satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

After work I mostly explore and get hard drives and do the big stuff on the weekends.

[stone moth]

I dont need to explore lol

[ornate saffron]

Or in this case at work.

[stone moth]

You're employed?

ew

[ornate saffron]

Get this..... I am a inventory warehouse manager..... and I play factory games in my free time lol

[stone moth]

Peak, i hope i can get a job where i can work from home

So i can play games during meetings and stuff

[unkempt blade]

I'll starve to death before I ever go back to an open office 😆

[ornate saffron]

Slow season here. Im essentially being payed to make sure the place doesnt burn down.

[stone moth]

I'm still only a sophmore in high school so i have a few years

[unkempt blade]

I'm on-site with clients a couple times a week and that's all the in person work interaction I'll ever want

[ornate saffron]

I had my first haircut and shave last week since the end of September as I havent had to interact with humans

I was in full lumberjack man of The north mode

[stone moth]

Lol

[dim spoke]

whats the best thing i could turn excess heavy oil residue into

for sink

[ornate saffron]

Plastic and rubber.

[unkempt blade]

petroleum coke would be easy to do

[ornate saffron]

You will likely need both in the future so if you do you can just stop sinking them

[ornate saffron]

Also a good option

[dim spoke]

already have them made seperatly

[whole drum]

Can just turn it into fuel and "sink" it in some generators

[dim spoke]

oh thats true

ill do that ty

[ornate saffron]

Power overwhelming

[ornate saffron]

Ive never had too much heavy oil residue

[unkempt blade]

yeah the oil recipes have lots of nice options for what to do with it

[stone moth]

For turbo fuel you need 90 refineries? 😭

[ornate saffron]

Depends on the volume you want and if you overclock

[stone moth]

The guy im watching is trying to make a giant power plant i think, and he placed 90 refineries

[unkempt blade]

oil stuff is typically my first really big factory on a save

[stone moth]

Floydson

hes placing roughly 365 power plants

[ornate saffron]

My diluted packaged fuel factory uses 600 oil and has 50 refineries. Some of which but not all are overclocked

40 fuel generators

[queen slate]

Ur Canadian so it’s ok Canadians look good with beards and longhair

[dim spoke]

i love making kilometres of belts that are in no way good looking and take weird turns every once in a while

[ornate saffron]

I also cleaned up to see my day. He has dementia and will have no chance of recognizing me unless I have short hair and no beard

[queen slate]

All of my dune desert is like that

[dim spoke]

i have a central storage so my whole world is that rn

[ornate saffron]

If that is sarcasm I suggest blueprints. If not I am happy you are extracting joy from chaos

[queen slate]

Sorry man

[ornate saffron]

Its no bother. He spent a lifetime of abusing his body and mind with drugs. This is the result. He maybe my father bur hardly a parent

[zenith sage]

Damn... calculator makes some crazy production trees if all alt recipes are enabled 👀

[queen slate]

Fr

My calc keeps forcing me to use Sam when I amn’t tier 9 and can’t

[ornate saffron]

Calculator does exactly what you tell ir. It doesn't make the most efficient choices. To maximize input and output try tools

[ornate saffron]

I go to resources and uncheck sam

[queen slate]

Ye I should do that

[zenith sage]

Ah yeah, I'm using the calculator in tools, I did not like the one on scim

[ornate saffron]

I also tell tools what I have. If I have 300 oil I tell it thats all it has

[queen slate]

I’m about to under clock a pure bauxite node to do 10/min

[ornate saffron]

Gotcha. Since one is called calculator I got confused lol.

[queen slate]

This hurts me

[ornate saffron]

Lol

[zenith sage]

Unchecking the buildings and recipes is also amazing

[queen slate]

I need to make fluid canisters for jet pack rocket fuel but I don’t need that many so ig im wasting a gen

[zenith sage]

But there ain't no way in hell I'm building 300 refineries

[queen slate]

Blueprints can help

[ornate saffron]

Part of the reason I play these type of games is to brush up and keep using spreadsheets. So I take the numbers from tool then work it all out in spreadsheets

Overclock timings
Resource extraction, input, output pages for each factory that I link for logistics

[queen slate]

And it will look satisfying

[silver widget]

Diagonal Walls nd Railings! we need now

[queen slate]

What do you make your spreadsheets on

[ornate saffron]

120 if overclocked to 250

[ornate saffron]

Googlesheets

[queen slate]

I’ll have a look into it I usually use excel

[unkempt blade]

#screenshots message

[zenith sage]

Refineries are one thing I find cumbersome when it come to blueprints... hard to go vertical and my pipe connections somehow break even if everything is connected neatly in the blueprint...

[ornate saffron]

Sheets is free. Ill likely switch to open office as I am likely going to migrate to linux

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes pipes break with auto connect. But since my return a week ago I havent had that issue

[queen slate]

I’m gonna need to change my pipe manifold for my blenders too much nitrogen is going to one side

[zenith sage]

Yeah, I just noticed yesterday they were broken in my turbofuel plant and half of the generators were dead

[queen slate]

Is looping nitrogen manifolds useless

[ornate saffron]

I try to link up things in grouping. For example I link thre refineries together to feed 120 heavy oil residue to four refineries making of packaged fuel. Did this 6 times. Then linked the fuel output of four refineries to a bank of 12 generators. This allows me to trouble shoot each section individually.

While the power plant as a whole still runs

[queen slate]

That’s a good idea

[zenith sage]

I do need to go more into segmentalization, but I really wish blueprint designer mk3 unlocked earlier...

[ornate saffron]

This allows each pipenetwork to fill quicker too.

The obvious downside is if you make a mistake in your blueprint. For example. A refinery a water packager and a fuel unpacker where together. I accidently set the fuel unpacker to packer

[ornate saffron]

Mark 2 does a good job early though.

Although sometimes you need to think vertically

[zenith sage]

It's amazing for everything but refineries in my experience 😅

[ornate saffron]

Refineries are just the tallest thing with a awkward width lol

32m tall

[queen slate]

Can’t you do zooping not just in a 2x1 3x1 etc I thought I saw someone do a 4x6 for foundations

[ornate saffron]

Thats the unlimited zoop mod

[reef basin]

most likely mod or blueprint

[ornate saffron]

I make 5x5 bps of foundations for quick placement

[queen slate]

Aw man oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I need to remap my hot bars some of them I never use

I have a coal generator setup as hotbar 2 😭

[ornate saffron]

2 is always architecture and 10 is piping for me

Hotbar 1 is always

Lift, power, belt, merger, foundation and the remaining 5 are flexible slots.

[queen slate]

I think mine is belt cable powerline foundation lift assembler splitter merger industrial storage big power lines

[ornate saffron]

I abuse holding e for quick swap

[lofty compass]

I might build something there, it’s just at the lowest build able space (you can be without taking damage) there’s lots of fog, but I might build a path there in case I fall into the void when building a different part of the factory, so I can just parachute onto the platform.

[ornate saffron]

You can build everything under the map there if you wish. Make the ground level a train hub and lift the resources into the void

[exotic garnet]

hi why is the satisfactory intro screen in landing thing when you start showing black the hole time

[tawdry ridge]

I made 3 Industrial containers of mercer spheres rn by duplication glitch 👀 anyone wants to know how can dm me so they don’t patch it 🤣

[ornate saffron]

Sounds like a bug of some sort. Do the standard stuff. Restart your computer. Make sure windows and video card drivers are up to date

[exotic garnet]

ive notice it worked on the amd rx 5500 xt 4g i had but on this Nvidia gtx 1070 8g it doesn't show

[tawdry ridge]

And summerloops as well 3k+

[ornate saffron]

The 1070 has no support anymore and it is a UE 5 game

[ornate saffron]

A friend runs two 1080s sli and has frequent problems with unreal 5

[exotic garnet]

yea but graphics card thats weaker then 1070 it shows

[lofty compass]

Sure you could but they would need to be in interactible range unless you will start taking lots of damage, I will probally avoid building in the void as there’s plenty of room in the sky, but it would be a sweet spot for a hidden base or to hide if you ever play hide and seek on Sastifactory.

[ornate saffron]

Many options. Some unhinged lol

[ornate saffron]

You'll likely have to do some deep research to find a solution. Redit and mayhaps #off-topic-tech

[tame bobcat]

theres other hotbars? whaat

[ornate saffron]

To be fair I don't think either of those cards meet the minimum suggested requirements

[tame bobcat]

dude i’ve been constantly changing my hotbar

[exotic garnet]

but the game runs fine is just the intro screen dont show

[ornate saffron]

Yup, hold alt and scroll wheel on pc

[zenith sage]

Did they seriously put a sloop I was looking for for the last 10 minutes inside a damn uranium node...

[ornate saffron]

Haha! The one in the red forest? I have a death crate there

[zenith sage]

Yep

[lofty compass]

Are trains and drones worth building once you get them unlocked? In the past I just built convere belts that went across the map over Sky paths. One of my conveers in a past save took sulfur from the rocky part of the map to the grass fields, plus the best part of converes is that they don’t need any power.

[golden nexus]

yes

[zenith sage]

I also turned on the cat mode out of curiosity, it's so bad it's amazing hah

[ornate saffron]

Love it

[lofty compass]

I might try that.

[ornate saffron]

In my opinion they are a essential tool of logistics.

[unkempt blade]

I like vehicles because they make the world feel a lot more interesting but you could get by with never touching them if you don't enjoy them

[lofty compass]

Only reason I would use drones is on the top layers of my factory to avoid clipping, since I build my factory spaced out to avoid clipping so it looks nicer. Plus with trains you need to set up the rail so if it’s slower then a belt, might as well stick with a belt.

[golden nexus]

Umm, No, While it takes longer to run train track than a single belt, the track is capable of transporting the contents of dozens of belts

Train track capacity goes into the 100,000/min category of item transportation

[fickle locust]

Trains are in my opinion the most important logistics tool in the entire game. Not that you can't play without them, but they provide so much benefit

[lofty compass]

I agree, best part of the game is playing your way, either by building sky paths, having belts that clip though everything, you can make an absurdly wierd factory or efficient one, or what ever lets game it out with thier tornado belts.

[golden nexus]

Like to give you an idea, 4 stations with 4 platforms running ar 600/min each is 9,600/min....

