satisfactory

[languid vine]

I’m a 340mw production

[gloomy tusk]

bro how do the pipes even make it 🙏

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome, I'm proud of you

[hybrid nymph]

The world may never know 😅🙏

[hybrid nymph]

Assuming tier 2?

[languid vine]

I also have TONS of biomass being automatically being fed into all those biomasses that’ll prolly last me 4 days of gameplay STRAIGHT

[gloomy tusk]

watching anime with my cat on my lap has to be a 10/10 experience

[hybrid nymph]

Nice 🙂

[languid vine]

T2 last milestone for it

I’m about to sacrifice to the space elevator

[hybrid nymph]

Oh I was doing some thinking today, if we're going to put a stop to climate change, cryptocurrency MUST GO!

It's too energy intensive, and unless it goes 100% renewables, it needs to be phased out. It's mind almost entirely by using fossil fuels. Not to mention it creates millions of tons of e-waste

[languid vine]

Facts

[hybrid nymph]

It's two wasteful in terms of energy, carbon emissions, and natural resources that have to be mined in order to make electronics, which will then be sent to landfills instead of being recycled

[languid vine]

I’m making the rotors I need for my milestone and the smart plates

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome, glad to hear 😊

Just let me know if you have any questions

Oh fun fact, the notification sound on my phone is the scanner sound from satisfactory

[languid vine]

That’s cool lol

[hybrid nymph]

okay just working on my last assignment, then going to play the game

[languid vine]

I’ve added two more iron mining rigs to my factory

[hybrid nymph]

nice nice, what node purity?

[languid vine]

Uhhhhh lemme check

Impure x2 inside the main facility and about 200 m away. I have apparently three normal quality

Guess I need to get a third machine down here lol

[gloomy tusk]

college?

[nocturne nebula]

Hey guys how do I work signs at my junctions? I added a second train line coming into the same station now my trains won’t move. lol

[hybrid nymph]

yep German

[nocturne nebula]

They’re not clashing but they’re also both stalled.

[normal orbit]

depends on how the junction looks, but general rule is path in block out

[nocturne nebula]

Thanks

[silk rose]

can i get more factory frames using Lossless scaling app?

[hybrid nymph]

ugh I'm a terrible student...

[nocturne nebula]

Gonna make some railway blueprints today.

[languid vine]

My new triplet pumps #screenshots

Once I unlock ladders and stairs, I’m gonna start doing better multilevel stuff

Do dead animal bodies despawn?

[hybrid nymph]

they do yes

they DED

Something random, I spileld wine all over my power strip and it started smoking

luckilly I had a old power strip from like 10 years ago, so I'm using that one

[nocturne nebula]

Yikes!!!

⚡️

[hybrid nymph]

yeah it was scary

[nocturne nebula]

If in doubt, throw it out matey

I’ll have a power cut tomorrow. Gonna download a lot of videos for my tablet today. lol

[hybrid nymph]

I am throwing it out, my 15 year old power strip from my childhood computer is still running strong

yes I'm 30, I'm OLD, I KNOW!

[next ivy]

just play satisfactory

[tawny halo]

shit not being truly optimal until endgame fucks me up, like why bother building any factories at all if I only have mk 2 belts and mk 1 miners

[tall lantern]

it can still be 100% efficient at lower tiers

[normal orbit]

its just use more to make more

[tall lantern]

higher tier belts just let you use fewer belts, or to deal with recipes that input/output at higher rates (which usually come at those tiers)

[normal orbit]

also lets you use more miner output

[nocturne nebula]

My PC is too beefy. I get like 12 hour battery on my tablet.

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[fiery pewter]

You do know they come from the AWESOME shop right?

[normal orbit]

there are 127 iron nodes on the map of various quality :)

[fiery pewter]

Almost instantly actually

[hybrid nymph]

try the vanilla upgrades mod, it helps with that

[fiery pewter]

Mod that makes the game easier? Yugh

[next ivy]

where is the calculation for max shredder points per minute

utilizing all nodes

[fiery pewter]

There isn't iirc

Wait nvm

[next ivy]

weak community

[fiery pewter]

Where tf did that come from

[normal orbit]

i think i saw one where they made max amount of ballistic warp drives and how many point that was, but dont remember where i saw it

[next ivy]

from the playful competitiveness across automation games

[normal orbit]

i do remember not thinking it was very impressive vs just makign all other stuff and sink excess

[next ivy]

well as always you have tradeoffs

[fiery pewter]

Besides, that info isn't even useful. You'll get enough coupons to get everything in the awesome shop at least once long before you reach maximum sink points per minute

[normal orbit]

also you can get to a point where you sink so much the awesome sink just shows 0/min

[next ivy]

well sink points are the only thing to optimize for right ?

[fiery pewter]

Not in the slightest

[next ivy]

what other infinite thing can you make

[fiery pewter]

Everything

[next ivy]

i think youre missing the point

[fiery pewter]

Max power, all items are basically infinite, yaddayaddayadda

[last bluff]

I got softlocked into the lizard doggo petting loop a second time now. are they looking into fixing it?

[fiery pewter]

Ping a community manager and find out

[next ivy]

very much arent

[fiery pewter]

It's kinda their job to convey that information no?

[fiery pewter]

Each resource node can generate infinite amounts of ore

There's infinite thing number one

[next ivy]

oh youre right

but not per minute

[fiery pewter]

In that way of talking, even sink points don't go infinite per minute

[next ivy]

never said it would be

[fiery pewter]

Nothing goes infinite per minute

[next ivy]

i know

[fiery pewter]

But most is infinite over time

[fiery pewter]

Then what are you saying "not per minute"

[next ivy]

exactly what you just explained

"infinite" is an amount
"infinite per minute" is a rate

[fiery pewter]

Myes

[hybrid nymph]

I am now generating 19,500MW of pwoer

i have 16 fuel generators

[normal orbit]

and something else to make the remainign 9500 :p

[limpid iron]

the power plant must grow

[green fiber]

There's like satisfactory tools which can calculate for sink points iirc and it involves maxxing the Balliatic warp drives and like some others.

But honestly your PC will probably implode first

[normal orbit]

i do wonder how much cpu usage a world using every single node fully would be at :p

[green fiber]

Even just tapping all nodes and sinking them is enough to cause engine limit crash if im not mistaken

[normal orbit]

welcome to coal power

[gloomy tusk]

5 hours of playing?

Holy

I can’t play for more then 3hrs in one sitting

Is this your first save?

Oh congrats

Are you a ground goblin or a foundation freak?

Do you build with foundations or just build everything on the ground?

Do you play pc or console?

W

What do you think so far

I’m currently working on automating ai development systems and ballistic warp drives (end game items)

Oh boy

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message like so

[cunning glade]

the world now knows

[gloomy tusk]

No

[cunning glade]

looks cool enough that its valid

[gloomy tusk]

We upload the stuff to the thing to upgrade our other thing so we get more things to make more complex things to make the big thing bigger and better

That’s pretty much the game

[hybrid nymph]

is 800 plastic per minute too much?

[normal orbit]

you dont need to sit and wait, go build a steel factory to make the frameworks while its making plating :p

and automate some coal power

[hybrid nymph]

go do something for 45 minutes while it crafts

[next ivy]

our current computer production alone uses 480

[jagged nymph]

almost done with my turbofuel power plant

[next ivy]

and its not even that many computers

[jagged nymph]

yeah thats like 15ppm right?

[next ivy]

uh

whatever 8 machines downclocked to 75% are

1.875 * 8
I think ?

[jagged nymph]

yeah 15 exactly

[normal orbit]

currently using around 1600 out of the 4800 plastic i'm making

[next ivy]

we are both good at the game :P

[simple stream]

is there any way to make more ficit trigons i alr make 4000 a min

[normal orbit]

sloops

[simple stream]

4000 with sloops

[normal orbit]

then you can find more sam and make more

[last bluff]

Smart plates my beloved

[fiery pewter]

I'm making 4/min in tier 2

[last bluff]

Bro is using the impure iron node

[fiery pewter]

No a pure one

With an impure I couldn't even do it

[jagged nymph]

i just need to connect up the raw resources to my turbofuel plant

yep, just dismantile it and replace it

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message check this

[jagged nymph]

youre the guy that just started the game earlier right?

and you said youre boutta unlock coal power already right

nice, youre progressing pretty quick

im curious what your world looks like, could you send a screenshot of what your factory(s) look like in #screenshots

[last bluff]

inb4 letsgameitout

[jagged nymph]

oh i see you posted some earlier

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message holy rocket fuel

[jagged nymph]

glad your using foundation lmao

[jagged nymph]

thats quite a bit

k

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message isn't that smelter being overfed?

[jagged nymph]

oh yeah it is

[fiery pewter]

Also, power polr wall

[jagged nymph]

smelters only take in 30/minute

3 miners on normal nodes is enough for 6 smelters 😭

[fiery pewter]

Still, a singular smelter that isn't overclocked can only handle 30/min, and you're feeding like 90-180

4 machines, standard pole has 4 connections, could've used two poles

Mam, with the power slugs

[jagged nymph]

well if you feed it perfectly then you will never run out either

[fiery pewter]

You do you, just giving advice :3

[cunning glade]

no

for phase 5 all of my stuff uses like 3k plastic and i think 2k rubber

im making alot tho so

[smoky flame]

Why are poison pillars respawning for me? I thought they aren't suppose to respawn after it's being destroyed

[next ivy]

on a server ?

