satisfactory

[warm finch]

sprint+crouchslide+jump+jetpack=SPEEEEED

[feral jay]

Do it on a conveyor for even more speed

[indigo kiln]

Doing it on Mark 3 conveyor makes my game laggy lmao

[warm finch]

skill issue

[indigo kiln]

Something's wrong with my main rig and so I'm on my laptop

I'm at the oil

[warm finch]

did you remember to bring the mats you needed? and poweR?

[indigo kiln]

I have the power of dimensional depots and a full inventory

[paper star]

interesting, i was under the impression you needed hundreds of those spheres for depots to be useful

[leaden matrix]

You, were using DD before oil???

[indigo kiln]

Nah You just have to be picky

Yeah

[swift turret]

get more Ram

[leaden matrix]

.......
Something tells me I did this in the wrong order😭
I didnt use DD till phase 4

[swift turret]

about DD5 128gb wil do

then send it to me

[indigo kiln]

If only I could figure out what was wrong with my main rig I'd have 64 gigs of DDR5 6,000

FUCK I FORGOT MOTORS

[paper star]

i full sent DD the moment i got steel

[indigo kiln]

I had a dimensional depot before steel lol

[leaden matrix]

Real😭

[swift turret]

make steel pipe rotors

[indigo kiln]

I have the stuff to hand make motors This is going to be a while

[paper star]

you must've found at least 130 steel pipes at drive spots then?

[indigo kiln]

I paid for them with tickets

I was tired of running back and forth to grab more reinforced plates All right

[swift turret]

dimension depot

[mortal stone]

Is it worth it to 2x power shard MK2 miners on normal coal node?

[feral jay]

Oh wow, no more hard drive rewards available

[swift turret]

depends on what you're doing

[mortal stone]

I was thinking about stretching out the use of 2x normal coal nodes to generate excess electricity

[swift turret]

but if you need that much coal and cant get any other nodes then go for it

[mortal stone]

I've just reached that point where I've just finished all T3 and T4 goals and need to do the first rebuild

[indigo kiln]

I have oil

[feral jay]

I have ten fingers and ten toes

[mortal stone]

Stocked up like 2 containers worth of steel beams for full Mk3 belt revamp

[indigo kiln]

I've got 13 fingers and 10 toes

[mortal stone]

Spent 3 hours dithering and finding way too many hard drives ytd instead of rebuilding XD

At least I've finished all available alt recipes

[feral jay]

Heh me too, I need to actually unlock some recipes if I want to scan more drives right now

[indigo kiln]

I have scanned a total of 3 hard drives lmao

[mortal stone]

They do help a ton

SCREWS GO TO HELL!

[indigo kiln]

I know Cast crews are fucking godsend

[feral jay]

I'm building out this battery plant with the battery alt recipe

[indigo kiln]

Cast screws happen to be the first one I got lmao

[feral jay]

Classic battery I think it is

[indigo kiln]

What are batteries used for

[feral jay]

Powering drones mostly

[indigo kiln]

Are drones really that useful

[mortal stone]

I was thinking of putting out a farm of power storages for my network

[feral jay]

If you need to ship a small amount a long way, then yes

[indigo kiln]

Nah trains

[mortal stone]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-shocked-surprised-woah-what-gif-2982173991495381717

[swift turret]

yes you dont need preexisting infrastructure and they can go anywhere

[feral jay]

Drones are great for moving late stage stuff around the map, trains take up sooo much room

[indigo kiln]

Yes however trains

[swift turret]

trains require setup, prep, and much time needed.

[indigo kiln]

Yes but they are trains

[feral jay]

There's also a supercomputer alt that uses batteries

[swift turret]

Drones only need to hooked up to the output and a place to offload their stuff

[feral jay]

Trains are cool because only a train can say "Bitch, I'm a train!"

[indigo kiln]

Well and a transformer

But it has to be a train transformer so I guess you're still right

[feral jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitchImATrain/ offtopic but hilarious subreddit btw

[jade portal]

can someone check my work to see if my brain is working at 1 am

[indigo kiln]

You have distracted me the next 16 hours

[swift turret]

with?

[jade portal]

belt logic

[swift turret]

if stuff > belt cap
dont do that
Else
do that

hope that helps!

[jade portal]

well its more complicated then that

[feral jay]

It never is, but it always is

[jade portal]

it would be so easier to explain in vc

[swift turret]

if (stuff > belt cap) {
dont do that
}
else{
do that
}

There I made it more complicated

[jade portal]

lmao

[leaden matrix]

If Stuff > Belt cap
beltS
Else
Belt

[jade portal]

im trying to turn 4 outputs into 2 belts of items but one belt has to have double the amount of items on it

[indigo kiln]

..........................................

I came all this way

[feral jay]

Improper indentation. You're fired.

[indigo kiln]

After forgetting to research oil power

[swift turret]

leave me alone I did javascript for a week

[leaden matrix]

...

[swift turret]

Im mostly in python

[indigo kiln]

It's 2:00 a.m. I'm just going to go to fucking bed

[leaden matrix]

Its not that long of a walk
Ive done it before

[swift turret]

load balance

[leaden matrix]

Invest in a zipline tho

[swift turret]

look up tutorials

[jade portal]

i should mention that im in final stage of phase 1

[indigo kiln]

It didn't take that long I just got shit to do tomorrow well I guess today

[leaden matrix]

Thats real I also hopped off a little ago

[indigo kiln]

Where's the save button in satisfactory modeler

[leaden matrix]

Somersloops or have have 6 outputs so you can have 4 [double] on one and 2 on the other

[swift turret]

sloops wouldnt work with load balancing

its all in the math

[indigo kiln]

Or meth

[jade portal]

what about this #1464144012129603625

[swift turret]

meth helps math

[indigo kiln]

Depending on how long you've been playing

[swift turret]

I stopped keeping track a month ago

Or maybe it was a day

or an hour

[indigo kiln]

Oh Jesus Christ I've already clocked in 8 hours on satisfactory modeler

[fickle locust]

Oh hey it's 2 AM

[high pivot]

Alright so im 100% late to the party. I know. But god dang it feels good to get your very first ever coal power plant set up and power your base. No more picking up leaves and sticks to make biomass.

[leaden matrix]

Someone's near the east coast

[fickle locust]

Guilty as charged, excited for the giant snowstorm coming this weekend
Time for cozy Satisfactory

[high pivot]

and i got it set up so good too XD 100% self sustaining foreverrr

[leaden matrix]

My old coal plant is trash and barely works

Made a new one to burn petroleum coal though, works like a charm [roughly 20 coal power gens] Took way more than I thought😭

[high pivot]

took me 5 hours of trying to do it by myself, then i saw a YT short. Some old guy made it so simple it took me about 20 minutes to set it up after that.

ffs that was frustrating, but so nice being done

[leaden matrix]

Yooooo I love doc

I try not to listen to other people's tips because I like doing stuff on my own, fun learning experience! ^^

[high pivot]

yea it was him xD

I do too, but i really needed the help. not having power and being absolutely tired of biomass farming drew me to insanity

[leaden matrix]

Docs super goated, he hasn't been uploading on tiktok lately though :/

I get you there, but the struggle for power [while eternal] is apart of the fun :>

-# I hated setting up oil power for the first time😭

[high pivot]

wait

coal isnt the end power source?

[stuck dagger]

oh hohoh

It's only one step up from biomass

What made you think there wouldn't be more

[high pivot]

nah that was a joke xD lol

i knew there was at least 1 more

but i think its proly around 2 or 3 more at most

[swift turret]

at least a lot more*

[supple gulch]

Man lfg is dead

[swift turret]

satisfactory is famously a solo game

[supple gulch]

That's sadge

[high pivot]

what do i feed the awesome sink?

[swift turret]

whatever you want

Most of the time you feed it excess material you cant store

[high pivot]

so like excess cables n stuff?

[sick falcon]

sloops, hard drives, mercer spheres, and power slugs

[swift turret]

yknow i dont think i've ever tried that

maybe I did and it just didnt accept it because its organic material

[stuck dagger]

Don't forget nut statues and coffee mugs

[dusky hedge]

theres a sink value chart on the wiki

[leaden matrix]

Evil >->

[leaden matrix]

The only thing keeping me from playing with others is lack of crossplay and lack of dedicated servers on console

And a lack of plans to add either [for now atleast]😭

[supple gulch]

I'm just looking for a console player atp to help me finish my dream of a megafactory

[high pivot]

research stuff seems so overwhelming.. how am i supposed to find all this stuff just roaming around? o.0

[supple gulch]

Focus on quartz for bladerunners

[cursive crane]

!wikisearch awesome+sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+sink

[dusky hedge]

the stuff you can get early makes it easier to find hard drives which have items near them
also 10 doggos in a penn will supply some good stuff

[cursive crane]

Theres a scan tool

Equipment shop

[supple gulch]

Good joke

[high pivot]

object scanner? i never crafted it. making one now

[cursive crane]

He was literally complaining about it being dead like a couple messages above that lol

[queen slate]

Mb ;P

Sry

[cursive crane]

Good practice when it comes to games like this, if you are struggling to do something that seems like it should be easier, theres probably equipment or buildables you arent utilizing

[high pivot]

got no signal for object scanner xD

[cursive crane]

Its not very far, and it can only scan for one thing at a time

[high pivot]

i have no scannable options tho

assuming i need to do more researches first?

