satisfactory

[quartz yoke]

<-- fan of bottling fluids and unpacking as needed.

I've run bottles of water up a refinery tower with 12 stacked high

image of that madness in screenshots

[ashen belfry]

I did that. Wasn't that vertical though.
Just a very long platform

[quartz yoke]

depends on the volume of production

10x12x100 converted 3 maxed Pure Copper nodes into Copper Powder

[valid timber]

When I finally finish up this stupid project im on ill be converting my main base in the dune desert to that, just for basic stuff though

[toxic lichen]

yur

[valid timber]

Ill make all the basics in house then ship in stuff like steel

[quartz yoke]

@toxic lichen so you should be at tier 3/4 doing coal and steel

[toxic lichen]

yea i got power automated now

which is sparking this need to revamp

[valid timber]

coal my beloved

ive got 48 coal gens online i havent left phase 2

[toxic lichen]

i felt like i discovered fire when i had automated power and over clocking

felt very oonga boonga

[valid timber]

it gets better

[toxic lichen]

oh it better

[quartz yoke]

lol how about getting Geothermals online before submitting the 50 smart plating 😄

[toxic lichen]

i think playing atm on minecraft
is what sparked this oonga boonga need to automate stuff

[valid timber]

hand craft all of your items

[toxic lichen]

ill hand craft you

my first couple tiers i did pure hand craft

im never doing that again

from the ore to the plates and reinforced plates
all by hand

never
ever again

is the uh
awesome shop worth it?

[quartz yoke]

absolutely

[valid timber]

so worth it

[toxic lichen]

hmmmmmm

how long for uhm
those fancy fancy dimensional depots?

[quartz yoke]

first thing I tend to buy is concrete foundations

[tall lantern]

I like the double ramps

[toxic lichen]

cause i havent found a SAM yet and its bugging me
So i cant research down t here

[tall lantern]

time to go exploring then

[quartz yoke]

fancy depots you can get in tier 3/4 if you know where to find SAM

[tall lantern]

(or if you want map spoilers, take a look at a node map)

[toxic lichen]

ive been shown the node map

im gonna raw dog it for now

get some nice excitement from finding the crash sites and stuff still

[mortal stone]

Is 15/min too many to aim for in phase 2?

[leaden turret]

15/min of whut

[mortal stone]

Space elevator parts, all 3 of them

[leaden turret]

that would depend entirely on how long you want to wait for stuff to finish

[finite mirage]

is 18 plastic/m and 18 rubber/m sufficient?

[south sinew]

no

[finite mirage]

ok

[south sinew]

plastic/rubber you want to be aiming for more like 2-300/m to start with

[south sinew]

If you automate parts as soon as you unlock them, you need a lot less per minute, the parts you need most of you unlock earliest in all tiers I believe, but it's all about how long you're willing to wait

[mortal stone]

Was planning out the rest of my base since I just finished almost everything in phase 2 and was finally moving to centralize and remake my base

[dense violet]

At the very start? Sure you do t need it for much

[finite mirage]

im afraid if i make it too fast ill clog my system

[south sinew]

You should probably automate the P2 parts to like 5/min in your old base, then make a new base and whilst you're making it, you will buffer all the parts

[dense violet]

Store a bunch of it. And nothing wrong with thr system pausing

[south sinew]

ah yes sorry

[finite mirage]

fuel?

[south sinew]

at the very very start, you only need plastic/rubber to unlock a couple milestones so you can get better processing

so you can just bodge a few hundred of each and doesn't matter how long it takes really

I wouldn't consider my setup "done" until reaching 2-300/m of each, but that's not necessary to reach immediately

[south sinew]

Overflow resin to sink

but also there's no need to invest too heavily in this because HOR + diluted fuel + recycled plastic/rubber alts are crazy better than your starting recipes so you don't really want to go too hard on the basic setup if you can avoid it

just enough to get by until you can unlock the good alts

[finite mirage]

i see

[dense violet]

Have an awesome sink. you’d need it no matter how much you’re making

But also don’t tie your power and item production together

[finite mirage]

how else would i get fuel power?

[leaden turret]

the general advise is to segregate power generation into separate outputs for powering itself + export, such that if the main grid has a power cut, production of fuel keeps going

e.g. powering miners and water extractors for coal power separately from export, extractors & refineries for fuel power separate from export, etc.

[finite mirage]

can u sink liquids?

[ruby jay]

Not without packaging

[dense violet]

sink the resin

and make plastic and rubber as the primary output for a factory , sink the byproduct

[humble osprey]

why cant i choo choo the bottles and empties instead

[quartz yoke]

you can, I just prefer to belt all the things

[void cliff]

How do you guys manage massive amounts of train inputs at a factory? A different freight platform for every material seems like the only logical way. But you probably end up with multiple train stations at a single factory, right?

[tulip roost]

whens the nesxt sale for this game? i wanna buy it already

[dense violet]

strangely companies don't advertise sales in advance because then people don't buy teh game

probably summer sale

[midnight wagon]

Run whilst you still can. It's been the nastiest time sink of my life and I don't even regret it.

[dense violet]

well most of the time platforms won't move much more than 1 belt per - so yeah you'll often need a station for each individual train

[polar ermine]

hi where the hell do i make a portable miner?

[sinful carbon]

why are there like only 2 hard drive crash sites in dune desert?

[lapis jolt]

Equipment thingy

[polar ermine]

also when placing building how do I zoom out? also how do I enable third person?

[polar ermine]

is that in thus hub thing or what?

[lapis jolt]

Console or pc?

[lapis jolt]

No

[void cliff]

Push H or hold R2 to hold the item in place

[polar ermine]

r2?

[lapis jolt]

Not the crafting bench, the other thing

[void cliff]

For gamepad controls

[unkempt blade]

the parachute?

[polar ermine]

h just puts away my gun

ah you mean i have to buidl a equipment workshop I guess

[void cliff]

Push H while in the build menu before placing the item

[silent pagoda]

max cons. : 18,596 MW
capacity : 3,144 MW
things aren't looking good

[polar ermine]

whats the build menu?

[void cliff]

Q

[polar ermine]

clicking h in q doesnt do anything but I got it now thanks

[lapis jolt]

I think the thing you need is called the equipment workshop?

[polar ermine]

also can I disable night/day cycle? and is there no t hird person view?

[lapis jolt]

Idk, my memory sucks

[polar ermine]

yes I thought I can make he thing in the hub

[lapis jolt]

No, porta miners are made in workshop

[void cliff]

Photo mode is P, but you can’t build anything when in photo mode

[polar ermine]

its kidan the same as third person, I'd like to zoom out and place my building vs first person. that's not a thing then?

[worldly jay]

no, thats not a thing. but you can make yourself a little platform to build from, or use a lookout tower

[white dawn]

Midgame you can take advantage of the jetpack, though I personally find that pretty difficult to build with. Later game (Phase 4+) you've got access to a hoverpack, though, which is great for factory building

[polar ermine]

ok thank you - there isn't a mod for this?

another question, how come I c an only hook up one machine to my generator thing?

[worldly jay]

only 1 cable per machine, use power poles inbetween

[slender bear]

A friend and I are having some issues playing through this game in multiplayer - Simply put, we're tired of having to constantly rebuild everything only to tear it down again a few hours later.

It's also difficult to plan for the future when we're stuck on coal power.

Finally, my friend seems to be of the opinion that placing down more buildings is always better, and I tend to build to the calculator's specs for a given factory.

[worldly jay]

you dont have to tear stuff down constantly, try to expand on what you have already, or simply move on to different resource nodes when you want to build something new.

[finite mirage]

i have all the resources i would need but im constantly finding myself running between factories to get these resources due to a lack of inventory space

[white dawn]

What Calippola said -- just don't tear things down! Leave your old stuff as-is and build new factories instead. Get in the mindset that once a factory's done, it's done. You can just Never Touch It Again™.

I agree that the tear-down-and-rebuild cycle can be exhausting, which is why I generally always advise against it

It's a huge map with a ton of resources out there; you're not "wasting" anything by leaving your already-built factories where they are

What I'm dancing around is basically yet again recommending "Independency" -- https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency . Basically: each factory goes from ore->product, and only ever outputs to your own personal storage. You make a 10/min Rotor factory, that outputs to your own storage (for build gun use) and nothing else. Whenever some other factory needs more Rotors, just make more Rotors right inside that new factory (as an intermediate product)

Each factory's a totally isolated thing which doesn't depend on your previous stuff at all, and it's an easy way to just be totally done with a factory the moment it's up and running

Tear-down-and-rebuild is fine if you enjoy it, of course, but just remember that it's always a choice, not a necessity

[worldly jay]

agree so much, apocalyptech ^^

[white dawn]

You'd do well to start researching Mercer Spheres in the MAM. :)

[slender bear]

I agree with the approach of independency, but we're cuurrently limited on power - All the factories we already have could overload our power network if they all run at once.

[white dawn]

Can Make More Power™ of course. :)

I generally end Phase 2 with anywhere from 32-64 coal gens

[south sinew]

dimensional depot my friend

[south sinew]

that definitely sounds like a "build more power" situation yes

[finite mirage]

should i make a sam fluc factory?

[south sinew]

if you can do, then sure, they are quite useful, but you need Manufactory for it whcih is later in the game

[white dawn]

(And also Independency doesn't really have much bearing on power. Whether you're following a style like Independency or not, you're probably still making about the same amount of stuff. The difference with Independency is that your production for specific resources might be located in a few different places instead of all in one place. But it's still roughly the same amount of factory overall)

[south sinew]

so you often just hand-craft them for the early and mid game

[finite mirage]

whats manufactory?

[south sinew]

basically an assembler but with 4 inputs instead of 2

SAM fluctuator requires 3 items so you can't automate it in a constructor/assembler

[polar ermine]

I can't feed e.g. a copper miner and iron miner to one production station thingie but I'd build two?

