satisfactory

[queen slate]

Plus when u building some mega factories your dimensional depots won’t be able to keep up

[weary kestrel]

Yeah you're probably not wrong

Just stack like 3 massive crates + a dim storage for each item, call it a day

Too many plans, not enough hours in the day 🤣

[queen slate]

Fairs

[queen slate]

I do that but I can usually outbuild my dimension depot upload speed

[fluid crow]

I just put a smart splitter and a container on the roof and or dimensional depot

[severe pewter]

Last time I got on to build, I did some tweaking to my depot: I do have a set of localized storage fed from a sushi belt with all the T1~7 factory materials on it, but the change was to add storage directly before each of the dimensional depots (the system is a bit redundant, but I don't mind having extra backup respurces), to work as a massive buffer, since I only run one for each item.

-I'd also brought up using a priority merger with a storage that feeds into this, just so I can dump all the crap and let the system figure the rest out for me. I'm tired of having to re-sort every single time.

[sterile blade]

Note: Mercer spheres are plentiful enough to have multiple dimensional depots being fed the same high-use items

[severe pewter]

If you do that regularly, then just add an extra depot for whatever item type you run out of

[queen slate]

Ye I should do that

[severe pewter]

I do enough farting around and fine-tuning (and manual building of everything) that it's never a problem on my end

[zenith spire]

That’s fair, that would look pretty good, I only do “underground” conveyors inside my own factory, I’ll just build 8m floors then route all conveyors inside the floors & have lifts moving resources to one floor to another hidden in the support beams. I like that idea of going through caves n rock though, id have to do that too 😂 I love that idea

[severe pewter]

It's so much fun. For underground though, I strongly suggest glass floors for everything

[cunning glade]

How do I turn 5 outputs into 16

[severe pewter]

Equally?

Because a manifold would be easier

[queen slate]

You could merge them and then keep splitting into 2

[severe pewter]

-If you want to do the math and really want it equally, do 4, each split 4 ways, and then you'd have to take the 5th line and merge that into every line

And that would prevent a reduction in throughput anywhere. Just make sure every line feeding a merger is the same belt type. The belt can be whatever up to the merger, but at the merger they all have to be the same, or the slow belt will cause pausing on the faster side

[cunning glade]

I think so cuz it's for trains

I have 2 720 belts 2 480 belts and a 600 belt of plastic

I wanna split into 16 inputs for industrial storages

It 3000 a min so

[vague jetty]

Should I go with the alternative screw blueprint or the alternative steel plate

[severe pewter]

Doesn't sound like it would hurt to manifold it though

[sterile blade]

Whichever you like more

[cunning glade]

Can I cuz I wouldn't mind

It's double buffered

I'm also gonna have 6450 a min into 16 aswell

I just don't wanna cause issues with loading by manifolding it

I've never done load balancing. so i am confused

[severe pewter]

If you like the math and complicated path, it's your save file to do as you want with it. But as long as throughput isn't impeded at any point, you're basically looking at a case of choosing 4+4 or 6+2

[sterile blade]

What sort of issues are you foreseeing?

[cunning glade]

Just it not loading evenly

Some not having enough

[sterile blade]

Manifolds are always uneven at first. The point is that they eventually balance out as things overflow ^^

[cunning glade]

Plastic is only going thru one trains station well the rubber is going too 2

[signal escarp]

they should add a dedicated zoom button

[cunning glade]

Hit p and zoom in best option there is rn

[sterile blade]

For picture mode...?

[cunning glade]

Okay I see

Just not sure cuz it's a lot of inputs

[severe pewter]

Whether it loads evenly doesn't matter - if you are always keeping the lines from backing up, that is enough

[sterile blade]

Well, it can matter... if you're crazy enough to design your factory so that it can be severely affected by uneven inputs for some reason

[severe pewter]

But if you have the train times balanced well enough with the buffers, then the buffers will naturally fill up on their own over time without anything overflowing. If part of the train never fills, it just means it's cycling everything faster than the belt can feed it

[signal escarp]

i mean for like exploring or standing on a lookout tower or something and using like a zoom to help you see better, or add an item like binoculars or something would be cool

[severe pewter]

True. I'm getting close to that point.

[sterile blade]

Oh?
Pray tell, I'm always interested in people's evolution towards more complex solutions xD

[severe pewter]

Didn't there used to be a button for that back in 0.5?

[sterile blade]

I don't think so

[sterile blade]

Photo-mode doesn't cut it?
It's not one button, but still just 2...

[severe pewter]

I mean, my iron setup was built to be super robust, so that I could pull from any line downstream anywhere and the whole thing would split evenly off every line for me, but the sushi factory is delicate, and I have a feeling the aluminum (and eventual uranium) will be even more so

[sterile blade]

How did you make it "delicate"? Did you not employ overflow protections?

[signal escarp]

doesnt photomode pause the game?

[severe pewter]

It's delicate because I built it to be compact, so everything feeds everything else. I worked most of its kinks out, but it complains if I pause the downstream belt for more than a couple minutes.

[sterile blade]

Don't worry, you can still be killed by a hog charging you, even if you whip out photo-mode to freeze them

[signal escarp]

i thought photomode paused the game so i didnt think i could use it to watch production as it starts

[sterile blade]

It's made exactly for that (and more), with options to animate the camera too, in case you want to take a recording 😉

[signal escarp]

i only thought of it because i had a spot where i had 17 pipes i was trying to watch to see if the pipes showed flow yet but i wanst following each pipe

[sterile blade]

"Pausing the game" is the realm of mods atm

[sterile blade]

Lucky for us, factory-stuff gets rendered from much farther away than foliage and other map-stuff

[signal escarp]

yeah my pc isnt the best so when i use the hypertube to get somewhere fast sometimes when i come out the ground isnt there yet so i just fall and die lol

[severe pewter]

That can happen??

[signal escarp]

its the whole reason i play with keep everything on normally

[severe pewter]

Hard drive speed can help with a lot of that, the rest is having the ram to keep it all loaded. Shame about the AI nonsense and ram prices. There are also a couple tricks regarding multiple hard drives and/or manually adjusting VRAM for each

[cunning glade]

What

Oh like hard drive for PC

I'm thinking in game hard drives and like TF does that have too do with vram

[severe pewter]

Lol

[cunning glade]

Just wanna make sure I got this right for pipes but I have them going straight up then running along the ceiling before going into a floor hole and then being connected I only need a pump for the first part where it goes up right

Like them traveling horizontal won't use any headlift right

[severe pewter]

As long as the highest pipes fill up all the way, it's good

[cunning glade]

In that case I should have this rubber and plastic plant going soon then

[severe pewter]

Somebody fell asleep?

[wispy osprey]

Probably a cat

Definitely not a cat

[cunning glade]

Okay all I need too do is hook up the outputs too the train stations setup a sink line then I'm finally done

Hopefully this 9k of stuff does a good amount of points a min

[zenith spire]

You have to source your ram from different sources for cheaper prices. Ai nonsense about ram prices, is quite literally nonsense. Here at work we can source rams for about 40-75% cheaper than what consumers but because they buy from distributors

I’d give you a direct source n more specifics but I cannot because of the nature of my job

[heady cobalt]

Every time I get to aluminium stage I think how much better the game would be with some form of logic condition. Just want to be able to say ‘turn pump on if fluid buffer is less than half full’.

[keen linden]

Do you guys have a sort of forever world where you work in every update? Every time i play for around 100 hours in short time, then im done with the game as mental done. Then after a few weeks i want to play again after seen a youtube video of the game and then i start a new save game because the old is not 'good', too 'old' ect. What do you guys do?

[grizzled lotus]

just to confirm, I can send drones to multiple drone ports, right? and it's more about tying ports to each other (as opposed to being drone-specific)

[dense violet]

A to B for drones only

[dense violet]

just don't mix the fresh and waste water together at all

[grizzled lotus]

I haven't played this game that long, but for general factory-building games I start over if it's been a long time because I've lost touch with the game, also it can be fun to start over

[grizzled lotus]

but from the drone port menu I can send from A to B to C? Or is that not possible

[dense violet]

not possible

[heady cobalt]

I’ve completed the game so know ways to make it work but no circuit logic always seems like such a limitation.

[grizzled lotus]

I see. I assumed I could because there's a drop down menu fromt he destination port

[dense violet]

everything in the game is a static production and consumption theres zero need for logic circuits

[keen linden]

In around 100 hours i get each time tier 8, but the factorys are ugly when compared to other peoples. I dont have a creative mind so i cant come up with a great design and stick to it

[dense violet]

Factorio exists if that's your jam. Please don't bring it to my fav game

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message what about the second destination port?

[heady cobalt]

I have over 1,000 hours in factorio. Having circuit logic in satisfactory wouldn’t mean the other solutions don’t work and you don’t need it but think a lot of people would like it and give more options.

[dense violet]

honestly no idea what it's for, the ui for drones isn't great.

But only A to B for drones

[dense violet]

again, static resources static consumption static production

l2 not mix fluids if you don't like it

or use one of the many other options to manage fluid reuse

[grizzled lotus]

beautiful factories are overrated (I can't do them either)

[zenith spire]

Honestly the best way to avoid that & begin a forever world like that is to play very little in each of your sessions. I will make a hypothetical time limit & schedule that you could follow:

• organize goals, let’s start w/ phase one. You need to setup a biofuel power system & begin automating iron/copper resources. That could be 2-3 goals in its own.
• limit yourself to a 4 hour session per day. In each session work towards each planned & organized goal.
• when done w/ the session, revise & mark your progress on a goal or mark as completed & if any other goals come to mind or ideas, write them down for the next session.