[cursive crane]

The ||Radar Tower|| can also be useful in combination, but you can do quite a lot with just the object scanner
And you probably need to advance a bit yea 🙂

[sick falcon]

it wont accept them

[swift turret]

Yeah thats what I thought

Only material. It won't accept organic matter

[cursive crane]

Sinks are good when combined with overflow smart splitters on large production lines. Keeps the machines running while also racking up coupons.
But also, sloop consrructors to turn slugs into many power shards and protein into massive sink points

[swift turret]

They're great for getting rid of tickets

I just sink all of mine so useless

[cursive crane]

I hope you are trolling or have finished the game

[coral marsh]

Ran my power grid so high I blew a fuse lol, so I put down some geo gens and a number of power storage units. Gives me enough power to crank up my fuel gens and solve everything

[swift turret]

Nah but I have sunk more than 1 to see if I could

Waste about 200

[cursive crane]

The first few hundred coupons are so important

[swift turret]

like maybe ada would stop me after 1 or there would be a cap

she infact did not

[coral marsh]

Geo gens are actually expensive when you think about it, 25 high speed connectors each.

[cursive crane]

Not after you automate em lol

[coral marsh]

My power grid blew a fuse

[swift turret]

then dont do that

[coral marsh]

I cant

I hand crafted 75 anyway so I could have 3 geo gens

The extra 40Gw ill get from my fuel gens will help immensely

[high pivot]

im finna buckle down on some transportation from each of my little bases

running 500m between places sucks

[coral marsh]

Get the "Mk+ blade runners" mod

Add higher tier blade runners upto mk5

[high pivot]

kk lemme just use my console commands to get it >.>

[swift turret]

for what? A hyper tube cannon for a jump?

[high pivot]

i aint there yet lol

[coral marsh]

I wasnt aware you're on console bro, come on

[coral marsh]

You cant use blade runners in the hyper tubes

[high pivot]

dont troll me im new

[coral marsh]

How was i to know, i havent been actuve in this server for a couple days

[high pivot]

ah fk im far from hypertubes anyways

not even at steel yet

😭

[swift turret]

dont forget to watch out for the spitter level 8

they're terible

[high pivot]

the what

[swift turret]

anyways

[high pivot]

dont anyways me

[coral marsh]

Spitter, an enemy

[swift turret]

ANYWAYS

[high pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-dead-to-me-dean-winchester-supernatural-gif-10339376789365934424

aww no embed

[swift turret]

#screenshots message @lone bough You have pumps for rocket fuel?

[lone bough]

You mean fluid pumps?

[swift turret]

yes

Rocket fuel is a gas

[lone bough]

So you don't need pumps to rais it up that to a second floor, like in my build?

[swift turret]

no

Gas will go where you need it to

[lone bough]

Well... learned something new

[swift turret]

yeah was fun to learn when messing with my rocket fuel factory

[lone bough]

Nice, aluminum is the bane of my existence. I have spent close to 30 hours getting everything running smoothly and it still has it's issues. Hopefully with my new save and proper planning, and not having someone playing with you who just lays things everywhere will help.

I am building a logistics floor in my Mega Factory. I have always seen others do it and it seems like a great idea.

[native tapir]

Still looks good

[lone bough]

Thank you, that was my first go at planning in Satisfactory Modeler, and then building it all out with a design in mind.

For my new save, I will probably recreate it and not even touch nuclear until I can get rid of Nuclear Waste.

[queen slate]

Are you trying to feed the water byproduct back into the alumina refineries?

[lone bough]

Hang on, let me hop onto that save. It has been a minute and I can go look at it.

[queen slate]

It just can be difficult to do that as sloshing etc if you can get it working that’s great but I’ve heard it’s better to use the water in something like wet concrete yk

[lone bough]

I posted the screenshots here #screenshots message

So the numbers work themselves out to where the water going back in shouldn't back up, but it still does. I also have all of the excess alumnia solution and water if it gets backed up to be packaged up and sent to the Sink.

[humble osprey]

whats the point of cars

i think they should make it so they dont need coal to work

[swift turret]

they use any fuel

[queen slate]

I don’t rly seem to see a problem rn but I gtg sry ur factory looks great tho gj

[humble osprey]

i never use it cuz most of the time im not in a situation where i got coal

[humble osprey]

still very limiting

[lone bough]

no worries. o7

[swift turret]

no cars can have quick infrastructure and be used like trains

by steel you can move nodes from the dessert to the titans forest in minutes

[humble osprey]

ive never gone to the desert, maybe thats why

[swift turret]

thats just an example

[humble osprey]

i can see them being very helpful in the desert

[swift turret]

from the grassy fields to the shoreline

from the rockey desert to crater lakes

all good

[stuck dagger]

I use tractors for middle-distance and some amount of verticality

[high pivot]

i use muh legs 🙁

[stuck dagger]

which would be around 300-500m, too short for a train but making a belt that long is too ugly

[lone bough]

I just get my friends to carry the items for food

[high pivot]

i saw a video of a guy who basically did an "underground" hyper tube. Used foundations to cover it

[stuck dagger]

oh I was talking about that guy's statement that tractors were pointless, I don't use them to transport myself

[high pivot]

ah

you use tractors to transport material?? why not just use conveyor belts? XD

[stuck dagger]

well I just listed my rationale

[high pivot]

i mean.. the time spent hauling that stuff though

id rather be building

[stuck dagger]

I do not like belts going long distances

[lone bough]

I use belts and stack them. Sometimes I will use drones or trains. I was not a fan of trucks and cars simply because of the manual node placement and it was a bit to tedius.

#screenshots message

[swift turret]

because trying to move material from 1 side of the area to another is impossible with belts

[high pivot]

ya im not that far yet myself xD

[lone bough]

I am on my second save and trying to do things more effeciently and better. Learnig my from mistakes from the first 200 hours of playing this game. Never completed phase 5, but I plan on doing so in this one.

[high pivot]

fffffffff this game is insane xD

you'd think the map is too big until you start needing a factory for only screws............................

[frosty mirage]

How do u deal with holes with resource nodes in it? Just level the ground with foundation and use a floor hole?

[green fiber]

Holes with resources in them?

[cursive crane]

Whatever works best for you honestly. Quick and dirty spaghett belt to get it out never fails, floor hole can make it look nicer. I have a sam node that produces all the sam into industrial storages in the hole and deposits them into depots, just pull a few hundred every time I need it, or go down and empty the industrials if I need a lot.

[high pivot]

Just found my first ever crash site. Anything special I should be aware of?

[dusky hedge]

1 is never enough

the loot can help a lot with early mam progress, scout the area

[high pivot]

how i get the harddrive o.0

[ruby jay]

Interract with the largest part of the spacecraft

It might need power or some parts to open

[frosty mirage]

Yea, like bigger holes in the map with nodes in them which make factories harder to expand

[dusky hedge]

theres a little box left of the lever, hover over it to see what it needs

[frosty mirage]

Im trying to reduce noodles honestly

Will probably go for floor holes

[sterile blade]

I think the most common approach is to make use truck stations with Factory Carts, automating them over a tight spiral built out of foundations or walkways
Some normies also use conveyor lifts though...
||Joke disclaimer||

[high pivot]

should i choose steel screws, copper rotor, or rescan hard drive? im new so i dnt really know which to choose..

[native frost]

Just keep scanning

[native frost]

Dont pick one yet

[sterile blade]

Whichever tickles you more~

[high pivot]

so rescan?

[native frost]

Nah theres a limited amount of alt recipes it dont give u the same one twice

[high pivot]

then.. pick one?

[native frost]

Im bad at explaining

[high pivot]

i mean there only two options

picka reward or rescan xD

[native frost]

Do they solve a problem

If not rescan

[high pivot]

only if it helps you at explaining i guess

xD

[lapis shadow]

They' re saying to just leave those 2 choices in your library (by just not selectingh one). This reduces the total pool of alt recipes that you can get from subsequent hard drives, thus increasing your chances of a more desirable alt recipe

Steel screws not a bad recipe though

[charred basin]

guys should I buy this game? I just got a pc don’t know what to buy at all

[lapis shadow]

This game isn't for everyone but it's a very well made game for those who enjoy this type of game. Try it out! You get 2 hours of gameplay before you can refund if you don't like

on steam that is

[sterile blade]

Nah, it's a bad game. I wish I could refund the thousands of hours I wasted into it, literal dogshit
||Sarcasm disclaimer||

[leaden turret]

walking into a satisfactory server and asking if you should buy satisfactory is like walking into texas and asking if you should eat steak

[charred basin]

Alrighttt I’ll buy it ig thanks ill try it

Any more game recommendations?

[high pivot]

🤣 You know how many games that gamers will recommend to you without knowing what you like?

Cause I do...

||all of them||

[charred basin]

I don’t even know what I like I swear😭

[high pivot]

start with buying and trying satisfactory to see if u like it

[charred basin]

Alright

[high pivot]

easy fix. Dont worrya bout other suggestions til u try it 🙂

[cursive crane]

Do yourself a favor and learn to use your stores filters.
Just type "factory games" into any store and youll get half a dozen games that you should try, and a dozen more that you could try

[charred basin]

Alrightttt thank all of u

[cursive crane]

• Star rupture is a neat new take on the factory genre, not the same as satisfactory though, in early access
• Shapez [2] if you love math and shapes
• Factorio if you like never spending another second outside
• Tower factory is a cool classic tower defense take on the genre
• Foundry is a good satisfactory meets factorio game

[opaque wren]

I personally check the reviews. Most games with overwhelming positive and 10k+ reviews will be good.

