satisfactory

[west jackal]

it wont let me rename or change the icon

[jagged nymph]

i hath no iron plateessssss

early game is helllllllllllllllllllll

[swift turret]

Its the base of your blueprints if you dont categorize jt

[west jackal]

early game is better

[cunning glade]

Early game is relaxing and super tame

[west jackal]

i did categorize it, i want to change/get rid of that though, make it something else

[limber moss]

Alrighty, thank you all. I'll soon be making a fuel (or maybe turbo fuel even?) generator farm in the crater, so my current plan is to build it near the waterfall (the one that ends in the void)

[normal orbit]

turning the crude into hor+resin then using the hor to make diluted fuel and the resin into rubber. then using fuel to multiply the rubber into plastic back to rubber back to plastic is a pretty fun factory to build, but can be a pain to balance it out

[jagged nymph]

nah cause i odnt have materials so im play ing afk simulator waiting to get stuff

[cunning glade]

I started off with 4 assemblers making plates

[warm finch]

highly recommend rocket fuel over turbo fuel.

[swift turret]

That's what undefined is. Its for uncategorized blueprints

[cunning glade]

Oil normal oil can last u till u do a huge rocket fuel plant or do the fun route tho more difficult of uranium

[jagged nymph]

nuclear power is scary

[limber moss]

Don't have blenders yet unfortunately

[west jackal]

i get that, but id prefer to redine my default category

[nocturne nebula]

Alt or regular? haven't checked for a while

[swift turret]

I dont believe you can

[cunning glade]

Alt

For rubber and plastic u want 3 alt recipes before doing them really

Hor and then recycled rubber and plastic and then diluted packaged fuel or diluted fuel if u have blenders

[normal orbit]

thats 4 alts :p

[cunning glade]

Yeah I thought it was 3

Then I listed them it's 4

I honestly think oil and fluids are easier and nicer in this than factorio

[west jackal]

im saying i understand im just griping that it looks ugly

[cunning glade]

Like especially cracking

I hate oil cracking in factorio

I love my oil and pipes in this game

Pipe length limit is lame

[white dawn]

Didn't the big update that arrived with Space Age simplify Factorio's pipes by a lot? (I know some folks thought they went too far with it)

[cunning glade]

Yeah

[normal orbit]

theres no real limit to pipe length tho

[cunning glade]

They used too loose fluid over distance

Or flow rate ig idk

[cunning glade]

True but expanding is so annoying when u have a loop of flamethrower turrets around ur base and then randomly u get 4 overextend pipelines and then putting the pumps where it says doesn't fix them

[jagged nymph]

what

tf is a flamethrower turret

[cunning glade]

Also factorio doesn't really have flow it just kinda teleports into the pipe and is there

[jagged nymph]

ohh factorio

[cunning glade]

Turret that takes oil and spews fire with it

Yeah I like this games fluids over factorio

And like oil refining

Tho not smoking and trying too figure out factorios oil may help

But rampant deathworld I ain't got time for that

205 assemblers 75 constructors and 75 manufacturers left and then my computer factory will be done I just need too figure out how I wanna make it look nice

And then figure out what I need for the next part and what the current one needs

Oh wait isn't it super easy and like versatile framework

No it's not it's adaptive control units

Oof I planned for only 2.5 ads a min we may need too change that

The ratio of ads too biochem things isn't very nice

[rugged geyser]

How do i manifold assemblers?

[white dawn]

Generally with one feeder line raised up. Can either use angled belts or conveyor lifts for the alternate rows

(Or a similar such arrangement underneath, if you're one to feed from a subfloor)

[west jackal]

do you guys think iron pipe is worth it? if i get that i can make hmf with no coal...

its better than fused wire, but i could do the rescan

[white dawn]

All alt recipes are at least situationally useful. Iron Pipe is indeed often used to make all-iron production lines for stuff which otherwise requires steel

[normal orbit]

yea its a good alt recipe

[west jackal]

and takes a lot of iron...

[normal orbit]

not as efficient as steel, but if you have lots of iron

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's quite iron-inefficient. Though by the same token you'll generally have iron coming out of your ears, so eh?

Anyway, as usual: there's no good or bad recipes, especially when taken on their own. You'll certainly develop your own opinions over time, but they're basically all at least situationally useful

[west jackal]

it seems lovely lol

[normal orbit]

the best alt recipes is the ones which eliminate screws from your production :p

[knotty wasp]

Anyone knows if the Enhanced Asset Security Milestone is meant to give extra hand equipment slot or is it just there? i had 3 before completing it and i have 3 now after

[west jackal]

nah ima do steel screws, use iron pipe to remove coal from the there and then add coal in for the screws haha

[normal orbit]

if you skipped onboarding you start with 3 hand slots, so the first one you unlock doesnt actually add any. the next one will add a 4th tho.

[knotty wasp]

okidoki, thank you

[west jackal]

can you add more than 1 custom swatch?

[warm finch]

Iron is the most populous node on the map. it is SOOO plentiful, that's the tradeoff.

[dense violet]

Basically what apocs has said - and yeah , often better to just go find coal and iron - they are the most common combo on the map

[swift turret]

The HMF with encased industrial beams is best

[warm finch]

I love streamlining pipe production, you can REALLY crank out those pipes for different stuff

[west jackal]

do you mean encased pipe?

[dense violet]

check out this NON iron pipe production plan for HMF https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ERVGEHHw9VG9uKggnQVb

[normal orbit]

with the alt recipes like steeled frame, steeled rotors, encased pipes, heavy encased frames. the amount of pipes you need is yes :o you can use stuff like molded steel pipe for a 1:1 conversion from steel ingot to pipes using some concrete.

[swift turret]

Heavy encased frame is the name

[normal orbit]

would also let you make heavy modular frames using iron and concrete only should you want to

[simple pebble]

Honestly I end up ticking off Iron Pipes/Wires every time I use satisfactorytools

[ornate saffron]

isnt it off by defualt

[dense violet]

they might mean on.

[simple pebble]

Nah, I mean off. But I usually run it with most all recipes active, otherwise.

The problem is it prioritizes the cheapest/most abundant material at every opportunity, so you'll end up with this huge load of extra machines

[west jackal]

do you guys normally put the output under or input under the machine? i feel like output under is cleaner because if its not under then the items have to go over the machines, but i like having the inputs under... big decisions

[tall lantern]

I just go around...

or if I've got logistics floors, then up/down into those depending on where they need to go

[west jackal]

well i was making a bp for constructors with a logistics floor. although i think that i need more headroom so i can get over the conveyors lol

i have the mergers clipping into the bottom of 1m foundation because it looked cleaner imo

[tall lantern]

eww lol

[hazy topaz]

i made my first 3 floor factory 🥳

[reef basin]

don't afk, build more instead

[simple pebble]

I like having input come in from above, when I can. Real nice with a slow conveyor lift. But really, it most depends on which end of the machine is facing where I'll be in the factory.

[west jackal]

eww what? clipping?

its better than my normal factory stuffs

[twilit stag]

where is the overflow option in smart spliter? I can't see it

[west jackal]

at the very top

[jagged nymph]

i cant build more if i dont have any materials to build mroe stuff

im boutta get out of what i call early game

[twilit stag]

found it

[reef basin]

then explore, gather stuff, etc.
there's always something to do

[stone quiver]

Both.

Raw materials and tier 1/2 used in many places go under. High assemblies go over since they have only one path

[dense violet]

depends on how you set it up - hiting 'maximise' will almost always give yo uweird recipe choices

[stone quiver]

I'm a madman who does phase 5 recipe planning by hand.

Bc I don't have a computer near the ps5 to plan

[ornate saffron]

i use spreadsheets cause..... i hate myself

[stone quiver]

Oh that probably works nice with cell size as footprint

[simple pebble]

Yeah I use sheets for nuclear power planning because I use the rocket fuel and nuclear rebalance mods, and modeler can't use the adjusted rates

[simple pebble]

I found it'd do weird stuff even if I had set rates, but that's always going to be the problem with not pruning your available alt recipes

[dense violet]

generally much better to swap recipes in and out and look at the changes in raw resources needed so you can help match up locations

[simple pebble]

Yeah. Sometimes I'll use it to get a rough gist, and then plug in something similar in modeler to play with

[glacial drum]

To fix my HOR not reaching my 2nd floor I could install a fluid tower early on in its pipeline couldn’t I?

