satisfactory

[void gorge]

Heyhey leo

[abstract heron]

yay my hrs total in game mikael 🙂

[void gorge]

20k?

[abstract heron]

18,648 hrs on record

[void gorge]

Ooooh getting there

Insane

[abstract heron]

also do you know why the game does so much memory in the game while starting the booting phase my world atm is 20k MB or GB idk

[void gorge]

O_o

I mean

[abstract heron]

Can that be changed for 1.2

[void gorge]

Are most of those 18k hrs on the same save?

But yeah every update tries to bring optimization and memory saving

[abstract heron]

4,851hr in my current world

[void gorge]

1.2 is no exception

Yeeeaaaah that's pretty rough hah

Assuming more building than dismantling

[abstract heron]

I am hoping 1.2 has memory saving points and

WHAT Happened to the splines for train tracks?

[void gorge]

Have you removed uObject limits?

[abstract heron]

i have 176k atm and i had to up it to 100million with the uobject limlt mod

[void gorge]

Mmmmmh

The limit's there for a reason :D

[abstract heron]

2million one i hit it so quickly

[abstract heron]

But i am hoping for this friday's video 🙂

[void gorge]

Will be giga short and sweet

Also maybe stream with the video

If we have time, also pretty short if so

[abstract heron]

are we getting 1.2 news?

[void gorge]

Talk more 'bout it tomorrow on dev stream

Who knows 👀

[abstract heron]

and yes world is cooling off atm

[abstract heron]

And yes i wanna leave a 20k hr something

huh

i have 😛

[abstract heron]

I am hoping that i don't have to restart

[normal orbit]

Be funny if Mikael goes: "specifically only Leo will need to restart" :p

[abstract heron]

i already restarted due to 1.0 i don't wanna restart again my world is over year old

[elfin idol]

ok but kinda worth rn for me xD

[abstract heron]

idk if he is on atm for guru

[elfin idol]

#screenshots

[abstract heron]

can u make a machine even 1 and leave it running for a while?

[elfin idol]

i could but ive only got one depot and the nearest quartz node is very far

more just for research for rn

[abstract heron]

When i play i like to have 1 machine at the start making every time and have a mess and making items

[glacial drum]

Maybe go over there with a few port miners and throw em down

[jagged nymph]

do hypertube entrances always use power or only when you enter them

[glacial drum]

or just throw down a miner into a box

[void gorge]

If 18k + hrs on save, we yeet n delete

[elfin idol]

lol #screenshots

[void gorge]

This really was intended as a one-time world change, HIGHLY unlikely nodes or anything shift in the established map ever again

Even for a potential 2.0 or similar updates

[glacial drum]

Nodes are shifting in this new update?

Aw shucks.

[abstract heron]

so no spline update for trains

[void gorge]

We're deleting all of them

Every single one

Or better yet, all of it is uranium hf

[glacial drum]

Yk what. Heck yea

[normal orbit]

Only water extractors and pipes. Enjoy

[glacial drum]

I support it!

[abstract heron]

Everything pure urnaium then

[glacial drum]

Makesatisfactoryirradiatedagain!

[jagged nymph]

.

[glacial drum]

I just finished a week or so ago on my 250+ hour play through for the first time.

[elfin idol]

wait so nodes and stuff might shift soon and ill have to restart potentially?

[glacial drum]

I believe they always use power. You can use power priority switches to deprioritize them though.

[elfin idol]

or will my current world be the same

[abstract heron]

i hate it when a pipe auto connects before u add a pipeline support and WE NEED stackable conveyor and pipleline stackable zooping in all ways @void gorge

That the stackable zooping in all ways be in for 1.2 or is it to late?

[glacial drum]

pardon if I’m misunderstanding but you want support zooping in the non Y dimension..?

Z*

[abstract heron]

atm the zooping thing only goes up and down

not left to right

[glacial drum]

Yk what maybe it is Y. I forgot my dimensions

Ah I get it now. My brain was telling me from front to back not sideways.

[frosty sedge]

Is there a mobile android app so I can learn satisfactory while not playing

[glacial drum]

There are a few youtubers you could watch. Kibitz is a guy with too much damn time on his hands for one.

I’ve just started using foundation blueprints

I think there’s a mod for better zooping but I’m on console

[frosty sedge]

I wish I had an app

[eager palm]

6x6 foundation squares EVERYWHERE

[jagged nymph]

theres a mod that lets you zoop up to i think 50x50

[eager palm]

One of the QOL mods I always use, but sometimes it be slapping down 2x10 when I’m trying to make a 1x10 because I’m sloppy

[normal orbit]

You can learn the zoop flick and lay down lines of 10 fairly fast :p

[eager palm]

Which is totally fair. Modding gives you access to things you shouldn’t have access to, like MK3 blueprints in early game.

I use a 2ms loop E macro for early game leaf collecting. 🤣 Holding E too slow, we tryna ZOOM

I may or may not cheat mk4 blueprints 😬

The most annoying part is organizing them in the menu after importing the folder.

To be fair, we’re not supposed to have to do that in normal gameplay

[ornate saffron]

I think my best time is around 70-75 hours. But im not trying to speed run

[gilded python]

Hi gang, is there a channel for dedicated server hosting stuff and talking about it?

[ornate saffron]

No... I skipped coal a few times though

[ornate saffron]

#dedicated-servers

[gilded python]

Ah sorry, im blind :D

[unkempt blade]

My 1.0 save was a little bit slower than this without mods, etc. but we also did some vanity projects so I definitely think I could go faster especially with disassembling crashes now

[ornate saffron]

Np

[unkempt blade]

the materials from crashes seems pretty huge for speeding up the first 2 phases or so

[gilded python]

there is no info for dedicated server channel, its missing there

[ornate saffron]

Dedicated servers are the one thing not mentioned.

But you have found what you are looking for ^-^

[gilded python]

Shame! 🔔

[unkempt blade]

Yeah Snutt doesn't have the pull to add a mk2 factory cart anymore so we're counting on Mikael and Jason to make it happen

[gilded python]

yeah shame on me that I was too hasty

[unkempt blade]

I'm just proud of you for catching an omission in #welcome instead of just pretending to have read it like most people

[gilded python]

yeah no problem :D

[rugged burrow]

Not that Im unhappy about the map, everywhere is beautiful- but do you guys think devs will ever make a new area or something?

[unkempt blade]

It sounds like "don't hold your breath for one" so far but maybe if we keep promising to shovel piles of money at them they will

[rugged burrow]

Yeah im not complaining, and if it never has more areas its fine. The 'what if' is nice to think of though

Like... imagine a magma area, or an underwater cavern... somehow

Floating sky islands idk

Floating islands with upside down waterfalls

[ornate saffron]

Css apperently recently hired more developers. One could hope this means dlc or new project

[rugged burrow]

Ohhh yeah ice too

[unkempt blade]

calling it now: Satisfactory Golf standalone game

[ornate saffron]

Satisgolf

[crystal siren]

Satis is not their only game

[ornate saffron]

They publish many more. But satisfactory is there only game still in active development i think. Well that we are told about lol

1.2 around the corner tells us this lol

[unkempt blade]

It's going to make liquids more perfect than they already are! Hype!

[ornate saffron]

Fluid carts.

[ornate saffron]

Little propane tank strapped to the roof

[unkempt blade]

which is the perfect leadup to the mk2 factory cart that has jetpacks welded to the sides

[ornate saffron]

A hole cut out of the back so the pioneers jetpack hangs out

[unkempt blade]

the sloshiness is the best part though

No one will come here and chat anymore if they don't have pipe questions to ask about. It'll ruin the game community

[timber plover]

They'll keep updating Satisfactory for as long as it's profitable of course. I'm sure they will release paid DLCs in the future as well, which I'll buy no matter what it is just to support the game

[mortal ginkgo]

We still have "cast screw recipe" depate

[unkempt blade]

It's clearly the best recipe in the game because it removes the rod step

[mortal ginkgo]

oh no, now you are going to automatically summon some.. questionable folk!

[timber plover]

How can it be the best recipe in the game, when you can completely remove screws from anything lol

Screws are obsolete and just unnecessary headache

[unkempt blade]

if you're not screwmaxing are you even really playing the game?

cast screws as an early drive is a great feeling

[rugged burrow]

Im debating if I should build a factory above a geyser field for aesthetics

I think theres even a way to use geysers? I never got that far

[ornate saffron]

It unlocks in the mam. Requires steel and quartz

[unkempt blade]

there's a power building that snaps onto them (that's sort of tall for the sake of your building plans)

[ornate saffron]

I wish i could use geothermal generators as a decoration

[rugged burrow]

Ohhh cool. I thought about building around it so it'd be like in a glass enclosure in the factory

[ornate saffron]

Really once you get steel production you can take advantage of them.

