satisfactory

[quasi warren]

I needed that for the steel plant i wanted to make

[chrome cloud]

parachute/gas filters is when i can really go on a real hard drive collection run

[mortal ginkgo]

you dont have parachute yet?

[versed cosmos]

jetpack i feel is necessary for a big hard drive run

[mortal ginkgo]

oh you said very early.

[chrome cloud]

No, I started in the forest so no mycelia nearby, need to go a bit out

[quasi warren]

100% agree with this

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, with homming rifle gun

and cluster nobelisk

[sick falcon]

useless item

[chrome cloud]

third start

[mortal ginkgo]

oi oi oi oi

[chrome cloud]

i like parachute and zipline a lot for mobility

[quasi warren]

Nah. Not to me

Its not single use. (thank god that changed.)

[chrome cloud]

like it doesn't just dampen your fall speed, you can close gaps real good and gain some height

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean.. you can even go up with parachute

[quasi warren]

Somehow.

[chrome cloud]

it's a paraglider, not just a parachute

[mortal ginkgo]

Unreal Engine physics are not to be questioned.

[chrome cloud]

so the tech is obvious

[mortal ginkgo]

ok thats a cope of high reachness 😛

[sick falcon]

you can? i thought it was just for breaking falls

[mortal ginkgo]

there are tricks for that yes

[versed cosmos]

run into a slope while parachuting

[sick falcon]

i’ve never actually used it i’m just hating to hate

[versed cosmos]

yeah i never use parachute

[quasi warren]

I did this with pulse nobelisks.

I went FLYING

[versed cosmos]

yea pulse nobelisk is rlly good

could do that with parachute before u get the jetpack

[ornate saffron]

The amount of mobility options in satisfactory is really good

[quasi warren]

Blade runners + bhopping + ionized fuel jetpack

[ornate saffron]

Plus zipline as it conserves momentum

Zipline jet pack dropkick back on zipline. Repeat

[quasi warren]

ZIPLINE CONSERVES MOMENTUM?? oh hell yes

[lilac bear]

Ladders and a parachute will get you everywhere.

I definitely recommend having blade runners and nobelisks.

[lilac bear]

You need it too, big map.

[ornate saffron]

Power towers around the map to carry my power and segregate my grid using power priority switches doubles as a zipline to everywhere

[quasi warren]

I never use power switches- should I start using them??

[lilac bear]

Yes, removing the single use nonsense greatly improved it.

[white dawn]

If you like. The Priority Power Switches in particular are quite handy if you want protection from power trips, etc.

[twin parcel]

oh i already have steel factory somewhere at north , im just gonna use tractors to transport them

[ornate saffron]

I like the power priority switches. I set factories that are a pain to black start aluminum, and fuel are good examples to the highest priority. Think I s way low priority factories shut off if you go over your max power.

You can also use them to turn factories on and off remotely

[versed cosmos]

no need. just build enough power so your grid never gets close to crashing

[white dawn]

I tend to not use them due to the hoverpack bug, though -- if you're in a hoverpack and it switches getting its power from one grid to a different one (as with two "sides" of a switch), machines on one of the sides will temporarily go idle

[quasi warren]

... so basically keep doing what I usually do? map wide power grid?

[ornate saffron]

Ive been told this but I have e yet to experience it.

[versed cosmos]

ive heard putting a battery on the grid stops that but idk ive never experienced it myself

[versed cosmos]

yes

[lilac bear]

Yea, that's an annoying bug keeping me away from switches as well. Besides, if you make sure you always have enough power they're not really a necessity. They can be helpful though.

[white dawn]

It's honestly not that big of a deal, but it can be annoying when you're keeping an eye on a freshly-built factory and wondering why things aren't running at 100% efficiency. :D

[quasi warren]

I tend to put a geothermal gen on EVERY geyser i find. And always connect them to power

[lilac bear]

It's free power, ofc you should.

[white dawn]

Free power which makes your power "production" line messy to a degree that some folks might not want. :)

[lilac bear]

Pffft, put a few batteries on it and only look at the lowest line 🙂

[white dawn]

Power Storage doesn't affect the power graph at all

I generally like to know that if I see any dip in my Production line, it's due to something going wrong with my gens, not geothermal fluctuations. I do sometimes use geothermal on isolated power networks though

[ornate saffron]

Oh ya,ziplining around the map connecting them all is fun

[vestal hill]

Until you get to late game that extra power is always welcome

[white dawn]

(I realize that once you start using trains, a "perfectly flat" Production line is impossible, though those fluctuations are rarely noticeable)

[quasi warren]

I just care for capacity, should I focus on power production?

[white dawn]

Honestly I somewhat disagree, even with the extra geysers added in v1.0. The extra power you get is kind of dwarfed by your own power generation at that point

[zenith sage]

Do I need buffers for drone ports like for trains?

[vestal hill]

Yeah but until you’re done with phase 3 it makes enough power to be relevant

[ornate saffron]

I saw the other day someone shared a screen shot of there designed 5000000mw power grid and it was 4999998mw. And they were like "who stole my 2MW" lol Im still laughing about it

[vestal hill]

Oh yeah I saw that too, thought it was hilarious

[quasi warren]

Should I be only caring for capacity? Or power production, im lost ngl

[vestal hill]

For what?

[white dawn]

If your power is anemic enough that you need the geothermal power, IMO you should really just be building more "real" power instead. :)

[lilac bear]

No, but it allows you to make the most out of the geysers.

[quasi warren]

The power grid in general. I usually only focus on capacity

[hazy topaz]

Yall should i automate iron plate, iron rod, screw and reinforced iron plate production on 3 MK1 Normal Iron nodes?

[lilac bear]

A few geysers are cheap free power. If you don't want to use that gift, don't. Everyone has their own game.

[ornate saffron]

After you are off of biogenerators production and capacity are essentially the same unless you use power storage and even then what is stored is limited if you are always tapping it

[weary condor]

As in a large coal power plant

[quasi warren]

So its the same... good to know.

[ornate saffron]

Before priority switches id make a storage bank to black start a power plant in the event I lost power for some reason.

[weary condor]

Yeah pretty much

[weary condor]

Where are priority switches unlocked again I forgot

[white dawn]

Unless you're doing crash site scavenging to get them "early," you can't really build out any geothermal until Phase 4. :)

[quasi warren]

Caterium tree i think

[versed cosmos]

caterium tree in the mam

[ornate saffron]

Mam caterium

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Priority_Power_Switch

[white dawn]

(I'm honestly not trying to convince anyone to stop using geothermal if they want to, of course! I'm just arguing that the gains are awfully anemic for where you tend to be when you unlock 'em)

[weary condor]

Tyall🙏🙏

[vestal hill]

True I forgot about that, you can theoretically skip coal power entirely if you go scavenging early enough though

[lilac bear]

As long as you still have a coal plant somewhere, you can kickstart it easily with a bio generator. But a decoupled yet charged powerbank somewhere is a great fallback.

[versed cosmos]

geothermal really should be unlocked after coal but before oil

[ornate saffron]

Ive done that. I skipped coal for the hell of it. Zipped around the map getting every geo node

[white dawn]

My own hot take is honestly that geothermal just shouldn't even exist. :D

[versed cosmos]

oil just blows every other power source out of the park

[weary condor]

My current save is with a friend and they’re on rn doing stuff and ran into some power issues

[mortal ginkgo]

with a tiny fair amount of searching around, you can actually unlock them at Coal Stage with what you find around + doggos bringing goodies.

[lilac bear]

I like the free energy, shush.

[versed cosmos]

for the work and time put into it oil can easily make more power than nuclear

[prime stratus]

yo can someone helop me out im in phase 2 (i think) and lost as hell

[mortal ginkgo]

but yeah, they are kinda lackluster if you get them at phase 3.

[versed cosmos]

yeah sure. what are you struggling with?

[lilac bear]

What's the problem?

[white dawn]

Oh, I'm aware, but IMO that's a fairly meta strategy which the majority of players aren't gonna discover

[versed cosmos]

just from memory phase 2 is when you get coal and steel right?