Hmm

[stone quiver]

You can pump it

Try that first

[glacial drum]

I have. It’s refusing to split evenly between the two floors when each use 300 of the 600

Maybe I should just split it at the refineries originally then add an extra pipe

[ornate saffron]

that what i always do. why merge when youll split it later anywayts

[glacial drum]

Simplicity of piping back when I was making it

it’ll cut my power for a bit but I should be fine.

Now I’ve heard it’s bad to max out a pipe. But is it also bad to have one half full? I can make 3 pipe mk 1’s for this or 3 mk 2’s

transporting 900 HOR

[ornate saffron]

dont make them to hit make flow limit BUT fill them completely

[glacial drum]

Not sure that’s possible

If I use mk 1 pipes I’m using 300 HOR per floor. If I use mk 2 I’m making 300 sending into a mk 2 pipe while using 300

[ornate saffron]

absolutly just fill them up all the way before activating the next machine

[glacial drum]

Actually that does make sense

They should back up naturally anyways since my fuel gens aren’t consuming all the RF bcs they’re underclocked

[ornate saffron]

for example fuel generators will fill but wont turn on until there power connectors are populated

coal generators will intake3 fluid but stay on standby until coal is put in them

[leaden ruin]

why would this be idle? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

curse of the machine spirit

[sterile blade]

Are you using a hoverpack?

[leaden ruin]

i am

[sterile blade]

Do you have power switches or light control panels close-by?

[leaden ruin]

power switches

no shot

[open crescent]

didn't praise the Omnissiah

[leaden ruin]

my only theory was that it was because my friend joined the server and was causing lag

it is affecting lotss of machines, not just ones i'm next to

[sterile blade]

Then that's the answer.
Unequipping the hoverpack (before putting it back on) should suffice to fix it
Iirc, the issue shouldn't be present at all if you either don't load into the savefile while flying or while having the hoverpack equipped

[sterile blade]

It should happen when the hoverpack changes power connection from machines/connectors on one side of a switch to the other. It can affect all machines on one of these sides... (maybe both?)

[leaden ruin]

this is a fascinating effect of packs. is this intended behavior?

[sterile blade]

They effectively go idle for the smallest time they can iirc (different machines have different "minimum idle times")

[leaden ruin]

and you're saying doing the drop and re-equip fixes it and I can go back to flying around, or i should never fly around with the pack and switches?

fascinating is certainly one word

i never would've put that together

[sterile blade]

So long as you don't load into the savefile with it equipped, it shouldn't happen in the first place (either that or while you're flying, can't recall)
So yeah, unequip-equip should fix it on the fly (pun intended)

[leaden ruin]

i thought i was being so fancy and responsible and organized having switches

little did i know

thank you so much. i was about to lose all sanity i thought something was actually messed up with the flow again

[sterile blade]

... I encountered it while trying to troubleshoot a 200+ machines facility for maximum efficiency...
I was about to start doubting wether I even knew how splitters actually work before I finally found a post about this

Ie: if the facility didn't run all exactly at 100%, it would clog within a few minutes/hours

[leaden ruin]

😭 yes i'm in this thing #screenshots message, couple hundred machines as well yesh. this would've ruined me. and it includes recycled rubber/plastic feedback loop so that getting out of wack is a no no.

[stone quiver]

Overflow splitters are your friend

They fix all glitches in the matrix

[glacial drum]

Alright everything is repiped

But I kinda forgot to make them mk 2 pipes so I’m not dealing with that until it breaks

[stone quiver]

Just click mk2 over the 1s

[sterile blade]

There's no overflowing when sushi goes directly into machines (lack of overflow was part of the challenge in designing that)

[sterile blade]

A tip I always like to give to ease troubleshooting, even though it needs a bit of time-investment: having power storages on every floor and cabling things so that such floors (and buildings) can be easily disconnected from one another and/or the general grid.
That way, you can hunt down inefficiencies just by checking the power draw (assuming you also kept vehicles and anything needing variable power on a separate grid though!) and you can easily disconnect parts of the factory from the rest to see wether the issue is from that part of the grid or not (the local power storages keep things running)

[hybrid nymph]

My factory is comming along #screenshots message

it's very basic right now, but it's a work in progress

my next thing I'm working on is the copper plant, then it's sttel, then it's oil

[merry vapor]

alright... so like. Lizard doggo refuses to move. How do i move? I think its toe is glitched into the slope

[leaden ruin]

i am but a simpleton and everything is one one big power line with only switches separating the factories from certain doom. and I basically never use power storages.... but I can see the value in them for something like that

[hybrid nymph]

power storage is important, I have 50 batteries setup at oil

I have 15,000 MW hours of power storage

I'm only consuming 8500MW and I am producing 18,500MW

[merry vapor]

ight well

rip doggo, blame the game physics

[hybrid nymph]

RIP doggo 🪦😭

[leaden ruin]

i'm producing 412,775 MW and consuming ~150k, so building enough power storages to actually support a backup for even one facility just hasn't appealed to me 😆 . and these numbers will get much larger

[floral bronze]

will I need oil for any new materials from phase 3?

[sterile blade]

Other than for ALT recipes, I don't really think so...
But stuff will likely need products of Oil (usually Plastic, Rubber and Fuel aka Flubber)

[floral bronze]

yeah I have a lot of products available im just thinking on making more 5 GW power plants

[sterile blade]

Oh, just for clarity: for the sake of troubleshooting as I mentioned, just a couple storages every few tens of machines are fine ^^
The point would just be for them to sustain the local factory/floor long enough for you to check the power grid (so, up to a couple minutes max?)

[leaden ruin]

ah, sure sure

[ornate saffron]

as you move along ytou will unlock more power generation options. rushing something now me mean dismantling later

[hybrid nymph]

Absolutely, you need plastic and rubber

[floral bronze]

well, im max consuming 7.3GW and producing ~10.5GW and im not even making computers yet (I have left them for last)

[sterile blade]

The upside is that when the grid is all connected, all power storages are pooled together, so they might actually amount to decent storage when all together ^^

[floral bronze]

just wondering if more power would be a good investment

[sterile blade]

Surely it won't hurt!

... So long as you don't burn yourself out

[floral bronze]

not even gonna lie, I have been making this one factory (branches out into a lot more factories, Shocker) for like 12 hours + now

[hybrid nymph]

is there any way to get rid of the giant rocks? Or are they just part of the map?

[sterile blade]

I fail to recognize wether that's supposed to be a lot or not for your standards 😅 😆

[sterile blade]

If a few booms don't get rid of it, it's likely part of the map (sometimes one might need several bokms because of weird hitboxes)

[hybrid nymph]

oh that's a shame

part of the map...sad

[floral bronze]

considering its my first ever play through and I've just passed 50 hours, I would like to say not a lot....

[sterile blade]

Yeah, quite so... 😆

[floral bronze]

my only issue right now is making computers

I have everything else in production at 100% I just need to implement computers

[sterile blade]

But hey, we only first-game once... Best to take your time, no? ^^

[latent gate]

Does that guy named after the wooden pallet company still come around?

[sterile blade]

Why not just ping them to ask?

[latent gate]

@echo berry

[latent gate]

Their fault

They made me do it

[sterile blade]

I'm not chronically online, but I haven't seen them in a while ^^

[floral bronze]

My mind is gone, I dont know how to start with making computers mannn

[latent gate]

Wait and do it after RAM prices come down

[stone quiver]

I was at 7k when I hit tier 9. Maybe go easier on maxing out everything lol

[floral bronze]

I just need to make 5 crystal oscillators

[reef basin]

calculate it backwards from computers

[sterile blade]

I like to break productions down through looking at recipes (and their production chains) in the codex... Dunno if this might help 😅

[floral bronze]

Ig I understand what I need to do, just dont know how I will actually go about doing it

[stone quiver]

Make a refinery. Grab copper grab caterium, done.

[floral bronze]

I dont entirely want a 20000km belt with ai limitters and quartz

[ivory condor]

Vencam says time for sleep...20 mins later, that didnt happen

[merry vapor]

How do yall keep a doggo in the base without them getting lost or glitched out?

