satisfactory

[fiery gull]

The new person tag = no vote

[tall lantern]

if they're legitimately through the floor and just stuck a lil below you could get through, though you won't be able to to do much with 'em I don't think

short of put 'em out of their peace

[simple roost]

The foundation they were on was sitting on the ground. I'm pretty done with worrying about it, though. lol

[ornate saffron]

Worst case if you did care you can use the SCIM (Satisfactory calcualtor and interactive map) to change there position back to the pen

[simple roost]

Okay, so that sounds along the lines of that post I shared earlier. It's the interactive map, then?

Okay, I've found them. They ARE in the sunken place, below their pen. https://imgur.com/4aFAojo

[ornate saffron]

lol

[real shale]

me clicking the imgur link but im in the UK

[ornate saffron]

is it blocked there or something?

[real shale]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

its a pic of SCIM showing his doggos are -300 on the Z plan

[simple roost]

Success. All of them are recovered from the sunked place. Thanks for the help, @ornate saffron ! https://imgur.com/undefined

[scenic mirage]

how much power do yall have by phase 3

[real shale]

128 GW

[scenic mirage]

cant you use #screenshots instead of links

the point of having a screenshots channel isnt so you upload screenshots to an image hosting site then click that

[ornate saffron]

40gw here 32 coal generators and one pure oil node.

[tall lantern]

maybe they're just biased against the Brits, since we can't view Imgur by default now

[scenic mirage]

normal fuel?

[scenic mirage]

lmaooooo L

[real shale]

even with a VPN i cant access imgur

[ornate saffron]

np this is a good community to point you in the right direction. poor about broad questions though lol.

[simple roost]

Better? #screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

fr tho dumb asf denmark wants to do smth similar with scanning everyones messages

[simple roost]

You got me. It's because y'all spell imagez "imauges"

[sick falcon]

if ur under the map can you place miners on nodes

[fiery gull]

Yo guys

[oak nymph]

Would it be a good idea two merge to different item into one belt then use a smart splitter to seperate them

[fiery gull]

*two

[oak nymph]

Yeah two

[oak nymph]

Then what's the answer

[fiery gull]

It wasn't a question

[oak nymph]

Wdym

[leaden turret]

reminder: imgur blocks the uk

[simple roost]

Not a reminder; first I've heard of it. I wonder why?

[leaden turret]

cheaper than complying with uk government nonsense

[hazy topaz]

why is the math for this game so gah damn complicated 😭 😭

[fiery gull]

British are too civilized for americans

[simple roost]

GDPR?

[fiery gull]

Wts is that

[leaden turret]

hahahahahahahaha no.

[ornate saffron]

if you want to reduce the quanity of belts i see no issues.

[unkempt blade]

because of "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?" 🤣

[simple roost]

Hmmm. I wonder what the nonsense is. I'll have to google down that rabbit hole later. I wouldn't fuss about it too much, though. Rn, the consumer protections in the US are next to nothing.

[rain hollow]

Is there any recipe for steel ingots that doesn't need coal?

[void cliff]

It’s usually just basic algebra, what math are you struggling with?

[void cliff]

Yes, compacted steel ingots and petroleum coke ingots

[hazy topaz]

A lot, it’s overwhelming because i’ve got 3 normal MK1 nodes and i’ve been trying to learn manifolds, split balancing and I don’t know how much of iron rods, plates, screws, reinforced plates to produce.

[ornate saffron]

no all steel ingots require Coal

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Steel_Ingot

[weary condor]

As long as your belts can handle the combined throughput its a great space saver! Its called sushi belts

[fluid crow]

planners can be nice just to get a ballpark on some numbers even if you don't follow it entirely

[ornate saffron]

i suggest trying Satisfactory Tool. The link is pinned in #math-and-meta can really help

[rain hollow]

What does the compacted need?

[ornate saffron]

coal

[rain hollow]

Then that still needs coal, just indirectly

I need a recipe that needs no coal anywhere

[ornate saffron]

the Coke Steel Ingot uses Heavy oil

[sour ledge]

if you need steel ingots specifically you're hosed - you'll need some kinda coal in there.

BUT! If you need steel pipes you can make them out of iron directly using the Iron Pipe alt, and if you need steel beams you can make them out of aluminum using an alt recipe. So you can avoid steel ingots if you want

[weary condor]

Whats your end product?

[ornate saffron]

the Coke Steel Ingot uses Heavy oil Residue in place of coal. You make petroliumcoke from HOR then make steel uses the coke

[weary condor]

Yeah thats what I was gonna suggest

[rain hollow]

Beams but I really don't have a convenient spot for coal

Or aluminum

[rain hollow]

Compacted coke?

[weary condor]

I had to do a 2.3km belt last night for coal for steel for some elevator parts and truck stops🤷

[rain hollow]

Never heard of that

[sour ledge]

if you're early enough you're freshly needing beams you're prolly best off working out coal or petrocoke tbh - aluminum is a later thing than steel is

but if you haven't got oil production going yet petrocoke isn't on the table either so you might just be down to coal

[rain hollow]

I'm on tier 8 currently working on leading-edge production

[sour ledge]

what are you doing in tier 8 that coal is the holdup!? lol

[rain hollow]

But I moved my whole factory from the glass lands to the dunes desert so everything needs to be set back up

[ornate saffron]

the Coke Steel Ingot uses Heavy oil Residue in place of coal. You make petroliumcoke from HOR then make steel uses the coke i correctmyself here i used the wrong name sorry

[quasi warren]

Theres an amazing spot with some coal near the mountains

Its what im using for my steel plant currently

[rain hollow]

The closest coal to me is two impure nodes and one is being used for compacted coal to make turbo heavy fuel

[ornate saffron]

any oil near?

[rain hollow]

But then I realized I have no motors to make an oil extractor so I need to set back up motors but later I will very soon need to set back up encased industrial beams which need steel beams which I can't make without coal so it's been a mess

[south jackal]

Howdy yall

[rain hollow]

Not very but yes

And I'm using the heavy oil residue for turbo heavy fuel

Or going to at least when I finish getting motors automated again

[ornate saffron]

lol the logistics is a hurdle to over come. I suggest build near the resources. Since you have oil near if you are not using it for something else you can use it to make steel

[rain hollow]

Because I need more for extractors and refineries

[jaunty vault]

Hey guys how did you build your first heavy modular frame factory? Looking for some tips

[rain hollow]

I might be able to use truck stops to transport the coal though if I can find a good route

[dense violet]

coal iron and limestone - basically like every other factory

[quasi warren]

What i just pinged you is usually where I build my steel factory

[dense violet]

there are alt recipes that can heavily reduce the resources you need ofc

[ornate saffron]

the good thing is you can use the coal to power your trucks ^_^

[jaunty vault]

What resource ends up being the bottleneck in your experience

[dense violet]

... none? there's more limestone coal and iron on the map than you can handle

[rain hollow]

I didn't know of those spots and they might actually be better to use for anything other than turbo fuel

[quasi warren]

I use those coal and iron for my steel plant

[rain hollow]

Because I already have a miner on an impure node for compact coal for turbo heavy fuel

[south jackal]

Im curious on yalls opinion on this because im conflicted on what to build

1. One giant base and have a train network to smelt stuff then ship it to the base
2. A bunch of smaller bases that make 1 specific item and requests from a extracting base via trians
3. Make everything by hand

[quasi warren]

Atleast you now know where might be a good place to build it

[dense violet]

all of that sounds like hell

[ornate saffron]

i decided to make all the phase 3,4, and 5 (10/min for phase 5) parts in one factory and i didnt use all the iron in the dunes for it

[south jackal]

They would require setup but the second wouldn't be awful if we had on the fly logistics (project cybersyn my beloved)

3rd is just torture

[rain hollow]

I'll definitely transport coal to the oasis to make the steel there because that's where I have everything

[dense violet]

bringing all the ingots to a smeltering point and then OUT again is more than double the logistics of just bringing the ore where it needs to

doing single item factory of everything is often tons more work cause you can often build more objects right next door and smoosh them

doing everything by hand doesn't even need to be explained

[quasi warren]

Two normal iron and two normal coal nodes. Its perfect imo

[rain hollow]

I'm trying something new by putting certain groups of items into their own buildings

[ornate saffron]

i spread factories out. I make a list of what i need to accomplish then build a factory where the resources are abuindant for the projects needs

[south jackal]

Well they would be smelted on site it would just be transporting ingots

[jaunty vault]

The iron and limestone near all my shit is impure and there is no coal nodes within proximity to iron and limestone so does the desert biome have what i need or do you bring your coal in by train?

[fluid crow]

I think it depends on your learning style and what your device can handle

[rain hollow]

Is the limestone?

[ornate saffron]

where are you?> grass lands

[quasi warren]

Its in the image...hold on..

