satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Eh, my 3D design is more inventor based. Never really tried any sculpting in 3D 🤷‍♂️

[hazy void]

also after you complete the space elevator do you still recive objectives?

[sullen gull]

Nope

[hazy void]

damn that sucks

[sullen gull]

I mean, it's not bad. I say after a first playthrough, it then becomes a "sandbox"

[white dawn]

They haven't ruled out eventually having some kind of post-game goals, but no word on if/when that'll ever happen (or what they'd look like)

[upper gale]

There's 5 phases though and it takes a long time to do

[hazy void]

a incredibly difficult one

[sullen gull]

Where most of the worries about how much to create and such should be lessoned.

[sullen gull]

I mean, imo, the only "difficult" part is overthinking how much to create and such. Which alts to use, as well as the age 'ol "Where should I build?"

[placid stirrup]

I kind of want to try a speed run just to see what I can do. But first I gotta actually complete the game

[sullen gull]

There are mods for pc though, that can make the game much more involved or even to be able to continuously supply the space elevator I believe. Satisfactory+ is one I think.

[hazy void]

i havent even finished space elevetor 3 yet so all of this is way over my head

[undone citrus]

Make the game subnautica

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I assumed you were still early on. At this time, I'd say don't worry to much about late game stuff. Just concentrate on what you need for each milestone and the space elevator... And don't worry about making thounsands of items per minute. Just stay conservative and make 1-2 machine's work while you learn the automation side of it all.

[sullen gull]

You try out The Last Caretaker yet?

[undone citrus]

I'm not sure what that is

[leaden turret]

December 19th, 2019 Video
Q&A: Underwater Worlds?
https://youtu.be/QXK9y3pnWGg

just play subnautica

[hazy void]

im remaking a factory rn but its kinda hard to be motivated to do it when the task seems so daunting

[sullen gull]

Newer game that just released as Early Access.

[undone citrus]

Or make the game subnautica

Cause subnautica itself is boring

[leaden turret]

go on then: https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/6716454-experienced-3d-artist

[sullen gull]

Ahh yes, and also try not to worry to much about trying to rebuild stuff. Just take what you did and what you want to change, and build elsewhere.

[hazy void]

the whole thing was spagetthi and it all stopped working

[winged basalt]

Who else always starts new worlds and gets stuck and never beats the game, been playing since update 5 and never beat the game yet.

[undone citrus]

I have to rebuild or else it makes me have a stroke

Cause as I learn I realize I didn't do any math at all and just put outputs to inputs and said it's slow but works. Everything running in like 15% efficiency

[drowsy kelp]

Just don’t look at it directly and you should avoid most of the stroke-inducing effect

[sullen gull]

Not I. Started in U8, and have beat it three times since 1.0 release. Only thing I have not got yet is the golden nut. Saving that for when I am truely "satisfied 😏

[winged basalt]

Golden nut??

[sullen gull]

Yeah, first play through, early on, you'll definitely have that

[sullen gull]

Trophy that you can purchase in the Awesome shop for 1000 coupins

[undone citrus]

I started 27 days ago and have made it to phase 4, or basically there. Actively producing last phase 3 part

But I know what's coming

[sullen gull]

With an achievement that goes along with getting it 😛

[sterile blade]

Spaghettifobia options when?

[undone citrus]

That's why I rebuild

I already have a system with how I play

[sullen gull]

Phase 4, imo, is not much harder, SO LONG as one doesn't let the qty required for the SE sway them.

[upper gale]

Yeah same. Except I don't get stuck it's just I don't like how I built stuff so I start over to do better. Or just end up joining other people's worlds

[undone citrus]

I do my first rebuild for foundations obviously, then after that I rebuild every time I beat a phase

[sullen gull]

I used to do that. Now I just beeline to foundations and coal, and try to build things "right" the first time (Though, it ends up with me definitely not being efficient and spending WAY too much time on one build 😛

[undone citrus]

That's what I do. But I still need super basic automation to help unlock foundations

Im saying as soon as I get foundations I tear down the starter factory

Especially since it's pretty much useless

[sullen gull]

Half the time, I just handcraft all the first few milestones.

[undone citrus]

For me that's way too annoying

I feel like you save or at least equalize on time if you automate stuff

[sullen gull]

You're not sitting there holding the spacebar right? 😛

[undone citrus]

Im on console

But no.

[sullen gull]

Ahh, even still, should just be able to hit build once and it'll take off.

[undone citrus]

I'm aware

Doesn't make it faster tho

[sullen gull]

Isn't it basically the same rate as the base recipe for an item when handcrafting? Can't recall.

[undone citrus]

I prefer to be able to actually start producing other stuff, I get most stuff to at least 30/min early game so I can focus on real projects instead of hand crafting

[undone citrus]

But handmining the ore to even craft to begin with is super slow

Auto miners help

Sound just gets so annoying

[tired cypress]

lmao "how the heck did I jump with a machine window open? ...oh, a bean decided to clip into the floor directly below me"

[sullen gull]

Yes, there is that for sure.

[undone citrus]

Lol

I really wish I could just turn them off

But instead I nuke them.

[sullen gull]

Erm, you can't?

Oh, the beans.. nm

[undone citrus]

Yes

[compact flicker]

I always 'remove' them

[placid stirrup]

The best is when you can build a foundation on them right before they spawn in

They start tapping into the speed force

[strong fiber]

The speed force is crazy work

[versed palm]

WHAT?! server will restart in 60 mins? Aint i in Singleplayer?!

HUH?