[sterile blade]

Jails doggo pens are the only way I know of, but I heard they've become quite unreliable unless very well made... (something about the doggos managing to slip out or clip through terrain somehow, iirc)

[sterile blade]

Have you dabbled with vehicles yet? ^^

[floral bronze]

I was just about trying to scramble a sentence about a train question

How can I split the resources into seperate outputs from a train if I dont have smart splitters?

[hybrid nymph]

I'm just trying to make my factory look good

[dense violet]

what do you mean?

if an output from a train is feeding 2 manifolds it'll self balance

and you can unlock smart splitters very early

[ivory condor]

Usually on foundations, with walls is safe, assuming no glitches apu

[floral bronze]

Oh, I worded that very wrong. For example if I have Ai limiters and quartz crystals on a train to then unload into an assembly to make crystal oscillators, is there a way so that the conveyor doesn't take all of the resources and instead seperates them

[sterile blade]

I'm assuming you mean resources loaded in the same train car?
Iirc, you can set trains to unload specific items at stations
Eg: unload just AI Limiters at station A, unload just Quartz at station B

[merry vapor]

ah ok

[sinful sparrow]

im about to finish my first aluminum factory. this is so cooked

[dense violet]

how so?

[floral bronze]

Alright, time to fail miserably. Thank you!

[sinful sparrow]

its just like so cluttered and instead of using train or trucks i transported the coal, quarts, and bauxite using like 5k encased beams worth of belts

becuase idk how to use trains for this circumstance

[ornate saffron]

by that you mean you are making delicious Beef stroganoff?

[dense violet]

then you need smart splitters and an overflow to sink or it'll clog

[dense violet]

mostly the same as any other train situation - decide on a spot for your factory , figure out where your trains are going , have a station at the 2 points going back and forth

[sinful sparrow]

oh true

are there any aluminium-related alt recipies youd reccomend?

[dense violet]

personally though I'd use Pure Aluminium Ingot though, get rid of the need for silica

or use a mix of Pure and Normal Ingots so you don't need EXTRA silica

you don't have to use only 1 recipe in a production line

[sinful sparrow]

dude thats exactly what i need

the silica has taked like 1/3 of all the time to make the factory

[dense violet]

yeah do some as Pure ingots then. You get a bit less total but saves a lot of hassle

and if you pick a spot with both Coal/Bauxite or Oil/Bauxite you don't need any trains for resources

[sinful sparrow]

ok thats perfect. thank you

im not gonna remake this factory, but ill keep this in mind for my next one

[dense violet]

no prob 🙂

just make sure you don't mix your fresh water and waste water

[sinful sparrow]

im assuming aluminium is verrrrry inportant for phase 4+

[dense violet]

yes

[ornate saffron]

the mk5 belts are nice too

[sinful sparrow]

i highkey did that..

[dense violet]

it's a workable solution, but not as reliable or simple as keeping them split

[sinful sparrow]

i cant wait to stop using these encased beama for my mk4/'s

[sinful sparrow]

i see. what would i use the water for? im guessing a pure ingot recipie

or anything really i guess

[dense violet]

back into the same system. I'll ping you in #math-and-meta

[floral bronze]

does the arrow direction of the station matter?

[west jackal]

i believe so

[floral bronze]

should it be facing towards or away from the next station

[west jackal]

uh, its hard to answer without know what the setup looks like, but the train will be facing the direction of the arrow when it stops there, so make sure the freight platforms are "behind"

[sterile blade]

Away from the freight stations

Ie: the arrow shows the direction the train's locomotive will dock from. Train cars will line up behind the arrow

[floral bronze]

alright so it goes into the buffer

I can send a ss in #screenshots

[sterile blade]

Seems fine

[floral bronze]

awesome

thank you!

[hybrid nymph]

The Choo Choo station seems fine

I see nothing wrong with it

They don't call me "The Professor" for nothing lol 😆

[floral bronze]

my name should have "the messy" considering my factories look like a bowl of spaghetti

[hybrid nymph]

I am called The Professor Because I know just about everything there is to know about modded Minecraft, and satisfactory.

There's only one thing in each one of those games that I don't know how to do, in satisfactory that happens to be trained signals, and in Minecraft that happens to be magic

[hybrid nymph]

Aha So we have a spaghetti builder here like let's game it out 😉

[jagged nymph]

hm my biomass burners are running low

[hybrid nymph]

I see you're still using biomass, the best biomass burners are solid biofuel

[jagged nymph]

yeah thats what im using

[hybrid nymph]

I would just set up a little mini factory with three constructors that craft biomass into solid biofuel, because biomass burners take 20 biomass per minute but they only take 4 solid biofuel per minute

[jagged nymph]

praise to the devs for adding biomass burner inputs

[jagged nymph]

yeah thats what i did

[hybrid nymph]

You get a net saving of four biomass per minute if you make it into solid biofuel

[jagged nymph]

yeah i know

[hybrid nymph]

Okay you already know, sounds good

[jagged nymph]

i remember when you had to run back over to your burners like every 20 minuts to refill them 😭

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah that was super annoying

Now you can just sit down a storage unit with like six stacks of solid biomass and just forget about it

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[hybrid nymph]

I'm guessing you're on tier 2?

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[hybrid nymph]

Brand new game eh?

[jagged nymph]

im setting up a factory for all the basic iron materials rn

[jagged nymph]

yep, just started last night

[hybrid nymph]

Nice, what number playthrough is this for you?

I'm on playthrough number 6

[floral bronze]

dedication bro.

[hybrid nymph]

Well the thing is I always stopped after tier 8 because two of my playthroughs were during early access

[jagged nymph]

i havnt finished the game before, but this is probably like my 5th time starting a new save

[floral bronze]

ouuu

[jagged nymph]

i usually get burnt out and stop playing for like 3 months and not remembering anything about my save when i come back so i start up a new one

but each time its better than the last

[floral bronze]

hopefully, I will get 100% achievements and never play again. (im too addicted)

[hybrid nymph]

And I just couldn't get it in myself to be able to craft the ballistic warp drives and nuclear pasta

I started a modded save about a week ago

My first time using mods. Once I get done with tier 8 in my current unmoded save I'm going to add a few mods to it

[jagged nymph]

i have a few qol mods

a couple of the zoop ones

[leaden ruin]

i have discovered that for some reason the 12,800 quickwire/minute being trained and then gobbled by my factory is for some reason running out on a few of the lines and now i have to spend the next lifetime figuring out why...a weekend problem indeed

[jagged nymph]

is the factory recieving all 12,800 and just using all of it? or is the 12,800 not getting to the factory like its not getting trained fast enough

fainlly done building my starter iron factory, noe time to wait and see if anything backs up...

[leaden ruin]

afaict it's receiving all 12,800. the station cars are full minus one which doesn't need to be and there are storage container buffers on both all stations to account for the downtime when loading and unloading, so i'm guessing it's something to do with how i'm load balancing all the belts of 1200 and merging after certain splits. something something i should probably use smart splitters and priority mergers in some of the places so that the load is balanced over all the cars properly, rather than regular mergers. i smart split for overflow in most/all of where i thought i needed to.