I personally do this & have been playing 2 months so far w/o burnout, still just as excited for the game when I started it two months ago

[heady cobalt]

I do … just would like one other option to play with.

[dense violet]

get mods and keep that factorio crap away please and thank you

you are 100000000% free to mod your game however you like

[zenith spire]

Also, if you enjoy playing w/ other people, by all means do So. Also yes, mods would be great (sucks we console players can’t have it em 😂)

[zenith spire]

Bro I would LOVE if mods were on console

[heady cobalt]

It was you that mentioned factorio???

[dense violet]

because people keep coming in and saying X thing that's in factorio should be in SF

there exists for certainty logic mods. Go for them.

and if you love factorio I wish you well, but keep it and it's kind of mechanics away from this game

[zenith spire]

I don’t like factorio. Statisfactory does it better

[dense violet]

they are totally different games

[zenith spire]

Exactly

Which is why I don’t like it 😂

Statisfactory >>>

[heady cobalt]

Coffee stain studios dev said they were inspired by Lego and factorio. They are different games and trying to make satisfactory into factorio is wrong (because what’s the point in that) but they are linked and both automation factory building games.

But saying you don’t want X in satisfactory because X is in factorio is a strange argument to me.

Did you have the same feeling about them adding trains or adding drones?

[dense violet]

very different trains and factorio RUNS on logic because it has a comletely different core design philosophy - not even remotely comparable

[green fiber]

Circuit system would be a pretty big addition to an uncertain benefit to the devs

So thats why its inclusion is also pretty uncertain

Alumininum is one process out of a dozen in this game

And adding it just for that wouldnt make sense

[severe pewter]

This is my only world. I've been slowly crawling through the progress. Almost [mentally] ready to start the aluminum. Been a ton of fun.

Something like 650 hours on the world I think.

[cunning glade]

Real

[cunning glade]

Real

[reef basin]

you swapped the games there

[cunning glade]

I like both they both are very different games imo

Factorio is def easier

But more intense

[reef basin]

I'd disagree with "easier"

[cunning glade]

Satisfactory is harder but more relaxed

[severe pewter]

Also, hand-craft everything. Blueprints (in my opinion) take half the fun out of it. They're great for speed running and megabases, but that's it.

[green fiber]

Factorio is definitely shorter to beat

[reef basin]

though I may be affected by playing the DLC

[green fiber]

managed to get to the rocket in 23 hours

[reef basin]

SA or default?

[green fiber]

DLC might put it on the same pace as base SF

[cunning glade]

In my opinion it's easier u don't need too count or think u just build and then ur good pretty much u don't have too do math or be exact with ur numbers

[green fiber]

default

[cunning glade]

I also haven't played the dlc yet

[reef basin]

you don't need to count in SF either

[cunning glade]

Uh yeah u do

[reef basin]

uh, no you don't

[cunning glade]

Well need too ig no but if u don't ur playing wrong

[green fiber]

You can just spam machines amd let them work

[reef basin]

you can't play a sandbox game "wrong"

[green fiber]

Efficiency is neat to have in both games

[cunning glade]

Yes u can

If u have yellow lights on ur machines ur playing wrong

[reef basin]

sandbox games are quite literally "do whatever you want"

[cunning glade]

I'm aware

[reef basin]

and no, yellow lights are not playing wrong

[cunning glade]

Idk

For me that's the only way I can play so alot of math and actually doing numbers

Factorio was just place a bunch of machines randomly and it works

[reef basin]

and you can do the same in Factorio, and you also don't need to do the same in either game

[severe pewter]

The numbers are my favorite part

[zenith spire]

Learn & apply different architectural styles. Design ≠ you need to be creative

[reef basin]

SF would also "just work" if you placed a bunch of machines

[cunning glade]

Yeah but not well

No where near as well

[reef basin]

literally the same

[cunning glade]

Also in factorio u just main bus it

[reef basin]

you can main bus in SF as well

[cunning glade]

And pull from the bus and u never run out of resources

[cunning glade]

Not well

Idk to me 2 very different games

[reef basin]

tons of screenshots on reddit would disagree

[cunning glade]

Both a blast tho

Well the one person I saw do it it did not look fun nore efficient

[reef basin]

yes, they are different. But they can both be approached with "idk I'll just build stuff", and they can both be approached with "I'm gonna math the shit out of it"

and both approaches will work in both games

[severe pewter]

If my computer was running, I'd show mine, it works rather well for my needs

[cunning glade]

I just found factorio way easier and it took a lot less brain power that's all

[severe pewter]

And it looks half-defent

[reef basin]

and I found SF way easier 🤷

[cunning glade]

Factorio just takes less effort untill u get the big space age modpack

That modpack is hard I'll agree there

[reef basin]

factorio doesn't have a thing that will double your output for free, or increase your grid's power 🤷

[severe pewter]

In my opinion, the two are similar, but the different focus points makes them different games. And also infinite/finite resources changes designs

[heady cobalt]

I have spreadsheets for SF and factorio. Getting a layout working where it takes a full belt of resources, every machine working all the time and out putting a steady stream of products is perfection in my eye. No matter what game it is.

[cunning glade]

Yes but u have modules which are broken

Or whatever they're called

[reef basin]

no? they have drawbacks, as opposed to sloops

production modules slow you down, speed modules increase power requirements by a lot, etc.

and they do not double everything, they give small %

and actually cost a lot of resources

[cunning glade]

Yes but u can build so many of them🤷 also power isn't really an issue in that game

[heady cobalt]

Me currently making prod4 modules in SEK2 mod feels this statement

[cunning glade]

Idk both games are cool

[reef basin]

you mean in SF? power is literally infinite

[cunning glade]

I wanna do a dab so I'm gonna do that

[cunning glade]

No in factorio

Power is easy in that

[reef basin]

in Factorio you need to care about power way more than in SF

[cunning glade]

Power isn't inf?

[reef basin]

you can't use the power you can generate

[cunning glade]

Yeah u can make a lot

[severe pewter]

Gentlefolk

[cunning glade]

Idk about that one

Anyways man I don't wanna keep talking I wanna go do drugs

[reef basin]

100%

you can generate over 10TW and maxed build only uses like 2TW at most

[severe pewter]

Tchüss

[cunning glade]

Ig depends on how much u make I produce a lot of shit so I don't have a lot of room too spare too make power

[reef basin]

space is quite literally infinite

[zenith spire]

Hell yeah. 100% peak efficiency where it’s at bro. I cannot stand when lines are not operating at perfection & are all messy

[cunning glade]

I use alot of the oil nuclear will hopefully help

Coal isn't worth the time in any way

[reef basin]

ah, there lies the problem
"power is hard in SF", but doesn't do nuclear

[cunning glade]

Who said I wasn't doing nuclear

[severe pewter]

I still don't understand the obsession with maximizing power output. It's the same as maximizing output of a single item with nowhere to use it

[ruby jay]

I wish Satisfactory modeled wire gauges and currents, would need to desing the grid what goes thru it

[cunning glade]

I'm gonna use all of the uranium on the map and make a perfect nuclear loop or however it works

Not sure yet haven't ever made it too phase 5

[idle glen]

where can I find photos taken in the game?

[severe pewter]

On one hand that would be interesting, but on the other hand, if it's built like fluid physics I might cry

[cunning glade]

Open the screenshot folder

There is a button in the game too do that

[severe pewter]

Depends. Steam has a save location, the Print Screen button is a copy-paste thing, and Satisfactory has another

[cunning glade]

In photo mode

[reef basin]

#faq

[zenith spire]

Peak efficiency bro

[cunning glade]

High number look cool feel good

Building big stuff fun

[severe pewter]

Peak efficiency = using 100.00% of power

[zenith spire]

I’m nearing 75,000mw rn

[cunning glade]

One of my builds will be using 100000mw

I think way more actually no clue a tad worried

[finite mirage]

how can i pump water from 3 extractors to 8 coal power gen using mk1 pipes

any cool math tricks?

[zenith spire]

Holy shit 😂😂

[zenith spire]

Just gotta make sure u don’t exceed the throughput of the pipes

[cunning glade]

Have 2 feeding on the outside and then in the middle have another one coming in

[finite mirage]

yeah thats what im asking

[zenith spire]

This

Would have to overlock the water extractors x2

[severe pewter]

You can merge 3 pumps into two lines by putting the 3rd pump in the center and splitting it equally into the others with a +. Top section needs to be a vertical empty column for it to work though

[cunning glade]

I always always overclock water extractors

I just don't think it makes sense too not

[zenith spire]

Interesting

[cunning glade]

Kinda like with miners

[zenith spire]

I must agree, I don’t think it makes either tbh

[zenith spire]

AYO pause

Nah just kidding, we know what u mean 😂

[cunning glade]

My friend would make that joke all the time when we started playing

[finite mirage]

https://imgur.com/a/2wg7Qxn

like this?

[cunning glade]

We need 3 miners here and he would be like ayo

[zenith spire]

My little nephew did the same thing so much I picked it up 😂😂

[cunning glade]

No tho that may work

[finite mirage]

i didnt get what u meant then

[cunning glade]

If u need 3 u want 2 of them pumping water in from the ends

And then in the middle of the pipe have one more

Pumping water in

[cunning glade]

Does that make sense ?

