharp basin]

May be I should finish my decoration and show you a little video! 😊

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean sometimes they get stuck around and all you guys are hearing is constant meowing. I simply overexposured myself to get use to the big variants as I hunted for orbs etc which in return I got PTSD but got use to them bois 😄

[elfin smelt]

so yeah don't worry about making a big coal plant because the effort will be much better spent on making a big oil to fuel plant

just make it big enough to support your for the time being

at least from my experience

(Saying that because I made a big ass 28 coal gens power plant that I kinda regret now)

[abstract heron]

@void gorge Feel better and is there a video this Friday and Don't Forget some people have time change this weekend

[ornate frost]

I've made several large coal plants on the account of... they look really cool

[weak bloom]

I made a 48 gen coal plant in the lake next to the grass fields and still have it running even though I'm mainly on fuel now. But I might turn it off soon to use the coal for other stuff

[ornate saffron]

On average I make 32 coal generators. 4 sets of 8

[normal orbit]

I usually do 2 nodes so 16 coal gens. Then with MK2 miner and T3 belts double it to 32. Enough power to fuel :)

[ornate saffron]

You idea of big will change as you play. Especially when you start using manufacturers

[elfin smelt]

the thing is that I made these coal plants when I already had oil gens

I wish I had used that time on them instead

[ornate saffron]

@elfin smelt

All this is for 17 parts a minute and the 850 copper ingots are crafted elsewhere

#math-and-meta message

[ornate saffron]

Live and learn. Coal is a key lesson no one should skip

[low ingot]

how does the doggo work? ive tamed 2 but i never see them anymore

[sharp basin]

Keep them in cages!

[rancid turret]

yeah i still have 16 of my first 32 coal generators going mostly for old time's sake

[sharp basin]

Give them a strawberry and make them follow you

[rancid turret]

yeah crystal oscillators are evil

[sharp basin]

Same, 32 coal generators

Enough for now

[bleak valley]

I have 48 coal gens running

[ornate saffron]

I knew what I was getting into. Just using it as a example for factory size

[woeful meadow]

Water always makes me so god dam mad, my Mk.2 Coal generators need 720 m3 water and I give 900 m3 and they still dont run propperly HOLY

[leaden turret]

February 27th, 2026
Q&A: Will the Patch Notes Video be released before or the day of?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOkCbcu2cME&t=1855

Jason
The day of we'll have a patch notes video.

So be on the lookout for that on the 17th.

Mikael
Yes.

Which is going to be the next YouTube video in general.

YouTube will be still now until March 17 when that video drops.

[woeful meadow]

Im gonna smash my god dam Monitor

[ornate frost]

Are all your pipes that feed into the gens* level with each other?

[leaden turret]

that's not what an hdmi port is for

[woeful meadow]

ye, im gonna name myself "just a mad dude"

[rancid turret]

you came to the right place for help

show us your pipes and we'll find the problem

[bleak valley]

I’ve given up on having all green on my coal plants lol

[ornate saffron]

The game only renders what you can see.

As far as I can tell the doggo will reappear in the general location you left it but not exact. For this reason doggo can get out of cages.

I just feed every doggo I see and when I see one I feed it or just pwt it and claim the gift

[leaden turret]

vanilla players build cages
modded players use doggo houses

[woeful meadow]

hard to send a picture

[rancid turret]

my doggo has never got out of his grassy fenced off bit after hundreds of hours

[bleak valley]

I tried to have free range dogs but I lost three that way

[heavy spear]

How to make suggestions

[bleak valley]

No clue where they went lol

[rancid turret]

try other channel, #screenshots or #math-and-meta

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @leaden turret

[ornate frost]

To start their own factories, of course

[bleak valley]

I can’t wait to see how much better than me they are at organizing them

[spare prism]

Hey you seen my smart plate factory lol.

[bleak valley]

God speed Tony the lizard doggo

[ornate saffron]

Likely but you can refresh my memory. From what I remember you play modded

[rancid turret]

can't reply in screenshots but that looks fine, though piping fluids upwards can be a real pain; what's the above look like

[ornate frost]

Your generators are above the pipes, yeah? That might be the issue @woeful meadow

[spare prism]

#screenshots message

photo is a bit dark tho

[heavy spear]

They should add huge cargo planes

[spare prism]

It was a little crasy factory lol I had to split line into 3 parts bc rotors take 100 screws rn

[zenith pecan]

I'm getting set to re-online aluminium products, about time too, my void storage cans are almost out of sheets & casings 🤣

[ornate saffron]

I am not a stranger to floating platforms. Although I avoid them these days

[woeful meadow]

omg

[spare prism]

Don't worry I'll unlock walls

[heavy spear]

Like what do you mean i cant transport 20k of supercomputer a kinute from the rocky desert to my main base

[leaden turret]

if unlocks, is door, not wall, why wall have keyhole?

[woeful meadow]

why is it such a pain to play... it should be SATISFYING

[heavy spear]

Like how can i transport 20k supercomputer a minute from the exact corner od the map to the middle

[woeful meadow]

I rebuild my coalfactory for the 13 time now becasue I want it to be perfect and now REBUILDING IT AGAIN

[heavy spear]

Just double it

[rancid turret]

yeah you can make that work, I have

also that looks clean as hell

[ornate saffron]

Why not leave it be and move on to fuel?

I find my coal plant the only build i consistently remove come late game as I want all the coal for end game production

[rancid turret]

are the pipes just before the coal generators full?

[woeful meadow]

it says natrual headlift is 10 meters, I precisely messure with the perfect scalable layout AND ITS NOT WORKING

[untold zealot]

"Achievement unlocked: Move faster than 140 km/s!"
.... I was falling to my death but hey if it counts it counts!

[ornate saffron]

Are you feeding the coal generator inputs from above?

[leaden turret]

are you measuring center to center?

[woeful meadow]

it shows it in the screenshots

[woeful meadow]

I dont get that tbh

[bleak valley]

That’s exactly how I got that too lmao

[bleak valley]

Feeding from above reduces the chance of sloshing and lets gravity help fluid physics are really weird so you have to treat them differently from conveyers

[jagged nymph]

add a pump then

[woeful meadow]

its below 10 so it should work

[ornate saffron]

I mean the coal generators. Are the inputs for the coal generators fed from below? Or do you raise the pipe above the inputs then feed those inputs from above

[jagged nymph]

not neccesarily true

[leaden turret]

well if you measuring the gap between the pipes that's gonna be 10m + the radius of each pipe

[jagged nymph]

i bet itll work if you add a pump

[rancid turret]

ah yeah headlift is a uh. a guideline rather than a rule; if you're using exactly as much head lift as you have, it'll be weird

[woeful meadow]

I try with the pumps... if it dosnt work my god

[jagged nymph]

headlift doesnt work like "perfect pressure for 10 meters, after that nothing" if you measure it perfectly its probably not gonna work

[ornate frost]

Also, you might want to turn off the coal gens and let them fill up

[bleak valley]

They sent a screenshot it is being directly fed from below

[abstract heron]

Okay and some people have time change this weekend i was hoping that he was aware

[rancid turret]

#screenshots message @woeful meadow I got this working eventually but it was a pain

[woeful meadow]

it works now...

[rancid turret]

yey

[woeful meadow]

so I rebuild everything to not use pumps and now need pumps anyway... MY GOD

[rancid turret]

head lift is always worth over-speccing

you might only need one to add the required head lift

[woeful meadow]

I restored my sanity, thanks alot to you all

[ornate saffron]

Fluids are confusing as there is no way to directly see what's happening. All you can do is see averages by clicking a pipe and inferring information seen through behavior.

[woeful meadow]

now I destroy everything again to place it back as before when I used pumps...

[ornate saffron]

I have a reasonable handle on fluids only because of the plumbing guide and word of mouth and experimentation.