[void cliff]

I tried explaining to you how to do this but you didn’t understand. Push H when placing the building and hold the building in place before placing it. You can also nudge it in directions while holding it.

You can’t “zoom out” in first person, this doesn’t make sense.

You can move while holding the building in place.

[vapid elbow]

What's a good production planner? It seems the calculator one is meh..

[frosty mirage]

Paper

And pen

🙂‍↕️

[vapid elbow]

No. :)

[frosty mirage]

Satisfactory tools is my go-to

[white dawn]

For a solver/calculator, my favorite is https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production. For a modeller/planner, a lot of folks like Satisfactory Modeller (on Steam)

[frosty mirage]

I've also heard about the modeller but that helps with logistics planning i think?

[white dawn]

Two different use-cases for those; they've got some superficial similarities but they solve different problems

[polar ermine]

h does lcok unlock the building - no idea what it is. I think just having a birds eye view makes a lot of sense for a game like that but we don't need todiscuss that now ^^

[frosty mirage]

Exactly

[dense violet]

Modeller you basically do it by hand. Takes way longer

[frosty mirage]

Build a lookout tower for higher ground to see better what u build if u wish to

[polar ermine]

ye someone said that, I don't have that yet but will keep an eye out for it

ah it's the next thing I get nice thanks

how do I generate biomass? I got that biomass burner but I don't see anything like a "miner for plants"

[vapid elbow]

Collect leaves

[polar ermine]

ok so stil lmanually thanks

[frosty mirage]

You go and gather manually

You can also craft biomass from animal remains once you craft them into animal protein

[polar ermine]

if the game says minute, does it mean an actual minute?

[finite mirage]

is 6.25 compter/m sufficient?

tier 6

and should i turn my modular frame factory into heavy modular factory? (would i need normal modular frames later?)

[violet brook]

Generally speaking you should plan on keeping production of earlier materials an just build a new factory

As an example, you still need mod frames for stuff like the foundry

At this point throttling mod frame production would probably be fine though if you have a stockpile, just don’t completely repurpose

[south sinew]

sadly you have to manually harvest biomass for the first phase, then in the second phase you unlock coal power right away, so I generally recommend rushing through the tech tree as fast as possible in phase one

[polar ermine]

eh it's not that bad - no idea what the tech tree is. the hub upgrade stuff?

[worldly jay]

yes, thats it. there is something you can probably do right now. in tier 2 you can research and craft the chainsaw, which will speed up your biomass collection by a lot

[nova coral]

Hello! i have a question. is it possible to have a male player character? or a robot or an alien? :D

[dense violet]

Could look at mods I guess

[nova coral]

wouldnt that keep me from unlocking achivements ? :(

[dense violet]

No

[nova coral]

ah ok :O

[polar ermine]

can I somehow see where in the world my portable miners are?

als oif I v a building do I get back 100% of the stuff?

[dense violet]

I would avoid anything that alters mechanics though for your first time through though

[toxic lichen]

dismantle building?

yes

anything you dismantle you get 100% back

[nova coral]

okie dokie! i just unlocked tier 3 & 4 :D im excited haha

[polar ermine]

and picked up portable miners would be in my inventory right?

[nova coral]

but thanks for the info peeps !

[toxic lichen]

yur

[polar ermine]

huh where the hell did I put them then xD I can't scan for them ro something?

[toxic lichen]

uhhhhh

hmm

scan for ore nodes
check em
ez pz

most likely at your closest node if you didnt venture far

[dense violet]

Does it matter? Just make more and go to the nodes you need

[toxic lichen]

they are cheap

i need to undo 90% of my factory
to make it more
manageable
great fun

i assume MK3 conveyors use smart plates to make?

or steel related stuff

[worldly jay]

steel beams

[toxic lichen]

fair enough

prefer that over smart plates

[dense violet]

One of those things 🙂

Go build a new factory - thats also an option

[toxic lichen]

no e'-e'

basically undoing all my shit

and focusing stuff at the nodes then bringing them back to store

[polar ermine]

is there a limit on how many portable miners I can place on a mine other than space? also is the node unlimited?

[white dawn]

Just beware the rebuild-burnout cycle. A lot of effort just to get back to the same level of functionality you already had, etc. :D So long as you're having fun, of course, go for it. But remember that teardown-and-rebuild is a choice, not a necessity. :)

[white dawn]

No limit other than space, and nodes will provide resources forever.

In general there's no great reason to go hog-wild with portable miners apart from just personal enjoyment, fwiw -- you get "permanent" automatic miners (with conveyor belt outputs) pretty soon, and those'll become your workhorses. You don't get too far into the game before you basically never use portable miners again.

[polar ermine]

yeah but stuff is far away

are power lines 1 cable/m? whats the unit here?

[toxic lichen]

no , idk the exact tho

[white dawn]

It's not 1 per meter, but you do use more the longer the cable is. I'm not sure what the actual rate is

[toxic lichen]

1 covers a decent amount of m tho

[white dawn]

Yeah, in practice that's a detail you're unlikely to be too concerned about

[polar ermine]

can I have a todolist that doesn't sum up all the parts?

[toxic lichen]

wym

[polar ermine]

I mean I wanna know befroe I start laying hundred meters of cable and stuff

[toxic lichen]

you can make a custom one iirc

[white dawn]

Physical notebook next to your keyboard, text file in a text editor, spreadsheet, etc... :)

[polar ermine]

for that Ineed to know the unit

[white dawn]

I suppose there is also the ingame freeform text in the todo list. :D

[ruby jay]

For cable I think it was max 100 meters and that consumes 4

[toxic lichen]

so 25m/per

[polar ermine]

well if I add something to todo it simply shouldnt sum up the parts.

[white dawn]

In general just make sure you've got some amount of cables automated and going into your own "storage." Make sure you've got a stack or two with you, and top it up when needed

[polar ermine]

ah that's way lower than I thought nice ^^

[white dawn]

I'd advise against stressing about that kind of thing too much; you can always just go grab more cables, etc. :)

Once you get to the next phase of the game you'll have fully-automated power, which makes it easier to just have constant production of items headed to your storage

[polar ermine]

how do I edit my todo list?

[white dawn]

Have to be in something like an inventory screen to access it; it's a bit weird

When you're in inventory you'll see a little grey area over to the right

[polar ermine]

ah yeah saw it thanks

ah wait im dumb it doesnt even sum it up but how do I choose a different item in my todo list then?

[white dawn]

There's two halves to it: one that sums up resources and such, and then a freeform text area. I thought you were looking for the freeform text area

To get the auto-summation stuff, you mouseover things in the build menu and use the plus/minus buttons which are in the upper corners of the items (you can also type in an actual number there, I believe)

[polar ermine]

I jsut want a list of stuff I wanan build really. I dont want the sum up thing. in controls I dont see any todo list controls so how do I navigate that list`?

[frosty mirage]

You take it slowly my man and you learn the game. Its impossible to build things and then never edit/dismantle them. In to-do list you can add several things, but just explore the game and go with the flow, learning will come naturally. Im still learning things after 110 hours

If you want to take something away from to do, you go to where you were when you added it and you should have an option to remove from to do list

[silent pagoda]

take it from me, building perfectly future-proof from the start, especially as a nee player, will make progress VERY slow

it’s a mistake i continue to make

[frosty mirage]

I unlocked trains and i still have to rebuild my iron factory in a vertical and modular design 😭

But the game keeps forcing my hand

[silent pagoda]

i rebuilt my entire factory because i outgrew my main bus design, i tried to factorio it and failed

not to mention i used trains totally wrong to start with

[frosty mirage]

My sidequests rn are rebuilding iron factory, figuring out what the hell to do with storage, fixing pipes on one of my coal setups, expanding my oil infrastructure and then probably moving on to other factories like heavy modulars

The storage thing will probably become a separate factory and i'll learn trains for it

My motor factory has a storage facility (basically 24m of storage) connected to the output

But my basic items come in a central storage area but its getting out of hand a bit

[fair aspen]

Is there a max limet for how long a hyper type can go?

[surreal rose]

just made sam factory, bye bye my copper

[peak plank]

Theres a speed you die at

[fair aspen]

At some point of it, we just fall out of it?

[surreal rose]

gotta make a new wire and cable factory somewhere with pure copper

[toxic lichen]

wdym

there are radioactive creatures ;-;

[surreal rose]

where?

[toxic lichen]

uhm

[peak plank]

I think its after you launch at that speed, but might be both

[fair aspen]

okay thx, i think my mate found it out 🙂

[brisk bison]

everywhere 💀

[grim scaffold]

hey does anyone else sometimes randomly get low fps?

I'm usually on 140~ fps and sometimes it just drops to 30, only on satisfactory
gpu is on 20% cpu 30% ram 50%

it's fixed when I restart the game

highest settings but it doesnt fix when I lower them

[humble osprey]

ye that does happen

[tall lantern]

VRAM, I think

[humble osprey]

idk how to fix it

[grim scaffold]

I have 16gb vram so probably not

task manager says 4gb is used

[unkempt blade]

my card doesn't like the setting for uncapped fps

[toxic lichen]

dbruh

where are they hiding the sams ;-;

[unkempt blade]

all over the place, keep looking I believe in you

[grim scaffold]

should I cap it?

[unkempt blade]

should you?

[toxic lichen]

at times my frames drop to 5-10
lowest settings
But suddenly my GPU Hits 99%

either fixes on restart or after a couple seconds

[sage nacelle]

are 20 or 10 encased industrial beams better a min? ( phase 4

[grim scaffold]

you mean is more or less better?

