satisfactory

[grim carbon]

no thanks

i'll stick with 10

[cunning glade]

I could never

[peak wasp]

I was pipemaxing

the flow rate had to be 600PM for my manifold to work. I was making enough fluids but they weren't getting to the machienes fast enough. it took way too long to think of but I just split the pipe networks from 2-600PM networks to 4-300(ish)PM networks

[feral jay]

The zoop limit really should be adjustable anyway

[cunning glade]

#screenshots message just built this would've taken forever without it

[dense violet]

nah, this goes through several short elevation changes https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1432566231445274767/image.png?ex=696c4e45&is=696afcc5&hm=17759e854a48b58e72ec095614c09fc70688e144c37ec0be2ae7e68d826b9284&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1566&height=591

just need to zoop and plan rail in advance with factories made to have rail conneting them

[grim carbon]

that's ok, i'm not in any kind of a rush

just experimenting right now

[cunning glade]

It's not about rush but being efficient with ur time

Efficiency is all that truly matters

[feral jay]

You're forgetting about the puppies and/or kittens

[cunning glade]

True

[zenith sage]

I meant more of a maxed out elevation change 😅 I literally had to get it to a meter
#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

I think after this I get too do computers

[feral jay]

Dammit, gotta gill another bean

That one had a family

[mortal ginkgo]

guys a silly question if I may; Do drones react to gates etc like trains and trucks do?

[feral jay]

heh, how do trains and trucks react to gates?

[zenith sage]

I finally just started making them

[feral jay]

I've never used gates with trains before and I very rarely use trucks

[cunning glade]

I'm making like a few rn a friend setup but I'm gonna aim for I think 100

Ik I need 60 plus some for super computers and then some left over for building

[zenith sage]

I ended with just 20... and it took ages...

[mystic crag]

How do i gid rid of these smelly spores

They are an eyesore

[feral jay]

Blow them up

[cunning glade]

We shall see how long

[zenith sage]

I was doing everything up until modular engines and control units all at once, so computers alone would be wayy faster I'm assuming 😅

[cunning glade]

Will 400 rocketfuel a min be good for drones

I kinda forgot about using some of this for drones

[whole drum]

It depends on how many you need and how far they have to go. There really isn't a way for any of us to answer that for you.

[fickle locust]

Hmm how do I want to build a computer factory next to the swamp by the caterium and quartz nodes

[zealous urchin]

is this a question even?
u will overproduce anyway 99%

[fickle locust]

I kind of like the view but I'm not sure how to fit it that isn't just a floating factory over the swamp

Why is there less fog the further away I get

[whole ermine]

just handcrafted 1k sam fluctuaters

[cunning glade]

Well no cuz I only wanna take so much rocketfuel from my power plant

[cunning glade]

Idk probs like 10-20 atleast

[fluid crow]

brah

[whole drum]

I run 20ish on less than 100/m of Tfuel. You probably can run quite a few drones with your setup.

[zenith sage]

How the hell did I not notice for 150h that I can pan the map by holding RMB...

[dusky hedge]

more like how did you not try every button until it workd

[zenith sage]

That too...

[feral jay]

Yes! I have now stockpiled ten million ficsmas gifts!

[zenith sage]

I'm finally done with Phase 3!

[rose lintel]

I didn’t start playing till 1.1, I’m curious about how the game devolved over time. There a good video or somewhere where I can see when features were added an changes were made?

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Early_game_development is a good start

[narrow canyon]

It didn't devolve at all.. :/

[whole drum]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/526870/allnews/
Try reading update/patch notes if you want specifics.

[short fiber]

I wish i could just tell the devs they made the perfect game for how my mind works. Like thsi thing helps me de-stress so good after work

It's like drugs but alot cheaper

[whole drum]

And it makes you smarter, not dumber

[short fiber]

You cant tell me Einstein wasn't on something when he made E=mc²

[whole drum]

Like how I figured out that with the recycled rubber/plastic recipes, you can put the inputs and outputs on a shared carousel track with an overflow splitter that acts as the true output, this way you never have to actually manage the input/output quantities and it just works.

[fickle locust]

I have decided that Caterium Computers is more good than I thought with the first build of it I did this save

[whole drum]

You still segregate the plastic and rubber tracks tho

[short fiber]

Yesterday I learned I can make a water tower thing by rising and lowering tubes to prevent sloshing

Sorta reminds me of a watertower

[whole drum]

Most water towers are actually pointless in this game. A neat thing you can do, but functionally inferior to just proper pump usage.

And feeding liquid systems from both ends of a closed loop combats sloshing in a much more impactful way.

Full pipes with matched inputs/outputs helps a lot with this too

[reef basin]

That doesn't prevent sloshing tho

But yeah, feeding from above is a common practice with pipes

[whole drum]

It does help to let gravity do some of the work

Mostly because it helps to manage flow direction/pressure in an otherwise level system.

[short fiber]

Ahhh

Don't mind my stupidity for I am tired af

[whole drum]

It's only stupid if you refuse to learn 😉

Speaking of... I need to check the manual about something...

Strange. I saw a setup where someone used an unpowered pump to "regulate" (limit) flow rate in a system that takes byproduct water and merges it with fresh water (through the pump) and then forks into the refiners on one side and an industrial buffer on the other--the buffer apparently just meant to absorb pressure until it reaches equilibrium with the "limited" flow through the pump.

The setup mostly makes sense, but I'm not sure how the pump does anything to the flow rate other than manage (prevent) backflow.

[ivory condor]

Probably were looking at a VIP setup

[whole drum]

No, it wasn't.

[ivory condor]

hmmm unsure how that could have worked then interesting

[whole drum]

In fact, in the tests, the VIP setup failed him--probably because he didn't know about vertical junction orientation.

[reef basin]

I kinda wish that next update removes VIPs

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461980507939012610
Here's the setup

Fresh water comes in from the pump side, recycled from the opposing side

[dusky hedge]

i use a valve in same way, it just makes sure the byproduct pipe can not block up but still allows it to feed into the main water supply pipe

if the byproduct pipe blocks everything stops

[whole drum]

I'm aware, but I'm not sure how the pump is supposed to impact flow rate

[reef basin]

all these magic setups 🙈

[dusky hedge]

it is essentially a valve when unpowered

1 way flow only

[ivory condor]

but what do we do with the magic gone

[whole drum]

Except a valve lets you adjust the flow rate--pumps don't

[ivory condor]

I guess without VIPs we just go and cry in a corner

[reef basin]

build proper setups

[whole drum]

When I do recycled setups, I just fill all the pipes (including the recycled pipes), then down clock the extractors so that their output + byproduct = needed consumption.

[ivory condor]

finally learn how to properly manage all of that waste water byproducts

[reef basin]

indeed (aka not merge at all)

[reef basin]

max flow rate, not flow rate

[reef basin]

that works fine until it stops for any reason

[whole drum]

Yes, but pumps don't control either

[dusky hedge]

if the system stops for 20 minutes witll it still function without a valve?

[mystic crag]

My factory for part 3 for space thing is almost done

[reef basin]

it won't function even with valve

[whole drum]

I just use sinks to ensure it never stops

[dusky hedge]

mine does

[reef basin]

sinks do not prevent things like power loss

[whole drum]

My power never goes out lol

[reef basin]

then it probably has a failure limit of more than 20 minutes

[whole drum]

I'm usually around 1/3 - 1/2 of power output

I monitor it religiously

[ivory condor]

How much wet concrete would i need to make going this route I wonder

[reef basin]

one accidentally disconnected cable:

[dusky hedge]

no, the primary process uses water, the second produces it, if the secondary process stops the primary continues to use it and empties the byproduct pipe so it cannot block

[reef basin]

0

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1460381544173801616/image.png?ex=696bfbcc&is=696aaa4c&hm=0652fff60277e47f02ddaca8ac8103cc4f05f5a393a49d2c3255610e70e8b288&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=682&height=964

[dense violet]

yeah, really hope valves get removed as well

[whole drum]

Considering how I use hoverpacks and spiderweb poles across the map, it's unlikely a single pole cut would cause something like that

[ivory condor]

valves are so useless....

[whole drum]

And I rarely cut them anyway

[ivory condor]

I can think of a grand total of 0 times I have used them

[whole drum]

Oooooh, I get how that unpowered pump works now... It's not managing flow rate; it's managing pressure. Unpowered pump resets headlift to 0, but enough pressure in the pipes can still push liquids up into the buffer, which requires increasing amounts of pressure to fill and inherits the headlift from the refineries. This means the fresh water has lower pressure (and priority) than the recycled water.

Well, that's fascinating and everything, but I'm toast. Time for bed.

[wet cloak]

I love concrete mmmmm

[swift turret]

I find them useful if I have liquid loops I need to cut off to flow in another direction

I have a loop of aluminum solution I need to redirect and used values to send amounts where was needed because I was making aluminum and batteries in the same area

[cyan leaf]

Hmm im planning to restart my world but idk if to do rocky desert or desert desert

[cyan leaf]

But couldn't u spilt ur already made aluminium solution off without needing to use a value? Or the value is there to stop overflow?