[hollow hemlock]

They also go choo choo

[lofty compass]

I might try one then, but I would build them on foundations to avoid clipping, though if it doesn’t look good I probally wont run it, though I might look into it once I unlock it just need to complete phase 2 on my current save

[vale perch]

sombrsloooooooop

[fickle locust]

I like running my trains on the natural roads, but I always put the stations on foundations in flat areas and use ramps to bring the tracks up or down to the station

[ornate saffron]

Lots of good train rail videos on YouTube. It may spark some ideas for your own.

[ornate saffron]

Nature roads are great

[exotic garnet]

im gonna one day try quit nvidia fully bc they being horible

[ornate saffron]

Ive always been team bang for buck as im poor

[exotic garnet]

i might go full out amd

[stone moth]

Man late game factories are huge

[ornate saffron]

They can be

[ornate saffron]

You can beat the game with a tiny factory with minimal power. It just takes a lot of time

[fickle locust]

It's funny how the actual end-stage products only require really small factories

[ornate saffron]

I think quantum encoders are large bythemselfs lol

[fickle locust]

Yeah but you only need like one of them per thing you're making
Things like aluminum production or rubber/plastic production need these immense areas with 10s if not 100s of machines
But then I'm droning in supplies to build AI Expansion Servers, so the entire factory for them is three quantum encoders (one for superposition oscillators, one for neural box things, and one for the AI servers)

[ornate saffron]

Thats one way to look at it. I tend to make many of the supporting parts with the end part. So im not moving smart plating for example. Ill just make a line feeding the versatile frames.

[fickle locust]

I put my end stage stuff on top of a pillar so I could have a nice observation deck
As a result I have limited space and need to make all the input components elsewhere
But that works out nicely because those are the components that require lots of resources and many buildings. Copper Powder is what, a 200-1 ratio of input to output?

Oh, no, it's 6-1 and then you need 20 powder to 1 cube to make a pasta. But I'm flying in the pasta

[lofty compass]

I would go with natural roads but there’s lots of plants you can’t remove with chainsaw that the tracks would clip though unless you can have elevated tracks like you can with rails?

[drowsy kelp]

Tracks?

[lofty compass]

For trains

[drowsy kelp]

Oh railways

[ornate saffron]

There is no tracks only rails. Its a mono rail

[drowsy kelp]

If you meant railways when you said tracks what did you mean when you said rails

[lofty compass]

If it’s just a single rail then I think it would look better on foundations. Though I have to unlock it first.

[drowsy kelp]

Having two one-way rails side by side would be better than one two-way rail

That way all the trains are going the same direction on each rail

[lofty compass]

That would be good, plus it might help with getting around. Though I would put plenty of space between the rails.

[fickle locust]

My rail network is single direction the whole way across the map, all one giant loop with intermediate connections in various spots

[ornate saffron]

Shared a example in #screenshots for you.

Slightly raising your tracks can give you a clean feeling. The pedalstole can have modular blueprints to attach to it aswell. This allows you to make it look like you are pinned to a cliff and what not

You don't need to copy ppl mind you just want to Jumpstart the thought process

[eager harbor]

Guys I was placing pillars upwards for train track

But how do I straighten the path Idk how to tilt it correctly

[lofty compass]

It looked good, defiantly have to try it out, might the natural roads since the rail is bigger then I remember though as long as there’s no clipping.

[ornate saffron]

The biggest mushrooms and balloon plants are destructable now. This helps

As for clipping I have some situations I think are acceptable. Like pipes the clip through the ground. I see buried pipes irl all the time. There is houses with trees through them all over the world. So as long as a build around the concept of a tree going through im okay with it

[lofty compass]

I agree, if it’s flatforms or pipes clipping that’s fine as it’s more realistic so it doesn’t stand out, but rails and trains going though stuff looks kind of goofy especially going though other machinery.

[kindred crater]

Whats the best way to make 250,000 modular frames before the heat death of the universe? Some kind of modular factory that I can expand while it operates maybe?

[ornate saffron]

Go to satisfactory tools check all the alt recipies and tell it thats what you want. It'll tell you what the best recipes are.

[kindred crater]

Its gotta be the standard recipe

Just assume I have enough resources

[lofty compass]

If its after all the black holes disappearing then isn’t it at least a Gogol years? Like 1 with 100 zeros. You could probably make it by hand before then.

[ornate saffron]

My modular rail system last save had a concrete center and a frame structure around it. I cleared all foliage that would clip through the cement but left the clipping of the frame work. Giving it a overgrown feeling

[fickle locust]

A lot of the later game recipes let you bust out lots of modular frames
Once you've got steel screws and each constructor is outputting 260 screws/min, all of a sudden Bolted Frame goes hard

[kindred crater]

Preposterous! It must me mechanized

[ornate saffron]

Throughput is likely your bottle neck so you'll have to make building nodes

[kindred crater]

Youre probably right

Let me do some calculus rq

[exotic garnet]

why people like puting 666 in there name i hate that number

[ornate saffron]

The devil compelled it

[kindred crater]

Thank you. The numbers are complete. The factory is on paper, and I will be constructing hundreds of thousands of cubes to build a cube of cubes

[ornate saffron]

Like the Canadian indie film. Enjoy the toture

[kindred crater]

What Canadian indie film😭

[ornate saffron]

Cube

[tame bobcat]

i lowk just realised i kinda messed up making my trainline, i made it so its a dual lane (which is good) but i just connected it from one stop to the other without creating a railway network 💔

[kindred crater]

Tragically relatable

[ornate saffron]

Do you mean you didn't factor in bypasses?

[tame bobcat]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

Yeah, i did that on a different playthrough. I ended adding roundabouts along the train line before and after stations

Last playthrough I was really proud of my train network. I made a crocodile train station in a river. The train turn around were hidden and under it.

[shy moon]

what's the modding software for satisfactory?

[ornate saffron]

In #welcome there is a link to the modding discord.

Thats your best bet

[shy moon]

thx

[jovial beacon]

Does rubber or plastic have good point conversion in the awesome sink?

[fickle locust]

Plastic is worth more but I'd say not really unless you're at a low number of tickets

[unkempt blade]

at the point in the game you get it it's pretty ok for sinking mostly because you make so much of it

[ornate saffron]

Its fine. Not amazing or anything. But I like to over build my poly production to help with later expansion. I always need more plastic and rubber then I think

[jovial beacon]

I wanna say my production is around 270 pm on plastic and rubber combined

[fickle locust]

The higher-complexity items are more valuable than the sum of their parts, by a longshot

[ornate saffron]

For sure.

[tacit ocean]

is the bolted plates better than the normal reinforced plates? it seems like it uses more screws than 3 normal ones

[ornate saffron]

@jovial beacon for example turning that plastic into containers then filling them with fuel. Then sinking. I do this with the overflow after I have some for my jetpack

[zealous urchin]

it makes more per m for a machine but draws more resources

[bronze storm]

bwah

[white dawn]

More screws for 3x power/space savings on the RIP machines themselves. Just a much faster recipe

I agree that for most folks that tradeoff isn't likely to be worth it, but the recipe does pair well with Steel Screws

[ornate saffron]

Alt recipes are are tools. You use the one you think best fits the situation.

[golden nexus]

Like most recipies its a trade off, it uses more materials for the same number of plates but it uses less machines and power for the umber of plates

[fickle locust]

It's worse on a per-resource basis, but so much better in terms of saving space that I love it

[golden nexus]

However bolted plate doesn't work until at least mk3 belts without underclocking

[ornate saffron]

Works well with steel screws if you have the through put

[jovial beacon]

What abt the recipe after that where I combine it with compact coal, is that a negligible difference or is it worth the effort of automating overflow into the awesome sink?

[golden nexus]

It can work but its not a nice number when you involve steel screws.

So its normally not worth the steel

[ornate saffron]

I find it fine. But I also don't use these recipes until late game

[golden nexus]

Cast screw is 50 and bolted plate wants 250....

[ornate saffron]

Steel screws is 260

[golden nexus]

i must know of at least 15 different ways to layout rplate both normal / boled to avoid the screws messing with you / becoming a limit

[unkempt blade]

this guy screwmaxs!

[ornate saffron]

Its a choice for sure.

[golden nexus]

Technically is screw minimalization lol

[ornate saffron]

Some people prefer not to use screws at all.

[unkempt blade]

oh 🙁

[golden nexus]

as in minimumizing the consequances of them

[unkempt blade]

well I'm still proud of you for using screws

[ornate saffron]

I like getting screwed

[dim spoke]

Yoo my automation list is getting smaller and smaller

[golden nexus]

ahh you about to get to the stage of. Oh so I have to duplicated everything i just did

[unkempt blade]

what's your favorite thing you automated so far?

[tacit ocean]

thanks for the answers everyone exactly what i needed

[golden nexus]

if you do bolted screw, reverse the screw makers onto the assembler

[dim spoke]

only Sam fluctuators, Homing ammo and Ai limiters to automate anymore

[ornate saffron]

My list is currently heavy modular frames Ai limiter, hi speed connectors, circuit boards and computers

[tacit ocean]

? can you elaborate on that one?

[golden nexus]

@tacit ocean Would reocmmend you do asomething like #screenshots message

[dim spoke]

hmmm probs my motor/modular engine factory

cuz its semi ok looking

[golden nexus]

It removes the problems of excessive screws by consuming them immediatly when they are created. So you deal in ingots to the consutrcotrs rather than screws

[dim spoke]

and not too complicated

[dim spoke]

I just finished automating the circuit boards and computers

[unkempt blade]

yeah this is the right way to handle screws recipes and it works really well with blueprinting

[dim spoke]

everything to complete phase 3 is ready and automated

[tacit ocean]

ohh i see now just using a manifold for the screws

[golden nexus]

Another example of it really being used in anger, where you have a plate feed this side and ingots the far side and the output belts run over the top #screenshots message

^^ eg thats 75/min rplate in one room

[tacit ocean]

that's kind've what i have set up to do

[dim spoke]

I know people would cry seeing my factories, they should work well but they have belts going thru each other here and there

[unkempt blade]

Everyone has to learn the organization lessons when they start. If it creates items it's a good factory 😄

[golden nexus]

Theres many approaches and no silver bullet, what works for one recipie fails in another 🙂

one of the interesting things you can alter is cluster the 5 constructors on the floor above and drop it into the assembler. For even less logesitcs / spagetti and also making it fit in a blueprinter

[tacit ocean]

but i have my screws being imported further away and now i am consolidating my stage one production so everything is in one spot (#screenshots message, screenshot 5)

[fickle locust]

Lol I've built this before

[tacit ocean]

its just a huge line of assemblers trying to make it look better and organized

[golden nexus]

you struggle with early game concrete?