[ornate saffron]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah definitely a beginner will go "lolwot" with the power they give at phase 3, where fuel just outperforms

[white dawn]

I mostly just don't like what that free energy does to my power lines on the graph. :) That's the real cost to geothermal, IMO. :D

[versed cosmos]

so dovy ur gonna want to get coal power asap so you dont have to keep picking up leaves all the time

[prime stratus]

mostly on how to make better factories and now im trying to figure out coal power but im strugling with that...

[ornate saffron]

Geothermal is like sulfer. You can completely ignore it and do fine

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[versed cosmos]

8 coal generators and either 3 water extractors at 100% or 4 at 75%

and check the thing above

[ornate saffron]

Saw that coming lol

[lilac bear]

Obligatory reference for the situation.

[mortal ginkgo]

noooo its cool, also extra power with.. with.. with...

[ornate saffron]

Anyone have a list of bot commands. I know of the !wikisearch but thats it

[manic pivot]

i jus unlocked coal and the nearest coal node from my main factory is 680m 😐

[versed cosmos]

that's nearby

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, thats the idea. Make coal power there, send it via power cables

[versed cosmos]

BUT dont just go to coal. go to water

[prime stratus]

rn im running on 15 biomass burners

[manic pivot]

cant find it

[ornate saffron]

That's pretty close.

[versed cosmos]

explore

[lilac bear]

Where are you?

[ornate saffron]

Where did you start

[white dawn]

Welcome to the first of many times the game will be encouraging you to expand + explore. It's a huge map, with a lot of resources! Go explore, build factories in exotic locales, make friends with the local wildlife. :)

[versed cosmos]

yeah you need coal power asap lol

[manic pivot]

idfk

[lilac bear]

Share a screenshot here https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057 and we'll tell you where you are.

[ornate saffron]

You are Kirk on a star trek. If you aren't sticking your rebar into strange objects you ain't doing it right

[ornate saffron]

Grasslands is the standard start

[quasi warren]

I remember I did one save where I didnt do coal power. Ran off of 60 bio generators for a while

[lilac bear]

Honestly, some of us have memorized the starting areas and you can't be that far off.

[manic pivot]

yes that

[lilac bear]

There's coal and water to your northwest.

[versed cosmos]

i think a lot of us have the whole map memorised lol

[ornate saffron]

@lilac bear will give you the coordinates for coal lake lol

[quasi warren]

I know i do XD

I know what the map looks like. I dont know the distance between things tho

[manic pivot]

btw what does power slug do

[prime stratus]

but i only have one coal miner that makes 120 a minute and lowk idk if it will be enough?

[versed cosmos]

it's exactly enough

1 coal generator takes 15 coal/min

[quasi warren]

Honestly I just love the aesthetics of the geothermal gens. The power is just a small bonus

[versed cosmos]

the game tells u all this btw

geothermal gens look and sound aweesome

just a shame theyre bad

[lilac bear]

@manic pivot You started in that circle. Get to the arrow. #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

@prime stratus for better layouts and decore tips go to #designfor math related go to #math-and-meta

For deep dives on a specific thing lets say coal logistics for building power plants. I promise there is a million posts in #1038092680493801533 if your scenario isn't found make a new post ^-^ we are happy to help

[quasi warren]

#screenshots message I IMMEDIATELY recognized this place, and knew right where coal was XD

[manic pivot]

thats on the other side of the map......

[ornate saffron]

I wish I could place them and have the animation run off of nodes. I wana incase them to make decorations

[versed cosmos]

that is NOT on the other side of the map

that's genuinely nearby

[quasi warren]

Yeah. It is CLOSE

[lilac bear]

Nah, that's really close.

[versed cosmos]

don't be afraid to explore and expand. you will use the whole map eventually. trying to do everything in one place will make your game so much harder

[lilac bear]

More accurate: #screenshots message

The northern edge of the ground (not counting the sea) is at least 6x that distance away from the coal. Possibly more.

The map is much bigger than you think.

[versed cosmos]

⁨@manic pivot⁩ scan for coal

itll ping where you need to go

[lilac bear]

Yup, there's going to be 4 of them close together, can't miss it from grass.

You're facing east #screenshots message here, but you need to look north northwest.

There is a compas at the top of your screen.

[lost rapids]

Good morning

( its 6pm )

[versed cosmos]

relatable

[lilac bear]

Do you know where to go now? @manic pivot

[versed cosmos]

he got it

[lilac bear]

Yes, #screenshots message is the right place.

There is a slope to your right @manic pivot

You can walk up and down to the coal there.

[manic pivot]

yeah

theres hella coal here

[lilac bear]

Yup. 3 freely accessible, 1 hidden under rocks. You'll need to blow up the rock with nobelisks for the 4th one, but you can easily get started on the first 3.

[versed cosmos]

build in blocks of 8 generators

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[lilac bear]

^ coal plans for beginners

[lost rapids]

:3

[manic pivot]

yeah HOW TF AM I GONNA TRANSPORT FROM ALLAT DISTANCE

[lilac bear]

Don't.

You transport the power, not the coal.

[versed cosmos]

you dont need to bring everything back to one place

[manic pivot]

still

[quasi warren]

Using power lines

[lost rapids]

Use ender chest

[versed cosmos]

power lines are the easiest thing to build long lines of

[lost rapids]

My bad wrong game!

[manic pivot]

i like having my machines close to my hub

[versed cosmos]

okay youre not gonna be able to do that king

[zenith pecan]

Looks like my oil setup for the spire will be my first major use of blueprints, each refinery stack seems like it'll fit into two prints, should simplify me chewing up all spire oil.

[lilac bear]

Yea, you're not going to do that with power generators.

[quasi warren]

^

[mortal ginkgo]

Coal is there to lure you otherwise. Its a nice step to go out of your comfy hub.

[lilac bear]

With fuel it's even worse and with nuclear you actually don't want your uranium close to your hub.

[mortal ginkgo]

Some mid to late game resources are a bit... far away... and in odd places.

[versed cosmos]

for some perspective i have most of my stuff in the rocky desert and im building aluminium in the swamp

im setting up a power grid there because id rather do that than run power across the entire map

[lost rapids]

Love your name. is that a Fortnite reference ?

[versed cosmos]

literally east and west coasts

[lilac bear]

I like global power.

[mortal ginkgo]

Alpha 100% pure gigachad males always carry a stack of uranium without rad filters, to send a message, to show we live in a society, to prove a point, to make a statement, to tell a truth, to fight for the weak.

[ashen belfry]

I did that for most things. Wasn't nice. Although close to hub is kinda wrong because the machine furthest away was like 2-3km away. But still on the same connected platform

[versed cosmos]

did you just build a big concrete slab in the sky

[ashen belfry]

Not sky
On the water

[mortal ginkgo]

Here is a funny thing to keep in mind:

One can ACTUALLY finish the game very close to hub in one zone that has ALL resources but one (Quartz), it is the Swamp.

Kek.

[quasi warren]

I wana just slab the entire dune desert.

[ashen belfry]

West side of the map

[night sail]

I have finally unlocked coal powernow I am thinking to completely destroy my current factory and move near coal ores how difficult would that be ?

[versed cosmos]

made up for by the evil that lives there

[quasi warren]

You can just transfer power using power lines, no need to move close to it

[lilac bear]

Don't forget to nuke the spiders.

[versed cosmos]

also there's quartz just northwest of the swamp lol

[lilac bear]

Difficult? Not at all.

[night sail]

Yeah but nearest coal area is too far

[mortal ginkgo]

If you really want to do it, do it in small chunks. Start by rebuilding iron stuff. etc

[ashen belfry]

Keep the machines running, transfer the energy to your plant. Bring the coal to the water

[quasi warren]

Then use powerlines to bring power from one area to the next

[versed cosmos]

how many time do we have to tell new players that you wont have everything all in one place

[quasi warren]

Seems to be a lot

[lilac bear]

Everything you dismantle you get the resources back. So it's just a lot of running back and forth. Slightly easier if you at least got a tractor to carry some of the parts.

[ashen belfry]

Which you need coal for

[lilac bear]

Ofcourse you first make a small coal plant before you start doing that or you'll have to mine all the coal with portable miners.

It's not difficult at all.

Just not a lot of fun for most people either.

And whatever you do, don't put your factory where you need to put your coal power generators and water extractors or you'll be doing a lot of extra work on top of the extra work.

Unless you like doing that kind of thing.

[mortal ginkgo]

Put everything in the same place, literally. Just go FULL vertical.