[rugged burrow]

All I have rn is biomass power... Im like a caveman throwing leaves in a fire

[ornate saffron]

Coal is usually people's top priority so you can stuff manual labour for power generation

[unkempt blade]

Yeah if you got it a couple tiers sooner it would be huuuuge. Where it is now is kind of just niche use cases or an amount of power that isn't super important compared to your other output

[ornate saffron]

Other then motors everything there you can get real early. And even then there is lots of free motors in the game

[unkempt blade]

In guess if you knew what you're doing crash sites would cover the gap?

[unkempt blade]

I would have figured circuit boards would be the real bottleneck

[ornate saffron]

There is a stack of 100 in the blue crater...... on the shore near a geothermal node lol

[mortal ginkgo]

got some easy speed connectors from doggos so I got geothermals in phase 2

[ornate saffron]

I generally dont like coal. Like its a good stop gap.

But I feel like its a waste of my time. In the long run I often disassemble my coal setup so I can use the coal elsewhere

[reef basin]

its purpose is not to give you tons of power, it's to give you stable, unfailable power

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I get it. It just felt more useful to me before priority power switches (which unlock before geothermal does)

The added function of geothermal for me was normally making my power production failproof but now I just slap priority switches on my all my consumer factories

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro got his priorities straight

[crystal cedar]

I'm curious now

[ornate saffron]

Its less then 80. But that doesn't change the fact he knows his shit

[crystal cedar]

Fr

[crystal cedar]

How tho? I barely know my shit(i hv 700h)

[reef basin]

~50 hours, out of which only like ~30 is actual gameplay

[reef basin]

last opened around May 2019

[ornate saffron]

He is a math guy and authored satisfactory tools. Likely the most used 3rd party tool.

Theoretical scientists dont do practical work but they know what they are talking about

[zealous urchin]

rel

[reef basin]

7 years of listening to people complaining about screws and pipes on this server

[zealous urchin]

pipes being bad ensures existance of this server

[normal orbit]

pipes arent bad, peoples understanding of them is

[reef basin]

players being bad at pipes*

[unkempt blade]

Don't worry I'm here to be relentlessly positive about both of those things

Pipes are a great logistics mechanic and cast screws is clearly the best recipe tied with all other recipes

[reef basin]

you're positive about a bad recipe tho 😛

[zealous urchin]

RELLL

class and sass brother

[normal orbit]

i do think css should add like a little pipe tutorial when you unlock phase 2. cause the amount of people i see not understand you cannot cram a higher flowrate than pipe can handle into it. is just a lot

[fiery pewter]

Is there a belt tutorial?

I believe not, so its just FAFO

Apply same logic to pipes

Or just an ADA voiceline when you place a pipe

[zealous urchin]

its bold to link ur steam profile having interesting comments there

[zealous urchin]

still i think u arent positive enough

[unkempt blade]

whenever he disagrees with me I just interpret it as his way of telling me that he loves me and he cares about my welfare

[zealous urchin]

i can smell that 6.423% of doubt/m from behind a screen

[unkempt blade]

all of the years

[zealous urchin]

this sounds like abusive relationship lol

[ornate saffron]

March 2022?

[unkempt blade]

Is that the last time I went outside? I should get my life together

[zealous urchin]

i meant the guy whos entire personality is factory carts

[unkempt blade]

I see you no-ing my message greeny. You're an amazing, talented person and I love you too, buddy.

[zealous urchin]

hello i am grumpy and will give sporadic short responses like "no" and "dont recommend" then ignore and block when u answer me

its been years, seven long ahh years but pipes, pipes never change

[unkempt blade]

I need to wait for my dog to wake up again then I'll try to struggle through nature some more

[zealous urchin]

@unborn gyro do u have any cat pictures?

id like some ragdols

smokey 🥺

[night sail]

Hey I had 5 purple power slugs I put them in a constructor to make power shards and also added a summersloop to double the output but the first power slug only gave 5 and all other gave 10 each is this a bug ?

[tall lantern]

that's normal

sloops and clock rate changes don't take effect until the next production cycle

[night sail]

Ooh

Should have put in blue first then

[tall lantern]

or an iron rod or something

or something

[mortal ginkgo]

or another silly recipe

[zealous urchin]

@ornate saffron are they all yours?

[ornate saffron]

Where. They have all passed over the last five years. Currently catless.

Waiting for the cat distribution system to kick in

[zealous urchin]

damn thats sad

[unkempt blade]

Very super #off-topic-media message

[zealous urchin]

they were lovely for sure

[reef basin]

What

[ornate saffron]

Two of old age two of cancer. But they were also old. I am a sucker for cats left behind.

[nocturne nebula]

what do you guys do once you complete tier 9?

[glacial drum]

Improve, replay, fuck around, lizard dog park

[unkempt blade]

usually something like this #screenshots message

[nocturne nebula]

VERY nice, lol

[ornate saffron]

Hit the dong and start tier 1

[acoustic bear]

I had issues with some lights I placed really high up. They were illuminating too much or something and causing my FPS to chop horribly

[glacial drum]

Personally I went back and build a factory for ficmas since I missed it while spending my hours working towards completion

[nocturne nebula]

fresh start?

I'm really happy with myself ... I always had fresh start cravings

now I am powering through and still enjoying it!

[ornate saffron]

Im a chronic fresh start enjoyer. I force myself to complete but I like the fresh start

[nocturne nebula]

nice, how often do you go again?

I have never gone all the way yet

stopped shortly after aluminium a few times

never got into pasta!

[ornate saffron]

1100 hours under my belt. 10 worlds 7 clears.

[nocturne nebula]

cool

im at 91 hours now but nowhere near the end, lol

waiting on phase 3 to complete

91 for current save

[ornate saffron]

Im currently working on phase three as well. Only at the start though

[nocturne nebula]

for whole game something crazy like 5k

I delayed automating things like computers frames, so I did that whilst versatile frames where going in from the previous phase

[ornate saffron]

#screenshots message

My current project

Ive gotten all the raw materials gathered and the first step of refinement done

[nocturne nebula]

nice, which service do you use?

I am about to switch from SCIM cos I don't like the layout

you might be using hte same one as zula

[tall lantern]

most people use that one, Tools

[ornate saffron]

I use spreadsheets then double check with tools

[nocturne nebula]

cool

[ornate saffron]

Although I have used scim to figure out home much waste i need for x plutonium rods

[nocturne nebula]

plutonium is another thing i've never gotten into

[ornate saffron]

This run will be my first time.

[tall lantern]

I do wish Tools had a nicer way to do the nuclear chain

[crystal cedar]

Then I assume, half(or atleast 1/8th) ur expertise comes from reading ppl yap on this server

[reef basin]

kinda yeah

[ornate saffron]

No. Ive made a rod for the achievements.

I have never used a rod in a reactor

[tardy turret]

umm so is cross play allowed

like im on steam/pc and friend on ps5

can we play together?

[ornate saffron]

Only n
Between consoles.

Pc is separated

[reef basin]

only between steam/epic, or between xbox/ps5

[tardy turret]

whos simon

[jagged nymph]

not me

[tardy turret]

what about mac? is it supported

[normal orbit]

Not atm

[tardy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[ornate saffron]

Supported but I know there is mac players here

It used to be a thing. They used to push it even. Then they didn't for a long time.

Now they are semi doing it again

[tardy turret]

well they arent really game but im trying to get them start satisfactory with me

[ornate saffron]

Yes, I dont know what they are but I have spoken to mac players in this discord

I bet you want more beacons too

[acoustic bear]

steam/proton has really made gaming on OSs other than windows possible

[ornate saffron]

The last time I talked to a mac user they were having issues with multiplayer :/

[acoustic bear]

idk enough about mac but it's probably something along those lines

[tardy turret]

well i just checked website they say not supported on mac yet

are pople playing it on VMs?

[sinful roost]

I'm not addicted, I would 100% stop but... my cat sleeps on my lap while I build the factory and I wouldn't want to wake kitty...

[ornate saffron]

Ya. Its not supported but ppl do it. I dont know how. I know little of mac.

