satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

that is normal. Im doing a slow run and im spending much time in phase 3

if i need screws i use aluminium rods then make screws from those rods.

To each there own

[sick falcon]

aluminum beams > screws are double the screw per aluminum tho

[normal orbit]

aluminium is so expensive of a material to use for something not needed :o

[stuck escarp]

help i cant decide which intersection to go with ive made a few test ones that fit my existing straight rail blueprints

#design-and-architecture message

[glad drum]

I think it depends on what kind of personality you want your train to have. Is this a train that is more reserved, introverted? Or are your rails/trains more widespread, big banking turns with a more CHOO CHOO I'M HERE personality?

I do this with my conveyors - some are just little guys and they have some smaller squiggles and humps while others have HUGE curved sections with a lot of verticality

[stuck escarp]

hmmm

i like this approach

i think its more of an efficient energy

like a
"
-# choo choo
im here doing work i guess just on my way
"
sorta vibe

if ykwim

[glad drum]

Hmm then probably one of the two middle ones. Those are more serious, get the job done vibes.

[stuck escarp]

i think im gonna go with the top middle one

i will just have to figure out what im doing with the hypertubes

[glad drum]

#screenshots message -- I'm doing the same but with 8 conveyors coming up to make iron pipes

[stuck escarp]

anyway time to make a blueprint for it

[sharp sierra]

I have a question regarding power and fuel, i have coal power plant, i'm currently using coal, if i used compacted coal, does it double it's power output or just burn slower and gives same power?

[stuck escarp]

will have to do it in 4 symetrical sections cus i dont think it will fit in a mk2 designer

or even a mk3 if i had those yet

[weak bloom]

Output of any generator is the same. Different fuel just lets you power more generators

(not considering overclocking of course)

[proven snow]

Burn slower

[ornate saffron]

Like every playthrough in the end i try to make the best of the resources i have. Personally i almost always have more Aluminum then i have use for. As Whenever i need more i just process one entire node.

so for me this often is optimal for least input greatest output for screws

#screenshots message

[sharp sierra]

so it's not worth it to invest in compacted coal i guess, just gonna waste more power on assemblers making it

[weak bloom]

You'll gain way more still

[proven snow]

If you have enough coal alraedy, then yea not worth it

[weak bloom]

Unless your production is equal to the assemblers?

But yeah imo normal coal is fine until oil. I didn't bother with compacted at all

[ornate saffron]

most people just move to fuel.

[normal orbit]

burning slower, which means you can feed more coal power gens making more power

[ornate saffron]

@sharp sierra when you reach oil it will be the same. there Is several different types of fuel you can use in fuel generators. each burn longer which allows you to fuel more generators

[balmy schooner]

Does curves in your hyperloop network slows you down if you have an hyperloop booster at the start?

[sharp sierra]

Ah now i understand, thanks a lot for clearing it out

[weak bloom]

Yeah 300 crude oil making turbo fuel can power double the number of generators as 300 crude making regular fuel

Ish. I might have the ratios slightly off

[normal orbit]

not any significant amount

[ornate saffron]

a often arguement here is how Nitro Rocket fuel is too good lol

[weak bloom]

Oh like better than nuclear? I don't think I have rocket fuel yet lol

[ornate saffron]

better no. I say equal and its simple to make just space heavy

[normal orbit]

its not better than nuclear, but its tremendously easy to set up and makes a lot of power to the point you can finish game easily without touchign nuclear

[ornate saffron]

agreed. If a player runs out of oil and is not using nuclear they need to go nuclear lol

[weak bloom]

Wait do you keep the save and can keep playing around in the world after submitting the last elevator phase? Or is it actually done?

[normal orbit]

like blue crater lake has enough sulfur, nitrogen and coal to make around 6000 rocket fuel without using sloops or anything

[stuck escarp]

it burns slower so you can burn the same amount per unit of time in more generators thus producing more power. but for what its worth i would save the sulphur for stuff later in the game or just dont bother. its usually easier just to either make more coal or wait until oil to expand your power infrastructure

but feel free to make it anyway its completely up to you

if you want to just for the sake of doing it then be my guest thats whats so good about this game you can just do whatever

[weak bloom]

Oh sweet so I can keep my power plant in the same place and upgrade it to rocket fuel later I guess

[stuck escarp]

wait i didnt realise it was that much lol

i was planning on doing a rocket fuel build later in my current save

[normal orbit]

its whats available withing easy beltable distance

#screenshots message

you need mk3 miners and t6 belts to fully utilize it

but like, you can build it scalable fairly easily and just upgrade as you can

[glad drum]

You can keep playing

[ornate saffron]

Spoliers
|| you are abandoned|| you can continue in your world after credits roll

[spiral summit]

why tf are my deleted blueprints coming back

are they trying to haunt me

[normal orbit]

ghost of blueprints past

[weak bloom]

"was I not good enough for you?"

[ornate saffron]

I... dont know..... i havent deleted Bp's in a while.

did they add bps to the steam cloud save finally?

[normal orbit]

not yet afaik

[glad drum]

I want to play on my TV upstairs by using a controller, but the default controllers kind of suck for movement --- does anyone have any suggested configs they've tried on Steam?

[ornate saffron]

try searching for a premade profile via google. other games i play have had profiles made to match there console counterpart before official support

[spiral summit]

so the bp doesnt exist yet it shows the required materials and the icon is still there 🥀

[unkempt blade]

I have a cracked version of Dragon Naturally Speaking from 2005 and I just yell instructions at it and have it relay them to satisfactory

[spiral summit]

i just clicked on a blueprint to place why is it redirecting my materials 1km east to a blueprint designer

[glad drum]

I will check, thanks! I don't have my controller with me right now so I can't search for profiles through steam. Xbox controller, B to crouch really doesn't make the blade-runner movement feel very good

[spiral summit]

istg the blueprints in this game are awfully buggy they need to patch the whole mechanic

[ornate saffron]

i've never even heard of this issue.

have you searched #1038092680493801533 to see if there is similar situations?

[nocturne ridge]

Anyone here play with a gamepad/keypad like the Razer Tartarus? I use a split keyboard (Moonlander) which isn't comfortable to game on but saves me from carpal tunnel, so I use a Razer Tartarus to game - but satisfactory requires too many keys for things like nudging/etc. with a one-handed keypad

Was wondering if anyone had a similar setup/solution or knew of a one-handed gamepad with more keys or binding options. Haven't had much luck and thinking about getting one of those MMO mice with 300 buttons on it

[unkempt blade]

I would imagine one of those would need the same sort of keybinding adjustments as your split keyboard would

[normal orbit]

cant say i've seen any severe blueprint bugs outside of using conveor lifts and splitters/mergers on em

[next ivy]

im getting the "belt has to be connected to an element inside the planner" error a few too many times for my taste

[merry ore]

I started making Ionized Fuel in some quantity but feel bad using it for my jetpack before I've used up all the Liquid Biofuel I made when I first unlocked it.
...only have a full double container and half an industrial buffer left!

[leaden matrix]

Just use the liquid biofuel for something else, or keep it as a back up

-# I never ended up using biofuel tbh

[weak bloom]

Sink it lol

[quasi warren]

I used liquid biofuel a ton. Saved me. Once I switched over to ionized, I just sunk it

Or I used it in temporary vehicles

Not sure

[normal orbit]

biofuels nice until you can get ionized :p

[high dagger]

🥹 I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A DISCORD SERVER FOR SATISFACTORY

im crying

[high dagger]

i like your profile : O

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you. Make sure you embrace impure limestone nodes. If you tap all of them there is a secret ending yes.

[high dagger]

😔 wow

is it the main mineral of the game or what ? did i missed a maj ?

UPDATE* my bad

[mortal ginkgo]

I am just joking brother. Enjoy the game as you like. ❤️

[leaden matrix]

No its evil

[high dagger]

i know XD i was joking to

[mortal ginkgo]

Excuse you! I am not evil. I am just a fanatic.

There is probably a difference.

[high dagger]

are you french btw ?

[mortal ginkgo]

Nope.

[high dagger]

ow i believed

you have "fr" in ur user name 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

ah its from "framework", sorry 😭

[normal orbit]

frenchwork

[ornate saffron]

there is a few french speakers here. I kicked them into #off-topic-general when they went off in excitement last week lol

[high dagger]

🥹 i am french

baguette army

[ornate saffron]

<---- Canadian.

[trim void]

i need to move 1200 caterium/m on a single line, is it possible to do that without mk.6 belts?

