satisfactory

[hybrid nymph]

There is a blueprint mod by Aquila that greatly increases the size of the build box

I can't remember what it's called but if you go on the mod manager and look up the mods from Aquila you'll find it

[grim carbon]

Yes, i got them from the awesome shop

[hybrid nymph]

The awesome shop has a lot of things

It cost about 200 tickets to unlock All of the building parts

It is well worth it

[feral jay]

I would argue it's essential

[hybrid nymph]

I would agree as well

I use so many of those building parts constantly from the awesome shop. They're very useful

[normal orbit]

The light control panel is there too. On same page

[pearl owl]

got fuel power off the ground :)

setup is 4 refineries and 3 plants (each plant overclocked as much as i can)

[grim carbon]

i thought that the lighting would have it's own control panel

guess i was wrong

[feral jay]

THere is, in fact, a lighting control panel

[stone quiver]

Once somewhere helped me with a 4 gen/pipe blueprint and now printing plants is just limited by setting up my sulfur and coal lines. The fuel gens I can print 24 at a time easy peasy

[feral jay]

Wheee, underwater hypertubes

[sudden creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1474935332238528544/image.png?ex=699ba812&is=699a5692&hm=6545c692e5333ff8e2ceefd2f35608f176f7859f8afa6b8717c29dca3e5ee2ec& hey im abt to explore this cave to harvest its quarts any advice?

[feral jay]

You need guns... lots of guns

[sudden creek]

how many cats

and which ones

oh god its blocked of i alrzady know this is gonna suck

[sudden creek]

gng plz i need to know

[grim carbon]

is it possible to move blueprints once i've made them?

[sudden creek]

yep

click edit on the bottom of the blueprint tab

[grim carbon]

i've tried dragging them between categories

[sudden creek]

then drag them

drag them to the acual spot u want them in

[grim carbon]

it won't let me

[sudden creek]

wdym

[grim carbon]

i have made 2 blueprints

and just made a simple category

[ornate saffron]

so its fruttrating. But eqach catagory needs a sub catagory. Whene there is nothing in the sub catagory its a thin line at the top. hover it and itll highl,light

[grim carbon]

tried moving one of them to the new category

it keeps telling me it's empty, which i know

the 2 are in the undefined category

success!!!

[spare prism]

Watch out for the spiders

[sudden creek]

at least they don't jump

[hybrid nymph]

Any of you guys using mods?

[sudden creek]

nope

im against mods since i ruined the last one with cheating

personal code

[hybrid nymph]

If you guys want a simple mod pack that keeps the vanilla feel of the games I can send you my mod list

[spare prism]

Not rn but after I complete game I'm gunna look at it

[hybrid nymph]

I hate to break it to you but the word gunna is not a word

It's going to

[spare prism]

It is a word so

[hybrid nymph]

It may be a word but it's improper English, not trying to be a grammar Nazi I'm just trying to help you out and make you sound more intelligent

[spare prism]

I don't care

[hybrid nymph]

Just looking out for you is all

[spare prism]

Don't care I'm gunna use the words I like thank you

[hybrid nymph]

What's the server 115?

[spare prism]

A zombie server

[hybrid nymph]

Like killing floor? Or something?

[spare prism]

Call of duty

[hybrid nymph]

Oh okay, never played it but nice

I'm just not a big fan of competitive multiplayer first person shooter games

Halo, destiny, call of duty, paladins, overwatch, TF2, just not a fan

They just never interested in me

What tier are you on?

[hybrid nymph]

Are you using mods?

[sudden creek]

heres ur answer

[hybrid nymph]

Oh you corrupted your save file with them?

[sudden creek]

nope

made factories so bad i would need to fully start over

and spawned in shit i needed

[hybrid nymph]

I only use basic little quality of life mods

I only have 15 mods installed

Just simple ones like a bigger inventory, fuel chainsaw, making sloops and Mercer spheres available in the awesome shop, and glass fluid tanks

[oak nymph]

I'm almost to the golden nut I'm like 170coupons short

[hybrid nymph]

I am using mods to get there

I already got 500 coupons legit, that's good enough

[stone quiver]

Nut is easy if you don't burn 100s of tickets on materials

[hybrid nymph]

I'm also using the mods to upgrade the speed of my manufacturers

And miners

And constructors and assemblers

[sudden creek]

so u got no patience?

[stone quiver]

Just mod in the coupons

[hybrid nymph]

It's not busted, it's a separate MAM tree and it costs space elevator parts

Correct I have no patience

I should not have to use sloops in a manufacturer to make a reasonable amount of items, or have to setup 5-10 manufacturers making the same item

[sudden creek]

yo do know i have been working since 6 pm on a factory and its currently 3 am nd im still working

[hybrid nymph]

I worked on mine last night from 10PM-6AM

[sudden creek]

so 8 hours?

[hybrid nymph]

Yuppers

[sudden creek]

and did u complete it?

[hybrid nymph]

And I made almost no progress

I kind of did

[sudden creek]

im almost done

8 floors to wire up

[hybrid nymph]

I fixed my trains, I setup my manufacturers, I moved the rotor factory

And I built onto the main factory building

[sudden creek]

i fully deconstruxted a 2 story concrete factory housing a million concrete (1.124.000)

[hybrid nymph]

Oh And I improved my Sam factory

[sudden creek]

took me a hour to drain it

[hybrid nymph]

Why though?

[sudden creek]

cuz

[stone quiver]

I just set up phase 4/5 part factories in novel recipe combinations, sloop it, sink it, make more power repeat

[sudden creek]

if im breaking down a factory to rebuild it i need to move teh storage

btw check this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1474950267957940365/image.png?ex=699bb5fb&is=699a647b&hm=8175f60e03b20ed795d8032925a7d318608950c3299627c69dec42db2300b65c&

[jagged nymph]

those are rookie numbers

[stone quiver]

You don't need to do this for anything though. Or move huge amounts of materials etc

[oak nymph]

I burned like300

[stone quiver]

On what materials , I'm curious ? Bc you end up needing to automate stuff anyway

[oak nymph]

On packed liquid biofuel and a lot of materials early game because I didn't have dimensional depot and didnt what to run back to my base
And a lot of MAM stuff I just wanted the trophy to complete every MAM tree

[oak nymph]

I also bought the car for the trophy. I didn't buy any cosmetics haha

[real oar]

Guys I am so stupid. For some reason I built a factory that makes 240 Steal Beams per minute. I am on Tier 6 and only need them for storage in my dimensional depot. Wasted so many nodes and like at least 6 hours on it...

[oak nymph]

How did you manage with only mk2 miner

And steel beams are almost useless. Steel pipe are used way more often

[hybrid nymph]

The only thing I use steel beams for is: windows, industrial storage units, and encased industrial beams for crafting heavy modular frames

[real oar]

I used many nodes and alternative recepies (Solid Steel Ingot, Basic Iron Ingot, Wet Concrete)

[hybrid nymph]

Steel pipes are so much more useful

[real oar]

Well the Steel Pipes Factory is next. It will be a direct copy of my other steel pipe factory that I use for frames

[ornate saffron]

i like the frame styls giving you a industrial feel. All of them require steel beams

[hybrid nymph]

Since I installed mods now I might just tell my factory to produce 2 industrial storage units full of steel beams then call it done and never produce them again

Steel beams are such a hassle to make

[willow pond]

imagine if they made us use extruders and welders

[cold berry]

I got the copper, silica, steel and basic iron done (I restarted and did iron last)

Oh my God

Took all day

[ornate saffron]

feels good though

[willow pond]

i took a week migrating from landing zone 1 to 3

but that was also setting up a "formal base" to operate from

[real oar]

Today I found a random old crate with 3 mercer spheres inside

[sudden creek]

peak

[elfin idol]

@sudden creek #screenshots rookie numbers ive been on for 15 hours now

the servers kicked me off at midnight though so the count reset ;/

[sudden creek]

i was playing helldivers before that

• this is a shared world and needed aproval from my nuddy

[willow pond]

i'm currently testing game stability by manually clearing all the vegetation, nodules, and explodey rocks

[sudden creek]

if u redo something that will influence the game teh other needs to agree

[willow pond]

i want the largest save file in game history 🤣

[hybrid nymph]

What 25mb lol

[ornate saffron]

goodluck you got some competition here in this discord lol

[elfin idol]

also a question, i assume conveyor belts have a delay kinda, like ok in manifolds, if you have a long enough length, even if they are IN THEORY 100% efficient, if you dont have conveyor belts that are way overkill for the actual numbers you will end up with power cycling regardless?

basically im talking about the delay that item moves away from a splitter, the splitter cant output the next item immediately and this effect stacks up

[pearl owl]

got two fuel power plants making 3,875 total (i have to add one more generator), have two normal oil nodes yet to build with. anything else i should build or change about my plants? (if ur having a conversation u can ignore this if u want)

[elfin idol]

so if you are aiming to have completely stable power usage in a factory, you (i assume) basically have to have sinks set up with smart splitters and then also overdo production for certain manifolds to account for that fact

[sudden creek]

mmines 3.586 kb

[elfin idol]

but correct me if im wrong

(basically if you have a single conveyor that is ever not actually moving, then ur screwed eventually cuz of the delay in reactivation)

[pallid ridge]

when building megafactory, do u plan a shared recipe or not? for example, heavy modular frame being used by both adapter control unit and fused modular frame. do u account for single item or both?

