satisfactory

[quasi warren]

I still need to know what everything means

[drowsy kelp]

I’m not convinced everything has a meaning

Red herrings everywhere

[quasi warren]

I mean, I still thank the ??? For having the sloops and spheres for the APAs and the DD.

[fluid crow]

I wonder if ADA is hacked by the aliens. When the drop pod first lands there's that wierd glitch where a sloop flashes on the screen, then ADA sounds a little different from there out

[quasi warren]

Maybe? I didnt notice a difference

[fluid crow]

I noticed it was a strange detail when I was starting a new game

[drowsy kelp]

??? has to appear on the hud somehow

[jaunty vault]

For loading up the trains, I dont have to bother with the output on the freight platforms do i?

[drowsy kelp]

And they do use a glitchy ada textbox

But ada and ??? are definitely different things

[fickle locust]

If I understand you right, correct. For a platform set to load you can ignore the green output windows

[jaunty vault]

Thank you

[hollow hemlock]

You can tie them together if you just want to see items go wheeeeee

[terse lagoon]

which caterium recipe do you guys thtink is the best one for mega factories

[scenic mirage]

it depends

[acoustic bear]

leached or pure

[scenic mirage]

what do you need

[terse lagoon]

a ton of ingots

as much as i can

[hollow hemlock]

either one of those can produce plenty of ingots

[scenic mirage]

whatre you gonna do w it

[unkempt blade]

sink it!

[terse lagoon]

that, and use it for everything else that's usable like quickwire and stuff

as you can see
#screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

but why tho

[hollow hemlock]

leached will stretch the caterium the farthest but it will cost you sulfur

[terse lagoon]

triplet i am bored

[unkempt blade]

to sink the quickwire!

[willow thistle]

hello everyone

[terse lagoon]

hi hi

[terse lagoon]

i got this

[willow thistle]

i want to ask you guys

[scenic mirage]

🙀 we got adele in here

[acoustic bear]

this is exactly why I want more sulfur, more leached

[unkempt blade]

I like the pure [metal] recipes as long as you have power scaled up a bit

[hollow hemlock]

steam has lots of them, give them money and you can have one

[terse lagoon]

he's got a point

[scenic mirage]

no begging for the game in here

[willow thistle]

im just asking nvm lol

[unkempt blade]

#rules please

[scenic mirage]

if half the people in this server "just asked" then itd get annoying real fast

[acoustic bear]

it's well worth the $40 or whatever they charge

[willow thistle]

i want to buy mate , just to gift it nvm nvm i'll delete

[acoustic bear]

on a $ per hour basis this game is unmatched

up there with some of my all time longest time sinks

[scenic mirage]

lmao ok bro you dont have to explain yourself 😭

[hollow hemlock]

I dunno, factorio might be in the running

[quasi warren]

I mainly use sulfer for uranium cells, using the recipe that requires no sulfuric acid. And turbofuel, plus a FEW assemblers making black powder

[tall lantern]

minecraft could give it a run for its money, especially modded

[acoustic bear]

Starcraft, Factorio, Deep Rock Galactic and Battlefield Franchise all round out my top 5 time sinks

those are my 1000+ hour games

[unkempt blade]

I built a server desktop a while back at least initially for satisfactory so I think I ruined the dollar/hr value there 🤣

[fluid crow]

the game was just on sale for $15

[acoustic bear]

if I can't get 100 hours out of a game, it's a non-starter for me anymore

[quasi warren]

These are really the only reasons why I use sulfer-

[acoustic bear]

ohh, I really love the Anno series as well

Anno 1800 and Pax Romana are both sweet games if you like satisfactory/factorio

[fluid crow]

ig 27.99 was the cheapest I must have been looking at something wrong

[acoustic bear]

Anno 1800 in particular can be a greattime

[unkempt blade]

it would have been cheaper during EA but I think that's the standard sale price anytime recently

[quasi warren]

$0.02 per hour is how much my money is being used since I played this game

Holy

[acoustic bear]

I'm quick to refund games anymore if they don't strike my fancy

ngl I refunded satisfactory in early access a couple years back

[tall lantern]

straight to jail

[jaunty vault]

Any idea why the satisfactory calculator is saying to use sam to make caterium? Im so confused

[tall lantern]

turn off SAM as an input

assuming you mean Tools

[jaunty vault]

Thank you

[glossy pagoda]

I’m done for you guys, go check out #design-and-architecture

[tall lantern]

you can also turn off conversion recipes in the main recipe list, searching for ( will show them (plus a few others)

but for the early game where you don't need SAM at all, turning the resource off will suffice

[jaunty vault]

It took so much to get to 8 heavy frames per minute but the computers seem cheap asf lol

[acoustic bear]

I got 30 hmf pretty easy t bh

[jaunty vault]

🫩

[tall lantern]

it'll get easier as you go

8 is plenty for the stage where you actually unlock them

[acoustic bear]

used the screw-less recipes and built a couple cubes of constructors and assemblers

[jaunty vault]

Yea i think i fucked up doing a steel screw factory for heavy frames. Cant really scale it until i get better conveyors. It seems like at least

[tall lantern]

can if you don't try and smoosh it all onto one belt

[quasi warren]

I did encased heavy frames

I do not like using screws TwT

[jaunty vault]

Hm

[tall lantern]

screws teach a valuable lesson: sometimes you need to not stick to one belt per item type

[jaunty vault]

Fair

[quasi warren]

Wait wha-?

English please TwT

[tall lantern]

a common solution is to break it into smaller sections. Like one screw constructor into one assembler, or some other sensible ratio for your recipes

[unkempt blade]

Use more screws! They're fun and they make you better at the game!

[fluid crow]

if only there were more things you could make out of screws

[quasi warren]

Ive done that for so long, that I just stopped using screws entirely

[unkempt blade]

it makes it harder to deliver those screws using factory carts but it's still worth it

[quasi warren]

I never use factory carts :P

[unkempt blade]

yeah but you're also amazing and talented and I believe in you to figure out how to play this game better one day

[gloomy tusk]

how dare he

[stark blade]

yo

[quasi warren]

Yo

[acoustic bear]

harvest, consume

[stark blade]

i got smth

[quasi warren]

What does this mean in terms of everything T-T

[stark blade]

dangit the serverwide rickroll has failed 😭

[quasi warren]

No links im assuming

[stark blade]

yeah :(

[fluid crow]

Harvest the scripture and compose it into a blood song

[quasi warren]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN-

[white dawn]

-# precisely why embeds were disabled

[quasi warren]

^

[hollow hemlock]

dont worry about it, harvest, consume

[quasi warren]

And for anti spam-bots too

[acoustic bear]

I love just jetpacking through the forest dropping cluster bombs on all the trees I pass and then turning around to blow up as many as I can and see my trail of destruction in the distance

[quasi warren]

I do this with nukes. I look behind me. game crashes

[acoustic bear]

I get single digit fps sometimes even with a 9800X3D

[hard quiver]

Hi, I have a question: I'm creating a drawing, but the drawing tabs don't appear in the construction gun. I've rearranged the drawings and deleted the folders, but nothing helps.

[fluid crow]

it's in a tab in the build menu

[hard quiver]

Where is this?

[fluid crow]

Q

needs to be unlocked through the story first

[hard quiver]

I don't have a drawings tab in Q. There are construction and settings there, but no drawings.

[quasi warren]

Is it a blueprint?

If so, its in the blueprints tab when you hit q

Theres a difference between construction and blueprints

[hard quiver]

I unlocked the level 2 blueprint creator, built it, and saved it there, but it didn't appear in Q, and there's no tab in Q.

[quasi warren]

There should be...

If you made atleast 1 BP, there should be a tab that says "blueprints" at the top

[hard quiver]

Yes, but she doesn't appear. I reset the blueprints and remade the world, but it doesn't help.

[quasi warren]

Open a post in #1038092680493801533

This way you can send screenshots to show us what you mean

[hard quiver]

now

[fluid crow]

#screenshots message

is where it should be if you have blueprints unlocked

[hard quiver]

but I don't have such a tab.

[quasi warren]

You should if you have the BP unlocked

[hard quiver]

What is BP?

[quasi warren]

Blueprints

[fluid crow]

#screenshots message

[hard quiver]

I have it, I built it there and saved it, but there is no tab in q

[fluid crow]

that's strange you said you could actually see the files?

[quasi warren]

If you load up game files. You can see the bp file

Yea

[hard quiver]

Good afternoon, I had a problem, I opened the second blueprint creator according to the plot of the game, built my building there, saved the drawing, and in Q I did not have a tab with drawings, although it was saved in the folder, what should I do? I've already renamed the session from the Internet, cleared the folder, and recreated the drawing, but it doesn't help.

[astral moth]

Does anyone know what future updates are planned?

Or if they are working on any other projects

Is the game finished (progression wise) and will all just be random QoL from now on?

Will they create a new map?