[reef basin]

member since 2018

[high dagger]

😔 i have to reinstall satisfactory to be honnest with you guys

[high dagger]

😞 i don't have the game for so long

[weak bloom]

Define "single line", you could just stack 2 mk5 belts

[mossy fulcrum]

I just joined the server today too

[high dagger]

i have it only since like one year

[high dagger]

me too

[weak bloom]

But if the miner is outputting 1200 you can't take it without a mk6 belt

[trim void]

well i think all of it on a single belt is obviously not possible

[trim void]

luckily not

[weak bloom]

I mean I have a couple 3x3 belt highways crossing biomes so yeah definitely possible to do it that way lol

[mossy fulcrum]

yeah, i know, thats why i replied to your message, and why i said "too"...

[trim void]

so just stack belts

[weak bloom]

Yeah

[normal orbit]

no

[acoustic bear]

lol so I just setup an aluminum plant that produces more water than it needs via sloops so it's now it has no water input and sinks water bottles to get rid of the excess

water goes in for sulphuric acid and instant scrap and comes out the back of the blenders and right back to the start lol

[trim void]

THAT'S WHAT I DID oops caps

[acoustic bear]

it bottles like 90 water per minute to balance the loop

but 3600 scrap from 900 bauxite is sweet

[unkempt blade]

that's going to be so many aluminum screws!

[acoustic bear]

lol I'm the most ineffiecient builder ever I'm sure

I like constructing a dedicated line for almost every part

so I'm doing turbo motors rn and building them from ingots basically

[unkempt blade]

efficiency is for nerds, if it makes items it's a good factory 😄

[acoustic bear]

oh it makes items

wayyyyy tooo many items

[glad drum]

I'm transporting 240 iron using 8 mk.1 conveyors and use about 1000 plates per conveyor from miner to refinery

don't worry I gotchu

[acoustic bear]

lolol\

[merry ore]

When I stop being lazy and finish setting up my train loop I think I'm just gonna set up to mass-ship ingots everywhere

[acoustic bear]

I love that I can select goals that are basically arbitrary and work them out

[leaden matrix]

On the topic
Sometime today when I get home I have to place 57 constructors for screw :>

[merry ore]

Except for single-inpit products like reinforced iron plates, wanna make a 128/m off an overclocked normal iron node

I just hate trains

[glad drum]

100% like "How can I use Factory Carts to transport quartz without unlocking foundations?"

[merry ore]

I'm sure I'll love them once they actually start working but I am not yet there lol

[unkempt blade]

You're amazing and talented and I have faith that you'll come to love trains one day

[merry ore]

It's just tedious setting up the infrastructure, the logic is easier than Factorio

If it was 2d it would be a different story lol

[unkempt blade]

but just think of how adorable the trains will look driving around

[merry ore]

I could MAKE it 2d and just sky-rail but that would look like ass to me

[leaden matrix]

-# finally someone gets me

[glad drum]

You can make it less tedious by seeing how much terrain you can clip your train through AND how many loops you can make it do

[stuck escarp]

#screenshots message @weary latch looks very tidy

[weary latch]

I know, thank you very much

[glad drum]

unironically it actually does look fairly tidy nice job

[merry ore]

I have stopped caring about trees and am just gonna carpet-bomb the whole line with cluster nobelisks when it's done

[unkempt blade]

if you already find the non-skyrail way tedious adding in the skyroad too will only make it worse 🤣

[weary latch]

the generators and pumps are, the belts? hey there it's Josh

[merry ore]

I mean for that it's just pick a height and snap 40 blueprints to each other in a straight line then do a 90 four times right?

[glad drum]

Try the "Curved" mode for belts, it makes them even more fun >:)

[leaden matrix]

What the fuck is that with the belts
Is that Cthulu????

Do you know where they go? Or do they just disapear into the ether and you watch and hope nothing breaks

-# goated, but scary😭

[weary latch]

will do!

[weary latch]

they come from 4 mk1 miners, making 240 cole per minute

[leaden matrix]

LetsGameItOut has found a new vessel

[leaden matrix]

Why do they go so high😭

They're stacked half the way to the top of a coal gen

[glad drum]

I wanna see more of your world Rellek

[weary latch]

my friend sadly "fixed" it by using a splitter manifold

[weary latch]

yes

[leaden matrix]

You can just, overlap them,

I mean, I guess if you want a load balancer to not take up to much space this is how😭

[glad drum]

What a terrible friend smh

[glad drum]

Yeah I agree, and by overlap, I mean you can just clip them into each other haphazardly

[weary latch]

I don't believe in "fuk it, one splitter per machine" I believe in load balancers

[leaden matrix]

You could, do a mix?

[weary latch]

never

[proven snow]

Sounds like it’s not a matter of capability, but of beliefs

[weary latch]

look at the screenshot

they clip... a lot

[glad drum]

lmao I just noticed the many many power poles too

[smoky trench]

will any amount of water stop fall damage

[normal orbit]

not any

needs some depth

[smoky trench]

it wasnt deep enough..

[normal orbit]

rip

[glad drum]

#screenshots message --- Clipping is funny but sometimes it annoys my friends more to show them this and tell them there is absolutely no clipping involved (wires don't count)

[ornate saffron]

Clipping is fine. No clipping is play as you want lol.

I personally vibe clip.

Like pipes clipping through a hill. Im okay with that. I see pipes all the time irl do this.

[glad drum]

I do wish there were aesthetic items for making your clipping look a bit more purposeful, like conveyor tunnels that mold to the terrain

For now, you'd have to blueprint design them

[weary latch]

yeah... my power poles are a worse than my belts

[trim void]

i need to produce 6000 MW in a compact way for one of my factories, what's the best way?

[normal orbit]

one nuclear reactor

[trim void]

just one?

[normal orbit]

yes, clocked to 240% will make 6000mw

[trim void]

what will i need to maintain it

[ornate saffron]

If you are producing 600gw a single alien power augmentor would do it

[glad drum]

200 biomass burners

[trim void]

never tampered with nuclear power before

[normal orbit]

0.48 nuclear fuel rods/min

[trim void]

should i consider plutonium?

[normal orbit]

you need nuclear to make plutonium

[trim void]

kk fair

[normal orbit]

well uranium fuel

the waste gets process into plutonium

[trim void]

what's the best way to make these rods then?

[ornate saffron]

First place a nuclear reactor to see the space it uses and see if it is what you consider compact

[trim void]

😭

well i guess it's better than lining up 24 fuel generators

[normal orbit]

you need two manufacturers to make the fuel rod, and the supporting items to supply them

[weary latch]

#screenshots message @leaden matrix he's going where all the others are going as well

[trim void]

use the default recipe ?

[normal orbit]

the alts make more rods, btu use a bit more advanced materials

[trim void]

less space used?

[normal orbit]

same space if you have the materials

[trim void]

ok no ill stick to default

this uses alot of random stuff 😭

[normal orbit]

yes, but it makes a lot of power :)

[trim void]

what if i use the refined power mod?

[normal orbit]

then i can't help you

[trim void]

sick

[normal orbit]

never used it

[pallid ridge]

Is update coming today?

[normal orbit]

no

[pallid ridge]

When it'll be drop?

[normal orbit]

we'll know tomorrow

[ornate saffron]

The announcement for the announcement was Tuesday lol.

We should get some details around 1.2 tomorrow

[normal orbit]

around 1.2 o clock? :p

[pallid ridge]

Oh on 27 it'll be announcement?

[normal orbit]

yes

[pallid ridge]

Oh, i thought it was the update drop

[normal orbit]

speculation is mid march on experimental, but we'll know tomorrow

[pallid ridge]

Alr thanks

[trim void]

do u know a good spot on the map where i can do all of this stuff

[normal orbit]

dont think there is a spot with everything

logistics will be involved

rocky desert have a fair bit, uranium, sulfur, nitrogen, quartz

[tame jacinth]

I have my nuclear on the ocean in the top left of the map makes getting water easy enough and when it breaks I dont ruin an important part of my world

But also im just hoping they add packaged dark matter residue

[trim void]

wha wha wha 😭 😭

[normal orbit]

kinda can with reanimated sam and dark matter crystals :p

[tame jacinth]

Yeah but like for ficsonium

[trim void]

bro speaking gibberish (my ignorance is based of the fact that i havent tocuhed t9 or nuclear power)

[normal orbit]

you can feed the byproduct from fuel rods back to the ficsonium chain greatly reducing how much you need

[tame jacinth]

I want to put the output from my power cell and oscillator facts into ficsonoum so im not using extra sam

[trim void]

is this server strictly pg or can i make some specific jokes ?

