satisfactory

[feral jay]

Neither do I.

[reef basin]

well, there goes one troll to block list I guess..

[rugged jasper]

it is fine ❤️

[feral jay]

I'm pretty sure that was in jest

[reef basin]

it wasn't just based on that one message

[placid stirrup]

Was that the same person from a couple days ago?

[rugged jasper]

he is so grumpy, and not open for anything new.
it is fine he blocked me if that makes him feel better ❤️

[mortal ginkgo]

ya all arguing who or what yet noone knows the true factory growth comes from tapping impure limestone nodes.

I am smh furiously as you all read this

ya all silly goobers

[reef basin]

no idea tbh. But if they want to just be annoying me on purpose, then I see no reason to read their msgs

[pine shell]

That's because you have to put so many slugs into an impure limestone miner that the miner itself turns into a particle accelerator

[placid stirrup]

He does have a lot of hours in and behind the scenes of the game. There are tons of play styles for the game itself, if his is different than yours it doesn't mean he knows nothing

[reef basin]

I wouldn't describe "using a thing that shouldn't be used" as a playstyle tbh

[feral jay]

To be fair, "shouldn't be used" is subjective. As long as people don't insist on using them when they're asking for help and the first advice is "remove valves and buffers", I'm generally happy to entertain the argument

[rugged jasper]

With that said, I say give space to all with different ideas than his.
Idc how many hours he have in this game, tbh. 🙂
he is grumpy, and maybe he should just logout and return when he got some sleep maybe 🙂

[reef basin]

fair, though my issue is more with the "it works for me so I'm gonna recommend to everyone, contrary to how bad they generally are" attitude

[feral jay]

Absolutely, I agree with that. People shot NOT be giving advice to newcomers and telling them to use valves and buffers.

[zealous urchin]

impure, tapped, overclocked 250%, working with max efficiency

[reef basin]

combine that with them calling me names and such and you have a nice recipe for a block 🤷

anyway, back to factorying

[feral jay]

Yes, I just isolated my trains on their own circuit (previously had them on the drone circuit which I'm not using yet), now I need to build a battery backup for them so I can isolate that circuit

To the blueprint designer I go (/whistles a jaunty tune)

[placid stirrup]

Sometimes it's hard to read inflection and tone over text, it always pays to keep an open mind. No problem with playing the game how you like!

[rugged jasper]

you do great ! 🙌

[feral jay]

Yes there is. Every way except my way is the wrong way, and that's that.

[queen slate]

U give good advice and are helpful, people who do that don’t know how to ask a question that the answer isn’t an opinion (like me sometimes)

[placid stirrup]

That's not playing the game though, that's telling others how to play. Different topic/strawman approach

[feral jay]

That was a joke ❤️

Sometimes I suck at jokes

[zealous urchin]

wrong

[placid stirrup]

Haha fair enough, case in point about tone over text. Just trying to quell the animosity as well

[zealous urchin]

jokes suck at you

[placid stirrup]

What stage in the game are you at?

[rugged jasper]

I try 😄 but atm I rebuild more than progressing hehe.
as I want the first level to be the most effective to feed the higher tiers 🙂

[feral jay]

I spend an absolutely stupid amount of time stringing power lines and debugging power grids

[rugged jasper]

I am at 3, and can complete it in 5 mins, but I try to boost everything first to max , before going to the next step

[placid stirrup]

Haha yeah that's a tough loop to break through. After my first couple play throughs I mostly abandoned or completely repurposed old factories instead of optimizing them at each tier

[rugged jasper]

power is np for me, as I turned it off 🤭

[reef basin]

that's often when many people burn out, and hence why I generally recommend against it (it = optimising/rebuilding factories)

just leave stuff to work and build new stuff. You spend less time to have more production 🙂

[rugged jasper]

I may turn it on when I unlock the highest tier of power. 🙂

[feral jay]

lol if I didn't actually enjoy debugging and tracking down isidious problems, I'd suck at my job

And optimizing

[rugged jasper]

it is your game, you can do whatever you want ❤️

it is my first time, so I do play in easy mode ^^
maybe next playthrough I will understand everything better, and do it in normal mode.
but first time, I want it to be easy so I can learn basics

[frosty mirage]

I did 1000 versatile framework without a factory thinking I am done aftwr phase 2, then phase 3 needs 2500

Fck my life, time to put everything on paper and start working on better factories

[rugged jasper]

you can use Somersloop on the end machines to make it 2x faster ^^

[dusky hedge]

free app on steam satisfactory modeler, its pretty good

[frosty bloom]

Well, the game gives all the numbers you need...

Games gives a calculator, like windows does, and phones gives one too. Use them for your advantange.

[clear mesa]

Man...I'm dreading having to place these fuel generators...

[ornate saffron]

Many fuel generators make much energy.

[clear mesa]

250GW to be exact

😞

[ornate saffron]

If it helps you can fit 4 on a mark2 blueprinter

[clear mesa]

really? i haven't bothered to try since im still processing the turbo into rocket fuel

ill play around with that later then

[dusky hedge]

nitro rocket fuel recipe

[clear mesa]

don't have the alt

unfortunately

[fast ruin]

Me: Land cluelessly on a natural platform to refuel my jet pack
Suddent 3 alpha stinger + a dozen of small one jumpscare.

Jump on the pillar 20m away
Double Elite gas stinger jumpscare

[placid stirrup]

@frosty mirage satisfactory Tools online is preferred by the player base (pinned in #math-and-meta )

[dusky hedge]

i dont like how it does all the work for me, im the pioneer

[placid stirrup]

Totally fine! I just like how easy it is to tweak inputs and recipes

[pine thistle]

how do i prioritize fluids from 1 input

am doing aluminium

[leaden matrix]

40,000 humble coal generators >

[feral jay]

You don't, there's no remotely simple way to do that without relying on esoteric game glitches

It's possible, but all the methods I'm aware of rely on glitches that could be fixed in the future

[dusky hedge]

if you can have your loop back junction flat, they have even priority, then you have a valve stopping your extractors from filling the loop back and all will be fine

[feral jay]

What I do is feed the water from the scrap refineries back into the other end of the manifold feeding the solution refineries

[fast ruin]

prayge for 1.2

[feral jay]

So I'm not prioritizing any one source over the other

[pine thistle]

can you explain this " then you have a valve stopping your extractors from filling the loop back and all will be fine"

[dusky hedge]

tehe loop back pipe from scrap to alumina needs to have space in it or everything blocks up, a valve can stop the inlet from extractors from filling it up

[feral jay]

Do not use valves. They WILL create more problems than they solve (assuming this your first time doing this)

[dusky hedge]

they serve a purpose and serve it well

[feral jay]

They can, but giving advice to new players telling them to use valves is bad advice

[dusky hedge]

not so

if they understand what a valve does they will be fine

[feral jay]

Avoid valves at all costs. Do not come to #1038092680493801533 with valves, because the first advice is ALWAYS "remove buffers and valves"

[pine thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1462869268965101578

how about this setup, valve is going into the refineries so the buffer won't fill up from the extractors

[hot burrow]

i think uhhh

cast screws

[spare cradle]

No valves, and no buffers.

[rugged jasper]

after 12 hour game session I think it's time to make dinner 😊
have fun you all ❤️

[leaden matrix]

My favorite

[sick falcon]

i wish you could topple the titan trees with enough explosives

like avatar

[feral jay]

I like that you can build stuff inside them, adds a fun little element to the game

[whole ermine]

if you delete a blueprint from the menu can you still copy and paste it with the dismantle tool

[feral jay]

Heh, I've never tried that

[unborn moss]

You'll keep needing space elevator parts throughout the game, to make the next parts.

[sick falcon]

whys the satisfactory interactive map website solid black

nvm just website being stupid

[quasi warren]

i never used the tractors and trucks before, should I use them? if so, how?

[granite dome]

It’s better to use trains 80% of the time

[scenic mirage]

use them if you want 🙂 you can find guides for recording routes and stuff on youtube

[quasi warren]

i made a new save, tiers 3 and 4 i have unlocked, just got the tractors. Ive always just used conveyor belts in my saves

[clear mesa]

Only time i've ever used tractors is to route coal from a node to a power plant

[feral jay]

I used them once or twice just to say I did, then quickly realized why I never used them

[scenic mirage]

dont sleep on factory carts 🔥

[near siren]

ok im really getting frustrated with this power issue, i have more than enough power but it keeps tripping and not giving me info why it is tripping out

[dusky hedge]

can you sleep in them?

[whole drum]

Or with them?

[scenic mirage]

sleep?

im not familiar with the term

[feral jay]

I find the vehicle pathfinding system to be absolutely horrible and the whole node system to be extremely clunky

[near siren]

we need a stat page about power stations , their needs and output etc and more importantly why they cut out if they do

[feral jay]

Now if they added roads to the game, and vehicles could reliably pathfind on those, I'd use them a LOT more often

[dusky hedge]

imagine its ada driving and shes talking to herself the whole way

[scenic mirage]

you have roads, theyre called foundations

[sick falcon]

how is compacted steel ingot ever worth using? 10/minute is insanely slow

[whole drum]

This is why a lot of people don't bother with vehicles, except trains/drones.