Fight against the system, make a massive vertical tower.

[lilac bear]

No fun with fluids, but for everything else... Not too bad an idea.

Bit dangerous early game if you don't have parachute etc.

[mortal ginkgo]

package fluids and send 😛

[lost rapids]

Uhh my sink hit the 32 bits integer limit.

[mortal ginkgo]

it only looks like it does. you are not losing any point gains

[lilac bear]

Pics or didn't happen.

[lost rapids]

#screenshots

[lilac bear]

Epic

[lost rapids]

What does afking missiles does to a game :

80M pts per coupon is wild

[lilac bear]

Missiles?

[lost rapids]

Ballistic warp drive

[night sail]

Hmm okay makes sense

[lilac bear]

Ah, well, those are worth a boatload of points.

Almost 3 million each.

[lost rapids]

Just dropped my entire stock, around 6k.

[lilac bear]

That will net you well over 2 trillion points, yea.

[frosty mirage]

Is there a way to do HMFs only with iron?

[versed cosmos]

no youre gonna need at least limestone too

[lilac bear]

Iron and limestone isn't a bad deal.

[frosty mirage]

Thats perfect

[versed cosmos]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=C7xiGpC8fxLNVt86LO41

go for that

[frosty mirage]

I have a shitload of iron available and also limestone

[hidden pebble]

Use some water if you're trying to make a lot

[mortal ginkgo]

Refinery Spam PTSD Flashbacks...

[lilac bear]

Screenshot for future reference: #screenshots message

[versed cosmos]

although i use cast screw idk why it wasnt already selected

[frosty mirage]

I need to check the alts i have

[versed cosmos]

steeled frame is another good alt that pairs well with what i shared

[lilac bear]

Once you got the basis down, it's a matter of optimizing.

[wary falcon]

may someone explain to me why when i middle click a pipe that is recoloured with swatches, the new pipe i place has the regular coloured flow meter, (orange thingy usually in the center of the pipes)

[sick falcon]

does that shit say 2 billion

[lost rapids]

YES.

[sick falcon]

god it’s the worst

use clean pipes to avoid it

[white dawn]

It's just the display number that's capped, btw -- the actual point ingestion will be giving you the "proper" amount

[lost rapids]

Ikr :P

I gained 18B points, pretty happy

[wary falcon]

but clean pipes feel weird cuz they are missing the thingy 😭

[sick falcon]

agreed, i dont use them and just manually paint the pipes after placing

[wary falcon]

fair lol

[timid jetty]

Hello!

[sick falcon]

hi

[ornate saffron]

\

[manic pivot]

aint got enough for allat

also how do i combine all those 8 generators into one power line

[prime stratus]

where do i find water???

[fading crow]

you basically find any water you can find on the map?

[wispy tundra]

hey, hello people 🙂
somewhat new player here, 100h in atm. About half of those were building and rebuilding over and over again my reinforced iron plate factory, tho...

[lilac bear]

Multiple power poles ofcourse.

Do you have poles mk 1 or 2?

[wet cloak]

Bread

[lilac bear]

Assuming mk 1, 2 on each pole. connect the poles together.

[ornate saffron]

daisy chain poles together like christmas lights

[scenic mirage]

why rebuild it? why not just build another factory

[ornate saffron]

i second this

[unkempt blade]

I think you should build the exact same factory as the first one except do it in the air over their original

[manic pivot]

1

[wispy tundra]

cuz I don't wanna keep ugly designs hah

I'm at that point where I don't wanna have my factories as just production lines on the open floor, and instead building actual buildings

[warm agate]

Hey guys, i think i have a bug but not sure, i set the hostility on retaliate on my first game and was working fine, monsters only fight me if i hit them, but now i'm on my 2nd game (trying different spawn) but every mob is passif, they dont fight back if i hit them : they just run arround, and if y put the hostility in "passive" and hit them, they just walk arround like nothing happened, but the hostile mode work fine, anyone know why ? Thanks you ! :)

oh, and i play on the latest steam version, no mods, just the base game, reloading the save or the game dont change anything

[wispy tundra]

basically because I'm thinking that having this factory be 7x9 foundations is HUGE for such an early game item as a Reinforced Iron Plate

[ornate saffron]

Naw thats pretty small

[wispy tundra]

yeah, I'm coming more and more to that conclusion as I read stuff and watch videos and look for info

maybe I'm just going through the visual shock because it LOOKS huge and everything I've done so far was tiny stuff with 1-2 production steps

[weary condor]

Real ones build 5x5 space elevator factories with a trillion floors ;)

[ornate saffron]

this is ten motors rotor and stators a minute

#math-and-meta message

pioneer for scale

[wispy tundra]

lolz

interesting, this is way more than 7x9 foundations, specially if you count all floors

[ornate saffron]

After the first two floors its 4x8

I just made a repeatable blueprint

[ornate saffron]

You have a lot. A LOT. Of airspace. Be like a hippy on a helicopter

[wispy tundra]

Yeah. I believe I might be just like
shocked from transitioning from early game and realizing the actual scale of things in this game

[ornate saffron]

Fair

[wispy tundra]

like looking at the factory and thinking "this is TOO BIG, that can't be right" lol

[ornate saffron]

If anything you are likely to small. For a long while I just doubled or tripled what I thought was enough space. The leaves room for walk ways and logistics so you are not cramming it all in

[prime stratus]

how much is clipping frowned upon?

[ornate saffron]

Some say any i say whatever you are comfortable with.

[ornate saffron]

fo example smooth curves require lots of clipping

#screenshots message

[frosty mirage]

What the ideal HMF production per minute? Is this gonna be used a lot later?

[ornate saffron]

you will make more there is 3 more cubes after that each using the previous cube

all but the last is used for building machiens

[frosty mirage]

😭😭

[vivid hearth]

how do you palce a statu in a proper position ?

[ornate saffron]

i wouldnt worry about later until you get there

[vivid hearth]

i can not do it !

[ornate saffron]

hit H to hold then follow the unscreen tooltips to nugde it into position

[wispy tundra]

@ornate saffron here's the factory BTW #design-and-architecture message

[vivid hearth]

o intresting. thanls

[ornate saffron]

her i gave myself a several week headache clipping stuff to make my river gator

[frosty mirage]

Is 5/m enough for now or should i build for 10/m? Im on T6 rn

[forest dew]

heY

[ornate saffron]

5 should be fine for now

[forest dew]

I've finally researched crude oil. Much like coal, is it best to do everything close to the mine for oil or is it fine to fine oil through long distance

[weary condor]

99% of the time the best option is the one with the least fluid transport

So in this case it would likely be best to do everything as close to the oil source as possible

[forest dew]

Okay, thanks. I ask as its 2800 m away from "home"

[weary condor]

But ofc if you wanted to pipe oil all the way back to a central base or smt that’s always an option as long as you keep the pipeline as flat as possible

[forest dew]

yeah i dont think having ther pip flat as poss will happen when its that far away is possible.

[weary condor]

Big foundation highway in the sky is always an option but its pretty ugly, not for everyone

[forest dew]

Yeah i did that for water but just wasnt right

the flow wasn't enough

[weary condor]

Prolly just needed to wait for pipes to fill up

Empty pipes = no flow

[forest dew]

yeah i waiteds 5-6 hours and got annoying

[weary condor]

Damn how long was that pipe😭😭

[forest dew]

700 m +

[scenic mirage]

how have i never found this place before?? its a big lake with a ton of oil and theres some sulfur and coal nearby

[chrome cloud]

that's what she said

[scenic mirage]

it has a ton of bacon and gas rocks

[weary condor]

How many coal nodes is it?

I think ik what you’re talking about

[forest dew]

No, water extractors

[scenic mirage]

670, -130

are the coordinates

[forest dew]

i had 3

the thing is my coal nodes where the other way

[weary condor]

Uhhh

[forest dew]

So i was piping water to the coal

[weary condor]

Could possibly be you were trying to push too much fluid through mk 1 pipes

[forest dew]

700 m + away

lol id only been playing a few hours or so, maybe a day

so I ran the coal to the water, put the generators there, no more mini power cuts

[scenic mirage]

never try and transport fluids long distances, easier to just transport stuff w belts or trains or whatever

[forest dew]

yeah lol I learnt that lesson the hard way ha

[weary condor]

Ye always package your fluids if you wanna move em imo

[ornate saffron]

i hope update 1.2 gives us the option to move fluids over distance with confidance

[forest dew]

ive just found a crashed vessell, pretty cool

[lilac bear]

Pakidge

[lilac bear]

The other way around is usually easier.

