satisfactory

[feral jay]

Bad math on my part

That's 120 gigawatts, it might be

[stoic laurel]

4m or 2m for railroad inclines

[opaque wren]

2m

Technically it depends on load/ number of freights

[stoic laurel]

okay, so they struggle with verticle distances too just likes trucks and tractors

[feral jay]

Yea my 5 car trains can't handle steeper than 2M inclines for any appreciable langth

[stoic laurel]

thank you

[feral jay]

The few places where I've had to use 4M ramps, I need to add a second engine

(remove the https:// at the front)

Gets around the link whitelist

[opaque wren]

Edit: Removed since page is depracated.

[rare thunder]

truth nuke

[feral jay]

DO NOT USE THAT WIKI

The Fandom wiki is horribly out of date, and actively vandalized

[rare thunder]

coal factory? you mean shonen jump?

[leaden turret]

that's not the wiki, that's an abandoned trashfire

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Freight_Car

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Freight Car

[jovial wing]

Hey guys. Just bought the game and started for the first time.
The in game menu language is in Swedish for some reason which really annoys me, is it possible to change the menu language from within the game?

[forest osprey]

do wires need smelter? or convertor only?
miner>smelter>convertor
or
miner>convertor

[hoary light]

the what? i mean like 800 coal powered generators burning the coal

[rare thunder]

because coal is the opposite of gem and shonen jump only makes diddyslop

[opaque wren]

This doesn't have a nice table for inclination / number of freights (which is the relevant part when deciding on incline)

[feral jay]

Assume that the Fandom wiki is wrong. It is actively vandalized.

[opaque wren]

Fair.

[feral jay]

And has not been updated since around U6

[hoary light]

settings->gamepaly-> scroll bottom

[leaden turret]

I'm looking right at it

[feral jay]

(Also, Fandom is evil, the site is horribly riddled with very questionable advertisements that introduce attack vectors to the users, and I hope that site dies in a fire)

[opaque wren]

AV blocked it for some reason. Anyway, good to know the distinction (I usually picked whatever google pointed to - didn't see there are 2 wiki s)

[feral jay]

Yeah it's frustrating the Google still points people to the Fandom wiki, but it's getting better

[leaden turret]

there is 1 wiki, and 1 ad-laden trashfire

[feral jay]

I have a browser plugin that blocks all Fandom results, because that site is hot garbage.

[ornate saffron]

At least the Fandom is no longer the tip search result

[forest osprey]

what does space elevator do? im currently gathering materials to build one

[white dawn]

It's what you use to advance to new "phases" of the game

Phase 2 gives you Tiers 3+4, Phase 3 gives you Tiers 5+6, etc

[feral jay]

You put your project assembly part in there and launch them into orbit to progress through the game

[ornate saffron]

You are contracting a ||space ship.|| The space elevator transports items to the || space dock and ship construction||

[white dawn]

||spoilers... 🥳 ||

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
honestly surprised this doesnt cause derailing

[white dawn]

heh

The only thing trains care about is other trains (and as of v1.1, reaching an "end of rail")

Otherwise they DGAF. Clip 'em through anything you want! 🥳

[opaque wren]

They can even go through foundations.

[brazen coral]

Okay so I got a tractor lost at the beginning of a cave entrance. I think it clipped through the ground because I'm not finding it anywhere

Pretty sure it had some Mercer spheres I stored in there and trying to get it back

[white dawn]

If you're on PC, you should be able to snag it and move it with SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map)

[brazen coral]

I'm on console unfortunately

[white dawn]

(and/or use SCIM to just give yourself those spheres back)

Ah, alas. If it makes you feel better re: sphere loss, there's way more spheres on the map than most folks are ever gonna use

So the loss of even a few dozen won't really slow you down in the end

If your tractor loss happened just recently, you could try loading an autosave

[unkempt blade]

I'm not sure how console handles saves but can you load a save from before it happened?

[brazen coral]

Yeah I get it cuz overall you don't use every sphere for everything

Some things you have no use in storage for

Just unfortunate on a new game

[white dawn]

Yeah

[unkempt blade]

and if you've unlocked the depot you can manually put stuff like spheres in the depot then it's much safer while you're running around

[brazen coral]

I haven't unlocked the depot yet. That's what I was getting Sam for

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok

[white dawn]

I'd thought the vehicle-falling-through-the-ground thing was taken care of awhile ago; I know I've seen a few folks on console mention it though. I still wonder if there's a regression in the console version

[brazen coral]

And also running into a cave to get the Sam

It's probably fine, I can just as easily start a new game anyway cuz I'm only on phase two

I've learned to Mark stuff on the map that my other save file has cuz it's basically the same coordinates for everything

[white dawn]

In terms of sphere quantities, btw, there's about 300 on the map. You need about 100 to do all the MAM upgrades, which leaves you with 200 to use for Depots

[brazen coral]

Helps to know the map

[white dawn]

So there's a lot out there

[brazen coral]

I think in my first playthrough I've only ever used maybe 60 depots

Not just for the basic components

[white dawn]

Yeah, 200 is way more than practically anyone's ever gonna use

Even if you really buff up your "basic resources" uploads

[brazen coral]

Basic components plus ammo

Ammo was super useful to have in a Depot. Just take it out when you need it

And even at a three splitter production line, I was making like an absurd amount for almost every type of ammo

That was the one thing I didn't sink cuz I still kind of needed it readily available

[forest osprey]

how do i get smart plating?

[white dawn]

Once you unlock the appropriate milestone at your HUB, you can look it up in the game's Codex

Hit o to open the Codex itself, or n for a search bar (which is also an in-game calculator!)

Searching for a resource will show you all the recipes you have available to make it, and what building(s) those recipes belong in

(If you haven't unlocked it via milestones at your HUB, then it won't show up in the Codex yet)

[forest osprey]

ty

[versed cosmos]

Also, smart plating cannot be crafted in the crafting bench. It must be crafted in an assembler.

You'll need a few thousand for a whole playthrough. Having factories for reinforced plates and rotors, and just throwing those into containers feeding as assembler making smart plating will be good enough for all the smart plating you need.

[bitter dirge]

um.. hey guys im struglign slightly with implementation of indepedant factories .. im just worried about a few things like

for one .. would i be making an independant factory for idk reinforced plates but then i require two iron ore deposits to make an indepedant reinforced plate facotry and two iron ore deposits reasonably near each other i think? becuase we need one for rods to be processed into screws and another for plates i think?

[reef basin]

you never need X deposits. You need X/min of iron. How you get that is up to you

[bitter dirge]

im not that far into the game but isnt 1 deposit can only accept 1 miner and for mk 1 at least its 60 per minute?

anywayss im worired though because is there even enough iron ore deposits in the game to get a independant factory for each resource that is produced using iron?

[reef basin]

you have multiple tiers of belts and miners

and even if it was 60/min, you can just split it to use some resources for rods and some for plates

[ornate saffron]

Youll get better Miners as you progress and other ways to manipulate how much ore you get. Work through the teirs and phases. You will eventually unlock the MAM. Don't sleep on mam research

[reef basin]

and again, you don't need to have "enough iron nodes", you need to have "enough iron per minute"

[bitter dirge]

o okay

[white dawn]

There are a lot more resources on the map than most people realize. You really have to specifically try hard to actually exhaust resources on the map (with the possible exception of SAM).

[bitter dirge]

SAM?

[white dawn]

There's literally 92,100/min Iron Ore, for instance

[white dawn]

Don't worry about it; you'll find it eventually. :)

[ornate saffron]

Another rsource that will be relevant at some point

[drowsy kelp]

How far will the game search for a disassembly crate to add the stuff to before creating a new one

[white dawn]

It is easy enough to exhaust local resources, of course, which is one factor to encourage expansion. Expansion becomes much easier once you have more logistics options as you progress through the game

[bitter dirge]

yeah but the only issue for me is that i feel like that could mean i would be required to move extremly lenghty iron ore conveyer belts because i need more iron for one item then the rest
but if there is 92k iron per min i guess that should be more then enough

[crystal storm]

i need to figure out nuclear eventually

goal is like, 1 terawatt, idfk

[reef basin]

there's more than enough for practically anything

[white dawn]

Honestly if you're this early I wouldn't sweat any of the details too much; just do whatever you want and have fun learning stuff

[drowsy kelp]

Because i just found a pile of missing stuff a kilometer away

[bitter dirge]

o

[white dawn]

Instead of having extremely lengthy iron ore belts, just build the new factories near those other Iron nodes. :)

[ornate saffron]

Assuming you started in the grassy plans you start near 5 iron nodes. Just build near them. When you have to expand and find more nodes, build near those nodes. You do not need to have a central factory.