[zenith spire]

That would exceed the throughput of the middle pipe

Three extractors at 360, throughput for a mk.1 is 300

[finite mirage]

which end

[cunning glade]

No cuz the water gets taken out before then?

[reef basin]

peak efficiency = machines are running at 100%

[zenith spire]

Never mind, I know what you mean now

I think

[cunning glade]

Cuz u minus what 120 I think from each side so ur only left with 60 flowing thru it or whatever

[severe pewter]

Like that works

[cunning glade]

I haven't done coal in a hot sec

[finite mirage]

alright thanks

[zenith spire]

Yeah I’m definitely confused now 😂

[exotic garnet]

my 1070 gpu is baking eggs on medium graphics

[severe pewter]

Just make sure to add the vertical empty column in the center idk why, but it won't work properly without it - it needs to be tall enough that it can't fill with water btw

[cunning glade]

I'm pretty sure both ways work

[exotic garnet]

i had to make my fan speed to 100% its still burning my hands

[severe pewter]

Fan speed?

[exotic garnet]

yea

[cunning glade]

Bros GPU is old

[exotic garnet]

well a 4g gpu that came same year as 1070 doesnt get this hot on medium lol

[cunning glade]

What?

Also bro prolly needs too repaste

[exotic garnet]

yes i had that graphics card

[green fiber]

mines a GTX 1060

[cunning glade]

Y'all should so upgrade next gen

Don't get this gen if u plan too

[green fiber]

Nah im gonna run that thing into the ground

[exotic garnet]

yea maybe il ask my brother to put sermal on it maybe in the future

[severe pewter]

I had to take my laptop apart because the CPU was overheating. Swapped the mosfets from putty to a hard material. Took 3 assemblies to get all the thicknesses correct. Changed out the thermal pastes - the cpu was slightly burnt. But it runs beautiful now.

[cunning glade]

Fair I could never

I had a 6900xtxh and now a 7900xtx

Upgrading next gen I can't wait

[green fiber]

Ive had this entire build since like 2016.... which is 10 years now that i think about it

[cunning glade]

Yeah I have 12700k

Which I'm upgrading too a 9800x3d

Actually 9850x3d I think that's the newest

[green fiber]

I5-7600K

Ancient at this point

But it still handles the game relatively well

Literally the only new thing about my PC is an extra 8 GB RAM

[exotic garnet]

yea the game is running verry smooth for me also is just the problem with intro screen on this gpu i have

[green fiber]

It just does that

main menu has no fps limit

[exotic garnet]

it hapend since update 8

[cunning glade]

Yeah this game runs amazing

Other games don't so i upgrade

[severe pewter]

12900H and a 3080ti still keep up well enough

[cunning glade]

If y'all do upgrade should def go amd nivida kinda a horrible company now

[ruby jay]

But the big green makes 90% of the gaming GPUs..

[cunning glade]

I think amds next top end could beat or match the 6090 so🤷

I mean my card can nearly match a 5090 given more power so we shall see

[ruby jay]

Thats whats they been saying 15 years, bit no

[cunning glade]

I'm hyped either way the rt preformace and fsr4 will be an amazing jump

[cunning glade]

I mean 6900 give enough power beat the 3090 on raster for like half the price rt it didn't and then we had worse upscaling

Didn't even need that much more

[zenith spire]

My rtx is 6600

RX 6600 XT

[cunning glade]

7900xtx does the same thing with 4090

Then amd just said no too high end for 9000

Which sucked but we knew that since the 6000 series

[ruby jay]

7900xtx is more like comparable to 4080..

#off-topic-tech

[cunning glade]

Well stock sure

Enough power it can get within 15 fps of a 5090

[zenith spire]

6600-7900 is more so for AI

[severe pewter]

I do kinda wish I had a 4080 instead of a 30 series. Was never a fan of the 50s

[zenith spire]

I use my 6600 for ai coding. 4080s n what not are more for gaming

I still use my ps5 to play games tho, ironically. I just prefer console. My pc is for programming & work

& running logistics

When China brings out their personal quantum computers this year, I will most definitely be getting one

[ruby jay]

what do you plan to do with it?

[severe pewter]

Run Doom

[zenith spire]

It will be for my job. I cannot share anymore details than that

I’m a nuclear engineer though, to give you an indea. What I do requires of it. What I will say that I can say is this: invest in nuclear fission stocks asap (legal disclaimer: not financial advice)

I’m legally required to put that disclaimer but yall should definitely research up on the U.S scientific progress of nuclear fission & quantum computing companies in china because those are stocks to invest in(again legal disclaimer: not financial advice)

They are expected to surge just as AI stocks have

Definitely long term investment tho

[finite mirage]

is 40 mw enough to jumpstart 8 coal gens?

[fiery pewter]

Disclaimer: no

That's barely enough for 1 water extractor iirc

[fluid crow]

if you let the water will up with one extractor then have the rest come on with the generators

[severe pewter]

Feeding 40mw to a battery and letting it charge for a bit, then hooking the battery up might do the trick though. Or do those have a max output? I forget.

[ruby jay]

Satisf batteries are more like infinite discharge capacitors, no limit

[south sinew]

there's a charge limit but not a discharge one I think

or maybe there's not a charge limit either

[ruby jay]

100MW charge limit

[heady cobalt]

There is a charge limit

[idle glen]

yeee, I dont have any folder named factorygame there

[reef basin]

what path did you use?

[idle glen]

%USERPROFILE%\Documents\My Games\FactoryGame\Screenshots

I can open satisfactorys folder location via steam but theres no screenshots folder in factorygame, only content, plugins and binaries

[reef basin]

but that's not the path in FAQ. That's your game's install folder

[bleak scaffold]

whats the best start area

[reef basin]

there's no "best"

all have their advantages and disavantages, and honestly starting location doesn't matter much anyway

since by T3 you're supposed to expand

[idle glen]

I know, but theres no folder for satisfactory using the faq either

for some reason its in appdata-user-local

[hallow flicker]

This is the way.

[exotic garnet]

man my room is hot bc of my gpu i feel dizy bc of heat

[steady cedar]

If you pc is able to heat up your room by it self i think you have bigger problems lol

[safe geyser]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, (I'm new here) but i found this weird green and black rock looking thing? does anyone know what it is?

[steady cedar]

Could send a screenshot in #screenshots and link the message here

[exotic garnet]

well my gpu is a mining gpu

but dont use it for that

[safe geyser]

idk how to link messages

[steady cedar]

Its uranium

[safe geyser]

k

good to know

[steady cedar]

Watch out for radiation

[heady cobalt]

Generally if you see something new try picking it up/mine it to ‘unlock’ things. But be careful with Uranium as it’s radioactive

[reef basin]

better to ask in #1038092680493801533

#screenshots isn't for questions

[fluid crow]

mining to unlock things fail 💀

[reef basin]

make a thread in #1038092680493801533 instead, you can post images there

[tawdry ridge]

Is using duplication glitch method worth it or after patch my game may crash? I basically made 3000 summersloops and mercer spheres

[dense violet]

just use mods or a save editor , jeez

[heady cobalt]

What is a sensible goal for warp drive per minute. I’m aiming for a mega base and want a challenge but nothing near any sort of theoretical max. Just a big base that’s a bit of a challenge. I was aiming for 10/min before any Somersloop. Thoughts.

I know it’s up to own personal goals but wondered what is a ‘sensible’ target.

[reef basin]

we literally have cheat menu in the game

[reef basin]

as you said, it's kinda like asking a random number generator 😄 just pick a goal you want

[heady cobalt]

Not quite random. I could accidentally set myself a target that’s impossible with all the resources on the map or set a target that is far to easy (easy being subjective I know) so if there was some sort of community recognised number of sink points or warp drive that is recognised as a ‘mega base’ that would give me some sort of guidance.

Bus as I couldn’t find one with a google search I guess there isn’t. In factorio before the dlc 1000spm was a ‘mega base’ so was hoping for some similar analogy.

[reef basin]

well you'd ask a random number generator to give you a number between [minimal amount you want to build] and [max possible/desired amount] 🤷

[dense violet]

use a planner and find out first https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[limpid iron]

is the diluted fuel alternate worth it over diluted package fuel production chain?

[reef basin]

it's practically equal

[limpid iron]

would be nice not to have such a fragile production chain

[reef basin]

it's not fragile?