[clear mesa]

im not sure why in this case 10 would be better

[toxic lichen]

moar is always better

[sage nacelle]

cuz like i think its a little excessive considering how useful they are

like i only use them for hypertubes

[fading whale]

@fair aspen Hey. What are you distributing in your local area? 🙂

[toxic lichen]

man do i really need nobelisks

[fair aspen]

ahahaha the good stuff, my fellow Dansker

[fading whale]

Good tip when exploring, if you start hearing aliens sounds, there is likely a mercer sphere, somersloop, or... SAM ore near by.

[toxic lichen]

i listen to music ;-;

i js sniff them out

[unkempt blade]

nah not really

[toxic lichen]

nah im saying
i really like
Want em rn to rid myself of stinky rocks

but
i think i need plastic first
so
oil?

[fading whale]

Those or explosive rebar. Will be needed to remove boulders to get to some items, mines, or caves.

[toxic lichen]

parent node needs plastic thats the thing

unless

do some crash sites have plastic laying around?

skip a couple steps

[frosty mirage]

Is alternate diluted packaged fuel useful?

[humble osprey]

today found that if u hold the drop button, u can throw noblisks

i did not know this
for my entire life, ive been lousily droping noblisks

[frosty mirage]

Yea, the longer u hold the more it goes

[surreal rose]

theres more pure copper nodes than one in desert

[keen lion]

hello im new to satisfactory i saw people building their bases on like actual building blocks and i was wondering how do they get the raw iron from the miners above it?

[surreal rose]

and i don't really care about radiation since their radiation really weak

[surreal rose]

wdym "above it"

[frosty mirage]

With conveyors belts

But also if you place a foundation on a node, the miner will still work if placed

[keen lion]

why can't i send photos here? and wouldn't that just give me the red outline and tell me that's not how belts work ive just started so idk alot

[keen lion]

really??

that's cool

[frosty mirage]

Belts transport things, there is also conveyor lifts for vertical transportation

[keen lion]

oh yeah i remember seeing something like that i just unlocked it actually

but my base is a total spaghetti mess

[surreal rose]

oh you probably use portable miner thats why it shows you red outline, you need miner mk1 with conveyor output for that

[regal helm]

You get these elevator like things that let you bring materials down. Very helpful for factories with levels. You'll open them as you complete task in the hub

[frosty mirage]

It would be weird if it wouldnt be a mess

[keen lion]

yeah i got the mk1 a long time ago just never tried to put a fondation ontop of the node lol

[surreal rose]

wait a second, you can't place miner or something?

[keen lion]

yeah its just squares going above eachother and I CAN STACK STORAGE CRATES????

[keen lion]

i could i just thought that placing the belt then moving it upwards the belt would get a red outline telling me i can't place the belt

[surreal rose]

ohhh

[coral marsh]

@rugged jasper your Fused Modular Frames factory is beautiful

[keen lion]

oooooo show me i wanna see

even tho im not too sure what modular frames are tbh

[coral marsh]

#screenshots

[rugged jasper]

Thank you so much 🙂

[keen lion]

oh wait i prob shouldn't look cuz spoilers and all that

[regal helm]

I think screenshots are safe.

[surreal rose]

don't worry, you wont understand what any of those machines for

[keen lion]

i saw it and i think my laptop is scared of what'll happen when i play this game more

[keen lion]

fair point they do look cool tho

[surreal rose]

finally made a couple dd, no more worrying about flying across the map to get something

and i just realised i typed finally as finnaly all my years

[regal helm]

Btw you can stack mergers and splitters too

[frosty mirage]

Yes and connect with conveyors lifts

Between them

[frosty mirage]

Heey nadjah, all good?

[dire meteor]

what is the best way to move nitrogen gas. in a raw or packaged way?

[timid sedge]

Hellow guys, can someone help me? I have production of 600 m3 of fuel from blender, it goes into a mk2 pipe and into chemical plants for plastic consuming precisely 600m3 of fuel, but machines at the end of the pipe constantly stops, despite everything is good with numbers. (I checked twice) Am i dumb or pipes don't work as intended&

[rugged jasper]

All good today, thanks for asking.
atm I try to find a new base location
How are you ?

[toxic lichen]

how do you build like
More platforms at once again?

oh nvm

[fickle locust]

Packaged. You move 4x the resources via packaged gas than keeping it gas

[dire meteor]

ty

[toxic lichen]

these hogs are really getting their revenge on me

ive been knocked off a cliff like 3 times in the last 10 minutes

[frosty mirage]

Im fine, on my way to the climbing gym. Sad a bit that i had to work all day and couldnt so some work on my factories, but i did get to make a run for some mercers to upgrade my dimensional depots in MAM. I laid down a small sam build yesterday so yea

[fickle locust]

Pipes are a bit unintuitive and don't work quite like conveyers. Easiest fix is set up a loop, split your pipe exiting the blender and connect one end to the front of the group of machines, the other end to the back

[frosty mirage]

your aluminum build is insane btw, just saw it, wow

[timid sedge]

Oh, would adding another pipe, splitting it in two, work?

[fickle locust]

I'm not sure what you're suggesting that's different from what I said

If you mean two groups of 300 that also works

[timid sedge]

yes

[rugged jasper]

Sounds great ! I hope you will have a great time in the gym.! 🙌

dimensional depots is just the best thing in-game, it makes things so much easier all the sudden.

Thank you, I did spend awful amount of hours on my new factory🙈 so much is going on my PC just go brrrrr all the time im there 😄
so I think it is time for a new location to build hehe

[fickle locust]

The reason this is happening is because pipes don't always slow at their max rate. As a result, if you have 450 fluid going through, sometimes it'll only be 300 and sometimes it'll go to 600, but in the end that valances. Obviously at 600 required, it can't ever flow faster than 600, so you end up throttled. By splitting and making two groups (or making a single loop) you allow fluid to flow at max 600 in either direction as relevant, which balances things out

[frosty mirage]

Im stil trying to understand dimensional depots, not yet 100% how they work. My storage is getting out of hand though so i rly need them. Im surprised ur pc is brrrr

Ur config is rly good

[fickle locust]

Oh wow that's a huge FMF factory, well done

[rugged jasper]

I just sink everything when one storage if full with a item. 🤭 🙈

true, but I do have everything on ultra - native graphics so when there is a million things in-game all at once it does have to work a little bit 🤭

[hollow ravine]

how do machines handle reapeating decimals on overclock %? if i overclock a machine 33.3333 will the machine starve for an instant

[rugged jasper]

I will go afk for a little bit @frosty mirage, it is time to make dinner 😋
have a good time in the gym 🙌

[toxic lichen]

im being bullied away from a crash site :(

[void cliff]

Gas Nobelisks in that situation lol

[toxic lichen]

radioactive hog
and the biggest "fuck off" hog ive ever seen

[scenic mirage]

explosive rebar is decent

but ammo would be better

[toxic lichen]

i need plastic for that

[scenic mirage]

so get to work pioneer 🫡

[toxic lichen]

i want the harddrives :(

[frosty mirage]

Thank youuu! Enjoy your dinner 💯💯

[toxic lichen]

i seriously js got bullied so hard

as im running away

big spitter, 2 mini spitters
and a big ass spider

that area is very not cash money

[scenic mirage]

pink forest?

[toxic lichen]

nope

btw
is SAM actually an ore e'-e'

[scenic mirage]

yeah you find nodes

[toxic lichen]

hmmmmm
interesting

like in caves?
in a specific biome e'-e'

[scenic mirage]

yeah most are in caves, diff biomes

[rugged jasper]

In caves, or on very high mountains

[toxic lichen]

i see

[pure ledge]

for some reason a super spacious intersection i made is giving me "signal loops in to itself" errors

[scenic mirage]

if you just wanna complain ab signals (valid) this is the right channel, but if you want help w it then send some pics in #1038092680493801533 😄

[pure ledge]

ayeaye

[hoary light]

is there any proper ways to load your gun? i always have annoying issue of not being able to use any gun or explosives because it says 0/1 of X type of ammo while my inventory is fuilled with Y type of ammo

i only find solution to drop gun on ground and take it back, but no way thats the only way

[scenic mirage]

hold R

you can change the type of ammo you're reloading

[hoary light]

oo! that helps, thank you

[junior creek]

do leaves/bushes grow back again after some time passes?

[versed cosmos]

i've been told the ones you pick up respawn but anything you chainsaw is destroyed permanently

never seen bushes respawn myself though but maybe that's because i build foundations over them

[junior creek]

oke thanks

[toxic lichen]

i assume
imma need some SAM

to unlock the somersloop stuff in machines ive seen in a video

[scenic mirage]

🤔 maybe

[thorn onyx]

Building a rocket fuel plant and realize it will take 4,000 m^3 of nitrogen gas. The map, with 250% clock speed, only has 12,000. This was meant to be a mid-game turbo fuel plant but I decided to make rocket fuel so guess it’s my late game now.

[toxic lichen]

go big or go home

can you send gifs here

i need to know how someone made something but ive only seen it in gif form

[zenith pecan]

No gif embeds here, it just doesn't work, the tenor link will appear but it just won't embed.

[white dawn]

Can post rando screenshots for public perusal in #screenshots , though with a question attached they're better sent in #1038092680493801533

Depending on the question you could also use #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta

[toxic lichen]

i figured out an apt description for it

its a power slug
on a little conveyor looped into a circle
so he js spins

how do i put the slug there

[zenith pecan]

I never figured a satisfactory way to put a circle belt with objects just going around.

[white dawn]

Put it in a storage container to get it onto a belt; there's various ways to construct an actual loop

[toxic lichen]

ahhhh
i was concerned about the how to get him on the belt

that makes
so much sense cant believe i didnt think of it

[zenith pecan]

I tend to put objects on pedestals in glass boxes a lot.

