satisfactory

[west jackal]

(gens at 100%)

[hybrid nymph]

Although there's one problem, it might lag the game quite a bit

[spare prism]

I had to split up my fuel bc not all pipes would fit it so I have part running 4 gens plus another area running 2 more then my main running 30

[hybrid nymph]

I never exceed about 25 fuel generators at one time

[west jackal]

This is with normal fuel not tfuel

[hybrid nymph]

Because I like to keep my frame rights high

[spare prism]

I have 36 rn

[west jackal]

and i normally do 240 gens to start

[hybrid nymph]

I currently have 24 turbo fuel generators fully overclocked

[spare prism]

I'm not overclocking the gens just the nodes

[hybrid nymph]

I mean technically you can just get by by using nothing but fuel generators, because for fully overclocked fuel generators generate the same amount of power as one nuclear reactor

[west jackal]

what

no?

[hybrid nymph]

Yes it does

One overclocked fuel generator generates 625 megawatts X4 =2500

Which is the same amount as one nuclear reactor

[spare prism]

Oh I have 10000 mw rn

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome, that's a great start, I have 18,000

[west jackal]

oh you typoed

you said "because for fully overclocked fuel gens" i didnt realize you meant four

[hybrid nymph]

Oh yeah I did make a typo

[west jackal]

but also. 24 fuel gens just aint enough, even at 250%; i normally do 48 GW of fuel before i even get to turbo fuel

i mean if it works for you then thats good. but id never have enough power. i dont even think 24 fully overclocked could run my fuel plant 😛

just kidding, it would take about 10 at 250 to run the factory

[hybrid nymph]

I've never consumed more than about 15,000 megawatts of power

I might never even bother with nuclear, the waste is just too much of a hassle

[west jackal]

how

[hybrid nymph]

I'm generating 18,000 and I've only been using about 9,000

[west jackal]

its not that bad to turn it into plut rods

[hybrid nymph]

Do you burn the plutonium fuel rods and just store the plutonium waste or do you just awesome sink the plutonium rods?

[west jackal]

or burn the plut and turn to ficsonium, although that is new, the last time i did nuclear was before that was added

when i did it before i sinked the plut

but i only had like 40 nuclear gens or something. this was a long time ago

[hybrid nymph]

I wish there was a mod that allowed you to make MOX nuclear fuel

Which is a hybrid of uranium and plutonium

[warm finch]

you're gonna want a lot more than that for phase 5

[short fiber]

I need a small help, what color should I make my oil pipes

I tried purple but it doesn't fit well

[west jackal]

for crude? i like black

[short fiber]

Omg it was so obvious, I forgot. I need soem sleep lmao

[hybrid nymph]

Black

[warm finch]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/154vft6/vencams_colour_list_25/

[west jackal]

hey deaf bringer! i finally kinda finished the computer factory.

im not sure if i love it, but im gonna leave it for now

[hybrid nymph]

Nice, how many computers/min?

[ivory zinc]

Dont remind me of

Doing allat

[west jackal]

The factory does 10 comps/min 7.5 High speed con/min 12.5 circuit board/min 178 packaged fuel/min 60 rubber/min and 51 plastic/min

[west jackal]

although i could greatly increased the packaged fuel if i had water near the factory

[ivory zinc]

Would 1 to 1 with a train technically work?

[west jackal]

wdym 1 to 1

[ivory zinc]

what i said

[reef basin]

1 to 1 what

[gloomy tusk]

@west jackal

how do you make the buildings look so clean when you curve them?

[west jackal]

wdym?

tbh they dont look that clean in person, but is there a specific part youre talking about?

[ivory zinc]

Say my factory needs 240 per min of an item and gets exactly 240 from a factory elsewhere but connected with a train would it work

[west jackal]

if you have suffecient buffer/trains yes

[reef basin]

yes, trains do not eat items

[west jackal]

it depends how far youre traveling, and how many trains you have

[ivory zinc]

I mean yea but how much of a buffer would i need at the target factory

[gloomy tusk]

its so pretty compared to my builds

[reef basin]

you usually just need to buffer the platforms due to platform lockout timer

definitely not more than 1

[ivory zinc]

We will see i supoose

I will notice if my turbofuel plant turns off

[gloomy tusk]

like i mean how you make it not look like a million foundations clipping together

[west jackal]

well, i really appreciate it, i dont know what to tell you though, i use the road barrier to rotate the next foundation by 15 degrees and did each line as 2 foundations

[west jackal]

oh lol, use asphalt

asphalt hides it 😛

[gloomy tusk]

Road barriers?

what about big curves?

[jagged nymph]

i usually do like 10gw of fuel power before going to turbo

but i also dont do huge power hungey fatories

[gloomy tusk]

i skipped turbo and went to rf

[west jackal]

i mean, this is a 24 sided polygon with each side being 2 foundations

[ivory zinc]

I got small turbofuel 😄

#design-and-architecture

[reef basin]

I usually wouldn't do turbo or rocket 🙂 just fuel -> nuclear

[west jackal]

for bigger curves im not entirely sure, but i think that the asphalt trick does it too, considering how much clipping there was before switching material

[west jackal]

greeny i thought you dont play? 😛

you just make bomb ass tools much of the community uses 🙂

[gloomy tusk]

how do you make the curves bigger though

[west jackal]

bigger than what

[gloomy tusk]

like less sharp of a turn

[west jackal]

what are you considering sharp though?

[gloomy tusk]

15 degress and above

[west jackal]

like what i have in mine is a 15 degree rotation

[full escarp]

Started a new world building in the void next to grasslands.

Not sure how many people like doing that

[gloomy tusk]

i did that for space elevator parts

[west jackal]

you can do smaller with just foundations I think, id suggest watching a yt video

[full escarp]

Im doing it for phase 2

[gloomy tusk]

after phase 3 you really start needing to branch out

[full escarp]

Oh I know haha

[gloomy tusk]

have you ever beaten the game?

[full escarp]

Me ? Nope.

Never bothered going past tier 6

Just lost interest countless times.

I love building good architecture though.

[gloomy tusk]

im on my first run and just hit tier 9

[full escarp]

Neat. Ive never beaten the game yet I have 1900 hours. Lol

[gloomy tusk]

HOLY

[full escarp]

I loooooove making cool architecture. I wasnt kidding haha

[gloomy tusk]

i have like 350hrs on just this save and almost beaten it

[west jackal]

thats wild. i havent beaten the game with like 2k, but most of those hours were pre-1.0

[full escarp]

Ditto

I started playing like 2 years ago

Maybe 2.5 now

[west jackal]

i think i have 1 save with 150 that was post 1.0 but didnt finished, and the other is the one im on now with 30 hrs

[west jackal]

i started 6.5 years ago
lol

[gloomy tusk]

i mean i started last years christmas

[west jackal]

you new players are so spoiled now :PP

back in my day there were no fluids, you extracted oil with a miner and it came out in barrels

[reef basin]

[old man voice] back in my days, we didn't have conveyor lifts

[west jackal]

gotta add that old man voice crack too

[gloomy tusk]

im thinking about using mods like infinite zoop and curves

should i?

[reef basin]

if you have finished the game, why not. First playthrough should be modless tho

[gloomy tusk]

i have finished nuclear pasta

[west jackal]

i would say things like infinite zoop and curves are qol enough that I personally wouldnt have an issue with using them

i loved smart mod back in the day, but last i checked they werent still developing it

its also gone out of favor after blueprints/nudging was added 🙂

[gloomy tusk]

or should i use noclip spawn any item and stuff like that fr

[gloomy tusk]

how do you have all of those roles

[west jackal]

bc hes smort

actually greeny, what qualifies for "Lead Pioneer"? is that like a mod type role>

[reef basin]

that's something along the lines of "valuable member of the community" or idk

[west jackal]

#screenshots message Lorax! That looks great!

