satisfactory

[ebon marten]

might be more power but uses less materials to make the extra product

[pallid ridge]

Yeah, that's the point

[golden burrow]

[wicked nacelle]

long term that's a bad use for sloops, but in the short term, use 'em on whatever yuo're behind on

[tall lantern]

it uses different resources - sloops are still a resource, and a much more finite one

[wicked nacelle]

If you're still on mk4 belts, then it can make sense

[rose igloo]

my game seems to lose its audio when I go out of focus, any way to prevent that?

[tall lantern]

isn't there a setting

[wicked nacelle]

you mean it doesnt' come back when you tab back in? or it just mutes when it's not focused?

[rose igloo]

mutes when not focused

[molten oxide]

Just started playing and wanted to know if they still are adding new content or not?

[rose igloo]

I like alt tabbing a lot so it's a bit jarring

[wicked nacelle]

I've always considered that a feature....so dunno

[bitter crow]

im on mk3 ww

[tall lantern]

1.2 this half of the year, yes

[spice osprey]

you can change that in the settings menu

[rose igloo]

I mean idt it's a bug but I figured there'd be a setting for it

[wicked nacelle]

can't imagine what you'd be using 15/m for without using it for belts... but sloop what you want. You can always change later

[rose igloo]

what's the setting called? I couldn't find it

oh I'm fucking blind lmao

it's literally "mute game when minimized"

[bitter crow]

im trying to move to mk4 but alright

[rose igloo]

nice, thanks

[ebon marten]

you know what i mean

[molten oxide]

Where can I go to know what's being added?

[wicked nacelle]

the flip side is a bunch of sloops sitting in your inventory doesn't do anything for you and you shouldn't be so limited on power that slooping an assembler is meaningful

[wicked nacelle]

also, many alts for making EIB (and components) are very helpful for base resource efficiency so keep an eye out for those

[bitter crow]

i see, thanks

[wicked nacelle]

yeah without alts it can be pretty annoying to ramp up in one location.

[tall lantern]

watch their streams and videos. Not much confirmed so far, but more info will come as we get closer to release

[wicked nacelle]

they haven't really said much. Looks like we are getting a fluid truck (gee thanks) and probably a randomized resource map (same map, same locations, just random what's there)

[tall lantern]

so far the confirmed stuff is I believe

• fluid trucks
• rain
• game modes
  • not fully confirmed, but very heavily hinted randomised resources

[rose igloo]

also, is there no way to respawn trees once they're cut with the chainsaw?

[tall lantern]

nope

[wicked nacelle]

no plants respawn. berries/nuts respawn on plants as long as the platn is there but their plants won't respawn. bacon doesn't respawn

[rose igloo]

wait, I thought bushes respawned if you harvested them by hand

[tall lantern]

nope

[wicked nacelle]

negatory

[rose igloo]

damn

wonder where I got that misconception from

[wicked nacelle]

I promise you don't care unless you mean for aesthetics. I think you can place folliage in SCIM thoughh

[rose igloo]

I've been to tier 6 before lol, I (mostly) know what I'm doing for this stage of the game

I just like conserving "non renewable" resources and their nodes

can you still farm that stuff with like 50 lizard doggos?

[wicked nacelle]

what do you mean"that stuff"?

[rose igloo]

biomass ingredients, berries, organic things like that

[wicked nacelle]

berries respawn. same with nuts

as long as you don't destroy the plant

[rose igloo]

yeah, but farming with doggos sounds easier if you want a lot of them

[wicked nacelle]

no.

also, you can get biomass from killing creatures and they respawn

[rose igloo]

I know you can

[wicked nacelle]

well you said it was "non renewable" -- it's not non-renewable

[rose igloo]

hence the quotes

[wicked nacelle]

??

whatever dude.

[rose igloo]

bruh moment

[ebon marten]

imagine if the doggos could bring you somersloops or those orb things ive forgotten the name of

[rose igloo]

(I meant the ingredients themselves here, not biomass itself)
which I suppose lizard doggos still make renewable, but that's why the quotes are there, because I don't know what their current pool is

[crude holly]

Okay so I'm completely lost

[tall lantern]

press M for map

[rose igloo]

huh, actually I don't see wood and leaves in their pool, did they change that or am I just dumb

[crude holly]

How do people make sure their water pumps are snapped?

I want to make a nice looking 6 stack where it is 3 | 3

but I don't know how to snap them

[tall lantern]

build walls, snap to walls

[normal orbit]

do you mean extractors?

[bitter crow]

i want to build a fuel gen but also get plastics, and for that i have two groups of nodes, one with one normal oil and one pure oil, and one with two impure oil, what should i build where?

[tall lantern]

whichever gives you the output numbers you want

want more power? make that the big one

[normal orbit]

blue crater lake is best for fuel, cause you have everything nearby for rocketfuel

[crude holly]

Yeah I want to make water extractors look nice and actually be aligned but I can't get it right for the life of me

[tall lantern]

want more plubber? make that the big one

best you can do with extractors is build some foundations into the water (underneath) and aim at those from the side

[bitter crow]

i see

[tall lantern]

annoyingly, no nudge

[normal orbit]

two options. build junctions or pipe support and snap them to those. or place foundations in the water and then you can snap em to the foundations

[bitter crow]

wait a minute, i can make the byproducts of refineries into other things

holy shit this opens up so much

oh my god

this is insane

[west jackal]

i spent so long making round foundations, but i dont think i can do anything on it because placing buildings rounded is kinda a pain. i shouldve made everything on foundation bps before building

@normal orbit #screenshots message
I blame you for this... issue

😛

[fading whale]

How many hours have you played?

Regardless, it does open for so much 😄

[sinful talon]

wait tell you find out you can get an alien power augmenter before building anything and get 550mw of free energy from 1 building

[acoustic bear]

the perfect amount to open every drop pod coincidentally

[sinful talon]

ya but that early your stuck on starting your starting base or take it to open up more drop ships :/

[hardy jetty]

Is making ficsonium the only way to completely get rid of nuclear waste or is there another way?

[ornate saffron]

you can sink the plutonium rods

[unkempt blade]

you can power vehicles with plut rods too without waste

[ornate saffron]

A drone over head is a good reminder to restock filters

[jagged nymph]

did it perhaps have something radioactive in it?

[jagged nymph]

you can just sink the plutonium rods

[unkempt blade]

that would make no sense at all in the context of this conversation about using plutonium rods as fuel

[jagged nymph]

huh

he said "A drone over head is a good reminder to restock filters"
so i assumed he meant the drone did radiation damage to him

[cold sierra]

Do Dimensional Depot have a storage capacity ?

[ebon marten]

yes

[jagged nymph]

kinda

the dimensional storage as a whole han only sotre one stack of each item

but in the mam you can upgrade that

to i think a max of 5 iirc

[quasi warren]

Unless modded ofc

If you are pc anyways

[cold sierra]

So if I understand, I can put a limited numbers of different items, but unlimited amount of one specific item.

[jagged nymph]

no

you can put every single item in there, but only 1 stack of each item can be stored in the cloud at a time

[quasi warren]

^

[cold sierra]

Oh okay, so to get multiple stacks of an item, I should either build another Depot or refill the Depot with conveyors from regular storages.

[jagged nymph]

no

the entire cloud storage system can only hold one stack of each item

the dimensional depots just upload stuff to the cloud

it doesnt matter how many depots you place

[cold sierra]

So what the point of having multiple Dimensional Depot ?

[jagged nymph]

so you can upload stuff faster

cause if you have only one of them and youre trying to upload all your items through it its gonna be really slow

[cold sierra]

Because there is only one conveyor port in the Depot.

[jagged nymph]

wel because the upload speed is capped

30/minute

or actually i think it starts at 15

but you can upgrade it in the mam

[vital forge]

I could never use a depot without upgrading it to speeeeeeed. Caterium wire and screws has been my only headache.