[jaunty vault]

Yep… my first playthrogh and im kind of realizing it was a bad spawn choice

[south jackal]

My device can handle it but by brain begs for on fly logistics

[quasi warren]

3 normal limestone nodes reasonably close by

[dense violet]

an example of a HMF plan with resource cost reduction recipes https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=KRXwBa5O8t8q4aFa9fIS

[ornate saffron]

naw thats what i did this playthrough

[dense violet]

why? it's got everything you need

and plenty of space

[jaunty vault]

The coal is in bad locations

[rain hollow]

I'll just transport the steel beams and make the encased industrial beams at the oasis

[dense violet]

you have coal in the SW not far from iron and limetone?

[jaunty vault]

2 normal nodes within like 1000m

[rain hollow]

I'll make the steel beams at the coal nodes though

[dense violet]

use distant coal for power

[quasi warren]

The screenshot i took is like the perfect location for all of it

[rain hollow]

How did you get the map to be that detailed?

[fluid crow]

might be easier for some to divide it up or others to have it all in one place

[jaunty vault]

Mainly im transitioning over to oil but the annoying part now is the steel production because of the distance of the coal nodes

[quasi warren]

SCIM

[dense violet]

I pinged you 2 great spots in the grasslands for hmf >.>

[elfin smelt]

I used trucks to transport coal for my early game steel setups

[fluid crow]

you could make centralized or non centralized on the fly I would say

[south jackal]

I can make them on the fly but im more reffering to what project cybersyn did

[dense violet]

At least 4 great spots in the grassy fields for hmf

[south jackal]

As in one place requests 400 of something then the computer gets 400 of something from one place to another

[ornate saffron]

i posted some stuff in #math-and-meta to hopefully help you through your situation

[jaunty vault]

@dense violet @ornate saffron thank you for the help guys

[dense violet]

if you want to go iron pipe and chew through Iron you can really do it anywhere with iron and limestone >.> https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=FW3iFVBHIhQglWIeJJRO

look at the two plans I've linked at you

[jaunty vault]

Okay thank you i have exactly what i needed now

[dense violet]

and you can replace regular steel with oil steel with Coke steel - tons of options 😉

[ornate saffron]

@stiff river was this your first fuel power plant?

#screenshots message

[stiff river]

I had another one before on the same spot but it was really bad.

[ornate saffron]

Congrats man, its a solid milestone.

I personally don't break down my bad builds. I like to see my progression. I hate myself everytine I load my update 7 save lol

[quasi warren]

Same T-T

Like "...I made that...? why"

[stiff river]

It took too much space I needed so it had to go

Thanks btw

[ornate saffron]

When I walk out of that hub and my eyes are assaulted by the conveyor spaghetti and floating sky highway it hurts but makes me appreciate how far I've come

[quasi warren]

I still do floating sky highways

[ornate saffron]

i dont i make supports that are inspired my my commute and architecture

[south jackal]

I remember the word adaptive, adaptive logistics

[quasi warren]

#screenshots message this looks cleaner then mine!!

[tranquil saffron]

hi satisfactoriers

[wise junco]

hewwo

[jaunty vault]

Got a nice heavy frame alternate recipe that uses rubber instead of steel so thats gonna make my plans a lot simpler

[wise junco]

I'm thinking about starting over, and yet... I sort of want the progress (MAM/elevator/hub) of this save.

What do you guys do? Start over a whole new save? Edit the save and just delete your buildables?

[tranquil saffron]

spend 50 hours on ur first save, quit for ur second, spend 100 hours on that one, start third save with cheats where i feel somewhat satisfied

[ornate saffron]

leave everything where it is and build more else where. The hub and Space elevator can be disassembled and moved. Worst case your existing factories stall out and go silent best case they feed the awesome sink for tickets

[untold moat]

anyone have a list handy of all materials you need for building all machines and vehicles/vehicle adjacent buildings?

[dense violet]

I'd probably go coke steel then, that way you can cut out coal entirely

[dense violet]

also look at getting steel screws since it uses a lot of screws pm

[jaunty vault]

Yes i luckily got the steel screw recipe. Ended up chosing an encased steel beam recipe that takes pipes instead of beams so I can cut beam production a lot. Now i have a choice between “solid steel ingot” or “molded steel pipe” and idk…

[jaunty vault]

Instead of rubber heavy frames that is

[dense violet]

well thatll depend on if youre doing coke steel

[jaunty vault]

True. Damn

Thats a tough decision to lock into lol what do u think i should do

[dense violet]

depends on the location choice 🙂

prob coke if youre doing rubber frame

[jaunty vault]

Is there a way to craft the hard drives or do I have to go find crashes?

[fluid crow]

the latter

[jaunty vault]

Okay thanks Are there enough to unlock every recipe?

[fluid crow]

that's what I've heard but can't confirm

[jaunty vault]

Okay thanks

[fluid crow]

I'm still trying to unlock like a stack of 40 😭

[dense violet]

build mams while you explore and scan as you go

[fluid crow]

I have them everywhere at this point

[dense violet]

you can dismantle them after they start scanning

[fluid crow]

I put them around my factories too

if I do another play through I'll probably stay on top of it but didn't know in the beginning

[dense violet]

eveyrone is new at some point. besides while going up the tiers it's less impactful. Just build what yo uneed to progress

[weary kestrel]

Everyone is new at some point is very real and very true

[fluid crow]

I haven't even wanted to use them for the most part yet

[weary kestrel]

Ive been sitting on phase 3 for an illegal amount of time because I dont want to learn aluminium 🤣

[dense violet]

they become more powerful as you understand their impacts and how to combine them in different situations 🙂

[coral marsh]

I gotta say, I hate the ACU more than the thermal propulsion jet

[fluid crow]

I just want to build stuff the default way first

[weary kestrel]

Building motors with only iron

[dense violet]

up to you 🙂 but even with a few basic alt recipes you can build HMF with like a 75% discount on iron, 50% discount on limestone and coal pretty easily

[dense violet]

iron pipes is so painful. Especially when Coal + iron is the most common combo on the map

I think iron is a trash resource, but iron pipes is still a crime

[weary kestrel]

That's also valid, it does consume a fair chunk of iron

[coral marsh]

Molded pipes is a great recipe especially with coke steel ingots

[dense violet]

so much iron.
molded is fine if you got heaps of limestone

I wouldn't go out of my way to use it though

[fluid crow]

all though I have almost built everything the default way now and want those alts ready to go 😼

[weary kestrel]

Most of my alts are still banked up as idk whats good or not 🤣

Wet concrete wss a nice find, I liked that

[dense violet]

it's largely all good - I hate iron pipe but it's still useful

[zenith pecan]

I have a dedicated wet concrete to depot factory miles out from anywhere 🙂

[coral marsh]

Wet concrete is a life saver for a lot of recipes especially when needing to consume water by products

[dense violet]

grab all the recipes then get creative

make super computers entirely from Caterium and Oil

[coral marsh]

The OC super computer alt recipe is the best one imo (thats the one cobalt mentioned)

Use the right alt for other products in the line and the only other main resource you need is quartz

[dense violet]

noooo that's not the one I'm mentioning

OC super computer is a resource hog

base SC and Comp recipes - everything from oil and caterium https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QKXkBeeoCHWzhldUExiT

[coral marsh]

Interesting you say that because I ise oc super computers ro make 50 per minute and all I need is oil, quartz caterium and copper

Guess I havent done enough research

[dense violet]

OC needs bauxite too

and N gas

the final production line is compact as you only need an assember - because those bauxite items take a good chunk of resources.

[coral marsh]

Yea i just had a look at my oc sc factory, you are right, I am sorry

[dense violet]

oh that's ok - it's a stealth resource price tag. Hard to spot without heavy comparisons

imo it's a very niche recipe. I don't think I'd ever make that trade

[coral marsh]

Fair

I just saw assemblers and was like "bro I gotta make a stack per minute" lol

[wary falcon]

how do i build a 2 way train? i build a train with locomotors facing both directions, but when i select the stations to go to it does not

[fiery gull]

Nerds wsp

[dense violet]

same. assemblers is a draw, but in this case you pay for it with a lot more machines behind it

I guess it's a good choice if you're already making those 2 items and have excess?

[dense violet]

your stations are facing the wrong way

[wary falcon]

alright ill see if that works ty

[dense violet]

they need to be like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1435848344273555517/1435848804506140723/image.png?ex=698222a7&is=6980d127&hm=292e1c4bd10461836d1840e1543d2181766dbc6f191ab0b838615af7104f4f83&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[wary falcon]

im assuming that means i also dont need 2 locomotor stations on each then? ok tyty

[coral marsh]

Fk sakes, ive only had my upgraded gpu for about 1-2 years and I need to upgrade again, I was gonna get the 7600Xt but I couldn't afford it.

[manic pivot]

why do u NEED to upgrade ?