Im a windows user and a Linux dabbler

[acoustic bear]

same. I use windows on my gaming PC but I'd use linux otherwise

[ornate saffron]

I found a playmate lined box helps.... sometimes

#off-topic-media message

[acoustic bear]

I think the companies are actively agreeing to not "step on each others toes" in a cartel type setup now

[jagged nymph]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1475517065061339317
any reason my consumption would be less than max even though every machine is running?

[acoustic bear]

light? hypertube?

[jagged nymph]

theres hypertubes yeah, but i checked and those always draw power

[acoustic bear]

awesomesinks?

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[acoustic bear]

maybe a resource extractor/miner?

[jagged nymph]

sinks always draw power

[acoustic bear]

idk. I'm just brainstorming shit I wouldn't expect to use power

[jagged nymph]

i mean its not too big of a deal its just confusing me

[acoustic bear]

yeah, interesting

[ornate saffron]

Trains?

[normal orbit]

Only when they eat

[jagged nymph]

nope not yet and you shoukd post this in the thing anyway

[jagged nymph]

oh really? i didnt know that, that must be it

[ornate saffron]

Om nom nom

[jagged nymph]

i have a couple sinks that arent running rn

[normal orbit]

Delete one and check power graph

[jagged nymph]

yeah ill try that

[acoustic bear]

I just checked

a sink only draws .1mw when not consuming

[jagged nymph]

id expect that to cause more fluctuations though, or do they draw power for a few seconds once something goes in 🤔

[acoustic bear]

I hooked up a sink to a biofuel burner and tried it with/without actively sinking parts

[jagged nymph]

yep its the sinks

[acoustic bear]

it goes between 0.1MW while idling to 30MW while sinking at any rate

science!

[jagged nymph]

not any rate what if it was 0.1 per minute

[acoustic bear]

hmm, I tried at 60 ppm using mk 1 belts

let me split it down to 20ppm

[jagged nymph]

now im curious what the limit for constant powoer draw is

[acoustic bear]

same

[normal orbit]

At low enough rate it'll prob turn on and off constantly

[jagged nymph]

it will

were wondering what that rate is

[acoustic bear]

I split some screws 3 ways and ran two lines back to the input so it's only 20ppm

[jagged nymph]

ill save you some time, the limit is less than 3 per minute

[acoustic bear]

that's enough to make it go up and down

yep

[jagged nymph]

cause im sinking 3 mod frames per minute and its on constantly

[acoustic bear]

it turns off between each part now

[jagged nymph]

at how many?

[acoustic bear]

20ppm

[jagged nymph]

hm my 3ppm is constantly on

[acoustic bear]

I split a mk1 line 3 times and only ran one line to the sink

the other two I merged together and ran into the rear of the same storage unit

so only 1/3 of the parts make it to the sink

I'm sinking screws

let me try something more complex

[jagged nymph]

never mind apparently after disconnecting and reconnecting the sink it fluctuates now

and it didnt before

[acoustic bear]

I think sink rate might depend on complexity too

[jagged nymph]

maybe

[acoustic bear]

frames > screws

[jagged nymph]

no the frames fluctuate now

after disconnecting and reconnecting power to the isnk

[acoustic bear]

I threw some FMF in

same fluctuations

trying 40ppm

that seems to be enough to get it to stay on

trying 30ppm

that's staying on

so I think it's 30ppm

1/2 a mk1 belt rate

that was an interesting rabbit hole, thanks!

[empty spoke]

what corner of the map is the best one to build a megafactory at?

[nocturne nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-bunny-rabbit-jump-scare-gif-12977487485869674980

Oh no. Embed fail!

[nocturne nebula]

I’d go with dune desert. North East

Looks like I’m not the only one. lol

[empty spoke]

let me change that, best corner thats over water lmao

[normal orbit]

dune desert has an entire coast line

[ornate saffron]

Don't both deserts?

[normal orbit]

yes

[jagged nymph]

i wish you could send nobelisks through hypertubes

[ornate saffron]

I've spent the least amount of time in the two deserts mind you lol

[ornate saffron]

For what purpose? Morter fire?

[jagged nymph]

idk would be fun

[normal orbit]

i like rockydesert, has all the goodies for start, and close proximity to lizard doggo cave :p

[jagged nymph]

i like northern forrest

it has everything

[proven snow]

I'm a forest enjoyer as well

Though I find it fun running away from initial spawns and trying to set up somewhere I haven't tried before

[normal orbit]

northern forest kind of lack sam node

[jagged nymph]

theres the one in the cave with the 2 quartz nodes and the one by the waterfall and coal nodes

[ornate saffron]

Same. I think its my favorite start.

[jagged nymph]

by the time you need more than that you have ways of travel that negates the issue of distance

[ornate saffron]

Ive done that many timea

[nocturne nebula]

lol

[ornate saffron]

Just cross the river and there is one
Near the coal

[proven snow]

Really excited to try random ores on my next run, whether vanilla or modded

[nocturne nebula]

My fave is dune dessert simply for the space

[jagged nymph]

theres no way to do that vanilla

[ornate saffron]

It'll be modded

[nocturne nebula]

It’s massive

[proven snow]

Gotta have something to fuel you until you get coal power

[nocturne nebula]

I believe that’s coming to 1.2

[jagged nymph]

my issue is that is that i cant play it cause it looks so boring

[jagged nymph]

really? whered they say that

[ornate saffron]

They all have lots of space.

But I like the challenges the trees and uneven terrain provide. They also breed unique builds

[normal orbit]

that one technicallty in titan forest :p

[nocturne nebula]

You have a point. But you can make your buildings look nice or focus your builds on the edge near the forest

[jagged nymph]

i just build stuff hanging over cliffs

[nocturne nebula]

Yes they do!

[ornate saffron]

They said there is a new game mod coming. Pretty sure they said it isn't random nodes

[proven snow]

I haven't been following along too specifically, but 1.2 will have a new gamemode.

That it will be random ores is just the general prediction I've seen. Not official

[nocturne nebula]

Are there still permanent trees in the northern forest?

[jagged nymph]

i see

[ornate saffron]

Not sure.

[nocturne nebula]

I’ve heard the opposite so live in hope. Hahahaha

[normal orbit]

cave with quartz nodes, you mean the one actually in the rocky desert? :p

[jagged nymph]

yeah but its still close to the northern forrest spawn

[ornate saffron]

Ya, but it isn't far. You are likely going there for coal anyways

[jagged nymph]

like a 45 secibd walk

[ornate saffron]

Its covered in the first dev stream of the year I believe I havent watched it though. I dont have the patients

[jagged nymph]

really? i go to the place with the waterfall and the circle ponds with the impure sam node

[elfin idol]

COALLL YIPPEEEE #screenshots

[jagged nymph]

nice, this your first playthrough?

[elfin idol]

yes

[normal orbit]

crater lakes, which is closer to rocky desert start :p

[ornate saffron]

I started on the cliff right near the rocky desert but in the forest.

I liked the pure nodes. Hop down the cliff for oil near and same quartz and coal across the river

[zinc dune]

Hi, are there bugs like this in the game? The browser shows a power slug, but it appears to be underground and there's no way to access it. Has anyone experienced a similar problem? on the screenshots channel

[jagged nymph]

that looks way better than 90 percent of first playthroughs ive seen (ESPECIALLY mine)

[jagged nymph]

yep thats where i go

[elfin idol]

i get annoyed if i make something that looks super ugly

[jagged nymph]

my builds usually start out looking ok and then you can tell the parts i made near the end because spaghett

[proven snow]

I don't know if there's any there are bugged out, but there are definitely some power slugs that are in underground caves with entrances that are hard to find

[elfin idol]

even this is actually annoying me so ima just make the foundations bigger

#screenshots

might use half foundations for pazzaz

[acoustic bear]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map locations

you can filter to see the caves/entrances

[normal orbit]

not a bug, its actually inside a cave, find the entrace somewhere nearby

[zinc dune]

The hill I sent the photo of is inside, but there doesn't seem to be any way to get inside the hill.

[elfin idol]

only 520 points per smart plating wth

scammed

[normal orbit]

also, tip. dont go cave spelunking without explosives. there are caves which have a diffrent exit to the entrance and is blocked with a destroyable wall :p

[jagged nymph]

i mean smart plating is super simple

coupons

interesting

[cosmic adder]

Anyone knows how many water extracrors i need for 8 coal plants?

[jagged nymph]

3

[cosmic adder]

Thanks

[normal orbit]

3 across two pipes

[cosmic adder]

so on both ends?

[white dawn]

As you move along in the game, it'll be quite useful (even necessary!) to learn how to figure out that kind of question yourself, btw. The machines will tell you how much they produce/consume from their control panels.