[fickle locust]

Also if you're in phase 1, I would not do bolted because you don't have the belt speed to handle it. The use case is for later once you're trying to make massive quantities and have faster belts

[golden nexus]

and yeah importing screws like that immeidatly introduces the belt limit which is why people hate screws

[unkempt blade]

I like that you used a non-default color template 🙂

[golden nexus]

this also means your production is immediatly capped as well

[tacit ocean]

actually no i just set up a concrete with like 5 storage container stack and grab when needed

[tacit ocean]

i set everything to black and red 13 #700000

[unkempt blade]

as far as areas you might simplify things I think the easiest one would be cutting out some of that storage sitting between steps unless I'm missing why you have it there

a couple of those towers looked like they might just be full of ore and there's really no reason functionally to be storing that much

[golden nexus]

Bolted plate done at insane levels 😛 #screenshots message

[tacit ocean]

its just redundancy so i can grab the needed resource myself (like reinforced plates or steel beams)

[jagged nymph]

i wanna start up a new save but early game is hell 😔

[golden nexus]

Its not if you approach it differently

[unkempt blade]

how far along is your current save?

[jagged nymph]

i was running a server with like 3 people and they got to like tier 7 while i was off and i dont know whats happening and where stuff is and how its setup

[golden nexus]

thats proof early game is easy 😛

[jagged nymph]

theres just like a shit ton of machines packed into a cube at spawn

[unkempt blade]

ahh ok, I was going to suggest you might just build in a different area and pretend it's new until you run into your old stuff

but that might be trickier if they progressed a lot

[golden nexus]

a good team with take less than 24 hours to get to like T7-8

[jagged nymph]

yeah ill just power through the early game

im thinkin a dune desert spawn

[zealous urchin]

and then there is option to start the game at certain tier

[jagged nymph]

maybe northern forest

[fickle locust]

Every time I restart the early game gets easier because I know what I'm doing and aiming for

[golden nexus]

just deconstruct hard disks sites for parts before starting anything

[unkempt blade]

not sure how you all like to communicate as a team but when I play in groups we usually have a discord channel for it and post updates when we start/finish projects so people are at least aware of them

[jagged nymph]

true that helps

[golden nexus]

You can get though early game with zero crafting and a little bit of chainsaw action

if you know the game well you can raid for all the parts, set everything up and then introduce power

[unkempt blade]

deconstructing crash sites has made the first few tiers much faster than it used to be

[golden nexus]

yeah for expirenced players who know 🙂 Its quite subtle way to balance things lmao

[jagged nymph]

yeah ill do that

[golden nexus]

the key thing to know is you need 15 constructors 😛

[ebon cobalt]

surely screws cant be that big of a de- im sorry 100 per minute?!?!

[unkempt blade]

yeah I feel like it helped me a bit with T2 but where I really noticed the difference was how much quicker I was able to scale up coal and steel in T3

[golden nexus]

and this #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

bolted plate wants 250/min 😛

[unkempt blade]

I just had way more of the materials for all the buildings much quicker than I normally would have

[jagged nymph]

yeah 1.0 adding an input to biofuel burners is possibly one of the best changes theyve made

hmmmm which spawn to do....

[ebon cobalt]

...... why...

[jagged nymph]

definitely not grassy fields

ill do dune desert

[fickle locust]

Screws get way easier to do once you have more recipes!

[ebon cobalt]

i know someone who used an alt recipe that wanted like 3.725 of something just to avoid screws (it was a heavy modular frame recipe)

[golden nexus]

To intordce you to belt limits so you need to work around them.... we were discussing this actually. Just flip the construcotrs around and make it part of the assembler as a larger "block" and feed ingots to the other end

[ebon cobalt]

screws aint that bad to make its the fact my belts cant handle it

[tired cypress]

I wish Mk6 belts unlocked sooner. Feels like you're stuck with Mk5 for 80% of the game. They also look really cool (and very different from the others so it's easy to spot where you've missed one)

[golden nexus]

Yeah, But to avoid being screwed you just do something like this #screenshots message

[ebon cobalt]

cast screws my beloved

[tired cypress]

Cast screw is S-tier early game recipe

[golden nexus]

Like this has 12,000/min screws in it 😛 #screenshots message

[ebon cobalt]

also im setting up a main area for dimensional depot uploading cus i cant be bothered to go hunting for mercer spheres :3 never rushed something harder in a game after j played on my freinds phase 3 save where my inventory was always empty apart from tools :3

anyone else having any issues with pc on controller "place shortcut" menu for building being really low framerate?
(im on steam deck which runs the pc version)

[hot burrow]

Isreal broke my factory

[scarlet hamlet]

anyone down to play satisfactory right now i need help

[hot burrow]

Can I run it on phone

[scarlet hamlet]

not unless you cloud game it from pc somehow

not worth it \

[fluid rapids]

I know why the blueprint i downloaded wasnt workong. Game was updated. Still didn't work.. turns out they were working. I just didn't realize it took a few minutes fully load on the screen. I was deleting them too quick.

One took over 5 mins before it started to build

[scarlet hamlet]

yall dm me if you want to join my world im new i think im at tier 5 need some help brain is hurting

[golden nexus]

goto #1201555265942724758

[fluid rapids]

How do people.make huge factories . My game crashes when ever I put more than 500 in one area 🙁

[peak wasp]

Are the resource spots limited or they unlimited

[jagged nymph]

unlimited

the only limited things in the game are things you have to gather by hand (power slugs, mercer spheres, somersloops)

i hate when a factory building game makes resource nodes limited, especially when it lasts a long time cause its like "hey remember in 10 hours to come back here and replace the miner on another node"

[bitter comet]

I play on Epic, son plays on steam...we were always able to join games simply with a session ID... tried last night after some time away from the game and cannot join games at all... has something changed ?

[golden nexus]

you in same house?

like on same net connection

[covert quarry]

how do you put a permanent marker on the map?

[peak wasp]

So when my friend flushed a stack of them down the toilet to hear the funny things the AI had to say I should probably reset my game

[jagged nymph]

open the map, drag the plus icon in the bottom of the screen slightly right of the middle onto your desired location, then you can click on it and choose how the icon looks, what range you can see it, etc

[jagged nymph]

a stack of what

also please dont rely on ai for your information

[peak wasp]

The purple spheres

[peak wasp]

Also why

[jagged nymph]

oh wait im slow

[covert quarry]

thanks 🙂

[jagged nymph]

wait

[golden nexus]

perhaps ada better? 🙂

[jagged nymph]

do you mean you asked ai like chatgpt about it or you mean he wanted to hear what the ingame ada had to say

[peak wasp]

Yes her The snarky sarcastic pain in my ass

[jagged nymph]

ok then ignore me lol

but yeah losing the mercer spheres will hinder your gameplay

how far through the game are you

[peak wasp]

I haven't left the grassy area yet so I think I'm okay I think it was only two

Spheres that he flushed

[jagged nymph]

oh only 2

youre fine then

[zenith sage]

Modeler doesn't seem to like the production plan from tools...

[scenic mirage]

is nuclear waste a 50, 100, 200, or 500 stack?

[fickle locust]

500

[hot burrow]

Screws

[hot burrow]

500 industrial cargo

[zealous urchin]

well they different

[rustic vigil]

is there a way to find machinery with summersloops? im missing some

[vale totem]

anny one else have problems with using blueprints in MP and it crashes (not host)?

[feral jay]

Not in the base game afaik, Ive used SCIM for that, it has a buildings list that can help you find slooped machines

[white dawn]

Quickest in-game way is to switch to dismantle mode and hover over the buildings. Shows you what you'd get back if you dismantled, which will include any sloops in there

In the future, one thing that's helpful is to decide on a custom Customizer option for sloop'd buildings and be sure to stick for that. (Or, of course, just keeping a list)

[feral jay]

Would be nice if the indicator light turned purple, just like it turns white for overclocked machines

[white dawn]

Yeah

You do get purple smoke and extra sound effects, but they're not really noticeable at a distance

[feral jay]

I wonder if that's a suggestion already

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/684eb9e86b7c57319638b395

[zenith sage]

I meant that even if I remake the same way, it "calculates" forever

[bitter comet]

yes and yes. Even tried IP connection and it just times out

[golden nexus]

You take the local lan ip? cause thats the one to use, most routers won't support nat coming back inside...

[bitter comet]

Ill have to take a look later, but why wouldnt session ID work all of a sudden?

[golden nexus]

Not sure. There could be a number of reasons

[abstract heron]

I am hoping there is a stream tmr

Dev stream that is

[covert quarry]

will you need quartz just for mam research or are there other purposes to it?

[eager harbor]

I love love man

Love is so lovely

[ornate saffron]

Lots of uses including all the stuff you unlock in the mam

[covert quarry]

soo initially build a factory connected to other machines?

thx

[ornate saffron]

I make little factories all over the map.

[covert quarry]

well i don't need to do so just yet 🙂

[spiral fulcrum]

I've found strange issue related to crash sites. For some reason, if I got too far from the site, it still renders for me, despite the fact, that I've dismanlteled every single part of it. If I came closer, it will disappear. A little bit annoying, when you saw the site from afar on a mountain, you climb it just to figure out - there is nothing there

Any ways to FICSIT? (got it? a joke - fix it = ficsit)

[white dawn]

Does it go away if you reload the save?

Might just be something stuck in a LOD cache or something

(Though now that I say that, I seem to remember someone else mentioning something similar awhile ago)

[feral jay]

Still happens to me too

Any crash site, if I'm far enough away, it still renders

[spiral fulcrum]

Nope, it doesn't go away. Still there

(Fun fact. I just rechecked that kind of site, got away from it, turned around - it was there again)

[quick barn]

Been a thing ever since they allowed dismantling of the crash sites.
Its an unreal engine oddity they haven't sussed out yet.