[bitter dirge]

o i started in the desert

[ornate saffron]

@bitter dirge you will make mistakes, and regrett decisions this is normal. Just stick with. It and learn. As you go

[ornate saffron]

Dune Desert has something like 30 iron nodes

[drowsy kelp]

The rocky desert?

[bitter dirge]

I think so it was the middle option for satisfactory (idk if thats teh rocky desert i think it is) .. cuz last time i started in the grassy plains but caterium was really painful to get

[drowsy kelp]

Caterium is a few hundred meters away

[steady dagger]

can i post my gartic phone link here

[obsidian quail]

i loved when i thought that the different starting areas were different maps.

[white dawn]

If you get yourself into the expansion mindset, no resource is painful to get because you'll be headed all over the place anyway. :)

[drowsy kelp]

The rocky desert is the one with stereotypical sand colored sand

The dune desert is a distinct orange

[white dawn]

Once you break free of the "main base" mindset, the map is your oyster

[bitter dirge]

def the rocky desert

[ornate saffron]

That is by design. You need to figure out logistics as you go. Belting is a legit option though costly. Trucks maybe better

[bitter dirge]

i kept having to go to a place with water where the caterium was basically really close to a gap between the worlds and i fell throguh there a couple times 😭 (now thta i think of it i could have probably built foundations across hmm)

[bitter dirge]

oo i see

[reef basin]

that's the game telling you to expand, because it wants you to build factories all over the map

[ornate saffron]

Its the same map no matter you start location. It is hand crafted and designed with game mechanics logistics and lessons in mind. 10 out of 10 i would pay for another handcrafted map with the same thought and effort put in

[gloomy tusk]

Why does supercomputers take up so much

[reef basin]

so much of what?

[ornate saffron]

Space?

Like sir mixalot I like big butta

[gloomy tusk]

no just resources

[drowsy kelp]

Late game stuff is like that

[gloomy tusk]

they take up more then reinforced modular frames

[drowsy kelp]

HMFs aren’t that big

[ornate saffron]

Wait until later cubes

[drowsy kelp]

Fused modular frames?

[ornate saffron]

Sure or any cube after that

[drowsy kelp]

Fused is the last modular frame

There are only 3

[reef basin]

more what? resources? space? power? complexity?

[hushed totem]

Mmmmm tearing down your mega-base for 10th time

[ornate saffron]

||Nuclear pasta, pressure conversion||

[gloomy tusk]

im so scared about nulear pasta

[covert quarry]

i'm still in early game and i'm building a sulfur factory, this means i can't progress further in the MAM which means i can't see the recipes of items that require sulfur, anyone know where i can find all the recipes?

[reef basin]

don't tear down, just build new and keep old

[hushed totem]

I've put nearly 100 hours in this game and I've only just got to phase 4

[gloomy tusk]

oh

now i feel bad about myself

[hushed totem]

Why?

[ornate saffron]

Thats fine. Are you enjoying it?

[gloomy tusk]

300 hours in and hit it not too long ago

[drowsy kelp]

I’ve been at the end of phase 3 for the past ~25 hours of game time simply because we can’t find a time where we’re all online to send the space elevstor

[hushed totem]

Yeah Alot tbh, oh and also by just getting to phase 4 I mean actually progressing thru it

[ornate saffron]

Again thats fine. You having fune

[drowsy kelp]

Who cares how fast or slow you progress through phases

[covert quarry]

fr

[gloomy tusk]

it has taken over my sleep and my social life

[drowsy kelp]

I am slowly running out of stuff to do tho

[hushed totem]

Honestly yeah that makes sense, but also I might be thinking of the wrong phase

Ykw lemme check rq actually

[ornate saffron]

Lol that can happen. Especially for those of us who have hyper focus issues

[atomic cradle]

Hyper focus issues?

[gloomy tusk]

i just keep upgrading things because i realise my factory could be automated better

[hushed totem]

Mhm yeah nah nvm I got confused I'm not even on phase 4 yet

[obsidian quail]

the tear down re-optimize loop is addicting...

[bitter dirge]

i guess.. i didnt really think of it although it was my first run

[ornate saffron]

Ya, some people especially those with add and adhd loose track of time when they are focused on something.

[hushed totem]

I'm just starting to progress thru phase 3 tho and am about close to finishing uhh, tier 7 or whatever its called

[gloomy tusk]

i have to spread out my factorys otherwise my computer will crash

[atomic cradle]

Oh okay

[hushed totem]

Oh does it start to lag substantially too after playing for a bit?

[gloomy tusk]

i once woke up and played and forgot to eat breakfast and lunch

[gloomy tusk]

yeah well i also have a pretty shit computer

[ornate saffron]

Ya i set alarms to remind me

[hushed totem]

I spent 14 hours yesterday playing it

[obsidian quail]

ADA is helping you lose weight

[ornate saffron]

Remember your familiar, social, work, school and physical responsibilities. Game responsibility

[hushed totem]

Mm yeah that makes sense, I play on console but it starts to lag hardcore if I play for awhile without quitting the game especially since I put everything in one place

[gloomy tusk]

what console?

[hushed totem]

Xbox Series S

[hushed totem]

Pfft, factory is all that matters now

[gloomy tusk]

i got fired so thats one gone

[hushed totem]

Plus I set up 90 fuel generators which was worth it

[real shale]

Unfortunately I rewrote my brain over those responsibilities with the optimal setups for factories

[hushed totem]

Honestly I'm only just now kinda starting to try and optimize stuff which is why I'm tearing stuff down and rebuilding it

[real shale]

My brain does not concern itself with lesser responsibilities, it only concerns itself with efficiency, the factory must grow, anything else is suboptimal.

[gloomy tusk]

anyone else seen josh play minemogul in a way it has features like satisfactory

[hushed totem]

Yeah I just watched that vid

[gloomy tusk]

i might get it after i play some more satisfactory

[hushed totem]

I wish he'd make a new satisfactory video tbh

Makes sense it does look mildly fun

[gloomy tusk]

might wait for them to release more content tho

[ornate saffron]

Im currently working through warhammer 40k rogue trader.....

But this is a conversation for #off-topic-general

[gloomy tusk]

whats warhammer

[crystal storm]

im trying to figure out how to build a balanced uranium -> ficsonium nuclear power plant for a total of 1 terawatt

[ornate saffron]

Have you started any construction or are you still in the planning phase?

[crystal storm]

planning right now

im not sure if ficsonium is right, cant remember if its actually feasible to do

[gloomy tusk]

my main goal for the save i am playing is to reach 100,000 MW

[crystal storm]

1 terawatt is because im silly and can do whatever i want :3

[ornate saffron]

I suggest planning in chunks starting with nuclear rods.

The. Plutonium rods. Once you get to plutonium rods you can sink them until you figure out what's next in the chain

[bitter dirge]

@reef basin @ornate saffron tysm for the help.. i think.. um.. the best ideaa for me is to make some local factories now to get resources to actually consider moving forward instead of trying to solve everything now.. hopefully then i can expand to more areas with iron ore deposits

[gloomy tusk]

how far through the game are you?

[ornate saffron]

We are here if you git a wall amd have a specific problem that a quick Google search can't help with.

[bitter dirge]

im doing another run rn still busy on tier 2 and i need to build the space elevator so i guess im still quite a bit to go althgouh i have gotten to phase 1 or 2 on m,y previous run i just disliked the way i did everything

[crystal storm]

i just checked, why tf is ficsonium so... bad?

[gloomy tusk]

do you happen to have a link to the satisfactory map showing where every ore is and like every mecer sphere?

[ornate saffron]

Pinned in #welcome and #math-and-meta although it was down 20 minutes ago when I checked

[carmine beacon]

1.2 where? I need a teaser so bad 😩

[ornate saffron]

In CSS headquarters

[odd ibex]

I have a world on my steam account, but I wanna buy the game again on a different steam account but on the same computer. Will my world still be saved on the new account?

[ornate saffron]

If not you can just go to the file location and manually copy it

[abstract heron]

Its winter vacation i think there back but January is quiet month on News

[odd ibex]

Ohh ok

Ty

[whole ermine]

is there a way to always use mk2 or mk3 power poles instead of the mk1

[odd ibex]

Oh yeah and im building a factory rn but the conveyer belts are so messy and stuff when they go into the input

Any tips?

