satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

i tap only what is needed. both are overclocked to 250% and are crying, burnt out, AND surviving on white monsters.

[runic mesa]

i use them because my constructors aren't fast enough making concrete

[mortal ginkgo]

pour some water on it, splash them nicely, aka Wet Concrete Recipe

[runic mesa]

im still in tier 3-4

i just restarted

[mortal ginkgo]

Go faster, impure limestone demands it

[ornate saffron]

wet doesnt mean cool or relaxing. I hit them with the force of a pressure washer filtered through my buttholew

[keen maple]

Yeah.... I'm learning this so we moved to a new area that is surrounded by pure nodes.

[primal obsidian]

unpopular opinion it’s not worth using impure limestone nodes till you get power shards and mk.3 miner and then just barely

[runic mesa]

request denied

[vague timber]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1461736404928430191
Inner me is fighting really hard to make everything tidy... Unfortunately it doesn't have enough gamer powers and imagination to do so xd

[mortal ginkgo]

It is unpopular for a reason. It is simply wrong way of playing this game.

I kek at you.

Kek.

[primal obsidian]

Nuh uh there’s no wrong way to play the game

[mortal ginkgo]

looks good. Could have more space and coloring.

[ornate saffron]

dont let the internet fool you this is top 20% of neatness

[mortal ginkgo]

There is. You just said it. Deniel is not a solution. It is just delaying the inevitable.

[primal obsidian]

like floating fuel gens on 1m foundations is a very common great way to use your space

[mortal ginkgo]

EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE YOU

[vague timber]

Yeah kinda understand what you are saying. Too much reddit and discord browsing doesn't help when looking at other people amazing builds.

[barren tulip]

i thought that's a phase 4 activity tbh

[primal obsidian]

dw ive changed my ways

[vague timber]

This time decided to go "Let's game it out" path, because last time when i focused really hard on making everything really nice and colourful got burnt out after phase 3.

[primal obsidian]

it only took 278 hours

[ornate saffron]

as for creativety, Turn off your phone and sit at a table with nothing but your thoughts on the game and your layouts. ideas will come

[barren tulip]

with the power of miner mk 3 + triple overclock, any node becomes useful

[vague timber]

Enjoying it right now, but still feeling that itch to somehow tidy it up

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, this is like looking at Picasso while being a beginner artist. Things you should do:

1- Accept the fact that you are a beginner. It takes A LOT OF TIME to decorate things.

2- Instead of checking others awesome builds, check some tutorials on youtube about depth , pillar , thicc walls etc.

3- Expect that you will need 3x more space needed to decorate stuff properly, which is a challenge by itself.

4- Hello

[barren tulip]

i would scratch it if i were you

[vague timber]

Welp anyway wanted to share a bit of my spagethio before continuing to work on other phase 4 parts. Just automated first part out of 4

[primal obsidian]

I should really start a new run kinda boring when you beat the game

[barren tulip]

i tried decorating and the end result was always rather unsatisfactory, so i just make factories with no decoration now

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats why I just wont finish phase 5. It will stay there. (It gives nothing new anyway)

[ornate saffron]

/you know in distopean sci fi movies like the Fifth Element or Blade runner there is traffic everywhere that looks like absolute chaos but somehow it functions? that is the majority of builds. EVEN MINE. or at least my old ones. I loaded into my first build a few months back and i was horrified

[mortal ginkgo]

At first everything is unsatisfactory. Then you make it satisfactory.

[primal obsidian]

my bestest build ever is a pyramid with a gold cap that makes heat sinks

[barren tulip]

my first world had

• a coal setup that didn't work and the more flow issues it had the more pipes i added
• completely unnecessary hypertubes
• really big ramp
• conveyor spaghetti on the floor

[vague timber]

Wonder how that looks, do you have screenshot anywhere?

[ornate saffron]

its mostly broken as update 8 changed a lot including the map. But i could load it up again

[barren tulip]

reminds me of this one massive factory to build like 10 turbo motors per minute in my second or third world which is completely undecorated but i think it looks nice

[vague timber]

Nah it's fine don't bother with it then Kek

[ornate saffron]

pretty sure my fuel powerplant on the west coast is under water

[primal obsidian]

mhmm it doesn’t really look that good but thats because every time I try to decorate something else I give up

uhh roght here #screenshots message

[odd ibex]

is there any way I can remove my whole factory so I can place it somewhere else?

[zenith sage]

Building pyramid factories in the desert sounds like a fun idea 👀

[finite mirage]

how (where) do i start denoodlifying my base and making everything cleaan

[odd ibex]

without deleting everything one by one

[primal obsidian]

SCIM can remove it dont know about pasting

[odd ibex]

no I just wanna remove it

[primal obsidian]

load it into scim and delete it i think that’s possible never used it myself

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, SCIM website allows you to select everything and delete, and have storage boxes of what is deleted

I used that twice

[zenith sage]

Used it too, it's great

[odd ibex]

ohh ok ty

so satisfactory calculator?

[mortal ginkgo]

ya, load your save into it and yolo

[zenith sage]

Well... besides dealing with all the mats in the boxes, but you can just remove them if they aren't important

[odd ibex]

hmm ok ty

[finite mirage]

bought concrete floor and asphalt, anything else i need to buy?

[primal obsidian]

Golden nut

[ornate saffron]

you can highlight multiple items in game while dismatling by holding ctrl. You can filter it as well by highlighting the object you want lets say a mk2belt and hiting G. this will make it so you can only target Mk2 belts

[finite mirage]

man

[primal obsidian]

important to get

[odd ibex]

ok im in the interactive map while I loaded up my save file

[ornate saffron]

i think everything is needed. but i prioritize, Metal beams, Pillars and everything in management

[barren tulip]

screens are a must

[odd ibex]

where is this delete thing

[mortal ginkgo]

to the left there is a "select square" thingy bingy

[primal obsidian]

ooh wait why didn’t I think of that go my copper powder factory in the desert

[mortal ginkgo]

restart again, with the new plan

also use all copper, obviously, 60/min pasta awaits

[odd ibex]

rectangle selection thing?

[zenith sage]

Yeah

[primal obsidian]

nah i can just calculate how many more foundations i need to go farther for it to go above the top floor of my 2 floating platforms

Pythagorean theorem

[odd ibex]

you have selected 6564 delete slected items

[primal obsidian]

or something

[odd ibex]

thats right?

[tranquil zinc]

Is it advisable to loop back the water byproduct of aluiminum scrap to the input of sloppy alumina?

[mortal ginkgo]

dont be afraid if it is wrong, you can undo the change

select it and see if it pleases you

[primal obsidian]

yes

[tranquil zinc]

or just create something else with that water to prevent fluid headaches

[odd ibex]

okayyyyyy

I deleted EVERYTHING

where would you recommend me starting my factory im about to hit phase 4

[primal obsidian]

if you place vertical junctions and have the bottom input be recycled water and the centre one be the fresh water it will take recycled first always

[tranquil zinc]

there is no priority pipe spiltter for fluids though?

reading threads and its always a problem

unless its patched and fixed now?

[odd ibex]

@mortal ginkgo

[primal obsidian]

this works for me

[odd ibex]

so where would you recommend me starting over again?

im really close to phase 4

[primal obsidian]

for waht factory

[mortal ginkgo]

near Oil I suppose

[odd ibex]

I can invite you to my world

[odd ibex]

wdym near oil

[odd ibex]

for everything cause I deleted everything now

[primal obsidian]

where the resources are for the factory

if you need say computers you would build near the stuff you need for
Computer

[odd ibex]

hmm

[primal obsidian]

or iron plates you would build near iron

[odd ibex]

cause I want ONE big factory

[primal obsidian]

bad idea but go for it

[odd ibex]

wdym bad idea

[primal obsidian]

very hard to do

[odd ibex]

ohh okay

[primal obsidian]

the scale is very large

[odd ibex]

hmm

[primal obsidian]

not to mention the transport

need to build a huge train system or have copiouse amounts of drones

[finite mirage]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1461743776807649499

[placid stirrup]

Just cosmetic preference

[finite mirage]

what's more standard?

[rich shoal]

it is but they look as they worth it

[zenith sage]

I find concrete nice for when I need to clip platforms together, haven't used asphalt yet 🤔

[placid stirrup]

There's no standard, they're both used as the player sees fit

[mortal ginkgo]

there is no standard, its whatever you choose and like the looks.

also if you look close enough, you can see the lines at the asphalt. Takes some get use to but lets you go precise.

[ornate saffron]

i like concrete as it only uses.... concrete

[golden nexus]

this factory is just steel, it uses 1 pure coal, 2xnormal iron nodes, 1xcopper, 3xlimestrone #screenshots message

[finite mirage]

those lines are wyh i made thhe post

[odd ibex]

ohh ok ty

[finite mirage]

i dont see such lines in concrete

but the asphalt looks a little neater

[rich shoal]

miku factory

[mortal ginkgo]

those lines are for aslpalt. again, if you dont like it, dont use it. there is no "general rule" as those are just simple textures that dont effect gameplay

[mortal ginkgo]

MIKE MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[golden nexus]

Except all the copper/limestone is converted in other buildings its only consumed there

[odd ibex]

oh ok

[golden nexus]

When you pull all the resources to one pace it becomes a nighmare. Its not like the stuff is spread out too much, this is just a copper smelter for example #screenshots message

[rich shoal]

let me dance in peace waltuh

[odd ibex]

ohh I see

[mortal ginkgo]

Btw Miku colors are great for a factory.