[smoky flame]

No, single player

Those large rocks that obscure ore deposits are also respawning for me for some reason

[ornate saffron]

Have you looked in #1038092680493801533 to see if anyone had a similar experience

[fiery pewter]

Don't they respawn if you aren't in a certain radius for a certain amount of time with no powered machines in the area?

Just like the hostiles

[ornate saffron]

Not that I have ever experienced

[fiery pewter]

I've always had the explode-able rocks reapear when I haven't been in the area for a while

[west python]

is there a way to mirror blueprints ?

[dense violet]

build them mirroredly

[ornate saffron]

I have never noticed any stink pillars or destroyed rocks respawning. I have over 1000 hours.

Not saying your wrong. But I've never noticed it.

[ornate saffron]

Only manually

[west python]

yeah thats the worst case ;)

but iam asking for an existing blueprint to be mirrored

[smoky flame]

I have a screenshot that can prove it, because it's still have the miner that's clipped into the rock which I placed after it's destroyed

[dense violet]

I have given you the most explicit answer - build a mirrored version

[west python]

oh okay
guess i have to build more blueprints then

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message @flat spade looks pretty good to me! Don't know why others are giving thumbs down, but you've done a whole lot more in 3,3 hours than I did on my first save

[ornate saffron]

Im saying i don't think that is supposed to happen.

Check #1038092680493801533
To see if someone had a fix .

If not check the official question website

[flat spade]

Thanks I am still doing some amelioration

[reef basin]

can't be done because buildings don't have mirrored versions

[fiery pewter]

Best way to have versatile blueprints is to have atleast 2 of the same, stackable left and right imo

[west python]

yeah thats what iam tryin to do
but yeah guess i have to build everything twice

its fine ... i just thought there may be a qol option that i missed that flips the blueprint without building it again the other way around

[ornate saffron]

The blueprinter is the QOL. Many ppl disagree with it existing.

[fiery pewter]

Some people dislike the size of them lmao

[ornate saffron]

I just try to optimize the tools we have

[fiery pewter]

ADA literally tells you to get more creative

[dense violet]

honestly people bitched so much more AFTER they introduced BP machines I would rather see them gone

[merry sand]

if they didnt save so much time id agree

[dense violet]

Like screw them all. Way too much bitching in server

no. Burn it down. Spite is powerful

[merry sand]

you can take it out of my cold irradiated hands if you try take it before i finish my nuclear plant at least

a lot of the time i'll manually do the machines anyway

just not right now :(

[ornate saffron]

As a whole, Im glad it exists. But I dont like the constant pressure from the community of wanting more. If 1.2 releases and they say no more updates other then bug fixes id be happy with my purchase.

Edit

I dont mean this as a attack on anyone. I just want people to see how great the devs are and we should be grateful for the continued support at no extra cost to us the player

[dense violet]

I skirt around the helldiver2 community and there's by participation much more bitching about things on here. Especially since in HD2 chat it's just kinda vague complaining rather than tons of people acting like they've been personally attacked and had murder attempted on them by having a feature not exist

[hybrid nymph]

I just finished a lot tonight

I improved my oil plant

[unkempt blade]

"Go find/make a mod for it" is a fair answer. One game isn't going to scratch every itch for every person

[merry sand]

between the fasc larpers saying 'face the wall' to any criticism and the people begging for buffs and nerfs its enough to make me avoid any online discussion about that game. i love it to bits but the online community is something else

[dense violet]

There's been some truly dumb things over the last couple years that have happened in HD2 but most of that has been managed now

and a lot of it probably wasn't even in control of the devs

[ornate saffron]

Nice! Im taking it slow in game and irl. I built the refinering area and the initial processes parts of my current facility but that was monday morning. I havent done any progress. In gam since

[unkempt blade]

Honestly I wish it did a better job of quarantining those types of people over there. I'm always amazed how many leak over here as "teehee I'm doing a doggo genocide 🤭 "

[naive flax]

woah pure ore patches are OP

[merry sand]

ah well, satisfactory is a great escape of all online things bc i always lose myself in hundred hour playthroughs in a week

over in #screenshots is my current project

[dense violet]

they aren't much different to normal nodes until tier 9

as your belts will limit what you can mine

[hybrid nymph]

I have more computers and super computers than I know what to do with now. I have 3 industrial storage units full of super computers and 6 industrial storage units full of computers.

[ornate saffron]

I build for need.... sometime the part is the goal though lol

[unkempt blade]

sink them for sweet sweet coupons!

[hybrid nymph]

Good idea 💡👍

[naive flax]

Gotta get that golden walnut somehow

[hybrid nymph]

I have the x100 awesome sink points mod installed. So I should be able to get that golden nut statue pretty easily

[ornate saffron]

Well at that point just spawn the nut in your inventory lol

Mmmmmm backpack nuts

I could go for some trail mix

[hybrid nymph]

I was thinking of adding the Ficsit farming mod

I could go for some muffins and baked potatoes

[ornate saffron]

I havent come across that yet.

Although most my knowledge is general chat here and the mod discord as I dont actively mod

[ornate saffron]

Can't decide if that a Irish statement or Portuguese lol

[merry sand]

is it just a way to automate biomass?

[ornate saffron]

No

[merry sand]

dang

[ornate saffron]

You can automate parts but you'll always have some input manually

[normal orbit]

farming mod automates biomass

[hybrid nymph]

I also have the void spheres mod and awesome artifacts mod installed. So I can buy sloops and spheres with awesome sink tickets, and I can craft them too with void spheres

[tall lantern]

save editing sounds easier

[hybrid nymph]

Gasoline is better lol I have the gas chainsaw mod

[merry sand]

is there a mod for a mk4 miner? or is it just the mk8 miner

[normal orbit]

just cheat em in with scim at that point

[merry sand]

id rather not go the 'nuclear' option

[ornate saffron]

1200\min is not enough geez lol

[merry sand]

no :(

i need either more sloops than possible or more sam than is possible

[hybrid nymph]

It's so dumb that the base game doesn't have a fuel selector for the chainsaw. It should accept solid biomass, fuel, turbo fuel, and liquid biofuel

[reef basin]

you can't realistically use all the resources on the map

[reef basin]

for what?

[merry sand]

ficsonium processing

[reef basin]

I mean justmake less of it then

[ornate saffron]

Its fine the way it is.

[merry sand]

using all the uranium needs about 11000 sam

[reef basin]

no, it doesn't

[merry sand]

im doing something wrong then

[ornate saffron]

Me 20 minutes ago

#satisfactory message

[normal orbit]

it does if you pick recipes for maximum power

[reef basin]

using resource efficient recipes 🙂

but nobody forces you to do that

[normal orbit]

you can just sloop one sam processing step and you should have enough

[merry sand]

hence the lack of sloops

[reef basin]

or you could use less plut efficient recipes and need less sam

[normal orbit]

think you need 56 sloops if you do the ficsite step, and 24? if you do reanimated sam

[versed mesa]

Hi all

Tomorrow is the day we find out when 1.2 comes to experimental

[ornate saffron]

Thats less then the 106 in the game

[normal orbit]

if you do the plutonium pellet step instead of instant cells, you lose like 300.000MW but you wont need to sloop sam

[glacial drum]

Goodness the smart folk are in chat

[ornate saffron]

Wow Thursday already

[glacial drum]

All of em at once.

[versed mesa]

Yeah lol

[glacial drum]

Man I hope 1.2 takes a bit to come out honestly. With RE9 releasing tomorrow I’m not sure I’ll have time to satisfactory

Gotta get the rest of my concrete done tonight

[merry sand]

in #math-and-meta is my modeler screenshot

if you wanna see my 'maths'

[ornate saffron]

Good call

[versed mesa]

Either late next month or April it will drop

[merry sand]

numbers arent final nor great

[ornate saffron]

Ive been struggling to play re since it switched to fps

[glacial drum]

Re8 does have a third person however it is locked behind a paywall. It’s unfortunate.

[dense violet]

could just zero out the ficsonium

[unkempt blade]

I just hope 1.2 gets rid of rocket fuel. It's already going to make liquids even more perfect than they already are but I want it to undo 1.0's biggest mistake

[dense violet]

yeah and have fuel gens put out 1/2 the power

[smoky flame]

Is there an easy way to basically lift your factory up by 10 meters or something or do I have rebuild everything lol, even if it involves mods

[dense violet]

for 2x as much fuel

[merry sand]

first time doing nuclear so i wanna go all the way

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

try the modding discord

[ornate saffron]

Ya, i have it it came in some bundle. But it feels odd to me. I also feel like I missed a lot for the previous game which made me sick

[dense violet]

or just keep building through the tutorial and manage how it is now

[smoky flame]

I'm tier 5 now

[dense violet]

middle of the tutorial

[ornate saffron]

I think it just needs more balance. The coal byproduct is really strong.

Here is 200gw of power and enough coal byproduct to make over 1000 steel ingots

[versed mesa]

Its going to take weeks to redo mods to work with 1.2 when it drops

[unkempt blade]

the effort/complexity just doesn't feel like it scales right compared to power options you'd get before it OR with nuclear

[smoky flame]

40 hours of work that I have to rebuild

[tall lantern]

"have to"

[dense violet]

why? what mechanical fault does it being 10m lower kill?