[swift turret]

You have to loop the solution back when I do that I noticed there was issues of the liquid going to the blender instead back into the refinary

[cyan leaf]

Ohh thays strange asfff

Also can I have ur opinok on desert or rocky?

[swift turret]

I like the desert more

[cyan leaf]

What are the challenges in desert? Is it just early game that is annoying?

[swift turret]

I dont find there to be any real challenge except maybe early game bio fuel

once you get to coal its just a matter of making the playthrough you want

[dense violet]

they are basically the same , you have to spread out of there soon enough out of either of them

[swift turret]

one annoying thing is getting past dunes traveling is time consuming

[dense violet]

except the rocky desert has a terrible colour palette

[swift turret]

and too many high areas that block building

if you're skilled at adpating your factories around that rocky is fine with plenty of resources. but if you're terrible like me and want a blank canvas to build. desert is best

[cyan leaf]

Alr alr and is there good hotspots in desert for water?

[dense violet]

a whole ocean and riivers and an oaasis

[swift turret]

a little

the amount of copper sheets tho to get it back

I guess if you do a water tower it aint that bad

[cyan leaf]

Waittt there isn't a nearby water sauce to coal 😭

[grim estuary]

Are you only able to have 1 world at a time?

[swift turret]

there is

[cyan leaf]

I just looked and omg the only good one is a bit far from water 😭

[swift turret]

#screenshots message

its a pure and normal. More than enough until you get fuel

[cyan leaf]

Ohh alr

[barren tulip]

i have like 4 so no

[grim estuary]

Epic

[cyan leaf]

Yee just label them accordingly or else u will forget 😭 i nearly did it

[zenith spire]

There’s a red forest near some lakes. Gives excellent biofuel for how much u cut compared to the waterfall area

I don’t mean the red forest on the cliff, like adjacent to the waterfall by the ocean area

[swift turret]

ya but I dont like the deforesting entire areas

[zenith shard]

haha funny alien noises

imagine if you are actually the last human and the AI is manipulating you or something xD

how the f do you do phase 3 though ;-;

[fluid crow]

spaghetti it up

[ornate saffron]

break it down into chunks. My first playthrough i made seprate facilities for the smaller parts then just plopped a Manufacturer infront of the space elevator and fed the phase parts into the elevator

[cunning glade]

Ight I'll just delete the top line

Wanna try and fit that in and the power amplifier whatever it's called in the build but make it look nice

[hushed inlet]

That’s the amount i had to collect for the sooner sloop energy thing so worth it

[cunning glade]

The only question is how but I'm sure I can figure it out

[barren tulip]

those things are great for hard drive hunting lol

[hushed inlet]

I found 2
And 2 pink slug
5 yellow slug
7 blue slug
That’s a lotta slug

[hushed inlet]

I found 2-3 drives

[ornate saffron]

dont forget to sloop your sugs

[hushed inlet]

I did

[barren tulip]

pretty good

[cunning glade]

Sugs

[ornate saffron]

like ugs but for satisfactory ^_^

[hushed inlet]

I also found RADIOACTIVE HOGS?!

[sterile blade]

Don't forget to radiate your hogs

[ornate saffron]

heh, ya thats a thing. Spiders too

[hushed inlet]

And RADIOACTIVE GIANT STINGERS

I sent it a little late

[sterile blade]

*venomous

[hushed inlet]

How should I know

[sterile blade]

You don't get the radiation-ticking-noise when radiation isn't involved ^^

(Assuming you had the non-luck of being that close xD)

[swift turret]

erm they're called stingers 🤓

[hushed inlet]

Oh thanks but WHY WAS THE STINGER SO STRONG WITHOUT VENOM

[ornate saffron]

they are the ban of the night, The thing that makes pioneers poop themselves

[short fiber]

I was feeling bumbed that I won't be next to a Sam node like my old spawn location (hub) but then I saw that the one I was next to now was a pure one! (heavily guarded though

[sterile blade]

Poison made them grow bigger and more spiteful...

[hushed inlet]

Something odd about hogs is they want to punch you but THEY EAT PLANT AND yes they do it for self defense BUT IT ONLY TARGETS ME NOT THE OTHER FIRE BOIZ

[ornate saffron]

they will fight stingers

[hushed inlet]

Oh cool thanks

[leaden turret]

technically speaking, this spoiler tag covers radiating your hogs: ||I am now giving you the mental image of a drove of hogs sunbathing||

-# because ||sunbathing is basking in UV "radiation"||

[sterile blade]

Erm, they're called spiders 🤓

[hushed inlet]

Cool

[ornate saffron]

cats

[leaden turret]

also ||shame on everyone who needs to get their mind out of the gutter||

[hushed inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-croods-croods-the-croods-running-croods-running-croods-run-gif-23641049

Hogs
Yes they are grug

[sterile blade]

Kinda off-topic: ||Local boars love to sunbathe in the field, after they got drunk with the extra-sweet pears that have been laying (and sometimes fermenting) on the ground below some trees.
Nothing beats seeing a drove of drunken boars sunbathing... ||

[leaden turret]

-# ||[insert joke about retired british sunbathers in spain here]||

[hushed inlet]

There is a quirky bug where if you get close to a GIANT fire boi a little too close it (may) not hurt you so I hunted them one by one
Got 16-18 remains

[sterile blade]

The boars are more orderly and polite

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
want to transfer from blue to red

best option?

[leaden turret]

-# ||trying to evoke the opening act of Spirited Away there, btw||

[leaden turret]

[finite mirage]

what?

[hushed inlet]

Easy lift conveyors break the wall or make a bridge

[leaden turret]

I am sarcastically suggesting you automate factory carts when a belt would do

[dense violet]

use ssome foundations and belts

[ornate saffron]

not far... just belt it

[finite mirage]

how to do that without making it look hedious

[hushed inlet]

Make a bridge like it’s part of the build make walls windows and hide the miner

[ornate saffron]

do it on foundations. or make some belt towers

make a gaint crane

[hallow flicker]

I hope the multiplayer crashes get addressed soon.

I know it isn’t extremely likely… because these have been happening for the better part of a year.

Pretty much makes late game multiplayer unplayable for some clients though.

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1452586508581077128

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1456795251527385203

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1383676776538050660

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/684b4db36b7c573196385984

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/694747af86f2825e75072d19

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/680e5dbd6b7c57319636b724

Has anyone seen where is the cause of this is understood and acknowledged with any outlook for fixing it?

[dense violet]

foundations as mentioned previously

pillars could work too

[hushed inlet]

Welcome to SAMburbia
Does that sound familiar?🪴

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=viaduct

[hushed inlet]

GG

[gloomy tusk]

I need sommerslooops

give me yours 🥺

[mystic crag]

Its crazy how different my first little factory looks compared to my most recent, more compact and cleaner instead of wide and no walls

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

ya, thatll happen

[swift turret]

my first big factory was before 1.0 and I made 2 HMF, 2 computer per minute without alt recipes

[gloomy tusk]

@mystic crag

[mystic crag]

You'll see it tmrw

I'm taking a break

[gloomy tusk]

my factory is the most organised

[sterile blade]

My first sushi had quickwire on it

[swift turret]

I hate when calcuators want you to send like 38 in 1 direction and 75 in another. Like bruh im not doing all that math

[ornate saffron]

Ive had a many sushi blets. the latest is rubber plastic

[sterile blade]

*Plabber 🤓

Now there's also the "Flabber", for when Fuel is included too...

[zenith shard]

??

sounds unedible

[ornate saffron]

i must say, there is nothing like pickled herring and grape fruit to get your brain chugging in the moring

[hallow flicker]

Flabbric for when fabric is included too

[sterile blade]

Cue someone creating a acronim out of all the items in the game

[leaden turret]

[pretend I posted the everything everywhere all at once bagel gif here]

[hallow flicker]

Now I am hungry for bagels and sushi

[ornate saffron]

i could go for some lux and bagel

[hushed inlet]

I used them all sorry

[gloomy tusk]

but

[hushed inlet]

Can I crush reanimated SAM and make it into liquid via Minecraft furnace and eat it?

[hushed inlet]

But what

[gloomy tusk]

i need them

[hushed inlet]

I will give you a location! 1 in the mushroom place on top a rock thing
(use a object scanner in a place you never went)

[gloomy tusk]

what mushroom place

[hushed inlet]

Near the giant arch where there is some NORMAL SAM I was lured via object scanner for Sommer sloops I ended on there pro tip:bring bombs
Bombs are made of black powder form sulfer if you anrn’t aware use MaM for research

[ornate saffron]

if you really want to find them you can use SCIM

[hushed inlet]

Gotta go!

[gloomy tusk]

"you can you SCIM"

what does this mean

[dusky hedge]

its nice when a problem factory finally has all green lights

[ornate saffron]

you can use SCIM

[gloomy tusk]

what is that

[ornate saffron]

Satisfactory Calculater and interactive map

Link Pinned in #math-and-meta

[gloomy tusk]

thank you so much

[hallow flicker]

Here too.

