satisfactory

[west jackal]

thought*

[quasi warren]

Im forced to automate due to my mods lol. Cant just put a stack and be done with it

[west jackal]

yeah but i take long breaks 🙂

i only have around 2k hrs

[quasi warren]

I have over 700 T-T

[ornate saffron]

700 000?

[quasi warren]

I wish

[west jackal]

unfortunately i bought it on epic (this was before it came out on steam iirc)

i feel like theyve nerfed a lot of my pure nodes in the dunes 😠

[flint geode]

Ok i got a small little question here where i feel like that a full post in help is necessary:

ok the following stuff is buggering me. When building a blueprint and nudging it after locking it slides horizontally like intended but at some poinjt it moves diagonally up or down (sometimes in another horizontal axis) any idea?

[steel igloo]

my oldedst save which was last saved in 22 has 2200 hours on it and that was before dedicated servers >_>

wait no it wasn't this was my 2nd game, this was on a server

[west jackal]

my longest save was only like 250 hours, but that was like U5my oldest was last save in feb of 2020 has like 120H

well that "oldest" wasnt actually my oldest though because i started mid 2019

and i had cloud save disabled back then

[ornate saffron]

It moves in relation to the foundation it is snapped to

Often when this happens to me I have placed on a section of overlapping foundation

[flint geode]

ok this sounds like a plausible explenation but in my case theres only a flat area of 2m foundation with no overlaps

[steel igloo]

ok I found my real oldest with some saves from 21 in the folder it's only got 350 on it, that was from before dedicated

[ornate saffron]

Beyond what I mentioned i dont know. Ill keep a eye out though.

[flint geode]

sounds good. appreciate the feedback ❤️

[steel igloo]

#screenshots such a glorious mess

[quasi warren]

Holy spaghetti

[ornate saffron]

Dragon alignment of chaos confirmed

[steel igloo]

look, I got better

there's a couple of reactors down the canyon on the right and I had no idea what I was doing and it starts tickling about the point you get halfway down that canyon

[ornate saffron]

Chaotic is not inherently bad. Just a fact lol.

I dont get mad at leaves blowing in the wind

[west jackal]

i cant load my oldest

it got corrupted i think, it crashes when i try to load it

[ornate saffron]

My oldest loads but most the machines are broken and my fuel generators are under water

[steel igloo]

that was back when I still thought you needed to stockpile things so I have several industrial containers just full of both uranium fuel and plutonium fuel, plus I was burning the plutonium too and storing the waste at the bottom of the world in one of those bottomless pits there near the uranium cave and it ran for quite a while building up quite a bit of Pu waste

it was made long before you could use the jetpack at the same time as the hazmat suit so there's ladders everywhere because I couldn't fly in there because I'd die

[west jackal]

wait you can use both at same time now???

heck yeah

[unkempt blade]

you use one to be able to make the other

[west jackal]

huh

the hazmat suit requires jetpack?

[unkempt blade]

no, different equipment slots

[west jackal]

then wdym

[west jackal]

and it didnt use to

[unkempt blade]

yeah way back in EA

[west jackal]

i mean... dont say way back lol

making me feel old for playing since u1 in 2019

[unkempt blade]

1.0 was like a year and a half ago, it's been a minute 😆

[west jackal]

shi

[steel igloo]

so apparently I have 4 full industrial storage containers of uranium fuel ready to go because why not

[west jackal]

LOL

[steel igloo]

burn through 1 iodine filter every 3 seconds

[west jackal]

also some of the qol things are so nice now, like straight conveyor setting, im use to manually doing it all

although straight is pretty buggy sometimes

[steel igloo]

funny enough I think because I didn't use trains or any weird alt recipes for anything this is my most compatible with 1.0 save of all my builds, the train update broke all my old ones with trains because I didn't want to go back and deal with signalling and 1.0 broke all my nuke but this one

[west jackal]

haha

i tried loading a older train save and they ALL derailed

couldnt be arsed to fix it

my factories look SOOOO much better now, although i still like to clip conveyors

[steel igloo]

one of the updates reset the world objects so now it's got trees sticking through everything really lending to that old and abandoned and overgrown feel of it

[deep bloom]

Does anyone have a link to the pipelines and fluid guide

[leaden turret]

pinned in #math-and-meta

[deep bloom]

Cheers

[steel igloo]

oh I think this was from before you could upgrade belts and pipes in place I still have mk1 pipes all over the place

[woven sundial]

does anyone thinking using a 100+ inventory mod is cheating

[steel igloo]

pointless with dimensional depot

[unkempt blade]

maybe technically a tiny bit but the game is supposed to be fun for you and it's waaaay less cheat-y than other stuff I've heard 🤣

[woven sundial]

yeah true ive seen more then a couple mods that literally make it so you can fly and can automatically advance the game speed

[steel igloo]

dimensional depot + enough uploaders is basically "free build mode"

[woven sundial]

mid game its helpful for me because im yet to hit the dimensional depot

[west jackal]

dim depot seems soooooooooooo nice

[unkempt blade]

it's not vanilla and it gives you some sort of advantage but it's not the sort of thing that trivializes the game

[deep bloom]

What's the purpose of resource wells and how do they differ from nodes

[woven sundial]

im honestly so confused by what you just said

[deep bloom]

I think I used a wrong term

[steel igloo]

before the DD I just made a train from my main base to wherever I was building and set it to go back and forth and bring building mats I needed a lot of, steel, concrete, iron plates, rods, etc... and a few extra cars to store stuff needed in lesser amounts, then just went back to the train station to get stuff

[deep bloom]

Perhaps

[quasi warren]

Yea. You can have mask, hazmat, jetpack/hoverpack/parachute (parachutes are no longer 1 time use), and blade runners on at once

[unkempt blade]

you use different machines to extract resources from them otherwise it's basically the same as like an oil node or whatever

[steel igloo]

you mean water and oil wells that need the presurizer thing, and nitrogen?

[deep bloom]

Ah, cheers

[woven sundial]

oh basically just oil and nitrogen and such

[deep bloom]

Yes the oil and water ones

Is it just access to more of a resource for later game

[woven sundial]

yeah basically no difference besides the tool you need to extract their content

[steel igloo]

they're a more expensive way power wise to get the resource, but the water ones can be useful since they're often far from other water sources

oil ones are just a different way to get the oil

[deep bloom]

Interesting

Cheers

[fluid crow]

if quite a bit less oil well oil than oil on the map

[woven sundial]

one thing i wish their was a reasonable mod for would be power slugs like just more but not like overly more where itsway too cheaty

[quasi warren]

There are so many slugs on the map lol

[west jackal]

yeah, i just drove truck full of materials back and forth (or my more advanced method was to setup hypercannons both directions and launch back and forth with resources)

[fluid crow]

you ||can make them||

[woven sundial]

well thats at tier 9

[quasi warren]

Parachutes are now a viable earlygame item for decending (cant spell)

[west jackal]

wait wut

[west jackal]

I didnt know that!

[quasi warren]

Tier 9. Yeah

[west jackal]

also... good i should make one

[steel igloo]

tier 9 is basically just cheat mode unlocked

[quasi warren]

yea. Not one time use anymore

Which drove me INSANE

[woven sundial]

yeah quantum encoding basically enables you to make anything you want with the cost of using other resources

[west jackal]

😮

[deep bloom]

Is using all the oil in the spire coast to make a turbofuel powerplant that makes 37,000 MW low. Which is a few of each purity.

[steel igloo]

don't you mean converters

[quasi warren]

Using the converter right?

[west jackal]

bazil, you arent even hitting 50GW?

[deep bloom]

No I think it's because I'm using the default recipe for Turbofuel

[woven sundial]

uh yeah i think so not entirely sure i havent been on satisfactory in like 4 days and im midgame in the run im on

[west jackal]

oh yeah

[quasi warren]

You could do the heavy oil residue with blenders to get a ton of fuel for turbofuel

[steel igloo]

for some of my BPs I have to chain build them one after another I had to add 12 concrete, 12 wire, and 20 steel uploaders XD

[west jackal]

i like the one with sulfur

[fluid crow]

better build some rf and a few hundred more generators

[west jackal]

but you need blenders for it

[deep bloom]

I'm mid game, I do not have blenders yet

[quasi warren]

All the fuel in the blue crater I wana use for turbo. And I need to use around 303 fuel gens? 302 fully overclocked to 250%

[quasi warren]

Do a closed loop system of diluted packaged fuel

Supply it with the initial containers. And let it run

[west jackal]

i use dpf mid game

the problem is it burns a lot of the power it creates

[quasi warren]

Good early game power source

[woven sundial]

one mod i love is my unlock all alternate recipe mod because i know better then to not abuse them just use them so i dont have to literally explore the whole map just to get a better reinforced plate alt

[quasi warren]

Dpf?

