satisfactory

[forest dew]

Hey all

Still having issues.

Im at the point of deleting all the power setup i've got and starting again

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you to figure whatever it is out

[forest dew]

Literally flip on, fuse blows.

The usage vs generated is fine

[rugged stratus]

im currently automating space elevator's phase 4 items, any tips? this literally blows my mind

[fluid crow]

if you are connecting running generators to a grid with a blown generator connected it doesn't work

[forest dew]

None of myt generators work now.

[unkempt blade]

general troubleshooting:

1. Disconnect non-essential stuff from the grid (or disconnect individual power plants if it comes to that)
2. Get the power and any fuel-generating factory back online. Start with the small ones
3. Add your factories back in one at a time. Give them a little time to spin up unless you're confident they IMMEDIATELY consume their max power and it's not going to be delayed going through stages of production coming back up
4. Get some power storage or priority power switches set up afterwards so it doesn't happen again

[fluid crow]

if it's coal you may need to get the water running first

[forest dew]

Yes, it is coal. I'

Ive disonnected the main factory from the power plant line.

[unkempt blade]

Isolate the coal miner, water extractors, and power generators. Get them running with temporary biomass burners if needed. Then start reconnecting other stuff

[forest dew]

I have

but im getting intermittent issues

I.e power, no power, power, no power

So it's clearly my setup to generate power

[unkempt blade]

is your power production a flat line when you look at the graph or are there bumps?

isolate and make it flat

[fluid crow]

one of the more common issues is the generators shutting off from a lack of water flow

[forest dew]

Its flat now BUT i can generate 1k in power but only half is ghenerating

[unkempt blade]

I'd also add, if the coal belt isn't saturated it'll bounce around until it becomes saturated

[forest dew]

It was bumpy

All coal belts are full

[unkempt blade]

sounds like probably water then

[forest dew]

Flow rate is only 60m3

So theres the issue then.. right?

[unkempt blade]

how many coal gens and extractors are you running?

[forest dew]

3 extractors

12 coal generators

[unkempt blade]

ok there's at least one problem then

3:8 is the ratio you want for normal clocking

the second thing to watch out for is if you try to connect all 3 from the same pipe there's not enough throughput for them (300 vs 360) so try hooking 2 up from side A and 1 from side B

[forest dew]

So ive disconnected the 3rd as I was trying to push 3 through mk1 pipes.

TYhe 3rd is feeding the 6 new ones on it's own and the 2 the other (existing) 6

[unkempt blade]

Both sides of that are probably having issues then. You want 45 water per generator

try a 3:8 to start with

[glacial drum]

All the crafting should be done in my new factory.. Think I’ll send stuff up one more floor though purely for storage.

[unkempt blade]

if you don't want to do 3:8 double check your math for 6 generators and overclock/add more extractors as needed

[glacial drum]

I don’t think I can effectively and space efficiently store things here

[forest dew]

Okay, thank you im just doing it all now

[unkempt blade]

My dog says it's park time but good luck with your power 😄

[forest dew]

Thanks very much

[humble osprey]

im transporting nitrogen gas, pick for me, fuild wagon or packaged in normal wagon

[fluid crow]

I've heard gases are bad in fluid cars

[forest dew]

I quit lol

I cannot get any of my generations to startup

Ive got flow up to 288

Im starting to think I need to generate mor e

[pallid ridge]

if a train need to get from station A to C, but it can go through B, will it always wait for station B to be opened?

[real shale]

Depends if you have a bypass lane or not, if not, and there's a train sitting there currently it'll either crash into it or wait at the block signal until it leaves

[pallid ridge]

i have a bypass lane, but it's further

and the train just sit there waiting

[tall lantern]

trains don't dynamically route based on conditions

better to just not have the station on the mainline

[pallid ridge]

i'm trying to build big factory, and it's my first time packing multiple train in the same place. guess i learn new thing

[glacial drum]

My tech factory is finally complete

So now 30 of the ai limiters can finally go towards nuke nobelisks

[pallid ridge]

If i put a path signal, then another path signal Infront of it due to it splits into another junction, does it suppose to not work?

[brittle seal]

does someone know if the items that spawn at a crash site are random or set?

[ornate saffron]

set

[sterile blade]

Iirc, a train needing to go through both signals will have to wait for the both to be green before engaging the first. Path rules still apply, so they should be able to share the blocks with other trains if they have different paths

[pallid ridge]

Is there a way to tell the meaning of warning sign?

[brittle seal]

thanks twin

[sterile blade]

Interacting with it should give you all the info you can get... Not much, but that's what we work with 😅

[pallid ridge]

Alr thanks

[sterile blade]

#1038092680493801533 works great if you have in-depth problems or doubts, as you can add pictures of your layout in your own thread
@pallid ridge

[pallid ridge]

I will later if I'm still stuck with it. I just think that my problem just needs a small fix

[sterile blade]

Sure, mine was just a heads-up. Good luck and happy learning

[lethal wave]

question, anyone know if you can have say ex, cars Infront of the train and the station in the middle cause in a new world cause i hate my self, a train net work that can suport 100 activly moving trains

you good? you have you're inhalers? i gave you 20 use them

[sterile blade]

I cannot make sense of what you're asking
Could you rephrase that?

[fickle locust]

You can... but this sounds difficult to manage

You can put 100 trains on the map just by making a big rail network, you don't need to manage front-and-back cars as well

[lethal wave]

i want them all doing something

[stoic nebula]

falls into chat

[fickle locust]

No I get that. I have 100 trains on the map all doing things, but they're all set up like normal trains because it's easier to manage that way

[sterile blade]

By the math I ran, things might get tricky when trying to have more than ~30 trains over the same piece of rail (eg: all sharing one intersection)

[lethal wave]

so, do you just make mutiple stations in one location or have one really long on with ex, train station, 3 frate platforms than another strain station with its plat forms, like will that work, cause i like the idea of having difrent length trains but i dont want say 3 sepret platforms, i want one platform that all the trains can use and depending on the time they can all pull up and dock at the same time

[fickle locust]

I've generally landed on a system of station+2 platforms+station+2 platforms

If the timing works out you do get 1 train in the front station and 1 in the back

[lethal wave]

ive already used 100 computers on blockers and path signals, and they are all spaced just emuff to have a 6 segment train on them, because thats the length of the tain i use personal to transport all the 10s of thousands of steel beams for my rail way, cause i like it to look pretty

[fickle locust]

You can also do completely separated stations next to each other horizontally. I work around the terrain so that's generally not feasible (not enough space to fit two stations side-by-side) but depending on how your world is set up it's definitely feasible. Especially in open spaces like Grassy Fields and Dune Desert

[lethal wave]

ik right

[sterile blade]

Sounds like solid groundwork

[fickle locust]

What I like about 1 station 2 cars is it's very easy to keep track of what each train is doing and where on the train resources are. It's super annoying when you have a tight station and want to unload, but the resource you want to unload is in position 4 so you need a super long station of 3 empty platforms and the ending freight platform

Whereas with 1-2-1-2 there's no position 4. Everything is in Position 1 or 2

[lethal wave]

ok, thank you you made it so i dient have to fuck around to find out, cause i really dident wanna go in blind for this, because if i just spent 30 hours placing rails and than now am at the place where i want to have say 13 matts droped of and 5 going out bound, to than have it take up more space than needed, because now i know it can be longer and work we chilling, btw that station is going to be 21 long, because thats what 9 plus 10 is

[lethal wave]

ya, i had a station that had 2 empty platforms but they alternated

[obsidian quail]

trains!

[reef basin]

I know what they said that they won't do

[rugged stratus]

quick question, I automated only space elevator phase 2 items, and now I need phase 4 space elevator items, do I automate them or go with handcrafting?

[ornate saffron]

you dont need phase 3?

[lethal wave]

hey did you know that someone is currently modding the game to be randomly genrated, with the same amount of nodes, crash sites, somer sloops, and mencer spheres

[rugged stratus]

I automated only the items needed for phase 3 items

[glacial drum]

Damn game crashed again sigh

[lethal wave]

automate even if its slow, unless you just have all the resorse than ya, go head and put em all in containers into the thing

[rugged stratus]

yea, I was thinking that, but in satisfactory tools site its pretty confusing and I dont know how to make a organized factory

[lethal wave]

i atleast have everything automated even if its slow, cause beter it being made than not

[rugged stratus]

how did u organized your factories?

[ornate saffron]

you cannot hand craft phase parts. but you can hand feed machines if you wish.

since the next phase usually requires the previous phase parts i tend to automate everything using the infrustructor i have already made. for example i need smart plates are needed for modular engines. ill just transport the smart plates im already making to the facility where the modular engines are made

[rugged stratus]

yes, hand feed machines, I just said it wrong my bad

but recycling space elevator factories is smart tbh

[ornate saffron]

you can hand feed every machine you wish to if that is the way you want to play

[rugged stratus]

I would want to automate, but its confusing for me

[ornate saffron]

are you using a calculator like satisfactory tools?

[rugged stratus]

yes

[lethal wave]

bro i do, im just lazy for certain things, like onvce i unlock the bluprint thing, in every playthor solo or no i make train track moduals, with the tracks, (ik i deleat every other one), compact fuel gen with clean none cliping pipes, cleen refinry set up for the fuel and plastic/rubberwith all that stuf, and than theres things i cant make with the blueprints, like the litterly everything eles

[cursive fox]

There is a site where you can see exactly how to produce chains and where to use them ?