[jagged nymph]

interesting

i try to use trains drones and trucks as little as possible cause sometimes the logistics are just so hard to figure out or theres an issue and i have no idea why the train is doing what its doing or especially with drones

drones have amind of their own

but sometimes you have to

[leaden ruin]

i've not dove into drones much, don't want to have to mess with fueling them. trains are electric and stuff

[leaden ruin]

pain

[jagged nymph]

yeah, atleast you arent forced to use batteries anymore lol

i mean batteries arent that bad to make

but i dont wanna set up a whole battery production line just for like 3 drone ports

[hybrid nymph]

I could get more quick wire, there is a pure caterium node near aluminum

[leaden ruin]

that is also a viable option

[jagged nymph]

time to cut down a shit load of trees

[hybrid nymph]

I hate trucks and drones, I only use trains

[fickle locust]

You say this but also batteries are still pretty great drone power

[jagged nymph]

trains are definitely the best of the 3

[jagged nymph]

yeah, if you have a big drone network batteries are definitely the choice, but if i have like 3 drone ports its easier to just use fuel

[fickle locust]

Heeeey that's exactly how my game has gone

[jagged nymph]

which i usually do cause i try to avoid drones

[hybrid nymph]

They really are, simple to use, the fastest land vehicle in the game, reliable, and they can transport a lot of stuff at once

Trains travel at 120Km/h

[fickle locust]

I set up an initial drone network using turbofuel and just finished redoing the turbo factory to make batteries instead. Smart past me put the turbofuel and aluminum next to each other

[jagged nymph]

yeah trains are way better than trucks n drones

[hybrid nymph]

Trucks only travel at about 40km/h

Drones go about 150km/h

But the inventory of drones is tiny

[jagged nymph]

yeah, and they are a pain to setup

[hybrid nymph]

And the logistics are so complicated

I tried using them once, and I hated them

I just decided to use trains only and that was that

Been using trains ever since for transporting over long distances

Even medium and short distances. I setup a train that has a track that only goes for about 15 seconds lol 😆

Because I'm lazy and didn't want to run a belt long distance

[floral bronze]

damn, me personally. I havb like 20 conveyors going into a long belt connecting everything to one storage system

[fickle locust]

I made a tiny train loop to avoid running a belt 200 meters

[hybrid nymph]

I did too 😆

I ran a train 500 meters to avoid running a belt

It's my 15 second train

I'm just using my train to deliver automated wiring so I can keep making adaptive control units so that I can make awesome sink tickets

I have 278 tickets so far just from adaptive control units

[fickle locust]

ACUs have been the bane of my existence for the past week

I made a single miscalculation on my spreadsheet and the ongoing repercussions have caused so many problems

[hybrid nymph]

I have 1 fully overclocked and somerslooped manufacturer making them

I need more damn plastic

I need to improve my oil plant

[jagged nymph]

starter iron factory seems to be workin out great

with no issues

[hybrid nymph]

I have so much rubber that I'm just awesome sinking it at this point

[hybrid nymph]

Awesome glad to hear, you get The Professors seal of approval ✅🧾

[hollow hemlock]

Make more, if you aren't sinking it with 2 full belts it's not sinking enough

[jagged nymph]

only 2?

i think you mean 12

[hybrid nymph]

I am using 2 belts from the industrial storage unit

[hollow hemlock]

Well if he had 2 I'd be talking about making 4, baby steps

[hybrid nymph]

I am also producing so much aluminum sheets and casings that I'm sinking them

I have 3 full industrial storage units of aluminum sheets/casings

[covert quarry]

let's say i were to use a ton of mergers but everything in my factory is "lined out". Would that slow down my production?

[fickle locust]

What does that mean?

[hollow hemlock]

Depends if you max out a belt or not

[reef basin]

*different

[covert quarry]

wdym?

[hybrid nymph]

It depends on the max speed of the belt, I wouldn't recommend merging more than 2 belts, otherwise it overwhelms the merger and makes it wait

[fickle locust]

My SAM retrieval system is working great and giving me nice views #screenshots message

[covert quarry]

like mergers they slow down ur output but if my products are lined out so the belts don't constantly feed machines only when needed.

[fickle locust]

Mergers don't slow anything down, they're instantaneous
It's just a question of belt speed

[hybrid nymph]

Thanks for reminding me, I need to setup better SAM delivery

[reef basin]

Max speed of a truck is 89km/h, drone with batteries or RF is 133.2km/h

[hybrid nymph]

I see

[covert quarry]

thanks

[hybrid nymph]

Like I said the drones are faster than trains BUT JUST BARELY

[hollow hemlock]

How fast do they go when falling off a cliff 😁

[hybrid nymph]

Answer: YES!

[reef basin]

Faster doesn't mean better 🙂

Every transportation mode in the game fulfills a different purpose

[hybrid nymph]

Trains may go slightly slower but each car has a inventory of 36 slots

Each drone has an inventory of I believe 10 slots

And they require batteies

[hollow hemlock]

Factory carts, you know you want to

[reef basin]

Or any other solid fuel

[hybrid nymph]

I love popping wheelies

The factory cart does it best

Although word of advice, factory cart DOES NOT do well offroad

[hollow hemlock]

I kinda want to rework my nuclear plant to move the rods by cart

[hybrid nymph]

Hence why it's called the "factory cart"

[sinful sparrow]

Thoughts on making a giant “hub” where I rout all my basic materials to? (Like the ingots, not the raw ore)

Is that a standard practice?

[feral jay]

I always do, everything up to modular frames usually

[dense violet]

it's generally a lot more work

doable ofc

[feral jay]

Just up to modular frames/encased beams, but after that dimensional depots really obviate the need for any kind of central production

[hybrid nymph]

And here I am just trying to make my factory look good 👍😊

[sinful sparrow]

Ok I could see that. In the case of my aluminum bars I have now, do you recommend making a train station that connects copper to my aluminum?

[dense violet]

I would probably just bring hte aluminium to wherever you need it for further processing. In general most bauxite nodes arne't very close to other useful nodes

unless you're in the swamp

[feral jay]

Aluminium ingots are a great candidate for centralized production

Unline iron/steel/copper ingots which I tend to just make wherever I need them

[sinful sparrow]

Ok. Are you recommending to bring the bauxite, coal, copper, and maybe quarts to one area to make a large aluminum factory?

[feral jay]

I have a few centralized aluminium depots usually that I pull ingots from for further processing

[hollow hemlock]

Alternatively you could bring a bunch of sam and build nuclear weapons....power instead

[sinful sparrow]

Ok ok

[feral jay]

If I bring all the bauxite to one central spot, it's just... too big a facility to wrap my head around really, although I could try it on a later playthrough, it could be interesting. Having a few smaller ones makes it ieasier to manage and less of a problem if one of them breaks for whatever reason

[sinful sparrow]

Do you think one train would be efficient enough to handle two pure bauxite nodes + 1 pure coal & quarts node + some copper?

[jagged nymph]

time to make my starter copper plant

should be prertty easy, just turn it all into wires and then some of it into cable

[sinful sparrow]

For reference I just made my first aluminum factory but it sucks

[dense violet]

depends entirely about the distance and number of cars you have

[feral jay]

Haha I wouldn't know, I always belt everything in to my aluminium plants

[dense violet]

a train can move any amount of parts per minute designed the right way

[sinful sparrow]

I gotcha

Maybe a ton of bi-directional trains are the move

[feral jay]

The benefit of belts is that they still work if my trains lose power

Or rather, they just always work

[sinful sparrow]

True

[hybrid nymph]

I can help you improve it

Are you using mods?

[feral jay]

So if for whatever reason, I'm depending on my aluminium plant for power (which can happen with nuclear power), I try to make sure the aluminium plant doesn't rely on the power that relies on the aluminium plant

[sinful sparrow]

No

I’m trying to do a full blind play through, as in no tutorials

[hybrid nymph]

I see

What's the issue?

[sinful sparrow]

Spoilers and pieces of advice are fine though

[jagged nymph]

is this your first playthrough>

[sinful sparrow]

Yessir

First game like it too

[jagged nymph]

uhh... good luck with that

youll need it

[hybrid nymph]

I gotta say since it's your first playthrough, your factory is going to be messy and likely inefficient, as you're just figuring things out

[sudden creek]

wsup chat

[jagged nymph]

have you heard of manifolds btw

[sinful sparrow]

I’ve seen some kibitz videos about his nuclear pasta stuff. It looks intimidating

[hybrid nymph]

My first factory was exactly like that, messy and inefficient

[sinful sparrow]

Yes bro but only like 20 hours in

[jagged nymph]

ok good, manifolds are very useful

[jagged nymph]

yeah kibitz worlds are crazzyyy. And his builds are always organized and neat too.

[sudden creek]

lowk i wonder how he does it

[jagged nymph]

but then some people make their worlds look like a museum with all their super crazy lookin builds

kibitz isnt the best at making cool looking things, but his factories are so perfectly organized

[mortal ginkgo]

they cost time, a lot of time, REALLY too much time.

[jagged nymph]

yeah... i could never

[sudden creek]

i try to be organised but i fail 3 mins later

[mortal ginkgo]

You could, what you need to keep in mind is Kibitz shows like 10% of his actual playtime.