[wary falcon]

ehhh i did what u said cobalt abt the trains, looks exactly like what u talked about, full power to all. but it says "next stop is unreachable" but it easily ixsz

[coral marsh]

Satisfactory is consuming 11Gb of Ram, all 8gb i have of Vram, running the gpu at 98% util and my Cpu is in dire need of an upgrade as well

[manic pivot]

holy shit 98% util for satisfactory? What GPU do u have

[coral marsh]

Looks like im saving up for a Radeon 9060Xt

[coral marsh]

Rx7600 all I could afford at the time

Let's take this to #off-topic-general

[flat depot]

should i make a satisfactory channel

[manic pivot]

sorry to break it to u but someone is mining on ur PC 💔

[flat depot]

fr

[coral marsh]

Nah thats bullshit lmao

[manic pivot]

Dude I have a rtx 4050 laptop and it doesn't even pass 55% utilization with satisfactory on high-ultra and discord vc

[coral marsh]

Btw #off-topic-general

[manic pivot]

U have smth wrong with ur pc

[plush raft]

i really hope in 1.2 they add a way to get a specific number of items from a belt like say i want 10% of the items there definitely should be a way to do this

[dense violet]

you already can

[plush raft]

without doing a super complex line of spliters and stuff?

[jaunty vault]

If the cost of fuel is 6m^3 at 60 per minute does that mean 360m^3 per minute or is the 60 the total?

[dense violet]

yes. It's called 'clocking' it solves 99.9999% of logistic problems before you start

[dense violet]

also a ratio splitter has already been axed as that removes like 90% of the thinking for logistics design.
in a logistics design game

go get a mod if you want that

[plush raft]

clocking like over clocking?

[dense violet]

and under clocking

planning and clocking solves basically all your logistics issues

[plush raft]

💀

[distant pulsar]

wym by the "cost" of fuel

[jaunty vault]

Sorry, to craft the fuel in refinery with crude oil

[manic pivot]

Btw chat what's the ending of all these "objectives"

[plush raft]

i know that what i was talking about was like say you have a train and you only want half of the materials to go to this station and the other half to go to another

[jaunty vault]

Trying to figure out how many refineries i can use efficiently on an oil patch producing 600m per minute for a fuel generator factory. If that makes sense

[plush raft]

space elevator

[distant pulsar]

just divide 600m by your recipe amount per min

[manic pivot]

ik bruh but what we Gon do w it

[jaunty vault]

Dont spoil ending if its cool plz

[plush raft]

save humaity i guess?

i didn't know there was a actual ending?

[fluid crow]

save puppies and kittens haven't you been paying attention

[sick falcon]

factorio is down the hall and to the left

[distant pulsar]

if you produce 600 per min and a machine requires 60 per min you can hook up 10 buildings. no tricks on cubic meters or anything

[sick falcon]

#story-spoilers

[plush raft]

well you see i like 3D not 2D

[jaunty vault]

Okay, thank you 🙂 My main confusion was the fact that it requires 6 to craft 1. So I wasnt sure if the total requirement would end up needing multiplied by the original cost. Nice i can just use the easy numbers.

[rain hollow]

How difficult will it be to set up nuclear power without currently being able to recycle the uranium waste?

[fluid crow]

factorio also has a reason to save resources and not just let something run, so a logic system for that is more relevant

[distant pulsar]

idk what you mean by 6 to craft 1 -- but yes the numbers are pretty simple. It's effectively the same as belts. They just transpot a fixed "amount" per min, in this case the "amount" is a cubic fluid rather than 1 object like a belt would have

[jaunty vault]

I just mean it takes 6m^3 of crude oil to make the recipe 1 time

But, it doesn’t work that way so i appreciate the correction

[distant pulsar]

Yeah I see what you're saying

[fluid crow]

it will give you the per minute conversion looking at the machines

[flat depot]

what is the coffee stainer role

[distant pulsar]

if you spill coffee on yourself and then upload a selfie to #screenshots you'll get it

[jaunty vault]

Okay thanks. I guess i thought that number was the amount of times the recipe was being done in a minute. Idk seems dumb now

[fluid crow]

number of resource it consumes or creates. can look at packager for anything confusing with that type of thing

[flat depot]

bruh

[jaunty vault]

Dude i still havent even started with the packaging im not lookin forward to it

Do yall put a little plant next to your packagers for empty containers or do you like to ship them in?

[fluid crow]

containers is a pain but otherwise can be easier to put a packager than run pipes everywhere sometimes

[tall lantern]

why do you need to package?

the most common packaging setups generally then unpackage somewhere else and can send the canisters back

[jaunty vault]

Idk. I honestly havent really messed with it yet or looked into it

Good to know

[tall lantern]

but for a basic fuel setup, there's no need to package or unpackage since the refineries make fuel and the fuel generators eat fuel

(and for the diluted packaged fuel loop, keyword there is loop - you can make small reusable sections which keep their canisters entirely selfcontained and reused)

[weary kestrel]

Self contained loop on diluted is fantastic

[jaunty vault]

Whats the best fuel for the jetpack?

[tall lantern]

depends

they each have different characteristics

[fluid crow]

until end game liquid bio

[tall lantern]

(which I can't remember offhand, I just use a lil Liquid Biofuel setup fed by crates, connected to a DD)

[jaunty vault]

Okay thanks. Just trying to get the fuck off this solid biofuel

[fluid crow]

I quit using it a rocket but it does still have a longer horizontal range

[tall lantern]

I'm sure the wiki would have info on how they compare

if in doubt, wiki it out

[fluid crow]

horizontal range sorry

liquid bio pretty much the goat for getting around

[fluid crow]

just need a refinery and some water

[weary kestrel]

I love liquid biofuel, its just easy to slam whatever I get from chainsaw into constructors and then forget about it

[cyan leaf]

Wait regular fuel isnt the best 😭 ffff I've been running it since being able to use it

[fluid crow]

you're in for a treat

[ornate saffron]

So fuel and liquid biofuel are very different. I like ziplining which conserves momentum so I like regular fuel early as quick bursts provide more speed the liquid biofuel which is slow speed wise but grants you more height.

Instead of trying to gain height from the fuel I gain height by laying down power poles from point a to b then zipline upwards

They provide you many tools in the game choose the tools you like for the task infront of you

[obsidian quail]

I really need to get better at ziplining, it's hilarious watching myself try to grab onto the lines successfully hahah.

[fluid crow]

it is a bit wonky getting on there sometimes

[real shale]

you can right click to hold the animation for ziplining without having to hold down left click

[obsidian quail]

That is usually what I do. Getting it to stick can be cumbersome. Not a complaint, just a skill issue.

[fluid crow]

I almost got the gold nuts then all I have to do is find some hard drives and ||drive a cyber wagon||

[torn lynx]

how mnay machiens can you hook the coal generator up to?

[dense violet]

well they make 75mw - there's no strict number of machines

[dense violet]

just in general - get out of habit of trying to do machine maths - you won't get 'ratios' to do anything in the game , especially since there's multiple recipes for the same item and you can change the clocking of essentially every machine

[sick falcon]

which motor recipe is best for mass production

[dense violet]

define best 😛

[jaunty vault]

Do you guys use roofs as floors for the second story of your buildings?

[dense violet]

if you need an ASS ton of motors I like rigor motors - just need some extra crystal - and works well with coke steel

[dense violet]

typically just foundations

[zenith pecan]

I generally use the 1x8 foundations and create a space between floors to handle some logistics & power.

[torn lynx]

that doiesnt help me, i sjut wanted to knwo how many machien i can hook it up to

[dense violet]

every machine uses a different amount of power. There is no answer

[zenith pecan]

Problem is each machine has its own power requirement.

[dense violet]

I told you how much power 1 generator makes

[zenith pecan]

One coal plant might run multiple constructors for example, but hook up a particle accelerator and watch the fuse blow.

[torn lynx]

wait, tyhen why doies the biofuel reactor jsut die when i hook up mroe than 3 things

[tranquil zinc]

omg, just started a new save and using keyboard instead of controller and I don't know how to do stuff anymore lol

[dense violet]

because those 3 things happen to use more than 1 bioburner's power

3+ things

4 assemblers use 32mw at 100% - 1x bioburner outputs 30mw

[tranquil zinc]

is there like a toggle for snap? like do I have to continously hold on to ctrl?

[dense violet]

do number maths 🙂

[fluid crow]

they spelled deez wrong

[real shale]

One fuel generator might run multiple constructors, but hook up a particle accelerator and....I'm starting to see just how much power a particle accelerator uses

[zenith pecan]

Lol yeah, my time crystal plant has several particle accelerators spinning coke into diamonds 😄

And they're overclocked.

[real shale]

I'll soon be able to start using particle accelerators

[tranquil zinc]

and there is no like scroll wheel anymore for build on keyboard? lol

[real shale]

Scroll wheel is cycle equipment

Or rotate I think

[zenith pecan]

I will have a second time crystal facility up just south of the spire to convert the oil there and provide crystals for manufacture, the initial plant was just taking up spare coke that my bauxite refinery didn't use, so those are just for the depot.

