satisfactory

[opaque wren]

Once you unlock the dimensional depo, mercer spheres are premiums.

[barren tulip]

i have like 27 in my inventory

[whole ermine]

although how i build in thihs game is i place a blueprint, connect, look at calculator, get distracted by youtube, forget about game

[hardy swan]

i find one of these spheres everywhere i go ,the somer lace is more rare to find tho

[stuck dagger]

That's intentional

[opaque wren]

Get SAM research. You unlock depo.

[whole ermine]

use them for space elevator parts!

50% off all resources

[hardy swan]

in phase 4 or 5?

[whole ermine]

nonono

[stuck dagger]

Anytime really

[whole ermine]

insert them into machines to only need half the resources

[barren tulip]

i should've mentioned that i have like half of everything the base produces in depots

[whole ermine]

you dont have to automate space elevator parts fully

[hardy swan]

WHAT, THAT IST BROKEN???

[whole ermine]

yeah

[stuck dagger]

Say if your ACU production feels a little slow (dunno what ACU is in your language) stick the somers in there and boom, double the output

[magic rune]

dupe some loop

[whole ermine]

i dont even know what acu is lol

[opaque wren]

That's good but dimensional depo teleports resources to a secondary inventory that you can use anytime.

[stuck dagger]

automated control unit

[whole ermine]

if your shpaghetti is slow add loops and prepare to handle like 5k more megawatts

[opaque wren]

High levels of dimensional depo and you can pretty much have free inventory and build everything.

[whole ermine]

pasta*

nuclear pasta

[stuck dagger]

Somers also are for building power amps, but those are kinda late-game

[leaden matrix]

The DI-Depo is the only thing keeping me from making a hypertube cannon😭

[hardy swan]

my base feels kinda lame right now i dont know if i rebuild from zero or ignore and starts another

[reef basin]

never rebuild, always build new

[whole ermine]

there should be nuclear pasta, and then nuclear antipasto

[reef basin]

you'll have more factory in less time

[whole ermine]

theres 2 3rd party tools you really wanna use too

[hardy swan]

the problem is that my energy production is almost on the limit

[whole ermine]

both can be considered "cheaty" tbh

[reef basin]

build more power first then

[opaque wren]

Make more energy.

[stuck dagger]

Power is power.

[hardy swan]

i have 1200MW coal based

but i need coal to steel things

[stuck dagger]

pff

At phase 3 you can use oil for power

[reef basin]

there's like 50k/min coal on the map, you'll be fine

[opaque wren]

You need to switch to oil.

[barren tulip]

yeah i know i meant dimensional depots when i say depots 😅

[stuck dagger]

250MW from one fuel gen is far stronger than coal gens

[hardy swan]

i am unlocking these right now

[whole ermine]

phase 4 you can like 2x that with blenders and watered down fuel and turbofuel

[barren tulip]

i would call non dimensional depots "storage"'s

[reef basin]

don't need blenders for that

[whole ermine]

its nicer

[reef basin]

not much

[magic rune]

this isn't really a spoiler, but by phase 5 you're going to need triple digit gigawatt power production

[whole ermine]

id much rather deal with pipes than rows of packagers

[reef basin]

also no idea why are you giving all these info to a new player lol

[whole ermine]

hey its not just me

and theres no harm in knowing later stuff

[hardy swan]

what oil generator takes? just the crude oil?

[reef basin]

don't worry about it now

[hardy swan]

or oil and something else?

[reef basin]

you'll learn later when it's relevant

focus on present, not future 😉

[whole ermine]

whats wrong with giving information they ask for

[magic rune]

this is relatable, it took me forever to get my turbofuel plant to stabilize with the diluted packaged fuel route...

[opaque wren]

I just finished phase 4 and 1 single building draws 20 GW on peak 😄 #screenshots message

[reef basin]

you make a blueprint that acts exactly like a blender, then spam that

[whole ermine]

ooo thats smart actually ive never done that

i should do that next

[hardy swan]

i just need to wait the motor production to unlock the oil generator

[whole ermine]

blender cool tho....

[magic rune]

eeyup! and the phase 5 buildings clown on the power grid even harder

[stuck dagger]

oof

[opaque wren]

Maybe it's time to set up that nuclear power plant.

[stuck dagger]

Maybe I'll be needing another nuclear power site

[whole ermine]

go all the way

[opaque wren]

I've been riding on oilpower until now.

[whole ermine]

nuclear to plutonium to ficsonium

[hardy swan]

and finished i just unlocked oil generator

[magic rune]

i've never done nuclear in any playthrough yet, but this time i plan to (especially since i have some mods that give more types of spicy rock)

[whole ermine]

its not that hard

unless you go like kibitz and use all uranium in the world

[hardy swan]

it need quickwire😔 i dont have any

[opaque wren]

What's the best location for nuclear power plant ? (assuming you want to go wild)

I plan northen "ocean"

[stuck dagger]

That's where I put mine

[whole ermine]

if you mine some of the small caterium ore chunks, you can research and then scan for it

[stuck dagger]

Over there has nearby caterium and sulphur

[magic rune]

anywhere with access to a metric buttload of water, really. i'm earmarking the swamp for mine

[whole ermine]

shpiders tho...

[stuck dagger]

and yeah, all that water

[hardy swan]

i have the craft i just dont have the line production i will go do this now

[whole ermine]

instead of being 1:1 in the smelter caterium is 3:1

[stuck dagger]

#math-and-meta message @opaque wren this is what I got eventually

Minus supporting infrastructure like bauxite and nitrogen production

[silent pagoda]

took me forever to find SAM, i'm playing blind so was balls deep into phase 3 before i found any

and i did a lot of exploring too

[opaque wren]

Same sites are usually hidden or far away.

Found mine in a hidden cave - but it was difficult to find/reach.

[sterile blade]

Funfact: in scenarios like those (2 items repeating regularly on the belt), you can split the two items in 2 single-items belts using a normal splitter

[opaque wren]

I guess that's on purpose.

[silent pagoda]

yeah i found one ||on top of a mountain near the centre of the map||
the one i'm mining is in a cave

[opaque wren]

Dimensional depo is the best upgrade in the game for me.

[whole ermine]

Conveniently, my aluminum factory is like 100 meters away from a sam node

[magic rune]

ngl i kinda miss the "WIP" version of sam nodes a bit... that weird rainbow-y hue reminded me of planet crafter super alloy. ...the funky purple color is valid though

[sterile blade]

I like the "crystal sound" it makes when stepped on

[short mist]

I like building sound

[magic rune]

the bit in the 1.0 trailer where pioneer dismantled the "Early Access" label still lives rent-free in my head

[short mist]

Ooo

[solid mason]

how do you all start building/decorating a factory? do you start with building exterior or interior with pathways

[hardy swan]

this game is the only place where i dont like to hear cats

[queen slate]

Same and you can hear them from really far away

[hardy swan]

better than hear them when they are already in my face

[reef basin]

first build it functional, then decorate after. With experience you'll be able to build more and more decoration while building the functional part

[queen slate]

True ig

[hardy swan]

but i play hearing music and still can hear them

[queen slate]

I need to do that more

[lapis shadow]

I just saw the nuclear pasta crafting recipe for the first time and it was kinda discouraging haha. Is there many things in the game with a recipe that complex?

[sterile blade]

I still dream of oil barrels coming out of Oil Extractors...

[magic rune]

phase 5 in general be like

[sterile blade]

Just a few. The most annoying ones will likely be the one using Pasta as an ingredient

[reef basin]

pasta has super simple recipe

[sterile blade]

What do you mean?

[reef basin]

given that #rules specifically forbid discussion about piracy, it's a weird question to ask

then how do you have a save if not from pirated game?

[barren tulip]

nuclear pasta is like copper powder and c u b e

[somber narwhal]

my trains keep colliding at an intesection and the only way i know to stop this is by putting block signals on the whole track which i dont have enough computers for

[reef basin]

automate more computers

[somber narwhal]

theres no other way to prevent collision?

[reef basin]

other than the thing added to prevent collisions (signals)? 😄 no

(well, you could completely separate the rails I guess)

[somber narwhal]

bruh

[reef basin]

?

[fluid crow]

only have 1 train

[fallow shard]

Ok, I'm confused. Mk1 minors extract 30 pm on an Impure node right? But on the Satisfactory Wiki page, it says a Limestone node varies- Impure = 15. So If I place a mk1 Miner on an Impure Limestone node, am I getting 30 pm, or 15?

[reef basin]

where does it say 15?

link the page

[fallow shard]

it won't let me?

[reef basin]

then you're probably not using official wiki

wiki links are whitelisted

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[fallow shard]

Says the same thing

[reef basin]

where?

which page?

[fallow shard]

Search nodes, scroll down until you see Solid Resources.

[reef basin]

that's amount of nodes

[fallow shard]

I was starting to think that XD

[fluid crow]

it's 30

[hardy swan]

so i put one oil generator

it dont use crude oil

😔

[fluid crow]

if you mean fuel generator it uses fuel

[barren tulip]

what did you expect

[reef basin]

yeah the oil is too crude for it

[fluid crow]

make heavy oil into fuel

or crude oil

[hardy swan]

yeah i did expected nothing

the game has something like a peaceful mode?