[forest dew]

Yeah i discovered that

[weary condor]

Okay so

About to do trains

Havent touched trains in years

Anybody have like some form of guide or tutorial or something?

Or any unspoken rules I should know?

[tall lantern]

life is much easier if you build rails like roads - each lane one-way, and if you need to go both ways, one lane for each direction

aka "bidirectional tracks are a pain to signal"

[lost rapids]

👀

[tall lantern]

that plus "leave at least a foundation width between rails" and "place block signals every so often" are all you need for a reliable working setup

[unkempt blade]

or just one big loop going one direction

[tall lantern]

that is indeed a one-way lane

[unkempt blade]

plus if you do the single loop and make it really convoluted you get to use lots of trains to make it feel full

big loop + serpentine + lots of trains is the way!

[weary condor]

What do block signals do again..?

[tall lantern]

break track up into blocks and prevent trains entering an occupied block, so they don't crash and derail

[vale quail]

who knows when that be i hope its sooner rather then later

[scenic mirage]

they say theyre gonna fix liquids

[manic pivot]

i did 5 coal generators and they are all 100% efficiency

[scenic mirage]

they dont say anything ab what theyre changing tho

[manic pivot]

connected them to my main factory by power lines, thanks for the help

[tall lantern]

have they actually said that or are we still just coping

[white dawn]

Correction: a video thumbnail implied that they "fixed liquids" but the video itself just introduced the Fluid Truck. It's possible that was the joke. :)

[tall lantern]

that's what I thought yeah

[white dawn]

(It's also possible that the joke is that they want us to think that it's only the Fluid Truck, and they actually did start making changes to the fluid system. Time will tell!)

[ornate saffron]

WE KNOW LITTLE ABOUT 1.2 EXCEPT WE WILL GET IT, WHEN IT IS READY

[tall lantern]

or maybe even when it's not ready, that's what Experimental is for

[scenic mirage]

wha

[ornate saffron]

i have faith it will release when they wish it to not a moment before

[abstract heron]

We need @void gorge to tell us if stream tmr?

[leaden turret]

@abstract heron that was sent last week

[abstract heron]

How about video then

[wise hollow]

random question is there no easier solution to get the hard drives that need power other than building really long power lines from your main factory ?

[tall lantern]

temporary biomass burners or APA

[surreal ingot]

Biomass burners

[quasi warren]

I use temp biomass burners

[weary condor]

I usually just build a couple biomass burners next to the hard drive and run em for 30 secs with leaves or smt

[scenic mirage]

you dont needa run it for 30 seconds

[wise hollow]

i did that for a couple but what about the ones that need like 400 MW

[scenic mirage]

lmao why are you waiting that long

[wise hollow]

just build 20 burners lol ?

[scenic mirage]

overclock

also i recommend just building power lines everywhere you go. itll pay off later 😉

[tall lantern]

I wouldn't personally, but each to their own

[weary condor]

Once you get power towers frfr

[tall lantern]

but yeah if you need more power for a drive, build more burners or use your MAM research and exploration

[scenic mirage]

its goated for hoverpacks imo

[tall lantern]

I don't have much need to hoverpack in the wilds, got a jetpack for that

[mystic oriole]

20 burners, that's cute

[tall lantern]

hoverpack's for factory building, which you'll have power for

[mystic oriole]

An APA would satisfy this too

[tall lantern]

(did mention that)

though I imagine they haven't gotten that far through the MAM yet

[mystic oriole]

if you tour the world, collecting stuff, there's enough stuff to unlock and build one or two.

[ivory condor]

Well i did give the devs my saves that clearly demonstrates issues with fluid manifold, especially mk2 pipes, are the devs going to do anything with that information is harder to say

[green fiber]

I made a post with like 3 to 4 saves with issues and a recommendation for mitigation

Gas also might have a solution but thats not something mods can demonstrate

So we can hope they did something

[frosty mirage]

#screenshots message my new project 😭 is it overkill?

[zenith sage]

Do pumps have any other effect on liquids besides headlift? 🤔

[mystic urchin]

Can someone explain to me how frame gen settings work?
When I select Nvidia DLSS because I have an RTX 4060, I cannot enable frame gen
But when I select AMD FSR, I can enable it

[quasi warren]

Frame gen for some reason causes my lights so go all wonky when im moving at a fast speed

[sterile blade]

You might wanna ask that in #off-topic-tech
They know that stuff there

[sterile blade]

Only the lights?
Doesn't it affect pretty much anything moving fast? (Like items on belts too)

[quasi warren]

From what I noticed. I had a mod that turned cables red or green with lighting depending on if they are powered. The frames kept strobing out

[quasi warren]

And yeah. Items on belts are affected. Your ui can be effected when moving FAST

[sterile blade]

Well, mods can add a big layer of unpredictability

[lilac bear]

Good for you.

[quasi warren]

Definitely. I know that because I checked my modded profile. And I have 161 mods i think? Gotta recheck. Its around there though

[sterile blade]

(Your "nickname" registered just now for me BTW 😅)

[quasi warren]

Pfft-

[manic pivot]

ok now I have to make 1k smart plates

[lavish inlet]

I'm designing my RCU line for my aluminium factory, is 2.5 per minute good enough for early phase 4? Or should I double and go for 5/min? What about Cooling systems, how many of those per minute?

[lilac bear]

Welcome to Satisfactory

[sterile blade]

Just a few

[quasi warren]

Yeah- just a few

[lilac bear]

If 1k smart plates isn't your thing, you're not going to like unlocking phase 4 and 5.

[quasi warren]

I might get more. Depending on what I find LOL

[scenic mirage]

💀 what

how tf

[manic pivot]

this game starting to be a pain in my ahh

[lost rapids]

Placing a block under the map ✅
Connected to power grind ✅

Time to build something huge.

[quasi warren]

There's so many mods I dont have installed.

[manic pivot]

are there gun mods in this game I need a Kalashnikov

[lost rapids]

There is better than guns.

[zenith sage]

How do people have so many mods... I have 24 and feel like I don't see anything else useful (I do stick to mostly qol tho)

[quasi warren]

I just see what might be useful for me. And I install.

[manic pivot]

I'm all ears

[lost rapids]

Nukes

[sterile blade]

Well, yeah... They're not made to be "collected" and can often be in conflict too 😅
Other than just there being a ton of mods (we got a beefy Modding community 💪)

[manic pivot]

I want my enemies to suffer, nuke is a instant death

[quasi warren]

Somehow, all the mods i have installed dont conflict

[ashen belfry]

It should be able to.
Used a 4080 12GB and it was no issue for me enabling it.
But I had some artifacts regarding lights, mostly the red/green/white lights of machines.

[quasi warren]

Yes, red green and white sucks for frame gen

[lost rapids]

Eh, just research your MAM :) You'll see.

[ashen belfry]

No need for caps

[mystic urchin]

Well it's not, but apparently AMD works even tho I don't have an AMD GPU

As long as I get more FPS the method is irrelevant to me

[ashen belfry]

Cuz AMD FSR is open for most cards. It's not just specifically for AMD

[quasi warren]

I have DLSS for nvidia and somehow I can still use frame gen

[mystic urchin]

Hm

[manic pivot]

Is it related to the power slugs u find

[lost rapids]

No

[quasi warren]

Power slugs are its own thing

[ashen belfry]

You can use Intel XESS on most cards aswell

[quasi warren]

I think its sulfur tree? Not sure

[fluid crow]

fsr supports more than amd

[lost rapids]

Just check MAM and milestones lol

[manic pivot]

this game is very boring solo u have to get a friend with u or else ur gonna quit 4 hours in

[mystic urchin]

I have played 99% of the time solo

[leaden turret]

looks at 4k+ hours

suuuuuure

[quasi warren]

Its not boring solo for me. Then again, I do like seeing funny number go up. And all the factories and numbers lining up perfectly

[frosty mirage]

Disagree, wrecking your head solo 4 days with logistics is not boring at all

[manic pivot]

y'all lowkey got something loose in ur head

[fluid crow]

I wish I could say I wanted to play with someone else, it sounds like too many cooks in a kitchen

[leaden turret]

[insert obligatory "you don't have to be crazy to work here, but it helps" meme]

[frosty mirage]

I think it can be fun tho if everyone has specific roles

[quasi warren]

I have almost 700 hours.