[rich shoal]

they do

[zenith sage]

Hypothetically... if I connect 1 fluid loop into 2 buffer connectors, it should split evenly, right? 🤔

[rich shoal]

o just realize im using bonnie colors for base

Hypothetically

[mortal ginkgo]

Haha, planning systems for fluids, what could go wrong?

[golden nexus]

you get turned into wet concrete?

[green fiber]

hypothetically, but the buffer levels will start becoming uneven and they might oscillate back and forth between each other

[mortal ginkgo]

Ok now thats +18

[zenith sage]

Surprisingly I haven't had flow issues yet, just pipe connection issues 😅

[vague plume]

E

[narrow wraith]

Do we know when the next Livestream/video release will be? I'm chomping at the bit for 1.2 teasers

[vague plume]

e

[mortal ginkgo]

A valid point to make but I still think you need to consider making some research.

[vague plume]

A

[rich shoal]

We are irrationals now ig

[rich shoal]

Hold on I haven't finished the game

[zenith sage]

I wish there were half ramps...

[mortal ginkgo]

you can make ramps smol by putting them underground via nudge

[ornate saffron]

We won't get new phases or anything like that. Likely decorative stuff some fluids fixes and a new truck for fluids. Likely some quality of life stuff

Some people are hoping for randomized nodes

[zenith sage]

I can't in the blueprint designer... I mean I can, but that would be a pain in bulding 😅

[mortal ginkgo]

I hope all those people get uranium nodes near their starting zones

[ornate saffron]

I thought the same thing lol.

Imagine having a end game god start zone and all the stuff you need is in the hardest to reach places

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, and impure limestone nodes closeby tho', I am not the one to hold grudges. I can forgive. Those people are just without guide. They need to tap the actual corret nodes. Yes.

[odd ibex]

Would the dune desert be a good spot for a factory that supports phase 4 till lategame?

[ornate saffron]

All the pure nodes in uranium defualt locations.

[mortal ginkgo]

You should be a game dev. You are good at this.

[ornate saffron]

I think the red forest was the easiest phase four area for me.

[odd ibex]

ok ty

[ornate saffron]

There is the logistical issue of height though. As the red forest is on the raised area in the middle. Youll have to find a solution for logistics.

I believe in you

[odd ibex]

hmm okasy ty

[zealous urchin]

the best in game location is swamp with some assitance of abyss cliffs

oops

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, also Pink Forest in the middle. Peaceful and calm. Really good ground as well.

[zealous urchin]

i didnt mean to reply

[unkempt blade]

you're all wrong, the best spot is the huge hole in the middle of the map directly over the void

[undone citrus]

Nah

[runic mesa]

peak location

[undone citrus]

Screw ocean and void building. That's cheating

[runic mesa]

make a glass floor and walls over the void

[zealous urchin]

good place for anything fancy actualy

and there is smaller one close too!

[undone citrus]

I will forever build using the land.

Looks way better

[unkempt blade]

but foundations make anything ground!

[undone citrus]

I prefer to build with realism and to work with tight spaces because I think it looks better

I like building my pillar support for proper transitions connecting my structure to a mountain or something

[unkempt blade]

even though you're clearly wrong I respect you for standing by your principles

[undone citrus]

Yeah okay.

[mortal ginkgo]

you are someone who uses carts 99% of the time.

you are the last person to dicate whats wrong or right.

where as I, know what I am talking about when it comes to 100% tapping impure limestone nodes #nobias

[unkempt blade]

Yeah and that's the hill I'll die on!

[white dawn]

-# Isn't that the cart you'll die on?

[mortal ginkgo]

he will die on the hill, in a cart

[unkempt blade]

possibly, they're pretty hard if you fall on them

[finite mirage]

is there a guide on how to make a factory? like where do i even begin, i built a concrete floor in a crater

[green fiber]

you pick a part and plan the production. Planning backwards (starting with an end product and figuring out the ingredients) is usually easier

[zealous urchin]

im not sorry i cant hear u since im zoomin in my cart 50km/h doing sick wheelies and 360 in my cart park with ramps and cylinders

blasting me and my golf cart on speakers too

[leaden turret]

-# misread cart as cat, confused by concept of cat speakers

[mortal ginkgo]

explains why you are in phase 2 still struggling LOL KEK BBQ GOT'EM BROTHERMAN SOMEONE CALL THE AMBULANCE LOLOLO

[white dawn]

The usual advice (as McGalleon mentioned) is to work "backwards." You decide how much you want to build of something and then work backwards from it. So for instance maybe you decide to make 5/min Reinforced Iron Plate (RIP). Using the default recipes, that means you need 30/min Iron Plate and 60/min Screws. Using the default recipe for Iron Plate, that means you'd need 45/min Iron Ingots for that, which likewise requires 45/min Iron Ore. You'd follow that backwards through Screws as well until you get the total amount of Ore you need

Then you build it out! Keeping notes in a text file or piece of paper or something can be quite handy

[ornate saffron]

My space elevator is at the bottom of that void

[white dawn]

My own advice is that once you've made a factory, just leave it that way forever -- don't try to expand it or anything. If you ever need more Reinforced Iron Plates for anything, just make new RIPs right inside the new factory

[zealous urchin]

i need 1k hours of experience before i progress further, i have to master the basics first 🤓

[white dawn]

There are solvers/calculators available online which can solve factory chains for you (ie: plug in "5/min RIP" and it spits out the overall plan for you), but I'd highly recommend learning how to do it yourself first before using those

[zealous urchin]

Ay mi gatito miau miau

[mortal ginkgo]

me at phase 2 for 600+ hours due to decorating, can confirm.

[finite mirage]

i didn't mean the production line, what i meant is how do fit it inside a factory and make it look organised

like a factory building

[white dawn]

Aha, well in that case: practice practice practice

In general I build the factory itself first and then "decorate" afterwards

[finite mirage]

this is my 4th save i ever played and first time "trying" to build an actual "factory"

[white dawn]

It'll be difficult at first to build stuff that's not just big ol' boxes, essentially, but you'd be surprised how good things can look with just simple windows and roof material on the outside

It also helps once you've got a lot of the more decorative AWESOME shop stuff unlocked

[finite mirage]

i see thanks for the advice

[white dawn]

Other than that, hang out in #design-and-architecture and #screenshots and if you see ideas you like, try to reproduce 'em. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

The Main menu factory you see outside also looks good, I say start with that

[white dawn]

There's a reason art classes will often start with copying stuff; it's a good way to get basic techniques down

[finite mirage]

also, what's the best passive disposable item for awesome sink? currently in tier phase 3 and disposing caterium ingots

[finite mirage]

ah yess thanks

[white dawn]

You'll find out ways that work well for you with time; in the end there's no replacement for practice/experience

[unkempt blade]

I think it helps to leave more space than you expect you'll need at least until you get more practice with spacing. If you wind up with extra space you can use it for something decorative if you don't have enough space it's a bigger headache

[white dawn]

My advice is always: sink literally everything. For every single material you have going to storage of any sort, slap a Smart Splitter in front with the Overflow going to a sink. Once your storage fills up, that whole production line goes to the sink

[zealous urchin]

if u want more organization u have to consider not only numbers, machines but also logistics, belts, sinks, train/truck station, overarching design style and probably a material and color choice too

it takes some time sure but once u come up with ur own design then just go with it and ull be fulfiled

[white dawn]

IMO it's not really worth trying to figure out what gives the most "bang for your buck" for the sink; just sink literally everything

Though the wiki does have a full list of all the point values, if you wanted to try and min/max it

!wikisearch awesome sink

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=awesome+sink

[unkempt blade]

The other thing that really helped me make nicer builds was getting comfortable with blueprinting. It's easy to repeat decorative stuff and you know how much space you'll need just from the amount of blueprints to hit a production amount

[mortal ginkgo]

Alien Power Matrix giving 210 points ia a literal war crime.

[severe pewter]

I hate the locals jn the red forest, but I suppose it isn't the worst area in the game

[sullen gull]

Especially when you see how much you get for something like a hoverpack 🙄

[mortal ginkgo]

At least it cant be automated so there is that. Alien Power Matrix LITERALLY asks for one's soul to make.

[severe pewter]

Void difficulty depends on how close one builds to the surface. Building difficulty scales exponentially as one nears the terrain - in some areas anyway.

[ornate saffron]

My last run i made my aluminum factory in the crater lakes just north of the red forest and moved the materials there from the forest

[undone citrus]

Crazy that you replied to me minutes later just as I was catching up on chat

[ornate saffron]

Had a nice cliffside aluminum build

[severe pewter]

As one who doesn't use blueprints, with the decorating, I find it's easier to set the basic layout, then adjust the buildings so they'll fit within the building design before finalizing anything, adding extra padding to allow for pipes, belts, and lighting (lighting is usually the one that gets in my way), then building the factory

[unkempt blade]

yeah I think you can either build so that you don't use the whole BP area or just plan to build an aisle between your BPs

[finite mirage]

how to get resource nodes below foundation?