[green fiber]

dont clip

[whole ermine]

straight build mode

[ornate saffron]

Build on foundations

[whole ermine]

remember you can go up too

[fluid crow]

add mk.2 to hotbar or connecting lines reproduces the type you're connecting to

[fickle locust]

Not a perfect way
But if you draw a power line out of a pole, the new pole will be the same kind. So if you've got one mk2 pole and draw a power line, it'll create a new mk 2

[odd ibex]

Hmm okay thank you ill use that tip

[hallow flicker]

Hide the spaghetti inside of a building addition.

[whole ermine]

Logistics floors!

I always go foundation on ground > foundation 1 wall above > 8 walls > 1 foundation > 1 foundation above

idk if that makes sense but

Oh yeah, and hold control to build on a worldwide grid

Always use 2m or 4m on your ground floor

[reef basin]

world girid is a trap

[whole ermine]

world grid fun

i dont put rails on world grid anymore

[reef basin]

make local grids, don't fall for world grid

[green fiber]

i dont like the world grid because i dont want that specific position OR orientation

[whole ermine]

do you build in more dense areas?

i always build on the biggest open areas

[green fiber]

no i build everywhere

large open areas and literal caves

[whole ermine]

wait arent you the pipe document guy

ok that makes sense

[obsidian quail]

Why not 1m?

[green fiber]

1 m creates a grid offset vertically

[obsidian quail]

....

feck

[whole ermine]

Its fine

[reef basin]

just another reason to not use world grid 🙂

[whole ermine]

World grid is nice and clean

[reef basin]

any grid is nice and clean

don't need to lock yourself to a single orientation and position

[fluid crow]

the game is missing rotating tiles on the world grid

[obsidian quail]

i don't really do anything "world grid" but i love me some 1m foundations when i am building

[whole ermine]

Not using world grid annoys me for some reason /shrug

can you not get the diluted fuel recipe in the refinery in phase 2?

[obsidian quail]

ohh shiii... is that why sometimes the foundations are rotated* when i try to ctrl place them?

[whole ermine]

what do you mean?

[reef basin]

you cannot get any oil recipe in phase 2

[obsidian quail]

ill have to SS when im home

[fluid crow]

is it possible to place foundations at an angle

[whole ermine]

phase 3***

[reef basin]

you can get diluted packaged fuel

[whole ermine]

im just really unlucky then

[obsidian quail]

i used the wrong term, i meant rotated.

[reef basin]

have you unlocked packagers?

[whole ermine]

ya

[green fiber]

L luck moment

[fluid crow]

it's probably snapping to something near by that's not world grid

[jagged mango]

https://youtube.com/@universaldud532?si=upwTzXBEY_KkOjQo

[reef basin]

advertising isn't really allowed in here

especially offtopic one

[jagged mango]

My bad sorry

[mystic crag]

Bro just put the page with no video 😭

[queen egret]

The Fisconium Fuel Rod idea is great, it's a shame its cost makes it completely useless and, it's better to just sink the Plutonium Fuel Rod anyway. Don't you think?

[frosty mirage]

So what is world grid exactly then? How do you know you snapped to it?

[fickle locust]

Ficsonium is basically energy-neutral: it costs as much to make it as it produces, so it's fairly common to only make Uranium for power and then sink Plutonium. Doing the full chain is pretty much a for-fun-only activity

[fluid crow]

hold control to place something while you're not near anything else

[queen egret]

It also consume a lot of resources, so you can't even try that if you min-max resources. I wish devs would reduce it cost in one of the patch someday.

[frosty mirage]

Control being the snap button? Im on ps5, no idea what pc binds are

[fluid crow]

yea basically snap button probably

[queen egret]

If they at least would remove Ficsit Trigon from it's chain....

[fickle locust]

I'll be honest that I think resource consumption arguments are overblown. There is so much stuff on the map and I fundamentally don't believe nearly any players are actually running up against a limit there

[queen egret]

I do

[placid stirrup]

RIP your PC

[unkempt blade]

yeah you'd have to be doing a serious outlier of a save to run out of something

[fickle locust]

As I've mentioned here before, I'm doing a 20/20/5/5 build, am literaly freestyling where I make all my stuff, and am close to finishing with literally half of the map untouched

Yes there are people who run into the limit. But it's literally just youtubers making ridiculous megafactories for content and a few extreme outliers doing the same

[cinder quartz]

#screenshots message

can you guys please check this out i need help

[fickle locust]

Now, I'm saying this on this server and the population who actively contribute on a discord for a game is certain to skew toward outlier-type, heavy-commitment players. So I'm sure a few people here have hit that resource limit. But those people are the rounding error.

[unkempt blade]

and on the other hand I've seen dozens of new players on here overwhelming themselves and making the game stressful by trying to do insane factories 😆

[cinder quartz]

me btw

[queen egret]

The problem is that there is much less SAM than any other resources. But I understand your point.

[fickle locust]

I'd recommend you make your question in a thread because I have questions about what's going on

[unkempt blade]

ehh it's in the same ball park as like sulfur/bauxite/crystal type stuff

[spare cradle]

That's honestly the fun of it for me, though I do need to take many sessions to complete one of them bc the amt of time I math before even building

Then take another 2 hours just making a pretty box around it

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think a lot of people are into the idea but they might bite it off a little sooner than their game experience would recommend 😆

[spare cradle]

I'm close to 100 hours and haven't made anything with manufacturers bc I'm still in the process of upgrading my power grid from 2.4 to ~18GW (compensating for the vast amt of refineries)

I am a slow boi, but I enjoy my time mathing OCs for machines and slowly building onto my factories.

[kind spade]

i dismantled a truck whilst having a full inventory are the items gone now

[indigo kiln]

Should have made a box somewhere

Look for a gray box on the floor

[kind spade]

hmm dont see it weirdly

[fluid crow]

look for dismantle crate on the radar

[kind spade]

can it glitch under the map or smth

[kind spade]

dont have a radar yet

[fluid crow]

if there's another already in the area it could be a ways

[leaden matrix]

This is a tragedy, I got home and im to tired to play satisfactory, after a whole day thinking about what I wanna work on😭

[kind spade]

ah crazy there was one like hella far away and it merged or smth

[frosty mirage]

Dont play, gaming burnout is a real thing

[kind spade]

thank you very much

[unborn moss]

Do what I do when I'm too tired, open the game wonder what to do for 3 hours and accomplish nothing at all.

[frosty mirage]

I came home today from the office after an entire day of planning a huge factory, ended up just creating some blueprints and building another coal power plant as I'll need it anyway

Some days are better, some are worse. But at least i only spent 2 hours on the coal plant this time

[jade portal]

i came home today and wanted to play this game as ive been seeing it on tiktok again, but just realized how boring it os solo

[leaden matrix]

Nono you misunderstand, I want to play, yet my physical form holds me back from expanding the factory

I plan to fix this by sleeping temporarily (or just laying in bed) because the factory MUST expand :>

[frosty mirage]

You can also s i d e q u e s t

Never a bad time to sidequest

Yesterday I felt a conveyor belt is a bit off, ended up rebuilding all the basic item factories

[fallow shard]

who do I have to email to suggest we get Half-Sloped at some point lol

[unkempt blade]

so you just need more and/or better friends to play with!

[jade portal]

no no i need friends in general, in game and IRL sadly 😂

[surreal ingot]

I reaserched for 4 hours and 30 minutes before getting the alt recipie I needed

But i finally got it

[true mulch]

Scan the drives when you find them

[surreal ingot]

I was

I still have ~10 left

[fluid crow]

you come back from a trip with 10 it's already a pretty big back log

[grizzled harness]

Anyone else fascinated by learning the real life methods of material production because of this game? Im currently going down a rabbit hole on bauxite aluminum and kaolin clay lol

[unkempt blade]

There's a really good documentary you might like about how Dr Nichols and Professor Scott invented transparent aluminum

[native tapir]

How it's made is on HBO in America

Been throwing that on for my toddler for something low stimulation when I need background noise and don't want him actively watching TV lmao

[kind spade]

satisfactory calculator i loaded up my save how can I see the unfogged map does anyone happen to know

[native tapir]

You do not need to sleep. It is something to overcome

[mystic crag]

Best show of all time

I can still hear the intro music

[stoic laurel]

#screenshots message
how does this look?

[surreal ingot]

settings > map > reveal map

[boreal snow]

Is there a way to flip / mirror a bluebprint?

[unborn moss]

No, most of the machines only have 1 orientation. Build 2 blueprint designers, and build both sides together.