[rancid turret]

also fluids can hit a dead end and bounce backwards, which cuts into your throughput

[ornate frost]

Only one way to learn... my coal plant took forever to make lol

[rancid turret]

try only one pump in the system, it should add head lift to all the pipes

[ornate saffron]

Coal is a valuable but frustrating lesson.

[cold berry]

Pipes are totally working functionally and there is nothing wrong with them also there is no war in ba sing se

[woeful meadow]

but how can 1 pump on 3 seperat pipelanes pump 3 lanes

[rancid turret]

because

sorry that's all I have for you lmao

[woeful meadow]

xD

[ornate frost]

Ficsit classified technology

[bleak valley]

Fluids are something for sure

[woeful meadow]

ADA does that on purpose to get you emotionally invested

LIKE KITTENS

[normal orbit]

Fluids kinda easy. :p

[ornate saffron]

Over time you develop process and self governed rules around pipes.

For example my rules to myself are

Feed from above.

Treat max flow as theoretical

Prefill pipes as they only reach max flow when full.

Keep it simple stupid

[woeful meadow]

feeding them above looks disgusting

[jagged nymph]

but it works

[ornate saffron]

Again these are my rules for myself.

@normal orbit feels the same as you do and has ways to make it work for their setups

I like chewing on live cables

[jagged nymph]

electicrty

[woeful meadow]

Im gonna destroy FiCIT property agaIn

[normal orbit]

Junction manifold in and out. Use pumps before manifolds. Don't place buildables on pipes. If you do rebuild them. Pump assist flow.

Kinda all ya need tbh

Works for bottom feeding or top feeding

No loops

[ornate saffron]

@woeful meadow this info dump from neko is for you.

[jagged nymph]

just cover the whole pipeline with pumps so you cant even see a pixel of pipe

[ornate saffron]

More like pump lines am I right lol

[jagged nymph]

perhaps

[normal orbit]

Pipes also hit max flow that's put into em instantly. Pipevolume will take a bit to fill. Prefilling isn't needed, but can speed up warmup. It can also mask problems so what seems to work can fail after hours

[weak bloom]

Speaking of the buildable thing, if you delete a pump should you remake the pipe before putting the pump back?

[normal orbit]

If you delete a pump there should be a section missing

So you kinda need to redo the pipes to connect new one

If the pipe welded back together, you broke rule of not rebuilding pipes after placing the pump on em

[woeful meadow]

I need to do loops with MK1 pipes

or else I cant feed sufficiently

thats why I have 3 pipes for 2 pipe lanes, so the middle one feeds enough water

[bold heron]

700h into the game and i still struggle how i want to do basic builds and let them look nice.

[woeful meadow]

same with 450

and btw, I love mods so I looked for essential mods and one of the mods that gets the most hype is "SMART!"... so I use it and holy... the amount of keybind coalition is crazy and with a 70% keyboard you are fucked

Another question that involves pipes: If I pump my water up to the logisticsfloor that is below my constructions, will it have a natural headlift on that construction-floor or do I need pumps again?

[ornate saffron]

I use a 70% compressed keyboard with no issues. I have a separate numpad mind you as I cannot live without it

[woeful meadow]

yeah, I need my numpad again, its so essential for mods in any sandbox type game

[ornate saffron]

Pumps reset headlift. It is not cumulative. So you need more pumps if you run out of headlift

[woeful meadow]

so with 1 pump per pipelane, it should work... I hope

[ornate saffron]

You can get hot swappable numpads for pretty cheap. I am replacing the switches with quality ones as I have the old one die.

Min you only one switch has died over 5 years

[woeful meadow]

I use Roccat keyboards and my old Vulkan 2 broke and the 70% one was on sale

[rancid turret]

mk1 pump sets it to 20m head lift, so anything under 20m above the pump should get fluid; though I like to operate as if it's 15m because pipes are wack

[woeful meadow]

do they fix pipes in 1.2?

or are they just scuffed forever?

[ornate saffron]

we dont know. We get full patch notes on st patties day

[rancid turret]

i want to believe

[woeful meadow]

becasue I heard that you should avoid pipefloor holes too

[rancid turret]

pipe floor holes used to be straight up broken, so they have a reputation

they say fluids aren't being changed in 1.2 but they also said they weren't making a Mk6 belt for years

[normal orbit]

General rule. Once you done lifting, put another pump at level

[woeful meadow]

MK.2 Poduction would be nice, especially for performance

[wary falcon]

anyone else notice the "straight" build mode for conveyors is never straight, someetimes it angles itself, sometimes it turns awkwardly in a path that is nowhere near straight

[ornate saffron]

since my return in 1.1 i have had little issues with floor holes. A odd time they refuse to connect to a pipe and i just replace it and its good to go. Of course this is personal exerience

[woeful meadow]

ye, the belts sometimes bent

[wary falcon]

its so anoyingh 🙁

[weak bloom]

If you want to build a straight line on foundations, use default and it'll work like you expect. Then switch to straight for making nice bends

Which is to say yes you're correct but it's fairly easy to work around

[woeful meadow]

yup, true. Had that problem a few minutes ago and default works fine

[rancid turret]

straight bases straight on the starting point, which sometimes isn't perfectly straight

[weak bloom]

I think it's because the snap to foundation messes with the straight line calculation in very minor ways that can cause it to twist slightly sometimes

[woeful meadow]

the factory yearns for me but R6s update is out MAAAAAN

have a great day yall

[weak bloom]

Default mode seems to just prioritize the snap to foundation so it works fine because obviously the foundation is straight

[ornate saffron]

i find some times it is relative to what the belt is orienting itself to. For example if i clip foundations to make a curve it will choose a foundation at a odd angle to align to.

when this repeatedly happens i place two conveyor supports manually then connect

[wary falcon]

oh alr ty

[jagged nymph]

straight is meant for making perfect 90 degree turns, not straight lines

[normal orbit]

Well it's supposed to do straight lines too

Worked fine in 1.0 it's 1.1 which make em bug out every now and then

[simple pebble]

Yeah, it's because of how the game is placing conveyor poles. The game's been bugging with poles a bunch this patch

I've been resorting to placing poles before belts, which is probably the better practice anyway lol

[normal orbit]

The poles are based off of the belt

There's no issues with default and curved. So poles are fine

From what I've seen. Doing a 90 bend in the belt sometimes is like 89 instead which messes up next

Been kinda doing pre 1.0 build technique. Place belt where curve, move back two ticks

[unkempt blade]

The conveyer placement logic works perfectly. It just knows better than us where they should go

trust in the system

[weak bloom]

Ok I think my initial big plans for phase 4 are gonna be
Aluminum factory north of crater lake to kickstart the milestones
Train over the bauxite + coal + quartz from the top near the west over to the oil nodes at the west, make a big plastic + rubber + aluminum factory there
And top left desert area is for computers, radio control units, etc.

[unkempt blade]

don't forget the factory cart skatepark

[ornate saffron]

If you dont have that prephase 4 what are you even doing

[unkempt blade]

it's a minimum of 1 skatepark per phase otherwise you're playing the game wrong

[astral owl]

man, every time i try to give the game another chance, i get to space elevator stage 1 and get bored

i just got the car, it's cool but man idk if i can keep this going

[cold berry]

I'm restarting I think somewhere else on the map. I got to phase 4, but, I can do better than my current factory. May just set the outputs up to trains and use it as bonus production, keep it as is once I fix the copper and iron lines up

And house my refineries (they're currently just sitting in a field).

[unkempt blade]

What's the boring part?