[unkempt blade]

remove the foundation and build it again if you want to cover it?

[zealous iron]

any idea when 1.2 teasing will start ?

[ornate saffron]

You can put Miners on foundations lined up with the node

[ornate saffron]

Q2

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
this?

[severe pewter]

You mean like adding a miner, throwing a floor hole in front of it, and connecting the belt to the hole?

[unkempt blade]

I've certainly built some like that. Just depends what you think looks good there

[finite mirage]

is there a better option?

[ornate saffron]

I mean lay your foundation over the node and place the miner ontop

[unkempt blade]

they already started with the most important part last year #announcements message

[ornate saffron]

The miner with reach its drill through the foundation into the node.

Within reason

[severe pewter]

1.2 Golf?

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message
u mean miner on foundation?

[reef dock]

is there any voice chats? i lowkey need to do math and contruction and just the noise of machinery is soothing but not enough for my adhd brain to function enough

[severe pewter]

LoFi?

[ornate saffron]

The easiest way to achieve proper alignment is to place your foundation on the ground while holding crtl. This will line it up with the world grid.

[reef dock]

nah i kinda wanna listen to people yap about random shit like satisfactory related

[unkempt blade]

not on this server

[finite mirage]

foundation is built on world grid

[reef dock]

does that phrasing imply that you know a server that does?

[finite mirage]

but miner not working from ontop of the foundation

[severe pewter]

Several

[severe pewter]

Place the miner first. Then add the foundation, it's easier that way

[unkempt blade]

nope it just means there aren't any on this server

[odd ibex]

can you maybe look in dms?

[ornate saffron]

I have difficulty expressing this further without visual aids. Can someone else lend a hand

[tawny steppe]

What is better, alt nitro rocket fuel or alt diluted fuel and then converting that to rocket fuel

[finite mirage]

so like the first picture?

[reef dock]

😭

[ornate saffron]

Alt diluted fuel feeding nitro rocket fuel

Note this uses lots of sulfur which is fine if you are using nitro instead of nuclear. I generally do one or the other

[tawny steppe]

blessed 🙏

[severe pewter]

Uhh. Remind me of this picture?

[finite mirage]

#screenshots message

[zenith sage]

Thoughts? Not sure if I consider this something neat or an absolute abomination...
#screenshots message

[unkempt blade]

I like building recessed foundations for them with ramps and corner ramps to control how much clipping happens

[finite mirage]

i honestly give up 💔 thank you everyone, ill see what i can do that doesnt look hedious

[ornate saffron]

Youtube and Google is your friend

[severe pewter]

Ahh. So, the game doesn't do well with snapping through layers. Makes building through the upper layers of underground a quasi-hell. Delete the center block so you have los with with the ground, add the miner, then you can put the foundation back.

[finite mirage]

thanks

[zenith sage]

I really have no clue if I like it... (version 2)
#screenshots message

[severe pewter]

Are you going for a theme?

[zenith sage]

Uhh, not really, just a not fully boring fluid tower (I do use a lot of concrete so it's kinda matching)

[queen slate]

Do you need to loop the pipe for rocket fuel?

[zenith sage]

I have a feeling this is gonna end in a tragedy
#screenshots message

[dusky hedge]

my plastic and rubber factory took longer to tweak than i expected
was so focused on maxed pipes i didnt think about maxed belts

😐

[zenith sage]

That's exactly what I'm building rn

[soft lark]

is there a way to make a train unload and load at the same time
as an example when it gets to station Ч i need it to unload material П whilst loading material Ф

[white dawn]

An individual platform will only either load or unload

If you need both at the same docking, it'll have to be on separate platforms/freightcars

[soft lark]

i forgot it was just the platform and not the entire station. tysm btw

[tranquil zinc]

is it possible to put a splitter immediately on an output so that it does not get bottleneck by the conveyer?

[zenith sage]

Not without mods

[white dawn]

Not even sure if mods can do it; I think it usually crashes the game when folks try

[tranquil zinc]

I see, I just have to split the earlier production chain then, so that the output is less

[white dawn]

Or just find some more nodes. Lotsa resources out there! :)

[soft lark]

also is there a good ratio splitter mod? i like having my manifolds load balanced without taking up space

[white dawn]

The map is your oyster, etc

[zenith sage]

You can, SnapOn worked fine for me (although I barely used it)

[soft lark]

for some materials i cannot prime (eg waste)

[white dawn]

Presumably, but they're honestly more trouble than they're worth, and is mostly just more opportunities to misconfigure things

[zenith sage]

Load balancing manifolds..?

[white dawn]

Some browsing on the mods database will probably find you what you want, though

[ornate saffron]

in the #welcome page there is a link to the MOD discord. its a great resource

[soft lark]

tysm

[tranquil zinc]

its going to look messy though #screenshots message

[dusky hedge]

you can have a loop back overflow at the end, the simplest will load from one side, better balance for each machine to have input from loop back

[keen vault]

lwk does purple alien crystal thing even exist atp

where can i even find it

[white dawn]

They're the least common slug type, for sure, but they're found all over the place. Just keep exploring and you'll find 'em

If you want a full-map spoiler you can use SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map) to see where they all are

[rain hollow]

I feel stupid for not trying power towers sooner

[drowsy kelp]

a mercer sphere?

[drowsy kelp]

use the platform ones with a zipline

[white dawn]

Heh, there's a lot to the game, takes awhile to get used to things

[drowsy kelp]

be warned tho, you are not safe from stinger leaps while on a power tower

[rain hollow]

Yeah they cost the exact same so no reason not too

[keen vault]

sam thing (i alr found those before)

[rain hollow]

They can jump THAT high?

[drowsy kelp]

they can jump about 50 meters in any direction, yeah

[white dawn]

Oh, heh, misunderstood you. I assume you mean SAM, the purpley resource you can mine

[rain hollow]

I've been just using tons of power poles in line

[drowsy kelp]

power towers are 20 meters high iirc

[white dawn]

Anyway, yeah, those are harder to find. SCIM can still help you if you want

[fickle locust]

SAM ore can mostly be found in caves or on top of tall things. There's a pretty accessible node in the crater lake biome

[drowsy kelp]

so not even two stacked on top of each other would save you

[keen vault]

they seem to like, not rlly exist

[drowsy kelp]

they do exist

[white dawn]

Though if you want a more subtle hint: where did you start out? Can point you in the right direction at least

[keen vault]

i havent seen 1 like ever

[white dawn]

They are hard to find, yeah -- they're usually either way up high or hidden down in caves

[rain hollow]

I just realized I completely forgot to start going further into sulfur research since now I have oil products

[keen vault]

aight bet thx

[rain hollow]

I NEED explosive rebar, I CRAVE it

[sand lotus]

this game is awesome

[drowsy kelp]

what phase of the game are you in

[zenith sage]

I honestly feel like golden slugs are harder to find than purple ones for me..

[keen vault]

im kinda early im only like tier 4 in the terminal

[drowsy kelp]

so phase 2

[rain hollow]

There's one I got in a cave once and got jump scares by one of the big stingers after I grabbed it

[keen vault]

yes

[white dawn]

As I say, if you want a nudge in the right direction, let us know where-ish you are on the map

That or SCIM will give you a whole-map spoiler, though I'd understand not wanting to do that. :)

[rain hollow]

I need to set up packaging for my oil extractor so I can bring oil to my factory and produce stuff with it here instead to make it easier

[white dawn]

It's generally far easier to just process liquids right where they're extracted, btw

By all means set up a packaging loop if you really want to, but outposting will save you a ton of work in the long-term

[rain hollow]

How many packagers do I need to package the full amount of one oil extractor at 100% clock speed

[drowsy kelp]

on what purity node

[rain hollow]

That would take building power towers so I don't need to worry about the power consumption as much and it's just bleh

[drowsy kelp]

for normal node, 4 packagers 2 unpackagers

[white dawn]

Depends on the round-trip time of your logistics, in the end. You need about 3x the total "active" amount of packages in the system, for a closed loop. 1x for processing at the packaging site, 1x for processing at the unpackaging site, and 1x in transit at any given time

[rain hollow]

I'll also need trucks

[rain hollow]

Thanks

[white dawn]

How so? You're already powering the extractors, yeah?

[drowsy kelp]

for pure double that for impure halve that

[white dawn]

I promise you that processing liquids (like oil) onsite, where they're extracted, is a lot less work than any other option

Running some power is an order of magnitude less work, and you have to do it anyway if you want to extract

[rain hollow]

Yes but with three biomass burners on sight that need to be manually fed because I don't have two truck stops to send fuel and pick up oil products

[white dawn]

Though, of course, it's your save -- do whatever you like. :)

[white dawn]

Heh, just run some power lines. It'll take you like ten minutes and you're done

[rain hollow]

Okay, I'll try it with my oil and see how it goes

[white dawn]

I highly advise getting used to outposting., You're creating a lot of extra trouble for yourself if you insist on bringing everything back to one centralized location

[drowsy kelp]

power tower lines can be like 300m each between towers, once you have that you'll also have an easy way to move between places

[rain hollow]

At least power towers should make it easier

[white dawn]

Which, again, if that's what you want to do, go for it! But I think a lot of folks don't realize how much extra work they're creating for themselves when they do it

[barren tulip]

what is outposting?