[real shale]

my scroll wheel is broken.....i have to use it very slowly

[tranquil zinc]

i mean the overlay, where I can see all my shortcuts in a big interface. Rather than small interface on the bottom of the screen

controller has this

[zenith pecan]

Eeek, new mouse is only like £10 for a basic one 🙁

[real shale]

Funny thing is this is a problem I've had with every mouse I've had

[zenith pecan]

Are you heavy handed with it 😛

[real shale]

I have no idea, but if I use it too fast it scrolls the opposite way

[fluid crow]

I have to take mine apart and clean it every year or two

[molten cypress]

why does the looking for group chat only show old post so hard to get to the new ones

[fluid crow]

you can sort by date posted or recently active

[molten cypress]

im dumb i figured it out

[sick falcon]

we're doing alchemy now? im still making motors 😭

[tranquil saffron]

i just finished my symmetrical modular engine factory, making motors is a zen art 😂

you know how i know this game is actually good? because i see the devs actually playing their own game 😂 ... and believe me, that's a rarity

[zenith pecan]

Keep in mind though I'm building end game stuff as I pley saves for extended periods of time.

[sick falcon]

why does it work well with coke steel

[dense violet]

because if you want to use the insulated oscilators you need oil anyway and it really saves you on crystal.

needs caterium thoug h

[void cliff]

Crystal oscillators is one of my most hated mid-game components

[shrewd hatch]

an ass ton of motors

[sick falcon]

what use case is polymer resin alt recipe

[void cliff]

Making cloth fiber and residual recipes for plastic/rubber. that’s it.

Would be cool if polymer resin was used in more alts, tbh!!

[cyan leaf]

Honestly those 3 items alone is woth only being used in em

[torn lynx]

my water pumpo isnt working, its hooked up to pwoer and everyhtin g

[sick falcon]

does making power shards kill the slug

[zenith pecan]

Is it aimed the right way?

[fluid crow]

it goes to live on a farm

[sick falcon]

:(

[dense violet]

wait till t9 for vegan shards

[ornate saffron]

I break them there too. So it's bought the cheapest mouse I could find with the highest repairability (with repair guides) on ifixit

[limpid cairn]

different recipes use different power too no?

[sick falcon]

only particle accelerators (and maybe encoders idk)

[fluid crow]

and converters

this one can use over 28gw

[hybrid nymph]

Hey guys been super busy with school lately haven't had time to play, sorry for my inactivity

I also got a new job at Amazon

So I will have less time

I think I will only have time on the weekends going forward

[quasi warren]

Thats usually how I play it

[hybrid nymph]

Okay so not too bad, and I also got a new job as a twitch streamer

I put in like 3 hours a day in that, and post daily

I will try to get back into it more once I finish Diablo II, Diablo III, and Diablo IV

That's what I am currently streaming

Hey I have 106 subscribers so not too bad for only 1 month of steaming 🍜

What tier are you all on these days?

I'm on the beginning of tier 8

Random question, can I still get achievements if I mod the game?

[dusk kelp]

Just a question, how hard is satisfactory plus in 1.1

[hybrid nymph]

I was only going to get 3 mods, the awesome sink points mod to make tickets easier, the glass fluid tank mod, and the mod that shows the locations of sloops, spheres, and slugs on the map

[hybrid nymph]

Tedious, but not too bad

[dusk kelp]

What is the late game like with the new machines

[hybrid nymph]

I am in the 5th playthrough always stopping at nuclear power, and I am currently at tier 8 again

Not much different actually

Not too bad

A few things were changed and made easier, but for the most part mostly the same as 1.0

1.2 is coming in summer this year and we are supposed to get fluid tank trucks, the ability to add trailers to trucks, and a few other things

[hollow hemlock]

I just want trucks with a less shitty route setup system 🙁

[void cliff]

It’s not that bad if you know how it works. Still more work than trains.

[hollow hemlock]

I think it's not that hard to know how it works, it's still shitty

[void cliff]

Dyk you can delete waypoints, change pause durations ?

[fickle locust]

Agree so much with this, make vehicles easier to set up and I'd use them way more often

Let me draw the line to follow on a map without having to drive it

[hollow hemlock]

Yes, what I want to do is move the waypoints I dont delete and maybe just plop waypoints down instead of clumsily trying to drive the truck

also it would be nice if the thing didnt get stuck on every stump or branch on the ground, I want to go offroading

[void cliff]

Would certainly be nice if you could build a path similar to a train track.

[fluid crow]

like a road?

[hollow hemlock]

at least allow me to edit the path so if I make one little mistake I dont have to redo the whole thing

[quasi warren]

You can delete the nodes btw

If you make a mistake. Just delete that node

Makes it so much easier

[hollow hemlock]

I know I can delete, that doesnt help if I want to shift one over or something

[quasi warren]

Ah.

[void cliff]

More like an actual track. Trucks would follow it without the need for programming. That’s the complaint here.

[hollow hemlock]

let me place the waypoints manually, that'd be ok...course then it'd probably just find ways to get stuck

[ornate saffron]

My biggest issue with trucks...... is that I can't drive them.... I gotta get friends to record the routes

[dense violet]

yeah for the most part all machines will use the same power no matter the recipe

[hollow hemlock]

also always amusing when you have a truck route intersecting with another and they happily run right into each other with a "you move...no, you move" face off

[fluid crow]

I don't like how you can't make the camera not auto center or move with the vehicle

[granite basalt]

there is a button for it

[fluid crow]

in some vehicles

[quasi warren]

I wana build road infrastructure so I can just bring resources from one place to another. As I have NEVER touched trucks/tractors

[dense violet]

in general imo plan trucks with factories you can mostly use the natural terrain

if you're going to make infrastructure like that use trains

[hollow hemlock]

it's fun to watch them buzz around, it's just so annoying to setup

[void cliff]

Most use case for trucks and tractors are simple point to point loops, using natural paths. By the time you unlock railroads (phase 3), it’s just easier to do the same thing with a train

[hollow hemlock]

even if trains or even belts would be more optimal, rule of cool applies

[void cliff]

I say that as a guy who loves using trucks and driving them off cliffs when programming them.

[granite basalt]

trucks need fuel

that's the main problem

[fluid crow]

and it still turns with the vehicle it just doesn't recenter its self

[hollow hemlock]

feed em a nice tasty plutonium rod every couple days, they'll be fine

[void cliff]

They only make sense to use where fuel is part of the loop or available at that factory

Coal or oil. Fuel logistics for your logistics just makes it not worth it

[quasi warren]

So basically just wait untill I get trains?

[hollow hemlock]

depends on what you want, trains look cool, trucks look cool, belts are kinda messy but theyre the most consistent

[quasi warren]

...fair enough.

Like for example. From the blue crater to the dune desert

[frigid knoll]

is it okay to not have efficient foundries yet

(im at like tier 5)

[hollow hemlock]

trucks and tractors together look amusing too. My nuclear plant has all three buzzing around

[granite basalt]

depends
like your steel factory is far from your iron / copper factory
so you need steel pipe for the next few things
trucks is good cause at steel factory there is coal also to feed the fuel

[hollow hemlock]

(and a drone feeding the fuel because I was feeling lazy)

[quasi warren]

Ohhh ok

[wet inlet]

When you got the Alt Recipe for Steel from just Iron
🎉

[granite basalt]

in this case, train

[void cliff]

Drones for fuel logistics work really well

[quasi warren]

To bring in plastic from blue crater to dune desert to be turned into whatever, use trains?

[wet inlet]

Still haven't got the ones that substitutes Screws or gives faster Screw creation, but anyway

[hollow hemlock]

or just bring fuel and just prime a couple refinerys looping back and forth with the recycled rubber/plastic recipes (then you get both materials and only have to bring in one)

[granite basalt]

yes, that's a bit too far for trucks and trucks fuel logistic, you also need to plan the route well

also there is some oil at right at bottom of dune desert if you want closer plastic

[quasi warren]

Yea ik, I used that before. I was thinking on a larger scale

[deep sapphire]

whats a good spot im js starting out and dont know anything

i completed the tutorial and progressed abit to space elevator

[hollow hemlock]

park yourself near an iron copper and limestone node, not too far from coal and have at it

[deep sapphire]

i saw a coal node around where i was but theres no water around here

[wet inlet]

Also, don't worry about having to destroy and remake factories

[deep sapphire]

should i move

[deep sapphire]

thats the thing im worrying about the most 😭

[hollow hemlock]

depends, you can always find another coal node with water, if the other stuff is nearby you're pretty well good to go

[wet inlet]

Oh, you will, you will do it multiple times

[deep sapphire]

😭

[deep sapphire]

yeah im prob js gonna go exploring and find the nearest water source

[wet inlet]

Also, water is... Dunno, I practically find them via memorization now

[deep sapphire]

wild

[wet inlet]

Not like you will die if the power grid run out of biomatter, so just look around first to site your water extraction node

[deep sapphire]

alr thanks man imma go exploring

[real shale]

Someone booted up the game for the first time

[granite basalt]

in this case if you really to do it with the truck then the distance is about 6.8km straight, say 10km for elevation, speed change,... back and forth is about 20km, should be more than 99 coals.
so the idea to have 2 fuel stations at entrance of south swamp and south dune desert. having 2 trucks coal to feed it then it's goo to go

[real shale]

Time to make a petrol station yippe

[deep sapphire]

ohh i js found a waterfall should i settle down around there

[sick falcon]

i just rescanned my hard drive and nothing changed

is it bugged

[real shale]

That's a whole lot of TMI

[granite basalt]

it's beautiful, why not
since you are new you would not know how the factory would expand
just don't scare of rebuilding it

[real shale]

Nope

[deep sapphire]

Ok ty!