[deep bloom]

Hmm I'll have to look into it

[west jackal]

diluted packaged fuel, its what youre talking about

[reef basin]

it's practically same amount as df setup tho

[quasi warren]

Ah. Forgot the abbreviation lol

[deep bloom]

It's just Ive already built everything and there are over 300 machines for my power plant.

[west jackal]

usually just have an industrial container of empty containers for every 8 packagers

[woven sundial]

whats the max power production you guys have seen?

[olive crest]

yo guys I need help with train signaling and routing, any specific channel for that?

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533

[quasi warren]

Ill send my plan for the blue crater in #math-and-meta

[reef basin]

1:1:1 setups are generally easier

[west jackal]

ive never looked at power reqs of standard df, by the time i have blenders im doing turbo

[deep bloom]

Cheers Ive seen everyone build an oil plant at the blue crater. Is there a reason not many people do it at the Spire Coast?

[quasi warren]

Blue crater has nearby coal and sulfer

So most people do turbofuel there

[deep bloom]

Makes sense I had to circumnavigate the world for sulfur and coal with trains

[steel igloo]

I got a little over 500GW on my current one, most I've achieved yet, tho I'm mildly cheating, tho for me it's more of a reward for hard work prior to 1.0 than outright cheat

[woven sundial]

on my original world i started when i first got the game no mods im outputting 11M Watts and consuming about 10.1M

[west jackal]

are all the sam sites near dune desert blocked by nob rocks

[woven sundial]

the whole map is a factory basically its utterly insane

[neon roost]

Hello guys !

I have a problem with one of my trains.
It has derailed somewhere across the map, but I can’t click on it to put it back on the tracks because it’s stuck behind mountains.

I can see the red flashing icon on the map saying the train has derailed, but I physically can’t access it or interact with it.

Is there any way to reset the train or bring it back to the rails without being able to click on it directly?

It’s really annoying because the red warning icon keeps blinking on my map.

[woven sundial]

honestly had that issue before you may just want to give up on retrieval and attempt to disable the icon

there isnt really any way if you cant physically access it

[steel igloo]

maybe a save editor?

[quasi warren]

Like scim or something yea

[fluid crow]

can't you click to re rail it where it left the track also

[quasi warren]

Some are, others are in caves guarded by creepy spooders

Or radiation

[leaden turret]

creepy spooders implies the existence of suave spooders

presumably a suave spooder is a tuxedo cat.

[steel igloo]

I can't think of any sam nodes readily accessible without deep caving or blasting often both

[quasi warren]

Theres one in the DD up on a mountain

But its surrounded by small rocks of uranium.

[leaden turret]

misreads "sam nodes" as "sam noodles" and realises it should probably be nap time

[quasi warren]

Its a normal node too I think

Not that big of a deal early on

Build the miner at a distance. Belt it

You just gotta deal with radioactive hogs

[west jackal]

fair enough, the only one i know if is under rocks, im trying to unlock nobbies since i have pipes from a crash site but hit a wall

[quasi warren]

I usually go in, use inhalers, mine the bit I need to unlock the tree. Build the miner. Belt it. And I can get all that sam with no danger to me

[west jackal]

its fine i just unlocked phase 1, so i can get nobs soon

[steel igloo]

you can just setup like 12 portable miners on it if you just want to collect a bunch for research and a few early unlocks

[quasi warren]

^

I do that with every ore except for uranium lol

[west jackal]

i love the new ADA voicelines

[quasi warren]

More sassy then before

[west jackal]

i know i love it

i just got the kitties and or puppies line

[wispy osprey]

I figured we weren't gonna get 1.2 in q1

Was fun to dream though

A lot of that stuff is still in testing

[west jackal]

what new stuff is coming in 1.2

(big idea bullet points)

[wispy osprey]

Fluid truck, fluid truck station

Those are the main ones

Maybe some train tweaks

[leaden turret]

• fluid trucks
• new game mode (probably randomised resource nodes but not confirmed)
• new version of Unreal Engine (currently on EXP branch)
• rain (plus other weather stuff)
• boats
• golf

[west jackal]

FLUID TRUCK?!

wow that does sound neat

[wispy osprey]

Knowing devs it likely will be as disappointing as fluid train cars

Packing and unpacking is just too good to pass up

[tidal dock]

Why does every game need weather? Are your factories going to stop working if they get too wet?

[covert quarry]

is it recommended to upgrade from fuel to rocketfuel and skip turbofuel or go through turbofuel first?

[steel igloo]

the only thing fluid trucks and trains could POSSIBLY be useful for is ||photonic mater and DMR because you can't package those|| but there's not really a reason to transport those anyway

[wispy osprey]

Its an added decorative touch to the world. Nothing added will damage factories

[tidal dock]

that's a plus then

[steel igloo]

they had rain in it before and it was very nice, I miss it

[tidal dock]

I'm just used to weather being extremely punishing and not adding to the enjoyment of the game

[steel igloo]

nah it's just atmospheric

[wispy osprey]

Satisfactory is not that type of game yeah

[fluid crow]

if you can make rocket fuel sure, otherwise leave room for the blenders and extra pipes if needed

[steel igloo]

you'd get a wetted effect on everything and some splashes it was just a nice soft gentle rain, no game effect just made the world feel more alive

[quasi warren]

Same ngl

[wispy osprey]

And there's apparently gonna be more than just rain

[steel igloo]

did they remove/break the glowing mushroom nights in the swamp, I've been building in the swamp a lot lately and I swear I haven't seen one of those in weeks

[wispy osprey]

I honestly didn't like ficsmas snow much. It's literally just a render layer that ignores if you're inside structures or caves

Also just passes through the ground

[covert quarry]

what is the best recipe for turbofuel?

[steel igloo]

I think just the base one

[quasi warren]

Base one imo

Especially when combined with diluted fuel

[steel igloo]

yeah you basically waste crude by pumping undiluted HOR into the direct method

[west jackal]

did the sea level rise?

[unkempt blade]

I like this recipe. And thankfully there's way more oil than I'll ever need for a single save

[ornate saffron]

many moons ago before 1.0

[west jackal]

.. oh lol

[ornate saffron]

my save from pre rise is borked lol

[west jackal]

yeah...

out of curioisty how many hours do most of yall take to get coal?

ADA just roasted me for taking 5h to make coal power

[ornate saffron]

1000hours in game prob 2000 hours planning out of game

[west jackal]

lol i was asking for serious answers 😛

[ornate saffron]

that is serious. i plan out my factories math in spread sheets before turning on the game. I spend way more time planning then playing

[west jackal]

but 100 hrs in game to make your first coal power plant?

just for 32 gens?

[ornate saffron]

fixed

[covert quarry]

does anyone know where people make like those diagrams for factories?

[ornate saffron]

tools is the go to for calculators

[fluid crow]

satisfactory modeler on steam

[west jackal]

bro what 1000?? thats longer than multiple of my saves put together 🙄

[covert quarry]

thanks

[ornate saffron]

getting there imma mod after 2k

[west jackal]

yeah t9?

[ornate saffron]

tier 9 ?

[waxen locust]

i think- as an "older" player interms of game updates.

rain is the most exciting thing for me XD

[ornate saffron]

I thihnk there was weather before my time then they got rid of it for optimization

[waxen locust]

I don't think it was optimization the reason they got rid of it. I think it was due to an update that broke the code, and due to it being cosmetic only. they didn't fix it infavor of actual gameplay,Since I think this was U5 or U6

[fickle locust]

Yeah I miss the rain, it was nice

[west jackal]

yeah there def was rain at some point

[ornate saffron]

m,akes sense i am pretty srue i started u7

[waxen locust]

IT WAS SO PRETTY

[waxen locust]

lemme google since I was just yoinking that time period from memory. but I know for sure it was before all the cosmetic buildings added in update 7.

[waxen locust]

ah, it was update 6 and removed during update 8 due to the unreal engine 5 upgrade. but it didn't rain in the dune desert.

so, I got the reason right. but not the time period XD

[ornate saffron]

my defintly played during 7 and 8, dont remember rain though. but my memory is.... odd

[waxen locust]

maybe you was in the dunes? but i think it was a kinda rare event.

[ornate saffron]

i just probaly never noticed to be honest. ADHD at its finest

[waxen locust]

M O O D

[ornate saffron]

hyper focus on saome things oblivous to others

[knotty wasp]

Anyone knows the "out of bond" shape of the map?

[waxen locust]

i remember roughly how it used to look. not anymore for post 1.0

[compact flicker]

Offshore oil when?

[ornate saffron]

pretty sure there is a mod for that

[waxen locust]

they are xbox...

read their username

[compact flicker]

:p

[ornate saffron]

i did. just didnt put it together lol

[ornate saffron]

likely never

[waxen locust]

so far. no confirmed information. plus the map is setup very strategically for factory placements and balance.
so I doubt we will get any new nodes anytime soon.

keyword being D O U B T. not impossible.