[cold sierra]

Yes it's 15/min

[west jackal]

i finally got mine to 60/min its so slow still

not to mention i dont have enough spheres for the depots everwhere i want them

[cold sierra]

Yeah 33 minutes to fill a stack of Wire

[west jackal]

also. dont try and upload everything with one depot

[vital forge]

there's tons of spheres in the world, so just need to do a hoverpack+powerlines trip

[jagged nymph]

i upload all building materials into the depot

[west jackal]

because as soon as there is 1 extra item in the depot that cant fit in dimension your screwed

[quasi warren]

240 a min a depot can upload btw

[west jackal]

sure. you should upload everything you might need

[vital forge]

Same, every item has a depot. (And 240 per minute speed)

[quasi warren]

I upload EVERYTHING. If I can.

[west jackal]

thats what i said

should

[cold sierra]

I think I'm gonna farm Mercer Spheres now. I'm sick of getting back to my base every 15 minutes cuz I'm empty.

[ornate saffron]

this is the way

[vital forge]

It's a good investment.

[distant bay]

I always like putting ammo/exploration supplies in my depot

[vital forge]

bring ladders if you dn't have jet/hoverpack!

[distant bay]

and concrete for foundation spam

[spare prism]

hiya

[distant bay]

anyone else rush foundations as soon as you have the materials for it

[oak nymph]

Is there a way to know the exact location of hard drive I'm done searching I just want that trophy

[jagged nymph]

of course

and then i rush concrete foundations in the awesome shop

[oak nymph]

Remaining hard drive

[jagged nymph]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

you can even upload your save file so it only shows ones you havnt collected

[oak nymph]

Where do I find my save file like how do I upload it

[cunning glade]

Should I make 16400 aluminum ingots a min?

[cold sierra]

Good question...

[cunning glade]

I'm thinking in-between 10k-16.4k

16k being the most I can make

I'm kinda tempted too just make it all

[hard mantle]

i think you should make 3 concrete and give it to me

[vital forge]

I'm going for 12000.

the math maths that way

[jagged nymph]

why do tou need 3 concrete

[hard mantle]

hungry

[oak nymph]

i mean where do i find my save file in my files

[cunning glade]

I can do that

[jagged nymph]

i forgot, just search through there until you find it

[cunning glade]

Are u keeping it in ingots and training it around or turning it straight into casings and sheets

[vital forge]

isn't it listed alphabetically by save name?

[vital forge]

So far keeping it in ingots.

[cunning glade]

That's what I'm thinking

Cuz it's already 985 buildings

So adding all of thoose on top is alot

[hard mantle]

i was watching a video last night and it was talking about aluminum in satisfactory and i must have been reallyyyy tired because i heard bauxite and i was like "i thought this game only had realistic(ish) ore in the game" i forgot bauxite was literally a real thing.

[spare prism]

"Satisfactory typically takes around 100 to 150+ hours to complete the main, tech-tree progression (reaching the final Phase/Tier) for an average, first-time player. Completionist playthroughs or building massive, optimized factories can easily exceed 200 to 300+ hours. Speedrunners can complete the game in under 20 hours. "

20 hours i wanna see them do that

[cunning glade]

Chat I may need 4 tracks I fear 2 train tracks may not be enough

[jagged nymph]

i mean i dont think sam ore is very realistic

[hard mantle]

excluding that but like yeah

you know what i mean

[cunning glade]

Ig in high traffic areas I could always switch too 4 tracks

[vital forge]

uhm... I'm at 350 hours and still in phase 4....

[acoustic bear]

I only deal in beauxite

[spare prism]

sorry your just slow

[cunning glade]

Nah making big builds takes forever

[vital forge]

Might be because of my 45 heavy modular frames per minute factory...

[acoustic bear]

that was me

[hard mantle]

dude my laptop has been getting worse and worse i swear its so slow now, i think i need to buy a new one or at this point just save up for a pc

[spare prism]

im 16 hours in

[cunning glade]

Like for example I'm gonna make 30 nuclear pasta a min

That's gonna be a big build

Same with 1500 time crystals a min

[spare prism]

blue prints

[cunning glade]

I made 50

[acoustic bear]

blow the fans out, repaste the thermal paste, reformat the OS, good as new

[vital forge]

blueprints are our friends...

[distant bay]

i hate aluminium production

[cunning glade]

I tbh don't use blueprints

[hard mantle]

whoss when where and who what now?

[spare prism]

im on that tier rn i need to get steel beams tho

[vital forge]

I love aluminium production!

[distant bay]

its SOOO annoying to deal with the water byproduct

[cunning glade]

I never know what too make so I always just start making the factory instead

[cunning glade]

Not really make it feeds itself u just have too kickstart it with some water

[acoustic bear]

those three actions will refresh your laptop

[vital forge]

oh you should! It's so easy to place big chunks of factory down, and remove if you n eed to. My aluminium modules is ... 3 blueprints? that's including the smelters...

[jagged nymph]

WHAT

[cunning glade]

Aluminum is really easy I made 5900 a min for my first factory

[hard mantle]

maybe bt this thing is like REALLY bad i cant even run satisfactory with nothing placed smoothly on LOW graphics

[jagged nymph]

i couldnt play this game without blueprints

[vital forge]

I've had no issues. 3 into 4 , sloppy, electrode scraps, 180 external water, keep it all separated, loop the water around on top, bob's your ucnle.

[cunning glade]

Ik I should but Everytime I go over too the blueprint I just draw a blank

[cunning glade]

I dislike electrode cuz it uses oil

I never leave enough oil left over

[jagged nymph]

just make a setup of like 8 constructors with a manifolded input and output with power poles connected and do the same with all other main machines

[vital forge]

I did 2 oil nodes woth for 2400 petroleum coke on the lake right next to the red forest. It's great.

[jagged nymph]

i couldnt live without that

[cunning glade]

I may have some oil left over but not much maybe 2k

[vital forge]

I jsut build what I would otherwise build outside the blueprint, in the blueprint, hit save, and place that where I would have built it anyways.

[jagged nymph]

turn it into a bunch of power

[cunning glade]

Fair

[cunning glade]

But I'm already making 800gw

And I still have too do nuclear

[hard mantle]

like my ram is only 8gb and i dont know if thats good i really know nothing about pcs and laptops and stuff and 4gb graphics card it says and it shows a 12th gen intel core i5 i got no idea @acoustic bear

[jagged nymph]

make it 1tw

[cunning glade]

Well I'm still planning on using all of the uranium on the map and doing a perfect loop with it but I have too wait till t9

[vital forge]

My 2400 petroleum coke is enough for all the bauxite in the world except one impure node, and takes 1200 oil. (I ofc overclock the oil source to full)

[cunning glade]

We shall see

[vital forge]

still, you can do the same with coal, and just do 240 water in stead of 180 from external water extractor.

[cunning glade]

Ig I could use it but limits where I can put it without training in oil

Idk we will see

Aluminum is next

I need drones working so I need aluminum

Rn making 100 computers and 20 super computers a min is my current factory im working on

[vital forge]

I did a fast and furious mini aluminium thing early on with coal and copper, 2 x 2 refineries, and just depot-ed everything.

think I might have under or overclocked part of that

[cunning glade]

Coal wise I'm using 8k for the factory for aluminum if I don't go with oil and then I'm using 30k a min for my diamonds so have too watch coal usage

[vital forge]

And all that without blueprints, you madman

[cunning glade]

I mean I did make a blueprint for a few splitters or mergers connected for assembler outputs

[hard mantle]

idk why but ai upscaling makes my game run so muchhhhh smoother and it doesnt look different so what does it even do

[cunning glade]

Runs the game at a lower resolution and then upscales it too the resolution u are playing at

[hard mantle]

oh alr

[cunning glade]

Yeah so u are no longer technically at native 1080p or 1440p or 4k but it still looks like it normally

[spice osprey]

How do I get rid of a massive boulder on top of a coal node I want to mine?

[jagged nymph]

thats literally the entire purpose of ai upscaling

[dense violet]

bombs

[weak cedar]

anyone be down to start a new world with me? i suck and want someome to play with

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[weak cedar]

mk

[hard mantle]

my bad i dont know what anything to do with graphics means

[jagged nymph]

i dont use any of the ai features because i dont want my game to be ai generated

[hard mantle]

i dont like ai either but if i turn it off my game freezes every 3 seconds for about 2 seconds

dude these animations are so peak

the constructor looks awesome

[floral bronze]

What is the third computer alternative? I have regular and crystal.