[soft marsh]

Played a bit of satisfactory in VR

The scale is wild - I never realized how large the machines are. Can't find the screenshots I took or I'd share them

[real shale]

Nah

[sick falcon]

is ur banner from borderlands

[real shale]

I actually don't know, I think it is, might be presequel from the looks of it, I just yoinked it from somewhere

[sick falcon]

how many more hard drives are there than needed

[real shale]

I think like.....8? Or something

[wary falcon]

maybe im smoking something but bro, i have 600 into a train and the train is outputting a constand 1600 am i missing smth or is that normal

[real shale]

5 it seems, minus the ones used for the MAM research

And the one you get during Ficsmas too

[soft marsh]

Damn the screenshots just look like flatscreen photos, they dont reflect the size. Bummer.

[sick falcon]

train of leaves

[dense violet]

never look at the throughput numbers on platforms

[wary falcon]

not even looking at that, the train is just filling my storage units 24/7 no matter what it will stay full forever, and then i make both those storage units into 2x780 conveyors

[sick falcon]

does this mean i’m out of alt recipes currently

[dense violet]

I'd have to see what your set up is like but no you're not getting 1600 from 600

[dense violet]

quite possibly

[wary falcon]

maybe im not and maybe the storages are just depleting very slowly

[real shale]

Most likely, either that or you are very unlucky

[dense violet]

if they are depleting slowly doesn't mean you're getting that much in

[hearty solar]

I feel kinda obligated to ask (idk why) what is a good rate of heavy modular frames/m

[wary falcon]

i have 3 per min cuz im lazy 🙏 untill i need more ig

[hearty solar]

For some reason my brain decided I needed 10

[wary falcon]

then u need 10

[hearty solar]

lol, alr, thx!

[willow pond]

i still keep grabbing silica for glass flooring

[unkempt blade]

<@&387163995947270144> this seems like someone for you all

[willow pond]

ayup

[zenith pecan]

Oh god, was one of those huh.

[void cliff]

Never had a problem around 5-10 HMF/min. set up a blueprint for it and just copy and paste if you want, or spend dozens of hours on a bigger factory

[hearty solar]

How do you even fit it in a blueprint 😭 (I’m pretty new)

[zenith pecan]

My old save only had 11.25, then I had the clever idea of using 6 to make fuxed frames, which nuked my production haha.

[unkempt blade]

yeah the answer for all these questions is generally just "how quickly do you want to get through progress stuff"

you don't need some huge production number you'll just finish less quickly

[hearty solar]

Also what are some random side quests I could do instead of being productive…?

[hollow hemlock]

exterminate the vicious invasive slug species

[willow pond]

i'm planning on completely clearing the map of all vegetation 🤣

[unkempt blade]

factory cart skatepark

[hearty solar]

Genius

[willow pond]

just keep in mind that a lot of those kinds of things tend to want to melt your pc

[hearty solar]

My PC definitely won’t crash…

[wicked jackal]

came back to 1.1, Conveyor Throughput Monitor is unlocked through awesome shop, but how unlock it in awsome shop?

[unkempt blade]

isn't it just the same way you'd unlock anything else in the awesome shop?

[wicked jackal]

looking at which mam tree

[stoic laurel]

turned 5 limestone nodes in the dune desert into a wet concrete factory
#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

that's not the awesome shop 🙂

[hollow hemlock]

needs way more depots

[wicked jackal]

believe it is unlocked through mam and then u can buy it with awsome store

[real shale]

Don't need to unlock it through MAM should just be at the bottom of.....management I think?

[void cliff]

I did it using the default HMF recipe and some alternate recipes: encased pipe, bolted modular frames, iron pipes. Lots of power shards to get the materials in the 5x5 cube making 2 HMF/ min with 750 iron an 150 limestone

[sick falcon]

are they ever gonna buff ionized fuel

[dense violet]

no? why would they?

rocket fuel is dumb enough

[hearty solar]

Do you happen to have a screenshot…?
👉 👈

[sick falcon]

doesnt it take more power to make than it gives

[zenith pecan]

Sorry about my slow reply, my approach is here #screenshots message , built in the ass end of nowhere but with enough uploaders & buffers it'll let my construction cause the biggest concrete shocks ever and it'd take it.

[undone citrus]

That just makes your save massive

I just want to build a subway system I saw cause I hate train stations

[void cliff]

Not on me! But if you remind me when I’m home in 2 days I can send it to you. I’m currently traveling. But it was 10 smelters on the bottom level, 2 constructors on concrete, 2 on pipes, and a bunch (7?) on cast screws on the second level. Third level was just 3 assemblers (bolted plates, bolted frames, encased pipes, and the manufacturer on the third level

[dense violet]

so don't use it for power production?

[hearty solar]

Thanks! Have fun on your trip

[unkempt blade]

Not exactly I think, you're just not gaining power from converting it from rocket fuel to ionized fuel with at least one of the recipes

it's still generating more power than producing the fuel consumes

[stoic laurel]

should i put more DDs in my WC factory? i noticed you had 4 of them

[sick falcon]

what else can you use it for beyond drones

[dense violet]

jet pack? any fuel for any vehicle that takes fuel

Honestly RF should be power negative

[zenith pecan]

I can't effectively answer, it really depends on how fast and how much you build, I do a hell of a lot of mass construction in a short time, which is why mine was made to take even the heaviest shocks.

[sick falcon]

we got mr fuel hater over here damn

[stoic laurel]

i spent 60K concrete slabbing the northern beach .-. and im not done slabing it yet

[dense violet]

rocket fuel is just dumb and there's zero reason ionised should be power positive.

[void cliff]

People just like concrete slabs because they look cool in this game

[void cliff]

Yeah, I totally agree… jetpack fuel should be energy negative to refine it

[zealous urchin]

hmmmmm
ragebait or facts? call it

[real shale]

Facts

[zealous urchin]

hating on nr. 1? understandable

[dense violet]

they increased the fuel consumption and power output of fuel gens in 1.0 so people could avoid 2000 fuel gens for power
then people went lol no rf

[zealous urchin]

this is the price of balance

[dense violet]

they should have just kept fuel gens at 150mw

[void cliff]

Wish I could share an image of fractionating column products

[sick falcon]

huh i never really thought about it, even the constructors are the size of a semi truck

[zealous urchin]

but also u can look at it having huge mindcontrol potential

[unkempt blade]

yeah if it were a more similar effort to doing nuclear the power production would make more balance sense imo

[dense violet]

I mean nuclear isn't even complex. The base recipes are very straight forward. You have more but smaller steps

[zenith pecan]

You can bloody well wait until I get nuclear rolling again before trying to nerf rocket fuel.

[dense violet]

too late!

😛

[zealous urchin]

i know there are only 200iq pros here with no biases but rf ccoal loop isnt that easy as is portrayed rn

[sick falcon]

idk when rocket fuel is literally later game than nuclear it should be strong imo

[unkempt blade]

It's more steps and a larger variety of input resources. RF was waaaay easier to get going than nuclear at scale was

[zenith pecan]

Right now I'm trying to fix a nasty bug in a refinery cluster design intended for the spire coast, I've stuffed it up somewhere and my brain just isn't computing.

[unkempt blade]

nah it's pretty easy

especially compared to nuclear at scale

[dense violet]

you can shrink the inputs down with alt recipes + most of the input is still uranium which has no other use

[zealous urchin]

like so is uranium

whats the point then

complaining

[zenith pecan]

My rocket fuel uses the nitro recipe, and all the resulting compact coal waste just fuels a nearby foundry that is spewing thousands of tons of steel ingots.

[unkempt blade]

I can tell you haven't done nuclear in any serious quantity but good baiting

[deep sapphire]

Fuel

[void cliff]

Nitro rocket fuel is very easy and simple to set up, especially the more you overclock in the refining phase

Diluted packaged fuel is really fun and I recommend everyone does that in phase 3 for fun 😄

[zealous urchin]

ure b8ing rn lol

big dawg

[jaunty vault]

Hey are the train tracks directional

[void cliff]

I haven’t done factory carts in large quantities either 😭

[unkempt blade]

they're also more effort than rocket fuel is 🤣

[real shale]

Can factory carts deadlock

[dense violet]

trains can go either way - but you're better off having 2 lanes

[unkempt blade]

If you have a lot of routes in a very small area. But they'll "fix" themselves as soon as you're outside of the immediate area

[jaunty vault]

Okay, do they go right next to eachother?