[quasi warren]

Again, my recommendation is to go to #1038092680493801533 and make a post there. With screenshots so we can help you as much as we can

[white dawn]

We've been told there'll be "major" updates like v1.2 for the forseeable future. Those will likely be along the lines of what v1.1 was -- QoL, new fun features, stuff like that

New progression in the game is extremely unlikely in the near future, as is any new map

[hard quiver]

I'm still checking the integrity of the files.

[white dawn]

CSS has a long term plan, which may or may not involve stuff like DLC or "Satisfactory 2" or whatever (which is really the only reasonable places for new progression + maps and stuff like that), but they have not made any of those plans public

The impression is that the current game will continue to get updates for quite some time though, regardless of what that means contentwise

[fluid crow]

try saving a blueprint at the designer just in the base folder

[hard quiver]

how?

[unkempt blade]

Bring on Satisfactorier!

Personally I'm just excited they're going to make fluids even more perfect than they already are

[glass bane]

Is there any plan ok updateing the game? I want to Play satisfactory a Third time but I want to know if it’s worth to wait a Bit 🙂

[fluid crow]

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

you can see the messages like 6~ above yours?

[glass bane]

Oh

[winged herald]

chat im using the Satisfactory modeler to plan out my smart plating factory, and its saying i need to split 120 iron ore into 45 and 71.25, how do i do that?

[hard quiver]

#screenshots

[winged herald]

it wants me to send the 71.25 into iron rods and 45 into iron plates, but idk how to make an output of 71.25

[dull pine]

Underclock is one way

[hard quiver]

use a calculator and dividers

[winged herald]

i mean the spliters split evenly in half, so splitting 120 gets 2 lines of 60... so where do i get the extra 11.25 from

[white dawn]

Just manifold it -- a line of splitters in a row, each in front of a smelter

[winged herald]

i mean iron ingots not ore sorry

after the smelters

[white dawn]

At first, the ones at the beginning will be getting "too much" and the ones at the end will be starving, but they'll even out before too long

[dense violet]

one splitter

[white dawn]

Ah, even easier -- send exactly the right amount of ingots to the processes which need 'em. Underclocking/Overclocking (as mentioned can help there)

[dense violet]

manifolds self balance

[white dawn]

Or just manifold those too

So long as you stick within your belt limits, manifolds will always work out. The only real downside is waiting for them to "warm up" -- you can skip that by pre-filling input buffers, if you like (though that does require having that material onhand)

[winged herald]

so the easier way would be just a manifold line into the 7 constructors i need and it will auto balance itself to have 71 iron ingots making rods and 45 making plates

[white dawn]

Sure, though as I say, I'd personally have a group of smelters making 71/min ingots (headed to rods), and a separate set of smelters making 45/min (heading to plates)

Though you'd have to be manifolding the ore going into them. There's generally no good way to get around having to split up a miner's output without manifolding or the like

[winged herald]

ok. i have clocking unlocked. just trying to make sure the factory is as close to 100% effecient as i can

[white dawn]

If by "efficient" you mean "all machines running at 100% all the time," then yeah, underclocking/overclocking is your friend

("efficiency" is a word that can be used in a lot of different ways; difficult to know exactly what someone might mean by it)

[dreamy nest]

whats a manifold

in this context, sorry

[winged herald]

yeah i just dont want none of the machine just sitting on standby or my smart plating output to be less than what it should. Im only aiming to make 5/m output atm. Just going for phase 2

[white dawn]

[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

              [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
              [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
               ^        ^        ^        ^
               |        |        |        |
[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

[dreamy nest]

oh i've been calling that like, a cell or a blueprint or something

ty

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's easy to build 'em inside blueprints for sure. :)

[winged herald]

do you think a 7x7 area is big enough for a smart plate factory with just one floor? or do i need more space

[dull pine]

You can also build vertical

[winged herald]

yeah, most of my other factories are verticle, was trying to build this one not as tall though

also when the modeler says i need 2.5 assemblers, should i use 3 and underclock one, or 2 and overclock one

[white dawn]

Whatever you like, so long as the total clock adds up to 250%

Could even, like, underclock two of them to 75% and leave the other at 100%

[winged herald]

which ones more cost effective? Overclocking takes more power from your grid doesnt it?

[white dawn]

Underclocking will save you a little bit of power, whereas overclocking will lose you a little bit of power

In Phase 1 (on biomass), power might be kind of precious, so you might want to underclock instead. Once you have fully-automatable power the difference doesn't really matter much

[winged herald]

i have a pretty decent sized biomass plant making like 250 or something

[white dawn]

Right -- 2 machines at 100% use less power than 1 at 200%. (And also: 2 machines at 50% use less power than 1 at 100%)

As I say, on biofuels in Phase 1 that might be an important factor, though the difference honestly isn't huge. Once you're in Phase 2+ it's much more down to personal preference

Save some space versus save some power.

(Technically, space is far more abundant than power, but it's not difficult to overbuild your power infrastructure, so IMO they're both effectively unlimited, if you're willing to build with that in mind)

[unreal wing]

Can somebody help me with train signaling pls? Block signal dosen't create block and I'm starting to become crazy

[white dawn]

Start a #1038092680493801533 thread with pictures; trains (and pipes) nearly always need pictures for debugging. Make sure to have overhead shots, and include one with the block/path signal selected to the block coloration shows up

[stoic nebula]

can someone make me feel special and ping meeee...?

[dense violet]

no, your hatred of pipes forbids it

[jaunty vault]

Yo how do you rotate the conveyor lifts?

[dense violet]

mousewheel

[jaunty vault]

Not that way

[drowsy kelp]

R?

[jaunty vault]

I need the lift to accept the conveyor not spit it out

[drowsy kelp]

That would be reversing the direction, not rotation

You’re looking for the reversed build mode instead of default

[vale quail]

some reason i have a feeling that 1.2 could drop on the same day as timberborn 1.0 wich is march the 5th

[pastel surge]

How many alt recipes are there in the game in total

[jaunty vault]

Thank you

Floor holes are tricky

[drowsy kelp]

How so

[jaunty vault]

Just that one reason

For trains On a double track am I able to just clip through one to get to the other lane from one of the sides or will it de rail?

[tall lantern]

if trains could collide, you'll need signals

[fickle locust]

113

[tall lantern]

(or a change in height so the rails don't actually intersect)

[tall lantern]

or more generally, any setup with multiple trains needs to be signalled, can't just do a single junction and call it a day

[jaunty vault]

Okay thank you. No problems clipping through other rails though?

[dense violet]

they'll collide if the rails touch and both try to cross

[jaunty vault]

What will collide?

[dense violet]

two trains on two rails that cross?

unless you signal it

[jaunty vault]

Im only talking about 1 train crossing a 2 lane track

[tall lantern]

then that's fine

[jaunty vault]

Ok, thanks

[tall lantern]

trains'll phase through anything lol

[jaunty vault]

Good to know

[tall lantern]

good way of getting through the floor/cliffs, if needed

[jaunty vault]

Bp is handy for that ive noticed

For future reference, if a train completes its route will it always make it? Or are you guys checking every train whenever you add another path?

[tall lantern]

assuming nothing changes it'll continue just fine

if you break track or signalling then that'll potentially break it

[jaunty vault]

But i can safely add on whatever as long as i dont change whats already there?

[tall lantern]

generally

[fickle locust]

As you add more trains you can create traffic jams or even deadlocks that didn't exist with fewer trains

But mostly that's a problem you try to solve as it comes up

[tall lantern]

can mostly pre-empt that by signalling tracks reasonably

[jaunty vault]

Do I drive the route with the train to set it automatically or can I just do it from the time table menu? Im a bit confused

[fickle locust]

Time table. You can just set what stations to visit (and in what order) and it'll do it

[jaunty vault]

Thank you

[fickle locust]

If there's a problem with the route the train will refuse to move and show a warning on the map

[jaunty vault]

Does the train only leave when you fill it up or do you set that too?

[fickle locust]

That's the setting in the station of wait for a full load

[jaunty vault]

Got it

Damn. These trains are sick as shit

[bitter crow]

should i strive towards having a high production rate of steel pipes at stage 2 or is it non-essential right now?

[fickle locust]

Just make enough to fill containers and power your build gun

By the time you want a lot of steel pipes you'll have tools to make a better factory to create them

[glacial drum]

#screenshots message 62 mod frames a minute done

62.92

[versed mesa]

👋

[bitter crow]

should i strive towards a rate of like 15-20 a minute?

[bitter crow]

looks good

[reef basin]

you make set of machines that makes 71.25

[fickle locust]

If you can do it relatively easily. That's probably more than you need but if it's just putting down a couple more machines then yeah

I'd try to take one coal and one iron node and split them making pipes and beams 50/50. Only start using more nodes and bringing more stuff together when you're using pipes or beams as intermediate products for a more complex line

[reef basin]

if you need 15-20/minute, yeah

[bitter crow]

i want to focus on steel beams since i do not see the need for alot of steel pipes, so i was wondering if 15 a minute was gonna cause trouble for me later in the game

thank you all for all the help btw

[torn lynx]

I COMPLETED PAHSE 2!

ok how likely is a whole base redesign,. with hwo thign s are goign with liquid comign soon im startign to think i may have to moce

move*

[pastel surge]

Okay thank you

[reef basin]

if it starts causing you trouble later, you'll solve it later

no reason to guess the future

[tall lantern]

you can have multiple factories, there's no need to change what you have to build new factories

[reef basin]

0%
never rebuild stuff that works, just build new stuff

[jaunty vault]

Is there a way to beep the train manually?