[white dawn]

Once way is to do half a circle and belt it on there, then deconstruct the "feeder" and then close the belt loop

[toxic lichen]

i want spinning slugs cause a pretty girl told me to do it ;-;

[zenith pecan]

My old save had a single plutonium waste on display, I have no idea why but it vanished 🙁

[toxic lichen]

i ate it

[zenith pecan]

Doubtful unless you have a 64gb pc to load that save and a copy of it 😛

[toxic lichen]

so like
they wouldnt hide a SAM node under explode able rocks would they?

oh nvm i climbed the wrong mountain tower thing

[zenith pecan]

I have found some SAM in irritating places, hard to find cave entrances etc.

The one to the south of the blue crater is one, the entrance being on the cliff wall at the bottom of the map took me a few minutes to find.

[toxic lichen]

sometimes i feel like im playing fortnite with how i have to get up these mountains

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
thank GOD

[toxic lichen]

js got an achiement for a big fuck ass hog slapping me off a cliff going 140km/h

[scenic mirage]

W

[zenith pecan]

Building up and around mountains is the main reason I elected to build tunnels.

[toxic lichen]

if you die twice

do both death crates stay
or only the latest

[unkempt blade]

the less recent one gets eaten by a giant cat monster

[surreal rose]

Both

[pallid ridge]

#screenshots message

is it safe to build on edge like this?

[surreal rose]

Tho it will transfer resources from recent death to older one untill it's full

[unkempt blade]

it's already built...

[toxic lichen]

finally climbed up the mountain for some SAM ;-;

[pallid ridge]

yeah, but tearing it down now will be less painful than later

so, it isn't safe?

[unkempt blade]

did it seem safe while you were building there?

[toxic lichen]

Whats a good starter amount of SAM

I’m not coming back here until I have a jet pack to make building 1000x easier

Have something holding down my e key
So I can afk it as much as needed

[pallid ridge]

yes

nothing weird happened unless i fall into the water

[zenith pecan]

Not sure on starter amount, I actually mined all the SAM and sent it to the dunes.

[unkempt blade]

both portable and normal miners are a thing

[toxic lichen]

yes
but
im not climbing this mountain again

unlessssss

i make a pathway down instead of just
jumping to my death and collecting my crate

[unkempt blade]

seems like a pretty good option if the alternative is "afk with the button held down"

[toxic lichen]

indeed indeed

thats gonna be 1 hella long conveyor

and energy poles

may as well build the pathway at t he very least

dont wanna convert anymore slugs till i can double em

[zenith pecan]

All the worlds SAM in one place #screenshots message

[toxic lichen]

sam only got me so far

i need steel production stuff now
So i guess i gotta stop procrastinating revamping my set up

[modern vale]

Am I the only one that made 20 portable miners and filled my inv a dosen times with SAM?

[zenith pecan]

My initial SAM was just a miner feeding a container, saves emptying portables and later my inventory.

[toxic lichen]

please tell me
the rifle is gonna be less disappointing than the rebar gun

[clear mesa]

im back

last message i remember is you talking about fixxit

was it a hardware or software issue that you have?

[clear mesa]

rifle is beautiful...best addition in the game

[white dawn]

Honestly if you're finding the rebar gun disappointing, I expect you might find the same about the rifle. :D Lotta rounds to kill some of the bigger enemies

Rebar gun is A+ once you're used to it. Some of the alt ammos really help it shine, but well-placed rebar is often quite good

(That said, Homing Rifle Ammo + Jetpack == easy mode, for combat)

[toxic lichen]

well
do i need to load each individual shot into the rifle?

[white dawn]

heh, no

I still find it a bit odd that we don't use rebar for any buildings. Should need it for pillars and stuff, at least

[scenic mirage]

hardcore mod, rebar or buildings collapse

[white dawn]

(And I do kind of feel like the rifle should've been something "repurposed," much like the rebar gun is. Rifle has always felt a little out of place to me)

Though I'm not sure what else would've made sense in its place. :D

[unkempt blade]

Satis is an awesome game but the combat part has always felt a little forced

[white dawn]

Just lift Quake's nailgun, maybe. Keep it pixellated. :D

[white dawn]

Yeah, I was thrilled when they added the ability to set enemies to peaceful/retaliate

[clear mesa]

all we need is a flamethrower powered by packaged fuel/turbo/rocket, doing more damage depending on the type

[white dawn]

I actually did keep mob hostility on for much of my 1.0 playthrough, but I eventually tired of it again before I'd finished

[unkempt blade]

the hostiles break up exploration a little but the actual fighting itself is pretty basic/unchallenging

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's nice for adding a bit of danger to the exploration element but apart from running into "big" creatures you're not prepared for yet, there's not a lot of actual challenge

[clear mesa]

i mean i suppose it wasn't much of their focus

it may eventually get a rehaul but i doubt

quite literally does just "break up exploration" and makes the world feel more alive

[white dawn]

I was surprised when it got the overhaul that it did, back in the update that added more ammo types and such

[clear mesa]

would make more sense if animals were territorial rather than purely instantly hostile

[midnight wagon]

Oh God I spent so long trying to make a small factory of rotors and reinforced iron plate. I feel as though I'd lost all my sanity. :

[toxic lichen]

when can i make caterium ingots?

dont see it in the crafting bench ;-;

[clear mesa]

research it in the MAM

[toxic lichen]

maam e'-e'

[midnight wagon]

You've got to research them in the MAM first.

[toxic lichen]

i was able to research the ore

[clear mesa]

you researched the ability to scan the ore

[toxic lichen]

omg
im so fucking blind

ignore me

[midnight wagon]

It takes 60 raw caterium ores in total to unlock the first two stages. The second, which asks for 50, is the one that allows you to melt them into ingots.

[toxic lichen]

yea
So im ngl

i saw the ingot and thought
it wanted ingots ;-;

[clear mesa]

understandable mix up

[wary falcon]

how do people make their factories so nice i literally just build a box and make the conveyors neat

[midnight wagon]

I'm so behind D: I put off rotos and reinforced iron plates and basically spearheaded my way through tier 3. I just created the factory for the former, but haven't even touched the foundry yet

[wary falcon]

i manually crafted untill i needed to make motors so i spent like 15 hours straight building every factory 😭

[clear mesa]

faced with the consequences of your own actions tsk tsk tsk

[toxic lichen]

i view it in the same way as people that can make a nice looking base in minecraft

[wary falcon]

but imo, making a nice base in minecraft really only has one issue, making a nice base but with satisfactory you have to make a nice base, and make an efficient base

[toxic lichen]

make efficient

build around it

also
is there a better way to power stuff than spaghetti cables running everywhere

[wary falcon]

true i guess but will that help me make walkable factories i see online lol

[midnight wagon]

I honestly haven't tried to make anything look neat so far. I just need things to output stuff that I can use. I did make a logistics floor to hide away all the conveyor action, but I did it so that I could work with a smaller grid.

I've got the ground and second floor set up as logistics floors and first and third as processing.

[wary falcon]

see i always do the regular neat spagehti type thing and as im building it i think it looks amazing but then its built and its so ugly lol

[wary falcon]

is the logistic floors neat aswell or no?

[midnight wagon]

All the output gets taken to a storage unit in their respective logistics floor, but they're also connected to two other storage units right outside the factory, mainly for convenience so that I don't have to traverse the building whenever I need the items.

[crisp crane]

I’m thinking of getting into mods. Are there any you’d recommend to provide a new challenge?

[wary falcon]

wow smart, i just travel 1000+ meters every tiome i need steel or anything lol

[midnight wagon]

It certainly looks more organised than having both the machines and conveyor belts crammed together in the same level, but sorting the whole thing out was a complete pain.

[wary falcon]

ill try it out next time, ty

also what do yall recomend i use excess polymer resin for, making plastic/rubber seems like a waste of time

[midnight wagon]

I'll tag you in the screenshot channel

[wary falcon]

it looks nice, can i see the processing floor?

[midnight wagon]

It could definitely be a bit more organised, but it was the first time I made something like that. I just tagged you. On the other processing floor, I was able to put more machines together cause I organised it a tad better.

I made them with the sole purpose of making sure that I can at least output those small quantities. The factory itself has no room to expand nor mess with ratios of any kind. It will have to be taken apart eventually.

[mystic crag]

Is steam good rn?

[void cliff]

I think step 1 is to build with the terrain and abandon the idea of the world grid.

[white dawn]

Practice practice practice. Hang out in #design-and-architecture and keep an eye on #screenshots ; when you see something you like, try to duplicate it. You'll eventually find styles which work well for you. Though decoration does take a lot of time; often a lot more than the actual factory builds.

Other sources of inspiration could be, for instance, https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?meta[]=architecture

Of course even if you're "just" building a box, liberal use of windows and ceilings and such can make even a mere box look Pretty Good™. All depends on what your own standards are for your own builds. :)

[white dawn]

On my most recent playthrough, my computer+HSC factory got 100% of its oil from the Resin byproduct from my diluted fuel power setup

In the end there's nothing else to do with it apart from convert to plastic+rubber (or fabric, of course), so you might as well. More of a waste to just let it sink, technically. :)

[scenic mirage]

ayo wtf can the radiation hog chase me up the ladder of a lookout tower 😭

[white dawn]

Rad hogs are pretty tenacious; whenever I take them on pre-rifle I'll generally construct myself awfully-tall platforms using catwalks

I wouldn't think they'd be able to actually climb a ladder, though. They do have projectile attacks

[void cliff]

For rad hogs I get out the WMD’s and commit war crimes against them and the environment.