[west jackal]

dang i really dont have any value 🙁

just playing around ^

[gloomy tusk]

thank you

it is my first attempt at any form of architecture

[full escarp]

Id say the biggest advantage to playing now is the blueprint machine

Hundreds of hours are saved that way.

[gloomy tusk]

i have been wondering how people put lights in their build though like this #screenshots message

[west jackal]

that and nudgin!

[full escarp]

Ah yea nudging.

[west jackal]

those are signs

[full escarp]

Soo....so useful dear God.

Signs brother.

[gloomy tusk]

a mod?

[west jackal]

no

[full escarp]

You can tweak them

[west jackal]

they are in the sink shop

[jagged nymph]

i was wondering why my versatile frameworks were filling up slowly

[full escarp]

Signs are op af

[west jackal]

they are very cute, i just cant get the color i want to show tho 🙂

[jagged nymph]

turns out i forgot one conveyer in a manifold and so it was running at like 25% speed

[west jackal]

the colors tend to wash out for me

[gloomy tusk]

but i have never seen one that has that dimensions or how to do that

[west jackal]

well... there is a bunch of sizes, and they likely have multiple stacked around and at weird angles

[full escarp]

Do you experiment with placement of things or do you just grind to get shit done

I mean that in the best way possible

[west jackal]

also that build may be modded? that build is freaking awesome looking

idk with nudging its possible, i sometimes forget about it since its still newish to me

[gloomy tusk]

nope

[full escarp]

....is that no to placement or a no to grinding

lol

[west jackal]

lol

[gloomy tusk]

yes

[full escarp]

lmao

[west jackal]

is there a way to isolate the power grid of one factory to see if stuff is turning off/on?

[gloomy tusk]

yes

[full escarp]

i need to show u guys a building ive got on this one world...you'd love it.

[gloomy tusk]

Priority power swithctc

[full escarp]

do i share in #screenshots ?

[gloomy tusk]

wonderful spelling from me

[full escarp]

or here

[gloomy tusk]

yes can't send images here

[full escarp]

cool np

[west jackal]

that doesnt show just one grid

[reef basin]

#screenshots is for sharing cool builds
if you want to discuss something though, use #design-and-architecture , #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533 depending on type of dicussion

[gloomy tusk]

let me get your roles

🥺

[reef basin]

that's... not how it works

not like the roles do anything anyway

[gloomy tusk]

/give lorax my roles

[gloomy tusk]

Are you an architect

like Holy crap thats impressive

[west jackal]

that dna is gorgeous

[full escarp]

no i just like making shit

Thanks!

I just take my time and come up with neat ideas

[west jackal]

er helix i associate that with dna lol

it looks cool though!

[full escarp]

Yes i love that one 😄

[gloomy tusk]

Very neat ideas

[full escarp]

its one of my fave central designs.

[west jackal]

tbh i like grinding factories, but im trying to focus more on buildings that dont disgust me like my old builds

that would be why ive started hiding the logistics under the floor LOL

[hybrid nymph]

Wow lots that happened here, what did I miss?

[full escarp]

Uh we are discussing i think architecture

and how to be cool 😛

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots message

my first attempt

[full escarp]

Its honestly very nice

i love the canterlevel effect u have going on

I appreciate stuff like that

[west jackal]

how did you pull off the pillar lattice in the second pic

[full escarp]

sec

oh i started in one section, rotated the pillars and carried the design through

than just placed the other pillars on an angle

repeated

lemme uhhhhh show my current thingy. Not as cool but very brutalist.

I honestly play with shit so much that i forget how i make certain things. I would love to share ideas with you though sometime if you wanna do an architecture session !

[gloomy tusk]

what kind of pc do you have

#off-topic-tech what are the specs

[full escarp]

oh nothing insane. I did a lot of what u see on my older pc

It was a gtx 1050ti with 32gb of ddr3

my current is 4060 with 32gb ddr5

(thank fuck i got ram before the prices skyrocketed)

[gloomy tusk]

the ram i wanted just increased in price by $300

[full escarp]

hiiiiyyyaaaaa.

[gloomy tusk]

im trying to get a good pc now 😭

[full escarp]

Ah dude i feel the pain

[gloomy tusk]

my budget is 2500

[hybrid nymph]

For a new PC?

[gloomy tusk]

yes

[ivory zinc]

Are 5 cb per minute enough for my personal need

[ivory zinc]

Easy

[gloomy tusk]

AUD

[ivory zinc]

Lemme calculate

[gloomy tusk]

#off-topic-tech

[ivory zinc]

Still easy

[reef basin]

depends if you'll use more or less than 5 CB/min on average

@timber plover (re: #screenshots ) the packaging and unpackaging has same oil to fuel ratio, so there's practically no difference

[ivory zinc]

I mean i making 60 overall. That covers computers, adaptive control units and 5 high speed connectors per min

Leaving me w 5 cb

[west jackal]

hey im making 60 /min too! but i havent automated adaptive im only t6

[ivory zinc]

Im only t6 too

[west jackal]

oh!

[ivory zinc]

Im regardless questioning if 5 cbs per min are enougj for myswlf

[drowsy kelp]

What’s cb

[west jackal]

yeah im bad about space elevator stuff. i dont like automating the space elevator parts till its the really hard ones (phase 4/5 parts)

[ivory zinc]

Same w high speed connextors

[west jackal]

circuit boards

[sterile blade]

You don't even need them for building, just unlocks in the MAM ^^

[ivory zinc]

Yea i automate everything

[ivory zinc]

Welp

[west jackal]

im doing 12.5 cb and 7.5 high speed, i think that i have too many cb and need more high speed lol

[ivory zinc]

5 will be enough

[ivory zinc]

For what do u need high speed

[west jackal]

but the high speed dont even get used that often unless youre doing a lot of programmable

[ivory zinc]

See

5 per min should do surely

[sterile blade]

You could fill half a container with a manually-fed Assembler and call it a day save-the-day in regards to circuit boards...
Ie: you only ever need a very limited amount

[west jackal]

yeah well. i wish i knew that before finishing the factory. im not changing it now

[ivory zinc]

5 per min aint too bad it seems

[sterile blade]

Could've asked before :P

[west jackal]

didnt need to ask. i just decided that 12.5 would be plenty

[ivory zinc]

I want everything automated anyway

[west jackal]

the rest get sinked, so its not that big of a deal lol

just missing out on a little computer/hsc

[ivory zinc]

Why do you have so much left?

Oh yea u dont do space elevator parts

[west jackal]

not automatically no.

so actually, i do need a lot of them lol

well... for now... 250 cb

soooooo many

[ivory zinc]

Im using steamed copper sheet for em now

[west jackal]

oh im using tempered copper and then just normal sheet alt

im using the pet coke from HOR byproduct to fuel the copper, although i couldve used that as power, but i didnt want to try and add power gens to my "beutiful" factory

[ivory zinc]

You can use pet coke for coal on recipes?

[normal orbit]

no, they have to specifically ask for coke

[ivory zinc]

Fair

[reef basin]

don't make things ahead of time, make them when you ened them

[sterile blade]

Only for power "recipes", so to speak...
(Ie: Coal Generators)

[ivory zinc]

Yea ik

Only used it in the very beginning of oil

[normal orbit]

only cuz coal gens have a "recipe" for it, its just auto selected

[fickle mist]

hello. is it normal to have gotten 40 hours of playtime in 1 day of getting it?