[normal orbit]

probably wouldnt

[trim void]

fair

[tame jacinth]

You can reduce it by 50% without sloops which honestly slooping it makes sense but I hate fluid transport

[midnight ferry]

How can i split 80 iron per min into 15, 20, and 45?

[ornate saffron]

i think the swamp (bottom left) has most the stuff too

[trim void]

wait isnt the swamp more top right?

[normal orbit]

split it 40/40 then 20/20/40 merge one 20 into the 40, then split the 60 into 30/30 then 15/15/ and 30 merge one 15 into the 30

[ornate saffron]

do you need to? can you just use a spitter and once a line backs up itll automatic feed the opther outputs

[elfin smelt]

why you would need these specific numbers tho

[midnight ferry]

modular frames

[normal orbit]

or just manifold it

[fickle locust]

The recipe that makes dark matter crystals from pure DMR is packaged dark matter residue

[normal orbit]

and let it work itself out

[midnight ferry]

45 for the plates, 15 for the screws, 20 for the rods

[normal orbit]

just can't unpack it :p

[elfin smelt]

the simplest solution is just a manifold

[ornate saffron]

ya ytou just feed all three line froma splitter over time itll balance itself

[trim void]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

thats the one

[trim void]

yeah this is top / middle right

[ornate saffron]

okay ^_^

[normal orbit]

swamp is middle east edge

[trim void]

fancy way of saying what i said p-p

[normal orbit]

i would not say swamp is top or close to being top

[trim void]

🤷

[acoustic bear]

swamp is like far east

[normal orbit]

considering the largest biome of dune desert is ontop of the swamp

[ornate saffron]

I no longer use the map to get around i justgo where i need lol

sorry I should be more clear in the future

[trim void]

that's pretty cool, all good tho

[ornate saffron]

ive played to much tbh lol

and when i am not playing i am in here lol

[trim void]

satisfactory is medicine

[weary latch]

just use enough splitters to split 80 iron into 16 belts, join 3 of them for the 15 belt, 4 of them for the 20 and the rest for the 45

[trim void]

i need some help doing something

[midnight ferry]

someone already gave me a thing to do it but thank you

[trim void]

so instead of having 3 depots for 3 of my factories (they are super close, like i have aluminum production grouped up), i want to funnel it all into one depot

[ornate saffron]

so you cannot sushi belt it as when aluminium casing is full in your depot itll just sit in the depot blocking the next item (lets say sheets)

[normal orbit]

multiple diffrent items into one depot?

wont work

[trim void]

dang it, so what's the best course of action? i just wanna make all my resources easily accessible from the dimensional pocket thingy

[ornate saffron]

get more mercer spheres

[normal orbit]

one (or more) depots per item

ideally with an industrial storage under it so you have some buffer volume

[ornate saffron]

there is 298 spheres in the game

[trim void]

grass is green ahh

[ornate saffron]

ther eis a achievement for finding 150 i thinks ^)^

[normal orbit]

97 i think used for mam, so you have 201 spheres to make depots with

[trim void]

hmm

is there absolutely no way to just use one depot

[normal orbit]

nope

[ornate saffron]

not without mods

[trim void]

which one

[normal orbit]

depots have a single slot internal storage, so once the cloud is full that slot fills up, blocking anything else entering

so you cannot sushi feed depots in any workable way

[ornate saffron]

youd have to ask the modding dicord Link can be found in #welcome Good ppl

[trim void]

lemme check that out

[trim void]

would be kinda sick if the depot had an output slot haha, u could teleport items across the map basically, but that kills logistics

[ornate saffron]

happy to help^_^

although it sounds like more work then just finding some spheres

[normal orbit]

yea thats the reason they dont have one :p

tho i think theres a mod for that too, cheat away

[trim void]

calling modding cheating, thank god this isnt twitch or something, 😂

absolute war

[ornate saffron]

Sand box game. POlay the way that is fun for you ^_^

[trim void]

exactly

[real shale]

CONSUME.

[mortal ginkgo]

I will go ahead and RUDELY argue that limiting such output with the already limited amount of mercer spheres wouldn't end the entire logistics 😛

for a continuous supply for decoration you need to use like 120+ mercer spheres anyway

now, such machine would make people request a recipe to produce mercer spheres because people are per usual, exhausting

[trim void]

should i automate the sam fluctuators

[proven snow]

I was so scared that would be the case when I unlocked it. Me and my friend swore not to use it if so

Luckily, we were relieved upon building it

[mortal ginkgo]

not until late game to be fair

[normal orbit]

i mean, its objectively cheating to fully negate the logistics aspect of the game, if thats what ya wanna do, go for it. noone prob cares. but it still is what it is.

[trim void]

how late game is late game

[mortal ginkgo]

when you are at the stage of it being regular production material

[reef basin]

make them in groups of 15, 20 and 45

[midnight ferry]

i alr did it

someone else told me how

[trim void]

tbh as u get into the late game, these things get more and more trivial, and kind of like hypertubes, they're convenient and things u rarely think about

[reef basin]

I mean I can just give you other (and also probably easier) option

one splitter would also work

[trim void]

well im looking at it's recipe rn, there's nothing i can use it for apart from building depots

[midnight ferry]

the thing though

i already did their idea

[mortal ginkgo]

then you are not at that stage. you can still use one Manufacturer to automate it if that tickles your fancy

[reef basin]

the thing though
you'll have similar issues in the future

[trim void]

is it in t9 ?

[mortal ginkgo]

you could say that

[trim void]

alright good to know

think best move is to semi automate it

automate the sam part of it and just hand feed it to my liking

[ornate saffron]

i hand crafted a few full stacks while i did dishes IRL its more then enough til i get to phase 5

[trim void]

there's a phase 5?!

😭

[ornate saffron]

phase four is the hard part., You got this ^_^

[trim void]

yea that's what im completing rn

[ornate saffron]

I Believe in you, Believe in me, who believes in you ^_^

[trim void]

real

[ornate saffron]

#off-topic-media message

[tame jacinth]

You only need a few a minute unless you plan on using the alien power boost thing

[ornate saffron]

we are trying to avoid spoilers

[normal orbit]

a manufacturer making em into a depot is more than enough for personal use and just sink the overflow

[cold berry]

I'm just doing tier 6 now. Finished 5. Let's gooooo

[normal orbit]

prob wanna have a lot of depots eventually

[tame jacinth]

Its def not a late game building

[ornate saffron]

i should go do that just ...becuase lol

i also need to contemplate my current build atm anyways

[cold berry]

I've gotta make a line for biofuel. I never have it. I know it isn't automatable, I meant semi-auto

I took it down and never put one back up. Now I'm chainsaw poor

[tame jacinth]

I just feed the corpses of all those that oppose the growth of the factory into mine

[ornate saffron]

youi can skip it if you like. for power purposes it burns at the same rate as fuel. In a jet pack its speed is really low but the height is nice

[ornate saffron]

i do this for blackpowder lol

[leaden matrix]

Man, some sort of like farm would be cool

[ornate saffron]

the farming mod is rather popular

[tame jacinth]

Biocoal?

[leaden matrix]

Thats neat, some sort of like bio expansion on the game would be cool tho :>

[ornate saffron]

ya, I dont care so much about tickets so i just horde creature parts in the cloud until i am near my ammo plant then dump it. I dont need a infinite supply ammo.

[tame jacinth]

I built my armory around the 2 pure sulfur nodes and nitrogen node at the top left of the dune desert so I could ship out sulfur and packaged nitrogen to my nuclear plant in a dedicated rail

[sick falcon]

is there any secret recipe combo for coke or is it just hor > coke

[tame jacinth]

Aluminum

Electrode scrap i think

[normal orbit]

that uses coke, doesnt make it

[ornate saffron]

that is the only non coal source for coal

well biocoal but as mentionmed above it has manuial input

[mossy fulcrum]

i love this game but my current pc would probably explode if i try to run it again, so i have to wait till when i upgrade in summer :😭

[normal orbit]

there is only HOR - > Coke, no alts available for it

[ornate saffron]

sad day.

[mossy fulcrum]

so im just playing factorio instead for now

[ornate saffron]

its a good fix...... you Ficsit

please dont banm me for puns

[rugged burrow]

Is anyone really good at finding stuff on maps? theres quartz that I cannot for the life of me find

[ornate saffron]

did you toggle on caves? (SCIM)

[rugged burrow]

...toggle caves?

[ornate saffron]

sorry ill start over. Are you using the interactive map?

[sick falcon]

is quartz purification worth using if im making lots of silica and crystal or should i still make them separately

[rugged burrow]

Oh, no just ingame

[ornate saffron]

in #math-and-meta there is a pin for SCIM its a interactive map allowing yotu to see where everything is.