[white dawn]

All the multiplayer framework stuff is still present in the background; even in singleplayer you're sort of technically connecting to a server (although AFAIK it's not even doing internal networking, but still)

So various things like that apply even then

[strong fiber]

A break from the factory… this cant be

i yearn to build giga factories…

I yearn for the satisfaction of automation

[white dawn]

1.0 streamlined that somewhat; prior to 1.0 it wasn't unusual for folks to end up spawning into their singleplayer games as a "separate user" if Steam/EGS was offline, because your user ends up showing up as a different user ID, etc.

[drowsy kelp]

Hunting down past you was always fun

[strong fiber]

We dont talk about the past

[white dawn]

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

[drowsy kelp]

Also, does anyone else remember rain or is that just me

[strong fiber]

It used to rain

[unkempt blade]

interacting with yous from parallel dimensions can tear the time space continuum!

[strong fiber]

But they removed it 🙁

[white dawn]

Heh, I remember. I'm hoping that's among the things which'll make it back in v1.2

[drowsy kelp]

Nah you just have to zap them a dozen times and they’ll disappear

[strong fiber]

I always gotta label things now because

Labeling is 👍

[drowsy kelp]

Labels are fun

[strong fiber]

If i could go back in time and tell myself what i was doing would cause issues later i would

Cuz i had to fix it all

[clever sandal]

merry year 2026 guys

im in the future

[white dawn]

Perhaps CSS will troll both the "bring rain back" and "add snow plz" crowds by implementing only sleet in v1.2

[strong fiber]

7 hours to go but balright

[clever sandal]

not in my country

[serene cargo]

what time line?

[unkempt blade]

happy hollandaise, time traveler!

[clever sandal]

gmt 2

[strong fiber]

theres a time traveler in the chat

[clever sandal]

the gta 6 will realese in november 28, can confirm

[strong fiber]

You are talking to the people of the past right now

[drowsy kelp]

How do you guys deal with stingers, I’m curious

[clever sandal]

imagine being in the small 25

this is the big year of 26'

[white dawn]

Technically we're all time travellers! (And if someone's not, they won't be able to respond anyway. :)

[strong fiber]

Spray them with homing rifle ammo until they collapse

[unkempt blade]

wooo bring on the year of the cart!

[strong fiber]

As soon as it turns 2026 i will be building a factory cart museum

[unkempt blade]

I bash them until they bash back too hard then I run away, hork some berries, and repeat as needed

[drowsy kelp]

I ain’t doing that

[strong fiber]

Then run from em

[clever sandal]

why wouldn't you build a train museum

[drowsy kelp]

Also i discovered a downside of arachnophobia mode, you can’t telegraph them because they’re flat pngs

[strong fiber]

too much space

[clever sandal]

don't care

[unkempt blade]

your loss, I feel like a jedi with a cardboard tube instead of a light saber jumping all around with my mechanical legs and jetpack

[clever sandal]

go for the skies

[serene cargo]

what time zone are you guys from? me gmt+1

[clever sandal]

gmt 2

[strong fiber]

oh really

i had no idea

[drowsy kelp]

No gas mask?

[unkempt blade]

also cats are just objectively scarier than spiders

[strong fiber]

No hazmat suit?

[drowsy kelp]

The big ones give out toxic gas

[drowsy kelp]

Those don’t protect against poison gas last i checked

[unkempt blade]

nah that's handled by the part where I run around and hork berries

[drowsy kelp]

When they just launch themselves at your face with no warning, yes

[clever sandal]

me neither

[unkempt blade]

yeah total cat vibes

[drowsy kelp]

Not even a cat can jump over 50 meters straight up

[clever sandal]

they should add Schrödinger's cat into this game

[drowsy kelp]

On an unrelated note, did you know the alpha/elite gas cat passed away

[unkempt blade]

and then it leaps out of the box and irradiates your face with its deadly uranium claws!

[clever sandal]

but how do you know if it even alive to do that?

[unkempt blade]

it's alive it just got superpowers from the radiation

[clever sandal]

or just has cancer

[drowsy kelp]

So does that mean the nuclear hog has cancer

[unkempt blade]

Johnny cured it, it just has superpowers now

[versed palm]

ah ok thx

12h to build my stupid little factory that is not even 100% efficient yet is insane

10/10 would recomend this game

[unkempt blade]

yeah but you're amazing and talented and I believe in you too

[lapis shadow]

I noticed I can learn a compacted coal recipe at the MAM but it costs me a harddrive? Does that mean that I had the possibility to learn it from a random hard drive scan? Like if I were to have gotten it from a hard drive scan then the recipe would be unlocked, thus that part of the sulfur MAM tree would be completed already?

[tall lantern]

no, it's not randomly obtainable

[primal obsidian]

tyhe people in this dedicated are so fast i started my RCU factory in phase 4 and now its phase 5 and they have completed sculptors already

[tall lantern]

IIRC the first few of those recipes used to be through general hard drive scanning, but they were too "important" (or "popular") so they got moved to the MAM instead, but still cost the drive

[fast ruin]

Im' currently producing 360 aluminium scraps and i just got the recipe for pure aluminium, should i swap for normal smelter instead of foundry? i look way simpler but i loose some output

[tall lantern]

up to you, what do you value more?

[lapis shadow]

I asked because I was worried that I could possibly be wasting drives by spending them on trees in the MAM and then getting the same thing out of scanning a drive later, but it sounds like that's not possible?

[tall lantern]

correct

[tall lantern]

^

[lapis shadow]

okay thank you

[versed palm]

Finally did Phase 1 lmao

took me ages x3

[cosmic adder]

Happy New year!

[teal geyser]

Must be nice, living in the future

[cosmic adder]

Im stuck in middle of future and past.