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
this is the best looking thing ive made 😭

[sudden creek]

so now i made those pre-organised machine blueprints

[jagged nymph]

on my first 2 playthroughs i never used blueprints 😭

[sudden creek]

im currently at the door of nuclear but uh the only thing i got is a document detailing how im going to use every piece of uranium and im missing one

[rugged widget]

Blueprints are for cowards, real engineers make stuff up as they go.

Embrace the belt and pipe spaghetti

[sinful sparrow]

So I started in the left desert (the easier one) and I’m using the two pure bauxite nodes near the oil on the coast.

I built my aluminum factory very close by my oil power factory on the same coast, and I’ve used like 5k reinforced beams to bring coal and quarts to my aluminum factory.

The issue is it’s gross but also inconvenient since I now need to haul copper to this crammed factory. I could always build more vertically, but the footprint of space I have is small, so it would have a lot of weird floors.

Right now I’m thinking about scrapping it to make a new central factory where I’ll bring in all the materials I need for the different aluminum products by train

[mortal ginkgo]

What you need is depth, pillars etc #design-and-architecture message

[floral bronze]

Computers are almost in production 🙏

[sudden creek]

so thats how you have to say abandon ship to a entire world

[jagged nymph]

i just have blueprints of like 8 or 12 premanifolded machines w/ power poles so i can just plop em down and connect the inputs and done

[jagged nymph]

woah that looks sick

[sudden creek]

no like deadass who wants to see the world thats impossible to fix without fully rebuilding from the ground up

[mortal ginkgo]

Thank you, and took ages to get it to what I like.

[hybrid nymph]

You're at tier 7 and only 22 hours in? Woah 😳

It usually takes me about 60 hours to get that far

[sudden creek]

so how does someone make that

[jagged nymph]

i can imagine in my head what i want it to look like but then translating that to what specific pieces to use ingame and how to place them is a different story

[sinful sparrow]

I’m wondering if there is a better approach I should take of if the bidirectional train system would work well

[jagged nymph]

wait what youre at tier 7 already??

[sinful sparrow]

Haha no. I’m 80+ hours in

[sinful sparrow]

Yeah

[hybrid nymph]

Beautiful ❤️

[jagged nymph]

ohhh i misunderstood this message

[jagged nymph]

.

[mortal ginkgo]

what youtube tutorials about design in satisfactory, especially about depths and decoration. then yolo.

you WILL spend time if you want it to be pretty. I sometimes spend days just to get something feel right.

[sinful sparrow]

Igu

[hybrid nymph]

Oh okay that makes much more sense, I was at 92 hours when I finished phase 3

[mortal ginkgo]

no u ❤️

[jagged nymph]

i thought you meant "yes i heard of them but im only 20 hours in"

[sudden creek]

i have 421 hours on satisfactory and most of those are from my current world (at nuclear rn)

[sudden creek]

DAYS???

[hybrid nymph]

Satisfactory is my favorite game on steam, I have 600 hours

[sinful sparrow]

Ohh no I mean I spent my first 20 hours trying to perfectly split rescources

[jagged nymph]

i only have 300 hours rn but thats spead over like 7 different playthroughs, although like 150 of those was on my first one

[sinful sparrow]

Dang bro

[jagged nymph]

yeah i see what you meant now

[hybrid nymph]

All time favorite game is Minecraft though, I have 1200 hours in Minecraft

[sudden creek]

wait ima check playtime rn

[sinful sparrow]

Typo wait

I’m so proud of it. It took so long

[jagged nymph]

also a mistake that i made was always trying to PERFECTLY balance everything like if i needed to make 725.44 items per minute i would make EXACTLY that amount and then i realized i can just make like 750/m and the numbers work out better

[mortal ginkgo]

THis took me around 2 full days before I finally liked what I saw: #design-and-architecture message

[jagged nymph]

wow

[mortal ginkgo]

my hate for refineries only grew

[sudden creek]

#screenshots message one part btw

[sinful sparrow]

It’s functional too?

[jagged nymph]

gopefully i can make stuff like that this playthrough

[sudden creek]

so how does the logistics look underground

[sinful sparrow]

My goal is to get every steam achievement and every awesome shop product in this one save

[jagged nymph]

do you usually just build out the machines in a factory and then make it look nice? or do you start with kinda the layout you want and the plan out where the machines are gonna go based on how you want it look

[sudden creek]

real

[jagged nymph]

refnieries are like my favorite machine tbh

[sudden creek]

ngl the aluminum factory is the first one me and by buddy took serious first

[dense violet]

You are my enemy, sorry, that's just how it goes

[hybrid nymph]

I just tore down my caterium factory last night just to make it look good

[sudden creek]

i recently fully rebuilt a coal backup power plant

[hybrid nymph]

That's my next project, making my steel plant look good

[sudden creek]

#screenshots message bwt my playtime on one world

[mortal ginkgo]

I got logistics floor for each floor and also one shared below for all factories in one location. It looks more or less like this: #screenshots message

[sinful sparrow]

Do you need a lot of caterium? I feel like I have unlimited caterium wire from one node

[sudden creek]

im unfit to breathe the same air as you holy

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you use later on

[hybrid nymph]

I do yes, I'm consuming 550 caterium wire per minute

[mortal ginkgo]

lol thanks but again, ı do nothing special compared to some madmen. You just need to spend time and get a feel of what you want it to look like

[sinful sparrow]

Geez

[dense violet]

I have 1 factory that uses about 11,800 qw pm

[sinful sparrow]

Whaaaaaat

[jagged nymph]

#satisfactory-memes message

[sudden creek]

lowk i never thought of a floor built purely for logistics

[dense violet]

the more uranium efficient recipes need a bunch of it

[hybrid nymph]

I am unfit to call myself "The Professor"... Your builds are above me...

[sinful sparrow]

Oh I gotcha

[sudden creek]

real

[dense violet]

but it's totally avoidable too - you can get away with using almost no quickwire if you want

[floral bronze]

ayyyy I got my train working

[sudden creek]

niceee

[jagged nymph]

nice

[sinful sparrow]

But which path is more convenient?

[floral bronze]

Do I need to spam the timetable or does a single schedule save?

[dense violet]

for uranium rods? or just in general?

[sinful sparrow]

Just in general

[dense violet]

depends on your goals, recipes and location

[sinful sparrow]

I’m only on tier 7 so idk much

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, its just a cooler way of saying "belts go underneath and nobody sees them". you can see one image there shows them better #screenshots message

[sinful sparrow]

For the desert on the left side of the map let’s say

That’s where my spawn is

[dense violet]

this is basically why you can't ever really say if a recipe is 'best', unless you're VERY specific to what you need

[dense violet]

doesn't stop you from setting up another factory elsewhere 🙂

but yeah you'd have to tell me exactly what you want to build and where

[sinful sparrow]

I love how there’s no real meta in this game

[sinful sparrow]

I understand

[dense violet]

honestly yeah, the alt recipe mechanics is so good

[hybrid nymph]

I'm using that alt recipe to craft circuit boards fully overclocked, those alone consume 450 caterium wire, plus the 100 for the AI limiters

[sudden creek]

#screenshots message btw gng what do we think

[sudden creek]

thats still insanely cool

[hybrid nymph]

Super cool, you have a lot of dismantle crates lol, you got some cleaning up to do

[sudden creek]

if i can find them

they are actively stuck in critital machines or power plants

[hybrid nymph]

Try the satisfactory calculator to delete them

[sudden creek]

eh

[hybrid nymph]

It's like MC Edit in Minecraft

[sudden creek]

i like using it to prepare factories by looking for spots but altering the save file is kinda cheating to me

[hybrid nymph]

I am tired of finding Mercer spheres and sloops

[sudden creek]

which i am against since the incident

[hybrid nymph]

After I place one more radar tower I'm just going to add the void spheres mod and the awesome alien artifacts mod

[sudden creek]

@mortal ginkgo you wanna see something to give u nightmares?