[placid stirrup]

There are a few, pinned in #math-and-meta .
I'm biased towards SFTools

[ornate saffron]

my suggestion is to take a screen shot and break it down into segments to make it easy here is a example.

Zula has crosses out what he has completed as he works

#math-and-meta message

[obsidian quail]

satisfactory-tools
but like... try on your own first. otherwise, you're just wasting your time really.

[glacial drum]

For the simple factories I usually hand calculate but you definitely want your math checked on the bigger ones. Or maybe ya don’t.. I do..

[lethal wave]

if there was a vc in this place, id be happy to join it and guide you thro making a orginized factory, i cruntly have 90% of all my stuff orginized and clean, kind because 90% of everything i have placed is steel foundations, foundations, tracks, windows, and convayors in that exact order

[lethal wave]

im alwasy off by 4

[rugged stratus]

may I ask one of your saves so I can take any ideas? If you want

[rugged stratus]

the problem is not the math, its organization

[lethal wave]

yea im now in phase 4, for the 3rd time in a difrent save file, well time to ignore all that stuff for 30 hours and continue making a rail way that consumes 10000 steel beams 1000 concret 25 computers 50 pipes and 100 iron plates, every 1km on average

i like trains

[lethal wave]

sure

[rugged stratus]

alr, go dma

[lethal wave]

if i can figure out how to find the files in my computer

[ornate saffron]

I found using blue printers really help me space things out. made think how much room a machine takes.

on a mark one Blue printer i can fit 4 constructors wide or two assemblers or one manufactor. i know a mk1 blueprinter is 4x4 foundations. this lets me see the space i need in 4x4 chunks

[meager basin]

is there a better way to route components to "local" factories other than big conveyor bus?

[ornate saffron]

trucks, factory carts

[ornate saffron]

factory carts do not require fuel and only have one slot. but thats enough for a stack of smart plates

[unkempt blade]

I think the general sentiment is against bus-style conveyors in this game (unlike say factorio) but beyond that moving stuff from one spot to another is mostly a preference thing

[fluid crow]

being 3d if you are going to make a bus vertical often makes the most sense

[ornate saffron]

i dont use buses per say. but i have no bproblem just using conveyors to transport parts

#design-and-architecture message

[meager basin]

lets say i need to transport screws to 3 separate small factories, then i need 3 stations in my screw factory, right?

[unkempt blade]

don't move the screws, if anything move the ingots or whatever you're using to make the screws

screws are a high quantity item so you're going to have a bad time trying to conveyor them around further than necessary

[ornate saffron]

scerw factory????? hold up lol

its easy to transport ingots rather then screws as it is a more dense part. make your screws in the factory you use them in. through put is always going to be your bottle neck

[meager basin]

found out the hard way

[unkempt blade]

that's just learning!

[lethal wave]

id use the mk 2 for that stuff, and the mark one for making a 2 lane drive train sectons (make the itersectecon where it can go strait or right/left in a mk 2 cause its just too small if you do make a two laner) on foundations so its easier to build a masive net work cleanly and than after placeing them deleat everyother track place blockers and reconect them all

[ornate saffron]

Whatever works for ya. My point is it gives you a staple for machine size so you can plan out the space you need

[unkempt blade]

I'm personally not a purist when it comes to this concept but I still think it's probably worth a read if you're getting used to the game https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[meager basin]

okay so new plan is, lets say i need to make vers. framework, i already make modular frames, but dont have much beams to spare, should i transport the frames to a place with coal and iron, make the frameworks there and then bring them back?

using trains lets say, cause its a long way

[ornate saffron]

in the end find the solution you like hte best. im fine with using belts under 1km if they dont look like shite

[ornate saffron]

personally Modular frames are low enough on the part pyramid id just make them in a new factory as iron is everywhere.

[meager basin]

i already have separate factory for tthem

[unkempt blade]

So that link I posted is going to tell you to make a factory for versatile frames and make the components you need for them within that factory. You can decide how strictly you actually want to follow that

[lethal wave]

find a location with ample iron and coal close by and than build a place there to make hella steel and have it make the beams there, split them off to deep stroage on sight and the other half in a tain, to take it off to be used in the beams and other things

[meager basin]

i see, in the independency strategy you just make everything from basic components right? but i already produce a wide spectrum of components so i need to use them

[unkempt blade]

At a certain point your existing modular frames are going to be consumed if you ship them around to various other factories and it may not always be obvious when you hit that amount and need to expand

that's kind of the challenge with making one big ingredient factory and using it for lots of other stuff

[meager basin]

things are starting to get a bit tricky i see

[unkempt blade]

yeah this game doesn't really have very difficult math but there's a lot of easy math and tracking numbers as part of logistics

[feral jay]

Is there a reason I can't seem to post or comment on the QA site? (Yes I'm logged in)

Oh nvm, images need to be links

[lethal wave]

i do wish we had the ability to press a buttion to invert ex a bluprint, or the factory spripes line swash

[ornate saffron]

i use spreadsheets to keep track. every factory is a page. keeping track of waht nodes are being used how much being produced vs max. incomeing and outgoing logistics. its the only way i can keep track

[lethal wave]

if i cant rember ill place a sgin or re do my math

[meager basin]

i have one for my gas power plant, helps with organization

[reef basin]

no, why do you ask me?

[lethal wave]

because you asked about more mapps in that post

[ornate saffron]

i work all the math out in spreadsheets before i turn on the game and double check it in tools.

[feral jay]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/698a4d3df991d027c56ff1d8 upvote or correct me if I'm wrong plz

[reef basin]

I did not?

I said devs won't do more maps

[feral jay]

I'd put money on them doing that... eventually, maybe as a DLC. No plans for it now though.

[reef basin]

they'd need new Hannah for that

[feral jay]

Actually that would be a great bet because you can't prove a negative lol

[reef basin]

honestly I think they'll start working on a new game and SF will get like 1.2, 1.3 at most

[tender knoll]

Guys i need help w progression

So i unlocked the entirety of tier 8 and nuclear power & advanced aluminum or what in tier 9

And i kinda speedran these tier unlocks

Js buying them from the awesome sink

And now i have wayyy too much things infront of me and idk what to do

Like i have nuclear power, i have advanced aluminum (i barely have normal aluminum automated) i need to automate the radio thing the supercomputer and so on and so forth

[reef basin]

check what item you want to automate
automate that item
repeat

[lethal wave]

bruh

[reef basin]

what?

[tender knoll]

I want to automate everything and nothing cuz idk which ones are useful

[reef basin]

yeah, do one at a time

anything that you need to build something is useful

[tender knoll]

I want to do nuclear power but i feel like its lowk useless

So i want to build supercomputer automatization but i have to automate 3 things for that

[reef basin]

it's the most powerful power source in the game (in terms of power per gen, or energy per fuel piece)

[stoic nebula]

@tender knoll build it all at once

[fickle locust]

You need to define your goal for the game--the default would be "finish the space elevator." So you have 4 components you need to make, those will require sub-components, etc. It can help to make a little spreadsheet and go down the tree for all the things you'll need

[tender knoll]

But shouldn't i automate more important stuff first? Or just do what i want to?

[reef basin]

you should automate whatever you need and not ask us how to play your game 😛

[hard stump]

Doubt this question can properly be answered besides space elevator parts and ingots and liquids how many parts are in this game?

[tender knoll]

This lowk smart

[stoic nebula]

i use a spreadsheet

[reef basin]

you can check e.g. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/codex/items

[feral jay]

LOL https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69794a0bbe1d99650aa169a4

[fickle locust]

Trains don't make sonic booms, game is unplayable

[regal arch]

Is it me, or have updates become far less frequent?

[trim sage]

im live everyone should watch and make my dream of becoming a satisfactory streamer come true fr 🙏

[tall lantern]

#streams-and-videos

[tall lantern]

well, not particularly surprising since you would expect early access to be faster-paced.
But there'll be me another round of updates around 1.2 I'm sure

if they do experimental for this one then there'll be updates both before and after its main release, if you're opted into the testing branch

[bitter crow]

does it take equal amounts of power if i hypercharge buildings, compared to just building two? like does one 200% constructor take as much as two constructors?

[tall lantern]

takes more

more buildings at lower clocks consume less power than fewer buildings at higher clocks

so the tradeoff there is space (and building time) vs power consumption

[bitter crow]

what is the rate? is it an insignificant power increase or is it relevant?

[stoic nebula]

where?

[tall lantern]

it'll be on the wiki somewhere. Offhand I think it's something like 25% more at max?

!wikisearch overclocking

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=overclocking

[bitter crow]

i reckon ill js build a double factory then

thanks for the help

[fickle locust]

It's less than it used to be, which has made it a much more attractive tradeoff. Once you start being able to realistically overclock everything you're working with 100,000 MW so the difference between two foundries at 40 or one foundry at 45 is negligible

[bitter crow]

i see, thanks

[fickle locust]

In the early game when power is much more limited base clock or even underclocking is a lot more attractive

[bitter crow]

👍

[trim sage]

twitch

[stoic nebula]

user?