[trim sundial]

WAit...how am i uploading iron ingots into dimensional storage, i dont have a dimensional container for ingots

[green fiber]

maybe you are mixing them in somewhere

[gloomy tusk]

when do i unlock a better fuel then coal

[green fiber]

coal is the best coal generator fuel kinda (theres an alt but its kinda meh)

you can unlock better generators though - need to progress to Tier 6 though

[gloomy tusk]

coal is the best coal generator

what

[green fiber]

coal is the best coal generator fuel

Thats what i wrote, not something else

[median rain]

What are the alternates that are best for uranium/plutonium/ficsonium production?

[tired cypress]

there are better other fuels you can use in a coal generator, but they're not as good as coal. but you unlock other kinds of generator too

[true sonnet]

I wish, at least the Explorer, vehicles would map out where you've driven

[tired cypress]

you mean like draw a path on the map? that would be cool

it should be at least revealing the visited areas

[grizzled lotus]

are there no gas filters in the awesome shop?

[oak nymph]

Is the conveyor lift floor hole useful?

[tired cypress]

if you don't want clipping or big holes in the floor, sure

[oak nymph]

So I should buy ?

[grizzled lotus]

on the surface it looks cosmetic (||badum pish||) but it can actually help organizing factories if they're vertical. because floors/levels

[grizzled lotus]

I've used them and I found them helpful. in general you want to buy those schematics since they don't cost many coupons. other stuff that I found useful are the foundations made of concrete (instead of iron plates), the ladder and the staircase

[oak nymph]

Kk

[true sonnet]

yeah that

[primal obsidian]

almost done my 90x constructor manifold

[grizzled lotus]

are you just starting out?

[oak nymph]

Yeah

Just got coal power

[rain hollow]

Question does anyone remember how much a miner mk1 outputs on a pure node?

It's 120 right?

[jagged rivet]

Happy new year to my fellow UTC+ gamers 🎉

[honest raptor]

happy new year everybody

[fast ruin]

dang i just finished my nuclear power plant and got happy, then i saw what what needed to build turbomotor and cooling systems and i just sank to the bottom

[primal obsidian]

wait you can throw the zipline thing

what

my game is broken huh i just threw my zipline like a nobelisk

[split trench]

Happy new year pioneers !

[burnt fossil]

Happy New year 🥳

[rain hollow]

Wait you did what?

[primal obsidian]

i threw it like a nobelisk

and then it returned to me and my game fixed

[rain hollow]

Weird

Any idea how much a miner mk1 outputs on a pure deposit

It's 120 right?

[primal obsidian]

120/min

it says base rate in description so times it by 2x for pure and /2 for impure

[rain hollow]

Unrelated question, at what phase do you start making time crystals

[candid ember]

Tier 9...

Bro mentioned one of the most advanced things on the game 💀💀💀

[rain hollow]

I was wondering because I wanted to know when I could unlock synthetic power shards

[candid ember]

That's not of ur concern because u will find enough to slug and won't be a problem for veryyy long

[rain hollow]

I think time crystals are the only thing I need that I can't make right now

[candid ember]

Wtf why?

Whats ur tier

[rain hollow]

My max tier right now is 4

[rich flint]

forget just found an answer

[candid ember]

So u don't need time crystals

Look for slugs

[primal obsidian]

time crystals are at the end of the game basically

[rain hollow]

I know that now

[vague plume]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[primal obsidian]

cant wait to make 45x manufacturers

second playthrough so im making all my afctories bigger

[rain hollow]

Right now I should just be focusing on automating my quick wire production

I'm gonna over clock two smelters to 133.4% then split the outputs into two belts which will result in four belts of ingots each going into a constructor under clocked to 83.4%

That should be as close as I can get it

[versed palm]

Happy New year everyone!

[strong fiber]

I still got 6 more hours

[strong fiber]

They are literally end game items

after i get mk6 belts probably gonna make a big nuclear plant

Or a little one just to get experience making one

for my next play through when instead of a big rocket fuel plant i make a big nuclear plant

[wispy condor]

Happy New year !!!

[versed palm]

L in Chat for my First Death in my Save

after 33h

Ingametime

[pure snow]

whats a good spot for fused modular cores

[little finch]

Is there any way to remove the build gun trinket? I really don't want anything on it.

[dense violet]

the option would be in the custom section of hte hub

if it exists

[little finch]

Yeah I'm in that menu now, but it doesn't look like I can take it off. Thanks

[dense violet]

rip

[strong fiber]

Is it that big of a deal 😭

[dense violet]

Everyone has different values. I don't even notice them personally

[little finch]

Not really, it's just annoying that there isn't a way to get rid of it

[strong fiber]

Me neither

I don’t even notice the build gun

When im building

Im either in a menu or planning then i start mindlessly placing machines

[hollow spruce]

why is artificial lighting in this game so meh

[dense violet]

do you have global illumination on?

[hollow spruce]

no idea what that is

[dense violet]

a graphic setting

[hollow spruce]

where is that in the settings

[dense violet]

somewhere in video I imagine. Don't know off the top of my head

may need to restart game after, can't recall

[indigo pond]

anyone know the best area to find coal? i feel like every coal vein is 1k+ from where i need it

[dense violet]

most starting zones have spots with 3-4 coal nodes about 1km away

good for power.
otherwise they are scattered about. Tons on the map

[rain hollow]

Just finished automating quick wire

They should make it so you don't need to jump off and then back onto the wire when you reach a power pole when using the zipline

[dense violet]

use power towers?

or hyper tubes

[indigo pond]

is there anyway to get rid of those rocks that spout that toxic gas

[rain hollow]

Not unlocked yet

[rain hollow]

Also not unlocked yet

[rain hollow]

Nobelisks

[dense violet]

get to it then, it's almost like you get more functionality and tools with more tech

[rain hollow]

Yes, I know

I'm workin' on it EH

[strong fiber]

How does one create a hyper tube cannon

[rain hollow]

I think you line up a bunch of of hyper tube entrances from what I've seen on game it out

[indigo pond]

i dont have the weapon to be able to use those yet, any other way?