[limpid iron]

I mean just the cascading effect of canisters and such

[reef basin]

numbers are the same, the packaged variant uses very slightly more power, and is a bit more complex (though if you make it into a blueprint, the complexity is basically equal)

[limpid iron]

1 thing fails, whole thing clogs up

[reef basin]

not sure what do you mean by that?

just make a 1:1:1 loop, nothing fails

[dense violet]

either

1. have 1:1:! packager, refinery unpcakager

2. have a buffer of empty cannisters before the manifold

works flawlessly

[limpid iron]

I do have that 1:1 but it all shutdown when my fuel pipes completely filled due to turbofuel stuff not running

[reef basin]

that... doesn't break anything though

[limpid iron]

yeah I just mean it all goes idle

[dense violet]

sounds like you have a different problem going on

[reef basin]

that wouldn't change with a different recipe

[limpid iron]

I just mean its easy for the balance to mess up some way 😔

[dense violet]

not if you do 1:1:1 or have a buffer of empty cannisters

[reef basin]

if using the 1:1:1 blueprints, it's the same as blenders

[limpid iron]

no canisters though

[reef basin]

canisters are on a closed loop

you just put like 20 in it

[limpid iron]

one of the refineries kinda hogged a bunch after the fuel backed up

[reef basin]

yeah that's why you don't centralise canisters 😉

[limpid iron]

wdym by centralise

I just put a bunch of empty canisters into the system until the packaged water hit 600/min

[reef basin]

the point of 1:1:1 is that you make a small loop with one refinery and two packagers, put 20 canisters in that loop and treat that as a "kind-of blender"

then repeat that whole thing for as many times as you need

[limpid iron]

this is my setup
#screenshots message

[limpid iron]

oh you do the water in line too

[reef basin]

yeah that's what I mean - you have central belt for all canisters

and that gives you issues

hence why make it 1:1:1

[limpid iron]

ppl replying to my messages in screenshots, it gets auto deleted and they dont try to message me in this chat

[reef basin]

yeah that's why you don't use #screenshots for discussions like these 🙂

[limpid iron]

if they really wanted to say something, they could try sending it here lol

[reef basin]

and if you wanted to ask a question with media attached, you could do it in #1038092680493801533 🙂

[heady cobalt]

Looks like you don’t have enough empty canisters.

[limpid iron]

I do

the refineries take 600/min and the water packagers are outputting 600/min

[heady cobalt]

You don’t have a full belt come by out of the storage container. Use it as a buffer so always have a stack or two in the container. I’m assuming the storage container is empty?

[reef basin]

or much better - get rid of the buffer and make it 1:1:1

[limpid iron]

I had the container there to input canisters into the system when it started up

so yeah its empty

[limpid iron]

I'll def do 1:1:1 when I get mk3 miners for my main turbofuel factory

requires a bit of compacted coal

[limpid iron]

is it just
water packager -> refinery -> fuel unpackager

[reef basin]

yes

[limpid iron]

and it uses the closed canister loop?

or do the 2 packagers just have their own loop

[heavy creek]

can someone help me in the #1038092680493801533 channel? ty!

[reef basin]

yes, post a message there and wait for answers

[scenic mirage]

does nitric acid have headlift issues? or is it like nitrogen gas

[unkempt blade]

yes, it's not a gas

[green fiber]

its a liquid

[zealous urchin]

headlift issues 😆

ure gonna tell it to see therapist or what

[lusty delta]

Are there gonna be any content updates planned? I haven't kept up with the streams but I haven't seen any major updates in a while

[feral jay]

yes

They just play it pretty close to the chest as to when and what those will be

1.2 I think is due out around Q2 this year

[golden nexus]

meant to be a new game mode, we will see that that involves

[feral jay]

The release schedule is officially "When It's Ready"

[mortal ginkgo]

1.2 patch will bring alt recipes that are usable only by Impure Limestone Nodes. 100% confirmed #fulltrust #nobias

cant wait tbhimhobrwu

[feral jay]

Source: #trustmebrah

[mortal ginkgo]

I might be impure, but my soul is pure #cantlieno

[feral jay]

I want priority pipe splitters/mergers and better train logic

[mortal ginkgo]

big dog wants pipe improvements while the whole system is barely hanging on by a thread

[feral jay]

And a pause function, I shouldn't need a mod to let me pause a single player game

[reef basin]

the game is not a singleplayer game tho 😛

[feral jay]

True, but that's not really my point

Just add a pause feature and let players enable or disable it as they wish

I can see the argument for not including one in competitive games, but not co-op games

[vale solstice]

can someone explain where im meant to be placing my block signals, i have 2 push-pull locamotives going into 1 station, i had them working untill i added another freight wagon, they then broke and ended up just getting stuck

[leaden turret]

• people can be dicks to each other in co-op games
• technical difficulties

[feral jay]

Better to ask in #1038092680493801533 with an overhead screenshot or two

[feral jay]

The former I can see, but the latter not so much, the pause feature already exists from the console

[leaden turret]

I'm referring to technical difficulties that can occur when you try to sync pause / unpause of a multiplayer session over a network

[feral jay]

ohh yeah ok that makes sense... they could enable one for non-networked games at least

Mind you, pausing a game has been a solved problem since like... Unreal Tournament or so

[leaden turret]

I think it was only with 1.0 that a "true" single player option was added

[mortal ginkgo]

So let me give you some details about your problems:

1- There is a mod for better train logic where they frequently check which path to take incase their current one is blocked, basically the normal train game behavior.

2- There is a way to make a priority merger and it is using unpowdered pump on the low priority pipe and a powdered pump on the priority belt. Before you ask yes, pumps create priority because they create work pressure.

3- For splitter, well it is what valves supposed to do but eh they be wonky.

4- For Game Pause, some people saw a "Pause Game" option in 1.2 by checking the stream they once did (the one where they also got weather control etc). They don't speak about those openly so don't take my word for it.

5- Hi, how are you?

While some people says "this game isn't single player", it doesn't make sense. If you are the sole single person in the game, it is a single player game and it SHOULD be much easier to pause entire game simulation. Devs might address this.

I mean, this is not the first time devs disagree with minority of playerbase who also thinks fluids are ok while devs at least working on it somewhat. 😛

Yes, I yapped. Enjoy the yap.

[feral jay]

I've looked at the better train logic mod but I don't want to become dependent on it, all my mods are vanilla friendly, and I do use VIPs and VOPs. The VOPs are reliable afaik but the VIPs rely on black magic voodoo witchcraft and pixie dust to work

[mortal ginkgo]

👍

[feral jay]

I have "Just Pause" installed and it works flawlessly

But I haven't tried it multiplayer

[mortal ginkgo]

To be fair I am not fan of the "hide everything as if you are making Elden Ring 2" attitude of devs. Early Access times? Sure. You want to keep hype going.

Now? Just address the stuff bro. 😛

1.2 ain't gonna be a new zone and 3453 recipes added. They could just be more talkative about it.

[mortal ginkgo]

funny enough servers use console commands to pause the game (though its not full pause as some calculations still going on but like game's stopped 95%)

no single player would care if fluids still calculated their ultra stupid sloshing when game paused

[somber smelt]

what priority group should power storages be?

[feral jay]

I used the console pause command before I installed Just Pause, it just took longer to type it out. Now it's just mapped to my Pause key.

Like I fail to understand how game developers refuse to accunt for the fact that doorbells and phones ring, pots boil over, children break things and get into fights, etc...

[leaden turret]

wtf is the bot warning about?

[feral jay]

Why am I getting a language warning? that's weird, I've used a good number of four letter words in here and never got that

[mortal ginkgo]

My defense on this: Unreal Engine doesn't provide a reliable pause option that also account for multithreading.

Due to its infinite resource + no penalty for death + sandbox nature, game doesn't need much pause option imho but I don't mind it being there for people requesting it.

[feral jay]

ah, I misspelled "account" as "accunt"

yep that's it

[mortal ginkgo]

bot be like kek

[feral jay]

But I can tell @mortal ginkgo here to go fuck himself, and I don't think I get a warning for that...

[mortal ginkgo]

I like how bot states what it needs to say and leaves without allowing any defense. Truly a reddit mod.

[feral jay]

nope

[mortal ginkgo]

Well I guess I will just do that then. Hard times. 😔

[feral jay]

It's a bot, it's not like it can respond back anyway

[ornate saffron]

Top priority along with all power infrastructure

[jovial beacon]

Yes 2 people can in fact do two different things

[golden nexus]

Yes

[jovial beacon]

I think your friend is just rage baiting you

[ornate saffron]

@green fiber I made my mark 6 belt factory in a cave. Looked like a horror movie with bug sitting on roots in the distance and partical accelerators flashing and no other lighting then the machines

[golden nexus]

Find a different coop partner?

There is many ways to do the game coop...

[green fiber]

i like how constantly gloomy the caves are actually. the only annoying bit is floodlights kinda fail sometimes because caves are so odd with collision sometimes

[coral marsh]

Man, I love your underground mining outpost

[golden nexus]

why not head off and do your own factory?

[ornate saffron]

I sometimes get random sunlight in a cave with no source. Makes me laugh

[golden nexus]

Will warn you, not everyone stays friends at the end of playing satisfactory together 😉

[mortal ginkgo]

An issue as old as humanity, that light shines through the other side because caves got no thickness kek

[ornate saffron]

Its like Mario kart that way

[ornate saffron]

I like them thicccccccc

[mortal ginkgo]

We are now officially "bros".

[golden nexus]

Well compedative games are typically easir to long as the skill is matched, if the skill is not matched then the person not as good will stop playing unless they win about 20-30% of the time

[jovial beacon]

I don’t think I could play it with anyone tbh

None of my friends are the types to enjoy it🥲🥀

[ornate saffron]

Making my adaptive control units factory and one impure limestone is the perfect fit (with wet concrete)

[golden nexus]

Well people have different ideas so there ways to play and ways that people will fall out rapidly

[feral jay]

I play with my nephews sometimes, but otherwise I'm also a single player player

[jovial beacon]

I’ve been hyper fixated on it for the past 2 weeks and no one I talk to abt it really finds it interesting 😭

[mortal ginkgo]

Finally, someone UNDERSTANDS

[coral marsh]

Fr?