[trim sage]

linked to my account

[primal obsidian]

argh

my fundamental supply chain issues and broken train system means my nuclear plant only has like 34/48 reactors working at any given moment

[mystic oriole]

I loved the screenshot @stoic nebula

[primal obsidian]

and thats even worse since i have 24 plutonium reactors relying on the uranium ones and 12 ficsonium ones relying on the plutonium reactors

[stoic nebula]

which one..

[mystic oriole]

1100 hrs one

[stoic nebula]

ah...

[mystic oriole]

I think it's funny because that's what I thought when I hit 1000 hrs.

[stoic nebula]

LOL

[reef basin]

they have always been spaced pretty far apart

[fickle locust]

This is your sign to finally fix the trains

[primal obsidian]

no its my sign to stop playing and give up

[fickle locust]

The trains want to run free

[primal obsidian]

the trains want to wait in endless lines of waiting for eachother to move

[fickle locust]

My trains used to do that, then I made some of them free range and now they're much happier

[digital hinge]

How do i stop playing this game

[stone quiver]

Any good suggestions to prolong the end game? Beat phase 4 and phase 5 is literally just a few containers full of phase 4 mats and manufacturer/quantum's away from being finished .

My friend and I are trying to make it so we have to automate every phase 5 part before submittal otherwise it's too trivial to finish, but trying to think of what to do besides maybe trying to utilize all transportation of materials methods etc.

[fluid crow]

building a big nuclear plant seems like more than project assembly

Could also make a large automation of one of the phase 5 parts for tickets

[tall lantern]

the only overarching goals the game really give you are to beat phase 5 and to get enough coupons to nut
beyond that, it's very much a sandbox

building factories for the P5 stuff is a decent option, as is trying out the later methods of power production

could also aim for maximum screws

[raw bison]

ive finaly made it to phase 2

should i

make a factory floor finally

[tall lantern]

if you like

[tepid root]

I’m 104 turbo motors away from phase 5

Its the longest 104 turbo motors ever lol

[stone quiver]

Yeah I know it's a sandbox, we are doing pasta mega factory, all phase 5 automated before any submittal, nuclear, learning all transportation methods (though droning materials feels OP) . Just wondering if maybe there's some sneaky things people found as good challenges or creative outlets

Like a factory cart skate park or rollercoaster

[tall lantern]

skate park's a common diversion

those halfpipe pieces come in handy

[stone quiver]

I think I'll make a race course. Can be like F1. Different courses in different biomes

[tall lantern]

could also just do a decoration pass on your factories

[glacial drum]

My arms factory is finally fully complete..

Ammo and bombs.. just not pulse or gas ones.

[stone quiver]

Yeah I uhh lived in the swamp since we started desert and it was the closest aluminum. The only decoration it's getting is deleting some old conveyers lol. I'm so tired of working in dark fog

[brave stratus]

this servers got bots

[glacial drum]

We’re all bots

[brave stratus]

gasp

[fickle locust]

F1 course among the Titan Forest sounds like fun

[tepid root]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-robo-bot-boogie-breakdance-gif-1775654416813269104

[brave stratus]

2 people from this server have sent me fr for no reason

[tall lantern]

my last goals were

• make a factory for the P5 stuff, using drones more than I normally would
• Plutonium power (Ficsonium didn't seem worth it)
• Basic travel network via P5 tech (||portals||)
• Build a lil base at (0, 0, 0) with an augmented APA and said travel network hub

[brave stratus]

who tf is filipo

[bitter crow]

hey, is modular frames something that is going to be worth 1/3 of my iron supply

[fluid crow]

probably someone who got their account hacked

[stone quiver]

Yeah I'm looking forward to having the p5 travel tech running.

[tall lantern]

there's like 90k iron on the map, it'll be fine

[bitter crow]

just thinking regarding early game

[stone quiver]

Frames are useful nearly everywhere, elevator parts, advancement through tiers etc

[tall lantern]

you generally want to automate anything* that's used by the build gun

[bitter crow]

im making a factory that makes like 8 a minute but idk if its that essential

[fickle locust]

If your iron supply means some of the nodes you have, then yes they're worth that. If it means you're planning to take 1/3 of the world's iron then no

[fickle locust]

8 a minutes is definitely worth your while

[stone quiver]

You can always splitter off the precursors into containers

So you have everything available

[bitter crow]

ill keep building the factory then, worst case scenario ill have to transport iron from further away

[hidden python]

anyone wanna hop on?

[fluid crow]

as you progress you get better belts and miners

[bitter crow]

oh yeah, forgot that factor

[south sinew]

but in general you will need to transport resources from further and further away as you progress

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[tepid root]

You can also just fill container, horde items and then put any excess to the sink.

Long haul belts will be your friend… until they aren’t. 🙃

[glacial drum]

Set up blueprints for something to sit conveyers on and it’ll look much better too

[bitter crow]

im trying to avoid them as much as possible, i have ptsd from my last playthru

[stone quiver]

I don't think they ever arent. Though I suppose some people do make mines and truck stops and huge networks as opposed to snaking a conveyer 500m-1km over the rivers and through the hills

[glacial drum]

Anything over 800 meters horizontally I debate heavily on belting

[stone quiver]

Setting up a massive infrastructure network for raw materials is an entire game in itself

[bitter crow]

#screenshots

[glacial drum]

432 batteries is surely not enough

Time to double it vertically

[tall lantern]

per minute?

[fickle locust]

I will put something on a train to go like 200 meters

[glacial drum]

Power storages * not batteries

[fickle locust]

I do not like belts

Belts are the necessary evil required to get products to the trains

[bitter crow]

i look forward to trains, seem fun

[stone quiver]

Wait you're not in like super end game with that setup Ace

[bitter crow]

stage 2

i was in hell

[glacial drum]

dude i’m 200+ hours in barely in phase 5

[tall lantern]

why so many belts, make the stuff where the resources are

[glacial drum]

Not always the best choice

[stone quiver]

Bro... that's 15 conveyers. That's more supply lines than my phase 5 part is taking

[bitter crow]

i tried making a megafactory

this screenshot is from a year ago

[tall lantern]

my condolences

[stone quiver]

Mega factory before phase 5. A dream has to start somewhere

[tall lantern]

megafactory at any tier

[bitter crow]

it was not very well planned and i have stopped playing on that save

[bitter crow]

megafactories is a hell invented by pharmacies to sell more antidepressants

[glacial drum]

I bavent looked at the pioneers model in so long why do i feel so tiny seeing it

[stone quiver]

I don't know wha constitutes a true megafactory

Like what's the cutoff

[reef basin]

if you have all production in one place

[stone quiver]

Even using 1200+ of some materials can be exhausting amount of buildings

[reef basin]

it's not about size, it's about gameplay style

[bitter crow]

5460 items with mk3 conveyor belts

[reef basin]

"megafactory" is gameplay style where you build everything in one place 🙂

[stone quiver]

Oh people bring everything to one spot? I thought it was more... I'm building 30 pasta/min in my desert stronghold

[tall lantern]

I'm not quite that purist, but generally one facility that's doing far too many different things

[reef basin]

well megafactories are not recommended

[bitter crow]

they have their pros, but they require tons of planning to pull off

[reef basin]

there's very few pros and too many cons. Obviously feel free to make them if you want, but I would never recommended them to anyone

[bitter crow]

i hate them

[stone quiver]

Oh ok I never did that. I did semi-auto a bunch of stuff which kind of trivialized major logistics

[unkempt blade]

pro: they sound fun in theory

[bitter crow]

folks, i have decided on 4 modular frames per minute

[bitter crow]

and look cool if you do it right

[unkempt blade]

pro: factory carts in an unusually high density

[glacial drum]

I think the only factory cart i’ve used i drove into the abyss and its marker sits on my map haunting me

[unkempt blade]

it's just sitting there reminding you to use more factory carts which is quite the noble sacrifice for it to have made

[stone quiver]

I fell into the abyss but bounced off a rock before falling in. I have two death crates 300m below the death fog barrier. I have yet to try to retrieve them

[glacial drum]

2 suggests you’ve tried once already

[dense violet]

reload save

[glacial drum]

[unkempt blade]

winners never quit and quitters never win!

[stone quiver]

Fell over the same spot twice when hover ran out of range

[glacial drum]

In remaking my advanced iron parts factory I’ve sunk all my old modular frames to remove them from the old fsctory

Now I only use one storage container instead of 5

So I can only make 1 battery blueprint every so often

LAME!

[glacial drum]

A likely story..

[stone quiver]

Can I outheal the fog dot?

[glacial drum]

Only till you get so far into it

then it insta kills

[stone quiver]

Sooo then another corpse crate I can't get off my radar

[unkempt blade]

if you put your save in SCIM you should be able to get them out of the hole

[stone quiver]

Console

[dense violet]

reload your save

[stone quiver]

Bro, this is like seven days ago. We already have a holiday game for it to commemorate the loss of life.