[jagged nymph]

well thats up to personal choice

[feral jay]

You need enough heavy frames and the build chain is complex enough that I generally just build one giant heavy frames factory

[pallid ridge]

which one is easier to manage?

[sudden creek]

depends if you can make enough on site and it doesnt go into power plants

[pallid ridge]

i plan on having 25 modular frame per minute, but not too sure should i merge it into 1 production chain or separate them

[peak wasp]

separate cause they're necessary in other builds

[jagged nymph]

for me i make a seperate factory for each item

bring in all the raw materials

except for like oil products

[pallid ridge]

my problem is now that i have limitation on belt since i only have tier 4 belt and if i want to go past 21 item, then i would need 2 belt for raw material

[jagged nymph]

whats wrong with 2 belts

[sudden creek]

gng

[pallid ridge]

nothing, just kinda add into complexity i guess

[sudden creek]

im only fucking halfway with the floors

why is 160 assemblers so much

[pallid ridge]

what about 30 per minutes? should it be sufficient for adaptive control unit and 15 fused modular frame?

[jagged nymph]

please tell me youre using blueprints

[sudden creek]

ofc

[jagged nymph]

ok good

[sudden creek]

im not stupid

[pearl owl]

got two fuel power plants making 4k total, have two normal oil nodes yet to build with. any other ways to get power up without destroying all this? (current capcity ~11k)

[feral jay]

Put a 2x2 load balancer on each end of a long belt, and you've effectively turned those two belts into a single logical belt

[pallid ridge]

dang, 120 stitched iron plate need 800 wire, i'm 20 wire short on conveyor capacity

[sudden creek]

does anyone know how auto connect works

its being difficult

[pallid ridge]

i only manage to use it on train

[feral jay]

Takes a while to figure out the... "quirks"

[stone quiver]

There is zero delay. Conveyor and splitter throughput is infinite.

[sudden creek]

yea well those quirk take me a extra 3 minutes per side

[stone quiver]

Manifold having uptime cycling is related to your conveyor speed your miner output and your machine demand

[pallid ridge]

10 adaptive control unit should bring me to phase 5 fast enough right?

[elfin idol]

sure i get that, but on a conveyor itself, ideally right if its sat there completely full, as soon as it starts moving ideally the conveyor connected to it via a splitter/merger would also move at exactly the same time, but thats not possible because of the nature of conveyor belts

[feral jay]

I still don't know the difference between Blueprint auto-connect and Default auto-connect, but I can tell you that you click once when things are connected where you want, and then you can move shit around and keep those connections, and then you click a second time to plop the blueprint

[pallid ridge]

you should try using train rail, if both ends meet, it'll auto connect

default wil not auto connect iirc

[stone quiver]

You would need supercomputers as well with ACUs, I don't think they're used besides the assembly director (used as 4 deliverables and part in phase 5)

[elfin idol]

a splitter cant immediately transfer items as soon as one conveyor starts moving to the next, because like item spacing in a sense lol

not just splitters but anything attached to a belt

[feral jay]

No, there's a "Default" and also a "Deafult (Auto-connect)"

[elfin idol]

that has an output that isnt just directly another belt

[stone quiver]

Put a part counter if you're concerned.

You'll find out the truth.

[pallid ridge]

blueprint will snap into another blueprint iirc

[elfin idol]

a part counter wont tell me the issue lol

[pallid ridge]

default is just like normal build, but blueprint will snap and not move

[feral jay]

Yes but I don't know the difference between "Blueprint (Auto-connect)" and "Default (Auto-connect)", they just both auto connect to me

[pallid ridge]

the snapping is different

[stone quiver]

Well you're asking what happens when a saturated conveyor moves? It moves at exactly the rate of demand in front of it. It's not like... an accordion or slinky

[elfin idol]

no

im saying theres a delay between demand and supply

demand goes up, supply doesnt IMMEDIATELY go up

[feral jay]

For splitters, yes, there's a lag between input and output, they have an internal buffer.

[stone quiver]

Demand consumption is instant, supply is limited by the conveyor

A machine will use whatever the recipe calls for instantly then refill at the conveyor rate

[elfin idol]

this is what i was asking about yeah

and confirms my assumption

[feral jay]

Yes, machine consumption is quantized. If it's 60/min, that's not necessarily equal to 1/sec

[elfin idol]

yeah

quantized is a good way of putting it

[feral jay]

It really starts to show up with liquids

[stone quiver]

I do not believe splitters have this, pretty sure that's a small piece of internal slow conveyor or a server issue

I can feed 1000/min and split and both will read 500

[elfin idol]

again thats not the point xd

it only really becomes obvious if you have a system with a large number of manifolds

and its not about the count its about the small delay causing backclogging

[stone quiver]

I have systems with upwards of 30+ in a row . The "perceived" delay is a machine feeding from the side before the main column can move. My machine throughput does not change when I increase or decrease this or turn machines on or off 🤷‍♂️

[feral jay]

For example, a copper powder contructor cosumes 300/min copper ingots. But that's not equal to 5 ingots/sec. It's exactly 30 ingots, exactly every five seconds.

[stone quiver]

Yes like I said, demand is discrete, supply is continuous (to a point)

[elfin idol]

i mean yeah my only solution would be to have sinks

and overdo the input

[stone quiver]

Im not sure how you would "overdo" the input. A machine input is based on conveyor speed.

[feral jay]

As in supply more than the machines need, and sink the rest

[elfin idol]

yes

[feral jay]

I do that everywhere

[elfin idol]

even a small amount i think would mitigate the delay

[feral jay]

It can take large systems a very long time to stabilize if you match supply exactly to demand

[elfin idol]

just have a smart splitter at the end of the manifold that takes stuff if it attempts to stop moving

[elfin idol]

yeah i understand that

i have a long time its ok

🤣

[stone quiver]

I suppose if your conveyor is sufficiently long, then just-in-time construction would cause power cycling once or twice, then the machine input stock would be sufficiently saturated that the just-in-time would then keep up

[feral jay]

And mathematically if you match input to demand exactly, they never fully stabilize, they only approach stable

[elfin idol]

yea

[cold berry]

I'm just going to be sad about poppy's playtime 5 not being as good as 3 or 4 (personal taste) but still spend my weekend watching various people playing it while playing Satisfactory.

At least my factory is here lol. Working on iron RN

[elfin idol]

probably should have mentioned this whole question was regarding a system that exactly matches input to output lol

[cold berry]

I'll post pics in screenshots soon. It's looking nice IMO

[elfin idol]

with 0 tolerance

mathematically it makes sense on paper (quite literally i drew it all out lol) but the way the game works just cant allow it to be perfect, its not a developer oversight by any means, its just a real limitation of a factory system

[stone quiver]

Exactly matching input to output and machine cycles matched is still going to stabilize, case-in-point, rocket fuel generation and people making exact amounts of machines.

Unless you purposefully starve the system and then try to start it all at once so it keeps converging towards steady state but you choose the worst starting point

[west jackal]

istg nobody ever ask to see my logistics floors in my circular build

[stone quiver]

Even just 1 WIP amount would stabilize the system

[elfin idol]

WIP?

[stone quiver]

Work in progress

Sorry, manufacturing

[elfin idol]

wdym by that

like extra input

[stone quiver]

WIP is your parts as it moves from raw to assembly

Your ingot is work in progress because it's not a steel pipe yet, etc.

