satisfactory

[cunning glade]

I got it

U have too delete the tracks In the blueprint for whatever reason

[fading whale]

Just 100? 😂
#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message still not that many

[versed cosmos]

and i though placing 32 for 1600 diluted fuel was bad

[sullen gull]

Allo Pioneers!

[sly flax]

bruh and i can't seam to make my 32 turbo fueled generator work 💀

[white dawn]

If you want to see what alt recipes are available out there, the wiki is probably your best bet. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/

[cunning glade]

Sup tinker

[versed cosmos]

turn some off to let pipes fill

[sullen gull]

Not a whole heck of a lot. How about yourself?

[cunning glade]

Tinker looks at this I got all the gens placed

[versed cosmos]

also if youre trying to get 300/min through a mk1 sometimes it only lets like 290 through

[sly flax]

my refinery arn't producing enough *

[sullen gull]

To the Moooon! 😏

[cunning glade]

Got one train setup for the oil

[versed cosmos]

well there's your problem

[cunning glade]

I still need maybe sulfur we shall see

[white dawn]

Here's the advice I've got saved which will nearly always get you to working 600/min. IMO it's good advice even below that point, though the system is usually more forgiving before then. Note of course that people have gotten working systems while ignoring large swaths of this, and occasionally due to build styles or other vagaries you might still have problems even with all this. But IME it's nearly always "the pipes Just Work":

1. Keep the system as simple and short as possible.
2. Loop your manifolds (so: the input goes into both sides of the machines you're feeding)
3. Feed fluid from above, so gravity does part of the work for you
   4a. Avoid valves entirely (they've been improved for 1.0, so this one might not be as important, but you still don't actually need valves)
   4b. Avoid fluid buffers entirely (except as buffers for train lines, where they are rather necessary)
4. Prefill your pipes! Full pipes are happy pipes. Wait until the system's thoroughly saturated before turning machines on.
5. Place junctions before pipes. If you do snap junctions onto pipes, dismantle and rebuild the pipes afterwards.

See #screenshots message for an example of 2+3 specifically. And of course, as mentioned, the fluid simulation tends to be more forgiving as the rate goes down, so keeping your pipe systems below 600/min is another option too.

^ IMO that's useful for exactly 300/min too, on some manifold arrangements

[cunning glade]

I need 2245.45 a min I'm not sure if that amount it's around blue Crater or not

[white dawn]

The problem points tend to be right around the pipe limits (though they're often most noticeable at mk2 600/min)

[sullen gull]

2550 iirc

[sly flax]

well i don't know why because it has the right input everything if conected to the grid every pipe was meticulousely inspected YET it does not work

[fickle locust]

For oil or for sulfur?

[white dawn]

If you're having piping issues, btw, a #1038092680493801533 thread with lots of pictures (including nice overhead ones -- photo mode can help) is nearly always your best bet to get help

Though do check out the advice I pasted above; that might get your stuff working as well

[cunning glade]

Actually there's 2760

Well that I can use rn

Don't have 1200 belts so

[cunning glade]

Sulfur I'm using 3900 oil a min

[umbral plume]

do bush and trees ever grow back in satifactory?

[tall lantern]

no

[scenic mirage]

can i split an oil node? like 75 to one part and 110 to another? would i use valves or just let it all balance out?

[sullen gull]

Ahh, my bad, thought you were referring to oil

[umbral plume]

sad

[white dawn]

You can split, yes, but don't bother with valves

[scenic mirage]

you can do it with SCIM

[cunning glade]

As long as u don't use over the amount in the pipes just split it

[umbral plume]

hmm

[scenic mirage]

ight so just use a junction n let it balance out?

[cunning glade]

Nah all good I got the oil from the red forest fracking node now I just need the oil here in blue Crater

If only I didn't work in 20 mins

[white dawn]

Note that if you're trying to make use of the full throughput of your pipes, splitting could end up being slightly weird. Pipes like either "even" splits or manifolds (or combinations of both). If I were doing it I'd have the 75 + 110 manifolds literally in the same line (with a looped manifold) rather than doing a split and then manifolding

[sullen gull]

The one near the crater lakes or the one more East?

[cunning glade]

The one in the red forest basically it's right on the edge closer too rocky desert

That sam node by the like 3 lakes

Leaves me with about 3000 oil left on the map

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message not too bad.. it does work after all.it is going to be hard now with the second line not to clip at all 🥹

[scenic mirage]

im building superposition oscillators but i only have a normal oil node left in this area, but i have a few underclocked nodes

[cunning glade]

What u need oil for for them?

[scenic mirage]

diamonds

[cunning glade]

Ah

Yeah I was wondering about t9 and needing oil

I was thinking coal for diamonds if I use too much

[tranquil zinc]

do vip junctions work when supplying from bottom? #screenshots message

[true mulch]

@green fiber

[tranquil zinc]

also I have "All fluids are gasses" mods, will vip junction not work because of this?

[sullen gull]

Tuuuuurboooo diamonds!

[green fiber]

yes, vip only works with liquids, not gasses

[scenic mirage]

i dont even make turbo fuel tho

[cunning glade]

What is vip?

[scenic mirage]

fluids thing

[true mulch]

Variable input priority

[green fiber]

voodoo pipe magic

[tranquil zinc]

oh well, I rather not turn off the mod just for this. Might as well use the water byproduct on another production line instead

[true mulch]

Priority merger for pipes, if I understand correctly

[cunning glade]

I see never heard of that before but neat

[true mulch]

You can have separate machines for fresh and recycled water

I never merge the water byproduct personally

[feral jay]

It's a priority merger for pipes, and works on black magic voodoo witchcraft and unicorn horn

[tranquil zinc]

I spent hours yesterday troubleshooting flow issues, I just installed the mod and it fixed it lol

[cunning glade]

Skill issue

[tranquil zinc]

I won't deny that lol

[cunning glade]

There is that mod that does scale fluids down which does seem interesting

[green fiber]

pipe tuner also exists

[cunning glade]

I think that would be nice cuz u can feed more machines with a single pipe

[green fiber]

which just makes it work at the limit

[cunning glade]

Wym?

[green fiber]

600/min pipes even with bottomfeeding manifold - works with that mod

[cunning glade]

Hmm idk I just be pipe maxing without issues

[green fiber]

it works fine in some cases, but bottomfeeding breaks the easiest in vanilla

[tropic juniper]

I love building big loops with trains and all my little facilities are all around it. Just so that I can ride it and admire my work

[cunning glade]

Like how he's done it?

[green fiber]

who

[cunning glade]

This

Cuz I've never done bottom feeding I don't think

[sly flax]

after 5hours trying to makke this work i realised that i mes half the rifenery ...

[fickle locust]

You've got 2100 directly in the Crater and then there's a further sulfur node to the southeast (pure) and an impure around the corner to the southwest

[white dawn]

Heh, sometimes it's the simple things. :D

I once nearly took down all my nuclear power 'cause I missed a belt which meant that I was only supplying half the required concrete to the system. :D

Managed to catch it just in time while doing a "look how clever I am" tour around the facilities. :P

[cunning glade]

Ye there's 2760 I can get with 780 belts

I'm gonna need too do aluminum soon

Last time I did 5600m

I'm thinking I scale it higher

I need 3280 ingots just for the pasta

Also using hot water for dabs is peak

[scenic mirage]

satisfactory baked sounds like a very slow way to beat the game 😂

[fickle locust]

If you're at this point I feel like it's not hard to unlock the mk 6 belts

It'd make your life easier

[cunning glade]

Well currently at phase 4 at 126hours

Second playthrough technically

[cunning glade]

No can do

Can't make pasta yet

[fickle locust]

You don't need pasta for belts
Ficsite trigons are not that tough to make

[green fiber]

time crystals are tougher than those lol

[cunning glade]

Shhh spoilers

I haven't been too phase5 yet doing it right

Still in phase 4 I need all the phase 4 parts automated

Doing the ratios well too so I can make a nice amount for the t5 parts

[fickle locust]

I'd set up as if you had the mk 6 belts, it'll help you in the future

[cunning glade]

My fear is I use all the oil screwing my self over for t5 tho

[fickle locust]

You know you'll want to make that upgrade soon enough

There's a lot of oil on the map, I'd be surprised if you could accidentally use all of it

[sullen gull]

Only really one main thing you'll need/want oil for in phase 5. Especially for the numbers you seem to be going for 😏

And with 3000 left, probably be fiiiiine

OK, wtf.. the I's i meant, but I seem to get a ton of "double hits" on keys.... is there a setting for that? Or do I need to lay off the coffee? 🤣

[spiral fulcrum]

Hello everyone! Wanted to ask a question about World Grid

There used to be a problem, that if you start placing foundations with W.G. on 1 corner of the map and from the other, connecting those 2 won't be possible since there would be a misconnection

Is this problem still there or I would be safe by using it?