Not much imo :P

I love doing all the math and seeing everything line up

[fluid crow]

I'm scared it will be like most co workers irl 😭

[scenic mirage]

i put almost 500 hours in and finally beat the game, then almost IMMEDIATELY started a new save 😂

[quasi warren]

The ingame calculator helps so much

[frosty mirage]

Someone said 300 hours is average time for finishing a run, im almost at 200 hours and i didnt finish phase 3 yet

[mystic urchin]

I got ADHD does that count

[sterile blade]

ADA must be proud of your diligence 🫡

[quasi warren]

I spent 300 hours and I didnt get past phase 2

Cause i focused on efficiency

[frosty mirage]

Well i mean you gotta choose who you play with, not just jump on with anyone tbh

[mystic urchin]

I am 322h into my second save still at phase 3
I did finish the game prior to 1.0 tho

[quasi warren]

I mean. I have ADHD and the tism. I love factory games like DSP, factorio, shapez, etc-

[frosty mirage]

Its a bit ironic to invest 300 hours for efficiency and not getting past phase 2

[quasi warren]

I spent so much time before 1.0 aswell- so that might have been why

I joined at update 4 I think

[frosty mirage]

Not a critic or smth, just funny how this game takes more to have everything going right than it takes without automation lol

[wary falcon]

i just built an entire factory on regular alumina, and then realized i had slopppy alumina 🙏 do i just reset it or is it not worth 😭

[quasi warren]

Yep T-T then again, I spent most time doing calculations

[fluid crow]

if you just built the other probably not right now

[wary falcon]

70% built ish

[scenic mirage]

bruh i forgot i unlocked jetpack but i never built one 😭

[frosty mirage]

I get it, im the same way, the sad part is im kinda forced to learn trains now 😭

[quasi warren]

Probably

[sterile blade]

"Back in my days, we didn't even have Particle Accelerators..."

[quasi warren]

I remember one person spent over 100 hours to learn trains just because they wanted to spite them

[quasi warren]

Or when trains didnt crash into eachother, and just phased through

Good times

[fluid crow]

know thy enemy

[frosty mirage]

Im scared of trains

[frosty bloom]

Back in my days, there werent even trains.

[humble osprey]

Petition to make the jumpad more powerful

[sterile blade]

That was so jarring for Factorio players ahahah

[frosty mirage]

I'll route belts from one end to another just to avoid train

[quasi warren]

I remember when the spire coast never existed. Just a flat mountain then a ton of oil. With gas rocks.

[humble osprey]

Also if u middle mouse button on a node, it should pick a miner for you
Like how if u middle mouse button on a building it picks it

[quasi warren]

When you couldn't get rid of gas rocks.

[leaden turret]

spire coast always existed, just in a different form

I remember when concrete didn't have a stack size of 500

[quasi warren]

Update 6 changed the spire coast right?

[fluid crow]

it's jarring when it passes though me and I'm alive

[quasi warren]

I remember when the blueprints never existed

[fluid crow]

I remember the first time a train killed me I was programming it standing too close to the track

[quasi warren]

Anyone else remember when you only had ONE body slot?

Im so glad they changed that

[zenith sage]

I mean.. we still have one "body" slot

[sterile blade]

I barely did 10% of my game hours with blueprints... I haven't played much since they "finalized" them (autoconnect and omni-nudging) 😅

[quasi warren]

yea. But now we have legs, face, back, etc

You wanted to use jetpack? Too bad! Remove blade runners first

[sterile blade]

Next update is gonna add ring slots

[manic pivot]

my friend Im playing with has like OCD and likes everything organized and perfect and im the complete opposite so I love triggering him and seeing him crash out

[quasi warren]

...you scare me.

[manic pivot]

He doesn't have actual OCD he just likes everything organized to the millimeter

gives him satisfaction

[quasi warren]

My friends do that to me to make me crash out

[manic pivot]

I applaud them

[quasi warren]

Like- I just grab the rebar gun, and make em ragdoll. Then stick a bomb to them

[manic pivot]

fellow ragebaiters

[zenith sage]

Oh, there was 1 equipment slot even when both jetpacks and blade runners were in the game? Damn..

[quasi warren]

Yep.

Hazmat suit? Remove jetpack.

[manic pivot]

Tf is blade runner

[quasi warren]

Gas mask? Same thing.

Its why I loved the powersuit mod

Gave me everything I needed

[quasi warren]

Quartz tree

[manic pivot]

????

[quasi warren]

Faster running speed, higher jump power. More fall damage resistance

[quasi warren]

In the MAM

[fluid crow]

the exoskeleton legs with a cp name

[manic pivot]

It's an exoskeleton for the legs

[manic pivot]

Do u unlock that before or after the jetpack

[quasi warren]

At any time

[manic pivot]

I need that NOW

[quasi warren]

Its in the MAM. Just get some quartz to unlock the mam tree

[sterile blade]

It also benefitted people who went through the effort of minimizing radiation, as they could jetpack freely where others had to slug around in Hazmat Suits 😆

[quasi warren]

Yep XD

[manic pivot]

I get quarts by getting the resource scanner thingy?

[full tulip]

Oof. Discovering that my blueprints aren't backed up with my steam save... 🤦

[quasi warren]

Nah. You have to find quartz first

[manic pivot]

😡

[quasi warren]

Could be a temp node. Or permanent node

[manic pivot]

I remember stumbling upon some quartz before

[quasi warren]

Just gotta find some. Then unlock the ability to scan for quarts nodes in the MAM

[sterile blade]

Also made the Factory Cart more appealing as it was convenient to use with a hazmat on (and no blade runners)

[manic pivot]

idk where it is now tho

[quasi warren]

Thats also how sulfer and caterium works too

[fluid crow]

map note ftw

[manic pivot]

I thought this game was gonna be easier than industrialist

[ornate saffron]

Any loose rock of quartz will do. Just need to get enough to unlock scanning

[quasi warren]

You have not seen the nuclear power plants. Or turbofuel.

Or even supercomputers

[manic pivot]

You know industrialist??

[ornate saffron]

Its pretty simple in many ways. The scale is large

[quasi warren]

I play factory games. Of course I have.

[quasi warren]

Its simple, its just... larger

[quasi warren]

Mycelia, sulfer, caterium, quartz, power slugs, enemy remains, hard drives, nutrients, and ailen artifacts are all of the MAM research trees available

[manic pivot]

lowk industrialist way easier than ts

[manic pivot]

I found an alien artifact smth called sphere smth named after a person and the slugs are easy to find since they literally glow and enemy remains

[sterile blade]

Factorio looms ominously in the distance

[manic pivot]

nope Im not even clicking the download on that

[quasi warren]

Gotta buy it first LOL

[leaden turret]

how can it loom ominously when it's 2d?

[quasi warren]

All the logic you can do hurts people's brains

[leaden turret]

someone built a working game of battleship in vanilla satisfactory

[quasi warren]

... what

[fluid crow]

b7

[manic pivot]

or I can sail the high seas

[leaden turret]

• Don't discuss illegal activities (eg. Piracy etc.).
#rules

[manic pivot]

wait piracy is illegal?

[quasi warren]

Yea

[sterile blade]

... Is there a country where it isn't?

[fluid crow]

in some countries

[leaden turret]

most places frown upon the wielding of a cutlass

[manic pivot]

I mean I pirated a game like 4 years ago that was one time tho didn't know it was illegal can't even remember the game

[ornate saffron]

depends on who is doing it. META did extreme piracy over torrents to train AI and a judge decided it was okay

but this is a topic for another time

[manic pivot]

fuck AI

[leaden turret]

a judge also decided [redacted because #rules ]

[manic pivot]

we need ram not AI

[mystic oriole]

if there's no ownership, then piracy isn't a crime.

[leaden turret]

🐏

[manic pivot]

fuckass AI got me stuck with 512 gb of storage cuz the nvme prices are ridiculous

[leaden turret]

is mocking clankers #off-topic-general , #off-topic-tech , or against the rules because it necessitates poking fun at people?