[ornate saffron]

Transparent guidelines and bounderies maybe needed to help support this gaming relationship.

[jovial beacon]

I’d see that happening a few hours into a world but wouldn’t the majority of the start be automating everything and setting up factories for each resource?

[ornate saffron]

Ya, got the math infront of me

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont think there are guidelines to fit to my playing style. I love decorating. 500 hour game time and I managed to finish phase 2.

[coral marsh]

How many Acu's are you planning to make

[ornate saffron]

2/min.

[golden nexus]

You get different problems. Like one of the worst combinations is having very exp with non exp people.

[jovial beacon]

Exp as in Experienced?

[golden nexus]

yup

[coral marsh]

Cool, 2/min is fair

[jovial beacon]

Oh so a guy making optimized factories and spaghetti with overflow?😭

[golden nexus]

Game moves too fast for the new players so they don't get to figure out stuff properly, the exp person just step in / take over

[ornate saffron]

Ill need more later but ill build them when needed ^-^

Ill have more tools In the toolbox then

[jovial beacon]

I only just started putting my overflow to use too😭

[coral marsh]

Yee

[ornate saffron]

Thats the diffrence mentoring and trying to get shit done.

When I play with a less experienced player I try to let them fail then explain how something works so the can understand the solution. Build a knowledge base so they can figure out solutions

[jovial beacon]

Quick question for you exp players

[golden nexus]

Yeah of course. But as a group it can get much worse

[ornate saffron]

Absolutely.

[golden nexus]

Like if you have 4:2 the 2 "idle" are going to speed run regardless

[jovial beacon]

I just unlocked the refinery not long ago and made myself a rubber and plastic factory and use the extra stuff for packaged fuel for my jet pack

I remember seeing another milestone that said it used fuel for energy, does that mean the packaged fuel?

[golden nexus]

no there is a fuel gen you unlock to burn fuel from pipes directly

[mortal ginkgo]

no, fuel by itself you will see it as fuel generator has fluid input

[vale solstice]

very proud of myself, fixed the train issue myself :3

[golden nexus]

btw.. there is over 14 ways to approach "oil" 😛

[ornate saffron]

The jetpack uses hard biomass, package biomass, packaged fuel, packaged turbo fuel, and packaged rocket fuel

[jovial beacon]

Oh so I can use the excess waste from refineries to make it self sustaining and to add to my power grid?😭

Man i remember dying piling up biomass in the early game and finallly feeling like I had breathing room with coal gens, refineries seem even easier

[golden nexus]

Yeah an initial oil production can be made self sustaining either by burning pet coke in coal gens (25/min) or in fuel gens

[ornate saffron]

Waste. I suppose you can look at it that way. But my primary use for heavy oil residue is to turn it into fuel

[jovial beacon]

Am I better off doing pet coke or fuel gens?

[golden nexus]

yes

[coral marsh]

Fuel gens are easy af, coal doesn't produce much power but its a good midway between biomass and fuel

[jovial beacon]

I remember the word waste somewhere that why I called it that🥲

[ornate saffron]

Its a choice. Either is good. Most prefer the fuel generator

[coral marsh]

Pet coke can be used in the making of coke steel ingots an alt recipe (very good one too) but not much else

[mortal ginkgo]

not much else? Aliminum entered the chat thanks to you.

[golden nexus]

The chocies begin to suit you... so in this world i bring crude oil to me... i then make plastic/rubber the pet coke is then used to supply the coal gens beside it... #screenshots message

This free's up a coal node again for other stuff....

[hot burrow]

How do I make my freinds useful instead of building a massive tower for no reason

[jovial beacon]

Another question I remember seeing in the mam another thing after fuel that involves compact coal, can that be used for the fuel gens too?

[coral marsh]

I forget coal isnt always a requirement. I need to remind myself that charcoal, biocoal and pet coke can be used as well

[golden nexus]

Yes... it doubles energy in the coal

[coral marsh]

My bad, I will accept that L (lol)

[ornate saffron]

Turbo fuel

[coral marsh]

Yes, it takes the coal gen longer to burn it

Oh and yeah, its needed for turbo fuel

[ornate saffron]

After turbo is rocket

[jovial beacon]

I saved my hard drives to invest there , is it worth it?

[coral marsh]

100%

[golden nexus]

you should get like 50 of them 😛

theres all sorts of usful recipies

[ornate saffron]

Petro coke is used in 7 alternate recipes. Just another tool to use

[coral marsh]

Turbo fuel is often the most chosen option for fuel gens, its easy to produce en mass and doesn't cost a terrible amount

[jovial beacon]

Sorry for all the questions I’m not too sure on a lot🥲

[golden nexus]

Yup, Can make steel from it too....

[coral marsh]

We all learn from asking, dont feel ashamed

[jovial beacon]

Ah man now I’m excited to get home and automate that stuff

[coral marsh]

I have almost 400 hours on the game and im still learning a lot

[ornate saffron]

Not a problem. ^-^

[mortal ginkgo]

its ok we get it, you are a silly goober

[golden nexus]

What happens is when you hit oil, your game becomes your and "Whats the best way to do X?" becomes extremly subjective and based on what you have / don't have in your save and where you are doing things

[ornate saffron]

Pushing 1000 and im still learning. Im in spec ed

[coral marsh]

Theres an alt recipe that turns heavy residue oil straight into fuel without a bi product, you then turn that fuel into turbo fuel in a refinery with compact coal.

[coral marsh]

I have adhd, I can soak up a shit ton of info, but retaining all of it, is the tricky part

[jovial beacon]

Ah man I can’t wait it’s awesome because my compact coal factory is right next to like 3 oil nodes

[ornate saffron]

Same, its the recall that's a bitch lol

[coral marsh]

YES

[golden nexus]

Like oil is...

1. Burn it in coal gens
2. Sink it in bulk
3. Coke Steel ingot / alt
4. Temperater Caterium ingot
5. Temperater Copper Ingot
6. Make Circuit boards
7. Make Turbo fuel with it in blender
8. Make diamonds with it in Particle accel.
9. Make Aluminium scrap
10. You can also run tractor, trucks, explorer, drones on it
11. Combination of the above

[ornate saffron]

I find writing it out helps me retain it in my RAM longer

[jovial beacon]

Since my early game had so many outages due to a lack of power my power production is almost double what I need😭

[ornate saffron]

Them rookie numbers. Im using 2GW and producing 20gw

[coral marsh]

Theres a couple good spots in the game where uts easiest to craft turbo fuel, blue crater and another area. The nodes near the rocky desert dont have coal within 4 or 500m but within 1.1km and sulfur within 1.6km. I reccomend the blue crater area to the south east of the map. Theres about 6 oil nodes, 2-3 of them are pure, the rest ar normal, theres roughly 3 coal nodes and 3 sulfur nodes as well and decent size lake of water.

[ornate saffron]

Fuse blowing is the worst I hate it. I over build and backup my power with priority switches

[jovial beacon]

I’ve been entirely focused on making a factory for heavy modular frames so I haven’t had the leisure of pursuing My desire to make a obnoxiously high production😭

[coral marsh]

See, I would write things down but uh, my dominant hands wrist, is (i shit you not on this) 2cm off center, I cannot write properly because of that

[ornate saffron]

Im about to finish phase 3 and I have no personal use Hframes lol

[golden nexus]

hmf and "high volmne" don't really exist in the same statement

[jovial beacon]

I just unlocked geothermal gens , so I was gonna add them for the touch of extra production when I see the geysers

[coral marsh]

I got 148 fuel gens on Rf, 58 coal gens down as well and nearly every geothermal port taken, with 108.5Gw worth of power storage units active

[jovial beacon]

480 iron ingots pm and it’s all to make 2 heavy modular frames pm 🥀

[coral marsh]

Guys, I hit a really good choice in alt recipes

Heavy flexible frames and pure iron ingots

[jovial beacon]

Btw I learned you can save scum hard drive rescans

[golden nexus]

solid steel is the game changer for steel tbh

[jovial beacon]

And I got a option for 6 inventory slots

[coral marsh]

Make sure to place down at least 3 power storage units per geothermal gen, upto 20 if 2 nodes next to each other are normal nodes

[coral marsh]

I mostly use the coke steel recipe when I get it.

I chose pure iron

[golden nexus]

You realise these 2 statments contradict each other?

[feral jay]

You can also just edit recipes in with a save editor

[golden nexus]

Cause coke steel wants ore, making it incompatible with pure iron recipie

[cunning glade]

I'm finally done with my factory holy shit

Now the best part connect the oil and watch it all work well I smoke

[vale solstice]

im at phase 4 and ive not used a single alt recipe, are they that good??

[cunning glade]

And then I immediately need too do power

[cunning glade]

Wtf wtf

What?

Like fr?

[vale solstice]

deadass LMAO

[coral marsh]

Who me?

[cunning glade]

I'd argue they're more important than slugs or sloops

[golden nexus]

Yes

[coral marsh]

Explain, please.

[cunning glade]

Hold on let me show u something

[vale solstice]

bet

[golden nexus]

You state you use pure iron and coke steel ingot? Correct?