[green fiber]

they will be misaligned if they arent on the same height

but the orientation should still match

[spiral fulcrum]

Yeah, I was talking about orientation :3

Thank you for the answer

[leaden matrix]

The lion cares not for new technology, the lion will use 265 coal generators

[dusky hedge]

i hope the lion likes piping water

[fresh chasm]

the lion has 50 hours and has no idea what the hell is going on

[sly flax]

does pipeline jusction contain liquid ?

[covert quarry]

i have a question, i make 5 silica and my constructor says it happens at a speed of 93.75pm, but is it actually 93.75pm or (93.75 X 5)pm considering i get 5 silica as my output at once?

[cunning glade]

I still have the fracking node and the oil by rocky it's making 60gw rn but after this plant it can be torn down

[dusky hedge]

per minute is total, 5 is for the recipe

[covert quarry]

thanks

[leaden matrix]

The lions biggest enemy is not having the MK2 pipes😭

[keen vault]

guys how get plastic i kinda need it

[cunning glade]

And then I have a 300 node somewhere and I think also the oil by the desert

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message works like a charm @fading whale

[hallow flicker]

No. The answer is more coffee.☕️

[cunning glade]

I'm assuming u mean for diamonds?

Noted let me see I swear there was oil near the desert

Yeah there's 900 oil in the desert then near it in the tropical area I have another 300

So I could theoretically use the rest of the oil for diamonds

[hallow flicker]

Can you get diamonds from the diluted doggo milk alt?

[haughty lance]

secret dlc

[modern mauve]

10/10 on whoever on the dev team who made the ADA dialogue. LUL

[scenic mirage]

i was so sad when i stopped getting messages 😭

[haughty lance]

i used da heavy oil residue -> plastic with a refinery

[cunning glade]

I really do wish she just randomly talked

[haughty lance]

true its peak

[modern mauve]

normally i think im ready for it, but the line i just got was so good LUL not gonna spoil it but damn it was funny

[spare cradle]

One thing that has stopped me from making more power is not having enough motors, and... Its a lot of stuff. The motor factory I got to build is a 22.2/min one

[cunning glade]

I'm assuming diamonds are solid point makers

[modern mauve]

diamonds are a girls best friend.

[cunning glade]

In the end it's all about thoose points

[keen vault]

i dont think i can rlly do anything with oil as some1 paining completing phase 2

[cunning glade]

Coupons

[haughty lance]

its alot of alternate recipes thats basically it

[keen vault]

i only have 2

[haughty lance]

is oil even available after phase 1

[spare cradle]

My head is hurting

[haughty lance]

i havent played ts in like a year

[spare cradle]

[keen vault]

dont think so

[spare cradle]

Yes.

[tranquil zinc]

omg, just realize how am I going to create train tracks above ground

[spare cradle]

Maybe?

[haughty lance]

holy shit theres 12gb worth of updates

[modern mauve]

just now?

[haughty lance]

nah i havent played in a year

[scenic mirage]

trust theyre worth it

[tranquil zinc]

how do you make train tracks curve/ramp up?

in blueprint mode

[scenic mirage]

just build ramps and then the railways after

[tranquil zinc]

looking at videos, but most blueprints are locked in patreon

[white dawn]

For ramping, build the rail right on ramps, optionally deleting the ramps after if you don't want 'em there

[umbral plume]

can somebody tell me how to unlock Milestone Phase 3, I did everything in Tier 2 , the part assembly, obstacle clearing , jump, bunus , logistic

[white dawn]

Space Elevator! :)

[tranquil zinc]

cause I thought train tracks are like conveyer belts, just build them and it will create a support/ramp for you

[scenic mirage]

then build them yourself 🙂

[cunning glade]

Ah u need time crystals from diamonds

[umbral plume]

the smart plating ?

[umbral plume]

the smart plating ?

[scenic mirage]

no you just build the railways and if you wanna do ramps or smth then you need to build the supports yourself

[stray summit]

wheres the dumbass plating

[white dawn]

Or to be more verbose: unlocking the next 2 tiers always requires completing some deliveries to the Space Elevator. Phase 1 is Tiers 1+2, Phase 2 is Tiers 3+4, Phase 3 is Tiers 5+6, etc

[white dawn]

Yep, 50 Smart Plating

[haughty lance]

yea feed that into the space elevator

[umbral plume]

got it

[white dawn]

Note that you don't actually have to unlock all tier milestones to progress to the next phase; if there's something you don't currently care about, you might be able to skip it

(although many of the milestones are needed so that you have the ability to make the Space Elevator parts, so you'll have to unlock most of them)

[cunning glade]

Is 500 diamond alot?

Like a min?

Just trying too estimate how many I wanna make

[haughty lance]

think so

[cunning glade]

Well it's super easy

[haughty lance]

yea just a bullshit amount of raw resources

[cunning glade]

Not really

Only 10k coal for 1000

[haughty lance]

only 10k coal 🙂

[modern mauve]

casual 10k

[cunning glade]

There's like 40k on the map

[scenic mirage]

or oil 😄

[ornate saffron]

Depends. I like to get 100m of mk6 belts a minute

[cunning glade]

Only 550 oil

[haughty lance]

yea just collect 1/4 of the map

[cunning glade]

We shall see I'll probs make a lot

[cunning glade]

Well I'm doing that for copper I need 15k copper or 6k copper powder

[limpid remnant]

if we unlock all from ficsmas, can we use it in the world if the event ends?

[haughty lance]

i barely did any automation all i did was make a 300k MW rocket fuel plant then do nothing 😭

[white dawn]

Anything you place in the world prior to the event end will stay there, but you won't be able to add any more until next time

[limpid remnant]

so I won't be able to add the new power poles?

[white dawn]

Gift trees will stop producing gifts, and machines with FICSMAS recipes will stop producing

[scenic mirage]

even if you middle click?

[white dawn]

Correct, even if you middle click. :)

[scenic mirage]

can you copy/paste recipes too?

[limpid remnant]

that's sad :( I wan't it all year round

[white dawn]

The only way to cheese it is to set your system clock back to the event, or use a mod which enables the event at all times

[grizzled lotus]

I just built a nuclear factory and starting to realize how the process is kind of intensive

[white dawn]

I don't think so, no

[scenic mirage]

damn

when does the event end

[haughty lance]

this is why rocket fuel is 10x better

[white dawn]

(And even if you could, those machines won't actually produce anything)

[white dawn]

Last day is today, I think

[scenic mirage]

oh shit wtf 😭

[cunning glade]

I can't wait too do nuclear

I'm gonna take all of the uranium on the map too one spot and do a perfect nuclear loop

[scenic mirage]

dont say that

[white dawn]

Disagree! Rocket Fuel is about on par with Uranium processing complexitywise, and requires building 10x more generators than Nuclear does

[scenic mirage]

you gonna regret it

[white dawn]

Of the two I actually much prefer Nuclear; IMO the build is far more interesting

Nah, Nuclear's fine

[scenic mirage]

i have nuclear but the waste keeps backing up for some reason

[white dawn]

You don't need to build huge nuclear systems; just a bit is quite manageable

[grizzled lotus]

how so?

[white dawn]

I mean, I am also fond of Rocket Fuel. There's no actual need to pick favorites. On my 1.0 save I just did both

[grizzled lotus]

is rocket fuel used in fuel generators?

[haughty lance]

its way less complex then nuclear

[white dawn]

But Rocket Fuel isn't inherently better; just a bit simpler once you add in steps like Plutonium.

[haughty lance]

i built like 100k plant for ficsonium that shit was awful

[white dawn]

If you're comparing to Uranium+Plutonium (and of course Ficsonium) then sure, it's less complex. I disagree that it's that much more complex than just Uranium, though, which IMO is what it's competing with

Again, not trying to disparage Rocket Fuel at all; it's a fine power source. :D But nuclear absolutely holds its own, even if Plutonium-and-up is a much more complicated build

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
uh what 😭

[white dawn]

Part of it may be that, y'know, I'm playing this game because I want to build factories, so nuclear is Yet More Factory I Get To Build™. :D

[grizzled lotus]

how much more complex does this game get from here on out? I just unlocked nuclear

[white dawn]

The fact that Plutonium-and-up is more complex doesn't bother me. :P

[haughty lance]

whats wrong with it

[haughty lance]

have u ever done the ficsonium fuel rod recipe with ur life on the line?

[white dawn]

Phase 4 is peak complexity. Phase 5 is actually a bit of a breather; there's some fun new loops to play with, but the primary complexity in Phase 5 is just the Phase-4-part requirements for the recipes

[white dawn]

I don't think I've ever played Satisfactory with my life on the line. :D I have built out Ficsonium, though, yeah. It was fun!