[compact flicker]

Was a half joke, just saw a really cool oil rig build on the subreddit

[waxen locust]

fair enough

[prime acorn]

Hey Pioneers! 🏗️

I have received permission from Community Managers Jason & Mikael to ask for your help with my final degree project! 🙏

As part of my graduation thesis, I developed SkyServer – a specialized hosting platform designed to handle resource-heavy games like Satisfactory. To complete my project, I need "real-world" data.

I am offering 100% FREE servers to the community.
This is non-profit. No ads, no fees. Just high-end hardware (i9/Ryzen, NVMe, high RAM) ready for your mega-factories. I just need you to play on them so I can test the stability for my thesis.

How to get a server:
Since links are not allowed in chat, please check my Discord Profile/Bio for the link or DM me directly!

[waxen locust]

I ain't touching that with a 10foot bargepole. I feel like if there was something like that, the devs would post about it themselves... but that's just me

[ivory condor]

<@&387163995947270144> above?

[tall lantern]

my first thought there is definitely "why"

• why is it free? And forever, according to the site, I'd have expected it to be more of a short-term thing if it's linked to student work
• what's the goal? what info are you after? thought there'd be more of an About section on there. Again, if it's a graduation thing I'd expect more info on there about said thesis, and I can't see that offhand

[waxen locust]

to me. it falls into the stereotypical "i'm a game dev and i need people to test my game for my class" BS.

[tall lantern]

stability and real-world data definitely feel like something I'd expect to see more time-limited

[waxen locust]

so- unless a dev, community manager or mod can confirm it and/or post it themself, I recommend no one touch that

plus AFAIK, community manager's don't accept DMs, so how would they "magically" have permission from both of them.

[quasi warren]

Yea. This part is true

[tall lantern]

do they not? i thought they did

[waxen locust]

i mean, there's no rule on it. but I don't think I've ever heard of the Community managers accepting DMs, especally if they arn't already footholds in the community.

There is a rule on not pinging staff. which I would assume DMing also falls under

[tall lantern]

that rule does also say "except you can ping the CMs"

[waxen locust]

it does.

[quasi warren]

So regardless, I am not trusting that whole thing

[waxen locust]

same. ain't going N E A R. unless i get official word from a staff member.

[tall lantern]

yeah there's definitely something triggering my spidey sense

[quasi warren]

Mhm. Its giving off that "im a game dev needing to test my game. Here's a link" type of vibe

So unless a mod or cm can confirm that. I aint doing it

[unkempt blade]

or your cat sense depending on your game settings

[waxen locust]

that's what I said-

free
forever
for a study
on the HIGHEST QUALITY HARDWARE
for EVERYONE
FOREVER PART 2?
NO ADS?

yea nah-

You'd have to shoot me in the heart, get god to revive me, show me god in the flesh. then. I might believe you.

[quasi warren]

^

[waxen locust]

did i forget to mention.

BOTH jason and mikael. "approved" it. but none of them made a post about it?

[west jackal]

do all biomass burners turn off when their capacity isnt needed

[ornate saffron]

yes

[waxen locust]

they are the only generators to do so

[west jackal]

i mean its kinda unimportant after getting coal, but good to know

i mean i have like 2400MW from coal but only 300MW from biomass lol

[quasi warren]

I use biomass as like an emergency backup. Where i have my biogens on a separate grid by using a power switch

[north cloud]

this is a discussion that was previously had in moderator tickets and is currently moderator approved. #satisfactory message

[west jackal]

see i just setup battery things

[waxen locust]

I still remember the main reason they did it. was because people would make enough water+coal to keep their power running, but then when their power would raise, the coal generators would turn on more. and people would complain that their water/coal wasn't working enough.

[quasi warren]

...huh...good to know

[unkempt blade]

I'm more skeptical about getting any real significant benefit from fancier hardware. My dedi servers runs fine on an old i5 and hand me down ram with other games also hosted

[west jackal]

fair enough, its frustrating trying to jump start

if your power goes down for any reason its hard to get system back up, especially higher tier factories

[waxen locust]

did it not bring up alarms when they said it's

Free. Perminantly. No ads. For a study. on Ryzen I9s??

and none of the devs verbilized it themselves?

[west jackal]

wait i just noticed, wtf is ryzen i9

[north cloud]

its for school work - take it face value for now. if it becomes an issue it can be re-evaluated.

[waxen locust]

one of the best CPU's out right now

[north cloud]

as far as we know its edu provided hardware

we are allowing this instance for now

[prime acorn]

One of the nodes is using a ryzen processor and the other node is using an I9

[waxen locust]

Yes. and need i remind you the most common phrasing in game dev scams?

[unkempt blade]

there was a slash in the original message 🙂

[west jackal]

oh lol

[waxen locust]

I missed that too. but I know Ryzen 9s exist, and so do intel I9s.

[north cloud]

no one is saying it is required to engage. if not your forte, then don't. but if its for educational purposes, go into it with knowing the basic rules around sharing pii

[quasi warren]

Its really sad that people online have to be this cautious just to avoid being scammed or hacked

[prime acorn]

And the service is free as long as the study needs to take place, after the final exam in about 3 months I will notify users to backup there servers and the service will go on pause until I find another way of providing it again

[unkempt blade]

Do we have any of the really ridiculous youtube saves available? You know... for education?

[waxen locust]

just the world of the internet we live in sadly.

Hell. theres even another scam comming around due to the age verification being implimented on discord everywhere.

[west jackal]

i mean if its legit, then thats pretty awesome! Surfer can you explain what kind of data you are going to be collecting for thesis?

[unkempt blade]

What are you studying? This sounds way more entertaining than anything my comp eng program would have approved? 🤣

[quasi warren]

... you have got to be kidding

[west jackal]

im EE and im making a 12lbs battle robot that spins at 300mph

[winged herald]

the website kinda looks like it was made with ai not gonna lie

[unkempt blade]

Your program sounds much cooler than mine. We mostly had corporate sponsors for final projects and it was all boring work-lite stuff

[prime acorn]

Its for my computer science/entrepreneurship class in switzerland. This project is for my Matura (kind of degree)

[waxen locust]

it comes across as a "forwarded message" from an 18+ server. and to see it, you have to "verify your age" because "you're in the teen age group" and it takes you to a faked cloudflare website and gets you to run code with windows execute.

[north cloud]

knock it off - let it ride. if someone decides to poke around it and finds an legitimate issue - open a ticket with moderators

[west jackal]

well most people wanted corporate sponsors, we didnt get one, so im designing an ESC for the robot, school gives budget of around 2500 and will pay for travel to conneticut 🙂

[stone python]

question, do you have mod integration

[quasi warren]

#off-topic-general

[prime acorn]

Yes there is full sftp access so you can use mod manager to install your mods

[ivory condor]

World we live in unfortunately

[stone python]

im claiming a seat right now

[west jackal]

what kind of data are you looking for/collecting?

like how long people spend rotting away on satisfactory...

[winged herald]

is there? because the website claims sftp is not working rn

[prime acorn]

I fixed the problem already just have to update the site

[winged herald]

did you make this website yourself? I dont really care, but there are a few aspects of it that shout AI, and the only reason i say that is because i work in web development and have seen first hand how AI handles web design.

also why use third party supabase instead of an integrated mariadb on the physical machine?

[stone python]

server requested.

[prime acorn]

Its a mix of lovable and myself some parts were made with lovable, like the backend, and other parts were made entirely by me

[winged herald]

is it just you working on this? or is it like a "team" of students?

[prime acorn]

Its just me working on this project.

[west jackal]

no hate, just curious, why does your school allow AI for a comp sci student making a website?

[naive palm]

How's it going pioneers. Building cogs and petting dogs I hope

[prime acorn]

We have a new police made in december 2025 that allows AI to assist in project creation, but not fully make the project for you

[winged herald]

front end webite work is not important at all to backend mechanics, or computer science in general these days. Anyone can throw a front end together in a matter of minutes, so most schools dont really care anymore

[sleek creek]

Anyone have a simplified (Pretend I am stupid) layout for Aluminum using both alt recipes? Or know of a guide? I am bringing everything in by train to the factory. So, not sure how to calculate throughput.

[reef basin]

which "both alt recipes"

[winged herald]

whats the bandwith on your ddos protection?

[sleek creek]

The ones that kill silicon. I forgot the names. 🙁

[unkempt blade]

I'm an AI hater but it's also where most of my clients are coming from right now. Not a bad idea to let you all get comfortable with it before you hit the job market

[west jackal]

fair enough

a lot of jobs are opening in my field rn for data center power solutions

[prime acorn]

Regarding DDoS mitigation: We utilize the upstream protection provided by our datacenter partner (Hetzner Online GmbH).