I can try to help if that is to spoiler for you

[supple canopy]

yes if you need BOTH in large quantities, it's much much better

it's a super fun recipe chain too

[icy crest]

@sick falcon keep the hard drive without unlocking it and you'll never see either alt recipe again.
Imo one of the most useful rolls you can get in the game, you just never pick a recipe

Referring to your meme in #satisfactory-memes

[ornate saffron]

@sick falcon I like Biocoal

[dense violet]

if you need both? it's great

[sick falcon]

i just got to phase 5 and im trying to unlock every alt, i got that screenshot on purpose

[normal orbit]

It's actually more efficient to make em separately unfortunately. But I do enjoy setting up purification anyway

[icy crest]

Well, in that case, you're bound to unlock them anyway at some point, so no need to complain

You either invest one hard drive to remove two recipes from the pool or you get yourself one step closer to having all recipes unlocked

[sick falcon]

:(( thats so sad

[dense violet]

define more efficient? you get more total of both thatn you would otherwise

[dense violet]

please ignore them, they don't understand the recipes

[icy crest]

In a way, Ficsit would be proud for not unlocking those alts. Because you're actually very efficient by using only a single hard drive to ensure that two recipes won't show up again

[dense violet]

If you only need crystal OR silica, then sure, you would get less with crystal purification and silica distilation, because a ton of your output would be trashed
but if you need both, it outputs both a lot more than doing either individually

[copper grail]

I'm just wondering, what does "experimental power" under the sulfur tree unlock?

[ornate saffron]

A wild and wet powwer source

[copper grail]

Is it better than coal

[fickle locust]

Yes

[supple canopy]

in general, unless you are minmaxxing the game and intend to milk every single node of a particular resource, ignore every "recipe less efficient" suggestion

[copper grail]

thx

[copper grail]

Thx

[supple canopy]

you'll be missing out a lot of the game thinking this way

[ornate saffron]

All recipes are tools you pick the one that fits your situation.
this is whyt there is so many ways to make screws.

[leaden matrix]

Mmmmmmmmmm screwss🤤 🤤 🤤

[mystic oriole]

skip screws

[leaden matrix]

I lovvveee screws

[supple canopy]

until you unlock mk4, after that screws become acceptable again

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

[supple canopy]

actual chad setup

[ornate saffron]

a screw is always acceptable

[leaden matrix]

My 2nd favorite type of screws, :>

[ornate saffron]

just practical. when i play and I get to aluminum i always make a whole bauxite node worth. If i run out i do it again so i always have extra Aluminum. So for some reason i have to import a item in to make screws its always Aluminum

Id rather just use local resources

[normal orbit]

Like I said I do like purification. But in all my hours I've never been in a situation where it kinda makes sense production wise. If I need silica, make silica with the alt or if you need crystals make em. With purification I do kinda end up wasting quartz in the end. Tho it might be worth do setup a pure node on it or something to have a base production of both

I'd love some alts on purification to weigh production to either material

[reef basin]

why tho

[reef basin]

especially because there's nothing like "less efficient" recipe

[feral jay]

"Efficient" is a very subjective term

[reef basin]

and recipes on their own cannot be "more efficient" even if you define it

it's always about the whole chain

[feral jay]

Is it effiecient in terms of space? Power? Resources consumed? Contruction time? Complexity and therefore mental effort? (I'm sure I could come up with others)

[ornate saffron]

efficiencies subjective and different depending on goals some want a more compact build and are willing to sacrifice production for it or the just want to skip a machine.

the sooner you few recipes as a means to reach your objective the bettt off you are

[cold berry]

I've got constant steel flowing into my machines

I should boost the machines

The steel slows down

I should boost my foundries

I should add MORE machines, the steel is piling up

Rinse and repeat for 2 hours

That's been my Thursday

[feral jay]

Oh @reef basin I haz question - with a chain like this

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=nLrjBXTFMteXFalilMPj

Is it possible at all to do something like change that 10x residual rubber refinery box into a 5x residual rubber and 5x residual plastic, before the rest of the chain is solved?

[reef basin]

no, because it's solved all at same time, not one after another

[feral jay]

You're fired.

[reef basin]

you can't fire me, I quit

[feral jay]

I wonder what the best way to split it up into multiple solutions would be

[zenith pecan]

Nooo, but we need tools! 🙁

[reef basin]

(was a reference to asdfmovie)

[feral jay]

I just like saying "you're fired"

[zenith pecan]

The last time I planned via pen & paper was my very first nuclear installation, that was horrid with that method 🤣

[feral jay]

He open sourced it, so if he gets hit by a bus tomorrow (or leaves us for greener pastures) someone else can take up the mantle

[normal orbit]

You can be as intentionally obtuse as you want. My point still stands that unless you need the exakt ratio of Crystal to silica you're better off with other recipes.

[reef basin]

only people having access to API repo

[feral jay]

I jumped into that conversation in the middle of it, sorry, I'm lacking context and kinda trying to be funny

[ornate saffron]

you are trying alright

😛

[feral jay]

I've never failed at least. I just keep finding more things that don't work.

[ornate saffron]

im never wrong, I thought i was once.

But i was mistaken

[feral jay]

"I thought I was wrong, but I was wrong."

Love me a recursive joke

[ornate saffron]

@buoyant pivot You tell me. What did it feel like punching it

[next ivy]

sqishy

[hybrid nymph]

Answer,: YES!

[next ivy]

infant annihilator

[ornate saffron]

thats what i call my Biocoal setup that turns animal parts into ammo

[hybrid nymph]

I am not a fan of kids lol 😆

[ornate saffron]

Imma DINK for lfe
Double
Income
No
Kids

[feral jay]

I love being a funcle

[cold berry]

But what if I made children and forced them into labor. Isn't that supposed to be the goal? Child labor? That makes it all worth it

Our society can be great once more with child labor

Imagine the productivity

[next ivy]

its a band

[neon forge]

chat i've reached the point where i'm gonna have to make.... heavy modular frames :doomer:

also gonna have to finally learn trains which i should have done on my first run but decided that clearly dragging belts across the map was a better idea

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=mPfiQlheSlpuDyheMGEq

a resource efficient set of recipes

Also trains are easy if you keep them easy. 2 lanes, trains go between A to B

[ornate saffron]

im aware. I broswe the Metal-Archives often

[coral glacier]

Cobalt! Heya.

I've managed to get under the map.

:)

[neon forge]

wait, 2 lanes? one for delivery and one for retrieving?

[dense violet]

being a tunnel rat like @zenith pecan ?

[dense violet]

no, 2 lanes like a road. a lane for each direction

[coral glacier]

Tunnel? No.
My entire power plant will reside beneath the world.

[ornate saffron]

he has all the worlds SAM being refined down there

[coral glacier]

Not that, not at the moment.
I might have to use a cheat mod for more ore deposits because i don't think i will have enough Uranium.

[ornate saffron]

i ment taromani has all the sam down there plus logistics tunnels

[dense violet]

why? you can make 600gw just with what's on the map

[coral glacier]

I need the terawatts of power.

[reef basin]

I don't think you need that much to process most of the map lol

what do you need it for?

(and you can make like 14TW with nuclear afaik)

[coral glacier]

My main power production will be from 800 fully overclocked power plants.

Plutonium*

[reef basin]

umm... I don't think that's possible

[coral glacier]

I will make it possible.

[reef basin]

it's quite literally not possible in the game

[ornate saffron]

hence the mods i guess

[reef basin]

eh, your PC won't handle that anyway, and you won't use all that production either

[coral glacier]

How do you know what my computer can handle?

[reef basin]

because best consumer grade PCs on the planet can't handle factory half your size

[coral glacier]

That's their issue then.

[reef basin]

so I guess you have a NASA supercomputer then or something 🤷

[coral glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange kindle]

Do we have like, signs or anything?

So I can lable hypertube entrances

[elfin smelt]

yes

awesome shop

[simple wing]

is the nitro rocket fuel not really worth?

[reef basin]

that depends on what you yourself find worth

[simple wing]

I think it uses more nitogen gas than making the acid and regular recipe

[ornate saffron]

much energy but much space use

[dense violet]

eh nitrogen is a bit of a trash resource. But also rocket fuel isn't really worth it. You need 1000 fuel gens for serious power

[strange kindle]

Awesome, thank you <3

[zenith pecan]

Build towers, it's a gas, much space saved 🙂

[ornate saffron]

im pro Nitro rocket fuel to be clear lol

but its a choice one of many

[zenith pecan]

I still have nukes on the cards even though they're not actually needed.