[torn lynx]

but i like my sotrasge cube

OH, OK, I SEE

[tall lantern]

mmmm, sotrasge

[torn lynx]

also igot the jet pack

[tall lantern]

"beep"?

[torn lynx]

i feel scammed

[tall lantern]

you can click to sound the horn while you're in it, if that's what you mean

[jaunty vault]

Yes i mean that i like how it beeps after every train station

I been beepin for a while now

Yessssss i just made my first efficient train

[torn lynx]

can trains be used a s a replacement for tractors?

[tall lantern]

they can both be used to move stuff, so arguably yes

they're not directly comparable though

[white dawn]

All of the available logistics methods (belts+pipes/vehicles/trains/drones) can be built out to support whatever throughput rate you need for your logistics

[quasi warren]

You can change fuels btw, packaged fuel, packaged liquid biofuel. Turbofuel. Etc

Each behaves differently

[white dawn]

Personally I wouldn't recommend changing logistics methods for a route, once you have something established

[torn lynx]

oh, im askign cause i hate my current coal and tractor system, its very messy

[tall lantern]

but does it work

[torn lynx]

it does

[white dawn]

On my own playthroughs I go heavy into vehicles in Phase 2 (since that's all that's available), then quite heavy into trains in Phase 3 (since that's when that's available) ,and quite heavy into drones in Phase 4 (etc). But I never replace my early vehicle routes

[torn lynx]

but i liek it when it looks nice

[tall lantern]

"because I want to" is always valid, but leaving a working system alone is usually the more logical call

[white dawn]

(And I may spin up new vehicle routes even well into the late game, if they're appropriate for a route I need)

All the options for logistics have advantages and disadvantages, so what you use for any given route is quite situational (and modified heavily by player preference, of course)

[torn lynx]

i also love trains

and having the idea of traisn rtunning my whole system is gonna make my brain satisfied

[tall lantern]

you've got plenty of factory to come, can use it for the new stuff without breaking the old

[white dawn]

-# Of course then once you get to drones you may have the same thought with them

[torn lynx]

oh no, i have loved trains since i was a kid, i will love this

[tall lantern]

it is pretty sweet to watch a whole train network whizzing around

[torn lynx]

also i can kitch a ride on trains right?

[white dawn]

Yeah, one of the great advantages of building out rail is having a built-in Pioneer transit system

[unborn moss]

I'm on my 2nd real play through, and I just fast tracked through until getting to trains.

Also, I've played a LOT of OpenTTD so the train system is pretty easy to get in Satisfactory!

[white dawn]

I'll sometimes put in an extra station at my factories just for Pioneer stops, so a parked train there can't hold up any cargo trains

(though for Pioneer transit I'm much more likely to just construct a new one than I am to call a remote one over to me, so I don't always do that)

[unborn moss]

Pioneer transit is 100% hypertube cannons lol

[white dawn]

I actually rarely use tubes for inter-factory transit; for me they're nearly always in-factory shortcuts, if anything

I don't like tying tubes to the same routes my trains go, so building out a separate tube network never seems quite worth it to me

[unborn moss]

I just build the small hypertube cannons that launch up into the air, then jetpack down to where I'm going, no network.

[white dawn]

Ah, yeah, I'm also not fond of open-air hypertube cannons as transit. Too immersion-breaking for me; I don't really like how the map bounds become so apparent, etc

I'd much rather just hop on a passenger rail and take in the scenery for a couple minutes

[quasi warren]

I have hypertubes going across the whole map TwT

[white dawn]

(Also the developers only grudgingly "fixed" them after an Unreal Engine update broke them, back in Update 8. They're not really an intended mechanic, even though they committed to keeping them in, in the end)

I should clarify that I have occasionally used 'em in the past, though. :D I understand the appeal, just generally not my thing. :)

[west sluice]

i just realised you can do the equivalent of a minecraft boat clutch with any vehicle in satisfactory

[nova ridge]

if i need 300/min plastic off of a belt with 1200/min plastic. should i just use a mk4 or pull off an mk3 and mk1 and combine them hm

or is there a way to control how muich i pull?

[quasi warren]

Making a nuclear plant was so fun.

Hell, but fun none the less

[nova ridge]

did u get to fic?

[quasi warren]

Nope TwT when I made the plant, I didn't even unlock the PA yet

Im still on tiers 7 and 8

[nova ridge]

it gets more annoying when you get to the final product. but yeah its a decent production chain

surprised you need none of it to complete the game

[fickle locust]

If you do a mk 4 it'll pull 480 to start but quickly saturate (because you're only using 300) and from then on you'll have 300 going down the line

[nova ridge]

feel like there should be at least 1 urainium product

[nova ridge]

its what i normally do but was just wondering

[unborn moss]

2 splitters will net you 300 exactly off 1200

[nova ridge]

ah also true

[quasi warren]

Oh fr?

I did it just to do it lol

[tall lantern]

all power options are optional

if you really wanted to you could (in theory) go through purely on biomass... though you'd probably need a crew of people chopping down the planet to do that in a reasonable amount of time

[bitter crow]

please do tell me if i ask too many questions, but is it reasonable for me to use two of my 7 pure iron nodes for steel? im unsure if it will be that useful

[dreamy nest]

Steel is incredibly useful

[tall lantern]

there's no universal answer to that, but if you want to, sure why not

2 pure nodes is nothing compared to what's available

[bitter crow]

yeah, ive heard numbers like 90k or something

[tall lantern]

think that was me 😛

[nova ridge]

need someone to do this

[bitter crow]

youre one smart fella

[tall lantern]

92100 according to Tools

[bitter crow]

anyway, i only need to survive on this iron until i get trains

[tall lantern]

(not including any conversion shenanigans, but you probably ain't doing that for more iron)

[bitter crow]

goddam i love trains

fun fact of the day: my pfp is me riding a train as a young fella

[tall lantern]

and that number doesn't factor in that there are many ways to get more iron ingots out of your ore

[bitter crow]

i really like trains

[bitter crow]

92100 iron rods should be enough for now

[nova ridge]

can i run belts upside down?

#screenshots message
i want to bring plastic from ther eto here

[bitter crow]

i dont think so

[nova ridge]

dont want to combine on railroad track. seeeing if i can use the bottom of it

[swift turret]

you can run them from a celling or undernath a foundation

[nova ridge]

convery wall?

how do i run from ceiling or underneath

[bitter crow]

i mean you can use conveyor lifts

[swift turret]

buy them from the awesome shop

[nova ridge]

ah ceiling mount thanks

and its stackable awesome

better than converyer wall

theres not a easy way to know exactly how to space these mounts right?

[ancient sierra]

help me i erased a container and it wass full of material and my stuuf was full and everything vanished theres is no way i can find it back ?

[clear mesa]

It's in a dismantle crate

Open your map and find where the nearest one is

[stone quiver]

I've decided that I can no longer stomach floating factory and zero aesthetic. I can't finish p5 until I make a real factory

[supple rain]

do yall think a 10 locomotive and 32 wagon train is excessive

[stone quiver]

If it's carrying one wagon of stuff, yes.

If it's trans-continental, no

[supple rain]

oh it'd be carrying everything

[stone quiver]

Seems realistic then

[supple rain]

1 Copper Ore Wagon
1 Caterium Ore Wagon
2 Bauxite Wagons
6 Limestone Wagons
5 Coal Wagons
1 Sulphur Wagon
2 Quartz Wagons
2 Oil Wagons
9 Water Wagons
2 Nitrogen Gas Wagons
0 SAM Wagons (Drone)
0 Uranium Wagons (N/A)```
It'd be carrying things to my megabase factory, the one I'd build to make everything used in building for every tier

the reason I'm hesitant is because I don't really want to build a dozen train stations that are feckin 44 sections long

[glacial drum]

Small problem. #screenshots message I made this using mk 5 prints. I now have mk 6..

Do I completely destroy all of it hmm..

perhaps I could instead build the mk 6 print off the mk 5 and just add what I add to the 6 to the old storage

I could also find a new area for power storage. I need one eventually

[unkempt blade]

I think you're going to 1) have an awful time making the stations for it 2) need multiple trains otherwise you're going to have a very long route time for any individual item

[supple rain]

yeah I was thinking that too

[unkempt blade]

if it's fun then by all means that's the only reason you need those are just the headaches I'd imagine for it

[ornate saffron]

if it works with mk5 whats the problenm?

[glacial drum]

I could make a bigger blueprint

More efficient

It wouldn’t fit with the mk 5 it would be larger

[supple rain]

then do that, but don't tear down the old

[ornate saffron]

ya... but in that time you can build that thing you have been putting off

[supple rain]

well if it's just a slightly bigger stack what's the point of that

[glacial drum]

I have no clue what you’re talking about.