[elfin idol]

i see

so yeah like extra input

idk tho like if im looking at the miners and furnaces they are all completely full

[spare prism]

Hi

[elfin idol]

which indicates a bottleneck

[stone quiver]

Low level conveyors can exacerbate the issue

Mk6 is a world apart from the rest

[elfin idol]

i overdid them tho xd most of it only actually needs mk1 but i ended up going over it all with mk2

initially i tuned each belt to what it needed

but i decided to swap all to mk2 to see if it helped but nope

maybe its because i have a manifold feeding inputs and then another manifold but directly connected to the outputs of some parts

[jagged nymph]

the numbers on motors are so bad 😭

[stone quiver]

Ohhh ok that makes much more sense

[elfin idol]

ill show sec

[stone quiver]

Mk6 is 20x faster than 1. Mk2 is 2x faster than 1. But ya low conveyors can face issues high ones don't

[sudden creek]

IM ALMOST DONE

FINALY

[unkempt blade]

yeah but lower conveyors look much cooler so there's a tradeoff for speed

[elfin idol]

sent in #screenshots u can see there are two manifolds connected kinda on input and output

[stone quiver]

What no way, glow in the dark is best conveyor

[wispy osprey]

Some people don't have issue with the throughput of 60 items per minute

[unkempt blade]

that's the lamest one!

[feral jay]

Come back and talk to us when you're actually done. Ficsit® doesn't deal in half-done.

[stone quiver]

You rogue!

[sudden creek]

ficsit doesnt pay me enough to care rn

[feral jay]

LMAO you think payment is part of the arrangement.

[stone quiver]

For their assemblies , sure. I get it. I'm not gonna move 1200 ore over 20 conveyors

[sudden creek]

exactly

[hazy topaz]

Why do the machines usually near the end of my manifold dont fill up? Im using the same belt speed for all of them and lowering it a tier when I split from the main line

[feral jay]

Are they actually not filling up, or just taking a long time to fill up?

[pearl owl]

i got my fuel power set up

[feral jay]

Oh also, just use your highest teir belt for everything, unless you're really hard up for materials

[hazy topaz]

might have just been me being impatient cause idk what changed but now it seems to be flowing smoothly into the last machines

[unkempt blade]

all I know is if I spend way too much time building a factory the least I better get out of it is all the little ingredients marching around at the slowest speed possible so I can actually see them

[feral jay]

Probably just taking a long time then, don't forget that every splitter cuts the items/min in half. After ten splitters you're getting 1/1024 of what you're feeding at the input, which is 0.1%

[hazy topaz]

I am aware of that but I filled the previous machines and made sure that my math was right (coal power plant so MK2 belt of coal splitting into 8 machines)

[feral jay]

Yeah a Mk.2 belt is enough, unless you upgraded from Mk.1 and you've got a teeny weeny bit of belt you missed when you upgraded

[hazy topaz]

Yeah its not working.

I triple checked my belts and for the first 4 machines, the output is split fine and they are backed up but the last 2 burn more coal then gets given

NEVER MIND AGHHHHHHHHHH

[west jackal]

if i have sloops early game, should i sloop production lines just to jump start my storage?

well, i mean like computers/hmf

ive got like a dozen sloops sitting in dimensional storage atm

[feral jay]

lol what was it?

[hazy topaz]

a very tiny mk1 belt.

[feral jay]

haha we've all done that at some point

[hazy topaz]

Is it better to use short belts when connecting from the splitter of the main line?

[pearl owl]

wait where did you get these numbers from bro

[fierce granite]

alt recipes got those numbers

[pearl owl]

im literally looking at satisfactory calculator with those numbers

it's so absurd it isnt letting me do that

[fierce granite]

3 alt recipes, diluted fuel, heavy oil residue, nitro rocket fuel

[pearl owl]

wait omg i see it

i do NOT have the resources for ts

[feral jay]

And hey, you were asking about how to start a nuclear buildout

[hazy topaz]

anyonee

[feral jay]

eh it doesn't matter

I just like them long enough so I can see what's on them, and point at their hitbox if case I need to delete them

[pearl owl]

shhhhh

[hazy topaz]

I posted a screenshot in #math-and-meta

i need help lol

[zenith spire]

CANADA RAAHHHHHHH 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🍁🍁🍁 MAPLE SRRYUUUUPPPP

[feral jay]

agreed

[rugged geyser]

should i put smart splitters at the end of my manifold line and set it to overflow so excess items go into the sink. Or does that mess up the manifold?

[willow pond]

ok under some lighting angles the paleberry bush shadows can occasionally look like a stinger

[feral jay]

That's basically their prime use case, sinking overflow

I'm turning on another 80 fuel generators woohoo!

[hybrid nymph]

Yes they can look like a stinger

[short fiber]

Can i make a rounded corner in satisfactory?

[rugged geyser]

alr

[willow pond]

good to know. now lemme go change my pants

[hybrid nymph]

Just working on homework, then I can play ▶️😀

[willow pond]

ok i have a dumb question for anyone who was in the game in early early days

did the devs take input on the enemies?

[short fiber]

Sorry i meant like diagonal walls

[willow pond]

dwalls

[feral jay]

fkn whitelist wtf

[willow pond]

i just mainly wanna know if i get to blame players for making some of the most terrifying mobs in gaming history

[feral jay]

They take all kinds of input, Coffee Stain is pretty good with that. Best to put a feature request or suggestion up at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - people can upvote it there so they can gauge interest.

hah there we go musta been a typo

[hybrid nymph]

I played since 2020 in early access. The answer was kind of

Yeah the nuclear hog is terrifying

[feral jay]

Since update 5 if memory serves

[willow pond]

the stingers scare the shit outta me

[hybrid nymph]

There was one thing that they didn't add in because they didn't feel like it fit the theme of the game, there was supposed to be a stinger boss

[willow pond]

i do remember that in a teaser

[hybrid nymph]

It was supposed to be added in update 5 but they scrapped it And he before that

They didn't do it in the game because they felt like a boss fight wasn't fitting the theme of the game

[willow pond]

resource gathering is the boss 🤣

[hybrid nymph]

The most requested thing in the game is MK3 pipes

And the devs say "oh it's too hard to implement"

[feral jay]

It's not that it's hard, it's a hardware precision limitation... too many CPUs would melt

[hybrid nymph]

They they won't If it's impossible to do, then how come Aquila was able to do it? Hmm 🤔

[feral jay]

That problem is easily solvable by throwing money at it

[hybrid nymph]

I know it is, it's dumb

[feral jay]

It would be much better imo to just reduce the fluid requirements of all the recipes than to implement Mk.3 pipes

[hybrid nymph]

I would gladly pay $25 for an expansion that added tiers 10-12

And then maybe tier 9 they could add MK3 pipes

[drowsy kelp]

Tier 9 already has portals and time stuff, what would 10-12 do

[hybrid nymph]

Hmm good question ❓

Well in my defense, I have not made it past tier 8

[willow pond]

colonization prep

building farms, housing, etc

[hybrid nymph]

I never attempted to make nuclear pasta

I like to Ficsit farming mod

[drowsy kelp]

So you go from portals and quantum time stuff to farming and houses

[hybrid nymph]

It adds the ability to make bread, muffins, baked potatoes, etc

[willow pond]

trying not to spoil things here 😛

[hybrid nymph]

I would love if they added farming to the game

So you could at the BARE MINIMUM farm: pale berries, mushrooms, and barrel nuts

[drowsy kelp]

Would 10-12 involve post-project assembly or would project assembly be moved back to phase 12

[elfin idol]

@feral jay i fixed the power usage not being flat

[hybrid nymph]

AKA DEEZ NUTS!

[elfin idol]

it took a lot of thinking

[hybrid nymph]

Tier 12 would move it back

[willow pond]

i mean, not necessarily setting up full crops, but maybe urban/rural planning

[feral jay]

Mine is still flat if I remove accelerators, converters, trains and sinks

[hybrid nymph]

There are already mods that add additional tiers

[feral jay]

LIke, perfectly flat

[elfin idol]

basically one output NEEDED to be a limiting factor if that makes sense, like it needed to be prioritized above others as an input for the final construction

but there was one other output for materials that was being prioritized first

[hybrid nymph]

I love this game, and using mods breaths new life into the game

[willow pond]

yea, i mean, they had to stop somewhere, which is understandable

[elfin idol]

literally just needed to rearrange some of the splitter/merger logic and its fine now

[hybrid nymph]

I'm at 150 hours and just barely getting to tier 8

Tier 7 took me like 60 hours

Because I took my time

To get to tier 7 it took me 92 hours

I haven't even unlocked nuclear yet

[hazy topaz]

I completed tier 1,2,3 of the milestones!!! WOOOHOOO 🥳

[elfin idol]

its because i had a splitter that needed to be getting split at a ratio of 10:5 for two different sides of the assembly, but the side that needed the 10, had something that it would always pull from before that splitter, which messes things up, like again in a completely perfectly packed system it should have still worked in theory kinda but with perfect inputs and outputs that would never actually happen

[willow pond]

lol i'm being downright leisurely with my progress since i'm xeriscaping the map. sitting at t6 500hrs in 🤣

[stone quiver]

You're just... blueprinting foundations for 500hr?