Dyson sphere resembles Satisfactory as well.

And it's a popular choice.

[charred basin]

Tho is it hard I rage so fast

[charred basin]

I wanna check fsctorio might do ngl

[cursive crane]

Satisfactory? Theres plenty of settings to tune it to what you want, but for the most part its a relaxing take on the genre, [no spoilers]
But the progression/story is basically one big tutorial to get you everything unlocked and show full creative potential.
Late game can be a bit of a drag depending on what kind of person you are

[opaque wren]

Now I have to take the hardest decision in the game.

[cursive crane]

If you are concerned about difficulty, would do satisfactory before factorio, factorio gets crazy complex the further you go.
Personally If I were to tell you to progress through the genre any way, would go
Satisfactory>Foundry>Factorio

[charred basin]

I want really really like very addictive games tho I rage very quickly if I don’t know what to do so shall I go with satisfactory?

[cursive crane]

The genre overall requires you to figure things out for yourself, so.. my answer yes, but about tier 3/4 is where most people burn out/find out if they like the game [when you unlock pipes and refineries for reference]

[opaque wren]

I agree, Satisfactory is probably the "entry" level as far as complexity goes.

It's more of an architecture game than engineering / complexity.

[charred basin]

Sooo the answer is yes? Do I get it?

[opaque wren]

We cannot decide for you. It's your money / time. We can only provide information for you to take the option that is best for you.

[cursive crane]

You can pretty much "finish" satisfactory bruteforcing your way through it if you want, but the rest of them, you really need to set yourself up lol
So yes, start with sf

[leaden turret]

-# architectural spaghetti

[clear mesa]

No

[opaque wren]

Italians will thrive at this game for sure 🙂

[clear mesa]

If u rage quick it's over for u ngl

[cursive crane]

I cant wait for marv to drop the the pw to his solo world so I can get in and spagett his pipes

[opaque wren]

Rage -> Just clip everything and rage goes away.

[leaden turret]

what pipes

[opaque wren]

OCD might kick in but you can't have them all

[clear mesa]

Ye but doesn't sound like he'd enjoy the large scale fuel factories or figuring out nuclear pasta...

[leaden turret]

I think the only time I rage quit Satisfactory was when I was trying to place a statue on the desk in the hub and it got stuck in the wrong place

[opaque wren]

You don't need large scale oil factories. You can go nuclear 😛

I am pretty sure you can finish the game with coal as well.

[cursive crane]

Thats not ragequitting though thats burnout.
In terms of ragequittability the only thing I would be concerned about is ||certain things mainly located in the swamp||

[clear mesa]

Nuclear has its own set of annoyances :p

All I'm saying is that yes this game is addictive, I just think some people get into the trap of watching people build stuff and thinking they'll like it because of that

When in reality they just enjoy watching it

[clear mesa]

What's wrong with the cats 😞

[cursive crane]

I call it the minecraft effect. I start each world planning to create massive mansions and castles and cities, I end each world perfectly fine with my 10 by 10 by 10 hole dug into the side of a mountain and my chest room full of stuff ill never use

[clear mesa]

Yup that's a good analogy

Understandably not many people like to get off their 9-5 to open up their nuclear pasta spreadsheet

Or figure out for the 4th time why their pipes are still not working

But hey...that's why WE love it

[cursive crane]

People overcomplicate it, you dont even need nuclear to "finish" the game

[fluid crow]

I like working on my rail lines at night in hostile territory!

[cursive crane]

A solid fuel factory works wonders, and can really be distilled down to the basics if you dont overthink it

[flint grail]

Need opinions before I fully commit to this: #screenshots message

[reef basin]

why are you limiting yourself like that? build the factory first, encase it in architecture later

[flint grail]

Mainly for the challenge. Plus, that space gotta be used for something

[reef basin]

space is practically infinite 🤷

[obsidian zodiac]

im scared

[high pivot]

any way to make tubes faster? like.. a booster? lol

[fluid crow]

hyper tube cannon ofc

[high pivot]

pls explain

[lapis shadow]

I've just started getting into adding more aesthetics to my builds and I'm not sure how this one turned out. Anyone got any tips how to make this look a bit better? #screenshots message

[fluid crow]

going through multiple entrances in a line or loop makes you go faster

beyond terminal velocity

[dusky hedge]

theres a designs and architecture channel

i assume they all use mods

[reef basin]

better to ask in #design-and-architecture (and include image there)

#screenshots just isn't for questions

[midnight yacht]

first time player and i think im at the midgame choke and im just running around thinking about rebuilding everthing but im took broke too

[reef basin]

well, the advice I'd give is "do not rebuild" 🙂

just build new stuff and keep old

[midnight yacht]

then leach the the old stuff to the the new location

[reef basin]

no, keep it in place. Once a thing is built, don't touch it

[nocturne cairn]

There are more than enough ore veins to be able to build new factories without tearing down old ones

[midnight yacht]

it more about the location

[reef basin]

what about it?

the game kinda wants you to have factories all over the map

instead of having a single location where all factories are

[ashen belfry]

That's not me.
I like building stuff, I don't like making it aesthetically pleasing, more like problem solving stuff.
I really like city builders and simulations. Where trying to solve a problem leads to more problems. " I need more tools, that means more iron, but for that I need another building and villagers and more ore. More ore means even more needed villager. Guess I have to import some iron for now to get more villager, but those need houses, food and clothing."

[high pivot]

any recommendations for first few purchases with tickets?

[ashen belfry]

Ladders are huge

[high pivot]

:S Ladders...

i dont see myself using ladders though :S

[ashen belfry]

Easier traversing the world, getting to higher grounds

[clear mesa]

At its core that what it's about :)

[leaden turret]

in no particular order:

• conveyor mounts
• conveyor holes / walls
• double wall outlet
• pipe holes
• signs
• catwalks

[high pivot]

my vote would definitely be catwalks are S tier xD

cause oh my god if i get trapped again

[fluid crow]

factory cart ofc

[high pivot]

what if it blows up or gets stuck tho

[leaden turret]

🏃‍♀️‍➡️🔭
🪜
🪜
🪜
🪜
🪜 ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

[fluid crow]

that's the best part, it just reappears

[high pivot]

oh nice

[unkempt blade]

They're indestructible. They can even function as a boat for short periods of time

[fluid crow]

either factory cart or asphalt it's a tough call

[unkempt blade]

I'd throw the boombox and quarter pipe foundations in there too but those are less for organization and more for fun 😄

[fluid crow]

boombox is a serious tool

[unkempt blade]

yeah it makes the bee monsters so much more pleasant to deal with

[fluid crow]

and the damn beans

up until you just start fumigating

[silent meteor]

This week I decided to go down the rabbit hole and started a new save. Last time I played was shortly after 1.0s release. But I decided to add an extra layer of headache and installed the Satisfactory Plus overhaul mod as well. Been a few years since I played the mod and was curious to see what had changed. I'd forgotten just how frustratingly fun this game can be. Lol.

[mortal ginkgo]

Adding hell to another hell.

[fluid crow]

I'm never going to make it to 100 days without an incident 😭

[finite mirage]

is there a satifactory periodic table

[reef basin]

what would that be?

[rustic urchin]

Uo

[wicked yew]

Heya peeps, need some people more intelligent then i am xD, for fuel production with a byproduct of polymer resin, is it more efficient to use the fuel/resin recipe or the heavy oil residue recipe then refine the residue into fuel?

[reef basin]

what do you mean by "efficient"?

[wicked yew]

Which way round do i get more fuel in essence? Want the resin byproduct for other projects so some of the other recipes don't help

[ember hatch]

more fuel per crude oil?

[wicked yew]

Yeah

[oak nymph]

Heavy oil residue is good I use it a lot

[wicked yew]

Brill, had a hunch that might be better but wanted to check with the better pioneers here that knew better 😀

[reef basin]

most fuel per oil is alt HOR -> diluted (packaged) fuel

but you could do the math yourself to figure that out 🙂

[oak nymph]

I just give my opinion idk if it's the best tho don't trust me lol

[silent pagoda]

I know different fuels are better for the jet pack, do they make a difference for vehicles aside from duration?

[reef basin]

no

[silent pagoda]

ty

[reef basin]

(only for drones)

[silent meteor]

Heavy oil, then diluted fuel alt recipe that mixes HOR with water.

[silent pagoda]

is it still worth using turbofuel for the extra duration in ur opinion

[reef basin]

for what?

[silent pagoda]

automated trucks

[reef basin]

eh, really depends. Base fuel is simple enough and would work just as fine, you can also do batteries or something like that. Whatever works for your and for given case really.

[silent pagoda]

aight i’ll try it, cheers

[strong fiber]

You can use batteries for trucks?