[whole drum]

She's driving while drunk on SAM juice

[scenic mirage]

then dont use it 🙂

[feral jay]

No, I mean actual roads, that vehicles use to calculate paths, and that I can restrict vehicles to, without this dumb node system

So like rails, but a different kind of foundation instead

[scenic mirage]

foundations work just fine tho

just gotta learn the system

[sick falcon]

i dont intend to, im just wondering if theres any use case for it

[feral jay]

Not if I have to add those ridiculous nodes

[whole drum]

It gives a better iron:steel ratio

[zealous urchin]

didnt know this side of ada

[lapis shadow]

Just noticed that when zip-lining on a dead power line, there's still electricity arcing everywhere; UNPLAYABLE

[sick falcon]

friction

[sick falcon]

ah so its for the players who are making 10 billion steel a minute

[whole drum]

Basically

[feral jay]

Put a detailed question in #1038092680493801533 , power problems like that can be difficult to diagnose, and the conversation will get lost in here. I'm sure someone can help.

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ just gotta learn the system. theres nothing wrong w them, you can build road networks. i did it with aluminum

[whole drum]

It makes a little more sense too if you have just one Black Powder machine leech off the CC line to fill a box too.

[feral jay]

No, there's nothing wrong with them, I just don't like them. I find the entire system to be kludgy and obtuse.

I've used trucks before, didn't like them, so didn't use them again

[scenic mirage]

also valid 🤷‍♂️

[whole drum]

I literally only used a truck to get the achievement, lol

[zealous urchin]

train is just so powerful

[feral jay]

They do take up a lot of real estate tho

[scenic mirage]

wait until you discover the true power of factory carts

[dusky hedge]

trucks remind me of autonauts

and tractors

[zealous urchin]

do not cite the forbidden lore to me since i was there when it was written

[feral jay]

LMFAO I love that line. I'm stealing it.

My other favorite is "I am not afraid of the dark, as I existed before the light."

[indigo kiln]

Now that I have coal running my biofuel leftovers is lasting an incredible amount of time Am I insane or they just not turning on

[whole drum]

They only activate when there is demand for it

[feral jay]

They're not turning on. Bioburners only consume fuel if there isn't enough power from other sources, and then only consume as much as they need to. They scale their output according to demand, and they're the only power generators that do that.

[sterile blade]

Like bio-powered power storages

[indigo kiln]

Ohhh sick

[indigo kiln]

It appears I've accidentally done that

[dusky hedge]

i had 20 g bwfore i tore down my bios

[indigo kiln]

So is the capacity with everything running or everything other than bio running?

[whole drum]

It's actually not a bad idea to disconnect them from your main grid and save them to jump start a plant if your power goes out

[surreal ingot]

i wish i could use packaged fuel in a chainsaw, or turbofuel to make it saw faster

[indigo kiln]

I was lazy and put my coal directly on top of my bio

[near siren]

just done that now

[dusky hedge]

i assume it counts the bio

[feral jay]

I've built a few massive bioburner backup facilities with all my stockpiled liquid biofuel, I keep dreaming about building a giant one in the shape of a gargantuan bioburner

[sterile blade]

I like to do that for almost every powerplant, anytime I make a new one with new tech

[whole drum]

• Production = Power Output
• Capacity = Power Output if everything that produces power in network was running (not idle)
• Consumption = Power Being Used right now
• Max Consumption = Power Used if every machine in network was running (not idle)

[near nacelle]

is there a way to put in alternative recipes as an input into satisfactory tools website, for example im trying to make motors but im using the alternate screw recipe, how do i pput the alternate screws into the visualizer on the website

[indigo kiln]

Starting to regret mixing my only iron factory and only steel factory into one building

[feral jay]

Yeah, on the recipes tab, although you often need to disable the vanilla recipe also

[near nacelle]

thanks

[fast ruin]

me testing how bad it is to sloop a particle accelerator

[whole drum]

Easy solution: Make more factory.

[indigo kiln]

THE FACT MUST GROW

Fuck you autocorrect

[pine thistle]

satisfactory modeler on steam is really convenient

[indigo kiln]

Quick question what is the way to invert the hot bar selecting, like scroll wheel up makes the hot bar number go down I want to reverse that

[near nacelle]

is that mp supported?

[pine thistle]

you can import and export, but ive never done it

[scenic mirage]

scroll the other way?

[indigo kiln]

Brain no likey

[feral jay]

THere's an option under settings->controls somewhere

[sick falcon]

do you guys prefer alloy, pure, or leached ingots

[indigo kiln]

I can't find it

Oh my god there's a search bar

Is there just a search bar for every list?

I keep finding quality of life shit that really needs a like a whole document

[feral jay]

"hotbar swapping scroll direction, under General

[pine thistle]

pure i guess, water is free

[indigo kiln]

Like smart splitters being able to copy and paste before going inside their UI is awesome

[scenic mirage]

you can copy paste everything

[indigo kiln]

Really?

[scenic mirage]

you can also middle click to clone and itll place w that recipe set

and any sloops or shards

[indigo kiln]

Yoooo what

Whoever is in charge of the quality of life thing needs like seven raises

[sick falcon]

you can do that??? thats sick

[dusky hedge]

you can also replace splitters with different type holding control

that was a huge help fo me

[indigo kiln]

Yeah just look at it after you set your first one and then basic copy and paste buttons

[whole drum]

Especially for placing Prio-Mergers, amirite?

[sick falcon]

just press e while building to swap any building between types

[whole drum]

It'll even copy the paint job

[dusky hedge]

dont get me started on the value of proiority mergers

[indigo kiln]

........ Placing walls just got so much easier

[dusky hedge]

i want an island of priority merged items

[indigo kiln]

I'm going to be so for real I forgot about the painting, I painted shit "red or do not touch this dumbass" and then proceeded to keep default colors for everything I have massive orange towers right now

[pine thistle]

is 5 RCU and 5 Supercomputer/min good enough for the game

or do i need to ball out

[quasi warren]

Finally made coal power plant in new save

[indigo kiln]

You could ball out for no reason other than balling out

[quasi warren]

I no longer need my 70000 leaves

[dusky hedge]

leave them?

[indigo kiln]

Dibs

[whole drum]

Yeah, there are other design choices than just color...
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1456611171401601261

[indigo kiln]

I know but so far all of my tickets have gone to utility items not look items

I did just buy signs though, only to realize I don't have enough courts to place even one

[whole drum]

NBA letting you down again, eh?

[indigo kiln]

Yeah That's pretty normal im 5'5 🤣

[whole drum]

Short King

[pine thistle]

#screenshots message
comments on this ressource distribution

for aluminium

[whole drum]

Some of you may die... but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

[whole drum]

Bro didn't even look at the SS tho, lol

[indigo kiln]

I did I'm doing something similar hold on

[quasi warren]

I showed spacepolice how much leaves I have XD

[indigo kiln]

If that was anything other than leaves you would be rich

[dusky hedge]

you can do all that in an outpost to keep your main page for outposts

[indigo kiln]

@whole drum give me a bit gathering screenshots

#screenshots message

Tallest one is steel and iron middle one is mass resource storage, The third one is copper and concrete

The third one also just has a resource bus going across its roof lol

[whole drum]

Eventually you will make stuff that isn't just orange boxes
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461436150551154751

[unkempt blade]

They're beautiful but they get my normal feedback of "needs more colors"

[scenic mirage]

i remember my orange box phase 😥

[indigo kiln]

Good point maybe I should paint my biggest one black 😉

I'll probably end up doing black blue red like I always do in games

[unkempt blade]

I like spewing rainbows everywhere #screenshots message

[whole drum]

I went from No Foundation to Orange Box Theory to Sky Platforms (still partially here) to proper buildings with architectural flair (partially here as well).

[indigo kiln]

I expected rainbow puke but that's actually pretty cool

How did you paint not in squares?

[whole drum]

He has that too

[scenic mirage]

most of my factories are just open and flat

[unkempt blade]

you mean like #screenshots message or #screenshots message

[whole drum]

Yup

[indigo kiln]

😂

[unkempt blade]

I can't help it I love colorful stuff #screenshots message

[scenic mirage]

oh hell yeah

[indigo kiln]

That is fucking awesome

I feel like exploring your world would be an absolute rainbow fever

Tripping acid going through your hypertubes

[unkempt blade]

yeah I play with friends who I characterize as "led desktop PC" aesthetics so it's usually some of that and some of my whacky stuff

they do like dark shells with one or two colors of lights/highlights most of the time

[zealous urchin]

what is it made out of

[whole drum]

Rainbows

[unkempt blade]

that one is pretty much all colored metal walls + glass

[zealous urchin]

u can color metal walls?