[willow pond]

nope

i'm clearing out all the veg

prolly half those hours are probably me afk letting some stuff just run

[elfin idol]

i owe u an apology

[stone quiver]

Just build through the veg, its your friend

[willow pond]

i've completed the game before, this is going to be my "full clear, do some architecture stuff" save

[elfin idol]

its weird because if the system starts packed it stays that way and settles but otherwise it almost diverges into chaos lol

its like with manifolds you have a certain leeway with the fractions you choose, but if you go to far with them it starts to diverge and messes up the system

if even one space isnt perfectly packed

makes sense now i think about it that way

shibal im going climbing with friends in like less than 5 hours and its 5:25am

oops

dont recommend playing for 18 hours straight

if i had priority splitters that issue would just never have happened ;/

time to set up coal power and tbh that can wait im tired and must sleep

[feral jay]

LOL "ElevADA"

heh I don't use elvators much

[willow pond]

very useful if you do sky bridges

[elfin idol]

actually ima leave copper sheets making over night because i cba to do that tomorrow

[willow pond]

ok why don't logs laying flat on the ground drop any resources

[viral abyss]

So what’s everyone’s playstyle? Mini builds all over the map or bring everything to one place and have one big city? Also do you like manifolds or no manifolds? Just curious. I’m like 70 hours in so still fresh but just started a long term world and keen to know others thoughts

[willow pond]

this time around i did little stuff to start, then once i had a biggish collection i migrated to the middle and am going to do a hub & spoke setup across the map

[worthy spear]

[phone] call me to disscuss best builds

[west jackal]

i do full production factories, so i bring in raw / semi raw resources (like oil products ill turn into plastic/etc before transporting) but other than that everything is on site

i pretty much always do manifolds, although for really low production items (like nuclear) load balancers are nice

[zinc hemlock]

whatever playstyle gives me the most excuses to build train lines all over the map

[west jackal]

yeah we love trains running the whole map 😉

[short fiber]

Kibits was right, working with the map instead of just making things flat is peak

[spare prism]

Bruh my friend left the game and my game crashed

[west jackal]

#screenshots message This is the factory i just finished / working on tryna make look nice

[gloomy tusk]

cant wait to get a pc and be able to run the game at 2k 120 FPS 🥹

Max settings

[west jackal]

yeah im at 4k ultra 140

[gloomy tusk]

fr?

[west jackal]

yessir

[gloomy tusk]

#off-topic-tech what specs?

[willow pond]

whoo doggo gave me a blue slug!

[west jackal]

what do yall think of it? im trying to decide what i want to do with the walls to make it look nicer

[whole shuttle]

is there a good website that helps me with like planning? or what amounts i need of certain buildings to produce.. say 2 heavy modular frames?

[west jackal]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[whole shuttle]

oh man thats a nice website ty so much

[west jackal]

you can set your alternate recipes/ the items you have avilable to input, as well as the machines you have access to, itll tell you the power draw, and the resources required to build it.

[whole shuttle]

so when it says to set it at 0.089x that means 8.9%?

[west jackal]

if you hover itll tell you percent

(usually more exact)

but yes 0.089x means 8.9%

gosh i need hoverpack. so annoying trying to feather the jetpack for building

[willow pond]

and nuclear waste

oh

i think i did get a purple one a couple months ago

[fresh river]

\i have 3500 minutes this session

is this bad

or good for the factory

[hybrid nymph]

that's like 3 days dude

you have issues lol

1 day is 1440 minutes

that's 2.4 days

[sleek creek]

Question, I have a train station setup, it has 2 freight platforms. I am pushing ore into both freight platforms into the input and they are both set to load. Neither container will take items though. Anyone know why?

[swift turret]

are you trying to use the output instead of input

[sleek creek]

Orange arrow from the splitter to a green input arrow in the container.

[fierce granite]

the square on the side of the freight platform lit up to show that it is powered?

[sleek creek]

I put a screenshot of the input and the station in the #screenshots channel

[fierce granite]

light is off, showing no power, and your train station is backwards

[sleek creek]

Oh god...

Thanks, that's what I get for staying up late. 🙂

[abstract heron]

i have many

[fierce granite]

i posted an example and circled the light

[obtuse sable]

Question for regular multiplayer without using a dedicated server. Is the save file tied to whoever initially created the save, or can anyone that joins in also host it for a later session?

[fierce granite]

you can send the save file to another person to host later, but if there is blueprints, those also have to be sent as well.

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys

just playing some yugioh

then hopping on the game after GF goes to bed

[severe pewter]

I'm doing a tally atm, to find out what I'm going to need for resources.

This is about as easy as manually erasing every entry in the Windows registry one at a time

On a uh...unrelated note. How does the game deal with moving fluids by pipe about 1400 meters or so?

[sterile blade]

I was jesting, but the actual annoyance (the few times people notice) is on the side of factory efficiency
Ie: people going crazy because they crunched all the numbers right and built everything correctly just to see things work below max efficiency

[forest tangle]

Can a production machine pull from dimentional depot directly?

[severe pewter]

This happened to me with a sushi factory, because uneven loading on a shared belt causes the belt to slosh. The most effective fix was to add a buffer between each output and the shared belt (making the belt longer/long enough works too).

But I'd imagine that most peoples' issues would be on the fluid side

[severe pewter]

I wish. But no.

Not even my jetpack is that smart.

[sterile blade]

If they could, that'd defeat the whole "can't teleport items" thing 😅
Ie: you can teleport items, but only manually; making that into am automatic thing is a big "nono" as it goes against current game design ^^

[normal orbit]

input only

[sterile blade]

I think we're talking about completely different things
I was referring to the "hoverpack bug" causing machines to go idle, which can make it looks like one's factory isn't as efficient as the factory plans dictate (ie: "did I F-up somewhere? Oh, it's just the hoverpack bug")
Belt throughput has (should have?) nothing to do with it

[normal orbit]

belts do not slosh :p

[sterile blade]

Give it the right graphical glitch, and they can look like they do

(I think they fixed that though, iirc; referring to the bug that made items go "back and forth" over belt junctions)

[severe pewter]

Honestly, I don't see a problem with automatic outgoing teleport. Just limit the global max outgoing by sharing the reqd mats with the dimensional depot

[green fiber]

Add pumps if the pipeline isnt completely flat.
Pumps would preferably go on low points in the network. You'd add enough pumps to go over any bump of course

Its not a head lift thing necessarily, but moreso a push thing. Keeps fluid moving along better

If the pipeline is pretty flat, you wont need pumps at all likely

[severe pewter]

Ooo, I'm not familiar with that. Only recently started using the hoverpack too.

[severe pewter]

I swear on my own life, with uneven loading of a max, or near-maxed belt, they absolutely do slosh. I watched it happen in real time.

[green fiber]

What is belt slosh supposed to be

They cant go backwards

The only thing that can happen is you see the items move more in waves because once machines are full, the belt starts filling up (if its near capacity as you said and not AT capacity)

[severe pewter]

I get that, but I don't know how pipes behave (both in-game and with CPU cycles) regarding slosh over very long distances, because I haven't tried it yet.

[sterile blade]

I think they're referring to what we sometimes call "temporary backups" when merging belts close to full (so one or both input stutter for a while)

[green fiber]

Pipes generally favour moving in one direction if they were already moving in that direction unless you give them a reason to turn around

That "reason" is usually a big pressure difference, such as a big collimn of fluid being pushed down by gravity or other things

If you force a very long pipeline to stop, it will generally resume flowing normally once it can flow again

[sterile blade]

Automatic item teleportation isn't problematic per se, it's just very much against what the devs intend for the game (ie: extremely unlikely to be added in Vanilla) as they value the challenges posed by logistics, which teleportation would trivialize

[green fiber]

You only gotta watch out for junction splits near your machines as near-capacity or at-capacity mk 2 pipes do NOT like if their flow rates have to be split unequally between junction outputs

[severe pewter]

It's hard to properly explain, but the closest I can relate it to is a sonic boom. If an already almost maxed belt becomes maxed, then the "full" portion travels backwards as quickly as the moving items behind it hit the sudden wall.

