satisfactory

[leaden turret]

rodin's the thinker

[sullen gull]

........ Start your Nuke plant yet?

[golden nexus]

No, What can i build which i can finish today

I don't think i did portable miners yet

[sullen gull]

What do you still need?

[golden nexus]

probably need to tidy up

[unkempt blade]

a factory cart skate park with extra jump pads for maximum trick performance

[sullen gull]

Pssssfhh ... jump pads..... wimp 😛

[leaden turret]

[tony hawk pro skater noise]

[acoustic tapir]

That's just Goldfinger - Superman.

[sullen gull]

Oh, wait, disregard, I read jump pads, but brain wanted to go with jelly pad 🤦‍♂️

[leaden turret]

I mean the bloopy noise, not the soundtrack

[golden nexus]

can factory cart be automated?

[unkempt blade]

hey it was like 9 songs and I'm pretty sure I could still sing along to all of them somehow

[leaden turret]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=skatepark

[sullen gull]

Nah

[ornate saffron]

You can use it with a truck station and make a recorded route

[golden nexus]

still have 2 of the 3 starter iron nodes avilable lol

[leaden turret]

construction of: no
autopilot: yes

[hazy void]

@sullen gull i was looking through others recipies for fuel rods for fun, and i noticed that one of them requires 3000 encased uranium cells/min but i did the math and its only possible to get 1680/ min if u use all the uranium in the world

[sullen gull]

Could have been using converters? 🤷‍♂️

[hazy void]

oh damn i forgot about that

[sullen gull]

Erm, using all 2,100 uranium only, I am seeing only a max of 1050 cells possible?

[hazy void]

use the alernate

[sullen gull]

2100 if the machine is slooped...

[hazy void]

infused cells

[sullen gull]

Ahh, dur

[sterile blade]

@exotic tartan How about reposting this #screenshots message to #satisfactory-memes? 😉

[rugged shard]

I'm I gonna need ALOT of heavy modular frames? Because I don't know should I make them alot or not that much

[sullen gull]

Would require the use of 6,600 bauxite: #screenshots message

[hazy void]

wait converters can just turn things into other things?

[mystic oriole]

at cost

[rugged shard]

Dawg just putted thumbs up 😭

[sullen gull]

Of some sam and a butload of power lol

[sullen gull]

Lol,. I don't know how many. But they are used in a lot of things: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Heavy_Modular_Frame

[rugged shard]

Like idk should I make it like 10 A min or like 50 a min

[sullen gull]

Heh, overclocking at all?

[rugged shard]

Yes

[hazy void]

also whats that thing called that just lets u plan things

[sullen gull]

50 😛

[rugged shard]

Overclocked plus sloop, one machine makes 10

[sullen gull]

If you're referring to my screen shots, Satisfactory Modeler. Free on steam

[sullen gull]

Ahh, psssfh, 50 then 🤣

[hazy void]

ok thank you

[rugged shard]

Alr🔥

[half atlas]

Hi guys, I found a crude oil, but it's not scannable and can't put down the oil extractor. What do I do here?

[sullen gull]

Honesly though, They are used a lot in building, but only for one SE item and Fused Mod frames 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

Most likely a resource well. You'll unlock the ability to use those a bit later

When you unlock Tier 8 😏

[acoustic tapir]

PROVIDE FOR US THE LOCUS AND WE SHALL BEGIN CALIBRATIONS.

[sullen gull]

Consume

[acoustic tapir]

LIVE. LAUGH. CONSUME.

^ one of the finest jokes in any video game, imo.

[sullen gull]

Idk, Choo Choo Mutha F&*(&$# is pretty up there 😛

[acoustic tapir]

That's true. 🚂

[sullen gull]

Maybe just for me though 😏

[sullen gull]

Gotta have hair 😏 🤣

[unkempt blade]

I'm donating mine again in April then I'll be bald-ish briefly 🙂

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-showing-off-shahs-of-sunset-youre-flaunting-it-youre-boasting-it-youre-displaying-it-gif-22019772

[clear tartan]

whats the pros of doubling up on conveyors

just more ore transport?

[sullen gull]

If you need more than your max belt will carry

[golden nexus]

double rate?

[sullen gull]

Nah, but build in blocks of 600 and you're golden

Very old versions perhaps. Have had zero issues since I have been playing personally 🤷‍♂️

[half atlas]

Question

[unkempt blade]

yeah someone in my family got a wig when I was in college so I've been doing a donation drive event + donating my hair every 2 years (for it to be long enough)

[sullen gull]

I've only been playing since the ass-end of U8. So, more so 1.0 and beyond

[half atlas]

If something is divided by 3 does it mean (example)

120 (splits into 3) 40 / 40 / 40?

[sullen gull]

You "could" control it by using diffeernt belt speed. Mk2 on one side and mk1 on another will push 120 one way and 60 the other. (If the input was 180 persay

Honestly, only things I have personally slooped are slugs (And solid bimoss for the luls and because I had the sloops 😛 )

Turbo diamonds = ❤️

[abstract heron]

Are plutonium nuclear fuel rods are they worth doing

[golden nexus]

Well its how you recycle hte waste.....

[fickle locust]

I am so glad mk6 belts exist
There was so much time where it was argued that somehow belts couldn't be made to go faster and people proposed convoluted fixes for miner overclocking
And now we just have the answer

[half atlas]

What do I do with packaged heavy oil residue?

[sullen gull]

Lol, they have ~~about ~~ over 18k hours 😛 I feel like the answer is known 😏

[white dawn]

I'd say the most widespread opinion is that it's worth processing into Plutonium, whether you then sink the rods or burn them for more power

[clear tartan]

is a 31 long manifold even going to work

[fickle locust]

Diluted fuel

[half atlas]

I'm not that far yet

[fickle locust]

Yes but depending on what's on the belt it might take a while to fill up

[clear tartan]

mk4

[abstract heron]

But I mean in long run

Like making them etc etc

[fickle locust]

You can turn it into petroleum coke and sink it initially, eventually you want to use it for diluted fuel

[sullen gull]

How much is each machine pulling? Does it match your max belt speed? If so, then yes

[upper gale]

Guys I think hard drives should be reworked (again) and here's my idea:

• You get a list of all items you currently have unlocked
• From that list, pick the item you want and it gives you a random recipe of that item (consuming 1 hard drive)
• No takebacks/rescans though so if you want another recipe of that item you'll need another hard drive

So you'll only get recipes from the item of your choice, and there will still be a tiny bit of rng involved but it will be a lot less rng

[fickle locust]

No I mean what is on the belt? Is this a high volume resource, you're running ore into 31 smelters? Or are you trying to make computers in 31 manufacturers and this will feed crystal oscillators?

[clear tartan]

oh

iron ore

[clear tartan]

iron ore to smelters

[abstract heron]

@void gorge when does the team come back together?

[half atlas]

I'm sorry now I understand, it's residual fuel

[abstract heron]

And fun happens again

[white dawn]

If you want to send requests like that to the devs, the Questions site is where to do it, btw.

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[spice spindle]

I'VE DONE IT!!! FINALLY GOT MY COMPACTED COAL TRAINS UP AND RUNNING !!!

[abstract heron]

Now the testing part

[fickle locust]

You should have no issues, that'll spin up in a minute or two. Just check the math on belt speed because 30 ore for 31 machines is 930 per minute and that won't go on a mk 4 belt

[upper gale]

Thanks, yeah I just wanted some other peoples' thoughts before I post the suggestion

[clear tartan]

how else am i meant to do it then?

[fickle locust]

You can use residual fuel right now as well. There's a separate recipe called diluted fuel that's like a more efficient residual fuel

[fickle locust]

I mean you'll get some of the iron smelting into some of the smelters, it just won't be able to run at 100% until you have faster speeds. Why did you want 31 specifically?

[silent sky]

Just nuke every single life form, because i dont like weird things

[clear tartan]

to make 10 modular engines a minute

[white dawn]

My own thought is that the chances of them overhauling the recipe-scanning process again is essentially zero, so eh? :D

But no harm in suggesting something you'd like. I suspect if you ever want it changed, it'd have to be the purview of mods, though

[clear tartan]

unless if i were to half production so it would work out

[white dawn]

^ er, replyfail. :D

[clear tartan]

@fickle locust is it even possible for me to make that much work out in smelters?

[fickle locust]

Yeah you're just having a belt speed issue. Mk 5 belts will make it easier, as will using multiple nodes with separate lines

[sullen gull]

Sure. With enough ore

[fickle locust]

You can also make use of recipes to produce larger quantities of iron ore. I like the copper/iron recipe in the foundry since there's usually copper near iron

[sullen gull]

Or the pure/leeched recipes.

[clear tartan]

how can i make it work with mk4 belts

[fickle locust]

There's another recipe with limestone, another with water, both of those get you more iron ingots and let you not need to use quite as many initial smelters

[sullen gull]

Split it up into blocks

[fickle locust]

Make 2 sets of 15 smelters (well, a 15 and a 16)

[clear tartan]

ok

[sullen gull]

480/30 =16

[clear tartan]

so feed half and then the other seperate?