[unkempt blade]

yeah whatever the default orange ones are

I typically have like 6 or 7 colors as options + black/gray/white

ahh "basic walls"

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1462891528119648429

[unkempt blade]

and for the emote type stuff I just throw the image into a pixel art site for whatever dimensions and use that as a starting point

used to do builds like that in minecraft too but those typically had a lot more "pixels"

[whole drum]

I made that one with billboards

[unkempt blade]

very cool, the different sign sizes worked really well with the star field

[whole drum]

They weren't different sizes, but I used the snowflake as the "stars" in the field

[unkempt blade]

ahhh neat

I use signs a lot for trim lights but haven't done a big picture like that with them yet

[whole drum]

Technically the flag is incorrect in a couple ways, but you'd have to look closely to notice

[unkempt blade]

and we do fake advertisements on billboards for our skyroads 😆

[whole drum]

That's awesome

[sick falcon]

do i need head lift for gasses

[indigo kiln]

😂

[whole drum]

No

[swift turret]

is steel screws and copper rotors a 1 to 1 trade? The per minute amount is different even tho they both need 52 screws

[sick falcon]

they build at at a different speed, youll need to over/underclock

[unkempt blade]

you'd underclock the screws or overclock the rotors probably

[swift turret]

wild

[unkempt blade]

units/minute is what to pay attention to more than the number that they make/consume in a single batch

[whole drum]

It kind of depends on how you weight the value of different base materials. Steel requires coal and copper sheets require copper, but default Rotors are all iron.

[swift turret]

I need the copper for stators and the coal for pipes anyways

[whole drum]

I haven't mathed it out, but theoretically you could use that copper for Iron Alloy to get more iron ingots and that maybe could be cheaper overall.

[swift turret]

sure I can make it with iron but I found an area with all 3 nodes so im gonna use them all

[whole drum]

Yeah, nothing wrong with that

[swift turret]

calculator im using doesnt wanna use the copper rotors so im mathing it myself

[whole drum]

You can't disable other recipes?

[swift turret]

not unless you can disable the default

oh wait you can

lmao

oof I already hate it 347.66 screws

[whole drum]

That's just like 5 steel screw machines

[swift turret]

2

1 steel screw constructor makes 260 per minute

[whole drum]

Been a minute... wasn't remembering precisely

[swift turret]

yeah such an ugly number

[whole drum]

What's your highest belt?

[swift turret]

restarted my world so mk3 rn

[whole drum]

So 270/m

[swift turret]

ye

[whole drum]

One machine = 1 belt

[quasi warren]

I still make orange boxes- idk how to design for the life of me

[swift turret]

dear god im gonna have to load balance screws

the numbers are not numbering

[whole drum]

Just put on some music to vibe and start playing with different walls, roofs, architecture, etc. Don't feel rushed or anything. It's not a project that needs completed; it's an art to be experienced/discovered.

[whole drum]

What are the input requirements for screws?

[versed cosmos]

so find screwless alt recipes

[quasi warren]

I use mods, so I have MANY options available to me

[whole drum]

That would be way more steel-expensive

[feral jay]

Or split the screw production up and put those constructors directly in front of the machines that consume them, so you don't end up with too many screws on a belt

[versed cosmos]

what are you making?

[swift turret]

splitting them wouldnt work directly

[whole drum]

He means downclock the screw machines to match your input needs

So machines go 1:1

[feral jay]

No, I don't mean "split the output of the screw constructors", I mean "group the screw constructors into independent groups, so load balancing their outputs is not necessary"

Which of course could mean a drastic redesign

[whole drum]

Building screws/wires directly into machines that need them with matching output-input is a very easy way to deal with them too.

Also saves a ton of space in builds

[feral jay]

If you have ten machines that need a thousand screws per minute in total, don't centralize the thousand screws per minute - make ten groups of screw constructors that each make 100 screws per minute

[whole drum]

Exactly

[near siren]

bloody spiders lmao

fell down a hole and it killed me through a sneak attack 😄

[swift turret]

true

[zealous urchin]

how dare u suggest solution that requires more than 2 lines of text 😩

forces me to think 2 much

[sick falcon]

is there any way i can make a train go to a terminal, and then choose whichever station there is empty?

[whole drum]

"Lines of text" is fungible. I could have an ultra wide monitor with an ultra tiny font with Discord on fullscreen--one line of text would be a short story.

[feral jay]

Unfortunately not.

We can't build Factorio/OpenTTD style stackers in this game, every train's path is predetermined from the moment it leaves the station

[sick falcon]

openttd?

[whole drum]

Another game

[feral jay]

www.openttd.org

[zealous urchin]

vs old smartfone with 200% zoop and magnifier

[sick falcon]

oh cool

[whole drum]

Train signals in this game don't tell the trains which stations to use. The train schedule does that.

[indigo kiln]

Am I going to hate myself when I have to collect tickets or is sink "inventory's" connected

[frosty mirage]

Is copper rotor alternate better than the original?

[sick falcon]

ill have to play it once i finish the 10 other logistics simulators in my backlog

[feral jay]

It's all connected

[indigo kiln]

Thank God

[whole drum]

Sinks all share points

[sick falcon]

very few recipes are strictly "better" than others, its a matter of which one works for you in the area you're in

[whole drum]

It would suuuuck if they were independant, lol

[zealous urchin]

copper rotor is goated however each one of them has uses

[whole drum]

Default Rotor has a strong argument if you use Steel Screws and Steel Rods--very cheap/easy build.

[zealous urchin]

i like default rotor from just iron

[frosty mirage]

I have 6 iron ores around and only 2 coppers, so im not quite sure how to go about it. Basic recipe is better for what i have, but i would use some of the iron on other stuff

[quasi warren]

I usually use the steel rotor recipe.

[whole drum]

It's certainly fine. Using the steel alts means you pay a little coal to make the iron go much further.

[versed cosmos]

steel rotor with iron pipe ❤️

why 🤮 ???

[whole drum]

That is a lazy/easy way. It's so resource wasteful tho

[zealous urchin]

u have all map to explore
dont limit urself to just starting location
however just for now u could realy go with each i think

[versed cosmos]

Great for motors tho

[whole drum]

It can be

[indigo kiln]

Industrial storage containers are absolute fucking awesome buffers

[whole drum]

I have done it. It just doesn't go very far.

[indigo kiln]

I thought the original one was good but I just realized there they aren't a splitter

[whole drum]

Yup

[scenic mirage]

they only split if the conveyors full

[whole drum]

??

[scenic mirage]

like if the bottom conveyor is full itll start dispensing on the top one

[whole drum]

No, they both pull

[frosty mirage]

Im trying to start a better organized factory for motors and I have this nice place close to start with 2 pure coals, 6 normal irons and 2 normal coppers

[scenic mirage]

they both accept inputs, but when you're outputting

[whole drum]

They both output too

[scenic mirage]

it does one output until the conveyor is full

yes... only when ones full

[whole drum]

No

[indigo kiln]

No it uses both at the same time

[scenic mirage]

they dont evenly split

[indigo kiln]

They do If they have enough items

[quasi warren]

Should I use the steel rotor recipe?? Or should I not use it

[whole drum]

Up to you

[scenic mirage]

oh my god wtf????

i was talking out my ass im sorry

youre right 😭

[whole drum]

Is okay. We all fuck up.

[scenic mirage]

ada would be disappointed in me

[whole drum]

So nothing changed

[zealous urchin]

put ur location resource limits into tools and check for both outcomes then

[sinful goblet]

im trying to connect pipes. how come the pipeline junction sets the connection up in the air and not to the sides i dont get it.

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[whole drum]

Post in #1038092680493801533 with screenshot

[frosty mirage]

Yep, right now im mapping out my resources and I will see how to go about it

[indigo kiln]

I've accidentally created the perfect factory height to fall from full health and land on one health

[whole drum]

If you are full health, this is any height

[indigo kiln]

Oh, then why is it an achievement lol

I thought I did something special lmao

[whole drum]

Why not?

[stoic laurel]

when a small sliver of mk2 belt was hindering your coal plants from running full boar

[indigo kiln]

Good point

[drowsy kelp]

Are blade runners a requirement for that

[whole drum]

I don't think so

But if you aren't at 100% hp, well... FAFO is a thing

[drowsy kelp]

“Blade Runners cap the maximum fall damage at 96 health points or 9.6 health segments. Without the Blade Runners, the fall damage is capped at 97 instead.”

[whole drum]

Getting punted off a high cliff by an alpha hog can be deadly this way

[drowsy kelp]

Or being hit in the face by a rock off a cliff by a cliff hog

[unborn moss]

You can rotate it.

[rare thunder]

whats the max output of a pure coal node? with fully upgraded everything

[whole drum]

Mk3 with 3 shards?

[quasi warren]

What abt mk2 with 3 shards?

[whole drum]

Think it's 1200/m for Mk3 x3 OC on Pure Coal

[drowsy kelp]

600

[whole drum]

Can check tho...

[drowsy kelp]

240 coal from the pure node with the mk2, multiply that by 2.5 to get 600

[whole drum]

!wikisearch Miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Miner

[rare thunder]

hmm

im thinking of building a layout big enough to fill it in with coal power once i upgrade stuff

[quasi warren]

Holy jeebus

[drowsy kelp]

A base miner does 60/m on a normal node, pure and impure are 120/m and 30/m with a base miner, each miner upgrade doubles the output

[quasi warren]

Is there any belt that can handle 1200?