[ornate saffron]

I'd do pure

[coral marsh]

I did

[coral marsh]

I hardly use the pure iron recipe

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=KXHRUyElKZ1mY5cyPFBA factory with alts

[coral marsh]

If ive caused any confusion, I am sorry, its 4:30am here and im tired but it is also, too early in the morning for me to sleep

[golden nexus]

You stated this here? #satisfactory message

[coral marsh]

Yea they where the two alt recipe choices id just been given to choose from in my second world save

I just wanted to say I got 2 really good alt recipe choices, only reason I chose pure iron ingots is because I am already using the base recipe for HMF

[vale solstice]

how in tf are you moving 6560 aluminum scrap a min

[ornate saffron]

Smoke while the errors build and you spend hours trouble shooting. At least in my experience. I don't smoke cigarettes only leaf. Which makes it a little harder and time is fiction

[cunning glade]

Okay so fun fact without alts that factory isn't possible

Adding pure copper makes it work

Pure copper nearly doubles the amount of copper u get

[golden nexus]

its more than double its 15 -> 37.5

or 6 -> 15

[cunning glade]

Fuck if I remember

[golden nexus]

its the alloy that doubles it

[cunning glade]

Just know it does a lot

[somber smelt]

pure aluminum ingot recipe is just an easier craft with no downsides right?

[cunning glade]

I'd restart and get like 5 before u start even automating imo

[feral jay]

I usually use it

[cunning glade]

Now u can finish that world or whatever

[somber smelt]

oh wait it is worse

[cunning glade]

But def do a playthrough where u use them from the start

[vale solstice]

what good would restarting do? surely its not that deep lmao

[golden nexus]

It can be kinda deep

[vale solstice]

id sooner do a full rebuild than restart?

[cunning glade]

It def is also doing a second playthrough is so nice

[golden nexus]

but it depends a lot on your build style and how things are coupled

[cunning glade]

I'm not saying drop that world

[vale solstice]

mine is mostly modular, only bigger combined factorie sfor afew things c:

[cunning glade]

Just after I'd do another with alts as it main focus

[cunning glade]

Do u have hmf automated

[feral jay]

I just realized I automated computers before heavy modular frames this save lol

[vale solstice]

i also dont particularly care for the most incredibly optimised everything LMAO, im just enjoing the game c:

yes c:

[cunning glade]

I'm making 50 a min with 0 screws

[vale solstice]

okay but i dont need them that much that quick LMAO, i think im making 10 a min

[cunning glade]

And alts can make the game way more enjoyable cuz they can be less work

[sullen gull]

Laaaame! 😏

[cunning glade]

Well I'm not saying that but I'm sure its using a good amount of screws which were a pain

[cunning glade]

Yeah ik but tools gives me the recipes

[feral jay]

A lot of the time the alt recipes just make things easier, by eliminating the need for a particular resource, eliminating a step in the production chain, or by using assemblers instead of manufacturers, they're not always just more effecient, but oftentimes just simpler

[ornate saffron]

I view alts as another tool. Not better or worse. Sometimes you are space limited so you want less machines sometime you want more output this can cost more resources or power or space

[sullen gull]

I'm just poking fun mate... = ❤️ 🤣

[cunning glade]

Ik lol I love screws too

[feral jay]

I love my crystal computers

Computers without manufacturers

[cunning glade]

For example power and rubber are huge from alts

Making 9k rubber and plastic combined with 3k oil

[vale solstice]

i fear we play the game very very different and wont agree LMAO

but, thats fine c:

i dont ever see the need for 9k rubber, maybe i will in the future, but who knows c:

[cunning glade]

Can u daisy chain battery's?

Interesting

[cunning glade]

Def not but I'm just saying they're very helpful for those

[sullen gull]

Yeah, nothing wrong with playing any way you see fit. Huge numbers/min aren't really ever ""needed"

Unless Quickwire and Screws 🤣

[feral jay]

THey're actually one of the only (if not the only) buildables with multiple power connections , for that exact reason

[vale solstice]

yeah, theyre my 2 biggest which i store as is, 200/min & 320/min respectively

[ornate saffron]

I tend to fall into the same playthrough. For example I always build nitro rocket fuel in blue crater.

Im trying to break that. So this time I built my fuel on the west coast and im turning the blue crater into a ore processing facility named Terok Nor ( Bajorin Slaves not included)

[golden nexus]

Built all your plastic / rubber there next time and rail the sulhur to the west coast 😉

[sullen gull]

Couldn't ever get into DS9. re-watching SG-1 atm 😏

[golden nexus]

We need a star gate game tbh

[ornate saffron]

Sg-1 has become the gold standard for sci fi. Its a good mix of drama, action, and comedy

[cunning glade]

Wasn't sure but I'm at 66gw for max consumption and max production fluctuates from about 66-74ish gw

[feral jay]

We just watched the movie the other day, I totally forgot Kurt Russel played the colonel

[ornate saffron]

Im going nuclear this time. Ive never done it. Im forcing it. Im thinking swamp bottom right of map

[ornate saffron]

Love me Kurt Russell. But that role belongs to Mr Anderson

[sullen gull]

❤️ Spader. (More so his later stuff. Guy is articulate as hell)

[feral jay]

yeah agreed

[golden nexus]

anywhere, i suggest you start with "one node"

[ornate saffron]

Ya, im going to start with the impure node in the swamp water fall

[sullen gull]

The swamp isn't horrible. Basically has everything you would need for a decent sized plant.

[feral jay]

I loved James Spader in The Blacklist, one of his best roles imo

[ornate saffron]

I've told myself id force nuclear for the last to starts. Lol. But this time is the one. Ive broken all my habits so far.

[ornate saffron]

Let's move this to #off-topic-general

[sullen gull]

Eh, Boston Legal > Blacklist. But both great 🙂

[coral marsh]

James spader is one of the best actors ever, him voicing Ultron for the MCU was a legendary choice

[cunning glade]

Ugh once I start this factory I'll need too basically instantly start on power

[vale solstice]

speaking of power, im abouta get jet fuel setup, how long should the lines of gens be? because i was having issues last time with filling them all

[somber smelt]

should i turn turbofuel into rocket fuel and burn it into power gens or only to make rocket fuel and keep the rest as turbofuel. Its more of a question like is there enough gas in this world?

[ornate saffron]

Jet fuel?

Do you mean fuel or rocket fuel?

[vale solstice]

that one lmao-

mhm mhm c:

[ornate saffron]

I really like the nitro rocket fuel recipe. Takes a lot of sulfur but you get compacted coal as a bi product. Everything you need is in the blue crator

[ornate saffron]

That was a either or question.

[vale solstice]

rocket

[cunning glade]

Which t5 part is worth the most points

[somber smelt]

anddd where exacly is that crator?

[queen slate]

Sse I think

Between swamp and purple weird (cool) plant forest

[somber smelt]

ah hell nah

[queen slate]

If you scan for oil you should be able to find it

[somber smelt]

that biome made me die after 60 days

while i was lootin em hard drives

[queen slate]

The swamp?

[somber smelt]

hah weird but cool

[somber smelt]

it was more empty

just rocky ground i guess

[queen slate]

You can look at an interactive map of you want exact location but i don’t know the exact location just know it’s sse

[sullen gull]

You can hover over the IG map and get a location (Top right corner)

[sullen gull]

You get compacted coal with any RF recipe. And, if you use the base, you can just recycle it back in

Personally, I hate using 2x the sulfur for the nitro alt though🤷‍♂️

[hollow bay]

tinker do you perhaps know wh my train loads items but doesn't unload them?

wait nvm I found the issue

[unkempt blade]

I think it might be suggesting that you should use factory carts instead

[hollow bay]

nope I just didn't set the station

[sullen gull]

At least ... three of them!

With Jump pads ofc

[unkempt blade]

The game is very subtle with its recommendations. It might still be the carts thing 😄

[ornate saffron]

Dm'd you with a atlas

[ornate saffron]

Can you use a jump pad while in a cart?

[leaden turret]

yes

[sullen gull]

Lol, was about to make a clip, but now my game won't start 🙁

Gonna try a reboot...

[ornate saffron]

Sexy

[unkempt blade]

yeah and the cart does a lot of delightful flips when you do

[leaden turret]

they were used as traps in the corporate ladder event

[ornate saffron]

Incredible

[proper anvil]

If I use uranium and/or plutonium rods in drones will they also be radioactive flying around ?

[white dawn]

The drone ports, at least, will be radioactive if there's any rods accumulated in the hopper

I'm actually not sure if the drone itself is radioactive, since it converts the rod to more generic "energy" as it's consumed from the port

Though the drone does remember which fuel types it's consumed, so perhaps it is

[proper anvil]

Got it ty all

[white dawn]

You'd presumably have to be awfully close to actually feel it, though. A single rod doesn't generate much

[sullen gull]

From my experience, they are. Though in hindsight, they were carrying Uranium as well..

[dusky hedge]

hate it when yo ubuild an entire floor of a factory befor you reailse half the machines are out by one nudge 😐

[sullen gull]

Ugh, story of my life 😭

[ornate saffron]

Lol. I feel that

[fresh chasm]

if i found a coal node is it best to build near it?

[golden nexus]

iron production goes near iron, power later goes near coal + water

[fresh chasm]

so it it best to have my power station all in the same spot pretty much and just run wires?