[reef basin]

yes

[cursive crane]

Advanced game settings >creature hostility

[hardy swan]

thanks

[frosty mirage]

I spent 2 hours trying to understand why my 2 coal power plants (3 water 8 gen design) don't work only to realize one of them was trying to run on a 60/m mk1 miner 🤡🤡🤡

Will 2400 MW get me through tier 5?

[barren tulip]

i would go for double that

[reef basin]

if your machines use 2400MW at most, then yes

you can technically win the whole game on a single gen, it just depends on scale you want to have

[frosty mirage]

Yea, was thinking on doubling it. Right now im not yet going for oil infrastructure, I wanna build enough factories to produce all the items up to oil related ones

[fluid crow]

oil=power

[frosty mirage]

Yea, but its complicated for now at least

[quartz yoke]

is it possible to place the water extractor into a blueprint?

[reef basin]

afaik not

[quartz yoke]

bleh

[barren tulip]

no i don't think so

[quartz yoke]

@frosty mirage are you aware you can save power by running machine underclocked? so just building 100 clocked at 1% for massive savings!

[frosty mirage]

Yea, I do have some of them underclocked depending on productions

Thats just a lot of buildings 😭

[quartz yoke]

we skipped over coal completely and just used 6 overclocked biomass burners until Oil.

[barren tulip]

what the hell kinda setup is that 😭

my world has like 5 or 10 gigawatts of coal gens

[quartz yoke]

you can skip oil entirely if you go for Geothermals and an Alien Generator

[barren tulip]

silly

[quartz yoke]

we went Biomass -> geothermal -> Rocket Fuel

[reef basin]

bio -> coal -> diluted fuel -> nuclear 🙂

[barren tulip]

mine was bio to coal to turbofuel to nuclear

[clear mesa]

Reject nuclear embrace biomass

[rugged jasper]

Can I delete the pipeline support, and connect directly to the pipe without the support from another point.
So it looks like one long pipe without any issues. ?
#screenshots message

[clear mesa]

Yeah

[rugged jasper]

Perfect.
Thank you

[clear mesa]

I do it pretty often

No worries

[quartz yoke]

thats my next world, going to be rough! at least I get compacted coal via bio-coal and charcoal.

[clear mesa]

Good luck, honestly I've found the fact that the biomass gens only power when needed, when having a surplus of biomass they actually take a while to empty out

[quartz yoke]

its a nice touch

[clear mesa]

I can't imagine what that'd be like with the power consumption of phase 4 or 5 tho lol

[opaque wren]

Phase 4 is around 30 GW. You could push up to 50GW if you have overclocked colliders and such. From what I've seen, around 100GW is the target of phase 5.

[flint grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/satisfactory/s/yMa0ukzpfl

I'm mad I didn't think of this, ngl

[clear mesa]

3,334 biomass burners...honestly not that bad apart from the fuel required

[opaque wren]

I mean, I don't think you can sustain the fuel.

Even if you fulltime collect biomass and kill creatures.

But it's probably possible to get there with only coal if you really wanted to.

You need like...200 coal or so for 1 GW.

So for 50GW you would need....9-ish pure coal.

So if you take all the coal from rocky desert and surrounding area, you can complete the game with coal power only 🙂

[dense violet]

... non bp rails?

[flint grail]

Rails that stay straight instead of following the terrain for the little bumps

[dense violet]

zoop foundations first the whole way - build train towers on top that hold the rail - connect them up https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1442307635033411724/1442309559321497630/image.png?ex=6972bf73&is=69716df3&hm=36f8b8556623a3de80e01fdb281479cb826072ac02ed2ac66bd49ca58cfd8dd5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

stacked rail is optional

[rugged jasper]

I think I get the hang of how Aluminum factory works now. @opaque wren
Working now on all the other base parts, as I did some mistakes in my first build. 🤭
Like I am making 1440 Aluminum Casings each min, but did not store anything else in the progress. 🤦‍♀️
I do sink all the overflow tho, I am at 1.1 mil points each min in awesome sink.
It's now easy, to just copy and paste everything, and do it right thing this time, to make all the other parts, than just Aluminum Casings.

Btw, when I look at your aluminum factory, I feel like you have spend like 200 + hours on it. 🤭 but looks amazing.!

[opaque wren]

I don't think I've posted my alu factory.

[silent pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaB0cbiotY&t=1425s alternatively
this looks way better imo if you design nice supports after (it also has the benefit of getting a track functional early, to be decorated later

[rugged jasper]

you did last night I think ^^

to guide me how big my factory should be 🙂

[opaque wren]

I gave you some numbers but I don't think I've posted it. Mine is not "pretty" - I haven't added architecture yet.

It's this one: #screenshots message

I still have to add architecture, rearange belts....etc

But I didn't know how big it will be and I wanted to check requirements for phase 5 before that.

It's basically "modules" of 480 bauxite input.

[rugged jasper]

ooh, it is not that picture I am talking about tho ^^

[opaque wren]

Then it was not mine.

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message this one ^^

I think you were talking about some overflow or something if I remember correctly

[opaque wren]

Ah, that's oil "factory" though.

That's the excess oil from plastic and rubber.

[rugged jasper]

I do build my aluminum factory on top of my oil factory ^^

but it is very much needed for aluminum, at least in my build it is, but I just placed everything on top of it 🙂

[opaque wren]

That works if you have bauxite and oil nearby. Usually bauxite is in a center of the map and I prefer to make my oil setup on ocean to avoid pipe height hassle.

Working on particle colliders now. I see I need quite a bit of coal for crystals so I am hunting for a good spot.

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message
I have made it this far now, tho the new build is far from done, but I have a vison of how it should look like.
Hopefully I can make it fully working today.

[rugged jasper]

I do have 1200 bauxite running to this factory 🥲
1200 goal too, but I may need copper really soon.

#screenshots message

[opaque wren]

I used 3 "modules" of 480 and it seems enough for phase 4. I need to up a little bit for phase 5 but not huge amounts.

[rugged jasper]

this is how I get all materials to my oil/alu factory 😄

[rugged jasper]

you can do it for sure 🙌

[opaque wren]

I also use belts in most cases.

[rugged jasper]

how do you place water extractors on foundations ?

[opaque wren]

You can't place them on foundations. You can only place them and add foundations after.

But you will get clipping warning. So it's up to you.

[rugged jasper]

ahh like that 🙂 gotcha

[opaque wren]

I will probably add glass floor there.

[ruby jay]

Placing foudations underwater dont work anymore?

[rugged jasper]

I think it will look better indeed

[opaque wren]

I will do some factory reorg after MK6 unlock.

Since I want to merge some belts and such.

You can still place foundation under water but it doesn't "add" much.

[ruby jay]

Looks like underwater foundations should still work, you can get extractor to snap on them. Also can do pipe crosses on foundations, and snap extractors to them

[opaque wren]

Since the water extractors are floating.

[dense violet]

it is way harder to get consistency and building anything under it . fine if you want floading rails that aren't super lined up

also terrible for planning in advance

[silent pagoda]

for building underyou can place foundations on the beam heads and work from there, also you can make rails perfectly aligned with the method

but if it isnt wat ur looking for it isnt what ur looking for

[hollow brook]

I feel like that's unbelievably easy to screw up. Take one ore on accident and now you got the copper going where the iron is supposed to go, and vice versa!

Plus, AI Limiters are really cheap, I have the components automated.

[opaque wren]

Is there any way you can check your altitude in game?

[ruby jay]

through console I think

ShowDebug NONE

[opaque wren]

I haven't used the console since I didn't know if that disabled anything (achievements maybe?)

[rugged jasper]

Do we have alternative recipe for Alclad Aluminum Sheet ? 🙂

[reef basin]

codex should show you number of recipes for given thing 🙂

[opaque wren]

According to codex, there isn't any.

[rugged jasper]

I forgot all about that, thanks 🙌

I will make it work..
time to find a copper node near my factory

[opaque wren]

You could also consider a remote location for copper and use train. You need a lot of copper and of phase 4.

[rugged jasper]

I think it will set me way back, as I have no idea how the trains work, and tbh, I just want to make this alu factory work asap so I progress further in my tiers ^^

[opaque wren]

That's fair. Although it would not be bad to learn trains. How do you transport resources across the map?

[rugged jasper]

massive towers and line them up perfectly, so belts runs in the sky

[opaque wren]

Basic trains is not difficult. You don't need many trains overall. I use 4 trains.

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message like this 🥲

[rugged jasper]

maybe I will try it out sometime later

[opaque wren]

That works it just might take you extra time to build them / adjust them.

If I want to ship something to a new location I just route it to a freight and it's done.

I use belts for anything ~ 1km or less - pretty much.

Longer than that I tend to use trains.

[rugged jasper]

I am just not confident enough to make it right now, as in other games like eden crafters, I messed everything up with the trains and I spend days to make it.
since then I have never bothered to make them, as I find other ways to play safe 🤭

I felt like it was total waste of my time 😄
but I may give it a try sometime when I feel "safe" to screw up something to make it work. 😁

[opaque wren]

For "simple" infrastructure, it's quite easy. It's only when you reach large number of trains when things tend to be a bit more complicated.

I've seen posts on reddit with 100+ trains. I imagine the rail systems requires some....consideration.

But for basic movement of resources between 5 factories and such, that's pretty straight forward.

Plus they are quite fast - you can use them to travel across the map.