[smoky flame]

rock

[ornate saffron]

I have yet to do nuclear but im told its space efficient and rather easy

[tall lantern]

just build around it

[dense violet]

go around
none of the factories you make now will matter once you've unlocked al lthe phases anyway

[unkempt blade]

rocket fuel is significantly simpler than nuclear as far as number of steps and logistics needed for materials

[tall lantern]

if you really want to, save editing via SCIM is a thing. But accepting it for what it is'd be my recommendation, good practice for adapting when things don't work out as intended

[merry sand]

[dense violet]

its basically the same work on the fuel production side but in smaller steps

[glacial drum]

Nuclear is like all things are in this game. Difficult at first, easier once understood. I think the biggest difficulty in it is honestly input routing

(once you understand all the ratios atleast)

[dense violet]

uranium rods with base recipes isn't much more work than HMF honestly. Just need more of a variety of resources

[unkempt blade]

Nuclear is probably the most complex production chain you can get into in this game. That's not to say it's insanely difficult but in comparison to rocket fuel it takes a lot more stuff

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message super space efficient :p

[glacial drum]

With how easy rocket fuel is to make it’s very.. powerful

[fluid sapphire]

didnt look that complicated to me

[dense violet]

nah, plutonium rods makes you need more resource types on top of that but it's not hard

[ornate saffron]

Im running on minimal fuel until I get to nuclear this run.

I keep telling myself I won't wuss out this time lol

[fluid sapphire]

sure its a lot of stuff, but most of that stuff itself is pretty simple

[normal orbit]

its not complicated until ficsonium

[merry sand]

i have decimated te swamp biome for space to build mine

i wanna see all the reactors light up so the only verticality is the fuel rod production

[ornate saffron]

I thought you where using all the uranium. Is that the best location for it? Or do you like the cats and color filter?

[normal orbit]

best location in the one with the most water

[merry sand]

i dont like the swamp so im irradiating it

droning in all the uranium to here

[eager palm]

They call that the Farquad Method.

[naive flax]

as im expected to make more complex items should i be importing raw materials from other places and take from that (almost like a main bus design) or should i be finding ore mines and creating the production chain there

[dense violet]

it's generally easier to make multiple factories
easier on your computer too

[normal orbit]

my plant used 1200/min uranium and ended up 180 nuclear reactors, 2100/min would be 300-ish

[dense violet]

buses are fairly shit in this game

[glacial drum]

How have you all transported your uranium? I’ve tried drones but trains may just be better..

[dense violet]

basically 10x as much work for less efficient set ups

[normal orbit]

600 water extractors :p

[dense violet]

drones is much simpler for a lot of it - a lot of hte nodes are awkward in location

[naive flax]

gotcha

[dense violet]

unless you happen to already ahve train lines going by them I suppose

[leaden turret]

don't blame the tool, blame the user

[normal orbit]

i used drones, worked well enough

[dense violet]

I did add 'in this game' 😛

[normal orbit]

didnt want radioactive trains

[merry sand]

there's the waterfall uranium node so that's the only one that's belted, i considered trains but i wanted to avoid congestion on my already congested rails, and doing a sky rail or an underground one seemed like much too much effort

[eager palm]

Make the most complicated parts you can make at the source, then move those intermediate parts around, is the generally accepted approach. I personally enjoy moving resources to one spot, but it’s not for everyone.

[reef basin]

I mean if you don't build gens in front of extractors 🤷

[ornate saffron]

I prefer transportation of dense items.

My example

Why transport all the parts to make smart plates when you can just transport the smart plates.

Why transport nitrogen when you can make fused frames and transport that

[glacial drum]

I’ve got an old 200 battery/min factory I can probably double the output of atp.

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency may be a good read for you

[naive flax]

thank you

i am just beginning phase 2 of operation assembly...

[normal orbit]

nuclear gens kinda benefit from having a good pipe volume, cause they eat so much water, the pipe acting like a small buffer helps a lot if you run em at 240-250%

[naive flax]

at my current production it takes... 4 hours.. to produce only the smart plates i need

[ornate saffron]

Most ppl rush the power options in phase 2 as they want to stop manually feed power

[dense violet]

I should add that there isn't a blanket 'X is best to do Y' in this game. For example you can make giant mega factories but it depends how things work for you and what your goals are

like if you want it to be efficient AND growing as you grow tiers? huge huuuuuge amounts of work to get that going
if you don't care about efficiency or messiness you can just belt a ton of things together and a large factory will just make stuff

[leaden turret]

"having fun is the best to do gameplay"

[naive flax]

If this game is anything like factorio im sure ill have a couple paradigm shifts in how i understand the game

[leaden turret]

imagine factorio but:

• it looks nice
• can build up
• without base defense

[merry sand]

absolutely like that, most peoples early game experience is realising it can be done a better way and tearing things down and starting again

[velvet thorn]

Several times my friends tore down my factories because he couldn't tell what was going on

[naive flax]

i like that part the most

[naive flax]

and the OST is awesome

[ornate saffron]

And the conveyor Bus method is not good in this game

[ornate saffron]

You can buy a boombox and find cassettes of other coffee stain studio ost's

I kinda wana invade other ppls worlds and leave the worst of goat sim playing in random places

[merry sand]

wdym the worst, all of the songs are peak

goat blasphemy

[ornate saffron]

The cassette is called "worst of goat simulator "

[merry sand]

the devs are lying there's no bad songs in there

[tall lantern]

worst is relative

[ornate saffron]

Its on brand

[rustic charm]

hello. is there a setting to keep it daytime ?

[naive flax]

must.. find.. water..

[ornate saffron]

No, many of use use the mod skyui

[ornate saffron]

Grass lands start?

[rustic charm]

ok, thank you

[naive flax]

ye

[unkempt blade]

you can also make yourself a night light using signs set to max brightness

[ornate saffron]

Mods are pretty easy in this game. In #welcome there is a link to the mod discord if you wana deep dive

[ornate saffron]

Ping for coal folllow the ping north westish

The devs left you a nice spot

[naive flax]

i think i found it lol

[naive flax]

nearest coal is 800+ m away tho D:

[ornate saffron]

Depends on your computer and settings. On my laptop i play high locked at 30 fps and dont get lag until later game or when I blow up rocks

[ornate saffron]

The map is huge. Get used to spreading out like a plague

[rustic charm]

its only my second day playing atm, its a mess but functional. i'll for sure check some mods on my next save. (i do have godmode on because i died in sulphur and couldnt get my stuff back. )

[ornate saffron]

You can set your inventory to keep on death too

That option does not effect achievements where God mode does

[leaden matrix]

I believe the point is to inconvenience you ^^

[ornate saffron]

Welcome. Have fun, make mistakes get messy. We are here if you hit the wall and the wiki can't help

[ornate saffron]

You can power slide to gain momentum. Jump hold ctrl once you start sliding jump repeat.

[rustic charm]

i just got coal up and running. first belt was so long lmao. about to run another

[naive flax]

yooo

[merry sand]

isnt crouch defaulted to c?

crouch jumping superior movement

[naive flax]

its c for me idk if its default

[whole robin]

Yeah the default is c

[naive flax]

me get mk 2 miner b4 me make coal

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message building this is a pain

[twin parcel]

tractors exists , just build a road

[naive flax]

thanks acheron

[mortal ginkgo]

Coal is the first lure to get you out and explore. Majority of Coal has also water nearby. All you need to do is bring a power pole setup back to your base.

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

mk1 pipes at that scale, entirely self-inflicted

[naive flax]

aa thanks

[leaden matrix]

Ewwww more piping ToT

Its like a curve chart, its easy, then its hard, then MK2 pipes exist so its easy again

And thats ignoring weird pipe jank ToT

[glacial drum]

Remember there may be more water nearby! It’s better to transport solids than liquids

[ornate saffron]

Likely I'm old. I used to play games with out a mouse lol

[glacial drum]

I was going to use one pure limestone for my encased factory yet I think I’ll swap to using a normal one too.

With the current plan I’m only using 960 iron ingots and coal.. Considering it’s a pure iron node and there’s a limestone node 30 meters away I don’t think it would hurt to change up the plans.

Well I’ll do the math later. For now it’s time to head into work.

[jagged nymph]

nicee

[ionic cipher]

someone know how can i cheat on the game such as flying etc...?

[jagged nymph]

advanced game settings

[jagged nymph]

its an option when you create a save

[jagged nymph]

why did you forward this from the helldivers server

[ionic cipher]

so now that my save is done its to late ?

[wanton cloud]

i accidentaly sent it there and was too lazy to retype it

[jagged nymph]

you could use iron pipe alt and encased industrial pipe

youll use a ton more iron but you wont need coal

[normal orbit]

no you can enable them whenever

[wanton cloud]

hunghhhh fine i'll use it

[jagged nymph]

im not sure if you can enable them after its created

[ionic cipher]

too bad ty tho

[fluid sapphire]

i use this kind of setup

#screenshots message

[normal orbit]

when you load your game, click on load settings, and checkmark advanced game settings

[wanton cloud]

thank you good sir

[fluid sapphire]

note the plastic is just because my iron budget was tight

[unkempt blade]

No screws? It's like you want other people to have the worst production chain for HMF!

[fluid sapphire]

i am not screwing around

[unkempt blade]

exactly, that's the problem!

[normal orbit]

screwing is for promiscous people, not pure innocent people :p

[unkempt blade]

Exactly! Clearly you understand why his HMFs aren't desirable

[spice osprey]

This might be a silly question, but is there a specific purpose for building indoor factories? Like, does it help with organization, or is it just for aesthetics?

[normal orbit]

aesthetics

[tall lantern]

and also just a side effect of building vertically

[unkempt blade]

it's way more surface area for me to add bright colors to #screenshots message

[coral glacier]

I have seen some posts on reddit and youtube that you can talk to Ada in the chat bar, but i am not able to.
Was this feature recently removed?