[sullen gull]

No real "best" and completely up to you. Though, If doing a coal power plant for instance, would be "better" to find some coal near water like with locs -778, 1643, and -1570,-2796

[fresh chasm]

ok i gotcha

[ornate saffron]

I try to build in the location that give me the most resources I need. I prioritize fluids though as I don't want to move them and real distance

[fresh chasm]

ok thanks guys 👍

[fickle locust]

I need to do 40 edit heavy modular frames, which recipe would you pick? Heavy seems to be slightly fewer resources for slightly better output

[golden nexus]

its depends ont he type of power, if your new, build biomassburners power next to iron / initial base

[golden nexus]

coal power comes later

[feral jay]

WHen you get to coal power, if you have a choice between building the power plant near either the water or the coal, build it near the water. It's a good idea to keep you pipes as short as possible

[dusky hedge]

"you have been playing for two hours" oh how wrong you are 😐

[tired cypress]

A good rule in general is to process material as much as possible before sending it elsewhere, because in most cases the result takes up less space, so you can send more of it using the same belt/vehicle, and more quickly.

[zealous urchin]

i would do just normal modular frame

from Rplate and rods

[fickle locust]

Oy I meant Heavy Modular Frames

[zealous urchin]

then encased ofc

[fickle locust]

Yeah encased seemed best
Just less resources required for some reason

[feral jay]

FINALLY, diluted fuel

...or OC supercomputers dammit

[fickle locust]

Fuel is still the choice IMO but that's a cruel choice

[feral jay]

It's generally the only reason I pick a recipe right away instead of leaving it in the library, if it's a choice like that

This way OC supercomputers can get rolled again

I'm sulfur-limited on my power production rn so diluted fuel will make a huge difference

[dawn mist]

If I were to create a factory dedicated to producing steel items used heavily, what should I include?
Steel Beams, Steel Pipes, Encased industrial, anything else?

[fickle locust]

Heavy Modular Frames

[fickle locust]

Yeah you want both, but if you haven't gotten diluted yet you probably aren't ready to use OC at this moment so you can pick diluted first

[feral jay]

yep

[dawn mist]

Noted. I haven't unlocked them yet, but I'll make a wing for them.
Anything else I should plan for?

[fickle locust]

Stators and SAM fluctuators use Steel, technically, as does an alternative for rotors
And in the sense that you use stators and rotors more often than you'd think for putting down machines I guess they're worth including

But at a limited level, just to build up a container to feed a dimensional depot

[dawn mist]

🫡

[feral jay]

I usually dedicate an entire factory to heavy frames, you need quite a few of those

[dawn mist]

Yeah, I'm looking at heavy frames and it looks like that'll need to pull in iron.

[lilac pecan]

is possible remove stones from the map? And make holes in the ground? Remove soil?

[feral jay]

It depends, no, and no

[dawn mist]

Yeah, this isn't DRG.

[feral jay]

Smaller rocks, and rocks with cracks in them, can be blown up, but terraforming is not a thing otherwise

[dawn mist]

Though underground stuff would be neat.

[feral jay]

There's other ways to do that. Building underground is totally a thing.

[hard stump]

I’m assuming there’s no videos for blueprints with path and block signals set up and working? One thing I can’t get my head around and would like to try to make 100% sure the new train design will work with them

[feral jay]

Do it without path signals at all first is my general recommendation

They are entirely unnecessary, they only help to speed trains up, but any train network that will work with path signals will also work without them

[tall lantern]

and they can just slow a network down

[hard stump]

Well the issue is I built a entire track system to realize they were to close together for signals to even work and I’m not about to waste my time again rebuilding it all just to learn still not good enough of a distance

[feral jay]

Yes, path signals will also just slow your trains down, if you do them wrong

[tall lantern]

a foundation in between will make sure they're far enough apart

[hard stump]

Doesent bother me if they get delayed if anything will kinda make sure each load has more

[feral jay]

If your tracks are too close together for signals to work, you need to rebuild them farther apart, there's no other solution to that that I'm aware of

[hard stump]

Not a full foundation beteeen but what someone said to me last night should be enough but want to test that to make 100% sure

[feral jay]

I usually build them on adjacent foundations, I've not had a problem

[tall lantern]

should be fine mostly, might just need to be careful with corners

[hard stump]

That’s why I ask as longing as I already ran into that issue once

[tall lantern]

further apart you place 'em, less likely they'll end up merging blocks

[feral jay]

Ask what exactly? I'm not sure what the question is

w00t just unlocked drones

Now I need a battery plant dammit

[hard stump]

Never mind

[ornate saffron]

You can use coal and all its variants, fuel and all its variants, nuclear rods and batteries.

Biomass too but that seems like self harm

[fickle locust]

Huzzah I can make my HMF in the top right corner of the map around that weird crater thing

[feral jay]

Yeah but I like batteries for drones, a 100 or 200/min plant is relatively simple to set up, and batteries aren't used for much else, so you never accidentally run out of fuel for them

[ornate saffron]

The return of the jedi pit

[feral jay]

I've done drones with turbofuel before, not a big fan

[ornate saffron]

To each there own. Ive only used rocket fuel in the past. Im forcing batteries this playthrough. Its the " gotta do everything i havent" playthrough

[feral jay]

In the end it doesn't make that much difference which fuel you use as long as you have dedicated production for it

[fickle locust]

I got so used to batteries being the required drone fuel, and then was excited to be able to switch to turbo fuel, and now I've come back around to thinking I prefer using batteries

[feral jay]

But I found I tend to just peel off a bit of turbofuel here and there, and then I run out too easily

[random thicket]

Has anyone done a speed run of Satisfactory? I would like to try a sub 20hr complete finish of the game.

[sullen gull]

Personally I prefer Rocket fuel anymore. Since I usually don't build an oil power plant till I have it and it's nothing to "overproduce" a bit for drone fuel. And then, just have a port at each location that goes to pick up fuel at the power plant

[fickle locust]

Yeah the fuel fetch shuttle is very important, drones don't really work otherwise

[gloomy tusk]

i consider sub 100hr fast 😅

[random thicket]

only took 60hrs to get 100% achievements, fastest I done complete playthrough has been 44hrs so far but that was a casual play through nothing serious.

[tall lantern]

speedruns have definitely been done

[gloomy tusk]

44 hours for a casual play?

[feral jay]

Record is just over 11 minutes apparently, which is... insane

https://www.speedrun.com/satisfactory

[gloomy tusk]

how did somebody do that

[random thicket]

yeah. only about 250 GW of power was used

[tall lantern]

glitches probably

[random thicket]

ive streamed it all at release of 1.0

golden nut took a bit longer to get.

[feral jay]

Dude's basically a professional speedrunner

[tall lantern]

yeah, double digit hours is pretty fast

[random thicket]

ive never had a game last longer than 100hrs.

[gloomy tusk]

im still on my first run and its on 150

havent even gotten past tier 6 yet also

[random thicket]

I don't do pretty, I can I just not inclined to do pretty, I use manifolds, no BPs, straight vanilla

I use a BP to make a cannon base as they are annoying.

50 constructors in manifold all belted and wired only takes about 10 min to do.

[tall lantern]

this doesn't sound very casual lol

[random thicket]

for the golden nut I built a factory to produce a steady 20mil points a min 58 nuclear power plants all tripple slugged.

about 500 Iron Wire, 11250 wire/min I tend to build.

[gloomy tusk]

the thing is though its only completing the onboarding process btw

[feral jay]

ohhhh

[random thicket]

before space elevator is built I would have discovered stitched plates, then build it.

Was thinking of trying a fast run, with a few people, just need to find said people, do a few hours of training, to get them to the speeds I can build at. Then attempt a straight 20hr playthrough.

[sullen gull]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[random thicket]

its the only game i am good enough at that I think I could do any sort of speed run attempt 😄

[near stratus]

Is it viable to include logistics floors in blueprints? Like should i pre assemble production building blueprints with a logistics floor?

[sullen gull]

That's all I do

[mortal ginkgo]

why is there no slowrun boards where player must beautifully decorate everything and tap on all impure limestone nodes for extra points? #nobias

[reef basin]

I personally wouldn't bother with logistic floor, but if you want them, why not

[sullen gull]

Though, I make the blueprints without the floor, so that I have freedom to do whatever I want with the floor.

[near stratus]

I see, the thing is i tried to add conveor holes with them and like atach the blueprint to an already existing floor, but it didn´t work properly

Might have done some wierd mode on the gun or smth

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message #screenshots message

If you're on PC, you're welcome to the blueprints to get an idea.

[near stratus]

Hmmmm

I did not know i could nudge the blueprints to force them to play nice

Thank you :)

[sullen gull]

The initial one is usually placed using "Default". The others I place with "Blueprint" (Can do autoconnect, but end up with some bad stubby belts. Personally I don't put those stubby belts on any more and just connect them after placed. Also, I use the beams, because if I didn't, sometimes things would be .5 or .25m off

[near stratus]

Beams are in the AWSOME shop yes?

I sees

I will take note of this, ty

[zealous urchin]

there is 8 or 9 hrs

[sullen gull]

Beams are probably, maybe arguably, the best building item/tool in the game 🤣

[near stratus]

Is that so?

[zealous urchin]

road barrier

[near stratus]

How so?

[zealous urchin]

road barrier is better

[sullen gull]

Heh, I only ever use those to align foundations to miners 😛

[sullen gull]

They just have a lot of utility. Measuring device, aligning for roads/rails, also using them to make many different "features" to purty up a factory. And many more I'm sure I'm not mentioning.

[covert quarry]

is SAM initially used to craft something?