I still put signs down visible from far away when a crash site has duped me more than once.

[feral jay]

I'm looking at one right now, I cleared and dismantled it months ago

[spiral fulcrum]

Oh, okay. Thank you for the info

I guess, I'll just try to figure out which one I've cleared with signs

[golden nexus]

Well its not really its an LOD thing, The game when close to things loads the stuff into memory, when far away it unloads it so it renders 2 states. A static render at distance and a actual close up render when your around it. The issue being that you can't load all the state of all the items for all the things at greater distances you need to cull them by distance

Its done for performance

[quick barn]

Its an LOD quirk with the engine, yes.

I have a machine that eats the game for lunch. View distance and everything ultra cranked. Doesnt skip a beat.

Crash sites still pop out in the same way.

[feral jay]

The same kind of thing happens here and there with gas clouds to me

[golden nexus]

You see this in multiplayer more with animals, slugs, spheres, breakables as a optimization for network performance / state replication as well

[quick barn]

They should have never bothered allowing dismantling as it didnt solve anything - it just made the crash site sussing worse.

[white dawn]

Eh, could be a thing they'll fix up for v1.2, we'll see. :)

[golden nexus]

Its extremly useful being able to get parts in the early game from the sites

[quick barn]

None of the dismanteling gives fun parts.

[golden nexus]

Its not meant to....

[quick barn]

Its only the strewn resources from the site that become useful.

[golden nexus]

No

[quick barn]

LOL yeah I know - makes my point.

[white dawn]

Still, allows for some easier factory-building on sites which had previously had non-dismantleable sites.

[quick barn]

If you are getting genuine use out of the crash site dismantling resources, you've got other issues.

[white dawn]

Not that raising your "ground floor" by a dozen meters or so was a huge deal, but eh?

[feral jay]

Yeah if the actual dismantling gave you userful stuff it would matter, but it's all just screws and plates and rods and shit, the good stuff is scattered around the site

[fluid crow]

only seeing it from a limited distance might be less immersion breaking

[spiral fulcrum]

I must say - dismantling is a good thing, that allows to remove the site that is near you, where you want to build

[golden nexus]

If your a new player you don't know about crash sites, when your an expirenced player you do, so the crash sites on a new playthough are extremly useful to an epxirenced player in the very early game basically permitting them to skip crafting at all

[quick barn]

I should be able to say "never show me ones that dont exist" and accept that perf hit.

[white dawn]

The only thing I find slightly disappointing about it is that there's now almost certainly fewer people making little "crash site museums" in their factories now. Ah well!

[golden nexus]

Try looking at it from a perspective of a game designer, not as a 2000 hour player

[quick barn]

I did - thats why I said they should have never shipped it in this state. It added zero value.

[golden nexus]

Its there so exp players can skip hand crafting

[white dawn]

Zero value to you, perhaps. Plenty of folks have been asking for it for years, though

[feral jay]

Reallt of all my complaints, the crash site LOD issue is pretty low on the list

I can live with it

[quick barn]

Including me - and yet in this implementation it does nothing but cause confusion.

[white dawn]

That there's a LOD-ish bug still in the game, related to dismantling them, is besides the point of the feature itself. That's something that might eventually get addressed

[golden nexus]

Yup, So the fact exp players can skip hand crafting items for the initial build makes the early game play completly differently.

[quick barn]

It was to help clean things up when no longer needed, and they still trick players until they go check

pointless feature until its fixed.

[white dawn]

What you're annoyed by is a bug, not the fact that they allowed dismantling

[lime kraken]

I have an oil well that produces 600 oil.
There are 10 refineries connected to it, each converting 60 oil into 40 fuel.
The outputs of all refineries are connected to each other and to 20 generators, each requiring 20 fuel.
Calculation:
600 oil / 10 refineries = 60 oil per refinery → 100%
40 fuel × 10 refineries = 400 fuel
400 fuel / 20 generators = 20 fuel per generator → 100%
Nevertheless, it does not function correctly:
One refinery or one generator is always without oil or fuel.
The by-products are disposed of.

whats the issue?

[white dawn]

Open a #1038092680493801533 thread with photos and such. Pictures are almost always necessary to diagnose piping issues

[quick barn]

No - im annoyed a designer wanted to do the thing, and then the thing didn't do the thing it was intended to do, which was to help clean up crash sites.

[golden nexus]

We get that there is a bug with it, but attempting to argue its a pointless feature is just coming from a source of pure ignorance on your part tbh

[white dawn]

Make sure to include overhead shots (photo mode is useful for that)

[green fiber]

likely the classic mk 2 issue but yea, go make a #1038092680493801533 post

[feral jay]

I mean I get why some people find it really annoying, the entire purpose of dismantling crash sites is so you don't see them in the distance and trek over to then find them already pillaged, and this LOD bug really reduces the usefuless of dismantling them

[white dawn]

Well, sucks to be you, I guess. :)

[quick barn]

Trying to game-splain to a former game dev and player how I'm wrong in my assertion is the real travesty here.

[golden nexus]

Its like if you don't like it, don't deconstruct them... nobody is making you...

[feral jay]

But meh, not a nasty bug imo

[golden nexus]

Then you would understand that its not a show stopping or gating bug immeidatly if you are a dev and thus the product ships

[white dawn]

The problem is you're phrasing your assertion as fact ("It added zero value")

I and others appreciate the ability to clean up sites regardless of this LOD bug

[quick barn]

You don't add features to a complex system that provide a net negative value to the player.

[white dawn]

Maybe you don't find value in it -- c'est la vie! But your opinion doesn't == fact.

[golden nexus]

Yup, Cause they permit you to build in the area once the site is removed is a 2nd important feature it adds

[golden nexus]

But here you have multiple people its adding positive value...

[green fiber]

tbh i never noticed the LOD issue so it only added value to me
THeres a bunch of stuff that kinda breaks with LOD

[fluid crow]

maybe you not quite getting the max 600 through the pipe

[zenith sage]

Meanwhile I can't imagine not being able to dismantle crash sites, couldn't care less about resources, but it's awesome just to make them vanish after collecting everything

[green fiber]

i dont even know how far away you have to be for their "ghost" to show up again

[white dawn]

(Besides which: even if that LODish bug bothers you that much, it's still that bug that's the problem, not the fact that they allowed them to be dismantled in the first place.)

[golden nexus]

the game as a whole actually has a very low bug count / extremly stable and has been consistantly like this though early access

[rich flint]

there is no way to craft mercer sphere right?

[obsidian quail]

whaaaaat, you can dismantle crash sites?!

[white dawn]

"In some configurations, pipe manifolds can have trouble reaching 600/min throughput. Therefore, adding pipes to the game was a mistake."

[zenith sage]

Nope

[green fiber]

If you ask the right people even without that issue pipes were a mistake

[fluid crow]

just set it at 595 or something and call it a day

[rich flint]

should i research everything for dimensional depot?

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, I knew I was playing with fire with that one. :D

[green fiber]

Then again - there is a possible fix.
Devs just have to consider if thats the one they wanna go with

[white dawn]

ez fix: Huge foundation box you blueprint and place around the dismantled crash site so that the LOD bug doesn't appear!

[golden nexus]

or just don't deconstruct them and assume the feature was never added

[green fiber]

well if you do build in the place over where the crash site was then you can indeed not see the LOD

[white dawn]

Then it just becomes a matter of distinguishing the crash site models from your giant concrete box. :D

(Imagine I just created a Mikael "no/yes" meme with an empty field on "no" and a big ol' concrete box on "yes." Hilarious.)

[golden nexus]

But the lack of understanding of the early game / design is showing in the argument here, it makes the difference between being able to create a biomass burner or not being able to deconstruct the first site prior to building everything to be able to remove the hard drive... this means the player doesn't have to return twice ot the same place etc..

[zenith sage]

I just upgrade them as I feel the need for more space/faster upload. I did 2 upgrades recently, cause 1 blueprint takes a third of my concrete depo...

[fluid crow]

after the first few unlocks can be nicer using some of the spheres for containers for a while

[zenith sage]

Yeah, I always try to keep at least 10

[clear tartan]

my power grid is somehow stable on my 16 coal gens even though the max consumption is wayy higher

[fluid crow]

max consumption doesn't matter until everything turns on at once

[clear tartan]

true

[white dawn]

Yeah, technically if you're willing to plan for factories being idle, you can keep Max Consumption pretty well above your production

Kind of living on the edge if your consumption can vary based on what you're taking out of storage or whatever, though. :D

[bleak vortex]

Any Pipe Doctors willing to help out?
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1460376090303533189

[toxic zenith]

Hmm. I can't seem to get the Heavy Encased Frame alternate recipe, and I'm unable to scan new HDDs because no new recipes are available. The wiki says it just requires Tier 6 - Industrial Manufacturing (and I have been offered Heavy Flexible Frame, which requires the same.)

[placid stirrup]

Is it possible you already took it on accident or without remembering?

[short root]

Save the game, reload it, try to scan the HDD again, there happend to be a bug that prevented scanning if only one recipe remains to scan.

[toxic zenith]

Nope. The base HMF is the only one listed.

[toxic zenith]

This has been ongoing across multiple days of playing the game. I've definitely had HDDs only offer one recipe (some of those are still in my list unchosen). Unless I've just gotten that unlucky to get hit with that bug multiple times.

[placid stirrup]

If it is indeed the last available alt, you can choose one in your library and that will free up the other + the new one, which should be the final 2 options for a new HDD

[short root]

I don't know exactly what triggers this bug, but I had it myself once, that there was one left but I couldn't scan despite having others with one recipe open. Saving, reloading worked when the first thing I did was scanning the HDD, afaik.

Or you try what Tsunami said.

[toxic zenith]

Okay, never mind. It's a display error and it literally wasn't showing in the search results the first three times I typed "modular" .

[short root]

I... hadn't see this coming.

[placid stirrup]

Sometimes the game has a case of the Mondays too

[short root]

I confirm this statement!

And glad you got it, too.

[toxic zenith]

Yeah, something is really screwy with the search in the list. I can repeatedly get it to only show me one of the recipes. I can also sometimes get it to show me every available recipe, even those that don't match the search.

[strong fiber]

For me monday is the best day to play the game

All other days i dont feel like playing

[worthy grotto]

steel rotor good?