[whole drum]

!wikisearch belt

[drowsy kelp]

Mk6 can, no?

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=belt

[drowsy kelp]

This is the whole reason they made mk6 belts afaik

[quasi warren]

Ye. Mk6 can

[quasi warren]

Oh dang

[sick falcon]

path signals at junction entrances, blocks at exits right

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah

[quasi warren]

I have never touched trains in satisfactory, idk how to make anything regarding trains-

[willow pond]

ngl still disappointed that we can't sloop miners

[quasi warren]

I dont think we have a belt that can handle that much ore

[whole drum]

It would let you have 1200/m in Phase 3, well before your belts could ever support it

[willow pond]

oh i know, i'd just like to see a "full vertical integration" line with sloops everywhere 🤣

[whole drum]

Just wouldn't fit the design at all

[feral jay]

heh, went caving for some mycelia, and came back with over 3X as much wood as I did mycelia

That'll keep the biofuel plant busy for a while

[willow pond]

i love when it's 80% limestone

[whole drum]

Go to Rocky Desert for it. Cactus yields it.

[feral jay]

I just cleared the quartz cave there

Including the ceiling now since I ran power through it

[forest osprey]

hello im new how do i use the miner mk1? i put conveyor belts but where should the conveyor belts go?

connect it to the storage container?

[whole drum]

You connect a belt to the miner to deliver it where you want

[feral jay]

Well, you connect the output belt to anything that has an input. A container is one of the things that has an input.

[feral jay]

And welcome!

[forest osprey]

i still dont understand but thanks ill figure it out somehow lol

[clear mesa]

Miner -> smelter -> constructor

[fickle oriole]

anyone ever seen this? About half the time, when I try to bind a blueprint to a hotkey, it works. the other half of the time, it binds to a customizer setting instead. What am I missing? I hover over the blueprint icon, press the number key, and ..... results vary

[whole drum]

Did you skip onboarding?

[feral jay]

Machines (constructors/assemblers etc) will have an input that you can connect an output belt to. Right now, you'll be starting with connecting your miners to either containers (so you don't need to hand mine so much), or to smelters (which will make the ore automatically for you)

And yes, do the onboarding if you skipped it, it answers a lot of this

[forest osprey]

Can i send u something in dms? i cant send screenshot here

[clear mesa]

#screenshots

[whole drum]

Use #1038092680493801533

You can't chat in #screenshots

[rich shoal]

I was watching the shining and I couldn't stop hearing the beep from the resource scanner wth

[forest osprey]

i cant connect the conveyor belt to smelting machine

[feral jay]

Yeah #1038092680493801533 or #design-and-architecture would be good places for your question, this channel is the only one you can't put screenshots in

[whole drum]

Are you on PC?

[forest osprey]

yeah

[whole drum]

Steam?

[rich shoal]

Are the directions of the belt and the smelter uhh in the same direction?

[whole drum]

Actually, tell you what. Message me in DMs. We can do a voice call and you stream your gameplay. I can walk you through the basics.

[rich shoal]

Also could try reinstall the smelter or the belt

[feral jay]

A machine's output will have arrows/chevrons on the output connection

The other side will be the input

[rich shoal]

Is not that serious twin

[whole drum]

That's up to them

[forest osprey]

ty just sent u a dm

[forest osprey]

it is bro im lost asf

[native tapir]

Happens to me when I search for blueprints. If I just scroll and find it, hotkey works. When I search by name I can't bind

[fickle oriole]

ty!

[rich shoal]

Maybe gilga has already helped you but you have to match the green arrow of the belt (output) with the red/orange arrow of the smelter (input)

[clear mesa]

I think it's fairly intuitive tbh but idk 😞

[frosty mirage]

Is this project too ambitious? I just started phase 3 and I wanna build a 5 item factory #screenshots
Is it not worth it at this point because things will any way get more complicated?

[clear mesa]

Not sure what the conveyor issue could be unless hes not realising he doesn't have enough resources

[clear mesa]

Looks fine and normal tbh for phase 3

[frosty mirage]

Im scared

[clear mesa]

I need to place 1.2k fuel generators and I'm in phase 4 so..

No such thing as too much! 🙂‍↕️

[frosty mirage]

Alright, I guess my next 2 weeks is gonna be this 👁👄👁

[rich shoal]

How you react such energy requirement levels

[clear mesa]

I just want to not need to worry about it for a while

[rich shoal]

Thats 900 thousand kw

[clear mesa]

Is it?

Pretty sure it's 250GW

[true mulch]

that would be 900 MW...?

[rich shoal]

Yeah i forgot the conversion

[drowsy kelp]

I’m curious, what are the 5 items and their quantity per minute

[clear mesa]

300GW sorry

Anyways with that amount I'll be good enough until I get to ficsonium and route all the uranium

[drowsy kelp]

What do you need all that juice for

[clear mesa]

Oh at that point it'll just be for fun

Uranium has no other use anyway

[drowsy kelp]

You could charge 3000 power storages full-speed with that much juice

[feral jay]

Nuke nobs!

[rich shoal]

The fuel gens don't give 750kw? Or whatever they give

[drowsy kelp]

They’re 250MW

[rich shoal]

Hmm

[drowsy kelp]

nothing’s measured in kW

[swift turret]

That'll be at least 2.5 kw

[clear mesa]

You're thinking of when they're overclocked maybe? Even then it's 625

Since I can't automate power shards just yet. Fully overclocking 480 fuel gens isnt happening :p

[rich shoal]

In MW so?

[drowsy kelp]

Everything uses megawatts or more, yeah

[rich shoal]

Thanks

[drowsy kelp]

Even a plain constructor is 4MW

[reef basin]

well technically it can be measured in anything
fuel gens make 250000kW

[drowsy kelp]

250 million joules per second

One watt is a joule per second

[clear mesa]

250 billion millijoules

[rich shoal]

3x10^15 potatoes

[swift turret]

thats like at leasst 4 lights

[muted talon]

question: is an Nuclear Powerplant with 1.333 Million Mw enough to complete the game save in terms of power?

[clear mesa]

Way more than enough

[swift turret]

that can charge maybe your phone

[next dove]

is there a way to put multiple different items on a belt? I saw a video on UT but i cannot find how to do this (or is it a mod?)

[swift turret]

a merger

[drowsy kelp]

1.3 terawatts is a lot

[frosty mirage]

Stator, motor, versatile framework, encased industrial beam and modular frames - 7 each. These are items i have not automated yet so i just dropped them into the calculator

[next dove]

Really? Am i that 'stupid'....

[swift turret]

you'll need to be more specific what you mean then

[drowsy kelp]

You can put whatever you want on a belt

The harder part is separating them back out

Just use a smart splitter for that

[reef basin]

it's most likely more than you'll ever need

[rich shoal]

You need to experiment with the game

[swift turret]

Smart Splitter is typing ...

[rich shoal]

Take your time to use everything type shit

[drowsy kelp]

Yes…?

[swift turret]

I dont read

too much reading

[drowsy kelp]

It doesn’t matter if it’s all heading to the shredder anyway

[leaden turret]

how do you know how to type if you don't read? 😛

[swift turret]

Im here to split items and merge them all back not be a book expert

[swift turret]

could you speak louder I cant read

[rich shoal]

Maybe memorizing the entire dictionary and keyboard?

[drowsy kelp]

At that point you’re a step away from reading

[leaden turret]

🇭 🇴 🇼 🇩 🇴 🇾 🇴 🇺 🇰 🇳 🇴 🇼 🇭 🇴 🇼 🇹 🇴 🇹 🇾 🇵 🇪 🇮 🇫 🇾 🇴 🇺 🇩 🇴 🇳 ' 🇹 🇷 🇪 🇦 🇩 ❓

[swift turret]

sorry I dont speak english

could you do it in elvish

[rich shoal]

Worst ragebait

[cobalt sinew]

Mae govannen mellon nin

[rich shoal]

It's Rick and Morty time

[leaden turret]

conas dhéanamh leat fios conas chun cineál dá leat ná léigh?

[swift turret]

yeah that makes sense

[soft marsh]

#screenshots message 48 Batteries per bay. Building a "Oh shit" backup lol

[reef basin]

those are power storages, not batteries

[soft marsh]

Come at me bro

They look like duracells

[feral jay]

Yeah it doesn't help with the nomenclature confusion that they look like batteries

[reef basin]

that doesn't make them batteries 🙂

(and there's a "battery" item in the game)

[drowsy kelp]

A battery uses chemical reactions to make power

[kind spade]

how can i put other bolts in my rebar gun

[drowsy kelp]

Power storages are not batteries

[soft marsh]

That battery is also a battery. These big ones are D-Cells, those little ones are AAA.