[dense violet]

RIP

always have lots of saves. Both manual and auto

[stone quiver]

It would be just as easy if it wasn't a forced marker on the map though or maybe I'm missing how I can turn it off

[unkempt blade]

I'm playing on hardcore. Only one save and I delete it if I die

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure you can turn off crates on the map

[unkempt blade]

Why you downthumbing me? I did it on BG3 and now I'm doing it here 😆

similar save lengths, totally equivalent

[dense violet]

yeah I wasn't a fan on that on BG3 either 😛

[stone quiver]

If you wanna play hard-core mode, no dismantling aloud

Allowed

[unkempt blade]

just have to pull the trigger early enough on your jetpack and/or misty step spell if you think you might be in trouble

[dense violet]

😛

[reef basin]

that's like the default way to play imo

never dismantle, just build new

[stone quiver]

No, no no you misplaced a conveyor you mess up a splitter or emerge or you don't feel enough power cables to start it all has to stay

[native tapir]

....wut

[stone quiver]

There are no take backs

[reef basin]

there's never a need to rebuild anything, if you need more, build more, but don't touch existing factories

[unkempt blade]

yeah ok, you convinced me

[native tapir]

A e s t h e t i c s

[reef basin]

you can build aesthetic things the first time around

[native tapir]

Pics or it didn't happen Greeny

[bitter crow]

is it wasting to underclock a miner? i have 31.2 iron ore that isnt used a minute

[reef basin]

no, you're not wasting anything

[bitter crow]

thanks, apologies for all the questions

[fluid crow]

it's saving power but wasting time when you need more

[unkempt blade]

your save is literally ruined!

but you can always clock it up later

[bitter crow]

lmao

yeah fair

ill make a note for when i need it

[feral jay]

I've got a bunch of miners underclockd because I'm doing this "no machine can ever idle" challenge actually

Not being able underclock individual resource well extractors is a bit problematic

[native tapir]

Greeny been real quiet suddenly when I ask to see his aesthetic builds....

His first try aesthetic builds

[unkempt blade]

yeah but do you like my fishies? #screenshots message

[feral jay]

heh, cute, but trains going at Mach 2 are cooler, sorry

[unkempt blade]

trains are pretty cool, you're right about that

[native tapir]

Oh yeah I forgot

I went mach 2.5 in a train without mods

Through the power of friendship mainly. But also some pretty devious bugs

[feral jay]

Lies. Much closer to mach 2.0

[native tapir]

Or as i call them, advanced build techniques

[reef basin]

I like my builds, they are very aesthetic

[feral jay]

Either way, very cool

[native tapir]

2550

[reef basin]

since aestheticality is subjective 🤷

[native tapir]

@reef basin can I see

[reef basin]

I do not have my U1 save anymore

[feral jay]

Yep and mach 1 is 1,234.8km/h at standard sea level and pressure and I assume that holds true for Massage

[native tapir]

Why would you assume that?

[feral jay]

Well because we have nothing else to base it on

[native tapir]

Nah jk I actually didn't know that about mach bc math is for busters

I thought it was a round 1k

[feral jay]

It is at 30,000 feet, which is what most people associate it with from flying passenger

You didn't hit that speed until much closer to the ground

[native tapir]

Alright alright relax. This is starting to feel and sound like math

[feral jay]

LOL sorry, the game does attract math nerds, and it doesn't help that I'm a pilot

[native tapir]

Also It was an infinite teleport loop so I hit that speed at every altitude on the track

I just don't know triggernology

[feral jay]

Still, that was an awesome video to watch, thanks

[bitter crow]

how in HELL do i make 1/5 with splitters?! its 00:30 and i cant think straight

[native tapir]

Haha jokes aside thanks dude

[reef basin]

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

[native tapir]

And yes I admit there was some math involved. Unfortunately

[bitter crow]

oh my god i am tired

[ornate saffron]

manifolds for win

[bitter crow]

is this a sign to sleep

[ornate saffron]

stretch, drink water, that stuff is important

[bitter crow]

ill drink sum water

anything to continue the grind

[fluid crow]

puppies and/or kittens need you

[severe pewter]

Fluid is always a tough one to deal with. If you want to make the flow rate more reliable, push it up to a point above the rest of the system, by at least 4 meters, and then you can drop it back down from there.

Some mentioned that buffers are bad, so if you don't want a buffer, do your thing. I use them at this highest point to monitor whether fluid is stable. Plus it adds a tiny bit extra to the head pressure on the back side when full.

Another suggestion I have, is that at the last section of piping connected to each input, make that a ~4m vertical drop directly into the input. Whether you use a manifold, or split everything evenly, that drop section helps pull fluid from the pipes to feed the input.

But then check each section of piping if it's still not working, sometimes things act up. The biggest consideration when building any fluid system, is that the fluid sloshes. A single (deletable) section of pipe contains its own calculations, and when it sloshes, it sends that math to the next segment and so forth. I'm not entirely sure how the math is calculated at splits, but there is a difference between sending fluid straight vs at a right angle. Fluid does not math well with curved slopes, so I suggest avoiding those (ie just curves or just slopes). Pumps and check valves separate the sloshing dynamics between their inputs and outputs, creating two different sloshing systems.

Lastly, if you ever build a manifold, and the fluid is backing up at the output, another thing that helps a bit with that is to raise the output vertically by 4~6m and have the first section of pipe to end facing directly downward. It should look like a candy cane. From there, the next section drops directly to the manifold. This discourages the sloshing from pushing its way into the outputs, and the candy cane outputs add a bit of their own pressure to help drop their own fluids into the manifold.

(If you ever make super long manifolds, check valves are required, but usually just one, at somewhere around 2/3 of the way to the end, to help break up the resonance from the sloshing effect. The longer the manifolds get, the greater the slosh)

[reef basin]

Instead of valve, do a loop

[dense violet]

yeah avoid valves and buffers
buffers either do nothing or cause flow issues.

you can check if a system is stable by flooding it and making sure it's not dropping

[severe pewter]

Haven't tried that yet. But i was just considering trying to split a pipe by adding a pump, deleting the top, removing the pump, adding the pipe section back, then placing the pump just below the split, to see if that 0.1m section of pipe might help with some of the issues pumps give me. It could also make it worse.

[severe pewter]

Or just leave it dry and see if it fills on its own

[dense violet]

pre flooding helps avoid general sloshing - a slightly unstable systesm might just never properly fill because back flow stuttering production

in a flooded system there's much less back flow and your consuming machines should always have basically full internal buffers

[severe pewter]

Fair

[dense violet]

if a fully flooded system starts starving you know there's a flow or math error immediately

and that it's definitely not a buffer causing the flow issue

[severe pewter]

But I've never seen a full system not slosh, it's just harder to see

[dense violet]

if there's a slosh that affects the system , it'll eventually stutter the producers and reduce the production, meaning the internal buffers will start dropping

for example, a loop in a manifold doesn't stop back flow, it jsut works around it

[severe pewter]

It breaks the resonance

[dense violet]

I mean it gives the fluid a different path to go around that is generally a good path because the back flow oppened up the space from the othe way

Maybe you could describe it as that? Morning brain. Not dedicating spoons to break it down 😛

[severe pewter]

If I visualize the slosh, it's a very slow wave, and with more inputs and outputs, it becomes easier to amplify. But yeah, that would send that into a spiral and also split it up

[dense violet]

not an unreasonable way to describe it.

[severe pewter]

I'd been using check valves to do almost the same thing, but it is considerably more crude

[dense violet]

valves have hidden mechanics - for example they'll only let a % of flow through depending on how full pipes are

so if you have one set to 600 and both sides of the pipe are completely full it'll be fine. But it also doesn't do anything

back flow can knock fluid backwards through a valve

[severe pewter]

That explains a bit. So keep them at low points.

[dense violet]

don't keep them at all

they'll either do nothing with full pipes, or cause flow issues by only letting PART of the flow through

they don't even stop back flow

now, if you have a slightly wobbly manifold, I've found a powered pump directly before it can help directionality a bit, but it's definitely not a cure all

mostly they've helped with bottom feeding set ups, which I don't recommend in general as they are just finicky

[severe pewter]

I will point out at least, putting the check valve at about the 1/3 point in a manifold using the entire pipe, the pipe would just need to stay above 1/3 full to function properly. But yeah, it is finicky, and you have to find the sweet spot. The loop is much more elegant, but takes up a lot more space.

[dense violet]

This is the point of talking about consistently reliable pipe set ups

you can make just about anything work.
It might take you days

I don't recommend those ways

[ripe stump]

How do I get the to do list to show. I removed some items from it with the - and now it won't display?

[severe pewter]

The + items go on the todo list

[dense violet]

If you want to make scrambled eggs you can just throw eggs at a hot wall until you get something acceptable.

That's not how I would instruct people to make scrambled eggs though

[bitter crow]

what can i improve regarding my factory? #screenshots

[dense violet]

seems fine?
what don't you like about it?
(also #design-and-architecture you can post and talk about the images)

[bitter crow]

feels rather space inefficent

[severe pewter]

"...Stop on your right foot, don't forget it!"

-except on instructions for bubble blowing

[stone quiver]

99% of pipe setups work just saturate your inputs before turning on. If balanced, no problems

Otherwise enjoy watching it reach steady state

[ripe stump]

when I click on "add to display" it does not display

[dense violet]

a lot of peopel treat pipes like belts - issues happen pretty often

[severe pewter]

Space is good. I built my screw factory as compact as possible, and while it looks great from the outside, editing & diagnosing are a nightmare.