[ornate saffron]

lies

[supple rain]

you're talking about a power storage blueprint, yes?

[glacial drum]

the point is to have enough power storage for remaking an entire power station

Yes

[supple rain]

why spend time making a bigger one

[sick falcon]

ts sounds so peak

[torn lynx]

hey, so i knwo now i shoudl set up multiple bases but now im wondering is it a good idea to spread out storage of stuff too?

[glacial drum]

a bigger one means I can place more at once per blueprint

[supple rain]

but what's the point of that

it doesn't grant you any edge of the already existing blueprint

[glacial drum]

more placed at once means less placing

more efficient

[supple rain]

it would be peak to have a 680m long train but the stations would be such a pain, I dunno if it'd be worth

a smaller blueprint means it takes less time for the depot to fill up your inventory again, that'd the vector that would be limiting you

[glacial drum]

It’s already more than my depot can fit by a loooong shot

Had to make a 62 mod frame/min factory just to keep up

[unkempt blade]

This has been less-necessary with priority power switches but I really like(d) my blueprint for placing a bunch of power storage all at once. Was nice to just be able to plop the BP down once or twice per factory and have it add up to an hour or two of buffer to protect me from my friend's builds 😆

[glacial drum]

it takes 1080 mod frames currently and I believe 10,800 wire & 450 concrete

I just want to have a million storage for fun

In the end

[supple rain]

and you can do that with your current one

[white dawn]

An alternative is to leave your existing power generation running and just make new power generation to supplement, of course

I basically never tear down power once I'm past bio fuels

[glacial drum]

My current one is using the input for the new one. I’m going to double the current factory but it’ll take reconstruction

[white dawn]

There's a ton of resources on the map, could easily build the new one elsewhere instead. ;)

[supple rain]

yknow what actually, heck it
I'm gonna build this all as one train, and then have a depot in every biome, where everything is just funneled into by their own train routes

[white dawn]

Less work, too! Dismantling factories is kind of a pain

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I'll basically only tear them down if I'm already waaaay over my power consumption + I actually want to use the consumed resources for something else

[white dawn]

The only time I've ever torn down power was when I did a smallish Compacted Coal gen area on a lark, and later decided I wanted that sulfur for ammunition instead. :D

[nova ridge]

really hope that one day when my dad retires i can introduce him to satisfactory and factorio. he's an electrical engineering professor. somehow never really gamed beyond his childhood but totally woudl be his thing.

[manic wigeon]

300 hours in , finished Phase 5 for the first time.

[unkempt blade]

my first oil factory usually gets torn down at some point (like when I've finished a diluted fuel factory or later) and the coal generators only get torn down if I want steel in that location for some reason and need the extra coal

[glacial drum]

My rocket fuel factory is at the closest spot between the multiple inputs I need so it shall go bye bye and it will double in output

The infrastructure is horrible

[unkempt blade]

one of my degrees is in EE - did he fail me in one of my math-ier classes?

[grim trellis]

Hope the new patch coming this year gives me the itch to play again.

[sick falcon]

oh yea it would be a massive pain to make, just make a bunch of stations at ur mega base and split it into smaller trains then

[quasi warren]

I should tear down my first oil plant of this save, I really should, but ill probably wait untill I set up a turbofuel powerplant in the blue crator

[unkempt blade]

I usually feel like it's worth doing once you have recipes to justify an upgrade but it's usually more of a portion of my recycled plastic/rubber + HOR + diluted fuel buildout at that point

it still make stuff so it's not like it's a waste but if you want some huge oil setup near the hub... 🤷‍♂️

[manic wigeon]

I try not to tear down anything, Still have my first coal plant running full tilt. .

[supple rain]

I gonna make several massive stations in a distribution network

[winged herald]

how do we go from phase 1 needing 50 smart plating to phase 2 needing 1000 😭

[solid idol]

its not that bad you can just let it run while you work on other stuff

youll have 1k in no time

[winged herald]

yeah i am but my factory is only making like 5 a min. thats what 3 and a half hours?

[solid idol]

just work on automating more of them for a while

[dreamy nest]

i just left my factory running and went to bed 🤣 🤣

[solid idol]

that works too lol

[winged herald]

i guess i can go clean my kitchen 🤣

[supple rain]

in order to complete the game you need a total of 4300 smart plating
but yeah as mclovin said, it's very easy to get to that if you just make one factory and let it run while doing something else

[hollow hemlock]

also add more sloops and shards, when that doesnt go fast enough add more assemblers and manufacturers

[winged herald]

yeah i have a small factory, its just not being very effecient atm, will most likely rebuild it soon

[junior jolt]

hey quick question, so im on the first spawn point, how far do i have to go to be able to get renewable quartz

[wise junco]

I think your nearest one will be about 2km ish to the east-northeast

[junior jolt]

and would i dimensional depot it or would i conveyor belt it

[winged herald]

might be a good point for me to just tear down all my tiny factories, get a coal power plant setup, and start working on a mega factory huh

[junior jolt]

i havent played with trucks yet idk bow they work

or if theyd be feasible

[solid idol]

right now im making 2 factories to focus on low tier items then another factory that uses those low tier items to make higher tier items

i skipped trucks and went for trains

[torn lynx]

not gonan lei all this oil stuff is a bit overwhelming

[winged herald]

i have 1 factory making all basic iron stuff, 1 for copper, 1 making reinforced iron plates, 1 making rotors, 1 making smart plating, and 1 making concrete. but im kinda running out of space atm and have no room in my starter location to make further needed items for phase progression.

[solid idol]

idk how to do trains yet thats a later thing but ima have them bring the low tiered items to my higher tier part factory

[torn lynx]

i liek a challenge so no biggie but MAN

[solid idol]

you might do well to just make a large factory in the area what i do is make 1 floor do smelting, the next above does the constructing, then above that it does assembling.

yeah oil is overwhelming tbh lol my setup for all that is very basic and thrown together

[winged herald]

my only issue is trying to figure out the best / cleanest way to route my iron in if i make a mega factory. i have like 4 or 5 pure nodes by me but they're kinda spread apart and will most likely end up leading to being routed in from different sides of the factory, which to me just would bug the hell out of me

[quasi warren]

At first? Yeah. I remember when I first hit oil and I quit that save and started a new one. Now? Tiers 7 and 8 no problem

[torn lynx]

IM JSUT TRIYNG TO FIGURE IUT OUT, MAINLY BECAUSE M YMAIN BASE IT NOW RUNNING OUT OF SPACE

capslock

[hollow hemlock]

use the third dimension

[solid idol]

you could make a factory away from the nodes and have it brought to the factory for a bit cleaner organization for belts

[quasi warren]

That's why I use all 3 dimensions

I go up

Uses pumps, sure, but it saves space

[hollow hemlock]

pff, you and your up

go down

[glacial drum]

Verticality is key

[winged herald]

i dont have trains or trucks unlocked yet, so it would end up with belts being everwhere lol

[solid idol]

going up helps you be organized

[hollow hemlock]

down means never worrying about pumps again 🤣

[torn lynx]

i want to do that but none of my foundations are connected

[solid idol]

I have belts across the map for now until my trains are setup no shame in that

[hollow hemlock]

encase them in concrete and put a giant hypertube cannon on top of them, tell everyone that it's supposed to look like that

[solid idol]

true

[pulsar osprey]

is there any way to vertically align wall mounted flood lights on big pillars? im going insane since i cant use vertical snapping, i cant anchor it to a wall and move it either

[regal citrus]

hey guys, first time playing. is there a way to make constructors take only what they need? im trying to automate rotors and 1 constructor keeps taking all the rods and leaving nothing for the other ones. im using splitters to distribute the rods

i dont know why i assumed that they do that

[torn lynx]

NOT GONNA LIE

now that i have a better understanding of the game restarting sounds kinda fun

[acoustic bear]

you can wait and it'll fill up the buffer and spill over to filling the others or build a better intake manifold that splits the parts more evenly

[ornate saffron]

If you have several constructors lined up in a row with a belt running along. Then using splitter to feed the contractors it is called a manifold. The first machine will take all the items until it is full then the next machine will fill. This is called wind up time.

As long as your math is right over time they will all fill

So if each of ten constructors need 10 rods each. And you are sending 100 rods eventually it'll work right

Keep belt speeds in mind

[vale jetty]

How do I post in the help chat?

[regal citrus]

thank you. im sure the ratios are right, i guess I'll just wait it out

[ornate saffron]

If you mean #1038092680493801533 start a new thread

[ornate saffron]

You can speed things up by hand feeling stacks into your machines.

[acoustic bear]

there is a youtuber called gaming with doc that does youtube shorts about satisfactory basics like intake types etc that can be really helpful

[vale jetty]

Huh?

[stoic nebula]

is 27 hours nonstop too much satisfactory?