[reef basin]

(and battery cannot have infinite output, the power storages are capacitors)

[sterile blade]

Hold the reload button

[kind spade]

oh thx

[drowsy kelp]

That uses electric fields to store energy, that doesn’t sound right for a power storage

[soft marsh]

Does a rechargeable battery recharge? Does it output as needed? Can it be recharged? Then is it a battery or a power storage?

[feral jay]

I'm not sure about that... the animation suggests that there's some kind of mechanical process involved, maybe a flywheel or something. But a capacitor only stores energy electrostatically.

[drowsy kelp]

Electrostatic was the word i was looking for

[reef basin]

I may be confusing what "capacitor" is in english 🤔

[drowsy kelp]

Batteries are electrochemical

[feral jay]

But on the other hand, I forgot about a couple of power storages I'd set up at my base, and I just did the math... they'd be drained in 45 seconds, so that's a bit fast for a battery...

[drowsy kelp]

Those still use chemicals and change depending on their state if charge

[soft marsh]

Ive had IRL batteries last about that long in freezing cold lmao

[drowsy kelp]

That’s because chemical reactions slow down in the cold

[feral jay]

Nah I don't think you're confusing the terms, a capacitor generally stores energy electrostatically, and a battery generally stores it electrochemically

[drowsy kelp]

The energy is still in there, you just can’t get it out

Power storages can dump all their energy as fast as you want

[soft marsh]

I think yall are bringing too much IRL science into a SciFi Fantasy Video Game

[feral jay]

Capacitors can have a much, much higher discharge rate, so much that even a relatively small one can kill you

[drowsy kelp]

If they use real units that check out against each other what’s stopping us

[reef basin]

and you're bringing too much irl naming into the game

the name of the building is "power storage" 🙂

[soft marsh]

Right...and what stores power? Rechargable batteries....I dont go around calling the battery in my xbox controller power storage...its a battery....

[drowsy kelp]

Yes

[feral jay]

Meh, it's just small talk, but "power storage" is the correct term. There is another thing in the game called a "battery" and it can be confusing when people mix them up

[soft marsh]

That is fair

[drowsy kelp]

Because that’s what a battery is

Generating electricity through chemical reactions

[soft marsh]

Correct!! So me calling them batteries is not wrong lol

[feral jay]

Yes, it is, and it confuses people.

[drowsy kelp]

Calling what batteries, the xbox controller?

[reef basin]

what stores power?
batteries, accumulators, capacitors... even things like dams technically store hydrostatic/hydroelectric power

[whole drum]

It introduces unnecessary ambiguity

[drowsy kelp]

Right or wrong, it’s still confusing

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom stores power

[reef basin]

just because batteries are one of the things that store power, that doesn't mean that if X stores power, it's a battery

[soft marsh]

She does actually - those are calories

[drowsy kelp]

-# power and energy are not the same thing

[mortal ginkgo]

I have them too bro, working hard to get rid of 'em 😭

[soft marsh]

Same tbh lmao

[whole drum]

It's winter. I'm storing power right now.

[rich shoal]

I love calories they makes me feel alive

[drowsy kelp]

Power is energy over time, you can store as much energy as you want but if you’re not doing anything with it there’s no power

Watt is power, joule is energy

Calorie is energy

[feral jay]

And since we're being pedantic/technical, power cannot be stored - energy can be stored, and converted to power, but power can't be stored, because it's a measure over time.

[whole drum]

You're trying to do watt with your family joules?

[feral jay]

You can't store power any more than you can store speed

[reef basin]

but it's called power storage

[mortal ginkgo]

Do you guys know what can ACTUALLY be stored? Limestone from IMPURE Limestone Nodes!

[drowsy kelp]

I also did just realize that

I’d take that as more power meaning electricity than power meaning energy over time because english is english

[mortal ginkgo]

English needs update patches.

[drowsy kelp]

It gets them all the time, the problem is they all suck

[soft marsh]

English beats up other languages in dark alleys and rifles through its pockets for spare vocabulary

[whole drum]

The devs don't know what they are doing. They will just break it.

[feral jay]

Power is energy over time, literally, by definition

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah

[whole drum]

Power Storage does measure mw/h tho

[drowsy kelp]

But would the average person think that or would they think of electricity in general

[feral jay]

yes, mw being energy and h being time

[drowsy kelp]

It doesn’t matter what the words mean if no one uses it the right way

[reef basin]

MWh actually 🙂

[drowsy kelp]

A watt is a joule per second, a watt is a measure of power

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
yall 🥹

[feral jay]

okay you win that one

[drowsy kelp]

Nice

[forest osprey]

yeah he did ty anyways

[whole drum]

I'm not an electrologer

[rich shoal]

How many hours?

[drowsy kelp]

Okay what

A watt is a unit of power

A watt-hour is a unit of energy

[covert quarry]

can conveyor lifts be infinately long as they don't need supports?

[drowsy kelp]

By themselves they’re limited to 48 meters each iirc

If you connect between 2 lift floor holes there’s no limit

[scenic mirage]

467 hours 37 minutes 50 seconds

[drowsy kelp]

Why is it like this

So we’ve been arguing over… what exactly

[soft marsh]

Once I finish building these batteries, I'm gonna start on a Mall. Tired of not being able to remember where on the map I built certain little products like copper wire and shiz

[soft marsh]

Over my use of the word Battery to describe Power Storage, apparently.

[reef basin]

some people don't learn

[soft marsh]

Oh its not that I don't learn - I don't agree. There's a difference lol

[reef basin]

the problem is that we also have a thing that is named "battery"

and in many cases it's ambiguous and unclear which one of the two you mean

[mortal ginkgo]

Is it really a battery if it can't be (re)charged?

[drowsy kelp]

Yes

[soft marsh]

Great! It can stay there, in the english language there are many things that are interchangeable with other things

[reef basin]

same as pump vs water extractor

[sterile blade]

And we employ it a lot against the wildlife

[soft marsh]

If we're concerned about ambiguity we shouldn't use English - the entire language is ambiguous at best

[scenic mirage]

lol rechargeable batteries are pretty new if you look at how long batteries have been a thing

[mortal ginkgo]

Interesting

[reef basin]

if you used the names things have, you wouldn't cause these issues

[drowsy kelp]

A battery is a collection of multiple cells that create electricity through electrochemical reactions

[scenic mirage]

did yall cry after beating the game for the first time 😭

[reef basin]

it's not that english is ambiguous, it's that you're using wrong term to make it ambiguous yourself

[drowsy kelp]

I’ve never been beyond tier 7

[soft marsh]

Almost 800 hours and still havent finished it yet lol

[mortal ginkgo]

I have gained knowledge, thanks to you. I am slightly closer to becoming a "Normal Limestone Node"

[scenic mirage]

what? why did the police put me in handcuffs and hold me in jail for a week for that??

[mortal ginkgo]

Game is not that poetic.. I got teary when finishing Frostpunk 2 but thats it.

[drowsy kelp]

What

[soft marsh]

Did you get charged with Battery?

[drowsy kelp]

Ohhh

[soft marsh]

Speaking of ambiguous - is it a power line or a cable?

[whole drum]

Actually had a misunderstanding with Vencam recently because he called a storage container a "buffer" (meaning its function) and I thought he was talking about the liquid buffers... lol

[drowsy kelp]

Cable is the item, power line is the connection between two power taps

[mortal ginkgo]

couldn't it be called Fluid Storage? Why is it called Buffer?

[soft marsh]

Nah thats just a connection. Its being called a power line but theres no actual ingame item called a power line - its a cable.

[whole drum]

I didn't name it lol

[soft marsh]

And thats my point

[reef basin]

there is a recipe called power line which makes the connection

[mortal ginkgo]

YOU NAMED IT I KNOW!

[drowsy kelp]

I wrote it wrong, a power line is the thing connecting two power taps

[soft marsh]

he did, hes in denial

[sterile blade]

Because it's rounder and buffer than a storage...?

[reef basin]

yeah, it happens more than people think, and it's one of the reason why I'm sometimes a bit "pedantic" over this. The more people we can teach to use proper terms, the less of these we'll have

[mortal ginkgo]

Well than it supposed to be called Fluid CHUNGUS Storage. Obviously. D'oh.

[reef basin]

no, it's not

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah no it isn’t ambiguous at all

[soft marsh]

Some people just don't learn 🤷‍♂️

[whole drum]

Same tbh

[reef basin]

cable: item
power line: recipe

it's so easy 🙂

[soft marsh]

Sure sure

[reef basin]

I mean... should I pull out the game data?

because it's literally there

[soft marsh]

Go for it, I just hope no one joins that speaks french and calls it Stockage d’énergie cuz you might have a heart attack.

[drowsy kelp]

It’s also on the wiki

[mortal ginkgo]

I am so confused... You use Cable to make Power Lines..

[drowsy kelp]

Yes

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean.. is this advanced tech?

What is the discussion?

[sterile blade]

Advanced semantics for advanced nerds~

[drowsy kelp]

Trying to corner us into admitting they’re right or something idk

[reef basin]

how is french relevant in any way?

I'm just saying that power line is a recipe in game data. (it's also a buildable btw)

[soft marsh]

Some people call things by what their in game name is and other people call things but what their common name is.