[ivory zinc]

Uh

Yes.

[normal orbit]

40 hours in a 24 hour day is impressive :p

[sterile blade]

Which makes for an interesting possibility where sushi manifolds can compete with balancers in warmup time

[fickle mist]

how do trains work?

[ivory zinc]

Choo choo mo-

Yea they drive on power

[reef basin]

no. If recipe needs coke, it needs coke. If it needs coal, it needs coal

[hybrid nymph]

I know a lot about computers. If you have any questions, feel free to ask

[sterile blade]

#off-topic-tech exists, BTW~

[timber plover]

Yes, but it's much much less effort, because you don't need to package and unpackage everything.

Like why would you want to go through the trouble of packaging and unpackaging everything when it's not needed

Also in their case, they're using ~130 packagers...you could remove all of those..aka 130 less machines and not having to package/unpackage everything....Like why would you not do that lol

And 40 blenders instead of 66 refineries

I really don't see the downside

[hybrid nymph]

I love refineries ❤️

They're my favorite machine in the game 😀

[storm crow]

yo guys what does "1 of your power storage supplies is draining"? im kinda concerned

[hybrid nymph]

It means that your grid consumption is exceeding your production and that your power storage is currently being used

Once all of your power storage is empty then your entire grid goes out

[normal orbit]

and once its empty, boom fuse blown

[storm crow]

UH

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah not good

[storm crow]

heh i fixed it

[elfin idol]

YES FINALLY I GOT CAST SCREW

[hybrid nymph]

Good job! 👍

One of the most useful recipes in the game

It allows you to make screws directly out of iron ingots

[elfin idol]

bro but now my convoluted factory is like way bigger than it needs to be

and it took so long to make

[hybrid nymph]

Tends to do that for inefficient factories

I had to rip out my entire production for reinforced iron plates, smart plating, rotors, and caterium wire

[elfin idol]

dang

[hybrid nymph]

And I rebuilt it, better, faster, stronger

[elfin idol]

tbh i might wait until i get tier 3-4 conveyors to rebuild

as like it would also make it smaller with those

[hybrid nymph]

We are THE MEN OF 40!

[elfin idol]

sure i might save some power grid but im about to make a 2000MW coal plant anyway

[normal orbit]

if you want smaller factories, moving away from screws would be the option :p

[hybrid nymph]

I'll do you one better, I have 120 coal generators

[elfin idol]

look... some of us are on phase 2

and havent yet set up any steel production

[hybrid nymph]

I'm currently generating 9,000 megawatts from coal alone

[elfin idol]

😭

[hybrid nymph]

I wanted a stable power source

[jagged nymph]

im going insane figuring out where my grid is fluctuating

its only fluctuating by like 50mw but istg ive checked every machine

[elfin idol]

yeah i like that coal is stable, i assume later power options are less so ><

[hybrid nymph]

Oh and by the way, it's absolutely never worth overclocking coal generators unless you're using compacted coal

[normal orbit]

using thermal gen?

[elfin idol]

which is sad because i am a player that loves making my graphs flat

[jagged nymph]

no later power options are stable too if you set it up properly

[elfin idol]

oh nice

[timber plover]

nuclear is complex, but fuel power is super easy

[elfin idol]

ill make them flat

[timber plover]

one fuel generator gives 250MW so they're actually really good

[elfin idol]

its what i do best

[normal orbit]

if you want a stable graph then not using thermal power would be the choice, the other power gens are fine and stable

[hybrid nymph]

Fuel generators can be somewhat unstable as they constantly need fuel to operate, and you have to run an entire factory to make the fuel / turbo fuel to make them go, however with using a coal generator, all you have to do is place down one miner and two fully overclocked water extractors and then you can set up 13 generators

[elfin idol]

yeah

[normal orbit]

fuel gens are only unstable if you've made it wrong

[elfin idol]

my last coal setup before i accidentally deleted my save i used 1 water extractor per 3 coal gens

with a small overclock on the water extractor

[timber plover]

Yeah but coal generators only give 75MW they're very quickly obsolete..

[elfin idol]

but i imagine you save power shards by using 2 per 13

[jagged nymph]

or you can jsut do 3:8 ratio

[elfin idol]

yeah

tbh i might just be weird and make it non overclocked

i also have a thing where i only like overclocking my miners

[normal orbit]

3:8 would be no overclocks

[elfin idol]

i need mk3 belt really before i make my coal setup

[hybrid nymph]

I know, but coal is super cheap and reliable, and easy to setup

[sterile blade]

The "Packager route" uses a bit less power. Something incredible ~20% less power or something

[short fiber]

I've gotten my first bit of plastic and rubber manufactured!

[sterile blade]

*refined

[hybrid nymph]

and you can easily setup like 40 generators from 1 pure node

[jagged nymph]

i usually do the same thing (except for foundries, i overclock those to 60)

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome, happy to hear, great job!

[elfin idol]

fair theyre awkward

its 45 of each usually right

[timber plover]

😂 😱 "Oh no! My power production uses a little bit more power, I really wish I was about to make hundreds of thousands of MWs of power" xd

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[hybrid nymph]

Same here, I always set the foundries making iron at 60 steel per minute

[short fiber]

160 rubber and 160 plastic (plus 720 patroliam coke being sinked until I get packaging stuff for fuel)

[hybrid nymph]

don't do petroleum coke, make the heavy oil resedue into either fuel or smokeless powder

it's more bang for your buck

[short fiber]

I forgot about smokeless powder

[hybrid nymph]

from 1 pure node making rubber/plastic, you can generate enough heavy oil resedue to fuel 4 fully overclcoked fuel gens

[short fiber]

I was too focused getting the whole think up lol

[gloomy tusk]

is caterium used for more then quickwire?

or just quickwire

[hybrid nymph]

nope

just quickwire, and you need A LOT of it

[sterile blade]

They just made their first batch of Plubber, give them some time xD

[normal orbit]

you can use it to make ficsite in phase 5

[hybrid nymph]

super imporant in the production of computers

quickwire is critical in the recipe of circuit boards (Graphics cards), which are used for adapative control units and computers

[sterile blade]

Not without alt recipes or late game recipes~

[gloomy tusk]

what else is it used for

[timber plover]

Well technically you can also use it to make normal wire, through alt recipes. And eventually you can turn caterium into ficsite ingots, but that's really late game

[normal orbit]

fused wire

or just caterium wire

[gloomy tusk]

im past ficsite

[short fiber]

Diluted packaged fuel, my love

[timber plover]

Well then those are your only uses, quickwire, wire and ficsite ingots

[gloomy tusk]

what do i use ficsit for so far ive only seen it used in unlocking things

[hybrid nymph]

no idea, never made it to tier 9? 🤔

[short fiber]

480 packaged fuel per minute is good right?

[jagged nymph]

depends on what you need it for

[timber plover]

Ficsite ingots are only for trigons and trigons can make: Biochemical Sculptor, Neural Quantum Processors and Ficsionium Fuel rods

[sterile blade]

I'd say that MK6 belts is an important point, for starters xD

[short fiber]

I think I'll just use it for jetpack fuel until I unlock the fuel burners

[jagged nymph]

then 480 is way too much for now lol

[gloomy tusk]

YOU USE IT FOR MK 6 BELTS?

[jagged nymph]

yeah and time crystals

[short fiber]

Can u sink fuel?