[cold berry]

I started in the forest which people have told me is dumb but like, I'm doing fine IMO

Just first time player issues making me move

[fickle cape]

You start wherever you want to start, don't ever let others tell you how to play your game 🙂

[simple pebble]

North forest? That's where I started my first file, it's really good

[cold berry]

I just like trees so I ignored the warning lol. But it wasn't that hard. Granted I don't have a reference point because this is my first playground

[unkempt blade]

the only rough part about that start is it's right next to the cliff which newer players aren't really used to dealing with yet

all the starts are good though

[simple pebble]

Yeah, the tight spaces, the cliff and the verticality in general are the hard part of the forest. Resource-wise, it's one of the best

[cold berry]

? Cliff? Why would I care about a cliff lol? Dumb newbie question. I didn't notice any impending hardships from the cliff lol

[fickle cape]

At the Cliff, I just build a platform outwards then incorporate my designs around how the factory is set, but i do try to do a lot more verticality there

[unkempt blade]

makes getting up and down harder, limits buildable area a bit, that sort of stuff

compared to like rocky desert or grassy field where there aren't nearly as many terrain challenges 😆

[bold heron]

i would be cool if coffe stain released a pioneer contract as souvinir

[sour schooner]

Hey. The belt straight mode doesnt work when it should definitely work. The belt is red. Source is belt, destination is a splitter. In default mode it works. I guess, its just a bug...?

[low ingot]

default is basically straight with no extra turns, for some reason straight if its not perfectly aligned will want at least 1 "turn" which can be red in tighter spaces

[sour schooner]

its not tighter space

the belts are exactly the same in both modes

[crude canyon]

I wonder if there's any mod that adds variable demand

[untold zealot]

.... I just discovered I can dismantle the crashed pods by accident and get some pretty useful salvage and not mix up which I've opened. Auuuugh this game sometimes D:

[bold heron]

ah yeah thanks they added that

[ornate saffron]

Its nice. Although the way the game renders distance it kinda assumes you havent got the hardrives and renders in in a poor low details state. Then when you get close enough it registers you already got it and disappears.

A many of times I've gone for a crash in the distance to find out it was a illusion. Like water in the distance while wandering the desert

[bleak valley]

I’ve done that so many times

[sly delta]

what are the recommended specs for sf ?
I'm only getting a good framerate on low graphic settings

[inland fulcrum]

I just saw there's literally only 5 uranium ores in the entire game, not a single pure one.. How does that make sense? Do you just need so little for nuclear energy that its actually a lot of uranium or are we super limited with the amount of nuclear power w can generate in the first place?

[leaden turret]

#faq message

[sly delta]

oh, thanks 👍

[ornate saffron]

This is the offical but I have a feeling it hasn't been changed for ue5

#screenshots message

[leaden turret]

checks update 8 launch date

[magic void]

Whats a good spot to setup my first computer factory?

[ebon fossil]

theres 5 uranium spots!

3 impure, 2 pure.

[ornate saffron]

Depends on your resources. If you have lots of rubber being made in lets say the blue crater then that would be good.

[leaden turret]

cc <@&370483737957236737> #faq system requirements are apparently out of date

[inland fulcrum]

Oop, yeah I meant to type 5 lol
But yeah, exactly. That seems very little, no?

[jagged nymph]

you just dont need a ton of it

[sly delta]

I just finished automating 20 computers/min and found the best* spot to be the spire coast (started in the northern forest)

[weak bloom]

The former, I think, uranium fuel rods go a long way and you can use the byproduct to produce 2 more types of nuclear fuel rods

[magic void]

I do not have any trains setup or anything like that. I do have a small refinery making i think 100 rubber/min

[ornate saffron]

Where that is can you easily get the other resources for computers?

[teal cliff]

A nuke plant that uses all 2100 uranium is huge

[ornate saffron]

You may need plastic not rubber. I dont have the recipes memorized

[inland fulcrum]

Yeah okay, makes sense

[magic void]

Either way I have a small refinery on the west coast making both plastic and rubber. I didnt see any copper nearby though

[inland fulcrum]

Does anyone know how much energy it'd produce if all uranium was used and turned into plutonium etc?

[weak bloom]

Hm out of curiosity what is the theoretical maximum number of reactors you can power with all 2100 uranium + the resulting plutonium and fixonium?

Lol yeah I'm curious, think the numbers can also vary if you sloop stuff too

[ornate saffron]

So take notes on what you need and find the location with the majority of the resources needed.

I dont have spare poly for rubber or plastic so I made crystal computers as I had lots of quartz.

[teal cliff]

Great fun, don't get me wrong, but just the first phase for uranium rods is 100,8 fully sharded nuke power plants

[weak bloom]

Holy

[inland fulcrum]

jeez

[weak bloom]

Can you sloop the fuel rods? At that point I feel like you might run out of the other resources required lmao

[teal cliff]

it's like 100,8 for uranium, 70something for plutonium and maybe thirtyish for ficsonium maybe? don't quot me on that. The issue later becomes SAM ore

if you get to the end you could sloop the ficsonium rods, since burning those doesn't produce waste, but slooping the others is tricky since you have to deal with the waste somehow

[weak bloom]

Yeah the issue is probably running out of components to make extra plutonium and ficsonium rods

Components other than the waste

[teal cliff]

idk if all my recipes and methods are a 100% optimal but you get the idea, it's a substantial undertaking

yes exactly

you have to process the uranium waste into plutonium rods at the minimum, since you can't directly sink any of the waste

[bold heron]

while it would be best to sloop plutonium rods for power if at all i would only sloop ficsonium rods since would not have to deal whit any waste.

[teal cliff]

so even starting the plant is interesting since you have to build this huge processing facility for the waste and then just hope that you didn't make any huge mistakes while building it. If you did, you're soon going to drown in nuclear waste 😁

[bold heron]

u could still do the old method and build a huge storage and just store all the uranium waste.

[weak bloom]

Yeah nuclear seems like a super fun project, I can't wait to get to it in like 200 more hours lmfao

[ornate saffron]

I havent crunched the numbers but I think slooping ficsonium rods gives you negative energy. The margins are close without slooping

[teal cliff]

to a point yes, but what do you do when it's full? not sustainable trying to expand it all the time

[weak bloom]

Are drones enough throughput to get all the uranium? Seems like the cleanest way to grab it

[ornate saffron]

Fill a tractor and send it the the void lol .

If only you could automate tractor crafting and preload the driving recording lol

[bold heron]

well depending on how long u plan to play and how much waste u produce a decent siced storage could last u multiple 100 hours.

[weak bloom]

I saw a video where someone gave a stack of nuclear waste to a lizard doggo and launched it into the void

[bold heron]

the tractor never despawns and starts to create lag.

[weak bloom]

There is no Geneva on this planet 🙂

[ornate saffron]

Ya. You can flush it down the toilet too.

[teal cliff]

ya gl flushing 100 nukes worth of waste down the toilet!

[bold heron]

good luck flush like 5million waste

[weak bloom]

One by one

[ornate saffron]

I'm Canadian. We have a history of committing acts that become war crimes

[ornate saffron]

It does now. That was a thing way back when

[ornate saffron]

Thats the joke

[weak bloom]

The latest kibitz video was hysterical, turned on the entire plant and it immediately was a disaster

Somehow managed to mix plutonium waste into a load balancer and got it perfectly mixed into all the uranium waste, 10/10

[cold berry]

Do any of y'all play with the global illumination? I don't notice it much in screenshots but I think it looks nice. (My factory does need lights though hella bad now lol)

[ornate saffron]

I play with it on. I like it.

[cold berry]

I love it but I'm a nerd for lighting effects in games. Weird pull but jacksepticeye is just as obsessed with lighting as me and it makes me feel seen when he rants about it lol

[ornate saffron]

This was my first project with global illumination in mind

#design-and-architecture message

Using painted beams to make a slotted roof so the sun would create cool shadows was a lot of fun

[teal cliff]

o shit I think you're right. I didn't even think of this. My modeler agrees on quick calculations that you're losing power if you sloop ficsonium rods at least on my recipes. But at this point you should have a LOT of power so could still do it just for the love of the game and not necessity

[ornate saffron]

for sure, Its a sandbox game. If you want to do something you don't need a reason ^_^ i just like pointing out positives and negatives just incase it effects you.