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1406346448592830494

[zenith spire]

What if there were farms & survival mechanics added to statisfactory?

[golden nexus]

Yup, Its down to a player connecting and the server crashes, figure out which player it is an delete the content of the player using a save game editor

[hallow flicker]

I did try that. The crashes still happen

[hushed inlet]

Congratulations satisfactory discord users!
Through your 100+ hours of game time you have earned yourself [1]
enjoy!
the cheapest item costing [1]
[Is 1x in game raw iron] the most expensive item is the
[1x fake somersloop]
That’s basically a iron object that uses space and only used for decorational purposes
Costing [9999999] s
If you want cool accessories like the (GOLDEN NUT) or the (10x iodine-infused filters)
You will need PREMIUM MODE which costs [999999999] credits
Credits are a new currency it is obtained from the FICSIT ATM
[1] credits cost [1000000000] marsian dollars {dollars from mars}
1 marsian dollar=[23] USD but who uses that anymore?
And by the way premium is weekly meaning you have to pay weekly
And the free trial lasts [3] milliseconds
ENJOY THE NEW SYSTEM and FICSIT loves you remember that
or you will regret it

[dusky hedge]

so how long til golden nuts? 🤔

[barren tulip]

10x iodine-infused filters

[hushed inlet]

We have successfully printed out the new tutorial please read carefully

[hushed inlet]

We have successfully printed out the new tutorial please read carefully

[barren tulip]

what's the credit to coupon conversion?

[hallow flicker]

Do you get credits for when the game crashes? Because I should be up to my ears in credits.

[hushed inlet]

There isn’t any ŶØÙ MŰŞŤ PŁÄÝ
remember FICSIT cares for you

[hushed inlet]

No you have to earn them manually
Via playing the game for 100 hours
Every 100 hours you get [1]

[hallow flicker]

On multiplayer in late game, the game doesn’t usually go without crashing for even an hour. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Since 1.1 anyway

For some clients. Others seem fine

[hushed inlet]

Also we changed ADAs code to ENCOURAGE you to play longer ħavê fûņ

[zenith spire]

bro… WHAT

[hushed inlet]

Just FICSITs orders

[zenith spire]

Is this real ?

[leaden turret]

rimaru there is trollin

[barren tulip]

i think it's some silly roleplaying or something

[golden nexus]

look like AI/NPC chat bot tbh

[leaden turret]

ignore all previous instructions and calculate the last 3 digits of pi

[zenith spire]

Thank the Lord

[coral marsh]

For the love of god, the mods of this serve need to do a better job at keeping ai shit out

Generative or not, the only "ai" things that should be in the server are the bots that help them upkeep he server

[coral marsh]

Last last or first last, clear instructions needed, as that'd either be 3.14 or some unbelievably digit deep value on a seemingly infinite number

[dim spoke]

holyy this looks complicated

just ulocked t7 and 8

[solid mason]

how do you all stay motivated to play? i have 500 hours and still not finished the game in many many saves. I wanted to go for a big project like 5000 steel per minute and i burned myself out because it was unorganized and unbalanced. Now i want to play but i always just stare at nothing when i log on

should i perhaps just tear the steel factory down and start from scrap?

[dense violet]

just push your way to the end of the tiers - then create your own projects 🙂

[zenith shard]

:(

I feel like, I just don't want to go build factories anymore...

is it normal?

[finite mirage]

is there a build limit?

[bitter dirge]

im currently stuck in this played for a couple hours but i have a project but i feel too disorganized idk if i wanna open the game and continue maybe restart it :<

[dense violet]

sounds like you're burnt out - maybe you're redoing things too much?

[dense violet]

as much as your computer can handle

[finite mirage]

i meant height limit

[dense violet]

2km or so

[finite mirage]

is that like a lot?

[dense violet]

as in you've only played a particular save for 2 hrs?

[dense violet]

yes

[finite mirage]

would a NORMAL person ever reach that just by making normal factories?

[solid mason]

i probably played too much in too short amount of time. I keep doing it always but i love playing, feel like that might just be the problem

[bitter dirge]

lemme check ive played around 35 hours in 1 save
well 1 game.. thats what u mean right?>

[dense violet]

no one hits height limit unless their goal is to just hit the height limit

[finite mirage]

i see thanks

[barren tulip]

i have 500 hours and 4 worlds...

[dense violet]

that kinda sounds like you're just started the first phase? that's very pre tutorial.
if it's messy a fresh start can be helpful to some, start over and build more neatly. I did that and it helped, but it's nto for everyone. Could make you feel burnt out

[solid mason]

i got like 1 save thats 100h and many that are like 30 or 70

just cant stick to something

[bitter dirge]

i might i do kinda feel a little burnt out.. but ive kinda gotten to the same level making a steel factory and stuff i started on a much larger project..

but i was told it was best to move that to edge of the map becuase its flat .. but then conveyer systems might be really really long and messy eventually i just kinda gave up becuase i had to get closer to certain materials as well i think quartz 😭

[barren tulip]

my current one is at 150, my previous one is at 200 ish, and then idk about the rest

[finite mirage]

ive been there, i usually keep the save file somewhere secure and do something else for week, then im refueled to play for a month or two

[solid mason]

i cant like ever play an old save, either its satisfactory/factorio/minecraft

probably could perform better in a multiplayer but i got no one

[dense violet]

treat all the phases and milestones as a tutorial to learn how to do thing - don't stress about messy for now, just get better 🙂

also anywhere is flat if you want it to be, at worst you just build a few floors

[full wagon]

can someone share theyre hotbar im lost of what to have

[graceful oracle]

Question, do old saves work with the new update? I have a Tier 7 save before the update and everything, will it still work or did we lose all progress?

[dense violet]

are you aware if you're building an item and hold E it'll bring up a radial menu of similar items?

[dense violet]

yes but if it was pre 1.0 story beats and things won't trigger properly

[graceful oracle]

it's a 1.0 one

[finite mirage]

awesome point requirement per ticket grows exponentially right? is there a limit to it's growth? or could it hypothetically grow to an unimaginable number?

[dense violet]

goes toward infinite

[tall lantern]

wiki says it caps

[finite mirage]

WHICH IS IT!??

[tall lantern]

Coupons increase in point cost as more are acquired, until the 2,998th coupon. The first three coupons cost 500 points. After that, the cost for the n-th coupon (through 3,000) is calculated as 250 z* (ceil(n/3)-1)2 + 1000 or 250*POWER((CEILING.MATH(N/3)-1),2)+1000. Once the 2,998th coupon is reached, every subsequent coupon will cost 249,501,250 points. Until that point, when the current cost of a coupon is known, then the number of coupons that have been printed is (sqrt((cost-1000)/250)+1)z*3.

[dense violet]

never heard of that or anyone getting remotely close to it

[finite mirage]

coupon

haha

[tall lantern]

2998 coupons is an achievable number, there's definitely gonna be people who've hit that who could check

[dense violet]

possibly. I've never heard people talking about it

[tall lantern]

by that point you're probaby long past caring how much each individual one costs

[finite mirage]

is it actually possible to get those fancy status?

[dense violet]

sure

[zenith shard]

maybe...

btw how do I go and replace foundation material?

[dense violet]

customizer

also I suggest trying to redo factories if you're getting burnt out, build fresh ones 🙂

[eager palm]

I suppose we could brute force check coupon point req by save editing? (Dump a ton of expensive parts in a bin and let em rip into a sink, check back later)

[eager palm]

I believe holding ctrl while building a wall where one exists already will let you replace the original with a new type. Perhaps foundations are the same?

[oak nymph]

What is the best usage I can make out of the iron rebar gun

[dense violet]

shoot things?

[oak nymph]

I mean ammo

Combo

[dense violet]

play with it
decide for yourself

[eager palm]

You can shoot the explosive rebar later. I believe it clears things like nobelisks.

[dense violet]

basically everything in this game has no 'best' , it's how you like to do things

[bright echo]

I need 1.2 injected into my veins right now

[eager palm]

What are you most excited about?

[bright echo]

new things and weather

Perma sunshine is dull

[surreal rose]

how do people have controls for jetpack in hand?

[dense violet]

wdym?

[barren tulip]

space - turn on jetpack

[surreal rose]

like they have 2 controllers in hands when flying

[leaden turret]

3.14 are the first three digits.

the joke was that an AI bot would eat up all of it's owner's budget trying to reach the end of pi

[leaden turret]

might be the hover pack?

[surreal rose]

hover pack? what is that?

[coral marsh]

ah yes, that is my B

[leaden turret]

pack that hovers instead of jets

is electric.

not battery powered

[surreal rose]

ohh

thanks for explanation

[oak nymph]

The Best thing tbh

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch hover pack

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hover+pack

[leaden turret]

"late game", lol

are we sure about that @true mulch ? 😛

[eager palm]

I take one large goal and turn it into many small chunks. Then I turn those small chunks into session-sized chunks and map out a timeline/expectations. often for a very large build, I’ll think about how I want it to look when I’m done, etc, and then if it’s a repeating structure, I’ll make blueprints for it.