[timber plover]

You'll only need like 5 per minute for jetpack honestly..and fuel generators use normal fuel, not packaged

[sterile blade]

That's the items requiring trigons, but they're also used for buildings and unlocks

[timber plover]

Yes

[gloomy tusk]

no

[jagged nymph]

yep. The only thintgs you cant sink are waste, sloops, and spheres

[timber plover]

He means packaged fuel (i assume)

[jagged nymph]

i may be forgetting something in that

[short fiber]

Yes

You can't sink dogs

[normal orbit]

and ficsonium and ficsonium fuel rods

[sterile blade]

Slugs, power shards...

[normal orbit]

yea power shards can't be sunk either

[jagged nymph]

oh rlly? you cant sink shards?

slugs makes sense

[sterile blade]

You can sink alien remains though 🤷‍♂️ (iirc)

[short fiber]

Funny thing is you can sink a ticket to get a cybertruck

[jagged nymph]

spoilers

[visual cosmos]

[hybrid nymph]

wait really?

that's how you get a cybertruck?

[jagged nymph]

yep you ||sink a ticket then buy the cybertruck in the shop||

[hybrid nymph]

huh...never knew

[short fiber]

In less than 15 minutes I fully unlocked tier 5!

[hybrid nymph]

yeah tier 5 is super easy

[sterile blade]

That's how ||you unlock it, you still need to buy it||

[visual cosmos]

It cant really drive that mug

Much*

||great for falling off cliffs though||

[elfin idol]

is there like some huge cave system under the rocky desert or something

[visual cosmos]

[normal orbit]

it has square "wheels" and like its creator only goes right :p

[sterile blade]

It's an incredible vehicle, totally not just a meme

[elfin idol]

like i feel like im going crazy every time i scan

cuz u can never find anything

[tribal beacon]

evrething is a messs is that normall

[short fiber]

Which reminds me I gotta finish my steal plant version (I lost count how many times Ive remade it) I needed the teir 4 logistics first to make it more functional

[elfin idol]

^

[tribal beacon]

i neeed hellp

i think lets gaqme it out got to my base

[sterile blade]

There's caves under almost 69% of the map....
What are you pinging for, quartz? ^^

[elfin idol]

mayhaps

[fiery pewter]

Yes there is

[elfin idol]

im trying to find the cave entry to like no avail lol

[fiery pewter]

Know where those 4 normal coal nodes are?

That side is open by default

Have to find it

[sterile blade]

Near the lake at the edge with the Northern Forest

[elfin idol]

by the water?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[elfin idol]

i think theres 2normal 2impure

[fiery pewter]

Near the Northern Forest

[elfin idol]

but i assume thats the area

ill check it out

[sterile blade]

Look around over there 😉

[elfin idol]

ty!

[fiery pewter]

That's the other entry, that one's closed by default

[elfin idol]

ah ok ill head north then

[fiery pewter]

Oh and by the way

✨stingers✨

[elfin idol]

is fineeeeeeeeeeeee

i got my gun

well the budget gun

[fiery pewter]

iirc, both of the quartz nodes are pure

[fiery pewter]

Rebar gun?

[elfin idol]

yea

[fiery pewter]

I'd take the basher over that

Because stinger fast

[sterile blade]

The basher lacks the boom of explosive ammo

[fiery pewter]

You need to unlock explosive ammo to get explosive ammo

[elfin idol]

no basher ;/

[fiery pewter]

The Basher oneshots the babies, 2-3 shots the mediums and good luck with the big ones

[sterile blade]

You can find some around~

[fiery pewter]

Damn

[fiery pewter]

Wher

[normal orbit]

to go the lizard doggo cave and pickup the basher there :p

[sterile blade]

Crash sites now include different ammos too ^^
(Since 1.0 iirc)

[fiery pewter]

With added bonus of mucho doggo and nice helmet

[fiery pewter]

Buh

[normal orbit]

and a pair of blade runners

[fiery pewter]

I've never seen that

[fiery pewter]

Those too?

[normal orbit]

mhm

[fiery pewter]

How have I never found those

[sterile blade]

They aren't many anyway, just enough for one to try them out xD

[fiery pewter]

Much ponders over here

Planning

Much things

[sterile blade]

You should do some sushi, it goes well with pondering

[fiery pewter]

What

I don't do sushi

Do not have the belt capacity for that

[sterile blade]

Don't mind me, just casually trying to bring you to the dark side...

[fiery pewter]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[sterile blade]

That's all about planning and pondering 😉

[fiery pewter]

-# getting kinda bullied here irl

[sterile blade]

Why of course!
It's just another tool to move items around on belts~
Though it is a bit more complex than non-sushi ^^

[fiery pewter]

Smart splitter galore

Or even programmable ones

Technically, with smart splitters, you can make a sushi manifold

[sterile blade]

Programmable ones offer little more other than "need less smart splitters for the same job"

[fiery pewter]

No its simple

Mk 6 belts are main item line

Programmable splitter takes the stuff needed in a linr

Still a suhsi belt

Then, smart splitter feeds machines

[normal orbit]

programmable are kind of pointless, since smart splitters do same job in a sushi manifold

[fiery pewter]

Yeah

But smart splitters can only take 2 different items max of a sushi belt

[sterile blade]

You've already understood more about programmable splitters and their use cases than 69% of the player base (people do ve sleeping on them )

[normal orbit]

yes but no, any undefined in the central option, then you just take one item out to the machine per input

[fiery pewter]

Yeag, but then you take the WHOLE sushi belt in the manifold

[normal orbit]

you can't feed like a manufacturers on only one input belt, you still need to split them up

[sterile blade]

The only "big" advantage programmable splitters have is also the niechest one: being able to load-balance more than just one item at a time...

[elfin idol]

i got all the way to the quartz and there wasnt a single stinger

[sterile blade]

Well, now... 😅

[elfin idol]

erm

[fiery pewter]

Using a programmable splitter to only take the stuff you need for that manifold is way more efficient

[elfin idol]

nvm there are 3 on the node but still not bad

[fiery pewter]

Since there aren't any other items wheezing by that you don't need

[fiery pewter]

Huh, I've had lots

I have a feeling that the stinger's spawn is pretty borked

[elfin idol]

yeah idk i have a feeling my save is a bit bugged with spawns or something

[fiery pewter]

Because why are there random baby stingers by a river in the Rocky Desert

[elfin idol]

as sometimes the hatchers dont spawn like the flies

[fiery pewter]

Above the cave system

[fiery pewter]

That's golden ngl

[elfin idol]

yeah it only happens now and then but its nice xD

[normal orbit]

can just crouch and approach hatchers and whack em. no flies :p

[elfin idol]

damnnn

didnt know that

[sterile blade]

And to complete the "how to sushi" convo: one would just need to add some overflow management for each of these manifolds. Ie: a sink or other production line where all the items that "overflow" can go and be handled without clogging the rest of the beltwork (one can merge overflows from multiple floors, but it's important to take care of max throughputs)

[fiery pewter]

Slight incline, making you stand for a split second, making them detect you

[hybrid nymph]

I love this game

[fiery pewter]

I second this

[hybrid nymph]

sorry for the late reply guys, I was talking to my fiance

[elfin idol]

ive not had any issues with enemies so far tbh, im built diff when it comes to combat

being from an fps background xddd

[fiery pewter]

-# lets get all 270k discord users in here to respond to this

[sterile blade]

Clearly you have your priorities swapped. I'm greatly offended you're not apologizing to your GF instead of us
||Sarcasm disclaimer||

[elfin idol]

the gas clouds and radiation have killed me tho

[fiery pewter]

Have you already faced of against the spicy hog?

[hybrid nymph]

oh off topic, but my dumb cat spilled my beer all over my desk, and it got all over my keyboard, mouse, and one of my monitors, and IT SURVIVED!!