I just hop in a train when I need to go somewhere.

Or make my own train and once I reach destination, I remove it.

[rugged jasper]

oooh ! you can sit in the trains ?

[green fiber]

Yes thats how you drive them

And if you enable autopilot it drives for you

[rugged jasper]

well maybe now I will build some, just to transport myself across the map, as I am using hypertubes atm to make me fly across the map 😄

but my method is not very safe with that said above as I have to hit the hypertubes at the other end perfectly to slow me down 😄 if not, I just die instantly

[inner nymph]

What is the best way to find oil

[ruby jay]

Look under harley motorcycles

(fr scanner of course)

[opaque wren]

You follow the american soldiers 🙂

[dense violet]

if you've unlocked the tech for it can't you scan it?

[inner nymph]

Wait I have no oil pump😭

[opaque wren]

Jokes aside, you can scan for it or if you want to have a bettter overview you can check the map online and see all spots.

[dense violet]

if you havent unlocked oil extractors you can't do much with the nodes

[inner nymph]

Can you get a recipe from the hard drives that you can't normally craft

[dense violet]

I believe you can unlock alts for items you have unlocked that need higher tech levels? I think

don't quote me on that though

[wispy osprey]

You can with very specific recipes, like quick wiring. It shows the machine as "[empty]" because you don't have manufacturing yet

I unlocked alt quick wiring before I had a manufacturer

But things like turbo blend fuel, no

[opaque wren]

From my experience, you can only get alternate from materials you have the technology unlocked.

[wispy osprey]

If you could use blenders in phase 3 turbofuel would actually be decent

Most people skip turbo

Shoutouts to people that used coal plants until RF

[zenith pond]

is the fixmas gone ? mann i was about to complete the tree

[dense violet]

push your computer date back to xmas

[wispy osprey]

I collected a lot of presents before the event ended

[reef basin]

each recipe has specific requirements for it to be able to appear in MAM

there are some that can be unlocked earlier than used

but it depends on specific recipe cases

[swift turret]

First thing I do is speed run the gas mask

Absolutely required for early game

[rugged jasper]

does that work ? 😱

I really want to build some more decor from the event to my new buildings/factories.
I will roll back the time on my PC later for sure 😄
thanks for info btw!

but will it be patched out in next update or can we do this all till next xmas ? 🙂

[reef basin]

can't really be patched out tbh

and it has been the case for last 3-4 ficsmas events, so I doubt they will be doing any steps around that anyway

[rugged jasper]

Awesome.!

[opaque wren]

Is the turbo ammo the best one?

I am using it and it seems ok-ish but not amazing.

I was execting a bigger jump from the basic one.

Even though the damage is higher the firerate seems lower unless you go into "machine-gun" mode but that has a big spread.

[reef basin]

as with everything else, each ammo has it's advantages and you should pick one that you like

[barren tulip]

imo normal is the best but that's just me personally

[coral marsh]

I find that the enemies dont have enough HP to actually, properly, utilize the turbo ammo, most die within 15-20 shots and its only the large radiation hogs that can actually withstand more than 40 or 50 shots. So I dont see the turbo ammo as useful at all honestly.

So the standard ammo is the best option IMO but I use a lot more Nobelisks anyway

[opaque wren]

The only redeeming feature is the 75 vs 15 ammo before reload.

But given that turbo is supposed to be an upgrade, it feels a bit underwhelming.

Anyways, I should probably setup a proper nobelisk instead - as you pointed out.

[bleak scaffold]

can you scan water

[eager palm]

You can scan the geysers later on, yeah

[reef basin]

and fracking water nodes, probably?

[swift turret]

Yeah you can scan water. Its called the map

[rustic rune]

question - can I just put in a single stack of Plutonium Fuel Rods into a drone and let it fly? No refueling, just that one stack. Saw in a few places that it would last for hundreds of hours. How about radiation? Would it irradiate anything if it's not held as a cargo, and just as fuel?

[swift turret]

Everyone is just trying to make the most expensive drone huh

[reef basin]

it radiates normally

[rustic rune]

so irradiates everything along the way?

[reef basin]

radiation doesn't really stay in any way

depending on distance between you and drone, you may take damage/filter durability

[rustic rune]

so it's a certain radius around it that would cause some radiation damage?

[reef basin]

kinda, not exactly that, but you can imagine it as such

[dense violet]

and the more radioactive stuff the wider the spread

[rustic rune]

drones fly with the full stack all the time, or pick one rod, and leave the rest at the home port? is that then irradiating stuff around?

[reef basin]

if you only put one rod into the fuel slot, it'll get instantly "used", but the drone will be internally burning that fuel rod until it runs out

so it would fly without radiation items and not radiate anything

[rustic rune]

I was thinking about putting a whole stack of 50 in, and forget about it

[reef basin]

honestly I'd just automate some fuel/batteries for them

[bleak scaffold]

i need to find the nearest water source from the triple normal iron node in grasslands

[eager palm]

Definitely not south.

[reef basin]

if only we had a map

[eager palm]

North might be most accessible.

[bleak scaffold]

north?

oh yeah north has a huge source

problem is its so far

[reef basin]

pick different nodes then

[eager palm]

Yeah, grassy fields is pretty dry, I’m afraid

[rustic rune]

I have some rocket fuel automated, with ionized there too. I would want to use those powershards elsewhere so I was thinking about fuel rods. Also no need to have a refueling network of drones

[reef basin]

can have refuelling train 😛

[rustic rune]

There's a very nice place with 3 pure iron nodes, 1 pure copper and 2 pure limestone just a little bit to the west from grassy fields. It's next to the ocean, so plenty of water.

[rustic rune]

or I can put in fuel and forget about it 😛 that's why Im thinking how plausible the plutonium rods are

[dense violet]

pure nodes, before the final tier, aren't really any better than normal. If you OC the miners they go way over your belt limits

[reef basin]

yeah, pure nodes are basically useful with mk6 belts

[rustic rune]

yeah, I know. But it's a good place for that initial factory for a bit if he wants to use pure recipes with water

[dense violet]

any place with normal nodes will do that too since you're basically getting the same output 🙂

[rustic rune]

true, but that's the closest water from that starting position. Other is slightly to the north, with those 4 coal nodes but that's good for a coal power plant. Then a tiny lake to the east with some normal nodes too

[rare thunder]

anyone know why i cant stream the game on discord?

[heady cobalt]

For fueling drones I have a main factory with a number of smaller factories around the map. I ship batteries to the main factory and use that to supply all the drones going from the smaller factories to the main factory. Very rare I need smaller factory to another smaller factory but in that case I will have to sort something else out.

[vapid raven]

dude, im NEW to the game. and im trying to get some concrete running. there are two impure nodes a bit near each other. I used a splitter to split the input into three constructors for one of the nodes, and then joined the other one into this system's belts... is it better to set up two different systems and add then merge the output into the same bin?

[reef basin]

better than what?

[limpid orchid]

Am i the only one that hates using Power Shards between Mashine so not as an Output or Input in an Mschine?

[vapid raven]

how do i utilise two limestone nodes, for the most efficient early game concrete factory? do i merge them into the same belt or do i make two factories

[reef basin]

I mean... "do math" is a good answer I guess 🙂

[vapid raven]

its not

[reef basin]

check how much miner makes, how much constructor eats, calculate how many constructors you need

[limpid orchid]

Yeah not on Miner or for Example an manufacturer. Everything between that. Why using Power Shards there?

[surreal hatch]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[reef basin]

save space or make it output the amount you want for easier logistics (e.g. to match rates between machines)

[rare thunder]

sometimes i wanna build 8 machines instead of 9

[limpid orchid]

Why saving Space when this game is 3d and a LOT of space in the air.

[eager palm]

I always merge concrete outputs to the same bin, if that helps

[opaque wren]

I do use power shards as well sometimes if I try to fit something.

[vapid raven]

alright i'll try that, ty!

[limpid orchid]

Oh, i would rebuild everything and not squeeze something in.

[eager palm]

Yeah, especially in blueprints. Keeps me symmetrical sometimes

[opaque wren]

Well that's not feasible if you have like a 6 floor factory.

So for pure "allignment" purposes.

slugs are in abundance so it's not really an issue.

[eager palm]

And then shards are manufactured in the end game, so they are literally unlimited eventually.

Something like 1300 shards from slugs on map though

[opaque wren]

Yeah, I was saving slugs for "I might need it at some point" and then ended up with like 200 without usage.

[eager palm]

You can overclock every node on the map and have a lot of leftovers

Sloops are another story, but sometimes they are worth, like at the end of a complicated chain. Supercomputers, for example.