[teal cliff]

no that was a good call, hadn't even crossed my mind

[cold berry]

My wife said it was pretty. I do too, but so did my wife

[ornate saffron]

i manually build curves ( a converstion im having in #design-and-architecture ) because i like ripping a bong hit listening to music while i do it

[cold berry]

I have a a few mods. Under 15, but one of them has curved walls and foundations, because I too enjoy ripping a bong and then doing anything else but that :p

[ornate saffron]

^_^exactly whatever achieves your goals

[inland fulcrum]

Are there good/worth to grind for alternative recipes for nuclear energy with plutonium?

[ornate saffron]

depends what your goals are. There is a recipe to create more waste then normal. If you want that go for it ^_^

all recipes have there place. just tools to use

[inland fulcrum]

my goal is getting so much energy that I hopefully wont ever need to bother with it anymore lol, and that as easily as possible. Not trying to mix max energy possible or something

[ornate saffron]

then you can just use regulare recipes. OR not even use nuclear, Nitro rocket fuel using one pure oile node gives you 200gw.

[normal orbit]

Yes there are some very useful alts and one not very useful

[ornate saffron]

@normal orbit likely has suggestions to keep it simple

[normal orbit]

Uh most power is infused uranium cell to uranium fuel unit. Then non fissile uranium to instant plutonium cell into plutonium fuel unit

[tame jacinth]

Nitro rocket fuel will basically get you to the end of the game without having to ever worry about it

[normal orbit]

If you ok with a little less power plutonium pellet path is pretty good too

Fertile uranium I would steer clear of

[marble iron]

hey guys just a quick question, when around a plan designer, how to disable that it loads a plan when you select one to build it next to it ? I don't know if I'm clear.
I have parts saved as plans and would like to make new plans from assembling these parts but each time i select one in the building window (not the planner), it deletes what i'm working on to open the plan i just selected... sos xD
I'm not sure such a minor thing would require a proper question post but i can do so if you deem it appropriate

[ornate saffron]

is plan designer some kind of layout planer?

[marble iron]

sorry, i'm not sure about the word in english, my game is in my mother tongue but it is the thing allowing to do blueprints ?

[green fiber]

if you mean the blueprint designer ingame (the big cube): it shouldnt load blueprints when you select them in the build menu

[pale tree]

what if we had invisible conveyor lifts so it looked like items were falling off one belt and onto another

[green fiber]

invisible lifts so items magically ascend to heaven

[normal orbit]

I had that happen once

[marble iron]

yes that

[normal orbit]

Deleted and rebuilt designer

[marble iron]

it is doing it since yesterday (session was restarted and all) and it is the most infuriating thing xD

[marble iron]

i did that as well ! 😢

although at the same spot, i could move it to try

[ornate saffron]

?have you restarted you computer to clear all caches?

[normal orbit]

I think I built it elsewhere yes

[marble iron]

i'm not sure how to clear the cache in that instance but restarting the rig sounds manageable xD

[ornate saffron]

sometimes restarting is all that is needed. Turning off your computer doesnt clear temperary data.

@cerulean valley Congrates!

now you can play for real !

[marble iron]

it looks like it is fixed... i'm a bit ashamed but thank you a lot guys, what a weird bug tbh

[normal orbit]

No need to feel ashamed for encountering a bug

[jolly crystal]

Im honestly surprised how well this game runs on steam deck.

I do notice a slight drop in fps after completing stage 1 of the space elevator though

A permanent -2fps id say

[cold sierra]

Can someone tell me if 45° is the best angle for longest range hypertube cannon, or not ?

[normal orbit]

No. I think it's around 30

[bleak valley]

Just to see if I’m dumb how long did it take yall to realize you can store more in the dimensional depot then what’s in the starting list

I accidentally dragged an item into the list and saw it expand and my view was changed lol

[cold sierra]

Oh really ?
Okay

[normal orbit]

Starting list?

[bleak valley]

In the inventory when you first unlock the depot it shows you a list of items and I thought that was the only things that could go into the depot

[normal orbit]

Mm no. It's empty. Won't show anything until you upload something

[bleak valley]

I very distinctly remember it showing a bunch of basic items like rods, plates, screws, concrete etc at 0/200 or whatever stack size

[normal orbit]

That's not normal. I suspect you or someone joined your game uploaded then took it out

[bleak valley]

Whatever you wanna believe ig

[ornate saffron]

.... I read the upgrade when it was introduced

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message its facts, not a belief

[bleak valley]

Might’ve bugged then and filled the list early idk

[bleak valley]

I’m not very smart

[gloomy tusk]

How do you have dimensional depots before the hub

[bleak valley]

Creative

[normal orbit]

i just started an ags game

[gloomy tusk]

ags?

[normal orbit]

advanced game settings

tick box all mam unlocks and no build cost, place a depot, upload an item

[bleak valley]

Helpful for planning factories

[gloomy tusk]

why has nobody talked in almost 20 minutes

[tall lantern]

no need

[abstract heron]

we are making factorys etc etc

[ornate frost]

They are looking for the hidden mk.1 conveyor belt somewhere in their factory

[normal orbit]

Or the piece of MK1 pipe inside a junction

[cold berry]

Panicking now oh God you can't just say that shit

Oh God I'm going to puke oh God

[wet juniper]

what do you do when a tractor d spawns but still shows here on map?

[normal orbit]

It prob fell thru the world. Load save in scim and move it/delete it

[real shale]

fluid trucks......

[low ingot]

some people just wanna watch the world burn

[real shale]

need.....fluid trucks

when you come back after not playing for a while and forgot what you were doing

[normal orbit]

When I know I can't play for a bit. I put down a billboard or more and leave a note to myself :p

[weak bloom]

Knowing myself, i would look at the billboard and think "that's a stupid idea, why would I do that", redo it entirely, and realize halfway through that there was a good reason for doing it the billboard way

[normal orbit]

I'd lie if I said that hasn't happened :p

[bold heron]

is there a good spot in the rocky deasert to get all the biomass i need for like 6-10 hours until i get my coal running ?

[weak bloom]

Past me, present me, and future me are all archenemies and constantly trying to sabotage each other

[normal orbit]

All of rocky desert. Go hog wild with the chainsaw

There's trees, leaves and mycelia aplenty

[fickle locust]

Also remember that animals are a renewable source of biomass

They're somehow incredibly energy-dense

[south sinew]

if you're on biomass so much you need to renew it you're doing it wrong

[normal orbit]

If you kinda know what you're doing you can complete phase 1 in under 2 hours, think my record is 1h41m

[reef basin]

is there a starting list? 🤔 afaik it's empty at the start

[fickle locust]

There's as much biomass in 1 creature as there is in 20 pieces of wood

[deft drum]

Step one is do the milestone that unlocks solid biofuel and the chainsaw

From there 6 biomass burners should get you going to the next phase

[near mural]

anyone know why when i scan for limestone it dosnt go further than around 500m?

[deft drum]

It only shows past 500m if there isn't 1 or 2 nodes within that radius

[near mural]

thank you

[deft drum]

Worst case there should be enough Reinforced Iron Plates and Rotors at drop pod crash sites to just shove them in an assemblers to make the smart plating

Hand feeding your project parts is viable

[near mural]

im only on phase 3 rn but tbh idk if ill ever not hand feed with somersloops for space ele parts its sm easier than making a factory for what i need atm

[real shale]

Me crafting nuclear pasta by hand despite FICSIT safety executives telling me not

[proven snow]

Valid

But nice factories are gonna make things a lot easier

[graceful stag]

how are your hands still intact.

[real shale]

They aren't

[normal orbit]

That'd be funny. Dinkdinkdink some hyperdense degenerate matter :p

[real shale]

Don't worry I just made a mini neutron star by hand don't worry about me

[near mural]

im currently rebuilding my factory to make and store most basic parts up to around computers and the idea of making a factory for even 2 adaptive control units or modular engines sounds like a nightmare just my setup for 10 modular frames /s feels huge

[graceful stag]

holding the densest object that is before black hole is totally fine

[real shale]

#satisfactory-memes message I refer to my meme

[ember escarp]

Is there a vanilla way to get Runic characters to work with signs?