[tranquil flower]

thanks dude this helped

[white dawn]

For instance off you look at a coal gen, it'll tell you it needs 45/min water, and if you look at a water extractor it'll tell you it produces 120/min water

[cosmic adder]

I do know how to, but im to tired to calculate lol. Its my second play trough

[white dawn]

45 * 8 is 360. Divide that by 120 and you'll get the necessary 3 extractors

[cosmic adder]

👆

[white dawn]

Game's got a built in calculator btw; hit n

[cosmic adder]

Well we all learn smth new. Ty

[jagged nymph]

it also lets you search through the codex

[cosmic adder]

Ehh, doesnt rlly help. I usually use calculator (satisfactory one)

[white dawn]

Heh, honestly if you keep playing the game you're likely to occasionally stumble on neat QoL features after even years. :D

Here's another: basically anywhere that you can plug in a number (like clock settings in machines) can take equations as well.

[cosmic adder]

lol, 1.2 may bring smth new to help us

Thats good to know

[white dawn]

(They don't store the equations -- it just gets the result. But still, you can plug in math. :)

[cosmic adder]

yep, and if need just ctrl+C and V

[hollow turret]

wait there there is a ingame calculator

[zinc dune]

Another problem is that the unpowered version of this ore digger v2 can mine 120 resources per minute, while my friend's version shows a much lower value. What could be the reason? My game save goes up to the game's release date; I kept adding resources and didn't reset it. Could this be a bug from that, or does its efficiency increase with development?

[hollow turret]

it depends on the node

[hollow turret]

if you look at the node itll say something like pure impure and normal

[hollow gyro]

Howdy folks - trying to place a hyperloop junction such that it splits near the end of the remote end (an exit to different oil nodes) but can't seem to rotate the junction so that it can be used when coming from my hub. Is that something fixed by a mod?

[hollow turret]

wdym rotate the junction?

[zinc dune]

That hadn't even crossed my mind 😄 Thank you 🙂

[hollow gyro]

Guess I can adjust the main tube to go off to the right, first, then use the junction as intended.

[hollow turret]

your welcome

[hollow gyro]

My bad, I meant the branch. I'd have preferred to have the branch exit off to the right but I can just rebuild the loop to go elsewhere.

[fierce granite]

scroll wheel should rotate it after attaching it

initial scroll wheel should point direction, then after a single click it should rotate around the hypertube

[hollow gyro]

Oooo rgr, that makes sense! I wasn't tracking that rotation after the first click. ty!

[zinc dune]

This question is actually out of curiosity: will the game continue to evolve? 😄 What is the likelihood of new worlds or maps being added? Even if it's not a game like Deep Rock Galactic, what is the probability of this game evolving in the same way?

[mortal ginkgo]

This is all my speculation, but I honestly feel like devs are going to hard on this game further and 1.2 patch will be a kickstart for it with new game modes and whatnot.

Community Manager also stated that not in 1.2 patch but in later ones expecting new story stuff and "something big". Maybe they are the same things.

Devs also started to hire more people too.

[zinc dune]

I hope different maps and different species come out of this game. The only thing I enjoy as much as building is exploring.one of the few games whose world has impressed me

[sinful roost]

Hey quick reminder, all of your factories look great

[mortal ginkgo]

Then why am I constantly decorating them!? RRRREEEEE-

[frail galleon]

I'm planning on making 2,000 Concrete/min using the Fine Concrete alt. Will I ever need to upscale the production after it's finished?

[sinful roost]

Sorry limestone, I didn't see you were here. Please disregard.

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg literally dismissed me because I am impure 😭

[stone storm]

Hey everyone I've been playing satisfactory for about 4 days now. I'm looking for someone to play with on my current world. I have someone who likes to do research but not much for building. I was wondering if anyone would want to start playing with me on my current world not necessarily for advice but just to have someone who would be interested in playing through with me and setting up all kinds of factories long term. Not necessarily anyone to carry me as far as knowledge or setup just a gaming bro 😂

[elfin idol]

now hold on a minute why on earth do awesome sinks fluctuate power usage

thats so annoying

[acoustic bear]

lol we just talked about this a few hours back

it's .1MW at idle to 30MW when consuming more than 30ppm

[stone quiver]

I would ask, what comes after it that needs 2000 concrete?

[acoustic bear]

encased beams

[unkempt blade]

probably the best factory cart skatepark ever

[elfin idol]

so if i want a flat graph i need to make sure its getting more than 30ppm

hhhh

[mortal ginkgo]

they can do around 15/min item before going back to sleep mode, just send more silly stuff

[acoustic bear]

YEP

[acoustic bear]

I just tested it a few hours ago. I got 20ppm would fluctuate but 30ppm would stay consistent

[mortal ginkgo]

I think its not about points but how fast you bring items to it, wont die on that hill tho'

[acoustic bear]

I used a biofuel burner for a stand alone grid and some splitters to chop up a mk1 line to control the rate

[unkempt blade]

If you're pretty early in the game I would maybe just not stress too much about this one and just focus on the peak value. 10MW is going to not matter a ton as the game goes on

[acoustic bear]

if you scroll up like 1 hour or so you'll see me doing the math with another guy

it's definitely how fast you bring it parts

I tried complex items vs screws and it didn't matter

20 parts per minute (1 mk1 conveyor split into 3 lines with only 1 line sunk) would fluctuate and turn on/off but if I bumped it up to 1 mk1 conveyor split into 2 lines with only 1 sunk it would stay steady

so if your mark 1 belt is running at more than 1/2 capacity, it'll stay constant

[unkempt blade]

sounds like the answer is keep doubling factory output until the sink is always running

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but riddle me this, why does sinking impure limestone node limestone does not bring 1 coupon per limestone CONSISTENTLY?

[acoustic bear]

becuase the amount needed per coupon raises exponentially I think

[mortal ginkgo]

yes but so does limestone importance!

[acoustic bear]

so while limestone may give X points per 1 sunk, the amount needed per the ticket goes up

[unkempt blade]

the lobbyists for Big Spaceship Parts had space congress artificially lower the point value of limestone to keep all the good honest rock farmers down

sorry to get so political in a gaming server but the truth had to come out

[acoustic bear]

darn republicans

[stone quiver]

Everyone knows marginal value of limestone.

First limestone worth a milly, then downhill from there

[elfin idol]

wait no you dont

if you are far enough away which isnt that far, it just stays on

[stone quiver]

I think my points per ticket are at like 140m. Had to pull my power and sloops back though... need 200,000 MW to power my pasta farm and my other phase 5s. But we all know ticket farming is true end game

[acoustic bear]

interesting

[elfin idol]

but when you get close it starts to power cycle

[acoustic bear]

I'm testing now

[elfin idol]

at least i have one being fed like 8ppm, and it isnt cycling my graph

im maybe like 100m away

at most

[acoustic bear]

with no line at all, it's not power cycling

let me add some parts to sink

[mortal ginkgo]

I KNEW it. They are just simply, purely, amazingly, JELLY!

[acoustic bear]

so I'm sinking 20ppm now and going to run away and come back

[elfin idol]

im just figuring out the range rn lol

its very close like maybe even less than 50m

[acoustic bear]

hmm, it's staying constant now

and now it's fluctuating

weird af

[elfin idol]

its defo distance based

[acoustic bear]

I think you're right

[steel igloo]

there's no point trying to get a flat power graph, higher tiers have machines with fluctuating power and fluctuating power generation specifically to mess with people like you

[acoustic bear]

yeah, add a geyser to your network

[elfin idol]

yeah ill just not use those power options

easy

[acoustic bear]

well machines later fluctuate power

[steel igloo]

you can't not use the higher tier machines with fluctuating power

[acoustic bear]

like a particle accelerator swings wildy several 1000 kw

[steel igloo]

also geothermal is like 7GW (avg) of free power

[acoustic bear]

it's worth it

especially if you slap down some batteries to even out the generation

[steel igloo]

it just fluctates from like 3500-10500 over a few minutes

[normal orbit]

you could in theory try to stagger their production to match highs with lows. but i suspect you will go insane before it happens :p

[acoustic bear]

do they repeat the same production pattern?