[scenic mirage]

look at the lift. look at the hole.

[haughty lance]

oh jesus christ what

[white dawn]

I admit the biggest nuclear plant I've built w/ Ficsonium was about .5TW power (total, not just Ficsonium), so not gigantic by big-nuclear standards

[oak nymph]

Is packed turbo fuel worth it for drone and how much it consumed?

[white dawn]

Yeah, should be fine; any of the fuels are viable! (I don't know the practical per-minute consumption for that one, though)

[haughty lance]

just use turbo fuel for this one

unless u already have rocket fuel

[tranquil zinc]

omg, the tolerances of train tracks.....

[haughty lance]

the effeciency barely goes up from what i remember

[oak nymph]

If I produce 20 turbofuel/min how many drone can I supply?

[tranquil zinc]

its really forcing me to skip and just use drones

[haughty lance]

if i remember correctly it uses like 3 turbo fuel per minute per drone

[unkempt blade]

would depend on route time/distance

[white dawn]

Probably not a lot. The per-minute consumption for batteries + rocket fuel is anecdotally between like 2-3/min (my own averages tend to be about 2.5/min). Consumption for Turbofuel will be higher than that

[haughty lance]

oh then i guess thats wrong

[oak nymph]

Oh

[cunning glade]

Ficsonium still uses uranium right

[white dawn]

Though yeah, the consumption per route ends up depending on round-trip times, which you won't know for sure until the route is set up

[white dawn]

You've got four options for nuclear:

1. Make Uranium Rods > Burn Them > Store the Uranium Waste forever
2. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert the U Waste to Plutonium Rods > Sink the Pu Rods (for a "clean" nuclear option)
3. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert U Waste to Pu Rods > Burn Them > Store the Plutonium Waste forever
4. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert U Waste to Pu Rods > Burn Them > Convert Pu Waste to Ficsonium Rods > Burn Them (for another "clean" option; Ficsonium produces no waste)

Once you get past Uranium Fuel Rods, the only other product which is sinkable is Plutonium Fuel Rods. Plutonium waste accumulates much more slowly than Uranium waste, so folks storing waste often prefer that. Ficsonium itself is quite resource-expensive (particularly SAM) and doesn't produce much extra power. But if you want the extra power from Plutonium and still want "clean" nuclear, that's the option. :)

[oak nymph]

I mean for a 5km trip for example

[unkempt blade]

I think it shows consumption on the drone port UI after you pick a route though

[haughty lance]

damn u type fast bro

[white dawn]

So yeah, you need to start with Uranium to end up at Ficsonium. Ficsonium itself doesn't require any more Uranium than you've already put into the system, though

[white dawn]

Hah, I ended up saving that out to a text file since I was typing it out so often. :P

Bit of a cheat there! :D

[white dawn]

Yes, though unfortunately you can't actually trust the per-minute fuel consumption for there; somehow the game gets it wrong. I believe that the two numbers you can trust are the round-trip time and the fuel-per-trip, though fuel-per-trip will likely be rounded. You'd want to wait for a couple of deliveries before trusting the numbers, too

[tranquil zinc]

anyway to "curve" the foundation so that its a gentle slope that can support tracks?

[cunning glade]

Okay I'll do the last option then got it

Can't be having waste here we don't waste

Or ficsit doesn't

[scenic mirage]

look at the math for that route tho

[haughty lance]

u can power vehicles with fuel rods btw its very funny

👍

[cunning glade]

That's not a now problem tho so why worry

[unkempt blade]

ahh good to know, usually by the time I'm using drones I have waaaaaay too much fuel of whatever type for them so I don't worry much about it 😆

[cunning glade]

And that's the fun part is math

[white dawn]

Heh, I understand the desire for "clean" nuclear, but do keep in mind that waste storage (particularly Plutonium Waste Storage) really isn't a big deal. You know how quickly you're generating waste, you know how much waste an ISC will hold, so you know how many ISCs you'd have to build to give yourself literally hundreds of hours of playtime. Blueprints make it trivial to set up big blocks of storage. Can just set it up somewhere offshore and then never think of it again

Though indeed, I do personally like having a "clean" option (and enjoy Ficsonium anyway) so that tends to be my own preferred option. But waste storage isn't really a problem

[cunning glade]

Well yeah but we are ficsit we don't waste

[unkempt blade]

a stack of filters will last a silly long time even if you're sitting in the middle of radiation all the time

[white dawn]

(Also I'll step in for KYO297 and mention that you can produce a lot of power by just burning Uranium Rods, and sinking Plutonium Rods instead. That's another "clean" option. Folks doing that will often divert some Plutonium Rods for drone fuel, too)

[cunning glade]

Clean is the more fun option

[haughty lance]

no we all using the toilet to make it clean ✌️

[white dawn]

btw, I would highly recommend using the solver at https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production instead of the one at satisfactory-calculator.com. The map viewer/editor on there is wonderful, but for a solver/calculator, sftools is superior in about every way

[unkempt blade]

hear me out.. just make a big rail line around the map and put a bunch of trains on it whose only purpose are to fill themselves up with rad waste and keep driving around with it

[haughty lance]

nice better websites

[cunning glade]

How do I setup the math for that

Do I just select ficsonium rods and maximize

[leaden matrix]

The biggest enemy of clean nuclear, A JOOOBBBBB

[unkempt blade]

just tell them you caught bird flu and then you'll have a couple weeks to set up your nuclear stuff

[haughty lance]

wait just use rocket fuel?? WAITTT

rocket fuel #1

[white dawn]

Ah right, yeah -- to solve for post-Uranium nuclear chains, you need to head to the "Inputs" tab and add in how much waste you're making from the previous step

Nuclear Power Plants don't have recipes per se, and sftools just uses an automated export from the game data to know what recipes exist, and doesn't hardcode the NPP processing. So it can't actually solve through rod->waste

So you'd solve for how much Uranium Fuel Rods you want, and then to solve for Plutonium, you'd plug in how much Uranium Waste you get from it (manually) and solve for Plutonium, etc.

[cunning glade]

How do I even setup too start with tho I'm confused

[magic rune]

...huh. why have i always been under the impression that a building's power consumption is recipe-specific...?

[haughty lance]

idk cro

Rocket fuel da best cuz
theres an area with every resource for it (blue crater)
its mid-late game
it produces a shit ton of energy (like 300k) which u will not need more of unless ur using half the map of resources or running 20 max overclocked and somersloped quantum encoders
also it only took me like 50 hours to set up all da rocket fuel

[unkempt blade]

also it's so boring anyone can do it

[cunning glade]

Hmmm maybe maxing uranium isnt possible

[haughty lance]

its fun 🙄

[magic rune]

maxing as in, taking it all the way to ficsonium? wiki says there's not enough sam in the world to do that

[cunning glade]

I'm also so confused I'm just gonna wait till I'm home I think

[cunning glade]

I see

[white dawn]

That is the case for Particle Accelerators, at least. :)

[unkempt blade]

Ehh... it's simple. Nuclear has more going on

[cunning glade]

I wanna use all uranium on the map

Make one big perfect loop

[haughty lance]

yeah it doesnt have a 500 recipe tree long line

[white dawn]

Yeah, SAM introduces a hard limit to the amount of Ficsonium you can produce. That's one complaint that some folks have about Ficsonium -- "max" nuclear setups can't convert entirely to Ficsonium

[cunning glade]

Tho from what I saw it needed fucking 32k bauxite

[white dawn]

I think it starts to have problems once your total energy output gets to around 1TW. You can stretch it further by slooping your RSAM though

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that's why nuclear is much more fun. This is a logistics game after all

[rich shoal]

since i have not enough electricity its time to pretolium maxxin

[haughty lance]

too much shit for me

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=l8Faw7R1pEc9aso3jPIC

Like yikes am I on the right track tho?

[white dawn]

I mean, max anything is going to be a huge megaproject

[cunning glade]

Frick it didn't have alts on

Ik but like that's not doable on my current world pretty sure

[haughty lance]

btw u should somersloop the ficsonium fuel rods

free extra power

[white dawn]

And you're doing resource-conversion in there as well, which is gonna complicate things. (sftools does like to convert)

[white dawn]

Not worth it. If you want free extra power, sloop something in the Uranium step instead

[haughty lance]

then u have to build 2x more machines

[white dawn]

Ficsonium's just there for folks who want to burn Plutonium while keeping a "clean" nuclear solution. Just not worth trying to eke out extra power from it; the previous two steps are far better for actual power generation

[haughty lance]

better for effieciency

[white dawn]

Right, but you're getting peanuts for your effort

Much better to spend the sloops on an Alien Power Augmentor than slooping Ficsonium, IMO

[haughty lance]

yea cuz the effort is literally nothing for getting like 50k more power

[white dawn]

Mind, I'm in favor of Ficsonium; I think it's fun and worth it. But there's no universe in which I'd waste sloops on Ficsonium rods. :)

Well, anyway, your save your rules of course. :)

I'd definitely not recommend that to anyone else though

[magic rune]

hilarious thought: who in their right mind would overclock Biomass (Alien Protein), even at 100% it outputs faster than even a Mk6 belt is capable of

[keen vault]

how do i not die instantly from having uranium in my inventory?