[normal orbit]

If they ASCII just copy paste

I don't think you can do alt+code in game but you can in notepad and just copy paste into game

[ember escarp]

ᚠᚡᚢᚣᚤᚥᚦᚧᚨᚩᚪᚫᚬᚭᚮᚯᚰᚱᚲᚳᚴᚵᚶᚷᚸᚹᚺᚻᚼᚽᚾᚿᛀᛁᛂᛃᛄᛅᛆᛇᛈᛉᛊᛋᛌᛍᛎᛏᛐᛑᛒᛓᛔᛕᛖᛗᛘᛙᛚᛛᛜᛝᛞᛟᛠᛡᛢᛣᛤᛥᛦᛧᛨᛩᛪ᛫᛬᛭ᛮᛯᛰ

[normal orbit]

Paste that into the sign

See if it works

[obtuse kraken]

hi is there a website that i can use that i can input how many nodes of iron, the purity and see how much i have to overclock to get the desirable output of resources?

[normal orbit]

Check pins in #math-and-meta

I don't use em so dunno which is good. But there's some links there

[fluid sapphire]

There are too many variables to have a calculator to do that for you

[reef basin]

if you need twice as much, clock to 200%. Don't need a tool for that

[elfin smelt]

you can build a spreedsheet to calculate this

[ember escarp]

I tried before and after pasting in a notepad, and it doens't seem to work. I just get diamonded question marks. It would have been amazing to include those for my nuclear power plant, because runes are magical and powerful, but alas, I guess not all ascii characters are supported.

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[normal orbit]

I know I used some to make like arrows and lines. But yea guess it's limited

[fluid sapphire]

Knowing how much each quality node outputs with whatever level miner you have and a calculator is sufficient

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message like those

[elfin smelt]

that said DesiredOutput=NumberOfNodes * Purity * x solve for x

simple maths really

[fluid sapphire]

Fun in theory, in practice you're more likely to use a variety of different quality nodes

[elfin smelt]

yeah

there are multiple answers

[wet juniper]

is their a way to quick delete a blueprint you just put down?

[elfin smelt]

theres a blueprint mode in the dismantle mode

pressing R I think

[ornate saffron]

Disassemble change mode to blueprint

[wet juniper]

we legit just found it as i posted haha

thanks all

[near mural]

is there a wiki for molded steel beam and pipe recipes? cant find it on fandom and need to know which is more efficient for encased steel beams

[ornate saffron]

While in that mod if you mouse wheel click it'll copy that bo for quick placement

[ornate saffron]

Don't use fandom as it hasn't been. Updates in three plus years.

Use wiki.gg

[near mural]

thank you

[reef basin]

there's nothing like "more efficient recipe"

you'd need to specify what "efficient" means, and even then you can't compare two recipes in vacuum

[near mural]

i mean for iron specifically

[reef basin]

yeah again, can't compare in vacuum

[ornate saffron]

Side note, recipes are not about efficiency. They are tools for the job.

Maybe you want to use less power or use less space or change the resources you use.

They are just tools

[near mural]

im using a molded recipe into encased steel beams or pipes i figure if encased pipes with molded pipes is more iron efficient i could get hard drives for that

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but what if it's like iron filings? A vacuum can probably pick those up

[reef basin]

you need to compare the whole chain

[unkempt blade]

A vacuum definitely can't pick up a chain...

[reef basin]

not funny and not helpful

[untold zealot]

Are the chilling snails I turn into overclocking potential finite in amount? I'm not sure if I should start using them in production lines or save them for "important" things (such as say overclocking a mining rig)

[reef basin]

they are infinite

[near mural]

i suppose its time i figure out how to use satisfactory modeler then

[unkempt blade]

Sorry I'm just not very engaged because it's not a screw recipe. Yet another iron item you can't compare in a vacuum 🙁

[reef basin]

wouldn't use modeler for that tbh

[near mural]

what would you reccomend

[ornate saffron]

There is 1000+ slugs in the game if you put them through a constructor with a somersloop installed you should have plenty of power shards.

||That being said come end game you can craft power shards||

[rigid lion]

I have decided I hate aluminium

[proven snow]

Why?

[normal orbit]

Usually when efficiency is mentioned it's more product from input which is the basis. You really don't need a whole chain to see you get like 2.5x the ingots from the pure copper alt

[unkempt blade]

I use a beautiful mind wall for this game

[rigid lion]

Everything is so far apart lmao

[elfin smelt]

trains

😎

[reef basin]

something that generates the production line quickly instead of having to do it manually
e.g. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[rigid lion]

Wanted to avoid shipping liquid but feasibly I need to be shipping alumina solution

[ornate saffron]

Phase 4 has a lot of logistics challenges.

[rigid lion]

Did land lucky on sloppy alumina though

[near mural]

thank you so much

[reef basin]

build near resources

[unkempt blade]

why not just solidify the aluminum and move that if you don't want to do liquids?

[elfin smelt]

I personally am shipping bauxite next to lakes and process them there

[normal orbit]

Bauxite is like highly concentrated in a thin strip in the middle of map

[elfin smelt]

i mean shipping to places next to lakes

[proven snow]

Thats when you get to have fun with trains

Trains and trucks is where all the fun is at

[unkempt blade]

the majority of which can be solved by the mighty factory cart

[rigid lion]

I think for ease I need to ship alumina to the depot where I offload a bunch of coal and refine there

[simple pebble]

My general consensus without more details, molded pipes are easier on steel but the concrete cost is high and the logistics burden of using assemblers over constructors is seldom worth it

[rigid lion]

Because I also have quartz somewhere down the line on that

[unkempt blade]

coal is probably less effort to move than any significant amount of alumina solution

[rigid lion]

Is liquid shipping awkward?

[normal orbit]

Concrete is cheap as chips. Tons of limestone around. Not really used awhole lot for other things. Wet concrete alt makes loads of it. Also molded pipes are in the foundry not assembler.

[unkempt blade]

it's not too bad with trains but it's still more work than shipping solids

[rigid lion]

Coal shall come to me then

I made the mistake of building my refinery’s near the aluminium

[reef basin]

it's just fine

[rigid lion]

Is there a recipe to use petroleum coke in aluminium scrap? I hope so as it’ll be a useful sink for oil residue

[reef basin]

people that have issues with fluid shipping are the same that have issues with fluids in general, and that's because they do fluids badly, not because the fluids are bad

[normal orbit]

Electrode scrap yes

[rigid lion]

My general attitude to them has been fill the pipes and try not to think about it

[near mural]

im making steel pipes and beams not only for my depots and storage but also with heavy modular frames and encased steel beams for storage and depots in mind too so i scooped up alot of nearby limestone since it seemed abundant but the 10 overclocked constructors i need for concrete and smelters i need for solid steel and extra foundries im using to use the molded recipes is making me think all this extra logistics is more work than just importing a ton of iron and coal

[unkempt blade]

all I know is 1.2 is going to make liquid stuff even more perfect than it already is

[normal orbit]

It would kind of hilarious if all 1.2 does is fix the bug in vertical junctions

[unkempt blade]

and trucks! we can't ignore the trucks!

[near mural]

my steel setup has quickly turned into a limestone black hole

[fluid sapphire]

You know, could be a fun challenge, nuclear power but you do all the transportation with trucks

[normal orbit]

That's not how you spell miserable

[fluid sapphire]

But who am I kidding, I haven't even started my factory cart laden elevator part factory

[unkempt blade]

Follow your dreams. I support you and your beautiful madness

[fluid sapphire]

I still have to finish my high-speed connector factory ugh

But that brings new challenges, I am trying to sushi my manufacturers

[near mural]

couldnt you just use smart splitters on every one?