[grizzled harness]

Watching it on YouTube right now lol. Giving me ideas for my build. Says its transported by train from the mine to the refinery 🤔

[placid stirrup]

I love the parody ones

[placid stirrup]

Compact! I prefer to spread things out for a navigable factory floor, but if that's what you're going for then you nailed it

[leaden matrix]

Where's that one photo of Mr boss going

"Damn it, its genius! Why didnt I think of that"

[stoic laurel]

awesome! thank you, i wanted to compact things down, because im going to turn this area into a Heavy Modular Frame factory
#screenshots message

[lime turret]

I want to help my father on xbox but its unfortunate that they will NEVER add cross plat-form

[stoic laurel]

why not just get an xbox?

[junior arch]

Whats a good production rate for synthetic shards?

[lime turret]

Not enough money

I wonder if its possible to make a mod that ports the xbox version to pc and lets pc players play with xbox players

[kind spade]

´´thx

[drowsy kelp]

When making something new i usually have 1 or 2 final output buildings and all the support stuff so the things are being made but it isn’t tons of extra work

If you need more from there then you can make more

[leaden matrix]

This would be the greatest thing ever since the devs have no plans to make crossplay </3

[dim flint]

I need to get over my factory block and just start laying foundations.

This weekend I think. I've gotta lay like 100 manufacturers at least.

[placid stirrup]

An HMF factory, you say?
#design-and-architecture message

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots just hit 25 gigawatts

[whole robin]

has anyone else had a world that was set to multiplayer just randomly change to singleplayer????

[scenic mirage]

where all my cast screw lovers at

[violet pecan]

Anyone else got something up with Jump Pads?

As in, when disconnected from power they still work?

[vague scarab]

I wish I had friends to play this game with but I swear no one as young as me messes with it

[fickle locust]

How many circuit boards even are in this adaptive control unit

I made a billion for computers, and then more for high speed connectors to do speed wiring, but then I think I also just need circuit boards as circuit boards

[stoic laurel]

That is awesome!

[fickle locust]

And I'm not sure if I accounted for that in my plan or not. I fear I did not

[fickle locust]

Oh hell yeah this is awesome

[patent pagoda]

Any way to get back a deleted blueprint within the designer?

[stoic laurel]

When it comes to pipes, should I do them the same as conveyers? Where the main conveyer line is always a MK above the line going into the production building?

[placid stirrup]

Here's the other big build I've documented, hopefully I find the effort soon to make one for the nuclear plant we did
#streams-and-videos message

[fickle locust]

Apart from the instances where you obviously need to do this, no

[stoic laurel]

Okay thank you

[fickle locust]

You only have 2 levels of pipes to work with anyway, generally just match the flow rate you need

[stoic laurel]

Didn’t know if it would allow my main line of pipes to fill with fuel or not

[fickle locust]

Why would that matter? You consume fuel at the rate you consume it

[stoic laurel]

ive been having issues with my 2nd floor of fuel gens, where its not sending enough fuel to the middle and rear fuel gens. when it was a carbon copy of the 1st floor, its was having issues, i tried redoing the piping from the refineries and its still having issues

[fickle locust]

Happy to take a look in a questions thread. Just from your description that sounds like a production issue but it could be a few things

[fickle locust]

Excellently done past me, you did account for this

[oak nymph]

I like this game

When pipe aren't used

[lapis shadow]

A save with disabled achievements is indicated by the pencil on your save icon right? And a save with achievements would be the folder icon?

[dense violet]

I've pointed out several times there are some very simple and reliable ways to use pipes if you want to learn them, and I'm happy to show you. It sounds like you're just enjoying having a bad time with them at this point

[pallid hatch]

Man this is crazy. Game has been crashing constantly. Can't even load into the game. it either crashes at startup or when loading a save. Error codes point to shader issues, I have completely reinstalled the game, and have also cleared every possible shader caches. Still constantly crashing. At least this time with new error codes

[dense violet]

ever use mods?

because sometimes you need to go in and manually delete all mod related files in the main directory

[whole ermine]

i wish autoconnecting blueprints was like that one mod that just made manifolds automatically

i think it had the check mark guy as the logo

Also i just got the hoverpack

just started midgame :3

[near siren]

Tbf my game crashes too but very rarly

[pallid hatch]

still crashes even with no mods loaded. Its inconsistent, sometimes it loads, and if it makes it that far, it crashes when I try to load the game

[dense violet]

did you go into the file folders directly to remove the mod folders ?

[whole robin]

is there any reason why i would not drop a dismantle crate, and instead send it to a specific dismantle crate that's on a platform in the sky, regardless of my distance from it

[barren tulip]

it just does

[fickle locust]

The sad time has come where my max consumption is above my max production. Back to the Blue Crater we go

[whole robin]

I know it does, i want to know if i can make my dismantle crates spawn under my feet instead of being quantum entangled to some random ass crate

[fluid crow]

the dismantle crate placement setting

and "merge dismantle crates"

[whole robin]

I had it set to "next to player" the entire time, it didn't change when i checked and i was more than 500 meters away from it even though the setting says to merge crates that are 100 meters away from each other

[fluid crow]

I think merge crate is what you want off

I just make sure the one crate in the area is in a good location

[raw tree]

i need help

[swift turret]

See a therapist

[stuck dagger]

Have you visited your nearest help store

[ivory condor]

Just call ADA, she'll help you alright

[true orchid]

Setting up coal power is fcking annoying.

[ornate saffron]

With?

[true orchid]

Need power to make the water pumps send water to coal generator but can't make power without the coal generator, or traveling a billion miles to collect more leaves

[raw tree]

#streams-and-videos

[swift turret]

should've made solid biofuel and brough it with you

[versed cosmos]

You should be able to power it up on biofuel temporarily and once the coal generators turn over they'll provide the power

[ivory condor]

Hate to tell you this but collecting leaves is in your future

[true orchid]

Do leaves ever grow back? Because I find myself going further and further every time

[versed cosmos]

you only need to run biofuel for long enough for the coal generators to turn on

biofuel generators only provide the power if it's needed

[swift turret]

you only need enough biofuel to turn on 1 water gen

[fluid crow]

leaves yes trees no

[true orchid]

One generator is not enough to power my base

[fluid crow]

only the little bushes grow back

[barren tulip]

just use one to spool up the coal

[ivory condor]

Yep, good thing about those generators, it only burns what the network actually needs

[true orchid]

Hell, I'm not even sure 4 of em are enough. But the pumps are a pain in the ass to figure out so idk if it's even working riht

*right

[swift turret]

8 gens, 3 water gens is the standard

you dont need much coal for that

[ivory condor]

You only need one coal generator to get your power going, after that more power setup is easy

[whole robin]

turned it off and it worked

[true orchid]

I have 3 gens yet water never reaches the coal gen

[raw tree]

can help me #streams-and-videos

[true orchid]

I've placed the pump things along the pipe when I notice the flow rate decreasing...

So idk wtf is the issue

[grim estuary]

Just respawn

[native tapir]

Can we all agree that not being able to hold the purple orbs is this game's greatest shortcoming by far?

[versed cosmos]

i wanna lick those purple orbs

[native tapir]

I mean, aside from all the other shortcomings, this one comes shortest by far.

[versed cosmos]

pumps do not increase flow rate

they ONLY move fluid up

[true orchid]

Then how do I get the water further down the pipe

[raw tree]

how to take dead chest

[true orchid]

It just cuts off after a bit

[grim estuary]

Hope it spawns outside the thing

[versed cosmos]

it could be that youre trying to push more than 300 water per minute through a mk1 pipe

[grim estuary]

Or create a storage thingy and put all your stuff in it

[versed cosmos]

if that isnt the case, simply letting pipes prefill first by turning off the coal generators might fix it

[true orchid]

It looks as if there isn't enough being pushed theough

The glass ball thing on the menu never fills. It always has very little water if any in it

[versed cosmos]

overclocking the water extractors temporarily will also put more water into the system

[grim estuary]

Pause whatever it's going into and let the pipes build up

[versed cosmos]

thats what i tend to do when setting up coal power just so the pipes fill

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[true orchid]

I have no power.... No point in pausing

Regardless, the water pumps and everything are on their own separate power grid

[versed cosmos]

put them on the same grid as the coal generators

[true orchid]

I was going to when I can actually get the water to go through the pipes

[versed cosmos]

this might be worth a post in #1038092680493801533

[half briar]

anyone want to join me in making a new world?