[mortal ginkgo]

I am going sleep so 😭

[hybrid nymph]

Oof okay rest well friend 🙏

I am going to use some simple mods

[sudden creek]

#screenshots message

[hybrid nymph]

Once I finish tier 8

[sudden creek]

gn if u can after this

[mortal ginkgo]

seen much worse, but you should focus on stabilizing power 🙂‍↕️

[sudden creek]

gng i abandoned that world

[soft marsh]

I said a few days ago that I gave up on pretty trains...I regret that. Now I need to build a second line for a loop and now I need to rebuild it

[sudden creek]

just said fuck it im starting over

i would give advice on trains but i aint the best at it

@iron valve does mine and yells at me if i fuck up slightly

anyways its 5 am so i am going to sleep gn chat

[hybrid nymph]

Goodnight 😴

[willow pond]

i did a completely new save when 1.0 dropped

[hybrid nymph]

I did too, played it the day it came out. I was supposed to play it with my best friend, but unfortunately he had a heart attack on September 10, 2024 and he passed away, so that didn't happen 🥺😭

He was only 26...

RIP my best friend 1998-2024

[lucid copper]

is there a chanel for no spoilers

[jagged nymph]

wdym

[floral bronze]

./spoiler

[lucid copper]

like spoilers about the game

[hybrid nymph]

Ahh okay I get it, I thought you were talking about me

[jagged nymph]

no there isnt a specific channel for talking about not spoilers

[lucid copper]

ok

[west jackal]

revan i feel the same way, but sometimes i look at the map (this is about mercer spheres)

[west jackal]

aw man im so sorry 🙁

i mean i know that prolly doesnt mean anything because we havent talked much and i barely know you, but damn... im sorry

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you, I appreciate it

[lucid copper]

one time my lizard doggo brought me a nuke

he has so much aura

[west jackal]

we love the nuke doggos

[lucid copper]

i wasted it but still very cool

[west jackal]

lol i have yet to explode one

was scared of the consequences

[lucid copper]

there is none

[hybrid nymph]

Same, one time he brought me a purple power slug

[lucid copper]

nice

[west jackal]

i didnt know they could do that! its normally like biomass lol

[lucid copper]

oh mine always brings me things i wont need for a long time (i think)

[jagged nymph]

wait, does that mean power shards have always been infinite 🤔

[west jackal]

i guess it does

[lucid copper]

yeah

[jagged nymph]

if youre really lucky

[lucid copper]

have you guys ever made a hypertube cannon?

[jagged nymph]

yes ofcourse

[hybrid nymph]

I did once, it goes super fast

[jagged nymph]

cant live without em

[hybrid nymph]

It goes so fast that my character starts glitching out

[jagged nymph]

i usually build a hypertube hub with cannons pointing to each one of my remote factories and each one has a cannon back

[lucid copper]

frist time i went one i went way to fast and went into the death barrier

[jagged nymph]

i made it to the top of the space elevator with one

[lucid copper]

i just use them for exploring

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message

[lucid copper]

but im also pretty new to the game

[jagged nymph]

what tier

[west jackal]

yep

somtimes i build them into a tube to direct my speed better

[lucid copper]

im working on phase 2 of space elevator

[hybrid nymph]

Hopefully you had a jetpack to not die

[jagged nymph]

nice

[jagged nymph]

it kills you when you get too high the same way as when you fall into the void

says youre leaving ficsit property

[hybrid nymph]

So question, if the project assembly at the top of the elevator do you see the platform or is it part of the sky box?

[lucid copper]

whats your guys favorite item?

[jagged nymph]

yeah the whole things modelled

[hybrid nymph]

Oh lol didn't know there is a death barrier at the top of the world

[jagged nymph]

as seen here

[lucid copper]

[hybrid nymph]

Oh nice had no idea it was modeled

So it's actually there are not just part of the sky box cool

[lucid copper]

and we still cant go up there

[jagged nymph]

yeah i foudn that interesting when i went up there

[jagged nymph]

i mean you can

it just kills you

[lucid copper]

i ment like walk and stuff

is there more boombox tapes around the map other than songs of conquest

[jagged nymph]

on my last playthrough i for some reason built a 40 smart plating/minute factory for phase 1

[lucid copper]

your set for life

also how

[jagged nymph]

i thought itd be helpful for some reaosn

so i spent 5 hours on it

[lucid copper]

damn

i dont got that kind of time to play factory game

(on weekdays)

[jagged nymph]

oh you just wait

you will sink all of your time into this game

hundreds of hours, your family wont see you

[lucid copper]

all my family also plays this game

😭

[jagged nymph]

then you will see them all the time 24/7

[lucid copper]

👍

[hybrid nymph]

I just got a job so I won't have as much time to play

I got a job as an online English tutor for Princeton University

[lucid copper]

oh nice

[hybrid nymph]

I do NOT have an English degree, but I have a bachelor's degree in: philosophy, political science, and economics

which as I'm sure you're aware takes a lot of writing

[lucid copper]

how did you get that job?

[hybrid nymph]

I would write 10 page papers every week

I applied and got accepted

All they want is a bachelor's degree, which I have 3 of them

[lucid copper]

i suck at writing tbh

[hybrid nymph]

I used to be a highschool English teacher

Before I gave up and got a different job

Teaching sucks!

[lucid copper]

fr

[hybrid nymph]

So overworked and underpaid

I was putting in 50 hours a damn week!

[lucid copper]

k imma go to bed now

[hybrid nymph]

Okay sounds good, gn

[spare prism]

For power what do I need to watch? What line do I need to watch

Is it the orange and black line

[hybrid nymph]

The orange is your usage, the black line is your total power production

[spare prism]

They are very close to each other

[hybrid nymph]

As long as the orange does not exceed the black you're fine

[jagged nymph]

ok so capacity is the amount of power you can produce, max consumption is how much power you would draw if all of your machines are online, and the orange one is how much you are currently using.Generally, you want to keep the max consumption less than the capacity

[hybrid nymph]

Oof 😣

[spare prism]

I’m trying to get coal up and running but not all stufff is filled yet

My biomass just ran out

[jagged nymph]

as long as your coal is up and running you can get rid of all your biomass stuff

[spare prism]

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[winter island]

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[west jackal]

what do you teach now

[hybrid nymph]

I teach English at Princeton University

I'm a tutor in the tutoring center

$35 an hour

[west jackal]

oh nice! i actually think weve talked about that in the past lol

you make 35 an hour or it costs 35 an hour for tutoring

[hybrid nymph]

I make $35 an hour

Which is great because as a full-time student taking 16 credits it's perfect for me

[west jackal]

oh! youre going to school there? i made an ass out of myself assuming that you were a professor bc of your profile name

[hybrid nymph]

I'm taking 2 4 credit IT cyber security courses. And one eight credit German course

No no no I'm going to my local community college

[west jackal]

EIGHT CREDIT? wth

[hybrid nymph]

I just work there

Yeah it's a very intense class The German course is 8 credits

[west jackal]

most my courses ever are are 4ch

welp, i now have automated miner alt...

[jagged nymph]

m yes this sure is a satisfying factory

you could even say that it is satisfactory

[hybrid nymph]

That's pretty funny, a satisfying factory in satisfactory lol

A satisfying factory in satisfactory, wouldn't you say that's satisfactory?

[jagged nymph]

indeed i would

[hybrid nymph]

You want to know something ridiculous I saw when I was in Utah visiting my mom in December for Christmas?

I went with her to The local shopping mall, which for reference it snows in Utah a lot, and I said to them at the front of the store "It's December it's winter time so I'm assuming since all of the pools are closed except for the indoor ones that all of your swimsuits are 70% off?" And they looked at me like I was speaking a foreign language

[vagrant spire]

Hi guys, could you clarify the situation with drones a bit pls?

[hybrid nymph]

I stay away from drones, they're difficult to use and trains are objectively better

[vagrant spire]

=(

[west jackal]

what is difference between build mode default and build mode blueprint

[feral jay]

lol stupid fluids, I have a buffer with both the input and output pipes flowing at 600/min, but the buffer reads both input and output at 598/min

[hybrid nymph]

Trends don't require batteries, they're only slightly slower than drones are, and they have an inventory that is four times the size of the drones per car, and you can program trains to stop and pick up things from multiple locations

[west jackal]

use plut rods for drones then they dont need batteries

[feral jay]

Use anything but batteries and they don't need batteries

[hybrid nymph]

Oh wait really? I didn't know you could use any type of fuel for drones? 😀

[feral jay]

Just about any fuel, yeah

[vagrant spire]

Are you familiar with drones?