[severe pewter]

Can I treat gas like a belt?

[bitter crow]

thank you for the advice!

[glacial drum]

No however gases do not require headlift.

[dense violet]

gas flow is also murdered by buffers

way worse than liquids

[ornate saffron]

ew screw factory

[rain hollow]

Is this a big enoughheavy modular frame set up? #screenshots message

[dense violet]

does it make enough hmf for you? if yes, yes. If no, no.

[stone quiver]

Seems ok sized if you need more, scale or wait

The process flow on this is wild

[fickle locust]

It's fine for your building needs but it won't be enough to support a further production chain

[storm crow]

guys how much nuclear power plant is good

[dense violet]

depends on what projects yo uwant to do

with the base uranium recipes and uranium rods you can do 260gw pretty easily

[storm crow]

im making fueled frame

[fluid crow]

is like asking on discord what size pants you should buy

[storm crow]

i was looking at abt 30

[dense violet]

I mean more what you're doign over your whole map - since ... you know power feeds everything

[storm crow]

im tyring to automate ps 4

[dense violet]

well you can finish phase 5 pretty easily on 30gw

but 30 fused frames pm is a fair bit

[storm crow]

how much nucelar then

[dense violet]

260gw I guess? Might as well go big

Nuclear, imo, is one of those things you want to do once per map

[storm crow]

okk

[rain hollow]

It makes 5 per minute. Or it should at least when I get all the miners I'll need setup

[dense violet]

apparently 30 fused frames pm will run about 10gw https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=rpGIbHRg2NGPAa3owgsc

according to this

[fickle locust]

I'm doing 25 FMF per minute and will need about 200 gw for my entire save when done

[fluid crow]

since you don't have plutonium yet would be a lot of uranium cells

[fickle locust]

Like I said, fine for building needs, but Heavy Modular Frames get used in a lot of production chains. So this is a good setup for now and you'll likely make one more factory for it down the line

[dense violet]

and the reason I suggest 260gw is because you can use BASE uranium recipes and get that much - the alt recipes are more uranium more efficient but requires a fair bit more resources

[rain hollow]

Hopefully the next one I need to make for something else will be easier

[storm crow]

okay should be useful for phase 4 of project assembly

[rain hollow]

Doubt it though

[dense violet]

260gw will be more than most people will ever really need.

unless you're planning truly huge projects after phase 5

[fickle locust]

Yeah you get the full combination of alts, the faster belts, etc.
It becomes much easier to manage a big HMF factory
I threw together a 40/min one in a few hours once I was in the endgame, whereas I'd spent a day to get 4/min when I was in the phase you're in currently

[rain hollow]

The one I made wasn't crazy hard. Just a lot of math and a few hours (not including the fact I spread the time out through I think two days)

Use somersloops and theoretically it should make 10 per minute

[dense violet]

there's a few alt recipes that reduce the iron consumption by 75% and coal/limestone by half compared to the base recipes

[rain hollow]

Oh this whole thing is just iron, copper, and limestone

[dense violet]

oh sure. Just letting you know 🙂 saving resources and space and work is often good

[rain hollow]

Yeah but when will that ever happen in a game like satisfactory?

[dense violet]

all the time? it's not many recipes to gather

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=nmVZJSILKn6u2ZWX7x9m

[rain hollow]

I've never been organized in almost anything

So probably will not happen

[dense violet]

you learn 🙂 check out that plan

it's a good tool in general

[rich torrent]

Is it worth it to overclock generators?

[fluid crow]

if you have plenty of power shards otherwise you could build more and then be able to step it up oc later

[fickle locust]

Overclocking generators is only useful to save on space and make numbers easier, which is IMO not a good use of a limited resource (slugs) but a great use of an unlimited resource (once you unlock synthetic shards)

[dense violet]

if you're at coal? generally not. You don't have many shards and all it does is save you space

[hybrid nymph]

Overclocking a coal powered generator is not worth it

All it does is save you space, when it would honestly be cheaper just to build more generators

Overclocking a fuel generator is worth it, generally, coal is not

[dense violet]

if you have a ton of spare shards.

still only saves you space

[rich torrent]

I have doubled every slug I have ever found and have 1000 shards

[dense violet]

you do you

[fickle locust]

If you've got that many then go for it

[amber scroll]

Is making a 1,500MW power station too overkill for space elevator lev 2?

Or not enough?

[dense violet]

WOW ok so just briefly general chat - apparently discord will want your face scan or ID for full access next month

They've had plenty of data breaches already too

[fickle locust]

I think that's a pretty reasonable amount

[amber scroll]

Ima rid this spaghetti finally, and make this better automated :3333

[granite basalt]

happened to me with facebook
I wear my full face helmet, only show my eyes
they just asking you to move your head left right up down
then mine was good to to
at that rate if they could replicate my face then I could say they have the right

[dense violet]

definitely wouldn't be giving them that on FB as well.
Discord had a breach that lost tons of gov ids to extortionists

[zenith pecan]

I've done a few id checks by pointing my camera at my star wars the old republic character screen. apparently my pureblood sith is valid for a face scan 🤣

[keen lion]

if i die in this area with llike green gas that resembles radioactive toxic gas how do i get my loot back again?

[dense violet]

if you grab your loot, sure

[drowsy kelp]

Run fast

Or get a gas mask

[zenith pecan]

Or bring bombs.

[keen lion]

kinda cheated by going back to a previous safe tbh but im not reaching the gas mask any time soon

[keen lion]

why didn't i think of that?

i escaped certain doom by removing my stair using the atom destroyer 9000 given to me by the company and survived getting chased by like 4 mobs

[stone quiver]

Overclock anything there's nothing permanent

[lost rapids]

Good morning :)

[indigo kiln]

I may have a turbo fuel plant already but I finally remembered to not immediately eat the mushrooms I find so I can get a inhaler

[fickle locust]

I solve this by not picking the mushrooms

My "got to save the consumables" brain will only let me use beryl nuts because they grow back

[narrow canyon]

Why would that be cheating? O0

[tranquil zinc]

do dimensional depot stack? Like If I have 2 depots for concrete, will I be getting 2x the speed of upload?

[tidal dock]

Is there a way to do the auto gather on PC like the PS5?

[hybrid nymph]

The planet the game takes place on is likely a habitable moon about the size of Mars

Considering how high you can jump

[fickle locust]

Yes

[hybrid nymph]

Also the planet is called Massage 2 A-B (B)

The astronomical name means it orbita the star Massage 2, The B represents the first planet in the star system, and the B means it orbita Massage 2B ⭐

Meaning it's a moon 🌙

[pulsar osprey]

im hoping im wrong here, but i just set up a factory to make 4580 m^3 rocket fuel per minute, and according to the calculations i did ill need 1100 fuel generators to use all of it? please someone tell me if i got my math wrong, as each fuel generator says itll take about 4.17 m^3 per minute

[zenith pecan]

Why not overclock the generators to 240%, then you'd need 458 generators.

[pulsar osprey]

bc im only in tier 4 and i dont have unlimited power shards

i have like 400 extra rn

i mean im on phase 4 of the space elevator

[zenith pecan]

To be fair, I didn't have unlimited shards, I did use a constructor, a somersloop and a ton of map exploration to dig up the slugs.

But do you know what 1100 generators even looks like on the map and how long it'd take to lay down & plumb in?

[pulsar osprey]

thats a good point but i would like to use them elsewhere, though i guess i dont need anywhere near the full power of it yet so i can start setting it up slowly

i mean yeah thatd be insane i slightly underestimated the efficiency of rocket fuel

[zenith pecan]

Here's an old facility, it was turbofuel and had 888 generators, not 1100, just take in how big it really is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rLV_YcVt8s

[pulsar osprey]

yeah thats way more than i was expecting

i thought the size would be somewhat comparable to the size of the facility it took to make the rocket fuel but it would appear i was mistaken

i suppose i can just set up a hundred or two for the moment

probably can do that fairly easily

[zenith pecan]

Big time, the generators take up a lot of room, rocket fuel though being a gas doesn't care about lift, so you can build upwards instead of outwards, I have a rocket fuel facility as my main power source atm, it pushes a sickening amount of electricity and I probably won't need to build more, ever.

[pulsar osprey]

oh i didnt realize it was a gas thats nice

[zenith pecan]

If you commit to building 1100 generators, I suggest a lot of coffee and free time, you can build amazing if you have the patience for it, all I ask is you consider what you're doing before going head long into it.

[pulsar osprey]

was very happy when moving the nitrogen for it, id never had to use it before

well sadly i am about to start school again so i wont have quite as much but i dont mind it taking a long time

[magic cedar]

i just started this game and im having a hard time optimizing things 💔

[pulsar osprey]

didnt exactly start this game with the intention of finishing quickly

[zenith pecan]

You can see from my 3y old youtube clip just how large your project will end up 🙂

[pulsar osprey]

it shall be beautiful

i do need to work on decoration though its not awful but it could look a lot better

[magic cedar]

my shi is so ugly

[zenith pecan]

Here's what I mean by build in towers #design-and-architecture message , this is my rocket fuel power station, and each tower is about half a mile tall (literally. not figuratively)

[feral jay]

LOL this is not a game you finish quickly

[pulsar osprey]

wow that is really cool

i have been putting more effort into making things look good but i also fall into the trap of just trying to automate before that

[zenith pecan]

I used similar architecture on my basics facility that I built in the spire coast today #design-and-architecture message

[pulsar osprey]

woah

i do theoretically intend for things to look nice eventually but for now ill just focus on my stupid amount of rocket fuel

i still havent automated like motors ive rushed a bit so i need the extra power to make large factories for each component; thats why i set up the rocket fuel in the first place

[zenith pecan]

I have towers showing up all over the map and processing facilities that are meant to consume whole biomes.