[upper gale]

I see, thanks for your input. Yeah I mean it's not a very necessary change so prob won't happen but sometimes the current system feels a bit annoying which is why i thought of this. And also to help reduce save scumming

[sullen cloak]

so like do I need to do something?
or I need to finished Phase 4?
#screenshots message

[fickle locust]

Yeah exactly. Use two nodes, each feeding half of the block

[sick falcon]

how do i remove the cyber wagon from the build gun

[sullen gull]

Open your build menu, hovber over the cyber truck, and press the number it's on

[sick falcon]

no like remove it from the build menu

[sullen gull]

Oh, you don't once it's purchaced.

New save, or go back a to before you bought it.

[half atlas]

Does the residual fuel not accept direct source of heavy oil residue?

[sullen gull]

Look at the recipe

[half atlas]

Yeah, it says 6 cubic meter of heavy oil residue, and I'm feeding it through pipe

Is that not how that work?

[sullen gull]

Is the machine powered?

[half atlas]

Yes

[sullen gull]

Is the output buffer full?

[half atlas]

No it's not generating anything at all

Also on the same level

[sullen gull]

Best bet would be to make a thread in #1038092680493801533 with screenshots

[upper gale]

One last thought, I feel that players shouldn't need to get through an rng wall in order to get a recipe they want, or have to brute-force it by collecting a bunch of hard drives, or reload saves ect

It's avoidable by scanning hard drives as you progress but if you don't, the game effectively punishes you for it. Making your pool size massive

[sullen gull]

Heh, also dumb question, but don't have the refinery backwards do ya? 😛

[half atlas]

Ok I posted

Well if I did then I would have known by now!

Which by the way was the answer!

Classic game

[sullen gull]

What's the pump for? Is only needed to bring fluid Up

[half atlas]

Sometimes I just add it for fun

[sullen gull]

Sorry, don't recall.

Heh, I had accidently killed the power to the nitrogen production once .. Caught a line in the background while dismantling 😏

[upper gale]

Oof that is the worst, accidentally dismantling a wire, especially when you don't know which one it was

[sullen gull]

Outside of the time it takes, I personally don't mind the current methods. But, I alos love expoloreing the map 🤷‍♂️

[upper gale]

Yeah I see

[sullen gull]

Yeah, usually I will load the BP in a designer, tailor it, and save it under a different name before placing for that reason 😛

[brazen cove]

is there even a way to be faster than a hacker? i mean i just want to wonder if it's possible to be faster than a guy with cheats like inf energy and health and something else idk, but he doesn't know almost anything about the game and plays on 1.0, and just other guy who is just a normal player without any kind of cheats?

[zenith shard]

....how spaghetti? #screenshots message

[upper gale]

Needs a bit more umm
Spaghetti
probably

Or you could join the better side /jk and build clean

Also I still can't get over the explosive rebar 😪 it's too good for breaking stuff

[zenith shard]

#satisfactory-memes message WOOOOO no more wood cutting!!!

[sacred trail]

Is there any option for the dismantle a belt, it also dismantle the metal support? It sucks having to manually dismantle it.

[hazy void]

how many MW does 1 fully over clocked nuclear plant make?

[reef basin]

build one to see 🙂

[hazy void]

i dont even have aluminum factory yet

[unkempt blade]

the wiki knows

[hazy void]

im looking there rn cant find anything

[reef basin]

where are you looking?

[hazy void]

satisfactory wiki,gg

[reef basin]

yeah but which page? are you looking at nuclear plan page?

[hazy void]

yeah

[reef basin]

it's like 3rd row in the infobox?

[hazy void]

so 7500MW?

[reef basin]

2500MW, it's even written in third sentence

[hazy void]

over clock speed

[reef basin]

then multiply it by the clock speed 🤷

[clear tartan]

what about 49 constructors

same method?

[fickle locust]

Yeah

Belt throughput is an important feature of basically any project. Even once you get to mk 6 belts, it's great they do 1200 per minute... yesterday I was making 2350 quickwire per minute. So I needed to separate into two blocks

[hazy void]

is it possible to make artificial somersloops?

[clear mesa]

nope

[clear tartan]

but would it work if I split it into 2

[zenith shard]

gaaahhhh

im going crazy with my spaghetti

some of my conveyor belt goes under the floor

[fickle locust]

You have belts with a max throughput of 480 per minute. So long as you're not trying to feed more than 480 resources per minute on a belt, that aspect will be fine.

[clear tartan]

ah

[fickle locust]

So you can do 480/30=16 smelters in a block, then you're maxed out on that belt. You can do another 16 smelters on another block, which will again max out. Each block will produce the same number of ingots as incoming ore, so your outputs of the blocks will also be 480 iron ingots. Then you feed those into machines and construct stuff, etc.

[stoic nebula]

most of my conveyors go under the floor its okay

[fickle locust]

I don't know how you're planning to make all the modular engines and it's possible something about that plan won't work, but a manifold will be great for a high throughput process like this

[sacred trail]

6250MW

[rigid mist]

Hey we got a scam in the memes channel

[hazy void]

how to stop z fighting?

[quick barn]

Use concrete skin

[ornate saffron]

I make logistics floors. Specifically for belts between construction floors

[brazen coral]

Is there anything else you use the power shards for besides ionized fuel?

[clear mesa]

Alien Power Matrix

[brazen coral]

Ah okay, haven't haven't been able to craft that yet because I've been using the sloops for other things.

Or actually I haven't unlocked that yet I mean

[left topaz]

I’m struggling with a push pull train system could anyone help? I’m trying to get two inputs going to one depot station and then depart it look something like this ====>—— but I’m struggling with signaling any help is appreciated

[obsidian quail]

reading chat here just makes me want to skip work and go to work on my factories

[clear mesa]

Theyre as late game as it gets

[brazen coral]

Yeah, I just haven't gotten the singulary cells crafting yet just because it's so much materials at the moment, same thing for portals. Just haven't been able to craft them

[clear mesa]

You'll get there

[mystic urchin]

This game is making me depressed
I have legit ran out of design ideas
I need to build a heavy modular frame factory but I haven't the faintest clue how to even shape it, let alone make it look anything more than a box
How do you all do it? How do you decide how to make a factory?
I want to play and progress this game but every new factory is giving me a anxiety because I cannot figure out a design
I am on 300 hours in this save and still haven't left phase 3

[clear mesa]

Maybe focus on functionality if design isnt your knack?

[south sinew]

if you hvae no better ideas you do it sequentially

[obsidian quail]

just do whatever feels good man, it doesn't need to be fully optimized or designed.

[south sinew]

oh you mean aesthetically

[brazen coral]

I've slowly been trying to get nuclear power set up or at least building the blueprint to automate it without too much interference.

[obsidian quail]

once you have it up and running, you can build and play with ideas while it churns out items

[mystic urchin]

I don't know what feels good, that's the problem
My ADHD brain can't think of anything that "feels good" as a factory design

[clear mesa]

Also you're missing out on the hoverpack which will greatly aid you in designing

[brazen coral]

Yeah the hover pack helps out a lot but you just have to remember just power poles around your designer as well lol

[green fiber]

most factories can be carved out.
start with production and then just extend it however you want.
use multiple floors.
when you are done with the machines, remove any unneccessary foundations and then just start covering stuff up

[mystic urchin]

I already have the required machines thought out and the location but no idea how to build the building itself

[obsidian quail]

adhd brain isn't really a thing. just start with the basics, plan out what you need on paper and go. if it's ugly, who tf cares, you don't need anything else really.

[mystic urchin]

Did you just tell me my ADHD diagnosis isn't a thing

[clear mesa]

😭

[mystic urchin]

Also if it's ugly I care, because I wanna make nice builds but I can never figure out how

[clear mesa]

Im dying but man just start with a box and then branch out from there once you have the structure set up

Start by designing the corners, extend it out maybe idk

[green fiber]

pretty factories come from practice

[obsidian quail]

nope, but i like how that was the only thing you focused on. it's not adhd that's preventing you from making a factory. its choice overload. which means you just have to start and adjust as you go.

[clear mesa]

But staying paralyzed on the planning board wont give you the experience you need anyways

[mystic urchin]

I didn't care much about design in my pre-1.0 save, and all my factories were boxes, some didn't even have walls

[green fiber]

its not worth it to worry about how it will look in the end - the journey kinda matters more

[brazen coral]

Does dark matter have a container/ packaging?

[green fiber]

yes - dark matter crystals

[flat zinc]

Thinking of playing today after a while of nothin

[green fiber]

but its not a tradional packaging thing

[clear mesa]

Requires the particle accelerator so idk if that's packaged but i mean...turns it solid

[brazen coral]

Yeah I'm making those currently cuz I have the alternate recipe for ionized

[mystic urchin]

You would think I have some practice after almost 800h in the game

[green fiber]

idk - have you experimented with design in those 800h?

what have you learned from that experience?