[unkempt blade]

Turbofuel is a pretty big boost for distance per unit over basic fuel but like greeny said you can basically use whatever is convenient and it'll run

[unkempt blade]

you can use all sorts of stuff including batteries 😄

[reef basin]

yes, you can use them for all vehicles

[strong fiber]

Dang

I usually just use turbofuel for everything

[unkempt blade]

I do like how they handled fuel for vehicles. It's nice to have options to choose from

[strong fiber]

Unless im using lots and lots of drones for one project

I would make batteries

[mortal ginkgo]

yes but why cant we fuel vehicles via limestones again?

[unkempt blade]

Drones also have an interesting wrinkle in that fuel choice actually makes them go faster with some than others. Other vehicles just get a run time/unit bonus not a throughput bonus

[reef basin]

personally I wouldn't make TF even if they paid me

[mortal ginkgo]

isn't rocket fuel mid to late game and ionized fuel better ultra late game where you can use the alt recipe of it?

[reef basin]

"better" how? and for what? 😄

[unkempt blade]

yeah you can do TF before you get blenders

[ivory condor]

Ionized fuel is hot garbage for power

[silent pagoda]

ionized fuel is just a resource sink

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, though I think TF is a trap and uses too much compact coal.

[mortal ginkgo]

But for drones its gud no?

[hexed belfry]

is your hair growing back

[silent pagoda]

u can use it for personal jetpack if u really want but beyond that…

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to disagree since I am considering the "Dark-Ion Fuel" version which doesn't seem hard to make.

[ivory condor]

The power shards make ionized fuel to expensive to be worth it

[mortal ginkgo]

Dark-Ion Fuel recipe doesn't ask for it

[unkempt blade]

growing back? I use so many carts it's already gently grazing my butt

[reef basin]

I mean I would probably make some RF/IF/TF whatever for jetpack purposes, but for power I'm skipping all of them

[hexed belfry]

it reaches down there and tickles it? im bloody jelous

[unkempt blade]

I think TF makes a lot of sense as a transitional fuel. Do TF in P3 and upgrade the setup to rocket fuel when you get blenders in P4

[zenith pecan]

The power shards bit since they'd be getting synthesised isn't that much of an issue, the problem is if there is an imbalance or any form of disruption, the shards cannot be overflowed into a sink, which can jam things (doesn't matter if you don't care about yellow lights) , I personally prefer my machines run smoothly.

[reef basin]

or not do that and do fuel -> nuclear 🙂

[ivory condor]

Very expensive coal wise though

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but if you really focus on making TF you end up having way too much TF to make RF which turns you into someone who puts 3485739485734987534 fuel gens on a 1m ficsit foundation in the sky with desire of posting screenshot every 2 hours in reddit or screenshot section of this discord.

That is a fate WAY worse than THOUSANDS of deaths I tell you!

[mortal ginkgo]

Is it? It gives compact coal back? Well I still think it MIGHT be worth it.

[unkempt blade]

I'm pro-nuclear but a lot of the community seems to want to stick to rocket fuel for simplicity. It's good to have options or just use both 😆

[ivory condor]

Like just to make 2000/min ionized fuel takes 20k coal, which is nuts

[unkempt blade]

I feel judged 😢

[ivory condor]

Still to expensive

[unkempt blade]

obligatory rocket fuel screenshots #screenshots message

[ivory condor]

20k coal to make 2000/min fuel is definitely not worth it

Thats way worse than RF

But of course 2000/min RF, takes exactly 0 coal

Its crazy how expensive IF is, even if you try with the alt

[mortal ginkgo]

I am checking at factoriolab that 1000/min Packaged Ionized Fuel (which is ridiculous demand) asks for 2304 compact coal

Am I being an ultra silly goober here? What am I missing?

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=cHVed8dFDDw9PdhxklVQ 10k coal to make 1000/min IF according to this

would need to see where you could be coming up with less insane coal usage

[mortal ginkgo]

http://factoriolab.github.io/staging/sfy/list?z=eJwFwc1OwlAUhdG3YfANyK0pQQYdcPa5VkRFUfybgVTQqKQYtDo4z-5au0pfFCml3uuqqby3b7oqUzNhGufMuGbJczRseIt32jjQ8ReJkiEj-mFjzLET7BQ7C5tiF9gMm2O3YXfYA7YMW2FN2Au2xT7Ddlgbtsc6rEBj5KhGl-gKzUM3aBG6R0-hJVqjTWiLPlAbOqAflEIFKkMDNAwdoz4uPIfX-Dr8F0.4EV6GD.AR3id75Jo8IS.Ij5HXve-qKP4BvuRKRg__&v=11#step_9_item_tab

Can you check whats wrong here?

[lone bough]

600 oil can produce a total of 33,000 MW of power.

#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

could be using SAM ore, you could get the coal consumption down a decent bit there if you wanted to

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=PgI5CJymA0LkCYYBfIa5 yes but 2.5k SAM isnt great either

[mortal ginkgo]

he be using tons of coal for TF

I could sloop SAM

[unkempt blade]

I mean 2k ionized fuel is a pretty crazy build. It's not going to be free 😆

[ivory condor]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=H2zlUSycbA2zpWVijlyB 8400/min RF still looks far better

only 3.2k coal, doesnt even require SAM either

[mortal ginkgo]

I am more into the speed of Ionized Fuel

Also I wouldnt use it everywhere, and even if I do I couldn't reach 2000/min usage I think.

At that point Satisfactory 2 - Revenge of the Spheres would be released.

[ivory condor]

lol

[unkempt blade]

I could see sinking a decent amount into drones if someone had a drone-heavy save but even then unless you need the extra speed to improve drone throughput...

[zealous urchin]

Satisfactory 2 the Cart Strikes Back

[unkempt blade]

Personally I do the global train network already as a project so that much ionized would just be a waste for me

[zealous urchin]

Satisfactory but its only impure limestone nodes

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah such person would need therapy.

[mortal ginkgo]

H E A V E N

[zealous urchin]

Satisfactory but u are forced to listen to "you can do what you want propaganda" for 10 hrs straight

to add something to the discussion id only make ionized fuel for carts tbf

[mortal ginkgo]

You added so much that discord had a lagspike to process such information.

[zealous urchin]

ugandan server blew up

fr

[coral marsh]

Found out theres a mod that makes every ore node in the game, pure

One for normal as well

[mortal ginkgo]

its a disgusting mod indeed, why do we even need to have that? should we report it to USA goverment?

[coral marsh]

Lmao,

[mortal ginkgo]

#nobias #purenodesoverrated

[coral marsh]

Pure limestone nodes everywhere

[mortal ginkgo]

D I S G U S T I N G

[ornate saffron]

THAT IS THE KIND OF FILTH THIS CHRISTIAN LOVING GROUP DOESNT WANT

[coral marsh]

Y'know, I wouldn't mind an "ultra* uranium node, and an addition of mk3 miners that have dual outputs, 2400 per minute max

[mortal ginkgo]

IF THIS IS A TEST OF GOD, ANOTHER CRUSADE SHOULD BE ON ITS WAY TO HOLY IMPURE LANDS

[coral marsh]

Christian, loving? Pathetic

Im all for jokes, but theres a point where it gets too much

[mortal ginkgo]

[ornate saffron]

Honestly as long as it doesnt effect my experience all the power to them

[queen slate]

Impure limestone nodes are the best node #not biased

[mortal ginkgo]

ıf you really thought that, you would set your entire account fitting for servitude such node, change your windows desktop, your lifestyle, and such

You are an imposter. I can sense it.

I bet you tap those DISGUSTUNG pure nodes whenever you see them. 😡

[queen slate]

🥺 I am not a founder I’m a follower

[queen slate]

Impure nodes give me what I need but there aren’t enough ,stupid normal and pure nodes plague my world leaving me perplexed as of what to do

[lapis shadow]

Is there any hotkey to trash items in your inventory? I'm aware that holding ctrl and dragging to the trash will mass delete all identical items but that doesn't help me when trying to delete lots of unique items

[spare cradle]

I didn't even know the first thing

-# As I don't delete things...

[fluid crow]

I delete most stuff by putting it a container that goes to the sink

[dusky hedge]

theres no need to delete anything, this is a logistics gamem trash is a logistics problem

[mortal ginkgo]

what he is asking is about reconstructing a base.

[mortal ginkgo]

let everything pile up in few crates of "no inventory space" as they can be removed by one single click

[lapis shadow]

Whenever I'm building/deleting lots on a project, then I end up with tiny amounts of a bunch of different items from my depots. And since my depots are always filling, they're too full to put back once project is finished. Hence my question

[frail plinth]

how can i put the gas filter on the gas mask

[fluid crow]

I get done and empty my pockets into the shredder

[mortal ginkgo]

if it is in your inventory, it is automatically used

[dusky hedge]

automatic when in inventory

[lapis shadow]

Automatically happens when you are subjected to gas

[dusky hedge]

jinx

[dusky hedge]

i ususally stack a bunch of personal containers on the ground and fill them up, can easily organise them later
dont know of any other method to delete but likely there is a mod for it

[lapis shadow]

Eh it's not that big of a deal. If there was a hotkey then nice, if not, I don't really care that much to find another solution haha

[rugged jasper]

Is battery an important part to make a lot of in my main factory, for tier 8-9. ?