[ornate saffron]

Sorry fixed

[regal citrus]

i was going to ask you for a tutorial, thanks :)

[vale jetty]

Thx

[regal citrus]

though i dont wanna use them much

[ornate saffron]

Doc is great

[regal citrus]

I'll realize how horribly designed my factory is and I'll get the urge to destroy everything

[acoustic bear]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/js4-HwNCaTc

[acoustic bear]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q5a1zmS41gE

this guy covers precisely what makes your gameplay improve

[vale jetty]

Can one of y'all help me with fluids?

[acoustic bear]

ask away

can't promise I'll know but I might and there are others here who probably do

[ornate saffron]

Belt speeds can help to. For example if you need less then 60 parts per minute in your constructor use a mark 1 belt to connect you splitter to your constructor. Meanwhile use you highest belt connecting all the splitters. This makes it so the first machine can only take a max of 60 parts per minute

[regal citrus]

this is what im using! much smaller though

[acoustic bear]

sorting Doc's youtube shorts by "popular" is basically a satisfactory tutorial lineup

[acoustic bear]

that's techically the worst way to do it

[regal citrus]

I'll try that out, though reinforced plates are still kind of expensive so im keeping mk2 belts to a minimum

[acoustic bear]

it's simplest but takes the longest time to spool up

[regal citrus]

lmfao

[acoustic bear]

look at his tutorials about load balancers

[vale jetty]

So I have oil that is being transferred via train but once it gets deposited into the depot and then to industrial buffers but after that point it just doesn't transfer I even have Tier 2 pumps and pipes (I also have trouble getting the oil to the buffer it's like a 3 foot gap)

[stone quiver]

Did you call manifold the worst?

[acoustic bear]

it's simple and slow. a load balancer is better but more complex

I use a mix of both pretty randomly

[stone quiver]

Bruh

[stoic nebula]

omg my savior... i love doc

[ornate saffron]

I wouldn't say better. Just not wind up time. Im okay just walking away and doing something else. Load balancers are not worth the space and time in most scenarios. At least thats my thoughts.

[stone quiver]

Manifold is modular, load, balancing you'd have to fork from the start every time

[acoustic bear]

it's very subjective

[unkempt blade]

it's definitely the worst

[fleet star]

what??

[acoustic bear]

I wasn't making a big declaration

it was an offhanded comment

[unkempt blade]

Too late. It's official now

[fleet star]

nah manifold slander ain't it

[unkempt blade]

The cartifold reigns supreme, you all just haven't caught up yet

[fleet star]

sushi belt slander, I can support. manifolds are king

[brittle seal]

didnt they say they fixed the pipes? i feel like it sucks even more than before, my ratio is adjusted perfectly and even after 3hrs not all machines are up

[fleet star]

how did you do it

[vale jetty]

I fixed it idk what I did tho

[unkempt blade]

fluids are perfect now and will only become more perfect in 1.2

[fleet star]

are you using the water tower technique? that's the only way that really works with certainty

even flat pipes can cause unexpected effects

[brittle seal]

check #screenshots

this is how i always built it

[fleet star]

is that an output pipe or input

[brittle seal]

input

[fleet star]

yeah don't do it like that

[brittle seal]

why not tho, always worked fine

[ornate saffron]

What were the stream highlights folks?

[fleet star]

you can do it like that if there's a water tower but otherwise it only works if the elevation change is less than 10 meters taller than the source (water extractor)

[stone quiver]

What sort of magical water you running in there

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented I believe in your pipes to do pipe things the way you intended

[brittle seal]

its coming from oil pipes and theres no elevation except when it goes into the refinery

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message its going up even tho no flow rate what

[brittle seal]

bro 😭 🙏

[fleet star]

the way that the fluid dynamics works is similar to real life, if you have a pipe that flows upwards you can only get water to its destination if the entirety of all pipework below it is filled

so therefore you wouldn't want to do it this way unless the lower part that's shown in your screenshot happens to just be a decline from a pipe that's even taller than the elevation for the actual input node on the refiner

even still you would need some excess fluid in all prior pipes to the input destination because of the backflowing I talked about earlier

[brittle seal]

yea ik abt this, just takes more time for production to start

[stone quiver]

Yknow you could just... not match inputs. It's ok to use more water. It's limitless

[brittle seal]

i can guarantee (i swear on my life ong) that the elevation does not exceed the 10m from the oil pump

[brittle seal]

its oil gng 😭 🙏

[unkempt blade]

but my power efficiency!?!?

[stone quiver]

Any factory at 100% uptime is a lie anyway

[brittle seal]

haters will hate no matter what

[stone quiver]

Oil. To pump!

[fleet star]

yeah but even if the elevation goes upwards from the water extractor at all then all pipe before the input destination will have backflow problems

[stone quiver]

Satisfactory has no maintenance or downtime. That is why you can achieve satisfactory #

[brittle seal]

what did they even fix with those fluid fixes 🥺 ✌️

[fleet star]

in reality you could also just put more water/min in the source pipe than what is required by the refinery so that you always have uptime

[unkempt blade]

I set them all to 99.99999 so they're always up

[jade portal]

my trucks are being weird, im tring to set up auto pilot and when i start at the station and go to load, nothing happens, i press F and the arm doesnt move like it should how do i fix this

[brittle seal]

bro its OIL and i dont have infinite oil lying around here 🥀

[fleet star]

I think the fluid fixes were more about the bugs that pipe supports and wall holes caused, not the physics behind fluids themselves

[stone quiver]

Just put pumps everywhere then

[cunning glade]

So how can a pipe fill with fluid with no flow rate

[stone quiver]

Because it filled before you looked

[winged herald]

can i somehow glitch into this to get the somersloop in the rocks? #screenshots message

[stone quiver]

A full pipe cannot flow.

Incompressible fluid.

[cunning glade]

But it wasn't full

It was filling

[unkempt blade]

make rock go 💥

[stone quiver]

Has to be flow from somewhere, pipe before it?

[winged herald]

dont have those yet

[unkempt blade]

you should MAM them, they're fun

[winged herald]

well yeah i am, i dont have the stuff for it yet

[brittle seal]

aig ima try ts but im telling you elevation shouldnt be a problem here 😔

[winged herald]

trying to get somersloops and besides the other 3 i found, according to the map this is the last closest one next to me. next one is really far away

[brittle seal]

headlift from pumps stay for the whole length of the pipe right? even after crossings etc.?

[unkempt blade]

I believe in you to get <200 sulfur to unlock it. Go forth and do great things!

[winged herald]

yes ik, i have not found sulfur yet. trying to do other things rn. anyway can i glitch into that rock or not

[unkempt blade]

I always just research the sulfur stuff 🤷‍♂️

set a map marker and get it later?

[quasi warren]

Same

I hunt for steel pipes early on from crash sites. And I unlock bombs EARLY

[winged herald]

i fully plan on researching explosions, i just have other task to do first. like find somersloops and sam

[unkempt blade]

The good news is you can find both of those not-under-rocks. I can't help you with that spot though 😄

[winged herald]

i got like 5 somersloops rn, i guess thats enough for now. and i just found sam actually lol

just found coal also. time to get started on a power plant w

and quartz lets go

[mild grove]

Hi all. I've just started playing within the last month and have have recently made it to oil. I am so confused on how the refinery works. All of the videos I run across is the perfect setup for this or assumes you know how everything works. Clearly... I don't, lol. I can get it to output rubber or plastic for a bit then it just stops producing (I have the output going to storage so I know that's working). I have plenty of oil output so that isn't an issue. I have it filling a fluid buffer without issue. If someone could give me some advice or just point me to an "actual" how to use the refinery video, that would be amazing. I am kicking myself for getting to this game so late. I love it!! Thanks!!

[quasi warren]

Refineries, when making plastic or rubber, also create HOR as a byproduct

Heavy Oil Residue

Which, you have to turn that into something else

Like fuel, then burn that fuel in a fuel generator

[mild grove]

I'm following so far 🙂

[unkempt blade]

flush the pipes or turn it into fuel or petrol coke

[quasi warren]

Which i suggested

That fuel from HOR can be used to fill fuel gens

And keep the system running

[unkempt blade]

but then you have to do something with the fuel or you'll just move the clog downstream

[quasi warren]

Which again, fuel gens

[unkempt blade]

if the output slot of a machine fills up it'll stop running just in general

[quasi warren]

Make power out of the excess fuel

[mild grove]

This is what I mean. Everyone assumes I know what I'm doing, lol.

[quasi warren]

Which is why im trying to explain it the best way I can :P

[unkempt blade]

Yeah but you're handsome and talented and totally capable of learning the game. You'll do great!

[quasi warren]

That seems so passive aggressive.

Like a backhanded compliment

[gloomy tusk]

i believe it was a genuine compliment

[unkempt blade]

You're insightful and communicate clearly and I think you're a wonderful person

[gloomy tusk]

You're as cool as a ficsit factory cart

[quasi warren]

I deadass do not know if this is satire or not-

[gloomy tusk]

it is

[quasi warren]

The tism hates me today apparently T-T

[unkempt blade]

I really appreciate the compliment but I'm not sure I'm quite as great as a factory cart

[gloomy tusk]

nothing can be as cool as a factory cart

[unkempt blade]

It's important to stay humble and recognize the greatness of the best vehicle in satisfactory

[gloomy tusk]

factory fart

[winged herald]

how can i make the big bean guys move away from my base. they are really annoying

[gloomy tusk]

kill them

[winged herald]

walking all over my belts and stuff smh

[brittle seal]

istg WE all hating on the fluid system, right?? my refineries still not fully working gng 😭 🙏

[mild grove]

Ok, can we start at a level I am sure I get. 2 input and 2 output. 1 each for fluid and solids. The fluid input comes from the extractor (thru the buffer). The solid output goes to my storage. What do I connect to the other two refinery connections to get this to function?