[scenic mirage]

im at that one sam node w the hard drive and rad hogs nearby

almost finished w phase 2

[white dawn]

One way to cheese rad hogs, assuming there's only one of them, is Stun Rebar. Can keep them permanently stunlocked, though it takes ages to whittle down their health with the Stun Rebar (like the better part of a whole stack)

[void cliff]

Pre-phase 2, I just avoid rad hogs. Stun rebar is really powerful. I would often keep 2 rebar guns with me at this point. But you have to keep range on them. After you get nobelisks and gas nobelisks gas nobelisks become the weapon of choice for them.

Stun and shatter rebar for the elite spiders

[gritty junco]

pipes < vehicles in terms of difficulty
idk if this is a hot take but ive been trying to build a path for 2 straight hours and im just about ready to start using conveyor busses

[void cliff]

Vehicles are fairly difficult but know that you can delete NODES if you mess up! Makes them a lot more forgiving. But usually you still need to clear paths ahead of time

[gritty junco]

it just refuses to load!
WHY
i drive up to the station when recording
i SEE the tooltip
i press F

[gritty junco]

NOTHING HAPPEEEENS

[jovial wing]

Hey guys, new to satisfactory and LOVE IT a lot.
Wondering if there's any neat site to help build planning that people are using? 🙏

[gritty junco]

i dont know whats HAPPENIIING

load is on in the station

it shoudl be working

but no

[white dawn]

You don't actually manually load/unload when recording paths, btw. Once the path is completed, the game will automatically insert yellow "pause" nodes at the stations. Once the automated vehicle arrives at a station, the station will do whatever it's been configured to do

There is indeed some weirdness with hitting load/unload manually while driving; I think it might be down to mismatches between what you're trying to do on the vehicle and what's configured at the station

[pastel dawn]

I wish vehicle headlights wouldn't keep randomly turning on lol

[gritty junco]

WHO DID THIS

[white dawn]

But regardless of what causes the weirdness, you don't need to manually load/unload anyway -- the route recording completely ignores that

I agree it'd be nice if the game communicated that to you. :)

[pastel dawn]

I did this for a very long time until I realized it wasn't necessary.

[white dawn]

One other thing to note re: vehicle paths, btw -- if you see any blue pause nodes on your recorded path (due to pausing for a bit during recording), make sure to go up to them and delete them. There's a bug in the game where vehicles could get stuck there until you manually intervene, if you load a game which happened to be saved while a vehicle's at a blue pause node

(The yellow ones actually have a bit of a glitch as well; if you load a save with a vehicle at a station's yellow pause node, the pathfinding for the vehicle might go a bit mad for a few seconds. Should auto-recover, though, and IME the vehicle won't ever actually get stuck)

(I assume it's the same root cause affecting both; would be nice if that eventually got fixed. :)

[west leaf]

does anyone know how i can delete an explorer that fell into the void, sadly my earliest autosave is already after it fell down so i cant load another autosave

[white dawn]

If you're on console, no, alas. If you're on PC, though, you can delete it (or move it back above ground) using SCIM

[west leaf]

waht is SCIM

[white dawn]

(https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map)

[white dawn]

Slow with the URL-finding; on mobile. Anyway, that ^

[west leaf]

ok thanks

[jovial wing]

Hey guys, new to satisfactory and LOVE IT a lot.
Wondering if there's any neat site to help build planning that people are using? 🙏
I really want help in creating more efficient setups for maximized output

[reef basin]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ is often used

[quartz yoke]

@jovial wing shout out for Satisfactory Modeller for free on steam

[scenic mirage]

sf modeler the goat

[jovial wing]

Really cool, thanks both of you! Will check them out

What's a good way to transfer raw material between bases? I'm struggling to get neccessary recourses to different locations. Just got to phase 3

[scenic mirage]

transport constructed materials

so much easier to transport 5 frames/min than 600 iron/min or whatever

[jovial wing]

Transport on conveyor belts?

Just unlocked trains a few minutes ago but haven't gotten to building any

[scenic mirage]

what do you have unlocked

how far

[white dawn]

I always do smaller independent factories which are sited right next to the nodes they need. Transferring raw materials is for suckers. :D

[jovial wing]

I've unlocked everything tier 0-5

[white dawn]

(Well, not always, but nearly always. :)

[jovial wing]

Haha I feel ya. How do you transfer the components when they're done?

[white dawn]

My factories only output to my own personal storage, so unless I've decided to build a "central storage" solution, I basically don't

If some other factory needs some of the resource I just made, I make more right inside the new factory

Though when I do need logistics, I'm honestly fond of basically all the choices. So I'll use vehicles/trains/drones depending on the situation and what I've got unlocked

[jovial wing]

To create Motor for example I need iron, coal and copper

So do I find a place where all those resources are together to extract?

Haven't found any spot like that so far x)

[white dawn]

(I'm not fond of long belts, so I rarely use those.)

[scenic mirage]

coal for motors?

[jovial wing]

I guess for steel

[white dawn]

Yeah, basically. Or leverage alt recipes so that you have different resource requirements

[scenic mirage]

do you have alt recipes

[white dawn]

For motors in particular, with the right alts you can make them out of nothing but Iron, for instance. It's very iron-inefficient, but iron's everywhere so who cares. :D

[reef basin]

I care, I don't want to spend 10000 iron to make one motor 😛

but yeah one way is pure iron. There's tons of other ways tho, depends on how you combine recipes and which resources you have available.

[gritty junco]

500 billion screws

[white dawn]

But yeah, map expansion and alt recipe usage go hand-in-hand. I may end up using four different recipes for the same resource, over the course of a playthrough, 'cause I'm producing it inside multiple factories all over the map, as an intermediate product

[scenic mirage]

aww guys ada just said i was the most valuable pioneer 😳

[reef basin]

there can be only one

[scenic mirage]

yeah, its me

[white dawn]

Anyway, realized I hadn't actually really addressed the question: by Phase 3, Trains are the usual go-to for high-throughput transfers like raw resources. Trains are more or less custom built for that kind of thing

Depending on the factory you can get away with other options as well -- I've even used drones for raw materials in some cases. But trains are often the usual suspect if it's something you're doing. :)

[scenic mirage]

drones are rlly good for uranium imo

[jovial wing]

Drones

That sounds nice

[white dawn]

It's well worth building out rail infrastructure even if you're not transferring raw resources. Rail gets better and better the more of it you have. And you end up with a lovely pioneer-transit method as well. :)

[drowsy kelp]

It even drives itself

So when you need to go somewhere just plug in the station and go

[white dawn]

Drones' main drawback is the 9-stack limit per drone -- you may need a number of ports for a single resource, depending on the throughput you're trying to put through 'em

Though that's not really that much different conceptually from adding another freight car to a train. :)

In the end, any of the logistics methods can be built out to support whatever throughput you want

[jovial wing]

I'll try my first 'motor factory'. Running to a new spot with correct resources and just optimizing for Motors

[polar ermine]

if item a is in the input of consturctor but i need item b how do I remove item a? picking it up is very cumbersome

[jovial wing]

Then transport that however... And see how it goes 😛

[drowsy kelp]

Can you not put more drones on the same loop between two ports

[drowsy kelp]

Deconstruct and rebuild the conveyor to clear it

[white dawn]

A drone has a "home" port and a single destination port. You can indeed have two drones going back and forth between two ports, but that's the limit

[polar ermine]

ok ty

[white dawn]

You can have multiple ports configured to go to a single destination port (which IMO works much better for picking up material than delivering it)

But you can't really get away from needing more drone ports at some point, if you're pushing throughput up

[drowsy kelp]

So it’s home and destination and back, what’s stopping you from adding more actual drones to the loop

[white dawn]

What's the "home port" for the drones beyond the first two?

[drowsy kelp]

What?

[white dawn]

Port A has a drone configured to go to Port B. Port B has a drone configured to Port A.

Any other drone which wants to go to port A or B needs to have its own home port (C, D, etc)

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah

[white dawn]

Drones only go between their home and a single destination

[drowsy kelp]

But what i’m saying is why not add multiple drones with A as home and B as target

Or multiple B homes and A target

[white dawn]

Because you can't do that. Port A can only have a single drone as its "home" drone

[void cliff]

Drones do get annoying when the ports get clogged full. I start sinking valuable components when this happens because it’s necessary to guarantee smooth operations.

[drowsy kelp]

At least you get tickets for it

[white dawn]

Start up an AGS save and plop down a few ports and give it a try. :)

[drowsy kelp]

I’ve never used drones which is why i was asking

[void cliff]

Particularly I use drones to bring bottled nitrogen all over the place. I often end up sinking both empty and full bottles, lol

[reef basin]

each drone has one home port
each port can be home to only one drone
one port can be visited by multiple drones

practically, between two ports you can have maximum of two drones

[white dawn]

The solution to that is to make sure the ports never get clogged. :) If my drone ports' internal buffers don't empty out properly inbetween deliveries, then I know I've configured my drones wrong. :)

[void cliff]

Yep just have to sink stuff or else it backs up somewhere and will back up in the bottling or the bottle delivery because of it

[polar ermine]

how come my chainsaw died? is there like a fuel in there?

[drowsy kelp]

Wdym died

[void cliff]

Chainsaw should be able to operate off of any jetpack fuel

[drowsy kelp]

The chainsaw does need fuel

[drowsy kelp]

No, it’s solid biofuel only

[void cliff]

should be able to

[white dawn]

I think you've got some configuration "problems" with that. ("Problems" in quotes because if you don't think it's a problem then obviously who else cares. :D). I do generally have emergency sinks set up for "bulk" deliveries for stuff like vehicles/trains/drones, but on a "properly" working system, the sink will be idle 100% of the time

[polar ermine]

well I can't make fuel tho?