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message vertecality is fun :3

she only responds to certain inputs

try "thanks jace helps a lot"

[unkempt blade]

I love the lights but it needs some color too 😄

[coral glacier]

Nope

[normal orbit]

are you typing into the chat bar or the console?

[coral glacier]

Chat bar

[unkempt blade]

huh, I didn't know you could get her to respond from chat

[ornate saffron]

The game only renders what the player can see.

So if you are starting to lag a little put some walls up and starting building with that in mind

[normal orbit]

helps some if your gpu bound, but you're way more likely to be cpu bound and then building walls wont help cause calculations happen regardless

[weak bloom]

I'm kinda curious how much CPU this game can push, is it properly multi thread optimized? I know a lot of games aren't but I'd imagine this probably is

[unkempt blade]

it's worth the lag to have everything be beautiful

[fluid sapphire]

loads of people out here building vertically stacked floating platforms

[weak bloom]

I'd be shocked if it can push the limits of a 9800x3d but I've underestimated the lack of optimization of modern game devs before mhwilds

[fluid sapphire]

if you build enough, it can bring any cpu down to its knees

[ornate saffron]

There is some lunch commands to disable the games defualt setting of reserving cpu processing power.

I have a 16 core processor on my desktop so I dont care if it fully utilizes 4 of them

[weak bloom]

Though honestly I was FLOORED to find out satisfactory was unreal 5

[normal orbit]

hm, shes not responding to "hello ada" but "Thanks Jace, Helps a lot" does play the sound clip

[weak bloom]

99% of modern unreal devs really have no excuse lmfao

[ornate saffron]

They did a great job optimizing

[coral glacier]

Odd, could it be that there is a setting that i have to enable?

[elfin smelt]

shame other devs doesn't follow the same example

[unkempt blade]

I'm only a 7800x3d and you can see the tick rate decrease as your save gets big/towards endgame

[weak bloom]

Endfield being Unity and Satisfactory being Unreal 5 and them both looking and performing as well as they do should be a huge wakeup call for the industry to show what actually optimizing can do LMAO

[autumn path]

which alt recipe, encased beams from pipe(1/3rd less steel), or the circuit one that cuts plastic cost in half?

[normal orbit]

so far max cpu usage i've seen on a 9800x3d is about 85% when playing

[autumn path]

been getting crap for the first like 12 hard drives then get 2 great omes just to make sure i can't get both yet

[weak bloom]

Damn that's actually crazy lmao

[unkempt blade]

It'll be interesting if hardware prices going through the roof actually push studios to optimize more frequently

[autumn path]

if you want to push your cpu go play city skylines 2

[weak bloom]

Idk why but cities skylines never recaptured the magic of old sim city for me

[normal orbit]

i used to have a 9900k which would constantly hit 100% cpu usage and whenever it did, the 1200 belts would hiccup and my miner efficiency dropped to 98% once i upgraded pc, stopped happening

[autumn path]

hardware prices aren't really going up, just ram, should be fixxed in like 12-24 months

[fluid sapphire]

its not the devs fault, its the publishers that are on the devs asses to hurry up and not bother

[sinful roost]

For standard first run is it realizing all your effort lead to only making one heavy modular frame a minute forcing you to make a giant factory dedicated to it?

[ornate saffron]

Fron Unreal 5 is a great system. Its default state is setup for babies first development engine. But if you strip that away and build your own asset library and cod everything from the ground up and optimize it for your specific use it is a lot better.

Im not a developer but this is what a dev told me like I was a 4 y/o lol

That dev w had a complete mental breakdown and burned his entire social network and family ties.

So do what time will with that information lol

[elfin smelt]

I think the good optimization is not a priority for publishers because they reather use the same money to make other more attractive stuff to sell more

[autumn path]

mods are your friend if you wnat to build big, just make sure not to "cheat" whatever that line is in your mind

[unkempt blade]

The RAM and SSDs in my current build are like 4x what they were when I built a couple years ago. If they're selling to either businesses or consumers at those prices now I don't see why you think it'll fix itself.

[autumn path]

na ssd is about same as when i builts 2-3 years ago, ram is like half a Pc cost thou, but that is AI's fault

[weak bloom]

I mean I think it's on both. There's a point where you gotta not accept things as simple as leaving most of Unreal settings on default that cause huge performance issues with very simple config fixes. Idr what game recently had this issue but yeah...both are to blame imo

I know it's hard, I'm a software engineer too, but there's a level of "didn't bother" because they assume the engine will take care of it that's kinda the hallmark of a lot of Unreal games especially, and why people meme on Unreal being so bad performance-wise

Unreal can do a lot, most devs just don't bother actually tweaking it to get that level of performance out of it

[normal orbit]

ssds are up around 100% just looking at price now vs when i got mine back in dec 2024

[sinful roost]

Crazy timeline

[unkempt blade]

I can look at my old invoices. It's not just me guessing

[weak bloom]

This is essentially what Hypergryph did with Unity, their version is almost a custom engine at this point and the work they put into it REALLY shows

[fluid sapphire]

i heard that they changed a lot of how UE5 works compared to UE4 and the documentation is lacking

[weak bloom]

That also wouldn't surprise me lmao. Like there's definitely some truth to ue5 just being worse optimized than ue4 on top of devs not tweaking it for their purposes like they should

[autumn path]

2TB 980 pro is 330 right now i paid 288 in like jan 2024

[fluid sapphire]

was this meme really a thing before UE5? i dont remember it being so

[weak bloom]

It wasn't

[normal orbit]

update 8 changed a lot when they moved to ue5, and even on experimental now the new ue5 version has affected things

[weak bloom]

UE5 is the meme really

[fluid sapphire]

if anything i remember most of the ue3 and 4 games looking and running pretty damn great

ones i played anyway

[normal orbit]

paid 1.990sek for a 2tb 990 pro in dec of 2024, today its 3490sek. thats a 67% price hike.

[autumn path]

I also have my receipts from when i built, and the spreadsheet, going from 288 to 330 in 2 years is "normal" inflation

yea you don't have the same supply chains as USA/Can

pcpartpicker has my SSD listed for 330 and i paied 288 in Jan 2024, thats about 10 percent increase a year

[normal orbit]

one splitter, using 2 outputs is 50/50 split

[tranquil saffron]

smart splitter?

[autumn path]

from research, i tihnk caterium? you can pick which item in each lane

[normal orbit]

using 3 outputs is 33.33/33.33/33.33

[fluid sapphire]

i am currently selling a kit of memory i have left over from an upgrade last year, its literally selling for 6x what it would have last year

its going to fund an ssd for me

[autumn path]

yea RAM is cray right now due to AI farms

its about half the cost of a new build, looked at building one for the GF, going to use my old one for her lol

a cheap gaming pc is like 1000-1200 can with like 500 being the ram

[normal orbit]

what in the gosh darn f... my ram kit was 1749 sek, its over 10x at 19.999sek

[fluid sapphire]

you can get an OK used 32GB kit for around 350€ here

[normal orbit]

frick i should sell half my ram :p

[autumn path]

yea ram prices are jacked and will be for 12-24 months

[fluid sapphire]

gotta get my ssd before its too late

[autumn path]

ssd should be fine, not part of the retooling and sell offs for AI

[fluid sapphire]

sure, prices have gone up a lot for no reason whatsoever

[autumn path]

who siad no reason?

[elfin smelt]

no reason?

[ebon anvil]

Can you help me please? My building name is blurry

[autumn path]

i said the reason

[normal orbit]

well the reason is ai companies buying stuff not yet made, for datacenters not yet built, to provide a service which noone wants

[elfin smelt]

PLEASE pop

🙏

[autumn path]

They data center buildings are built, they install the ram as soon s they get it basically, the ram is their bottleneck for building.

Well in some places the bottle next is transmission lines

[ornate saffron]

My phone just kept changing pachinko to machines even though I spelt it right. Becuase it no longer just checks a data base to see if it is right. It now asks a LLM

This is what drives me crazy. We have a optimal way of doing something. Why change it to something that costs more and is not as good

[unkempt blade]

I turned off the autocorrect on my phone. I'd rather look like I can't spell/type occasionally than deal with it making incorrect suggestions all the time

[normal orbit]

yea autocorrect is atrociously bad now, i just turned it off

[ornate saffron]

My brain is to much. I think im typing a full sentence but miss keywords. I think i typed it but didn't. On the plus side this "better" autocorrect is forcing me to proof read more.

[jagged nymph]

sorter? wdym

[normal orbit]

last straw was when i was typing an email and suggested week 44, and the f'in phone auto corrected 44 to 43

[jagged nymph]

what the hell 😭

[tranquil saffron]

something that sorts items, don't think so

[ornate saffron]

Kinda. You got to build it with splitters you unlock in the MaM

[tranquil saffron]

are u talking about smart splitters?

[normal orbit]

smart splitters and programmable splitters can sort items if you wanna use a sushi belt

[ornate saffron]

And programmable

[jagged nymph]

generally you should not have multiple different resources on the same belt unless you have to

[unkempt blade]

it's not so bad as long as you know you have somewhere for them to go (like a sink at the end of the belt)

[whole robin]

What's the functional difference between smart splitters and programmable splitters

[jagged nymph]

well yeah if youre just sinking them thats fine

[ornate saffron]

There is more options in the drop down menus then any and overflow. You can select specific items and with the programmable you and select multiple for one output.