[timber plover]

wait till you get to those nuclear hogs that throw stones and you don't have a gun yet 😢

[elfin idol]

yeah

well not a radiated one

i dont think

[hybrid nymph]

my computer LIVES!!

[elfin idol]

but bigger ones yeah i dodge and weave

[fiery pewter]

Those are the Spice ones

[timber plover]

i think u would know cuz they absolutely clap the shit out of you early game xd

[fiery pewter]

And throw rocks

[elfin idol]

the other big ones throw rocks too but very rarely

[fiery pewter]

THE CHOSEN ONE!!!

[sterile blade]

BTW, just to clarify over the memes and jokes:
This is, indeed, possible ^^
(Not simple or recommended: possible)

[fiery pewter]

Only if you are higher or far away

[elfin idol]

ah i see

[timber plover]

the green-ish ones can throw rocks, the normal big hogs can't...and then you have the nuclear ones O_o

[reef basin]

the effort is comparable with blueprints

[fiery pewter]

The nuclear ones are green

[timber plover]

Ye but u also have that middle stage ones, that aren't radiated but throw rocks

[fiery pewter]

Yes

They are gray

[elfin idol]

i didnt bring portably miners or anything to make them

[fiery pewter]

That sucks

[elfin idol]

fml

[fiery pewter]

Do you have rods and plates?

[elfin idol]

its alr we at 600 so far

[elfin idol]

nah

i should but i dumped my inv not long ago to get biomass lol

[timber plover]

Preference then, I'd rather build a smaller factory for the same exact result, but to each their own

[sterile blade]

You have an iron node next to the entrance you got in from, if you feel like it ^^

[elfin idol]

it ok im close to 1k

[fiery pewter]

Always go out with materials to make biomass burners, crafting benches, equipment workshop and mam

[hybrid nymph]

Indeed my computer LIVES!!! That's the power of MSI!!

[elfin idol]

which is enough for the research i want

im animation cancelling the mine as well

[fiery pewter]

The fart rocks are there no?

[elfin idol]

which is something i figured out you can do to save a very small amount of time

[timber plover]

PebbleShroom, I won't spoil, but I think you will really like what you will unlock soon xd

if you're forgetting to bring resources :)

[elfin idol]

interesting

im excited now better not disappoibnt ;/

[fiery pewter]

||the dimensional depot is not in the quartz tree||

[timber plover]

I promise it won't, in my opinion still the very best addition to Satisfactory

[sterile blade]

They are not around the nodes, iirc

[floral trellis]

Would anyone be able to help me set my Base up havent played for a good while and its like its all new again on console

[fiery pewter]

But she has no plates or rods to begin with, thus cannot craft anything

[timber plover]

xd also important

[sterile blade]

Setting your base up is kind of the "tutorial" 😅

[elfin idol]

i hate fart rocks

[fiery pewter]

-# I checked pronouns

[timber plover]

Pebble do you have blade runners yet

[elfin idol]

need to go nobelisk them all out of existence

[normal orbit]

fart rocks can be exploded :p

[fiery pewter]

speed

[elfin idol]

sadly not because quartz

[sterile blade]

Yeah, that's why one can mine an iron node to make some plates and rods to bootstrap stuff ^^

[elfin idol]

but very shortly i shall

[floral trellis]

I mean more of layout and getting everything to run equally

[fiery pewter]

How are you going to craft, without a crafting station?

[timber plover]

Should try to get quick, those will save you sooooo much time for running back and forth

[elfin idol]

i just been slide jumping around with my parachute lol

[fiery pewter]

Try that with bladerunners
Higher speed and jump

[sterile blade]

Now, that's a good point that I'm not sure how I could overlook... 😅

[elfin idol]

and i found you can glitch the parachute on certain inclines to get massive height lol

[timber plover]

You can almost break the sound barrier with blade runners and slide jumping xd

[elfin idol]

by accident

[fiery pewter]

Indeed

[normal orbit]

can also run along a belt for more speed when slide jumping :p

[fiery pewter]

±1300kph?

[fiery pewter]

But early game belts are slow

[timber plover]

Feels like it at least xd

[fiery pewter]

I think mk1 and mk2 belts would only slow you down

[normal orbit]

yea, but still add a speed multiplier

[fiery pewter]

Fair

[normal orbit]

any belt will add speed when you run on it

assuming you run in same direction

[sterile blade]

A small piece of belt before a hypertube entrance works as a decent boost for 0 power

[fiery pewter]

True

[elfin idol]

i need sam too

[fiery pewter]

Remember when there was belt launcher and not hypertube cannon

[elfin idol]

havent come across that stuff boo

[fiery pewter]

Same cave iirc

[timber plover]

Sam will give you what I was hyping you up about, so yes, do it :D

You might also need some....purple...balls........

[ivory zinc]

Omg i need so much caterium

[elfin idol]

ok im going deeper 😂

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I remember dying while failing to swap the blade-runner with a jetpack after launching myself off some belts

[fiery pewter]

Wait lemme check 4u

[ivory zinc]

Just why

[sterile blade]

Because you made big plans? ^^
Alt recipes can help a lot!

[fiery pewter]

Alr I checked

[elfin idol]

YESSS SAM

[ivory zinc]

Dnt have caterium alt recipes

[fiery pewter]

Should be around the tree

[elfin idol]

bro it was right in front of me lol

[fiery pewter]

Lmao

[elfin idol]

i thought it was quartz

[fiery pewter]

1 equipment slot pain

[ivory zinc]

I need like 400+ caterium wire

[dense violet]

that's not a lot. Find some alts

[fiery pewter]

It takes bit more than that tho

[fiery pewter]

That's like 2 constructors

[ivory zinc]

For me it is

[ivory zinc]

More than 5

[fiery pewter]

Huh

[dense violet]

iirc the only thing you HAVE to have caterium for in the game is ai limiters

[fiery pewter]

Still not a lot

[elfin idol]

er so how much sam would you recommend getting...?

[timber plover]

just some lunch boxes and pretty basic resources

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[elfin idol]

yes

[sterile blade]

Dint worry, that's not even one full inventory slot of Quickwire

[dense violet]

zero. Unless you're making tier9 stuff

[elfin idol]

but research

[fiery pewter]

Dimensinal depot

[timber plover]

Setup a biomass burner with fuel and put a constructor making the reanimted sam

[dense violet]

overhyped

[timber plover]

into a big big bin

[elfin idol]

i got 0 resources to make anything ;/

[fiery pewter]

True, but useful

[elfin idol]

but i shall do that eventually if it good

[reef basin]

size-wise it's not that different, blenders are huge

[timber plover]

Well, if you don't have the depot yet

[sterile blade]

True how?

[fiery pewter]

Not really

[ivory zinc]

I need to make ai limiters and high speed connectors rn

[fiery pewter]

The dimensional depot is overhyped

[normal orbit]

blenders have like same footprint as two refineries

[dense violet]

no, just overhyped. It's a semi creative mode mechanic that negates needing a good transport system

[timber plover]

66 refineries and 130 packagers is bigger than 40 blenders? Since when?

[dense violet]

you can cut out HSC pretty easily and reduce the caterium with Plastic Ai Limiters

[sterile blade]

How?

[fiery pewter]

You already got your explanation

[fiery pewter]

Right here

[ivory zinc]

As i said, no alt recipes. Im phase 3

[elfin idol]

is the animation cancel for mining well known? or am i just weird for finding it lol

[ivory zinc]

[sterile blade]

Isn't that being too "OP" rather than having too much hype?