[west jackal]

im not sure what the limitations are, just that you can use nuclear fuel

[west jackal]

not enough to help probably

[feral jay]

I don't think they can run on ficsonium but that's about it

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch drones

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drones

[cursive crane]

Makes them faster as well, chart there^

[west jackal]

how does blueprint autoconnect work? its not working

[stone quiver]

What's difficult about drones.... send it to the location you want to pick up. Have a battery slave pick up and fuel your drone fleet

[west jackal]

how do i link something in screenshots? i have a splitter not splitting

[gritty kite]

@west jackal #screenshots message for this just replace the belt

[west jackal]

i replaced the belt it didnt fix it. replacing the splitter did fix it,i just wasnt sure if anyone else had come across that issue

[west jackal]

and how did you link to that

[gritty kite]

How i did it on mobile was open the message settings

Which is by tap and holding

On pc there's like a pop-up that appears when hovering over a message far right

If done correctly there's a copy message link option

[gritty kite]

People have in big saves (ive seen it in a kibz vid)

[warm finch]

How can I help you?

[hybrid nymph]

@gritty kite playing satisfactory lol just like the Ficsit Pioneer playing Minecraft

[gritty kite]

My dyslexic brain couldn't understand that at first

[hybrid nymph]

You should change your Minecraft skin to the Ficsit pioneer

Which is canonically named Becky

[gritty kite]

Hmmm maybe

[versed mesa]

I am also Dyslexic with high functioning Autism

[hybrid nymph]

I wish someone would make an Applied Energistics mod for Satisfsctory

[versed mesa]

Request it

[hybrid nymph]

Oh wait you can already do that with depots and industrial storage units kind of

Only thing you can't do is craft items from the depots in machines

Think about it, you can setup an industrial storage unit with a depot on top and it is part of the network

[warm finch]

yeah that would be so broken lol

[hybrid nymph]

How do I request it?

[west jackal]

what do you guys do to keep factories above the dunes in the desert

big flat platforms then make them look better?

[hybrid nymph]

I would love to have an ME system with 5,000,000 cable and 20 million quick wire lol

[warm finch]

That's what I'm currently doing in my 2nd save, yeah

[hybrid nymph]

In Minecraft in modded I had 1.2 million iron ingots and 51,000 diamonds in my ME system

[west jackal]

thats what ive done in the past, but then i never make them look better than a box.

and not a sexy box like sapphric showed

[hybrid nymph]

Where do I request a mod?

Do I email the creator?

[dense violet]

you make a mod to completely ignore half of the mechanics in the game, that's how

[jagged nymph]

Wdym

[hybrid nymph]

Oh I see, yeah that would be busted

I'll see if I can contact the mod creators

[jagged nymph]

Oh you mean an me storage-like mod

[hybrid nymph]

Yes 🙂‍↕️🤚💯

Glad we're on the same page now

[jagged nymph]

Would be hard to balance

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @cursive crane

[cursive crane]

Go there

[jagged nymph]

Making some potatoes rn

Or i should day cooking them

I am not spontaneously creating potatoes

[torn lynx]

hey, i cant dismantle anyhting i made in the blueprint, help?

[jagged nymph]

is it in the blueprint machine and you cant dismantle it? or you placed the blueprint and cant delete the stuff it placed

[torn lynx]

its in the blueprint machine

[jagged nymph]

what dismantle mode are you in

[torn lynx]

i was in bluepront mode, does that erase an entire blueprint i made?

if s othats cool, thank you for tellign me there are modes

[jagged nymph]

yeah, you need to be in normal

[west jackal]

dismantle blueprint is relatively new iirc

well shi im an old head, its probably been there for a while, i just remember when bps first came out you couldnt do that 🙁

yall think 12.5 motors is enough for early game?

[versed cosmos]

yes

i think i just do 5/min for my building materials lol

[stiff scarab]

i really wish the could implement turbines maybe some Hydroelectric Plant
for another source of energy let us really tap into hydro power

[versed cosmos]

ah yes but that would not be awfully polluting

[normal orbit]

theres a mod for that

[stiff scarab]

oh really????

[stiff scarab]

lol!!!! clean energy

[jagged nymph]

i was about to say "how about a wind turbine that is spun by the smoke from burning coal!" but then i realized thats almost basically what coal power plants do already lol

[versed cosmos]

yeah

also i think that's actually steam

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[versed cosmos]

because you constantly need to supply it with water

[jagged nymph]

thats why i said almost

[versed cosmos]

if it weren't steam that would imply a closed loop cooling system to reuse the water over and over again

[jagged nymph]

but the coal smoke is also relesased

[versed cosmos]

i dont think it has much kinetic energy

[jagged nymph]

its just not used to generate power

[stiff scarab]

let me build a dam so i can make some impulsive turbines

[versed cosmos]

or the combustion is really efficient and the amount of smoke isnt that much

[jagged nymph]

theoretically it could, but im sure theres a reason it isnt. Likely that you cant really extract much energy from it

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[jagged nymph]

making the smart plating for phase one rn

[versed cosmos]

all automated or just feeding rplates and rotors to an assembler?

[jagged nymph]

the plates and rotors are automated, but im too lazy to connect them to the thing cause theyre already hooked up to my storage system

[versed cosmos]

yeah fair enough

[jagged nymph]

so im just taking them from there and poppping them in the machine

[versed cosmos]

that'll probably work for the rest of the game tbh

put some containers down by the assembler making smart plates to dump the plates and rotors in

[jagged nymph]

maybe, but i like to automate the elevator parts fully

[versed cosmos]

oh i assumed this was your first playthrough

[jagged nymph]

nah

#screenshots message

heres how its goin so far

[versed cosmos]

are you storing screws?

[jagged nymph]

yeah, just 20/m

its just the excess i didnt need

[versed cosmos]

ah ok

[jagged nymph]

thuoght i may as well store it just incase i need it for something

[versed cosmos]

the awesome shop takes screws to build

that's the only thing

[normal orbit]

screws arent used for building

outside of making the awesome shop

[jagged nymph]

well i had some excess and i thought i may as well store them

or ig i could sink em

[versed cosmos]

send to sink!

[jagged nymph]

yeah ill do that

kinda forgot i have that unlocked already

[normal orbit]

with alt recipes like stitched plates, steeled frames, steeled rotots, heavy encased frames you can completly remove screws from your production and wont need to make em at all :p

[jagged nymph]

i need them conrete foundations

[jagged nymph]

screws aint even that bad tbh

idk why people hate them so much

[west jackal]

how do you get elevaters to face the direction you want in floor hole

[jagged nymph]

what

[west jackal]

... uh

[versed cosmos]

for recipes that take lots of screws like heavy frames the alts are really good

[jagged nymph]

there we go just sent off phase 1

[normal orbit]

mousewheel to rotate it

[versed cosmos]

i never use stitched plate tho

[west jackal]

i tried that, but it changes after clicking place. it only does it sometimes and i dont know why

[jagged nymph]

i forget, can you get smart splitters this early?

[west jackal]

smart splitters are really early

they are rotors and ai limiters which are just copper sheets and caterium

[jagged nymph]

k i thought so

[west jackal]

so as soon as you unlock the copper sheet recipe you can get them

[normal orbit]

all you need is a caterium node to unlock them, can be done in tier 1

[jagged nymph]

time to go find some caterium

[jagged nymph]

no yuou need cioopper sheets

[west jackal]

i thought you needed copper sheet from the tiers?

[versed cosmos]

yeah you need copper sheets for the ai limiters

[jagged nymph]

oh wait do you

are copper sheets from the tiers?

i dont even remember

[versed cosmos]

yes

i believe they are unlocked in the part assembly milestone

[normal orbit]

ok tier 2, my bad

[versed cosmos]

when you get assemblers and modular frames and so on

[jagged nymph]

ah ok

[normal orbit]

still early

[west jackal]

yes very early. one of the first things i unlocked

[jagged nymph]

yea hthey are i just checled

I CANT FOCKIN SPELL

uh i just found a supercomputer at a crash site

[west jackal]

yea

[versed cosmos]

sink it

[west jackal]

cant do nun wit it yet

[jagged nymph]

OH YEAH

[versed cosmos]

some nice early points

[west jackal]

keep computers and oscilattors, they are useful but sc cant do nun

[versed cosmos]

yeah

[jagged nymph]

mhm

[versed cosmos]

crystal oscillators are great because you cant automate them until you get manufacturers

[normal orbit]

circuit boards too, which can be used to unlock dimensional depots early

[west jackal]

you dont need circuit boards for dim

[versed cosmos]

its computers

[west jackal]

thats for pocket upload

[versed cosmos]

for upload from inventory

[jagged nymph]

i nneeeed the concrete foundations

default ones look so bad

[versed cosmos]

yeah thats my first purchase as well

[west jackal]

you dont even need that for DD :). but i went to the death swamp and found some computers and used for pocket upload 😄

frfr

[jagged nymph]

i remember my first playthrough... never used foundations....