[mortal ginkgo]

Ah, Reddit moment.

[soft marsh]

Because the game calls is Power Storage.

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you store power in it. So it is called Power Storage.

[drowsy kelp]

You store energy in it

[soft marsh]

lol

[drowsy kelp]

kWh is even a unit of energy… apparently

[leaden turret]

Some people call things by what their in game name is and other people call things but what their common name is. are wrong

[reef basin]

I mean it wouldn't be a big problem if there wasn't a thing called "battery"

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean sure. I think "Energy Storage" could be odd for some folk that ain't Engirsh but hey.

[drowsy kelp]

My best guess is “power” in the name “power storage” is referring to electricity, not the actual thing named “power”

[reef basin]

like if you say "I'm making bolts", it's pretty clear it's screws, because we don't have "bolts" in the game

[stone surge]

whats up

[mortal ginkgo]

You are storing powerful energy because you suck at checking power time to time.

...

Checks out for me.

[real shale]

Power...

[reef basin]

but if you say "I have 50 batteries", you don't know if that's power storage or the item

[whole drum]

Yeah, someone earlier was talking about rods and called them "nails" 🙂

[real shale]

Anythings a nail if you hit it hard enough

[soft marsh]

That's where context comes into play - as with most languages. "Hey, this recipe says it needs batteries" versus "Hey I built a huge battery backup for my power needs"

[whole drum]

Your mom a nail?

[soft marsh]

My thumb has been a nail a couple times.....

[real shale]

You saying you assault my mom?

[reef basin]

(here's the recipe for power line btw, from game data)

{
"ClassName": "Recipe_PowerLine_C",
"FullName": "BlueprintGeneratedClass /Game/FactoryGame/Recipes/Buildings/Recipe_PowerLine.Recipe_PowerLine_C",
"mDisplayName": "Power Line",
"mIngredients": "((ItemClass=\"/Script/Engine.BlueprintGeneratedClass'/Game/FactoryGame/Resource/Parts/Cable/Desc_Cable.Desc_Cable_C'\",Amount=1))",
"mProduct": "((ItemClass=\"/Script/Engine.BlueprintGeneratedClass'/Game/FactoryGame/Buildable/Factory/PowerLine/Desc_PowerLine.Desc_PowerLine_C'\",Amount=1))",
"mManufacturingMenuPriority": "0.000000",
"mManufactoringDuration": "1.000000",
"mManualManufacturingMultiplier": "1.000000",
"mProducedIn": "(\"/Game/FactoryGame/Equipment/BuildGun/BP_BuildGun.BP_BuildGun_C\")",
"mRelevantEvents": "",
"mVariablePowerConsumptionConstant": "0.000000",
"mVariablePowerConsumptionFactor": "1.000000"
}

[drowsy kelp]

I hate how you’re more correct than most of the conversation that’s been happening

[soft marsh]

Careful, he might get charged with Battery.

[reef basin]

sure, please tell me which of the two I mean by "I have 50 batteries, is that enough?"

[obsidian quail]

You are aware that it is common to have surplus energy stored, right? It's not a sucking thing it's a logical step in power distribution.

[soft marsh]

Sure, does the recipe you're making need that many batteries?

[reef basin]

no, I'm talking about power storages

see the problem?

[soft marsh]

Ah, no worries - then no its not enough

[reef basin]

(and yes, it's 50 more than I need)

[drowsy kelp]

50 batteries per what? You’re still missing a part of the equation for that

[soft marsh]

No i dont becaus 5 seconds of clarification and problem solved. Instead of being all "achshully" 🥸 about it

[barren spire]

I am so glad wet stacking isn't a thing in this game, or we'd have a VERY real problem lol

[mortal ginkgo]

You guys are arguing for the sake of just fueling hatred for each other.

You two are not even trying to find a middle ground. Just move along at that point I say 😛

[reef basin]

we had cases where this went for 20+ minutes

[drowsy kelp]

Glad what isn’t a thing

[mortal ginkgo]

Wetness is nice.

[real shale]

Moist.

[soft marsh]

I don't hate him, I dont have any personal issue with him. Dude is fine, I'm sure. I just don't see the point in being pedantic when clarification is something that can always be gained if someone doesn't understand something.

[barren spire]

Wet stacking is when a generator, typically a diesel generator, is producing far above what it's demands are causing excessive sludge buildup due to unspent fuel buildup.

[soft marsh]

"Hey sorry, I dont know what you mean by battery - can you clarify?"

[drowsy kelp]

Oh so it running too rich and the unburnt gunk building up

[reef basin]

it's not that I don't know, it's that I assume that "battery" is "battery" and "power storage" is "power storage", like any normal person would

[drowsy kelp]

That would indeed be painful

[mortal ginkgo]

To be honest when someone says "I made 50 batteries, hope it will be enough", it is rather obvious they are talking about "Power Storage" because 50 battery as item ain't doing much.

When someone else says "I am making 30/min battery." we don't go thinking "zomg bro putting 30 Power Storage per minute! He is mad!"

We humans are not THAT awful at understanding each other.

I mostly still don't understand why people ain't tapping impure limestone nodes but thats a "you problem".

[obsidian quail]

You expect logical, reasonable responses on the internet?

[barren spire]

Primarily because there isn't enough load. For example, a 10k generator that's only putting out 2k is gonna wet stack. It's not an official term, mechanic jargon more like

[soft marsh]

And I'm the opposite - when someone says battery I assume they're talking about storing energy, not a small in game item that's used like three times

[reef basin]

and one of the best fuels for vehicles

[soft marsh]

I've never used it for vehicles.

[obsidian quail]

Do remember that ESL is a common thing and there does need to be some softer responses to misunderstandings.

[drowsy kelp]

What do you use instead

[soft marsh]

Rocket Fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom

[reef basin]

doesn't make it not usable for vehicles tho 🤷

[soft marsh]

Didnt say it wasnt, just said people's experiences are different. I use rocket fuel, I dont think I've ever made a recipe thats needed batteries yet

[mortal ginkgo]

People not using pluto rods as fuel for vehicles?

FOOLS! INSOLENT FOOLS!

[sweet light]

I have a cathedral dedicated to limestone

[junior ridge]

Yall i just made it to phase 2!

[drowsy kelp]

Nice

[reef basin]

and I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't see (and/or wasn't part of) many conversations that went for ages until the responding party realised that they are talking about a completely different thing, and a simple naming wasted ton of time for everyone

see also "pump" vs "extractor", or "bus" vs "belt", etc. It's not that hard to call things the correct name, especially since you literally see it on your screen

[soft marsh]

Sounds like a you problem at that point, my guy.

[drowsy kelp]

Ambiguity makes conversation painful, why fight to keep it when it’s very easy to stop

[reef basin]

how is it a me problem that it happens in this discord?

[scenic mirage]

it always drove me crazy when i was younger when people would misspell something literally written right in front of them\

[obsidian quail]

it is but he won't get it

[barren spire]

Everything in my world is completely and solely reliant on the fact that the three iron drillers I initially set remain stable and constantly above 95% efficiency or everything falls apart and I have no idea why lol.

[whole drum]

It's a problem for everyone--not just greeny.

[scenic mirage]

most people grew out of it in elementary or maaaaaaybe middle school

didnt see it in high school or later

[soft marsh]

Because you le the conversation go on that long until you sought clarification. How is it my problem if you misunderstand something when you could literally take two seconds and go "hey hold on, I dont get it"

[junior ridge]

WTF i just loaded my save and now im back in phase one???!!?!

[hardy swan]

congrats i did it yester day too

[reef basin]

I wasn't part of many of those conversation

[junior ridge]

WHYYYY

[soft marsh]

....

[hardy swan]

did you save right?

[junior ridge]

YES

And autosave is on

[reef basin]

and it's not that there was much confusion from the responder. The conversation made perfect sense. Just the asking person was confused but since they are usually new they didn't further clarify

[junior ridge]

brooooo this is going to take sooo long

[drowsy kelp]

Most of the people you’re helping will just assume your words align with what they use without checking or saying anything, they’ll just do what you say and be confused when it doesn’t work

[soft marsh]

Great! That's on them then.

[drowsy kelp]

I like how me and greeny, both people quite experienced with how stupid people can be, are on the same side

[soft marsh]

When I'm at work I don't just assume people are using the words I'm familiar with - I make sure by asking questions. Same goes in every day life.

[drowsy kelp]

It’s still your time wasted

[soft marsh]

"He I built these batteries!" "item or storage" "Storage" What was that, 2 seconds wasted?

[drowsy kelp]

Your hair being pulled out

[whole drum]

It's really not that hard to just make an effort to use the right term

[soft marsh]

Its also really not that hard to ask clarification questions

[reef basin]

if I get asked something that makes perfect sense to ask, I don't question every single word in that sentence just because the person may be misusing words for no reason other than to confuse others

[scenic mirage]

are we talking your eyebrow hair, armpit hair, or your scalp hair?

[hardy swan]

yall if i fall on the void what happen to my items? they get lost or just creat a death box close to were i die?