[real shale]

I have very bad luck with vehicles like trucks, the last one I had killed itself by driving out of the road and into a lake

[dense violet]

if you have 2 foundations wide path , you can put the rails in the middle of both foundations
that's as close as you can make them w/o them clipping on turns

[jaunty vault]

Hm

[real shale]

I don't even know how my truck managed to do that considering the route I recorded for it was legitimately a straight line

[hollow hemlock]

the routes are just suggestions 😄

[jaunty vault]

So, am I using 1 train and just looping it between the 2 tracks? Honestly, the train stations and freight platforms are kinda confusing to me for some reason

[hardy wigeon]

don't trucks just warp back if they fall in water?

[real shale]

Nope

When the fall into water they are done and you have to reset them

That's the only case where they don't teleport

[hardy wigeon]

i could have sworn i had seen it happen but its been forever ago

[jaunty vault]

Maybe if anyone knows of any good video guides to grasp the concept of the train systems and how i should build them?

[real shale]

I still think there should be something akin to signals for trucks to avoid deadlocks but I completely understand how incredibly difficult that might be to implement

[hollow hemlock]

they should just not run into each other, forget signals, ada shouldnt allow it, it's totally inefficient to deadlock like that

it's probably too busy monitoring my attempts at exterminating the land whales and scolding me for every one or something

[soft marsh]

Yeah the mergers/splitters are big enough to live in. They’re massive.

[willow pond]

i'm always torn when it comes to setting up my power grid. i wanna put all the geysers on a separate grid dedicated to powering nodes and machines for supplying power production

[fluid crow]

I keep them on their own grid so my production chart isn't lumpy

[willow pond]

i just suck at power management and don't want to completely obliterate all production all at the same time

[languid panther]

Not sure if this is the right channel to ask (tell me where if not 🙂 ) But is there a repository of Satisfactory Modeler files anywhere? Looking for help in setting up my first Nuclear plant (1 Uranium rod per minute burn) and would love to know all the core inputs needed, I want to make it standalone, not have it take from my core materials at my main base

[dense violet]

if you mean the planner ask their discord. This is the game discord

or use another planner and just input uranium rods like so https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=3HqY26nFeUnw7ANWX26s

[fluid crow]

it's on steam or there is some other web based tools like it

[languid panther]

Ty @dense violet I looked at that planner, but its dooing something weird with the Same/Reanimated SAM, Making Sulfur and Bauxite with it, so the inputs seem not to be accurate unless I am misunderstanding something. I will bus in all reousrces from fresh nodes, so I will bring in raw Sulfur and Raw Bauxite etc.. I might not be making sense, apologies if I am not

Or do I need to adjust how that planner thinks you get sulfur/Bauxite? and then it will be accurate?

[dense violet]

uncheck SAM ore then

under 'inputs' tab

conversion recipes are base recipes so it'll use SAM ore if allowed

[languid panther]

TY!

Genuinely cheers for taking the time to answer my dumb questions

[dense violet]

you can also untick the conversion recipes by typing ( into the recipe search bar to turn them off, good if you need SAM ore for things b ut don't want conversion

[granite basalt]

do you like big train or smaller train and mutiple station ?

[dense violet]

no prob - there's a small learning curve to Tools but it's worth it

another small issue people have sometimes with it is you need to manually input uranium and plutonium waste you're making into Inputs if you need it

[dense violet]

multiple stations - many trains in one station kills platform throughput

[granite basalt]

bigger train looks cooler but I think I will pass it this time

[dense violet]

it's usually harder to pull off larger trains and run things smoothly sadly :\

[real shale]

Bigger train is a nightmare when you keep messing up which platform goes to where

[dense violet]

yeah notes are needed for that

[real shale]

Before you know it you've mixed in your uranium with your singularity cells or something

[south jackal]

Ok so ive been thinking about this for awhile now and want to hear someone elses opinion because im stuck on something.

Right now i dont have trains but when i get trains i plan completely redoing my factories to accommodate trains (big fan of trains). However what im stuck on is how i would design the new factories

1. Just build one giant factory that grows when needed and trains basically transport ingots to it

2. Have smaller scale factories arbitrarily and have those factories get ingots delivered from dedicated smelteries

3. Kinda same as 2 but factories that have componets that need crafting could request it from the line (ie smeltery smelts, factory 1 makes rods, factory 2 makes plates, factory 3 requires rods and plates... etc) <-- this one would be the most difficult without flexible logistics

4. Make everything by hand. If i pick this one i have truly lost my mind.

[dense violet]

honeslty just slap things together until you have everything unlocked. Don't bother redoing.

do your own projects once you've unlocked all your options

[granite basalt]

I can keep the order well with excel, I just don't want to make a huge station only for my copper sheet at the fifth car to match the same place at big factory

[real shale]

That's the issue, with big train, you have to have big stations everywhere to facilitate it, it's just better having small trains despite how cool it is to see a massive cargo train pass by

Also I love the bug with signals at the end of junctions right now and just how inconsistent it is

I love how it can happen to only one signal in a junction but work perfectly fine for all others lol

[granite basalt]

idk about the signals nightmare, at some point I thought I mastered it then it messed up again even setting it exactly the same I did it before

[real shale]

It's an issue right now specifically with setting them at the edge of railways on junctions

It just seems to think it's looping into itself when it's...not

[undone citrus]

They're fun

[south jackal]

I should probably mention that i have yet to get to oil on this save but right now im trying to plan ahead, so tearing stuff down is fine for now

[undone citrus]

Im currently using rails to make stop lights via clipping strategies

[real shale]

Honestly, only tear stuff down later on when you want to, work on making modular factories that make one specific thing since mega factories tend to be difficult to manage logistics wise

The game pushes you to expand outwards

[south jackal]

So that would eliminate option 1 and 4

But im still indecisive on optin 2 and 3 (yes excel hates to see me)

[real shale]

3 is guaranteed to happen late game

Theres gonna be stuff you ultimately don't have everything nearby to make

But having said that, having dedicated factories for everything is good early game since it reduces the need for factories to depend on each other

which is ultimately less of a headache when you start changing things and wondering why 5 factories stopped working

[undone citrus]

The reason I can't beat phase 3 is cause I'm always advancing in my building lmao

[real shale]

That's fine, I'm the same at phase 4 currently

[undone citrus]

First world was ass, second world a lot better, 3rd world... Maybe too much dedication.

[south jackal]

So early/mid game independent with trains transporting the ingots, late game making connected ones with factories design to make a boat load of the early items?

[undone citrus]

I've got another good 100 hours of work bare minimum to finish my basic iron parts and steel. Just the basics...

[real shale]

Also I am speaking from experience after having deleted a single power tower that caused a priority power switch to trip to my coke factory which ultimately meant my aluminium factory broke and caused me to lose aluminium for fused modular frames

And only realising a couple hours later lol

[real shale]

In most cases you won't necessarily need trains transporting anything early game but yes pretty much

[hardy wigeon]

but on the other hand trains are fun and build one ASAP

[real shale]

They are also pretty good when you unlock oil considering how far the nodes tend to be from spawn points

Looking at you...grassy fields

[hardy wigeon]

lol thats where my one train so far is

in this save

[undone citrus]

Oil isn't too bad for me in the north forest

Felt farther when I started but feels actually pretty close

[real shale]

northern forest is probably the closest to oil

[south jackal]

I wont need trains belt highways work too but trains are cooler

[undone citrus]

It's a pretty nice triangle between my base, power and oil

About a 3-4 minute round trip

[real shale]

I actually want to build third major oil-based power plant up north so I have three in different corners of the map

so I have a lot more network interconnectivity and won't end up tripping a damn fuse everytime I try to reconfigure my power grid

[sleek creek]

How do you edit the signs on a personal elevator? There is a cog when I mouse over the display. But it doesn't give me an option to change the name.

[hardy wigeon]

i was meaning to ask that myself

[real shale]

At the bottom of the buttons there's an option to edit the floor info and icon

[hardy wigeon]

oooo ty i see it

[sleek creek]

It's weird that you can only pick monochrome icons. Would like to use the object picture. And thanks!

[remote kraken]

How viable would a factory that puts everything into awesome sink for tickets to buy resources and things required for space elevator be?

[hardy wigeon]

either gonna take forever or be one big ass factory

[deep sapphire]

how do yall store ur resources in early game im having abit of a hard time storing should i js spam personal containers and store it in there

[fluid crow]

not very since they continually cost more until you need 249,501,250 points per coupon

[toxic lichen]

js use a sink for overflow from sushi belts

passive points

[granite basalt]

you don't
at some point you will need a buffer after the machine to store finished product (a storage container, you will unlock it later)
and because the resource is infinite so you just need to merge them into the machines

[toxic lichen]

storage containers unlock hella early
lowk should have it already no?

[deep sapphire]

ok ty!

[fluid crow]

tbh the last tier stuff gives you so much points not much before that is super worth it beyond what you want to use

[remote kraken]

Why in the world is a bot reacting to your stuff?

[fluid crow]

it likes coupons

[remote kraken]

Does it just do that when you say coupon?

[hardy wigeon]

apparantly lol

[fluid crow]

is my guess

[toxic lichen]

coupon

[jaunty jewel]

i love coupons

[remote kraken]

That’s an odd feature

[fluid crow]

who doesn't!