[quasi warren]

You are not dealing with the heavy oil residue

Which is the byproduct of plastic and rubber

You have to deal with that. Or your entire system backs up

And stops working completely

[mild grove]

And how do I deal with that>?

[unkempt blade]

In gamer communities I think it's just a lot more fun to be over the top nice. The people who are determined to be grouchy hate it and everyone else loves it 😆

[quasi warren]

Turn that HOR into something else

Such as fuel, in a different refinery

By piping it

Then, you have fuel now. What do you do with it? Well, you can burn it in fuel power plants for power

[mild grove]

Now we're getting somewhere 🙂 Let me go try that

[ornate saffron]

If you have packaged diluted fuel recipe you can do that and sink it, unpackage and burn it, or use it for jet packs and trucks

[ornate saffron]

Now that chat has calmed

Anyone watch the dev stream. What are the highlights? I find it difficult to understand mikeal lol

[jaunty vault]

Just made an alien power augmenter. Whats it do?

[quasi warren]

It gives a static 500mw to ur power grid, and it gives a 10% power boost to all power production and capacity, which can be increased to 30% down the line using a late game item

[jaunty vault]

Oh wow

Thats sick

[ornate saffron]

Provides 500mw of power and a 10% boost of your whole system

[jaunty vault]

Looks super cool too. If I make more does it change to 20 percent?

[quasi warren]

Its 10% boost each APA

[ornate saffron]

!wikiesearch alien_power_augmentor

[quasi warren]

So im not sure?

!wikisearch alien_power_augmentor

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=alien_power_augmentor

[ornate saffron]

The wiki knows all. The wiki is good. The wiki is the key

[zealous urchin]

hello chat

[winged herald]

chat i got explosives 💥

i kinda wish you could blow up / flatten the land like in space engineers

[zealous urchin]

buuuuuh

buh buh buh buh

hearing 10 chained cluster nobs explode one after another is great

[winged herald]

whats the best thing to sink early game? rn im just sinking concrete and copper wire because i have so much bulk of it

[acoustic bear]

I love blowing the trees up with clusters and watching the FPS dip

[acoustic bear]

uranium

[ornate saffron]

Sam and phase parts

[winged herald]

early game.. lol

[acoustic bear]

you can

[winged herald]

i have not even found uranium yet. i just unlocked coal power plants

[acoustic bear]

it's usually up high

hard to find

[winged herald]

im in the forrest area

[acoustic bear]

meh, I wouldn't worry too much

[ornate saffron]

If you started in the grassslnds there is sam in the caves under the arch. Refine it as high as you can and sink it.

[winged herald]

just trying to unlock more walls and glass and ect

[winged herald]

i did the forrest start for the 6 or so pure iron nodes

[quasi warren]

Northern forest?

[ornate saffron]

Find the river that splits the Forrest from the rocky desert near the coal there is a cave with sam

[winged herald]

i think so

im here #screenshots message

[stone quiver]

Is there an in game description on drones? I have batteries going in both in ports and I can't tell wtf is going on

[winged herald]

i found a impure sam spot right in the middle of the lake next to my power plant. what all is sam used for after research? nothing?

[stone quiver]

Late game everything

[ornate saffron]

Cloud storage and late game machines

[hollow hemlock]

wait till you get to the top game tier, then its used for alchemy

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch drones

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=drones

[winged herald]

ah so nothing to worry about right now then, i can just sink most of it

[hollow hemlock]

sure, if you want some free tickets sink away

[acoustic bear]

there is also sam up high between grass fields and the cliffs to the north

it's got some like spire/spider leg looking rocks sticking up around it

[ornate saffron]

He in forests

[quasi warren]

Im tapping 4 sam nodes rn, mostly all for activated sam and turned into the ones used for the DD

Forgot what they are called

[stone quiver]

This provides zero info on how to load a drone unfortunately

[ornate saffron]

Batteries fuel slot. Pretty sure its marked but its the one away from the pair. The paired ones are input and output for delivery

[stone quiver]

I am loading batteries on the input one and nothing is changing in the drone port that's my problem

It's just disappearing

[ornate saffron]

It goes into the drone until it is full

[stone quiver]

Ok I can't see the drone inventory though there's no way to interact with it

[fluid crow]

correct

drones have no options pretty much. they pick up when they are empty and empty when they're full

[stone quiver]

So I want to set all my drones to load at my battery factory to do the "2 drones per location" one that fuels one that transports

Do I need to NOT have a drone at the fueling depot or else it will keep filling itself?

[fluid crow]

presumably you want the fuel drone picking up the fuel and getting filled with it

[mossy vector]

Anyone know if the Satisfactory Plus Mod is really buggy? I just had a lot of terrain bugs, the final one caused me to fall through the world and die

[fluid crow]

then when it goes to another port you smart spitter it into the fuel supply there

[torn lynx]

im thinking about restarting after completing phase 2 nwo that i have a better understandign of the game

[ornate saffron]

Did you ask the modding discord? Its pinned in #welcome

[brittle seal]

guys i have this problem that in my packager (that is unpackaging fuel) the fuel output slot slowly goes full and then the machine stops producing for like 5s until the slot is almost empty again
the ratio is perfect (600 fuel to 30 fuel gens), how can this happen? 😭 🙏

[stone quiver]

So I have fuel depot (0 drone), drones fly here, load up, fly back, drop off to drone port A , the output splits to itself and drone port B. Drone port B handles high end materials from there to elsewhere

[mossy vector]

Thank you!

[torn lynx]

is thsi a bad idea

[ornate saffron]

Why, just build new elsewhere. You are not stuck at your location. The space limited
Elevator and hub can be deconstructed and moved.

[stone quiver]

You gain nothing by restarting other than a different start location

[torn lynx]

because a restart with what i know now soudns liek fun and its noice to keep things tidy

[stone quiver]

Delete everything, you probably only have 10s worth of clicks to delete

[ornate saffron]

If its fun say no more ^-^

[torn lynx]

i knwo but its about my factories not mu hub location

[stone quiver]

Delete away if you wish, but there's no benefit and your starter factory will only last a few hours anyway

Hmm my drone port shows zero outgoing items.... or incoming... but I'm loading the drone

[neon jay]

They need to make a doggo carry cage to transport doggos easy

[ornate saffron]

There is a doggo mod. Allows you to pick then up and play and such and a bunch of other features

[fluid crow]

seems like that should be 10 packagers @100%

[quasi warren]

Did you set up the route?

[brittle seal]

it is

[torn lynx]

ok, i think i sjut feel overwhelmed by the start of phase 3

[glossy pagoda]

Why are the bean creatures SO WEIRD I just had one riding one of my trains

[ornate saffron]

Happens to us all. If redoing phase 1 helps amd you find it fun. Do it.

Most of us find making steps backward unfun. Thats all.

[torn lynx]

alright

[ornate saffron]

@timid kindle

You mean sexy beast

#screenshots message

[brittle seal]

how exactly does a buffer fuel storage work? i placed one onto the pipe network but it just drains all the fluid and my power dropped by 30% ?

[timid kindle]

unique taste

[ornate saffron]

They don't work. Often the cause issues

Buffers are used for trains

[brittle seal]

legendary. found this idea on reddit, never looking on there for tips again

crashing out over this fluid system since 4hrs, still not working bro ✌️

[ornate saffron]

If you want some tested tip and tricks check out the plumbing manual pinned in #math-and-meta

[brittle seal]

ima check it out, thanks
also is it true that they are planning new fluid fixes for 1.2?

[ornate saffron]

Well the teaser thumbnail said

We fixed fluids

*kinda

We saw what looked like a fluid truck and thats it

There was a dev stream today but I don't know what was talked about

[brittle seal]

🥺 🤞

looks like even the devs grew tired of their fluid system

[ornate saffron]

If you watch the live stream give me the highlights. I have issues comprehending mikeals accent atm lol

[karmic elm]

i've only had problems with liquids

[brittle seal]

is that livestream over? how long was it

[ornate saffron]

2.5 hours i think you can get the link in #dev-streams

[brittle seal]

yea not watching that but ty 😭

[ornate saffron]

Im mostly past fluid issues. Took 1000 hours though

[willow pond]

trees falling over and sounding like heavy footsteps is still scaring me occasionally

[karmic elm]

best fix i found is just doing the water tower effect thing

[brittle seal]

what is this?

[ornate saffron]

Irl or in game.