[whole drum]

No 😏

[scenic mirage]

try n find out 😉

[mortal ginkgo]

Can you guys agree to disagree?

This is going worse than "Cast Screws is a good recipe" and "Pipes are wack" discussions we get in a weekly basis before a mod intervenes.

[soft marsh]

Yep

[drowsy kelp]

It should be put at the last solid ground you stood on afaik

[soft marsh]

I've already tried that lol

[scenic mirage]

free wax?? 😲

[hardy swan]

i am not sure if i want to lost the hard drives on my inventory

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you are faulty about being stubborn with a random dude in internet, so is him.

I am about to bonk you lot.

[drowsy kelp]

Put them not in your inventory

[soft marsh]

Should be in there

[hardy swan]

thank you man

[soft marsh]

If you don't argue with strangers is it even the internet?

[mortal ginkgo]

Also can be buff batteries please?

Hot take but rocket fuel shouldn't be better for at least Drones considering how ridiculous amount of rocket fuel one can make.

[mortal ginkgo]

Is it even a Discord...? Hmm. One makes you think.

[soft marsh]

This is why Rocket Fuel is the best

[mortal ginkgo]

It is too good. The amount you can get from alt recipes is ultra game breakingly ridiculous.

Breakingly is a new word now, yes.

[reef basin]

it's more that RF should be nerfed a lot

[hardy swan]

alt recipes are THAT good or is this something that i just made up in my head?

[soft marsh]

That's why I dont even bother with nuclear. I did it once just to say I did but went right back to RF

[drowsy kelp]

Each recipe has different strengths and weaknesses

[reef basin]

alt recipes are... situational.
but your personal preferences may make some recipes great for you, or complete crap for you

[scenic mirage]

nuclear is fire tho wdym

[mortal ginkgo]

80% of the community, which makes 32432945830953 fuel gen setups on 1m foundation zone up in sky will cry out in anger and hatred.

There will be blood.

[drowsy kelp]

Good to one person may be unusably bad to another

[whole drum]

Going nuclear has the benefit of freeing up more oil for massive rubber/plastic/petro-coke output

[mortal ginkgo]

RF is too boring and too abundant, cant wait to make nuclear setup tbh.

[drowsy kelp]

At least use 2m foundations…

[junior ridge]

Bro this game sucks i just lost a 6 hour long save

[mortal ginkgo]

AND AT LEAST USE SOMETHING ELSE THAN FICSIT FOUNDATIONS GOD

THERE IS AN AWESOME SHOP FOR PONY'S SAKE

[reef basin]

yeah I know this is not happening. Unfortunately the game took a weird turn between 0.8 and 1.0 and seems to prefer casualness and OP stuff compared to making a well balanced and challenging factory game it was before

[junior ridge]

i made it to phase to then i just restart like 3 days ago

[hardy swan]

i see, the first one that i get was the alt screws that made things much easer(sorry if i typed wrong inglish is not my first languege) for me

[soft marsh]

I'm the opposite lol Nuclear is too much work

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree. The change is pretty clear especially about Phase 5 being just.. a drag? I mean it screams "Publisher REALLY asks for 1.0 release." but hey, thats another topic.

[reef basin]

yeah, it simplifies the production a bit, however it doesn't really save you any resources and skipping a step may be a problem for some people who want to use alt recipes for that step

[soft marsh]

The amount of power from a single node of oil is wild with the right RF recipes

[reef basin]

doubt so, given they basically self-publish

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, this game is too easy if I dont put "too much work" on it myself.

I love but its too casual and sandbox that I need to make my own difficult choices...

Or could this be the whole point that devs making?

[reef basin]

more likely thing is that around that time they changed game directors

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh interesting lore.

[wicked yew]

Making a blueprint for my rails and trying to figure out if trying to incorporate a power tower into it is worth it or not

[soft marsh]

Sandbox for you. As easy or as hard as you want

[soft marsh]

I tend to just drop a station wherever I need power, regardless of if I need a train or not

[drowsy kelp]

Rails already transfer power, why add the power tower

[mortal ginkgo]

Stations can transfer power, you dont need power towers.

[mortal ginkgo]

Well, what makes me sad is Nuclear is too much of a "meh" compared to what Rocket Fuel provides due to its complexity and by the time you need it.. you actually dont need it.

Phases asking static value of items is just "ok bro this is a bit too much casualness but eh."

[wicked yew]

Station transfer power?!?
Hot damn, that's gonna make my rail design much more easier now

[drowsy kelp]

Yes

Hoverpacks can connect to rails too

[soft marsh]

Im thinking of building a nuclear plant, a small one of like 10 to 20 reactors, just for the aesthetic.

As soon as I finish my backup power plant, I'm going to go build a Mall so I can start working on these bigger projects

[mortal ginkgo]

Make one that can support 120 fisconium fuel rods

[wicked yew]

Spent like 2 hours trying to design and redesign a rail line with power towers as i didn't know the rails and stations transfer power xD

[mortal ginkgo]

I got a crazy plan for dem reactors.. by the time it finishes, Satisfactory 2 will be out.

not even EA:

1.0, pure release.

[soft marsh]

Damn, couldnt finish my power plant - ran out of frames. Guess I need to do the mall now before I finish that

[obsidian quail]

is there a decent dimensional depot overview out there that someone knows?
Is it literally just, craft dimensional depot > put stuff in it > grab that from aywhere(after researching that in the tree)?

[soft marsh]

Yeah

[obsidian quail]

dayum, ok then.

[soft marsh]

Each depot can only hold one item and a specific amount of that item

[obsidian quail]

ahhh there is the catch, nice

[fluid crow]

I do a large storage with a depot on top

[reef basin]

Yes. You are correct. What you described is, in fact, correct, and your understanding of how the Dimensional Depot functions aligns with how it actually works in practice. The way you phrased it accurately reflects the behavior of the system, and there is nothing materially wrong, misleading, or incomplete about the description you gave. The sequence you outlined is the same sequence that occurs when using it.

In other words, the thing you said about crafting the Dimensional Depot, putting items into it, and then being able to access those items from anywhere (once the appropriate research is completed) is accurate. That is how it behaves. That is the functionality. There isn’t an additional hidden mechanic being skipped over in your description, nor is there some alternative interpretation that would make your statement incorrect.

To be very clear about what this response is addressing: this is confirming that your explanation of how the Dimensional Depot works is correct. It is not commenting on whether better or worse overviews exist, nor is it attempting to expand on the system beyond acknowledging that your understanding matches reality. The description you gave matches the actual usage, and the conclusion you reached is the correct one.

So yes, the answer to the question of whether it really is “just” that process is yes. It really is that process. Your summary captures the functionality accurately. There is no contradiction between what you said and how the system works, and nothing in your statement needs to be amended in order for it to be correct.

(and as for your first question - wiki is usually the place for "overviews" like this)

[soft marsh]

Same.

[obsidian quail]

wiki wasn't very clear, figured I would ask the group if there was a better one. thanks for the non-answer

[obsidian quail]

That sounds fun to work with, thanks!

[reef basin]

how is "yes" a non-answer?

[stone moth]

Im finally rebuilding my base to support tier 2 and 3 miners

[obsidian quail]

you'll figure it out lil bro.

[dusky hedge]

there is a toggle in your inventory to take items from inventory before storage
it helps to keep inventory clear

oops accidentlly responded to wrong message

[reef basin]

I know, but... I literally answered their question, where they correctly described how DDs work, with "yes" and got hit with "non-answer"

[dusky hedge]

it was meant for labrat my bad

[clear mesa]

Can't make everyone happy 😞

[reef basin]

np

[violet pecan]

Imagine if we had elevators except they go horizontal only.

[clear mesa]

Wait until you hear about this little niche thing called conveyors

[dusky hedge]

with wheels 😮

[drowsy kelp]

So a train

[whole ermine]

yayyyy, 20 computers per minute factory completed

[obsidian quail]

consider order of operations. apply it to your response to my inquiry.
You technically responded 'yes' to the initial question in my post, which was "Is there a decent dimensional depot overview out there that someone knows. which can be seen as a passive aggressive way of redirecting me to wiki.

If your intent was say 'yes' to the second part of my post, you should know that basic english means you respond with extra clarification towards your answer 'yes, that is how they work(wiki info here)'

You'll find many of the disagreements people have had with your answers lately come down to this.
If you don't have the time to elaborate or be more precise with your wording, don't bother responding.

I also don't expect you to understand this whatsoever or take any kind of learning from this clarification.

[whole ermine]

using crystal computer alt

[violet pecan]

No, not the metal linguine

[clear mesa]

Idk..the higher in tiers they go the more useful they can become for travelling tbh :p

afk walkway with 0 power required

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats called mk5 or mk6 belt that you stay on. You can also "hide" them underneath foundations and still let them move you around.

[clear mesa]

really?? i've never tried clipping them in to do that huh

gotta try that one out now

[reef basin]

literally last person who "had disagreement with my answer" was about me being too precise and them not wanting to

people make up your minds

[mortal ginkgo]

yup, some people do that

[obsidian quail]

thanks for proving me right.