When I built a mall I built a sorter array with these options

@whole robin

[jagged nymph]

programmable splitters let you send multiple different items out of the same side, which is very rarely ever useful

[unkempt blade]

Yeah a mall sorter is a good example of something that just needs a sink at the end so a full storage won't clog the rest of the sorter

[normal orbit]

functionally very little, programmable can set multiple items on one output, but you can sort of do that with smart splitter too using overflow and any undefined options

[ornate saffron]

Looking back to when I built my first mall and everyone told me not to as with dimensional depots its not needed. Im glad i did.

I have more experience now and I would not do it again. But I learned so much getting it to work smoothly

[tranquil saffron]

is there any way i can mod out nuclear waste or something.. i use plutonium rods and the storage holds a lot but i don't really enjoy irradiating like square miles of the map. the radiation those storage units put off is quite absurd

[unkempt blade]

Yeah it's more of just a vanity project than it used to be but it's still a really fun build

[normal orbit]

turn the plutonium waste into ficsonium fuel

[ornate saffron]

Item management, wide spread logistics, how to deal with elevation using trains are all things I learned because i decided to make a mall. Im sure there is other things I am not thinking of.

[tranquil saffron]

well dang thats cool, as a creative player i guess i hadn't figured that one out yet. that's definitely a project 😂

[jagged nymph]

well thats the tradeoff for nuclear power. Therse waste. You can either store the waste or process it into ficsonium which has no waste. You may as well just mod coal generators to not need water

[tranquil saffron]

lol i built my 20 nuclear reactors for the animation

[ornate saffron]

Turn it to plutonium rods and sink them is the common in game solution.

Fir mods I suggest checking the mod discord. Its in #welcome

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think trains into my mall have been the only time I've actually needed to balance belts instead of just managing them with the amount of consumption for each line

[tranquil saffron]

i have an entire massive box of 2 story spawned water resource with pipes coming out just for my reactors, that is cool once i figured that out

[ornate saffron]

I am going be load balancing nuclear.

[ornate saffron]

Im likely going to be doing some sushi belts in nuclear too

[unkempt blade]

I overengineered the last one I did and gave it 4 tracks of sorters and we wanted to make sure they used them all somewhat equally #screenshots message

it was fun having the majority of the sinking allhappen in one place

[ornate saffron]

I love when I see a screen shot i can be like

Yup this is @unkempt blade

[unkempt blade]

I have a style preference for sure

[tranquil saffron]

dang that is sweet i love color coding stuff in my factories too, that is the way for organization

the modded metallic colors made a world of difference, one of my favorite mods in the whole game

[haughty elk]

Hello! I ran into an issue with my trains. Sometimes a red outline appears around a single locomotive, and other times it's the entire train. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance!

[coral glacier]

I like nuclear power plants.

[coral glacier]

No colour coding, memorize everything.

[ornate saffron]

Search #1038092680493801533 I know ive talked about it there

[coral glacier]

Colour everything black.
Nuclear Power Plant.
Pipes.
Conveyors.
Except concrete.

[ornate saffron]

Welcome btw ^-^

[coral glacier]

Welcome.

[haughty elk]

Got it

[leaden matrix]

Its admirable how colorful all your builds are ^^

[coral glacier]

Have you seen my build yet?

It's coming along good

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I think my multiplayer saves are fun because my friends mostly builds like their factories are a gamer desktop case (dark color on walls, etc + lights) and mine are all spewing rainbows everywhere. It's a fun contrast

[ornate saffron]

I was going to criticize the float but your under the map so thats okay lol

[leaden matrix]

I just know the piping for that will be beautiful and fun😭

[coral glacier]

Yes, beautiful 90° turns.

I already know what approach i will be using, so that's no problem.
Waste & Fuel transportation layouts are also going to be a breeze.

I just need to build it all.
That's the part that takes the longest.

[haughty elk]

Sorry, I’m having the same issue. However, even after restarting the game, the red outline reappears as soon as the train completes one round trip. Any advice? https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1394534000671985684

[coral glacier]

I am disappointed that there is not more of me to complete it in a quicker timespan.

[coral glacier]

Correct.
You won't see it if you are normal and play normal.

[ornate saffron]

I do not. Sorry. You can create your own question in that section. The ppl hear are really help ful

[leaden matrix]

I know exactly how you feel ToT
When I get on later today I have to place 57 crafters😭

[coral glacier]

Delicious productivity.

[ornate saffron]

Lol I put frame pillars deep into the void so it looks like a foggy abyss

[coral glacier]

I have the fog on my world Disabled.
I like to see what i have made.

Off*

[haughty elk]

Noted, thanks!

[normal orbit]

go into dismantle mode, and hover over the train as it goes past you, should clear it off

[coral glacier]

This facility is aimed for efficiency only, anything else isn't my top priority.
I might add some coherence with the laws of physics, but for now it's not useful.

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[jagged nymph]

how long did that take....

[coral glacier]

Impressive.

[ornate saffron]

Fair. I was just poking made respect regardless

[ornate saffron]

Long.

Four freight cars of steel beams

[jagged nymph]

wow

[jagged nymph]

but like approximately how many hours of gameplay

[coral glacier]

Imagine if Satisfactory was written in assembly language.

:)

[ornate saffron]

When someone asks how much x do I need and we say it depends. This is why.

I normal person can build 5/min of steel beams for personal use. But if you want that 1900's industrial feel...

[jagged nymph]

that would be unnecessary and essentially inmpossible

[fluid sapphire]

probably take hundreds of years to write

[coral glacier]

Not if you had eternity.

[ornate saffron]

Hard to say.

My work is seasonal. I built this over a week during my down time there.

[jagged nymph]

i see

[ornate saffron]

8 hour work days. So a absolute gues would be 20 hours.

[coral glacier]

I mean look at my current project.
If i had enough time, i can build whatever i want.

[elfin smelt]

assembly just removes overhead

you can still write bad performing assembly code

[ornate saffron]

With easy curve mods it would be easy af

[coral glacier]

I surely wouldn't deliberately write bad performing assembly code.

[elfin smelt]

I mean, bad perfoming code is not written to be deliberatelly bad

normally

normally just lack of time or experience

[coral glacier]

Typically you should be well aquainted with the architecture of the cpu and the rest of the computer components that you are working with.
If you aren't then poorly written code is a given.

[elfin smelt]

I'm just saying that something being assembly doesn't magically makes it better

[coral glacier]

That is where studying becomes useful.

[fluid sapphire]

i just learn by writing bad code 👍

[elfin smelt]

for instance, updates would take waaay longer to come by the very nature of low level coding

[coral glacier]

That is true.
Assembly is useful for modifying specific areas that need more refinement for whatever reason, but other than that it's just a waste of time unless you're building a computer from scratch, an OS, or a roller coaster tycoon 2 on an older model.

[coral glacier]

"And i would code 500,000 lines and i would code 500,000 more."

[elfin smelt]

iirc assembly also was very useful in early games

[coral glacier]

Well yeah, they were a lot simpler back then.

[elfin smelt]

they would write the most runned loops in assembly while less common in high level languages

[pale tree]

what happened to the rain?

[coral glacier]

It ran away.

[pale tree]

havent seen it since like over a year ago

[elfin smelt]

I'm afraid you live in a desert

[tall lantern]

it was removed, but it'll be back in 1.2

[pale tree]

ah

[tall lantern]

IIRC it didn't play well with the engine upgrade

[coral glacier]

I doubt it, it's too costly to render so it would be better to expect it in 1.8

[tall lantern]

they've already said it's coming in 1.2 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale tree]

they could just remove the particles
would still have the vibe

[normal orbit]

Broke in update 8. Coming back in 1.2

[coral glacier]

Oh, talking about satisfactory?

[tall lantern]

lemme check what channel we're in

[pale tree]

lol

[tall lantern]

yes, indeed I am

[coral glacier]

My bad. 😂

I suggest the swamp be converted into a snowscape.

[mortal ginkgo]

white Snow Stingers, yes pls.

[coral glacier]

Frosted Stingers

[leaden turret]

iirc, it made the game crash when you dismantled stuff that was wet

<@&370483737957236737> re: office tour video, strap a go-pro to Lilith & call it a day? 😛

[coral glacier]

LOL.

[unkempt blade]

I don't watch the streams but I would watch this

[leaden matrix]

Some sort of snowy mountains would be cool :>

Well get more ^-^

[hollow terrace]

Does anyone know where the photos taken in photo mode go when playing on console?

[coral glacier]

Try 1600 of them.

:)

[tall lantern]

if you don't have enough water you probably need extractors, not pumps 😉

[glacial drum]

Check your media gallery. If not there then try taking the photos manually with the capture button/menu. Not the ingame button

[green fiber]

the pumps are the ones that pump fluid through pipes

hmmm straw

big sippy straw

[leaden matrix]

Well there is also an extractor which, extract water(and other liquids/gasses) out of like, these geyser style things

[green fiber]

the well sippy straws

[unkempt blade]

you'll get better help/answers if you call them what the game does

[hollow terrace]

Sounds good, just checked now and it didn’t seem to save on my console so I’ll have to do when you said and just take a screen shot instead. Thank you for the help!

[mortal ginkgo]

The moment he said "I need more" it was rather obvious to me to be fair.

[tall lantern]

might've been building very high up

[reef basin]

but maybe using the game terminology when talking about the game is better decision than making own terminology 😛

well it's not game's terminology, so idk who told you to call them pumps, but they are extractors 😉

[charred magnet]

hey guys, I wanted to ask yall a question if possible.
how do you guys plan in a way that keep things tidy enough to progress through out the game with ease?
like Ive been playing the game since like the 0.6 version and have started a lot of saves, but rarely any of them take off and I think in my like 100 hours or so the furthest Ive been has been up to oil processing and I always feel so overwhelmed and I feel like Im doing everything in such a messy way.
(I should also add that Im primarily a factorio player so maybe thats why my wires get so much crossed up)

[reef basin]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency may be a good read for you

we're not talking about IRL though, are we?