[dusky hedge]

with containers its 2 clicks to empty inventory so its pretty fast

[unkempt blade]

depends on what recipes you want to use and if you want to use batteries as vehicle fuel

[rugged jasper]

no I will not be using batteries for that tho ^^

can I just skip it maybe ? 😄

[unkempt blade]

They're barely used for stuff besides vehicle fuel so it'd be an easy one to skip unless you just want to build the factory for fun

[rugged jasper]

thanks ^^

[queen slate]

You can use them in a supercomputer alt just fyi

[still yew]

im trying to start a sever for a mate and i, ive downloaded sds but im a bit lost now? any tips

[leaden turret]

#dedicated-servers if nobody responds here

[unkempt blade]

I'd start with reading https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers and ask questions in the channel marv linked

[still yew]

yeah just noticed that channel, ill move to there

thank you though

[fluid crow]

how do we feel about turbo ammo?

[unkempt blade]

I like it but only if I pump the trigger. Holding it down is way too inaccurate

[frank thicket]

Hello I have question, does satisfactory on epic games require a dedicated server to run properly, when playing with other people?

[whole robin]

Can I just use polymer from fuel refinement to make the plastic and rubber that I need, or is plastic and rubber needed in large quantities in a lot of recipes?

[fluid crow]

seems like the clear choice for most things but some stuff like spiders it seems tough

[dusky hedge]

its fine to start off but need a lot later

[unkempt blade]

even for really big targets the hitbox feels weird/misleading to me when I'm holding the trigger down 🙁

[silent pagoda]

why does diluted packaged fuel exist... it has really good ratios but why do i need to package it to mix lol??

[fluid crow]

the thing I notice is the bullet speed seems much slower

[dusky hedge]

homing ammo is great for spiders when you figure out theirmovements

[zealous urchin]

skip

btw idk why devs decided to make four v6s strapped together instead of a gas turbine

[fluid crow]

mine needs a new valve cover

[clear mesa]

Because you haven't unlocked the blender yet

To make regular diluted fuel

It's the trade off you get for being able to make it earlier

[silent pagoda]

so there's an equivalent recipe later on got it

[clear mesa]

Mhm!

[silent pagoda]

still silly but i guess it's fine

[clear mesa]

The packages in the packaged version can just be looped in a closed circuit btw

So it's honestly not too bad of a trade imo

[ornate saffron]

the later version is more compact. Packaged fuel is great though you can get roughly 18gw per 300oil

[clear mesa]

It is more compact but it also uses more electricity no?

[ornate saffron]

you can sloop the Package fuel refinery too doubling our out put.

What i often do is sloop it for jet pack fuel when needed

[ornate saffron]

yup

[ornate saffron]

now Nitro rocket fuel that gets my mojo going

[clear mesa]

Hmmm I think I'll honestly stick to the packaged version...I kind of like the design I have for closed circuit for the packages

[clear mesa]

Haven't unlocked that one yet

Been trying to find it , no luck yet

[ornate saffron]

i wont be breaking down my packaged fuel setup at any point. ill just convert it to Turbo then rocket. I made it in 3 sections so i can leave my power running while i upgrade each section

[clear mesa]

But if you have nitro rocket why would you go to turbo?

[ornate saffron]

end game Power generation boils down to Rocket fuel or Nuclear. either or

[ornate saffron]

im not going Nitro this time thats why. Im just keeping power resonable until i go Nuclear

[clear mesa]

Ah I see

[ornate saffron]

Ive gone Nitro rocket fuel 8 times. and ive never done Nuclear this is the Fallout run

gonna burn it all down lol

[clear mesa]

You looking to use all the uranium?

[ornate saffron]

naw start with one node and go from there

[clear mesa]

Makes sense...I'd get the annoying underground ones out the way...

[ornate saffron]

doing the one near the swamp in the waterfalll

[clear mesa]

That one's impure yeah?

[leaden matrix]

Mmmmmm tower uranium, tastyyy :>

[clear mesa]

Make sure you get the alts for uranium

(Uranium fuel unit)

(And infused uranium cell too I think?)

[ornate saffron]

Ill likely have every alt. I tend to find all the recipes for every phase

[spark escarp]

How do you make it that your foundations have no fancy looking design and just basic like grey?

[ornate saffron]

have you unlocked the awesome sho/p

[spark escarp]

Yessir

[ornate saffron]

its in there

[spark escarp]

Alrighty let me take a quick look

[ornate saffron]

Concrete is nice as it only uses ...Concrete to build

[spark escarp]

Ahh I found it awesome dudeee

Im doing phase 5 of the space elev. right now and Im just trying to make my factories a little bit better design wise 🤣

[ornate saffron]

my first run every factory was a floating platform that looks like shit. Belts going everywhere and anywhere

[spark escarp]

well my plan was to unlock miner mk3 and mk6 belts and then make everything fancy

This is like my 4th run and this is the furthest I ever got

[ornate saffron]

having the ability to lay 100m/min Of mk6 belts is the first thing i do endgame

[molten nest]

how can I change direction of belt when R for mode ;

[lime kraken]

how can I add a BP to an Section ? i tryed drag and drop and search for any options but i cant find anything

[spark escarp]

I just didnt get the point in actually make my factory looking good without mk3 like then i would have to rebuild everything again and again ya know?

[unkempt blade]

I also like to wait until the hoverpack before I stress too much about how my factories look. I can't really make myself wait for mk6 belts 😆

[spark escarp]

oh yeah man

[ornate saffron]

whilke freee placing belts you have to pay attention to how the starting point is orientated

[spark escarp]

i just got the drink a cofee achievement 🤣

[molten nest]

in blueprint I must put belt that place first :(, can not change it

[spark escarp]

give me some tips in #screenshots

[ornate saffron]

Ive settled on making a factory effient for the phase and technology im on and decorate it before moving on. Its harder to expand but im okay with that, When the miner gets ugraded from Mk1 to mk3 ill shove a splitter infront and route the new found resources to a new facility

[spark escarp]

yeahhh i realized that yesterday that I couldve done that but now its to late so 😄

[ornate saffron]

to help ill need more specifics for your situatation. Make a post in #1038092680493801533 with screen shots and details and ill come along and take a look

[iron portal]

I keep hearing about how bad the aluminum process is in this game and like
It can't be that bad right?

[spark escarp]

IT IS, IT REALLY IS

I started with alum. 3 days ago and its the definition of pain 😄

[fluid crow]

it's not as bad as all the other stuff they have you doing around that time

[spark escarp]

#screenshots help me choose 🤣

[ornate saffron]

its the first large scale hurdle. Most (not all) of the bauxite is in the raised area in the middle of the map creating a logistics challenge. Then there is the by product water from the alunimum scrap making process you must deal with as well. Once you learn the lesson the first time its easy but for most the firqst time is a real challenge

[ornate saffron]

you can color the concrete one too.

[spark escarp]

Its like either I use the left one or the middle one

The dark one is more of like a floor or celling

[iron portal]

I think the reason I don't see it has a huge challenge is I'm forcing myself to do some tough logistics early
I'm preparing myself

[molten nest]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1464263481904857098
here is my issue 😄

[ornate saffron]

it can help. Biggest advice i can give is not to loop the water byproduct back into the aluminum production. Find another way to use it. Any pure recipe or wet concrete is a good solution

[spark escarp]

Alright guys, thanks for the help and nice talk 🙂

[ornate saffron]

anytime

[unkempt sable]

i want to use the diluted packaged fuel recipe to turn heavy oil residue into fuel (i dont have the non-canister recipe). if i want to recycle the empty canisters from fuel unpackaging -> water packaging and only need 300/min of fuel in the system, does it mean i only need 300 empty canisters running in a loop? or should i have more empty canisters just to fill up the machines

[fluid crow]

seems like you would want some extra besides just the system full

[spark escarp]

do you know if theres glass floor? Or transparent foundations

[unkempt sable]

hmm alright

[fluid crow]

really all depends on your system and the speed off the turn around for containers

[unkempt sable]

oo ya makes sense

[ornate saffron]

kinda

[spark escarp]

ooh where at, i havent found it

[ornate saffron]

Structual frame set in the Awesome shope

ten ticket is think

[spark escarp]

alrighty 🙂

[wispy osprey]

I wish shapez 2 was also on mobile

Would legit be really good

[ornate saffron]

from what i have seen of shapez one it would be a good firt

[wispy osprey]

The second game is a lot better but it's pc only which is a setback because other PC logistics games are better

Shapez at least has an infinite endgame loop lol

[reef basin]

loop it back but not merge

[ornate saffron]

ya the ratio is nice the output is exactly half the prior input. but i keep it simple and just use the byproduct elsewhere

[whole robin]

Is the best use for heavy oil just to be turned into fuel?

[ornate saffron]

the best use is the one that fills your needs.

Most people turn it into fuel

[reef basin]

depends how you define "best"

[mortal ginkgo]

you can also turn it into coke for some late game recipes

[fluid crow]

I needed power and needed rid of the heavy oil so was an easy choice

[whole robin]

The thing that has the most uses throughout the game after you unlock it

[unkempt blade]

HOR => petro coke for sure is the best

[whole robin]

Is it mainly used for recipes that are required for progression

[unkempt blade]

ya all sorts of amazing recipes use coke

[reef basin]

well, that changes with what recipes you use

[whole robin]

What if I'm still in phase 3

[mortal ginkgo]

I suggest not getting to this debate with some folk as it becomes an endless loop. Some confuses with "functionality" with "usefulness".