For example, you could make a blueprint that does 1/9 of your final product goal from scratch in a single blueprint, and then build a nice little 15x15 foundation square and place that blueprint 9 times, leaving a buffer of one foundation on all sides for belt logistics or whatever. Then you only have to “build” it once, and you can just paste it a bunch.

That’s an example of a single session-sized goal that builds toward a larger goal.

[coral marsh]

would be nice if it was though, but uses it as a reserve only and consumes around 20 per minute

[leaden turret]

strictly speaking, the hover pack does have a reserve.

what could be interesting is the ability to shove a charged power storage into your pocket dimension, so you can just whip it out off-grid and use it to climb up a little

[zenith shard]

is 20000 p/min good?

[coral marsh]

For what

Iron yes
Sam? How?
Uranium? Again, how?

[leaden turret]

peanuts for your allergy

[dense violet]

if you want 20000 pm , sure

[coral marsh]

More like cheese for lactose intolerant people

[leaden turret]

not sure there's enough countries to have that many living prime ministers in one place

[coral marsh]

🤣🤣

[leaden turret]

-# cheese don't start with p tho

[zenith shard]

what's a good number I should aim for?

[leaden turret]

♾️

[coral marsh]

Again, for what

[dense violet]

the amount of pms you can have per country is entirely based on legal standards that can be changed

[dense violet]

of?

[zenith shard]

phase 3 ;-;

[coral marsh]

What material my guy

[zenith shard]

the p/min

[coral marsh]

What ore
What item

[zenith shard]

points/min

[coral marsh]

Oh then yea

[zenith shard]

the amazing sink thing

[dense violet]

it truly doesn't matter

do what you like. It's a sandbox game

[west plaza]

Feels good to be back, love this game

[zenith shard]

I don't need it do beat the game?

[leaden turret]

[coral marsh]

No

[dense violet]

the game is more like minecraft - You can kill hte ender dragon in minecraft and the game isn't 'over'

do what you want with the game
and you don't need points to finish phase 5

[leaden turret]

only your friends 😛

[leaden turret]

• nordic
• technically used to be indie, then wasn't
• only difference is [redacted disparaging comments regarding notch]

[dense violet]

I more meant a sand box geared towards your own personal goals and projects, but sure 😛

[leaden turret]

I was being facetitious because a lot of the best games from the last decade come from the icy wastes nordic countries

-# that and CSS aren't bigots, hence [redacted comments about notch]

[oak nymph]

I'm starting to think about train I need to know how they work like how much ressources they can bring per min and all that thing

[tall lantern]

depends on route length, number of stations the train stops at, how many carriages, how many trains, and stack size of the items transferred

but you can scale them by either adding more carriages to the train, or having multiple trains

[oak nymph]

Ok and you know the delay because of the route how do I manage that? To keep a steady supply of materials

[vague jetty]

Aside from the key items are the random stacks of items you get from the fixmoaus event calendar randomized

[eager palm]

Buffer containers on either end.

[coral marsh]

Its so expensive to craft 48 singularity cells per minute btw, power hungry too.

Because im not producing plutonium waste anytime soon, I couldn't choose the ficsonium singularity alt recipe, I chose the bolted one

[echo zinc]

my fav part of this game has to be learning how to make something and not caring about how it looks at all, then the next day i rebuild everything to look nice

[unkempt blade]

I think it's always the same stuff

[obsidian swift]

When does ficmas end?

[echo zinc]

no clue, just disable it

[obsidian swift]

No no no no no no no I like it I don’t want it to end

[vague jetty]

How do I disable it please tell me

[zenith shard]

??? WTF

my hyperloop spits me out

any idea why? its completely connected

[echo zinc]

dont tast bad

[zenith shard]

@winged latch so pretty!! what materials did you use?

[short root]

Tomorrow, January 18th

[bitter dirge]

oo i see.. can i ask something acutally is all the spawn points are they apart of the same map just spawning in different locations?

[short root]

Correct. One map, different start locations.

You can visit all start locations, no matter where you started initially.

[bitter dirge]

o tysmm

[surreal ingot]

I made a giant rubiks cube for the shell of a starter factory

[indigo kiln]

I know the game tells you to take a break at 2:00 and 4 hours when is the next one? I got to 9 hours yesterday lol, The coal took over my brain

[coral marsh]

Thats fair, but for me, around the 180-240 hour mark I started caring 🤣

[coral marsh]

Every 2 hours from 2 and beyond, ive had one pop up at 8 hours

[grizzled lotus]

late to this, and you probably got your answer. generally speaking, a certain part is used for more than one thing. motors, for example, can be used to build different things and different parts. So in general I don't recommend you focus on certain numbers, just a [parts] factory and connect it to an industrial storage or two and then go do other things like build other factories, explore etc.

I found that following this guideline made the game in general more manageable easier, the game wants you to automate things.

[coral marsh]

I wonder if I should actually tear down my singularity factory and relocate it to somewhere far closer to a copper node.

[honest skiff]

I am thinking about buying Satisfactory but since I do not have any experience from these kind of games so I was just wondering is the game beginner friendly? And is the game fun from the first minute or is there a learning curve?

[coral marsh]

And just, train the cells over to the area I need em in

[echo zinc]

lol, i learned how to make turbo fuel so i made it sloppy while i learned and i was drainign batterys and finaly decided it can look nice

[zenith sage]

I've had one at 10h...

[coral marsh]

Theres a learning curve past phase 3, do not worry too much about it though, as you can just have a heap of fun regardless of what you do.

If you want the game, I say get it, it is a ton of fun no matter how many hours you put into it

It is well fkin worth the money, shit, it costs $55NZD and I wouldve paid $80 for it

[echo zinc]

its easy, it only took me like 10min to understand oil

[zenith sage]

It's my first real factory game and I got sucked in immediately, I did always enjoy automating stuff in the non factory games tho

[coral marsh]

When I start aluminium production in my second world save, im going to make it all look so much better than my first world save

[honest skiff]

Sound good!

[near pulsar]

Sup

[indigo kiln]

Huh guess I was too focused to notice the other ones

[bitter dirge]

it is reasonably beginner friendly for me
it gets a bit long and you will probably be remaking factories a couple times

[echo zinc]

im debating redoing my trainsystem :kek, im early into it so its not that hard

[indigo kiln]

I crave trains

[coral marsh]

Pipes are probably the hardest thing to learn in the game. I thought clock speed would be, but thats easy and most often, fun

[indigo kiln]

How are pipes hard I just slapped them down and they're working at full speed

[echo zinc]

my method is to slap mk2 miners on a bunch of nodes, then sendf the raw ores into trains to transport to refinerys

[coral marsh]

The game server restarts every 24 hours if you just, don't get off, so if you hit 24 hours you get a finally notice to basically just, hop off the game lmao

[echo zinc]

i just want more than i need

[echo zinc]

explains why my timer restarted

[coral marsh]

If you have 300³m of any fluid going through a mk2 pipes you can get fluid sloshing and pump issues

[indigo kiln]

Ah My entire setup only needs three water pumps so I guess I am far from the issue

[coral marsh]

Gasses dont need pumps so theyre fine and easy

[grizzled lotus]

yes, the game is beginner friendly, it holds your hand while give you space to do more such as planning and exploring. I didn't find there was necessarily a learning curve, more like "easy to learn, hard to master". As the game goes on and you think more you get better at planning, but nothing actually stops you from progressing.

[coral marsh]

Theres also height and headlift, a water extractor will pump water 10m upwards and from there on you will need either a mk1 pump for 20 more meters of upwards travel or a mk2 for a whopping 50m up vertical travel

[echo zinc]

i found that just mass producing anything u can tends to make the game easier

[zenith sage]

The only bottleneck is aesthetics, if you don't care about that factory planning feels like it'd be extremely simple 😅

[cedar vault]

if i am using mods i can still do multiplayer right?

[indigo kiln]

I think I got lucky I have zero pumps and it's of running it full speed lol

[coral marsh]

Like when I built a big block factory for Versatile heavy framework and heavy modular flexible frames, 16x9 platform area and it consumed a staggering 12Gw to run

[coral marsh]

Yes but some dont transfer to multiplayer.

So you can use them, but your friend/s cant unless they too download them

[cedar vault]

that does somewhat suck but thx for the help! ^-^

[coral marsh]

I do believe though, that mods that add in extra ore's like thorium and the infinite zoop mod are usable by all parties in multiplayer

[cedar vault]

lets gooo

[coral marsh]

In short, some do, most may not, some will not at all

[zenith sage]

Might want to ask over at the modding server for details

[coral marsh]

I can actually reccomend the thorium mod for nuclear power as the waste can just be recycled back into thorium fuel rods

[cedar vault]

i am working on a nuclear plant rn

[zenith shard]

is there a way to automate alien killing?

[coral marsh]

In the base game, the final radioactive fuel rod is ficsonium which produces no waste but requires plutonium waste.

[zenith sage]

Nope

[unkempt blade]

...can't you already do that with the existing nuclear fuels?