[sterile blade]

Probably yes

[quasi warren]

Its around $35? Same with the DLC. There is so much to factorio

The logistics. How everything is done.

Love the game

[manic pivot]

nah not a fan of the 2d style

I'm new gen

I need subway surfers gameplay to focus

[quasi warren]

I love all factory games. Each brings their own challenges and tribulations

I still have to remember to build up in satisfactory

I constantly build horizontally

[ornate saffron]

same but im 40 and i have Star Trek The Original Series on my second monitor

[sterile blade]

I used to think similarly... But there's a lot to be missed out if you downplay a whole genre just because of the POV ^^

[quasi warren]

I just need a yt video playing in the background and I can focus like im taking an exam LOL

[fluid crow]

don't wait for it to go on sale 😆

[quasi warren]

From what I believe, factorio wont go on sale

[ornate saffron]

it never will lol

[quasi warren]

Atleast from what the devs said

[fluid crow]

and the price history

[ornate saffron]

The makers of factorio believe that putting it on sale would be harmful to those who bought it at full price, and those who worked on it, they value you it at the full price

[sterile blade]

Can't argue with that 🫡

[quasi warren]

Atleast they are being honest tho

[manic pivot]

shii is like 9 years old and not that hard to make 💔

[quasi warren]

Youd be surprised

[unkempt blade]

why not clone it and cash in then?

[quasi warren]

Plus the DLC.

[manic pivot]

ofc it's hard but compared to games of today it's tiny

[sterile blade]

"Not that hard to make"?

[quasi warren]

^

[manic pivot]

^^^

[quasi warren]

Its still LARGE when you look at everything in it.

[fading whale]

Prompt for ChatGPT: "Make me a game like Factorio. But without infringing on anyones copyrights. And I should be able to make money off of it".
Easy.

[fluid crow]

1

[sterile blade]

Compared to other factory games, I think it's easily between the "biggest" by all metrics other than sheer disk-space xD

[unkempt blade]

"and don't use too much of my token quota, this is basic stuff you stupid LLM"

[quasi warren]

I know there is a mod for factorio that basically turns all recipes into irl ones. All chemical reactions too

Cant remember which one that is

[sterile blade]

If it's Factorio or Satisfactory, there's (almost) always a mod for it

[vague thorn]

How do I make smart plating? I don't see it at the crafting station nor as an option in my constructor?

[unkempt blade]

only vanilla the way the wise and benevolent creators intended for me!

[unkempt blade]

you can't make package items by hand

[quasi warren]

Assembler.

Its not in the constructor or craft bench

[sterile blade]

Codex

[quasi warren]

Its in the assembler

[vague thorn]

i see it now thanks :)))

[fluid crow]

unlock at hub then at assembler. you can see if it's unlocked serching for it in game and see if it's got the details

also says where to make it

[sterile blade]

The creators took away my sushi and my colorful signs!

[quasi warren]

I cant go back to vanilla TwT I wish I could

But I cant

[unkempt blade]

trust in their judgement for they are awesome and all-knowing

[sterile blade]

REEEEE!!

[vague thorn]

when using the space elevator, do I need to connect to all 6 inputs? or just one?

(just for the smart plating phase)

[quasi warren]

You can hand feed too

Some like hand feeding, others like automating everything

[ivory condor]

Who knows maybe they could make manifolds behave somehow like looped manifolds, without having to do the loops

[fluid crow]

no.. I would even just load it directly by hand if you want

it takes few parts

[green fiber]

They just gotta reduce the free energy gain thing pipes do when they reach high flow rate.

Its the same problem that causes buffers to endlessly oscillate between each other

[ivory condor]

Hmm thats true, its weird what happens between buffers to

[green fiber]

Same root issue

Like, exactly

[ivory condor]

Because in real life buffers wouldnt work that way, as free energy gains cant realistically happen

[fluid crow]

1 buffer hooked to 1 machine that's not running and a short pipe still was still sloshing lol

[unkempt blade]

don't worry, they already fixed all my issues with liquids by announcing liquid trucks

[quasi warren]

I dislike the sloshing mechanic

[shadow talon]

Any ideas for making a from raw material to rod uranium factory?

[quasi warren]

I just realized ive spent over $100 on satisfactory alone because I gifted it to 3 of my friends before

[unkempt blade]

use lots of factory carts and trains and make it extra colorful

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch rifle

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rifle

[lilac bear]

!wikisearch rebar gun

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rebar+gun

[fluid crow]

turn the sirens on so the sound is colorful too

[lilac bear]

I want to see videos on people doing serious production lines with factory carts.

[quasi warren]

Just checked... I spent around... $125? I bought 2 friends it after 1.0 no sale. Then a different friend before 1.0 dropped. And then myself way before on sale for like $15

[fluid crow]

honestly you kinda can that's why it's so funny

[quasi warren]

Do I regret it? Nope.

[shadow talon]

How do you get 130 converters, 41 smelters?

[lilac bear]

Not the worst way to spend money.

[quasi warren]

They all LOVED it

So im sure they will get the money's worth

[scenic mirage]

turbo heavy fuel recipe is the best for turbofuel right? no need for diluted fuel

[lilac bear]

I know. I just want to see a very serious player like TotalXclipse or ImKibitz see run with it and see how far they can take it. I'm sure somebody did it.

If anyone does find a video like that, please ping me.

[fluid crow]

I wonder how many before there's performance problems

[unkempt blade]

I had a couple hundred in my 1.0 save and it was ok

[fluid crow]

nice!

[unkempt blade]

if you use them for actual factory stuff the main difference is you need to leave more space with your build than what you normally would

[fluid crow]

already sounds superior to drones

[lilac bear]

On a modern and powerful CPU? A lot. Satisfactory is pretty optimized.

[unkempt blade]

carts are pretty hard to deadlock but if you have a lot of routes in a really tight area it can still happen

[quasi warren]

Once I unlock oil again, im making my way to the spire coast and turning most of the oil into turbofuel for power. My first (true) mega project

[fluid crow]

totally mine drive off cliffs and stuff then magically appear at the destination

[lilac bear]

In lightly used areas with enough concrete? Perhaps. All other areas? Factory carts have a lot of downsides.

But don't let that stop you.

[unkempt blade]

that's the nice thing about tractors/trucks/carts, they're mostly self-healing as soon as you leave their immediate location

it starts doing more of a sim and less of actually tracking what vehicles is where

[sinful goblet]

i follow a specific youtuber that think do great tutorials, but he always starts every build totally from the mine/ores. It has to be any other way around it, so i can manage iron plates to diffrent setups etc?

[zenith sage]

... I just found out that my constructor blueprint had an unconnected lift at the top... after building hundreds of those...

[elder haven]

Why are my coal generators not getting coal evenly? i have pure coal node, 120/m, and the 8 coal generator should eat exactly 120/m. But they just not getting enough coal, and the mk2 belt feels slower than the mk1

[manic pivot]

@lilac bear blade runners are fucking life changing

totally worth the exploration trip to get quartz

[frosty bloom]

Double check that you dont have a mk1 belt piece between the mk2 line. Sounds like that

[clear mesa]

Share a picture in #1038092680493801533

[fiery gull]

Yo y'all you yesn'ters

[fluid crow]

make sure it's getting enough water through the pipe or that you don't have a small piece of mk1 belt

[clear mesa]

But what vash just said is most likely the issue unless you built the splitters wrong or something idk

[fluid crow]

or maybe you just need to wait more for it to fill

[elder haven]

they have enough water, 3 water pump should be okay

[fluid crow]

1 mk1 pipe is max 300

[clear mesa]

3 water pumps are required for 8 coal gens without overclocking

[elder haven]

But they have enough, i checked

[clear mesa]

Recheck all your conveyors to make sure there's no mk1...and if you build in manifolds then give it time to fill up before starting up.

120 a minute is indeed enough for 8 coal gens

there's not much that could go wrong with conveyors

You check miner/node purity, belts and manifold it to avoid load balancer mishaps

[fluid crow]

1 pipe isn't though unless it's mk 2

[clear mesa]

no it is as long as you use junctions, junctions dont have a max throughput

you shouldn't be connecting all the water from one side anyways

[elder haven]

i will double check my huge ahh conveyor lane

[clear mesa]

and it's his coal that is struggling not water

[clear mesa]

The most likely culprit

[elder haven]

ah

[fluid crow]

just trying to find any potential misidentifying problems

[elder haven]

found it, a small piece of fcker

[clear mesa]

ye but as long as u use one of these methods

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Coal-Powered_Generator

then you're fine

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!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[clear mesa]

there we go

[fiery gull]

Issue was...?