[dense violet]

you'll want to find a recent build on youtube. they break most updates

[rain hollow]

Don't think so, chainsaw doesn't work

And I recommend a gas mask

So you don't die

[strong fiber]

Dont the newer ones use intersections?

[indigo pond]

also dont have that yet lol

im cooked

[primal obsidian]

do it with mk.5 trust me

[dense violet]

no idea, don't use them. I think they're a dumb exploit

[rain hollow]

You know the luscious forest where rivers are?

[indigo pond]

yes

[rain hollow]

You know the grey tube looking things with yellow at the top?

[strong fiber]

You can research nobelisks in the mam in phase 2 you need steel pipes to make them

[indigo pond]

i think ik what your talking abt

[rain hollow]

Use the chainsaw to cut one down and it'll open the mycelia research branch in the MAM

[indigo pond]

your my hero

[rain hollow]

Same goes for sulfur which allows you to get the nobelisk detonator

Mycelia is for the gas mask

Sulfur is for nobelisks and the detonator

[strong fiber]

Also for hazmat suit milestone once u get there

Need 50 gas filters

[rain hollow]

Didn't know that, must be after finishing phase 2

Or beyond

[strong fiber]

Phase 3 or 4 iirc

Whenever you unlock nuclear

[rain hollow]

Probably 4

Because I'm pretty sure that's endgame power and there's nothing after that

@indigo pond Another thing, if you ever find raw quartz then you should mine it because the research branch it unlocks leads to blade runners which make you sprint faster and jump a bit higher so they're really useful

[indigo pond]

i alr have those

[rain hollow]

Noice

[indigo pond]

im new and this game fries my brain

weirdly addicted

[rain hollow]

A lot of its just MATH

[indigo pond]

ive noticed

[rain hollow]

am I the only one that finds mk3 belts far easier to make than mk2

[indigo pond]

i dont have mk3 yet but, mk2 are aids

i feel they are too expensive for early game

especially for how much you need reinforced iron plates

[rain hollow]

Mk2 and mk3 both don't cost much to make what you need to build them. It's making those resources in the first place that's the problem because of how long it takes. Reinforced iron plates for me took FOREVER to make. But steel beams were a lot faster and simpler

[indigo pond]

it takes me so ungodly long to make reinforced iron plates

[slender tide]

Happy New Year!!!

[indigo pond]

that and rotors

[rain hollow]

Modular frames are even worse

[indigo pond]

ive noticed that

are truck stations worth setting up

[rain hollow]

Don't know I never have set one up

I always just built belts along the whole distance

Miner to factory

I have a three floor factory that's gonna be 4 floors when I need to automate something else because quick wire automation just took up the rest of the space on the third floor

[indigo pond]

i do that rn but they intrest me for my coal gens

[rain hollow]

I got lucky with my coal deposit

[indigo pond]

i did not, im debating picking up and moving closer to them

[rain hollow]

It was on like a mountain kinda thing and I built a spiral up to the top and put down a miner and set my coal gens right at the bottom

[indigo pond]

i use that deposit that your talking abt, but im building a 3 story coal gen spot and that one node is nowhere near enough

[rain hollow]

How many gens are there going to be?

[indigo pond]

24 so far

[rain hollow]

I have three fully overclocked

[dense violet]

it really doesn't...and if you feel that way you're going to cry when you go up tiers

[rain hollow]

Running off the same miner

[indigo pond]

it really does for someone in phase 2 that started playing 2 days ago lol

[rain hollow]

Took me forever because I could never get the required items per minute right

[fast ruin]

phase 2 looks rought, then you hit phase 3 and then phase 4

[dense violet]

it's a 2 step process that just needs iron - no different from any other 2 step item

[fast ruin]

it's not about complexity it's about quantity

[indigo pond]

no shit but im still not getting the math right

[primal obsidian]

im underclocking for symetry

[fast ruin]

same for modular frames

[rain hollow]

I just let it be until I could get logistics mk3

Logistics mk3 made things so much simpler because my main problem with reinforced plates was how many I needed for belts

[dense violet]

they also don't take much iron?

and work your way backwards to your output goal

10x rips pm needs 60 plates pm 120 screws pm
and so on and so on

[fast ruin]

the only thing that hurt me is that mk3 belt are 270 instead of 240

[dense violet]

keep running into this problem unless you manage it properly - break systems down into smaller groups.

[green fiber]

its quadratic scaling, not plain x 2 scaling

[hasty stump]

this has saved me a few times, how can it hurt?

[south sinew]

mk3 belts are quite cheap and better than their tier so really a strong belt

[green fiber]

mk 3 being 270 works better for steel which has multiples of 45 scattered around

[fast ruin]

fair enought but going from 60 then 120 and late 480 but having a 270 in the middle is painful

[jagged nymph]

fr

[rain hollow]

It's not much of a problem anymore since I use mk3 belts now and I don't need a crazy amount of reinforced iron plates anymore

[indigo pond]

my factory is flooded with yellow lights

[green fiber]

well then fix em

[indigo pond]

if i could figure that part out i would lol

[rain hollow]

That annoys me because it doesn't follow the pattern

[dense violet]

no but your belt limits will always highly impact your layout designs - and that's part of how learning to managing screws goes. They are very easy to manage even with mk2s if you just split the feeds of them into multiple sections

this will be an issue as you go along the game

[rain hollow]

Like lights you built, or just randomly appearing light?