[white dawn]

Yeah, power towers + zipline == A-tier pioneer transit, honestly for the majority of the game

[white dawn]

Smaller independent factories spread out over the map

[rain hollow]

Plus I should stop adding to my main factory. I need to move the whole thing

Cause I have no room to expand the floors. Only expand upwards

[drowsy kelp]

right-click can toggle the zipline so you don't have to hold it and holding sprint makes you zipline faster btw

[white dawn]

Heh, more advice time: don't move anything. Just leave your "main" factory where it is, making the stuff it's already making, and build new stuff elsewhere

[drowsy kelp]

at least you can expand upwards quite a ways

[rain hollow]

I like having a centralized place for everything

[white dawn]

Once again, of course, feel free to "move" factories if you really want to, but IME that's a recipe for burnout. Your factory's already doing its stuff, let it continue to do so and build new factories instad. :)

[barren tulip]

the sky is pretty damn big

[drowsy kelp]

that's gonna get impractical and laggy fast

[rain hollow]

Then again I could make a warehouse and a bunch of different factories on site of the resource node then just transport

[white dawn]

I'd advise trying to break out of that mindset. :) As I say, you probably don't realize all the extra problems you're creating for yourself while doing it. But as always: your save, your rules!

[drowsy kelp]

at least do it for your computer's sake, it's trying its best

[white dawn]

Just realize that there is never a need to rebuild/expand/centralize unless that's what you want to do. I think a lot of players fall into that habit without realizing that there's other ways to do it which end up solving a lot of problems

[rain hollow]

I use steam deck, my computer can't run satisfactory

[barren tulip]

as someone who has one centralized factory, it's not that bad
-# though i run at like 25fps without any factories so i can't really see the frame drops lol

[drowsy kelp]

steam deck and battery life's sake

[rain hollow]

Battery life isn't great but the charger is good enough to keep it alive and slowly charge it while satisfactory is running

[drowsy kelp]

while you may not notice the lag day by day as you slowly build you'll definitely notice it when you explore far away or look up

[barren tulip]

perchance

[drowsy kelp]

i play closer to 15-20fps

i can get 60 if i just look up

a fresh save is more or less 25 when doing normal game things

[rain hollow]

What happens if you move the space elevator? Because the thing in the sky is directly above it right? So how would that work?

[barren tulip]

i don't think looking up increases my frame rate much but i haven't actually tried it...

[drowsy kelp]

it's so far away it doesn't have to move

[barren tulip]

haven't tried but i assume it either gets deleted until you place it back or it just stays there

[rain hollow]

Makes sense

[drowsy kelp]

it just stays there

[near nacelle]

does anyone mind building me the railway to the different areas of the map? or what is the quickest way to build the train

[rain hollow]

Or it could just start rapidly falling down to the planet for all I know 🤣

"It's the end of the world as we know it"

[drowsy kelp]

it's in orbit above the planet

the space elevator isn't holding it up

the actual space elevator building is just the big anchor at the bottom, the tether is dropped from space

[white dawn]

As others have said, it just stays up there. I think that it does end up looking at little disconnected, but when you quit+reload it'll re-center itself over the new SE location

[rain hollow]

That does make sense

Someone should make a mod where if you delete your space elevator it starts falling

That would be funny 🤣

[drowsy kelp]

if anything it would fly off into space with nothing to hold it down

[barren tulip]

UE game crash popup

[rain hollow]

If the space elevator doesn't hold it and it stays there still then that means gravity holds it

[barren tulip]

i mean, that's basically what geostationary orbit is

[white dawn]

Gravity does "hold" a space elevator, just as it holds anything in orbit. It's just at the right height and speed that it perpetually 'falls' along the planet in such a way that it's geostationary

"Zero gravity" in terms of planetary orbits is kind of a bad term. You're still feeling plenty of gravity, it's just that you're in perpetual freefall because you're moving sideways fast enough

[rain hollow]

I don't wanna have to deal with moving all my stuff but I know i'll be better off doing that to spread it out so I'll need to one time or another

Should save me some lag I think

[white dawn]

Or just leave it as-is, and build all your new stuff elsewhere. :)

[drowsy kelp]

you can see the big thud and stress on the anchor when it first grabs the tether, everything has to balance for it to stay up without either shredding the tether and throwing project assembly away to who knows where or having you get a very close look at project assembly

[white dawn]

Your performance at your current site isn't gonna get any worse. :)

[barren tulip]

you don't need things to be spread out, centralized factories and outposts have their pros and cons

[rain hollow]

What biome is best for big open factories that can keep expanding outwards instead of just up?

[barren tulip]

rocky desert or the actual desert perhaps?

[rain hollow]

Actually I just got an idea, I'll make every step in each factory it's own floor so I have production towers pretty much. Call myself "The Tower Man"

[severe pewter]

The ripple time for vibrations on something like that irl would be so massive that I'd imagine it would have to be held together almost entirely by springs and dampeners. A rigid structure would fail almost immediately

[rain hollow]

No real bonus, in fact it'll be worse... Funny though

[barren tulip]

if it's wide enough you can call it a sandwich

[rain hollow]

Maybe

[hollow bay]

why do my signals at one merging junction not work?

[severe pewter]

Is it on the wrong side?

[hollow bay]

nope

it's 2 path signals into the junction n a black signal after the junction

[white dawn]

Debugging train (and pipe) problems nearly always need pictures. Start a #1038092680493801533 thread and make sure to include some nice overhead shots, ideally with the block/path signal tool selected so it shows the block coloration

[grim galleon]

Hey short Question what maybe could cause that my A and D buttons don't work?

[severe pewter]

Are they mapped to anything? Have you tested to make sure they actually work? Will the game register you attempting to map the buttons? If all these conditions pass, might need to restart the game.

If it still doesn't work, then it may be a compatibility bug

[keen vault]

fully automated coal power is a generational upgrade 🙏

[barren tulip]

hardware issues, keybinding issues, keyboard software issues

[barren tulip]

indeed

[severe pewter]

Compacted coal btw

[grim galleon]

I have remapped them to there funktions but didn't check if they might be hooked up to anything else let me look

[tawdry forge]

if i reset my system clock, could i still access ficsmas content

[keen vault]

im praying it can actually power all my factory

[barren tulip]

shouldn't be too bad

[keen vault]

2 coal gens should be able to do it

[severe pewter]

That is a very small factory

[barren tulip]

i was thinking more of like 8 or 12 but sure

gotta prepare for future factories

[keen vault]

i mean i am at phase 2 so im kinda poorsies

[hollow bay]

done that now

[barren tulip]

stock up some materials and make a good plant that'll last you until refineries

then fuel / turbofuel plant (or more coal)

[keen vault]

what if my water source only fits like 1 water extractor. will it still be able to tank it with like 6 coal gens?

[severe pewter]

That's fair. By the time I ended up employing coal, I think it took me 20~25 of them, and am using Power Augmenters for an extra 40% power on top of the rest

[barren tulip]

i would honestly find a different water source, assuming you don't have hypertubes

[severe pewter]

Max overclocking water extractors is usually recommended

[keen vault]

so i js unlock overclock like right now?

[grim galleon]

Okay I think i may know what it is because a mod i just updated has as Controlles add A and D so maybe it is that mod. I will deactivate it because i actually don't need it.
But anyways thank you for the help

[reef basin]

eh, would disagree

[barren tulip]

absolutely, why not

[reef basin]

extractors are cheap enough and not limited in amount, so I'd just build more

[barren tulip]

extractors are cheap but the water sources (especially the rivers or small ponds) can only hold a few at max

[severe pewter]

They take up a lot of space very quickly, and unless you're building on the ocean, resource availability tends to become an issue.

[reef basin]

find a better water source

[reef basin]

^

[barren tulip]

i did say that

though a single extractor water source is still useful if you only need one water extractor's worth of water

[keen vault]

so far 1 is covering my 2 like rlly well

there is a bigger source not that far aswell

[barren tulip]

2 is really not that much tbh

[keen vault]

so i could build more there and power like 3-4 more coal gens

[fresh chasm]

how do i use my alternate recipes i unlocked?

[severe pewter]

Some alts require 2 inputs, and some 4

The recipe I believe should mention the required machine

[fresh chasm]

for example i just unlcoekd cast screws but i dont see where to craft them?

nevermind i found them lol

[white dawn]

Remember you can always open the Codex ingame and search for a resouce -- it'll show you all your currently-known ways of making it, including all the recipe/machine details (and also how many alt recipes you've yet to find for 'em). o opens the codex directly, or n opens a search bar (which is also a calculator!)