[twin parcel]

automated miner or rigor motor?

[remote kraken]

Bipride

[twin parcel]

or rescan?

[remote kraken]

Guess it only works with coupons

Aliendoggo

So weird

[twin parcel]

anyone wants coupon to epstein island? (joke)

[remote kraken]

I don’t think you need the indicator

Speaking of Epstein, did you know that apparently he’s part of the reason why cod points are called CP?

and he helped push micro transactions to “indoctrinate kids into the economy” direct quote

[twin parcel]

"i have 500 CP" , hmm that sounds wrong without context .

[toxic lichen]

you playing with fire

[remote kraken]

That stuff’s hot

[twin parcel]

any ideas? which alternate recipe is best or should i just rescan?

[remote kraken]

Are all miners not automated?

Oh, it’s an alternate recipe

I am very slow

[twin parcel]

u create portable miners in assembler , thats why the recipe is called automated miner

[remote kraken]

What’s rigor motor for?

[twin parcel]

it uses crystal oscillator , rotor and stator

[fluid crow]

since you barely need any miners total I'm sayen not that one

[remote kraken]

I’d say either go for the miners or rescan

But it’s not that hard to make them by hand before putting down a big miner

[twin parcel]

how much miners do people use to a point where automated miners can be considered?

[dense violet]

I mean once you have miner buildings you don't really

[twin parcel]

hmm , i just rescan then

[fluid crow]

they are mostly for building miners or collecting things early on but there's only so many nodes on the map

[twin parcel]

dam my luck is trash

[fluid crow]

just sit on it so you don't get either of those again next time

[twin parcel]

#screenshots uh what u guys think? or should i rescan?

[twin parcel]

so i just open all drives and dont pick them?

that works'

[fluid crow]

is a good strategy if you want the most options

I wouldn't pick unless you immediately want to use it or you want both skills

that reminds me better scan another hard drive 😭

[deep sapphire]

how does coal production work i js unlocked it

[fluid crow]

coal+water

[deep sapphire]

coal node?

[fluid crow]

yea

[feral tartan]

I NEED HELP IM STUCK IN A TUBE CENTRIFUGE

[deep sapphire]

Ok ty

[feral tartan]

IT WONT STOP

[toxic lichen]

you will spin for your crimes

[feral tartan]

THE SPLIT OFF ISNT WORKING

[fluid crow]

find a node then you probably want to bring the coal to the water so less pipes

[toxic lichen]

you spin me right round

[feral tartan]

IT WAS MEANT FOR A CANNON

[toxic lichen]

i recommend the blue crater of to the right side of the map

[feral tartan]

ITS EPPILEPTIC

[deep sapphire]

coal is in the back of my factory but the water is abit far

theres 2 normal coal nodes around the water too and 1 pure in the back of my factory

[toxic lichen]

blue crater has plenty of water and 3 normal nodes clustered together

[feral tartan]

ok its fixed, i saved a loaded

👍

[deep sapphire]

wheres that im in grassy fields

[sweet light]

ADA: whip slash Get back to work!

[toxic lichen]

off to the right of the map

not super far from grassy

but a small trek

[deep sapphire]

found it its abit far but not that much i should be able to get it here ty!

[feral tartan]

when do ADA and ????? kiss

[fluid crow]

I might go with the 2 by the water to start but up to you

[twin parcel]

check #screenshots

got another recipe

[severe pewter]

So uh..... Just found out that apparently the hypertube speed wasn't as limited as I thought. It just takes forever to accelerate now.

[feral tartan]

guess who also just found that out

[twin parcel]

josh

[deep sapphire]

that one is easier to get to then the blue crater should i use those first and then when factory gets bigger go to blue crater

[toxic lichen]

i built it at blue and js
forgot about it
but i need to go back to set up oil stuff

[feral tartan]

he found that out a while ago

[deep sapphire]

lmao

[severe pewter]

How'd you find out? I just ran a loop with a splitter

#screenshots message

[feral tartan]

same but the splitter isnt working

[severe pewter]

You have to spam E

[fluid crow]

unless you want to go on a big journey I would use what's close, the blue crater is nice I'm sure you'll end up there at some point

[toxic lichen]

those leg things

blue crater is pretty close with bhopping

[severe pewter]

I do think it gave me an achievement for reaching space needle height though
yes it did

[toxic lichen]

i got one from flying at a certain speed because a alpha hog sent me flying off a cliff to my death

[deep sapphire]

yeah im thinking rn most prob blue crater since the road is straight forward

its only abit more far than the other one

[fluid crow]

I've found you have to make sure he circle is big enough to not get stuck

at high speeds

or the pipe leading to the splitter

[fluid crow]

is where I got my power now

[severe pewter]

Idk, long as I spam E hard enough, it throws me out eventually. But that thing is dangerous

[feral tartan]

#satisfactory-memes message

[toxic lichen]

found it

it was move faster than 140km/h

guess an alpha hog was sufficient

[feral tartan]

help

[feral tartan]

it worked

[toxic lichen]

how does one "Pet the flying manta"

[fluid crow]

E

[toxic lichen]

i see
i js gotta get up

can someone give me uppies
I wanna pet it

[severe pewter]

"Is this Rush E?"

[feral tartan]

look at my clip\

[severe pewter]

Hwere?

[fluid crow]

I climbed a ladder to max altitude it was huge from grass fields

[toxic lichen]

forgot the ladder exists

[feral tartan]

#satisfactory-memes message

[twin parcel]

#screenshots which one

[granite basalt]

bigger output one

[short fiber]

Is there any reverse satisfactiory calculator. I wanna find out how many of an object (ex encased beams) I can make from 120 iron and 120 concrete

Poorly explained

[severe pewter]

@feral tartan My little monstrosity btw:

#screenshots message

[frigid juniper]

I would extend the left side so that you have more time to press e (I have also done some hyper tube shananigans)

[hybrid nymph]

All I have to say is one thing. When I had no friends and no one for me You guys were here, you were supportive, and you were nice to me. Thank you so much for everything you guys have done for me ❤️ You guys are like family to me ❤️

I feel so accepted and welcome here. When everybody else was mean to me and told me I was stupid, you guys were here and you supported me

I cannot thank you enough.

[deep sapphire]

i have decided the blue crater is where im going

[severe pewter]

This is probably a good time to ask too: will you clip through walls if travelling too fast?

[toxic lichen]

we dont call people stupid
because we ourselves
are inherently stupid ;-;

[fluid crow]

it's a good choice 👍

[deep sapphire]

yep

[toxic lichen]

you can progress to rocketfuel no problem in blue

[deep sapphire]

o

W

[hybrid nymph]

I gave up on Facebook. I thought people were supposed to get more mature as they age, I guess I was completely wrong... People are treating me exactly the goddamn same that they did when I was growing up. They treated me like I'm stupid and like nothing I say matters. I think I'm going to take a break from Facebook for about 2 weeks

[frigid juniper]

I have no idea I haven’t had it happen but it could happen idk what I do know is the very top of the space elevator is 3d and has a hit box

[hybrid nymph]

I went to college for 6 years, I deserve to be treated better than this. I deserve to be respected, valued, and treated like a normal person. Not treated like dirt and told that I'm stupid,

[feral tartan]

Strongest shape

[deep sapphire]

what happened

[toxic lichen]

i mean
go fast enough your atoms just
phase through the walls
ez pz

[severe pewter]

No no, I'm not doing anything like that, I'm converting the exit into a tube with a wall at the backside. But walls don't mean anything if I clip through

[hybrid nymph]

I was just being bullied by people that are Republicans, and told that because I don't support Trump that makes me a socialist, and that everything I say is wrong and that I'm stupid because of it

I am done with people that are Republicans and people that don't respect others that have higher academic credentials than them. I see absolutely no reason to interact with these people ever again in my life

[deep sapphire]

yeah man ignore them focus on yourself

[hybrid nymph]

I deserve better than this, I didn't use 1/5 of my life going to college to be treated like this

And yes I'm 30 years old...

[deep sapphire]

dang

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you, you're very kind to me. I really appreciate you 🙏❤️

[surreal rose]

little advice, don't respect people unless you can see that they respect you

[hybrid nymph]

That's a very good way to live

[deep sapphire]

true

[hybrid nymph]

Why should I give other people respect when they wouldn't do the same thing for me?

[surreal rose]

thanks

but learned it hard way

[hybrid nymph]

At this point I feel like being nice is just something stupid people do to hinge their bets...