[green fiber]

it follows a pattern (up to a point)
belt mk ^ 2 x 30/min
(mk 1 is an exception because 30/min belts would be cringe)

[indigo pond]

nah my crafters and shit lol

[fast ruin]

i wish i had splitter where i could program how much each output send

[dense violet]

don't put more than 240 on the belt then, you'll get the same effect

[dense violet]

you do

[fast ruin]

nope

[dense violet]

sure you do. Everyone does

[indigo pond]

mk2 is 120 pm?

[dense violet]

its called
'clock your machines and merge them as needed'

[fast ruin]

it's not the same thing

[rain hollow]

I wonder how much quick wire I'll need to switch all my power poles over to mk2

[fast ruin]

achieve the same result bybeing way more complicated

[dense violet]

same effect and doesn't cut out 90% of design challenge

[dense violet]

clocking is the core logistics management tool you have in the game. Use it 🙂

[rain hollow]

The first floor of my factory is the most cramped so it'll be the most annoying

[dense violet]

it fixes basically every issue before it comes up if you use it right

[fast ruin]

having to fill up manifold or making overcomplicated balancers

i can't undercloack

or it's already done

but splitter always split in 3 or 2 depending on how much output

[green fiber]

well thats the best tools we have and likely will ever have

[dense violet]

? manifolds take no effort. Let it rip and go do something else

or manually feed some stacks of items if your brain can't handle wait time

[fast ruin]

it's not about effort but efficiency for manifold

[green fiber]

manifold is efficient

the only "inefficiency" is that you have to wait longer

[rain hollow]

I just remembered something a I did that majorly helped my rotor and reinforced iron plate production

[green fiber]

because more items lie around inside machines being "useless" but that doesnt matter much considering the miners never run out of stuff

[dense violet]

manifolds are 100% efficient. No idea what you're on about

[rain hollow]

I had separated production for reinforced iron plates and rotors from the production for screws, plates, and rods. So I had one miner going to the base components on the first floor and then two other miners going to the second floor to supply ore the rotor and reinforced plate production

That let me have enough screws to keep production going when needed

[fast ruin]

100% efficient aka sending 2/3 of the production into 1 machine and starving the rest of the line for dozens of minutes if not more until it ack up

thats not being efficient

[green fiber]

yes.
that time does not matter because in the end it will be efficient

thats the manifold trade.
you trade time-efficiency for space efficiency

in the end the factory will run just as well

but it will be delayed

[hasty stump]

also you often gain brain-efficiency by not having to load balance weird ratios

[fast ruin]

and thats why i wish for a splitter where i can set up quantity to use what i need and not just "fill it up until overflowing"

[green fiber]

and we likely wont get it because devs said no

[south sinew]

indeed, they hate quality of life

[green fiber]

solving that annoyance is a task they solely shoved onto us and said "go figure it out"

[ocean frost]

The best you can do is use an approiate belt

[fast ruin]

there is no 12.5 belt or 30 belt

or 45 for e

or the well known 500 belt for screws

[hasty stump]

achieve 30 belt by using a second splitter and feeding the unwanted part back?

[south sinew]

even if there was such a belt it would be too much hassle compared to just using autoconnect blueprint with the same tier of belt everywhere

[ocean frost]

I would recommend a refund if that's the experience you are after

[south sinew]

I think by the time the player realises that manifolds have no good solutions it's a bit late for a refund

[fast ruin]

i like the game, just not having automation and being extremely inneficient i painful

[ocean frost]

Not really you just need to ask steam nicely

[green fiber]

i dont think that the manifold issue will the the first thing that would make a player refund

[fast ruin]

like having to sink a lot of items. Also nice "just don't buy game lul" attitude

[rain hollow]

How many points do alien DNA capsules give in the awesome sink?

[fast ruin]

1000

[green fiber]

they have their own point counter bar too

[true sonnet]

I feel like it's higher

[south sinew]

"just don't buy game lul" can be a reasonable thought, but it's on the game to make the relevant design aspects clear early on, and the intricacies of manifolds being painful is definitely not one of them

[ocean frost]

also its the steam summer sale play something play someting fun

[true sonnet]

idk maybe just be my brain short circuiting

[rain hollow]

I knew that but I never actually put any in the sink before now

[south sinew]

They're worth a lot of points, due to not increasing very fast and increasing separately to the primary item counter, so if you can spare them, sink them

[hasty stump]

don't forget you can quadruple your alien dna by using sloops to convert meat -> protein and protein -> dna

[green fiber]

as with like 90% of gameplay mechanics in this game, its left up for the player to discover.
No tutorial on that.

And i feel like that "no real guidance for thsese things, left up to discover" is one of the reasons that would make players step away from the game / refund it earlier as that part doesnt get better

[fast ruin]

i don't mind complicated stuff but i come from another gamer (oxygen not included) and part of the production/use of ressources in that game is optimizing and rationning to use only what is needed

like my train are running from base to base sometime carrying stuff that is gonna get sinked cause main base is overflowing and it feel like a huge waste

[hasty stump]

most resources are infinite, no real need to ration - fiscit may not waste but i certainly do

[green fiber]

Ok but thats kind a different game mindset applied to a game where it doesnt matter
In ONI, i assume its about being efficient with each item
In Satisfactory, only the rates matter. the Individual items have no real worth in that sense as you endlessly create new ones

[ocean frost]

I think with how the game was developed with EA the og players didn't need a tutorials since the game grew with them.

[south sinew]

I would say that's not exactly true with manifolds being a good example; you endlessly create new ones but you still pay a significant price in player time for doing so

so being efficient is still quite rewarded

[gritty sleet]

Agreed, that mindset is also important in Factorio, since resources are finite, but doesn't apply to Satisfactory as much, aside from your personal satisfaction at achieving 100% efficiency, if that's something you want to strive for.