[mystic urchin]

Does fluid train station have head lift?

[vital forge]

caterium computer

[floral bronze]

how much computer p/m does it produce?

[vital forge]

I think it's 3.75 per minute, but don't quote me on it

[floral bronze]

damn thats good

[jagged nymph]

why does the items per minute matter?

[vital forge]

well ... I'm not sure, I'd have to log into the game to check

[jagged nymph]

just place more machines

[floral bronze]

because It will theoretically be cheaper resource wise

or at least thats how I will gas light myselkf

[vital forge]

I made that recipe computers next to my power plant, shipping in some caterium ingots, using the polymer resin that would otherwise be sinked. But if I was to make actual computer factory, I'd go with crystal computer I think.

[mystic urchin]

Nobody knows?

[vital forge]

No idea sorry

[floral bronze]

I had crystal computers in a factory but I feel like its hella resource demanding

[vital forge]

Given I've had my crappy little computer offshoot thing for a long time now, I've yet to make a factory for oscilators 😛

but it's coming up soon.

[twilit stag]

is there any way to check if a container is full and then send materials to the overflow? The problem I am having with overflow is that by the time it detects there's a bottleneck, there's no coming back

For example, I have an interdimensional storage and I pump in it different items, when I cant store anymore the belt freezes, and then the overflow function would redirect resources to the other belt channel, the problem is that the resource that generated the bottleneck cannot go backwards, so it stays at the interdimensional input forever and the rest of the items can never enter

[tall lantern]

no, use multiple depots

[vital forge]

for depots you need a depot per item. Sounds crazy, but it works.

[mystic urchin]

You don't want to send multiple items into a single depots for this exact reason

[vital forge]

... well, works if you got the spheres for it...

[tall lantern]

luckily spheres are plentiful

[mystic urchin]

There are enough spheres on the map for every item in the game

Just gotta find them

[twilit stag]

so there's no way to prevent an item that will bottleneck a depot from entering the belt

[mystic urchin]

No

[twilit stag]

that hurts

[tall lantern]

correct, once it's on the belt it's too late, and you need a belt connecting to the depot

[vital forge]

there's internal storage in the depot that has nowhere else to go.

[twilit stag]

it would be awesome if the could introduce "dump excess" in storages like industrial storages so the excess would go to a differentbelt

[vital forge]

I suppose you could do a "dump in storage" that goes through a heap of smart splitters, each going to their own depot

[tall lantern]

we've already got solutions for that though (smart splitter)

[vital forge]

but dunno if that's quite what you want.

[tall lantern]

it's only the specific case of a depot with multiple items that's the issue

[vital forge]

like, place a storage, belt out, through smart splitter after smart splitter, and then dump excess back into a storage at the front in case you throw in something that doesn't have a depot

[twilit stag]

the thing is that now I have a setup of 3 freighter stations, where each one receives 3 items, then a smart splitter spliters them

[pure tendon]

is packaged biofeul better than packaged turbofeul for jetpack

[tall lantern]

different, not better or worse

[twilit stag]

but it seems like im gonna have to do freighter platfrom/resource

[vital forge]

but ofc, would be a waste of depots, since you can just slap depots in your factories where you got overflow. (or even makee a small dedicated one for something like iron parts)

[tall lantern]

and what's the problem with that?

[vital forge]

try both, see what you like. I like the longevity of biofuel.

[twilit stag]

the problem is that each belt on the smart splitter goes to depot

[tall lantern]

sushi to separated storage is fine. Sushi to single depot is not

[twilit stag]

and if the depot of 1 resource is full, the rest of the items wont go trhough

[tall lantern]

just need an overflow sink

[vital forge]

ye can sink it into the awesome sink

[twilit stag]

No i cant because i have no way of dumping excess resources

[tall lantern]

...that's what the sink is for

[twilit stag]

I mean

to send them, cause it will cause bottleneck

I dunno how to explain it without an image

[vital forge]

put one in the screenshots channel, and link it here

[tall lantern]

it can't cause a bottleneck that wasn't already there unless you something silly like send 3 belts worth of stuff to 1 sink

[vital forge]

(I assume you can do that? or no?)

[tall lantern]

if you were already sending them in on one belt, then the sink can't bottleneck because it's still at most one belt's worth

[tall lantern]

if anything this'd be the realm of #1038092680493801533

[vital forge]

ye suppose

[twilit stag]

ok im gonna post one thread

[tall lantern]

pretty sure you're either overcomplicating this lol

[unkempt blade]

one uploader per item type + overflow sink them

[leaden ruin]

this is probably a very dumb quesstion but I read the wiki and didn't see it address explicitly. so to be clear, a regular (non-priority) merger of 3 belts will take turns taking an item from each input belt, so if there is items always on every belt, it will alternate and never prefer one belt over another belt? this is critical so that i'm not over-consuming from these train stations

[native tapir]

With a regular old merger yeah

[leaden ruin]

yay

which means with an out of 300 it will attempt to take at 100/minute from each input. if one input falls behind the others pick up the slack. ok. balancing this is gonna be very interesting.

oh boy........

[dense violet]

you can always just let the belts self balance?

[leaden ruin]

meaning?

[dense violet]

as long as you have enough parts per min in a system, and a fast enough belt, you don't have to manually balance things

the belts will send what needs to go to it's spots.

[dense violet]

for example - this perfectly feeds 120 ore pm to these 4 smelters https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1456102935988539496/image.png?ex=69986749&is=699715c9&hm=02da3df9826b10e8dea176bd1190ec385cd15e892cd85c7ab665d86e5c5a30d9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[tall lantern]

or just make sure you're only sending what you need - if you need 300/min, bring in 300/min

[leaden ruin]

to clariify the situation, i have a number of train stations that i'm pulling outputs from, and if I let it self-balance, then it will try to pull a ful 2400 from a station which is the max possible. because there is an unfixable downtime when a train is unloading, that will break the system (even with buffers) because when unloading the station won't empty into the buffer meaning i'm losing those 10-15 seconds of 2400ppm, and over time that empties the buffer. so I need to guarantee that from any given station (2x1200 lines) i'm never pulling a complete 2400

[dense violet]

you never want to try doing this in the first place

you probably want to stick to about 600ppm per platform

[leaden ruin]

😮

[dense violet]

you could aim for like 1200 ppm per platform, with 2 trains doing the same route?

but if you're simply overflowing a bunch of crap from platform to platform it's going to be extremely obnoxious to manage on the other end

[tall lantern]

the given rule of thumb is usually 1 belt per platform, but I also usually go lower. But it does rather depend on the route round trip time

[dense violet]

with mk6 belts it also changes up because 1 train car at a platform will fill up VERY fast from 1200 ppm

so either longer trains with 600ppm each or 2 trains doing the same route handling 1200ppm on a platform

[unkempt blade]

depends heavily on stack size and how many trains you're using for that route

[leaden ruin]

it's 6 freights and quickwire, the full roundtrip includes enough quickwire on the train to sustain the consumer as long as i don't go at full throttle on the consumer end like above., but even then it probably won't be enough. as in I imagine I need to make sure that the 10-15 second unload time is completely accounted for, otherwise it'll still run out.

[dense violet]

it's 27 second load on each end

[leaden ruin]

damn

[dense violet]

You would probably have an easier time moving the ingots instead of the wire, far fewer parts per min

[leaden ruin]

far too late for that

[dense violet]

technically it's like 27.02 seconds or something?

[leaden ruin]

i see

[dense violet]

well in this case I would probably do like 1200 wire pm on each platform

wire stacks much higher so you won't need the 2nd train

unless it's a CRAZY long trip

[leaden ruin]

it's a ~6-minute round trip (including loading and unloading), and the train holds enough to last 7.5 minutes

[unkempt blade]

the good news is since wire is 500 stack size you can probably go waaaay higher than 600ppm

[dense violet]

that'll be fine, like factory said , 500 stack size

[leaden ruin]

right

[dense violet]

send a dedicated number per min to each platform, then, on the other end, process that number in sections.

that way you don't need to do complex balancing

[unkempt blade]

if you want to do some reading/math https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput is a good read

[leaden ruin]

27.08s according to this page

[dense violet]

sounds a bout right

[solemn forum]

this may be a silly question, what region of the map do people mean by "blue crater" i see so much about

[dense violet]

bottom right

giant ugly ass crater

[tall lantern]

not even blue, it's more purple

[dense violet]

more blue tint all around.