[west jackal]

id recommend using greenys calculator to help

[winged herald]

ai is a powerful tool. If used correctly it can help out a lot of areas in the development / cs world. The problem is some people are 100% relying on AI to do everything for them, and therefore are not learning anything at all

[west jackal]

hey man vibe coding is a vibe... untill you have to explain how the code works.. (or doesnt)

[winged herald]

which peering point? Im just curious because there's a group going around right now attacking server providers for minecraft server and just wondering if you'd be able to migate that at all. They took down Pebblehost like a month ago

(though pebblehost will never admit that, they claim it was from a faulty router in the datacenter)

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I have about 15 years doing devops and build and test automation the old fashion way but most of my consulting work the last ~2 years has been helping people get AI involved in those parts of their process. Some places make better use of it than others

[winged herald]

its a great tool, i use it daily for all sorts of things in life. I even make it help me flesh out dnd campaigns and world build

[prime acorn]

To be transparent: I am running on Hetzner’s backbone (AS24940) and utilizing their automated L3/L4 scrubbing to filter standard volumetric attacks.

[winged herald]

ah i see. I believe they attack sent through pebblehost was roughly 32TB/s. And word is they are starting to branch out and attack other server providers, for unknown reasons. was just curious if you had protection setup for people's servers in case that happened.

[west jackal]

32TB/s is wild, what do they gain from things like this? are they holding the server for ransom effectively? are just being malicious trying to ruin days

[winged herald]

i think just being malicious. Altough it happed not long after that one group threatened cloudflare. Cloudflare wrote an article about it shortly after, was one of the largest ddos attacks in history. Im not even sure where they got the computing power to perform an attack like that

[neon forge]

y'all ever had this moment where you get back on your world but everything is such undocumented spaghetti you have 0 ideas what everything is anymore so you don't know where to pick up from?

[winged herald]

no lol

[tall lantern]

that's what the TODO list is for

[winged herald]

just dont make spaghetti

[neon forge]

i made enough spaghetti to probably be labeled a terrorist in Italy

but on the upside iirc i'm on the final phase before finally finishing the game so idk if i wanna restart LOL

[winged herald]

restarting is fun. you can pick new spots, build different styles, different factories, ect

[lilac gust]

guys why is multiplayer so laggy

all of a sudden its just really laggy for one person

[stone python]

if it is only laggy for 1 person (assuming 3 people at least) then it might be their connection to you or the server

[last trail]

Its 2 people

[winged herald]

are we talking fps lag or ping latency?

[last trail]

Me and him, its horrible stuttering but idrk the difference 😭

[winged herald]

if they get fps drops, its their pc. If they are getting high ping its their connection to the server

[lilac gust]

ping latency

[stone python]

if they are connecting to you, then it could be either your own personal connection, or shreks

[west jackal]

yeah thats when i start the world over 😛

[naive palm]

I wouldn't say a 'moment' as much as 'every time I sign in after > 1 month'

[wispy osprey]

Signs with output rates are useful

[unkempt blade]

nah I use lots of signs in game + the ingame todo + an out of game notebook

[wispy osprey]

Some people even make spread sheets

[sick peak]

I wish. Now I’m stuck with an almost 400 hour save that is only on the start of phase 4

[unkempt blade]

also I only build spaghetti explicitly for the memes not because I got lazy building a real factory

[sick peak]

I did this for my first circular factory build and felt disgusted with myself

[stone quiver]

I do head calcs for everything. Now I just designing for prettiness

[sick peak]

So I’m putting 10x more effort into my nuclear plant

[unkempt blade]

it's fun to make it on purpose and know it doesn't really go anywhere/do anything that will require debugging

[sick peak]

Yeah. I’m probably never gonna see it again unless it breaks. Just a modular factory to make plutonium fuel rod parts

[stone quiver]

Just hide your spaghetti under the foundation

[sick peak]

I’m using drones and belts for everything cause I’ve decided to not do trains

[sick peak]

He knows

[stone quiver]

I mean... the foundation is a circuit board and your conveyers are traces

Why would I not use both sides.

[unkempt blade]

you ever eat a spaghetti sandwich? that's what it made me think of

[stone quiver]

Though, I can't figure out how to blueprint sub-floor stuff

Like do I have float my floor ?

[covert quarry]

wasnt there an alternate recipe that gave double the amount of HOR per crude oil?

[stone quiver]

Spaghetti sandwich with butter nom

[crude canyon]

did someone say spaghetti

[winged herald]

moms spaghetti

[sick peak]

That’s what I’m doing for my nuclear plant but I’m making the logistics floors look neat too lol

I’m planning to do a small one (the current plant I’m working on) and then a big one

[crude canyon]

I think it's 1.5x, but then you get diluted fuel

[sick peak]

Which tbh is pretty daunting

[unkempt blade]

yeah I personally don't think logistics floors make the logistics neater/easier to troubleshoot they just make the main floor appear a little tidier

[stone quiver]

Ya i just wish i could blueprint underneath the floor easier

[unkempt blade]

cramming all that mess into a smaller space just makes it worse if anything

[sick peak]

I agree. I did that for my aluminium plant and trying to rewire everything after messing up where goes what and clogging systems, I’ve learnt my lesson

[stone quiver]

I mean you can just run it underneath and not false floor it

[sick peak]

I’ve already put 400 hours into this save. What’s another 400 more

[stone quiver]

Then once everything is done. Box it up

[sick peak]

that’s true yeah

[unkempt blade]

yeah my problem is usually more that there's almost always a good amount of clipping just because it's a tight space so if something needs adjusting it winds up being a lot of tracing

[sick peak]

I mean for me it depends on the priority of the actual factory. Since the nuclear plant is my highest priority (I need it since my power has been maxed out), I want to make it really tidy and well so I can work with it

[stone quiver]

They do remove the problem of pathing around your structures so it's absolutely a great use. It's just annoying since I feel the game is designed to design from Z+ looking down. When I try to do stuff ups side down it's always player in way etc

[sick peak]

And pretty modular, even though it’s 10 nuclear reactors overclocked

[stone quiver]

I just use conveyer elevators to "jump" where I would have clipped. I still trace very clean lines

[sick peak]

Ngl I’m surprised by how efficient nuclear power is. Just takes many random resources

Not even using over 400 anything (outside of water) to make a full nuclear reactor loop excluding ficsonium

different story for my 40 nuclear reactor plant though

[quasi warren]

#screenshots message I wana do something similar with my new reactors im gonna make. As I need 4 rows of 9. Piping is gonna give me hell, but eh

[crude canyon]

guys, I think I'm starting to lose interest in this game ;-;
I didn't expect this. I only have 1200 hours

[stone quiver]

Are the lines clean for nuclear? For pathing the intermediate steps

Spaghetto. Have you designed... a spaghetto?

Low rise buildings... conveyers and parts in the yards

[quasi warren]

Burnout is completely normal

[crude canyon]

I've finished randomizer playthroughs, Sushi stuff, a functioning calculator, skyblock

[stone quiver]

But what about a spa Ghetto

[fluid sage]

o

[crude canyon]

Actually, I haven't finished satis+ nor the continuous spelev playthrough

[spring zephyr]

Is anyone elce having trubble loading into a save?

[fluid sage]

o

[winged herald]

man i love zoop

[neon forge]

see if i do that then i restart right next to the end and probably never actually finish the game XD

[winged herald]

does anyone ever actually finish satisfactory?

[neon forge]

suppose it depends on if completing space elevator counts as finishing LOL

i suppose if i do restart i can finally try another start location

[unkempt blade]

it means you beat the tutorial 🙂

[neon forge]

LOL

i should load up my save and post it in #screenshots with like "POV: hell" as the caption LOL

[stone quiver]

You can always just go to another start location. And make a new factory. Unless you enjoy conveyer 1 and gathering leaves

[neon forge]

i already did on this save LOL, i did a giant floating road of platforms to the desert LOL

posted a pic in #screenshots that should give a pretty good idea of what kind of mess we're dealing with here

[kind spade]

How much Plutonium waste does one Plutonium Fuel Rod make? 1:1?

[white dawn]

!wikisearch npp

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=npp

[white dawn]

^ wiki will have the rates in a table

[kind spade]

Yes thx

[neon forge]

you know in hindsight i think going all the way to phase 4 without trains may have been a mistake LOL

[naive palm]

Why use a train when you can run wobbly belts from one end of the map to the other?

[hearty prairie]

Can anyone help me, me and my friend are playing on ps5, we have 300+ hours and only now are having an issue where when my friend logs into my game he is stuck at a loading screen, he can rotate and sometimes move if i shoot him with a rebar gun but he cant see the game and eventually gets kicked back to the main menu, he can join other save files but not OUR world anyore, please help

[white dawn]

On the other hand you do get drones in P4, and it's quite easy to lean on those

The main thing you'd miss out on is a lovely scenic Pioneer transit system. :)

(Well, that plus the joy of watching a bunch of trains zipping around)

[naive palm]

A fellow pioneer. Pleasure to meet you!
I recommend sharing this exact same information in a thread within #1038092680493801533.