[fluid sapphire]

I am, the trouble is I import circuit boards by train and make the rest of the stuff locally

I haven't figured it out yet

[reef basin]

that doesn't force you to sushi tho

[near mural]

i havnt really delt with trains yet but that sounds like it could get a bit awkward

[fluid sapphire]

No, that's a self imposed challenge

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message @bitter kiln just a fyi. You're about 500.000mw short on power. You have some issues in your plant.

[reef basin]

I mean if capacity isn't flat, you already probably have issues

[bitter kiln]

Not finished bro

[unkempt blade]

I like the lumps, they add character

[bitter kiln]

I only have Uranium Rods Online and Plutonium arent burnt

[normal orbit]

That would be an issue :p

[bitter kiln]

😄

[near mural]

yall do mega factories or modular factories

[reef basin]

megafactories are generally not recommended

logistical and performance issues would be two of many reasons why

[normal orbit]

If mega is all in one then heck no. But I make big factories like processing all bauxite on the map

[unkempt blade]

I do nanofactories. No more than 200 total resources/min as input

[near mural]

all of the bauxite on the map sounds like itd make for a pretty huge factory would that not be considered a mega factory?

[reef basin]

"megafactory" is "all production in one place"

[near mural]

oh like everything as in literally all your production? 😭

[reef basin]

it's not about size, it's about playstyle

yeah

[near mural]

yeah that does sound pretty crazy

[unkempt blade]

the key is to make everything except the screws in one place and import the screws then it's not a megafactory anymore

[normal orbit]

Rename mega to performance issue factory :p

[near mural]

screws feel so inconvenient to use at all istg

[reef basin]

that's because you're building them wrong

[unkempt blade]

that's because you're making the common mistake of producing them near what uses them instead of making all your screws in one place and shipping them to your not-quite-megafactory

[near mural]

how should i be building screws

[reef basin]

in front of the machine that needs them, hooked 1:1 (or 2:1 or 1:2 or whichever ratio fits that case)

[near mural]

ym making them as close to where they need to go as possible?

[reef basin]

yeah

and not doing manifolds of them or anything

[unkempt blade]

aren't megafactories just independency at scale though?

[near mural]

i could see how thatd get rid of their annoyance

[reef basin]

no, because independency is literally about spreading factories and you can't have more than one megafactory

[last bluff]

Aren't the 3 coal nodes close together on the east coast all impure?

Oh Discord did not scroll oops, hello

[unkempt blade]

but if it was just about spreading out then it would be ok with shipping intermediate items between factories

[reef basin]

it is ok with that. if it's independent

[last bluff]

Do megafactories get ore and every fluid delivered? Or is there at least some (pre)processing? What about RADIOACTIVE! RADIOACTIVE!

[reef basin]

basically everything, yeah

[cunning glade]

How do singularity cells work as fuel for portals like how many would I need for a good amount of them and do I have too manually supply them I saw someone using them in a video but don't quite understand I think I'm just gonna sloop some of them so I have spares

[simple pebble]

Yeah if you went really overboard with limestone, go for it. I just know I'm typically more limited by that than iron for HMF

[normal orbit]

5/min into the main portal iirc to keep it active

Satellite portal just needs power

I think. Been awhile

[cunning glade]

I see and that's just per main one?

Cuz I'm already making 224 but that's being used else where

[normal orbit]

Yea so if you make more main. Need more fed

[cunning glade]

So I think I just sloop and steal from that since idk if I have any Sam left

[near mural]

yeah i had abt one mk4 belt in of limestone then needed to double my setup but im only really gonna making 2ish hmfs/m and and maybe 11ish encased beams/m for building things when i need some for parts ill probably make a seprate factory

[obtuse kraken]

is there an efficient way to split one input into 8 smelters that wouldnt require 8 splitters?

[normal orbit]

You can dump half a stack in. Wait the minute or so to link up then thru, but you're not going back then cuz link shuts off when it's out

[dense violet]

manifold

[obtuse kraken]

hm okay, but technically 8 splitters would realistically be a "efficient" way, still trying to figure out if spilitters/merges slow down production lines or is it only the input speed matters if that makes sense

[obtuse kraken]

whats that?

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1456102935988539496/image.png?ex=69a83949&is=69a6e7c9&hm=7cb5b018b15709367a6d25f2ecb78577cfbe675f834283cb8981ea123bd33b5f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=358&height=300 this

[cunning glade]

I see

[dense violet]

but have 2 machines on each output

[obtuse kraken]

OHHHHH OMG THAT MAKES MORE SENSE

[cunning glade]

Also if I wanted too take all of the coal copper and limestone from the desert in one massive train station idk how many trains too use

[dense violet]

manifolds are the simplest way to do basically any system in the game.
just needs 2 things

1. at least enough parts per min for the system
2. a fast enough belt

if you want it to work smoothly anyway

[obtuse kraken]

im using mrk 3 belts to run a mk2 normal node if i remember correctly, each miner produces 240 iron per minute

[dense violet]

sure, seems fine? mk3 goes to 270

[obtuse kraken]

yea so its a little over but i think that should be good

[dense violet]

having MORE throughput won't hurt anything

as long as you have enough, doesn't matter. More? no problem

[obtuse kraken]

okay thank you, also for manifold i should space them one foundation per from the pictures i see

[dense violet]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'space them one foundations per' ?

give them as much space as you want/need - different machines have different input and output spacigns

[willow hill]

how can i make my machines look more organized and avoid conveyer spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

planning is the largest gain in this area. plan out where the machines will go, belts and so on

[cunning glade]

Foundations

At least too start

Manifolds help

[near mural]

are hmf used alot in buildings?

[cunning glade]

Somewhat

[spare prism]

hi

[cunning glade]

U need more complex version of them for building other things

Aswell

[near mural]

im jst making a small amt rn that ill need for buildings ill probably make a larger deticated setup for them later i just didnt realize all id be able to make is 1/m 😭

[cunning glade]

What's ur recipe look like

I'm making 50 slooped too 100 for now

[dense violet]

find a spot with iron coal and limestone nearby 🙂 can make more.
there's also recipes that reduce resource cost

[near mural]

im using base recipe for hmf and molded for steel pipes and beams iron products are no issue rn

[untold zealot]

Hmmm. When dragging a Conveyer belt in the air, is there a way I can make sure its level? Having some minor trouble judging how "high" something is - I know it doesn't functionally matter too much, but aesthetics are important dangit :D

[near mural]

heavy encased frames might be enough to get me around 1.6ish/m

[cunning glade]

I use 4k iron 1800 limestone and 400 coal a min too make my 50 a min

I recommend alts

[dense violet]

consider getting these recipes https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Brrnek5h4V2gcyLOfBrB

[near mural]

thats a ton

[cunning glade]

Not really

It's over by the quartz cave in the rocky desert

[obtuse kraken]

is there a way in satisfactory calc to put in that i have power shards to overclock one of my constructers to have an even amount of them

[cunning glade]

Don't use calculator use tools

[obtuse kraken]

oh sorry yes i meant tools sorry

[cunning glade]

Just do the math that's what I do I use tools cuz u unfortunately can't too my knowledge

[near mural]

this is great actually thank you theres somewhere very nearby i could do this but i think ill go a little farther jst to get away from my main base a little

[cunning glade]

Hmf are something I recommend u place wherever the resources are available and then drone them out

[near mural]

perhaps instead of making a whole line in my current base for 1hmf/m i should do this and put it in a depot

[cunning glade]

One of thoose low throughput items which drones are amazing for

[near mural]

im not quite at drones yet im excited to mess with them eventually tho

[dense violet]

long belts also work

[cunning glade]

U get them before u really starting need hmf in places so

And ig u don't even need aluminum cuz I only do cuz rocket fuel

Well ig rcu

[near mural]

ive got 4 500m belts just for my little too complicated steel setup rn 😭

[dense violet]

yeah, a big part of keepign things simple in the game is to scout locations for a factory where you can get all or almost all the resources pretty locally