[haughty lance]

why would u need too

[cunning glade]

Radiation suit

Or hazmat or whatever

[haughty lance]

get a hazmat suit and delete the uranium

[unkempt blade]

biomass is the best power

[keen vault]

when do i get them?

or how do i get them

[haughty lance]

its in the MAM

[white dawn]

Max Iodine filter usage is 5/min. If you're producing 5/min Iodine filters and remember to occasionally top up your inventory from the Depot, you can spend literally the rest of the game with radioactive stuff in your inventory and not have problems. :)

[keen vault]

which category?

[cunning glade]

Milestone 7 and 8

[haughty lance]

i think the mycelium one for iodine

[cunning glade]

One of those tiers

[keen vault]

o bet

[haughty lance]

idfk

i need to play da game

[rich shoal]

Boooo, imma max the south east(I think) nodes

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message I tried my best with my two splitter towers to feed the next steel production

[unkempt blade]

yeah that's a really small resource requirement to get to 5 too

[rich shoal]

Not quite big, just 6 fuel generators

[unkempt blade]

radiation was an actual issue when we didn't have multiple equipment slots but now that I can use the rad suit and a back item at the same time it's basically a non-issue

[haughty lance]

nvm its unlocked throught t7

weird cuz it uses stuff from mycelium 🤷

[indigo kiln]

I love biomass so much that I put a Coal plant on top on my biomass plant

[haughty lance]

doing biomass more then once is such a pain

[versed cosmos]

Biomass is awesome for setting up little independent factories early game

I only make one big grid after getting coal power

[haughty lance]

awesome because its the only annoying option

[magic rune]

thanks to the power of modding, i've actually doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on biomass... because with the right combo of mods, you can technically make self-replicating "biomass and biomass accessories"

[haughty lance]

that sounds fun

[fluid crow]

power towers pretty overpowered, no pun intended

[indigo kiln]

Just watch out for drones

[modest kernel]

Yesterday I rode the hub freighter to the height border and died. Unfortunately, I didn't clear my inventory and now when I go to my death crate on the compass its nowhere to be seen, any ideas how to get it back

[rugged jasper]

what about progressing in-game ? ❤️

[versed cosmos]

Just completely removed a core part of the game by making biomass renewable lol

[magic rune]

oh, i'm in phase 4 already

[haughty lance]

3 trillion bio mass generators.

[versed cosmos]

Biomass isn't renewable because the devs felt like being mean about it lol it's meant to push you towards coal power

[rugged jasper]

bet...

[charred plaza]

We allowed to ask people if they wanna start a server with others?

[haughty lance]

yk i think the 20 watts vs 150 watts does enough

[tall lantern]

#1201555265942724758

[charred plaza]

Wait will it delete my current save?

[tall lantern]

no

[rugged jasper]

yes

[charred plaza]

Lies

[rugged jasper]

[charred plaza]

So if i make a new session it won’t delete it

[rugged jasper]

you are fine.
go for it 🙂

[haughty lance]

no lies

[oak nymph]

Do I need to loop my train?

[true mulch]

Choose between having a locomotive on both ends or track loops at each end

I recommend track loops

[rich shoal]

no, you can use buffer stop, i dont remember their name in english but if you want a big train system it wont be optimal

[versed cosmos]

a locomotive on each end works perfectly fine

people here will tell you dont run push pull systems but theyre a lot easier to build and there's no signalling to set up

unless youre trying to make crazy throughput push pull systems are fine

[tall lantern]

they work fine for simple 2 station setups with a single train, they just don't scale beyond that

[limpid cairn]

its easier to build but a big headache for good throughput

[tall lantern]

and seeing as scalability is one of the main strengths of trains, kneecapping yourself like that isn't ideal

[fluid crow]

bi-directional trains are nice for getting to difficult locations (and back)

[west plaza]

Why is Satisfactory the only game where I get motion sickness bro 💔

Am I being nerfed or something

[haughty lance]

do u have motion blur on?

[rugged jasper]

🥹

[oak nymph]

I'm just trying to transport quartz somewhere

[rugged jasper]

rip

[west plaza]

Nope

[versed cosmos]

yeah just run a push pull system

[haughty lance]

rip

[versed cosmos]

if its big amounts process it into quartz crystal or silica first

[haughty lance]

item portals would be cool

[rugged jasper]

because you can't deal with 1000 balls in the air at the same time ?? that is not the games fault.

[grizzled lotus]

if upkeep on a machine is zero percent, how long has it been off for?

[oak nymph]

Yeah I could but I mean I only need about 160 raw quartz

[haughty lance]

instant travel drones but they use singularity cells and way more power

[oak nymph]

Op

[zenith sage]

Copper seems to be the most annoying part of starting out with aluminum...

[haughty lance]

it would also be end game idk seems decently balanced 🤷

[haughty lance]

biproducts 💔

[feral jay]

I'm really loving my new express hypertube lines

[polar rose]

Could someone remind me what resources ficsmas needs, is it just copper and iron?

[rugged jasper]

you guys must be doing something wrong 😄

[haughty lance]

portals are lame i need big launcher

[feral jay]

No, not portals, just express hypertubes, boosted with tube cannons

[rugged jasper]

-.-

[haughty lance]

im saying they are my favorite way to travel :)

[rugged jasper]

lmao

[feral jay]

Kinda power hungry though, these tube accelerators eat 100mw apiece

[haughty lance]

no problem just make some rocket fuel power 🤑

[versed cosmos]

batteries

[feral jay]

So on really long lines that need auxilliary boosters I'm looking at almost half a gigawatt for an express tube each way

[haughty lance]

i made a hypertube cannon that launched me to the top of the space elevator but i cant load into the game anymore

😢

[true mulch]

Huh? Just load an autosave

How could doing something like that prevent the game from loading

[rugged jasper]

electricity is endless in this game.
why even talk about how much

🤭

[haughty lance]

my gpu is being is being powered by a molex -> 2pin cuz im poor af so

yea it just black screens

[rugged jasper]

rip

[feral jay]

Because it increases the frequency at which I need to build more power plants, when I'd rather be doing other things

But, fair point

[haughty lance]

the power must expand

[rugged jasper]

but it is umlimited in the end tho ^^

[haughty lance]

practically

unless u spam max overclocked and somerslooped quantum encoders

[feral jay]

Well there is a theoretical limit, somewhere arount 10TW, I don't recall anyone doing the reearch or any contests being run

[haughty lance]

its incredibly difficult to use 10tw brodie the most power hungry machine u can make uses like 50gw periodically 😭

[feral jay]

I know, I'm agreeing with you

Just being pedantic I guess

[rugged jasper]

so just be happy and go for it 😄 ❤️

[haughty lance]

WE ALL using 200 hyper tube entrances cannons

[rugged jasper]

if it is "that easy" 🤭

[haughty lance]

i remember when those guys would bug ur game

lemme get a ss

[atomic cradle]

Hello

[rugged jasper]

hi

[rugged jasper]

how far are you in-game ? ^^

[haughty lance]

#screenshots message

[atomic cradle]

I havent played much, the latest i got with my friend in a day was like coal power

[rugged jasper]

not bad ^^

[atomic cradle]

:D

[wispy osprey]

1: Single direction mergers sending belts in an exact direction with a very small distance (shortest belt range)

2: Vertical conveyors snapping to mergers or wall holes that are decently close, as well as snapping from floor holes

3: vertical conveyors snapping from floor hole to the next floor hole no matter the distance

[rugged jasper]

but who asked ? 😄 ❤️

[wispy osprey]

They're just that useful that I'd share

If you still want to be a dick about it that's fine too

[rugged jasper]

no need to be rude tho ^^

[wispy osprey]

Retaliation is rude now, imagine

You said who asked, I defended myself

[rugged jasper]

you must be American 🙂

I say, it is fine 🙂

[wispy osprey]

Sorry

[wispy osprey]

But yeah in America saying that is considered rude

[rugged jasper]

yeah... 🙂 bye now ❤️

[brazen coral]

So what is there to do after phase 5 besides the collectibles? Mega factory?

[rugged jasper]

did you really complete the game ? 😮
I want to ask now, how many hours it took you 😄

[golden nexus]

All unlocks, mam, steam achievements, awesome shop etc...