Aliminum Rods has functionality but it is truly useless and thats why not even my mom uses it.

Molded Beams has amazing functionality AND usefulness due to it asking for limestone which is abundant and giving you more in return.

[whole robin]

Your mother plays satisfactory???

[mortal ginkgo]

I respect their opinion regardless of how I think it is wrong.

[mortal ginkgo]

I WISH BROTHERMAN

[reef basin]

I mean still depends on which recipes you use... which can vary even between factories, so you can't really say which one is "best" generally

[ornate saffron]

What is best is extremely subjective. And really depends on all the choices you've made up to this point. What is best will change in the future too. So it's a hard question to answer unless we are playing your game.

In short. If your not sure and you want a firm answer, make power. You'll always need more. But that may not be best.

[wispy osprey]

I may end up fully restarting one of these days

With my current knowledge I can do a lot better, currently I'm taking a break before I make up my mind.

Here's what I'd change in a second playthrough

● More modular, it isn't the worst thing in the world to do modular for awhile

● Stay close to the ground, keep trains elevated above tallest cliff (red forest)

● Much more improved resource management overall. I can bring a massive amount of stuff to an area but distribution is a headache

[reef basin]

if you don't want to lose all the progress, you could also just keep old factories and build new ones

[wispy osprey]

I won't erase the save

[zenith sage]

Removing everything that isn't a storage/depo in save editor is also a nice way

[wispy osprey]

I can reach my point in phase 3 a lot faster than I did on my main save, even though I really hate the early game

I think everyone thinks about this from time to time, a lot of people have restarted our taken long breaks

[zenith pecan]

In addition, depends on what materials are local 🙂

[wispy osprey]

I'd do this for everything that isn't a coal power line

[zenith sage]

Very valid

[ornate saffron]

Exactly. And thats another choice the player has made. Where he is building

[wispy osprey]

Keeping storages for more buildings, rebuild turbo power a lot better, and then do my material hunting

But unfortunately I'm on ps5, starting on phase 3 turns off achievements

[zenith sage]

Honestly, if I started a new save I personally wouldn't focus too much on turbo and just waited for rocket 🤔

It's so much neater imo

[zenith pecan]

If I did rocket again, I would probably build it a little smaller than what I have atm.

[wispy osprey]

I am considering just bolstering the size of my coal plants

There's a lot of coal in the world

[zenith sage]

Well... I'm 1/4th of a way to 288 generators

I don't like coal fast the point of fuel unlock, cause it uses water and takes a ton of space for not so much power tbh...

[ornate saffron]

216 more to go.

[wispy osprey]

I think 8-10GW will clear me from phase 3, even if it's just a tad slower

RF lasts the rest of the game

[zenith sage]

Should be fairly easy now that I have everything figured out
#screenshots message

[zenith pecan]

These days I limit my coal to 32 generators, it gives me plenty of power and is more than enough to boot up fuel.

[mortal ginkgo]

"39533453098 fuel gens on 1m ficsit foundation in sky" Stater Pack

[ornate saffron]

32 looks nice over the lake north of the grassy start

[wispy osprey]

Noted that some people just used regular fuel for fuel gens

[kind kindle]

Guys how much industrial beams per minute should i automate?

[mortal ginkgo]

phase 3 you can easily get away with it, even more with dilluted fuel if you fancy

[zenith pecan]

I built massive coal in the past, the largest had 96 generators, but the time taken doing that was better spent building a like number of fuel generators.

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[kind kindle]

I said how much

[zenith sage]

Dilluted in phase 3 seems like a major pain

[zenith sage]

All of them

[mortal ginkgo]

I answered you correctly.

[zenith sage]

or however you actually need/depo allows you to upload

[mortal ginkgo]

we dont know your future plans, we have no idea what to say about how much you need.

I need around 5k/min for my late game setup 😛

[kind kindle]

Im barley holding on my nodes can’t expand much without going to the other side of the word

[wispy osprey]

It's just a simple canister loop

[white dawn]

It's not bad once you realize that you can fit 2x Packager + 1x Refinery even in a 4x4 blueprinter, in a little closed loop. Can even pre-load 20-30 Empty Canisters inside the Packaged Water packager right inside the blueprint. Becomes a one-click mini-blender which takes in HOR+Water and spits out Fuel.

[wispy osprey]

Doesn't take up as much space and isn't as wasteful as TF plants

[kind kindle]

Like a good start point maybe?

[white dawn]

One possible 4x4 blueprint layout: #1450657483768074240 message

[zenith sage]

Hm, I guess

I honestly haven't touched diluted fuel yet, since even with 288 rocket generators I'll only use half of the oil I have available 😅

[zenith pecan]

Space is relative if you build towers.#satisfactory-experimental message

[reef basin]

you make a simple blueprint that is basically equal to a blender

[wispy osprey]

Canister recycling doesn't even need a crafting input, you can use overflow fuel on recycling rubber and plastic. And when you don't need fuel anymore, turn it into a 100% rubber and plastic plant

I think one of the pure shore nodes is prefect for a rubber/plastic plant

Blue crater is better for RF but you can do either technically

[silent pagoda]

why so many machines???

oh damn, i cant post images. it takes 104 refineries to get 1950 turbofuel

i wouldn't mind if refineries weren't so huge, take up half the biome

plus the extra 85 i need to utilise the deposits

[fluid crow]

it's how it works, you're like this place is so beautiful and pristine then you fill it with factories

[unkempt blade]

you could make less turbofuel 🙂

[silent pagoda]

but that's how much it takes to fully utilise the residue from my rubber and plastic 😢

[ornate saffron]

Overclock them

[silent pagoda]

189 refineries goes to 76 + 226 power shards

(i can't afford the shards)

[unkempt blade]

or... you could triple the HOR and overclock the refineries and build 228 refineries...

smart right?

[silent pagoda]

not sure how i'd triple the HOR but NO

[unkempt blade]

do whatever you already did but two more time 😄

[fluid crow]

then complain how there's not enough resources

[unkempt blade]

exactly! the ficsit way!

[silent pagoda]

i have decided to build a box of refineries off into the void

to avoid filling this entire pool with factory

i know, my save the day bonus will be docked for inefficiency

[indigo kiln]

Dear god oil production as a step in a new direction of complexity

[ornate saffron]

Im in phase 3 and I have over 600. I just sloop the slugs

[silent pagoda]

i know i could get them, but i don't want to spend the next two hours exploring when i've built two rails and a smeltry in the last 30 hours of gameplay

gotta get something done

[ornate saffron]

Different people have different playstyles. I like getting all the recipes in a phase before completing it and moving on. As a result I do a lot of exploring and I take breaks between projects

[silent pagoda]

oh for sure, i love to go exploring after i get a factory set up, let it run and let the benefits roll in. but i haven't gotten anything done in a while, paralyzed with options and all that

[mortal stone]

I was planning to rebuild my factory post coal, but I ended up just redoing my coal power plants to 16x to ensure I have excess power going into way too many power storages

Have no clue where I screwed up with fluid mechanics since some of the generators was lacking water but it looks like an extra water generator at the other end worked

[tall lantern]

the usual culprit there is exceeding pipe limits

like trying to pump the water for 8 gens (360/min) through one mk1 pipe segment (300/min)

[mortal stone]

Oh yea, that'll do it

[silent pagoda]

i've yet only built one coal plant, my solution for that was ABSOLUTElY disgusting

[mortal stone]

I completely forgot about the pipe limit

[silent pagoda]

can't get a screenshot rn but i tried to balance 4 pipes in the worst way ever

[mortal stone]

In hindsight, I'll prob end up redoing it again in a neater way tmr

[coral marsh]

Decided to continue achieving 250 Reactors, and I finally figured out a layout I can do that'd be better than just 120 on 2 sides plus 10.
Imma do 2 layers of 125 reactors and place some foundations out front for pipe stands

Just need to leave enough room between each reactor for the pipes which should be easy

[stable dew]

hi can someone quick explane why a friend on my server cant open the dimensional storage ?

[coral marsh]

Im gonna assume they're designed to be personal storages

[white dawn]

Nah, they're supposed to be shared

[coral marsh]

So only the world owner can access them

Okay then this is a weird glitch

[stable dew]

but it is a server no world host

[white dawn]

Maybe just a desync issue? Try bouncing the server + clients?

Yeah, IMO more likely to be desync problems

[stable dew]

okey but he cant access it or open

[white dawn]

RIght, what I'm saying is: try bouncing the server (plus his connected client) and then see if that sorts it out

[zenith shard]

hmm what do you mean? any video/screenshot?

[white dawn]

If you've already done that, of course, then clearly it didn't help. :)

[stable dew]

what does that mean

[white dawn]

Restart the server. Turn it off and on again

[queen slate]

gimme one sec and ill get a ss

[stable dew]

did that already

[coral marsh]

Whats the max length of a pipe? The game doesn't give a value.