Slosh is when the belt hovers right at the edge of maxing out, so this wall cascades back, then things move forward. Rinse and repeat.

Short, and especially short & slow Belts suffer the most from this effect.

[green fiber]

Its not necessarily a wave traveling backwards, its more of an illusion.
The items pile up as they stop moving and once the belt xan, all of those start moving at the same speed again

Its not flowing backwards, its just filling because it cant move forwards anymore

[severe pewter]

But this line between the moving and non-moving portions of the belt behave in a sloshing sort of pattern. So I just call it slosh.

[sterile blade]

Ie: "backing up" Vs "flowing backward"

Imo, that's very confusing and misleading in belt context

[green fiber]

Calling it slosh is confusing terminology wise because slosh is ususlly reserved for a a category of sometimes disruptive pipe behaviour where the pipe does change flow direction.

Would you call stop-and-go traffic slosh too?

[severe pewter]

It's definitely an edge-case type scenario, but Sushi belts are susceptible to it

[green fiber]

The same happens with cars stopping at a light and then resuming once its green

[severe pewter]

Actually, now that you mention it. Rush hour traffic would be car slosh.

[sterile blade]

Most sushi belts like to be "free flowing", so they don't often deal well with back-ups (...though, some actually rely on back-ups too xD)

[green fiber]

One crucial difference. Every car has delay / momentum for speeding up which is what cases these "car waves" to travel backwards

Belts do not do this once they resume moving

They are the ideal car driver: all start moving at the same time at the speed limit once they can

[severe pewter]

It's not equivalent to regular stop and go traffic, but rush hour traffic specifically when the lanes start to overflow.

[sterile blade]

That's a funny way to describe it all

[green fiber]

I mean... it is what it is

[severe pewter]

This is true.

[stone python]

idk, calling it sloshing is just weird because belts arent a liquid

[green fiber]

Either way, belt "slosh" doesnt cause waves to continuously travel backwards

It resolves itself instantly once the belt can move again at max speed for a sufficient amount of time

As all the bunched up parts move into the machines and splitters or mergers even

[severe pewter]

If you want to be picky about it, the shape would resemble a serrated knife.

[green fiber]

Hmm.. i dont quite get that

[severe pewter]

I kinda wish I had taken videos of it. I could replicate it, but I don't really want to back up the entire factory in the process.

[stone python]

but it wont back up if you are feeding the correct ammount into the belt, and the machines you are feeding are consuming all that is being fed. I guess I'm just not getting what you are trying to explain and i even scrolled back to your original post.

idk, maybe im missing something

[severe pewter]

Imma get a bit into the weeds for this one, and it was a situation I wasn't even aware of until it happened to me:

At the time, I spent hours chasing belt lines and double-checking math for the tenth time, trying to figure out why things were backing up when they clearly shouldn't.
That was when I happened to notice the pattern in the belt itself, what I've been referring to as slosh. If the paused section reached the input, and from there all the way to the machine, then the machine would be forced into a temporary shutdown state.

In turn, I also realized that the whole reason this was happening was because I was assuming that items would automatically feed onto the shared belt. But in reality, the gaps were unevenly spaced, and sometimes the outputs would miss their merge windows.

As for why the actual belt in question backed up in the first place, I'm still not sure. There was no reason for it. All I can guess is that the offloading to the input downstream would cause a very small pause. But I fixed it by upgrading the belt tier for the section.

[hybrid nymph]

hey guys, what tier are you on?

[severe pewter]

9?

[hybrid nymph]

I'm on tier 8

[severe pewter]

8 is nice

[hybrid nymph]

I just added mods to my world, and just 15 simple mods:
Faster manual crafting redux
vanilla upgrades
glass fluid buffer
inventory slots 150
awesome points x100
better power storage
balanced craftable power shards
power towers plus
fuel chainsaw
elevator icon pack
void spheres
enhanced depot
infinite zoop
remove empty dimensional stacks
awesome artifacts

[green fiber]

I think images would help here.
Even if you fixed it, an image of the places where the issue occured would help a ton more

[stone python]

ya i still do not get it, id have to see a picture of the setup to understand. ive never had an issue with injection manifolds, or manifolds in generl, unless i did my math wrong and tried to violate the belt throughput

[severe pewter]

Images wouldn't be enough. I could do a short clip though, if you don't mind waiting a day or two.

[green fiber]

Sure, just ping me with that

I can only assume it may have had to do with like merger priority or something relative to belt speed

[severe pewter]

The visual effect itself is pretty fun to watch, and I would have loved to leave it, but lacked the space to stretch the outputs.

[hybrid nymph]

honestly I think the devs aren't telling the truth when they said "MK3 pipes aren't possible"

because the modder Aquila did it

[cedar vault]

lads i am making a nice creative world which so far looks great in my opinion, would someone like to join me?

[reef basin]

reliable mk3 aren't possible

[autumn path]

Can anyone show me where the main starting spot is on the interactive map? Or are the impurities changed? Can't seem to find it where i thought it was using the filters

[hybrid nymph]

explain @reef basin

[reef basin]

The map has option to show starting locations

[autumn path]

same spot i used for .6 and .8

doesn't work, none of them have 3 normal iron from what i see

[reef basin]

Pipes that would work well enough so that devs would be happy with it

[stone python]

you know you can.....venture away from where it lands you...right?

go walk around and find 3 nodes

[autumn path]

i have like 8

[hybrid nymph]

Are the mk2 pipes really the limit for fluids?

[scarlet rose]

600 cubic meters per minute is the limit, yes

For a singular pipe

[reef basin]

You know how mk2 vs mk1 has more "issues"? The same would apply to mk3 vs mk2

[gleaming sun]

What are the “issues”?

[scarlet rose]

Mk6 pipe when, let me transfer 1200 m3 per minute

[reef basin]

Requiring more care and specific setups to get the system flow stable at max flow

[gleaming sun]

Aah. I see, something I’m going to have to read more on. So it’s more apt to slosh around?

[bitter crow]

yo how can i get 266.666667 from 1066??

[acoustic plinth]

Hey guys. Did version 5.6 add hardware lumens?

[bitter crow]

no idea

[spark ruin]

nope

[reef basin]

One splitter

[bitter crow]

well the 1066 is on 3 belts

do i just give 1/4 of every belt to everyone?

[reef basin]

One splitter from a belt that has at least 266.666

[bitter crow]

hmm alright

and say that this belt has leftover after the 266,666 subtraction, do just put that on the belt that has less than 266,666?

[reef basin]

Wdym

[scarlet rose]

nearly got me coal generator plant setup

450 MW ain't much but its a start

[bitter crow]

i think i got it

lmao

[torpid estuary]

I want an achievement for if you complete the game without using trains

tractor life is tough

[edgy mason]

lol

[torpid estuary]

I mean that's what the game used to be like

[edgy mason]

some of ImKibitz's infrastructure is tractor

or truck whatever its called

[torpid estuary]

I am not using trains so far and am working on phase 4

[karmic hare]

Purities were changed for 1.0 compared to U8 and prior

[torpid estuary]

doubtful. Too many vowels

me? nah

dw

Německo is where I'm from

[jagged nymph]

i tried to learn german once

too complicated for my small brain

i feel like ive said that here before actually

[bitter crow]

i hate german

[jagged nymph]

whats wrong with it

[bitter crow]

its the only subject i dont have awesome grades in

[jagged nymph]

well school language classes suck ass

[bitter crow]

i literally understand 20% of the text we are readubg

sigh

[torpid estuary]

skill issue

[bitter crow]

tbh yeah

[torpid estuary]

but no shade from me. School was never particularly fun for me and language classes definitely weren't

[jagged nymph]

i do know one phrase in german

[torpid estuary]

I had two English teachers that were really good though

[jagged nymph]

that i heard somewhere

das ist hochverrat am vaterland

[torpid estuary]

one of them said put your vocab and grammar books away and let's just talk

and he recorded us and we did role plays twice and watched it back

shit was intense

[bitter crow]

oh yeah thanks for reminding me: im setting the language on satisfactory to german

[torpid estuary]

not the most common of phrases

[jagged nymph]

i think itll help me if i travel there

because uhh

yknow im not quite sure yet

[bitter crow]

Germany sounds so much more losery compared to Deutschland

IM MAKING A FABRIKATOR!!!