[solemn forum]

i think i circled entirely around it and missed it then lmao, much appreciated

got a giant black spot down there, that's probably where its at

[tall lantern]

it borders the map edge

[white dawn]

This map is useful for getting to know the commonly used names btw: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#/media/File:Biome_Map.jpg

[tall lantern]

it's also got some nice fauna (though not as nice as the red forest and the swamp)

[white dawn]

(though obvs that's spoilery)

[solemn forum]

i see, thank you guys for the info

[leaden ruin]

reading this, is the following true:

if I'm expecting to consuming 2400/min from a station (which as we established is a poorly conceived idea), then in the 27-second downtime i need ~1083.199 parts buffered so that the belts don't empty. If i'm taking less than 2400, however, this number goes down, and in particular the buffer will fill up at whatever rate I'm not consuming, so if I take 2350 it will fill up at 50/minute. In the RtD which for me is 6 minutes, that's 300 wire, which is still nowhere near the amount that needs to buffer to account for the 27s. even still, since i'm not taking the full 2400, the buffer will never empty anyway because it's being filled at 2400 by the station from freight and always filling faster than emptying.

SO, again if my train cars are full and the RtD is shorter than the time it takes to empty them, as long as I am not taking the full 2400 it should stil work fine, albeit does mean i have to give myself a headache with the balancing.

[tall lantern]

if you're expecting to consume 2400/min from a station then you've already failed

[leaden ruin]

bruh

😭 my soul...

[tall lantern]

literally impossible due to the load/unload

[leaden ruin]

this is what I have now discovered and am aiming to stop doing

[tall lantern]

to do it, you'd need to be able to sustain both belts from the station constantly, but you can't, because they shut off during the load/unload

[jaunty drum]

Found a weird radiation spot on the map
Like
It’s persisting even when there isn’t any uranium or the big rad hog there

[tall lantern]

the buffers help smooth out the [un]load pause, but they can't negate it

[unkempt blade]

I'm outside with my dog but I'd think you'd probably only be hitting 2400/min for very short routes with very high stack size

but this is per station segment, so just make the train longer if you have to hit that amount

[tall lantern]

from another angle: how are you expecting to get the extra 1083.199 in, on belts that are already doing the full 1200/min

[unkempt blade]

platforms have 2 input conveyors so that part is doable

[tall lantern]

this is factoring that in (1200 per belt, 2400 total)

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok

yeah the absolute max for one platform is going to be 2400/min and will only go down from there depending on route time

[tall lantern]

it is physically impossible to get a full 2400/min from one platform, the actual maximum varies by route length, stack size, train count, phase of moon network conditions. Hence the rules of thumb of half a belt, or one belt, or some amount that's not 2 full belts

[leaden ruin]

this is quite unfortunate

[tall lantern]

good news, easily solveable. behold, 2 platforms

[leaden ruin]

you mean 12 platforms

which is

[tall lantern]

if you were moving like 12000/min, sure

[leaden ruin]

i am

[floral bronze]

how does one wrap their head around through the long ass recipe for super computers

[jagged nymph]

work backwards through it

[floral bronze]

I feel like it would be a waste of resources if I devote one node for each step

[leaden ruin]

funnily enough, that is the factory i am battling this train shenanigans with

[dense violet]

like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=DhP2oqJBTCzNvloAUtAz

just generated when you asked

can edit the recipes very quickly if needed

[trim void]

im curious about something, did the heavy oil residue alternate recipe change at all? im seeing it different than what's in my game in most sites (mine produces 20/m and sites say 40/m)

[unkempt blade]

it's the old "how do you eat an elephant" ||one bite at a time||

[floral bronze]

if I am to go one at a time then I will waste a crap ton of nodes no?

[dense violet]

here, super computers using nothing but oil and caterium https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=eJ8JeEeTnv8XCSaREC8C

[dense violet]

how so ? just over flow extra someplace if you want

[tall lantern]

you sure you're looking at the right recipe

[dense violet]

nope

[peak wasp]

Chat what's the best recipe for rubber and plastic it's my current bottleneck rn

[trim void]

pretty sure, but something weird, when i changed the update version to 5 on satisfactory tools it went back to 20 (wiki gg and version 4 say it's 40 though)

[dense violet]

is best just the most from oil?

[peak wasp]

Yes but when you consider power for late game you run out fast

[oak nymph]

I got a question I'm making about 6million point per minute and I want the golden nut I have 400coupon in reserved and each coupon need a heck lot of point like 20000000 should I just wait for the other 600 or I could build a factory to speed things up and if I should build a factory what item should it produces

[dense violet]

oil to HOR alt to Diluted fuel to recycled plastic/rubber

[floral bronze]

I just dont understand how I will actually go around using the left overs to then create more factories to make later products

[tall lantern]

you don't have to use leftovers

[peak wasp]

Is that actually the most efficient? I use diluted fuel alot for rocket fuel

[floral bronze]

I could just be like really over complicating it with like 20000 outcomes

[tall lantern]

there are many nodes

[dense violet]

as mentioned before - you can use a smart splitter to over flow ore someplace if you like

or just leave it, there's more resources on the map than you can use

[dense violet]

yes , that's why I told you

also use nuclear. Basically uses no oil

[peak wasp]

I h aven't done nuclear power yet I'm worried about radiation build up

[dense violet]

put iodine filters in a depot - never worry about it again

radiation is truly a non issue

[peak wasp]

thx for tip, now i have to figure out how to evenly line up blenders and refineries

[tall lantern]

there is no update 5 on Tools, but if that was a typo for 0.8, looks fine to me

[dense violet]

for rubber / plastic?

[peak wasp]

and rocket fuel yeah

[trim void]

like the experimental one

[dense violet]

make completely different and segregated factories

[tall lantern]

the what

[peak wasp]

I figured my last play through I had to layer up the fuel power planets

[granite olive]

henlo fellow spagort artists

[trim void]

https://u4.satisfactorytools.com/production this?? oh so ? https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[dense violet]

this is the current version https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[tall lantern]

how do you even find that version

[trim void]

i have no idea i just looked up tools 😭

[dense violet]

dw bout it xD just use the current version

[trim void]

so the correct one is the 20/m right?

[tall lantern]

for the alt? no, 40

[dense violet]

here's the wiki https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Heavy_Oil_Residue

the Heavy Oil Alt uses 30 oil pm and makes 40 HOR pm

[trim void]

hm why's mine different in game then

[tall lantern]

...are you playing a vaguely recent version 😛

and, are you sure you're looking at the right recipe, and not in a machine with non-default clocking?

[trim void]

placed a fresh refinery and the recipe was different

like same name different ratio

[storm garnet]

well hello

[dense violet]

theres other recipes that ALSO make HOR and other things at different rates

[tall lantern]

yep, rubber takes 30 oil to make 20 hor, resin takes 60 oil for 20hor

[dense violet]

but afaik the actual HOR dedicated alt has never changed

[tall lantern]

hence

[trim void]

hrm

well im trying to make like rocket fuel or ionized fuel, any best recipe routes maybe ? i was thinking of using the residue to make turbo fuel directly

[dense violet]

like with all alt recipes - you have to say what you want specifically for 'best'

[tall lantern]

wouldn't go for ionised personally, but depends what materials you value

[dense violet]

I mean I wouldn't go for RF either

[tall lantern]

heh fair. but at least RF does actually get you more net power

ionised is just far too expensive in energy

[trim void]

need it for something specific, dont personally use it for my jetpack or anything lol

i need 80 ionized fuel /m

[dense violet]

whatever is convenient then - resource alocation and usage will be almsot nothing at that rate

[tall lantern]

if it's a vanity project rather than for power then do what you like, "because I want to"is fine

[peak wasp]

My last playthrough I made it to automating power shards, good stuff.