[neon forge]

rediscovering my own save feels like walking in some eldritch world with how messy and chaotic it all is, but it does worry me a bit for completing phase 4 lol

[zenith bridge]

I think the QoL improvement to rails in 1.2 would be dynamic routing.
Because what other other improvements can they make that haven't already been added?

[ornate saffron]

id be happy with less signal bugs

[sick peak]

Secret phase 6 where you can teleport items

[dense violet]

those are called drones

[neon forge]

wait, i'm looking at the hub and there's a tier that phase 4 unlocks, is there a phase 5???

[sick peak]

Nahhh like literally

[zenith bridge]

Yeah, true
But that that typically falls under patching

[dense violet]

yeah drones
you make sure the ends are powered/fueled and with NOTHING in between produce throughput to the other side

any 'teleporter' would still have a throughput

like drones

there's effectively no difference between drones and a teleporter other than the 'look'

[sick peak]

Yeah that’s what I’m getting at, the look

[dense violet]

put a box over the ports and don't stare at it. Teleporter.

[sick peak]

Might be pointless, but like

Shiny big portal

[dense violet]

you mean completely negating the entire concept of logistical management in a logistical management game? ^_-

drones are busted enough as it is.

[sick peak]

Why not

[dense violet]

why not comletely skip over the main mechanics of a game? fantastic game design idea, why didn't I think of it

[sick peak]

Ficsit wouldn’t complain

[dense violet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-facepalm-the-simpsons-gif-16763233

[sick peak]

You’re starting to get it

[white dawn]

There's mods, if that's what you want, of course

I'm sure it's already been done, probably a few times

[wide rampart]

To get fluids to go up, does the first pump need to be horizontal, or can it be vertical?

[sick peak]

Nah I moreso just said it as a joke to play into lol. I wouldn’t play this game if it wasn’t for logistics

[wide rampart]

I assume it needs to be horizontal, but I want to make sure.

[dense violet]

go mod instead of ruining games

[dense violet]

vertical is fine as long as the pump is within the current headlift

I generally put it under by a couple meters just as a precaution

[wide rampart]

Ah

So mine probably wont work

They are like 4m above my horizontal pipes

[sick peak]

Machines give 10 meter head-lift as a base no?

[dense violet]

as long as that 4m is within yoru headlift it's fine

[wide rampart]

Hopefully I did this right so I have a power source that doesnt need gathering

[ornate saffron]

I only expect maintence anything more is icing ^_^

[dense violet]

post some overhead images in #math-and-meta if you want some eyes on it 🙂

[wide rampart]

How would one do that?

I dont have a jetpack.

[brittle seal]

setting enemy aggressiveness to passive doesnt disable achievements right?

[dense violet]

build tall things or use photo mode , P

[jaunty jewel]

it doesnt

[neon forge]

holy mother of god i just looked at what phase 4 parts require and good god this is gonna be a nightmare to try to do on my clusterfuck of a save LOL

[fierce holly]

I am a dog who smokes cigarettes

[soft marsh]

hello all

[stone quiver]

Depends if you want to automate or not. You have the skills now. Build your factory!

[neon forge]

first i'd need to redocument what every assembly line even is

unless i just ignore everything i've previously assembled and just build new facilities for all of phase 4

[soft marsh]

Trying to decide between builds. I have a power field that works and is supplied entirely by drones. But last week I started a "Power Tower", as in a tower of generators and now I'm trying to decide if I want to reconfigure it all to these towers which have a lower overall footprint

[neon forge]

i already got magnetic field generators completed apparently so at least that's one bit done

[surreal ingot]

I cant wait to make 15 heavy modular frames per minute :D

[neon forge]

as depressing as it is, i may have to restart a new run and actually not make terminal levels of spaghetti, oh and also document what/where everything is

[tranquil zinc]

I keep accidentally hitting the ` (tilde) key which is opening a console command. But there is no keybinding for it in the setting, how do I disable it?

[lavish patio]

I can't use TSR for AA?

I'm on latest stable

[ornate saffron]

as far as i knoiw you dont. its part of the engine

[lavish patio]

I also can't seem to select vulkan

it defaults to dx11 (forced) if i do so

[ornate saffron]

are your drivers up to date?>

[lavish patio]

yeah

just updated actually

if i start with vulkan (forced) it says it "dx11 is not supported" whenever i edit a setting

[tranquil zinc]

maybe I'll rebind the key itself then

[lavish patio]

which makes me think that vulkan is not setup

It says TSR is VRAM intensive but like

surely it's not that bad

holy shit my gpu is being used 100%

in the main menu???

[real shale]

That could be because it's being told to do that, depending on your TSR settings will tend to depend on how "lazy" your GPU might be sometimes, at least if it's similar to how DLSS works

[lavish patio]

I don't want TSR for upscaling

I want it just for AA

It doesn't let me select it in the menu

okay well this new problem of 100% GPU utilisation is wild though

And in the main menu

[fluid crow]

satisfactory is armed and ready to fire

[whole robin]

I can't believe it only took 180 hours to start constructing a factory i can truly be proud of

Well, a product factory, I've already made a turbofuel factory that I'm proud of

[winged herald]

felt that, almost 100 hours in, still not proud of my factory lol

lmaoo

[whole robin]

Too true @ornate saffron 😔

[ornate saffron]

decided taht was to dark lol

[whole robin]

They got wiped by the truth nuke 💔

[lavish patio]

lmao

[ornate saffron]

sorry bout your gpu issues that sucks

[lavish patio]

Its alright

I realised it's kinda normal pushing 100% GPU usage trying to run ultra graphics at 240hz

like at 60fps maybe it wouldn't be 100% GPU

at 60fps it uses like 24%

[lavish patio]

and without any upscaling

[ornate saffron]

very true... i got my montir and gpu undclocked

[lavish patio]

underclocked?

too much power usage?

[ornate saffron]

nah just dont need the power. I play 60fps lock and my 240hz montior does makle a lot of heat

im a retired quake 3 guy im okay taking it slow lol

[winged herald]

when you get distracted by satisfactory and forget your noodles on the stove and burn them

[quasi warren]

Ill finally reach this point when I build a full turbofuel power plant. (My numbers and plan are in #math-and-meta)

[feral jay]

Wait, fuel generator indicator lights can turn yellow? I thought they could either be green or red on those...

[ornate saffron]

i just generally dont care about high frames. Im playing satisfactory not some high paced competitve game

[feral jay]

Wth does yellow mean on a fuel generator?

[quasi warren]

It means that it knows the fuel type. But cant get the full amount of fuel it needs

Like "I can work... just dont have enough items to do the work"

[feral jay]

Nah I just opened one up with a yellow light, they need 1m³ to run, and it had 1.1, with a yellow light

[quasi warren]

Red means there is too little fuel for it to actually function properly

[wise junco]

is it turned off?

[quasi warren]

I recommend turning off all fuel gens and let everything fill up

[feral jay]

Maybe there's a minimum it's willing to draw down to before it runs?

[quasi warren]

Then turn it back on. And diagnose problems from there

[feral jay]

Nah they work fine when they have fuel, they're all hooked up

All turned on all working, I'm just not sure what the yellow means

(well, they're all slowly filiing so I'm seeing yellows here and there)

[lavish patio]

true well

I paid for my whole GPU I use my whole GPU

It can do like 350+ fps on ultra I just uncapped it

the 100% usage is not compute bottlenecked

it's bus bottlenecked

[ornate saffron]

for sure i get that. to each there own

[lavish patio]

I paid way too much for my gpu to not use it all 😭

[ornate saffron]

i got mine when things where more stable

[lavish patio]

like price wise?