[leaden matrix]

If things arent tidy enough, I tear them down and build them up better ^-^

That alongside using a LOT of platforms to keep things tidy :>

Things are going to be messy, but you can always clean them up later

[charred magnet]

ooo thank you man

[past hedge]

you dont have a lot of platforms until you are working in the 6 digit totals

[reef basin]

this wasn't talking about the game?

[past hedge]

Its never enough

[leaden matrix]

-# mmmmmmmmm concrete platforms

[mortal ginkgo]

I personally get where you are coming from but this isn't a debate you need to win.

There is an actual "pump" in this game so to not confuse players, devs needed to call them big bois "Water Extractors".

Using game terms just can be less confusing for many. 😛

[reef basin]

(see also "battery" vs "power storage")

[charred magnet]

tbh one thing that I know Im guilty off is not tearing things down as often lol
but my main point is also that how do you plan on a macro level if it makes sense? something that I really got used to in factorio was having this perfect overview of the world and resources and the entire production line so that you could make more clear decisions.
in satisfactory I find myself always worrying about if Im using the nodes right and what if I need them later and things of that nature if it makes sense.
like should I approach the game phase by phase? just make starter bases and factories? I feel kinda lost lol sorry

[tall lantern]

there are so many nodes on the map that for almost all resources, you're at no real risk of running out unless you actively try

[leaden matrix]

Taking it phase by phase is a great idea ^-^
Thats how most people play when they start and its a good idea because it let's you not overcomplicate things yet

However if you really need things to be neat and planned for the future theres a couple good planners online that let you get a good idea of what you want/where you want it before you do it in game!

[leaden matrix]

-# unrelated but fuck copper btw

[tall lantern]

alos, not tearing things down is a good thing - rebuilding is usually recommended against. For similar reason - a) there's enough resources around, but also b) why tear down a working factory

[elfin smelt]

water extractor and pumps are two very different things in the game, hence the importance of distinguishing them, otherwise we'll give the wrong answers for your wrong questions

[unkempt blade]

imo people should play through the game at least once without worrying too much about the meta or efficiency or whatever and then get sweaty with the second playthrough. No one actually knows what they're doing the first time they play

[charred magnet]

thanks man ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[tall lantern]

I'm pumping water from the pumps through some pumps but the pumps aren't working, do I need more pumps

[weak bloom]

What I have been doing is not trying to rebuild factories, honestly. When I hit a new phase I'll go find a new cluster of resource nodes and build from scratch there. That factory will inevitably be better than the previous because I've learned from experience. Then maybe I'll go back and tear down the entire previous factory and rebuild if I want to use those resource nodes for something else.

Like I don't update my first factory after getting mk2 belts or miners, I just found new nodes and built a new one

[leaden matrix]

Yeah, but if things feel too messy for someone theres nothing wrong with giving them tips to keep everything neat if thats how they prefer it ^-^

[charred magnet]

ooo that is also a very good and interesting approach thanks

[tall lantern]

rebuilding is a negative time gain

[unkempt blade]

Rebuilds and organization tend to get easier the more research and awesomeshop stuff you've unlocked too so doing it too early can make it feel like you'll need to do it again in another tier or two

[tall lantern]

"because I want to" is always valid, but if a factory is working, there's no need to rebuild it. just take any lessons for your next factory

[spiral summit]

am i tweaking or did i hear mlg hit points

[charred magnet]

hmmm so I guess I should stick with my play throughs longer it seems

[weak bloom]

I think the most important thing I've settled on is that it's simply not worth trying to build factories with future improvements in mind (belts, miners, etc).
It's too much effort and thought to, say, build a factory planning for a mk3 miner while I only have mk2s and have it still produce what I want.
I just build for the resources and throughput I currently have. When I get the next tier, don't update or rework, just tear down and rebuild

There's obviously some degree of planning ahead you can do but imo it's not super worth the effort of trying to make a factory future proof or extensible like that

[tall lantern]

yeah, that's the other part of "no need to rebuild", a working factory should normally just be left alone

factory works, leave it be

[unkempt blade]

Agreed, it's a lot less planning effort if you just throw a splitter on the mk3 and use the extra ore for something else when it becomes available

[tall lantern]

if you need more, build another, potentially making use of the new stuff you've gained access to and your new skillz

[charred magnet]

tbh one thing that I also struggled with is whether building based on your input is better (like saying I have 120 iron ore lets see what I can do with it) or based on a desired output (like I want 20 reinforced iron plate lets see how I can make that)?

[weak bloom]

Depends on what you're building and how complex the recipe is

[charred magnet]

hmm fair enough

[weak bloom]

For example in the lake west of the plains I decided to use the copper, iron, coal to produce most of my early game depot items so I started with how many input ores were available and then roughly evenly subdivided them into pipe, beam, wire, motor, etc. And shoved them all into the dimensional depot

But now I'm starting to look at heavy modular frame and it's way more complicated to the point of "ok I need to figure out how to route in the resources I require for this"

[merry ore]

Just do what I did and complete all the research and Project Assembly with like 3 dirt-mounted spaghetti bases stuffing random stuff I to depots and one Slooped manufacturer you hand-feed out of four boxes for anything more complex than modular frames.
Then you have everything unlocked to build your perfect factory when you finally go to build an actual factory.
Then you get distracted and don't actually do that.

[tall lantern]

for the early game specifically, and for other basic production (like your first intro to oil) I usually do the former, but once you get into the recipes that need multiple resources or less nice numbers, it's definitely better to work for a target number

some people just always go for a target number and see what they need

[weak bloom]

Yep that's exactly what I'm doing with hmf

[charred magnet]

I will keep that in mind thanks

[weak bloom]

"I need HOW MANY IRON?!?"

[ornate saffron]

all, you need all the iron :p

[unkempt blade]

I'll usually be like "well there's X nodes in this area I want to use as much of them as I can making primarily Y and filling in with Z"

[velvet thorn]

Yes

[charred magnet]

I think trying to get past early game as soon as possible is something that I never really strived for lol

[weak bloom]

I tried to do that. Then I got distracted building 48 coal generators in the lake and then I got distracted making the components factory I mentioned and then I got distracted-

[velvet thorn]

I just tried to rush coal power so I don't have to deal with refilling biomass burners

[unkempt blade]

I'm also not an independency purist so when my consumption of an item type becomes greater than my production I just make another factory for it and hook it up to my train network

[merry ore]

I've been using the calculator, plugging in what I actually need for and end product, then fiddling it to make more until I've consumed the whole node.
Like with Pure recipes and Stitched Plate the 25 Reinforced Iron Plate factory I wanted could instead be 128 plates using 599 Iron from an overclocked Mk3

[charred magnet]

average satisfactory moment lmao

[weak bloom]

Yeah rush coal power and then you'll have the freedom to get distracted xD

[velvet thorn]

Exactly

[merry ore]

"As soon as possible" in this case was still like 100 hours lmao, and I spent most of that exploring

[charred magnet]

very wise move lol

[velvet thorn]

Now my friends that I play with hate me for making a huge mess but functional factories

[charred magnet]

for me is obsessing over how the smallest of buildings which I will eventually tear down will look lmao
uneven cable lengths and messy wiring is not acceptable

[ornate saffron]

there is some mental blocks you can reach. A coworker always got caught in decision paralyses because he new a better way of building something was around the corner. so he never really built anything then stopped playing. and when he did build something he needed to deconstruct it the second there was in his view a more optimal way.

I had the opposite issue my first run. I always wanted to see what next phase and tier brought so i just slapped spaghetti down in the dirt of made a sky plateform said good enough and raced ahead

[velvet thorn]

Only issue now is that while I was building all the coal plants my friend tore it down bc there was too much spaghetti
He has yet to look at where I automated rotors and reinforced iron plates

[unkempt blade]

Put a sign on the factory that lists the ins/outs and tell them to deal with it. That's enough communication 😆

[merry ore]

But now that I got it into my head to make a 128/min (Stitched) Reinforced Iron Plate factory to ship Iron Plates out to anywhere that needs them by train, I'm torn by whether I should instead switch to Adhered Reinforced Plates and just ship in rubber since I'm already going to have rail to it.
So I just do neither.

[unkempt blade]

stick to the plan and try the other recipe out when you need more production 🙂

[merry ore]

I still need to actually lay rails and I hate that even with blueprint auto-connect now.

[charred magnet]

LMAO

[merry ore]

Made a basic but decent 3x3 rail tower with built-in block signals I can just stretch across the map, got like a quarter of the way around the world and decided I hated it

I would do the full circuit, solid foundation on-the-world-grid setup I've seen a lot of people do but I just can't be arsed to spend 40 hours doing it like they apparently did lmao

[tall lantern]

train networks are best expanded organically

[leaden matrix]

I legit cant handle spaghetti, I dont know how people do it😭

[ornate saffron]

i just hyperfocus on other things and say F it thats a later problem lol

so i get messy machines ot meessy belts lol

[zenith pecan]

My focus often shifts heh, now I'm working on a coke plant.

[merry ore]

I am past the spaghetti phase of the game and well neat, orderly lines on foundations so laying track with blueprint autoconnect feels like a return to spaghet.
But I don't wanna do a lazy single-height foundation sky-rail either.