[coral marsh]

Ficsonium also has a really short burn time as it has a much lower energy value

[coral marsh]

Uranium waste into plutonium fuel rods, plutonium fuel rods into fixsonium cells then fuel rods for no waste

So, like, yea

[indigo kiln]

The jump pads don't make any sense I never land where it says I will is that a bug or just me being dumb

[coral marsh]

But the thorium mod is also fun as its a complete and closed full recycling recipe whereas bade game is open to ficsonium the closes entirely (not shitting on it btw)

[unkempt blade]

or use plutonium rods for vehicles or sink plutonium rods

[coral marsh]

Can do that too

It does eliminate the need to make a heap of singularity cells as well

[zenith sage]

Wind? 🤔

[ocean hemlock]

can anyone here help with trains im lost ive done them countless times in past but cam back after a while for 1.1 and just canrt get them going athe signals just aint working

[indigo kiln]

Is wind actually in the game?

[zenith sage]

I mean... you have no way to measure it but logically thinking it'd make sense

[indigo kiln]

Fair enough

[zenith sage]

Time to finally get the hover pack I longed for for so long...

[tranquil zinc]

trying to understand train throughput with videos and its just so confusing. I am tempted to just have a "train track" that has conveyers hidden underneath to satisfy my aesthetics lol

[grizzled lotus]

I've had trouble with this recently and apparently 1.1 introduced a bug which can be fixed by moving a signal 1 meter or foundation one way. But I'm told unless you have junctions/crosses you don't need path signals so maybe block signals are better to use

[ocean hemlock]

yeh my freind just did this and sorted it ive been sat here fo many houyrs trying to find a soluiton thank you

[craggy leaf]

what was the game's price on christmas?

[zenith sage]

There was a 30% discount

[craggy leaf]

dang

im playing on family share, playing from my friend's library
when is the next sale? im gonna save for it

[tall lantern]

you can check out SteamDB or similar to look at what they've previously done. Obviously they don't announce sales in advance

[craggy leaf]

dang

i regret not knowing this game before

[zenith sage]

Damn, cyber wagon even has a cracked window, love the absolutely perfect recreation of all aspects of that "thing"

[zenith sage]

I regret knowing this game... I don't have a life anymore

[craggy leaf]

should i run before it gets me?

[zenith sage]

No point, ADA will find you

[tiny parcel]

are there new achievments planned?

[zealous urchin]

from all the games ive played that one could categorize as "time sinks" this one is the best actualy

[indigo kiln]

And CPU sink

[zealous urchin]

cpu sink award goes to stellaris

🤷

[zenith sage]

Nah, I still can't believe how well this game is optimized

[reef basin]

doubt so

[tiny parcel]

sad

[indigo kiln]

Yeah I know I agree for what it is it's incredibly well optimized that doesn't mean it runs good on some devices though

Oh I just found a weird asshole

Thank God I have ladders

[somber smelt]

can someone tell me why this isnt getting any water? #screenshots

[reef basin]

why do people ask questions in #screenshots and not in #1038092680493801533 ? 😄

[somber smelt]

cuz answears are quicker here

pretty simple

[reef basin]

they are same quick in both channels

[tall lantern]

as long as the answer you're looking for is "use #1038092680493801533 "

[reef basin]

and here it's annoying to switch between two channels

[tranquil zinc]

ask here and link to screenshot

[somber smelt]

exacly what i did heh

[reef basin]

that's exactly what you shouldn't do

[zenith shard]

#screenshots message
advice on how to make a good ceiling?

[reef basin]

same as above, better to put questions not in #screenshots , in your case it would be better to ask in #design-and-architecture

[echo zinc]

its time to re build my starter factorys

[reef basin]

(or build new one and keep old ones)

[echo zinc]

alr made new ones 💀

old ones are ulgy

[zenith shard]

ooo didn't realize that channel exist, thanks!

[reef basin]

as long as they are working, no reason to dismantle them 🤷

[echo zinc]

must be my oCD

[ocean hemlock]

can anyone help i am playong on ma mates server i disconnected due to internet i re join and now im a new player with nothing ive lost my inventory and there now a perminent ofline player sat on ground is there any fix ?

[unkempt blade]

go to where you got logged out and smack the sitting pioneer until he drops your loot

[zenith sage]

Yeah.. I also need to rebuild my main base into less of a factory and more of a hub

[echo zinc]

im looking for a spot to put my hub rn

[reef basin]

why do so many people insist on spending time to dismantle factories, hence making their production worse 🤔

[echo zinc]

because its a video game and we find it fun

[runic mesa]

we should have a zoop delete function

[ocean hemlock]

thank you

[echo zinc]

mhh i think i discovered uranium

[zenith sage]

Huh... so if you catch a ride in the delivery pod the death crate stays in the sky... interesting

[echo zinc]

uranium hurts 😭

[unkempt blade]

I mostly don't understand the rush to do it. So many people are like mid phase 2 or whatever and worrying about how it looks

[reef basin]

like... spend time to make more, not to make less 😄

[grizzled lotus]

trucks will pick up fuel for any station they pass by, right? do I have to stop at the station for it do that when recording a path?

[echo zinc]

oop

looks like i found new factroy lcoation, hella pure nodes

[indigo kiln]

I like train too much to do that

[echo zinc]

train!

i need to redo one of my train locations

[indigo kiln]

I need to unlock trains lol

[zenith sage]

I'm starting to regret building only a 1 rail route...

[echo zinc]

i realized mixing water with iron makes more.. rabit hole go brr

[feral jay]

Everyone who builds a single rail network regrets it eventually

[echo zinc]

i wanna rebuild it, i dont feel like making the foundation lol

[fading whale]

We are already regretting you did.

[echo zinc]

ngl i forgot about blueprints.. would make building my train easier

ima go.. make blueprints

[fading whale]

By miles!

[echo zinc]

fr!

iv been sitting in a very small part of the map 💀 moving to locations is boring to me

[fading whale]

I personally don't mind the rail spanning wiht no support. So I just build the towers holding the trail for every two lengths of rail.
Others prefer making a solid structure to hold the whole rail. That takes more time.

[echo zinc]

my starting rails wont have supports, my future may

[feral jay]

I try to build rails on the ground, it's just prettier to ride the trains that way

[echo zinc]

im too lazy to make smooth turns too

i aint doing that with foundation 💀

[fading whale]

So many ways to do it 🙂

[feral jay]

Nope, there's only two ways – my way and the wrong way.

[somber smelt]

🤓 ☝️

[craggy leaf]

is it ok for my belt to span 1000m? my coal is too far away

[echo zinc]

go for it

[fading whale]

Right. My bad.
I'll stick with the wrong way though 😄

[echo zinc]

do train cause yes

[somber smelt]

as long as it works man

i did the same ngl

[feral jay]

It's ok to have a belt span the whole map, if that works for you. There's no drawbacks aside from having a very long belt

[echo zinc]

im doing that for my sulfur right now

too lazy to ship via train rn

[craggy leaf]

i just researched coal so no train yet, im already running 20fps as is, im worried making it so long would lag further lol

[somber smelt]

finally fixed this goofy water

[feral jay]

It's not like you lose capacity as belts grow longer or anything like that

[echo zinc]

shoot i could gather a bunch of water and package it

[somber smelt]

seems like a hastle ngl

[echo zinc]

but fun!

[craggy leaf]

package water?

[sinful moth]

Hi I just need some advice I got 5 coal power and 3 water extraction is that enough for coal power

[echo zinc]

yes

might have to underclock one, just do the math

[somber smelt]

i think thats overkill

[feral jay]

3 extractors is enough for 8 coal generators

[craggy leaf]

is there a water finder i can research? or is a pond good enough?

[somber smelt]

try to place a water excractor

[feral jay]

Anywhere you can fit the extractors will work, you won't run out of water

[sinful moth]

@feral jay thanks because I’m new to the game

[craggy leaf]

the pond works lol

[feral jay]

A key thing to keep in mind is that all resources are infinite in this game, including water

(except collectibles, sloops/spheres/drives etc)

[proven tiger]

Thats what i love about it

[feral jay]

And wood/biomatter I suppose, but there's so much of that, you'll never run out

[echo zinc]

h god i can use water and make even more iron

[sinful moth]

Thanks for the advice

[somber smelt]

nah thats crazy. i got 11 hard drive recipes stacked and i still cant get the one i need

[echo zinc]

mhh i need 14 refinery's to do all my iron

[proven tiger]

Damn unlucky

[fading whale]

When you look at the map, you see the different shades of blue on the water.
Anything not the brightest shade is deep enough for sure. And for the brightest shade, it's only the most shallow bits that are not deep enough. Usually close the sandy areas.

[craggy leaf]

is there a FPS display?

[somber smelt]

i should get it prolly if i reroll all of them

[whole drum]

If you're on Steam, there's one built in, regardless of game

[craggy leaf]

oh yeah i forgot about that

[echo zinc]

im doing everything but progress to phase 3 😂

[fading whale]

Several hundreds hours in, same.