[hybrid nymph]

I get it, I really do. If I had a dollar for every time I've been told that I'm stupid, I would be a millionaire

[surreal rose]

dayum

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you for being here for me you guys

You know what? I think after I get back from work tomorrow, I'm going to play this game, Satisfactory again

That would make me happy 😁

[surreal rose]

nice choice

from work to work

[hybrid nymph]

Yuppers

I just got a job at Amazon

[surreal rose]

nice

[hybrid nymph]

Finally found a job

Being disabled and all

[toxic lichen]

may i ask
what disables you e'-e'

[hybrid nymph]

Finally somewhere that gave me a chance

Autism, extreme stress, adhd

[deep sapphire]

WW

[deep sapphire]

Dang

[hybrid nymph]

It's so damn hard getting hired when you have special needs 😕

[surreal rose]

thats might be one of worst combos i've ever seen

good luck man

[deep sapphire]

real

[hybrid nymph]

Because they always find someone "better than you"

[deep sapphire]

bros fighting through allat your strong dont give up

[severe pewter]

Perchance would you like an ascii emote?
(V)(´°w° )(V)

[hybrid nymph]

I applied to over 200 f****** jobs and I only got 6 calls back

[toxic lichen]

ooooooooooo

yoink

[severe pewter]

I can find you a bunch more

I rather like this one
O O
..||_||__.
/ (><)
\ (><) /
// / (/) (/) \ \
/ \ \ / / \

Had to mess with the second line a bit though, Discord kept converting the characters to something else

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'
would you like my first born named after you

[hybrid nymph]

Only 6 places that called me back were: Petco, Best Buy, Amazon, Target, Crate and Barrel, and Spencer's

[surreal rose]

[ivory condor]

The answer is simple, you don't, treat them the same as the way they treat you, they deserve it by the sounds of it.

[hybrid nymph]

Petco told me they found someone else, Spencer's said the same thing, Best buy said they had a place for me in home theater, I know nothing about TVs, target had a cashier job, I hate working with constant people, and Amazon pays the highest and I don't have to interact with anyone, so Amazon it is!

[ivory condor]

I say in this case, a eye for a eye is justified, people want to treat others like dirt, deserve nothing less than being treated like dirt as well

[toxic lichen]

the child is beautiful

[gloomy tusk]

Back to school so less free time to play 😭

[toxic lichen]

e'-'e
i speak for the trees

[gloomy tusk]

How’s your factory going

[hybrid nymph]

Enuff about my issues, just thank you for being here for me and being so supportive

[surreal rose]

does anyone knows how can i focus on one goal until i reach it? i always switch goals until i reach the point of start

[hybrid nymph]

I love you guys and you were here for me when I had no friends

[toxic lichen]

uhhhhhh
not good ;-;

started working on my license
so less time to play as well

[gloomy tusk]

Drivers license

Oh man I can’t spell

[toxic lichen]

made an iron facility
but as the night wore on
it became a mess

[toxic lichen]

yur

[deep sapphire]

literally my problem too twin

[hybrid nymph]

Just select the milestone and do everything you can to focus on that one objective no matter how much work it takes, I have done play session after play session and got absolutely nothing done, satisfactory is one of those types of games where you can play for hours and feel like you accomplish nothing, just like Minecraft

[gloomy tusk]

The factory will always be here

And the pioneers that support it

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you so much

[surreal rose]

thanks

[hybrid nymph]

It might take a while, maybe even 10 hours but you can do it

[surreal rose]

now i need to choose one...

[toxic lichen]

try atm

[gloomy tusk]

Is this better guys? #screenshots

[ivory condor]

No problem, but really you can block and ignore these people on facebook, sounds like people you dont need in your life or deserve to have in your life anyways

[hybrid nymph]

I'm at about 113 hours on this save. And I just got to Tier 8 barely

[gloomy tusk]

Teach me your ways

[hybrid nymph]

Thank you, yeah I should start doing that

[hybrid nymph]

Sure, what do you want to know?

[surreal rose]

fabric for gas masks, more cat wires for hmf and after finish hmf, railway signalling, research or explore

[gloomy tusk]

How to progress faster I’m 300+ hours in and only like tier 8

This is my first run

[deep sapphire]

im around 13 hours in my first run i just got to coal production

[toxic lichen]

13?

i was at like
60 ;-;

[deep sapphire]

💀

[surreal rose]

just look what you need, make some of it even if it takes a couple hours and after go on next resource

[toxic lichen]

im still on coal
Save is uhhh
150ish now

[gloomy tusk]

But I try to automate everything

[deep sapphire]

holy so im gonna be with coal for a while

[hybrid nymph]

That's probably why, it took me nearly 180 hours to reach Tier 8 on my first playthrough

Because I had no idea what I was doing

[toxic lichen]

no
i just get distracted easily

[deep sapphire]

oh

[surreal rose]

don't untill really needed✌️

[toxic lichen]

adhd doesnt help my case ;-;

[deep sapphire]

😭

[ivory condor]

Of course, while I understand having different views, disrespect is something I personally have zero tolerance for as well

[toxic lichen]

but
when i lock in on something
i can atleast work until it is done ;-;

[gloomy tusk]

Goodbye people I am going to watch fallout and eat ice cream

[toxic lichen]

share?

[deep sapphire]

o

[gloomy tusk]

Never

[deep sapphire]

welp

[toxic lichen]

i spent 6 hours straight on 1 thing

[deep sapphire]

dayum

[gloomy tusk]

Have you pulled an all nighter yet?

[toxic lichen]

many
but i started working on having a normal sleep schedule for when i go back into the job seeking ;-;

[hybrid nymph]

I have, several times

I once played the game for 12 hours straight in one place session

I started at 8:00 p.m. and then I played until 8:00 a.m.

[deep sapphire]

im 4 hours in today with abit of afking im prob js gonna leave it on while i go outside

[hybrid nymph]

And if you're curious I did get stuff done, I set up my entire rail network and expanded my coal plant and expanded my oil plant

[toxic lichen]

im afking rn while going through my studying

[deep sapphire]

holy

[frigid juniper]

i would prob if my frendo didnt get off (he hosts the world)

[deep sapphire]

W

[deep sapphire]

rip

[hybrid nymph]

Okay I'm going to go to bed with my girlfriend

I'll catch you all tomorrow after work

[toxic lichen]

make him get on
this is the ficsit way
he will be purged

[deep sapphire]

cya

[hybrid nymph]

Cya 👋☺️

[frigid juniper]

its 3 am for us

[deep sapphire]

millions must afk on their factories

[hybrid nymph]

Thanks for being so nice to me

[frigid juniper]

but i do want to grow the factory

[toxic lichen]

so?
thats inefficient

[severe pewter]

The tube needs more speed

[deep sapphire]

nvm figured it out

[short fiber]

If i build over or around where hostiles spawn will they stop spawning there?

[fluid crow]

I think powered stuff keeps them away

[short fiber]

Yippe!

[toxic lichen]

can confirm
took down miners
hogs came back

[fluid crow]

in any case if you have a factory there they go away

except the damn land whales

they never give up

[deep sapphire]

FR

[leaden turret]

emphasis on powered stuff

if you have a powercut that overlaps a respawn cycle.....

[short fiber]

Ah, so keep power on or else I get mauled

[leaden turret]

surprise

[fluid crow]

so is it stuff that's running?

[toxic lichen]

no
idont think

had miners that were powered by no doing anything
took em dow
came back
hogs

whos eating my letters

:(
i want em back

[fluid crow]

so machines maybe

[toxic lichen]

machines
or man made stuff yea

seems to be the case

[fluid crow]

seems like they still spawn by power poles maybe idk

[mortal ginkgo]

my assumption is a machine needs to be there at least powered once to prevent monster spawn. They also despawn the present enemies too if they are not chasing you. I saw a Stinger simply get removed from game once.

However if the building is removed, they almost immediately spawn back (especially if you are far away).

Poles etc do not count as "powered machines" and so are decorations. However one might be fortunate enough to put one right at a spawn point of an animal which might prevent it from spawning (assuming it doesn't have another place that it can spawn on).

[fluid crow]

thanks for the info!

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> baby troll trolling babily

[toxic lichen]

not helping your case

[short fiber]

I made 432 storage space brick BP :3

[toxic lichen]

a wot

thats
18?
big containers right?

[short fiber]

9 storage containers equally connected and stackable in any direction.

[toxic lichen]

e'-e'

[short fiber]

Big ones

[toxic lichen]

oh i skipped a step in my math

or added one

[sweet light]

Is there a limit to how many blueprints can be made?

[toxic lichen]

i used to be good at quick maths
something broke years ago

[short fiber]

Oh it always breaks eventually

Sometimes you can start it back up but its temporary

[toxic lichen]

lasted me through highschool
it served its purpose

[severe pewter]

If you understand a thing, you never need to memorize it; if you memorize a thing, it will eventually become forgotten

The thing with understanding is, you can forget, but still reverse-engineer from the basics using the understanding

[deep sapphire]

fire writing

🥶

[gloomy tusk]

Whyyy

[hybrid nymph]

Because I felt like it

And it was fun

[toxic lichen]

how was the ice cream selfish one

[deep sapphire]

why not

[toxic lichen]

you guys summoned him

dont be shy e'-e'

[sturdy jacinth]

any reason im not spawning with 20 iron in skyblock?

[leaden turret]

?

[deep sapphire]

theres skyblock for this?

wonder how they pulled that off

[sturdy jacinth]

very cool

just not sure what im doing wrong

[deep sapphire]

o