[placid stirrup]

Every alt can be argued as situationally good

I have used steel rotor a number of times personally

[toxic zenith]

I've even recently heard a good argument for the biocoal/charcoal alternates.

[worthy grotto]

fuck it rescaned it and got evem worse shit

[golden nexus]

steel rotor is great btw. makes motor really easy 😛

[toxic zenith]

(Namely: If you have a dump storage container that processes what you throw in it, you likely get enough biomass where that alone can satisfy the coal requirements for filters)

[worthy grotto]

wish you came few seconds early here

[toxic zenith]

It's also required if you want to remove screws from your production chain.

[white dawn]

As Tsunami said, all alt recipes are at least situationally good. And there are more drives on the map than you can use, anyway, so if you keep up with exploration you'll get all alt recipes eventually anyway. :)

[placid stirrup]

I said I've used it more than once, not sure why you rescanned

[strong fiber]

Steel rotor is best in motor setups

[obsidian quail]

once i realized that I was idling and waiting rather than exploring and I started to explore... the game changed so much for me. it's so much more fun to set up a manufacturing line and then just head off into the wilderness on a truck or buggy lol

[strong fiber]

Allowing motors to be made from wire and steel pipe

[true mulch]

Don't claim unwanted recipes, the unclaimed drive will block the recipes from appearing in newly scanned ones

[true mulch]

Past the very early game, you shouldn't ever need to be waiting for anything, either explore or build

[toxic zenith]

I'd even argue don't claim wanted recipes until you're ready to build them (unless you need both halves and want the unchosen one to appear in another HDD scan)

[white dawn]

(As an addendum to that: I'd personally only recommend that if you know for sure that you've got two recipes that you explicitly don't want. If you don't have opinions about the recipes, IMO just flip a coin and redeem one at random. :)

[strong fiber]

hey sometimes we like to be lazy bums

[white dawn]

Yeah, it can be tough to get into the exploration mindset for sure! Thankfully there's a lot of rewarding things out there for the explorer. :)

[tame bobcat]

do i study... or do i finish building turbofuel power generators

[worthy grotto]

ik that much

[tame bobcat]

🤔

[placid stirrup]

Now you're embracing the Ficsit spirit! Nice ferret, btw.

I'm always a proponent of adding geothermal to excursions - free power and it expands your power grid in case you end up building a factory nearby later on.

[obsidian quail]

once i got the bolt gun and the bigger stun wand, and roller blades thing... it was so much more fun to explore too

[white dawn]

Personally I dislike that approach quite a bit. A recipe locked away in my MAM may as well not exist when I'm at build-time. I'd much rather just have more recipes available right on the machines while building. :)

[obsidian quail]

geothermal is up and coming for me, but absolutely agree

[true mulch]

That's fine, but there are people who find themselves waiting or running the game overnight to get enough resources

[white dawn]

Pretty much the only time I ever reserve drives in the library is if I'm actively looking for one specific recipe (and then I do mass-redemptions once I've got it), or if I do end up with the "lucky" biocoal/charcoal roll. :D (I will agree that even biocoal/charcoal can have its uses, but those are basically the two that I know I'll personally never actually use)

[true mulch]

If you can get yourself to focus on studying, then study

[obsidian quail]

I just run a private dockered server... which falls into the same category as leaving it on. I really like having a lot of extra stuff, ok? 🤣

[placid stirrup]

Sweet! Many people dismiss it as a waste of time, but it's a priority for my runs

[reef basin]

I'd argue the opposite - unless you're very specifically looking for something, claimed drive is always better than unclaimed drive

[tame bobcat]

the real smart idea is get the studying over and done with and then just get on satisfactory

[obsidian quail]

I just like having MOAR POWAH

[true mulch]

In the case of rerolled + both recipes are unwanted

Why'd I ever claim that

[unkempt blade]

just have your computer text-to-speech your notes/book at you while you're building factories

[true mulch]

Sounds like you can focus, so do that

[reef basin]

depends what is "unwanted"
if it's "I know for sure that I will never ever use any of these two recipes even if they paid me", then sure
but if it's "idk these are meh", then just pick one, you may find it useful later and if you have it, you have more incentive to at least try to use it (and can be sometimes surprised what the recipe can do)

[true mulch]

I know my alts

[reef basin]

you do, but most people don't

[worthy grotto]

another disk gave me steel rotor again DDDDDD:

[true mulch]

But I'd argue it applies in both cases

[unkempt blade]

just flip a coin to decide

[reef basin]

since most people looking for "what to pick" advice are new players, I'd argue those should be pushed towards experimentation with the recipes rather than not using any just because they don't like them on first look

[unkempt blade]

I mean it's no cast crews but it's still a pretty great recipe

[reef basin]

it's still a pretty expensive recipe 🙂

[topaz maple]

i lost like 20hours of progress due to saves syncing incorrectly accross pc's, how can i use commands to speed the process back up to where i was originally? or recover the original one

[true mulch]

You can enable advanced game settings and give yourself resources. Note that it'll disable achievements

[reef basin]

personally I wouldn't trust the cloud storage and pass the file manually and/or back it up for cases like this. Well, backing up saves is a good habit to have anyway

[green fiber]

i disabled cloud for that very reason

[topaz maple]

how do i do that

[true mulch]

There's a checkbox before you load the game in the load game menu

[topaz maple]

its just auto unchecking when i load the game

[strong fiber]

i was afking waiting for time crystals to build only because the train takes a long time to get there and i only make 30/min at my main area i have another area making 120 but its only temporary because i need the coal to make steel for nuclear power plant

[short root]

Did it also destroy your backup savegame folder? I mean the default one that exists in the game.

[topaz maple]

i didnt know there was one

[short root]

AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames_backup

Under your user account.

[sharp shore]

hi

[tranquil zinc]

do trains act like manifolds? Like if a good is being shipped from A to both B and C, but B and C have different consumption rates, will these eventually balance out?

[reef basin]

yes

[unkempt blade]

this is also why the cartifold is a viable distribution system just with a longer saturation time than a manifold

[topaz maple]

nope its not in there at all

[tranquil zinc]

thanks, that means I do not have to worry and calculate the ratio split between them. I just have to make sure to produce excess and it will balance out right?

[short root]

Sad to hear, sorry... I have that folder and it contains older versions of my saves.

[topaz maple]

it only containes like 3 of my saves from 2020

[coarse heart]

Yo! What can I do with heavy oil residue?

[short root]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Save_files#Automatic_backup
"When a save file is saved by overwriting another, the game creates a backup of the previous save file. This doesn't happen when an autosave occurs, unless you manually overwrite it."

Seems like it only works when you save manually. But I do this every time before I close the game, so it should be there.

[worthy grotto]

im making 270 steel how should i divide to make equal amount of pipe and beam

[golden nexus]

I tend to use solid steel ingot, if the game has a single steel factory (it normally has 2). Then i would divide one bank to tbe pipe and the other bank to be beam. It it has 2 steel factories one is pipe the other is for beam

[worthy grotto]

im in early game dont have allat recipes

[topaz maple]

i went in FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames but there is no \savegamesbacup there

[golden nexus]

I build the foundries facing away from each other like this #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

yeah, you can switch to solid steel later if you find it

[short root]

It's not in SaveGames but a level above. In the "Saved" folder above. Next to the SaveGames folder.

[unkempt blade]

I usually do more beams than pipes for the first go and then rebalance it sometime in T4 when I start doing more stuff using those items

mk3 conveyors eat up a ton of beams when you're still upgrading factories

[short root]

Damn I wanted mk3 pipes but you corrected them out of existence.

[topaz maple]

nope its not in there

[unkempt blade]

we do need mk3 pipes but sadly I made a type 🙁

[short root]

I am indeed very sad.

[short root]

Strange and sorry to hear. I have no idea why you don't have this folder.

[topaz maple]

is it a steam thing, im running epic

[short root]

I am also running Epic. And the folder is there and contains copies for months back every time I saved manually.

[topaz maple]

yeah its just not there

[short root]

Strangely the path in the Wiki is not the path that I have.

for me it is beside the SaveGames folder not within it

[topaz maple]

it has a folder SaveGames_backup but it only has older saves

[short root]

But you did save manually?

[topaz maple]

yes

[short root]

Strange. Because the cloud sync should only work within the ID-folder inside the SaveGames folder.

And the Logs folder contains a recent log file with a current date? Not that you are somehow in a different FactoryGame\Saved folder?

[topaz maple]

yep logs is from earlier today

[short root]

I have no idea why the backups don't worked for you, maybe an ingame setting in the options menu. Sorry that you lost progress. I hope you want to make new one.

[reef basin]

given people can't even build mk2 pipes well, I doubt mk3s would be reasonable

(not to mention that devs already had issues with making mk2s work in the engine)

[short root]

I know, I was joking and dreaming. But you have a point.

[topaz maple]

i think i figured out how, i just need to get on the other pc and use recovery software to find the old file save in that pc and then send it over to the new one

[short root]

Good luck!

[topaz maple]

welp aslong as i dont need to get that damned spider out it aint going to be to hard

[fickle locust]

If you just unlocked it, turn it into petroleum coke
If you're further in the game, diluted fuel

[coarse heart]

Thanks

[nocturne orbit]

Text on snipped messages is supposed to be fried beyond readability? #satisfactory-memes message

[scenic mirage]

is it possible to fit 2 particle accelerators in a mk3 blueprint designer

i cant get it to actually fit right

[dense violet]

they are huge, seems unlikely

just make a bp with one and plop it down twice

[scenic mirage]

bummer

[dense violet]

oh nooo... 2 clicks instead of 1.... >.>

[scenic mirage]

ive used up many many clicks in my nuclear factory alr 🙄

[green fiber]

i managed to make them fit

[scenic mirage]

how lol

[green fiber]

you just turn them 180°

their outputs must face away from each other

[scenic mirage]

ah interesting

imma just do the 1

[green fiber]

granted it is its own science

but you can even squeeze in 2 converters at the very top

[hard stump]

So my train blueprint I posted in #screenshots for some reason often it does not properly do it. Where the fence is slightly off the foundation iv even connected it to a blueprint that’s fine as you can see in the pic. Even went and double checked the blueprint itself. Anyone have help advice or can explain what’s going on?