[simple wing]

I i was planning on like 800 rocket fuel and 300 turbo fuel gens

[zenith pecan]

Why both?

[dense violet]

yeah that's pretty gross. Endless fields of generators

instead of 1100 fuel gens
110 nuclear gens.

[simple wing]

I'm wanting a big energy coushion before I play with nuclear power

tis my first playthrough

[zenith pecan]

Rocket fuel alone can generate a lot, turbo on top feels like extra steps.

[rugged geyser]

how many power shards can you make with all the power slugs and with a somersloop 2x bonus

[simple wing]

haven't checked.

[simple wing]

I was basically trying to use all the oil in the blue crater to make some sort of power

[next ivy]

1.458
||but you can make more with a recipe later on||
actually its a bit less than that, since you need some slugs for research

[simple wing]

I like the rows and rows lol

[zenith pecan]

I did pretty much that, went mildly nuts with 600+ metre towers there.

[spiral summit]

bruh how many times do i have to execute a bean for clipping into my construction area

[clear night]

That basically where I build my power plant till I get to nuclear then a move it all and turn it into a production hub for the region

Overall I’m trying to get back to oil since I had to start over

[simple wing]

I have big goals

I've tore down my main factory 3 times

[wide sonnet]

Ahh you bastard! You made me realize I've been leaving shards on the table! Noooooooooo

[tall lantern]

Over 5000 shards

[zenith pecan]

I'm rebuilding now, I do have a history of building a little on the larger scale though.

[clear night]

That’s the satisfactory way

I can’t wait till I unlock blueprints again since after that is when I go insane.

[simple wing]

why did you have to start over?

[clear night]

Moved from Xbox to pc

[simple wing]

ah. how many hours did you have in it?

[wheat cedar]

Hello guys, could you answer one question, which website can I use to create the idea for my factory to see if it's worth doing in the game?

[acoustic bear]

phase 5 unlocks the ability to make power shards

[tall lantern]

sure, but you can still get 5k before then (and more from doggos)

[wide sonnet]

check pins in #math-and-meta

[tall lantern]

as in a production planner? A few options, popular one is Tools: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[clear night]

I think around 70-90. I had just hit nuclear age

[fallen prairie]

Hi guys, quick question, do we actually use any of the space station components for other builds? I have a feeling I may have setup my factory with too much focus on those items. I'm trying not to spoil too much of the game so haven't checked videos or guides unless I was stuck. Thanks!

[tall lantern]

most spelevator stuff is only used directly for spelevator, or as subparts of later spelevator parts
there is one exception later

[clear night]

As far as I know nope, they are only used for space stations stuff

[reef basin]

worst case they give you good sink points, so there's not an issue if you build them

[fallen prairie]

Ahhhhhhh okay gotcha, so I can save power as well for that stuff. Had a hunch.

[next ivy]

doesnt the codex show how many recipes an item is used in, even if that recipe isnt unlocked yet

or was that removed since EA

[fallen prairie]

I did look there, but it doesn't show for me as I haven't unlocked everything

[wide sonnet]

split them before the last machine, most of the components are useful for building and research

[clear night]

Take what I say with a grain of salt since I haven’t made it past nuclear age

[fallen prairie]

Haha all good I'm also quite early! Just unlocked tier 5 and 6 and can't wait to get Jetpack!!!

And I was very late with the Sink stuff as I love to hoard lol

[clear night]

Same, I just unlocked steel in my newest playthrough so I still got a bit to go till I’m back where I was at

[fallen prairie]

Don't have ladders or crosswalks so am building foundations all over lol

This game takes soooo long if you have just the slightest OCD lol

But I'm loving it!

[last bluff]

how do I tame the plant birbs?

[weak bloom]

does a train station not snap to an existing track?

[clear night]

You can only take the doggo

[ornate saffron]

i was ho\ping i could drop nuts into their open mouth too

[weak bloom]

also when a train stops at a station the locomotive counts for the station 'platform' in terms of spacing out the cargo stuff right? so if I want to plan ahead and leave room for a 2-locomotive train I should do like
station -> empty -> [cargo x however many]
?

[tall lantern]

if that's where you put your second engine, yes

[dense violet]

but in general you don't want multiple trains stopping at the same station

[weak bloom]

yeah I am just thinking if I want like 2 locomotives + 8 freight cars eventually

there's a lot of resource at this location

[dense violet]

in most cases 'futureproofing' is a poor idea

[onyx forge]

yo smw wanna start a new safe file with me ?

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[weak bloom]

you're not wrong but just looking at the map I feel that this one train line is not gonna be expanded for quite a while so I'm okay going overboard on it initially, even if I'll rebuild the network way down the line

wait I just realized I'm only loading at this side so why the heck am I building two stations

[dense violet]

it kinda sounds like you were planning on a train doing multiple stops?

each train doesn't have much throughput on it's own

[weak bloom]

nah I was just overthinking it

I cannot believe this bird #screenshots message

I exploded it with a nobelisk

[ornate saffron]

aa bit extrreme. a love tap would have done the trick

[weak bloom]

no mercy

[dense violet]

rude

[weak bloom]

it interrupted the factory, this is unforgivable

[ornate saffron]

i petty steve

[short spade]

Yooo, do awesome tickets expire??

[weak bloom]

no, I think you can even dismantle all your sinks and if you craft one again they'll stay there

[short spade]

Huh.. welp, I had a few.. aaand they’re gone

[ornate saffron]

nope ytou can even putthem back in the sink

[wide sonnet]

i keep mine in the store kiosk

[short spade]

All is well, user error. I’ll spare the details but thanks

[onyx forge]

thanks

[ornate saffron]

can be frustrating

[short spade]

Artful intelligence haha

No soul but it’ll always be subjective. Art in general

[ornate saffron]

i found out yesterday Instagram decided to add my Full Legal name under my instagram name on my profile. For anyone to see without even logging in

[sage musk]

jo guys, where can i found quarz?

[ornate saffron]

if you started in the grass lands ithere is some in the Purple Forest to the east

ya it pissed me off

[next ivy]

look for the research that unlock the quartz scanner

[sage musk]

do you have screen?

[next ivy]

then hit v to scan for it

[oblique hound]

ohhh my god...

i had a factory that i built a couple months ago for 3300 plastic and 2100 rubber using the full loop

it never worked right, and after spending like 10 hours troubleshooting i gave up and moved on

i was working on another factory in the vicinity and noticed that a belt was missing on a machine

replaced it and now it works perfectly, fml

[ornate saffron]

you can check SCIM pinned in #math-and-meta if you want exact locations

[next ivy]

||satisfactory-calculator.com||

[oblique hound]

*i replaced this darned 8 to 8 load balancer 4 times *

[sage musk]

thx

[sage musk]

thx

[serene palm]

how much overclocking do you need to put on an unpure miner Mk. 1 to make it produce as if it were producing from a pure iron ore deposit

[ornate saffron]

cant be done

[serene palm]

or would you need a second unpure deposit

[peak wasp]

Ngl coal power is only good for early game if ur automating the bare minimum space elevator parts you need, outside that skip it entirely and research biomass it's better.

[serene palm]

oh

[peak wasp]

Skip using impure nodes unless you use refineries and the wet version to double the ore you get

[ornate saffron]

My rule of thumb is max OC all miners

[peak wasp]

You probably need maybe 5 to 10g watts of power before you get to oil power stuff

[serene palm]

balright

[oblique hound]

#screenshots message

this whole thing that i spent that long on got brought down by 4 alclad sheets worth of belt

[autumn path]

but a belt of 240 coal only feeds 7.5 generators

[peak wasp]

Save the coal for rocket fuel turn a 600 oil node into over 100 gigawatts of power

[autumn path]

save? nodes don't run out

[weak bloom]

all right I have finished all of tier 5 and 6 milestones without even automating heavy modular frames 🙃 the power of distraction

[peak wasp]

No, but nobody likes tearing down factories to send the resources somewhere else

I'm starting to build blueprints and wish I had early game would have made everything so much faster

[sick ferry]

go respond to my group invite I am looking for a friend

[autumn path]

a full pipe feeds 8 but a line of 240 feeds 7.5. You have to either overload the miners to hit 270, or use mergers and splitters to feed 270 to each row of generators

[scenic timber]

Where's a good place to build the my first computer factory? Near Northern Forest starting point? Already have a temporary oil refinery set up on the spire coast.