[native frost]

Im trying to be better at using them cuz i aint use them at all then complain about how many generators i jave placed

[tall lantern]

closer to 5000, if you sloop

[ornate saffron]

I almost always overclock generators

[native frost]

Yeah that's my plan this time around

Im gonna make like single click turbo fuel generators

[ornate saffron]

You can fit 4 fuel gens on a mk2 BP machine. Overclock them there and you don't need to think about it while placing

[native frost]

Yeah true and if u wanna be fancy you could place a buffer

[ornate saffron]

Naw, I find buffers cause more issues then they solve

[tall lantern]

buffers and valves, the two traps of piping

[native frost]

Yeah they probably are i liked using them when i built my first turbo fuel plant but thats beacause i was slow

[native frost]

Values i like alot

[odd ibex]

How can I play a world from a different steam account on the one I wanna play on

I mean my world

[native frost]

Local app data and transfer the files mabey? (I dont fully know)

[odd ibex]

I just wanna transfer my world to my other acc

ok lemme see

ok doesnt work

wAIT

[reef basin]

there was a whole second part of my message that is way more important

[odd ibex]

ok so it did work my player data just isnt saved

[reef basin]

rebuilding is waste of time

[reef basin]

they basically break anything they can, and if they "work" for you, that's either not gonna last, or they are doing nothing relevant to your setup (apart from possibly hiding issues that will be apparent later)

there's very few places where valves would actually do something useful, and practically all of them are weird scenarios that have better solutions

[odd ibex]

can I like fix it somehow or no?

[tall lantern]

no, player identity is tied to the steam/epic login used

if you want that body's stuff back, kill it

but if you're using different accounts to play, then each will have its own body

[odd ibex]

ok hmm

I think I'll just make a new world cause thats prob better

imma look for a group

[unkempt blade]

Unless you just really want to make a new world there's no reason it's "better". You just have to kill the pioneer associated with the other account if you want to reclaim your inventory

[odd ibex]

true but the problem is I disabled achievements and I wanna regrind them

[unkempt blade]

when you log in to the new account and load that world if you have cloud save enabled it'll save to the second account

[odd ibex]

true

[odd ibex]

btw you wanna join me on the new world?

[unkempt blade]

no thanks, already have a multiplayer save with other people

[odd ibex]

oh its alright

[unkempt blade]

I'll probably get myself fired if I play any more satis than I already do 🤣

[odd ibex]

yeah 😂

good that im still in school

is there any calculator that calculates me how much copper I need for example?

for like this and this factory

or how many constructor I need to place

[unkempt blade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/ is good at that

[odd ibex]

ok ty

[rugged jasper]

I hope it works ❤️
#screenshots message
👆 does not work.. I forgot copper 🤭 🥲

[ornate saffron]

@odd ibex if you are switching back and forth between steam accounts mayhaps it would be better to run the dedicated server software that is download able on steam.

Mind you I havent done it for this game but that was the best solution for others

[odd ibex]

oh ok thank you

[tall lantern]

at least that'll save you having to copy the save around, though won't change the whole "log in with different bodies" thing

[unkempt blade]

it's beautiful but it needs matching pipes!

[frosty mirage]

Lets get to work #screenshots

[barren tulip]

certified in an out 3 hour adventure

[frosty mirage]

Nah, power is set up, I got 1600 free MW

[frosty mirage]

Hopefully only 3 hours 🤞

[ornate saffron]

I deleted that response.

When I clicked the screenshot link the first time it took me to a power graph

When I clicked a second time I got your real post

[frosty mirage]

Im also trying to build it modular and scaleable so yea

[umbral rover]

Anyone build a nuclear setup recently?

[rugged jasper]

what do you mean with matching pipes ? 🥲

works like a charm tbh ^^

[unkempt blade]

you have this lovely non-default red color template with default orange pipes 😄

[rugged jasper]

oh true ^^

[leaden matrix]

OH MY GOD
You reminded me I can recolor my pipes, this will make logistics 100x easier😭

[umbral rover]

I always do that

[rugged jasper]

I have seen some players who can light up their pipes in the pumping sections, so I thought I should wait to paint those ^^

[leaden matrix]

I never considered it ToT

[unkempt blade]

yeah I like to do the color of the liquid they're transporting when I do more complicated factories

[rugged jasper]

🥹

mine is super small so it is fine ^^

[umbral rover]

Its really nice especially for fuel production lines

[rugged jasper]

but how do some players make the middle part of the pipe glow ?

the pumping thing, or what it is 🤭

[umbral rover]

Im honestly not sure about that one

I just use signs when i want something to light up lmao

[rugged jasper]

[umbral rover]

What?

[ornate saffron]

Metal beam clipping through the pipe then attaching signs to it.

Most things can be done with a metal beam lol

[next dove]

I have a 'main belt' system, and on a belt 'in the air' i have a splitter, and want to connect a conveyor lift, but i'm not getting it connecten to the splitter directly, i always need to keep some distance and put a small belt between it. Is there a way to attach the conveyor lift to the splitter?
https://i.imgur.com/0bJliYO.png

[rugged jasper]

yes

[next dove]

i', so.... n00b.... Almost everytime i'm asking a question here, and try something again on my own, i have the solution 😄

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure I've seen that one. Do you have a screenshot you could link?

[rugged jasper]

I have done it all over my 1st factory, do needed to be all reworded as some stopped to work, also some holes to the upper floors, but replacing all belts made it work for me.

you must place the conveyor lift first, and then place the splitter right into it. like that you have 3 outputs.

[white dawn]

If I had a nickel for every time I solved my own problem while in the middle of writing up a problem statement for an internet support forum, I'd probably have a few bucks at least. :D

Sometimes the process of writing out your problem ends up suggesting solutions to your brain

[next dove]

Rubber ducking 😄

[opaque wren]

How can I become a multimillionaire?

Doesn't seem to work 🙂

[unkempt blade]

we're not vison boarding here we're rubber ducking

[next dove]

I've just bought the 'coffee cup', I'm so happy that i've got it 😄

[ornate saffron]

Its the add way. When you lay out the scenario in plan speak for someone else to understand, you see the solution

[bitter dirge]

oops wrong channel

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message @next dove you mean like this ?

[next dove]

Yeah, that cup !!!! Me happy. And off course the conveyor lift attached to the bus

[ornate saffron]

There is a coffee dispenser in the hub.

[rugged jasper]

mine does automatically snap to it though.
maybe my English is too bad to understand what you actually meant in the first place. @next dove ^^ but this is my solution. 🤭

[next dove]

It does snap, but i did not know that you could snap it first (the hollogram shows the rest above the splitter), but after LMB, you can 'get it down'. I was starting at the ground (if you know what i mean).

[rugged jasper]

I think I do not understand anymore hehe 🙌

[next dove]

like this: https://i.imgur.com/HwXU04r.png

[rugged jasper]

like this ? #screenshots message 💀

[vale quail]

anyone know when dev streams are coming back ?

[rugged jasper]

oh yes, that works perfectly fine in my game tho

[next dove]

yeah, but i thought it was not possbile to get the conveyor to go down to the ground. But hey, my problem is solved even we do maybe understand eachother 😄

[rugged jasper]

I was about to make something crazy to show all possible ways I know of 🤭

[nimble oak]

i put a couple pics in #screenshots . 1st one is a screenshot, 2nd is with the ingame picture mode. is there a setting for image quality on the picture mode? it looks lower res

[rugged jasper]

idk if it is correct what I am saying but I feel like the res is getting lower the further you get into the game, as everything is just getting so massively build.

• Like now my super tall supply tower at my main base, I can see the pixels cutting edges in the middle and top 🥹 it was not like that in early game tho

[nimble oak]

its weird because ts fine when i look at it

just picture mode is unhappy

[rugged jasper]

try Win Shift S 🙂
that should take the actual picture of your screen.
Here on Discord you have to watch it for a few seconds to be more clear tho. 2-3 sec.

[ornate saffron]

Discord does like to compress.

Windows snipping is great but is broken on my laptop.

I push the shortcut and the screen flashes and doesnt do anything lol. The program opens then immediately closes. I prefer snipping

I blame windows lol.

Microslop is real these days

[rugged jasper]

mine never show up, but I do have 8000 + screenshots in my folder 🤭 from the games I have played.

[ornate saffron]

Lol I hear ya. I had to move my ffxiv screenshots to my network storage.

[rugged jasper]

I do have 2TB on each drive, so I am fine where it is located tho ^^
Just annoying it only show up 1 out of 10 times. 😄
and sometimes it does it all the time, when I don't want it to do it. lol 😄

[stray field]

What's the website called where u can plan factories and stuff?

[rugged jasper]

you can download it from steam 🙂

[stray field]

What's it called tho?

I don't play on steam

[rugged jasper]

Satisfactory Modeler

[stray field]

Thanks

[queen slate]

Satisfactory tools is the website modeler is steam

[nimble oak]

snipping loos fine

[stray field]

OK thank u

[nimble oak]

its only the in game pic

[queen slate]

Np gl with your factory:D

[rugged jasper]

is there a better one than Satisfactory Modeler ? 😮

[queen slate]

I use satisfactory tools it’s less work and I’m lazy

[ornate saffron]

Links under pins in #math-and-meta for some useful website

[white dawn]

Keep in mind that sftools and modeller are very different apps with different purposes

[queen slate]

2tbs I envy you ;D

[ornate saffron]

Depends on needs. I just need to confirm my math so tools is my go to.

[nimble oak]

theres a few different ones, theyre better at different things

[white dawn]

sftools is a solver/calculator -- you plug in what you want, what recipes you have, and what the inputs are, and it suggests a full "logical" factory plan to you. Implementation details are left as an exercise for the reader

modeller is a, well, modeller/planner. You're going through and plonking down things yourself, though the app helps out by doing a lot of the math for you

Will help to know what you actually want out of a "planning" tool

[rugged jasper]

I just go with the flow tho, and compress my builds with the maximum output each one can give 🥹

[ornate saffron]

Much parts. Small package

[rugged jasper]

true ^^

I try my best atm to make a really good factory in a small space

[queen slate]

I like stacking my layers on top of each other

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message Like this.
No clipping, or banned 🤭

[ornate saffron]

I do much clipping. Not with belts but with decorations. Melding foundations into a refinery array blueprint. So every refinery setup looks diffrent.