[green fiber]

Yeah the only price you pay is time.
Meanwhile, if you tried to solve that time inefficiency, your alternative is the "balancer" which takes longer to build and takes more space.
Or like careful clocking of machines so their rates more closely match

[south sinew]

you say "only" but it's a very substantial cost IMO

[green fiber]

You save time here and lose it elsewhere

[south sinew]

and producing balancers or clocking are also pretty costly

[fast ruin]

even in ONI some ressources are infinite, but that doesn't mean i'm just gonna waste it for no reason

[green fiber]

In the end, you have to pay with something

[green fiber]

In this game you are kinda expected to endlessly waste stuff.
thats why the sink even exists. To keep factories running at any cost

[hasty stump]

blueprints can make long manifolds a lot less painful to set up, esp now with auto connect

[south sinew]

Yeah that's kinda the fundamental issue; I don't mind solving the task one time or a few times, but solving the same task over and over and over again is a no-no, and something like a balancer is a good example; the blueprints are kinda too limited to have a balancer blueprint book I can just click into place

[green fiber]

Though again, you dont waste item rates with balancers. You only waste the initial time filling it.
aftwards, items in = items out and nothing is lost

[rain hollow]

I only ever found one and I put it into the MAM

[hasty stump]

you should be able to scan for them now, there's a lot less of them than slugs but still a fair number (around 100)

[jaunty jewel]

happy new years factory workers

[fast ruin]

i would swap most of manifold to sushin belt if only i could properly manage quantities on belts. I tried one with copper and aluminium to reduce to 1 belt instead of 2 but i couldn't get the correct ration of aluminium and copper on the belt which meant it always ended up backing up at the end if i didn't put a sing

[dense violet]

again, sushi is very easy and you can do that, you just clock the previous step to put what you want on the belt

you seem allergic to clocking

[fast ruin]

i can't clock a storage

[rain hollow]

I haven't used the item scanner in a while so I didn't notice but I'll see if I can

[dense violet]

yup thats why you do sushi from machines or do some expert design to use what's coming out of a storage

[jaunty jewel]

thats not the point, obviously you cant sushi belt a mk5 when you have 2000 resources going onto it

[dense violet]

Some things are harder to do than others - you make design choices for your preferences

[green fiber]

and thats why in the end (i assume at least) most just say "screw it, manifold it, it will work in the end" and use that time inbetween to just build other stuff

You can always be efficient with your time by doing other things while something else is doing stuff

[south sinew]

I would like to, but the other game systems don't really support that

there's not much to find in exploration and you can't exactly buffer up stuff and then bam out milestones on the hub because of the pointless wait time

[molten minnow]

screws? where??? /j

[hasty stump]

any downtime is a great opportunity to go visit the spiders

[south sinew]

there's just often not really much to do

[gritty sleet]

Literally only thing I haven't manifolded is the radioactive stuff, to avoid too much building up inside machines.

[dense violet]

and that's totally optional too

[green fiber]

you can always go build something else or check up on stuff.

[gritty sleet]

Yep, just self-enforced "rules" I've given myself within the confines of what the game permits.

[south sinew]

I often don't have anything else that needs building or checking up on

[placid stirrup]

Exploration has a plethora of benefits
You can plan your next factory
You can visit previous factories to see how they're doing and optimize/fine tune if needed

[green fiber]

I dont think ive ever gotten into the situation where i really dont have anything to do other than wait for some reasearch / milestone to finish

[south sinew]

Exploration gives you nice items, it's just very boring to actually do, so I'd much rather skip and just use AGS for sloops and stuff

[molten minnow]

AGS?

[south sinew]

cheats, basically

[robust nova]

Hey all. Might be a dumb question. But if my water need is 360, but only have 300 pipes. If I produce the extra amount does the lack of pipe size matter? Trying to plan my initial coal plant. Just mk2 belts and mk1 miner atm

[molten minnow]

doesnt SF have basically creative mode anyway?

[south sinew]

as for planning the next factory, you can't really do that since you need the parts you're going to unlock from the hub often, so you're just vaguely imagining your next factory instead of actually planning it

[molten minnow]

unless AGS is basically that

[fast ruin]

find hard drive pod. Look inside: need item i don't have on hand while being kms away from base

[south sinew]

if you produce 360 but only 300 can fit you will get only 300, that's it

[hasty stump]

yep the pipe size will prevent you from naively just manifolding the 360, but you can feed the pipe from both ends (and the middle too, if needed)

[south sinew]

yeah, there are several multi-pipe designs that solve this problem

[green fiber]

If your pipe can only move 300/min you cant squeeze 360/min through it.
you need to adjust your pipe network and insert fluid from multiple points.
Pipes have throughput limits, junctions dont

[south sinew]

one of the reasons I DD everything

[robust nova]

Ahhh ok thanks all

[hasty stump]

yeah with DDs, the only "item i don't have" that is problematic for hard drives is power

[molten minnow]

since theres a max amount of DDUs you can have, what do i absolutely put in there? can i put everything i can in one DDU each?

[hasty stump]

even then you can just build some biomass burners

[south sinew]

you can usually spring some biomass burners and something to burn temporarily

[jaunty jewel]

universal satisfactory experience

[south sinew]

there's enough spheres for like 2-3 DDs per item so don't worry about it

[molten minnow]

fr???

[south sinew]

1 DD per item is quite reasonable

[molten minnow]

like every item in the game?

[south sinew]

and some of the most common ones like copper wire I doubled up on

[hasty stump]

2-3 for stuff like concrete and plates and steel beams, comes in pretty handy

[south sinew]

you probably don't need a DD for stuff you gather manually only, but you probably could do one for all of those if you wanted to

it's like 150 spheres or something if I recall

ah no, 298 spheres

so yeah safe to say 1 for every item will not be a problem at all

[molten minnow]

even the stuff i really dont need in there?