[clear mesa]

Recruit a builder friend and play co-op

[mystic urchin]

That I am terrible at designing if I don't copy real world buildings

[clear mesa]

Or just dont set such high standards for yourself....at 800h you cant be as bad as you describe, not everyones gonna be building masterpieces yk :p

[green fiber]

then do so.
Use references

[brazen coral]

This is actually the point where I need somebody for co-op play cuz I'm having trouble. Compartmentalizing/ individualizing factories

[obsidian quail]

all you're doing is making excuses instead of trying the suggestions people have given you. find what works for you, but spinning your wheels doing nothing doesn't help.

[green fiber]

you dont have to copy real buildings 1:1, but you can just..... steal design ideas

[brazen coral]

Cuz almost everything at this point needs some form of aluminum product which gets delivered by train for now

[green fiber]

nobody can and WILL stop you from stealing design ideas and weaving them into your builds

[clear mesa]

Loool I enjoy a good co-op session until the rail logistics start interfering

[brazen coral]

I currently only have one train delivering everything and so far it keeps everything running enough

[spare cradle]

Is there a way to have what you place down be preset to a color without having it be a blueprint

[brazen coral]

Not 100% efficiency but at least 80

[obsidian quail]

i love how absolutely insane things get over time, i had no idea it would explode to such levels of industry

[brazen coral]

Drones help out quite a bit later on

[mystic urchin]

The suggestions in question are "start from the basics"
And how do I start with the basics if I can't even think of a basic design to expand on

[obsidian quail]

"oh this factory will work for so many things.... wait, feck, i need like 4 more of the same size going just to keep up now."

[clear mesa]

seeing the phase 4 space elevator requirements for the first time

[obsidian quail]

i think it's time for a break. go have a smoke, play a different game for a bit.

[obsidian quail]

exactly! hahah

[brazen coral]

For my basic design, I keep everything in pairs of three because I had the idea that well splitters have three outputs and then I just expand on that

Constructor/ assembler/ whatever else

Pairs of three take a lot of stuff really well

[clear mesa]

also realising there's a whole ass rifle in the game was beautiful

[spare cradle]

Ah yes, gun.

[mystic urchin]

Easy to use a reference when I know what I want
I have done that already in the past, but I already knew what I wanted to use as reference
Right now I don't even know how to pick a good reference to base it on

[clear mesa]

Also im not sure but there definitely is a mod i remember seeing for this

[spare cradle]

I'd rather just use blueprints

[mystic urchin]

Taking a month long break is what caused me to run out of inspiration

[obsidian quail]

ok.

[spare cradle]

As I am going to make a tower that could be a museum of blueprint platforms for me to edit and use. Something dumb so I can just make something fancy.

[clear mesa]

I don't really remember off the top of my head if it's possible unfortunately

But if not it definitely should be made possible

[green fiber]

look through #design-and-architecture
look through #screenshots
look at Satisfactory reddit
search up a couple of real life factories making stuff
like "integrated circuit factories" or "steel foundries around the world"
keep images you like in a reference folder

I have my own folder full of images of stuff.

Heavy modular frames are 90% steel and iron stuff

i personally would just mesh together some iron / steel works.
and i would make those distinct buildings

[mystic urchin]

Won't be using steel but that's irrelevant

[spare cradle]

Also concrete.

[green fiber]

you can just steal ideas, its legal

[clear mesa]

He meant steel

[green fiber]

oh wait steel LOL

[mystic urchin]

My bad

[spare cradle]

Architectural Designs are not copyrighted

[green fiber]

best thing to do is break your project up into sub-groups

dont think of it as "the big HMF factory"

[spare cradle]

Aaaaand, that

Think of it as smaller components to that, and work on those components

[green fiber]

think "the big 5 (or more... or less) factories that together make HMFs"

[spare cradle]

To them then source to the HMF factory.

[clear mesa]

Or remember you're here to exploit and not enhance 🤓

[green fiber]

you could turn Modular frame production into its own building

or make it a section of another building, like iron production

for references to all that, i would pick inspiration from bigger steel complexes

[brazen coral]

Or what you could do is turn it all into a big tornado

[green fiber]

you can use older ones or newer ones - or both

[spare cradle]

I, personally, rather keep replicating factories. And then leave one inefficient so I can nab resources from it like steel.

[sick falcon]

i just make a big platform and make all the parts on there and have them go into a conveyor spaghetti under the platform to get to where they need to

[brazen coral]

Same, and then I put a splitter on the lift to go to overflow for the mall

[stone bridge]

how do you build around the pressurizer when you are trying to extract, nitrogen, oil and water?

[brazen coral]

Everything except for space elevator parts

[spare cradle]

Mall? You have a mall?

[brazen coral]

I do, it works really well

[mystic urchin]

I have a mall too

[brazen coral]

I even have a blueprint for them all

[mystic urchin]

Mine won't fit into a blueprint

[south sinew]

put the pressuriser in the center, build all the pumps in the little holes around the outside, then the stuff comes out of pipes

[brazen coral]

Basically tie two industrial storages together with a lift, split it going into dimensional storage first and then everything after that going into the front storage bin

[stone bridge]

I didnt frase it correctly, I know how to do it, i mean in what way, like decoration wise? idk if i describe well what am asking

[brazen coral]

You'll always have at least one industrial storage bin full of everything going into your inventory for use

[south sinew]

oh you mean aesthetically

it should be same as what you do for miners, i.e. just a covering of some kind I think

[sick falcon]

i saw someone made the pipes around it go in a really impressive spiral

it might have been @sullen gull

[stone bridge]

interesting ideas, at the start i just placed it randomly and it looked awful, i just starting making my wells look better, so i just want to see what others are doing

[brazen coral]

Does the ionized fuel have a longer life bottled than the rocket fuel if you were using for jetpack or is it the same amount but with more thrust?

[covert quarry]

beginner here, im currently in the process of building a factory that will generate me 6 diffrent items and i bet i will unlock more that need iron to craft, so initially is it better to use like smelters, constructors etc. for each item or is it better to use a few machines and just overclock them with power slugs? its really comlpicated so ty for helping 🙂

[sick falcon]

you dont need to overclock early, especially because the power requirement goes up significantly

[mystic urchin]

Don't use power slugs early on too much because the power consumption goes up exponentially on the machine
Wait for when you have at least coal power plants unlocked
For now just build a few buildings producing every item

[stone bridge]

Personaly i think, that you will demolish and build everything at least 10 times, just go with what you have now, low no need to overclock yet, and then maybe if you want overclock

[sick falcon]

also you don’t need that much of each item, one constructer making each one should get you through the whole game

[clear mesa]

All good advice except always overclock the miners, those are the ones that are pretty much always worthwhile

[mystic urchin]

Yes

[covert quarry]

i mean i have a power plant with coal generators and i can keep stacking it, power isn't really the problem its the process thats super slow

[brazen coral]

To further expand on that sloop the slugs when you're able to do the research in the MAM for each type

[covert quarry]

i do have them unlocked

[mystic urchin]

Ok if you have coal power you can scale up and overclock

[covert quarry]

bet, thanks

[covert quarry]

tbh constructors are slow like 15 rods a minute is bad i think so i js afk a lot

[sick falcon]

build more buildings

[clear mesa]

Alternate recipes might be a good idea to look into for your case

Especially if youre using rods for screws

[queen slate]

What is the conveyor for in an alien power augmenter?

[covert quarry]

how about both

[clear mesa]

alien power matrixes

[queen slate]

K ty

[clear mesa]

boosts its power boost from 10% to 30%

[covert quarry]

i need rods for screws, rotors, modular frames, and i bet way more on sooo

[sick falcon]

i like to overclock when needed to make the factory fit into a blueprint designer, but not otherwise

except for refineries bc they’re so big

[obsidian quail]

i presume overclocking uses up the resources needed for it, correct?

[clear mesa]

Theres amazing alternate recipes for screws and you wont be needing rods as much as you think after that :p

[clear mesa]

Yeah ratio of input to output increases 1:1

[queen slate]

Yep the number in the bracket is how much it will use

[obsidian quail]

good to know, thanks!

[clear mesa]

It's the power consumption that increases exponentially and not linearly when overclocking.

Except for power production which also increases linearly.

[covert quarry]

soo ur saying i can use something else to make screws instead of rods?

[sick falcon]

it just makes it go faster and use a lot more power

[clear mesa]

Iron ingots directly yes (if you have the alternate recipe)

[sick falcon]

cast screws my beloved

[clear mesa]

Find hard drives and research them in the MAM

[covert quarry]

thanks

any other alternates that are better?

[clear mesa]

They all serve some form of a purpose or another

[mystic urchin]

You can unlock a recipe to make screws directly from iron ingots, later from steel beams if you need a lot of them, and eventually you should find recipes that completely remove the need for screws

[covert quarry]

cuz initally 1 automated factory is amazing

[covert quarry]

thanks

[clear mesa]

There are only two which I would call objectively bad...but I feel like youll be able to pick them out 😁

[sick falcon]

screws in general my behated

[sick falcon]

which ones?