[pulsar osprey]

how many hours do you have in your save?

[zenith pecan]

This place is part of my consume the entire spire coast setup, it processes all of the oil in the spire coast into plastic & rubber #design-and-architecture message

About 954 hours in my current save.

[pulsar osprey]

damn yeah thats a lot

[hidden pebble]

Guys if i connect two sulphur nodes to my train network, 1 normal and 1 impure, how can i calculate how many wagons i need?

[zenith pecan]

The refinery platforms do seem to extend off into the horizon 🤣

[white dawn]

There's an equation for train throughput on the wiki which is reliant on the stack size of the item and the round-trip time for the train. IMO it's rarely worth calculating though since you'll never know your round-trip time until you've set up the route

What I nearly always do is just set up the route using whatever number of cars feels right and then seeing how that goes

[hidden pebble]

That's exactly the thing. I saw the formula but I didn't know the round trip time.

[white dawn]

If it's sufficient: great! If not: time to add another station+car

[feral jay]

The station will tell you what your current throughput is, and just add wagons until it's more than or equal to what you need. It's quite difficult to actually calculate

[green gale]

ooh i got turbo motors now

[white dawn]

Admittedly such a workflow would require willingness to build in a way which permits a bit of expansion before finalization

[green gale]

finally

[hidden pebble]

Wouldn't adding an engine and more wagons be simpler?

[white dawn]

Adding another wagon is what I meant by "station+car". :D

[magic cedar]

ive almost finished tier two 😄

[white dawn]

(and yeah, adding another car could mean that you may need another locomotive, too, though of course that would depend)

[zenith pecan]

Don't build too many cars without another loco, I've done it, turns out 400 railcars can be moved at 13km/h with just the one loco and up a gentle slope.

[hybrid nymph]

Hello people

How is everyone tonight?

I just finished some aesthetics on my factory

It's still a work in progress but it's coming along

I will post a screenshot later when I hop on

[magic cedar]

woah phase 2 takes a lot wtf

[ornate saffron]

.... ... you need 4300 Smart plating to beat the game. at 2/min youll have lots over 80 hours

[magic cedar]

holy shit

but im sure by then youll be able to run multiple assemblers right?

[fluid crow]

just a coupe 😼

[old bramble]

I’m so annoyed right now. I’m trying to find another spot to produce steel and it’s not going well at all right now.

[ornate saffron]

where did you start?>

[old bramble]

The Crater Lake I made steel there easy. But other products that need Steel Beams/Pipes are a headache to make there.

Example the Automated Miner.

Like the only iron node is on the opposite side of the lake.

[unborn nova]

could someone chest out #1038092680493801533 rq? need soem help

[old bramble]

Needless to say I’m frustrated and venting because another spot that I thought would be good ended up having spore mounds so I need to make more dynamite to clear the way.

[ornate saffron]

th8inkk your next closet is the grasslands

[old bramble]

I may just have to repurpose a factory and change it to make steel and move the other factory else where

I have like five different things I need to automate from a steel base recipe and it’s just all the other resources aren’t easy to get to where I’m already making the steel beams/pipes.

[white dawn]

Sounds like it's time to find some extra locations to build those materials, then. :)

It's a big map! Lotsa coal out there

[old bramble]

Yeah I’m trying to make it work.

It’s not necessarily making the stuff that gets me.

It’s just the logistics of steel that makes me just so frustrated.

[feral jay]

Have a quick gander at warp drives

[white dawn]

My advice is to always just make fresh steel from scratch wherever it's needed. Make a bit for your own personal use and have that going to your storage. Then whenever something else needs more steel, find a good spot and make more fresh

Then the required "logistics" is typically just getting coal+iron to the same spot

[old bramble]

Yeah which is my problem

[white dawn]

(It may also be worth going hard drive hunting out the wild. There are "alternative recipes" for practically everything in the game, including some which (for instance) let you produce a lot of steel stuff using nothing but iron. It's very iron-inefficient, but it can simplify some things)

[old bramble]

I don’t have trains yet so I can’t move them in bulk.

[feral jay]

I think you're thinking too far ahead

[white dawn]

You've got tractors. :)

Tractors are great for Phase 2 logistics

[old bramble]

Trucks

[white dawn]

You unlock Trucks at nearly the same time you unlock trains; IMO Trucks are in a kind of odd spot progressionwise

Tractors get unlocked nice and early, though

(IMO they're easier to work with than Trucks, too, though I admit part of that might just be experience -- I've used tractors a lot more often than trucks, so my truck experience may not be up to snuff. :)

[old bramble]

Yeah I may just have to tractor/truck coal rn. Might be my only option.

[white dawn]

The other option is: don't move the raw material

Just site the factory somewhere that there is coal+iron right next to each other

As I say, it's a huge map

On my own playthroughs I rarely transfer raw materials until pretty late in the game, when it becomes hard-to-impossible to find a site which has all the required resources for late-game components

And even then I'm much more likely to split up the factory into sub-factories and have smaller isolated bits which are sited conveniently near the nodes they need (and only use logistics to transfer the intermediate components)

[vestal hill]

||northwest coast|| <— this area has what you’re looking for and is where I personally built my steel factory

[old bramble]

I’ll look into the northwest coast

[white dawn]

It helps, of course, if you get into an expansion mindset. Once you've broken free of the shackles of "main base" IMO the game really opens up

[vestal hill]

It really does

[white dawn]

(Which isn't to say you can't have a good time centralizing your production, too. I just tend to recommend against it. :)

[vestal hill]

It really depends

[old bramble]

I mean I have depots so like. I can just deconstruct my HUB and place it down as needed.

[vestal hill]

I personally like having a central storage system (mall) where I’ve got my sinks & depots and then drawing stuff from my factories in bulk, and then the central storage in small amounts

[white dawn]

Migrating HUBs can be convenient, yeah. :)

Anyway, AFK I go. Enjoy!

[feral jay]

I always have a "base", but it's really just the hub, MAM, sink, shop, blueprinter, and a boatload of storage containers. (And my FICSMAS tree)

And even then, everything but the hub can be reloacted so I often have secondary "bases"

Well I suppose that's where the elevator is too, but again, that can also be moved

[old bramble]

Not looking forward to the 2,500 Versatile Frames

[vestal hill]

Just set up like four assemblers

You’ll be in phase three for a very long time

[old bramble]

I have ten

[vestal hill]

All active?

[old bramble]

I need to build up my steel beams to stock them yeah

[hybrid nymph]

It's not that bad

just put them to craft in 3 assemblers all somerslooped and work on your other milestones and exploring, and then when you come back it'll be done

fully overclocked don't forget

[old bramble]

I need to stock 15,000 steel beams.

[hybrid nymph]

you can generate 72 frameworks with my suggestion per minute

[old bramble]

I believe Sloops also increase output without added material cost but at an exponential increase in power

[hybrid nymph]

yes setup like 8 foundries fully overclocked, it's going to take awhile, probably about 2 hours to craft all of those steel beams even with 8 foundries

it can be done, i have done it/!

you got this!

[vestal hill]

Don’t even need sloopage

[old bramble]

My issue isn’t necessarily the actual factory part it’s the Where part

[hybrid nymph]

in the grasslands on top of that huge hill

[vestal hill]

Yeah mine were done before I even started plastic/rubber

[old bramble]

Northwest Coast I’ll check out. I just need to find said spot

[hybrid nymph]

there is a pure coal source on top of the hill and 4 normal iron nodes closeby

[vestal hill]

It’s where there’s like four coal nodes in a cave/around the cave

[hybrid nymph]

that works too

[vestal hill]

Then there’s a bunch of iron relatively close

[hybrid nymph]

correct

[old bramble]

I know that one!!!

I used that in my last save for black powder before I started over. I didn’t think about that one.

[hybrid nymph]

each fully overclocked foundry produces 112 steel ingots per minute

what mk belts have you got?

[old bramble]

3

[hybrid nymph]

oof that's a 270 item limit

[old bramble]

Working on automating encased for the MK4

[hybrid nymph]

you can run 2 foundries

[vestal hill]

Could just use 2 belts no?

[hybrid nymph]

no there is only 1 coal source

[vestal hill]

Ahhh okay

[old bramble]

Yeah once I get the encased stuff automated I’ll be able to research MK4 belts

[hybrid nymph]

with mk4 belts you can have 4 foundries

[vestal hill]

Maybe set up infrastructure for the mk4 and replace the belt when it’s time

[old bramble]

I just want to get the materials for the belt automated first so that I have it depoted.