[grim estuary]

I did mine like this #screenshots message

[true orchid]

I have stupid idea. I'm going to make several fluid storages along the pipeline and then completely disconnect everything from the water pumps. I want to make several biogenerators and make them run off of their own power grid and fill the stupid storages.

Then use the storage to jump start everything

[grim estuary]

What are you even trying to make

[versed cosmos]

dont do that

[true orchid]

I don't even know what I'm making I'm just kind of doing stuff

[versed cosmos]

buffers create a lot of sloshing

you will have more problems with buffers

also, each pipe is a small buffer

[grim estuary]

There's your first issue

[true orchid]

Aren't they supposed to just be storage?

[grim estuary]

No

[versed cosmos]

kinda

they behave like a pipe with a very big volume

[half briar]

aint nothing wrong w that

[grim estuary]

Could be wasting a ton of power and resources that could be used for something else more important

[half briar]

I have a question, are the belts on this efficient? like where you create a long straight belt and split off of it? I dont do it because the first one would get way more than the last.

[grim estuary]

Not when it gets backed up

[versed cosmos]

same as doing a load balancer

[white dawn]

The first ones only get "too much" until their input buffers fill up and the belt backs up

[versed cosmos]

but it takes time to fill up

[white dawn]

Once that happens on the first machine, then it's the next one which gets "too much" but then that one fills up as well

[versed cosmos]

for power specifically i always load balance

[karmic knot]

why cant i open map

[white dawn]

That keeps happening until you're left with the last two which are getting exactly what they need

[half briar]

what is load balance

[white dawn]

It does take some time for the system to "warm up," though you can bypass that by prefilling the input buffers

[versed cosmos]

splitting such that machines only get exactly what they need

[half briar]

thats what i normally do it just ends up looking like shit

[white dawn]

In the early game it's generally quite easy to load balance because the ratios tend to be quite straightforward, but nearly everyone just ends up building manifolds (ie: one splitter in front of each machine) after awhile

[grim estuary]

I did split for my 16 coal generators

[versed cosmos]

I use load balancing for things that only have a single input

[half briar]

so what do you have to do to make manifolds efficient

[versed cosmos]

and smart splitter manifolds for assemblers and the like

[versed cosmos]

wait

[grim estuary]

I was thinking about balancing, but my current coal rate was just too slow for me

[versed cosmos]

that's literally it you just give it time

[white dawn]

Make sure that you're supplying enough material for all the machines, and make sure that your belt speed supports that rate. Then wait! That's it.

[grim estuary]

I needed power

[white dawn]

If the machines need 120/min in total, and you're feeding them 120/min total on a mk2 belt, you're done. Just a bit of time for the machines to back up / fill up and you're golden

[half briar]

oh but like if i have 120 per minute, 8 machines needing 15 each, are the ones on the end still going to be able to get that?

[versed cosmos]

yes

[half briar]

i guess once its backed up

[versed cosmos]

exactly

[half briar]

its just hard to visualize in my head lol

[white dawn]

As I say, if you want to bypass the warmup time, you can pre-fill the buffers so that it happens basically right away

[half briar]

word

thanks guys

[versed cosmos]

the coal generators that come earlier in the manifold take more initially, but their internal storages fill up, the belt backs up, and overflow gets sent on to the later coal generators

[white dawn]

Yeah, just keep an eye on the input buffers as it warms up. You'll see the first machine fill up pretty quickly, then the next machine a little more slowly, and so on.

[whole ermine]

how do you see z height?

[white dawn]

The last two machines will end up having basically nothing in their input buffers, but they'll end up getting the material just in time to stay on all the time, once all the prior machines are filled up

[half briar]

i have like 2 hours on a world but its way too messy idk what i should do lol

its too much work to delete everything

[white dawn]

Just keep going and remember you can always build new factories instead of trying to keep expanding/rebuilding your existing stuff

[versed cosmos]

embrace spaghetti

[white dawn]

Even if your first factories are kind of shit they're probably still producing stuff, so let them produce stuff! Make more factories near a new set of nodes. :)

The map is huge, and there's way more resources on it than many people realize

[barren tulip]

hide in concrete

[versed cosmos]

the starting areas are all very rich in iron, copper, and limestone

even within your starting area youcan just build somewhere else

[white dawn]

It is very common for people to want to tear down and rebuild their first factories, of course, and if you want to do it, go for it! Just remember that that's a choice, not a necessity. You can always just wander off to greener (or redder, or purpler) pastures. :)

[half briar]

yea i guess i could just move, because im not going to keep going back there then

[true orchid]

Jesus dude, it takes more than three pumps to get through more than maybe 20 ft of pipe...?

[versed cosmos]

i told you earlier pumps do not increase flow rate

[barren tulip]

plus you can still take advantage of those nodes later in the game because of better miners and overclocking

[versed cosmos]

they only provide headlift

[half briar]

yea bro its not that ur doing smt else wrong

[white dawn]

Pumps provide "head lift," which just lets liquids go up higher. If you're having pipe problems, though, make a post in #1038092680493801533 with a lot of screenshots. Screenshots are basically always required to diagnose pipe problems

[true orchid]

No the extraxtor not pumps

Sorry

[versed cosmos]

extractors dont have a limited flow rate

or technically they do but it doesnt matter

[white dawn]

Heh, no worries, common mistake. But yeah, #1038092680493801533 is what you want. Screenshots are generally vital, and that's the best forum for 'em

[peak plank]

1 extractor can theoretically go an infinite distance

[versed cosmos]

pipes will pull resources out of buildings at their max flow rate

[true orchid]

One coal generator should be able to power 3 extractors no problem. Yet the breaker keeps blowing

[versed cosmos]

The coal generator is turning off probably

[true orchid]

I have 2, actually. Both have coal, both have water

[versed cosmos]

very strange

you really should post in #1038092680493801533

[crisp jetty]

I’m back on tha grind

Time to make some nuclear pasta

[fickle locust]

How much pasta you serving?

[coral marsh]

Dimensional depot mods are insane/ly helpful

[dusky flicker]

like?

[coral marsh]

Stack size

And upload speed

[dusky flicker]

yea less brain needed

[dusky flicker]

ah right

[coral marsh]

One of the stack mods let's you store upto 217 thousand of any item that stacks to 500 by itself

[dusky flicker]

hooly

[coral marsh]

The other one im using increases the max upload speed to that of a T6 belt, 1200p/min instead of just under a T3 belt at 240p/min

I do think the stack increases from 30+ should be more expensive though.

Especially the 2 100+ stack upgrades, they should require Ai expansion servers and quantum super computers

[lapis shadow]

Aren't the molded steel pipe/beam alt recipes pretty good since you can stretch your steel further with limestone which is everywhere?

[coral marsh]

Yup

Theyre a couple of the best alt recipes in the game

[hushed totem]

if you do end up deleting everything and rebuild don't sacrifice it or anything keep everything in storage even if it's technically not useful eventually it will be

[coral marsh]

Hmmm femboys

[hushed totem]

Yeah

[coral marsh]

Best breed of men

[hushed totem]

Fr

Honestly I've had more luck with men than women and it's funny

[coral marsh]

Im dating a woman who wants to become a guy.

Tis fun

Also, oops, not satis talk lol

[hushed totem]

Is it the worst or best of both worlds?

Oh yeah that's right servers have rules

[coral marsh]

Personally dont care, I love him for him and I wont say anything against it..

[hushed totem]

I'm not active in many large servers tbh just smaller ones that aren't really enforced

[coral marsh]

Yee

[hushed totem]

Yeah okay that makes sense

Anyways guys uh, plastic, kill me man I just made twenty refineries for it and it's still not enough

[coral marsh]

Recycled plastic if you have it

That alt should help

[hushed totem]

Yeah I'm doing that too

I'ma add 20 more refineries

[coral marsh]

Overclock if need be

[hushed totem]

Can't, because it's all maxed out

[coral marsh]

There's some pretty good oil nodes in a couple spots

[hushed totem]

I usually try and avoid overclocking and just build what I need

[coral marsh]

Blue crator and near the rocky desert

[hushed totem]

Yeah I'm at uhh

Like bottom right kinda

[coral marsh]

There is one "relatively" near the dune desert

[hushed totem]

There's like 6 or something oil nodes

[coral marsh]

Blue crator, bottomg right of the map

2 or 3 pure nodes there, very fun

[hushed totem]

Yeah it's pretty nice

[coral marsh]

Makes it one of the 2 best spots for fuel gens

[hushed totem]

Giving me like 24 gigawatts of power

Yepp I've put two of the nodes to work in just fuel gens

[coral marsh]

Yee

[hushed totem]

I've also done mega base however I'm eventually gonna move once I deplete all the resources and make all the stuff I can in the area

However I am still at the starting area and stuff

[coral marsh]

Since you're using fuel gens, you can use both alt plastic recipes to make more, residual and recycled, you just need water for the first and polymer resin, and fuel + rubber for the other one

[hushed totem]

Yeah I've done all that and it's not enough because I like making a fair bit of whatever I'm making

[coral marsh]

Im using mods but im gonna be going for 750 fuel gens on ionized fuel all at 250% OC

[hushed totem]

Good god

Doth thou even needeth that much power?