[trim void]

kk can i get to uh rocket fuel then?

[dense violet]

huh?

[trim void]

same 80, like a good recipe line

[dense violet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Rocket_Fuel

2 recipes for it. They are much the same

1 skips a processing step ?

[trim void]

so use the alt one?

[dense violet]

if you want? much of a muchness when making that little

none of the chains really allow you to remove resource types

[trim void]

alr, should i use hor to make the fuel or go directly from crude oil

[dense violet]

again, you're makign so little just use whatever is easiest

unless you care about squeezing a few oil pm

[trim void]

most compact?

[stone quiver]

I wouldn't automate them, you can't sink them and only one way to reduce the number you have. Make a box and call it good

Or at least only store so many

[jagged nymph]

i need to choose a place for my steel production

hmmm.........

[dense violet]

at that low production probably teh base recipes

[trim void]

alright

is rocket fuel better to use in the fuel generators?

[hybrid nymph]

It has come to this

I'm finally doing it today

I'm going to take The Princeton University English proficiency exam so that I can be a part-time English professor

I've taken 10 English courses in my time at college

And it's open book, Open notes, open resource

I have to get an 80% or higher to pass

[dense violet]

define better?
better than what?

[trim void]

does it make more power?

[dense violet]

more than?

all fuel generators make the same power

[dense violet]

every single fuel step is just adding more resources to fuel EFFECTIVELY just turning whatever you're throwing into it, into more oil
because you could always just make more diluted fuel if you wanted

[crude holly]

Do you guys use other peoples blueprints or do everything your own?

[trim void]

so rocket fuel = each generator essentially uses less fuel

[dense violet]

or you just pad out other resources into rocket fuel

[crude holly]

I feel like I'm cheating using some elses build.

[dense violet]

honeslty not much point playing the game if you're jsut building other people's factories.

just edit in a megaprint and be 'done'

[crude holly]

Well I mean like I saw this cool manifold design that I wanted to copy because I don't get how they stacked them

[dense violet]

probably mods

[crude holly]

Not an entire factory or something

[fluid estuary]

Why do I have slow mode in this server I’m confused

[stuck dagger]

We pissed off ADA by not saving the day fast enough so the server is in permanent slow mode

[fluid estuary]

lol

So everyone has slow mode on? Not just me?

[dense violet]

most channels have 5 sec

[fluid estuary]

Mkay happy it’s not just me :/

[stone quiver]

Steel isn't something that you would centralize imo... but you can find a bunch of coal. Iron is everywhere

[quartz mango]

ADA is going to kill me

[jagged nymph]

yeah just my starter place for the building materials

[quartz mango]

I did not know about worldgrid until after my main base was under construction

I am never gonna end up Saving The Day

[granite olive]

worldgrid too hard. i just attach everything to starter base and cut it away when i get there, unless it just doesnt matter.

[quartz mango]

hehe

[jagged nymph]

wdym too hard

[quartz mango]

you hold ctrl

[jagged nymph]

you just hold ddown ctrl

[quartz mango]

if anything it is harder NOT to use worldgrid

[jagged nymph]

fr

[quartz mango]

guys...

satisfactory is the black tar heroin of gaming

[granite olive]

🍻 mostly buti build outward slowly and typically dont tap r1 to make the build in that space worldGrid

[quartz mango]

With TF2 as an exception, Satisfactory is my most played game on steam at 245.1 hours

[sonic sandal]

yo. got any tips

[quartz mango]

i do

[sonic sandal]

tell me

[quartz mango]

are you just starting satisfactory

[sonic sandal]

mid game

[quartz mango]

ah

do you use worldgrid

[sonic sandal]

yes

[granite olive]

take your time. that goes at every level and every tier. enjoy the romp through the levels with what youre creating

[sonic sandal]

ok

[quartz mango]

good, and silly soldier's advice is good

[sonic sandal]

ok

[quartz mango]

also avoid duping cause (in my humble opinion) it makes the game less fun

[west jackal]

Whats worldgrid

[sonic sandal]

huh

[quartz mango]

the golden nut was a glorious high

[sonic sandal]

i dont understand

whats dumping

[dense violet]

world grid is a trap anyway

very restrictive to your designs , provides no real benefits

[sonic sandal]

how many items per miute should i have for phase 2

/the assembly parts

[dense violet]

whatever you want

[sonic sandal]

alright

[granite olive]

its where you use glitches to get things.
if youre gonna do that. just use the cheat menu.

"give item" and all that.

[quartz mango]

Duping is short for duplicating

[sonic sandal]

wellllll. you dont get achevments

[quartz mango]

?

you still can get the achievements whill duping

[granite olive]

but we will judge

[sonic sandal]

if you use advanced game settings you dont get it

[quartz mango]

harshly

[sonic sandal]

see

[granite olive]

felony grade side eye but we wont be mad

[quartz mango]

public stoning at dawn

[granite olive]

not so much. more like the old hobbit at the beginning of LOTR who gave gandalf the stink eye

[sonic sandal]

nah i iant gonna do that

[quartz mango]

yes

[granite olive]

ngl tho brain wants to dupe mercerballs just because i seem to have cleared the ENTIRE west coast of them and id like to mercer box some things and im a little tipsy and dont feel like looking

[quartz mango]

invest in radio tower

[sonic sandal]

that makes sense. same with somersloops

but still

[granite olive]

but the 5g 😭 🍻

[quartz mango]

i understand duping, i just judge harshly

[sonic sandal]

yah

[hybrid nymph]

I added 2 more to make finding somersloops and Mercer spheres easier

[quartz mango]

the 5g will give you uber autism

[sonic sandal]

lol

[hybrid nymph]

I added the void spheres mod, which allows you to craft Summer sloops and Mercer spheres

[quartz mango]

the uber autism allows for hyperfixation on Saving The Day

oh lmao

[sonic sandal]

but id you realy need them

[granite olive]

i already have that. i can even cheat on the diagnosis test. if i get any worse ill see molecules moving

[sonic sandal]

if

[quartz mango]

MORE

[hybrid nymph]

And I added the AWESOME artifacts mod, which allows you to buy artifacts from the awesome shop

[quartz mango]

ooohh

sounds fun actually

[sonic sandal]

is mods cheating?

[hybrid nymph]

They're not cheap though. Summer sloops cost 30 tickets, and Mercer spheres cost 20 tickets

[granite olive]

THE AIR. IT VIBRATES

[quartz mango]

no they are not, technically

WEAVE THE TAPESTRY

[granite olive]

no. only abusing the code. plus in all the real talk. we dont really care. we are just being silly. play how you want.

[sonic sandal]

i like that mod

nah im playing vinila

[warm finch]

abuse of the code is a reportable offense

[granite olive]

worst some will do is go "hehe you cheated"

[warm finch]

we donot condone violence here

[crude holly]

I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT #screenshots message

[quartz mango]

i am angry at my stupid server not working

[granite olive]

it burnt the roast and i gave it 5 across the face for being a laggy mess

[hybrid nymph]

I put together a little mod pack if any of you want to download it. I call it Vanilla + as it just adds in a few little things into the game but it still keeps the vanilla feel of the game, as opposed to heavily modding the game

[lethal bluff]

guys could anyone help im a newbie and have noo clue whjy a thing doesnt work

[sonic sandal]

expain

[quartz mango]

alright, what do you need help with

[warm finch]

sure we can help. doesn't mean we want to. or that we will....

[lethal bluff]

my coal generator just shuts off while it doesnt use more power than in produces just shuts off

[hybrid nymph]

It's only 12 mods, and they're all little mods. Like: The fuel chainsaw, vanilla plus building upgrades, more elevator buttons, awesome artifacts, void spheres, balanced craftable power slugs, and things like that

[sonic sandal]

ohhhhhhhh

maybe all try it

[warm finch]

That is not how coal power works my friend. coal generators burn steady regardless of how little power you use of it. It is either not getting enough coal, enough water, or too much power is be used than is being produced.