[normal orbit]

yes but the power use isnt linear

[steel igloo]

one of them ramps up power over time then drops it off to nothing it's not a gentle swing up and down, the other fluctuates power wildly across it's possible generation ranges

[elfin idol]

ok so surely i can just use batteries to flatten the graph no? xd

[normal orbit]

batteries only kick in if consumption is greater than production

[steel igloo]

the graph still goes up and down just if you utilize 100% of the average power the batteries charge when the power is above consumption and discharge when it's below

[elfin idol]

i feel like i can do something with that in combination with priority power switches

ill find a way when i get there

[steel igloo]

see my #screenshots pic for a fairly normal looking end game power grid

[normal orbit]

that is not normal :o

[west jackal]

Do you guys feel like programmable splitter is useless? When it first was added i thought it would allow limiting item rate

[normal orbit]

why is your production graph fluctuating that much

[west jackal]

It just feels like a slightly better smart splitter

[steel igloo]

my nuclear plant has more burn capacity than the uranium node produces so nuclear products can't back up

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message thats a more normal graph :p

[west jackal]

That is absolutely generators turning on and off.

[steel igloo]

yeah it's intended, reactors burn faster than the machines can produce

[west jackal]

Why would you EVER intend that?

[elfin idol]

unnaceptable

get better

[steel igloo]

so radioactive components can't build up over time

[west jackal]

Yea... lowkey skill issue

Bro what?

The nuclear waste can get turned into plut rods and put into sink

Or you can burn them and turn into ficsonium at t9 I think

[elfin idol]

this what im thinking

[steel igloo]

I burn all the way through to ficsonium

[west jackal]

I thought ficsonium didnt have waste?

[normal orbit]

it doesnt

[steel igloo]

I didn't say waste building up I said radioactive products building up like all the intermediary stuff

[west jackal]

Dragon make your setup work better and you wont have that issue. That graph looks rough!

[normal orbit]

if they build up, you're not matching production to consumption :p

[slender folio]

why would I keep disconnecting from my friends game, we are on the same internet...

[steel igloo]

I run on a dedicated server that runs for years on end, ther's bugs that cause build up over time

instant plutonium cells make plutonium cells 20 at a time that feeds them into balanced belt assemblers that eat 20 at a time to make plutonium cells but after running a while suddenly one of the assemblers will have 21 cells in it, nothing in the game can make JUST one cell in a machine, the splitters sometimes spontaneously create things as they pass through

[west jackal]

Um okay, so you have an extra plut cell... what's the big deal? Over time itll balance out or create an extra?

And you can sink the rods so if youre worried about having too many rods just add overflow sink? A little radiation is expected...

[normal orbit]

no, it actually comes from machines having a start up time the first time you feed em items, with enough machines in a manifold there is a small time gap where you're producing more than you use for the intial

[steel igloo]

if you set up your reactors to consume at 100% capacity that extra one will have nowhere to go and it will build up and it happens at all stages of the nuclear process so if you set it up to exactly burn 100% of your incoming uranium stuff will build up and no it's 100% a splitter issue I created an item dupe machine using just mergers splitters and belts to prove it

[elfin idol]

plutonium waste -> fic rods -> use for nuclear power plants -> repeat until not enough biproduct production for another plant and use biproducts to make rods and just sink?

[steel igloo]

I don't want a huge radioactive area on my map I want my nuclear plant to be as clean as possible to walk through

[west jackal]

Literally what I was saying, if you have excess rods just sink it 😭

[west jackal]

Just forget about that... it happens with nuclear reactors

[steel igloo]

or just make about 5% more burn capacity than you have input and it never builds up, actual skill vs people thinking they understand the game bugs when they haven't tested for like 3 year builds lol

[elfin idol]

i mean look there are players that care more about neatness and players that care more about numbers and flat graphs, like thats fine lol im not gonna diss someone for having a playstyle

[dreamy nest]

you dont have to insult people who play differently than you

[steel igloo]

they insulted me telling me it was a skill issue first bro

[elfin idol]

i only said skill issue because you said it wasnt possible to have a flat endgame graph

i have nothing against your playstyle lol

[elfin idol]

thus why i said this

[dreamy nest]

thats also not a skill issue tho 🤣

[steel igloo]

I said it wasn't possible to have a flat endgame graph without building up nuclear products

[normal orbit]

it is. you can do a balanced manifold, which takes up a lot of space

[steel igloo]

again, splitters cause item dupes, very low probability over time, nuclear stuff builds up the longer it runs and mine run for years

[fiery pewter]

do you watch kibitz' vids?

Pretty flat graph if you ask me

He hasn't turned ficsonium on though

[elfin idol]

well point stands im playing this game for a flat graph

[fiery pewter]

Same

[elfin idol]

u aint convincing me its not possible

[fiery pewter]

I also put overflow belts on everything

I sink it all

To limit machine stoppages

[acoustic bear]

I do the same. I put too many storage containers as well

[normal orbit]

cant say i've ever seen a splitter dupe something if i'm honest, not in my 1000+ hours of gameplay

[elfin idol]

like u say we attacked ur playstyle you but you are the one who said this initially xD

anyway im off for dinner

[steel igloo]

you can't have a flat consumption graph in end game, that stands

[fiery pewter]

Eat well!

I have dinner rn

[normal orbit]

thats true

but production you absolutely can have flat

[steel igloo]

that's specifically what I was referring to there

[elfin idol]

well ill make it as flat as possible

[steel igloo]

in my pic I was more referring to the consumption graph the pic just happened to be during a uranium cycle

[fiery pewter]

I have been thinking about it though

What if you put the machines with a variable power consumation/min on an underpowered grid, somehow, and attach some fully charged batteries to the same grid

Won't that cancel one another out?

Or am I thinking wrong

[steel igloo]

you're thinking wrong, the power will still fluctuate on the graph

[normal orbit]

you'd have to make a separate power plant for the underpowered grid

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[steel igloo]

just batteries charge and discharge

[normal orbit]

and keep the variable chargers off main grid fully. then they wont show up. but that kinda defeats the purpose of power grids tho

[fiery pewter]

True

[normal orbit]

you'd jsut move the variance from one power grid to another

[fiery pewter]

Well my point is defeated then

What if you just grab a funny lil mod that makes biomass fully automatable and only use biomass burners to power a factory

[stone quiver]

Biomass is 75mw and actually lasts quite long, you could finish the game on only biomass, but it would be a lot of trees

[fiery pewter]

That's why fully automatable

[normal orbit]

biomass is 30MW

[fiery pewter]

Liquid biomass allowed lmao

[steel igloo]

so if you look at the pics here #screenshots message and setup that splitter/merger stack and then duplicate it a few hundred times to make a long chain of splitters and mergers all using mk6 belts then feed it from a container using a MK5 belt to make sure there's room on the Mk6 belt and say stick a few hundred alien protines in the container, and let it run for a while you will actually find that you end up with more alien protein than you put in, ironically this is a way to power a plant using biomass, tho you'd need a huge splitter/merger machine to dupe that fast, I made a huge one and it only made about 100 alien protein per day

[proper hound]

Will blow fuse once batteries run dry. They can only charge if you get excess power, so the average production must be equal or greater than the average consumption.

[steel igloo]

smart splitters work best at triggering the glitch but normal splitters do it too

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message @gritty falcon SPAGHETTI GALORE

[fiery pewter]

This kinda reminds me about trying to make infinite power irl using one of those blocks with multiple ports

[steel igloo]

yeah but in this game it actually works

[elfin idol]

find the glitch irl and ur sorted

just link more extension cables together itll work eventually

[stone quiver]

Ok... build more biomass burners instead of clocking it

[fiery pewter]

Eventually you'd lose more electricity than that you actually keep due to the hear buildup :/

[steel igloo]

just run sloops through the duplicator until you have enough to power your entire plant off the one biomass burner

[elfin idol]

just find a sloop irl

sorted

im sure coffeestain has one hidden somewhere

[fiery pewter]

Nah fam imma use water tower trick and a hydro-electric dam irl to make inf power

[stone quiver]

I am surprised hydro is not an option, would be unique looking and easy to set up

[elfin idol]

was mentioned by coffeestain before

said they were considering it

[tall lantern]

they're not too keen on renewables, but hydro on waterfalls could be an option as a very limited source (vs, wind turbines or solar panels that could basically go anywhere)

[steel igloo]

last I heard they said they didn't want us using "green" energy past the limited geothermal because the whole point of the game was exploiting the environment

[elfin idol]

particularly from waterfalls

[ornate saffron]

Last i heard from coffee stain is that any renewable sources like solar wind and hydro would be game breaking for game balance

[elfin idol]

waterfall power however they said was different

[stone quiver]

Easily fixed

[elfin idol]

as they are limited on the map

[stone quiver]

Just limit the amounts you can build or where

[elfin idol]

idk if that has been scrapped since tho i cant even remember when that video i watched was from

[fiery pewter]

Then I have a fix

[elfin idol]

it was a video of the stuff they wont be adding to the game

[normal orbit]

welp, i've put 10.000 items thru something like that and it hasnt duped anything yet

[ornate saffron]

Pretty sure i heard this in there .
"6 things we're never adding to satisfactory" video on youtube

[elfin idol]

u need a few cosmic rays to hit your processor

[stone quiver]

What are the 6 things

[fiery pewter]

Just have it require an unrenewable fuel

It specifically needs biomass for example

[steel igloo]

I mean the game is basically "finished" and is not exactly a "live services" type game so I'm not sure how many big changes or additions at this point

[ornate saffron]

Tower defense. Renewable energy are the only to i can remember. But the video is only 20 minutes long

[fiery pewter]

Lmao the lasers

[digital basalt]

Anyone elses blueprints randomly change order from Z to A? happen while organizing them.