[humble osprey]

how do i mirror blueprints easily

[queen slate]

#screenshots message sry for the quick layout (im building my heat sink factory)

[zenith shard]

can you show the input lane? as in from the other side :D

[white dawn]

If you mean a single pipe segment, the wiki's probably got that number. If you mean a pipeline itself, you can technically have a pipe as long as you can stand to build, but we always recommend keeping pipes as short as possible

[coral marsh]

Build one, save it, chose it to build and place it in the designer, rotate it 180⁰

[zenith shard]

or maybe a front view

[humble osprey]

no idont wanna rotate 180, i wanna flip it

those are two different opperation

[coral marsh]

"The wiki probably has the value" just say you dont know

[queen slate]

#screenshots message

[coral marsh]

Then destroy and rebuild the splitters and mergers

Flip those around so they point the other way

Pipe length is 1-50 meters apparently

[white dawn]

"Here's a place which probably has the answer you want" is a lot more useful than "I don't know."

But if you really don't want anyone trying to help you, I guess I'll try to remember that for the future 🤷

[queen slate]

#screenshots message this is how i made it if u wanna know @zenith shard

[white dawn]

Apologies if my redirect to The Place With The Answers™ offended you.

[unborn moss]

You can't just flip blueprints. Most of the factories are not semantical.

[coral marsh]

I ask here because its what the damn community is for, what if, I dont want to look something up myself and would rather have a conversation with some one about it. Ever think about that? Maybe I just wanted to talk to someone

[coral marsh]

It didn't, and it never would, I just dont understand why people always redirect people who ask questions about something to Google or any search engine, perhaps that person just wants a conversation even if small or insignificant

[white dawn]

How wasn't I talking to you? I wasn't sure if you were talking about a single pipe segment or a whole pipeline, and you may have noticed that I did answer the latter

I was engaging in conversation. "Here's a place where you can find your answers" isn't a brush-off, it's part of that conversation

Anyway, you're obviously quite tetchy about it, so I'll be quiet. Next time if you get pissed off that someone's not being sufficiently helpful, feel free to block. ❤️

[coral marsh]

I have my answer anyway, it being 50 meters at max makes sense considering mk2 pumps can only give 50m of headlift

[coral marsh]

Its cute how people think I get pissed off so easily, I dont and ive worked towards that a lot in the last 12 years. I get miffed, not pissed off

[opaque wren]

Is there any way I can chain /speed up hard drives research? I did some scouting for 2h and came back with 27.

[white dawn]

Not once you have a backlog, no, but you can construct a MAM out in the wild, start scanning, and then deconstruct the MAM

You can still find hard drives more quickly than the MAM can scan, but it can at least cut into the backlog considerably

[silent pagoda]

nope, but you can build new MAM's near you when it completes and start new research immediately

[coral marsh]

If ive offended you, I am sorry, im just tired of always being redirected to Google, I like talking to people and I dont always wanna open Google so I dont see that pathetic, retarded fking "ai mode" button

[white dawn]

Apart from that, I assume there's mods to decrease the drive research time, if you're willing to use mods

[coral marsh]

I do believe there is one that makes it like 5 seconds or something

[opaque wren]

I stay without mods for now. I guess I will just pick some renovation project for like...3h

[coral marsh]

10 minutes each, 27 total, 10×27=270/60= 4hours 30 minutes

Have fun, make it 5 hours to include walking time and build times

[opaque wren]

Sure but I am looking for 2 blueprints and if I get one of them, then I can get busy

[coral marsh]

Fair

[unborn moss]

Every 10 minutes or so just plop down a mam, scan a drive then destroy it.

[opaque wren]

Is there any way I can check the unnlock progress %?

e.g. how many alternate recipes I still have to unlock

[coral marsh]

Btw I posted a blueprint in the #design-and-architecture channel, for coke steel pipes, full details included, just gotta scroll up a bit

[coral marsh]

Not as far as im aware, but there is enough for every alt recipe

[pulsar arch]

Hey can anyone play with me on play station?

[white dawn]

#1201555265942724758

[sinful cove]

so I am getting this bug where while using the parachute most of the time it works fine but randomly it would release while in the air and once it starts this it will just keep doing it but then later it works fine

it is really annoying

it use to not do this

but i have not played since the last couple little updates either so not sure what is causing this

[timber saffron]

Hey! Do others get this bug where the hover pack keeps flying up and gets stuck at the highest altitude and doesnt let you descend in multiplayer? 😮

[sinful cove]

i know that has happened before in the past i thought they fixed this

[timber saffron]

Seems to only happen in multiplayer, but occurring to all people in our server now 😮 Thought they had fixed it too

[sinful cove]

the parachute thing is not something you can just replicate you just have to play a lot and use it a lot for it to trigger too and once it happens it will keep happening for awhile until it does not do it anyone it is annoying enough and often enough that it becomes frustrating because my factories are modular so i have to jump between sections and using the parachute helps with this

yea i been getting the satisfactory itch and decided to play for the first time in awhile 2 days ago but got so frustrated with the parachute thing it turned me off and i turned off the game

it acts like C keep being pressed all the time and its not and my keyboard is fine and i ran keyboard test to make sure C is not being pressed or pushed down and such and its the only game i am having a problem related to a cancel thing so i know its not my keyboard

as i said never had this issue before so it has to be one of the updates since i last played

[valid timber]

just started the sam research tree like 30 hours into a playthrough

god im so annoyed i waited so long, i was literally asking myself an HOUR ago if I should set something up to keep my common building stuff in one place

ive also ignored mercer spheres not wanting to deal with the hassle

[zenith shard]

@queen slate wait you can have a conveyor lift that connects directly between a splitter and a factory building?

[queen slate]

yep 🙂

[sinful cove]

that depends on where you are on the map too nice thing about this game you can take your time

[zenith shard]

how do you do that?

[ornate saffron]

Don't sleep on the mam. Lots of great stuff there

[valid timber]

yeah

ive kinda been doing it to stall having to finish up my phase 2 space elevator parts

i know i really should automate smart plating and versatile framework but i dont want to!!!!

[queen slate]

you can either turn the lift from the splitter or from the input

[sinful cove]

yes i do this method when making a compact manifold setup

[white dawn]

"sleep on the MAM" == hop on top and then log off from the multiplayer session

[valid timber]

true

[zenith shard]

but like how do you make the distance between the input and the splitter exact?

so that you don't need extra conveyors at the bottom

[sinful cove]

i can show you a screenshot of my manifold setup

[valid timber]

alrighty its nice and stupidly late... time to get some sleep

tommorrow i will automate space elevator parts

[clear mesa]

oooo you will automate it ooooo 🪄

[valid timber]

for sure. I promise. I will do it.

[queen slate]

its pretty forgiving

if its near it it should snap

[clear mesa]

all the later parts basically require some project part or another...

[valid timber]

I know I'll thank myself for it later down the line when i have a huge stock pile of smart plating that I can coast on till the end but god am I dreading it

[clear mesa]

so not doing it is shooting yourself in the foot :p

[zenith shard]

is there like a way to snap it first?

[valid timber]

can you awesome sink space elevator parts I might set up an overflow with a smart splitter if theyre worth anything

[clear mesa]

yeah, they're great for sinking actually

[valid timber]

fannntastic

[ornate saffron]

Do you want a reference list of all the parts you need? Let's you know if they are worth automating
.....||they are||

[valid timber]

Ive looked it up

[sinful cove]

you just have to play with the spacing but i move my machine 2 clicks over and it works normally i can dm you a screenshot

[zenith shard]

but god!!

[clear mesa]

What list are you referring to?

[zenith shard]

its so annoying to get ores ._.

[clear mesa]

it is? 😭

[valid timber]

My plan right now is just to build it, let it run for a few hours and get a few storage containers worth, then when they're full enough to coast on till the end, break the factory down and use it for something else

[queen slate]

i like to put the lift manifold in the centre of a tile and then i shove the manufacturers up to the ground one but i dont let it clip

[sinful cove]

actually i just post it in #screenshots

[zenith shard]

yeah idk how to move ores from the other side of the map

[valid timber]

im not sacrificing 2 pure nodes for my versatile frameworks!!!

[valid timber]

where are you located on the map?

[sinful cove]

if you wanna see it

[clear mesa]

train..or if you have the patience a really long conveyor

[zenith shard]

south west

[valid timber]

honestly @zenith shard its better to just get blade runners then go and set that stuff up just at the nodes lol

[sinful cove]

it has my lift hooked up directly to a machine to a splitter

[valid timber]

make a really long foundation bridge with space for hypertubes later down the line

speaking of, i need hypertubes

[zenith shard]

what's that

[valid timber]

maybe instead of doing space elevator parts ill set that up tomorrow

[valid timber]

youll find out

[zenith shard]

umm

[clear mesa]

[zenith shard]

im quite far in the game ;-;

[valid timber]

lol???

[clear mesa]

theres no way you havent found hypertubes then

[valid timber]

yeah theyre a phase 2 unlock

[zenith shard]

im already at phase 2

[clear mesa]

thats not quite far then

[valid timber]

theyre right at the end of stage 4 in phase 2 @zenith shard

[clear mesa]

youre quite early actually lol

[zenith shard]

I just don't know what's foundation bridge

[sinful cove]

the last 2 screenshots in #screenshots that i posted shows you how that works

[clear mesa]

he just means making a bridge, out of foundation

[valid timber]

I just mean a long bridge made of foundations

[zenith shard]

but what is a "bridge"?

just make a long slab out of foundations?