[normal orbit]

ah was for the slooping unlock

[jagged nymph]

gave up at like tier 6

[normal orbit]

so you can double sluggos

[jagged nymph]

i also need me some blade runners

[west jackal]

yeah i got those like an hour or two into the game because i found some modular frames early

[jagged nymph]

nice

[normal orbit]

theres a pair of blade runners in the lizard doggo cave

[west jackal]

i hate moving around without those

[jagged nymph]

the what now

[west jackal]

if thats the cave i think it is, screw that cave it wouldve taken me 12 hours to run to the cave from dunes

was quicker/easier to just make them

[normal orbit]

cave off of gold coast, yes. theres a helmet unlock, xeno basher, blade runners, and a bunch of materials in there

[jagged nymph]

why did i never know that exists?

[west jackal]

what is the helmet

i saw it ina video but idk what it does

[jagged nymph]

i looked it up, its a skin for your head helmet

[normal orbit]

doesnt do anything, just a cosmetic unlock

[jagged nymph]

im not SUPER far from there

[west jackal]

heck you man 😠

[jagged nymph]

i mean its like half the map

[normal orbit]

just bring some materials to build ramps and foundations to get around

[jagged nymph]

my inventory is always full to the brim with building materials

[west jackal]

also zipline unlock is pretty early

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[west jackal]

i just make ziplines everywhere to get around

[jagged nymph]

im mining some caterium rn

there we go got the smart splitter researched

[west jackal]

good job

i have a blueprint in a tab but it doesnt show in the tab when i open the blueprint screen, in the blueprint maker it shows that its in that subcategory, and i can search for the blueprint, but its not in any category if i look for it

i fixed by moving category then moving back. idk

[jagged nymph]

holy shit that supercomputer gave me 22 tickets

[torn lynx]

i accidentally hit cleare dblueprinjt on sometin g i was trying to save3

[jagged nymph]

load your last auto save

[torn lynx]

gsaafsdadsfadfsdafsdafsdfasdfasdafsadfsadfskolbsadnfpviousadhbfpfiysugbfop9isuygbfp9asuhfp9aseuhfp9waosuefh

it isnt loading

[jagged nymph]

there we go unlocked coal power, i think thats a good stopping point

[torn lynx]

ok it says session creation failure

if this save doesnt work and i lsot my blueprint im gonan add myself to the lore and become a problem

(ok i just lost some arcetectural design we good

[jagged nymph]

thats why i progressively save stuff as im doing it

in any context

ESPECIALLY programming

everytime i finish typing a line i press ctrl+s out of habit

[torn lynx]

ok, on toip of the blueprint non save i ahve to deal with a crappy external storage that disconenctes randomly

[west jackal]

can you set default for conveyor as different than default for other buildings

i mean default for logistics

[normal orbit]

?

[cursive crane]

What are you asking here

You can sort things onto different belts with the ||smart splitter||

[jagged nymph]

the huh in the what now?

[west jackal]

no sorry im tired and trying to push through the factory

the paint customizer, can you set default colors for logistic items as a different color than production buildings

[jagged nymph]

genuinely what is this t ryna say 😭

[jagged nymph]

ohh, im not sure

[normal orbit]

yes, right click a swatch and check what you want it to apply to when building

[cursive crane]

Whatever comes up when you right click is what you get.

You can paint an area/certain things a certain way with the custom swatches, and if you change that custom swatch, those things you selected with that swatch will change.
But unfortunately the defaults are what they are

There is one of them you can just apply, and it doesnt change with the swatch, cant remember what its called, but thats prob not what you are asking for

[west jackal]

i clicked standard and now i cant unclick it wtf

im so freaking tired sorry

[cursive crane]

Go to sleep and try again tomorrow lol

[west jackal]

WAIT ITS THE GECKO FROM RANGO I REMEMBER YOU

sorry brain momeny

its not 3am yet im fine

[west jackal]

thank you. i dont think itll want what i do

[jagged nymph]

Im so hungry

[west jackal]

same

[normal orbit]

eat somethign then :o

[dense violet]

I'm very sorry that there's just no solution for your problem

[short fiber]

Is diluted packaged fuel good or should I reroll?

[west jackal]

YES

unless you have blenders

[short fiber]

Way too early for that

Just got into phase 3

[west jackal]

then yes. its amazing.

best alt

[sterile blade]

Compare how much oil you need to make X oil via one recipe Vs the other 😉 (the codex can help as you can set the same output/min for all production steps to see and compare the consumption of base materials)

[jagged nymph]

so apparently all of my biomass burners ran out of fuel at the same time?

[sterile blade]

Sounds like you must've fed them the same amount of Fuel before turning them on ^^

[jagged nymph]

theyre manifolded

with an autocraft solid fuel setup thingy

[tall lantern]

or maybe some ran out earlier, but you weren't using enough to notice

[jagged nymph]

i guess, jsut wierd that every one of them would be ran out

[sterile blade]

How do you know they all ran out?

[jagged nymph]

none of them have fuel in them

[sterile blade]

And the biofuel production never stopped before this happened?

[jagged nymph]

it did

but it stopped before they were all full

about half of them were full when it ran out of leaves/wood

[sterile blade]

Sorry, the more you say the less clear things become...
Can you explain the whole system at once? XD

[short fiber]

I got wet concrete!!

[sterile blade]

Ie: how it's set up, how you fed it, how it failed, why were leaves involved together with solid biofuel...

[tall lantern]

sounds like it failed because they weren't keeping an eye on it 😛
just get to coal, problem solved

[jagged nymph]

ok so basically, i have 2 containers, one for leaves, one for wood. It crafts them both into biomass, them solid biomass. The output of that is manifolded into i think 15 machines, i didnt count. after it crafted all the wood and leaves into biomass, not all of the burners were full. About the first half were but the last ones only had about 100 solid biofuel in them. When my power cut, i checled the burners and they were all empty.

[jagged nymph]

yeah im working on setting up coal right now

actually i think i know what happened

i think the ones that werent full ran out, but i still had enough power to not shut it down then all the filled ones ran out at the same time since they all started full

[sterile blade]

My guess is that you were requiring little enough power that some burners went offline without tripping the grid. Then, after a longer while, even the full ones ran out all at the same time, causing the grid to fail

[jagged nymph]

.

[tall lantern]

told ya

[jagged nymph]

if you hold w and s at the same time it makes you go backwards

and a+d makes you go right

[wispy osprey]

Doing projects on a larger scale requires patience I wish I had

After some point you just get tired of placing buildings over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

All just to watch funny number go up

Conceptually Satisfactory is a hard game to present to someone as an actual game to enjoy

Apparently the "fun" to some people is watching their perfect math work out after hours of writing ideas down

[west jackal]

this factory is going to be ABBORANT if it doesnt work bc its 4am and i wont remember what i was doing

[cunning glade]

Hours of building but yeah

Im realizing I should've made ads in my computer factory

[west jackal]

the mean the last 6 delusional hours making motors

[cunning glade]

Think motors are bad wait till u get too turbomotors

See if I don't make the ads in the same factory I'll need a drone for super computers can one drone stop at multiple spots?

Cuz I feel like for supercomputers one drone could eventually fill up all of the spots that would need them

[jagged nymph]

coal power is set up

ill prolly need to expand it but thatll be easy to do

[versed cosmos]

8 coal generators and 3 water extractors!!!

[jagged nymph]

i know

[unreal swan]

How can I join my friends server without needing him being online

[versed cosmos]

you cant

[tall lantern]

make sure they're hosting an actual server, not just their local game

[versed cosmos]

assuming you mean theyre hosting it on their machine

[unreal swan]

what do you mean actual server