[ivory zinc]

Wdym

[fiery pewter]

If I knew it, I wouldn't bother

[timber plover]

Imo the dimensional depot is the best feature in Satisfactory, purely for the fact that I hate having to go all the way back to the other side of the map...just to get some basic resources..like come on

[elfin idol]

so obvs you mine in like batches of 3 hits

[dense violet]

get some, it's very easy

[elfin idol]

and then there is a delay before the next bunch of 3

[fiery pewter]

True, but it was overhyped as being very good

[ivory zinc]

Its probably known, just useless

[dense violet]

you can get alt recipes at tier 1

[fiery pewter]

There are tons of logistics options

[elfin idol]

you can left click + mine again and then immediately start the next bunch of 3 without the delay pretty much

[short fiber]

I think the best part about this game is doing the math before hand, it's so comforting

[elfin idol]

as soon as the number goes up on the left

[reef basin]

well you put the packagers above/below in the blueprint

I'm not saing they are smaller, I'm saying the difference isn't that big

[sterile blade]

I think the features it has justify the hype...
Why wouldn't one be excited about that?

[elfin idol]

which saves maybe like 8-10% time or something stupid xd

[fiery pewter]

As Cobalt said, it negates logistic networks that supply the player

[ivory zinc]

Duh but i already went exoloring for 3 hours before. Not really too hyped for it rn

[timber plover]

2 refineries are practically the same size as a blender...so those cancel out..but then you still need 130 packagers...so yes the difference is pretty big lol

[fiery pewter]

As soon as I unlock trains, I always have a project train that just supplies whatever I neef

And before that point

Well running around is just part of the game

[elfin idol]

tbf its actually maybe like 15-20% its not too bad

[reef basin]

you put them above/below

[normal orbit]

dimensional depots fixed the biggest problem in the game imo.

[sterile blade]

But that's all the reason for the hype! 😭

[fiery pewter]

As a logistics enjoyer, no

[timber plover]

Vertically or not, it takes up space. If I build 130 packagers on top of each other to the height limit does it mean it only took up one foundation?

[green fiber]

Simple solution.
Enjoy logistics ? Dont use depot

[fiery pewter]

Would it be possible to have (with the packaged diluted fuel recipe) water packaging and fuel unpackaging in the same BP, with the refineries?

[short fiber]

Do you use the short converyer lift trick?

[sterile blade]

I don't mean to focus on semantics, but "overhyped" just sounds wrong in this context

[green fiber]

Besides, the depot has limits.

Large factories need you to bring in extra materials anyway

[fiery pewter]

Baby conveyor :3

[green fiber]

Ideally with a build train or something

[short fiber]

Do trains take fuel or power?

[normal orbit]

sure you can do that

[elfin idol]

im hoping 600sam is enough

[normal orbit]

power

[reef basin]

most people use "space" as 2d metric, not 3d

[timber plover]

Probably, but even then, I would prefer the aesthetic of one blender over 2 refineries and like 4 packagers cramped into one blueprint...

[fiery pewter]

you do you ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fiery pewter]

Power

[timber plover]

Ofcourse

[fiery pewter]

Which uses fuel

[elfin idol]

might grab a load of shrooms to actually research fabrics while im here

[sterile blade]

It's possible even with MK1 blueprints

[timber plover]

Power, they're also very useful to get power around your world without needing to span power towers over the entire map

[fiery pewter]

But I use power towers because

Aesthetics

[short fiber]

That's awsome! Thank you for telling me

Imma sleep now, no more math till after work

[sterile blade]

I use the power towers for zipline and to transmit power for the "good grid". The railway handles the "bad grid" (where all vehicles are)

[timber plover]

I mean I use them too, I'm not gonna run a train track just to get power...but If I'm building somewhere far off grid just to pick up some resources, I won't bother with the power towers

[fiery pewter]

What was this question for btw

[fiery pewter]

Good idea

I might yoink that

[timber plover]

Ofcourse, the train tracks are always powered, so if you place a train station you can run a power pole out of it and you'll have the same power grid as you have at your other train station :)

And goodnight!!

[sterile blade]

I want the copyright fees!
Annoying to set up, but totally worth the effort when troubleshooting for that sweet max efficiency

[elfin idol]

so i just had an invisible stinger

wtf xD

[fiery pewter]

Erm actually🤓

Train tracks are only powered if they are connected to a train station that is connected to the powergrid

[reef basin]

for sure, that's like the easiest use of DPF

[timber plover]

xd you're right that's why i said "same power grid as you have at your other train station" xd

[fiery pewter]

Because I am making a DPF turbofuel power plant, and I do not want to move
-# 1280 canisters
Around and about

😭

[timber plover]

Look in screenshots, easy solution

[sterile blade]

@fiery pewter BTW, the one time I had to transmit both good and bad grids on power towers, I differentiated them by using towers with platforms for one VS without platforms for the other. Quicker and more obvious than coloring them

[timber plover]

:D

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots is quite big

[timber plover]

scroll up like 2 messages and you'll see my message from a while ago xd

[fiery pewter]

I am not playing until phase 4 without fuel power

I plan to automate everything I can before entering the endgame

[timber plover]

That's why I made smaller power plants..before I unlocked the blenders

[fiery pewter]

Wait gimme a sec

[reef basin]

yeah no, you make small loop, put 20 canister in it, save it as a blueprint and spam it as a sort-of-blender

[timber plover]

450 crude oil into 108,000MW and we are complaining about blenders using a little bit more power? bruh

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message these are my plans

[fiery pewter]

I am not complaining about blenders using more power

I am just not going to go get blenders without good power

[timber plover]

very complex with a lot of decimal numbers

for 35,000MW

[fiery pewter]

The turbofuel line doesn't have much decimals

Which is the priority

[reef basin]

decimals are never an issue anyway

[fiery pewter]

Anyway

I have class now, bye guys

[reef basin]

"32.5789" is same-complexity number as "42" or "60"

you match inputs and outputs and clock machines. Done

[timber plover]

If you say so

[reef basin]

there's no real difference apart from the numbers being visually "nicer"

(and game doesn't count in items/min anyway)

[timber plover]

Wait until you find out that when you reload, that it rounds up your numbers to .xxx

[reef basin]

not when you reload. Clock speed is limited to 4 decimals and any other number is calculated from the clock speed (so irrelevant), and only rounded in UI

[timber plover]

I see

[reef basin]

and yes, some numbers are "impossible" to reach exactly, but unless you're the person who cares about that, you can just round up to nearest 0.0001% and the machine will work just fine (possibly stopping once every few days)

[elfin smelt]

speaking of that, i discovered that you can input mathematical expressions into the clock speed and item target input UI and it calculates nicely

pretty neat

[reef basin]

yeah, though it's quite unclear how that works, I personally would recommend to input pre-calculated clock speed instead

as the formula input rounds at arbitrary points of the calculations, so you may end up with slightly larger or smaller clock speed

[timber plover]

It's just that for power plants, I prefer not to use weird numbers like that.. just for mental sake and also because I've noticed that when you're away from the plant, it works fine...but as soon as it loads in, the power graph will have dips every now and then

So for me, I just don't even bother

[reef basin]

that isn't specific to weird numbers, that can happen with any numbers (and usually means you have an issue somewhere)

(and for plants you round down, not up)

[sterile blade]

The power issues should not depend on wether one uses decimals or not, but wether the input matches consumption exactly (ie: both production lines can be clocked to reach that amount without rounding errors)

[reef basin]

(also, sometimes the "nice" numbers are a lie too)

[timber plover]

I've only ever had that issue when trying to get weird decimal numbers involved. Never had that otherwise

[reef basin]

most likely was a different issue

decimals work just fine in the game

[sterile blade]