[golden nexus]

I have a complete save in about 80-90 hours

[brazen coral]

First play through 600 hours

[dense violet]

it's a sandbox game. Make your own projects.

like honestly, the phases are there basically to learn

[brazen coral]

Approximately 600 hours. I got to check

[dense violet]

some people are 'done' with the game after the phases, but to me that's like saying Minecraft is over after killing the dragon

[brazen coral]

But I was also letting it go on sleep mode for my PlayStation just to gain tickets passively

[queen slate]

Wow

[golden nexus]

Nope, Have completed the game multiple times, in multiplayer we can do T8 in under 24-36 hours

[rugged jasper]

I believe that !!

❤️ I still got 400 hours more to go 😄

[brazen coral]

More than likely you could do it faster if you had more people, but the majority of the problem was getting to aluminum

[queen slate]

I think I still have 150 hours left nearly halfway 😄

[brazen coral]

The whole time I was working off of fuel power for the majority of phase 4 and 5

Never got to nuclear

[dense violet]

you never need to

[rugged jasper]

are you phase 4 too ? ❤️

[queen slate]

Yah lol

[dense violet]

just if you think nuclear might be fun
Diluted fuel can easily do all hte phases

[golden nexus]

Not really, Theres a number of sticking points, espectially for beginners like rplate for example, if you don't nail rotor/rplate and a few other critical recipie mid game its going to be slow

[brazen coral]

Yeah you never really need to get to nuclear power even though it does have some benefits to get you more power but you never need to include it

Unless you want to get to fixonium

[dense violet]

or you just find nuclear fun

[golden nexus]

btw the builds looks like this #screenshots message

[rugged jasper]

I think it is where we have to do the most smart planning to complete the game

[surreal hatch]

true however nuclear is fun to build

[queen slate]

Just finished my 80gw factory and I’m praying it works

[brazen coral]

But you definitely want the alien power matrix to help

[dense violet]

why? duping mechanics are pretty dumb

[queen slate]

I’m trying to catch up on all the items I didn’t automate

[feral jay]

Uranium/Plutonium/Ficsonium power are basically "optional endgame superbosses"

[brazen coral]

Dumping mechanics no it gives you a boost of 30% power to the whole grid

[rugged jasper]

May ficit be with you ! ❤️ 😄

[dense violet]

yeah just build more power.

[delicate sage]

Can anyone please explain drones? Does it have to be A-B-A? Can they go multiple stops? Do I need an extra port just for fuel and does it deliver or act as a hub? Really struggling to get this right.

[feral jay]

They can only have two stops

[dense violet]

a to b and then back only

[queen slate]

Can I steal I mean borrow that ?

[feral jay]

So it they need to have fuel delivered at at least one of those two stops

[dense violet]

often people just use another set of ports to deliver fuel

often times it's easier to have multiple ports share the same spot to make refueling easier

[brazen coral]

The best source of oil/ fuel you want to go to is off of the western coast because there are a couple Islands out there with oil that are close enough together along with an oil vein

[golden nexus]

Its push or pull or both, A drone is "a port" and can either push items or take itesm. So you can have point to point only. But many drones may use the same ports (often badly)

[dense violet]

yeah it dupes power - much like sloops in machines dupe items

[rugged jasper]

I automate every single item in one factory.
it is pretty big at the moment tbh.
45x45 4m squares. ❤️ and 3 floors talls so far 😄 ❤️

[feral jay]

Every drone port or set of ports I build has a dedicated "fuel drone" that picks up fuel from a central production facility

I'm pretty sure that's how most people do it

[delicate sage]

Thank you guys for your help

[brazen coral]

I mean it uses sloops to build the machine in the first place but that's besides the point

[queen slate]

Wow I bet that looks impressive

I opted for modular factories because I’m a lil lazy and I like flying through the sky

[rugged jasper]

pretty insane build indeed ^^ 😄 but it is far from over.
I am just happy I have a powerful PC so I do not have any lag 😄

[golden nexus]

Well if you use them un manu you get 2x the nuclear power 😉

[paper panther]

They should honestly buff screw recipes to incentivize using them cause I'm pretty sure most players try to avoid recipes with screws

[golden nexus]

I use them..... screws are easy to deal with

[dense violet]

the whole game is 'Use X to make Y'

sloops, for power or for items makes it Y x number extra output.

that's duping
an unaugmented sloop machine will dupe 1.1x
sloops in a machine dupe various levels as well. Still duping

[queen slate]

Never thought about that how clever:D

[golden nexus]

Yeah so if you have manu making fuel rods, you overclock them all to 250% to also reduce the number of machines which means less sloops 😉

[brazen coral]

I think for my second playthrough I'll do a different location. But I really want to finish gathering all the collectibles first

[rugged jasper]

but you can do the same with oile power

get 250% more out of it

[queen slate]

I have 2 q
1 can you sloop fluids/gases
2 can you sloop blenders

[brazen coral]

Right now the only thing I have the sloops producing more of is just the fuel and I only have rockets fuel going through the system

[golden nexus]

yes, yes

[queen slate]

No way

[rugged jasper]

right !!!

[queen slate]

My world has just been shattered

[brazen coral]

I can make more machines to make more things but it's just a matter of splitting them into the right number of machines

[rugged jasper]

how... why ?

[dense violet]

because the ywant to dupe things I guess?

[queen slate]

I don’t know how I never knew u could sloop them

[unkempt blade]

unless it's packaged, can't sloop the packager

[brazen coral]

That's the first thing I tried to sloop but there was no sloop slot for it

[golden nexus]

I would need to check but i thnik you can sloop converter

[wispy osprey]

What if you use all sloops for 2× and don't get augmentors

You need sloops for 2× in the first place so that's out of the question

[brazen coral]

Yeah, you CAN sloop the converter

[golden nexus]

I use it though for making new sulphur, but you can also sloop the constructor for the sam 😉 #screenshots message

[rugged jasper]

oh ! I Sumersloop from beginning, to make every mega massive production from beginning 😄
with that strategy, I have way more I ever need in late game

[queen slate]

You can take them out of machines if that what u asking

[brazen coral]

At the time I had only used it for making more time crystals just so I can get the alternate recipe for the dark matter crystals

[golden nexus]

now you know why it takes me like 24 hours 😛

Cause the first thing you do in multiplayer is spread out and look for all the good stuff....

[rugged jasper]

gotcha 🤭

[uneven edge]

How do I change the colour of my machines without having to individually paint them all ?

[golden nexus]

change the default paint colour

[queen slate]

And raiding crash sites can carry you too

[wispy osprey]

Nah I'm not asking about that, I think its a net loss in power to not unlock augmentor

[unkempt blade]

change the colors for the swatch they're currently assigned

[queen slate]

I’d assume so

[rugged jasper]

in the top 🙂 ❤️

[wispy osprey]

Even if it costs sloops to get

[golden nexus]

Well kinda... it help in T0 or so.... it means you can skip hand crafting anything

[rugged jasper]

"the default" ^^

[uneven edge]

Alright thanks

[queen slate]

If you know where to look you can fly through phases

At least the early tiers

[wispy osprey]

You still have to wait a decent amount of time for 500 smart plating

Early game*

[golden nexus]

kinda, you still need the work, but an example I have of using it to skip far ahead was to unlock trains and be able to build train stations pre oil... this is why there is a oil production in middle of grass fields... #screenshots message this means i had plastic, rubber, pet coke in my "starter factory"

[queen slate]

Ye u right
Having trains before oil is very impressive

[golden nexus]

You need a bit to build the stations just.... but very simpllistic train eg single track back and forth setup was enough to bring crude back, i guess this is why they are adding fluid trucks in 1.2

[wispy osprey]

It's less likely to have signaling before oil though. Too many computers are needed

[golden nexus]

Yup correct...

[radiant mirage]

bonsoir des fr ici?

[wispy osprey]

non

[queen slate]

I haven’t touched trucks or tractors but my friend loves them
They useful?

[wispy osprey]

If you're a truck logistics God, yes

[golden nexus]

Kinda, Its worth it for just moving around / driving, I am too messy for them though too many belts on ground

[queen slate]

K thx

[ornate saffron]

they can be. I use them for some simple things moving Quartz for ewexample

[wispy osprey]

Getting fuel to every station you have is painful

The more stations you have the more fuel you need to deliver

[golden nexus]

Before we had depots they were basically required for doing out of base building because it was not only just transport but it was your portable inventory

[queen slate]

That’s what kinda put me off them

[fluid crow]

factory cart is best

[queen slate]

That makes sense

[oak nymph]

Oui

[golden nexus]

So you would head off to do oil carrying materials for 28 ref's, extractors etc... and then put concrete, copper sheets, overload of spares in the tractor/explorer etc....