[barren tulip]

that built in calculator is surprisingly useful

[fresh chasm]

yep thats where i just found them lol. appreciate it guys 👍

[severe pewter]

The ? ? ? are such a tease

[drowsy kelp]

The day you learn pretty much every number-based input box is a calculator is amazing

[severe pewter]

I rather like the belt counters, I forget the name - but they don't work well with sushi

[barren tulip]

i have never needed to input a calculation directly into a machine just yet

satisfactory modeler takes care of that part

[drowsy kelp]

It’s useful for splitting a specific amount across multiple machines

That’s what i use it for the most anyway

[severe pewter]

I'd always just copied and pasted off the calculator, and the game rounded for me

-manually adding that last 0.0001 so that things would still line up

[idle glen]

soooo, when I destroy containers full of loot the loot just disappears, no boxes appear near me or at the deconstruction place, the loot just gets voided, any help?

[tropic juniper]

sometimes it all goes to one crate that already spawned earlier

[idle glen]

even if that create can be around 100 meters away?

[zenith sage]

Sometimes? I thought it was always as long as previous one exists 🤔

[tropic juniper]

possibly. i've never tested it too much. @idle glen yup

[idle glen]

cuz I've been destroying a lot of things with full inv but for a while I've not been getting items from it

[surreal rose]

how does block and path signals work? it keeps saying "block signal has no exit signal" and "signal loops itself"

[idle glen]

looks like ye, it can be kilometers away

damn thats a lot of stuff in one chest

[zenith sage]

It's extremely neat if you want to move your storages between distant places

[idle glen]

I mean, it cant be placed or destroyed

it just spawns if you have full inv

[reef basin]

post image with segment colors to #1038092680493801533

[surreal rose]

alr give me one second

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1461809255677169757

[tame bobcat]

chat are hypertube cannons worth figuring out

[abstract heron]

i am thinking which is better for 100 motors iron or copper wire

[snow rain]

Yes

[white dawn]

IMO basically all the game's mechanics are worth figuring out. :)

Hypertubes in particular are quite straightforward. They're neat!

[fickle locust]

Entirely dependent on your location. If you want really a ton of wire I prefer the caterium recipes. I only like iron wire for incidental wire production, a situation where I can alloy iron+copper into iron and split off a tiny bit to make the bits of wire--if I need more I'll use copper, if I need even more I'll use caterium/caterium+copper

[abstract heron]

i hve ton of iron and copper close by

[unkempt blade]

which one makes you happier to build?

[abstract heron]

Idk

[unkempt blade]

why not use both?

[abstract heron]

ill do iron wire i think motors ALL can be made out of iron?

[unkempt blade]

depends what recipes you pick but that's possible

[abstract heron]

steel rotor iron pipe and iron wire and iron wire and rotors for them

[reef basin]

they can be made all out of iron, but that's super expensive

[tame bobcat]

my only concern is i either make it too weak and it goes nowhere or i make it WAYYYY too strong and it launches me into the stratosphere

[unkempt blade]

just empty your inventory before you try it out 😄

[barren tulip]

yes, it's (in my opinion) the best long range pioneer travel method

[barren tulip]

they all need some tuning at the beginning but if you have a jetpack then you can use that bad launch to circle back and make changes to the cannon

[snow rain]

You can make a little Lupe thing where you can build up as much speed as you want and decide when it launches you with a junction

I wish I could upload an image

[unkempt blade]

I do boosters on normal HT lines that can make you got silly fast without dealing with landing safely #screenshots message

[reef basin]

there's like every other channel that can do images

[reef basin]

depends what you want to post

if you have a question about something, use #1038092680493801533
if you have a math related query, #math-and-meta
if you want to talk about design, #design-and-architecture
if you want to share a pic of your base and have others look at it (without discussion), #screenshots
if you want to share fan art, #fan-art
for memes there's #satisfactory-memes
for non-meme offtopic things there's #off-topic-media

[unkempt blade]

the pic above my link is what you're talking about 🙂

[snow rain]

Alr thanks

[modest kernel]

if I have a mk.1 miner thats producing 30per minute how much will I have to overclock it to get it to 60

[reef basin]

how much is 60 vs 30

[barren tulip]

those things are awesome but i prefer hypercannons with preset stages for consistency

[barren tulip]

2x shards

[modest kernel]

okay

[zenith sage]

Does this loop even make sense..?#screenshots message

[reef basin]

#screenshots isn't ideal for questions, use #1038092680493801533 or something

[zenith sage]

Even if it's an extremely simple question not needing a longer discussion?

[white dawn]

Jumping back and forth between channels when screenshots are involved is always a drag

[reef basin]

yes, even then - you're still using one channel instead of two

[white dawn]

You can also use #design-and-architecture or #math-and-meta if the question makes sense with either of those

This server handles threads a lot better than other servers I've been on; #1038092680493801533 is quite well patrolled, and quick simple Q+As in there are frequent and encouraged. :)

[barren tulip]

does make me wonder why screenshots aren't just enabled here

[obsidian quail]

spam issues

[white dawn]

It was, in the distant past, and it was a morass of memes and gifs and spam, yeah

[reef basin]

because when we had them enabled here, every 3rd message was a reaction gif

[barren tulip]

interesting

[white dawn]

It's hard enough to keep the channel usable with tens of thousands of people with just text, let alone throwing images and such in there too. :D

[zenith sage]

Huh, good to know, I never had good experiences with threads on any server

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'm generally quite down on thread "channels" in Discord, but they're handled very well in here. :)

And given the volume of chatter on here, questions are far less likely to get buried over there

[fluid crow]

I think threads are great for complex questions but seems like a bit much for quick game play questions

[unkempt blade]

My take is most quick game questions could also be answered by typing the exact same thing into google 😆

[tall lantern]

or the Discord search bar

[gloomy tusk]

#screenshots anyone know how to make it work?

I know it doesn’t have power that’s not what I mean

I’m wondering how to make the design that spits you out when you press e to cycle path so you can gain a lot of speed

[barren tulip]

yeah, seems like a little overkill

[tall lantern]

simple text questions in here are fine
it's the longer form stuff, or stuff that needs images, that better fits elsewhere

though sometimes a simple question might have a longer answer

[barren tulip]

getting direct help from people does feel more helpful than finding the answer on the internet so some people are inclined to ask anyway

[tall lantern]

like "is this alt recipe useful"

[gloomy tusk]

Anyone know?

[fluid crow]

sometimes a question might be really easy for another player to answer but gets bad or outdated search results

[obsidian quail]

3 minutes between inquiries means you should probably just make a thread in #1038092680493801533 ....

[tall lantern]

if a question does need expanding on, or just doesn't get answered, it can always be shifted over to #1038092680493801533

[gloomy tusk]

Ok

Thanks

[unkempt blade]

why does it look so lumpy?

[gloomy tusk]

The photo?

[unkempt blade]

the tube alignment

[gloomy tusk]

I took the photo on my phone

[fluid crow]

it's like not straight and looks like it has no power

[gloomy tusk]

.

#1461827725722648757

I moved it to a faq

[tame bobcat]

yeah i have a feeling theres gonna be a few failed attempts 😭 at least i have the dimensional depot so i can build without issue

[tame bobcat]

yea i already have a jetpack so as long as it sends me ROUGHLY in the right direction i can do mid flight adjustments

[barren tulip]

i reckon you can fire the complete other way and airstrafe 180 to your target if it has enough stages

[unkempt blade]

a lot of people leap straight to "I need like 30 boosters" and wind up dying way off the map 😆

[tame bobcat]

😭

hopefully that isnt me (will 100% be me i guarantee 🤣)

[barren tulip]

i tend to start at like 10 stages and then add one until it launches perfectly

[tall lantern]

remember you can just reload your save if you die and don't want to fetch your stuff
(or just turn on keep inventory, IIRC that's a thing)

[barren tulip]

turn on the skill issue setting that is keep inventory (i use it)

[reef dock]

WE HAVE OFFICIALLY MADE A COAL POWER PLANT

[azure garnet]

Best setting in the game lol

[reef dock]

I HAVE AUTOMATIC POWER

[drowsy kelp]

Aren’t hypertube cannons exponential? That would probably explain it

[barren tulip]

nah, for me that's arachnophobia mode since i would not be playing this game if i had to fight those horrid creatures

[drowsy kelp]

Arachnophobia mode makes them easier to look at and see but impossible to telegraph

[reef dock]

okay we dont talk about the fact that it took me 12 hours...

[barren tulip]

sweet

[reef dock]

but i got double my current consumption with 3 gens

[azure garnet]

You have a phobia?

[barren tulip]

i usually engage them with nukes anyway, those things are decently forgiving

[reef dock]

sorry i just had to share this somewhere, back to lurking

[unkempt blade]

I'm honestly not really sure. I mostly use inline ones #screenshots message on actual HT routes and I go super fast but it feels like there's some sort of upper limit that way

[drowsy kelp]

I ran the math and it’d take 10 rifle shots to kill an alpha stinger so i have no reliable, and more importantly, safe way to deal withcthem

[barren tulip]

yeah, early on i quit for like a month or two because i got ambushed mid truck ride by a random stinger

[barren tulip]

that's a lot lower than i thought

[azure garnet]

Alr hope you’ll come over it at some point

[drowsy kelp]

Is everyones first encounter with a stinger it appearing out of nowhere and giving you a heart attack

Because that was mine

[drowsy kelp]

5 damage a shot, 50 health per alpha

I think elite gas have 150 health

[fickle locust]

Yes

[drowsy kelp]

The rifle can’t shoot fast enough to kill the alpha before it notices you and leaps

[fickle locust]

Also it's always going to take a good few shots to kill the animals. Quantity>Quality, build a factory to make a ton of ammo and dump it into the creatures

[unkempt blade]

usually it's ~4 of the little ones swarming me the first time I go in a cave

[barren tulip]

that was not my first, my first was inside of a cave which i escaped, i was just not ready for the ambush
also, i was just super scared to basically anything back then

[drowsy kelp]

I just don’t go in caves

[fickle locust]

Stingers leaping is actually good for you. They jump and then freeze in the landing spot. So just run away from the land spot, turn around, shoot them a bunch

[drowsy kelp]

When i need to i take a tractor (was that the smaller ome?) and use it to ram all of them

[unkempt blade]

but there's treasure in caves!