They don't work great with meaty calculators like brains, though...
So, it's not uncommon to make mistakes more easily when calculating with them ^^

[elfin idol]

damnnn i see what you mean

this dimensional depot thing seems very useful

like i can use it as a sink but for resources i ac use

[timber plover]

definitely, especially if you don't wanna run around your world cuz u forgot resources xd

[timber plover]

well it has a limit in your inventory, but kind of sure

[elfin idol]

ill probably put cable + plate in there first

[timber plover]

and concrete, very important

[elfin idol]

damn i can only make 1

with all that sam smh

what if i dimensional depot production of the sam flutuators

am i cooking

i think so

[timber plover]

yeah xd

[elfin idol]

ok but can you drag depotted stuff straight to ur inventory to be like moved somewhere else?

or is it only pulled from as a resource for building if that makes sense

[timber plover]

If you open your inventory, there's a seperate tab and you can pull resources from there into your inventory, but they will also be automatically taken from there if you don't have anything in your inventory

[elfin idol]

ah okok

[timber plover]

but you can't get them out anymore other than yourself, no

[elfin idol]

yeah i figured that might be a tad op

[timber plover]

Yeah and it would make trains etc completely obsolete

[elfin idol]

yeah other than like the limit to how many of those orbs you can get it would be very busted

[timber plover]

I think how they implemented is perfect, because it's useful, especially for building..but it's not overpowered

[elfin idol]

im lucky i had a load of steel pipes from crash sites lol otherwise i would have had to wait till after i started making them

[nocturne nebula]

wow, adaptove control units take a good while to craft

crash sites are handy!

[wet fossil]

Is there a limit to light control panels?

I have one set up at the start of my railway controlling streetlights along it, but at a certain point the new streetlights seem to ignore the settings dictated by it, despite still being connected to that electrial grid

#screenshots message seen here

[green fiber]

Lights only render / are active up to a certain distance.

Does getting closer to a light change the color?

Also, fiddling with the panel may update the lights.
Or a save reload for that matter

[wet fossil]

Nope, I'm standing right next to them. I can also see they're on the default settings in their info panel

I'll try a reload

[green fiber]

Then they probably just dont update that often / instantly

[wet fossil]

ah yep, interacting with the light control panel updated them all

ty

[elfin idol]

do i unlock the explorer or do i unlock the priority merger

like is the explorer actually good

[timber plover]

eh its fun to drive around sure

but ive also never used the priority merger...so it doesn't really matter which you choose lol

[elfin idol]

yeah im thinking the priority merger is super niche

[dense violet]

pmerg has no real uses
Vehicles are fine?

[elfin idol]

like i can think of a use case but you can mitigate its use for sure

[dense violet]

if you're exploring though it's easier without a car

[elfin idol]

by just rerouting mergers and splitters

[timber plover]

Yeah that's why I said it's just for fun

[dense violet]

you have to actively design a system to have to have one.
you can generally just use a smart splitter in a different spot.

[elfin idol]

yeah i dont have those yet ;/

[timber plover]

agreed

[elfin idol]

i havent researched caterium yet i assume its that

[timber plover]

yeah

priority splitters are much much more useful

i use those in pretty much every factory

[elfin idol]

yeah i imagine

is it actually worth uploading dna capsules to the sink

like do they even give that many dna points

ill just find out

[timber plover]

Yes, each capsule gives 1000 points

And they're seperate from the other points

Smart tip: Put a constructor with somersloop that makes remains -> protein and then another constructor with somersloop that makes protein -> dna capsule

That way you're turning one remain into 4 dna capsules aka 4000 points.

It's a very very easy way to get a lot of tickets early game

[elfin idol]

hm i havent unlocked a use for somersloops yet

[timber plover]

Well that's the use, it doubles the output of a machine

So 1 remain -> 2 protein, 2 protein -> 4 dna capsules

[elfin idol]

i see

[timber plover]

And constructors only require 1 somersloop so it's easy

They work similar to power shards, that you can just take them out whenever you want

Not like you have to invest them permanently

And the somersloop doesn't get used up when it doubles the output, it's just infinite

[elfin idol]

bomboclart i need circuit boards what the helly

[zenith pecan]

Worse than that, I found the pmerg can actually cause backups when combined with a smart splitter in an attempt at dividing loads in spite of open head room, I ripped the one out I used under my motor factory and shockingly the wire factory feeds sped up to full whack.

[elfin idol]

#screenshots we do be playing the game as intended

[zealous urchin]

shroom

[elfin idol]

yes

BRUV I NEED PLASTIC

thats so boring ;/

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
o never seem to be able to make nonspaghetti pipes

[zenith pecan]

I have about 2000 per minute spare 🤣 , can't route between saves alas.

[timber plover]

@jagged nymph Out of that whole screenshot, the thing that bothers me most is the power lines 😭

[hybrid nymph]

Nice 🙂👍

[timber plover]

Sometimes you decided to make it neat and other times you were like "eh screw it"

[hybrid nymph]

Plastic and rubber are super easy to get

[timber plover]

i heard thats coming in 1.2.....

[hybrid nymph]

I still have 2 untapped normal oil nodes that I haven't used

[elfin idol]

smart splitter unlocked tho yippeeee

[jagged nymph]

my power lines are always so bad 😭

[hybrid nymph]

1.2? Only thing I heard about 1.2 is fluid trucks and new fluid mechanics

[elfin idol]

finally a nice way to sink stuff

[zenith pecan]

Sending overproduction into other peoples saves haha, everyone would be connecting to my power station though, that 1.1tw would quickly die off.

[hybrid nymph]

Try the space elevator awesome sink mod

[jagged nymph]

whats that

[elfin idol]

can i not just use the light switch instead of the power switch

[hybrid nymph]

A mod that turns the space elevator into the awesome sink, and since the space elevator doesn't require power, anything you put into it that isn't a mandatory space elevator part for the project assembly is automatically sinked

[elfin idol]

or did they think about that

[zenith pecan]

Does it periodically set off the space elevator animation?

[timber plover]

New ficsit tech to improve productivity!

[hybrid nymph]

Sadly nope 😕

[timber plover]

And to show you what other pioneers are capable of...so you start doing your best 🙄

[zenith pecan]

Aw, that would have been awesome, constantly exporting products instead of destroying.

[jagged nymph]

yeah cause ficsit doesnt waste

[timber plover]

I heard there's a new gamemode coming where they removed all the fun stuff from the game and if you stand still for more than 5 seconds ADA starts to yell at you and give debuffs/modifiers

[hybrid nymph]

There is a mod that makes the project assembly much harder. It requires you to feed x amount of space elevator parts to the elevator every minute, and if you don't, it erases all of your milestones in the current tiers that you unlocked on your current project assembly

[elfin idol]

that sounds cool actually

[jagged nymph]

what the genuine actual fuck

[timber plover]

Ooo that would definitely be more realistic

[hybrid nymph]

The game is already hard enough, I see no point to this mod

[jagged nymph]

yeah....

[hybrid nymph]

It just makes the game 10 times harder

[jagged nymph]

couldnt you cheese it by storing a ton of parts into a chest and then dumping them in anyway?

[zenith pecan]

Some people want to keep quotas like the high pressure work place, I prefer to take my time and chill though so hard pass for me.

[hybrid nymph]

Same here 👍

[timber plover]

While I would never play with that mod, it does sound interesting for people who are into that and quota's and stuff

Like I get it if somebody would play with it, but personally no thanks xd

[elfin idol]

tbh it sounds more fun to me than the base game

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
why is the game like this 😭 😭

[elfin idol]

but i like suffering

[timber plover]

You say that only because you're at like phase 2 of the space elevator...trust me you won't say the same later on xd

[elfin idol]

the more suffering the better

[zenith pecan]

I know that, worse is numbers don't always add up so to avoid it, you have to overproduce and overflow to sinks in some cases.