[mystic urchin]

My heavy modular frame factory will be set up in a way to not need any screws or steel

[clear mesa]

Biocoal + Charcoal

[sick falcon]

oh yea lmao

[queen slate]

I’m farely oblivious to the obvious so I might need a clue

[covert quarry]

i hope

[queen slate]

Ah yes makes sense

[sick falcon]

i have both sitting in my mam to keep them out of the pool

[queen slate]

Got the rocket fuel alt today

[clear mesa]

Nice!

[queen slate]

Yep very happy since I don’t have sitric acid thingy yet

[mystic urchin]

Is it worth to make automated miners so I don't have to constantly make them by hand...

[clear mesa]

Uh...probably not but if you enjoy automating for automation's sake then yes

[queen slate]

Did that today you don’t need a lot of them 1/m would be plenty

[mystic urchin]

I know, I am thinking about picking the recipe right now

[queen slate]

What the other option?

[covert quarry]

whats the purpose of creating weapons in the game btw?

[mystic urchin]

Rescan or copper rotor

[mystic urchin]

There are aggressive mobs

[queen slate]

Fighting annoying mobs

[clear mesa]

Wait until you enter the red forest

[mystic urchin]

Plus bombs can destroy certain rocks and most plants

[weary kestrel]

🕷️ who will not stop chasing you no matter how much you run

[covert quarry]

dw i'll just put foundations over it and build

[covert quarry]

js kill them😭

[queen slate]

Fr they got determination

[clear mesa]

You'd be surprised at how high they jump :p

[covert quarry]

i'll find a way 🙂

[mystic urchin]

And then the giant green spider jumps up

[weary kestrel]

My poor little shatter rebar takes too long 💀

[queen slate]

Especially the spiders

[brazen coral]

When you get refineries you want to have the leached ingot recipes, better payout per ore especially caterium

[sick falcon]

it’s not great unless ur only using the rocket fuel for fuel and not power

very nitrogen gas hungry

[fierce forum]

I have a level 1 miner I'm trying to put it on iron but it says invalid placement, what's going on

[queen slate]

Ik but I can’t use the regular one until I get nitric acid

[queen slate]

Is there a rock in the middle of it?

[mystic urchin]

Is there a node you can destroy on it?

[sick falcon]

same, but u should have nuclear at this point which should tide you over

[queen slate]

You have to break it if it is

[brazen coral]

You actually won't use nitric acid too many times, it'll call for just nitrogen in the alt recipe

[fierce forum]

Oh, I see

[queen slate]

I think I can get it but it takes a bit of setup

[clear mesa]

The fact that rocket fuel is a gas is enough to sway me over alone

[wide karma]

Does anyone wanna build stuff with me?

Dm me if you do

[brazen coral]

It flows better in the pipes but I've been told to package and unpack per generator or at least per pipe system , dunno how well that works xD

[wide karma]

If you want to play with me dm me pls

[obsidian quail]

once is enough bro

[clear mesa]

wow? how exactly? sounds excessive

[wide karma]

Says who lab

[blissful grove]

grass is flickering like crazy, what's up wit that

[brazen coral]

It does sound excessive, haven't done it

[clear mesa]

#1201555265942724758

[blissful grove]

running on highest settings

[brazen coral]

But if you have overflow fuel that's what that system is supposed to be

[spare cradle]

I would rather just straight pipe to the gens, and have an offshoot of buffers for storage or package and sink the excess

[sick falcon]

for some reason nuclear is really easy to set up

[queen slate]

Oh cool I’ll look into it

[clear mesa]

More than fuel?

Cause i'd argue not lol

[queen slate]

I still need to automate some things like high speed controller things

[queen slate]

I heard nuclear takes a while to set up mainly if u wanna dispose of the rods or let them sit in a container

[brazen coral]

Haven't setup my nuclear power yet only cuz I was crafting a couple blueprints to deal with uranium to Plutonium then to ficsonium while I have the resources to do so now

I've only been running off a fuel up until now

But I got the part 5

[clear mesa]

here

[blissful grove]

don't know how anyone can play the game like this

[spare cradle]

I plan on setting up turbofuel before I get to Rocket fuel

[brazen coral]

I mean at least the one benefit of the fixonium is that it has no excess waste, so that's the final product

[sick falcon]

yea i fit a whole uranium fuel rod plant producing enough for 8 nuclear plants in a single blueprint

[clear mesa]

Most likely because they don't, consider #1038092680493801533

[spare cradle]

Maybe... Verify your driver and verify the integrity of your game files first before anything else <3

[blissful grove]

no change, latest driver

[clear mesa]

sounds lovely

[brazen coral]

Turbo fuel I use mainly for my drones currently, but the alternate rocket fuel recipe doesn't use turbo fuel and is easier to work with in the blender

[obsidian quail]

consider that it is simply a you issue, you will need to fix your driver's most likely.

[spare cradle]

Did you verify the integrity of game files?

[clear mesa]

Well you need to anyways lol, it's a prerequisite

[blissful grove]

thanks, I'll see if I can get an internship at amd 😛

[blissful grove]

yes

[spare cradle]

I saw it on the wiki, sounds good

[spare cradle]

What card do you got?

[obsidian quail]

smarmy comments don't do anything, my system is fully AMD and i don't have flashing foliage.

[clear mesa]

forgot about this one nvm 🤦‍♂️

[queen slate]

Thanks I still think fuel looks like the better option for when I need more power but I’ll consider nuclear power

[fallow lantern]

is there a program that does the math for me when it comes to load balancers?

[clear mesa]

Yeah it can be a nightmare to dispose of "properly"

[queen slate]

I just searched up load balancer calculator satisfactory and it worked

Sry I don’t have a name

[clear mesa]

Also just implement manifold systems wherever you can instead tbh

Unless you need instantenous startup for some reason

[dense violet]

you might have too new a driver, a past, I think nvidia driver, was causing trouble a while back

make a #1038092680493801533

[brazen coral]

Currently I think I have like a total of 150 fuel generators overclocked working off of ionized fuel while slooping the rocket and ionized to do so. But it runs everything right now including like six overclocked particle accelerators

And quite a few of the quantum encoders

[clear mesa]

Maybe im wrong but wasn't it found to be extremely inefficient to use ionized fuel for power generation?

[queen slate]

Wow

[brazen coral]

It uses less per generator so how can it be less efficient?

Can pump more to the pipes

[dense violet]

because you could get more power from the generators by burning the RF instead of the ION you made

[brazen coral]

I mean it uses more advanced stuff and I have the alternate recipe for that which lets me use the dark matter crystals to streamline it

[queen slate]

I don’t think it is I think rf is just a lot easier

[dense violet]

although sloops are stupid and they do throw off the math

[clear mesa]

no it literally just gives less net power

since it takes so much to make it

[queen slate]

Oh I get what you mean now

[dense violet]

oh you know what? never mind

it's stil a power loss because you could have burned the Slooped RF for more power than you can the Ionised

[brazen coral]

I mean overall it lets you pump more into the pipes or pipe systems because rocket fuel on fully overclocked uses about 10.4 per minute versus ionized which is 7.5

[dense violet]

yes but you lose more in the RF to IO trade

[clear mesa]

The only upgrade would be to package it for vehicles or a jetpack

[brazen coral]

Which is why I slooped in and threw the math off

[dense violet]

no even slooped, you could have burned the slooped RF

with better power results

[clear mesa]

I believe it still is less even with slooped Ionised fuel

It's pretty stupid imo but yeah

[dense violet]

if they slooped the ion it would be different, but still a waste since they could have slooped the RF instead xD

[brazen coral]

Yeah, I think without the sloop it's not worth the trade-off but does even the regular recipe work? Or it's just not worth it at all?

[clear mesa]

Yeah either way it's still operating at a loss

[dense violet]

you said you slooped hte RF

you could have burned the doubled RF for more power than the ion you made with it

[clear mesa]

Whether he slooped the RF or IO

[brazen coral]

I did both

[fierce forum]

I'm glad this game is on console, shame the modding isn't, understand why tho

[clear mesa]

Both...wow now i wonder haha

[hazy void]

how do i get gas filters

[clear mesa]

Even if it is a similar value of power generation at that point it becomes a waste of somersloops

[dense violet]

!wikisearch

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=

[brazen coral]

I mean at that point I could have just built an alien power matrix in place of the somersloops it would make up the difference

[vague briar]

why doesnt it let me dismantle things

[queen slate]

Are you in a different dismantle mode?

[vague briar]

idk how do i change it

[clear mesa]

"For example, producing 500 units of ionized fuel per minute requires 600 units of rocket fuel per minute, which translates to 36,000 MW of input power, while the output provides only 41,667 MW of usable power, resulting in a net gain of about 5,667 MW—equivalent to a 13.6% increase over burning rocket fuel directly, but this does not account for the additional power needed to produce the dark matter crystals.