[white dawn]

Including with packaging loops. You shouldn't ever have stuff sinking in a packaging loop like that unless there's a problem somewhere

[void cliff]

Problem is that the drones delivering empty bottles is also collecting full ones and if either side backs up, the drones can’t land

[polar ermine]

ah solid biofuel

[unkempt blade]

you definitely can if you got the chainsaw

[polar ermine]

now I see it lol im blind

[white dawn]

re: chainsaw -- yeah, I think the only reason why the chainsaw doesn't take multiple fuels at this point is that the devs just haven't taken the time to make that change

Back in the day they had no fuel-source-switching UI/system in the game, but they added it in to jetpacks eventually. The same system could be used for the chainsaw

[white dawn]

I've done a lot of drone-based packaging loops -- in a fully-operational system, no part of the system will back up

Again, if you don't mind your sinking of resources on those loops, that's fine

[unkempt blade]

what benefit should better fuelds offer? that's the real question

[white dawn]

But having your drone ports back up is not an unavoidable part of drone configuration. You can do packaging loops like that with zero backups/sinking

[white dawn]

Hah, yeah, presumably just "burn time," although solid biofuel already kind of lasts forever. Really it's just an inventory-stack-saving measure, IMO. :D

Not that inventory space is that big of a deal nowadays

[frosty mirage]

My head hurts trying to understand oil

[scenic mirage]

what ab it

[clear mesa]

tsk tsk tsk

[frosty mirage]

I wanna build a proper oil infrastructure with everything that can be done with it but i think im too tired to understand the whole shenanigans with pacakgers, fuels and petroleum power

Or maybe im just too perfectionist with it

[clear mesa]

the latter

[glad hawk]

oil!?

[clear mesa]

make something small to grasp it, then perfect it, plenty of oil nodes to go around

[glad hawk]

those west coast oil reserves are easy to get to using a power line and i use them for oil when i playhed last time

[frosty mirage]

I prefer putting it down once and then expanding, but you know i like building with scalability in mind

[clear mesa]

yeah of course but there's no need to build too big, just enough to get an idea and tear it down after if need be

you really only need 3 buildings total to make plastic and rubber lol

[white dawn]

I'd recommend embracing the near-certainty that you're going to have to build out more than one oil processing site throughout your playthrough

[frosty mirage]

I do have plastic rubber and petroleum coke for sink already

[white dawn]

And spreading out your oil processing across a variety of sites will likely be more convenient than trying to centralize it all in one spot (IMO)

[frosty mirage]

But i wanna start using packagers and petroleum power

[clear mesa]

ah, turn your oil residue into fuel and power fuel generators instead of making petroleum coke to sink

[white dawn]

What exactly is giving you problems w/ packagers and fuel power, btw?

[void cliff]

Your consumption of packaged stuff produces bottles, so if your consumption is lower than your production (probably will be) eventually you get a backup problem. Priority mergers help, though. I’d have to go look at it to give you a better idea, but I’m maxing out a nitrogen extractor (1200 m3/min?

remote bottle factory brings the bottles over and doesn’t have enough production for 300 bottles/minute (not a problem, as we have recycling here).

Drones bring bottles to a drone hub at the nitrogen extractor. Packaging nitrogen at the hub at a max rate of 300 bottles/minute.

I’m generally only using them for nitro rocket fuel, I don’t remember the numbers exactly but I think it’s a simple 8-blender system, AND I’m not even burning all the rocket fuel (another issue). Those bottles dont all get recycled because they also go into bottling rocket fuel. Situation I ran into is having too much bottled nitrogen preventing drones from landing and picking up empty bottles. I’m sure I could balance production and consumption to fix it but a sink is easier to sort out quickly

[clear mesa]

no reason to sink that byproduct, it's very useful

[white dawn]

Is it the Packaged Diluted Fuel loop stuff in Phase 3?

[white dawn]

Easy solution: don't produce more than you consume. :)

Or at least, don't put more of your production into the drone packaging loop than is being consumed on the far side

[frosty mirage]

I think i just got lost in the recipes and byproducts tbh

[white dawn]

If your remote side needs 600/min Nitrogen, send 600/min nitrogen through your drone packaging loop.

[clear mesa]

it'll take some time getting used to but not a lot tbh..just play around with it and dont chase perfection first try

[frosty mirage]

Yea fair enough

Btw will alternate diluted packaged fuel be useful?

[clear mesa]

yeah

[frosty mirage]

Cause i do have it

[clear mesa]

you make more fuel using the diluted alts

youll unlock the version with no reason for a packager once you unlock the blender

[white dawn]

That plus the Heavy Oil Residue alt is the most oil-efficient way to make fuel (and forms the first step of the most-oil-efficient plastic/rubber production loops too)

Not necessary, of course, though folks wanting to maximize their oil usage will often use it

[clear mesa]

the trade off is you dont need to deal with packaging and unpackaging but it takes more electricity to power

[frosty mirage]

I think i passed on it... fuuck

[void cliff]

That changes as you expand your consumption/use for the given node. Such as adding more to the rocket fuel loop. The issue comes more from the fact that drones do dual duty while input/output is not balanced. Balancing it is an option but it’s not a very good one. Expand this example to something like Quartz Oscillators, where your production and consumption is probably less than 60/min and you have a bigger problem on your hands

[white dawn]

In Phase 3 you do need to deal with the packaging loop -- as n1c.wrld mentioned, once you get to Phase 4, you have access to a Blender version which is a bit nicer (though it's got the same resource ratios, so the difference doesn't matter too much)

[clear mesa]

takes more electricity though!

i still prefer the packaging loop...idk closed systems are fun to deal with

[white dawn]

I don't mean this in a bad way -- I suspect this sounds more hostile/dismissive than I mean it! -- but you're sort of creating your own problems here, is more what I'm getting at. :)

[fading whale]

Those are the best problems 😄

[white dawn]

You've set up a system which is problematic to manage and requires stuff like managing extra canisters to sink stuff and such

Mostly what I'm saying is that there are easy ways to build systems which avoid all these problems

[frosty mirage]

If i load an earlier save, will i be offered the same alts from drive scan?

[white dawn]

Properly-tuned packaging loops do not require having to sink packages and manage all that stuff -- the fact that yours do is a byproduct of the way you've set things up for yourself, not some inherent property of the drone packaging loop

As I say, I've done a lot of packaging loops throughout my playthroughs, and I've never had to sink anything as part of them, 'cause I always just send over exactly what I need.

[frosty mirage]

Or do they randomize no matter what?

[white dawn]

When something else needs more then I set up another logistics method for 'em, while leaving the original one intact

[clear mesa]

not sure actually

[reef basin]

they are randomised at the start of the scan

[clear mesa]

oo..so you'd need to go back before scan

i see

[void cliff]

Say you’re balancing crystal oscillator input with packaged rocket fuel output.

The only good solution is using more drone ports.

[frosty mirage]

So if i load the save with 1 min left i get to choose again between the same alts?

[reef basin]

yes

[frosty mirage]

Haha thats golden

[white dawn]

I wouldn't have put myself in the position of balancing crystal oscillator inputs with packaged rocket fuel outputs in the first place. :)

[sick falcon]

https://x.com/RTSG_News/status/2015593782033453402?s=20 china is doing satisfactory irl wow

[white dawn]

Though yes, with drone logistics, More Ports™ is often the way forward regardless. :)

[frosty mirage]

Are the rescans also working that way?

[reef basin]

no, rescan is instant

[white dawn]

If you're looking to cheese the system, btw, the rescans are not similarly pre-seeded

[void cliff]

I didn’t, but it’s just an example of why drone port input/output and using drones for dual duty is flawed

[frosty mirage]

Ah fk

[fading whale]

Keep in mind you WILL get all alts at some point.
And currently you can "only" be offered those that are available with what you have unlocked. So you can have more drives than available recipes resulting in you not even being able to roll for a new.

[reef basin]

though if you want to "cheat" like that, honestly just do save edit

[frosty mirage]

Cant remember if what i need was a rescan or not, but i'll just go explore for some more hard drives

[white dawn]

Okay, sure. :) Though using drones for dual-duty for packaging loops is perfectly fine, and you don't need to sink anything for those unless you've specifically set up the system to need it. I use the same drone for "fulls" and "empties" all the time and I don't have to sink things.

[reef basin]

yeah the answer is usually just "get more drives"

[polar ermine]

does a conveyer splitter not split evenly?

[fading whale]

The rescan might be the first option on the next drive you scan.

[reef basin]

it splits evenly if all outputs are free

[fading whale]

It does.

[quartz yoke]

getting more drives is the right answer, I managed to get geothermals online in 3 hours from start by thieving the materials around crash sites.

[frosty mirage]

I'll load up the earlier save later today or tomorrow to check if i can get the heavy oil residue alt

[white dawn]

Heh, I've still never done an early-geothermal runthrough; was thinking about going heavy into crash-site scavenging when I start a new one up. :D

[polar ermine]

but one side has less on it than the other visually but is also more fluid

[fading whale]

Easier to just go find a few more drives 🙂

[clear mesa]

different mk conveyors?

[reef basin]

get more drives 🙂

[polar ermine]

no same thing if I knew windows I'd send you a screenshot

[reef basin]

printscreen button 🙂

[frosty mirage]

Ye will do that, i need an exploration break anyway

[clear mesa]

or f12 on steam

[polar ermine]

ah I cant send images

[clear mesa]

#screenshots

[fading whale]

If you have all 3 outputs connected, every third item will got to each belt.

[frosty mirage]

Use #screenshots

[reef basin]

or better #1038092680493801533

[clear mesa]

yeah but his problem is "but one side has less on it than the other visually but is also more fluid"

[polar ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1465461345523859526/Screenshot_2026-01-26_223801.png?ex=697930bb&is=6977df3b&hm=9e36e16be6e2ec909c1ef58b11f3fbd8de238a1ccd227ff06400032c7b9f4fed

[clear mesa]

i'd assume it might just be showing up slower and why it's appearing more fluid

oh

the left smelter is full

[polar ermine]

ah the 100 ore thing? hwo do you see that

[clear mesa]

press e on smelter

[fading whale]

One is full (one stack in input.) other is not.