[coral marsh]

Yes

I need so much more

Im aiming for almost 15Tw of power

[peak plank]

I thought ionized fuel was less efficient

[hushed totem]

Holy hell

[coral marsh]

It is so much less

Im going for the challenge

[dense violet]

it makes less power than just the rocketfuel used yes

[still lion]

Hi, I know this chat isn't for this, but I have a save file that I edited with SCIM to quickly delete many factories, and I just realized that it actually left about three sinks bugged as ghosts, so I'm passively receiving points even though none of them are active. If anyone could help me, please.

[barren tulip]

that sounds like the opposite of a problem

[dense violet]

they have a discord link on their page 🙂 prob easier to ask there

[hushed totem]

I mean honestly that isn't much of a problem to me

[coral marsh]

Considering my ultimate endgame game goal is 20Twhr's of power storage, I need as close to 10-15Tw as I can get even if it means 5-10 fully powered up alien power augmentors

[hushed totem]

That's uh, quite a few sloops

[still lion]

Hahaha, it gives me the creeps, and the funniest thing is that it's less than 10k points per minute, but for some reason it bothers me to the point of wanting to start from scratch just because of that (it's a game from 2 years ago, I haven't done many things, but that game has already lasted 2 Christmases hahaha)

[coral marsh]

50-100

Basiclaly half of or all on the map

[hushed totem]

Man, it'd be so fun if you could Create sloops

[dense violet]

how so?

[hushed totem]

Because there fun and powerful

[dense violet]

just use more resources. you effectively can't use the whole map anyway w/o your computer catching on fire

or get a mod that doubles everything you make anyway

and have huge issues with byproducts

[hushed totem]

Console player here, can't get mods

[dense violet]

rip

[hushed totem]

PCs are too expensive

[dense violet]

use more resources then

because your console will explode before you can use everything

[hushed totem]

I mean honestly rarely am I running into resource issues I can't solve without just tripling my production

I mean I'm making like uhhh

[dense violet]

exactly. Sloops are basically jsut playing the game but then you decide on the outputs by typing in a number instead of making a plan.
Duping items is very silly.

[hushed totem]

3,840 nails per minute

It was a little annoying

These nails Should last me the entire playthrough

[open swallow]

nails?

[hushed totem]

Yes

Or screws or whatever it is

[open swallow]

Very different fasteners

[hushed totem]

Yeah I'm uh, a gamer, however given my, "hobbies" I should know that

[coral marsh]

There's a mod for it but its inefficient as fuck

[hushed totem]

Unfortunately, console

[coral marsh]

That sucks

Though, as I said, the mod recipe is inefficient as fk

[hushed totem]

Indeed, unfortunately also, PCs are stupidly expensive

[dense violet]

I mean you don't knwo what recipes you're going ot use in the future. There's options to never use screws again
it's why you don't future proof like that

also its very awkward to tranpsort screws. Often better off making them on location

[hushed totem]

Honestly it was required

Yeah, mega-base

Also, belts Everywhere

[dense violet]

yeah... make the screws when you need them.
again, you could jsut choose recipes that don't use screws. Cut them entirely from your world

[hushed totem]

Mostly organized the closer they get to the base

[dense violet]

you could have also used Steel Screws. Makes 3000 screws pm very easy

[hushed totem]

Yeah my steel is being held up making pipes, which are also being used alot

[fickle locust]

Steel screws is amazing. 5 beam turns into 260 screws

[coral marsh]

They are now, due to A I, fucking hate Nvidia for starting this AI bullshit

[hushed totem]

Two Mark 5 belts fully maxed out transportating steel

[coral marsh]

780×2, nice

[hushed totem]

Indeed, I always try and get my stuff to nearly maximum or slightly over

Man I love my hyper cannons

[peak plank]

They are very in control of the market. AMD and Intel really aint keepin up

[coral marsh]

I like that Amd isnt focusing heavily on AI

Its why im team red for life

[hushed totem]

Yk I love how Not using Ai is a marketing strategy now

[peak plank]

We need more competition for sure

[open swallow]

AMD packaged a local AI into Adrenalin, enabled by default, can be disabled when installing

[coral marsh]

I really hope Nvidia looses at least half of its net worth when the Ai bubble pops

Least Amd isnt putting much Ai in their Gpu's and arent focusing on ai investment

Ram prices shot up because of Nvidia and crucial

[hushed totem]

Yk didn't Duolingo market like Crash hardcore once they released they where gonna use ai?

[barren tulip]

indeed

[coral marsh]

Yup

Wall Street stock lost about 1 trillion about a year or two ago due to ai investment

[hushed totem]

Damn, noice

[coral marsh]

OpenAi is projected to go bankrupt by 2027

[hushed totem]

Honestly could go faster it'd be nicer

[coral marsh]

Yup

Honestly I dont like that the mods of this server allow any type of Ai into it, management bots are fine, but any type of generative Ai should be 100% banned

[peak plank]

Pandoras box is open. Dont expect AI to go anywhere 😂

[hushed totem]

Yk I think my hyper cannons are a Little too hyper

Game frozen

[coral marsh]

If i ever ran and managed my own public and popular server, I would be so incredibly fkin strict on the "no ai" rule that any and all first instances to post any generative ai media would result in a no warnings, instant perma ban from said server

[hushed totem]

Oh fuck I hoped it auto saved

Oh lessgo it unfroze

[peak plank]

This server has pretty strict rules concerning AI compared to most

[barren tulip]

i remember turning off fog for hypercannon transport but it seems like fog has been toned down at some point

[coral marsh]

Still i dont see any repercussions implemented on people who still decide to post generative ai media

[peak plank]

Ive not seen anyone post any personally

[coral marsh]

I have in #off-topic-media

Most common one is that ai gif of a kid having his mouth open wide af and a universe moves behind him

[peak plank]

I personally dont care that much. I was assuming there was a legal reason for it

[coral marsh]

I care

So much, because my Bf is an artist, my best friend, is an artist also and I respect those artists with actual talent

[barren tulip]

#screenshots message if you ride the cargo thing and you have the space elevator above you then you can hit the space elevator platform and the speed will be redirected horizontally for a rather rudimentary and extremely situational form of transport

[peak plank]

I wish all the other times careers were automated out through history got the same level of sympathy as artists 😂 its interesting their case is uniquely felt by people

[coral marsh]

I have deep respect for engineers, hardware engineers

The jobs that cannot be taken over by Ai

[peak plank]

There are artists who cant be replaced by AI as well

[coral marsh]

Yea

[peak plank]

Software engineers just spent the last decade automating themselves out of work honestly. Tech companies are so much more lean now

[coral marsh]

Ik

I have absolutely zero respect for AI

[peak plank]

Its another tool that will inevitably be adopted and implemented within society.

It will create something akin to Moore's law, its potential is unreal.

[silent pagoda]

what is the maximum incline for laden 1-7 trains

or if you don't know, how can i work it out

[minor sapphire]

guys, i really need some help

[limpid iron]

realistically the 2m double ramps

I think they're about a 3% grade which is the recommended maximum IRL

[minor sapphire]

do you know about the bug of the achivment Efficiency first?

[limpid iron]

tbh I think milestones are def bugged, I didn't get the onboarding one even though I fully completed it (im in phase 4 now)

[silent pagoda]

brilliant thanks, better than i expected

definitely more than 3% tho but yeah

[limpid iron]

o yeah I miscalculated

lemme go calculate the entire incline I have on my rails

[fickle locust]

Rocket fuel is so silly

[limpid iron]

I think the 2m double ramp is 25%

[silent pagoda]

yeah that looks right

[barren tulip]

jetpack go fwoosh

[limpid iron]

I want to get them, do you have to do the tier 8 milestone for emtpy fluid tanks or can you find some at a harddrive site?