[stone quiver]

That's what they're adding?

[elfin idol]

6 things we're never adding to satisfactory*

[eager palm]

Golf*

[ornate saffron]

Well they have plans for more story, and more game modes. Know clue what they are though

[fiery pewter]

Naw it was sarcastic vid

[ornate saffron]

Fixed ty

[normal orbit]

also you kinda only need two mergers above the smart splitters, right where it goes from T6 to T5 belt

[elfin idol]

i watched the same one, they did say waterfall power might be considered

[ornate saffron]

They said 1.2 is bigger then 1.1 and 1.3 is in the works.

[elfin idol]

in that video

[stone quiver]

Tower defense could work. You'd be building constructors assembler etc to feed materials from the waves. Then you can use the processed resources for upgrades. Would actually be fun

[ornate saffron]

Gotcha. As I said I can't clearly rememebr

[steel igloo]

10k is nothing it's a TINY chance, like almost 0 but not quite

[ornate saffron]

I'd rather just play a game with that designed from the get go like star rupture or rift breaker

[fiery pewter]

They did say SF was too late in development to majorly change the core of the game iirc

[elfin idol]

it might also be less likely if the system is packed

[fiery pewter]

I wonder what 1.3 will bring

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message also all mergers before last one is completly useless

[ornate saffron]

I wonder if its a game timer thing. Like it happens to tik on a zero or reset cycle or something

[elfin idol]

due to the fact that it physically cant dupe in a packed system lol

[steel igloo]

this is my duplicator that made about 100 alien protein per day and it probably has over 10000 alien protein on the belt at any given time #screenshots message

[fiery pewter]

Why is it in the swamp of all places

[steel igloo]

I like the swamp

[ornate saffron]

Why not.

You hating on the color filter

[acoustic bear]

how does that work?

[elfin idol]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[fiery pewter]

Alien confirmed

[acoustic bear]

I've been building in the swamp lately

it's pretty chill

[fiery pewter]

No I'm hating on the stingers

[fiery pewter]

Embed fail lmaooo

[acoustic bear]

passive + turbo ammo

[normal orbit]

considering all the mergers except last dont do jack, imma call bs on this duplicator :p

[ornate saffron]

Lol. Nuke them and build. Good to go

[fiery pewter]

Naw

Just don't go there, problem solvef

[steel igloo]

there's a very small but non-zero chance that splitters duplicate an item instead of passing it on correctly in one direction

[acoustic bear]

interesting

[normal orbit]

well chance is less than 1 in 20.000

[ornate saffron]

I play with kitty filter.

I dont have a issue with the models. I'd just rather look at cats.

But as a result I see them coming from a long way away

[acoustic bear]

I was just duplicating items in the blueprinter

[elfin idol]

its possible

[normal orbit]

so far it hasnt happened

[acoustic bear]

automated gate + truck = much more profitable duplicating

[steel igloo]

if the game worked right 100% of the time you'd be right but it doesn't

[fiery pewter]

enters cave
distant meow
leaves

[acoustic bear]

drive a truck through an automated gate in a blueprinter, save the blueprint and then dismantle the truck and reload the blueprinter

[normal orbit]

i'm kinda leaning to if it does work, its prob an issue with the cpu hitting 100% and causing some hiccup

[acoustic bear]

everything that's in the truck will be duped

[fiery pewter]

I dislike duping

Just do it with what you have, get creative

[acoustic bear]

it can definitely make the game less fun

[fiery pewter]

Which is almost the description of blueprint designers

[acoustic bear]

ehh, I've used it to make bigger builds. more sloops = more parts for bigger builds

[ornate saffron]

Im okay with it.

The only confusion I have is why bother. Just use advance game options and give yourself a stack

[steel igloo]

I'm leaning into some sort of race condition on the splitters where sometimes the game isn't 100% sure it output an item correctly so to make sure it doesn't accidentally delete something vital, say the hub part from pre 1.0 or a slug or a sloop or something that can't be recreated it defaults to making that extra one just in case and it's such a rare occurence CS didn't think it would be noticed

[ornate saffron]

You should just make a big post on the questions site eith all your details and info.

[fiery pewter]

Guys I'm going to automate Smart Plating now

I'm in tier 2

[steel igloo]

actually I can prove how much it dupes

[acoustic bear]

don't overcomplicate it. just setup a small smart plate operation and come back to it later when you get better recipes

[steel igloo]

figure out how many DNA capsules you have to sink with alien protein to get to where you need 8000 til next coupon with 70% of the bar full

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1475555681670140090/205F1C1.JPG?ex=699de9d1&is=699c9851&hm=8d6fb04722c02b645f84af0fa825544c97ae114c1563ae4418d813d5df0ed7d7&

[acoustic bear]

so much of the early game is just setting up your dimensional depots and feeding that

[fiery pewter]

I am not going to use those :3

[acoustic bear]

ouch

that's a big handicap

lots of inventory management then

[fiery pewter]

It really isn't

Certified logistics enjoyer

[acoustic bear]

it's not too bad if you can setup a mall/depot and then plan each build meticulously ahead of time

but I build too much shit on the fly

[fiery pewter]

I do plan ahead jes

I will also use project trains

[elfin idol]

100 a day and thats with 10000 protein on the belt, it seems to be 300ish in his screenshot chained, so you are looking at a raw dupe chance of like 0.0033% chance of duping per item going through a splitter

even lower if its less than 300

i just had to vaguely guess from the image

[steel igloo]

you need a LOT more than 300 protein to get to where a DNA coupon costs 25k

[normal orbit]

its even less, cause you have a 1200/min belt. so in a day, 24 hours you've moved 1.7 million items, if that results in 300 items... yea na

[elfin idol]

yeah i didnt account for that even as i wasnt sure on the belt rate

[steel igloo]

that belt rate is 780 it's pre 1.0 I didn't upgrade it

with a 480 input

[normal orbit]

so its a 480 belt

[steel igloo]

the input is yeah it works better if the belts aren't 100% full

[normal orbit]

but if you're using 480 on a 780 the mergers woudlnt be used at all

[steel igloo]

yet they are

[elfin idol]

so more like 4.25mill items resulting in 300 dupes

[acoustic bear]

you can do that in one button press in the blueprinter with much less CPU cycles wasted

[normal orbit]

i mean i used a 1200 belt with 780 exit belt, and only the last merger saw items

[elfin idol]

feels more cheaty

probably xD

[steel igloo]

again, this is an extremely rare glitch that happens a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the time

[stone quiver]

I didn't do depot until tier 9. It wasn't that hard to grab some materials for a build when needed

[acoustic bear]

geez

[steel igloo]

funnily enough https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1475558774210035912/200E0D1.JPG?ex=699decb2&is=699c9b32&hm=6de362310cdc8fd635369c33c886580143ef484f7a72fb08360b90edc1224e55&

[acoustic bear]

I ran around and collected spheres really early and had that going ASAP

[stone quiver]

Well, unless you know where Sam is and that depot exists . I didn't need massive amounts of materials until end game anyway

[elfin idol]

sam should be made more clear in some way i feel for new players

like a subtle hinting about its location now and then

[normal orbit]

they easy enough to find if you just explore a bit

[elfin idol]

i mean depends where you start i assume

[stone quiver]

Started in desert, no Sam remotely in view unless you decide "oh let me build ramps and ladders to the tops of everything"

[normal orbit]

dune desert have the node in a cave slightly north of start, which isnt super hard to find

[elfin idol]

yeah this is what i mean, like i think maybe after like phase 1 or 2 the game could give a hint about the closest SAM node somehow

[acoustic bear]

if you start in the grass fields it's clear there is something cool on top of the spires where SAM is

[elfin idol]

the cave with radioactive stuff in?