[queen slate]

I admit I used to be a clipper until like 10 hours in

When I discover straight conveyors I stopped clipping

[rugged jasper]

Clipping is not okay in a build.. I thought we were friends. 🥹 🤭

haha 😄

[ornate saffron]

I like the straight mode. Manually place conveyor poles to get 90° bends was a pain

[queen slate]

Fr

[ornate saffron]

We are. Im just the crazy uncle that is just built diffrent

[queen slate]

I’m the guy who isn’t related but shows up at all the family gatherings

[rugged jasper]

but most loved 😊

it is normally like that ^^

[queen slate]

Cherished humorous beloved take your pick ;D

[ornate saffron]

Blood is thicker then water but its the bonds we choose that bind us

[bitter dirge]

hey guys ive heard people talk about blueprints but is that a mod or is that something you can unlock in the game?

[ornate saffron]

There is a machine in the game called the blueprinter. You can build things on it and save them. The stamp then into the world

[white dawn]

Something you unlock in the game, via HUB milestones

[bitter dirge]

oo

tysm\

[white dawn]

(There are more "powerful" (or at least bigger) versions available via mods, and other kinds of blueprints supported by third-party map editors and such. But there is an in-game blueprinter available in three sizes (the last one unlocks in Tier 9))

[rugged jasper]

So when do you show up for the feast with too many snaps

[queen slate]

Do you mean snacks? If yes then whenever the feast is on

[ornate saffron]

I think of it as making personal assets to make your playthrough easier.

[ornate saffron]

Pork shoulder is on sale for $1.29/lb.... thinking of doing a slow cooker roast

[queen slate]

It may seem like a pain to build them but once you do you can use them forever and you will prob use them often

[queen slate]

Can’t go wrong with a slow cooked roast pork

[bitter dirge]

oo yeah they will sop useful cuz i can expeirement on smaller scale designs and then build them faster without messing up on sizes and stuff i think?

[rugged jasper]

Danish lunches, especially at holidays such as Christmas and Easter, where it is served with fatty dishes such as herring, salmon and roast pork, as the alcohol cleanses the taste buds of fat. Snaps is enjoyed in small glasses, but too many may make you kuk kuk 🤭

[queen slate]

Very on topic for satisfactory channel lmao

[queen slate]

Oh I love snaps then

[queen slate]

Give me a pint glass and I will chug them ;D

[ornate saffron]

YOU GOT IT! This is especially great for doing angled decorations that you want to repeat

[ornate saffron]

mmmm i like a good pallet cleanser

[bitter dirge]

Oo

[bitter dirge]

I suck so bad at building pretty things everything becomes blocks though 😭

[rugged jasper]

You know we share borders with Canada here in Denmark ? 😄
What do you think the military people was doing on the island.. drinking together, and the one who won had the right to set their flag for that year. 😄

And it was with Snaps ^^ the Danish one and Ca came up with their best ❤️ both amazing tbh ^^

[queen slate]

Hans island?

[rugged jasper]

Yup, ^^

[queen slate]

Cool guess I never rly thought about it

[ornate saffron]

ah yes. the whiskey war

[leaden matrix]

I was wondering, whats the point of the explorer?

By the time you get it you should have a jetpack + fuel or even turbo fuel

Is that not significantly better or am I missing something 😭

[frosty mirage]

Damn how this game forces me to next milestone 😭😭 Im creating 466 iron ingots per minute so now I need to get 200 rubber for mk4 belts

[ornate saffron]

sorry rubber for belts?

Incased Rubber beams recipe or something?

[unborn moss]

Rubber is needed for the milestone.

[ornate saffron]

ah

i was thinking i dont remember a recipe with rubber

[opaque wren]

Jetpack is slow in a straight line. Jetpack is only good for climbing. If you have a long foundation connecting 2 factories you can use the explorer - it's faster than anything except train (even that is questionable)

[frosty mirage]

Yea, needed for milestone. Wanted to avoid getting into oil before I finish some factories but oh well here we go

[leaden matrix]

Slide hop + jetpack

[opaque wren]

Even Hover is faster than jetpack in a straight line.

[ornate saffron]

Oil is a good game lesson and feature. Teaches you to deal with byproducts and builds on fluid logistics you learn from coal power

[rugged jasper]

Calling mayday

[ornate saffron]

❓

[unborn moss]

Run on a belt then use the jetpack.

[rugged jasper]

Stupid monsters now spawn & attack me on my platform 🥲

[sterile blade]

Run on a hypertube, then use the jetpack.

[opaque wren]

You can't really explore with that though.

[ornate saffron]

I place power towers and zipline around. This helps explore and extend the reach of my power grid.

[sterile blade]

Belts are very cheap to make, even assuming one isn't dismantling the one they leave behind

[opaque wren]

I also explore with hover (I find the jetpack pretty useless overall)

It's hard to beat perma-flying when exploring.

I don't even fight mobs, I can just pick stuff from above (mercer sphere, slugs...etc)

[rugged jasper]

hm.. ❤️ agree to disagree ^^

[sterile blade]

Does dropping nukes from orbit count as "fighting"...?

[ornate saffron]

Many ways to play, whatever you vibe with ^-^

[opaque wren]

True.

[rugged jasper]

you may be in flight mode if afar, as you have to be really close to gather slogs and other in normal mode 🙂

[opaque wren]

I almost never land when I explore.

[rugged jasper]

the range is like 100x longer in flight mode.

fly mode* ^^

[leaden matrix]

Slode hopping + jetpack is undeniably goated though :>

[sterile blade]

The floor is for hoverless peasants lava

[opaque wren]

The only time when I consider landing is - ironically - when I am on a high cliff and there are high level hogs.

They are not very smart and they charge you. I can just lift and they fall off the cliff.

(faster than shooting them)

[rugged jasper]

same I founnd a perfect spot for it with 6 roaming together

all running off the hill 😄

[ornate saffron]

I like using the boom box to attack creatures near the edge

Gotta hit the bass while playing the worst of goat simulator

[cunning glade]

Do I sleep before work or finish my power plant

Choices the issue is I don't think I finish it in time

[white dawn]

Mostly just fun, tbh. It's true that you have plenty of other pioneer transit options by that point, but I always enjoy zipping around in it

[somber smelt]

should i put a buffer here cuz i cant make an around pipe here #screenshots ?

to prevent goofy pipe mechanics

[leaden matrix]

Power plant

Not even close
Factorys gotta expand:>

[opaque wren]

You can finish it if you get a sick day. Gotta' set your priorities straight.

You can work until your 70s'. But your factory won't survive long without power.

[frosty mirage]

Is heavy oil residue fluid?

Does it come out a pipe specifically?

[somber smelt]

yes

its a fluid

it looks sick in buildings

[fickle locust]

The packaged gas ratio is 4:1 right? So it's 4x more efficient to package than to not

[terse kindle]

How does someone like kibitz manage to run a world running at such a high scale while other people seem to struggle at 20fps or lower with similar sized builds/worlds. Is it strictly a hardware issue, or are there other methods to ensure your world remains stable?

[frosty mirage]

Same for fuel?

[somber smelt]

yup

[frosty mirage]

Basically there is no easy way for me to get some damn rubber?

[somber smelt]

its not difficult trust me

[frosty mirage]

I need a whole infrastructure

[somber smelt]

once you start buildin it

[frosty mirage]

I just want 200 rubber 😭

[somber smelt]

when i started i just did a belt highway

[reef dock]

guys im scared it says one of my power grids blew a fuse but my entire factory is running on one grid thats run by coal... im out exploring and im scared to go back

[abstract heron]

Go back and deal with the problem

[reef dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sadness-sad-hello-emotional-gif-24690800

[abstract heron]

But first of all swear

[reef dock]

embedded fail

[abstract heron]

And then trouble shoot the problem @reef dock

[fickle locust]

It looks like his computer built in 2023 is a 4090 with 64 gigs of ram and a 7950x processor, all of which were definite top of the line at that time. Anecdotally as someone with similar specs I've literally never experienced lagging/stuttering/low FPS on this machine, whereas on my older one I had a fair amount of problems

[frosty mirage]

Whats the easiest way to get me some rubber?

[abstract heron]

That’s how I do it I swear first

[reef dock]

ive been swearing 😭

[abstract heron]

And now see what’s the problem

[reef dock]

fuck alr

[abstract heron]

When back at base and fix it

[somber smelt]

@frosty mirage look at what colours you will use #screenshots

[abstract heron]

64gigs I have 32gigs in mine

[somber smelt]

i mean the easiest recipe is just the stock one i guess

[reef dock]

i was out setting up another coal generator factory i think my power grid got jealous

[frosty mirage]

Daaamn looks sick

[somber smelt]

rubber/plastic

[somber smelt]

im buildin a turbofuel powerplant rn

and the colours are lookin great

[frosty mirage]

So basically crude oil -> rubber+heavy oil-> petroleum coke? I assume i do have to get the heavy oil out of the refinery in order to be able to get the rubber?