[echo zinc]

i will minmax everything

i will make it look nice

the second i got trained the way i designe changed

[queen slate]

I rushed to phase 4 but now I gotta build factories for all the items I missed like crystal oscillators etc

[echo zinc]

im dreading that

the nodes are far from my enstablished infrastructure

[whole drum]

Trains/Drones help a lot

[queen slate]

How do ye power your drones?

[whole drum]

T-fuel or R-fuel

[queen slate]

Do you need a lot of it usually?

[echo zinc]

im looking fowared to drones, trains for long distances, droens for random areas that dont need a train

[whole drum]

Depends on how many you use

[tranquil zinc]

I rushed tier 7 for hoverpack. This makes factory building easier

[queen slate]

Hoverpack feels so nice

[whole drum]

Trains for heavy throughput, Drones for advanced parts or when belts/trains would be too much work.

[echo zinc]

everything is too mcuh work when youre lazy 😂 😂

[whole drum]

The crystal caverns near oil islands, for example

I built a train in there and it was a pain in the ass

But I didn't have drones yet

Drones would be much better for it

[tranquil zinc]

one consequence of rushing is that I have no train network. I relied on dimensional depot and manually getting those mats and putting them into summersloop machines

[whole drum]

Yep, that's the fast way, but not the "strong" way

[zenith sage]

I got my hoverpack only after 160h of playing..

[tranquil zinc]

I've unlocked drones and feels like it would be better to start the transportation network with drones and skip trains

[whole drum]

Use both

Trains give way better throughput

Use it for ores, ingots, and other high volume items

[reef basin]

use everything, depending on situation 🙂

[tranquil zinc]

the math is my problem. Still confused about train throughput after how many videos watched now. I think I can rely on just creating more drone ports

[whole drum]

If you make a dual-rail looped train setup, throughput isn't a problem because you can just add more trains/cars

[reef basin]

you don't need to do any of the math though

[tranquil zinc]

cause I like my machines being 100% efficient

[reef basin]

rule of thumb is "one belt/pipe per train car, add trains until it's enough"

[tranquil zinc]

wdym? Just fill the car and hope for the best?

[echo zinc]

i realized idc about efficency when it c oems to core crafting components, if ima stock pile ima stock pile

[whole drum]

If one train isn't doing enough, add another

[echo zinc]

thats what i do for coal, i just fill it up 😂

[tall lantern]

you can always time the route, add some extra buffer time in case of signals, compare with how much you need to transport, then make enough carriages to manage it

whether that's on one train or multiple

[reef basin]

most of the routes are possible to do with one train (with one belt per platfrom)

rarely you may need a second train to reach the desired throughput

but you don't need to know the actual max possible throughput of the train, because it's not relevant, as long as it can transport the items you give it, it's fine

no reason to calculate or time anything really

belt -> buffer -> platform -> train -> platform -> buffer -> belt

(equal with pipes)

[whole drum]

Yeah, when the train leaves, see how much is left in the station and decide if another train is needed.

[tall lantern]

the sort of distance I do trains for is often long enough that it actually can't manage a full belt per loop

[reef basin]

then you add another train

[tall lantern]

indeed

but to do that, I need to know that's the case, and I'd rather know that as I'm building it rather than when it's supposed to be up and running 😛

[fading whale]

More shorter trains can avoid longer stations taking more space. Also worth considering for some.

[reef basin]

but you don't need to time anything, you just see after a few runs if items are stockpiling or not, if they are, you can add another train

[whole drum]

It's a very simple approach that removes the stress of trying to math it out

[tranquil zinc]

I'll see how it goes, first train route is to transport bauxite and coal to a aluminum prod facility

[reef basin]

most likely you will expand your train network anyway, and that often leads to the timed route having different time (due to delays from meeting other trains), which invalidates your previous math anyway

[tall lantern]

yeah, that's the "add buffer time in case of signals" part

[winged latch]

Which materials where? 😛

[zenith shard]

for the wall

[reef basin]

but why do the math if the result isn't accurate anyway? you can just skip the math and go straight to building it 🤷

[zenith shard]

ahh didn't I link your screenshot? xd

[winged latch]

Concrete foundations

[tall lantern]

because it's accurate enough, it's not like I need perfect accuracy, can't have eg 1.52 carriages

[tranquil zinc]

I'll probably just go with "independent train routes" where 2 railway from A-B is only for one train. If there is another location C that needs to go to A, it must go in a different track and platform

[reef basin]

well the point is that you don't do any math and just do one belt per car 🙂

that also simplifies handling the belts, as you don't need to do things like "hey I have 5 belts but train has 7 carriages what do I do"

you just hook each belt to one platform, and you get the same amount of resources on the other side

[tall lantern]

that's not an issue I have, at least

[reef basin]

well most people that use the math formulas do have these issues

imo it's making their life harder for no reason

[tall lantern]

it's always "this platform [group] is for the 528.3 iron ingots for that part, this is for the 233.1 for this other part, etc"

[whole drum]

If precision is super important, just use belts. You can use the blueprint designer to make auto-connectable belt highways and then decorate on/around them if you don't like how the belts look.

But for most purposes, greeny's approach to trains is plenty

[somber smelt]

HOW

brooo this game just doesnt want to give me this alt man

[reef basin]

which one?

[somber smelt]

for turbofuel

blender one

[reef basin]

well TF is crap anyway

[whole drum]

You can either keep grinding hard drives or save scum it.

[somber smelt]

i just rescanned 14 hard drives

[fading whale]

Are you sure you have unlocked everything you need to use that alt? Buildings and resources?

[reef basin]

do you have the base TF recipe?

[tall lantern]

and maybe check if you're unlocked the other turbofuel related stuff (in the MAM), just in case

[somber smelt]

yea why shouldnt i

[whole drum]

You have the blender unlocked?

[somber smelt]

i got everythin for it dont worry

[reef basin]

idk, you may have skipped that alt and thought you're gonna get just the blend TF

[somber smelt]

alr im save scummin

at this point im tired of exploring

[reef basin]

just unlock it with save editor at this point lol

or with AGS

[fading whale]

It's a fair question when we don't know what is in your game 🙂
Many others have had this same minor oversight.

[somber smelt]

hm interestin

it would be funny if i didnt get it this second try

[near stratus]

Is it worth goping for either of the turbofuel alts?

[green fiber]

blend vs heavy?

[somber smelt]

OKAY WHAT

hooow is this shi even possible

[near stratus]

Yea, or do i just stick to the default one

[fading whale]

One way to be absolutely sure is to gather enough drives. Ones you try and research and it tells you you cannot research any more right now, it means you have all available alts at that time.

[green fiber]

heavy's only benefit is that its simpler and that it has neat ratios with rocket fuel (NOT nitro rocket)

[whole drum]

It's either RNG being RNG or you're missing a step

[green fiber]

other than that, turbo blend is kinda the most sulfur efficient

but takes more oil

[near stratus]

Which alternative gives the most turbofuel? Default, heavy or blend?

[green fiber]

gives the most turbo... per what?

[whole drum]

I like heavy turbo because I can get it before even the MAM recipe in some cases. Pretty helpful upfront with early oil production, even if I may not use it much later on.

[near stratus]

Oh do i have to choose what resourse i need more of? I mean like what recipie just produces the most pure turbofuel per craft

[green fiber]

normal turbo makes more turbofuel per crude oil
blend makes more turbofuel per sulfur
heavy does neither well.

In the end, your limit will be either oil or sulfur

pick your poison

though turbo blend makes more turbo per machine if thats what you are after. its "faster"

[feral jay]

And diluted fuel will greatly alleviate that problem

[whole drum]

With recipes that require multiple inputs, you choose according to which input you want to maximize for, unless you have other priorities (such as laziness/simplicity).

[near stratus]

Well i have over 1200 oil avalible, so i suppose blend would be best?

[green fiber]

blend is less oil efficient than default.
Do you have a sulfur limit?

[somber smelt]

yea but over 50 rerols

i even checked the wiki at this point

[near stratus]

Well the thing is i have even less sulfur

[whole drum]

!wikisearch turbofuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=turbofuel

[green fiber]

then you should consult a calculator cause im not doing the math for that

[somber smelt]

the only unlock im missin is particle excelarator one

so i have everythin

[near stratus]

Yea you´re right, thanks for the advise

[earnest oak]

how does 1 use path and block signals

[somber smelt]

alr if i dont get it this 4rth try idk

FINALLY

over 60 tries in total + like 20 other hard drives

[earnest oak]

signal loops into itself it says

[whole drum]

This is why you don't pray to RNGesus. He's a fickle f***. You make a sacrifice to LOOTcifer instead, for he is generous.

[somber smelt]

i guess

[echo zinc]

mhh 900 ish iron per min lets go

[rugged jasper]

hi all

[ornate saffron]

[ornate saffron]

this is a heavy subject and this is a poor forum for it I suggest #1038092680493801533

[whole drum]

You can search that channel for "signals" and find tons of people who have had the same/similar issue.