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[dense violet]

play around with the recipes you're using for it as that can change your requirements a lot, then pick a spot 🙂

[dense violet]

if you're doing base recipes that's just copper and oil https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=rFaIAwdKYLHmW08G7pcM

[elder skiff]

I feel so stupid ive just realised it'll probably take less time to rip up and replace my off foundations with foundations that are actually on grid than it would to restart completely

Im so clever !!!!!!! 😭😭

[reef basin]

grid is a trap

[elder skiff]

Elaborate?

Please before I do this 😭

[reef basin]

no reason to put everything on same grid

[elder skiff]

Wouldn't it make connecting everything up easier ?

[hybrid nymph]

I'm still upset that cobalt blocked me for literally no reason at all

[proven snow]

I wouldn't listen too much to Deer. Looks like they've been playing for 4 years and are giving advice on how to metagame and speedrun the hell out of the game.

Which is good advice for an experienced player but kinda ruins the joy of learning and not really applicable to a new player

[reef basin]

you can connect things without foundations

and most of the time you don't even want to connect factories

[dense violet]

1. you never have to link up each factory with foundations
2. even if yo udo want to, you can easily link up factories not on the same grid

[reef basin]

and if you still want to connect it and with foundations, you can connect it easily

[dense violet]

3. the world grid is extremely restrictive to design

[dense violet]

this one neat trick the World Grid doesn't want you to know about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_2i8T3Dbw

nope

buffers usually harm flow

only place you need them is train stations

anything you want delivered?

not just water, oil is a common transport too

[grim carbon]

I've just unlocked and equipped what i must say is the coolest Ficsit tech yet

[dense violet]

though it's much easier to build next to water than move a lot of it

[grim carbon]

The hover pack!

[flat lion]

I have the -DX12 launch option on from when I last played the game in 2023, do I still need this?

[dense violet]

as long as your belt is fast enough for hte parts per min it doesn't matter how you split it

how much coal pm are you trying to put on a mk1 belt?

your miners tell you how much they are mining

you always have full control and knowledge of what you're putting on belts

that's not a number

systems in the game are small and straight forward. Keep notes or put up signs

[next ivy]

bought from the shop yes

i mark my blueprints with signs, telling me how much each one consumes and produces :P

[dense violet]

post images of what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta

[next ivy]

its got some neat stuff
but you can finish the game without ever building the shop i think

[dense violet]

it's probably a very simple fix

use P for photomode

[ornate saffron]

@true sonnet build to the height limit while there.

Beauty eh!

[ornate saffron]

True.... but the boom box and the goat simulator soundtrack are needs not wants

[true sonnet]

I just jumped off, but quite the sight yeah.

[dense violet]

photomode lets you take pics from above and other angles, hence the suggestion

[weary latch]

@glad drum #screenshots message absolute beaty

still looks efficient tho

[hybrid nymph]

I understand this

[sick falcon]

whats the best recipe for getting rid of nuclear waste

if i dont care about how much plutonium fuel i get

[weary latch]

off a cliff

[hybrid nymph]

Reprocessing it into plutonium fuel rods, which you can then use in the nuclear reactor or awesome sink

[ornate saffron]

Doggo farm plus rebar gun

[hybrid nymph]

Plutonium fuel rods last twice as long as uranium fuel rods do, and on top of that they only produce 1/10 of the waste that uranium rods do

[glad drum]

Thank you thank you - it is efficient, in a way... load balanced of course

[flat lion]

Setting the game to autosave every minute 😍

[proven snow]

Does it still skyrocket you if it saves while flying a jetpack?

[reef basin]

which waste? and how do you define "best"?

[dense violet]

the base recipes use the least resources?

and most waste

[sick falcon]

uranium waste, and whatever lets me turn it into something sinkable the fastest

at what point can i sink it do i have to go all the way to plutonium fuel rods?

[dense violet]

all the way

[bitter niche]

Yo @dense violet how many times have you beaten the game?

[dense violet]

actually sent off the last phase? never 😄

after I unlock all the tiers I just do my own thing

[reef basin]

you need to get to Pu rods anyway. Which way you do it really depends on you (it's same number of steps no matter the recipes, the only thing that changes is other ingredients)

[bitter niche]

really? No kidding, this is my first time playing, I'm currently on tier 3

I have never tried this game before, and I was told by a friend what if I like FactorIO that I would like it

[ornate saffron]

You dont need to even see the ender dragon to enjoy Minecraft

[bitter niche]

this isn't Minecraft through? lol

[reef basin]

ender dragon is like mid-game boss at this point

[ornate saffron]

Its a sandbox game.

[dense violet]

closer to minecraft than factorio

[bitter niche]

yeah, but shouldn't chat about Minecraft be in the #off-topic-general channel?

[ornate saffron]

Ive never seen not fought it lol but I have lots of Minecraft hours lol

[reef basin]

the two games are completely different tbh. They basically only share "factory builder" genre

[dense violet]

the phases can be completed with the dirtiest sloppiest factories

[bitter niche]

I'm just trying to keep things in the right channel, got banned from a different gaming channel because I didn't keep things in the right channels

[ornate saffron]

My point is, it is a sandbox game. Get messy make mistakes. The stakes are low. Dismantling gives you 100% of the parts back

[reef basin]

I want mah shulker boxes

[weary latch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[bitter niche]

I was part of a facebook Minecraft group and they kicked me out for not keeping things in the right channels, so trying to avoid that here

[ornate saffron]

Fair lol

[bitter niche]

I'm very nerveous about getting banned from Discord channels, because it has happened to me several times 😟

so please go easy on me, I do have autism 😓 I'm doing my best....

[ornate saffron]

We are pretty chill here. Be respectful and move channels if the request is reasonable and you'll be fine

And dont listen to the screw hate lol

[dense violet]

it's pretty chill dw bout it. Also we were comparing satisfactory and minecraft so it was totally on topic 🙂

[ornate saffron]

I have yet to be banned for bad puns........

[bitter niche]

Thank you just making sure

[spare prism]

Hi

[ornate saffron]

[bitter niche]

I got banned from a yugioh discord channel before because I blamed the META players for the game being terrible, the admins didn't like me trash talking their prescious META players...

[spare prism]

I just completed phase 3

[bitter niche]

so dumb...

[bitter niche]

Awesome, what does phase 3 unlock?

[ornate saffron]

Woot woot! ||Mk5 belts incoming a||

[spare prism]

Phase 4 🤣

[bitter niche]

ooh a spoiler, there are Mk5 belts?

I didn't know it went past mk3?

[buoyant pivot]

AMAZING!!!!!!!

[ornate saffron]

Lol. You chose to read that

[ornate saffron]

Holy delayed response batman. I hope I didn't wake you

[bitter niche]

@ornate saffron mind if I call you Beef?

[buoyant pivot]

i was pooping lol

[bitter niche]

eww TMI lol

[spare prism]

Have you never read into the game lol

[ornate saffron]

I ain't got beef with that.

Although beefalo taste better

[bitter niche]

No I haven't I am playing it blindly

[spare prism]

Man if there was jump scares you would be toast 🤣

[bitter niche]

the only thing I know from talking to a friend is that the MAM is your best friend

[dense violet]

very correct

[spare prism]

Mam only wants to control you don’t listen to it 🤣

[proven snow]

Yes Ma'am

[ornate saffron]

Its good but lacks mammories and memories

Still waiting for the date everything update

[bitter niche]

oh good I was correct, I've already unlocked as many recipies as I can at tier 3 so far

very useful

[cunning glade]

is it a bad idea too have multiple drones going too one port or is that even possible

[bitter niche]

drone? there are drones in this game?

[cunning glade]

ig i just sort the output

[proven snow]

shhhh

[cunning glade]

into respective chest

[ornate saffron]

... there are many things of great value

[cunning glade]

maybe

[sick falcon]

can i make it so a drone will only make a trip if theres room at the port its headed to?

[dense violet]

you generally don't want more than 2 drones to any port

[bitter niche]

hey @dense violet can I PMyou?

[dense violet]

sure

[spare prism]

74 hours into game rn

[glad drum]

#screenshots message its moments like these where I'm really glad I have "Keep Inventory" enabled

[ornate saffron]

You should play hardcore soft lock

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message Finished up my 2nd of 3 factories damn near right before re9 releases. No way I’m getting the third one done till next week.

[glad drum]

what is

[glacial drum]

Actually I do have a 62 mod frame/min factory already so I can use that I suppose

Yea nvm.. that factory will take over 26 hours to gather what I need

[ornate saffron]

Find a nice flat area for your hub.

Place power poles in a tight grid around then place the hub ontop making it so the spawn area is filled with power pole.

When you die and spawn the power poles pushes you through the map and you fall to your death.

@glad drum

[glad drum]

That sounds like the worst thing in the world

[proven snow]

Back when I played with friends anytime they went afk I'd trap them in a prison of power poles

[ornate saffron]

Its hardcore mode lol.