I got mine just before my gpu went up in price by $2000

lol

I got it late last year

[winged herald]

i got me a 6700xt for freeeeee

[ornate saffron]

soolid card

[lavish patio]

I got a 5090

for AI work

[ornate saffron]

ya, i got the 6900xt for sub $1000CAD at release

[lavish patio]

I had a 6900xt equvalent in my laptop before I got this pc

it is very good for sure

[ornate saffron]

desk top in my case but ya i like it. i dont care about pathtracing for the most part. but it looks great in Satisfactory. it s the only game i play with it on

[lavish patio]

satisfactory kinda doesnt use any of the new fancy stuff

and the fancy stuff it uses that I tried just looks bad

not worth it

(aside from upscaling probably)

[winged herald]

i love my 6700xt, i can load up minecraft with 1000 mods and shaders and still pull 300+ fps

[lavish patio]

thats probably got way more to do with your cpu

minecraft mods mess up your pc in the CPU area

[winged herald]

only a ryzen 5600 cpu, not the worst but not the best

[lavish patio]

Yeah that's decent

I got a ryzen 9 9950X3D for this one

[ornate saffron]

solid setup. its what i recommended for budsget builds for years

[winged herald]

i have no clue what im getting in satisfactory lol idk if theres a built in fps counter or not

[lavish patio]

I dont think there is

I use rivatuner statistic server to get my fps

[ornate saffron]

i use the one built into steam... well i often do

[winged herald]

oh yeah i have taht

[winged herald]

didnt even know steam had one lol

[lavish patio]

dam i cant show my fps pic

files.v15.studio/08c83d1eb3db717e08594301a4208407

put that in your browser to see

[winged herald]

looks sketch ngl lol use imgur

[lavish patio]

its my personal site to upload everything

[ornate saffron]

or just post it in #off-topic-media

[wispy osprey]

Could just say how many fps you have

[lavish patio]

imgur is not available in my country

[ornate saffron]

to heavy in the goon scene. i get it

[lavish patio]

its in off topic now

It's capped

ultra settings

[winged herald]

hmmmi have rivatuner open but its not showing the fps on satisfactory. the little counter that usually appears isnt appearing

[lavish patio]

do you have msi afterburner?

you need to like

configure it a bunch and then pray it works or smth

depending on the weather outside it'll work

[winged herald]

ohh right

i dont use these apps much lol

[lavish patio]

yeah me neither

[fluid crow]

satisfactory has one Stat FPS

[lavish patio]

omg it has "awesome shop dark mode"

idk what awesome shop is but yippie dark mode

[fluid crow]

at least you won't have to worry about it blinding you

[lavish patio]

yup

I have maxed out every setting, now i can finally play this game.

😭

[ornate saffron]

i should work on some spread sheets for satisfactory so i cna play this weekends

[winged herald]

75fps on ultra isnt the worse i guess

[ornate saffron]

lock it to 60 and youll never see any flux

dips are what moslty breaks immersion

[winged herald]

using almost 16gb of ram though lmao

[ornate saffron]

im guessing thats the amount you haver ?

[winged herald]

no i have 32gb

[ornate saffron]

ah your fine then ^)^

[cursive crane]

I found a massive bug with SCIM, who was the scim guy again?

[fluid crow]

satisfactory only using 6GB

[lavish patio]

whattt???

[ornate saffron]

its has its own qandA

[lavish patio]

I'm using only 4GB of vram???

[winged herald]

no not gpu ram, like actual ram i mean

[fluid crow]

same

[lavish patio]

ohh

[winged herald]

im using about 4.4-4.6 vram on the gpu

[ornate saffron]

that sounds right. they did a good job optimizing.

[leaden turret]

scim has it's own discord, refer to discord icon on scim website

[versed mesa]

👋

How are you all

[feral jay]

Hey cool, new boombox tape!

[stoic spear]

im trying to figure put how to get 12 output to 5 inputs

[pliant prawn]

I'm having a thought (two brain cells working hard over here, I know) about the pressure wells. Would it be fair to say that there's a bit of a disconnect with how they communicate their values? Like on the map you see the things say purity levels for each well node, but they don't match regular nodes. Would it not be kinda helpful to at least re-label them somehow? As like a reminder that "pure" doesn't mean the usual max but actually means half?

[fluid crow]

the oil extractor is the one with the odd value really since all mk1 does 120/m@100%

[swift turret]

load balancing magic

[stoic spear]

ehhhhhhhhhhh

[swift turret]

yes

google it

[stoic spear]

a mod?

[fluid crow]

like what part are you having a hard time

[stoic spear]

how to do it

[lavish patio]

are there blueprints in this game?

[stoic spear]

i have 1 brain cell the size of an atom

[lavish patio]

put splitters and mergers

[fluid crow]

how many items per belt and what size belts do you have

[lavish patio]

the items per belt is kinda irrlevant here i think

[swift turret]

No load balancing is splitting and merging belts until it returns the value you need

[lavish patio]

surely they don't want to take 12 belts and magically merge them into 5 with the same capacity

[stoic spear]

12 with 100 each and split into 5 but 4 need 270

[lavish patio]

honestly

[stoic spear]

funny story

[swift turret]

just do research into load balancing

[lavish patio]

make a 12 to 6 merge and then merge the remaining 1 back into the input

(have 6 mergers, merge all 12 two by two)

then loop back the extra output into an input by another merger

but ig that wouldn't be fully balanced

[stoic spear]

i do have a 1-5 load balancer

real quick

look at screen shots

[lavish patio]

what the fuck

[stoic spear]

lol

[swift turret]

thats not a load balance thats a load destroyer

[fluid crow]

balancer is almost never the way to go in this game just sayn

[winged herald]

manifolds

[swift turret]

some people just want to balance loads

[fluid crow]

I get it but....

[feral jay]

Some people just like to watch things zip around the belts on complex load balancers

[swift turret]

and thats their skill issue to worry about

acutal pro players just use manifolds 💪

[stoic spear]

I will probably take it down in like 500 hours

[feral jay]

Nah, I have a bunch of 4->3 or 5->6 or whatever balancers blueprinted for... reasons... and I do like watching them do their thing

[vestal hill]

Just have 4 priority mergers with 3 of the input belts each. Coming off of those 4 mergers is 4 mk 3 belts, and then on each of the four mergers put a smart splitter in one of the belts, and send the output that goes towards the priority mergers to be “any” and any other output to be “overflow”. Then merge all the overflow belts. This is your 5th belt. Finally, on each priority merger, put all inputs to “high” except the one with the smart splitter

Someone smart can illustrate it or say it better but that’s what I’d do

[fluid crow]

have a sushi belt travailing the perimeter of the map that caries everything

[vestal hill]

My storage system is optimized for sushi belts yet I use trains for everything

[fluid crow]

I like sushi train

[vestal hill]

You are mad

[swift turret]

My storage is optimized for dimensional depot. Trains are overrated

[vestal hill]

But..

It’s not like there’s a dimensional extractor

Right…?

[swift turret]

yeah so you just remake anything from scratch instead of moving it

[vestal hill]

I’m confused

[swift turret]

😎

im actually running out of all basic materials cuz I deleted my old factories

[vestal hill]

That sounds like a smart thing to do

[fluid crow]

sushi train everything comes out at max speed and whatever doesn't get sorted somewhere trash

[swift turret]

if you saw what they looked like before I deleted them, you'd done the same thing

[vestal hill]

You don’t need them to be pretty

They can just be 1-floor 3-constructors

[swift turret]

im in phase 4 everything has to be redone

[vestal hill]

And you’re set for all your crafting needs

[swift turret]

for some reason I kept over 3k computers

and like 600 super computers

as well as like 10k batteries but no basic materials

[fluid crow]

an industrial storage full seems like a good amount of most things

[swift turret]

double it

[winged herald]

and give it to the next person

[fluid crow]

unless it's some kind of I'll make lots and never need to again

[swift turret]

I always go for the bare minimum

so I can never export it, just goes right into storage

[fluid crow]

I couldn't justify leaving turbo ammo setup when I could make 12 containers full in a very short time

[winged herald]

chat i need motivation, i built my factory too small and i cant fit my second floor of constructors the way i want to and i really dont wanna tear it all down now 😭

the entire first floor of smelters (all preloaded with iron ore and full of iron ingots) has to move 2 tiles east and west

[fluid crow]

just walk away and build another one

[winged herald]

lmaoo but all the good iron nodes are here, and i dont have trucks yet 😭

[swift turret]

you always have room to build up

I dont wanna hear excuses

[winged herald]

i am, each floor will be a seperate thing, like first floor is iron plates, second floor iron bars, third floor screws, ect. problem is i cant fit the constructors and the belts the way i wanted to and still leave room to walk down the middle

i made it too small, even though its like 10x10

[swift turret]

just merge them up put lifts on them and put them up to the next floor

[fluid crow]

I try to error on the side of extra space

[dense violet]

build another factory elsewhere

[winged herald]

i dont think your understanding my issues. i cant merge anything, theres no room. both lines of constructors are back to back because i didnt give myself enough room

[dense violet]

there's like 80,000 iron ore pm on the map. You'll be ok

[swift turret]

make room

unless you built in a cave theres always room

[winged herald]

well thats what im about to do, i just dont have the motivation rn to tear down all the smelters to push them back 2 tiles

the idea was two rows of smelters, lifts directly out the smelters and up to the next floor, then a splitter manifold going into the constructors

[swift turret]

2 rows of how many

[winged herald]

8, 16 total smelters, all full of 100 iron ore and 100 iron ingots lol

[swift turret]

that wouldnt take long to tear down

[winged herald]

and i think i have to redo the logistics floor underneath also, which is full of about 600 iron ore

[stone quiver]

My first attempt at aesthetics has resulted in some nicely laid blueprints... with a lot of glass 😅

[winged herald]

oh i lied, its 22 smelters, so even more iron in my inventory lol

[stoic spear]

With 5 turbo fuel refineries does it need 48 fuel power generators

[stone quiver]

Just look at fuel out and refinery demands.