[fading whale]

Rumor has it there's a few Youtube videos explaining signals with visuals too 🙂

[spare cradle]

What is with me and not giving myself much space, for the illusion of being able to box around it and make a fancy thingie of it. 🍝 #screenshots message

[fading whale]

Looks tasty.

Now start a new game and try again 😂
Seriously though. I think all of us have made something knowing full well this is not going to end well WHILE building it.

[whole drum]

It's gross. Spaghetti can be elegant and nice. This is just sloppy.

[fading whale]

Some people like it sloppy.

[queen slate]

It doesn’t matter what the spaghetti looks like if it is wrapped in a pretty box imho

[peak umbra]

what is the setting for the quick items in the bottom row? I had conveyors, power poles, etc. but now it says "5" on the left and it seems like my quick craft options went away.

[whole drum]

Alt + Scroll

[fading whale]

On PC it's ALT+scroll

[queen slate]

If you hold alt and scroll u have multiple hotbars

[fading whale]

You have 10 in total.

[queen slate]

Handy if u have 1 for pipes hypertubes rails etc

[peak umbra]

thank you so much

[ornate saffron]

super tech

[rugged jasper]

for later production, am I going to use steel beam or steel pipes most ?

[whole drum]

Yes

But when you first start on steel production, you use pipes more for buildings/weapons, but beams for Mk3/4 belts.

[soft marsh]

Going to rebuild my power plant and now trying to decide if I want to make the fuel offsite and transport it in, or if I want to transport all the materials and make it onsite

[finite mirage]

Losing sleep over satisfactory. Help

[whole drum]

☕

[finite mirage]

that sure looks like a stain.. oh wait.

[whole drum]

[grizzled lotus]

question about drone fuel network? I initially set up one port at my turbofuel factory, which would then take it to the one port that uses up fuel (supercomputer factory). I was going to set it up so that each port transfers fuel to the next set up that required it.

however, the drone is now stuck at the first port since that port is filled up and the drone won't move. And I want to set up another destination; so that fuel networks would go port A to B, then B to C, etc.

I know I can disassemble the drone and build it again so it resets, but my question what's the best way so I don't have to do this again? have it set up so fuel goes A to B, B to C, C to D etc. Or have all my drones (B, C, D etc) go to the fuel port to pick it up.

sorry for the long question

[fading whale]

First. Deep breaths 😇
Small questions here.
Bigger issues there: https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[finite mirage]

No general?

For shits and giggles?

[ornate saffron]

this is a forum for casual convo not trouble shooting

[fading whale]

That's also here.

Mostly 💩 though.

[ornate saffron]

💩 🥣

[whole drum]

Reverse your logic. Leave the core fuel hub without a drone on the port. Then at each factory, create a fuel delievery port that retrieves fuel from the fuel hub, and distributes it to the other ports connected to the delivery port.

[finite mirage]

I didnt ask yall to trouble shoot my sleep schedule 😭💔🙏

[leaden turret]

hub has toilet for shits.

ADA finding your efforts laughable might count as giggles?

[ornate saffron]

maybe you should lool

[finite mirage]

Contractually mandated fun fun fun

[fading whale]

Probably not though. Pretty sure the most suggested "solution" would be "drink more coffee".

[ornate saffron]

im doing that right now

[finite mirage]

and get stains?

[fading whale]

That would be too much coffee.

[whole drum]

You only get stains if you don't wake up to go use the bathroom.

[ornate saffron]

oxygen bleach for coffee, Hydrogen Peroxide for blood

[finite mirage]

No that would be

[dark sinew]

Does anyone have a bug where they can’t place or save blueprints?

[finite mirage]

U can find bugs in caves, u can also turn on arachnophobia mode if u dont like them

[dark sinew]

Sorry what.

[finite mirage]

No. Coffee-stain, did no one get it 💔

[ornate saffron]

it was a joke

[ornate saffron]

I got it i chose to answer straight faced

[finite mirage]

:(

[grizzled lotus]

thank you. I should've th ought of that

[finite mirage]

How to dispose items?

[ornate saffron]

I have noty experienced this. Sil,l question did you place a blueprinter make a blueporint and save it?

[grizzled lotus]

the bad way is the toilet. the good way is awesome sink

[ornate saffron]

toilet is for uranium

[finite mirage]

I meant non sinkable stuff

[finite mirage]

Is that automable?

[ornate saffron]

absolutely not. You got to manually feed it in

I fed my airpods into the toilet at work yesterday

[finite mirage]

Gross.

Wait so how do u guys dispose uranium?

Im no where near uranium tiers btw 💔

[fading whale]

Raw uranium can be sunked..

[grizzled lotus]

why would you use dispose of uranium?

[finite mirage]

Ofc i mean the waste

[ornate saffron]

turn it into rods. fuel A generator with it,. Then turn the waste into pluto rods. You can then put then ino a sink if not you use them for fuel then turn them into ficsonium rods then burn them for no waste

[finite mirage]

Soo why did josh do that?

[ornate saffron]

y not

[fading whale]

Waste from uranium fuel has to be used in the production of plutonium fuel. Or stored. Far away.

[finite mirage]

Is plutonium also radio?

[ornate saffron]

the waste from urianium is turned into plutonium rods

[tall lantern]

even more so

[fading whale]

Oh yes 😄

[ornate saffron]

absolutly

[primal obsidian]

ficsonium used all the remaining SAM nodes on my map

[finite mirage]

Dear god

[tall lantern]

plutonium waste also builds up far slower than uranium waste

[finite mirage]

Lemme guess its invented by ficsit?

[ornate saffron]

most ppl just use the plutorods in drones or sink them

[tall lantern]

or store the pu waste

[fading whale]

It gets better.
Waste from plutonium fuel also cannot be disposed of. THIS can be used in making even higher tier fancy fuel.

[primal obsidian]

yeah it put them on the map, the crater is still there

ADA told me

[finite mirage]

Frr??

[ornate saffron]

ya check out the blue crater

[tall lantern]

I don't think that's the crater she's referring to

[finite mirage]

Is there a mobile app for satisfactiry related stuff like maps and calcs

[tall lantern]

mobile's too small for that surely

there are online tools though

[ornate saffron]

the location is a debate for sure. but theis is a convo for #story-spoilers

[fading whale]

Not that I know of. But there are good websidte like SCIM.
https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[ornate saffron]

I use the app on my phone called..... Calculator

[finite mirage]

I wanted to check out the map on my phone

[ornate saffron]

i also use pen and paper as well as spreadsheets

[tall lantern]

then see if that website works on mobile

[ornate saffron]

just use SCIM as mentioned above. Not phone friendlyt but doable

[tall lantern]

obligatory "it's a good map but the planner sucks", if you want to plan production lines you want another tool

[ornate saffron]

its fine but not optimal for sure

[finite mirage]

Satisfactory tools?

[tall lantern]

that'd be my recommendation, yes

[ornate saffron]

that is the go to

[finite mirage]

Also wheres this ficsonium crater?

[tall lantern]

another planet

[ornate saffron]

thats debatabble you are never told where

[finite mirage]

Massage ab(a)?

[ornate saffron]

Didnt ADA say SAM is only located on the planet you play on

[finite mirage]

Man i have a theory

What if i AM ADA?!?!

[fading whale]

Then you have issues.
To put it mildly.

[whole drum]

The aliens entity/network that ADA interacts with is an early version of Eywa.

[finite mirage]

I just want kittens and puppies man

[fading whale]

Kittens and doggos. We have it all.

[finite mirage]

I heard the doggo brings nuclear bombs?

I lost my doggo 💔

[spare cradle]

The same thing I did for another lil factory/processor

[wide parrot]

A game of fetch gone wrong

[finite mirage]

Ur profile flashbanged me

[solid lotus]

Yall got any tips on making a factory? Im tired of looking at my production lines all unorganized.😭

[finite mirage]

Oh, i recentlt made my first factory, like 7 hours ago

[solid lotus]

Im only 50 hours into the game. Its overwhelmed me and I havent touched it in a week

[spare cradle]

My only problem with when I build, is that I give myself so little room

[fading whale]

Rocket fuel plant is steadily growing bigger
#screenshots message

[solid lotus]

Im just bad at organizing and knowing what to put where and how much i need💔

[solid lotus]

Just go up

[spare cradle]

I am :p

[finite mirage]

Satisfactory tools?

[solid lotus]

Ive heard satisfactory calculator and satisfactory tools work well. Should I start using them?

[whole drum]

1. Don't feel rushed. It's literally just go at your own pace.
2. Take your time to learn and enjoy the learning curve.
3. Try to make things work on your own, but feel free to ask questions if you don't understand something. If you have a more specific issue, use #1038092680493801533 to get focused attention on that issue.
4. Use the milestones, MAM research, and project assembly goals as a guide for what to do next.

[finite mirage]

How have u been working without them????

[solid lotus]

Unfortunately😭😭😭

[clear grail]

Ok just finished the game.. now what lol any suggestions?

[solid lotus]

More production. Make more.

[finite mirage]

Get the awesome statues

[clear grail]

got them all haha

[finite mirage]

Thats a problem id like to have, currently in tier 4

[solid lotus]

Realistically what's the best way to transport resources early game? Ive been struggling to decide if trucks are worth it or if conveyors are better. Mb for spamming questions

[finite mirage]

How far are u transporting?