[ornate saffron]

leave it placed and restart the game

this sometimes fixes it

[hard stump]

Ok so it’s a somewhat known thing. Kinda good to know. Iv redone this blueprint many times thinking I’m stupid and crazy.
I will say tho I noticed it last night quit and same issue. When I got on today

[ornate saffron]

i dont know about known, but a simialar thing happened when placing a refinery/packager BP

when in doubt i restart my pc

[wicked nacelle]

Restart pc is unlikely to fix game logic issues. Restarting game is often good though

I mean beyond restarting computer forces game restart

[ornate saffron]

true but no harm in it lol

hence why i suggested restarting the game not pc

[wicked nacelle]

Just “ productivity” 🙂

[vague ruin]

is it easier to transport water over a decnetly long distance or converyors over a decently long distance?

im trying to figure out if i should pipe water from a lake to the coal power plant or coveryor coal to the lake

[reef basin]

always move solids to fluids

[fluid crow]

maybe if it's level to down hill

[cinder jay]

can i do tripple screens?

[tall lantern]

conveyors

ah so that's the "discord didn't scroll" thing people are talking about

[ornate saffron]

thats been a pain in the arse for 8 months or so for me

[oak nymph]

Moving fluid is doable just put pump if required

[tall lantern]

still easier to run conveyors though

[placid stirrup]

Lmk how your 2km pipeline works for ya

[oak nymph]

Its more like 300m

[tame bobcat]

this.. this is pretty smart

[fluid crow]

my oil pipe halfway across the map works great but it's only level or downhill and has no pumps

[unkempt blade]

we'd have to see how your grades look before we decide if it was smart

[dense violet]

pumps are just head lift - it's mostly managing changes in headlift the whole way and having snakey pipes aren't great for new players who don't know how to manage them

[placid stirrup]

So 300m is not very far at all. Greeny is talking about lines where solid resources are like 1.5km+ away from fluids

[reef basin]

I'm talking about any distance

[dense violet]

yeah i'd move the solid to liquids at 300m.

or plan a better location

[mortal ginkgo]

make your coal plant near water. most coal are near water anyways

[placid stirrup]

Naturally, and so would I. The longer the pipeline the more room for issues though

[dense violet]

too many people ignore proper ocation planning when they decide on factories

[reef basin]

yeah, why is "how to move resources for 2km" even a question if you can just plan factory nearer 😄

[scenic mirage]

planning? wdym

[dense violet]

I mean there are situations when the volume of items you want to make , no matter the recipes you use, can't be done in one spot and you do have to import some things long distance

but you can manage that fairly easily

[unkempt blade]

It's when you decide how much spaghetti to pile up before you start piling. Nerd stuff basically

[placid stirrup]

omg lmao rofl so funny

It's that thing experienced players do

[eager harbor]

I got gold cart

[scenic mirage]

🙏 starting up my nuclear for the first time, lets hope it doesnt just go to sh*t

[placid stirrup]

Waste storage or processing?

[scenic mirage]

processing uranium to plutonium then sink\

[hazy void]

is there a way to calculate throughput with trains

[vague ruin]

for basic materials whats a good split for iron between making rods and plates?

[fast ruin]

do you need to make screws with rods?

[vague ruin]

and same for wires and sheets

[vague ruin]

id assume so ye for reinforced iron plates

[reef basin]

better to not start from ores, but instead work backwards from final product

[white dawn]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput <- Though you need the round-trip time to get a truly accurate number, and if you've already got the route set up to get that timing, you might as well just kind of eyeball it and then adjust to suit, IMO. :)

[reef basin]

don't "split iron", but rather make the amount of iron you need for your next project

[fast ruin]

if yes i'd say 2/3 rod for 1/3 plates, as for sheets i'd say cable are more important, also wire

[white dawn]

I basically never bother actually calculating out train throughput issues. (Granted, I tend to have a pretty good idea about how many cars might be required, given experience, but still)

[hazy void]

ok thanks

[grizzled lotus]

I've seen people using hoverpacks but had a remote in both hands. how do i do that?

[fast ruin]

H

empty hands

[prime magnet]

I'm beating satisfactory with zero verticality, thoughts?

[vague ruin]

what are good final products to focus on for tier 3/4?

[placid stirrup]

Unsatisfying

[prime magnet]

So satisfying

[reef basin]

whatever you need to produce for storage

[dense violet]

you can generally aim for 1 belt per platform fairly easily - and if that isn't enough when you calculate the round trip, split it to two platforms or have a 2nd train doing the rounds

[prime magnet]

Modular engines, Crystal Oscillators, The control units are needed too

[dense violet]

the milestones are your guides

[hazy void]

mk5 belt?

[prime magnet]

even after Tier 4

[dense violet]

yeah up to mk5 belt you can often do 1 belt per platform, but record the route time and see

mk6 belts you tend to only be able to do 1/2 a belt per platform with 1 train.

this is all assuming you're doing Point A to B and back

[hazy void]

i need to bring in at most 2300 items/min

ok

[dense violet]

prob need 3 platforms at least then 🙂 depends on how long your trip is

[stoic nebula]

i just heard this new game, its called satisfactory. has anyone heard of it?

[stoic nebula]

you could say its......... satisfactory

also i like your clan tag

[prime magnet]

cofee stain my goat

[unkempt blade]

you mean satisfactorycart?

[stoic nebula]

hmmmmm maybe

[unkempt blade]

It's a pretty great game. It's like if the tony hawk games had a protagonist that's the most adorable vehicle ever instead of some lame human

[stoic nebula]

interisting

[stoic nebula]

funny story me and my friend made a loop and race course for factory carts...

[unkempt blade]

did it have jump pads?

if not you should go back and add some jump pads

[ornate saffron]

The jump pads remind me of quake three. makes me wana rocket jump

[zenith shard]

IM SO PISSED

I thought I could kill the giant manta!!

[dense violet]

on consoles, yes

only console

[stoic nebula]

yea it did

[zenith shard]

I finally got to phase 3!!!!! woooooo

[scenic mirage]

yay me aluminum casing backed up for some reason and now i have so much nuclear waste 😭

[zenith shard]

how do I make a hole in a foundation?

[weary kestrel]

awesome shop

[dense violet]

why should casings back up stop your waste from being processed?

[scenic mirage]

instant plutonium cells?

[zenith shard]

what is it called and which part of it?

[dense violet]

yes but that should just mean you have a ton of casings for them right?

[fickle locust]

Conveyer Floor Hole and Pipe Floor Hole

[scenic mirage]

no no i mean that they stopped being produced

its 2am now trying to handle a nuclear waste disaster, almost done tho

[dense violet]

right, 'backed up' suggests they aren't being consumed, soz

[zenith shard]

WAIT there's a throughput monitor??? HELL YEAH!

[scenic mirage]

nah thats my bad

[dense violet]

it really doesn't do much. You have complete control over your machines clocking, so you know what's going on the belt.

[zenith shard]

how do I connect the conveyor to the hole?

[fickle locust]

You need a vertical conveyer

Conveyer lift is what it's called

[zenith shard]

WAIT if my conveyor lift can just clip through

isn't it kinda just cosmetic, this thing? 😢

[scenic mirage]

clip bad

[fickle locust]

It's nicer to do the hole since you get better control over where the input and output go

Also it's not as if tickets are a super limited quantity

[dense violet]

clipe foundations around in such a way that you make a gap you can fall through if you want a hole

[scenic mirage]

ok lets try n restart nuclear 🙏

[hazy void]

does biomass respawn?

[fickle locust]

Plants and such do no, animals that are a source of biomass do

[wispy osprey]

Major patches and updates respawn vegetation trees and mushrooms

[hazy void]

what’s the difference between production and capacity

[scenic mirage]

[fluid crow]

capacity includes power that produces only on demand like bio

[zenith shard]

holy shit my p/min is 1900 now

[weary kestrel]

👏 gaming

I'm on day 5 of avoiding my starting factory rebuild, I know I could leave it alone but I still use it a ton and its painfully inefficient

[fluid crow]

when it is done, feels good

[mystic crag]

Why can't the smelter be on the edge of the platform ts pmo😭

[tranquil zinc]

anybody have trouble with vertical splitters?

[sullen gull]

If not in a blueprint designer, You can hit H and bypass "surface is uneven"

[urban junco]

So i have been playing for a little bit and I am having problems with my power

one of my fuses is blown

[sullen gull]

Only in the interval in which they snap

[sullen gull]

Make more power. 🤷‍♂️

[tranquil zinc]

for me somtimes it works and most of the time it does not

[urban junco]

i need more power to make more power

and my water is not running

[tranquil zinc]

I have to rebuild multiple times and for a multilevel factory this is so annoying

[sullen gull]

Turn off some of your machine require power for now.

[compact harbor]

Does anyone have any tips for simplifying nuclear pasta?

[sullen gull]

Check headllift. Also, assuming you're referring to coal, take a gander at this:

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[weary kestrel]

Could also run a few biogens just to pump water into the coal machines to get started

[urban junco]

well i have power know but no water

[urban junco]

nevermind

[sullen gull]

Make thread in #1038092680493801533 and include screenshots. They help a ton.

[weary kestrel]

fluids is a right of passage in this game 🤣

Hey tinker dumb question, if I'm making fuel, there's nothing stopping me using the poly byproduct to make plastic to make empty canisters to package it right? or is that just standard routing?

[sullen gull]

Nope

[weary kestrel]

most of the guides I watch talk about just sinking the byproduct

but I'm like.... why? we need plastic for canisters

[sullen gull]

That is the "easiest"

And most usually make a dedicated recycled alt setup for plubber

[weary kestrel]

plubber 🤣

that made me think for a second

[sullen gull]

Stols it from marv 🤣

[weary kestrel]

That's fair, I might need to sus out what the production rates are

[nova ridge]

Do you guys bottle up water or ship as a liquid

[weary kestrel]

maybe tonight i'll start my diluted farm powerplant :clueless:

[urban junco]

i think i fixed

[sullen gull]

However, if concerned with point/coupons, it can always be beneficial to turn the resin into something else. Fabric, platic, then sink.