[jagged nymph]

ikr

[bitter crow]

omg oil is Öl in german

Öl means beer in swedish

[jagged nymph]

also very confusing because a "germanic" language does not in fact mean that the language originates from german

T̷̙͗́̈Ḣ̵̈́̄̃E̶͆̎̀̔ ̶̛͒͌͝O̷̓̃̓͘R̵̫̞̉͜B is levitating above him

[bitter crow]

i sure love Fördeband

hard drive is festplatte

i find that funny

[jagged nymph]

in what language

[bitter crow]

german

[jagged nymph]

i see

wait does fest mean like hard or something

hard... plate? cause like theres plates in it?

like the hard drive platter

[still rivet]

if I have biofuel generators, is it better to have lots or just barely?

[torpid estuary]

you know what else is Festplatte?

[bitter crow]

no

[still rivet]

wondering if they use the fuel slower if I have lots

[torpid estuary]

wait I can't post pics here 😭

I can't post links either damn

those platters at parties with snacks on them

[bitter crow]

post it in like streams

[bitter crow]

oh my god

[torpid estuary]

with breads and sausage and cheese

[jagged nymph]

because... feast... plate?

[torpid estuary]

exactly

[bitter crow]

i installed satisfactory on my snack plate

[jagged nymph]

if you try hard enough you can roughly get an idea of what alot of german words mean if you know english but not german

[torpid estuary]

most modern English stems from its French influence though

if you use only words and expressions from germanic origin your English sounds distinctly different than what people are typically used to

[bitter crow]

germanic

[torpid estuary]

there was this one language geek on youtube who showed how that sounds like in a yt short but I can't find it anymore

[carmine ginkgo]

bruh just found out im at 64 hour of playing and i haven't even started with phase 3 of the elevator.💀

[hybrid nymph]

great I guess I'm getting my phone fiex tomorrow

well it's bettter than paying $400 for a new phone

[jagged nymph]

im boutta finish phase 2 of space elevator

[hybrid nymph]

I'm American lol and I hate it

[jagged nymph]

parts are automated just waiting for them to fill up

[hybrid nymph]

great job! that will unlock tiers 5&6

you'll love trains

[jagged nymph]

jetpack

[hybrid nymph]

we love you brother

[jagged nymph]

imma setup a packaged liquid biofuel plant for my jetpack

[hybrid nymph]

I identify as Swedish tbh

[bitter crow]

wow

[hybrid nymph]

my family on both sides is from Sweden

[bitter crow]

why not fuel?

[jagged nymph]

biofuel lasts way longer per charge so you can stay in the air longer

[carmine ginkgo]

just do fuel. biofuel cant be perfectly automated i think

[hybrid nymph]

My parents were thr first born in America, my family moved to America in 1960

[jagged nymph]

i just have to provide it with wood and leaves

[carmine ginkgo]

ew. manual labor

[jagged nymph]

downside is you cant go up as fast

but i like that tradeoff

[still rivet]

this dumbass pig just ran off a cliff when he tried to do a sneak attack out of nowhere

[jagged nymph]

makes it easier to hover and build stuff in factories

[bitter crow]

oh shit youre right

[carmine ginkgo]

ive done turbofuel cause i build a big powerplant with it so i can tap fuel when i need more packaged turbofuel

[jagged nymph]

and turbofuel makes you go up really fast but doesnt last long on its charge

[carmine ginkgo]

just use whatever you like

[jagged nymph]

yeah i like bio

[still rivet]

different fuels have different effects use whatever fits your playstyle

[jagged nymph]

ionized fuel is ofc the best

but its lategame

[carmine ginkgo]

i plan on upgrading my powerplant to ionized when i unlock it

so ill use it for my jetpack than as well

[scarlet rose]

okaaaay, coal generator setup, everything up until phase 2 automated

already did

this is my third playthrough

[jagged nymph]

i already didnt

[jagged nymph]

im on my like 7th playthrough at this point

[carmine ginkgo]

bruh

[jagged nymph]

i havnt finished it on any of those though

[scarlet rose]

you completed phase 5 seven times?

[carmine ginkgo]

this is my first

[jagged nymph]

no

[scarlet rose]

that is what i meant by "3rd playthrough"

[jagged nymph]

my current save is going way better than any of my previous ones

[scarlet rose]

wdym?

god no

1000+ hours

[jagged nymph]

well ive gotten to phase 5 on all those playthroughs but never actually completed it

[scarlet rose]

yeah i was like that too, i could've done phase 5 sooner, but i didn't want to end it before actually doing everything

[hybrid nymph]

Yes I'm Swedish, I have white skin, I'm 6 ft tall, I have blue eyes, and I have blonde hair. I think that qualifies as being Swedish

[bitter crow]

compacted coal almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter

[zenith pecan]

Compacted coal as a byproduct is where most of my steel comes from 🙂

[bitter crow]

im making a turbofuel plant

kill me please

[zenith pecan]

Mine is only one step beyond, rocket fuel, but because I'm using the nitro rocket with blenders, it spews thousands of compact coal as waste.

[bitter crow]

GAH

thats gonna be me next phase

[zenith pecan]

Enough waste to feed into a nearby foundry, which produces nearly 5000 steel ingots.

[jagged nymph]

i got battlefield 6 for free like 3 months ago and im just now boutta try it out

[zenith pecan]

If you don't go large scale though, you can get a decent amount of power with a uranium fueled reactor setup, including processing plutonium & sinking the rods.

[bitter crow]

very interesting

[zenith pecan]

A small to mid sized nuclear build would be somewhat less punishing than hundreds of fuel generators and miles of pipes & refineries.

No wishing involved, I've built large scale nuclear, not an issue.

As with any build, use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production and break the build down into smaller plans to not go nuts.

I just onlined my replacement steel products & motor factory 🙂 , doing all the architecture work before rebuilding hmf again.

Five floors of asemblers haha!

Dw about that, when my portal hub is self sustaining, I'll start sharing my world again.

That bit's easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

Hell, actually easier since I created that clip, you can vertical nudge a blueprint to cut into the ground.

I've seen a lot of builds that would put my utilitarian style to shame.

Current construct, #design-and-architecture message , 150 motors & 20 spare stators for depots.

Whole thing uses just over 5000 steel, though some of that will be for the hmf factory that's going up next.

Also have a coke plant planned so I can go copper nuts, I need to feed the particle accelerators for pasta, must have singularities to feed the portals.

[normal orbit]

why using coke for copper when you can use water for more copper :p

[zenith pecan]

Because the construction is too far inland, if you think I'm piping water those distances again, you have another thing coming.

Besides, the canyon oil wells are free.

I need to get the other two particle accelerators spun up.

I don't do megafactories though, I just build loads of regular ones.

[uneven vault]

will satisfactory get a macos release?

[jagged nymph]

this factory is pretty...

satisfying

[normal orbit]

Satisfactory even

[prime stratus]

whats better one long mk1 belt or tractor

[normal orbit]

both are terrible

[jagged nymph]

if one mk1 belt is sufficient why does the mk matter

if you said 10 mk1 belts or tractor thats different

[smoky flame]

I just reinstalled this game and I've been having a blast, last time I played was in 2022

[leaden turret]

Q&A: Is a Mac version in the future?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO_uubsn0Fw&t=6750

And many people are spending their CT on toying with the official satisfactory SF for Mac.

So it's very unofficial, but people are loving the idea.

[leaden turret]

100m belt vs. 1km belt

[jagged nymph]

why does it matter if its a 1km mk1 belt or 1km mk6 belt

[leaden turret]

kthunk bweeeeoooooop

amount of time you have to wait for thingst to start up

once things are running it makes no difference, it's the time to first production that matters.

[jagged nymph]

oh

idc if my factory takes 10 hours to spin up

[leaden turret]

then you gotta wait 20 hours for the next factory 😛

[jagged nymph]

why did he block you

[scenic mirage]

😭 its not that deep bro

[pale grotto]

Yall what u do when u want to rebuild everything? (Like ur whole train network, factories and stuff)

[floral bronze]

does every satisfactory world have the same areas with nodes? I cant seem to find an entrance to a pure crystal cave

[still rivet]

sorry for this dumbass question, but can you lock slots from storagecontainers?

not sure if I remember it from factorio or was it in this game

[floral bronze]

pair it with green peppers and its orgasm worthy

[jagged nymph]

you are chorizo

[floral bronze]

pineapple + tandoori chicken is the best

ham and pineapple is also very nice

[still rivet]

bro

[jagged nymph]

what

[still rivet]

next time try to add tomatoes to ananas and ham pizza

it happened to me once in accident in a pizzeria

was surprisingly good

[floral bronze]

wow

its actually world wide

very stereotypical but it genuinely just varies from one person to another lol

Does anyone know where the entrance to the far north western cave with quartz is? I cant find it for the life of me.