[fickle locust]

Most people have and only need 32 (that's what I have as well). But 64 is cool

[abstract heron]

My main world atm my over 4khr world

[somber smelt]

and you can turn coke into coal power

[abstract heron]

At start does 17@gb or more

[somber smelt]

thats what i did at the beginin

i mean i still have it

[dense heron]

Is there ever a reason to use (or automate) rebar ammo if you’ve unlocked and automated rifle ammo?

[frosty mirage]

Rn i just want the rubber but not sure if i can get it without also doing smth with the heavy oil

[reef dock]

ho ly shiiiiiit

it was a single biofuel generator i set up on some sam ore

that scared the shit out of me

[somber smelt]

if you dont do anythin with it the machine wont work

it cant have sitting byproduct

just turn it into coke and then coal gens

[opaque wren]

Early just package fuel and sink it. Or use petroleum coke from heavy residue and sink it.

[leaden matrix]

Turn it into coal and sink it :P
Or if you want to be more efficient turn it into power

[unborn moss]

You can manually trash the oil to keep it going and get the rubbers you need.

[somber smelt]

.... i guess bro

i cant imagine anyone runnin to flush the pipe

[opaque wren]

You probably don't want to camp on the oil refinery area just to flush the pipes.

It's best to sink the byproduct and put the plastic / rubber on a train.

[somber smelt]

its running

[opaque wren]

Once you have the research you can go heavy residue -> fuel -> turbofuel -> rocket fuel

[somber smelt]

thats crazy i gotta build 117 fuel power gens

to utilize that turbofual

[opaque wren]

#screenshots message

[somber smelt]

is that the thing i gotta build now

[opaque wren]

If you need 117 for turbofuel, you will need ....a lot more for rocketfuel

[somber smelt]

yea i need to unlock that

[opaque wren]

I mean you don't need to rush it

you can simply replace the fuel once you need more power

[somber smelt]

yea

[opaque wren]

I did the same - I used normal fuel; once I switched to turbo I added more gens; when I switched to rocket, more gens

[somber smelt]

even after runnin all this i still got power

without generatin extra

[opaque wren]

You either need to go rocketfuel route or early nuclear.

Depends where you are in the game.

[somber smelt]

i just need to unlock tha supa cubes

whatever they are called

[opaque wren]

what's your next phase? 4?

[somber smelt]

and automise every item like turbomotors

cuz i kinda spammed a couple manufactures in my base

[opaque wren]

So by the end of phase 4 (e.g. turbomotors) I had between 30-50GW running.

The nuclear pasta is 1 GW for 0.5 / min

[somber smelt]

holy shii

[ornate saffron]

I tend to have 250gw plus once I get blenders.

[somber smelt]

well i produce 8 MW

once i plug em 117 fuel gens

i will be chillin

[opaque wren]

I am not sure how you are on phase 4 with 8 MW. Maybe 8 GW?

[ornate saffron]

Gw you mean? Your hub makes 40mw I believe

[somber smelt]

in the power pole it says MW

even tho it kinda doesnt make sense

[opaque wren]

well, yes, but it's probably 8000 MW

[ornate saffron]

1000mw = 1gw

[opaque wren]

For some reasons the satisfactory devs didn't make the conversion

[somber smelt]

well 8gw then but it spikes like hell

[opaque wren]

Check your maximum.

[somber smelt]

i build 38k GWh storage only to not even use it

for this build i fully expected it to go down

but the batteries are still chargin

max cons are 14GW

but most of the stuff is off cuz crates are full

oh bdw @opaque wren wanna see my belt nightmare at the base hehe

@ornate saffron you saw it before

[ornate saffron]

One man's dream can be another nightmare.

As long as you vibe I agree

[somber smelt]

yea it got bigger

#screenshots holy thats tall

[opaque wren]

Do I need ficsite ingots for any building? Or only ficsite trigon is used?

I made it remotely and I am trying to figure out if it's worth putting ingots on train

[paper star]

only triangles

[zenith pecan]

Power stores eh 🙂

[queen slate]

Wow gj that’s impressive

[zenith pecan]

I do wonder if I should build an even more nuts version of my old power store.

[opaque wren]

Did you take a tutorial from Josh?

[paper star]

I check my power grid infrequently enough that no amount of power storage will prevent a shutdown

[zenith pecan]

I don't need it, it would just be a vanity/insanity project, I have more than 1.1Tw on my grid.

[somber smelt]

hah only vertical

[zenith pecan]

I haven't even built nuclear yet, that's another on the cards project.

[somber smelt]

its tough to build that way

but belt stackin is clearly my way

[zenith pecan]

Vertical building?

[opaque wren]

How did you get 1TW+ without nuclear? How many fuelgens do you have?

[zenith pecan]

A lot, here's the power station #satisfactory-experimental message

[somber smelt]

...holy

[zenith pecan]

The towers are each more than half a kilometre up.

[paper star]

You better be overclocking every building to make use of that lol

[opaque wren]

Aren't those nuclear power plants?

[zenith pecan]

The small building to the right is a foundry producing 4800 steel ingots, so it kinda shows the scale of the power generation.

[somber smelt]

ye

[fickle locust]

Lololol rocket fuel is so nuts

[opaque wren]

to get 1 TW with fuelgens you need... 4000 generators

[paper star]

Not too shabby

[opaque wren]

Do you have mods for blueprints

?

[zenith pecan]

No mods, I do not play with any mods, updates can break them and I don't take kindly to things screwing up like that.

[opaque wren]

I don't think I would have the patience to place 4000 generators.

The blueprint can hold...what...4?

[somber smelt]

how tall is 1 stackable pipeline support?

[zenith pecan]

My really old power station had 888 for turbofuel 🤣 , I am known for building on a slightly large scale.

[somber smelt]

i need to build 3 and is it enough from head lift from tha machine

[zenith pecan]

Rocket fuel has a huge advantage though, it's a gas, no head lift considerations.

I have other examples of building nuts, moving all of the worlds SAM and Bauxite to their processing plants.

[unkempt blade]

using the best vehicle in the game?!?

[paper star]

I too use tractors to transfer all my bauxite

[fickle locust]

It's 1600 if fully overclocked

[wary falcon]

guys whats the best location to start regarding late late game, considering every time i play this game i find the area i made a base was too far from some place, not flat enough etc etc

[opaque wren]

Depends on how you prefer your late game. If you want a megabase, desert is probably the best.

[white dawn]

I always aggressively expand out, and build basically all over the map. Smaller factories right next to the node(s) they require, etc.

[opaque wren]

And if you cannot find "flat" terrain, simply build foundations at elevation

[white dawn]

(Obviously some factories might have to cart in resources from elsewhere, but in general you can find spots which have most everything)

And yeah, you can always build up. Space generally isn't a problem in this game. :)

[paper star]

As a modular factory builder, literally any area works for me. Also depends on how willing you are to repurpose your original nodes and delete old factories

[wary falcon]

i would love this but i usually need to go to every factorfy multiple times, unless i can teleport i feel like i would spend 50% of my playtime travelling

[white dawn]

You could decide to Not Play Like That, of course. :)

Once I'm done with a factory it's done forever, and I basically never have to visit it again

[opaque wren]

I find that having one "main base" and some specific factories here and there works the best.

[white dawn]

Once its exports are set up (whether just to Depot, or to a central storage, or to the "next factory") then it's done

[wary falcon]

damn i guess im just not that forward thinking 😭

[opaque wren]

Since you mostly spend your time on your main base and all resources are there.

[white dawn]

Basically my advice is generally "resist any kind of centralization"

Make some Rotors for yourself, then that Rotor factory is done. Any other factory which needs rotors just makes more right inside the new factory, etc

[white dawn]

Honestly my approach is mostly a lack of required forward thinking

[wary falcon]

suppose you would have to travel to those places whats teh fastest? hypertube launchers?

[paper star]

#screenshots message
modularity for the win

[white dawn]

I just make exactly what I need right now, then that factory's done.

[queen slate]

I’m doing something right now:D

[wary falcon]

crazy statement 😭

[white dawn]

If I need more of that resource later I just know that I'll be making more

That approach lets you build in a lot of fun different environments, make use of more alt recipes, etc.

And requires basically zero planning ahead, 'cause you're only ever making exactly what you need

[wary falcon]

do you tend to make for example, one factory of 10000 rods per min or whatever, and then port that to other factories, or do you make your rods right there where you need them

[white dawn]

The only plan is "I'm building a factory to make x/min of resource Y"

[white dawn]

Basically I always just make 'em right where they're needed

[wary falcon]

ahh interesting

[white dawn]

I'm basically just once again dancing around Independency advocacy: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[paper star]

As a train advocate, Im a port guy

[wary falcon]

i genuinely hate transporting resources from place to place, i always find the trains unit/min is too slow for factory, maybe im doing it wrong

[steady cedar]

This is probably a good way unless you wanna plan every single future item which isn't really fun and new recipes and machines can always change things

[fickle locust]

Pick a high level product you want to make and build all the sub-components there. Rods are easy to make on-site, so it's a waste of time to port them; Heavy Modular Frames are a big production chain so it's nicer to have a central factory and distribute

[wary falcon]

+building them sucks

[paper star]

For basic parts that you might need hundreds or thousands of, trains are the move (if you dont go mega factory route). Smaller ppm items i still use trains because they're cool but some consider Drones as well

[steady cedar]

Luckily HMF aren't used in many production lines, imagine having to remake that at ever corner of the map

[wary falcon]

alr well ty ig ill start desert

[sand bridge]

hi all! new here. interested in learning how folks make their builds in this game look so much cleaner than mine. to that end, if I were to want to explore any particularly well-regarded worlds among the community, how could I do that?