Even with the alternate recipe for dark-ion fuel, which skips power shards and uses dark matter residue, the energy efficiency remains poor. This recipe converts 24 rocket fuel into 10 ionized fuel, resulting in a loss of over 40% of the original energy content (86,400 MJ input vs. 50,000 MJ output), making it inefficient for power generation."

[queen slate]

Or maybe you pressed alt

[queen slate]

Are u on kbm or controller

[vague briar]

kbm

[queen slate]

R should work

[vague briar]

oh ty

[dense violet]

sure - but the point is you could have done the agumenters with the slooped rf for more power >.> RF to io is just a bad trade for power

[queen slate]

That might not fix your problem but that would be my first guess

[vague briar]

it worked

[queen slate]

Nice glad I could help 😄

[brazen coral]

I'll have to reconsider making ionized fuel, but does it have any other use to it?

Even like an alternate recipe for anything?

[clear mesa]

Vehicles and Jetpacks I suppose

[brazen coral]

For now I think I'll just package the rocket fuel and use that for all the drones I have going right now but still have to make turbo fuel cuz I like having turbo bullets

[clear mesa]

turbo is my go to for jetpack alone :p

[brazen coral]

Well, package it and split it between the injection points

[clear mesa]

the upgrade from regular fuel to turbo fuel on the jetpack feels like night and day for me

[brazen coral]

If anything, I think I go for rocket fuel because it just has more thrust power for the jetpack. I haven't actually tried ionized

[queen slate]

I might be way wrong but don’t ionized and lbf have the same use time

[brazen coral]

Either that or biofuel package because of the longevity

[spare cradle]

Im good honestly with liquid biofuel for how long it lasts

[queen slate]

Tied highest

[brazen coral]

It lasts an incredibly long time which is great for when you have hyper tube Cannon shooting you across the map

[clear mesa]

I crave speed

[spare cradle]

I can use that lil movement trick to speed

[placid stirrup]

Slide jump?

[brazen coral]

Slide jump on a belt

[hazy void]

how does ficmas work?

[clear mesa]

Dont even need the belt, just as long as it's not uphill

[clear mesa]

Advent Calender in the HUB and its own research tree in the MAM

Timed Event from Dec 1 - Jan 18

[brazen coral]

Put an uphill facing Cannon

[clear mesa]

Anything you make/place down you get to keep, crafting recipes disappear post Jan 18 until next Dec 1

[uneven edge]

Should I be automating everything

[brazen coral]

The goal is to try to yes

[hazy void]

but where, ive look through all of both and the tree is locked in the mam and i cant find anything in the hub

[queen slate]

Don’t see why not

[uneven edge]

But what rates of things

Liek metal plates 10 a minute ?

[queen slate]

It’s to the right of the tier unlocked area

[queen slate]

Do whatever u like

[clear mesa]

It should be right next to your crafting table in the HUB, the first day on the advent calendar gives you a hard drive to unlock the first part of the ficsmas research tree

[clear mesa]

The fun is in not knowing and figuring it out :p, need more? make more

[brazen coral]

I mean you can technically do it at any rate you want. You just have to do the math and math it out. Slow or fast. It doesn't matter depending on how quickly you want to go up in phases.

[hazy void]

omg im blind thanks

[uneven edge]

How much should I be storing

Like how many insubstantial storage containers of concrete

[queen slate]

Nah I found it hard to find at first too

[brazen coral]

Everything just keeps storing like a pack rat

[queen slate]

The more the better

[brazen coral]

More stuff equals more stuff to stuff into stuff

[clear mesa]

I like to keep a full storage container of everything, but some items you may find needing more often

[weary kestrel]

me who has a poor copper node absolutely bleeding at like negative efficiency because I wanted to make automated wiring without moving a proper copper supply to my coal 🤣

[uneven edge]

Alright thanks

[obsidian quail]

im trying to figure out the best way to get a sulphur node over to my coal rn. it's going to be so jank, i can't wait.

[queen slate]

People play the game differently lol as long as u having fun you can have miners producing 1/m

[brazen coral]

If you have a refinery, I would recommend getting the leeched copper ingot, a little better payout per ore

[queen slate]

Vehicles/conveyer best highways are your friends

[weary kestrel]

efficiency is a future me problem, for now I just wanted to get the ball rolling on phase... 2?

[brazen coral]

Phase 4 is when it gets super fun

[mystic urchin]

#screenshots message Would getting water from there to where I am with a train be good?

[obsidian quail]

i love conveyor belt highways so much. just let them fill up a cargo container at the other end and im a happy 6km conveyor belt user hahah

[clear mesa]

I hate having to set the paths for the vehicles ngl, would much rather just route a disgustingly long conveyor

[queen slate]

Yep lol imo unlocking new things is one of the most exciting things

[obsidian quail]

traversing the world like a monkey using the zipline tool is so fun

[clear mesa]

Is there a reason it wouldn't be good? I mean it definitely looks long

[queen slate]

Fair but seeing my train working hard makes me happy and proud 🥹

[brazen coral]

If you're trying to move water or any type of liquid pipe it as high as you can with pumps to get over stuff if you have the Mark II pipes/ pumps

Either that or make it where your factory sits on the water

Individualize

[clear mesa]

Trains thankfully are the exception since their routes are simple clicks

I just meant making paths with the truck

[queen slate]

Never used the truck yet and I’ve nearly completed tier 8

[mystic urchin]

I know how pipes work but I don't know if I should use a train to transfer water or just a long ass pipe

[queen slate]

Bring the items you need to the liquid if you can

[brazen coral]

I mean if you want a constant flow do pipes but if you're waiting on any type of fluid you have to have a buffer installed

[clear mesa]

I've only really used it when working with coal since otherwise it feels like too much of a hassle to integrate a seperate fuel source

[queen slate]

Fair

[mystic urchin]

I can, but don't really want to build the factory there

[clear mesa]

Train would be more pleasing to the eye, also would allow you to increase load at any time by adding a cart instead of another pipe section

[solar viper]

Can someone help me help me with a bug?

[mystic urchin]

Trains with a buffer I can do

[queen slate]

If you make one in https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533 I’m sure someone would be happy to help

[queen slate]

However I’m new to the game and tired so I cannot help you sadly

[brazen coral]

I haven't gotten the chance to use the fluid buffer on train cuz I haven't really transported any liquids, just one really long train with inventory slots

[queen slate]

Gn gng

[clear mesa]

If you're gonna go the train route I would also go 1 step above and route some plastic there to package the water since the regular freight can store more than the liquid

[brazen coral]

But yes, you can actually package the liquid if you're moving in like that

[mystic urchin]

I know about that, I only need 470 per minute, a regular fluid train should be enough

[brazen coral]

Or just put more fluid filling stations in that solves everything 😂

[clear mesa]

Hmmm for such little fluid I'd really want to find a closer body of water at that point

Barely worth the infrastructure, but I suppose if demand increases or you would like to use that pre existing line for other projects

[mystic urchin]

#screenshots message This is the closest but Idk if it's big enough

[clear mesa]

You only need to fit 2 water extractors for 470/min

[brazen coral]

If a train route does get too long though, or at least too long for one train to run around, just put two trains one of the opposite end of the track

[clear mesa]

Hopefully they would fit there haha

[brazen coral]

Hopefully they don't crash

[clear mesa]

just add signals and they wont

[mystic urchin]

Yeah I am not a beginner
I really only suffer with design but I know how the rest of the game works

[clear mesa]

Anyway, for such little amount of fluid id go trying that pond area instead lol

[mystic urchin]

Suppose I can test

[clear mesa]

Hopefully you can make due with that

[hazy void]

how do u get gas filters

[clear mesa]

Otherwise that infrastrucre wont be wasted anyway, could use it to transport large amounts of water for a nuclear plant 🤷

[brazen coral]

I get it, I have a problem with design and I try to compress everything into one box as much as possible even if it's visually unpleasant, but I like to see nice straight lines

[wispy osprey]

Can I make a 4-way rail cross intersection without a star shape opening in the center?

[mystic urchin]

Well the second one doesn't fit

It looked much bigger on the map

[clear mesa]

dang

[clear mesa]

this it is :p

[mystic urchin]

I wish you could post images here because posting in #screenshots and linking it everytime is annoying #screenshots message

[clear mesa]

I'd try to rotate it cause I feel like there just may be a way to somehow fit 2 but yeah a lot smaller than expected lol

[brazen coral]

When doing nuclear power, is it better to have the trains transport or is it faster for drones to transport the uranium? Given that the uranium is on four corners of the map or at least not close enough together to run a bunch of tracks everywhere

[weary kestrel]

lol I know exactly where that is as I had the exact same water problem 🤣

[clear mesa]

could you stick 2? 😭

[weary kestrel]

I ended up just placing a super ugly conveyor heading... 700m? north to the much bigger body of water

and moved the coal to the water like that

[feral swan]

Next time your building train lines just remember to make sure your outbound and inbound are right , don’t do what I just did 🤦

[mystic urchin]

It's not deep enough on the empty part

[clear mesa]

I mean if you had enough train carts, trains would always be faster even if they looped the map 4 times before getting to the destination

[clear mesa]

unfortunate

[brazen coral]

One of the larger bodies of water is off to the western coast lined off the Northwest if you're looking for a bunch, a bunch of water

[weary kestrel]

They are basically in the opposite corner of the map from the north west coast 🤣

[brazen coral]

Probably the one thing that's not close to that coastline is Crystal. I didn't find a whole lot of Crystal quartz

[clear mesa]

and alumina

[brazen coral]

Yes and alumina

[clear mesa]

or bauxite

[brazen coral]

Same thing but processed

[clear mesa]

yeah but that's what i should've said initially :p

[weary kestrel]

Everything is close if you convey hard enough 🤣

Though I'm still struggling to convince myself to commit to a massive conveyor set-up to start building an actual factory rather than my spaghetti nonsense ltttle outposts

[brazen coral]

Most of the bauxite I've currently found and imported just lies inside the red bamboo Forest

[grim estuary]

Does smelted iron give more in the awesome sink than just iron ore?