[polar ermine]

true but how do you see that? the smoke?

[clear mesa]

no way to other than the piled up ore on the conveyor

[fading whale]

If it's not moving, or moving slower, it's because that somewhere down stream (the smelter in this case) it is being blocked.

[fading whale]

It just means that you are mining faster than you are using. Or the left smelter was put online before the right one, making it fill up faster.

[polar ermine]

yeah I get all that but how did you see that from a screenshot

just deduction or visually indicator?

[fading whale]

It's the only reason for that to happen 🙂

[polar ermine]

ok good thank you

[clear mesa]

you'll get pretty good at diagnosing things just by seeing them

there's only a set amount of things that can go wrong

[fading whale]

If the smelter wasn't showing any output, and the feed is full, it's likely because you selected a wrong recipe.
It'll come to you pretty naturally as you progress. You'll even get used to the sounds 😄

[clear mesa]

granted sometimes it wont be so obvious

[undone citrus]

Every time I think I have pipes figured out and I go to build a new coal plant I'm proven wrong

I cry in despair

[real shale]

Pipes my beloved

[undone citrus]

I'm "new" but honestly not really anymore

Owned the game about 1.5 months but have 350 hours now

And I still suffer. Sometimes it works sometimes I ask myself why

[clear mesa]

there's a lot of odd fixes to fluids that arent so obvious to be fair

[fading whale]

Yeah. That bit never changes 😂

[undone citrus]

I know most of them now, that's where the suffering part comes in when I can't figure something out lol

[real shale]

The best way to approach pipes is to design them as simply as possible, just from point A to point B and minimal merging, splitting etc etc

Pipes are.....very fussy about load balancing in particular which is why I've always ran them in a manifold configuration (unless I accidentally create a load balanced pipe that shuts off 30 fuel generators)

[clear mesa]

🤷‍♂️ i've never had anything too bad honestly but then again i've had a nice system...if it's not broken don't change it

[full tulip]

It's been a year+ since I've been playing and I'm trying to remember how to run power poles correctly. I'm doing something pretty dumb here....

I have 2 connected poles, selected to build a power pole, highlighted the cable but it's creating a new pole connected to the first but not the second, and only once. Wtf am I getting wrong?

[undone citrus]

My friend bought the game yesterday and was building his power plant so I wanted to help and teach him, but I failed the piping 😭

The I had to leave so I left the world open, apparent before the game crashed he figured it out which is just depressing on my end cause he has 4 hours lol

[clear mesa]

to be fair the issue can sometimes be staring at you right in the face :p

[fading whale]

Select cable. Click pole you want to connect from, then your next click with put down a new pole with a wire from the first pole.

[undone citrus]

It took me 7 hours of troubleshooting to get my piping for my refinery building running, was so fun. Splitting 6 pipes into groups of 100 water and 1100 water. Scary

[clear mesa]

errr why would you split into 6 pipes though?

would it not be better to manifold 2?

or am i just not understanding

[real shale]

This, splitting pipes into groups of a certain value is a recipe for disaster

[full tulip]

Thank you! I was feeling about as bright as a half-watt bulb 🙃

[undone citrus]

I ended up with splitting into 4 using some weird thrown together 6-4 ratio

Was pain and definitely isn't optimal but my machines run at 100% efficiency

[real shale]

I mean if it works, thats great, but load balancing pipes is a recipe for a headache

[clear mesa]

You need to get into the habit of manifolding :p

It will reduce your pipe troubles doublefold

[real shale]

Yeah

[undone citrus]

I can't really do that when I need 3 pipes minimum

[real shale]

There's always a way with the holy manifold

[clear mesa]

1200 is 2 mk2 pipes and you can still yeah

[fading whale]

Well there are a few options. And it behave a bit different between poles, wall connectors and double connectors.
To get up to speed, put down a few walls, poles and connectors. The try the different build options. Attach pole or connector to existing wire. Extend to new pole. From pole to connector. You'll get it back quick 🙂

[undone citrus]

I did some sort of Manifold it's just sloppy

I used 4 pipes cause I have 4 industrial fluid buffers

[real shale]

The problem with load balancing fluids is that rounding errors makes stuff like valves hard to use and it's just overall painful to accomplish

[clear mesa]

Yeah you probably also shouldn't be using buffers either :p

Buffers are only really useful for train stations

[real shale]

Buffers are only really useful for train stations

[clear mesa]

yup

[real shale]

Jinx

[mortal ginkgo]

THey look cool tho'

[clear mesa]

honestly half the reason i joined this server was to learn...and there are a lot of things about fluids you dont learn until you see a few dozen problems getting hotfixed in front of you

[real shale]

They do it's just a shame that a lot of the fluid related items are....useless in most cases really

[undone citrus]

I mean the tutorials I've seen have stated gravity is your best friend

So water towers help

[fading whale]

Aside from cosmetics, they also make it less risky if you need to move a power cable, or re-route a pipe.

[clear mesa]

that always remains true but there's no reason to put it in a buffer anyways

buffers and valves are known to cause flow issues

[undone citrus]

Yeah this was the other reason I forced it to work, cause they looked cool lol

[clear mesa]

the only reason buffers are there are because they look cool for a "water tower"

[fading whale]

But a water tower really just needs to be a pipe that goes and then back down. You don't need a tank at the top.

[real shale]

I just wish valves restricted to their actual listed values

[mortal ginkgo]

Well it would be a "Pipe Tower" then! All Water Towers need a buffer at top, d'oh!

[real shale]

Rather than giving some odd decimal value

[undone citrus]

But my brain won't settle for anything slightly weird looking

It all must look good lol

Only strategic clipping or very clear seperation and right angles

[fading whale]

Same here. I put tanks all over the place. On top of towers too. Including a bit of visible pipe at the top so I at a glance can see if it is full and there is a flow.

[undone citrus]

It would be so nice if they actually worked the way I imagined

Like actually heavenly if they did

[undone citrus]

I love pipe and tower decoration for industrial decoration, and if I can make them functional that's even better

I'm curious if you guys are team strategic clipping for things like design or team absolutely no clipping

[fading whale]

Meh. Functional is a lot optional at many of my factories 😄

[real shale]

I am team "what happens in the logistics floor stays in the logistics floor"

My factories are the epitome of that one Homer Simpson meme where he's holding all his fat on his back with clips

[undone citrus]

Lmao true

I hate the coal location in the north forest so much for that

[fading whale]

Both. To make a compact balancer in a blueprint, I will clip it into the 4'th dimension.

[undone citrus]

No piping room underneath the way I built it

And 12 water extractors BARELY fit

[real shale]

Oh yeah, last I played I sucked all of the bauxite out of the red forest into one mega factory

[fading whale]

I'll also clip a wall into a building, if it "makes sense".

[undone citrus]

I clip for some designs

[real shale]

I need to continue operation destroy the red forest

[undone citrus]

But mostly keep it separated

My friend likes merging different foundation types for wall designs

Red forest is my oil tycoon

[real shale]

People are who pro nature preservation in this game baffle me, I am pro destroy everything in this game

[undone citrus]

I wanna drag the oil up into an oil factory, probably a hard and dumb idea but would look cool

[real shale]

That one resource well is used for me to produce 5400 coke a minute

[undone citrus]

But liquid work.. the trauma

[unkempt blade]

it's just kind of a weird game to be a murder hobo in but we're all super impressed at how good you are at combat

[undone citrus]

I use the oil at the bottom of the cliff in that like marsh/beach area sharing the border or red and north forest but plan to claim the oil geyser things when I can

[real shale]

The planet yearns to be exploited

[undone citrus]

I am pro keep you damn wildlife out of my ass when I'm building on a cliff

[fading whale]

I like my trees.
When putting down rail, I do the track first. Then only remove the trees the track or train will clip through.

[real shale]

a bloated save file is a small price to pay for true manmade beauty

[real shale]

I hate trees, and I wish those big buds were destructible

[hoary light]

where do i write about bugs? I am experiencing so much i cant ignore it anymore xD

[undone citrus]

I should just hire pipe experts

Never do pipe work again

[real shale]

The pipe expert would be the person who makes it the simplest pipe network

[fading whale]

Titan Forest would just be "that other flat spot" in your book?

[real shale]

Ugh, I hate that I can't destroy those trees either

I can always cover them up with foundations though

[undone citrus]

simplest ❌
Functional ✅

[fading whale]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
Only official place to do it.

[real shale]

Oh no, simplest is functional for pipes

[undone citrus]

Not when I do it lmao

[real shale]

Like genuinely, the simpler the better, pipes hate overcomplicating

Just point A point B

Like I said, all it took was one pipe in the middle of 4 blenders for me to lose 30 fuel generators lol

[undone citrus]

I wish pipes just were smart, and it wasn't so physics based. Sure it's more real but it's more pain too lol

[hoary light]

thank you!

[real shale]

we'll just have to see what the new update changes

[undone citrus]

Yeah, hopefully it's meaningful to water cause I've heard water rumours and some info

[fading whale]

If you want community help, post here: https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533
Even quite technical stuff gets solved there.

[real shale]

i know we got fluid trucks, but i'd like a fluid train platform capacity buff

[undone citrus]

Another rumour I heard that I don't think will actually happen was Randomized Resource nodes

[real shale]

thats a seperate game mode

[undone citrus]

Oh?