[queen slate]

What about complex items to make like turbo motors do you make those in the new factory too or do you ship them over?

[fickle locust]

Answering for myself, those are a perfect example of something I'll make in one place and one place only

[paper star]

TotalXclipse on youtube has great looking builds. He also has a handful of guides on building asthetics and factory organization. Im not sure about any dedicated sites for world downloads, but Xclipse and Kibitz and some other youtubers will make base showcase vids from worlds with like 1000+ hours

Nice for inspiration

[abstract heron]

@reef dock

[queen slate]

Ye I figured building that in every fact that needs them would get annoying and you just end up sinking them anyway

[hot trail]

Is there a good method to keeping drones fueled? I can’t seem to wrap my head around an automated process and I’m finding myself filling them up manually with turbo fuel. TIA!

[white dawn]

My late-game factories do end up often being comprised of geographically-diverse "subfactories" with intermediate parts being shipped around

The key for me is that those subfactories are custom-built specifically for that more -advanced part, rather than a centralized automation point

[paper star]

Regarding high level factory logistics, I'll give my two cents as a fully modular advocate.

Having a dedicated factory for every* single part allows for simple part organization and very very easy expansion. For example, i might make a motor factory that ships in rotors and stators and realize i need more, to expand this i would just need more assemblers and ship in more stators/rotors. in my personal experience though, with enough planning for late game, you rarely need to expand factories.

(asterisk on every* part, as things like ficsite ingots don't need to be made into anything but ficsite trigons. I use my own judgement to determine what parts' factories are made)

The complicated part of modular factories is transport logistics, which is where having considerable knowledge of trains is very valuable. My design is a two-way track around and throughout the entire world, and then I'll just slap stations for a new modular factory away from other train-congested areas to prevent backups and gridlocks. For me, every factory has a station for each incoming part and the exporting part. So a ballistic warp drive factory has 5 stations. But everyone will handle their train setups differently.

Trains aren't necessary for many of the especially low-production rate parts. You might consider to just build all the phase 5 elevator parts in one quite small area, for example, or use drone networks.

Many people will do hybrid builds, with a variety of medium-sized factories for a handful of parts, spread out across the world.

[white dawn]

So like I may have an HMF factory whose sole job it is to supply the next subfactory down the line

[opaque wren]

I am quite the opposite. I see no value in having 82 trains on the map, when you can make 6-7 megafactories and exchange only high-end products - if needed.

[barren spire]

Of all the things that are the hardest to gather, is plastic. Between balancing fluid levels for the oil production lines and containers for the excess is just ridiculous. Fortunately I know when I need to go and check it out when I notice a 500mw dip...

[white dawn]

The value is that my factories are generally dead simple. And I have a rail network anyway, so why not use it? (Also drones and vehicles)

Also my PC performance is better for spreading out. :)

And I get to build in all sorts of fun locations, and take advantage of a variety of alt recipes and such

[opaque wren]

Sure but you need a resource and then you have move from factory to factory.

Instead of having everythign centralized.

[queen slate]

That’s what I do I thought I was doing smth wrong ngl

[paper star]

Even with a large and complex train rail setup, i still found myself with backup issues. There is such a thing as too many trains lol, but it's fun for me to handle those logistics.

[white dawn]

If I need a resource for a new factory, I make it specifically for the new factory, often on-site

[opaque wren]

No, I mean resources for yourself - for building stuff.

Low on wire? Well...let me travel across map to the wire factory.

[queen slate]

I only ship in complex parts I would never ship in aluminum sheets I usually make them in site

[paper star]

Mercer spheres fear this guy apparently

[white dawn]

Each of my factories only ultimately exports to my own personal use. That's what the factory is for

I'm not low on wire once I build my Wire factory, because that's what the Wire factory is doing

(and as of 1.0, all my factories also feed Dimensional Depots)

[opaque wren]

So you do "centralize" everything then, right?

Depos are nice but not enough for bigger builds.

[paper star]

Every single part-dedicated factory i make uses a smart splitter to fill a small container routing to a depot, then overflow to the stations. It doesnt matter if my concrete is being made in the top left and im in the bottom right doing something else, I'll always have it available from Depot

[white dawn]

Sure they are! Might need more than one uploader for stuff like concrete, but you've got ~200 Depots available to you

[paper star]

Yeah i had 6 concrete depots

[opaque wren]

But until you get to the point where you have the entire mercer spheres cleaned up, the game is already "over"

[barren spire]

That's where the dimensional depot comes in

[opaque wren]

1 depo is not enough

[paper star]

If you explored more instead of always being at a mega factory then you'd have plenty of spheres throughout the game's progression lol

[white dawn]

I keep up with my exploration for all of spheres, sloops, drives, and DNA. I admit that does require a willingness to head out to the wild

[paper star]

Yeah you should already be exploring for alt recipes anyways and spheres are more plentiful than drives

[opaque wren]

I agree that setup works once you have hundreds of spheres.

[paper star]

You need like 50 spheres tops for a solid resource system

[barren spire]

No but you can upgrade them to capture every resource and they fill nearly as fast as you can drain them so...I'm currently working on building the mats necessary to build a nuclear power plant factory, and every one of those mats are hooked to a DD so I can build remotely.

[opaque wren]

But it's difficult to get to that point if you start decentralized and you run around from factory to factory picking up materials.

[fickle locust]

How you set up initial factories doesn't necessarily equate to how your eventual game looks

[paper star]

I mean yeah you build it up over time. Even just 30/min is fine for the basic stuff in the early game, with a depot for like wire plates rods concrete cable

[fickle locust]

I made a bunch of crappy little factories for phases 1-3 as I explored and built up, such that by phase 4 I could start doing the depots everywhere mega setup

[hidden palm]

my game is constantly crashing and I can find no solution to it can you guys help

[paper star]

Not with 0 info. Also go to #1038092680493801533

[hidden palm]

ok

[barren spire]

Hell I built a DD specifically so I can lay rail and explore with a train, so that way now that most of the map is explored and I know where I need to go to get stuff, a rail AND power is not far away.

[paper star]

Setting up my entire train network in phase 3 was hell but so worth it, especially compared to handling mega factory belt logistics

[white dawn]

I do agree that there's still at least some value in at least a basic "central storage" type location up until midgame or so. You're right that it's a nontrivial amount of effort to get your Depots upgraded and built out to reasonable strength

And I do still enjoy building Central Storage even though I end up basically never using it. :D

[opaque wren]

I mean, you pretty much need to clear up the entire map of spheres until you are confortable with that setup.

Upgrades are like...100 spheres?

[white dawn]

But I'm still a firm believer in expansion and smaller factories, even in the early game. You're not gonna be heading far from your starting biome in Phase 1, after all

[opaque wren]

And you need - at least for some items - multiple depos

so yes, if you have 200+ spheres, then it comes appealing.

[white dawn]

If you're in the mindset of building outposts all over the map anyway, then you're already doing that, though. :)

It's a self-reinforcing system

To be clear, I'm not trying to convince you to start building differently. I'm just saying that Independency is a fantastic build strategy which solves a lot of problems. :)

[paper star]

Not even close lol. 120/min upload is comfortable and only takes 24 spheres to reach, then one sphere for each resource, maybe one or two extra for high demand resources

[white dawn]

I know it's not gonna work for everyone. :)

[opaque wren]

Well...I view it the other way around -> Create a problem and then sell the solution 🙂

If I have a megabase where I build most of the stuff with the ocasional remote base for oil or alumnium, I don't need to scout the entire map.

Because everything is available where I am. And if I go and build an output, I can just pick up the extra stuff that I might need.

[paper star]

Yeah that makes sense, and having a central storage for that makes sense, but saying you need hundreds of spheres to utilize depots well is objectively incorrect

[opaque wren]

Well, here is my situation. I have a depo for almost every items (I am on phase 4). I have 2 levels in depo speed + depo size

If I build a remove factory, I will always need to have resources in my inventory.

At least 3-4 resources will be drained from the depo faster than I can build.

Quickwire is a good example. Same for concrete.

I am pretty sure I have 100+ spheres by now.

[paper star]

Yeah 120/min upload would do you well, for the super expensive price of 13 spheres

[humble osprey]

i need to post an image to make a point about something, how can i do that

[opaque wren]

It's 23 spheres.

[paper star]

Check again, that's for 240

Besides you have over a hundred so what's it matter

[opaque wren]

I mean, I used them for depos / upgrades.

[pine owl]

I plan to build a citadel around the space elevator and Bus™ everything there by truck

[opaque wren]

My point is that I would need to clean the map of spheres to go decentralized.

How many spheres are in the game? 250-300?

[paper star]

Sure, yeah

[pine owl]

uberfactory. The Wall. It will put my iron site to shame

[opaque wren]

So my point is that by the time decentralized becomes 'better", I probably stop playing the game.

I don't see myself playing thousands of hours.