[clear mesa]

Im pretty sure that's where it all is

[brazen coral]

No, there's a couple outliers but that's the majority of it

[clear mesa]

The more processed an item, the more it gives

[clear mesa]

hah really? good to know actually

[tall plover]

finally ive completed my uranium fuel rod plant 🙏

[brazen coral]

I found quite a few up in the northern deserty region, I have no idea what that region is called

Not the dunes, the other one

[glass canopy]

how long dose a pump push the water foward?

[brazen coral]

Pipes do a forward push. Normally, you only really need the pumps for vertical

[glass canopy]

right

so im kinda stuck on how to do what im down

can i add a pump that shoots up inot a 4 waqy and that 4 way is connected to 4 pipes at all go up do i need more pumps?

[mystic urchin]

How many alt recipes are there?

[clear mesa]

113 alt recipes. 118 hard drives

[mystic urchin]

Do I need to unlock the main recipe of a thing to get an alt for it?

I am at 68 drives and I keep getting the same ones

[clear mesa]

Idk if it's the case for every single one but they're tier/phase locked at minimum

[brazen coral]

The pumps will pump as much liquid through the pipes as the max flow allows, The distance vertically will be highlighted when you're placing the pump so just pay attention to that but split the pipes off and see how it flows into those

[dense violet]

show an image of what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta

it'll be much simpler

[glass canopy]

done

[brazen coral]

@glass canopy

[glass canopy]

yi

[dense violet]

yes you won't get the alt for an item until yo ucan make the base in most situations

[mystic urchin]

No wonder I keep getting repeats all the time

I am still at phase 3

[brazen coral]

So as soon as you do that it should tell you how far the liquid is going up when you have the pump before the split

Hey, if the pipe's coming are either flat or coming down into the vertical pipes you shouldn't need any more pumps depending on how much further up they go.

[mystic urchin]

#screenshots message Huh?

I guess I should stop researching the drives until I progress because it's glitching out

[brazen coral]

Is there a guide to where all the hard drives are? That's the one guide I can't find lined at on YouTube or pretty much anything else

[clear mesa]

Use the interactive map instead to find them

[mystic urchin]

Satisfactory calculator website has an interactive map

[brazen coral]

Okay cool thanks

As for ionized, I'll probably still be producing a little bit of that, but at a much slower rate no slooping no overclocking, but what else do I use the dark matter crystals for now? XD

[wispy osprey]

#1458600785217720472

[brazen coral]

I think I'm still producing 450 per minute lol

[mystic urchin]

Sink them I guess

[brazen coral]

Also, why can't power shards be sunk? I've got a ton of them. I have a ton I can't do anything with since I started crafting the synthetic ones

I have tried to sink them. It won't take them

[mystic urchin]

Maybe so you don't accidentally sink a finite resource?

[brazen coral]

I mean it isnt finite after you make the synthetic ones but still?

[upper gale]

Back some time ago it used to be finite so probably just wasn't changed ever since

[brazen coral]

Fair enough, crystals to sink and a bunch of experience points for tickets

[mystic urchin]

You can't sink sloops and spheres either

[white dawn]

Can convert them to Packaged Ionized Fuel to sink that way, if you like

[brazen coral]

I mean those are definitely finite and are required for processing elsewhere

Yeah I'll just stop producing shards cuz I know I have enough just produce something else in its place like oscillators cuz I still need the dark matter

I think I'll keep that packaged ionized fuel if any case cuz I can keep producing the liquid packages. Jetpack or otherwise, something temporary until I get back all the way to rocket fuel production

Currently, what two recipes produce the most heavy oil and fuel? Like how do I get the most fuel production I can possibly get?

[vague briar]

what do computers do

[dense violet]

compute

[vague briar]

Are they a crafting thing?

[mystic urchin]

Everything is a crafting thing

[dense violet]

^^^basically

[vague briar]

I just unlocked them and I can’t find anything that uses it

[mystic urchin]

You need to unlock the recipes further in the hub

[vague briar]

Oh why did they even give the recipe then 🥹

[mystic urchin]

So you can make them now

Do you have trains unlocked

[dense violet]

I'm pretty certain the game between you getting hte recipe and having something to spend them on is basically nothing, just keep moving forward

[vague briar]

Yeah I think so

[mystic urchin]

Train stations and signals use computers

[vague briar]

I see

Well I’m too broke to craft those so afk is the way

[wide karma]

If someone wants to join me go ahead and dm me

[mystic urchin]

Set up automatic lines for every item as you unlock it

[vague briar]

🥹 not possible for me rn

[mystic urchin]

Why not

[vague briar]

My energy is cooked

And I don’t have the most efficient setup rn

[mystic urchin]

Make more energy

[vague briar]

🥹 technologia

I’m at like 900 power

[mystic urchin]

What is stopping you from making more

[vague briar]

I’m lazy

[mystic urchin]

Surely you have coal power unlocked, so make a couple power plants

[weary kestrel]

I mean depending on where you are, 900MW is okay, that's more than 8 coal generators 🤣

[vague briar]

I have 8 coal and 1 fuel gen

And the fuel has like 1 or 2 things for the overclock

[white dawn]

It's not unusual for folks to exit Phase 2 with anywhere from 16-64 coal gens, btw. :)

[vague briar]

What.

[white dawn]

And folks tend to build out fuel gens in the tens, at least. :)

[vague briar]

I mean I could do a full reset of everything I have and make it better

[mystic urchin]

I have 24 coal gens and 10 fuel gens all fully overclocked

[white dawn]

I generally don't recommend ever "rebuilding" or expanding existing things. Just build new stuff. Whatever your existing setup is can continue to do exactly what it's doing. Can just make more elsewhere. :)

[vague briar]

Well the setup I have is super scuffed

And I would like to move it onto a platform in the air

The power setup is fried icl

[tired cypress]

LOL, try flying right into the core of the power augmenter. ||it doesn't hurt but it sure looks like it does||

[weary kestrel]

I have.... 16, I'm just calling it a future me problem when I unlock oil and assume oil can carry me for a while

[mystic urchin]

Did that first thing when I built mine

Oil when done properly can carry into the end game

[vague briar]

Once I get back to my pc I’ll send a screenshot of the horrors I have created

[tired cypress]

Just today built the 60th of my planned 112 fuel generators

[weary kestrel]

fuel gens easy enough to blueprint?

[mystic urchin]

I am currently at 9360 MW but will need to make more soon

[hybrid nymph]

I am currently at 17187 MW

Is that enuff power?

[white dawn]

Only you can answer that question. All depends on how "big" you build

[unkempt blade]

for like a couple big-ish factories?

[weary kestrel]

Current plan of attack
Start phase 3 (phase 2 parts are being scuffly automated currently)
Figure out oil power
Start building an actual factory that's not completely brainrotten

[white dawn]

My usual recommendation is to overbuild power as much as you can stand. :)

[unkempt blade]

once people get to like rocket fuel consuming multiple oil nodes I think it's time to start evaluating if you'll actually use it soon/at all

but my 1.0 save was something north of 300GW when we finished the elevator stuff

[spare cradle]

I more simply partially decommission those lesser factories but still use them for building materials which they produce. Gutting the project factory from it and use the prior materials that it would produce for something else.

[white dawn]

I mean, you can if you want, but IMO tearing things down + rebuilding is often a great way to incur burnout

Just leave 'em exactly as they are and build new factories instead. It's a huge map, with more resources out there than many folks realize

[spare cradle]

I ain't tearing the entire building, just the parts that made the previous project parts.

[white dawn]

And if you just keep building new factories instead of rebuilding/expanding/tearing-down, you've got the added benefit that you're never beholden to any of your past "mistakes," since each new factory is its own thing

[spare cradle]

And in its stead put the higher tier materials that I need that use those other materials

[unkempt blade]

I don't go for all the independency purist stuff so I'd normally just send all the parts to whatever is assembling the next tier

[white dawn]

Sure, you can of course do whatever you like! :) (And many do that; you wouldn't be alone!)