[leaden matrix]

I just, blehhhhh,
I have like one place that has spaghetti and the rest of it is located between buildings and I simply cant handle looking at any of it because its it actively raises my cortisol levels

[unkempt blade]

It's a bad move to tear down someone else's stuff without at least talking to them first. That's a speedrun to scaring all your friends away. Playing with other people requires a decent amount of letting other people play how they enjoy playing without letting it bother you

[velvet thorn]

I haven't unlocked signs on the save we are currently on rn
So I have just resorted to making the mess even larger
Just to piss him the hell off I made every conveyor in our rotor factory t1 and it is such a mess of conveyors that every resource takes nearly 4 hours to get to each machine
I worked on it overnight or when he wasn't home so he wouldn't kill me for not hosting the world and playing in single player
I plan on doing that exact same thing with every factory I make

[merry ore]

Hearing about spaghetti coal is kinda funny because that's one of the first things I typically build nice because the inputs are easy to manage with one big manifold lol

[leaden matrix]

For my first coal plant I had a amazingly beautiful manifold, however the piping on it was disgusting😭

[ornate saffron]

i respect it,

im takign days on a single project to let my brain not quick react to every problem. I need to think out the next step every time.

I built all the refinement machines and though about where to plave them before and and where the belts and pipes will go. then i stopped took screen shots and logged off

decided where the production building will be and how to get all the refined solids (ingots and such) to that area.

turn back on the game a day later did that work.

now its another two days later. I gotta figure out how many floors ill need for the allot space and where to put everything and run the logistics

hopefully this will make a cleaner factory lol

[unkempt blade]

Even early game I don't think it's all that hard to making something not completely messy but it definitely gets easy to make it more organized with awesome shop stuff + imo the hoverpack being a huge turning point

Being able to trace what's happening is the important part. If it's not stomping all over other parts of the production chain you should be able to follow it

[ornate saffron]

im using the towers atm is sucks lol
ive dbated spawning a hover pack

[unkempt blade]

yeah towers or foundations as scaffolds is more annoyance and effort than the hoverpack

[merry ore]

My first one I had elevated pipe and flat belts, now I always do lifts for coal and just drop a pipe cross on the floor behind each intake.
Same pattern for refineries.
Looks clean and sooooo much faster to place and connect.

[next ivy]

wait until you see the ladder cage

[merry ore]

I never used the hover pack until I started trying to mass-place rails

[ornate saffron]

i elevate both. then run a pipe from a junction down to the input. I like to always feed inputs from the top.

[ornate saffron]

trying to hide from tesls coils?

[charred magnet]

you know if I could make ONE change to the game it would be to make the lil mechanicals arms in the constructor not stick out of the 1 foundation width

[ornate saffron]

the amount of times i did not take those MFers into account man

[charred magnet]

I would pay for a mod for that omg it annoys me so much

like I have one right next to a wall and its just poking our on the other side

[ornate saffron]

Im fine with it now that i have trained myself to see it

[charred magnet]

I have a bit of OCD and it always eats away at my soul

[unkempt blade]

If I could add one thing it would be mk2 factory carts. If I could remove one thing it would be rocket fuel

[charred magnet]

Ive never used factory carts, what would the mk2 even do?

[unkempt blade]

Jetpacks welded to the sides so it could fly

[proven snow]

That's some very weird phrasing

Just build some coal plants, hook up coal and water, then get rid of your biomass burners

Better to make too much power than too little

[leaden matrix]

Coal is automated power
Biomass is manually fed power

:>

[proven snow]

Better to make too much than too little

You're making too little power using your coal generators, so make more coal generators. Just make sure there's enough water and coal too

If there's not enough coal/water, you can always ship from elsewhere or set up a 2nd coal power plant

[ornate saffron]

just leave your bio setup. Itll only burn biomass if you need the power otherwise itll sit on standby

[fluid sapphire]

looks like you might be going over pipe capacity?

some confusing pipework

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[charred magnet]

ah, fair enough

[ornate saffron]

i always imagine a cutout in the cart for your jetpack or hover pack to stick out of. As the Factory cart is obviously a jank vehicle put together with whatever was laying around lol

[glad drum]

You must become one with your spaghetti. Encourage its growth, ensure it stays healthy.

Plus, spaghetti is much easier if you do everything right the first time and never go back to try and "fix" things.

[fluid sapphire]

just make it orderly
#screenshots message

[glad drum]

That's lasagna.

[fluid sapphire]

lasagnetti 🤌

[glad drum]

#screenshots message - I will admit, I do have to take notes on my production/usage in a word doc --- but the spaghetti is always worth it.

[fluid sapphire]

my eyes went into 5fps mode looking at that

[glad drum]

fps has actually been totally fine, but I did have to move my HUB from the center of the spaghetti because every time I respawned, my game crashed

[flint mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/ass-hump-gay-butt-gif-7934430

[weak bloom]

That's. Certainly a url

[stuck escarp]

#screenshots message @high ledge r.water.SingleLayer 1

maybe

[flint mountain]

Get a load of this guy

[stuck escarp]

unless your game is just bugged

[charred magnet]

that would be very appropriate

[high ledge]

a restart seemed to fix it

[stuck escarp]

that would do it

[glad drum]

I was really hoping this was a new "drought" feature with 1.2 bringing seasonal changes

[autumn path]

I just hide mine under the factory floor inside a mechanical/utility floor

[stuck escarp]

cant wait for the winter season where your factory gets covoured in snow

[high ledge]

that would be cool

[stuck escarp]

that would actually be so cool i kinda want them to add like full on snow in 1.2 with the weather changes

an upgrade from the ficsit "real" snow

[autumn path]

i expect alot of routed vehicles the be in ditches from the ice

[glad drum]

your train rails get covered and snow and the train going through it creates a snow cloud that obstructs your visibility and drops your fps

[stuck escarp]

oh yeah lol

wait imagine drifting explorers on frozen lakes

[leaden turret]

ficsoween blood rain

[leaden matrix]

Weather-proofing certain machines would be a cool mechanic

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> will 1.2 trigger painted egg rain at easter?

[leaden turret]

☔

[stuck escarp]

devs take notes for DLC stuff maybe

i fear 1.2 is not a big enough update to bring all this

[ornate saffron]

in the video they released titled some along the lines of "6 things we will never add to satisfactory" one of the 6 things is maintenance .

[stuck escarp]

nothing about a DLC tho...

[leaden turret]

Contextual environment-dependant details on buildables https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/65cd81ec1545556f6c1c69dd

Water staining streaks running down surfaces should rain ever be restored to the game

[leaden matrix]

Not like maintenance(well sorta) but imagine placing heaters around to ensure there is no issues with certain machines

Or like imagine making a drill to drill through ice or smth

[ornate saffron]

for sure. but i somehow doubt they will add weather proofing lol

[stuck escarp]

yeah probably not

that might have to be left to modders

[leaden matrix]

Harvesting ice and putting it into a heater type building to make mass amounts of water would be neat🥹

[leaden turret]

nah, harvest ammonia, use as refrigerant to make ice cubes 😛

[ornate saffron]

to supply the hub

[leaden turret]

recycle ammonia from 🚽

[ornate saffron]

thats mostly for uranium

[leaden turret]

-# pootonium rods

[ornate saffron]

[mortal ginkgo]

would make 90% of the playerbase cry

especially those 49657839485903 fuel gen spammers on sky over 1m ficsit foundation zone kek

[next ivy]

add structural integrity to the game

💀

[mortal ginkgo]

95% playerbase died, even from reading this kek

[elfin smelt]

i think any addition that would require retrofitting older buildings is a no no

the game is not on early access anymore

[normal orbit]

structural integrity would prob destroy the game :p

[sick falcon]

why does a random crash site need a superposition oscillator 😭

[elfin smelt]

i didnt played in the EA phase, did they change anything that broke older stuff?

[normal orbit]

yea, when they added pipes :p

when nuclear gens suddenly needed water

[sick falcon]

which diamond recipe do you guys like

[hollow terrace]

What’s the best way of taking a train up an incline? I tried making it go up a set of 4m ramps but it won’t let me since the incline is too much.

[normal orbit]

load game and "fuse blown"

[hollow terrace]

Do I need to tone it down to 2m?

[hushed totem]

I personally did 2m and just used a blueprint

[normal orbit]

2m, or custom make a 3m incline

[sick falcon]

use autoconnect blueprint and itll just do it by itself

[hollow terrace]

Auto connect?

[drowsy kelp]

it's a build mode for blueprints

[sick falcon]

give me a second, ill send some screenshots

[hollow terrace]

Sounds good I’m currently “zooping” 2m ramps after placing 4m ramps

[hushed totem]

Honestly I personally haven't seen many uses for that, for me at least, but I also don't use blueprints that'd require it

[unkempt solar]

Will we get 1.2 experimental tomorrow or will they just anounce the date?

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message used beams and pillars to make my own incline :p

[normal orbit]

announce the date

[hushed totem]

I just recently built a like, 6 kilometer something sky train network and built it by hand, my game crashes if I go into the hyper tubes so I've been forced into train travel

[unkempt solar]

Will they just make an stream for that?

[sick falcon]

@hollow terrace that make sense?

[normal orbit]

will prob have more info

[hollow terrace]

Damn those are sick, I’m currently just placing basic foundations and ramps to connect my first train stations. Need to start bringing containers to aluminum factory which I still have to build

[hollow terrace]

Yeah that makes sense, one foundation, two tracks beside eachother and a pillar at the bottom

[sick falcon]

yea using towers and autocnnect makes trains a thousand times easier its so nice

[hollow terrace]

Sounds good, I’ll have to look into that

[lethal brook]

I wish we had markers for doggos or an easy way to bring ‘em home

[keen vault]

big large factory or modular factories for tier5/6

[weak bloom]

How does auto connect handle changing elevation? Does it actually smooth the curves properly?