[barren tulip]

placing a nuke nobelisk right on the stinger before they leap is a great way to detonate a nuke nobelisk way closer to you than intended

[drowsy kelp]

There’s also 8-legged demons with no eyes that stare into your soul before lunging at you

[barren tulip]

back then i just made ramps to go high so i don't have to encounter the stingers at ground level

[unkempt blade]

classic minecraft satisfactory

[drowsy kelp]

Are you crazy why would i intentionally go anywhere near them

The rifle doesn’t delete the life from their soulless bodies fast enough

[drowsy kelp]

Just hit the detonator faster

[barren tulip]

no nuke nob emoji

[drowsy kelp]

There is no phase 3 emoji either

I don’t have the power of the atom

Well

I have one from ficsmas

[barren tulip]

this thing with stun rebars was the way to go before rifles

[drowsy kelp]

Rebar’s fun when you can aim it right

But lag when playing online has a cruel sense of humor

I couldn’t even land from hovering up one time, i just kept teleporting back up into the sky in a seemingly random direction

[barren tulip]

good thing i'm the host

[drowsy kelp]

Tbf the cause of that was the host making a routing loop so the network ran like trash

[barren tulip]

oh wait, that might be why my friend loves homing rifle ammo so much ..

[drowsy kelp]

Homing ammo is less fine-tune your aim more “AAAA THERE’S A SCARY THING OVER THERE KILL IT”

[robust frost]

ty

[gloomy tusk]

Finished a hyper tube cannon set up that only uses 2 entrances to launch you infinitely far

Only 10 encased industrial beams 8 rotors 37 steel pipes 10 iron plates 10 concrete and 20 copper sheets

[barren tulip]

it's like a guided version of the "random bullshit go" energy that turbo ammo gives

[drowsy kelp]

I think homing ammo does less damage tho

[queen slate]

It does more than normal bullets

[ornate saffron]

more damage then not hitting

[drowsy kelp]

So it was turbo that does less

[queen slate]

True

[drowsy kelp]

If i’m not gonna be hitting i’m running

[queen slate]

Anyone have a least fav item? One they just despise for whatever reason

[fickle locust]

I love homing rifle ammo because no matter how many monsters are chasing me I can just turn around, spray shots, and keep running

[ornate saffron]

I dont have a hate., but i have a few I dont care items like power storage

[queen slate]

It’s not running it’s a tactical retreat ;D

[queen slate]

I don’t have every item I don’t have automated lol

Especially high speed connectors because I’ve been putting them off for a while

[barren tulip]

not really, maybe foliage after automated power

[fickle locust]

Currently it's computers because I keep needing to make them

Time for a third 40 computer factory

[queen slate]

Rly u using 80 computers?

[ornate saffron]

This feels wrong. you are playing on a computer lol

[fickle locust]

40 for Nuclear Pasta, 75 for Supercomputers, now I need 40 for Assembly Directors

[barren tulip]

i would redirect the nuclear pasta for assembly directors temporarily

[fickle locust]

Eventually I want it all

[cerulean dawn]

question, for my first time playing should i quit my game save of building everything neat and tidy

and should i instead experiment on a new save doing all the spaghetti’s to understand the game better

[clear mesa]

as long as u progress either way is fine i think

dont let perfection be the enemy of your progress, it doesnt really matter how neat everything is as long as you understand it and it's efficient

[cerulean dawn]

that’s what i’m thinking, the main thing is i haven’t even started the new factory at all. all i got on the world now is a coal power plant and that’s it

so i’m thinking to restart a new to get a better understanding of ingredients and manufacturing then go back to my current save and continuing

[clear mesa]

i suppose you could but i wouldnt think it's neccesary, you can just do that on your current world

there's so many resource nodes, you wont be using them all anyways

[ornate saffron]

Lwave your mess and build more else where. When you get to the end game itll be nice to see how far you have come

[cerulean dawn]

i already destroyed the mess, i got nothing but a new factory building that i don’t want to ruin

i need alot of stuff for the next phase

[clear mesa]

lool youll need 10x that for the next and the next

ive made the mistake of thinking starting over makes it easier

[cerulean dawn]

like modular engines, adaptive control unit and versatile framework

and all that is putting me off but i really don’t want to mess around getting it done

[clear mesa]

but all youre doing is just prolonging the next step

[cerulean dawn]

true

[clear mesa]

youre better off making it messy than starting over doing the same stuff just to be at the same endpoint really

the only time id suggest having a creative world is to learn train logic

[reef basin]

train logic is easy, basically equal to most train games

[clear mesa]

yeah i understand but it might be annoying for some to play around with until they reach hoverpack

and it usually comes with large scale transport so it's not something u want to need to hotfix like your first coal plant :p

even if all it takes is placing/moving some signals

[gloomy tusk]

What’s the difference between hoverpack and jet pack

[reef basin]

one hovers, other one jets

[pine thistle]

jetpack is for travel, hover is for building

you get to float in the air like in MC creative

[hollow bay]

how does one big bouncy anymial thing get stuck in a refinery?🤔

[drowsy kelp]

Hoverpack links to a nearby power grid to let you hover indefinitely with a range of about 60 meters from a power pole

[ornate saffron]

its warm. it wants to snuggle

[hollow bay]

or railway tracks

[hollow bay]

the refinery isn't in use yet tho

[drowsy kelp]

Jetpack runs on fuel from your inventory, it only propels you up and doesn’t give you actual 3d control like the hoverpack but it can be used anywhere, each fuel has different amounts of burn time but you will eventually need to land to let the jetpack re-fill

[ornate saffron]

SNUGGLES!!!

[gloomy tusk]

That’s why you put fuel into dimensional depot

[tame bobcat]

if i wanted to transport liquids over large distances would it just be easier to make a large pipeline then mess around with trains

[drowsy kelp]

Keep in mind the jetpack cannot refuel from the depot directly

Also you can shift-click single stacks from the depot which is nice

[hollow bay]

use a packager to pack the fluid up n then use drones

[gloomy tusk]

No but it’s not hard to grab it from your inventory

[tame bobcat]

i’ve figured that out the hard way a few times

[drowsy kelp]

Which is why i said that

[tame bobcat]

is it worth the trouble though

also i dont have drones yet 💔

[hollow bay]

depends honestly. imo it is

[drowsy kelp]

If you already have the train network why not use it

[hollow bay]

neither do I💔

[tame bobcat]

good point im only worried about throughput issues

[gloomy tusk]

I suck so much at trains I make individual networks for each thing I need

[drowsy kelp]

Nothing a longer/multiple trains can’t fix

[hollow bay]

trains aren't good at transporting liquids tho so gotta keep that in mind

[tame bobcat]

if i can figure out how to mitigate that i would easily use em

im transporting oil to a factory so could probably just do packaging and unpackaging

[ornate saffron]

great at transporting Packaged fluids

[hollow bay]

I know and so are drones

[tame bobcat]

is that better than a fluid train

[reef basin]

depends what you call better

[tame bobcat]

more transported per min ig

[reef basin]

they are good at that wdym

[ornate saffron]

fluid freight and packaged fluids freight are both great options and both have up and downs

[tame bobcat]

i mean i dont mind throwing extra freight cars on if that reduces throughput issues

its 1 electric locomotive for every 4 freight cars right?

[ornate saffron]

i prefer four freight to one locomotive but i have seen many ppl use 1 to 6

[zenith sage]

It depends on the elevation, right? 🤔

[reef basin]

it depends on how fast you want the train to go

[versed cosmos]

beyond 4 freight cars to 1 locomotive i think trains struggle to get up 2m ramps

[zenith sage]

I was wondering why fuel keeps overflowing and stopping my production... I forgot to overclock the generators...

[drowsy kelp]

How much fuel were you producing

[zenith sage]

690m3, while non overclocked gens used 360m3 (it's just a byproduct, not main power plant)

[fading whale]

Ok. It's weekend now. Back to work 😆

[ornate saffron]

some new person is goiong to see this and havbe a heart attack

[zenith sage]

Why? 🤔

[ornate saffron]

they just dont havea context for later game stuff 600 plus fuel as a bi product is a starter fuel build

[tame bobcat]

literally me LOL

[ornate saffron]

same]

[tame bobcat]

i need to get this turbofuel power plant up and running 😭

[fading whale]

Also doing fuel here.