[reef basin]

if you don't want my answers, there's a button for that in discord 🤷

[drowsy kelp]

A purpose-built moving floor thing would be neat

[reef basin]

good old "saying proving me right will make me right, 100%"

[mortal ginkgo]

hypertubes with lots of entry and exit points that go horizontal.. I mean

[indigo kiln]

I feel like the game is intentionally waiting for me to finish solving a problem the hard way to give me the easy solution to solve it, just spent like 23 hours making a item mail and just unlocks dimensional depots

[drowsy kelp]

Why do hypertubes feel both very fast and too slow at the same time

[reef basin]

I mean you can unlock depots very early, they aren't tied to any tier or anything 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree.. The fact that we can't speed up or slow down manually is meh tbh.

[drowsy kelp]

Trains are over twice as fast

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, also I still prefer good old'e power cable riding. Its just.. cool.

[indigo kiln]

I was so focused on https://media.tenor.com/QlhmT3yJ2MMAAAAM/satisfactory-factor-io.gif
That I completely forgot that you're supposed to explore in this game

[mortal ginkgo]

Hypertube also feels and looks so silly and goofy

[drowsy kelp]

Ziplines are fun but get repetitive for multiple trips and can get dangerous depending on where you’re going/pass through

[indigo kiln]

But you can by holding w and s you can even turn around

[mortal ginkgo]

holding W does not speed you up

[drowsy kelp]

You can slow down and turn around but your speed is still capped

[mortal ginkgo]

you are correct about slowing and turning around

[indigo kiln]

Oh I will continue to cope

Does that old trick of using multiple entrances still speed you up though?

[drowsy kelp]

cough stingers cough

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah

[clear mesa]

I mean when the other option is to make a cannon out of them I feel like they'll always feel comparitively slow when used "properly"

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah but I dont like the screen seizure.. I would like some eh.. manual control

[drowsy kelp]

You get control by choosing how many entrances to use

The pioneer’s ability to air-strafe is also very good

Just don’t forget your jetpack

[dusky hedge]

the mall is pretty useful for milestones, mam unlocks and big builds

[drowsy kelp]

It also takes some time to get right so you don’t undershoot or overshoot your destination

[dusky hedge]

why is it replying to greeny all the time, i click someone else twice now 😐

ah i htink im clicking on a response by greeny to the op

[fluid crow]

you could do a hybrid and still use a tube but with a high speed launcher

[clear mesa]

Yeah I suppose that could be done for something in the middle (distance-wise)

[dusky hedge]

has anyone tried a series of launchers? youi could redirect out if they are far enough apart to exit

i noticed if you hit somethign on the way up it doesnt hurt

[fluid crow]

you can use a series but a circle with only 2 entrances is most efficient

just make sure it's big enough to press e

[reef basin]

depot is the same 🙂

[dusky hedge]

you could have a network of launchers, where just a hint of jetpack could change trajectory to another launcher

[clear mesa]

yes 😉

[fluid crow]

I failed to totally exit the game before I fell asleep, now it's nice and toasty in here

[clear mesa]

at least all your storage containers are full

[fluid crow]

I think I did save, so I may just load that

[clear mesa]

You could but what would've really changed?

[drowsy kelp]

Extra space heater assuming you’re in the northern hemisphere

It’d be great if i wasn’t playing on laptop, extra heat and all my storages fill up

[fluid crow]

a lot of days since last incident 😆

[dense violet]

holy shit my dude, he literally told you where to look.
Good ridance

[clear mesa]

He left?

[drowsy kelp]

Do you mean the server? Labrat’s still here

[clear mesa]

I did yeah, assumed that's what he meant

For some reason when I opened up his profile it looked like he did

But it's just cause no roles are set on the avg user here

[dense violet]

by good ridance I meant 'not having to see their msgs anymore'

[clear mesa]

That's fair, I don't want to rehash it unnecessarily but it does make me wonder how long he had all that brewing inside him for 😭

[strong fiber]

Why am i radioactive if im not near anything radioactive

I have max radiation

[clear mesa]

Radioactive hogs maybe?

[dense violet]

whooooo knows.
some people look for offense where it doesn't exist

[clear mesa]

Or uranium in your depot/inventory?

[strong fiber]

Im at my nuclear plant

[dense violet]

save and reload

[strong fiber]

There was some uranium but i put it in a bin

[clear mesa]

Is there radioactive material in your nuclear plant? 😭

[strong fiber]

Not yet

[soft marsh]

I mean...text based responses only provide so much. Its pretty easy to find offense in text when there's no body language or tone to accompany it.

[clear mesa]

Then save and reload is your last option :p

[dense violet]

save and reload - there are radiation bugs

[strong fiber]

I can see that

It just fixed it

Im just trying to make uranium drone ports bruh

[dense violet]

yeah but defaulting to 'im going to take offense' to something that is, at worst ambiguous and honestly was in fact pretty tame, is an issue

[clear mesa]

Understandable I just wonder if it's worth the hassle or stress...It's easier to just ignore most times

[soft marsh]

Yeah but in my experience its harder to ignore passive-aggressiveness than just outright aggression.

[clear mesa]

I get that

[soft marsh]

Ive seen a lot more irl fights happen over passive aggression than straight up

[clear mesa]

I suppose I just don't see the point of tying any emotion to a large server anyway 💀

I come on here when bored to help people with my limited knowledge on the game

[soft marsh]

I come on to share screenshots since I dont know anyone else who plays. Still find myself in arguments every now and again

[mortal ginkgo]

Internet changed for some... people. Back in my days we always considered 95% of stuff were all just joking. Now it is the opposite.

People with no real life started to want make internet "all real" and forced that upon others.

Like there was this one guy who said maybe we should use 😛 less because it looks naughty, I was like bruh.

What if I find tree emoji insulting?

Etc etc.

[clear mesa]

Feel free to send my way I am in the same pit :p

[soft marsh]

Thats because a lot of people like to hide behind keyboards now

[clear mesa]

with a terrifying lack of opsec to their fragile anonymity 😞

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup.

I find it rather insulting the amount of people who does NOT tap on impure limestone nodes, but I still move on, stay stronk.

[soft marsh]

lol that and I've never understood it. I wont ever say something on here that I wouldn't actually say to someone in person. To have that kind of courage over a monitor is wild

[clear mesa]

I swear I act better on here than I do irl 😭

[soft marsh]

lol I'm about the same tbh

[mortal ginkgo]

I am worse irl as well. I think I just dont wanna see people anymore after having 10 years of dealing with angry customers and useless workers... etc.

I just wanna play games.

[oak nymph]

What is a good amount of super computer more then 10 / min of less then 10/min

[mortal ginkgo]

10/min is more than enough for personal use.

[clear mesa]

Well the general answer you'll get here is "as many as you need"

[soft marsh]

My job pays for my hobbies. I deal with all kinds of aholes all day just so I can come home and vibe out

[clear mesa]

10/min sounds like a good starting point though

[oak nymph]

For all type of use

[oak nymph]

I don't want that answer tho

[clear mesa]

I can't wait to be that paid 🙂‍↕️

[soft marsh]

In time. Took me almost 20 years to get to this point lol

[clear mesa]

Which is why I continued onto "10/min sounds like a good starting point though"

[mortal ginkgo]

20/min is gud.

[reef basin]

then roll a dice and produce that much. Your guess is as good as ours

[oak nymph]

Thx

[oak nymph]

😭

[dense violet]

3.2
I rolled a die for you

[reef basin]

(or rather, your guess is probably better than ours because you know how much you yoursefl use those items)

[clear mesa]

Hey you worked for it 🤷‍♂️

[mortal ginkgo]

Now can I tell him to make 60 fisco fuel rod and sloop them all so he can use all uranium with no waste?

Am I allowed to be THAT evil?

pls

[oak nymph]

Absolutely

[mortal ginkgo]

Do it.

[oak nymph]

Just gotta unlock uranium

[mortal ginkgo]

Also 60/min pasta, thats a no brainer

[dense violet]

until you're doing your own projects after you've unlocked everything just build stuff you're learning and you can't really future proof, and even if you make like 2pm you'll be able to store them up anyway

[clear mesa]

Produce 10k screws in an isolated corner of the map.

[mortal ginkgo]

WHY ARE YOU HERE CHATTING OMG BRO GO FACTORY GO

[oak nymph]

I know of course 600000 copper pounder par min

[mortal ginkgo]

ok you go DIRECTLY to jail

[reef basin]

I mean, what do you expect from sandbox game? everyone plays it differently

[oak nymph]

Let me automate PROJET PART FIRST

[mortal ginkgo]

[clear mesa]

Automate? Just handfeed the manufacturers

[reef basin]

automation better

[jaunty jewel]

i doubt this conversation is still going but man this is so real

[oak nymph]

I DECIDED I'm gonna make 10/min

[mortal ginkgo]

we agreed and moved on, like real bros but yeah

[clear mesa]

It is what it is :p

Not like those corners of the internet don't still exist lmfao