[limpid iron]

1m rise over 4m run ya

[fickle locust]

When you say fluid tanks do you mean packaged fuel? You can find regular packaged fuel at crash sites but I don't think there's packaged rocket fuel anywhere

[limpid iron]

no just the fluid tanks, you need them for MAM reserach sadly

[barren tulip]

you also need them to contain the fuel if you wanna use for jetpack

[limpid iron]

true

I probably won't bother with ionized fuel, isn't rocket fuel good enough

[fickle locust]

Oh I see what you mean, the ones made of aluminum

[leaden matrix]

Nothing is good enough
The factory must expand

[fickle locust]

I didn't find any of them at crash sites

[limpid iron]

factual information

[barren tulip]

imo rocket fuel is adequate for most uses

[swift turret]

once you use ionized you cant go back

I got addicted to it once I used like 200 powershards

[limpid iron]

oh yeah, for block signals, its best to have the entire incline/slope as a single block so trains dont stop on an incline

[limpid iron]

I have 468 power shards sitting in my inventory after collecting many power slugs

[swift turret]

cool funfact I guess

[barren tulip]

first time i used ionized i thought it was kinda meh

[swift turret]

nah its long lasting like bio and rises you high like rocket

I love using it

[limpid iron]

aren't the returns on efficiency pretty diminished at that point though for fuel gens

[barren tulip]

for jetpack fuel not fuel generators

[dense violet]

it's negative return

[limpid iron]

yeah its better to just make more rocket fuel than to produce more ionised fuel right

[dense violet]

well you get more power.
but I wouldn't use either for power

[barren tulip]

i might be wrong but iirc the rocket fuel has more thrust so i use them

[swift turret]

rocket is better for gens ion is better for jetpack

rocket is useful until you automate powershards

[reef basin]

I wouldn't bother with rocket fuel, normal fuel is enough

[limpid iron]

gulp

[swift turret]

greeny appreantly likes playing in hardcore

[dense violet]

or nuclear. More interesting and far fewer generaotrs needed

[reef basin]

No, I like to not spam 100000 gens. Do normal fuel until nuclear, then nuclear

[limpid iron]

I personally just want to maximise the use of all my oil

[swift turret]

did they ban emojis bruh

[indigo kiln]

Am I correct in thinking that water is the only infinite resource?

[limpid iron]

I love having an absurd amount of overclocked gens though

[dense violet]

then use something that is only good for power and use oil for plubber 😛

[reef basin]

Everything is infinite

[indigo kiln]

What

[dense violet]

nodes don't run out

[indigo kiln]

I mean like per minute

[reef basin]

That's also limited for water

[dense violet]

there's still a limit to how many water extractors yo ucan place

[silent pagoda]

water is not infinite either then

[swift turret]

ooo cobalt has me blocked

[indigo kiln]

Ahhh didn't know that

[dense violet]

but you're unlikely to run out of any resource PM unless you're really trying to use it all

[barren tulip]

rocket fuel allows you to get away with a lot of bullshit, it's awesome

[native tapir]

Why is there a limit???

[silent pagoda]

because the map is limited

[reef basin]

What?

[indigo kiln]

I imagine to make sure they don't destroy computers, or that one guy that broke the game

[silent pagoda]

you will never hit the limit, unless you are specifically trying to

[indigo kiln]

Let's game it out I think

[swift turret]

wdym what listen closely

[dense violet]

it's just fuel with extra steps and a million generators

[reef basin]

To what?

[swift turret]

idk

[barren tulip]

fly real high real fast

[silent pagoda]

there isn't a limit hardcoded, it's just a matter of limited space

[native tapir]

Woah woah what's the limit on water extractors??

[swift turret]

at least 2

[dense violet]

surface space of water

[reef basin]

We're talking about using it for power tho

[barren tulip]

you can eventually exhaust every last bit of space for them

[native tapir]

Oh if it's just limited space that's a non-issue. You can bypass that super easy

[barren tulip]

oh

[native tapir]

I have water extractors all over lmao.

[dense violet]

? there's still a limit unless you mod

[native tapir]

No mods

[dense violet]

there's still a limit

[native tapir]

No there isnt

[dense violet]

or use exploits

[limpid iron]

its just a simulation limit right

[native tapir]

I have water extractors in space in vanilla so we're good lol

[dense violet]

no, there's just only a certain amount of water surface area on the map for extractors xD

[barren tulip]

space too

[swift turret]

run a 4090 then theres no longer a limit :evil:

[dense violet]

yeah exploits. Even dumber. You can't make that argument saying it's infinite if you rely on exploits

[limpid iron]

right, I thought you were meaning theres a limit on the just the number of extractors

[native tapir]

Exploits are vanilla

[barren tulip]

there's a maximum amount of water extractors due to limited space

[dense violet]

anyway, back to reality where you can't just make an argument about the game that centres on exploits or mods

[native tapir]

Coffee stain has infinite wisdom and left them as gifts for us to seek

[barren tulip]

wouldn't space eventually run out of space as well?

[native tapir]

I mean....by that logic we should not be making curves with roads either @dense violet

[nova ridge]

is there a way to prevent backflow in pipes

[swift turret]

you would be long dead before you ever fill so a win is a win I guess

[limpid iron]

is there any way to view the Y coordinate of the player or an object?

[native tapir]

You'll have to draw me a line where vanilla ends and "exploits" begin

[swift turret]

go forward

[nova ridge]

?

[native tapir]

For me, physics started to break down a few million miles up. That's where my space station is

[dense violet]

mods

[native tapir]

On PC you can view coords without mods

[limpid iron]

alr, I'll have a gander in the mod manager

[native tapir]

Hit tilde and type showdebug

@limpid iron

[barren tulip]

i wish showdebug radiationspheres worked in normal world

[limpid iron]

thanks

[native tapir]

So yeah water extractors in space. Now I am wondering what the limit is

Currently working on my space train so not gonna have time to find out myself.

[limpid iron]

weird how the Z value is the vertical value :/

[swift turret]

When backflow happens you go forward. When you trip backwards you go forward

basic art and science

[native tapir]

Don't valves still prevent backflow?

[native tapir]

What else would it be in 3d?

[limpid iron]

the Y value ?

[native tapir]

Not in 3d

[limpid iron]

2d is X and Z

[native tapir]

What in the world

[limpid iron]

huh

maybe theyre just interchangeable

[swift turret]

I think the 2 AI bots got confused

[native tapir]

Spiderman meme

(if I am an AI bot, I have been programmed not to know it and to have human memories)

[swift turret]

probably coded by coffeestain to ragebait

[native tapir]

I'm not rage baiting lol

Do you think I don't have a vanilla space station?

[limpid iron]

oh ok its just because unreal engine uses Z for vertical

[silent pagoda]

z is always vertical, no?

[native tapir]

I mean, again it's possible. But they would have coded me not to know it lol

[silent pagoda]

except in minecraft 🤣

[native tapir]

And in statistics

[reef basin]

Reslly depends how you define it

[native tapir]

Well greeny we could say that of anything

[silent pagoda]

you mean 2d?

[limpid iron]

its context dependent

[reef basin]

Not on your screen 🙂 x/y is horizontal/vertical, z is depth

[swift turret]

Z is depth

[native tapir]

Usually in 2d it's y that is "up"

But in stats sometimes they talk about z as "up." I am thinking of it in terms of one specific thing at my job tho

[limpid iron]

which is normally why Y is vertical in game engines, except Z is the vertical in satisfactory

[silent pagoda]

weird then, i guess it does depend

[native tapir]

I have never heard of Z being anything but vertical in 3d. But I assume I haven't heard of a lot of things

[minor sapphire]

someone can help me with a bug of a achievement please?

[drowsy kelp]

I mean at least we don’t have X as up-down

[swift turret]

sure let me just become a steam employee and learn their engine

😎

[native tapir]

What's the issue

[native tapir]

This is actually driving me crazy lol

Some real sophistry at work there Gorgias

[hushed totem]

Welp my starter mega-base has been depleted to yield about 7.5 supercomputers per minute

Plus all the pre-requisites, and a Little extra few things that I produce mass amounts of

I'ma move to da desert

[minor sapphire]

i have a problem with the "Efficiency first" because he says 41/42 but i already unlocked every milestone. I used achivement.me to see but he says some miles that dont have sense and i dont make the first phase.

[native tapir]

Console?