[sullen gull]

I personally never do either. If I am makeing something that needs water, I will pipe it or build on/near water

[weary kestrel]

I'll be honest, I haven't reallllly found much use for the awesome shop just yet, got a few production helpers (conveyor walls, floors etc) but mainly just gathering coupons for the fun of it

[nova ridge]

Btw I upgraded from. 10700k 32gb ddr4 3080 to a 9800x3d 32gb ddr5 with a 3080 gpu. And the difference is insane!

[sullen gull]

Imo, the managment section is the most useful. Followed by Foundations and Architecture.

[fickle locust]

I had a bigger jump but a very similar system (9700 and 4080 Super) and it was crazy how much smoother the game felt

[weary kestrel]

oh and architect, I love ladders for exploration pre jetpack

[nova ridge]

Yeah my fps was 40-60s is hypertube and 40 where most of my factory was . Now I limited it to 120 but it doesn’t drop below 100

[sullen gull]

wth ... teach me your secrets lol. I have a 9800x3d. 64gb, and a 4070ti and can't get above ~70-80 😭

[fickle locust]

Every time I think I'm done making computers I need to make more computers

[weary kestrel]

just overclock everything, problem solved

[nova ridge]

thats weird

[fickle locust]

50 for Radio Control Units, done. Then 75 for Supercomputers, done. But now I need 40 more for Adaptive Control Units

[fluid crow]

what resolution?

[nova ridge]

i have everything set to ultra right now cuz all my settings reset as well. ill prob change later

[fluid crow]

global illumination seems like the most expensive setting

[sullen gull]

Erm, 2560x1440

On a 32" curved 165hz display 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

I have kept them at ultra since owning 😏

[coral marsh]

Unlocked turbo fuel in my second world save. Pretty fun

[spare cradle]

Do I simply halve the amt of oil used, or try to double the amt of turbofuel as in needing to basically double speed 20 assemblers and roughly 7 mk2 miners

[versed mesa]

Hi all has there been anymore news with the upcoming update abd when its dropping ?

[green fiber]

not really

[last tartan]

wait till you realize everything you build looks atrocious

[feral jay]

Even after I've bought everything, it all still looks atrocious

[last tartan]

I spent too many hours building my shack

I built a big factory site, but I still need to design a roof

[feral jay]

A sloped roof is about is visually creative as I get

Everything is a box

I spend my time laying out stupidly complicated power grids and tube networks instead

[last tartan]

That’s how it is man

blagh, I couldn’t

are you good in terms of organization of your power plants?

[feral jay]

Ridiculously organized yeah, I overengineer everything

[nova ridge]

not anymore with this new cpu so far haha

[weary kestrel]

Im well aware of this, im still getting over skill issues with the actual game, design can come later 🤣

[last tartan]

I try to, yet factory setups are still awful lol

I did the building part, now I need to make an actually adequate factory setup

I’ve been messing around with the blueprint designer and trying to make some nice looking and semi efficient lines

I forgot about how I made every section of the factory controllable by an array of switches

[weary kestrel]

That sounds like a logistical nightmare 🫡

[feral jay]

I've done that for nuclear buildouts

It helps when you need to restart it if it all goes pear shaped

[jovial beacon]

I’m dying I feel like I have to dedicate a entire building with multiple iron nodes to automate heavy modular frames😭

[nova ridge]

i think neatest way to build is wher eyou hide everything under your platforms but its annoying to build that wya

[jovial beacon]

Vertical building is the only way for my factories to not look like spaghetti 🥲

[nova ridge]

wut you mean? i have a separate platform for each material i m making but its more of a verticle/horizontal. not quite stacking cuz its too dark to see well

[last tartan]

it is (now imagine a gif of 1000 yard stare is right here)

[weary kestrel]

I recently came across the cast screws recipe so I'm probably going to rip down my motor factory which makes me a little painge but that's life

[jovial beacon]

I build a layer for moving materials and such then use lifts to move things through the floor to the next layer where everything is crafted or stored

[nova ridge]

i see

do you oc everything cuz sometimes i need 20 buildings

[wispy osprey]

Shoutouts to

They're just a lil guy

[hard stump]

So smart playing other then space elevator is there a purpose to it?

[white dawn]

Why not just leave it as it is? You'll need to make plenty more motors later anyway; you can just make use of that recipe then

(By all means tear stuff down + rebuild if it brings you joy, of course, but beware burnout while doing so.  Your old factories still work! Can just let them be and build new stuff elswehere. It's a big map!)

[weary kestrel]

Mainly because this factory was build #1 of a more centralized area (granted still in the grassy plains) so I want to make it a somewhat efficient area where I can build many factory towers

My old old factory is in my starting location and that one is probably just staying as an inefficient mess which will have stuff handy if I need it

[feral jay]

Make multiple factories

[proper lintel]

Hi guys. I'm new here.

I'm trying to set up a train station and I was wondering, if I have a train station that could load 4 wagons, can I make it load only one specific wagon?

[white dawn]

Centralization tends to cause more problems than you may realize, though whatever you do, be sure to enjoy it. :)

[feral jay]

Yeah, just only load that particular station with goods, or, you can set "load/unload only" in the schedule settings

So if you have one platform with rods and another with plates, you can tell a train to load only plates - but not only a specific platform, if that's the question

It'll load from all platforms with plates

[weary kestrel]

not a mega factory per se, but just bringing a few different mined resources and then using in various towers

at least in theory this is the plan 🤣

[proper lintel]

Yeah... That's what I meant. Thanks!

[uneven path]

Honestly once you get into phase 3+ (maybe 4+) having a dedicated factory for your current phase isn't a bad way of doing things. You can bring everything you need to where you need it without worrying about the insane logistics and potential frame issues of a mega factory.

[proper lintel]

I thought about doing a series of connected stations so I could target a specific wagon. But I probably should be simplifying instead of making it more complicated

[weary kestrel]

I haven't even begun thinking about my actual space phase ngl, I saw the manufacturer and went nope nope nope, too problematic, later problem 🤣

I'm just working on improving my other productions, generating more than 0.00001 modular frames/minute for example

[uneven path]

Blueprints are your friend when it comes to manufacturers. Set up a bp with one or two manufacturers (depending on the size of your bp designer) that have all the splitters and lifts etc all set up. Then you just pop it down where you need it and the worst part of manufacturers is done for you.

[weary kestrel]

Good info ta

[nova ridge]

i should totally do that someday

[jovial beacon]

Oc?

[nova ridge]

use power shards

[weary kestrel]

overclock

[jovial beacon]

Depends on the node and and what my output goals are, I typically only oc to keep production smooth

[weary kestrel]

I'm planning on 250%ing an oil node and going to town on fuel, I think the wiki said 20 fuel gens 🔥

wait no, it was 1:40 with 300/oil, so 80 fuel gens.... 💀

[nova ridge]

i wish i had a biofuel/turbo fuel hybrid. turbo burns too quick

[weary kestrel]

I'm just going to do diluted packaging/unpackaging regular fuel, turbo looks confusing 🤣

I'm already biting off more than I can chew

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

To potentially save you some headache: were you planning on doing the Diluted loop inside nice little "closed" units of 2x Packager + 1x Refinery?

[weary kestrel]

When in doubt, there's a tinker video for anything 😄

[urban junco]

yay new problem

[placid stirrup]

a new problem is just a solution you haven't devised yet

[sullen gull]

Ficist Pioneers don't have problems... They have room for improvement

[urban junco]

yeah but i can't think of a solution

[fluid crow]

have you considered factory carts?

[placid stirrup]

Mick is writing a novel

[weary kestrel]

Process Crude Oil into Heavy Oil Residue using 10 Refineries.
Sink or process the byproduct - 200 Polymer Resin/min.
Use 6.67 Water Extractors to get 800 m3 of Water per minute
Package it (using Empty Canisters, which are recycled) in 13.33 Packagers to make Packaged Water (800/min).
Process the Packaged Water and Heavy Oil Residue in 13.33 Refineries to make Packaged Fuel using the Diluted Packaged Fuel alternate recipe (800/min).
Unpackage the Packaged Fuel in 13.33 Packagers (800 m3/min).
Recycle the Empty Canisters to package the Water
Split the fuel into 40 Fuel Generators.

(Straight from wiki)

[cunning glade]

I can just manifold 2 780 lines into 8 inputs for trains right?

[fluid crow]

might want a balancer for even loading

[white dawn]

So yeah, I'd highly recommend not manifolding all the packaging loop stuff, btw. That can be a bit of a nightmare to get going properly.

[weary kestrel]

Could you bypass that issue just be preloading with full materials? or not worth the hassle

[white dawn]

Instead, what I'd recommend is doing totally-isolated "closed" loops. You can fit it even inside a 4x4 Blueprinter -- 2x Packagers + 1x Refinery, and you can even have 20-30ish Empty Packages preloaded into the Packaged Water packager right inside the blueprint itself.

So what you end up with is a one-click mini-"Blender" which takes in HOR+Water and spits out Fuel

Even preloading would be a bit tricky on account of the fluids involved, honestly. Closed loops are a lot easier to deal with with the Packaged Diluted recipe

One possible layout of that for a 4x4 blueprinter, btw: #math-and-meta message

(I'd also honestly further recommend having each one of those isolated modules output to just the fuel gens that it supports, directly, rather than combining all the fuel together. :)

[weary kestrel]

okay that image made it very clear nice

This is going to get crazy complicated quickly with the scaling 🤣

[placid stirrup]

left out: use 4x the quantity of starter empty canisters as the process "requires"

[cunning glade]

That's what I thought

[dusky hedge]

just spent a few hours building nitro rocket fuel and a train to bring in the coal and sulphur
then i found nitrogen right next to my coal and sulphur 🙃

[cunning glade]

Because then I'll have 6 780 belts and then a partial belt into 16 inputs so how does one do that

[dusky hedge]

you can have a loop back for overflow instead of a balancer if it saves space
simple and robust but depends on the layout

[zenith shard]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q5a1zmS41gE I don't get it, why 3 manifold lanes? and not just 2?

[fluid crow]

can probably make it work doing 1:2 or 1:3s somehow

[fluid crow]

most stuff has more materials coming in than going out

[lilac pecan]

hOW I CONECT to others STEAm players? i mean... ( not friends )... other users.

i see only ( conect to Epic games ).

I hate epic games.

[chilly edge]

I'm having a bit of a weird issue

my friend keeps getting kicked after about 30 seconds

[deep bloom]

Question, why is my train highlighted/outlined red

[leaden turret]

did it crash?