[cunning glade]

Adding too that I use tools too figure out what I need and the interactive map on calculator too figure out where the best spot would be

[near mural]

ive only recently unlocked trains so ive felt kind of trapped in my area until now tbh

[dense violet]

using both SCIM and Tools in tandem and edit your location and recipe choices

[cunning glade]

Go build in that area then hook up a train too and from

[dense violet]

long belts! totally doable 🙂 stretch them for 4km if you need to

[cunning glade]

Eventually you'll expand on it and have global network

[dense violet]

eh, not nescesarilly

you can pretty easily avoid them

[cunning glade]

Well depending on where all he builds but mostly

And ig how big he builds

[near mural]

how far is too far for a train

[cunning glade]

I do cuz I'm building huge and using up quite a bit of the resources on the map

[cunning glade]

That isn't a thing at least for me it hasn't been

[ornate saffron]

nothing. its the point of trains ^_^

[cunning glade]

Tho I also have faster trains but they only go up too 200km/h so idk how much better that is than vanilla

I just like the speed

[near mural]

honestly i thought if i had one too far then id run out of resources before it did its loop

[tall lantern]

for a train, depends on the round trip time, but for long routes, the beauty of trains is you can just add another

[cunning glade]

If it does add more trains

Like more train cars and engines if needed

[tall lantern]

doesn't even need to be a longer train (though that is an option and they do look cool)

[cunning glade]

Either make it longer or add more stations

[tall lantern]

can literally just have 2 or 3 or 17 or however many separate trains make sense, all doing the same route

[cunning glade]

Yeah but I think that's what I'm aiming for cuz I'm gonna need a lot of train outpost and I worry about 2 lanes not being enough

We shall see

[tall lantern]

only a problem really if they're all going to one place

and have to queue

[cunning glade]

Some will be

Cuz I'm gonna be taking 36k coal from the map too one spot

I wanna try and get it all in one bigger train than a whole bunch of smaller ones

Well not one big one but multiple bigger ones

[tall lantern]

as long as the stations are set up sensibly, you'll only get slight pauses at intersections or whatever, so as long as you haven't timed it so a train literally can't stop or it can't keep up its throughput, it'll be fine

[ornate saffron]

if your loop ios thjat long you just need to add another train to the loop

[cunning glade]

I see also I think for these bigger train builds I'm just gonna bring in everything by train on the bottom floor and then have a whole bunch of waiting bays or stacks I think there called from factorio

[tall lantern]

alas, trains don't do dynamic pathing

[cunning glade]

Cuz I can't just set them too leave when cargo is empty right

[cunning glade]

Wym

Ive seen it on a blueprint before

[tall lantern]

doesn't mean it works lol

[cunning glade]

Thelittle waiting stations

I'm confused I feel like it would work with path and block signals

[tall lantern]

if you're expecting to split a track in 5 lanes then merge together, and for trains to pick one to chill in til they can move into whatever comes after, then all that'll happen is they'll all just pick the same one to try and wait in

[cunning glade]

Ones the train leaves it opens the spot and the next one in line goes

[tall lantern]

yeah, they'll queue linearly

one behind the other

[unborn moss]

There's a mod that has dynamic train pathing.

[cunning glade]

Yeah that's what I want then we'll the train goes and refills the next one unloads

[tall lantern]

there's mods for a lot of things, I don't consider them as relevant

[cunning glade]

Also yeah I could just get that

Did see that mod I wanted it but I never understood what it did

[tall lantern]

dynamic pathing there'd mostly mean that if you've got like 5 trains waiting for one station, they could each take one lil bay rather than all backing up far beyond whatever waiting area you've designated

[cunning glade]

I see kinda well I'm gonna try it cuz I have some ideas that I think would work but if we will see

Ig worst case I get the mod and that helps and then boom

[mortal ginkgo]

there is a mod that fixes this jfyi ya all big dawgs

[tall lantern]

do reddit links work, let's see...
so this is an example of the sort of stacking that doesn't work
https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/19ca2ro/train_waiting_bays/

[tall lantern]

too slow 😛

there's mods for a lot of things, I don't consider them as relevant

[mortal ginkgo]

RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

[obtuse kraken]

im sorry for the kinda weird question but i gen dont know how to do the math for this, on satisfactory tool(im trying to automate smart plating while maximizing all outputs to be put in separate storage for each individual item and im so confused on how many constructors i should split off to do single items and the rest to be put into a assembler, for exp im starting with metal plating and it says at the end ill have 6.575 extra and 138.082iron plate -> reinforced iron plates

[dense violet]

huh?

[cunning glade]

Hmmm not exactly what I wanted so we will see idk I'm gonna mess around with it worst case I use the mod like I said cuz I love mods they just make something good even better

[dense violet]

You'll need to explain things differently - this is a plan for smart plating though ?https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=o7rjlGEHqDD3qZQhHRXw

[tall lantern]

hard to parse the question, but normally the answer to "how do I get this oddly specific number of items from a production line" is "clock the machines to produce that number"

[unborn moss]

You can always just have a long loop of track to store the extra trains on. But yea without the mod, trains just find the shortest route when leaving a station and will only deviate if you delete track or something.

[dense violet]

oh you mean splitting items?

[tall lantern]

(and answer to "how do I send the excess somewhere else" is smart splitters, but you're unlikely to have those right now)

[obtuse kraken]

ye sorry

[cunning glade]

I mean smart splitters are super early

[dense violet]

clock the machines to make that much

that's it.
clocking solves like 99% of your problems before they become problems

[tall lantern]

probably not for a newbie having trouble with smart plating

[obtuse kraken]

no ik but am i supposed to split them off or just have them all go to one conveyer belt

[tall lantern]

your call

[cunning glade]

Okay fair

[dense violet]

clock the machines to put exactly what you need on your belt

[tall lantern]

though bear in mind belt throughput limits

[dense violet]

don't merge them all

[obtuse kraken]

damnit can i not post a pic in this chat

[cunning glade]

#screenshots

[tall lantern]

nope, #1038092680493801533 or #math-and-meta are likely the most appropriate places

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[cunning glade]

Or thoose

[tall lantern]

#screenshots is more for fire-and-forget/bragging, not for anything you expect a conversation about

[obtuse kraken]

noticed i was talking in the wrong chat xd

[cunning glade]

Good too know u can post pics in the math one

[cunning glade]

Fair

Well more so I post the photo in there and then #satisfactory message it in here

[tall lantern]

and I completely ignore it and move on lol

[spare prism]

I need

[tall lantern]

a finished sentence?

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture too. post where it is most relevent. #screenshots is mostly about "look at my thing"

[spare prism]

I need to get coal unlocked, my factory just shutdown bc i ran out of biomass

[tall lantern]

yes, automated power is good

[cunning glade]

Well this isn't everyone so 🤷

[ornate saffron]

cvool is good. Coal is lovely

[spare prism]

but for me to get coal i need to get passed phase 1

[tall lantern]

correct

time to hustle

[cunning glade]

Funny how early game u need coal and then late game u need way more

[tall lantern]

depends what recipes you choose

there are other diamonds

[cunning glade]

Ig fair I only have one option so

[spare prism]

I have to make 50k smart plates

[tall lantern]

well that sounds self-inflicted

[ornate saffron]

50 not 50k

you need 4300 Smart plates to beat the game

[tall lantern]

of course if you're doing a self-imposed challenge (modded or manual) then you might need more, but... ^

[spare prism]

check screenshots #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

yup

[spare prism]

[ornate saffron]

Same as a few hoursa ago ^_^

[tall lantern]

like I said, self-inflicted

[cunning glade]

Have u done the one where u need too constantly feed it?

U should add that

Make it 50k constant lol

[ornate saffron]

FEED ME SEYMOR!!!!