[minor sapphire]

no, i am using steam

[stuck dagger]

Could it be you're missing the tutorial

I vaguely remember the tutorial counting as a milestone so if you skipped it you have to make a new game to get the completion

[limpid iron]

good news, my entire rail up the hill is 11.2% grade
120m rise
1002m run

[whole drum]

Anything under 30% and you're just not trying

[minor sapphire]

I am making him again

[stoic laurel]

when your game says you had a fuse blow, but everything is still running

[swift turret]

you likely had a temporary bio setup

or a different power grid not connected to your main one

[stoic laurel]

forgot i had my biofuel reactors

but my biofuel reactors is attached to my main grid and isnt running atm

[stoic laurel]

it could be my fuel gens since im overhauling everything from the beginning to use alt recipes

[swift turret]

either or

[nova ridge]

man wtf i got a kmode error and then my computer had to restart

[barren tulip]

i got a fuse blow when i tried powering a hypertube enterance from a biomass burner, i'm still confused on why that is

2 bio burners on triple overclock did the trick though

[stoic laurel]

just one entrance?

[barren tulip]

just one

[stoic laurel]

thats crazy

[barren tulip]

they only consume like 10MW of power or something yet it would fuse blow

[true mulch]

Hoverpack perchance

[barren tulip]

oh shit you might be right lol

i did not even consider that

[nova ridge]

the hidden expense

sudden BSOD after over 100 hours of play pisses me off

[reef basin]

good guy autosave

[valid timber]

Is it worth it to automate rotors before completing phase 1/right at the start of phase 2 or should I wait till I've unlocked some o the goop from phase 2

[silent pagoda]

it is always worth it to automate everything

[valid timber]

im aware of that

[silent pagoda]

even xeno-zappers

[valid timber]

ykw nvm ill figure it out

[barren tulip]

maybe not xeno zappers

[silent pagoda]

especially xeno-zappers

[barren tulip]

portable miners on the other hand

[reef basin]

if you need something, automate that

[fluid crow]

when can we automate the production of factory carts

[barren tulip]

fr

[swift turret]

Automated everything you need

Don't be like me and rush it then suddenly youre spending 30 hours playing catch up

[queen slate]

I’m in the same boat lol

[swift turret]

Yeah for me it was easier to restart

I couldn't figure out my complex train network and using signals

[barren tulip]

reject train signals, adopt train loop

[swift turret]

It was complicated because I made a figure 8 but it had another loop which made a design I cant say

But the 8 also had a tumor since I had to grab some iron nearby

So then train signals just stopped working at that point

[silent pagoda]

do priority mergers use more ups than regular mergers?

and is there a place i can get this information on all splitters

[reef basin]

hard to say, why are you asking?

[silent pagoda]

because i will need to use a LOT of these for my next build, priority mergers would be marginally better but i don't want to risk performance over a small benefit

[ruby jay]

In CAD world SolidWorks default has been Y-up since 1995. 2025 they introduced option to use Z-up as default coordinates

[frosty mirage]

Is there any difference between plastic and residual plastic in terms of end product? Or is only the recipe to get it different?

[silent pagoda]

only the recipe is different

[barren tulip]

plastic is plastic

[frosty mirage]

I figured, but wanted to make sure

I unlocked oil and its crazy

Wrapping my head around everything new

[patent hamlet]

I'm trying to bring oil to the dessert via pipes, but i just can't. I'm using the pumps, but in some points the oil is just...not flowing?

[silent pagoda]

try packaging it maybe?

on a belt, pipes are weird

[reef basin]

what is the project?

[reef basin]

process the oil where it is. Though long pipes should be fine when built properly

[reef basin]

the "residual plastic" is a name of a recipe, not name of the product

[dusky hedge]

without knowing anything for sure, i would have to say yes, but its likely the same a a splitter with one lane blocked, something is calculating which lanes are allowed to flow when certain criteria are met.

[patent hamlet]

i think it's time to learn trains it seems

[short fiber]

Good news! I made it past the filter. I completed phase 2!

[silent pagoda]

yeah that was my thought process

[barren tulip]

maybe try pumping it up to an altitude higher than any bumps you might encounter then just pipe them straight?

[silent pagoda]

i thought the filter was phase 3

[barren tulip]

every phase is a filter more dense than the last

[short fiber]

What. That....that wasn't the filter.

[patent hamlet]

that's what i tried, but at half the size of the turret...it stopped flowing

[barren tulip]

just no oil or like that loading animation?

[patent hamlet]

Just no oil

[silent pagoda]

it's my understanding that adaptive control units are what's usually called the filter

[patent hamlet]

Like I've a pipe filled with oil, a pump, and then next pipe is dry

[reef basin]

or not move oil 🙂

[barren tulip]

strange, try finding the last pipeline with oil in it and then delete and replace it

[short fiber]

...oh no...what. What is that crafting recipe??

Why is it so long

[reef basin]

that's functionally equal to just putting pumps where needed

[patent hamlet]

just move plastic?

[barren tulip]

welcome to satisfactory

[reef basin]

no, produce final product near oil

[silent pagoda]

you'll get there, one step at a time

[patent hamlet]

i guess

liquids were weird 3 years ago, seems it's the only thing that can't made completly right man

Well, thanks for the advice!

[barren tulip]

liquids have been treating me well on my latest world, not that much issues

[reef basin]

nah, they were the same as they are now, pretty fine, unless you think about them wrong

[hushed totem]

Fucking hell, I didn't Actually connect a Single belt and now I can't produce any cablea

Just Lovely

Oh and of course it's a blueprint design issue too

[dense violet]

Make a post about any design issues you're having with it - there's simple ways to manage pipes

[rugged jasper]

I just unlocked tier 7 and 8, any good tips so I start of best in this new phase ?

[reef basin]

did you download a bad blueprint from the internet? 😄

[hushed totem]

Nope, I did a dumbassery of my own

Plus I'm on console so idk if I could download anything

[stuck dagger]

Complexity goes up a buttload, I think more than half my playtime alone is on phase 4

[hushed totem]

Uhhh, power, your gonna want Alot of it I currently have 25,000MW and it's very soon about to not be enough, and make stuff as optimized as possible, and make Alot of it

[rugged jasper]

I better be careful with what I am doing 😄

[stuck dagger]

Honestly, you can still start small and dirty

[hushed totem]

I'm also currently on tier 7 and 8 and just finished tier 7

[stuck dagger]

Make the most slapdash aluminium setup to start

[barren tulip]

i think 60k mw is a good target to shoot for

[hushed totem]

Oh god man mine is so bad it's actually hilarious

[rugged jasper]

I think I have made it a lot better already, I have spend the last 40 hours optimizing all materials ^^
maybe I need to do more at some point 😄

[rugged jasper]

noted ^^

[hushed totem]

I mean honestly if you spent 40 hours optimizing yeah your probably good tbh on that front, but aluminum and cateruim get important stupidly fast

[stuck dagger]

Aluminium needs baux, coal and water at absolute minimum

[hushed totem]

I made the mistake of not caring about cateruim and had to throw together the shittiest cateruim set-up known to mankind

[dense violet]

you can cut caterium to basically only AI limiters if you want. Barely need a drop

[rugged jasper]

I just unlocked it, I hope it is not too difficult to figure out how it all works 😄

[hushed totem]

Eh, it's more just a mild annoyance after a bit

[hushed totem]

Honestly I don't really take advantage of the hard drives enough

[barren tulip]

one single caterium node in the middle of my factory 🙏

[reef basin]

bauxite, water and any black rock

[stuck dagger]

ah right, petcoke

[rugged jasper]

Thank you guys for info, I will go back in-game and try to figure out how to make a good alu factory

[hushed totem]

I think the only alternative recipe I actually use is for the uhh, encased industrial beam and it's just pipes instead of beams

[barren tulip]

i've used a bunch, from cast screws to uranium fuel units

[hushed totem]

Oof ja uranium looks to be a nightmare to try and set-up honestly

I wish for at least 10 power plants

[stuck dagger]

I'm taking so long in phase 4 that I have all the alts and a few hard drives left over

[arctic shard]

you use the base recepie for HMF as well?

[dense violet]

alt recipes are the bread and butter of the game

[barren tulip]

i got an 80 plant setup and it's still spooling

[hushed totem]

What?

Idk what hmf is

[barren tulip]

plenty of supply issues and manufacturing mishaps on the line plus horribly long propagation times

[barren tulip]

heavy modular frames

[arctic shard]

heavy modular frames

[hushed totem]

Yeah

Because I'm making like, 5k screws a minute

[arctic shard]

every recepie that eliminates screws is a must