[valid timber]

yeah thats what I mean

[zenith shard]

ohhh

:')

maybe I should learn choo choo

[valid timber]

i did that in my last few playthroughs, its kinda ugly unless you set up some sink architecure to make it look more... physically possible

[valid timber]

not available till stage 3 iirc

[clear mesa]

choo choo comes in phase 3

[zenith shard]

that looked spaghetti and complicated af ;-;

[valid timber]

phase 3*

[zenith shard]

uhhh my bad, I am actually phase 3

I unlocked choo choo but still never used it lol

[valid timber]

spaghetti is only spaghetti if you didnt plan it

[clear mesa]

you should learn the train as soon as possible, i prolonged it because i felt like it'd be complicated and it's kind of a "mistake"

[valid timber]

so worth settng up!

[zenith shard]

is it??

[clear mesa]

trains make logistics a lot easier unless youre ready to build long spans of conveyor belts

[sinful cove]

its a compact manafold looks better when i am on mk3 belts and its not its just a really close up screenshot when you have these lined up with others it is actually clean

[zenith shard]

already doing that so far xD

[valid timber]

yeah, they let you move huge amounts between locations, basically a requirement for late game

also saves you doing huge beltwork

[clear mesa]

ye the difference between them is that you dont need to redo it all to move something else with a train, you just set a different route or add another train on the same rail you already built

[zenith shard]

hmmm I would love to see a top-down view if its okay ^^

[clear mesa]

with conveyors, you're forced to redo the line for another ore or even just upgrading the amount of ore

[sinful cove]

its only a 4 smelter setup as its a new save so keep that in mind but give me a sec

[valid timber]

im excited to get trains on my current playthrough

ive got my steel plant set up 5 minutes away from my main location and i run out of beams all the time

i had to run back there 10 times in one project build I was losing my mind

[zenith shard]

ooooo might be good for my charcoal / fuel / plastic / rubber transportation

right now I need 4 lines of belts

[clear mesa]

it would be perfect for that haha

and a lot cleaner too

[valid timber]

the factorio strategy

[clear mesa]

ive seen some people blueprint large belt busses, they can look good too

[valid timber]

they can but its pretty bad for performance afaik

[sinful cove]

image added but keep in mind its only a 4x setup when you have like 16 of these it looks nice and really compact things

[silent pagoda]

is it a bug that i open a drop pod and there is no hard drive in it

[valid timber]

@sinful cove Looks real nice!

[sinful cove]

thanks 🙂

[clear mesa]

not sure about what it does to performance but ye...id just go the train route either way cause having rails all around your factories and island is pretty cool in my eyes :p

[valid timber]

I haven't played around with trying to make my factories as compact as that yet but I'd like to try

maybe its worth a shot on my space elevator parts build

[valid timber]

big agree

hahh although ive only played with trains on 2 worlds and they were both my friends

everytime I play I get so close to finishing phase 2 and then lose motivation

[sinful cove]

i have a blueprint i made of this but cannot access it till i unlock steel so i have to keep doing these by hand each time until then lol i have it like this for both smelters and constructors, it is more complicated for assemblers tho

[valid timber]

mk3 belt blueprint im assuming?

[clear mesa]

good luck the game legit only gets slower :p

[sinful cove]

i have all belt version i made in blueprint

[valid timber]

I actually have blueprints unlocked but I haven't played with them yet, maybe I can try this time around

[sinful cove]

just incase

[clear mesa]

prob your reason why you get bored, they speed up building tenfold

[valid timber]

It was usually because I rushed a factory and ended up losing my mind trying to remake it because It was horrible... this time im taking everything a lot slower

[clear mesa]

also wont run into the mix up issue

[valid timber]

eh, i dont really get bored

[clear mesa]

if youre copy pasting a small section you know is good

[valid timber]

i just find myself doing anything else other then space elevator parts

sorry about my grammar its pretty late right now

i was gonna do uhh a blueprint to set up a huge battery setup for my coal plants

Never had the chance to mess with batteries either so I thought I'd give it a try

[sinful cove]

but nice thing is all i do is when placing these down i make it where it is enough room between the end point and these for expansion so i all i have to do is take out the front belt and lift and add another section to expand so when i get mk3 belts i just add to it pretty easy

[white dawn]

(Keep in mind that it's technically "power storage" -- there's an unrelated item in the game called a "battery." Generally pretty easy to tell what people mean from context, but it's nice to use the proper term. :)

[clear mesa]

theyre a nice backup in case you ever wanna upgrade power or do some work on existing power plants

[clear mesa]

ptsd flashbacks

[white dawn]

(Understandable though since they look and act like batteries and even ADA uses the word "battery" when describing them. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

They are CHUNGUS batteries.

lets hope this convo doesnt spawn greeny

[valid timber]

yeah last time I expanded my grid from 16 to 32 coal plants my disconnected a single wire and my entire grid went down for like 30 minutes while I freaked out trying to figure out what I broke

[mortal ginkgo]

we will get a lecture for 5 hours

[valid timber]

Tis why i set up the batteries as a midway between the generators and my plants so I dont lose power if my grid blows up on itself while im working

[clear mesa]

man....i once had to make an impromptu biomass burner power plant just to start up my coal again because i fucked everything up

[valid timber]

haha yeah ive done that a few times on my prior saves

[clear mesa]

thankfully it's never happened again because once it happened once i put in safeguards for it

[valid timber]

Playing with power is probably my favourite part of the game so far though

[white dawn]

I'll often create an emergency offline Power Storage array which is sufficient to jumpstart my power-generation machines for an hour or so, just in case. Keep 'em on the grid to charge and then switch 'em off until needed

[clear mesa]

but still...worst experience ever

[white dawn]

Though I haven't actually tripped a grid since Update 3, so it's a bit silly. Still, backup systems can be their own reward

[valid timber]

seeing my beautiful 32 coal generator grid all working smoothly is so satisfying

[mortal ginkgo]

you guys not using battery storages as decorations? PATHETIC

[sinful cove]

this making me mad my parachute keeps releasing like as if i am pressing the C key and i am not but then randomly it stops doing that

[clear mesa]

Theyre more useful for servers i'd assume rather than singleplayer worlds, like I said, once it happened to me, it never happened again :p

[valid timber]

Try re-binding it to see if its an issue with your C key or an issue with the game perhaps

[white dawn]

Once you've got Priority Power Switches, those are the real emergency-power solutions, really

If you do trip a grid it's not your power that goes down with it

[valid timber]

yeah i was looking at those very excited to unlock them

[white dawn]

Of course can use multiple techniques if you like. :D Just 'cause you've got PPSes doesn't mean you can't also build out some power storage

[valid timber]

unfortunatley I need plastic I think for that research tree

[clear mesa]

You know I've been meaning to actually using the switches but my wires are such a mess..

[sinful cove]

its not the C key this is a brand new keyboard and a higher end one and there is other games i play that uses the C key for stuff and it does not trigger and if it was triggering randomly i would be getting that while typing and such

[white dawn]

(I've actually not used PPS for some time due to the hoverpack bug, though)

[valid timber]

strange

[white dawn]

Really helps to get in the habit of isolating your factories powerwise, even if you're not using PPS or whatever

I always want my factories being supplied by a single wire, whether there's a switch or whatever inbetween or not

[clear mesa]

That I already do

[white dawn]

Easy disabling if you need to, etc

[clear mesa]

Mhm

[valid timber]

whats up with the hoverpack?

ive been very excited to unlock both that and the jetpack since I'm a big fan of building very vertically and ive been pulling my hair out recently due to the amount of times I just fall off of my factories

[clear mesa]

Hoverpack is fine on it's own

I've never used the PPS so im not sure what bug he's referring to

[valid timber]

ah

[sinful cove]

he is talking about multiplayer

[clear mesa]

But I'd just assume there is some conflict which stops it from recharging

[valid timber]

im sure hell let us know when hes back

im still so annoyed

[clear mesa]

It's got issues on multiplayer too?

[valid timber]

i was running around exploring earlier, ignored like 20 mercer spheres because they were in weird spots

finally did the SAM research and im shaking my fist at myself

[sinful cove]

for hoverpack that was the discussion little while ago i have not personally tested it recently

i am just having issues with parachute release when its not intended

[valid timber]

is it worth upgrading the upload speed tree? the diminishing percentage of upload speed seems to be kind of a put off

[clear mesa]

Never had this bug tbh

[white dawn]

(cc: @clear mesa ) Hoverpacks get their power from a single pole/whatever as you're flying around, and that source changes as you fly around. If the power source changes from one grid to a different grid, one of the grids' machines will temporarily go idle

That can happen either with regular switches or PPSes

[valid timber]

oh wow

wonder how that could possibly occur

[white dawn]

It's not a huge deal; the machines turn back on after a second or so. But it can be annoying if you're spinning up a new factory and waiting to make sure that everything's totally stable, etc

[clear mesa]

huh..

[sinful cove]

its not my keyboard as if it was randomly hitting C i would be getting that while typing or my other games that uses C keybind

[valid timber]

itd be annoying if youre in the middle of manifolds saturating or something I feel

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's definitely just an annoyance. But it's enough of an annoyance that I've just been using a single unified grid for some time now. :D

'cause if I've gotta choose between hoverpack or PPS, I'm picking hoverpack