[deep bloom]

No, it is parked

[weary kestrel]

||is it parked or "parked" 🤣 ||

[deep bloom]

Currently not moving and railed to be specific

[sullen gull]

Visual bug. Can try to hover with dismantle gun or reload

[deep bloom]

yeah it is only when I am within like 1km of it

oh, it was a bug to do with paint, it had custom paint. I guess it has to be normal FICSIT colour

[weary kestrel]

Sorry I was just being a shit, please don't mind me 🤣

[deep bloom]

no worries

[weary kestrel]

My mind went to aussies screaming "you can't park there mate" to a crashed car

[feral jay]

Okay now I get it

[deep bloom]

As an aussie i said that the first time I crashed a train car

[sullen gull]

UK as well 😏

[feral jay]

fuck me, I just hooked up 30 refineries... backwards

[deep bloom]

damn

[coral marsh]

😭 I feel the pain bro

[weary kestrel]

Yeah I screwed up my blueprint set-up the first time I used it like that and haven't gone back since

[coral marsh]

What are they for, I have a couple highly detailed blueprints for fuel and turbo fuel production.

[sullen gull]

Have totally done that.... twice 🙁

Though alcohol may have been a factor 🤣

[coral marsh]

🤣 fun times

[weary kestrel]

drunk rocket engineer 🤣

[sullen gull]

And you thought that was coffee 😏

[coral marsh]

You wanna use my 2 refineries blueprints? I made them specifically for turning crude oil into turbo fuel

[hard stump]

So for path signals and such. Someone just told me I want a bigger gap bemteeen my tracks for them to work is that true

[dense violet]

not sure what you mean by that?
are you talking about the occasional bug that doesn't like signals right on a junction?

[chilly edge]

I for some reason am suddenly having port forwarding issues?

Ah just saw the channel ;p

[weary kestrel]

thank you but i'll pass, I do enjoy the building process itself

I already steal ideas and math off others, I don't want to just print my way to the end 🤣

[feral jay]

There we go, hooked up correctly

I'm in the process of doubling my turbofuel plant

sooooo many refineries, I don't have diluted fuel yet

[hard stump]

I guess I had my tracks side by side. And someone just told me that you need a foundation space beteeen them because it messes with the signals and stuff

[dense violet]

ah so you don't need a full foundation space in between them

if you have 2 foundations running side by side, and put each rail down the middle of each, thats the minimum distance they can be and not clip on turns

[feral jay]

It can, or it least it did previously, if you built tracks too close together too quickly - they'd connect up wrong, but that bug may have been fixed, I haven't seen it in a while now

[dense violet]

this far https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1449232016577925222/1449236887423418488/image.png?ex=69670907&is=6965b787&hm=f1e5cbf6edaa2f85d2349a9172926c18c7a0fc4b8a9e8e36e6ed12311b474780&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[feral jay]

Like the tracks would look like they were laid out right, but the game code would have them connected in the wrong place, invisibly

I always lay my tracks on adjacent foundations like Cobalt just linked

[hard stump]

If I put something in screenshot can you tell me if it should work or not sorry hard for me to tell with that pic but I’m blind and stupid

[dense violet]

yeah that's fine but try #math-and-meta instead, we can talk about it there easily and share pics

gen chat is basically the only place you can't place images

[hard stump]

Ok just posted it

[nocturne agate]

hi, quick question, is it possible for personal elevators to autoconnect in blueprints?

[dense violet]

seems unlikely but you could try

[nocturne agate]

unless I did something wrong, it did not auto connect

[dense violet]

prob the fastest way to get an answer.
well afaik you need some distance between teh 2 objects you want to autoconnect

so if the hologram isn't generating I think that's your answer

[nocturne agate]

o7, its just unfortunate that I can't even pre-place elevator stops without the actual elevator

guess I'll just have my elevator shaft blueprint and put the elevator in manually

tyty

[proper anvil]

Can I somerloop uranium rods output

[zenith spire]

I’m addedicted to statisfactory

At my job rn & I just completely redesigned my whole iron factory & ran all the calculations in my head. Now I’m also writing it down in my journal so I remember the calculations & setup

Most calcs, some I had to pull out the calculator cause it was too many variables to keep track of

[hard stump]

Ugh ok now trying to figure out a track design knowing I need those gaps for path signals and such ugh sucks 🙁

[zenith spire]

I see so many people have issues w/ those signals

Shoot, I’ve never used trains & im close to beating the game rn

[dense violet]

you can keep trains pretty simple if you want 🙂

[zenith spire]

True. I guess I’ve always been stubborn on conveyor systems to everything

[dense violet]

you can think of trains as just big conveyors honestly. It's how the ywork

except you can send multiple belts on a rail and modify it more easily

[zenith spire]

True, I do want to dabble into trains sometime. Maybe I will on my newer world when I get to em

It’s just that I’ve always found conveyors simpler & more logical & w/ how my factories are setup. it’s not like multiple of different resources from different factories sent around to each other. I have like one factory sending one main item to another if I absolutely need to, otherwise I like do all production in one singular factory & expand upon it if needed.

I just find it easier imo

[weary kestrel]

Im still deciding how i feel about conveying halfway across the map, I feel like it'd be incredibly ugly but maybe with a few layers of them it'll turn into nice symmetry?

[wicked nacelle]

trains are awesome

[dense violet]

long belts totally viable, especially while you're going up the tiers

[severe pewter]

I may or may not have run 3 belts all the way from the middle of the Pink Forest there, to Southern plains area. Though honestly, the roads took longer than the belts

[zenith spire]

I do the same thing. I should show some pictures but I’m at work. It doesn’t look ugly, really all you do is make the conveyor high enough on foundation in the air so you’re not just trekking it building it on land. I use somewhat of a half tunnel build, foundation supports along the way w/ it running along between them. Use signs to give it that futuristic light up effect & it looks nice that way

[dense violet]

that's fine 🙂 I often only do trains after I unlock things and do my own projects

[severe pewter]

Somewhere between tiers 6 and 7, I started using the underground for some belt routing. Helps a lot in keeping clutter down. Just gotta be careful not to get stuck in the process.

[weary kestrel]

Yeah feel free to tag me whenever you're on next and I'll see what you cook up, my "off the ground" works are pretty minimal currently

Currently early phase 3 so very much just beginning the "actually lay foundations for success" part now

[zenith spire]

That’s a actually great idea. I had never thought of underground belt systems like that through caves

[bleak scaffold]

what spawn area has the most pure iron nodes

or most pure nodes

[placid sphinx]

good morning all, ive not played for a while,, what version are we on now and is experimental the same as the main~?

[dense violet]

check out the online map

though pure nodes don't do much until much later, since your belts will limit you

[zenith spire]

Desert is arguably the best for resources

[zenith spire]

Will do boss man

[wide ingot]

anyone here familiar with issues connecting between epic and steam, read the FAQ like 4 times now and I (epic (not by choice)) can't connect to my friend (steam)

[tough kelp]

Hey all. I just built my first particle accelerator. I get the power range thing. 500-1500 low to peak, but it just blew my fuses and I go and look at it and it says it’s 16,000-24000mw of power to run now. What am I not understanding? Is it compounding forever?

[zenith spire]

Desert just lacks in resources like crude oil, nitrogen gas, geysers, sulfar, but is abundant in iron, copper, moderately has limestone, & coal, also has a uranium & sam node. As far as biofuel resources. The nearby forest, in opposite direction of the forest by the waterfall, is really good for wood j leaves @bleak scaffold

IMO anyways. Online map is good

[zenith spire]

You can’t connect pc to console, from steam to epic like that

[short fiber]

Shpuld I pick up steel screws or bolted iron plates?

[dense violet]

are you Over clocking and slooping it?

both things increase power draw

[wide ingot]

no consoles involved, PC steam to PC epic

[zenith spire]

Arguably bolted iron plates

They have like 15 per minute I think, pretty good compared to using steel for screws imo

[tough kelp]

I guess 1500 at 250% x4 is 21k

[short fiber]

Or would it be better to keep it there to prevent them from coming back?

[zenith spire]

Ah makes sense, I wouldn’t be able to help then sorry

[dense violet]

well machines at 250% use more than 250% more power. and then multiply so yeah

[fluid crow]

steam can connect to epic but not the other way around I think

[zenith spire]

I think you need more power bro

[tough kelp]

Yeah I only have 18,000mw atm.

[dense violet]

prob avoid slooping PAs then

and other big power machines

[zenith spire]

Make of em alien power augmenters if u can

If u haven’t already

But your need more power than that I’d think, that’d just help

Anyways I gotta get back to my job. Cya yall

[short fiber]

Is stitched iron plate any good?

[cunning glade]

Hey chat how do I load balance for trains I'm stupid apparently and like can't think

[abstract heron]

I AM HOPING a stream today

[dense violet]

all alt recipes have their uses 🙂

and sure it can be real cool especially mixed wit hother recipes like iron wire

[ember moon]

Copper rotors:

[dense violet]

very cheap in rotors

[ember moon]

Shits saved me from cross mapping just to get more iron

[dense violet]

I prefer steel rotor most of the time since stators use the same items

[weary kestrel]

Yeah i had heard mention of this, seems pretty handy

Hey curiosity sake, how many people have a storage hub? Was watching a "100 days of" video and guy was setting up a whole storage facility but im like.... surely you just dimension depot most important stuff and anything else make it easily accessible?

[fluid crow]

having some stuff on hand for objectives and stuff is nice

[severe pewter]

With my sushi factory, because I have so much going on in a very small space, I had very few locations to actually route the incoming resources without making a huge mess. So I sent everything incoming underground (tangent, but it is super annoying to manually line up floor holes with conveyor lifts. Doubly annoying if you want to line them up vertically as well to avoid the lift gap), then organized the routing from there. Even set aside a separate section - it's still a work in progress, but the foundations have been laid for when I finally decide to start playing with aluminum - for an underground railroad.

Some people say it feels like cheating, and idk maybe, but it is so much harder to organize things through several layers of rock, so I don't think so, and it actually feels at this point like an actual underground system, similar to a sewer.

The one bit I might call cheating would be tapping jnto the underground ponds, but those are fun to play with for a whole different reason.