[normal orbit]

if you plan to add something underneath the tracks, i dont recommend using auto connect for inclines

if you just want the tracks in air, go ahead

[sick falcon]

^

whats the purpose of instant scrap alt recipe? is it just the simplicity?

[normal orbit]

you can make blueprints to do auto connect tracks on inclines, which i did with #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

make same scrap as sloppy aluminium + electrode scrap, but in one machine as cost of some sulfuric acid

[weak bloom]

Hmm. What about creating a blueprint for a flat track pillar like yours, and also a pillar where the track is on a ramp, and just manually connect those, would that make the connection curve properly?

[normal orbit]

it connects the tracks yes

[weak bloom]

I kinda want to avoid the issue of like, if I have a long sloped section of track and I want a support in the middle, I don't want that bit to flatten out.

But I think the only way to cleanly avoid that is to ramp from the previous support and not rely on the height of the ground.....?

[normal orbit]

if you need to use multiple inclines it'll slope, even, slope, even, slope, being wavy. if you dont want that make your own slope blueprint

[sick falcon]

yea autoconnect isnt the greatest for that

[weak bloom]

Yeah...what I'm thinking is to make a blueprint for flat track support and 2m ramped track support, but NOT include the pillar. Then just build in the sky from support to support with temporary foundations, and then build the pillars to the ground after the fact

So I'm very precise with height always, and ground doesn't matter

It'll be slower but probably look a lot neater

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message these my blueprints for inclines, start middle, end

[tardy turret]

guys whats after coal power?

[normal orbit]

fuel power

[next ivy]

oil powa

[tardy turret]

and what are blue prints mk1 that you unlock at tier 4 i think

[next ivy]

every blueprint planner tier gets you 1 more block

4³
5³
6³

[sick falcon]

am i doing the math wrong or are petroleum diamonds

1. slower than oil based diamonds
2. more complex than oil based diamonds
3. more expensive than oil based diamonds

[normal orbit]

lets you create designs you can repeat

[tardy turret]

like a whole factory line setup?

[next ivy]

yes

[normal orbit]

yes but no

you have limited space to work in, so you have to use soem creativity

[next ivy]

its limited in size, so you might have problems fitting your whole line in there

[normal orbit]

you can't just one click a massive factory

[next ivy]

my current go to is: BOX
#screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

my ultra personal opinion, it is there to have a valuable sink for heavy oil, incase you really need to sink it.

for me best recipe is the turbo diamonds especially if your main power source is Nuclear, which lets you not use oil that much and you will have tons of spare for other shenanigans.

[tardy turret]

that would be nice 🤣

[normal orbit]

oil based kinda most efficient to make diamonds, but oil is somewhat limited, so you have an oodle of coal variants

like if you make a lot of rocket fuel for power, turning the compacted coal byproduct into turbo fuel to make turbo diamonds isnt bad

[sick falcon]

i dont see a world where you ever need to sink hor tho

[mortal ginkgo]

People got different worlds so there is that.

I mean, some people make millions of screws just to sink them, to send a message, to show that we live in a society.

[normal orbit]

disgusting, least sinking them is a better option than using them :D

[rigid lion]

I haven’t genuinely encountered a screw shortage yet

But I got cast screws early

[ornate saffron]

shortage is usually not a issue. through put is. People try to move 6000 screws at once and get frustrated.

I construct my screws directly behind the machines that need them and direct feed them

[unkempt blade]

There's a lot of oil on the map. Normal finish-the-game saves and then some don't really need to worry about running out of specific resources

[normal orbit]

there is a lot yes, but not enough :3

[rigid lion]

Ahh, that makes more sense. It’s my first run so my maths is a bit caveman. I’ve just been saturating belts and machines with a rough idea of ratio for the most part

[ornate saffron]

that varies user to user. I am the middle ground i think i build bigger then average but not monstrous. I've had no issues

a large portion of the player base will never use every ore and node. A console user cant as they will reach the object limit before doing so

[unkempt blade]

If someone is a sweaty outlier and wants to use all of a resource then they can go do the planning/math and make it happen. For most saves running out isn't realistic

[normal orbit]

i did some maffs, wanting to save on sam to make dark matter crystals. i think i found i would need something like 1200 time crystals/min

among all steps needing em

probably not gonna do that

but if i'm bored at some point :p

[stuck escarp]

whats the sepperation needed between rails for them to not count as one rail block

i should know this by now but i dont

[random patrol]

anyone know whats going on with Epic software and it randomly opening my social and even opening a tab in my browser for the epic login

causes the game to loose focus as well

[normal orbit]

if you place them in the middle of a foundation thats enough space

I think you can place tracks on the very edges of a single foundation and its ok

[stuck escarp]

i kinda want them to be as close as possible aesthetically

check my post in #screenshots

im assuming that one is too close

[normal orbit]

those too close ya

i think i got a pic

[rigid lion]

My current gripe is finding a reasonable quartz deposit

[stuck escarp]

where aboouts are you on the map

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message this is the closest they can be

[rigid lion]

my main factory is in the rocky desert, my best option is probably the caves

[normal orbit]

for trains not to collide when meeting

[rigid lion]

But a ballache to bring it up to the railway

[stuck escarp]

yeah i think so

2 pure and 1 normal in there

along with a sam node too

[normal orbit]

yes that should be fine

[rigid lion]

Forgot about the Sam, easier than bringing it down the mountain

[stuck escarp]

your next best bet is in the valley between the spire coast and the northern forest i think

there are 2 impure nodes iirc

[rigid lion]

My main railway spine is not as high as I should have built it so planning around it is a little awkward

Caves I go

Im just now starting phase three project parts

[stuck escarp]

maybe just belt them out the caves and around the mountains to the railway

thats what i did with my starterbase area

[rigid lion]

Yeah I think I will

I’ve got sulfur doing something similar

[stuck escarp]

i didnt need to put it on a train i just belted it over

and used the train line as support

cus ive got belt slots under my railway bp

[rigid lion]

Yeah I like that

Speaking of rails, it took me a good hour today to figure out signalling

[stuck escarp]

yeah it took me a while

[rigid lion]

now nothing crashes so we’re good, but proper confusing at first.

[stuck escarp]

and i havent done train stuff in ages so ive had to relearn it recently

especially coming from factorio the signals work slightly differently

[rigid lion]

I see the entertainment value in train sims now

[normal orbit]

i like the :3 signs :p

[rigid lion]

Factorio probably gonna be my next game

[stuck escarp]

i had to unteach myself satisfactory signalling and learn the factorio ways

only to have to go back to how i used to know it recently

[rigid lion]

I feel like the signalling is a little barebones in satisfactory but it’s not a train sim and it works perfectly well.

[stuck escarp]

lol yeah it stemmed from me making a really old :3 street light bp that i spammed everywhere with a friend

[normal orbit]

i do wish we have dynamic pathing without needing to mod it in

[stuck escarp]

and then i just decided to put it into my train blueprint and then my belt supports too

[stuck escarp]

yeah i agree

[normal orbit]

i'd redo my chungus train highway if they add it :p

[stuck escarp]

it works enough for you to set them up sorta however you want

tbh its more the trains that are simple than the signals

the signals are okay but the trains just sorta take the shortest path and if they cant go their calculated shortest path they throw a hissy fit and stop

[rigid lion]

Yeah I have had some issues with roundabouts

And now all roundabouts are one block because they liked derailing each other taking silly routes

[normal orbit]

not had roundabout issues, but i chain path signals thru em

[rigid lion]

Where it loops back on itself?

[normal orbit]

#design-and-architecture message no

[rigid lion]

Ohhh. Mine aren’t that complex, I’ve just been using hornslets prebuilt sections because I got lazy

That looks great, how’d you do the lights

[normal orbit]

just clip signs into each other

[stuck escarp]

wait you CAN do that

i thought that was just a factorio thing

i dont actually know how the path signals work lol

i just put them at entrances and call it a day

[normal orbit]

chaining signals tend to make them more efficient when reserving a path

[ornate saffron]

they talk to other signals and calculate if two trans can go though the intersection at once

[rigid lion]

Unrelated to trains but Jesus some of these project parts are resource intensive. I thought HMF were bad but the adaptive control units are killing me

[stuck escarp]

oh right okay so i did sorta know how they work

now im even more confused

[normal orbit]

path signals link to other path signals

to create a chain

[ornate saffron]

ya, its a thing. I find phase 4 the most complex if you learned well phase 5 is large but nothing you hadnt learned already

[rigid lion]

Im finding resources easier with trains but every component group is ending up with its own factory now

Ive probably spent as much time in phase 3 as I have in phase 0-2 combined

[normal orbit]

having a train highway spanning the map, makes expansion super easy, since you can just branch off, make station and build factory in relation to it

the logistics are already there

if you need something you already make, make a train, set the time table and you got it

[rigid lion]

Yeah that’s what I’m working towards and it’s extremely satisfying

I have a big 2 way spine starting to loop the map with various offshoots

And some really janky single railway loops I built before the main railway but I try not to look at them

World grid has ceased to matter to trains but that’s what nudging is for

[normal orbit]

yea, the way players go, make multiple grids, then learn about world grid, use that, then make train and stop using world grid like they did when they started :p

[sick falcon]

^ steel screws can match basically any single machines need, makes screws so much more manageable

[rigid lion]

It’s freeing, once the trains completed it becomes the base for the grid anyway