[zenith sage]

Ah, I'm not even in the late game yet, technically haven't even started making stuff for Phase 3 elevator hah

[ornate saffron]

same im. But from a new player perspective lol

[zenith sage]

So close tho, just one more train route, few more parts and I'm done with this phase

[gloomy tusk]

Best spots for aluminium factory

I’m trying to set one up

[zealous urchin]

red forest
swamp

[gloomy tusk]

Ok

[ornate saffron]

its very subjective. The real answer is. where the resources are

[stray summit]

back then my exact model of 64 gig ram was 150
now its 450
if this computer EVER burns out...
im cooked
my world is too big for classic 16

[gloomy tusk]

Where are they

[ornate saffron]

use your resource finder

[gloomy tusk]

It doesn’t scan the entire map

And I’d rather not go around scanning everywhere to find it

[ornate saffron]

there is a bunch of Bauxite in the center of the map a nod in the swamp andother on the weast coast. and thats off the top of my head

[stray summit]

ficsit doesnt make your build tool that big
as it produced radiation and being irradiated is bad for ficsit productivity

[gloomy tusk]

Ok thanks

I will level the red forest to the ground

[fading whale]

Only if when it kills you.

[fluid crow]

still seems bigger than the radar tower

[fading whale]

That's what she said....

[covert quarry]

is it worth mass producing quartz and sam? or are they just used for research

[fading whale]

Mid game you need a lot of quartz. Late game you need a f-ton of sam.

[zenith sage]

What's considered mid game? 🤔

[fading whale]

For starters though, a single sam-node is plenty. And it makes for good awesome shop cupons 🙂

phase 3-4 is what I would call mid.

[zenith sage]

I'm guessing phase 4 is when I'll start needing quartz, cause so far I haven't even touched it beyond research (end of phase 3)

[fading whale]

Once my curren fuel project is up and running, I am close to phinishing phase 4.
I currently have a sing sam-node that I am not using a lot (surplus is just getting sunk).
But using lot's of quartz for silica.

[zenith sage]

I should check if I set overflow into sink at my Sam factory...

[pulsar jetty]

You guys think we will get a Phase 6 ? Or endless custom objectives we can send up the elevator ?

[zenith sage]

Afaik Phase 5 was said to be final

[pulsar jetty]

Yeah ik but i think a lot would wish for phase 6 or Like an endless thing to do after phase 5

I would enjoy like sending random items up the elevator after phase 5 . Like idk 1000 warp or something

[primal obsidian]

just sink them?

make your own goal

throw them into a container

[zenith sage]

You can always look into mods, not sure if there's elevator stuff, but I'm sure there are extra milestones

[cyan prism]

I'm surprised there's not a community list of post-game goals floating around
Unless there is and I missed it

[pulsar jetty]

I cant add mods im on console 😭

[primal obsidian]

heres one use all the uranium on the map for nuclear

[pulsar jetty]

That was actually very cool

[pulsar jetty]

But are there any informations for this ? (Ik atm they dont want to add phase 6 )

But maybe other plans

[tall lantern]

I feel like they've talked about endless modes in the negative before on dev streams, but don't have a citation to back that up

they could never do a truly endless mode that doesn't end up just being timegated though, given that there's an upper limit on resource extraction

(and the usable limit is gonna be lower because machines just can't handle all that)

[fading whale]

Also for most of us, hardware limits 😂

[tall lantern]

yeah that's what I meant there lol

[pulsar jetty]

And random goals to feed the elevator. I dont need Something that kills hardware it would also be ok for me to have a random goal to feed the elevator 100 mobile miners 😂

[tall lantern]

sure, so you build a factory for portable miners. Then it asks for something else, you build something for that... but there's only so many items in the game

[pulsar jetty]

Yeah

Just some random phases

Or a really cool but big patch. That u can travel with the ship after phase 5 to another planet

There u get like phase 6 or something. And can travel with super expensive portal back to old world/plant

That would be very cool

Imo

[tall lantern]

I would be amazed if we ever saw a new world, given how long this one took

[fading whale]

Yay me. I've rounded the 100K MW mark for my fuel setup. 420 gens so far.

[pulsar jetty]

Yeah

And u could use the dimensional depot

Uploader stays

Then on new world u can find stuff for a Downloader so u can Download stuff from the old planet

[tall lantern]

amazed as in, I'm 99% sure they wouldn't do it

[pulsar jetty]

I need some modders that can do that and send it to coffe stain xd

[primal obsidian]

nuclear nuclear nuclear dont use fuel gens use nuclear

[pulsar jetty]

Yeah same but idk why

[tall lantern]

never too late to learn

[pulsar jetty]

True 😂

[tall lantern]

because this one took like 5 years

[pulsar jetty]

Ah yes

True

Lets hope for chatgpt to get so good it can help them to.do it in one year 😂😂😂😂

[tall lantern]

lol no

[pulsar jetty]

Hahahaha

But what is planned with the game modes for the next patch ?

[rich shoal]

I'd love that my satisfactory addiction disappear so I can play any other game

[pulsar jetty]

Xd

[obsidian quail]

I feel like I'm letting ADA down whenever i sink hours into other games

[primal obsidian]

im sad my satisfactory addiction dissapeared now i have nothign yo play

[zenith sage]

Nah, highly doubt it, at most I think we might see a new separate map, not something connected to the existing one

[rich shoal]

There's no free emoji that describes how I feel bout that

[rich shoal]

If I were you I would play arc raiders

[primal obsidian]

58$ a bit much

[rich shoal]

If I were you and had the money

[primal obsidian]

i dont have the money

[rich shoal]

It looks like worth it

If I can play a game without thinking "I still have time to get refund " in one session like to play the 2 hours in once I think it's a good game

Happened w satisfactory I think it'll happen w arc raiders If I buy it before it dies

[whole drum]

Omg, I wish I was recording that. I just threw a cluster nob into an alpha hog's mouth 🤣

[thorn cave]

anyone know where i should expand my factory? im in the place with the really wavy terrain and lots of resources(that i havent really made to much use of)

it has the orange sand

[zenith sage]

Ugh.. why are the antennas (or whatever the thingy with the light is) on sinks so long...

[thorn cave]

i just built my factory at spawn

[fluid crow]

it has to send anonymous data a long ways

[drowsy kelp]

You know how sometimes the thing in your hand, every time for me it’s been the rifle, just… floats in-place? Apparently that can happen to the things on spitters so I’m currently looking at a bald aquatic spitter

[rich shoal]

Sea

Or make it taller and taller

[rose lintel]

So has anyone ever done a setup where they build one mega factory and have the raw resources or ingots shipped in from around the map?

[rich shoal]

That could be sum

[drowsy kelp]

When i killed it they instantly re-attached so for a frame it was very stretched

[rich shoal]

Babel tower type shi

[unkempt blade]

not a single player has ever tried to do that

[whole drum]

Definitely a novel concept

[whole drum]

To discourage you from making hobbit housing

[whole drum]

That's Dune Desert. It's on the eastern edge of the map, so you can expand westward, but there's a fair bit of north and south you have to work with as well.

[zenith sage]

It won't stop me from hiding the worst of the worst in basements

[whole drum]

Basements are pleb logic. Make use of the underground caves. That way they can be guarded by vicious arthropods.

[rose lintel]

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not….

[dense violet]

they are

[sterile blade]

Watch me, I'll do it
||This is a threat||

Oh, wait, my plan is for Ores, not Ingots 🤦‍♂️

[fresh chasm]

lets say im crafting Stators and on the left it says it cost 3 steel pipe and 8 wire, is the # per minute under the cost how much i need to be making or how much im currently making?

[whole drum]

The recipes show how many parts/m they produce

How much you are actually making depends on correctly adhering to the recipe, or however you choose to modify it.

For the most part, the parts/m is the only thing you should concern yourself with.

[fresh chasm]

ok i gotcha

[whole drum]

The only "normal" use case I can think of for looking at the actual recipe quantities instead of p/m is if you are making elevator parts without automating them.

[white dawn]

The quantities are often useful for comparing resource efficiency stuff, since they tend to be smaller and in some cases less "weird"

[whole drum]

Uh, that's true. Comparing recipes would be an appropriate time too.

[white dawn]

Though yeah, in general you can ignore 'em

[sterile blade]

Yep yep. No darned decimals with quantities

[white dawn]

It's also honestly somewhat useful to know exactly how things are actually functioning at times, especially with regard to fluids and such

Like the per-minute numbers are sort of a lie. There's no continuous consumption going on anywhere; it's all done in discrete chunks

The recipes themselves are only defined by the quantities plus the cycle time

(And the clock speed you set only adjusts that cycle time)

[whole drum]

You mean quantiy * cycle time

[white dawn]

So every N seconds the machine is consuming X of one resource and Y of another, etc.

Even if it's liquids -- that's often the source of a lot of weird fluid behavior which catches people up. Even with liquids you don't have a continuous per-minute consumption of anything; rather the machine just suddenly eats a chunk of liquid all at once, right at those cycle times

[white dawn]

I meant more that the two data points which define a recipe are the quantities and the cycle time. :)

Didn't mean to imply actual mathematical operations there. :D

[whole drum]

Fair enough

Still, for learning the game, p/m is the most useful number to know for setting up most things.