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[hybrid nymph]

You should change your name to "God's perfect idiot" 😜

[quartz mango]

likely due to water

[sonic sandal]

yah thats only for biofuel

[lethal bluff]

it says it only uses 187 while production is 197, but it want to use 113m3 water

how do i get more into it xd it has only 50m3 inside of

[warm finch]

each coal plant uses 45 m3/cycle of water. you need to check your math for water

[sonic sandal]

also it nees to be balenced

espesaily for tha water

[warm finch]

@lethal bluff post a screenshot of your pipe and coal plant set up in #screenshots

[sonic sandal]

coal can be and manafold

[dense violet]

wdym 'balanced' for the water?

[sonic sandal]

because water behaves wairdly

[lethal bluff]

uff ur prolly not gonna like it xd

[sonic sandal]

so its hard to use manafolds

[dense violet]

you effectively can't load balance fluids

[sonic sandal]

roughly

[lethal bluff]

w8 can we just go into vc and i can stream it or sum

easier nah?

[dense violet]

no, either something is load balanced or not - it can't be 'roughly'

[warm finch]

it's not about what we like, it's about identifying the problem you're having with your coal generator plant

[hybrid nymph]

With Mk1 pipes you can put down 6 coal generators

That setup is using Mk2 pipes

[warm finch]

I am deaf so VC won't work for me. but I'm happy to join your game if you want

[hybrid nymph]

You're deaf?

[warm finch]

No I'm blind

[lethal bluff]

sure

[hybrid nymph]

Like Lou Forigno

[warm finch]

dm me your game session

[lethal bluff]

dm?

[reef basin]

why in there? #1038092680493801533 much better

[reef basin]

no, much better to write it in #1038092680493801533

[warm finch]

right, habit, sorry

[jagged nymph]

why dont people say a beanshot

instead of an espresso shot

[warm finch]

bean juice better

[jagged nymph]

ho

cause then if you can say you took a screenshot of a beanshot

[granite olive]

its one in the same \o/

[sinful roost]

Phase 4 complete!!!

[granite olive]

[hooray gif]

[elfin monolith]

Nicely done!

[warm finch]

now the REAL game starts lol

[dense violet]

still got one more phase of tutorial

[quartz mango]

Yall seen Reggie's vid on satisfactory

it is actually peak, cannot reccomend enough

[dense violet]

never heard of them

[quartz mango]

yeah, he usually does not do games like satisfactory

however, his vid on it is so peak

astounding editing

[dense violet]

eh seems fine. Less interesting than LGIO for silliness

[ebon fossil]

hey uh chat what should i do if i uh lost my stuff on the other side of the map.. with no way back?

im pretty early game ish

so no hypertubes to fling my way around

[dense violet]

reload save or just craft more equipment

[ebon fossil]

😭 welp might as well

[west jackal]

do you guys bild a foundation platform from your main base all the way to every base so that they are connected? or do you just hope for the best that you can get them connected nicely with trains/roads

[dense violet]

you don't need foundations the whole way to connect rail up? or roads

[hybrid nymph]

Roads? Where we're going, We don't need roads!

[dense violet]

even if you DO want actual foundations the whole way, you can just do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX_2i8T3Dbw

[hybrid nymph]

I just use trains

And then I use foundations for the floors for my base

I used to place my machines directly on the ground but it's easier to organize them if you place them on foundations

[west jackal]

i just meant, if i wanted a road, wouldnt it need to be on the same like "grid" as the other factories

[covert quarry]

i have a question; i need an input of 1900 screws per minute but even mark 6 cant handle that. Lets say i would use mark 5 belts which can only transport 780 per minute, would it still work? or would i have to use splitters in order for it to work correctly? i have posted a picture in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

no?

[west jackal]

then wont their be a gap

[dense violet]

look at the video linked
Keeping everything ot a 90 degree angle grid is awful for design and generally not helpful

[hybrid nymph]

I don't know how to help you there

It looks like you need to redesign your factory if Mark 5 belts won't cut it

[quartz mango]

Let's Game It Out is extremely goofy as well, I just think I like the more structured silliness of Reggie. Although LGIO is the greatest of all time

[warm finch]

@lethal bluff

[reef basin]

next time, the question in #1038092680493801533 is enough and no need to post here as well

[covert quarry]

heavy frames are a pain

[stone quiver]

I can't think of any single build that requires 1900 screw/min, you may want to write it more clearly. Is it 1200 and 700 etc. just split the conveyors and machines. One conveyor can't handle 1900 though

[west jackal]

where is painted beam unlocked at

[covert quarry]

yeah dumb question i know🤦

[hybrid nymph]

AWESOME SHOP I believe

You need about 300 tickets to unlock everything in the AWESOME shop

Other than the pioneering awards

[feral jay]

I just checked, I have 963 unprinted tickets

[hybrid nymph]

I got 300 tickets And I was able to unlock all of the building parts

[feral jay]

I might be able to buy the golden nut

[hybrid nymph]

Almost

[feral jay]

Got a few in a storage box somewhere

[hybrid nymph]

I'm going to put a mod in for that that multiplies my AWESOME Sink points

[feral jay]

I'm up to about 1.5m awesome points a minute so far this save

[hybrid nymph]

I already got 300 tickets legit, so I think that's good enuff

Time to cheat lol 😆

[west jackal]

dang. maybe i should sink a bunchof sam things

[feral jay]

Sink all the things

[west jackal]

too much work

[feral jay]

Every factory I'm building this save runs at 100% all the time, and everything not used gets sunk

[hybrid nymph]

Try sinking space elevator parts, especially things like adaptive control units

Adaptive control units are worth 86,000 points each

[feral jay]

eh I just sink everything

It really works with this "no machine can ever idle" challenge

[low grove]

Hello, Im a new player, around 70h in and I find myself jumping between different factory designs. I want to stick with one so what's in your guys opinion a design that will be good for a beginner?

[feral jay]

(except my FICSMAS factory lol)

[feral jay]

That, sir, is the game's central question

[dense violet]

keep experimenting - you're basically in a tutorial

[feral jay]

It helps to keep in mind that this is a sandbox game that doesn't punish mistakes

Well except for falling from a great height with less than full hit points

[hybrid nymph]

Because you're figuring thing out, your first factory is going to be very inefficient because you're just learning, so what you need to do is figure out what is a good setup

[feral jay]

"Biscuit out"... I like that term. I'm stealing it

[hybrid nymph]

That was a typo but yes

[west jackal]

building circle factories, sometimes the refiners arent in the exact same spot and it kinda bugs me

[hybrid nymph]

Apparently "because you're figuring out", came out as "biscuit out"

[feral jay]

Hahaha it really works though

[low grove]

I'v actually played a lot of Factorio, where I sticked with a megabase. Right now I went from outpost / modular to a warehouse design and besides the issue of splitting between different "consumers" I do dig it over modular.

[feral jay]

The big difference between Factorio and this game is that this is in three dimensions

It takes a lot of Factorio playes quite some time to break out of the 2D thinking Factorio forces you into

[low grove]

Yeah, for me it makes it more difficult to actually setup transporting resources and as I said before splitting output between consumers

[dawn mist]

Is there really any reason for me to make compacted coal aside from shoving it into a refinery to make turbofuel?

[dense violet]

no reason to make turbo fuel either

[floral bronze]

is plastic better to be made with alternate heavy oil residue or residual plastic?

[feral jay]

I have personally never used it for anything else, but compacted steel ingots have some use cases

[dawn mist]

You're gonna end up making it either way. Just a matter of making use of it.

[reef basin]

that depends how you define better

[floral bronze]

I need more plastic.

[hazy topaz]

yall what should I name my rotor and reinforced iron plate factory

[dense violet]

then oil to HOR to diluted fuel to recycled plastic

[merry sand]

hiya all, ive encountered a very scary graphical bug and i was wondering where i could post it for help? the QA site doesn't allow video uploading

[feral jay]

"The Iron Curtain"

[hybrid nymph]

Okay unfortunately as much as I would like to stay here I have other business to attend to

[hazy topaz]

yo thats peak

[hybrid nymph]

I have to take and pass the Princeton English proficiency exam, so that I can get accepted into their university

[feral jay]

That's my GenX memory being useful lol

[dawn mist]

If you wanna talk circles, I know where to go.

Look up "the body is round".