To be clear I ain't doing this either lol. Your post reminded me of it though

[proven snow]

Not their spawn though, but just their current location

[glad drum]

basically just gotta use blueprints

[wide sonnet]

i know ramp has 4 angles...

but only up/down. there's no left/right angling at all

[next ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_2i8T3Dbw

[ornate saffron]

You can hold ctrl and mouse wheel to turn your foundations. When you get the angle you like press h. Then use the arrow keys to nudge it. You can overlap other foundations making a angle piece.

The concrete material and asphalt material hide the overlap well if that bothers you

[glad drum]

Ah you'll get to it, yeah sucks for now you gotta just roll with the overlapping stuff

[ornate saffron]

While in hold mode you can also use page up and down to move held items along the z axis

Like many sandbox games you sometimes have to get creative with the tools given to you

[glad drum]

Man I haven't thought about Space Engineers in a long time what a ridiculous game lmao

[ornate saffron]

Exactly

I made my crocodile train hub in vanilla

#design-and-architecture message

[coral glacier]

Do not embrace spaghetti, embrace symmetry and order.

[ornate saffron]

Embrace fun and joy in this game. And whatever that entails

[coral glacier]

Soon enough, you'll think orderly when you plan a build.

:D

[glad drum]

#screenshots message say that to my face in my world

[ornate saffron]

I have adhd and autism. Half my builds are orderly the other half messy lol

[coral glacier]

#screenshots message Right back at you.

[glad drum]

i kinda like it, the chaos of being under the map

[ornate saffron]

He is trying to gameitout

[proven snow]

relateable

[glad drum]

Would you believe that nothing is clipping into each other either

[coral glacier]

Gravity assisted water > powering pumps for 1600 water extractors.

[next ivy]

are you an avid believer of the BOX

[ornate saffron]

Its entertainment not knowledge building.

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[native tapir]

It is also knowledge building. Thanks. -Doug

[next ivy]

BOX tm
#screenshots message

[coral glacier]

I learn what Not to do when watching his videos.

[ornate saffron]

Look at the post below the crocodile.

[native tapir]

I believe Josh was a pioneer of pioneering

[next ivy]

glorious box

too much glass tho

looking inside of box is not good

[ornate saffron]

I build with a theme in mind. The box and the pagoda are on a cliff overlooking the river and crocodile

[void cliff]

You can’t place a conveyor belt support on top of a conveyor without causing clipping

[ornate saffron]

Looking out from box though is 🤌

[coral glacier]

@glad drum It was said that you would destroy the chaos, not join it! Bring balance to the factory, not leave it in spaghetti! ||🤣||

[next ivy]

gaze through the window

[coral glacier]

Probably gonna say something like: "If you're not Spaghetti, then you're my enemy!"

🤣

[next ivy]

👄

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[coral glacier]

👄

[glad drum]

We're taking the spaghetti to Isengard!

[soft marsh]

I need to build my phase 4 parts but I dont feel like it lol

[coral glacier]

"Cast it into the fire, destroy it!"

[ornate saffron]

Then dont. Drink water, stretch and pet a doggo

[soft marsh]

Oh I have lol I havent really played in a acouple days because of it

[ornate saffron]

Breaks are good. Just dont let ada see

[soft marsh]

True. Definitely abused my microbreaks

[coral glacier]

The best part is when she requests that you take breaks, But that's when you keep playing for 8 more hours.

[soft marsh]

I need to automate them but im torn between trying to just make everything onsite or bus in the little parts somehow

[coral glacier]

Conveyor everything, done.

The radiation wears off pretty quickly.

[soft marsh]

I didnt go to culinary school

[last mason]

any reccomendations for recipies for a turbofuel powerplant at the blue lake?

[coral glacier]

Was it obsolete?

[ornate saffron]

@bitter crow you just did this ya?

[last mason]

I just dont want to tear it down later untill i get nucelar

[ornate saffron]

I usually skip turbo.

If no one responds and you want some idea totalxplise does turbo fuel there in his current playthrough. Although it was a month or two ago.

[last mason]

im in phase 2 rn

[last mason]

ty

[coral glacier]

Wonderful meme:

#satisfactory-memes message

[ornate saffron]

Im trying to make diluted packaged fuel last me until nuclear. Currently one pure oil node gives me 20gw of power. Im near the end of phase 3 so I may make it (i usually do nitro rocket fuel)

[last mason]

holy crap

[coral glacier]

I go from Biofuel -> Nuclear Power -> Dyson Spheres.

[last mason]

dyson shperes!?

[coral glacier]

Yep!

Though the dysons sphere are on another program.

[proven snow]

Yeah on my last playthrough I made a big fuel plant (not even turbo or anything, just regular) which could have prob lasted me the whole game.

I eventually dabbled in a bit of nuclear for the fun of it

[last mason]

dysonshphere program?

[coral glacier]

I just pretend it's satisfactory

[proven snow]

Next playthrough I'm putting a lot of limitations on myself to develop new and interesting ways to play

[coral glacier]

Rookie numbers, you gotta up those numbers.

[proven snow]

I'll probably be downing the numbers. Next run I won't overclock oil extractors

[cunning glade]

Is there a reason why

[coral glacier]

Go from Biofuel directly to Nuclear, that should spice things up.

[ornate saffron]

I did bio to geo to nitrorocket fuel once.

I ended that playthrough with around 1tw of power....only used 250gw mind you

[coral glacier]

The best kind of overengineering is producing 10x more energy than what you're actually going to be using.

[glacial drum]

Now how the hell are you making so much off of just fuel

[west jackal]

nitro rocket??

[glacial drum]

Beefy is using just diluted packaged

Which tbf I don’t know the ratios of..

[ornate saffron]

My current build ya.

Oil to hor to packaged fuel.

Then unpacker and feed into generators.

[coral glacier]

I wish i could remove all of the unnecessary geolocations that are beyond the bounding borders.

[ornate saffron]

Its not so bad. I manually place the refineries to make the heavy oil residue. Then I pair then in groups of 3 for mini manifold nodes. Then pipe the HOR to a blueprint I made with a refinery and two packagers each node of them was 5 ( i think ) then I send the fuel to generators

[cunning glade]

Okay so aluminum is wacky

[ornate saffron]

Its a lesson in fluid byproduct management

[west jackal]

they kept trying to convince me 1:1:1 was the only good way for dpf, but i like your method better

im only going to do 600 crude into dpf this playthrough (as opposed to 1800)

[ornate saffron]

Its a walk before you run thing. 1:1:1 is valid

[west jackal]

just need enough to get to nuclear

ive never done 1:1:1 before

[weak bloom]

if I have two locomotives on a train, do I need to set both of them to travel the route, or just the one in front?

[cunning glade]

What does one need quartz for

Like for phase4 and 5

[ornate saffron]

just the lead train engine.

[ornate saffron]

manyt things Aluminumfor example

[cunning glade]

Besides aluminum

Like I wanna make around 15k a min I think and in order for that too happen I need 12300 quartz a min

Leaving me with not much on the map

[ornate saffron]

phase 5 has || matter conversion and time crystals that can use it ||

[cunning glade]

And if I do just electrode

I can only make around 12k

Or wait no that's with pure ingots

[cunning glade]

Wouldn't it just be matter conversion

Cuz for time crystals I plan on oil and coal

[glad drum]

#screenshots message i just wanna say thank god for water towers, it was so annoying to need to do this for every individual pipe (before i found out about this)

[cunning glade]

What in God's name is that

[ornate saffron]

if you want a detailed answer check the wiki. I dont hav e it all memorized ^_^

[cunning glade]

Yeah valid

[glad drum]

gotta get my water up the mountain somehow

[coral glacier]

Good question.

[unborn nova]

what does that do?

oh nvm

[glad drum]

it makes it so you only need to make your water reach that level once (so if you're transporting like 10 pipes of liquid, you don't have to use pumps on every one, as long as they flow through this)

[unborn nova]

didnt see ur other message is it literally just for verticle transport

[unborn nova]

how do 10 pipes flow through that 1

[coral glacier]

That monstrosity, though useful, is why i am building my facility underneath the map, so i don't have to deal with weird water shenanigans.

[glad drum]

well, 8 in this instance but each pipe only needs like 20 water

[unborn nova]

ohj

[glad drum]

but I like to load balance at the source and then bring an ungodly amount of pipe/conveyor across the map

[unborn nova]

i thought u meant like max flow pipes lol

[unborn nova]

gotcha

[coral glacier]

Duh, why is it so wobbly looking?