My main annoyance is now deconstructing puts the items in my inventory and just clogs it up now 😂

[hybrid nymph]

sorry brother your steel beam production will be slow unless you unlock the moulded beam recipe

even with that pure source and mk4 belts, you're cappd at 150 steel beams per minute

it's going to take an hour and a half to craft all of your beams

even at max speed

[ripe stump]

I figured it out from a youtuber. I just needed to move my cursor to the right side of the screen and the list displays.⚓

[old bramble]

What’s the Assembler craft per minute on the automated miners at base?

[native tapir]

Guess I do not understand this community.

I was going for shock and awe but instead I get laughter.

#math-and-meta message

[hybrid nymph]

if you have a miner MK2 all of the iron nodes arenormal, so you can extract 300 per minute if they're fully overclcoked, there are 4 nodes

the assembler craft rate per minute for steel beams is 37 per minute

for steel beams fully overclocked

[old bramble]

I mean how many automated miners can an Assembler make per minute

[hybrid nymph]

unless you get the alt recipe

[old bramble]

I do

[hybrid nymph]

ahh the one that uses the steel ingot and concrete?

[fickle locust]

1/min

[old bramble]

Thank you

[old bramble]

No the Automated Miner recipe

Four Steel Pipes and Four Plates. I was asking how many the Assembler can make a minute at base 100%

[hybrid nymph]

ahh that yes it's 1 per minute

[old bramble]

Another thing to depot

[languid vine]

helloooo

i just got this game without knowing anything about it, is it good?

[quasi warren]

I finally set up nuclear. Boy that was a PROCESS.

But it gives me over 100gw of power

[languid vine]

nuclear...?

DAMN

[quasi warren]

So im happy with it. Just need to do plutonium now to deal with the waste

That'll be fun...

[quasi warren]

Yea. Late game power source

Completely optional

[languid vine]

i legit just got this game and you alr have me piqued

[quasi warren]

There are drones, trains, trucks, tractors

[languid vine]

ik nothing ab this game i just seen it on steam and it looked interesting

[feral jay]

You haven't seen the production chain for it yet, nor the chain to process the waste

[quasi warren]

Fuel gens, coal gens, nobilisks

[languid vine]

oh boy lol

[quasi warren]

There is a ton for you to sink your teeth into

[languid vine]

sweeeeet

[quasi warren]

Its a pain TwT

I can configure my setup to do roughly 64 nuclear generators? Im only doing 16 right now

I just need to tap more uranium

[languid vine]

danggggg

[quasi warren]

I wana add you so badly TwT

[languid vine]

me starting off with probably solar panels lmao

[hybrid nymph]

well you're in luck @languid vine I know most of the stuff about this game

[quasi warren]

Nope

No renewable power. Unless you do modded

[hybrid nymph]

isn't solar from refined power at tier 4?

[quasi warren]

You start out with biomass burners :D

[languid vine]

i havent acc opened it yet, its still installing, with abunch of games in queue

[quasi warren]

If you do modded. Yeah.

[hybrid nymph]

and they SUCK!

[languid vine]

ooooooo

[quasi warren]

They are brand new. So I assume they are going vanilla

[hybrid nymph]

biomass burners are a joke, just wait until you get coal, so much better

[quasi warren]

Which, my advice? Play the game at your own pace, your own way, dont be pressured because of something someone else made or did. Thats the beauty of this game

[hybrid nymph]

exactly!

[quasi warren]

We can give you advice, yes. But we strongly recommend learning on your own

[hybrid nymph]

I'm still working on tier 8, and I am at 132 hours so far

[quasi warren]

Mistakes happen, learn from them. Grow. And the process repeats itself

[hybrid nymph]

I got to tier 8 at 96 hours and have just been taking my time

[quasi warren]

I have hit over 700 hours now?

[languid vine]

thats usually how i like to play, but if i have questions im def coming here, thats why i joined lol

[quasi warren]

And ive played since 2021 I think

[hybrid nymph]

I started in 2023

[quasi warren]

Which most new players have. We welcome you all regardless!

[hybrid nymph]

this is my 5th playthrough

[quasi warren]

10th playthrough TwT

[hybrid nymph]

i always stopped after I finished tier 8, never done tier 9 before

well again 3/5 of those playthroughs were in early access when there were only 8 tiers so yeah lol

[quasi warren]

Ive done tier 9. Pretty fun

I have all achievements too

[hybrid nymph]

riddle me this, how is Satisfactory the 10th most populaar game on steam, and how did UNDERTALE of all things?! beat it?!

[languid vine]

i got Satisfactory, Infinite Warfare, Black Ops 1 and 2, origional MW2 remastered campaign, Cyberpunk 2077, no mans sky, power wash sim 2, roadcraft, Spiderman 2, spiderman remastered, spiderman miles morales, fallout 4 GOTY and stardew valley LOL

all in queue for download

[quasi warren]

Satisfactory, no mans sky, stardew valley, and cyberpunk 2077 will zap up your weekend

[languid vine]

digial deluxes and DLCS for a bunch too

[hybrid nymph]

I have no man's sky

I am a billionaire lol

[languid vine]

got the best versions of each i could

idek how much i spent on games today LMFAO

[hybrid nymph]

I have a complete game then a second game with more hours that I screwed around on and didn't do any of the story line quests

[quasi warren]

Yknow, my fuel plant only made around...20k megawatts? And coal gen made around 5k. Kept me stable for the time being as I used refined power. I hit nuclear? That number JUMPED up

[languid vine]

oh and i got Beyond: Two Souls for me and my lady to play

i used to play it on console, NMS, it was such a great game

[hybrid nymph]

Refined power is actually pretty balanced ngl

[languid vine]

i heard its gotten some MASSIVE updates recently tho i havent played in maybe 3 years?

[hybrid nymph]

it has yes

I plhyed it last in December

[languid vine]

sweeeeet

[quasi warren]

It has gotten a ton of FREE updates

And its still getting dlc worthy updates

[hybrid nymph]

my favorite thing was ship customization

[quasi warren]

And they said they wont release a dlc. Like. Hello games. We already forgave you

[hybrid nymph]

exactly!

[languid vine]

i got two DLCs w it

[hybrid nymph]

nice screenshots

[languid vine]

yea fr

[hybrid nymph]

what am I looking at?

[languid vine]

game looks sickkk

[quasi warren]

My nuclear reactors

And a power checker from a mod

[hybrid nymph]

what are you assembling?

I installed the thorium reactlors on my modpack

[languid vine]

does the game have an objective?

[quasi warren]

Nothing yet, I just wanted to see if I could do nuclear, and with a few mods? I can

[hybrid nymph]

it does yes, complete all 5 space elevator deliveries, complete all milestones and MAM trees, and complete all achivements

I have only 2 achievements left

[languid vine]

whoa whoa, space elevator, like Halo 3 ODST space elvator??

[dull pine]

And do it efficiently

[hybrid nymph]

the golden nut statue and completing phase 4 & 5

well 3 to b exact

[quasi warren]

I sent more screenshots :}

[languid vine]

shiii hell yea

i love Halo its my fav franchise ever

im excited for Campaign Evolved

[quasi warren]

I created so much spaghetti for the whole system

[hybrid nymph]

ahh no recycling of waste I see lol

[quasi warren]

Didn't unlock it yet

[languid vine]

i gotta start playing tmr lmao

[quasi warren]

I have 400 waste a min coming through?

[languid vine]

i have the ODST and Recon gear in helldivers lol, grinded for hours just for it

those screenshots are insane holy

[quasi warren]

You will love the game LOL

[hybrid nymph]

if you run 3 nuclear reactors you will have enuff easte to feed into the reprocessing to make plujtonium fuel rods which you ca either sink for a waste free setup or you can burn then just store the plutonium waste which the reactor produces 10 times less plutonium waste than uranium waste and the plutonium fuel rods last twice as long

[languid vine]

im super hyped to play this

[quasi warren]

The graphics are beautiful (if ur graphics card can handle it)

[languid vine]

like super hyped

[quasi warren]

I use a certain console command to increase reflections for screenshots

[languid vine]

well i have a R7 5700x, 64gb DDR4, RTX4070 12gb OC so you tell me? lol

[quasi warren]

More then enough LOL

[languid vine]

cool cool lmao

[hybrid nymph]

damn better than my pc lol

I have 2 computers

[quasi warren]

The water pipe spaghetti is taking over everything

[languid vine]

i love my pc man, i just made an edit today, is there somehwere i can send off topic videos?

[hybrid nymph]

my desktop with a Ryzen 7 5800X and a RTX 2070 Super both overclocked

[quasi warren]

#off-topic-media

[languid vine]

oh i see it

lemme show yall my peaceful space

[hybrid nymph]

and my laptop is a ryzen 5 3600 and an RTX 3060

[quasi warren]

Good! Treat each milestone, tier, as a tutorial.

This games progression system is one huge tutorial.

[hybrid nymph]

I bought my laptop at Microcenter for 60% off on Black Friday

[languid vine]

i custom built my pc lol

[quasi warren]

Once all milestones have been unlocked? Its essentially a free game

[languid vine]

i started with a prebuild tho

[quasi warren]

This game can take a lot of time, mainly to do math, me and some others like to use dedicated calculators, spreadsheets, to plan out factory

[hybrid nymph]

indeed it can

this game is very time intensive

[quasi warren]

Thats because we are used to that. You? Play your own way. If you need something automated? You dont have to make it perfectly efficient. Just connect the inputs.