[near stratus]

Ahhhh

I´ll buy them

[sullen gull]

In the very beginning, used for MAM research. Later in the game, it becomes very useful.

[white dawn]

Research it in the MAM; you can build some useful things quite early on (requires Steel)

Though it will take you awhile until you can fully automate those useful things. :)

[sullen gull]

Imo, if you want to get heavy into building and making "cool" factories, you'll eventually want most of the items. But, outside of Structural Beam pack, I'm a huge advocate of getting everything under the Management section at a minimum.

[covert quarry]

i'll automate just the ores for now

[near stratus]

I just bought the wall outlets, i have all like the conveor holes and stuff

[white dawn]

Well, do the MAM research, especially if you've got Steel already

[near stratus]

#screenshots message @sullen gull Is this a good blueprint or do i need to redisgin it (All the blueprints for my production buildings are like this)

[white dawn]

You'll want to start using the stuff it can do for you, even if you've gotta hand-craft some materials for awhile. :)

[sullen gull]

Doesn't look bad. Also be sure you have at least 4, 6, or 8m for the logistics floor. However, for my personal tastes, I just make a single machine BP and just place as many as I want. Helps from having to delete stuff if I have an odd number of machines for instance.

[near stratus]

I have a 4M logistics floor

[sullen gull]

But, also because I have been doing a lot with curved foudations and it's much easier to arrange when in singles.

[near stratus]

Oh yea that does sound smart actually

[sullen gull]

Also, if not away, mergers and splitters can snap to the ceiling

[near stratus]

So wait if i include lift holes in the blueprint without the blueprint itself containing the logistics floor, will the blueprint snap the a pre-existing floor?

Actaully you did show me the nudging technique

So thats probably how its done

[sullen gull]

You will still have to nudge it down. And it may look like the floor holes aren't there in the hologram, but yes

[near stratus]

Aight, thx

[obsidian quail]

I still can't believe how much it scales up during the phases. phase 4 is bonkers I love it.

[sullen gull]

How I "quickly" set one up. Only thing missing is a "hidden power" blueprint I use and deleteing the foundations before saving #screenshots message

Also @near stratus , For buildings with fluids, I would not recommend going directly through the floor (Unless maybe with outputs) and keep fluids above the inputs of the machines.

[white dawn]

Just to set expectations somewhat, btw, Phase 5 is actually a bit of a breather. There's some fun new stuff in there but the primary complexity there remains the phase-4 parts used as ingredients. Phase 4 is kind of the peak, complexity-and-scalewise

So enjoy it! :D

[near stratus]

Makes sense

[near stratus]

Ah i see

[obsidian quail]

I am enjoying it. I gave up on trying to "be prepared" and just kind of make what I have work. Phase 3 lit a fire under my ass with the massive amount of automation required to get things moving properly. it was like the game was giving me permission to go nuts with scalability.

[marsh locust]

Can i delete the big building and put it els where the space shuttle

Elevator beam me up Scott materials

[ornate saffron]

You can delete and move the space elevator yes

[marsh locust]

Nice nice ! Thx

[sullen gull]

Can also do the same with the HUB fyi.

[ornate saffron]

Absolutely, I move my hub to my current build so when I inevitably fall to my death im where I need to be lol

[sullen gull]

Lol, my "hub area" 😏 : #screenshots message

Has everything to produce slugs/DNA, and sort/sink items

[weary kestrel]

Cute outpost

[sullen gull]

I can't take credit for the HUB and all the items clipped around it though. That was from someone else's BP as you can't "normall" put the hub into a blueprint designer 🤷‍♂️

[covert quarry]

don't tractors refuel automatically?

[white dawn]

Tractors will refuel at any station they stop at which has fuel available in the fuel hopper (so long as it matches the fuel already "in" the vehicle)

[covert quarry]

thx

[umbral lynx]

this game made me scared of my own cats

[white dawn]

-# mew

[umbral lynx]

scared sounds

[zealous urchin]

sacred*

[zenith sage]

Is it possible to somehow limit the particles from exploding boulders or at least make them disappear faster through options? It completely kills my fps... (and sometimes gives heart attacks if something clips through rubble to kill me)

[sullen gull]

Turn away before detonating? 🤷‍♂️ (Not even sure if that helps heh)

I usually walk/slide jump out of the area to get the rubble to disappear.

[zenith sage]

I'm pretty sure whether I'm looking at them or not isn't affecting it... and I'd have to stay turned around for like 10 seconds anyway so not the greatest solution 😅

[sullen gull]

Fair

[rugged fiber]

Set the Oblelisk and just get as far away as u can to try to get out of rendering area , it helps some

[white dawn]

Oddly for me that only seems to happen on certain rocks. Like most of them are fine but then I'll get one specific one and it's Slideshow City™ for like a minute

[zenith sage]

Yeah, I noticed that too.. pretty sure it depends on the size of the rock for me tho

To the mod corner I go then I guess

Coincidently I just found a mod that confirms to me that splitters on lifts are bugged in vanilla like I thought 😅

[rugged fiber]

THEY work greast though :>

[sullen gull]

Maybe for an older bug. Havn't had an issues for a while.

[zealous urchin]

24 fps technique

[zenith sage]

They do work great, it's just mostly visual or when deleting. Like they remain after deleting a blueprint, leave a blank spot when removed from a lift and are extremely tiny bit misaligned

(That was yesterday for me, so not old)

[sullen gull]

Ahh, interesting,

[rugged fiber]

👋 @sullen gull

[sullen gull]

Personally I just want them to fix the lift alignment on containers 🤣

[zenith sage]

Hm? I haven't noticed anything wrong with containers and lifts yet 🤔

[rugged fiber]

what is wrong with the alignment Tinker? you mean when you click the head TURNS at the last second?

[glass siren]

i have a really cool idea that would open a lot for more factory designs miners that have a built in spliter so that no over flow oucres

[sullen gull]

Sorry for those with OCD and haven't noticed it before: #screenshots message

@zenith sage and @rugged fiber

[zenith sage]

Huh.. interesting

[tranquil zinc]

is this fine as a water tower ? #screenshots message

[ornate saffron]

I have issues blowing up boulders on my intel/nvidia pc. Frame rate dips into single digits. It is rough

[rugged fiber]

OMG i do not look at things that close LOL

[sullen gull]

Probably, but not really needed imo.

[zenith sage]

I probably only ever connected lifts to storages from a floor hole closer up and just the top out to dimensional, so never noticed 😅

[quaint ember]

Why does using the packager delete one of the canisters…? Like where tf does it go

[ornate saffron]

What do you mean? Packages go in get unpacked and empty packages come out the other side and vice versa

[quaint ember]

Oh wait nevermind I’m a dumb dumb I didn’t read it 💀

Ignore me

[ornate saffron]

All good there is one instance where you can double packages and thats the package fuel recipe for the refinery

[quaint ember]

Gotcha

Interesting…

[zealous urchin]

🗿

[covert quarry]

dimensional depot is like infinite storage right? basically every item in the game but limited to its amount?

[rotund sentinel]

-# mrrp

[sullen gull]

So long as it's constantly being fed the items you want in there, basically.

[gloomy tusk]

can anyone try to help this guy out

[sullen gull]

They* may have had "One-click Build" selected in Controls

[vague jetty]

It's there a ⛵

[gloomy tusk]

ok thanks

[left lion]

the factory must grow

[vague jetty]

Are we space dwarves

[sullen gull]

I mean, the Pioneer is 1.8m (5'9"ish)

I was way off 😛

[queen slate]

If I have a pipe moving gas at 600/m will that be a problem

[dense violet]

depends how you pipe it

[sullen gull]

If you try to do it one straight manifold, probably.

[queen slate]

I think I did a very bad job because the flow rate fluctuates

[dense violet]

if you feed it point A to B , looped, you'll probably be fine

[sullen gull]

Well, remember, machines don't all cycle the same rate, so it may never be a sustained 600.

[dense violet]

Did you flood the system before really testing it?

[queen slate]

No it’s my first big factory

[dense violet]

what are the gas pipes feeding?

[queen slate]

Fuel power gens

[sullen gull]

Rocket fuel?

[queen slate]

Yh

[dense violet]

ok do a couple overhead images in #math-and-meta

[queen slate]

I’m sry I can’t do it rn

When im able to I’ll open up a q

[dense violet]

whenever you have time

[queen slate]

Thx

[unkempt blade]

a breather + all of the best tech from Stargate

[split condor]

I have a question about production rates, is there an easy method to figure out rate of production of a certain product vs usages across all of my factories. I.e. say plastic, and i am using in 3 or 4 machines across 2 factories? The only I know of presently is to check each machine, write what it using and rates then add up by hand.

[sullen gull]

Not sure if this is what you need, but you could use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production or https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/ to "layout" or generate such things?

[reef basin]

you can't really get that info in any other way than you said

what do you need it for?

[unkempt blade]

if you load your save in SCIM you can use their "statistics" to get global production like that

[split condor]

I used that to set up my current across the map factory chains, I was trying to to be careful of FPS issues.

[young dirge]

hello someone knows how to force satisfactory language ?
it used to use first application language on windows as expected, but seems to use windows session system language instead now

[split condor]

Umm to make sure I am making enough of the items or so I know if I can tap into a current supply line instead of building a new factory

[sullen gull]

I believe that just really comes from planning ahead

[split condor]

On console. But good idea