Irl that would scare me. I live in a city lol

[karmic elm]

you make a one pipe go high up

[willow pond]

oh in game, the ones that take like 2 seconds from when you chop a tree down sound like 2 big footsteps to me

[ornate saffron]

The tower doesnt matter just the pipe height. As long as its above your highest input you are good

[karmic elm]

and it makes it so you don't need pumps to bring fluids up anymore. Unless you go higher than your tower

[brittle seal]

bro im having problems on an even height in my factory 😭

[karmic elm]

what are you trying to move?

[brittle seal]

600m3 of fuel to 30 fuel gens

[karmic elm]

mk1 pipess?

[brittle seal]

nah mk2

[gloomy tusk]

drones should transport liquids

[worthy hatch]

So we getting weather back?

[brittle seal]

top 5 worst ideas oat bro

[karmic elm]

remind me what the issue is?

[white dawn]

I wouldn't recommend relying on that, btw. If CSS does end up touching the fluid system, that's the kind of edge case which could very easily break

[ornate saffron]

Split it up. Link less refineries together so there's more room in the pipe. Instead of one pipe feeding 30 gens use 3 pipes feeding 10 for example.

Packagers in your case

[brittle seal]

.

[white dawn]

Pumps are practically free. If you want liquids to go up, just use a pump

[gloomy tusk]

top 5 best?

[karmic elm]

are you using diluted fuel alternate?

[worthy hatch]

I always use a down flow system for liquids

[willow pond]

boats, airships, animal mounts, farming, missiles

[brittle seal]

yea
i just cut the power of 6 gens so the others can fuel up fully again, if this doesnt work im finna go to bed in defeat

[ornate saffron]

Did you catch the dev stream ?

[karmic elm]

wait wait

are your cannisters overflowing?

[worthy hatch]

They must meditate

[karmic elm]

would love to send sulfur to the other end of the map via rocket ship

[brittle seal]

the empty ones? no
the fueled ones are on 100 in the packagers

[white dawn]

No, I've actually never watched their streams; way too much time commitment. I just wait for summaries or ignore entirely. :)

[ornate saffron]

Same.... I need a summery as im curious. I thirst for knowledge.

[karmic elm]

are you certain they aren't

[brittle seal]

problem basically is that these dumbass pipes dont drain the fuel of one of the packagers fast enough so at some point it hits the capacity of 50 fuel, then stops working, then the whole calculation of 600fuel/min gets cooked and at some point this bottleneck reaches a generator and it stops working

happens ~2 times per minute on avg

maybe 3 times, basically just a gamble

[karmic elm]

i lowkey needd to see it in action to help

[brittle seal]

is there a vc here where i can stream

[fluid crow]

you probably going to need both ends the pipe to get a solid 600

[willow pond]

idea 6: human housing set up on the map to formalize prepping for colonization

[ornate saffron]

No

[brittle seal]

ima try to make a clip of it hold up

[karmic elm]

could've just added me and screen shared in a call

[ornate saffron]

Make a post in #1038092680493801533 there you can make a detailed summary post pictures and videos.

This is a poor forum for troubleshooting

[brittle seal]

aig unc we doing that

[karmic elm]

unc ;-;

[acoustic bear]

whats the best way to keep a drone network fueled? just batteries? and should I like have a drone dedicated to delivering batteries around or something?

[fluid crow]

batteries gives a long range but other wise isn't necessary

[feral jay]

I almost always use batteries. They're not used for anything else aside from a single supercomputer alt, so you're not tempted to "peel a few off" for something else and risk running out of fuel

[acoustic bear]

well I got abundant batteries automated

[naive palm]

a single chad battery delivery drone.

[feral jay]

And the production chain isn't too much

[acoustic bear]

so now I'm thinking use programmable splitters to peel my batteries off on delivery to each port and put them into storage for fueling

I'm building a test loop now to see if it works

[feral jay]

Nah that's overkill, just have a "battery gopher" for every set of dron ports you have. Between the drone's 9 stacks and the port's 18, you've got plenty storage

[ornate saffron]

Ive only used rods and rocket fuel. Ill use trains to get the whatever drone fuel you are using into the general area then a Chad drones to go around fueling other drones stations

[feral jay]

Nuclear fuel might be interesting, when I get this save to the point of producing plutonium rods to deal with uranium waste

[acoustic bear]

can one drone only go to one port?

[feral jay]

Correct

[acoustic bear]

ok

so these are dedicated items I see

[white dawn]

Keep an eye on https://www.youtube.com/@SatisfactoryClipsArchive/videos, should land there eventually

[feral jay]

So what I do is I build a fuel depot drone port where I make my fiuel. And then every set of drone ports has an "extra" drone to fetch fuel and feed to all those ports, so every drone is refuelled at every stop

[acoustic bear]

that makes perfect sense now

[leaden turret]

literally about to process the stream now 😛

p.s. because CSS are streaming on YouTube on the regs now, only notable/multi-part clips get uploaded to the archive channel.

everything still goes on https://archive.satisfactory.video/ tho

[feral jay]

Ooh, thanks, I missed it

[leaden turret]

• rain confirmed
• no, golf! no golf confirmed
• that game mode that everyone thinks is coming is probably coming but wasn't explicitly confirmed

[ornate saffron]

Date every ore Sim coming but not confirm. Fudge yes!

[leaden turret]

also theorised that Hannah would probably more likely to want to go for option 3

[willow pond]

what's the current soft limit on how many people can be on one server before instabilities start up?

[ornate saffron]

Pc or console

[willow pond]

pc

[acoustic bear]

it's pretty RAM dependant IIRC

but you can get 12-16 on a strong server IIRC

[leaden turret]

-# insert sheep simulator joke here

[ornate saffron]

I want a date everything simulator but for satisfactory. I wana date ADA and cheat on her with the GUI

[willow pond]

i mean, are we talking 12-16 people on a 64gb server?

[leaden turret]

remind me to add to https://tools.satisfactory.video/PionR/

[acoustic bear]

I honestly don't know what the upper limit is. I'm just going off what I've seen hosting services provide which isn't that meaningful as a guide

[leaden turret]

there's a community event that tries to get 128 to stand on as a tower

[acoustic bear]

it could be substantially more

[willow pond]

that's silly and stupid and i love it

[acoustic bear]

same. that's the kind of video game shenanigans I love

[feral jay]

Speking of which, I want "Shenanigans" back as the default sign text

[acoustic bear]

https://tenor.com/view/shenanigans-super-troopers-gif-15906272

[leaden turret]

reminder: they mis-spelled it

[feral jay]

lol I never noticed that actually

[leaden turret]

Text: Change text using this field. Default text is "Shennanigans" (sic).

[willow pond]

i prefer SeaNannergans

because that's a perfect description of both him and what he got up to

[hallow flicker]

1 lately in late game.

[nova ridge]

lol.

[junior jolt]

whats the next power source after coal

[grim carbon]

does anyone know when the default version of the game will be updated like the experimental version has already been updated as of today?

[ornate saffron]

Oil and oil products

[hollow hemlock]

Liquid biomass 😁

[junior jolt]

what tier is oil, or can i unlock that anytime

[hollow hemlock]

Maybe geothermal

[ornate saffron]

T5 I thinks

[junior jolt]

oh damn

[ornate saffron]

Purely mam based. So steel production is his for that

[junior jolt]

so me on stage 2 only has coal for a whole

[hollow hemlock]

There's plenty of coal out there, get to polluting and exploiting

[ornate saffron]

Depends on how much time you spend in phase 2. I spent 100 hours there this time

[junior jolt]

is tractor worth it

[willow pond]

i usually set up 1 full compacted coal plant with a dedicated sulfur & coal node for early game, then i'll work on getting geothermal up an running until i can unlock oil & do turbofuel

[junior jolt]

cos idk how i would use kt

im sitting in early phase 2, slowly making automated wiring and wondering why this is so inoptimal

[ornate saffron]

It can be. I can't drive them so....

[feral jay]

heh I just learned there's a new build out on experimenta;, CSS is getting roasted

"What's new though?" "Suff! Hundreds of stuff!"

[willow pond]

yea, notes would be nice

[willow pond]

i assume that's just a brain fart tho

[ornate saffron]

You'll get them..... eventually

They likely talked about it in today's dev stream

[feral jay]

yeah that's great, it says a lot of nothing

[leaden turret]

1.2 not on experimental yet

[willow pond]

new engine guts is the only real announcement in all that

[feral jay]

They could have at least mentioned it broke SML for now

(although I understand why they didn't, it being a third party thing and all)

[leaden turret]

engine updates breaking mods is a known issue

[willow pond]

hell, sneezing on a notepad can break mods

[feral jay]

Yeah I suppose most people who actually read patch notes would be aware of that

[ornate saffron]

Co pilot being forced into notepad breaks mods

[willow pond]

🤮

[fluid crow]

vim on top

[willow pond]

you just know that they're going to do to Windows what they did with TVs. fill it full of garbage, then charge people to remove it

[fluid crow]

sinking ship

[willow pond]

enshittification

sorry if that's a filter bypass, but it got Word of the Year for a reason

[leaden turret]

MS: "People aren't using copilot"
People not using co-pilot: "we don't want to"
MS: "Clearly we need to put it more places"
[skinner the kids who are wrong meme]

[sleek creek]

How do you dismantle a blueprint you just placed?