[clear mesa]

small piece of mk1 i assume

that lagged everything behind

[elder haven]

A small piece of an mk1 conveyor

[fiery gull]

Little fker

[elder haven]

and i was stressing like damn, the mk2 is not mk2ing

[fiery gull]

You've been playing for over 13 hour(s), FICSIT recommends your daily bottle of FICSIT water

[fluid crow]

sus

[fiery gull]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

[elder haven]

The factory must grow, i say as i exit Satisfactory and start up Factorio

[fiery gull]

Wtf is Faktario? I only know of Satisfactory!

[grim carbon]

i have a jetpack on my back, i've tried to use solid biomass can't stay flying for more than a few seconds

[fiery gull]

I wanna know what that GIF was
-# I think I might be obsessed with Satisfactory

[grim carbon]

so i tried packaged fuel, same result

[fiery gull]

Try losing weight

[grim carbon]

how?

[fiery gull]

Starvation?

[grim carbon]

running doesn't help

[fiery gull]

Slide off excess body fat

[grim carbon]

i slide all over the place when i can cos it's fun

doesn't help with flying though

[fiery gull]

Omg sameeeee

I love the stim I get from ts

[grim carbon]

i need more stims

stims are good

[fiery gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-speaking-announcement-chat-talk-gif-18333367480312491012

[elder haven]

Go transhuman, be a cyborg that has been built with lightweight materials

[fiery gull]

I got smth even better

[elder haven]

Should i be worried?

[grim carbon]

cyborgs have metal parts

too heavy

[simple roost]

Anyone know what to do about disappearing doggos?

[fiery gull]

Grab yourself some infinity stones and then proceed to simply bend the space time continuum in such a way that permits you to fly

[elder haven]

Yeah, but if you build yourself mostly with lightweight materials i guess

[grim carbon]

how about light wood?

then i'd be a woodborg

[fiery gull]

Does morning wood work?

[grim carbon]

still too heavy

[fiery gull]

Light hard wood?

[grim carbon]

it gets heavy when it gets hard

[fiery gull]

Oh yeah facts

What if you were to become a cloud?

[grim carbon]

i don't want to be a cloud

i don't like rain that much

[fiery gull]

You would be the rain

[grim carbon]

then i wouldn't be a cloud

[simple roost]

I had a bunch of doggos and they clipped through the floor. Now a little over half of them are gone. I think they might have clipped through the ground.

[fluid crow]

try to pen them up in something where they don't fall through the map

[fiery gull]

Make saves?

[elder haven]

A person who think all the time

[simple roost]

I had put them on 1m foundation and that seemed to help, but half of them are still gone.

[grim carbon]

did they melt?

[fiery gull]

Isn't that megamind?

[grim carbon]

i have a megamind, but it's empty most of the time

[raw bison]

I love this game

I’m not good at it

[grim carbon]

me neither

[simple roost]

I have saves, but I don't notice they've gone until it's been a while. I come by occassionally to get the items they found and there are some missing.

[fiery gull]

I can tell by your uncapitalized letter

[grim carbon]

oh, so it should be megaMind?

[fiery gull]

I have the solution to that problem 😎

[raw bison]

I think if I sat down and did some calculations and planning I could figure it

[fiery gull]

No it should be "I" instead of the lowercase one

[simple roost]

There's a land whale that's been hanging around. I'm beginning to think it might have eaten some of them.

[simple roost]

What's that?

[grim carbon]

do they even do that?

[fluid crow]

I bet it did something

[grim carbon]

i find those tall things so confusing

[simple roost]

While I was googling the doggo question, someone said theirs had sunk into the ground to -300. It said to load your save onto satisfactory-calculators.com to fix it, but nothing there seems to deal with saves.

[grim carbon]

not even the interactive map couldn't help?

[elder haven]

Why bother with calculations, you will figure things out in the end

[raw bison]

At least this is easier than the other factory game. I used to play that one with random people. Playing it with Germans just kinda ruined it for me

They are too good at it

Horrifying

[fiery gull]

:loser:

[simple roost]

Are we not supposed to say the name of other factory games in here?

[fluid crow]

I calculate the belts that look empty 😆

[grim carbon]

i've seen people mention factorio before

[raw bison]

lol idk

[fiery gull]

Capitalism !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/donk-putadonkonit-airhorn-gif-21063082

[scenic mirage]

lol coffee stain studios is based in sweden

[raw bison]

I think it’s funnier if I let the game that shall not be named go silent

[scenic mirage]

def notorious for its issues with capitalism

[fiery gull]

Thought it was based on my shirt

[simple roost]

I'm a factorio modder, alegedly. I'm still on my first playthrough of Satisfactory.

[raw bison]

It’s true evil

[fiery gull]

I've seen the images of factorio and wondered why anyone would play it

[grim carbon]

i've played it

[ornate saffron]

Your first playthrough lasts as long as you let it

[grim carbon]

and enjpoyed it up to a point

[simple roost]

Because it's rediculously awesome. I have a couple thousand hours in Factorio.

[fiery gull]

Touch some grass 😂

[grim carbon]

im on my first playthrough for the third or fourth time

[fiery gull]

YOU INVENTED TIME TRAVEL ?!?

[simple roost]

Of course. I only say that because I've considered a do over now that I've learned a few things. Maybe with a different starting location on the map.

[grim carbon]

how about in satisfactory, @simple roost ?

[viscid rune]

I'm still a novice at factorio, haven't breached 10k hours yet.

[ornate saffron]

I get that. I had a few false starts

[simple roost]

Settle down. The game's been out for nine years.

[simple roost]

70 hours or so? Some serious AFK time in there, though.

[grim carbon]

oh ok

[fiery gull]

I really need an emoji for "get Satisfactory (a life)" lol

[ornate saffron]

Ten starts 7 clears 1000 hours of playtime. Not much of it afk. Everyone has a diffrent journey and playstyle. There is many paths to the end

[simple roost]

I actually bought it a couple years ago, but I'm just now getting around to playing it. Liking it more than I thought I would, and that's from expecting to enjoy it.

[viscid rune]

I apparently have 3k in satisfactory, wow.

[grim carbon]

165 hours for me

just past phase 2 for the first time

[scenic mirage]

636 for me

[ornate saffron]

Time keeps slipping into the future. Whether or not you notice

[simple roost]

I'm still very new. Just now figuring out how to manage spaghetti in 3D. Working on a strat of running it all in the basement.

[fiery gull]

So assuming that "couple thousand" means 2500 hours and regating the leap years since the game came out and making this linear that is 1.314 hours per day

[grim carbon]

cool

[fiery gull]

I got 45 hours

[simple roost]

What is phase 2?

[fiery gull]

In the Space Elevator

[grim carbon]

of the space elevator

after you complete hub upgrade number 6 it'll talk to you about the space elevator

[simple roost]

Oh. I think I'm unlocking phase 7.

[viscid rune]

I just asumed I played factorio more than sat-fac, but I now have more hours in it.

CoI is still only 605

[grim carbon]

tier 7, there is no phase 7

[simple roost]

okay, then I'm mixing phases and tiers.

[ornate saffron]

This has been my only factory game At somepoint I watched a YouTube series called "factorio pro plays satisfactory" and learned to look at things a different way. It actually helped a lot

[viscid rune]

Still never finished satisfactory, I always end up stopping at the last tier.

[fiery gull]

Perception = 🔑

[grim carbon]

the weird thing for me in this game, is the first-person view

[fiery gull]

Why come?

[grim carbon]

if you're on tier 7 already, you should know about the space elevator

[junior arch]

Is there a glitch with the Data Driven Trophy?

[simple roost]

what's the difference between a phase and a tier?

[ornate saffron]

I came from the quake side of gaming so that was fine lol. I joke with my friends this is my retirement game.

[grim carbon]

phases refer to the space elevator

tier are in the hub

[grim carbon]

perhaps mine too

[simple roost]

Yes. I've placed and upgraded the space elevator.