[dreamy nest]

im extra oblivious but i didnt notice this at all 🤣

[normal orbit]

dont recall if theres spicy rocks in there

[dreamy nest]

i think i still dont have that node actually

[normal orbit]

its in one of the rocks near the water

[elfin idol]

nvm i think i know the one you mean

[acoustic bear]

SAM usually has spires and crap around it

[elfin idol]

its like slightly west

[normal orbit]

grassy fields you kinda tend to fall down in the hole with the sam node at the bottom pretty early on :p

[abstract heron]

not 20k hr save YET

[dreamy nest]

this is the node i eventually ended up using because my roommate went "you havent found SAM yet???"

[normal orbit]

rocky desert you either find the node in the quartz cave, or up in crater lakes once you start scanning for coal :p

[gritty falcon]

what are some different ways i can color code my pipes? i could color them the exact color of the fluid/gas inside, or maybe i could color them based off of irl pipe color coding

and if i am gonna color code them the exact colors of the fluids/gasses then does anyone have the exact hex code colors of the gasses that i can use? i have tried in-game using win+shift+c (windows powertools color picker tool) but shadows and lighting makes it difficult

uh yea im aware

rip flowers o7

[leaden matrix]

The tier of doom and despair </3

[tranquil flower]

how come my production capacity is randomly spiking

hold on lemme send a screenshot

[tranquil flower]

#screenshots

[ornate saffron]

Many machines turning on at once?

[fiery pewter]

biomass as power?

[tranquil flower]

coal power

[fiery pewter]

well...

huh, then its either trying to start, or pipe/belt issue

try to start ur coal power plant whilst it isn't connected to the rest of your grids

only connect it to the rest if it can sustain itsefl

[leaden matrix]

I got past it a long while ago and its still a massive stain on my factory because im too lazy to clean it up ToT

[tranquil flower]

it works fine useually, it dosent go over the max capacity but sometimes the max capacity just goes down randomly and shuts off the whole grid

like every 15 mins or something

[fiery pewter]

maybe pipe issue, idk, I suggest making a post in #1038092680493801533 to give pictures and detailed explanation of your situation to get better help

[ionic cipher]

Hi ! Im on pc and i wld like to have an opinion i just unlocked Carbon and stuff and decided to moove my entire base close to the best Carbon spot but now I dont know what to do ? Should I rebuild my old factories or go on something new ?

[fiery pewter]

I'd suggest rebuilding to save travel time, but i advise against moving to each new thing you unlock

also, get coal power, waay more reliable than biomass

[ionic cipher]

Yeah but mooving from biomass to carbon is like the main thing in the early game ?

[normal orbit]

coal is automated power, so you just set it up and forget it until you need more power

[fiery pewter]

pretty much, that and steel

[ionic cipher]

I feel dumb there is no silver and copper close how can I do 🤣

[fiery pewter]

where you at

send screenshot

also, its iron

[fiery pewter]

in #screenshots

[ionic cipher]

sended

[fiery pewter]

ooh wow didn't expect you ther

one sec

[ionic cipher]

mb 🥸

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message here are some resources in your area

green is pure, orange is normal

[ionic cipher]

ok ty and whats the differences ?

[fiery pewter]

amount of resources you get

[ionic cipher]

so im fucked everything is like 500m or more

[fiery pewter]

so say with mk1 miners, impure is 30/min, normal is 60/min and pure is 120/min

[fiery pewter]

trust me, that's close

[ionic cipher]

man im like part 3

500m is ALOT

[fiery pewter]

I suggest making a direct ramp down to get easier acces to the nodes

[fiery pewter]

I'm tier 2 and going to there from like 2km to make a factory

[ionic cipher]

yeah but with hypertube and shit its faster i think

i have to walk XD

[fiery pewter]

hypertube needs power

try out the mam, in the quartz tree there are blade runners that make you run faster

you also get tractors in tier 3

[ionic cipher]

i dont know what to do

[ionic cipher]

so i should make a large coal factory then make i go down where other ressources are ?

[fiery pewter]

other way round

from personal experience, you do nbot want to handcraft all that

I suggest going back to basics, get your basic materials going, as well as rotors and reinforced iron plates

[ionic cipher]

so i make all of it around the coal

[fiery pewter]

you could to save walking in the long run

[ionic cipher]

i mean rotor are still advanced for me

[fiery pewter]

but it'll take some work

[ionic cipher]

yeah ill start with the coal so i can bypasss biomass

[fiery pewter]

seeing as you can fuel 24 coal generators witht that amount of coal, you'll want to automate rotors

[fiery pewter]

you do you, but don't say I didn't warn you :P

[normal orbit]

48 once you get mk3 belts :p

[ionic cipher]

wtf

[fiery pewter]

and mk2 miners*

or overclocking ig

[ionic cipher]

this game is madea for autistic people i swear

[fiery pewter]

is 1800 MW btw

[fiery pewter]

uhhh, no comment lmao

[ionic cipher]

im gonna try to start

and understand coal

[normal orbit]

coal power is just coal and water into a generator. its very simple :p

120 coal/min = 8 gens + 3 water extractors

[ionic cipher]

im fcked

[fiery pewter]

quick logic here:
1 coal generator needs 15 coal/min and 45m³ water/min

[elfin idol]

what paint finish should i get

the real difficult questions i know

[fiery pewter]

carbon steel on top imo

[ionic cipher]

i have 3 spot of pur close should i use 3 of them

[fiery pewter]

unpainted also goes hard

[elfin idol]

mmm ill go carbon steel

[fiery pewter]

you could, but I suggest, since you'll need coal for steel, to leave one node alone

[normal orbit]

go for it

[ionic cipher]

so 2 just for energy

u know where i can find like pre built coal factory to inspire my self

[fiery pewter]

yt is full it

[normal orbit]

prob can find some in #screenshots

[ionic cipher]

those yt tutos are for crazy 300hrs player not begginer like me

[fiery pewter]

I suggest checking out spectrumdad's vid on coal, that's the one that got me started

[ionic cipher]

ill take a look

ty

[fiery pewter]

yw

[leaden matrix]

Is it that one oil node? ToT

[fiery pewter]

no, a starter steel factory that needs planning

I might just yoink the entire biome for it

steel and electronics

[leaden matrix]

Ew, just do 10x the work to avoid using steel in as many cases as possible🥹

[fiery pewter]

what

no

heresy

traitor detected

[unkempt blade]

I agree, steel just makes everything worse

[fiery pewter]

such hate on steel

[unkempt blade]

it's certainly no screws except for steel screws which get a pass

[fiery pewter]

how dafuk am i going to avoid steel when I want a 35 GW power plant as soon as I unlock oil

[leaden matrix]

I hate steel sm bro😭
Worse part of the early game BY FAR

[fiery pewter]

its the best part

[normal orbit]

steel is lovely and easy :p

[unkempt blade]

but if you're really playing the game right you should be making either cast screws or aluminum ingots => beams/rods => screws

[fiery pewter]

why are u focussing on screws

[leaden matrix]

Mmmmmmm cast screwwwsssssss

I love cast screws

[ornate saffron]

Nothing wrong with steel or screws. Or screws made from rods. Just user error and preferance

[unkempt blade]

because steel screws got an exception but you should still try to make them from iron or aluminum instead for max efficiency

[fiery pewter]

what baout no screws at all

[leaden matrix]

:<

[fiery pewter]

less chance to get completely screwed

[unkempt blade]

that's quitter talk, all the best recipes use screws

[empty spoke]

how many trains would i need to get approx every node ingame?

[ornate saffron]

Thats a player choice.

One i dont agree with but respect

[fiery pewter]

depends on what througput rate you want

[leaden matrix]

Actually, the best recipe is screws🥹

[fiery pewter]

respectable answer

[unkempt blade]

you're very smart and talented and have worthwhile opinions about screws

[ornate saffron]

One train with all the freight cars running on sky rail with no elevation changes

[leaden matrix]

I mean, technically you could use one? It wouldnt be efficient but its however many you think you need tbh

[fiery pewter]

someone get the screw-glaze-police here

[unkempt blade]

every single car filled with screws!

[empty spoke]

hmm i meant more like with a realistically needed throughput

idk how much that would be like maybe 10k iron/min?