[glad drum]

I mean, you can do that too

[glad drum]

Leaning tower of Spaghetti

[glad drum]

You can feed max-flow through a water tower through though I think... cause it just has to be connected to the system, not necessarily flowing exactly through it if that makes sense

[coral glacier]

Your entire mindset for satisfactory is this: "The only thing that matters are the numbers, not how the stuff gets from point A to B"

[cunning glade]

Holy there's a lot of limestone

[coral glacier]

I should ask, are you working with the numbers at all? 🤣

[unborn nova]

i think that makes sense

[glad drum]

LOL Yes. my 240 iron splits into the 8 refineries requiring 30 each perfectly.

Honestly, to craft spaghetti this intricate, you kind of have to do the math LOL

[coral glacier]

Tbh, i think thats harder than building orderly.

[grim carbon]

does anyone here use the mod called Infinite Nudge?

[coral glacier]

The thing i hate the most is when you are making pipes or conveyors, is that each length is DISPROPORTIONATE

[grim carbon]

why can't i get it to work?

[dense violet]

They have a long take off landing animation and drones are so fast you often can’t squeeze 3 landing times

It’s not impossible but annoying

[glad drum]

wait whatchu mean

[weak bloom]

so as the train loops, it will always do the animation of loading and unloading the depot but if the train is full or partially full, it just won't transfer the entire container's worth?

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=JG6JYSdmMyIqykU4Lwg0 okay i managed too half my quartz use almost tho i may scale down too like 15k or something

[dense violet]

It very much also depends on how much throughput you’re doing on each

[coral glacier]

When you're building, you're using an uneven amount of materials.
So you can't estimate the exact amount of prep material and have to get more unless you have a dimensional depot.

[cunning glade]

i think this time i only need one drone

[weak bloom]

so I think right now it looks like it's going to run a lot of nearly-empty cars until the depot buffers on both ends are saturated, and then it will just keep going around the loop with mostly full cars

[cunning glade]

but i use drones for low throughput items like hmf computers etc

[coral glacier]

Please tell me you are using a dimensional depot....

[cunning glade]

okay so theoretically for a full nuclear loop i need 4800 triangles?

[coral glacier]

Triangle?

[ornate saffron]

ficsit trigons

[coral glacier]

Ah.

Ficsit Terraprisma when.

[glad drum]

I haven't even realized this haha but I use thousands of materials just to get one resource from A to B

[coral glacier]

You're crazier than i am.

Congratz.

[ornate saffron]

..... I've spent to many steel beams. One bridge was like four freight cars lol

[cunning glade]

how does one even make the ficsonium fuel rods tools wont say

[coral glacier]

You both need a Dimension Depot, good grief.

[ornate saffron]

They fill to slow. I kept running out so I just filled a train so when I ran out in the depot I can fill my inventory from the train then continue building

[coral glacier]

#screenshots message This, just, why

[glad drum]

Thank you.

This is why I've never noticed and why it takes like 10 minutes to get a bit of water up to my base #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[coral glacier]

I knoww, i've SEEN IT.

[cunning glade]

okay maybe i dont wanna do ficsonium

[west jackal]

that bridge is gorgeous

[coral glacier]

I Agree.

[ornate saffron]

Heh sorry. I hate myself. But proud of this

[west jackal]

i havent figured out vertical curves like that

[glad drum]

That's pretty cool but imagine if you had spaghetti hanging off of it and wrapping around it

[coral glacier]

Might i introduce to you, the 3rd dimension.

[hexed nymph]

what should i pick between cast screws and molded beams? its like picking a favorite child

[ornate saffron]

My first save (completely broke from pre unreal 5) looks closer to your stuff then my stuff lol

[west jackal]

lol my first saves are too corrupted, cant even see the spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

Niether. Leave them there in the corner until one is needed

[cunning glade]

i mean with 60 pasta a min that should be enough for nuclear

[last mason]

is making diluted packaged fuel better than making turbo heavy fuel with hor?

[sick falcon]

i think youll need more than 1 dimensional depot for that much steel

[sick falcon]

NEVER make turbo heavy fuel

[hexed nymph]

well i dont really have trouble with screws and im on phase 4, on the contrary my steel production is lacking since i picked something else over an alternate steel recipe with coke

[sick falcon]

make diluted fuel (not the packaged one), its top 5 alternate recipes in the game

[last mason]

im in phase 2

[hexed nymph]

and im using coke for circuit boards

[last mason]

no blender

[dense violet]

Doing that you can probably land more than 2 more easily then since they’ll just buffer at thr loading port

[last mason]

the ratio is the same aslo

[coral glacier]

@glad drum Though it's atrocious, it does match the area pretty well. It reminds me of those weird giant protrusions throughout the map.

[cunning glade]

how do i figure out how much plutonium waste i can make

[coral glacier]

Take into account the over/underclocking of your reactor per minute.

[west jackal]

how do you guys decide if something is too far to belt?

[cunning glade]

i see why a perfect loop is hard too make

[west jackal]

its about 400 meters, it feels too long to belt, but too short for trains, i could use a truck, but that seems excessive?

[cunning glade]

i havent even started i wanna do ficsonium loop using all of the uranium on the map

issue its confusing

[coral glacier]

I suggest simply sticking with the belt. Trains require added infrastructure.

Along with trucks.

[cunning glade]

just trying too setup the tools so ik what i need

but tools doesnt let me maximize fics fuel rods

[west jackal]

its a coal node, so i can just overclock it a little more to provide power to the truck...\

[coral glacier]

Reminder: You can do whatever you want, i'm just giving suggestions :)

[cunning glade]

i wonder why that is or if greeny did it on purpose

i could just make all of the aluminum then i dont have too worry about not enough

[ornate saffron]

It lands on what you are comfortable

[west jackal]

oh, i know. i was asking for suggestions

ig ill build my first truck on this save

trains are too big for such a small distance

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[cunning glade]

@reef basin hopefully u dont mind the ping but why is this

[coral glacier]

Here and sometimes reddit are somewhat adequate places to find help with the best methods of transportation depending on the distance of two locations. :)

[ornate saffron]

If you are doing trucks do you have a fuel source in mind?

[west jackal]

im transporting coal, so uh... coal?

[coral glacier]

I recommend Plutonium, but that's just me >:)

[sick falcon]

drone

[ornate saffron]

Makes sense ^-^

[cunning glade]

ik but i wanna do the cool one

[west jackal]

i guess ill just go with truck, i assume its worth using truck over tractor right?

and what kind of ramps can trucks handle

[cunning glade]

the issue i need too know how many triangles i need

idk how too do that

cuz i wanna make aluminum

and i wanna make between 12-15k preferably 12 if i can get away with it

[ornate saffron]

Instead of pinging him directly they the tools discord. The link is on the tools website

[cunning glade]

oh didnt know they had one

[cunning glade]

and fair but in the past he hasnt minded too my knowledge and hes online only reason i did it

[ornate saffron]

Scim does too ^-^

I didn't either. He told me when I asked him something.

I didn't ping him mind you He was already active

[cunning glade]

normally i do dislike direct pinging someone tho

[coral glacier]

Goodthinking, goodquestion.

[ornate saffron]

Same so I thought id pass along the info

[coral glacier]

:)

[cunning glade]

okay but how can i figure out fics rods

[ornate saffron]

Math i use pad and pencil.

But I Haven't done nuclear yet. So I havent figured out it yet

[coral glacier]

What i do is let my brain do the work.
While i do the worm.

[hexed nymph]

whats the best fuel for fuel powered generators mid-game

[coral glacier]

🪱

[hexed nymph]

turbo fuel?

[glad drum]

#screenshots message THIS is my annoying thing - pipes!!! everyone complains about pipes but tbh it's not the flowing liquid that is the problem its them NOT CONNECTING to each other properly

[cunning glade]

i can make 30.544 plutonium rods a min but idk how waste works

[coral glacier]

I love that you have to deal with that too.

[glad drum]

#screenshots message it happens so often I think I have to just start deleting every single support as soon as it places

[ornate saffron]

I can only speak for myself i tend to skip turbo fuel. And stick with regular fuel.

Then move to nitro rocket fuel when I have blenders.

This time im holding out for nuclear

[weak bloom]

so I presume with smart/programmable splitters and very careful math on travel time and throughput it is probably possible for one station to handle multiple trains coming from different places, but I imagine it's probably Not Worth, and just have more than one station if you need multiple trains to the same location, right?

[sick falcon]

#screenshots message can a drone sustain 200 items/min over this distance using rocket fuel

[coral glacier]

I just remove the pipes and reconnect them to the supports.