[fiery gull]

I did the entire HUB Tier 0

[ornate saffron]

Phases go towards ||spoiler|| being built in space shipped via the space elevator. Tiers are unlocked in the hub. Two tiers per phase

[grim carbon]

where does the pod go when you finish a tier in the hub?

[simple roost]

Gotcha. I'm just finishing Phase 3. I have all of Tier 6 unlocked.

[fluid crow]

good question

[grim carbon]

awesome

[simple roost]

But all my doggos keep disappearing. lol

[grim carbon]

it has to go somewhere for it to return

[fiery gull]

I have always wondered that

I actually rode it...twice...

[ornate saffron]

Really the tiers are the main parts for the game phases are parts for continuing the story.

Each tier involves lessons. Coal for example was a introduction to fluids which is a solid base to expand on when you hit fuel

[grim carbon]

i haven't been able to get close to just 1, let alone have multiple

@ornate saffron do you know why i can't fly when i have packaged fuel in my inventory?

[ornate saffron]

Do you have a jet pack on your back?

[grim carbon]

yes

you can't fly without one

[quasi warren]

I wonder if you set the jetpack to use a different preferred fuel type

[junior arch]

Is there a glitch with the Data Driven Trophy? Like is it decrypting and selecting 100 alt recipes from hard drive, or literally collecting 100?

[grim carbon]

i set it to the packaged fuel

still no good

[simple roost]

In the inventory screen, find the gear by your jetpack to set the fuel.

[grim carbon]

i did already

[ornate saffron]

Not sure then. As far as I know it will use your preferred fuel choice first then any fuel in your inventory if that is not a option

[fiery gull]

Such as creatures?

[vague thorn]

wow im loving this game so far :))

[grim carbon]

i fly, then the image above the jetpack shows the fule being used for one unit then i drop to the ground again

[quasi warren]

? Wdym

[vague thorn]

u can fly?!?!?

[simple roost]

That's normal behavior

[fluid crow]

cuz regular fuel sux

[simple roost]

You can only refuel on the ground.

[fiery gull]

It would be good if you could use those animals you find and kill as fuel

[grim carbon]

then i don't have the ability to fly at all, then

[vague thorn]

only reasonable fuel are leaves

[quasi warren]

The jetpack uses solid biofuel, liquid biofuel, packaged fuel, turbofuel, rocket fuel, or ionized fuel

[fiery gull]

Not converting it but rather just using their remains

[simple roost]

Early fuels run out quick, so it ends up being more like jump+

[fiery gull]

I only know of one of those and the rest Idek abt yet

[grim carbon]

i have tried solid biofuel and packaged fuel, but neither let me fly for more than 2 or 3 seconds

[fluid crow]

is one of the best for horizontal travel by far

[quasi warren]

It does that

[simple roost]

I'm on what ever the red fuel package is, and it was a huge difference from the yellow.

[quasi warren]

I just tap the jump button to move quickly

[grim carbon]

i have the bladerunners and i love how much faster you can run

[simple roost]

When I was on solid biofuel I ended up just reequiping the parachute.

[fluid crow]

I still like liquid bio over turbo

[grim carbon]

where is the hover pack thing?

[quasi warren]

Tiers 7 and 8

[grim carbon]

which tier is it?

oh

[fiery gull]

I'm on tier 4...

[simple roost]

BTW, I think all this information about how the jetpack works is in the tier where you unlocked it. I'm pretty sure I read this in-game.

[fluid crow]

was some audio too

[simple roost]

You can get to a log of all the past messages, also.

[grim carbon]

yeah, i look at it often

[ornate saffron]

Run slide jump slide jump slide gain speed and go fast boi

[simple roost]

You're ahead of me on that one. I just found it last night.

[fluid crow]

can fly horizontal across half a biome with liquid bio

[grim carbon]

that's more fun going down hill

[ornate saffron]

You can unlock a ||hover pack|| in phase 4

[grim carbon]

i'm only on phase 3, just started

[ornate saffron]

Ziplines conserve momentum too

[grim carbon]

you have to research it in the MAM

[quasi warren]

Research what?

[grim carbon]

the jetpack

and the bladerunners

[quasi warren]

No? You unlock that in tier 5

The bladerunners you unlock in the mam

[grim carbon]

then build them both in the equipment workshop

oh

[ornate saffron]

blade runners and parachute are in the mam the jetpack and hover pack are in tiers

[grim carbon]

oh ok, i was a little confused

anyway, have to go

[ornate saffron]

there is a lot of information we all get frazzled ^_^

[grim carbon]

indeed

my little brain can't keep up

[ornate saffron]

The para chute is a great option earl;y game especially when paired with blade runners. you can game height and momentum on steep verticle ramps that are part of the landscape

think of the parachute as a squirrel suit parachute combo

[simple roost]

Image test. https://imgur.com/a/6n31i3L

looks like they have image preview off. bummer.

[ornate saffron]

link works. images and gifs will not work in this chat at all

[scenic mirage]

yeah because theres #off-topic-media and #screenshots!

[grim carbon]

And #math-and-meta

[ornate saffron]

there was a time where this was a useless chat do to image and gif spam

[simple roost]

Yeah, this is more of an Exhibit A type deal than showing a screenshot. Does anyone know if this is real?

[simple roost]

Ugh. Sounds horrible.

[fluid crow]

how is it useless when you can just change it in settings

[ornate saffron]

I have not run into a scenrio of things falling through the ground in sometime. One instance since full release of the game43

[simple roost]

I've had 5 doggos in a pen of 8 disappear.

[ornate saffron]

this chat was just spammed images and gifs we couldnt read any real post. most ppl are nnot power users they want basic functionality

[ornate saffron]

that's unfortunate

[simple roost]

I agree.

I feel sorry for me, too.

[fluid crow]

discord could be way better but you can set if you see embeds yourself

[ornate saffron]

were the doggo pens on the ground or on foundations?

[simple roost]

On foundations. I currently have the remaining ones on walkway.

I saw the old doggos-on-ground when I was looking into the issue before coming here.

[ornate saffron]

hmm the only instance i have had things fall through since 1.0 was on bare ground.... fortunately (un fortunetly for you) that has =been my only experience

[torn lynx]

IF I SUE A LOT OF POWER LINES TO MAKE AL ONG CONNECITO NTO THE GENERATOR IT WONT MAKE THE FUISE HAVE A HIGHER HCANCE OF BLOWING RIGHT?

[simple roost]

I only came here because that steam community post referenced a way to recover them in the save file, but I didn't see any such tool on satisfactory-calculators.com. I was hoping someone here would know about it, such if it had been moved.

[ornate saffron]

there is no resistance added due to power lines

[simple roost]

Thanks. Good to know it's not the problem that it was, in any event.

[vague thorn]

why does my powergrid keep shutting off? i have plenty of fuel...

[fluid crow]

probably some kind of pipe problem

[tall lantern]

check the power graph and see

either you're not producing as much power as you think, or you're using more than you can support

[fiery gull]

Are the spoilers done?

[tall lantern]

if you see your power production bouncing all over the place, then your power production's rekt or you're using geothermal

[fluid crow]

||🤷 ||

[fiery gull]

I had spent some time trying to recover a super glitched death crate but no luck

[simple roost]

hmm. that's no bueno.

[tall lantern]

doggos respawn, just get more

[simple roost]

Thanks. That's the conclusion I had arrived at. Fixing to go do that. 👍

[ornate saffron]

mosat of use learn to use the Spoiler tag quickyly im sorry if your experience has been ruined in any way

[ornate saffron]

I just feed every doggo i see and if i come across one ive fed its a happy bonus. I like Happy doggos

[simple roost]

And TBH, I was never super worried about despawning. I mostly didn't want a herd of extra entities creating cpu load down below the surface.

[fiery gull]

Thanks...? I gues...? 🤷 🤔

[tall lantern]

a dozen doggos'd be nothing vs the actual factories

[ornate saffron]

if you see someone dropping spoilers (including me) please remind them to use the spoiler options so we can make things better

[simple roost]

🤫 ||My doggos are in the sunken place.||

[tall lantern]

||join them||

[white dawn]

||why is it so dark in here?||

[fiery gull]

Thanks

[simple roost]

||thank you for your support in this time of struggle😅 ||