[pine owl]

The forests yearn for sprawling highway networks and I care not of its efficiency, because it will be cool

[ornate saffron]

Epic roads with epic views to be seen from your sexy factory cart

[pine owl]

trucks and tractors only, the carts must stay on the sidewalk

I will be the first inhabitant of this world to get stuck in traffic

[ornate saffron]

Judging by the crash sites though you won't be the first pioneer to have a rough crash.

[pine owl]

I've only found freighters around so far

[sick falcon]

is there any way to mvoe where my ficmas tree is now that the event is over

[queen slate]

o7 I respect and praise your goals

[pine owl]

I do wonder how far the AI pathing goes there

[ornate saffron]

There is no ai pathing

[sick falcon]

i have to remind you that speculating about the crashed freighters violates your ficsit contract

[fluid crow]

not good if took that many pods just to survive the landing

[zenith pecan]

The hard drives survived the landing, what more do you need?

[quasi warren]

Thats the thing. The hard drives are not the drop pods. Its the freighters we send up when unlocking milestones

Same shape, thrusters, everything

[opaque wren]

The truth is, it is a simulation. The phases is just for testing purposes and have no real impact. Most of the shipments won't even make it - hence you find them across the world.

[leaden matrix]

Use more depos for that resource, since both upload at the same time it more or less doubles the upload time, even if it feels a little redundant

[leaden turret]

my headcanon is that's how ficsit deals with unionisation efforts

[indigo kiln]

I just focus on saving the cats and puppies

[sick falcon]

i just focus on flying around aimlessly instead of progressing the game

[leaden turret]

roleplaying the flying manta then

[indigo kiln]

Is there a way to put my stuff inside of satisfactory modeler without having to remember everything I've done

[fickle locust]

Yeah but they upload every second you aren't building
Make a single constructor building the material and one industrial storage feeding into a dimensional depot. Effectively permanent uploading.
And if it's too slow, you can either spend 1 whole sphere to double the speed, or wait 1 entire minute for it to refill

I can't walk around the map without tripping over Mercer Spheres, they are not a precious resource to be hoarded

[drowsy kelp]

i'd recommend not sticking your foot in a mercer sphere

do they even have a solid surface

[ornate saffron]

Stepping on the balls of alien origin is not recommended

[fickle locust]

I got the glitch where collected spheres reappeared on the map without the protective eggshell
But they still have collision
So I can indeed step on them, they are solid

[leaden matrix]

They are precious to me, I couldnt play without them

[drowsy kelp]

i meant more lore-wise

in-game it would pretty much have to be a solid sphere

[pine owl]

Not specifically a violation, but frowned upon in the contract according to what ADA mentioned (in my helmet, at least).

[queen slate]

Quick q is it ok for an assembler manifold to be fed in opposite directions?

[dense heron]

Is there ever a reason to use (or automate) rebar ammo if you’ve unlocked and automated rifle ammo?

I have not automated either but did unlock rifle ammo. Just wondering what type of factory to build for this

[fluid crow]

depends if you want to use rebar gun

[fickle locust]

Totally fine and often makes sense because it can be easier to manage resources flowing in if they're coming from different sides

[queen slate]

k tysm ❤️

[fickle locust]

I'm an always-rifle guy but I know there are people who think rebar is clearly superior. Personal preference is all that matters here

[leaden matrix]

I mean, if you use the rebar gun, of course

If you use the rifle you should automate rifle ammo though ^^

[unkempt blade]

just out of curiosity why did you think it might not be ok?

[clear mesa]

Explosive rebar particularly, yes. Makes nobelisks obsolete imo

[queen slate]

good question hmmm ig i thought that the first machines would only start working when the other manifold is full lol

and i thought that might be a problem for whatever reason

[leaden matrix]

It makes base nobelisks obsolete, but the better ones [think the nuke] are obviously better at clearing an area

[clear mesa]

ye for sure, can automate both if you really wanted to

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok, it'll definitely still have some amount of ramp up time while it saturates but I can't imagine it being any worse than all one way

[clear mesa]

i feel i manage to make due with 1 tho tbh

[queen slate]

thx

[leaden matrix]

I prefer the nobs but im biased Because they're better visually :>
But I get it ^^

[clear mesa]

ofc u would helldiver 🙂‍↕️

[outer musk]

I’m making a central storage area, is it better to have a bunch of trains riding along to the different factories then bringing stuff back or is there a better way to do it

[queen slate]

also with my manifold the ones at the back fill up because the ones at the front are always working if that makes sense is there any way to fix that?

[unkempt blade]

Trains are one of the more-fun ways at least. There's really no best way

[outer musk]

Would you recommend one way over the other?

[unkempt blade]

That'll happen until the ones near the entry side fill up. It'll fix itself with time if you did the math right. If you want to speed it up you can hand-fill some of the machines with ingredients if you have extra to do that

[leaden matrix]

Load balancers are always an option ;-;

But either way they will all fill up assuming its not an exact 1-1 ratio [i think]. It just takes a while for them to spin up

[queen slate]

k thx

[clear mesa]

I'm not even sure why it'd be an issue unless you're chasing energy to be constantly 100% max production

[queen slate]

ik load balancers are however when i need 36 constructers load balancers dont seem very appealing imo

[clear mesa]

no they do not :p

[cunning glade]

Coupon

[leaden matrix]

Then just wait on the spin up ToT

Oh how I wish load balancers were better </3

[clear mesa]

Theres a load balancer calculator if you really wanted to do all that...

Unless you mean an upgraded splitter where you can set ratios to a finer number

[fluid crow]

there is limited uses for balancers in this game

[unkempt blade]

The only time balancing really has any functional advantage is to reduce radiation by having fewer items sit on the belt. The rest of the time it's just a preference thing or a vanity strategy

And even with radiation... just make some filters. They're super cheap and last a long time

[leaden matrix]

I know of it, but sadly its just infinitely better to use manifolds [most the time] due to how compact and easy they are even if some times the spin up takes a couple life times.

[leaden matrix]

-# COFFEESTAIN STUDIOS, MAKE THIS AND MY SOUL IS YOURS

[clear mesa]

You're not wrong, especially on those giant power factories.. 😔

[leaden matrix]

Ik :<
But load balancers scratch an itch in my little brain that manifolds sadly will never

[clear mesa]

I'm sure there's a mod that allows for this exactly

However I'm scared of the game updating and the mod deprecating, practically forcing you to rebuild an entire factory when mods are anything other than QoL

[fluid crow]

If I want to spend my days pondering load balancers again I'll play some factorio

[dense heron]

I haven’t made the rifle yet so I wasn’t quite sure how it compared but I just assumed it would be more powerful

[clear mesa]

I still haven't given this game a go :p

[fluid crow]

the belt mechanics are pretty deep

[leaden matrix]

I believe the damage per round is nearly the same BUUUUTTT its fire rate is much faster

[dense heron]

Gotcha. Are there situations where shatter or explosive rebar are better? I’ve just been using shatter so far

[clear mesa]

Haha yeah i've seen some videos, the sheer complexity definitely seems to be higher than satisfactory's

But automation looks to be easier with their drone and blueprint mechanics

[leaden turret]

-# make ratio of 100 finer: 1🕶️

[fluid crow]

2d with 2 lanes really makes it a puzzle

[leaden matrix]

Hmmm, I think explosive can do better than it sometimes?

But generally its outdone by the rifle + the rifles alternate ammo

[clear mesa]

Yeah I've had my fair share of those kinds of annoyance with shapez

[leaden matrix]

Reminds me of Mindustry :>

[frosty mirage]

There's a creature sucking on geysers?

Or was it a coincidence that I encountered it near a geyser? It seemed to do some weird things with the geyser 🤷🏾‍♂️

[fluid crow]

as long as the geyser is safely in Ficsits hands now

[gloomy tusk]

where do i build a supercomputer factory

[fluid crow]

china?

[gloomy tusk]

i tried building one but then i couldnt use the alt crustal computer recipe cause it was too far and there was not enough plastic for the computers, and ither stuff

[indigo kiln]

In satisfactory calculator what are the roads mean

[unkempt eagle]

Wdym SpacePolice?

[dense violet]

they are 'natural' roads , essentially easy paths for trucks and stuff

[indigo kiln]

Ahhh okay nice

[gloomy tusk]

do you know a good spot for super computers to be manufactured

[unkempt eagle]

I did all of my electronics in the smack dab middle of the desert

[dense violet]

which recipes are you using? 🙂

[dense violet]

for example with these recipes you only need 2 resources +water https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=4Q3m2BBwExz6QM9h1xwt

[gloomy tusk]

what

[unkempt blade]

Too simple! I'm here for insane logistics puzzles like any true factory gamer!

[gloomy tusk]

what alt recipes do you need

[unkempt blade]

you can look at his link and see them

[gloomy tusk]

its not there

[unkempt blade]

it very much is there if you follow the link

[dense violet]

look at the recipe list 🙂

there's a taband each bubble tells you

[gloomy tusk]

oh but you also need copper

[dense violet]

nope

you're looking at the wrong tab, SFtools remembers old tabs you looekd at

[queen slate]

#screenshots message i cant tell if i cooked or not lol

[dense violet]

look at the far right tab

[gloomy tusk]

AI limiter?

[swift turret]

your pipes uneven