[ornate saffron]

i still use them for that purpose sometimes or have a entire frieght train of materials. some BP's are rough

[rugged jasper]

🤗

[paper panther]

I have to rip out and rebuild my electronics plant to accommodate my new weapons factory

Life of satisfactory 💔

[unkempt blade]

Yet another problems that gets solved by using factory carts

[wispy osprey]

My mega factory idea is nuts, it's a lot to manage right now

[golden nexus]

Yeah, People underestimate how much you can do with just a dozen nodes or so

[queen slate]

Golden nuts?

[wispy osprey]

Minmaxing phases

Each section of factory is easily upgradable and replaceable

[paper panther]

My next project after my weapons factory is a giga plant out in the swamp that turns all the bauxite in the world into aluminum

[golden nexus]

good luck with that 😛

[ornate saffron]

Someone on here did that befor... I thihnk i still have the clip he sent me

[paper panther]

I needed a valid reason to nuke the swamp

[zenith sage]

I wonder.. do people usually make smaller train loops for modular factories or is the huge branching train system more typical? 🤔

[zenith spire]

▶︎ •၊I၊||I၊|I။I||I||I၊|• 0:10

[golden nexus]

I use back and forth trains quite a lot to avoid loops

[surreal hatch]

I did nuke whole pink bamboo forest. it's bald now

[unkempt blade]

global train network isn't necessary but is a very fun project

[fluid crow]

if the item stacks to 500 and your cart has an average 2 minute turn around then 2 carts could do 500 items a minute

[paper panther]

It depends on the scale of your world, if you're going big and beyond, a full map train system is probably what you want. If you're going small, just local trains that go in between would be fine

[ornate saffron]

I posted it in #streams-and-videos

[dense violet]

grow your train network as you make new hubs
don't plop down a global network first, since that will pressure you to choose different locations than what you might otherwise choose , plus you'll often just end up not using a ton of it

[wispy osprey]

I do the math based on how long it takes for the station to fill and subtract some numbers

Right now it takes ~6 minutes for 32 slots of iron ingot to fill at a rate of 960 items per minute

It's a long round trip

[golden nexus]

thing about track around the map... you can mix back and forth and looped trains.... just beware of the behaviour of a wye

[fluid crow]

train is nice just for the power coverage

even if you don't run a train regularly

[oak nymph]

It was definitely justified

[feral jay]

I generally do a worldwide train network

[unkempt blade]

I like power via train rails in theory but in practice I've seen adjusting the train network take down factories too many times so I just make it redundant with powerlines 🤣

[ornate saffron]

I build and expand my train network as needed

[golden nexus]

same

[queen slate]

I love making “structurally perfect” sky railways with no supports and a dream ;D

[dense violet]

yeah , don't rely on rail power, you'll likely murder whole sections of your world through power loss

[fluid crow]

mostly talking hover pack

[ornate saffron]

Im more of a power tower/ power pylon guy. I like ziplining

[golden nexus]

if only double click attached you.....

[ornate saffron]

i do single click. open or close the zxipline tool

[wispy osprey]

@golden nexus am I missing anything else or are these a good baseline for organized logistics

[fluid crow]

right click ftw

[grizzled lotus]

can drones run on compacted coal

[ornate saffron]

I believe so....

[dense violet]

check the wiki for the list of fuels

[ornate saffron]

shucks no coal.
No Ficsonium rods either

😊

[scarlet hamlet]

Im trying to find a duo to play with and chat on discord while we play im 22

[ornate saffron]

try #1201555265942724758

[scarlet hamlet]

I have

[dense violet]

lfg takes a long while..
most people don't want to play with randos

or at least on average it seems like it takes a long while for people

[golden nexus]

game goes though busy / quite phases, it was very busy at xmas as it normally is, but now it gets quite as people wait for 1.2 release/news

[ornate saffron]

im a solo myself. I have other games to play multiplayer. This is ,y ocd game

[golden nexus]

Its a tough game multiplayer....

[ornate saffron]

I imagine some detailed ground rules are rquired with randos

[golden nexus]

Sometimes, rarly does it "click"

In play thoughs I have done where the team "clicks" the builds can be extremly rapid

[scarlet hamlet]

It's not to bad along as your on a call just communicate what you doing

[rich void]

can i ask smthng

is there a player limit in multiplayer

[scarlet hamlet]

Like while I'm working on steel parts other is working on other things like automating coal factory

[golden nexus]

Yeah , communication is key, issue is most people cannot communicate effectivly

[scarlet hamlet]

It's rather easy to play with people

It's more fun I think I hate when I start talking to myself lol

[golden nexus]

So what happens is people say "I will do X" then 20 minutes later they leave not having done X

[scarlet hamlet]

Never happened to me

[golden nexus]

So you end up with odd problems like that

[scarlet hamlet]

The person I normlay play with just had a kid and already in bed so trying to find another partner

[golden nexus]

I have played on servers where people just run off and do their own thing completly, don't communicate anything with anyone

[scarlet hamlet]

That's odd lol why play the game like that fr

Mistra what's your server look like

[golden nexus]

I have played on multiple

[rugged jasper]

I think it is normal people come and go 🙂 ❤️

[scarlet hamlet]

Sad

[golden nexus]

i quit the last one after we hit T8 or so.

[scarlet hamlet]

Dang

[golden nexus]

let me get screenshot of pure spagetti one

which is a team that "clicked"

[scarlet hamlet]

I build blueprints to automate most thing and have alot of little organized square factors

Factories

[golden nexus]

Oh we are way past that 😛

[rugged jasper]

🥹

[tired cypress]

call me the Powerpuff Girls because once again, the day is saved thanks to me. ...actually don't call me that.

[rugged jasper]

cuties

[scarlet hamlet]

Trippin

[rugged jasper]

I believe you know 😄

[golden nexus]

Rocket fuel lol #screenshots message

[scarlet hamlet]

I dont know power puff let me see what your talking about

Im22

Lol what

[rugged jasper]

😄

[scarlet hamlet]

Dm me and showvme

[scenic sigil]

Chat I want to just give up on my current world and start a new one so I have a better starter build because tearing down and moving my production is stupid tedious. What do I do

[tired cypress]

I'm starting to think it has a meaning other than the TV show

[tired cypress]

just leave the stuff there and find a new spot and build there

[scenic sigil]

Good point

[ornate saffron]

I AM MOJOJOJO

The toonami anime promo's were fire too

[golden nexus]

@scarlet hamlet Spagetti #screenshots message

[dense violet]

well, I've found starting completely fresh does help polish your basic skills and it goes faster
but you could just build in another area? depends what you want out of the game

more practice with design and layout can be important

[cyan leaf]

Lol i love the open build layout so easy to make edits

[fading whale]

Back when CN was worth anything.

Actually brushing my teeth as we speak 😄

[oak nymph]

Bruh I forgot where my heavy modular frame factory is

I actually have no idea

[fading whale]

I was confused for second. But then figured you mean beard.

I mean. Some people like bread. I don't judge.

I have had people come up to me at random asking if they could touch.

[stray summit]

#screenshots check this out

[fading whale]

Looks doable enough.

[oak nymph]

I'm relieved I found it

Why

[fading whale]

Actually even local folks.
Especially near Copenhell (metal festival) is going on. Then there are a lot of metal-heads in the streets. And they seem to appreciate it a bit more than your average person.

[zealous urchin]

to beard or not to beard

this is the question

[grizzled lotus]

set up all the pieces. if every thing goes right, this one drone will go pick up uranium and bring it the encased uranium cell factory, and the other drone will take that to the uranium fuel rod factory, and my nuclea reactor will turn on

[fading whale]

Sweet and viking usually don't go together.

[ornate saffron]

... I just chopped off my beard....

[fading whale]

But I'll take it.

[ornate saffron]

i miss it

[fading whale]

You should've framed it.

[stray summit]

gotta admit
coffeestain did REALLY FCKIN WELL on the photo mode
its so good

[grizzled lotus]

beards are cool because they're less maintenance

[ornate saffron]

thats it i like the lack of shaving lol

[fading whale]

If it's Asian cuisine, I'm in.

[grizzled lotus]

the drone is back! and it's radioactive!

#screenshots message this picture is an achievment

[oak nymph]

What is your fuel

[fading whale]

Actual bedtime now. Later all.

[grizzled lotus]

for what?

[oak nymph]

Your drone

[grizzled lotus]

turbofuel

I do feel like I might not be able to keep up with production of turbofuel for all my drones, maybe next time I need fuel I'll just use normal fuel

[lime turret]

yo can someone help me with overflow without smart splitter i have one but its just spaghetti

[oak nymph]

How much do you produce for your drone?

[oak nymph]

Wdym?