[acoustic bear]

F then R

[sleek creek]

ty

[leaden turret]

tapping R in dismantle mode toggles piece-by-piece or blueprint dismantle mode

[willow pond]

yea, can cycle remove blueprint

[feral jay]

Swearing is allowed here in moderation, ask @leaden turret for clarification

(or at least if it isn't, I've gotten away with it)

[acoustic bear]

big difference in simple swears and swearing at someone

[leaden turret]

[quotes George Carlin, gets banned]

[fluid crow]

here's some examples of of enshittification from google AI overview
Examples:

Google Search: Initial, "minimization of ads", evolved, "into, "increased ad space", and, "commercial surveillance.
Smart Products: Cars, "collect and analyze user data".
Streaming/Social Media: Platforms, "change algorithms", reducing, "the reach of, "organic content" to, "push, "paid, "promotion.

[willow pond]

🤣

[willow pond]

now i know roughly how old you are 😛

[leaden turret]

asking AI for info on enshitification is using enshitification to ask about enshitification.

also clankers are off-topic.

[willow pond]

i think my dad has that skit on an 8 track somewhere

[leaden turret]

well I was initially gonna go [quotes Blink 182], but that's not as clear a reference even for those familiar with Blink 182

[hollow hemlock]

This is how you cause it to become self aware and go full skynet on us all

[versed cosmos]

problem with google is that theyve pretty much captured all users. there's no new customers to aquire and publicly traded companies are contractually obligated to provide greater profits to their shareholders year after year, so the model must evolve to extract more and more value from existing users, making their experience worse, hence enshittification

[leaden turret]

you can satis your factory but you can't factory your satis

[acoustic bear]

I was going to quote Buster Keaton or The Three Stooges...

[willow pond]

Skynet is plenty terrifying, now imagine a 20 IQ Skynet

[acoustic bear]

(not really)

[fluid crow]

that's exactly what it said

[hollow hemlock]

So basically a cat?

[leaden turret]

-# cough grok cough

[leaden turret]

that's an insult to cats

[willow pond]

🤣

[leaden turret]

[willow pond]

yea, cats are smart, just assholes

[leaden turret]

not all cats have zero braincells, some are smart, some timeshare just the one

Lizard Catto would be smarter than Lizard Doggo

<@&370483737957236737> implement Lizard Catto, swats items off belts

[willow pond]

ngl a real life lizard doggo would be terrifying

[hollow hemlock]

But it would only drop off dead hogs and spitters. And sometimes live ones

[leaden turret]

canonically, a real life lizard doggo can be defeated with a poster tube

[hidden pebble]

Guys my miner is not pushing 1200 even tho the consumption is 1200, and my machines are starving

[leaden turret]

Lizard Catto would only bring you items if it thinks you can't automate

[leaden turret]

check your belts for accidental lack-of-upgrades

[hidden pebble]

All mk 6

[willow pond]

check for that hiding 1m section of mk3

[feral jay]

I use Effeciency Checker for that, it tells you what the max throughput is and takes into account the lowest speed section of belt. It doesn't tell me where it is if I missed a piece, but it does confirm whether or not it's all upgraded

[hollow hemlock]

It's going to be hiding in between the 2 splitters you put too close together

[errant crystal]

Just finished Phase 4 and I fear for my powergrid

[hidden pebble]

My splitters are spaciously placed. And i didn't see any non mk6 stuff in my build

[hollow hemlock]

Well what is it running at, put a throughput monitor at the miner

[ornate saffron]

Good time to upgrade nitro rocket fuel or nuclear.

[hollow hemlock]

It's always a good time for nuclear

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes a lower tier belt can hide. Delete all belts and splitter and remake.

[sleek creek]

Where can I find blueprints? Looking for some inspiration for 2 rail platforms.

[hidden pebble]

The throughput monitor is wildly fluctuating

[ornate saffron]

Google.

[errant crystal]

I have a basic nuclear with 5 generators and sinking the processed waste, I'm working rn on a 20 nuclear reactor setup and planning on using the remaining plutonium to generate power to and eventually ficsonium

SHould take a week haha

[hollow hemlock]

It'll settle into something sooner or later, unless you have wild consumption fluctuations

[willow pond]

"wild consumption fluctuations" is what i call the weekend

[hollow hemlock]

Superbowl is over, what's this weekend's excuse

[hidden pebble]

A mk6 belt being fully utilised won't have empty gaps in it. I see empty gaps in my belt, so it's the miner's fault most probably. And since there are empty gaps, perhaps it isn't a case of a belt blockage.

[ornate saffron]

You can listen to bad bunny as the factory grows. 🐰

[hollow hemlock]

Clear the buffer in the miner

[hidden pebble]

It's already clear

[hollow hemlock]

Well then that should mean the miner is running 100%, is it mk 3 and fully sharded

And not accidentally 98.995360%

[willow pond]

ah yes, my favorite math, the kind that's wrong

[hidden pebble]

It is running at 100%

I mean it's that confusing and that's why i queried. Usually i solve them myself

[leaden turret]

Lizard Doggo's internal name is Space Rabbit.

game is probably in favour of bad bunny

[hollow hemlock]

It is a pure node right

[hidden pebble]

It is, but are we doing sanity checks now😃

[hollow hemlock]

Yes I think that's where it is

[willow pond]

i still want a hoggo mount

[hollow hemlock]

The jetpack one, for sure

[feral jay]

Aw crap I sorted inventory with uranium ore in there

Would be nice to get that bug fixed

[sudden patio]

That bug is as old as uranium itself

[stone quiver]

What's the bug

Is that why I got irradiated to max and ate 100s of filters before dying?

[hollow hemlock]

at this point they should just designate it as an easter egg, have Ada play something like "Much like one should not cross the streams, one should also not sort the inventory while holding uranium"

[unborn nova]

am i able to use the pipelin pumps to make pipes flow a certain direction?

id assume so right but idk if it actually does anything

[feral jay]

Yes, a pump is unidirectional, even if it's unpowered.

[peak wasp]

Why does fluid in pipelines get stuck? Do you need pumps everywhere?

[unborn nova]

oh even unpowered? didnt know that

[feral jay]

It doesn't get "stuck", the game actually models it flowing back and forth, it's referred to as sloshing

Like when the fluid in a pipe bounces off the end, it reflects back

[peak wasp]

What do I do to stop that? I make fuel gens and it gets stuck

[feral jay]

Or if a machine spits out a bunch, it forces fluid in the connected pipe in both directions, and that can fuck up your flow

[feral jay]

The first and best thing is to completely fill the pipes, that almost completely eliminates sloshing

Turn some machines off or underclock them until the pipes are full

And, keep your pipe networks as simple as possible

[unborn nova]

ye i think that was happening to me that i had to fix, i had dark matter flowing both into a container and one side of it wasnt draining 600/ min

[feral jay]

The game sorta realistically models the momentum of liquid moving in a pipeline

[ivory condor]

Those suggestions never work for my manifolds, have throughput issues to this day with mk2 pipes, always have to loop the ends, even trying to prefill them doesnt get rid of issue

[peak wasp]

it's realistic?

[ivory condor]

If its realistic i hate it

[unborn nova]

how does the amount currently being consumed go over the max?

[feral jay]

Looping is what gives the pipes room to let fluid go in both directions. Otherwsie when a machine spits out a bunch of fluid, it forces the fluid both ways, which stops machines earlier in a manifold from producing, as the pipe is full. Looping the pipe helps with that a lot.

[feral jay]

It's "realistic". Note the quotation marks lol

[ivory condor]

Any chance i can have "unrealistic" pipes instead

[feral jay]

Not really, although they've seriously hinted at some significant changes to fluids with 1.2

[ivory condor]

Fluid trucks arent really a fix

[feral jay]

Oh, agreed. They've confirmed fluid trucks but hinted at other things.

So, I'm hoping...

[ivory condor]

Well we at least know 1.2 will include the engine upgrade, as thats already on experimental

[cunning glade]

I wonder if they make a fanf jumpscare mod for this game

Factorio has one and so does terraria

[glacial drum]

1/1000 chance..

[cunning glade]

I installed it too get my friend and I've gotten it more 😔

[feral jay]

This game already has plenty good jumpscares

[cunning glade]

True

I'm so glad this game doesn't have bugs

[junior jolt]

im in a cave rn and it keeps coming up with “radiation level” what?

[cunning glade]

Well that like attack ur factory

[feral jay]

It has hellspawn spiders, I count those as "bugs"

oh, base defense, yes, agreed

[glacial drum]

There are items that give off radiation. It can damage you. You can eventually avoid the damage from something you receive via milestone completion.

[junior jolt]

theres an ore

do i collect the ore

[glacial drum]

Stay away from it if possible

[ivory condor]

Plenty of base defense games, this doesnt need it

[feral jay]

DO NOT COLLECT THE GREEN ORE

[junior jolt]

im in a mycelia cave so yeah i should be fine