I'm just recommending that you not do that, instead! Just building fresh and leaving your existing stuff as-is is, IMO, a lot less work. :)

[spare cradle]

It helps me logically think about some sections independently working for one part

Like I have Steel Fact #1, can't you guess what it produces for me?

[unkempt blade]

factory carts

[spare cradle]

Steel pipes and Steel beams.

[unkempt blade]

no wait those are bespoke handmade vehicles 🙁

[zealous urchin]

pretty sure factory carts

[spare cradle]

And so with ai limiters and motors, provided I have wire transported to the location, which has stopped.

Completely decommissioned trucks

[vague briar]

I’m at 900 🥹

[mystic urchin]

You need moar

[hybrid nymph]

Year of the cart? More like year of the coal 🤗

[vague briar]

Yes

[spare cradle]

I love peering off the deadly abyss when getting more steel beams for mk3 <3

[hybrid nymph]

Weak lol

[subtle swallow]

is there a way to change the max players per world from 4 to a higher number

[white dawn]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Sessions_with_more_than_4_players_(PC_only)

[hybrid nymph]

What tier are you on?

[vague briar]

Uh I just unlocked the trains and computers

[unkempt blade]

sorry that's not on the ficsit zodiac calendar until 2029

[spare cradle]

So Tier 6

[vague briar]

Yeah

[spare cradle]

I'm there to

[vague briar]

🥹 quite fun

[spare cradle]

I have built my first train track loop, though I need to make the factories that is on those lines

Instead, I will be using the train to travel to their locations before they will use that train

[wispy osprey]

Speaking of trains, I made a cursed full 4 way roundabout idea

[unkempt blade]

I won't stop you now, Frederick. I believe in your future train factories

[vague briar]

#screenshots

[spare cradle]

181 kmh at part of the line

-# SPEEEEEED

[gloomy tusk]

Anyone have the list of ratios for oil

[vague briar]

i have the best setup ever oml

[gloomy tusk]

I want to know the max fuel powered generators I can use with a normal pil spill

[white dawn]

The Codex will show you all the recipes you have unlocked, which will tell you the ratios you currently have available. o for the codex itself, or n for a search bar

[gloomy tusk]

Thank you

[eager harbor]

I just built my first motor farm after finishing phase 2 but it only makes 12 a minute is that bad?

[spare cradle]

Full over clocked or nah?

[spare cradle]

Nah

[eager harbor]

I was limited by conveyor speed

[gloomy tusk]

I can but I’d prefer not to

[eager harbor]

😭

[spare cradle]

Get Tier 6 man, fix that then

[eager harbor]

[white dawn]

You can use solvers like https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production to help with that kind of question, btw. Head to the Input tab, lock down the oil to however much you want, head to Recipes to plug in whatever alt recipes you have, then go over and "maximize" Fuel (or Turbo Fuel, or Rocket Fuel, whatever)

[hybrid nymph]

You're on tier 6

[eager harbor]

I just finished phase 2 dude

[hybrid nymph]

I'm almost done with tier 7

[vague briar]

yes check screenshots if you want to see my amazing setup

[spare cradle]

Then, I would say that 12 gens per pure oil pond

Then half and half for impurity

[unkempt blade]

you're amazing and talented and I believe in you to not sleep until you get to trains

[gloomy tusk]

12 per minute 😭

[eager harbor]

I have trains now

[spare cradle]

Better get to the hub and start on it

[eager harbor]

It’s 2 am and am still building this

[spare cradle]

... Get the better transportation

[gloomy tusk]

I think mine currently makes 60-100 per min and im on phase 2

[hybrid nymph]

A little bit spaghetti-like, This is your first playthrough isn't it?

[gloomy tusk]

Motors

[spare cradle]

If you are limited by conveyors

[vague briar]

yes

[eager harbor]

U probably got logistics 4 so ur not limited to belt

[hybrid nymph]

Yeah I can tell

[unkempt blade]

My faith in you was validated! You're still amazing and I'm a great motivator

[spare cradle]

Mine is like... 2 per whatever min when it feels like it

[gloomy tusk]

Nope

[eager harbor]

I got the cart btw

[eager harbor]

Impossible bro

[spare cradle]

Is it using mk4?

[wispy osprey]

This is a roundabout with 8 path entrance/exit

[unkempt blade]

it's like all my ficsmases are coming at one time

[gloomy tusk]

I have the ficsit mug in real life to maximise efficiency

[white dawn]

I'm kind of jumping off into tangentially-related advice, fwiw, but I'd in general advise against thinking in terms of "ratio lists" or whatever. So much depends on exactly what recipes you use, what belts/pipes you have available, node purity, how much you're willing to overclock your miners/extractors/etc... IMO just work the actual numbers you've got, with the recipes you currently have. Then you'll get the exact answer instead of hoping that some arbitrary ratio list happens to match your exact circumstances

[gloomy tusk]

I’m wondering if anyone made a calculator for that

Like input all of those variables

And it spits out the information

[white dawn]

See the link I sent you above for a solver. :)

[gloomy tusk]

Thanks

[wispy osprey]

I think 300 crude to 10 extractors is the standard

[unkempt blade]

there's some good stuff in #welcome if people actually read it 🙂

[gloomy tusk]

How does satisfactory run on steam deck btw

[obsidian quail]

pretty good, ngl. but i don't have a massive base like some people here.

[white dawn]

Apparently quite well! I think that even more than on PC you'd be better off expanding out rather than centralizing your factories all in one location, but apparently it's quite good.

[gloomy tusk]

Do people actually centre their factories?

I have it spread out

[white dawn]

Centralization is a pretty frequent tendency. :)

[fluid crow]

I have noticed my fps slowly going down the bigger by base gets 😭

[gloomy tusk]

I’ll send something in screenshots and can you guys let me know if it’s good

(Will be taken on phone sorry)

[white dawn]

As with so many things in this game, btw, what's "good" will depend entirely on yourself. Are you happy with it? If so: sure, it's good!

Other people's opinions of your factory don't matter; so long as you're having fun, you're doing it right

[obsidian quail]

tubes!

[gloomy tusk]

Yes

Very happy

Check screenshots

[white dawn]

Expanding across the map with smaller factories, instead of really huge single-location factories, can help with that, fwiw. Though at some point you'll start being CPU-limited no matter how you're spread out. If your FPS gets better when you move away from your big centralized factory area, then you'd definitely benefit from outposting/expansion. :)

[gloomy tusk]

What did you think #screenshots

[fluid crow]

it's still not bad yet imo. I will probably make less centralized bases in the future but being new to the game I want as much to mess with in one place as I can

[white dawn]

Seems fine? As I say, it's your own opinion that matters. :) I still enjoy building Central Storage, so it's nice to see some labelled storage containers. (Even though that's definitely a labor of love nowadays, what with Dimensional Depot)

[vague briar]

ok time to work on phase 3!

NVM

[white dawn]

Players of all levels of experience can benefit heavily from outposting/expansion. :) There's a vast handcrafted map out there, with all sorts of fun places to explore! It's almost a shame to only build factories in one place. :)

[lone aurora]

what can you do with mercer spheres

[white dawn]

Head over to your MAM and start researchin'. :)

(Relatedly: check your MAM frequently. Research anything you can. All sorts of great stuff in there!)

[lone aurora]

i did but after that i cant research anything else

[obsidian quail]

you'll find more things as you move forward

the game is very incremental like that

[white dawn]

Presumably you need to complete the top of the tree first. You'll be able to do more once you find SAM (which is, admittedly, often a bit hard to find)

Which starting zone did you choose?

(One caveat: you can't actually do anything useful with the spheres until you have Steel unlocked. If you're not at steel yet, don't worry about it. :)

[weary kestrel]

I sometimes forget exploring is a thing, 99% of my set-up is in grassy plains and even then its a very small segment of 🤣 and some coal gen from blue crater

[lone aurora]

desert but im trying to get power slugs rn

[white dawn]

For a more direct (though spoiler'd) answer to what you use the Spheres for: ||you can build Dimensional Depot Uploaders, which gives you a way to upload items to a "cloud storage" which your build gun can use. When you first unlock the Depots, the cloud storage is a bit anemic (only holds 1 stack of each item type, replenishes at 15/min), but can be upgraded all the way to 5 stacks + 240/min replenishment. Once it's fully upgraded out, and you have Depots set up for all your building items, it pretty much totally negates the "need" for anything like Central Storage||

[lone aurora]

can i not find sam in the satisfactory tools interactive map?