[lime turret]

I mean I THINK i have one

[oak nymph]

Oh

[grizzled lotus]

to be honest I rarely look at numbers and calculate them. I just produce stuff, and if it's not enough I just look back through the machines and troubleshoot

but if machines are at 100% and nothing is off I'm happy

[lime turret]

#screenshots message

[oak nymph]

Cause I producing 20packaged turbo fuel and idk if it would be enough for some drones

[oak nymph]

Why dont you manifold it

[grizzled lotus]

I've found that drones don't really consume much turbo fuel. if you give your drone network a bit of time it might prime/fill the systems for other drones and that might be fine

but I'm also thinking that fuel might be better since it's easier to produce and migth do the job.

[oak nymph]

Ok and are they long range like can I send a drone from blue crater to the rocky desert?

[lime turret]

i think im doing that but im not sure if i did it correctly

[grizzled lotus]

but, somewhat unrelated, I found using turbofuel for your jetpack is a big boost from using normal fuel. it kind of feels like flying in comparison

[grizzled lotus]

what's blue crater?

[oak nymph]

Try out liquid biofuel

It's last way longer than turbo fuel

[lime turret]

here is a better screenshot #screenshots message

[oak nymph]

You can buy some at the shop

[grizzled lotus]

for reference, I can send a drone from the 3rd biom starting point (the forest with pure nodes) all the way to dune desert no problem

[grizzled lotus]

huh, I thougt liquid biofuel was worse. might try it out, though automating it is tough.

[oak nymph]

You can't fully automated it

[lament aspen]

hey

I've been looking at this game for a while, is it work getting at full price?

& are the steam key websites legit?

[grizzled lotus]

what do you mean is it work?

[oak nymph]

Buy some at the shop just to try it out because it has a way longer burn time but it's less agile personally I prefer the biofuel while exploring and turbofuel while fighting

[lime turret]

do you like factory games

[lament aspen]

never played one before

it looks awesome from what I've seen

[zealous urchin]

i think its worth full price but that all depends on how much time u want to spend in it
and i dont say that lightly

[oak nymph]

I don't get whats the problem

[zealous urchin]

it is however my top 1 game on steam for 25

so im biased

[rugged jasper]

GN you all 🙂

[zealous urchin]

🌘

besides gameplay and vibe sati has decent community and good mods

[versed cosmos]

people here are awesome

just wanna help people

[zealous urchin]

its just the question of how quickly u gonna get bored doing the same over and over

plus the game has some hidden skill checks and mental checks
mostly mental checks since learning modeler and doing curves or organazing and planing takes some time but its relatively easy

[versed cosmos]

day 29457 of telling people they dont have to pick an option when scanning a hard drive and they can just leave it in the mam

[zealous urchin]

80 years....
80 years ive waited for the end of this conflict, but war...
the war never changes

[grizzled lotus]

a few things to know. theres a lot of planning. building is fun but as the game goes on more and more planning is requird which some people like. also its kind of open ended. the game is a time sink

[lament aspen]

yeah like w/ modeling all your factories before building them?

#math-and-meta

[grizzled lotus]

no, more like choosing different locations and how to arragne your different factories/building to get the output you need

there are a number of different resources in this game, sometimes you require a mix of them or a mix of more complex parts, and then there's the problem of resources not being close to each other so you have to plan how to bring them together

[versed cosmos]

Trying to do aluminium and I feel like I need to pave the entire swamp to have enough space

[grizzled lotus]

you can also produce aluminum in the red "jungle"

[dense violet]

how much aluminium are you trying to process?

[fluid crow]

paving the swamp sounds like a GOOD PLAN

[versed cosmos]

1200 bauxite into 440 casings, 360 sheets, and 40 heat sinks

using sloppy alumina, electrode scrap, and pure ingot

[dense violet]

with a bit of over clocking you could process the solution and scrap with 8 refineries for that ^_-

make a floor above that for the rest and it's a small building

[versed cosmos]

also using heavy oil residue and making the polymer resin into rubber for the heat exchanger alt

[dense violet]

Think 3D 😄

[versed cosmos]

oh yeah idk why i didnt think to make a second floor

maybe because refineries are just tall af

[zealous urchin]

tbf i dont think choosing is the right word
lot of ppl have perfectionist mindest and always compare opportunity cost meanwhile there realy isnt any in this game
with exception of all map usage builds
maybe im overreaching but framing this as choosing creates sort of senseless opportunity cost dilema
u just do what u want instead of choose

[versed cosmos]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=ZTm6Qpsjp0UBDQ8P3FLC

[rain hollow]

Does anyone know what the weird oil thing with 6 connected nodes is that looks like cracked rocks you can blow up?

[versed cosmos]

that's a resource well

later you get a resource well pressuriser you put in the centre that lets you get resources out of it

the water ones are really good for when you arent by the coast and dont have a big lake nearby

as i was just saying im building aluminium in the swamp and im using the oil resource well to do the electrode scrap alt recipe

[dense violet]

stagger them like these coal gens 🙂 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1437572960004083722/1437573943774150738/image.png?ex=696d6291&is=696c1111&hm=6b16ab6701ae1d074ee2a712ddcb34ab80e231f1c10c9e4deef9a2587a42e278&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=299

[zealous urchin]

nothing but disdain for refineries

[versed cosmos]

i make things harder for myself by not using lifts because i find them ugly lol

[dense violet]

fuck em https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1357870180679815258/big_r_2.png?ex=696d76a7&is=696c2527&hm=10ee378b27c1a814edd98f8892c9165cfdf86ce4dfd566dc7f8e6fa91074a000&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[versed cosmos]

i elevate my refineries on 2m foundations and bring the belts down while the pipes stay flat

[dense violet]

clip them into support pillars and walls

[versed cosmos]

good idea

[stone moth]

How do i rotate a hypertube so that its on an angle facing up

[dense violet]

middle mouse wheel. for the stands

[sullen gull]

Click then rotate

[dense violet]

if you look on the left here, the concrete pillars have several lifts going up https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1098272545372905482/image.png?ex=696cff83&is=696bae03&hm=5abe3c74123fdc6fe7b302658fd40a21e99343ea8bace433bf3b02625aace4a4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2016&height=1270

[versed cosmos]

oh that does look good

[fluid crow]

horizontal to vertical mode

[oak nymph]

Should I automate a large amount of battery for drone

[swift turret]

yes

[oak nymph]

Or I could make nuclear fuel rode for drone should I it would be way more effective

And easier I think

[swift turret]

thats an expensive drone

[golden nexus]

you normally make plutonium rods for drones and then last for hours/days when in them

most of the time nuclear is so logestically complex than the fuel is used for drones ofr that though

[oak nymph]

That's expensive and complex

[golden nexus]

yes,, but its funny when you put a stack in an explorer and you check on it after 24 hours and it still says 49 remaining

[swift turret]

batteries are more simple I usually just siphon from my aluminum production. Add some sulfur and can make like a few hundred batteries

[oak nymph]

But I could try I won't need a lot of rode and I will need some alternate recipe

[oak nymph]

I've heard sulfur is rare

[swift turret]

Rare?

[oak nymph]

Like there is not a lot of it

[versed cosmos]

There aren't many sulfur nodes

[zealous urchin]

there is 10-12k and not many uses for it

[versed cosmos]

I think it's more about positioning than how much there is

[golden nexus]

generally sulphur is tied to power generation in multiple way

[versed cosmos]

I find that's the challenge of the late game. The raw resources you need aren't near each other anymore.

[zealous urchin]

u use it for uranium sure but no more than 3-4k for whole map unless u make more by conversion

[wispy osprey]

Gotta love when my PS5 drops to 10fps when I'm pulling out a blueprint mk2

[zealous urchin]

u use some for nitro fuel but realy 2.4k u will be swimming in it

[swift turret]

if you already have uranium and are making rods you likely have nuclear plants and have sulfur to spare for some battries

[zealous urchin]

conclusion: dont stress about sulfur

[oak nymph]

I don't lol

How many/ min would be well over enough battery

[zealous urchin]

i would suggest using leached caterium even

[cunning glade]

can u place a oil or miner in blueprints without a node

[swift turret]

depends how much you need and want to send into storage

battries are also used for your personal transport if you use the dune buggy

[oak nymph]

Idk men how much I need I want to set up battery factory before a drone network

[oak nymph]

I never have and never will

[swift turret]

If you use trucks its also used for that

[golden nexus]

Wht i do is convert the node, eg battries = 1 bauxite node, if your using a lot of drones convert a pure, if not convert a normal node

[feral jay]

I generally do either 100 or 200 a minute, depending on how ambitious my plans are for a specific playthrough

[jaunty jewel]

it might be hard to preplan how many batteries you need for drones without planning out how many drones your going to use

[oak nymph]

Damn

[oak nymph]

Good idea I'm gonna try that

[feral jay]

It's easier than it sounds, battery production tends to lend itself to those kind of numbers naturally

[swift turret]

I did 50 for my first then adjusted. Used a summer sloop to make 100

[golden nexus]

drones can always be converted back to trains later to recover the fuel source for more drones

[swift turret]

use trains to make batteries for drones xd

[feral jay]

And that, after you grow out, you can turn a good number of drone supply lines into train supply lines

[zealous urchin]

then transport those batteries to drones via trains

[swift turret]

genius

[zealous urchin]

[feral jay]

There's a great spot in Lake Forest that I usually use for battery production, easily enough resources within 500M to hit 200/min

[swift turret]

dont forget to transport the drones via drones by trains

[jaunty jewel]

use trucks to transport mats for power to power trains to make batteries for drones

[golden nexus]

you mean drone in the portable miners at 300/min ?