[hybrid nymph]

although it doesn't take as much time as god forbid ARK!?

[hidden pebble]

And after you finish the tutorial, you make your own content👀

[quasi warren]

And if later you want to make it efficient? You can. Nothing is stopping you

[hybrid nymph]

dude ARK is a full time job!

if you want to get anywhere in that game you need to put in 30 hours a week MINIMUM!

[languid vine]

i sent my full setup edit in #off-topic-media and my first pc in #screenshots

[hybrid nymph]

pretty cool I give you an 8.5/10

[languid vine]

oh wait it also couldve gone into there lmao

[hybrid nymph]

I will poat mine

[languid vine]

idk why i put them in diff channels im so high lmao

[hybrid nymph]

give me a second

[languid vine]

ty ty

[quasi warren]

I remember I did a plastic factory, turning 1200 oil a min into 2400 plastic a min

Using recycled rubber, plastic, and blenders to make diluted fuel

That is, before nuclear, my biggest project ive done

[languid vine]

and the view behind me

in #off-topic-media

ooooo very nice pc

full addressable RGB?

[quasi warren]

Anyway, brb. Gotta get something done.

[languid vine]

alr later

[hybrid nymph]

indeed yes it is, it is a full MSI cujstom PC with a custom GPU backplate, courteosy of V1tech.com

I was thinking of my next pc making an upgraded version fo the same pc, make a different tower but keep the monitors, or i might buy new monitors, so that way I can have 2 computers

perhaps a themed build

dunno?

all I know is I'm getting an rTX 5070 and a Ryzen 7 9800X

okay enuff of that, back to the game

anyone need some help or have a question?

[fickle locust]

9800x3d you mean?

[hybrid nymph]

yes that lol

my dad just died and once his estate goes through probate and I get my inheritence I'm buying a nw pc

yeah he was't that old either, he was 71

I mean at least he enjoyed his retirement for 10 years

[fickle locust]

Now is a rough time to buy a new PC though microcenter bundles are still a good way to go

Sorry about your dad though, I'm glad he got the time to be retired at least

[hybrid nymph]

and all of Trumps stupid tarrifs are driving up pc costs

because most pc parts come from China

ugh sometimes I want to move to canada

in fact I might do that this year

I'm not waiting around to find out of Republicans cancel the 2028 election

f that i'm out!

enuff of that

so happy I get to work on my factory after I finish my homwork

[fickle locust]

Clock in for a shift of your real job: making the factory grow

[chilly mirage]

Any news about Update 1.2 ?

[hybrid nymph]

We're supposed to be getting 1.2 and I think August or something?

The only thing I've heard about 1.2 is that we're getting fluid trucks

[unborn nova]

is there priority mergers for pipes?

[hybrid nymph]

I don't think so no

[languid bison]

Hi yall

[unborn nova]

im tryna find a way to prioritize the water being made from the nf uranium back into the system

[languid vine]

Shit yeah you beat me man

[languid bison]

I posted my rig down in #screenshots , should be fairly competitive

[languid bison]

There’s a satisfactory plumbing guide online that is actually very helpful
Provides different types of connections at that and how to set them up

[unborn nova]

ok i guess ill just kinda underclock the water pump to work in the extra water

[unborn nova]

interesting

[fickle locust]

Wow who makes that case 🤣

[unborn nova]

like the satisfactory tools one?

[languid bison]

I’d link it but I’m not sure what the moderation looks like here on links lol

[languid bison]

Amazon, they have some great deals on cases
Some assembly required but great size for money

[unborn nova]

i got a post in questions and help called nuclear waste disposal idk if you can put it there

[languid bison]

Sent

[languid bison]

Wdym? RAM was $50/16GB when I got it… 4 months ago
A 2TB SSD was $100… 4 months ago

[tidal dock]

I may be overwhelmed by this game but I just learned you can dismantle crash sites so that's nice

[willow pond]

my ram kit got so expensive that corsair doesn't even list it on amazon anymore 🤣

[languid bison]

I have my PC linked in #screenshots , though wouldn’t a 9070 or 9070XT be much better value for money at the moment?

[languid bison]

LOL dang man

[willow pond]

oh hey it's back

[languid bison]

Hard drives are a late game savior

[willow pond]

with 1 kit left 🤣

only $1200

[tidal dock]

I'm struggling with phase 2 so I'm guessing late game is hundreds of hours away lol

[quasi warren]

I use an alternate that completely removes fluids from the production of uranium fuel rods

Forgot what its called tho

[willow pond]

one guy on youtube posted his 6000hr world

[languid bison]

Yeah, pretty much. Good luck pioneer

[languid bison]

Dang bro, 128GB? My PC is in #screenshots , you should be able to see the 24GB of RAM

[willow pond]

nope, 64gb

[unborn nova]

interesting thats kinda cool

just using a bunch of alternate recipes?

[languid bison]

Ah I forgot. 600 for 32, 1200 for 64, 2400 for 128

[willow pond]

dominator titanium, so top end, but a year ago that meant ~$230

[willow pond]

if it works it works 🤣

[languid bison]

Peak performance, trust me

Source: trust me bro

Surprisingly enough, zero thermal issues

[willow pond]

so long as it's grounded and decently ventilated, i don't actually see too much wrong with it

[languid bison]

I have one input fan. Output does not exist, the PSU chokes from time to time but stays stable

[fluid crow]

ddr4 now costs more than ddr5 did a time ago

[willow pond]

i'm still a fan of those open air "cases" that are a fancy version of a test bench

[languid bison]

Perfect time to “invest”

[willow pond]

i have an extra ddr4 16gb kit sitting in storage rn

[languid bison]

I am actually trying to 3D print one to replace my current beauty

[languid bison]

I have an extra 32GB kit in my PC.

It is extra until I try to remove it

[willow pond]

oooooo definitely post pics of that when you've got it going, i wanna see how it's different from "normal" cases

[languid bison]

If I remember I definitely will lol. I am giving the build to a friend after (I do have another PC for my main stuff)

[tidal dock]

Does solid biofuel have another use? I just unlocked coal power and I have 2 storage crates full of the stuff

[languid bison]

Chainsaw

Don’t bother too much, you can let it sit for now

[tidal dock]

cool

[languid bison]

Powering vehicles as well

Actually it is a very good fuel for the explorer though temporary for trucks

[fickle locust]

Huh I need way more refined quartz than this factory is giving me

Time to take a train to the literal other end of the map

[crisp jetty]

can you make manifolds with crude oil pipelines

[languid vine]

sorry im back lol, had to smoke more

[fickle locust]

Yes, but if you're close to the maximum flow rate of the pipe you'll want to loop it

[unkempt blade]

and then loop the loop and then loop that loop and then it'll probably finally look cool enough

[limpid iron]

I think you should just loop every liquid manifold

[unkempt blade]

plus two additional loops just for style

[limpid iron]

👍

[lost rapids]

Uhh i wish i was able to rename myself in Satis

[languid vine]

what are some tips yall can give me as a first time player? gonna start playing tmr when all my games are done downloading

[lost rapids]

( and no, i can't change through Steam for some reasons )

[limpid iron]

me personally I just package my oil and use factory carts to move it to the unpackager to go into a manifold

[unkempt blade]

Play at your own pace. Don't get too sweaty about what's best/optimized. Use lots of vehicles because they're fun

[languid vine]

okok

[limpid iron]

game pretty much teaches you itself

[languid vine]

fair

[unkempt blade]

and always loop your pipes at least 3 times!

[limpid iron]

though 4 times is better

[languid vine]

lol alr

[limpid iron]

spaghetti is ok

unless youre like me and its a crime

[cunning dome]

Should I pick bolted iron plate or bolted frame, or non

[unkempt blade]

yes

[cunning dome]

❔

[unkempt blade]

they both use screws so they're both great recipes

[limpid iron]

always use recipes that use screws btw

cast screws are a waste of time too

[unkempt blade]

Ok now there we disagree. Cast screws is objectively the best alt recipe

[cunning dome]

got it thanks guys, is there a reason to this?

[limpid iron]

to make the game harder

[cunning dome]

[reef basin]

Ignore this discord, youtube, reddit, etc. and play on your own. Game teaches you plenty

[reef basin]

It isn't harder tho

[limpid iron]

got to make lotta screws

just more annoying than hard

[reef basin]

You should pick what you need/want/like. If you don't know, flip a coin

[reef basin]

Not really tbh

[hollow hemlock]

get one, then go get more harddrives and get the other, then get all the rest too

[unkempt blade]

use the blueprinter, it loves screw recipes

[halcyon meadow]

I think I am getting a little confused on the dimensional deport dose it pull the rescouce from there or is it just a place holder and I have to take the rescouce from it before using it?

[hidden pebble]

I'm sure you'll get a new menu, a list of all items uploaded in the depot so that you can pull from it when you need it. And also, they are automatically taken from when you build stuff.

[halcyon meadow]

I see the list on the left

So its like bonus storage space on your inventory?

[hidden pebble]

It's cloud storage. You fill it up from wherever. Pull out from it wherever.

[pine bough]

I removed my whole spaghetti factory in need of a more efficient one, I have a bunch of platforms and I’m making every material automated… I started this like 5 months ago 😭 I want to do it but like it’s so boring