[unkempt blade]

I think you should touch grass literally any other biome

[lone aurora]

also how can you get rid of the gas thingys that emit that damaging gas

[white dawn]

You can

[white dawn]

Find sulfur, start researching it in the MAM. :)

[lone aurora]

alr i can blow it up then right

with the sulfur

[weary kestrel]

💀 I did not realize I could blow those up, I thought I was sitting on my hands until I found SAM for the gas mask

this changes everything about two things for me

[wispy osprey]

I didn't know you could blow them up until I used explosive rebar

Same with the stupid flowers that damage you

[white dawn]

(gas mask doesn't need SAM, btw; unlocked in the Mycelia tree in the MAM)

[wispy osprey]

SAM is alien tech

[weary kestrel]

sorry yeah I got my "unidentified blue objects" mixed up in my head

I was thinking of polymer resin which I also haven't found yet (I assume in phase 3 with oil)

[white dawn]

Yeah, Resin's mostly a byproduct in various oil processing steps

[wispy osprey]

I think its actually better to recycle rubber and plastic with resin byproduct

[white dawn]

Technically you can make the fabric necessary from just Mycelia, but to fully automate filter production, yeah, using the Resin alt recipe is what most folks go for

[weary kestrel]

Haven't found many hard drives just yet so my alt access is very limited

[wispy osprey]

I've invented a prefect roundabout

8 entrance/8 exit

[weary kestrel]

trains seem like a neat feature for moving materials, my tractors drive me insane

[vague briar]

MAN

i really need to fully reset and make a better factory

not fully reset but break everything

[weary kestrel]

why break, just move to a new location

that way you've got your existing nonsense still existing and producing

[vague briar]

its just easier to break everything then organizing it

[lofty orbit]

Hey, what do you guys think would happen if you were to summer sloop power shard a Xeno zapper and Xeno basher

Like with the summersloop just duplicate whatever you’re hitting and the power shirts with overload it to hurt more or would it just explode?

[zealous urchin]

shards would add raiton chakra to attacks
somerslop would add second attack that hits from the limbo plane

[sick falcon]

is rocket fuel or batteries better for drones

[ornate meteor]

Chat why can't I just build a bigger pipe?

[cunning glade]

Question what do t5 I think take too make

Maybe t6

But I don't think it goes that high

[versed cosmos]

rockey fuel is easier to make a lot of

[cunning glade]

Would be cool tbh if we had a giant pipe for bigger amounts of fluids over long distances

[versed cosmos]

i aint even made batteries yet thems complex

[leaden turret]

might take a while https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=weatherwax AND pipes AND author:66f2f421-4996-473b-b15f-8e29bbead9a6

[versed cosmos]

youre looking for trains

[cunning glade]

No like an actually thicker pipe wider

Cuz the pipes we have in game are small

[versed cosmos]

trains are the solution to this tho

[cunning glade]

Sure maybe but not what I'm talking about and not always

[ornate meteor]

Actually better question, why can't I make smaller pipes?

[cunning glade]

It would be cool if we didn't just have theese tiny week ass pipes

[sick falcon]

compacted steel alternate recipe seems really bad

10 per minute is comically slow

[cunning glade]

U can with infinite nudge I think

[ornate meteor]

You can shrink pipes?

[versed cosmos]

it is

[cunning glade]

U can upsize and down size things

So I would assume pipes too

[versed cosmos]

i could see like one use case for rocket fuel

[ornate meteor]

Is that a mod?

[cunning glade]

I haven't tried it tho

Called infinite nudge

[ornate meteor]

Oh well ig that makes sense

[cunning glade]

It's basically a vanilla thing the devs didn't get right

I don't really see it as a mod

[ornate meteor]

Well tbf I don't think the vanilla devs would intend shrinking

[cunning glade]

Maybe not that part

Buts it's nudging the main part is so much better

[ornate meteor]

I think it would be cool if we had like small pipes though and they would have less throughput

[cunning glade]

That's what I was getting at with the bigger pipes

[ornate meteor]

And big pipes with more throughput

[cunning glade]

For more flow would be cool

IDC if trains can do that I want cooler pipes

Anyways what are the last tier belts made with anyone know?

[sick falcon]

small pipes with less throughput would be really nice, remove a lot of valve jank

[ornate meteor]

That's what I'm saying!

plus it feels weird that every pipe I interact with is the size of me

[zealous urchin]

that is crazy

[hybrid nymph]

Hey guys 👋

I am planning on expanding oil or at least making another oil plant, and devoting all of the oil to power, I have 2 untapped oil sources at my current oil plant which can provide 600^3m of oil per minute

I found another coal source, should I setup a bunch of coal generators or make the coal into compacted coal for turbo fuel?

[zealous urchin]

do u just want to make some power or go all the way with rocket

[sick falcon]

do NOT use coal for coal generators once youve unlocked oil

use it for turbofuel and steel

[soft marsh]

After all my resistance to nuclear power, I think I am going to build a small nuke plant.

Maybe like...20 reactors.

[versed cosmos]

Get nitro rocket fuel and skip turbo completely!

Then turn your compacted coal byproduct into turbofuel for your jetpack or something

[sick falcon]

i dont think hes anywhere near rocket fuel yet

if he only has 1 oil plant and is still using coal generators

[hazy void]

does radiation from noobliesks go away?

[sick falcon]

is there any natural entrances to the pink forest or is it cliffs all the way around

[dim flint]

What resource do people feel is the most limited?

[ivory condor]

SAM definitely

[dim flint]

Why SAM? Don't you just use that to make other resources?

[ivory condor]

SAM usage can get quite high, as such the amount on the map can feel very limited

[dim flint]

What drives your SAM usage? T9 parts?

[ivory condor]

Yes, FFRs has high Sam usage also

[dry cradle]

Anyone wanna see the Satisfactory bracelet my friend made me?

[dim flint]

FFRs?

[ivory condor]

ficsonium fuel rod

[dim flint]

Oh yes. I'm a ways off before I plan on doing that.

I forget the math, is it actually worth it to make those, or just make more uranium with the SAM and sink plutonium fuel cells?

[hasty flame]

Im new!

[dry cradle]

#screenshots message

[hasty flame]

Neet

[spare cradle]

I need to create a barrier of power before I shut and switch to a turbofuel gen

[weary kestrel]

That is indeed a satisfactory bracelet

[rugged fiber]

and it has Ficsit colors lol

[spice spindle]

Uh....did they get rid of the ability to build vertical pipes?

[soft marsh]

I dont recall one but Im also not a map expert

[spice spindle]

I'm trying to build one going along the ground and up the wall but it's not letting me

[dim flint]

no

[upper gale]

Probably just needs more space

Or try different build modes

[spice spindle]

ah okay. it was making me choose the height first

[sick falcon]

how do you build vertical pipes i can never figure it out

i always have to make a pipeline floor hole in a temporary ceiling

[upper gale]

Might have to unlock the wall pipe thing in the awesome shop but I'm unsure

Or is it already unlocked by default I dunno

[coral marsh]

100% SAM, the vast majority of the nodes are impure, we need 3 or 4 more pure nodes and 6 more normal nodes scattered across the map, if the pure nodes get limited to underground like, very deep that'd be fine by me. We just need more of it

[dim flint]

I haven't found myself needing much SAM at all, except a little bit for Singuarity cells.

one impure node was more than enough.

[coral marsh]

Theres roughly 9-10 thousand per minute total sam across the map and almost 5 times that in coal, if we could use coal to make SAM with some excited photonic matter, id be happy

I'd be happy with it costing 500+ coal per minute and 400+ Excited photonic matter for 5 SAM tbh

[coral marsh]

I use 1 pure node to make flucuated SAM with an alt recipe and I also drone ship the reanimated section to my nuclear base but itd be nice to have more nodes

[dim flint]

for ficsonium?

[coral marsh]

Yup

[wispy osprey]

Nitrogen gas is for the most part, in very inconvenient locations

The "best" one is near uranium

[coral marsh]

For some fun, I got my Bf who doesn't play the game to chose one of the alt recipes to use.

[peak plank]

Whats y'alls favorite way to move resources?

[dim flint]

I'm not talking about how hard it is to get, I'm just talking about limited in quantity, though nitrogen could be up there.

[coral marsh]

Thats actually a good point

[wispy osprey]

Train easily, i know how to make an 8 entry/exit roundabout

[dim flint]

I'm slowly enjoying trains more, now that I can calculate how many I need without testing it out manually.

[coral marsh]

Drones and trains, I lean more towards trains since they can carry fluids

[wispy osprey]

They can store more packaged fluids*

[coral marsh]

True

But id like to be able to carry fluids/gasses on a drone unpacked

And carrying packaged requires unpacking the fluid or gas at the other end

[weary kestrel]

conveyors because I dislike the tractor and am only just finishing up phase 2 🤣

[wispy osprey]

When's patch day again? I want improved fluid transport now

[coral marsh]

The truck holds more than the tractor

[upper gale]

Just belts until I unlock drone

[coral marsh]

Oh the fluid truck right?

[dim flint]

I wish drones had better logistic options.

[coral marsh]

How do you mean

Like if 1 drone could visit multiple ports?

[wispy osprey]

Not only that but improvements to fluid cargo on trains

[coral marsh]

More storage per car?

[dim flint]

Yes. In general arbitrary routes.

[upper gale]

Can't go wrong with conveyors

[peak plank]

I do love me a good fluid train

[weary kestrel]

truck is phase 3, so not accessible just yet 🙂

[coral marsh]

Ahhh fair

[wispy osprey]

Packing/unpacking them is too strong

[dim flint]

wait, they're changing fluid trains?