[fresh chasm]

what are some good materials for farming coupons?

[fluid crow]

fancy stuff, rubber, and animal parts

[dense violet]

anything you have spare that overflows from storage

[glacial drum]

Use your animal parts in slooped machines to convert to dna after every trip out

Along with just anything you have in excess. Got an ore you can’t seem to find another use for? Convert it to its most advanced part you can with the surrounding area/nodes and sink it

[fresh chasm]

ok ty guys

[whole drum]

Outside of DNA, the more processed the part is that you sink, the more points it is worth (usually).

!wikisearch Awesome Shop

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Awesome+Shop

[whole drum]

Oops, meant to search the sink, lol

Oh, well. Links on the page.

Project parts tend to be relatively high value in their tiers as well, for the most part

HMFs might be a good candidate as well. They are relatively easy to make for being an "avanced part" while having a respectable sink value for said effort.

Ultimately, just boils down to how much effort you're willing to put into it.

[fluid crow]

any trash going in does add up some

[whole drum]

Absolutely

If you set up all production to overlow into sinks, you'll get a ton of points as you go along. Ofc, this comes with a higher power consumption rate, so that will require extra management.

[old grotto]

Anyone try mindustry for mobile? Looks very satisfactory/factorioike

[dense violet]

So it's just automation? cause that's pretty much the only thing those two have in common

[old grotto]

IDK... is it?

Hence why I'm asking

[dense violet]

I mean satisfactory and factorio are very different.

[old grotto]

Yes but draws the same crowds

Minus the console players since factorio will never be on console

[cunning glade]

This rocket fuel plant is gonna be tall asf

#screenshots message def a tad tall

[rich condor]

can i play the game now normally on the steam deck?

cause it has the green tick

[hollow brook]

I feel like I'm taking way too long. What tier should I be at with 70 hours on the game...?

Cuz I'm still at space elevator 2, and tier 4.

And now my grid is suffering because coal power is getting harder to expand. (Partially because of laziness and not wanting to make conveyer highways to connect coal nodes to water)

[dense violet]

I mean I'd be happy to see factorio burn. Can't stand it.

[hollow brook]

I think I'm prolly gonna make one more 1200 MW coal plant, then gonna focus on hypertubes and getting around the map quickly. Then I'm prolly gonna start focusing more on tackling space elevator 2 so I can finally progress.

[dense violet]

it's a sand box where you can consider the milestones to be a tutorial for you to know what your tools are to do your own projects after - go at your own pace

[cunning glade]

Once u unlock oil u don't need coal power

If u take a look at screenshots im making a big power setup rn

[zenith sage]

Time to build 68 manufacturers... with 15k 7.5k encased beams and 23k 11.5k concrete

[cunning glade]

For what?

[zenith sage]

Tons of lifts and concrete pillars...

Wait no, divide that by 2

[fluid crow]

a factory cart just tried to drive me off a cliff

[zenith sage]

Probably wanted revenge for something

[fluid crow]

damn now even the factory cart is out to get me

welp my ammo is now automated so, all's well that ends well

[wraith sage]

I rushed stage 1 but I’m wondering if I should de-spaghettify everything and organize things or just rush getting coal power

[fluid crow]

coal power

[latent prawn]

rush coal, then clean up. it'll be easier if you don't have to gather fuel

it'll also allow you to move your biofuel plant out of the way

[zealous urchin]

base or sati plus?

[zenith sage]

I can't imagine playing with worrying about biofuel..

[brazen star]

it's the last update? Patch Notes: v1.1.2.2 - Build 463028
in my game it's say 1.1.2.1... and not this number eheheheheh

[latent prawn]

1.1.2.2 just does some localization for steam deck

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-elmo-explosives-nobelisk-detonator-gif-9422003746431214354

[brazen star]

i sh*t thanks sir

[lethal harbor]

i sh*t thanks sir

🍆

[whole drum]

Wdym?

That's how you start the game, lol

And even when you get coal, LBF is pretty useful

[zenith sage]

Well yeah, but it was a major pain and I rushed as fast as I could to coal 😅

Also somehow never used liquid bio fuel 🤔

[feral jay]

Its all I ever use for the jetpack

[zenith sage]

I went straight to turbo fuel (I know it burns way faster)

[cunning glade]

Let's go game is crashing again

I bet it's the object limit again

[indigo kiln]

Finally got coal for the first time, Now only if I ever got around to fixing my iron production to be able to afford the coal generators....

[dense violet]

even if the automation is sloppy it should still be filling your containers 🙂

[cunning glade]

Okay so it's not the object limit

But whenever I delete a train station from a blueprint or well a loading platform behind the station neat

Is this like a know bug or

Okay so u have too delete the train station first

Or ur game insta crashes super cool

[indigo kiln]

It is but not fast enough lol

Currently in the process of 3x in my iron ore

I am using the holiday Advent calendar to my absolute advantage

[dense violet]

I don't remember anyhing about it that would help that much?

[whole drum]

You get 1 extra piece of coal

(You get some tickets as well, so maybe you use those to buy some parts for a headstart on gens?)

[zenith sage]

We also got like 20 power shards iirc so maybe that

[dense violet]

shards mostly just save space unless it's in a miner - and they help a bit I suppose in that case. But a few slugs for a few miners is pretty easy to find

[indigo kiln]

For me the biggest help has been the power shards and the parachute

[whole drum]

The early chute is very nice

Especially if you use the free tickets to buy ladders asap

[feral jay]

Always buy ladders asap

[zenith sage]

Ladders are absolutely broken early game

I should sleep... but I'm so close to finishing my final phase 3 builds...

[feral jay]

Just one more turn...

[barren tulip]

almost free height

[dense violet]

ladders = op is pretty funny xD

[zenith sage]

It's the simple truth

[rich ivy]

im having some trouble with building if someone is willing to help me out?

i posted it in #design-and-architecture

[eager harbor]

Wsp earthlings

[cunning glade]

It deleted my pipes that's my 13th reason

[zealous urchin]

realy

u would reference THAT

[eager harbor]

Imagine being an earthling

I can respawn the pipes with a flick of my fingers

[cunning glade]

Yes

[zealous urchin]

mental equivalent of steel pipes crashing on the floor and agaisnt each other

[grim carbon]

i don't want to sound like a total idiot when i ask this, but how do you make elevated train networks?

[feral jay]

You just need to build them on foundations

The game has no gravity, so foundations just stay up there

[grim carbon]

that would take a totally MASSIVE amount of resources

[feral jay]

The obvious solution then is to produce a massive amount of resources...

[grim carbon]

yeah, i've already discovered that foundations can be built high up without any support

ok, new question

[feral jay]

You only get one. You're fired.

[grim carbon]

what items can the pioneer have on his person?

i don't mean in the invetory

[feral jay]

Oh, you've got a head, body, back, and leg slot that can each hold one specific thing, and then a hands slot that can hold I think two to start, and that goes up as you unlock more

[dense violet]

zoop foundations the whole way first - keeps things tidy

[dense violet]

then build towers at intervals to hold it up

[grim carbon]

i like zooping stuff

[dense violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1448157102966182049/1448167940225499156/image.png?ex=696bb73e&is=696a65be&hm=4819ebf815378fc0c78ad07688d74ceb06480f15f19a83ce74eba6ac6d943202&=&format=webp&quality=lossless like so

[feral jay]

I just like the word "zoop"

[dense violet]

you can delete the zooped foundations after if you like

[grim carbon]

nice!

like someone said already, Satisfactory physics!

[dense violet]

this was built with same technique basically https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1425104545020641300/1425108241725001738/image.png?ex=696c333a&is=696ae1ba&hm=4d60fc5385e64806805639d958aed8462f80a8c5dd046e5965d887ae63c9923e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=191

[fluid crow]

my factory cart does .5 stacks /m

[grim carbon]

curvy

[dense violet]

curves are optional 🙂

[grim carbon]

but look better than just straight lines all over the place, right?

i like curves

[zenith sage]

I'm weak, I got defeated by how short we can zoop the rails... so I got a mod

[grim carbon]

i'm not going to play this game with mods

[feral jay]

There's some good vanilla-friendly UI/QoL mods out there, I use a few

[grim carbon]

i think the QoL of the game is good enough already

[dense violet]

just plop a tower every 12 foundations or so.. then it connects

[dense violet]

lots of basic ways to make curves in game, depends on what kind yo uwant

[zenith sage]

It's great.. but can be better

[grim carbon]

i've discovered how easy it is to make curves with a mouse with a middle wheel

[peak wasp]

IT'S FIIIIIXXXXED!!! :D

took way too long but I've fixed my fuilds, wanted to gush about that for a second, goodness gracious I can't believe it worked, as you were

[zenith sage]

Yeah, I did half of my railway that way, but when it came to neatly changing the elevation over long distance... I'd probably have to spend like 5 hours trying to make one curve without hops

[cunning glade]

Are we pipe maxing?

[grim carbon]

i wish i could zoop more than 10 items at a time

[cunning glade]

Infinite zoop mod

Peak mod

[grim carbon]

how can i do that?

[cunning glade]

Install satisfactory mod manager and find the mod