[fiery pewter]

that entirely depends on what you need

[normal orbit]

every node? god, prob 200+ trains i would guess

[unkempt blade]

You'd need to know route times, etc which would depend on where you build stuff. You might be interested in https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

[fiery pewter]

we can't help with that

[empty spoke]

damn 200 is a harsh number

[normal orbit]

its a fairly low estimate, 500 wouldnt surprise me

[empty spoke]

its my first time using trains so i have 0 feeling for numbers here

[ornate saffron]

Well there is a lot of factors making the question very open ended.

I am a player that wants to only move the most dense item I can.

Let's simplify that statement.

Why would I move the ore that ill turn into smartplates at 10/min. Smart plates are much more dense. So ill just build the plates at the iron nodes and move the smart plates

[leaden matrix]

Ohmygodihatetrainssomuchbutthegameisunplayablewithoutthem

[empty spoke]

won't work for me since im planning a megafactory lol

[fiery pewter]

train hate? gittouttahere

[leaden matrix]

I just REALLY hate laying track ToT

[ornate saffron]

Did that once. Never again.

But that is a thing you need to find out for yourself if its your jam

[mortal ginkgo]

auto connect can be your friend

[fiery pewter]

your game will crash and refuse to load the save

[fiery pewter]

POV: lazy

[normal orbit]

laying track is super easy with blueprints tho :p

[unkempt blade]

if you haven't made blueprints to help with train stuff yet they make it much nicer

[ornate saffron]

In that case dont use trains. Use belts. More upfront cost but it'll guarantee throughput with less headache.

Search videos in this discord upload led by @zenith pecan for inspiration

[leaden matrix]

Its my one true love (next to screws) that and blueprints, but its just so repetitive ToT

A sky rail would probably make my life easier but im just lazy

[empty spoke]

belts across the whole map??

[unkempt blade]

I'm a skyroad enthusiast #screenshots message but I don't think it reduces the actual train effort much if at all 😆

[ornate saffron]

Yes sir. Or under it

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message its fun to use terrain for the train highway :p

[zenith pecan]

I've definitely run multi-kilometre belts through the tunnel network.

[fickle locust]

Good god do not do a megafactory with every node on the map running through trains if you've never even used trains before

[mortal ginkgo]

there are multiple problems in this comment and I have no idea which one to address 😄

[leaden matrix]

Woah, beautiful blueprint

It doesnt reduce the effort but it makes it a little more mindless tbh, which is nice

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[fickle locust]

Pick, like, a biome and do a regional megafactory if you insist

[empty spoke]

i mean i dont mind using belts across the whole map, i just thought i wanna try out trains since i never got the chance to

is the throughput of trains really that uncalculable?

[ornate saffron]

Oh its totally calculable

Just trying to save you a headache. Since you are already building a logistics nightmare. Lots to track in a mega factory

[zenith pecan]

I guess my spire projects output system is as good an example as any.

[normal orbit]

kinda, cause you can't predict length, travel speed due to other trains interfereing

[ornate saffron]

Its the easiest to show some scale. Thats all lol

[normal orbit]

only way to really see is to watch the terminal and see the thruput the game is calculating, which is almost accurate

[empty spoke]

taromani ur running a megafactory rn?

[fickle locust]

Each train station maxes out at about 2,300 resource transfers per minute (it's limited by belt speed), but how many trains you need to achieve that is highly dependent on distance and signaling

[empty spoke]

are u like building 1 big factory for items each, lets say computers, or u building several computer factories?

[normal orbit]

you should not rely on more than a single belt per terminal

[zenith pecan]

Individual products tend to get one factory, granted a fairly large one, but not everything is under one roof, here's an example showing the end result being 150x motors & 20 rotors: #design-and-architecture message , the tour starts at the small foundry supplimenting steel ingots because the large one two biomes over didn't produce enough (even at 4800x) , it goes into the steel products plant, then shows the wire factory making 4320 wire that is all used for rotors & stators.

[ornate saffron]

Station or freight station thing?

Honestly dont know

[fickle locust]

Each freight station, but I see why that's confusing

[mighty flume]

So I’m confused I had an issue with a water extractor just not pumping water into pipes at all, but then I turned it 90° to the left and put the output like 5 feet further down and now everything flows perfectly anyone know why that might be

[fickle locust]

Each freight platform maxes out at ~2,300 per minute

[ornate saffron]

Lol I thought so just confirming. Ive never tried hitting a max rate.

I just add many trains to the same line

[leaden matrix]

Average pipe issue in satisfactory(you will never understand it):

[empty spoke]

okay so yall advice me to not use trains at all

[mighty flume]

Lmao ok at least I’m not dumb

[fickle locust]

No our advice is learn to use trains before you do a project involving a bajillion trains

[empty spoke]

well i mean i wont just start placing 1000s trains at once lmao obv il start small

[ornate saffron]

Is this your first game run?

[west jackal]

also trains take up so much space, a mega factory has like a bajillion foundations just for the trains 😛

[empty spoke]

no, but first run breaking through stage 4

[west jackal]

so effectively first run...

[empty spoke]

some sort of yea

sorry i meant phase 4*

[fickle locust]

Like I said, pick a smaller biome and run trains to pool all the resources there

[ornate saffron]

My suggestion is walking before running.

Complete the game in small steps with small factories until you see credits and save the mega factory for run two.

Its hard to plan out things you have yet to experience first hand.

That all bring said its advice feel free to ignore and ill still help where I can ^_^

[empty spoke]

always stopped at around tier 8

yea tbh i still feel like goin for the megafactory ngl lmao

[white dawn]

Megafactories are like Culprit 1 for Not Finishing The Game™. :D

[empty spoke]

only 1 way to find out lol

[white dawn]

You're kind of playing on Hard Mode with megafactories, and doing it to yourself. :)

(Which is fine so long as you're having fun, of course!)

[normal orbit]

their problem is more like wanting everything laid for them, which isnt gonna work

gonna be a lot of trial and error

[leaden matrix]

Atleast 15% of my playtime is fucking with pipes untill they work ToT
Sometimes its as simple as breaking and placing them again

[west jackal]

lowkey same. if you have oil factory, once you get it running you have to mess with it till it works

[bitter crow]

i thought the polymer handling was gonna be the easy part

20 refineries.

[west jackal]

sinking the polymer?

[bitter crow]

thats what im doing rn

i wanna make plubber n fabric out of it

[west jackal]

you doing HOR alt?

[ornate saffron]

Sink until needed.

One problem at a time ^-^

[west jackal]

valid

[acoustic bear]

modular factories using vehicles make stuff much easier

[west jackal]

modular how

i see people saying modular here all the time and it means something different each time

[leaden matrix]

Oh my god I love the awesome sink sm 🥹

[west jackal]

you guys think they will add a fluid sink in 1.2?

or ever^

[opal sphinx]

hi

[ornate saffron]

No i dont

[regal lantern]

Doubt it, packaging to sink is easy enough

[ornate saffron]

[nocturne nebula]

wooooh, time to unlock phase 3!

[fickle locust]

Yeah between packaging and the liquid-heavy recipes there are options. Same with how dark matter has the "produce lots of crystals" recipes and the "sink excess dark matter by making crystals" recipe

[ornate saffron]

Fluids is a key part of the challenge of phase 4 amd beyond. Sinking the byproduct completely removes the challenge and goes against the game design.

[neat pasture]

can i make a train track where two trains can run at the same time if one's running a loop and the other is going back and forth?

[nocturne nebula]

if only I could remmber wher my space elevator was, lol

[west jackal]

fair enough beefalo

[west jackal]

look at compass?

[fickle locust]

You can but it'll be difficult and won't scale very well

[leaden matrix]

Would it make my life easier, yeah
Are they going to do it

No

Its apart of the challenge, and thus apart of the fun! ^^

[ornate saffron]

On a single track the only way is a giant loop.

Most people make a two track one direction system

[regal lantern]

I sink all my byproduct fluids, make it so much easier than trying to use them and balance things

[neat pasture]

fair, i could also just make a singular train do a huge loop but honestly i cant be bothered

[nocturne nebula]

i'm kidding around, lol

[opal sphinx]

i playing satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

Yes but you are not sinking as fluids. You are turning them into another part and then sinking that. Adding complexity and other resources

[nocturne nebula]

enjoy!

best game EVER!

[regal lantern]

Yeah,

[opal sphinx]

yes

[neat pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[fickle locust]

Much easier to run both trains on the same loop--the distance a train travels doesn't matter* for throughput

*With many caveats don't @ me to tell me about it