[dense violet]

I have lots of circles , you do too

[feral jay]

Speaking of which, have you posted a showcase recently? I alwways love your builds

[floral bronze]

how do I make recycled plastic from diluted fuel?

is that an alternative recipe?

[stone quiver]

Yes diluted fuel is. You would go crude -> HOR -> fuel -> rubber/plastic in a loop and you basically turn X crude into X rubber and X plastic

[floral bronze]

dang im missing an alternate recipe then

[stone quiver]

Diluted fuel is OP

[merry sand]

i agree, i love it

[feral jay]

I'm doubling my turbofuel powerplant to 1200 turbofuel/min right now, based off diluted fuel

[warm finch]

have you tried rocket fuel?

[merry sand]

i posted my diluted fuel plant in #design-and-architecture if you wanna see

[stone quiver]

Though this game leans a bit heavily on "refinery + water + resource = more"

[feral jay]

In previous saves yeah, it's for my next powerplant built on this one

I've been trying various designs for turbofuel powerplants that push pipe capacity to the max, as an exercise

Knowing all the while that using gas instead of liquid would solve 90% of my issues lol

[stone quiver]

Max capacity very painful unless you saturate the system before startup

Pipes are the enemy

[dense violet]

I honestly have not properly built a new fancy thing in like 2 years :\

[feral jay]

Even just saturating the system is problematic with large builds

[dense violet]

like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Q2Ez43dwAoorzZXFIZ1p

[feral jay]

aww, damn

[warm finch]

just takes a while lol

[dense violet]

yeah lack of brain and kinda wanting some older mods to update and other games

[stone quiver]

You mean you have trouble saturating?

[feral jay]

No I mean sometimes, it just doesn't want to saturate, and no matter how long you wait, the pipes just don't fill up. Or, they fill up, but then when you crank everything to 100%, you can't keep them full

This is only ever a problem when you're torturing yourself with 600/min pipe systems, to be fair

[floral bronze]

600 plastic per minute from 200 crude oil is jaw dropping

[stone quiver]

It's not as bad with gas, but yeah I run my 600 plant at like 595

[floral bronze]

I was out here about to use like triple the oil for 380

[feral jay]

I'm on a mission to do it at 600 right now

595 would be so much stupidly easier

[dense violet]

that chain is something like 450% the output of the base plastic recipe.

[dense violet]

you can also use diluted packaged fuel if you don't have blenders yet

[floral bronze]

I have blenders but my aluminum production is at 0 right now

the more worrying part are the 2 locked alternate recipes im missing

[dense violet]

aluminium is always useful , mk5 belts

[dense violet]

better go out hunting 🙂

[west jackal]

what is you guys opinion. i have 21 refineries in a circle. (ill add ss hold on) and i need 25 for plastic 5 for rubber 5 for residual fuel and 3 for petroleum coke. I think it would look nicer if i just power enough of them to get to those numbers. however this would take ... a lot of my current slugs. is it worth it? should i do it? or just make another layer of refineries? im worried because of movign fluids up and down

[floral bronze]

trying to make a super computer factory first

[feral jay]

There are other games?

[dense violet]

get more slugs 🙂

[reef basin]

your choice

slugs are infinite though

[dense violet]

Get the recipes first and use that super computer link I shared earlier

[feral jay]

Slugs are infinite in theory, but not practically

Shards are infinite though

[west jackal]

i tried adding link to screenshot but it said it contains content blocked by the server...?
#screenshots message

thats what the current layer of factory looks like

[reef basin]

that doesn't change that they are "infinite"

[west jackal]

are slugs infinite? i thought only the shards are

[feral jay]

This one? Looks kinda... skin toned? It could be a pr0n filter? #screenshots message

[jagged nymph]

huh?

[reef basin]

(and given that they are talking about "slugs" in terms of overclocking, we all know what we are talking about)

[stone quiver]

Slugs are shards

[reef basin]

both are

[jagged nymph]

oh wait i see

[jagged nymph]

how are slugs infinite?

[feral jay]

Doggos bring slugs, so they are technically infinite

[west jackal]

wdym p filter..? i just took a picture 🙁

[reef basin]

doggos can bring them

[west jackal]

oh right

[jagged nymph]

oh well yeah technically

[feral jay]

You mentioned your post got blocked, I thought maybe because it was basically skin toned and maybe there's a porn filter on this server

[west jackal]

oh. the lighting was weird and made it close to skin tone. i understand

[feral jay]

haha yes there are multiple values of infinity, both in theory and in practice. Greeny is correct, slugs are infinite.

(given infinite time)

[stone quiver]

Either way don't worry about shards , you'll have more than enough. Do it how you want it to look and overclock it up later

[feral jay]

I haven't unlocked the shard recipes yet this save and I have over a thousand stockpiled shards

[dense violet]

yeah there's like 5000 shards from slugs on the map

[feral jay]

I also generally don't overclock, it's the exception and not the rule for me

[stone quiver]

I'd rather build 40% as much. Gives me cleaner builds and more time to do other stuff

[feral jay]

If I need to balance things, I'll overclock a single machine rather than adding another and underclocking it, but that's just so the indicator light is white and it's much easier to see at a glance which machine is not like the others

[stone quiver]

I prefer factories that do a certain thing and not just "let's amass all the resources in the map and making 470 constructors " . I understand most players just like scale

[feral jay]

I like the scale of the map and I like to use all of it, so I have smaller factories much more spread out. It's a different kind of "scale".

[warm finch]

I ike trains

[feral jay]

Plus my 2070 can't really handle megafactories, there's that too

[native tapir]

You can always build walls around the entire map to make it qualify as a megafactory

I did this and it took.... actually not as long as you'd think

[feral jay]

That does not surprise me

Oh hey here's a question, what's a good use for petcoke? I have SHITLOADS of petcoke that I'm just sinking right now

[native tapir]

#design-and-architecture message

[feral jay]

Yeah that's cheating

[west jackal]

im using petroleum coke as coal for tempered copper in my electronics factory

[warm finch]

!wikisearch manifold

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=manifold

[warm finch]

@lethal bluff

[west jackal]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Y2lcooqzedOlVdrFArYX

[feral jay]

ooh, to boost copper production

Maybe I could build out a copper ingot plant using allthis petcoke

[west jackal]

on a side note. my diluted fuel plant normally sinks it all 🙂

just thought it was cool so i wanted to point it out

[feral jay]

No that's useful, I never thought of it

And I definitely have the petcoke to spare

[crude holly]

Having 50 hours in a save and not having legit anything done is so crazy

[warm finch]

welcome to satisfactory! lol

[native tapir]

Hello, I have 1300 hours and have not done anything legit.

[crude holly]

Currently just trying to set up automation for the starter items to be put into depots

Also want to make a frame and a motor factory nearby

Also the struggle of trying to not make everything look buttfuck ugly and also leave myself room in the future to dump everything into a sink when it overflows

;-;

[feral jay]

Hello, I have 3,900 hours and I still don't understand fluid dynamics.

[crude holly]

Wait its the real Doug

[native tapir]

Hello, yes.

Please do let me know if there are fake dougs though

[crude holly]

I will o7

[west jackal]

how serious is running pipes at max speed really

[dense violet]

fine if you have some basic knowledge

[west jackal]

LOL, i did. but im about to pipe it up 40+ meters 🙁

wait, not 40. only like 20

[dense violet]

that's fine. As long as you have some basic knowledge

just use a pump

[west jackal]

pump make fluid go up

still scary

also how do pumps work if you are feeding from below a machine (i know its a bad idea but humor me)

[dense violet]

feeding from below tends to cause a lot of flow issues if you're not helping

just having headlift doesn't solve feeding from below

It's doable.
I do it all the time.
but I don't recommend it

[west jackal]

when you say not helping, what do you mean? and how do you make it work if headlift isnt the issue?

lets say someone was gonna try and do it, wether it was a good idea or not. how would that someone (hypothetically ofcourse) go about doing it

[dense violet]

I'll ping you in #math-and-meta

[west jackal]

ty :3

[feral jay]

What's "headlift"?

[west jackal]

you serious or jk

[woven nebula]

is their an excel sheet to find your ratios by chance?

[dense violet]

what ratios?