[tall lantern]

there's 3 or 4 entrances. One on the far western coast blocked with explodable boulders, a small one on the north coast, and one near the coal/iron by the river separating the desert from the northern forest

[floral bronze]

ill look now, tysm

[jagged nymph]

the one i use is right by a pure iron node kinda on top of a little area with like 4 coal nodes right by it

[jagged nymph]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#5;-203574;-154457|gameLayer|caves;quartzPure
Right here you can see caves and where their entrances are

[floral bronze]

thats definitely gonna be helpful, thanks

[prime stratus]

am i using ziplines wrong cus it trowns me off at every pole

[tall lantern]

if using normal power poles, gotta jump off each time or you'll just crash into the pole

so you either want to use power towers (which are good for long distance power lines anyway), "wall" mounts to have it more overhead/to the side instead of blocked by poles, or just pay attention as you go

[surreal ingot]

Is bauxite only used for aluminum?

Bet

Gonna make a train that collects a ton of nodes

[prime stratus]

how does water work cus my friend is explaining to me that i need to loop it for some reson

[floral bronze]

well, what is the water going into? do you need to split it?

[prime stratus]

into coal and yes lots of splits

[floral bronze]

take a look into screenshots, something along these lines should work

[prime stratus]

what screen shots?

[floral bronze]

#screenshots

[prime stratus]

ayo @floral bronze can you look at mine and point out the mistake?

[floral bronze]

sure, im not the greatest but I can try help

from the ending junction loop it all back into the starting pipe

[prime stratus]

i did but for some reson atleast one of my generators always turns off for a fex seconds at a time so almost neverare all 8 running how do i fix it?

[floral bronze]

overtime each machine will fill up

[prime stratus]

you sure

[floral bronze]

yup

[prime stratus]

i already did it in the ss

[surreal ingot]

I usually hook up a pump at 90 water per minute to two. Then I let it fully fill up before turning on the coal gens

[prime stratus]

wdym

[surreal ingot]

Underclock a pump to 75% and hook it up to two generators

Then turn the generators on standby and let it fully fill up

Then you can turn it off standby

[prime stratus]

you can underclock pumps?

[surreal ingot]

You can underclock everything once you unlock it in the MAM

[jagged nymph]

you cant underclock ladders

[surreal ingot]

Wdym I always underclock them to troll my friends!

[normal orbit]

You cannot under clock pumps. Extractors can be.

[leaden turret]

🪜
⏰

underclocked ladder

[jagged nymph]

no no, thats an underladdered clock

🕰️
🪜

[leaden turret]

that's an overclocked ladder

[jagged nymph]

no cause the ladder is under the clock

[leaden turret]

stand a ladder up under a clock without someone holding the clock up

[jagged nymph]

y

[leaden turret]

can't do it, so ontologically it's an overclocked ladder

[jagged nymph]

that... that doesnt make any sense

[leaden turret]

can't make clock float, but can stand a ladder up

[jagged nymph]

i can do that easily actually

[jagged nymph]

who said anything about making it float

actually its way easier to put a clock on a ladder than the balance a ladder on a clock

[leaden turret]

ladder has space between legs

[zenith pecan]

Lesson learned, avoid weird feeds and some designs of asymetric manifolds, while the system works, it causes stutters which backs up the chain and causes shortages, bah!

[spare warren]

hope we get proper switch in next update

[sterile blade]

Fluids?

[zenith pecan]

Naa, I just had a standard belt manifold that was fed from one side and had a split/merge thing going to enable the distribution of wire throughout the motor facility, the design was enough to cause stalls as it wasn't planned, I'm going to test a simplified and more centralised one.

The trouble with four belts putting out 1080 wire, but two floors want 1200 and the other two wanting 900.

[prime stratus]

very long conveyor or trtactor?

[sinful roost]

Tractors look cooler

[snow bison]

anyone have a good steel factory layout that produces all steel items ?

[prime stratus]

efficiency?

[mortal ginkgo]

same as 2 belts

since you can input 2 belts to truck station, another one can unload 2 belts

[prime stratus]

im using it for a steel factory to move iron from a place really far away styill worth it?

[mortal ginkgo]

I use tractors every where

[frosty mirage]

I FINISHED MY BUILDING MATERIALS FACTORY, god dang it took a while but its finally over

I think its time for a space elevator factory but i might need to learn trains for this one

[hazy topaz]

is solid steel a good recipe?

[normal orbit]

Yes

[tall lantern]

it gives more output for the same base resources at the cost of more space, complexity, power

[hazy topaz]

oh ill take that

[tall lantern]

is that a good tradeoff? depends on you, but generally that one in particular is well-liked

[mortal ginkgo]

it asks for limestone

[floral bronze]

almost finished my super computer factory and I just unlocked an alternate recipe for them which makes more for less

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[mortal ginkgo]

everyone knows, limestone (especially from impure nodes) is a great thing yes

[zenith pecan]

The system is still not performiong as advertised, I'm guessin the issue is on the ground and first floors where 1200 wire is called for and a mk6 belt is merging.

[idle yarrow]

Guys, How much hours total did it took you to finish the game for the first time (even if you restarted)

[leaden turret]

looks at 4k+ hours

I'll let you know when I finish

[floral bronze]

currently at 80 hours ( not even making phase 4 materials yet )

[idle yarrow]

Bruh

I'm at 140h and nearly done

[oblique aspen]

Many people just play because its fun, not to necessarily aim for the finish

[floral bronze]

this game is giving me anything but caterium computers

[idle yarrow]

I believe every game need a goal to be fun

[normal orbit]

700 hours or so first one. Just kinda rushed phase 5 cuz I wanted to restart and build differently with what I learned

[zenith pecan]

Bloody hell, ok well 1 smart splitter and the prio merger appear to be the fault haha.

I replaced them with the bog standard versions and suddenly all four belts push 1080

[hazy topaz]

can I take resources out of the hub terminal when ive put them in

[zenith pecan]

I'd better go through the system and look for material pile ups.

[floral bronze]

no

[hazy topaz]

dam

[ornate saffron]

ther is awlays more

[frosty mirage]

im 240 hours and not finished phase 3

[floral bronze]

gg

[idle yarrow]

What are you doing 😭

[ornate saffron]

thisis normal

[hazy topaz]

I know I just put a crap ton of steal beams into a milestone and now I want the back for lights lol

[floral bronze]

the complexity of phase 4 materials makes me want to eat a hdmi cable

[frosty mirage]

enjoying the game? lol

[crystal cedar]

Icompleted at 490 cuz i used fly

[idle yarrow]

Afk 90% of the time

[ornate saffron]

eat Chorizo instead.

[frosty mirage]

i rebuilt all my spaghetti into modular vertical factories

[floral bronze]

chorizo pizza topped of with beef?

[frosty mirage]

100% efficient ofc

[ornate saffron]

beefalo would be better

[frosty mirage]

my design on the factories is questionable but i dont care

[ornate saffron]

but that to much awesome for one pie

[frosty mirage]

i'll probably get back to design at some point

[acoustic bear]

Chorizo + Queso = best chip dip

that's the standard for every mexican restaurant. Order a choriqueso for the table and a big margarita

[frosty mirage]

yea, i stopped my progress intentionally, but i rly need to start planning my space elevator factory for phase 3, i got through phase 1 and 2 with manual craft + spaghetti setups

i am now 100% spaghetti free

my approach might be OCD ish tho

[stone quiver]

To finish phase 5? 100-120 hours, two of us with a fair amount of afk but I stopped and sunk all my phase 5 parts because we are just building

[acoustic bear]

I have a bad habit of overbuilding everything

[idle yarrow]

Total hours including other files that you may have restarted for whatever reason

[frosty mirage]

not sure why you would rush it tho

[stone quiver]

Ok add 15 minutes

[floral bronze]

commitment

[idle yarrow]

Impressive

[frosty mirage]

i mean you can finish in 50 hours but your whole world is a mess

[stone quiver]

We restarted to do a combined file after I learned how to place buildings and miners bc we wanted to do desert

[unkempt blade]

the mess is largely independent from the time spent on the save

[stone quiver]

It's very easy to do elevator parts if you just automate whatever then semi-automate them in a manufacturer with boxes

[frosty mirage]

what i like about this game is that it allows you to set personal goals as well

[acoustic bear]

ok, so adding catwalks to factories makes them look 10x cooler with barely any effort

[frosty mirage]

takes me a whole lotta time to be efficient and build vertically but i enjoy it

[acoustic bear]

you got 2km of vertical space. you should use it

[frosty mirage]

all my factories are vertical

i literally have no horizontal building skills

besides power setups

[zenith pecan]

My power is my most vertical construction.