[spare prism]

I wanted to but it was broken

[cunning glade]

Dang that sucks

That's prolly my plan for a second playthrough

I crave a dlc coffee stain let us give u more money please

80$ dlc IDC

[spare prism]

🤣

yea bigger map

[tall lantern]

that'll cost you more than 80 quid

[cunning glade]

I've spent 4k in star citizen lol I'll spend a lot on this game I love them both so much

[spare prism]

bruh my fuse keeps blowing idk why

[dense violet]

disconnect your factory before you restart your power

[cunning glade]

More power

U can never have too much

[spare prism]

i did

[cunning glade]

Actually u very easily can lol

Nms is cool I played it a lot like a few years ago

But just not for me idk

[dense violet]

aren't making enough power then, OR you have another bioburner someone that has a blown fuse
if you connect a power systesm to a blown fuse system it shuts off automatically

[cunning glade]

I love realistic graphics I think

So that's prolly why I like sc so much

Same with like cp2077

[spare prism]

bruh idk

[cunning glade]

Actually wait my next challenge is a full VR playthrough

I don't get motion sick at all luckily

Especially cuz sc just added vr I can't wait too get a pimax for both

[spare prism]

i added 2 more bio mass

[ornate saffron]

i believe you can load balance 15 bioburners with mk2 belts if that helps

[spare prism]

I have 6 up rn and were runnning my facility but i ran out of biomass so i restarteed it and now its throwing a fit

okay its up now idk

[sick falcon]

why are you using biomass when nuclear exists

[spare prism]

Now why you asking dumb questions

[cunning glade]

I'm doing 112 ficsonium fuel rods:)

[cunning glade]

I mean technically he's not wrong

[spare prism]

He is wrong

[cunning glade]

I mean nuclear does exist

[spare prism]

It doesn't exist if it's locked 🙄

[ornate frost]

locked... for now :p

[spare prism]

lol

[sick falcon]

personally i hand power everything until i unlock nuclear

lizard doggos on hamster wheels powering everything

[spare prism]

Bruh

[low ingot]

nuclear is a headache, but turbofuel is even more of a headache

i just run around with power shards and slops and multiply what i need desperately xD

[spare prism]

Turbo fuel is easy

[ornate saffron]

Nitro Rocket fuel is easy, you just need to place 240 overclocked fuel generators per 600 oil used lol

[low ingot]

rather have my little chernobyl incident thatn deal with that

[weak bloom]

is geothermal power ever worth it?

[reef basin]

it's free, unfailable power
worth in my book

you don't pay any cost for it apart from one-time build cost, so basically nothing

[weak bloom]

...hm, am I misunderstanding the randomness of the power

I thought it can fluctuate

[reef basin]

it does

[fresh robin]

Any1 just generally know if building the 600 oil per minute equivalent of turbo fuel will generate some decent power?

[reef basin]

even just diluted fuel would give you a lot of power, no reason to do TF imo

[fresh robin]

I have diluted fuel too

[weak bloom]

I have turbofuel since I didn't get to t4 for a while

[fresh robin]

How many

[weak bloom]

2 lines of 540 -> 300 turbofuel to 80 gens, that's probably gonna last me until nitro rocket fuel

[fresh robin]

But

Oh no

I have 1800 oil coming in…

[weak bloom]

well I just used 2 600 wells and I'm wasting the excess, it's whatever for now

[reef basin]

honestly, I'd just do diluted fuel and then go for nuclear

[weak bloom]

well you need blenders + the recipe, and crater lake makes turbofuel super convenient, I spent so long doing projects in phase 3 that it wouldn't have made sense for me to wait until diluted imo

but yeah if you have access to diluted just do that probably

[reef basin]

you don't need blenders for diluted fuel

[fresh robin]

I have access to all three beneficial alternate recipes involving turbo fuel or its components

[reef basin]

you can do the packaged variant

[dense violet]

it'll get you this much https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=euZkOsfq67kad1qC7ycD

planners are useful

[fresh robin]

The only problem i have with building this

Is that i need whatever this leads to but times 3

[dense violet]

huh?

... 1800 oil?

[fresh robin]

Actually about 2500 but we dont talk about that part

[dense violet]

just go nuclear at that poin

[fresh robin]

I already have

[dense violet]

ok just plug in 2500 into the oil input and see what it spits out then if you're just doing this for reasons

it's not a problem at all

[fresh robin]

Im gonna keep the 700 for the things i need to craft with oil so just 1800

[dense violet]

ok... plug in 1800

its set to 600 and maximised so the plan will auto change

[fresh robin]

Oh its 1920 generators

[dense violet]

yeah, hence go nuclear, but if you're already burning all the uranium on the map... you do you

[fresh robin]

But imagine all of those generators…

[dense violet]

that's the worst part

the whole reason not to

is repetitive drudge work

[fresh robin]

However

Nuclear is a bunch of recipes to make the fuel, then a whole bunch to dispose of it

And i dont like that, but i also dont like 1920 generators needing to be built

Maybe i should go back to coal 🤔

[deft drum]

Don't

[fresh robin]

At the end of the day i just wanna build massive factories so either going nuclear or fuel, they both fulfull my needs

[deft drum]

75 MW per generators and two inputs vs. The 375 per generator and 1 input of fuel

[fresh robin]

So i might just do both

[deft drum]

I've decided to hold off on going too deep in my new run in the lead up to 1.2 experimental

[leaden matrix]

I mean 20k coal gens does sound awfully pretty

[fresh robin]

Okay maybe 1920 fuel powered generators doesnt sound so bad anymore

Its either that or a lot of nuclear ones

[leaden matrix]

Nuclears fun ^^
And kinda cheap tbh

[fresh robin]

Yeah but then id have to drag convenyors from all across the map into one spot

[leaden matrix]

Trains :>
Drones :>

[fresh robin]

Unreliable

[leaden matrix]

Make more than you need so you can have a margin of error ^-^

[fresh robin]

Whats the problem with just the classic conveyors

-very reliable
-very conveying

[reef basin]

don't need the disposal part if you don't want

[fresh robin]

Just stack up on waste?😭

[reef basin]

yeah

[leaden matrix]

-# 5 million industrial storage units at the bottom of the map

[deft drum]

My plan is to use Plutonium Rods to power my drones

[fresh robin]

The problem with that would be if i had the entire worlds uranium all making fuel for reactors, i feel like you would need a couple storage units

[deft drum]

Then I'll just go "Oops all drones" to deliver shit to the "Megafactory™"

[fresh robin]

Trademark😭

Btw are there any good alt recipes for nuclear cause i got a couple here perchance

[reef basin]

yeah, but one blueprint worth of storages would give you a lot of space

[reef basin]

that depends how you define good

[fresh robin]

Beneficial

[reef basin]

how

all recipes are beneficial in some way

[fresh robin]

More generators

[reef basin]

per?

[fresh robin]

Just more in general

[reef basin]

that... doesn't help

more generators means you need more fuel

[deft drum]

As in, most fuel rods per unit of uranium?

[fresh robin]

Yes

[reef basin]

see, that's what I was asking for

[deft drum]

Checking the wiki you want Infused Uranium Cell and Uranium Fuel Unit

[fresh robin]

Oh i actually just have those waiting to be chosen rn

Out of the 5 hard drives 2 of them had the right things

Thats very satisfactory

Caterium😔

Crystal oscilator😞

Okay maybe these alt recipes aint for me

[magic void]

Anyone able to give me a hand figuring out why my fuel gens keep surging?

[reef basin]

post images in #1038092680493801533

[magic void]

Will do

[fresh robin]

Where do you get all the cool building stuff?

[cunning glade]

I mean it exists u just don't have access too it

[jagged nymph]

why is there not just a foundation but cut in half diagonally like a sandwich

[cold berry]

Whoever recommended the cartograph mod, holy shit I love it.

Favorite vanilla+ mod (doesn't add parts, just fun functionality)

I recommend it to anyone