[woven nebula]

to make your factory as efficient as possible yk, like if i got 900 crude how many refinery's would i need etc

[west jackal]

idk about an excel but greenys tool is pretty good

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[dense violet]

ratios aren't what you're looking for - there's so many paths to any end goal with recipes it'd be pointless

Plus you can clock your machines anywhere between 1% and 250%

but yes that tool is extremely handy to learn and fast

[west jackal]

the only important ratio is 3:8 for coal gens 😉

[dense violet]

for example I made this plan in a bout 12 seconds https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Fk9cHvCHXksL6qUSqeLy

It might take you longer at first since I knwo the tool and the recipes very well, but not a heck of a lot longer

[west jackal]

this one took me about a minute to figure out what i wanted https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Y2lcooqzedOlVdrFArYX

[woven nebula]

im having trouble kinda working out what rates i want for everything

[fickle cypress]

chat am i cooked? i got Alternate recipes Steel Screws, or Stichted Iron Plate, what should i pick?

[dense violet]

pick whatever is convenient for your next factory - if neither? rescan and choose

you're never locked out of recipes

[dense violet]

treat tiers 1-9 like a tutorial - just make stuff, you can't really future proof. If you need more later? make a new factory

[fickle cypress]

this is the rescan 🙏🥲

[dense violet]

pick one and move on with your life

both are very useful

[stone quiver]

This 3:8 coal gets much overhyped lol

[dense violet]

it's simple and useful

[woven nebula]

idk, im end game and on phase 4. wanting to build modular factory's in 1 go rather then future proof yk

[dense violet]

do you plan on doing your own projects after phase 5?

[woven nebula]

idk

just want a cool world with some sick looking factory's

that amke a shit ton an hour

[dense violet]

if you do - it doesn't matter make a cool looking factories
if you dont? - it doesn't matter, make a factory

[jagged nymph]

is hard drive debris items random

[dense violet]

there's prob a wiki article on crash sites you could check

[west jackal]

Hey man its easy to remember and I dont have to think when I setup coal

[west jackal]

Not random afaik

Do you guys use elevators or just hypertubes

And if you use hypertubes, what's your preferred method of setting up floors to ezit/keep goint

[stone quiver]

Sure but 1:2 would work just as well and be symmetrical , it's not like water is a rare resource , I find it forced all over the sub and discord lol

[vale perch]

it's so efficient

[vale perch]

there's a stream community thing about it

[swift turret]

somehow Im drastically overmaking aluminum

I made a temp factory to make 30 ingots, 400 sheets and 400 casing so I could just have aluminum, went back a week later to check it and everything is overfilled

[vale perch]

better to have more than less lol

[swift turret]

I guess but now I gotta redesign it so the excess materials are sent somewhere

[west jackal]

just sink overflow, youre fineeee

[swift turret]

im already sinking the sheets and casing

thats why its weird why it overfilled

[vale perch]

are the sinks powered

[swift turret]

yeah no issues with them

[west jackal]

are the splitters actually configured to send overflow to sinks 🙂

ive done that before

[swift turret]

yeah they sink fine

well now I gotta create a train system blueprints and send them

where to? Idk

i'll send them to @west jackal world and he can deal with it xd

[west jackal]

id love free aluminum 🙂

[swift turret]

the most scary thing of automation is unaccounted for material

[west jackal]

i like being fuh see shus with greeny

[feral jay]

Straw poll: who here immediately knows wtf a fencepost error is, without needing to look it up?

(It's not a game question it's #off-topic-general )

[west jackal]

greeny should play more satisfactory

i think greeny said he only has played double digit hours

[feral jay]

Oh fuck we beat them

The word around here is, holy shit, they played a good game

(Olympic Hockey)

LIke, we beat them, but holy shit, just barely

Then invest in Canada

We make everyone happy

Honestly, I don't care about hockey. What I like about the Olympics is that I'm witnessing the best in the world

I got that from my grandmother

It doesn't matter what sport I'm watching, or what movie I'm watching but it matters to me that I'm watching a maste of their craft

Try baseball

Harsh living conditions. Different reasons but we're both hard boned people.

(and not just the weather)

[cunning glade]

how would one report a bug or a dumb ass interaction

[feral jay]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com ?

[cunning glade]

aka falling into water well building and then u cant jump out

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @unborn gyro

[cunning glade]

ty

[cunning glade]

ty aswell

[feral jay]

Yes yes, you think you do, but Canada sits between two great nuclear powers (look at a circumpolar map). We are building an army of drones.

[soft marsh]

Started using SCIM to delete the remains of a bunch of failed projects. World is starting to feel a little cleaner now

[feral jay]

LOL we tend to be stuck in the middle of everything - morally, militarily, economically, ethically, we're just a great middle power

There's a reason I fly my flag on Discord

[feral jay]

I just used it to upgrade the belts on a few blueprints, to make sure I didn't leave stragglers

We have them, they're just not in the news internationally.

[unkempt blade]

This is scientific fact. I know because of research I've done into famed canadian, Wolverine

[feral jay]

I have no idea of whom you speak

Fuck who played Wolverine? His name escapes me

[unkempt blade]

Hugh Jackman

[feral jay]

Rick Mercer and its not even close

Close enough

[unkempt blade]

The historical reenactor who plays Wolverine is. The real Wolverine is canadian

yeah you're practically an X person

the problem is you got the metal skeleton without the unusually high healing factor

[cunning glade]

what are the reason a packged fuel loop isnt working

some keep getting starved well others fill up

[west jackal]

oh no, my power grid isnt even close to being able to handle my computer factory. i just tried to fire up the refiners (not ANY OF THE OTHER MACHINES) and my grid blew

[ebon marten]

not enough fuel/packaging? too many packagers?

[west jackal]

id recommend doing 1:1:1 thats what i was told when i had issues

it helps alleviate issues

[mystic crag]

wdym server gonna restart

[glacial drum]

That is.. not very descriptive

[daring helm]

What is "Hundreds of bugfixes and polish across all elements in the game" ? Detailed patch notes would be appreciated

[mystic crag]

Said it when i was playing the game

[hybrid nymph]

well I got good news

I passed the exam

But the bad news is I need to take an exam for a different subject because they don't have any openings

[west jackal]

oh damn, well best of luck! im proud of you for passing atleast 🙂

i absolutely wouldve failed an english test. always was my worst subject, i can write scientific papers but my grammar is ass otherwise

[fiery pewter]

Hm

How normal is it

To proces like

1440 Iron Orer

For the starter steel factory?

[west jackal]

rookie numbers

lol, it sounds nice! im surprised your power grid can handle it

[fiery pewter]

I don't know yet if my power grid can handle it

I'm still numbercrunching

[west jackal]

im guessing it wont be able to process the steel ingots, but idk how much coal you setup

[fiery pewter]

Wait

Check #screenshots

[nocturne nebula]

is there a way to slow down a hypertube before exiting it?

[mystic crag]

press "s"

[fiery pewter]

You can use the turn around button to slow

[mystic crag]

I mean hold

[nocturne nebula]

lol, hoping for automatic

[fiery pewter]

The numbers are still jank

But its getting there

[west jackal]

that looks great but im guessing you only have around 2400MW max?

[mystic crag]

you could add a barrier to slow you dowqn then re-enter with the slowed speed from barrier

[west jackal]

if you ARE able to support it, itll be tight i think

[hybrid nymph]

I finally did it, I left the discord server for the ASP

[west jackal]

ASP?

[fiery pewter]

Currently I have 1350 MW capacity

[west jackal]

does that include biomass?

[fiery pewter]

But that's all biomass on a bottlenecked belt

[hybrid nymph]

after not being able to bring myself to leave I finally did

[west jackal]

oh lawd

[hybrid nymph]

American Socialist Party server

[west jackal]

uh

[hybrid nymph]

they treated me so badly and bullied me, I hated them

[fiery pewter]

But first order of business in tier 2 will be setting up like 3 coal power plants

[hybrid nymph]

I'm glad I'm out of it

[west jackal]

3?? you mean like 24 coal power plantrs

[fiery pewter]

Using mark 2 miners

So like, 2400 MW per plant minimum