[swift turret]

it would be funny if we could use trucks to transport drones

[oak nymph]

Where is the lake forest I don't know what area are called what

[jaunty jewel]

use tractors to transport fuel for the trucks that transport mats for power to power trains to make batteries for drones

[feral jay]

Just northeast of the bamboo fields, east of crater lake

[stray summit]

QUESTION!!!
what is the most detailed item in the game
(i am on phase 3- working to get phase 4. so nothing quantum, please)

[strong fiber]

New flat bed car for drones would be peak

[oak nymph]

Ok it's a green area

[jaunty jewel]

wdym by "detailed"

[swift turret]

something quantum

hope that helps!

[strong fiber]

Definitely

[feral jay]

At phase 3? Probably computers

[zealous urchin]

in phase 4 its probably heavy frame

[stray summit]

well copper ingots are... smooth. no details.

[strong fiber]

Probably ballistic warp drives hope that helps!

[oak nymph]

Adaptive control unit are sick

[jaunty jewel]

so you mean most detailed texture wise?

[stray summit]

thats the last phase, not on that yet.
im thinking that the radio contol unit is the most detailed in my perspective

[feral jay]

@oak nymph no, that's the Spire Coast, Lake Forest is about 2KM south

[stray summit]

wires and shit, you can almost about read the symbols on there

[strong fiber]

Adaptive control unit

[oak nymph]

Can you send a screenshot?

[stray summit]

lemme go in my creative world and see how cool it looks

[jaunty jewel]

i think everyone is misreading what this guys saying lmao

[swift turret]

idk what he asked

[strong fiber]

Adaptive control unit looks cool what you mean😭

[jaunty jewel]

its just a sphere

[stray summit]

i asked the most detailed item in the game
ex: copper ingots arent detailed, radio control units are detailed

texture-wise

[swift turret]

oh probably the toilet in the hub

[covert quarry]

true i still wonder is is better to have 1 big factory for everything or build everything on diffrent nodes

[strong fiber]

Word🗣️

[versed cosmos]

everything on different nodes

you can build everything in one place but oh my god you make the game so much harder for yourself

[swift turret]

mega factories are fun for that reason

[versed cosmos]

just build factories near the resources they need

yeah i see the appeal

[oak nymph]

@feral jay oh ok I haven't explored that yet it's going to be my next exploration

[swift turret]

imkibz made me wanna make a mega factory

[strong fiber]

New challenge idea: use all the nodes while only being able to build 1 factory for everything in the game including power

[oak nymph]

Is it dangerous

[zealous urchin]

thermal prop rocket and nucular pasta are detailed

[strong fiber]

Literally everything in the game has to come to 1 factory

[jaunty jewel]

nuclear pasta is cool

[strong fiber]

And you need to finish the game

[stray summit]

k im in my creative world
what would you think would look better as a conveyor picture (as you can see in #screenshots )
mk6 or mk1

[jaunty jewel]

i wanted to do this for a little bit but never got round to it

[strong fiber]

Imagine belting fluids

[covert quarry]

i mean it makes it look so ugly cz of how messy it is and production is slow even on pure nodes

[covert quarry]

so like connect everything?

[zealous urchin]

there was this one guy who made 80k /m packaged water

[strong fiber]

You have to use every node in the game

[jaunty jewel]

that would be so insanely laggy

[golden nexus]

don't let something like this #screenshots message fool you, some of the buildings there only have a single node or pair of impures running into them, late game smelters etc.. get very large eg this is an example of 2xnormal copper nodes + 1xnormal iron node #screenshots message

[covert quarry]

let me get to phase 5 first😭

[swift turret]

no do it now

[zealous urchin]

#screenshots message

the logistic shaft is insane

[covert quarry]

bet

[versed cosmos]

use all the uranium nodes phase 1

[covert quarry]

yea i'm not really talented when it comes to building i just need my stuff perfect not beautiful and even that i cant do

[strong fiber]

What is bro doing with allat packaged water

[zealous urchin]

how am i supposed to know 😆

[covert quarry]

so every node and only 1 source of "power"?

[zealous urchin]

probably trains it to places that dont have water

[versed cosmos]

drinking it

[covert quarry]

does storage also need 2 be connected?

[zealous urchin]

so one doesnt need to build near it

[versed cosmos]

ficsit's most hydrated pioneer

[zealous urchin]

least

[swift turret]

making everything except a bottled water for himself

[strong fiber]

No limitations except you have to use every node in the game and there can only be once place where you producing anything

[zealous urchin]

actualy now that i think of it im starting to like that idea more and more

[stray summit]

im in my creative world now
whats the item?

the quantum item?

[swift turret]

idk

[golden nexus]

Selling it as alien spring sparkling bottled water only $9.99/litre, freshly imported

[zealous urchin]

instead of building on water train it

[swift turret]

I just said what you didnt wanna hear

[stray summit]

crazy

wait dark matter crystals look badass

[covert quarry]

wait how many nodes are there?

[zealous urchin]

he wants to decomission norwegian bottled water

[strong fiber]

Uhm

Alot

[golden nexus]

New late recipie "ionized sparkling water" please ship to space elevator withing the next 30 minutes

[strong fiber]

Like over 400 nodes

[covert quarry]

oh thats alright lowkey

[stray summit]

check #screenshots
dark matter crystals look yummy

[jaunty jewel]

would that mean you would need to make max nuclear power lmao

[strong fiber]

Yes

[covert quarry]

but i wouldn't run around scanning to make sure i used every single one😂

[strong fiber]

Use radar towers

[covert quarry]

power isn't a problem i think

[strong fiber]

And place them around the map

[golden nexus]

Just ofr iron, theres 39 impure, 42 normal, 46 pure giving an extraction rate of 92,100/mine

[jaunty jewel]

if you have to use all nodes then

[bronze storm]

i regret to inform you but you have lost the game

[golden nexus]

The real irony is you only need about 15-25 nodes to complete the game in a reasonable time eg < 150 hours

[strong fiber]

What would you even make

[swift turret]

https://tenor.com/view/subnautica-subnautica-below-zero-leviathan-chelicerate-subnautica-chelicerate-gif-23423162

[zealous urchin]

some screws

[golden nexus]

Steel Canisters for all that water

[oak nymph]

I'm 130 hours in and not even close to the end wth

[strong fiber]

Uhm im at 150 hours on this play through and im doing nuclear

[covert quarry]

i'll start with the rare ones first like SAM etc.

[strong fiber]

But im phase 5 though

[strong fiber]

Oh i forgot about the water bruh

You aint gonna make me collect all the water on the map😭

[covert quarry]

will take us maybe 1K hours i move raelly slow to overkill everything it's the best way to not struggle and have shortages

[strong fiber]

Maybe like 250 at max

[jaunty jewel]

ive "beaten" the game with ~70h before

[strong fiber]

But thats like really slow

[golden nexus]

92,100 / 30 = 3070 smelters

[covert quarry]

if u speedrun

[strong fiber]

Bro

What😭

[zealous urchin]

speedrun is 8 hours

without major glitches

[golden nexus]

multiplayer games with expirenced people will complete the game even with poor cordination in < 24 hours

[strong fiber]

If it takes you over 250 hours to complete the game your doing something horribly wrong

[jaunty jewel]

its a sandbox

[covert quarry]

true

[covert quarry]

i js enjoy the game no need to speedrun yet lol

[stray summit]

ficsit has hired you so you can exploit planets the way you want

DONT LET THEM DOWN

[jaunty jewel]

and its also a game people can do what they want

[zealous urchin]

depends
there are speed players and decorative players

[strong fiber]

Well assuming your not building crazy structures and allat and just tryna enjoy the game

[strong fiber]

Im in between honestly

[golden nexus]

There was a game i played and we did something like a from scratch max vert framework build in something like 40 minutes, this included the mod frame, the rplate, the steel everything.....

[strong fiber]

I like decorating but i also dont want to take a long time to complete the game

[jaunty jewel]

then that is your playstyle

[zealous urchin]

my idea of decorating is placing machines upside down

[strong fiber]

How?

[zealous urchin]

infinite nudge

and rotate