[jaunty vault]

37.5 smart plating per minute done 💪

[cursive crane]

Use blueprints

[winged herald]

havent unlocked those yet 🙁

[cursive crane]

What tier are you?

[winged herald]

im working on phase two rn

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch blueprint+designer

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=blueprint+designer

[winged herald]

i have the option to unlock them, i just dont have the stuff yet

[jaunty vault]

I would recommend that u take some time to get designs of every production building made asap

[winged herald]

i had that

[cursive crane]

Do that. You literally dont even need to build anything to do it

[winged herald]

guys please stop telling people how to play, i know what im doing lol

im rebuilding my iron factory first

[cursive crane]

Im not telling you, before you start rebuilding a massive iron factory, get the important things you need to not have to do everything by hand, its literally a tool made to cut the build time in half

[jaunty vault]

My bad, thought you were asking for advice for some reason

[winged herald]

no i was just talking about motivation and needing to extend my factory by 2 tiles in each direction because i miscalculated the space i needed for my constructors

[cursive crane]

You asked for motivation in the original comment, massive jumps in efficiency and new build tools are good boosts to motivation

[jaunty vault]

Ran into something pretty similar too. Just stopped playing until the parasite in my brain made me keep going

I literally have to play this game

[winged herald]

i usually just switch to factorio for a day or two if i get burnt out

[fluid crow]

better than a literal parasite

[jaunty vault]

I was looking into that too. U like it?

[cursive crane]

I havent played since last june.
Hopped in today for like 4 hours to finish a train line, and spent two hours collecting the rest of the harddrives and sloops. hopped back out, see you all next year sometime when I make a few manufacturers

[winged herald]

super fun, similiar concept, build large factories, but very different

[jaunty vault]

I really like the art style

U think its bigger or smaller than satisfactory? I have no clue

[stone quiver]

The number of players on steam charts is near identical

[jaunty vault]

Sorry i meant like how much content

[stone quiver]

Like they were within 100 of each other the other week

🤷‍♂️ the art style puts me off. I haven't played it

[jaunty vault]

That’s interesting though but it makes sense. I bet they share a lot of the same players

[winged herald]

well if you have the space dlc thing its a decent amount of content.

space age dlc or whatever

its basically the same, take iron ore, copper ore, coal, ect, and make factories to make items to build other factories, and eventually unlock the ability to travel to space.

[jaunty vault]

I wonder if this game will do something similar eventually.

Getting some moon cheese would be cool

[winged herald]

the item movement mechanics are different, they have trains but for factory layouts factorio leans heavily more into load balancing instead of manifolding

[jaunty vault]

Do you play as a character in that game or just place your buildings? I just know its top down

[stone quiver]

Is there a best place to put suggestions or bugs? Like on console if one person buys golden nut, no one else in the game gets credit. Whereas events you do

[winged herald]

there is a character that moves around yes

[jaunty vault]

Might need dat

[winged herald]

oh i cant post that L

#off-topic-media message

[fluid crow]

the bugs get pissed off about you polluting

[winged herald]

you end up with huge buses for your main routes like this

you can turn the bugs off if you dont want to deal with them. if you leave them on you have to build walls and turrents around your factories

[fluid crow]

I deal with them with a crap ton of nuclear power and lazer turrets

[stone quiver]

I have trouble justifying the slow logistics, but drones are straight up broken, so I don't want to use them everywhere because it's like importing an entire factory for the cost of 20x40 space.

How do yall do logistics

[winged herald]

mk3 belts

or trains if you got those

you could argue trains are slow, but they bring in loads of items

[stone quiver]

I mean actual logistics, supply chain. Not just using a 5x slower conveyer

[winged herald]

i just answered you... my last playthrough i used trains for supply chains

[jaunty vault]

Im working on modular engines next. All the parts I need are spread out so where should I transport them to?

[stone quiver]

Do you want it automated or just to get past phase 3 quickly

[jaunty vault]

Automated for sure

[winged herald]

one central factory most likely

[hot burrow]

hate

[stone quiver]

Modular engines are low enough tier you can find a lot of places that they can be built locally, if that's your desire

[jaunty vault]

So I started in the grass plains and im using all the oil up the coast. Where should I go next for oil?

[winged herald]

check out https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

you can see all the oil nodes and plan out where you wanna go

[fluid crow]

bottom right

[jaunty vault]

Ty

[unkempt blade]

why are drones broken?

[stone quiver]

The oil on the coast is enough to beat the game. you can probably find a way to use it locally

[jaunty vault]

Drones are for bitches

[stone quiver]

Because I can have a 400x400 factory and solve all my logistic issues with a single drone port anywhere at all times

[fluid crow]

they can't compete with factory carts

[stone quiver]

It just feels too brokenly strong

[unkempt blade]

They have a significant power and fuel cost and very low throughput. Isn't that the tradeoff?

[fluid crow]

and a big footprint

[stone quiver]

They have the exact opposite

You're condensing the work of an entire massive production into one drone port

And can ship it anywhere

[fluid crow]

ig it could be bigger but it's pretty big

[winged herald]

how can i make satisfactory modeler calculate for puttin some items in storage instead of just shipping off 3k screws to rotors lmao

[stone quiver]

Their throughout is significant enough to have no issues with finished goods. I don't have 50 turbo motors+/min cooking. And even so... one more drone. Solved,

But I guess they're there to be used. Just makes me feel like I am missing a creative solution when I just toss a tier 7/8 or elevator 4 product on a drone. But I also understand some materials are restricted as to where they occur so you have no choice but to move products

[fluid crow]

I would probably set a part limit

[hidden pebble]

I can't relate. The only things i run out of are trigons and time crystals.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I'm mostly suggesting that "broken" is ignoring both their downside and their cost compared to other options available to you

drones are convenient at a higher cost to be convenient

[hidden pebble]

I believe that was it's purpose? Low frequency, low quantity, fast and flexible transfer.

[swift turret]

Well you probably didnt get to phase 4 and use the interactive map to delete everthying and their boxes

[hidden pebble]

No, I didn't. That would be insanely weird to do. I just built a hmf factory over my beginner factory. It's lying there, dead. I'll dismantle it when I feel like it.

[swift turret]

well it was my first world. I built everything by hand without blueprints and was a major pain to dismantle so now I gotta catch up on everything

[hidden pebble]

I can relate to that. I bult 210GW rocket fuel plant without blueprints. It was spaghetti and fluctuating.

[stone quiver]

I guess drone has trade offs that rarely manifest. But they are there. Fair enough

[swift turret]

yeah thats actually what im cleaning up rn as well

[hidden pebble]

I mean, tradeoffs do exist. I have to set aside 300 sulphur, 375 bauxite and some oil for the batteries. But atleast, for the time being, i can drop down a lot of drone ports.

[winged herald]

that just makes the input alllll the way down less. even if i force the input part limit to 120 then set the screw part limit to say 250 then it forces my iron input part limit down to like 40

[hidden pebble]

Packaged fuel for drones is kinda bad, so you have to use the good stuff

And that requires you to spend rare resources

[winged herald]

which in turn edits all other part limits on the same node im working on

[hidden pebble]

I lost like my old save. Rip.

[unkempt blade]

You don't have to but it does make the downside downside-ier because slower = lower throughput

[fluid crow]

attach it to a storage than set how much you want at the other thing, the extra will go to the container

[hidden pebble]

I guess for moving 5 parts per min over 4-5 km, packaged fuel is okay?

[winged herald]

is there storage containers in the modeler? i tried searching for it and it didnt pull anything up

oh nvm im blind af lmao

[unkempt blade]

You'd have to math it out. @stone quiver 's example was an end stage item where there would normally be a pretty low quantity which is about the best case example. It'd struggle with stuff where item quantity is higher and stack size is still low

[fluid crow]

in the left list

[hidden pebble]

I use drones for moving 50 oscillators, 170 ai limiters, 600 uranium and such. They are clearly low stack size but i need them in higher amounts. So using good fuel or more ports (and more poor fuel)

[stone quiver]

Right, trains haul raw/processed. Drones handle finished product. But... there are intermediary parts that have to be shipped if you want use them elsewhere

Bauxite and its goods is the prime example

[hidden pebble]

Although making more poor fuel is easier than making less good fuel

[winged herald]

yeah i was just completely looking over them lmao

[stone quiver]

Bauxite exists only in a band across the map, if you wanna enjoy the beach, gotta bring it to you somehow and if you aren't doing a full factory, aluminum parts are in high demand and are precursors to high tier stuff

Guess I'll join the drone gang. But also have me an ocean railroad

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I like a variety of vehicles just because it makes me happy seeing them all driving around. Way more interesting than just running conveyors everywhere

[fluid crow]

I mostly been using drones for nitrogen

[hidden pebble]

Finally i set up nuclear power😔

It's still not clean yet

Cleaning it will take more SAM than the map has

[stone quiver]

Too many nukes. Time to destroy the spider queen

[unkempt blade]

I guess you'll just have to fill your inventory with waste and HT cannon yourself off the edge of the map 🙁

[swift turret]

Worst part about trains is having an unlimited amount of power to make stuff. I have no idea how much of each basic material to make anymore because I can access each node without issue

[unkempt blade]

always more - at least until your computer starts to cry

[hidden pebble]

Start calculating from the finished product. Always.