[unkempt blade]

do you build them inside of rainbows too when you go vertical? #screenshots message

[frosty mirage]

my mental issues are moderate, not severe

but will probably get there

[frosty mirage]

i dont wanna handle fluids vertically tbh

[acoustic bear]

try making a big flat plane aboutr 20m above any other terrain so it's totally smooth and then laying out nice manifolds

[zenith pecan]

Rocket fuel is gas, no worries about head lift.

[ornate saffron]

when its not a gas you just gotta pump up the jam

[frosty mirage]

thats my principle in vertical building as well, i just do separate floors for each part of production (smelters or foundries/constructors/assemblers/manufacturers)

[acoustic bear]

apparently placing lights high up on cliffs tanks my FPS

it's trying to illuminate too much I htink

[frosty mirage]

not there yet, but will probably go vertical if i dont have to pump fluids

[unkempt blade]

if you leave a little extra space you can even use cartifolds which are functionally and aesthetically superior

[frosty mirage]

i better pump it? 😭

[ornate saffron]

my curretn save is around 200 hours. HAving trouble finding the will to polay though so im just chillin

[acoustic bear]

I totally feel that. I've had the urge to play other shit lately so I do that and come back when it strikes me

I wanna finish phase 5 and restart

[ornate saffron]

im reading mostly

[acoustic bear]

that's an even better option

[stone quiver]

I want to set up a room in the sky that's enclosed and has a drone port deliver singularity cells and it powers my room of doors

The question is how best to power a building floating in the sky... packaged rocket fuel?

Plutonium deliveries?

[acoustic bear]

alien power augmenters

500MW per

[stone quiver]

Ohhh

I forgot they have a base power

[ornate saffron]

they also see the rest of the gris even when they are not connected giving you that sweet bonus

[acoustic bear]

I use those all the time to power random shit by itself

[stone quiver]

So what gets the bonus power? Itself?

[acoustic bear]

yeah, they get 10% of your whole network

[stone quiver]

Ok that can power a dozen doors and a drone port.

[acoustic bear]

so if you got 100k MW, you get 10k MW for free on each one

[stone quiver]

I need my magic doorways all confined to the magical portal box

[acoustic bear]

like I have a uranium node and drone port in a cave powered by an augmenter

with like a ton of power overhead left

slap a couple batteries on it to smooth anything out as an insurance policy and it's enough to do quite a bit

[stone quiver]

Alien power would give me 15-20k easy enough to power my sky cube dreams

[acoustic bear]

it's 10 sloops but worth it

[stone quiver]

Eh I got my nut, no need to extra sink stuff

[ornate saffron]

just dont put your tongue in the beam

[acoustic bear]

intructions unclear, dick stuck in sloop

[stone quiver]

Good way to lose your paleberries

[shrewd palm]

does anyone else have issues running mk1 pipes at their full throughput or do i just genuinely suck at pipes

[night sail]

I just realised I sunk 72 hours into satisfactory i still don't know what I am doing I suck at figuring out logistics especially if I have to set up a train line

[acoustic bear]

prefill your pipes

full pipes are happy pipes

like turn on each step of your system to fill each step before starting the next

[shrewd palm]

yeah ive been doing that

working on a rocket fuel plant and problems have started showing up now that its been running for a while

[shrewd palm]

you'll figure them out with time

[acoustic bear]

this game really is nothing but building something, realizing it sucks and rebuilding it better

especially as you unlock more recipes

[mortal ginkgo]

ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE REFINERIES

[shrewd palm]

with trains in particular try to build them with as much room for expansion as you can

[night sail]

My builds are so ugly but I know I can't do any better lol

[acoustic bear]

I think your first factories should be mostly geared towards filling dimensional depots with basic components

[mortal ginkgo]

You can, what most people doesn't know is how insanely time consuming something can be to work on decorating etc

[shrewd palm]

like leaving a good distance between block signals, making a blueprint for tracks, leaving a foundation or two in between the tracks to run belts/pipes and a power line, etc

[stone quiver]

Did you do the math for fuel gen and consumption? If you have a bit too much gens you'll slowly burn it all down

[normal orbit]

rocketfuel manifolds tend to be rather large, you probably need to add some pumps before and in the middle to get flow thruout the manifold

[acoustic bear]

I tend to undercount my generators specifically for that reason

[shrewd palm]

if anything i dont have enough gens, im usin g a little bit of the fuel for drones

[acoustic bear]

then package anything you have left over

[shrewd palm]

afaik you dont need headlift to move things across flat spaces

[normal orbit]

pumps do more than just headlift

[acoustic bear]

like if I need 24 gens, I'll build 20 or 22 and leave that 2 gen "overhead" for packaging and keeping the pipes full

[shrewd palm]

i think ive got like 4-5ish gens of "overhead" fuel production

with 373 burning fuel

[stone quiver]

And you're still having them go dry?

[shrewd palm]

yes

its something with the refineries at the very start of the line not getting enough crude oil but i genuinely have no idea why

[stone quiver]

The answer is more pumps

[shrewd palm]

im making more than enough, top feeding, and have the manifold looped but a handful are at lik 70% efficiency

[stone quiver]

70% efficiency means nothing

[acoustic bear]

are you using water anywhere in the chain?

[stone quiver]

Is their input 0/6

Or 50/6

[acoustic bear]

I've had problems with my water setups before

[shrewd palm]

everything that needs it is full on it

[stone quiver]

Yeah but people use uptime to diagnose and it's not how it works. Your uptime will drop because he isn't using enough rocket fuel

Which means the blenders will stop while their output sits full

Which means refinery will stop while HOR is full etc

[shrewd palm]

i see

[normal orbit]

you can use uptime to diagnose, cause it will show where problems are and you can trace back from there

[stone quiver]

If your inputs are 0/6 then yeah crude issue. But uptime isn't an issue unless you're using all the output

I suppose but uptime itself doesn't indicate a "problem" based on your setup

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message like the right most blender is at 0% efficiency, which results in the crude deposit being at 87.5%

cause i'm currently not using that pipe, its being saved for packaged ionized fuel once i get around to make flasks

all the others are at 100% tho

[stone quiver]

Packaged ionized that's crazy stuff

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message also heres how i put pumps on my manifold to keep all 60 gens fueled

[stone quiver]

That's some serious power

[normal orbit]

14 600/min pipes of rocketfuel into 840 gens

[shrewd palm]

actually thats probably it and i was hallucinating a problem

not enough gens to burn fuel = not all machines working

[normal orbit]

correct

[shrewd palm]

cant wait to get this nuclear plant set up so i can worry about belts instead which make sense

[normal orbit]

yeah about that... nuclear still use a lot of pipes :)

[stone quiver]

Water everywhere

[mortal ginkgo]

Lets just say Nuclear uses a lil bit of water.. just a bit.. a tid bit.. very lil.. very smol..

🌊

[shrewd palm]

oh im aware

but those pipes go straight from water extractor into the power plants instead of all over the place like with rocket fuel

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message just a little water yes

barely any at all :p

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg here sending ocean of water to another zone

[normal orbit]

360 extractors to 180 nuclear gens :p

was kinda sick of pipes when i finished

[stone quiver]

Is that all the uranium in game going to 250%s?

[cunning glade]

Yeah massive project still tho if u mean from tools

I kinda wish we had slightly faster belts

[normal orbit]

no its 1200 uranium/min, and they clocked 240-213% depending on fuel

[shrewd palm]

#screenshots message i did this before i gave up on that world and decided to start a new one

only after watching kibitz do his stuff have i realized the errors in my ways

[cunning glade]

How much oil

For said power

[shrewd palm]

its nuclear so not very much

[cunning glade]

Oh fair

[shrewd palm]

only enough for like 2-300 rubber and maybe a handful of plastic

[cunning glade]

I should've looked at like the other 2 pictures

Maybe

[cunning glade]

Okay so more related how much uranium is that a min

[shrewd palm]

all of it

[stone quiver]

Mega power projects are what I avoid . I like to do rocket fuel 600 fuel/72 gens at a time

[cunning glade]

Can u send me the tools for it I wanna do the same

[shrewd palm]

just satisfactory modeler

[cunning glade]

Wanna get a look at resource requirements

[shrewd palm]

some people will say satisfactory tools but i am not a huge fan of that one