[real shale]

at least from what ive heard theres rumours of that for a seperate game mode

[undone citrus]

That would be fun

Wouldn't change much, but would at least force you to play differently and adapt

[real shale]

genuinely, in some aspects randomised resource nodes might make a few things better

[undone citrus]

Can't just build the same factory for the 100th time lol

[real shale]

Bauxite being a big one i can think of

[undone citrus]

Randomized nodes forcing adaptation and new build is my main pro of that if it ever gets added

[real shale]

but i wonder what it means by randomised like is it swapping the existing nodes or placing them randomly on the map

[undone citrus]

Would be a really nice change

[fickle locust]

I just hope they don't randomize nodes in such a way that oil will be scattered all over

I like concentrations of resources

[undone citrus]

I'd assume if they every do randomize them certain resources would probably be randomized in a way that they still somewhat group

[real shale]

i mean you'll still have base map

[hoary light]

thank you, but its mostly gameplay issues like wrong hitboxes of rocks, texture glitches, holes in map, invincible enemies, bugged crafting stations interface etc.

[real shale]

holes in map?

[undone citrus]

My main struggle right now is getting a group to play with

Old group abandoned me soon as Christmas hit

[hoary light]

#1460612215119024230 message

on the picture you can see its like someone deleted a line from the map, it lets you fall underwater and you get stuck underground if cant find way back to that hole

idk if its same for everyone or just in my world something is wrong

[undone citrus]

Bro how did he fix the water

He wasn't lying. I was outdone by a guy who hasn't beaten the onboarding process or progressed past biofuel 😭

[clear mesa]

Skill issue 😞

We are all prone to them unfortunately

[undone citrus]

The most painful part is it looks like literally nothing changed

So clearly the design wasn't flawed

[clear mesa]

.

[jovial wing]

Trying to create a fuel power plant but I can't figure out how to get rid of the crude oil automatically.
Packaging into the Sink? How do I automate packaging in that case

[fickle locust]

You're perhaps translating a word wrong here, because this question doesn't make sense

You turn Crude Oil into Fuel and Polymer Resin using the normal recipe

[jovial wing]

I'm doing a group of refiners and fuel generators. Fuel gets fed into the generators but pipes fill up with crude oil from the oil extractor

Hmm I guess the pipes are overfilling

[fickle locust]

It sounds like you've got a functioning plant, there's just more oil coming from the extractor than refineries turning it into fuel

In which case you could just make more refineries, produce more fuel, make more generators to burn that fuel, now you have more power

[polar ermine]

what thing makes reinf. steelplate? I can do it in the crafting table but can I automate it?

[dense violet]

the recipe in the codex should tell you

[polar ermine]

codex?

ah didnt know that thing existed

[dense violet]

no sweat 🙂

[pastel dawn]

Hit 'O' on desktop or I prefer to hit 'N' and search

[fluid crow]

the tooltip for items should say where you can make it

[dense violet]

But also in general if it's 2 solid items being merged together it'll be the assembler

[pastel dawn]

Bruh it took us five years to get a use for SAM ore

[fluid crow]

by should I mean it does

[pastel dawn]

oh lol

I just want to be able to rename my swatches 😩

Random thought

[white dawn]

I think there's a mod to improve swatch functionality with that kind of thing, btw

I agree that'd be great to have ingame, though. I always just have a text file where I keep track of what I'm using 'em for

[mortal ginkgo]

Swatch count is extremely low to be fair...

[fluid crow]

being able to create groups of building types would be huge instead of just the limited default groups

[modest kernel]

How do I change the Miners from mk.3 to mk.2 in the factory planner?

[dire salmon]

my name is the pioneer
i made the factory
it was difficult
to make the ficsonium fuel rod

[dense tide]

Help i just fell asleep at 2AM watching someones 8 hour video of 100% satisfactory and my iPad died 😭

I woke up at like 9AM T_T

[fluid crow]

you're late for work

[real shale]

anyone else get like some weird afterimage looking effect when moving about near mass-dismantled objects?

[fluid crow]

better get to the factory!

[reef basin]

I mean ADA tells you about it like 2 minutes into the game 😄

[dire salmon]

we gotta save them kittens and puppies dawg

[real shale]

huh, turned DLSS off and its gone now, odd

[dire salmon]

i want a mod that lets you make billboards play bad apple
for no reason

[dense violet]

+it just tells you the amount of ore you need - up to you how you bring it from the node https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=n6zJRezVReIKAlIz3YJY

[fluid crow]

I think there is a mod like that

[dire salmon]

hooray

[lapis jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

Chat I just unlocked nobelisks

[modest kernel]

can you check #math-and-meta

[dire salmon]

even dante cant escape the embed fail..

[lapis jolt]

furious ticking noises

[mystic oriole]

would anyone consider Satisfactoy a gooning game?

[reef basin]

I may be too old to even know what that word means

[lapis jolt]

It’s this one officers

[mystic oriole]

if you do, what's your argument for it to be considered a gooning game?

[fluid crow]

factory bromance rp?

[dire salmon]

the fuck are you gooning to the portable miners???

[mystic oriole]

interesting that you brought up portable miners, so glad I'm not alone in this. lol

[dire salmon]

IM NOT GOONING TO LITTLE GUY HES JUST A CHILDDDD

[waxen harness]

I just joined to say

this game is like crack cocaine

Thank you devs you guys are the best

[dire salmon]

one time i was playing with my friend and we got to phase 4 and were like "remember when this was a game about making a cool factory?
"no."
"agreed."

[mystic oriole]

no, I just like messing with some people.

[waxen harness]

im on phase 2-3 rn , I js realized how op split conveyers are

[dire salmon]

id recommend getting smart splitters in the caterium tree in the mam it makes everything SO MUCH better

[waxen harness]

Man , I hope you have the best life ever and I pray no one ever dares to be mean to you again , and I hope you live the happiest life there is

I pray for ur success and happines

[whole ermine]

xd

[mystic oriole]

skip coal and oil

[dire salmon]

i just said smart splitters are good what

[waxen harness]

theres coal and oil?

[fluid crow]

ofc

[waxen harness]

ive just been deforesting this entire game

[whole ermine]

programmable splitters arent as good as smart splitters

[dense violet]

split conveyros?

[dire salmon]

do not
if you invest in fuel and get turbofuel plants you can maybe even avoid nuclear power

[waxen harness]

conveyors yes

[dire salmon]

thats what i did

[fluid crow]

don't worry about it needed done anyway

[mystic oriole]

nah, skip and go right to nuclear

[waxen harness]

I love this game

[dense violet]

how are they op?

[whole ermine]

you can easily skip nuclear if you invest enough ^^

[dire salmon]

i dont like doing nuclear since i dont like radiation
my turbofuel plants work just fine at the moment and when i remake my base i might upgrade to rocket fuel

[dense violet]

you can easily skip turbo fuel if you do nuclear. Don't need infinite fields of generators

[waxen harness]

The miner v1 is pretty fast and i just made it have a buncha conveyors with the split and made the otehr production stuff

[dire salmon]

i like doing them it makes me feel cool

[waxen harness]

and I get like triple the matierals

WAIT THERES NUCLEAR ?

[dense violet]

that's a fairly core mechanic of managing resources yes 🙂

[waxen harness]

This is like telling me meth is 3 steps away

[dense violet]

tier 7-8, so a ways

[waxen harness]

I love you guys no homo

[dense violet]

but you can get to tier 7-8 on coal power pretty easily

[mystic oriole]

and nooblisk that's also nuclear

[dire salmon]

yeah but if you dont like radiation then you dont have to do it

[mystic oriole]

big boom

[dire salmon]

i use fuel and my friend works on nuclear power plants on our server

[fickle locust]

I am so happy you're having fun and so excited for you to discover just how many more great things there are

[dense violet]

filters in a depot - radiation is a non issue

[waxen harness]

ive spent like 4-5 hours on it alr

game starterd lagging to get me to quit

[dire salmon]

yeah but that takes too long and i wanna do fun stuff in my free time

[dense violet]

they are very easy to make and less of a chore than fueling your jet pack in a depot

[mystic oriole]

this game is like a second job

[dire salmon]

not work on an "infinite googlenarp factory"

[dense violet]

and the base nuclear recipes are extremely simple

[waxen harness]

yo theres a big ass whale on my lawn how do I execute it

[dense violet]

just poke it

with your weapon

[mystic oriole]

poke it alot

[waxen harness]

hes js tanking it

[mystic oriole]

don't give up

[waxen harness]

he died

[fickle locust]

Generally if you hit it once it'll get off your lawn

[waxen harness]

he got stuck in my conveyor perfection

[dire salmon]

do people frown upon advanced game settings here

[white dawn]

I'm sure someone in here does, but it's your game -- play however you like. :)

[mystic oriole]

play it your way. even though you're having fun wrong.

[waxen harness]

Playing it in a way that makes the game fun is a good way

ive been having fun making a shitton of conveyor belts and making them make me as much materials as possible

and having to make another 30 generators because the fuse fails

[dire salmon]

i usually use flight and no build cost because a. i like building cool stuff and b. grindy games arent really my thing so i try to make it as non grindy while still keeping the core aspect of the game

[waxen harness]

I love teh ada voice

[dire salmon]

and c. i am not spending all my copper sheets on PIPES

[waxen harness]

to the guy who put a spagetti emoji yes it is a spagetti fest w these wires 💔

[dense violet]

generally that means they are stuck on an object.
next time delete the object, poke them, they'll run

[waxen harness]

to much work and would make me less material id rather kill them

[dense violet]

really don't recommend doing it if you haven't gone through the tiers at least once.

[dire salmon]

my friend tells me off for making speghetti and i am kind of getting better

[dense violet]

the tiers are a really good tutorial that gives you things to learn step by step

[warped falcon]

is the pioneer role level based?

[dire salmon]

i only use no build cost and flight most of the time
on some of my files i have no fuel on but thats basically it

[dense violet]

I mean the no build stuff skips most of the actual building to learn and get parts to build

but you do you. Depends if you care about getting good at mechanics