[swift turret]

I have a rx 6600. It will take a lot

[fluid crow]

just look at the total and what's closest/fastest

[swift turret]

I dont thnk making 1000 plates is practical

but I can afford it

[unkempt blade]

and then completely ignore that rational suggestion and instead ship ore at least one entire lap around the map before using it to make stuff

[hidden pebble]

Making 1000 iron plates is practical. Making 1000 RIPs isn't.

[fluid crow]

this is good too

[swift turret]

only costs 13k iron

only 12k screws

[hidden pebble]

Costs much, much less if you use water. And even lesser if you want to make your production line convoluted enough to use plastic. And even better if you use stitched plates.

[swift turret]

im not making anything right now so i can't import anything like plastic

[hidden pebble]

Well, adding plastic drastically increases iron plate production.

[swift turret]

I dont have many basic materials and as I go on I continue to run out

so im trying to correct that

[hidden pebble]

Make a factory for them, then.

[swift turret]

thats my point

I cant figure out how much of what to make

[fluid crow]

got 92k iron on the map to split up how you please

[swift turret]

I have enough for trains so I can grab as much as needed

[fluid crow]

what are you tying to make

[swift turret]

all basic materials

[hidden pebble]

Make 1 per second of each.

[twin parcel]

uh which place is best to start ur oil set up? i spawned at dune dessert and just unlocked trains

[fluid crow]

if you like planing a calculator or modeler may be where it's at

[swift turret]

theres a place between the dune desert, titans forest, and rocky desert that has a lot of oil nodes

pretty good for a starter place

[swift turret]

#screenshots message

[fluid crow]

without a goal you're always going to be shooting from the hip

[swift turret]

I guess i'll go for random numbers

300 plates
300 rods
80 rotors
50 rips

[twin parcel]

but that place has no water though .

[swift turret]

what do you need water for?

[twin parcel]

diluted fuel recipe?

[swift turret]

oh for a plant I thought you needed basic oil products

go to the blue crater

its past the swamp

[twin parcel]

i thought of building oil products nearby a plant that i want to build .

dont know its a good idea

[hidden pebble]

Go to google and generate a random number.

[swift turret]

I also gotta resetup my aluminum factory

im starting to run out of sheets

[hidden pebble]

This game eats more aluminium than guga eats beef

[swift turret]

yeah past me setup trains with bauxite and water I gotta find a place to get copper and a place to build

[hidden pebble]

Swamp is staring at you right in the face

[fickle locust]

It does have water via resource well (but you may not have that unlocked)
So IMO the best spot for an oil products setup is the lake southwest of the grand canyon oil nodes. It's near to copper, iron, sulfur, coal, all sorts of stuff you'd likely use for products
Spire Coast, Blue Crater, and Gold Coast (far west) are all good for oil power

[swift turret]

apparently I setup in the titans forest for 2 pure bauxite

[tranquil saffron]

[hidden pebble]

I mean it has bauxite, oil, but i believe copper is faraway into the rocky desert

[hidden pebble]

There are oil reserves on the far north, far east, and south west. I know south west is bluecrater. What's the north and east one?

[swift turret]

theres copper next to the blue crater in between the blue crater and titans forest

its under the catreium node

normal but its good enough for aluminum

[hidden pebble]

Unless you're making cooling systems

But i guess casings also eat a lot of copper. Don't cheap out on copper

[swift turret]

nah you can make like 100 casing. and heat sinks for pretty cheap

[hidden pebble]

You don't use copper for casings?

[swift turret]

according to my calculations for 1000 casings + sheets its about 333 copper

[hidden pebble]

!wikisearch pure copper ingot

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=pure+copper+ingot

[swift turret]

oh yeah pure copper

I forget about the pure recipes

[hidden pebble]

1500 ingots for 600 ore. Good enough!

[swift turret]

for what

#screenshots message mine seem to be different than yours

[fickle locust]

Far North is Spire Coast, far West is Gold Coast, Blue Crater is Southeast not Southwest

[hidden pebble]

Use alclad casing.

[swift turret]

400 ore

with a MK3 miner I can get 600 easy

bauxite is the only issue

meh I'll reduce it to 500 instead of 1000

I dont have access to mk6 belts so 1200 is out of the question for a long time

[stone horizon]

@swift turret what are you guys using to graph out your plans? im still relatively new

[stone quiver]

Bauxite ruins all my plans

[hidden pebble]

Satisfactory tools

[swift turret]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[stone horizon]

thanks both of you

[hidden pebble]

@swift turret how far are you from unlocking mk6 belts?

[swift turret]

no where close

I deleted everything so I have to go back and make all basic materials, elevator parts, rubber factory, plastic ect

[hidden pebble]

Talk about stabbing yourself in the kidney

[swift turret]

only thing I do have is all the stuff from phase 4 and my rocket fuel factory

[stone python]

cant stab a kidney if you sell both of them

[hidden pebble]

I smell an apple user

[swift turret]

and 10k batteries for some reason

[hidden pebble]

/min or in a storage?

[swift turret]

storage

lol

[hidden pebble]

Sink them, get coupons, buy stuff, and start building

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[swift turret]

I already have everything bought from the shop

I could use it to buy parts I guess

I'll buy batteries

[fickle locust]

You'll be able to build it all back a lot faster at least

[hidden pebble]

Talk about efficiency

[swift turret]

that was my original idea

but that was also back in 2024

[hidden pebble]

Yesterday i had to hand make so many water pump connections that I'm mentally scarred. I don't think i can bring myself to make reactors for plutonium rods today

216 extractors, 108 pumps and connections

[swift turret]

make ficsonium

[fickle locust]

Ah you may be out of practice

[hidden pebble]

Ficsonium requires plutonium waste. Plutonium waste requires burning rods. I just said I don't wanna make reactors to burn rods.

[swift turret]

well get to burning those books

I mean rods

[rich torrent]

Im on phase 5 and power is starting to be an issue
what type of power plant should I be working on?

[swift turret]

nuclear

[hidden pebble]

I'll need 224/2.5 reactors

That's crazy

[swift turret]

94 aint that crazy

[fickle locust]

Turbofuel, and if you already have turbofuel rocket fuel

[rich torrent]

I have 2 100% efficient turbofuel plants

[fickle locust]

Oh wait Phase 5. That's Rocket Fuel or Nuclear

[rich torrent]

IL start working on nuclear

[swift turret]

nuclear is best for after phase 4

because the amount of machines needed is not funny anc rocket can only go so high

[fickle locust]

Nuclear at that point is also nice because you can easily make a hundred-hour waste dump while you build out plutonium processing

[toxic lichen]

how manu hard drives does the mam need to consume?

like
in the case of rocket fuel / compacted coal
are there any more like that?

[swift turret]

theres enough hard drives for every recipe in the game and MAM

[toxic lichen]

i know

[swift turret]

I believe 2-3

[toxic lichen]

but i just wanna know how many the mam needs to eat
for those specific ones

[hidden pebble]

It isn't? Laying down 100, then making 200 extractors, then connecting them, then connecting the inputs and outputs of 100 reactors

[fickle locust]

4 recipes. Compacted Coal, Turbofuel, Rocket Fuel, Ionized Fuel

[swift turret]

i've never worked with nuclear but its not that crazy from the sounds of it

[toxic lichen]

ty king

[swift turret]

especially with auto connecting blueprints

[fickle locust]

I happened to be on that page on the wiki

[toxic lichen]

i grabbed like
almost 20 HDDs last night
cause i finally made them scannable ;-;

they were in spots i had passed before
just a little out of sight

[hidden pebble]

You can't blueprint extractors...and also nuclear takes way too much space to set up an autoconnection

[toxic lichen]

so you gotta hand build all nuclear stuff e'-e'
well not all
but you get the gist of my question

[swift turret]

no but the pipes and belts is the biggest issue which you can blueprint

[toxic lichen]

heavy flexible frame alt
looks like such a W