[hasty stump]

can even probably afford to do all the depot upgrades and still have 2-3 depots per item (i've never actually done that though, so not sure)

[south sinew]

you can upload manually from your inventory for free

so most things you don't really need in there you don't need to pay a sphere for anyway

and yeah, 300 spheres is way more than enough

the only price is the time it will take you to actually go and find them

[molten minnow]

well i know what im gonna be spending my year on lol

[old grotto]

Is there a limit to how many nobelisks you can lay before detonation?

[green fiber]

you can try and find out

[old grotto]

If there is...Im sure it's a high number. Just wondering if anyone already knows

I'm imagining watching a chain reaction and the result being the complete deforestation of the red forest in one click .....

[hasty stump]

wiki says the limit is 255 for a single detonation

[old grotto]

Ohh ok

[hasty stump]

which would still be quite an explosion

[old grotto]

Still a good chunk

They sadly don't detonate at once...but in a chain

[hasty stump]

ah i never really noticed, haven't done more than maybe 4-5 at a time

[old grotto]

I'd imagine nuke or cluster being much more effective than regular ones

[hasty stump]

clearing out the red forest even if it takes a few iterations, would be pretty impressive

[old grotto]

There's pioneers playing who's main goal is the complete deforestation of the entire map

[dense violet]

I've seen people crash their game doing so and being unable to remove them so I'd be careful

[hasty stump]

would be cool if you could blueprint a grid of nobelisks to make it easier to lay them down in bulk

[old grotto]

That'd be cool

Or decrease the "reload time"

Reloading nobelisks is the most annoying thing in the game

[hasty stump]

well, maybe aside from reloading rebar while trying to dodge a charging alpha hog

[jaunty jewel]

nah thats fun as hell

[old grotto]

Or the fact that it prioritizes reloading nobelisks over what your trying to click

[hasty stump]

fun but nervewracking haha

[jaunty jewel]

i will always circle back to my rebar fight against several alpha/elite stingers in the swamp

[old grotto]

I'm a sad pioneer who plays on passive and keep items on death

[hasty stump]

ooh, taking on alpha stingers with rebar is tough, i've died more than a few times

so satisfying when they finally die though

[old grotto]

I'll play aggressive once I'm 1000hrs deep

I'm at 15days of playtime so far on Xbox

[jaunty jewel]

some of the most fun i had in this game

[jaunty jewel]

ahh xbox your handicapped by controller i see

[old grotto]

Yea and the fact we don't have that info bar to type in calculations

Or manually enter numbers into the machines

[jaunty jewel]

thats crazy i couldnt live without that

invest in a mouse and plug it into your xbox

[old grotto]

We have a slider that you can slide to the 100th of a whole

So 120.03

For example

Mouse n keyboard support don't exist yet on xbox

I tried

Its in the works

[hasty stump]

if i can't enter actual formulas like (8/9)*100 then thats no good

[old grotto]

I do the formulas on my phone then enter the output number into the machine manually via a slider to the nearest 100th or .00

[feral swan]

35 hours into console and I’m loving it , just got oil and started making some rubber and plastic and I didn’t expect them to be so fun

[old grotto]

Satisfactory tools on mobile is ok. I wish there was a better app to edit layouts like on PC

[hasty stump]

good thing you enjoy making plastic and rubber, you'll probably need to build a lot more of it

[dense violet]

Someone once said you you use the d pad to tap left right on the actual number you want to change it lets you? but cna't confirm, not on console

[old grotto]

Rubber and plastic tend to be byproducts made from my power plants and shipped where needed

[hasty stump]

finally getting around to unlocking turbofuel in my current playthrough, that's when the game really starts tbh

[old grotto]

Can confirm. It raises/lowers the output amount by one unit per click...you can fine tune it better by pressing X on Xbox and using a slider to go to the 100th of a unit

[old grotto]

I bum rushed to rocket fuel and drones within 30 hours so I don't have to mess with trains.

Went from a 5k Me coal plant to a 72k MW rocket fuel plant. Skipped fuel and turbo

[hasty stump]

i'm considering doing the same, i haven't even started building choo choos yet but i'm putting together blueprints for it

[jaunty jewel]

the game begins when you get coal power down, really kicks off when you get oil imo

[fallen viper]

Anyone else drinking a cup of coffee out of their ficsit coffee cup while also sipping their cup of coffee in game above their factory. No only me😭

[hasty stump]

yea pre-coal is a completely different game, constantly worrying about biomass is no fun

[old grotto]

The game starts for me when you have everything up to the blender and particle accelerator unlocked

[jaunty jewel]

i get why it exists but man, just let me play the game i dont care about no "fuse blown"

[old grotto]

@fallen viper I keep telling my gf I want a Ficsit cup

[feral swan]

Yeah I figured, it’s set up for fuel currently and that’s where im getting my rubber and plastic from

[old grotto]

A big one

[jaunty jewel]

my bad for trying to explore for 5 minutes

[fallen viper]

@old grotto I got mine for Christmas lol, you know you’re not a kid anymore when you get excited over a coffee cup 😂😂😂

I got the big one as well

[hasty stump]

i should get an actual ficsit coffee cup, is it well made? i've bought ones for other games only to have the logo fade and eventually disappear in the dishwasher

[old grotto]

Lol I have a gigantic Reece's PB Cup..cup...lol

[dense violet]

I'd probably look up reviews. A number of the products from the merch shop have not been... good.

[fallen viper]

This one says it’s not dishwasher safe but its a handmade pottery cup, you can tell someone handmade it, but it’s not bad

Like the art on it is really good. You can just see the little imperfections.