[normal orbit]

you will have fun with trying to straighten out that graph when you get particle accelerators, converters and quantum encoders :)

[elfin idol]

there can never be too much suffering

[jagged nymph]

everything is overflowing into sinks

[zenith pecan]

Hellraiser huh 😛

[zenith pecan]

Do you have a geotherm somewhere?

[elfin idol]

they should have made this game a souls like

on top of the base game

[jagged nymph]

no

[elfin idol]

😂

[jagged nymph]

theres literally one machine somewhere idling every once in a while

[zenith pecan]

Could be a stuttering belt somewhere mid production causing a machine to flicker idle, I had to redesign my wire factories entire output stream because of that.

[elfin idol]

combine satisfactory + with that rate per minute elevator mod and some soulslike mod that probably doesnt exist

[normal orbit]

look for the yellow light :p

[elfin idol]

sounds joyous

[timber plover]

I think this too, probably a miner that is full and turns off every now and then

[zenith pecan]

That can definitely do it if you're not maxing it, you'd have to put an overflow belt on it or try to take up any slack.

[jagged nymph]

first ill figure out which factory it is by disconenecting them from power one by one then ill narrow it down from there

[elfin idol]

does the zipline work vertically?

[jagged nymph]

yes

[elfin idol]

like directly vertical

oh nice handy for exploration for now then

[toxic lichen]

gravity will certainly work there

[hybrid nymph]

I ❤️ mods!

[elfin idol]

#screenshots man all this mess only to now have cast screws

[timber plover]

You'll only go vertical if you have the speed pretty sure, if you try to just go on it, you'll go down..like gravity obviously

[normal orbit]

and thats why many of us aim to remove screws :p

[jagged nymph]

ive pretty much anrrowed it down to one section

[hybrid nymph]

What tier are you on?

[jagged nymph]

just completed phase 2

[hybrid nymph]

Okay so tier 3 & 4

[jagged nymph]

no tier 5 and 6

[elfin idol]

remove screws?

[hybrid nymph]

Ahh 😮

[jagged nymph]

i finished phase 2

[elfin idol]

like entirely?

[timber plover]

There's alt recipes for everything that removes the need for screws entirely. I genuinely don't think I've used screws for a proper factory (apart from early game) for more than 500 hours of playtime

[elfin idol]

damn

[normal orbit]

yes, theres alt recipes to completly not need them at all

[elfin idol]

like stitched plates

[zenith pecan]

I only remove screws where it makes sense, I'll use them if the numbers work and large scale.

[hybrid nymph]

3000 MW is a little low for your tier, you might want to get that up to 5000 to be safe

[elfin idol]

and copper rotors

[normal orbit]

copper rotors use screws

[elfin idol]

ah nvm then

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm 🤔

[normal orbit]

steeled rotors dont

[hybrid nymph]

Copper rotors?

Oh the alt recipe

[elfin idol]

yuh

[timber plover]

For example what I did:

Factory that produces Rotors, Stators and Motors.. Since you can use Steel Rotor and then they use the same materials as Stators...and Motors are just Stator + Rotor

Steel Rotor = Steel Pipe + Wire

[jagged nymph]

wait i found it

why the fuck is it idling

it has materials and its not backed up

FUCK ITS THE SCREWS

[normal orbit]

yah, and since rotors and stators use same materials and they're used same amount in motors. the math is super easy. rotor+stator=motor

[timber plover]

xddddddddddd perfect example for the perfect conversation

[timber plover]

yeah exactly

[jagged nymph]

wait why is it the screws tho

[zenith pecan]

System screwed up eh 🙂

[reef basin]

a kinda pointless effort to remove item from production line instead of making use of it 😛

[jagged nymph]

the machines making the screws are running fine

and the belt moving the screws is fine

and the whole think is running finr ever since i just turned it off and back on 😭

[elfin idol]

yeah sounds like less suffering which im not here for

[normal orbit]

at a guess, you're making screws at the rate of belt capacity?

[jagged nymph]

nope, 100/m on a mk2

[zenith pecan]

My quartz factory uses so many screws, because the numbers lined up perfectly, removing screws there would stuff up the entire line and cause yellow lights everywhere.

[jagged nymph]

but i turned it off and back on and now its fine 🤷‍♀️

[reef basin]

screws are only suffering if you make it yourself. In all other cases screws are like any other item - just fine

[elfin idol]

agreed

[zenith pecan]

Make screws next to where they're used, not in their own factory and try to ship them.

[normal orbit]

there is an issue which happen with recipes which produce a lot of items in batches where if you are at or near belt max capacity they can still stall some cause of the sheer volume of items being output in batches slowly making the output on the machines max out.

[timber plover]

Well the main problem is that the recipes that use screws generally need A LOT of them...So you'll end up having to make thousands of screws per minute for a bigger factory...Which your belts can't handle...so you need to run more and more belts everywhere...

While you could just eliminate the need for screws entirely

[normal orbit]

saw that when doing instant scrap and grouping them up so two blenders each outputting 600/min onto a mk6 belt still wouldnt work 100% cuz it made like 60 scrap at a time

[reef basin]

or just make screws in front of the machine and never run into belt capacity issues, and not have to run any long belts

[elfin idol]

or like just make small screw factories near where there needed no?

thats probably what ill do

[timber plover]

You can play as you wish ofcourse, personally I find that a lot of the alt recipes are much better than the standard ones. Including those that remove screws

[reef basin]

they may be better for your cause, but are never "always better" 🙂

[timber plover]

And also another point, if you're going to use "Steel Screws" to make a bunch of screws...you're already using steel...so if you go back to the steel rotor recipe, you might as well just use the steel for the rotors directly...rather than making screws and then rotors

[reef basin]

yeah but that costs way more steel

[timber plover]

Sure, but stators use the same materials so just make stators and motors at the same place

Look #screenshots

Personally I know which one I would choose

[reef basin]

I'm aware, but you can make them at the same place even if they don't use same materials

[reef basin]

use steamed sheets. Cuts copper costs by a lot
also steel rods instead of steel screws -> cuts steel costs

[timber plover]

#screenshots that is the factory I made early game for stators/rotors/motors

Could definitely cut costs, but the numbers are so small, didn't think it was neccessary

[bold heron]

When do u expect 1.2 on experimental ?

[tall lantern]

some time in the next few months

or alternatively: whatever date they announce when they do the announcement they said they're gonna do

[timber plover]

well they said that a video announcing the release date should go up in like a week or so...so i would bet it's probably within now and two months

[normal orbit]

didnt mikael say its coming to experimental in march in the latest vid

i got too excited thinking about the pipe t-junctions to pay attention to the rest if i'm honest :p

[timber plover]

im pretty sure that he said he didn't want to give a release window yet...and that it'll be announced in the vid. but i could've forgotten

I do know that totalxclipse speculated it'll be released on March 17th, but he's just guessing obviously

[jagged nymph]

ooh a pipe t junction ?

[normal orbit]

ye

[bold heron]

T junction is nice but what about a 5 o 6 way junction or other odd shapes.
Like dynamic pipe connection.

[night sail]

For what distance would using drones be optimal and upto how much throughput should it be used ?

[reef basin]

"optimal" depends purely on your preferences

[void gorge]

Yupyup whatever doesn't blow your PC up

[void gorge]

And it's this Friday

(video, not EXP)

[abstract heron]

hiya mikael