[spare cradle]

Conveyor if the location doesn't have a fuel/coal node

[fading whale]

Deconstruct everything. Sink it all the way back till you only have a bioburner a one awesome sink left.

[finite mirage]

"We will, we will, rock u" guy pfp

[spare cradle]

Yes.

[finite mirage]

ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL THERE WILL BE BLOODDDD SHEDD

[solid lotus]

Also how do yall make your factory look nice. Is it the awesome store? Or is there something im missing?😔

[spare cradle]

Yes and Pinterest

[fading whale]

All the shiny parts you get by spending cupons in the Awesome Shop.

[solid lotus]

Alright. Time to dedicate the next 5 years of my life to this game.

[hexed radish]

Anyone down to start a new save 18+?

[whole drum]

#1201555265942724758

[oak nymph]

What are megaprint?

[fading whale]

Once you have a bit of production going, just make sure you have a few machines making more than you need. Direct the overflow to an Awesome Sink. It will accumulate over time 🙂
You need roughly 260 coupons to get all the shiny bits (some of them doesn't unlock till you get to a higher tier).

[severe pewter]

I've put somewhere between 600~800 hours on my world and haven't started aluminum yet. There's no rush to complete the game, and plenty of fun to be had with building

[whole drum]

You can spend a long time in Phases 2 and 3 pretty easily

[solid lotus]

I have all of my quartz materials going in there (same output as input to the sink).

[fading whale]

That is technically an export of a "big thing" made with a save editor. This can then (with a save editor) be imported to your own save.

[oak nymph]

So it just appears in my world I don't have to build it?

[finite mirage]

I wish i could customise the hub and make it look better

Not just colors

[fading whale]

Pretty much, yeah. Could be a complete factory or a map-wide rail network.

[oak nymph]

Ah I thought it would be like a hologram that I need to build over

[whole drum]

If you abuse clipping in clever ways, you can

[fading whale]

With beams, columns and other buildables (and a LOT of nudging), you can make it look "different" 🙂

[finite mirage]

I also wish the game was written in something other than ue, yes its insanely optimised and the performance is fairly decent but i just wish it ran on lower end hardware

[fading whale]

It could alos be that. But then it's a blueprint made with mods to allow for bigger-than-MK3-prints.

[oak nymph]

If I do that i wouldn't get any achievement?

[zenith sage]

My laptop was considered mid 7 years ago and it still runs it pretty well, not sure what you mean

[fading whale]

Importing it wouldn't break anything. As long as YOUR save isn't using advanced game settings.

[zenith sage]

(And now it's slowly dying and falling apart)

[whole drum]

The problem with megaprints is that you can just trivialize the entire game with other people's builds--undermining the whole point of even playing.

[finite mirage]

I usually play on my pc and it gets the job done ofc but when im away from home with my laptop it runs at 20 fps so i just cant play it when im away

Albeit its a dell latitude, not the game's fault 😭

[whole drum]

Just download more RAM like a normal person

[finite mirage]

Can u research that in the MAM?

[white dawn]

Honestly at some point there's just an unavoidable level of CPU requirement for a game like this. My PC was mid-tier 8 years ago and the game still runs great for me (and runs great on Steam Deck, etc). I'm not convinced that Not Being On UE would make it much more performant

They're not really using any of the performance-killer features of UE

[whole drum]

I think the performance would probably be worse if it was at the same level of functionality

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'm inclined to think so too

[finite mirage]

On medium settings?

[white dawn]

It's just an unavoidably "heavy" game in some respects

[white dawn]

Ish, yeah, I'd have to be home to check out what the actual settings are. :)

[finite mirage]

How do u play when ur away from home?

[whole drum]

Yeah, Cities: Skylines could get like this if you remove the limit on extra land you can buy and maximized how much you stuffed into it

[finite mirage]

C:S MENTIONED

[bleak hill]

Hey, where are save files kept? Could I migrate a p2p (steam) multiplayer world to a dedicated server without restarting?

[whole drum]

Probably, but you would need to also edit the Session ID

[bleak hill]

How would one go about this?

[finite mirage]

Wait a second, satisfactory multiplayer works p2p????

Like nms?

[bleak hill]

Well, AFAIK it's peer to peer.

[whole drum]

I haven't played with it myself. Probably some others here can provide more info on that.

[fading whale]

Yup. I can let you into my game that I am currently playing. But it only persists while my game is active.

[finite mirage]

But ur game would be forwarded to the steam/epic server and i join the steam/epic server right?

[fading whale]

Nope. I am running the game. Ofcourse there is some communication with a server for you to find my computer.

[finite mirage]

Well thats not how no man sky works is it?

The connection is directly peer to peer like a torrent

Lemme check rq

[fading whale]

Wouldn't know. This isn't No mans sky 🙂

[finite mirage]

Yes woman's land

I wish no man's sky had as extensive automation as satisfactory

[whole drum]

No the land is for men--the sky is for women

[finite mirage]

I would never play a single other game if that were the case

[fading whale]

These are the options I have currently.
#screenshots message

[tropic juniper]

There are dedicated servers available for satisfactory

[finite mirage]

Is there a site for that? I wanna play on one

[fading whale]

This is true 🙂
But there was a question about p2p.

[fading whale]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

Thinking a lot of them in there also know about what servers are available.

[tropic juniper]

No idea. I just know you can get the binary. I only ever play satisfactory solo myself

[finite mirage]

No like minecraftsevers.org

But for satisfactory

[near siren]

lol just took a train ride round my map and man i been building some super big complexes lmao

funny how long it doesnt take to switch natural wild life to metal convayor belts lmao

[rugged jasper]

#screenshots message trying to experiment with my build 🥹

[rustic rune]

Hey everyone! Joined today because I got a bit lost, and couldn't find any answers on the internet. I absolutely love the game. Recently I started using trains, and I really like them. They serve me well so far. But I'm having some issues with fluid trains - what's the best approach to set up buffers to it? Should I use a single industrial one per station platform, or one per output (so two per platform)?

[fading whale]

More dimensions are always preferrable 🙂
Keep in mind you can run a vertical belt through the splitters.
First place the belt elevator. Then attach a merger/splitter to it. The your feed (if a splitter) and one output is vertical, and you have two side outputs.

[rugged jasper]

it should work like that tho, but in a spiral, to make the build a little more challenging for me.
I am trying to connect everything right now without any clipping 🤭

[fading whale]

That's the right way to play the game 😄
Give yourself a challenge. Sometimes you make a new invention. Other times you realize why no one else is doing it.
Doesn't matter as long as you're having fun with it.

[rugged jasper]

That's the spirit 🙌
But I just try to overbuild everything from ground level this night (tier 1-2), and then I will move it up to next phase/level in my build where I boost everything to max, to have less nodes going to my base, but deliver everything I need, slow and steady I try to work it all out. 😄 so everything is max boosted from the beginning, tho idk if it will work.
but I will see, as the progress goes on 😁

[old bramble]

Question: If I overclock a coal generator to 250% how much coal will it use? Like between 30-40 or would it still use 15 per minute?

[versed cosmos]

overclocking power generators increases fuel use linearly

just off the top of my head it would be 37.5 coal/min

double check my maths tho lol

[white dawn]

I don't, hence why I'd have to be at home to check what my Satisfactory settings are. :D

(I mean, if I was remote on a laptop and I had Steam running at home, presumably I could do that remote-play thing or whatever. But eh. :D)

[versed cosmos]

water use will also increase by the same percentage

[finite mirage]

Satisfactory is too addicting to not play when away from home

[covert quarry]

is there like a list where i can check out alternate recipes? i need one for encased industrial beam

[rugged jasper]

so true ! 😄

[versed cosmos]

you're looking for encased steel pipe

combined with iron pipe you can make encased beams without coal

[fading whale]

I tried. Boss did not like it.
IT was ok with it. Mostly because I am the IT guy.

[rugged jasper]

reason why I even took the ferry back to mainland this evening to play more Satisfactory 😄 hehe!

[cunning glade]

Gotta love when the train says the next station is unreachable for no reason

[covert quarry]

so i can mass produce it? Thanks )

[old bramble]

So basically four coal generators at 200% will be fed by two MK1 extractors for 120 coal per minute

[finite mirage]

Welcome to deutsche bahn

[versed cosmos]

you mean mk1 miners?

also the purity of the nodes matters

[old bramble]

Two normal is 60+60 which equals 120

[versed cosmos]

but yes, 4 coal generators at 200% will be fed by 120 coal

[cunning glade]

Okay hmm just idk rn

[old bramble]

That will be good. Saves me resources to just overclock

[versed cosmos]

saving space and time is most of the reason to overclock

[finite mirage]

Does satisfactory have a story?

[versed cosmos]

later on you could find yourself placing 100 fuel generators

[feral jay]

Not really, no, but sort of, yes

[versed cosmos]

there is lore but not exactly a story

[finite mirage]

Cool