[hasty stump]

oh hm, maybe i'll just get one and use it as a decoration then

[dense violet]

is the cup actually ceramic? that's a surprise. Thought it'd be really cheap plastic

[fallen viper]

Nope, it’s a real ceramic cup

[dense violet]

I've heard the gold one is not microwave safe.

[molten minnow]

pre-automatable burners:

[fallen viper]

Yeah, not microwavable or dishwasher safe

[old grotto]

Imagine how many the pioneer would actually break if they were ceramic...I fly into walls all the time with it out

[hasty stump]

i can't remember if ever even played before you could belt them, that must have been miserable

[molten minnow]

yeah that was awful to say the least

[old grotto]

The real Ficsit cup would be self filling, self heating...since you never have to return to the hub to refill it

[molten minnow]

eternal drink

[fallen viper]

😂😂😂right and I like how they added the coffee machine, but don’t let you put your cup under it to refill it

That legitimately bothers me😂

[old grotto]

Same

[hasty stump]

real life dimensional depot for coffee, i would pay a great sum for that

[fallen viper]

Amen 🙏 to that

[old grotto]

I had to cut my coffee intake down as my body is starting to get a caffeine sensitivity

[fallen viper]

Ever tried every day dose

[old grotto]

Had a 20 year redbull addiction

[fallen viper]

I switched to that about a year ago

[dense violet]

nah, it's just your robot brain programed to think you're actually drinking from it

[old grotto]

We aren't robots...we are clones

[dense violet]

that's what your robot brain has been programed to believe 😛

[fallen viper]

We aren’t even we’s we’re their property

[old grotto]

There was old mechanics removed from the game that had hunger m thirst

Didn't make it into the final game

[fallen viper]

Yeah, coffee stain said they wanted to get away from the survival aspect, which I understand

Can’t spend six hours building a factory if you gotta eat 50 times

[old grotto]

Game story that didn't make the game is we are clones of the Ficsit CEO and Founder

[fallen viper]

Wow makes sense actually, think about it we build a factory from the ground up alone so advanced by the end of the game that Ada’s shit in her pants

[old grotto]

I'm still processing the ADA story...the conversation with the song artist (sloops/Mercer spheres) is cool. Every time I restart I understand the conversation a bit more

Eventually I'll Google the meaning of it all

[dense violet]

It's a real shame they basically hacked out the entirety of the planned story

[old grotto]

Yea...which is weird

It didn't take away from the goal in any way

[molten minnow]

they what???

[dense violet]

they had to make compromises
we don't know how developement was going

[old grotto]

The game itself is tiny as far as file sizes go. Just under 10GB. Space wasn't an issue

[molten minnow]

heh, space

[dense violet]

originally there was a whole planned 'story'
My impression was think subnautica kinda? more involved. But the ybasically hacked it out

[old grotto]

Lol

[fallen viper]

Construct automate explore exploit. All the story I need😂

[old grotto]

Omg Subnautica is one of my fav games ever

[dense violet]

like the story in subnautica was important , but it was mostly about exploring and seeing

yeah I really liked subnautica. I keep wanting to make a big base in it but always lose the drive as it's a bit pointless

[old grotto]

I have a major case of thalassophobia...and that game scares the ever loving shit out of me.....so I put 2000 hours into it 🤣

Love me a good deep sea diving game

[molten minnow]

damn, that would be cool to see

[old grotto]

I'd never actually do a deep sea dive...I'll leave that for the dudes with balls

[dense violet]

I'm still hoping someone does an overhaul like SF+ mod and adds a water biome xD

[fallen viper]

Damn, they don’t have a chat in the server we can sit in

[vale quail]

Don’t forget kittens and puppies 😆

[fallen viper]

@vale quail can’t forget about the kittens and puppies man😂 because that’s totally who we’re doing this for clearly🫡

[fast ruin]

does anybody use programmable splitters? what the benefit over smart splitter?

[oak nymph]

How do I send 67.5 ingot into 2.25 constructor?
How can I split it to be 67.5 what are the alternative

[sullen gull]

They allow for setting an output for multiple items instead of just one

[sullen gull]

Do some math and round for whole numbers by setting the clock rate on the machines.

As far as the 67.5, You can just send that on a mk2 belt to 2 or 3 splitters in a manifold and it will evenly split between the machines.

[versed cosmos]

use a manifold

[strong fiber]

Useful for sushi belts i guess

[dense violet]

in general you only want 1 item output going to one side and over flow the other so not really

sushi balancing though? yeah niche use for progs

[molten minnow]

is there no way to have the diverted path of the hypertube branch be the default one ?

[cunning glade]

I made a blueprint

It's a simple row of splitters with one higher for assemblers

But like for once I made one after nearly going insane

But it's like 3 at a time so it's much faster

I now want MK2

[ocean frost]

just rebuild the branch

[fast ruin]

i'm looking at phase 4 elevator material and i can already feel some pain

[cunning glade]

It's not that bad I'm going for 30/m nuclear pasta

[fast ruin]

i just unlocked nuclear pasta, but the single nuclear reactor for now is enough

i can maybe triple it

but the amount of different lines of craft i need for phase 4 mat is gonna fry me

oh

pain

[dense heron]

Is there a good way to lay out multiple manifolds of each machine type (smelter, constructors, assemblers etc) that allows for easy ways to funnel any production items into later machines?

This is what I did but it gets messy towards the end https://imgur.com/a/DXpOe4P

would it be to just create columns of each type instead of building them in line

[exotic frigate]

@fallen viper What's that program on the left monitor in your image on Screenshots?

[distant pulsar]

generally it's easier just to make production lines for specific items and leave them producing those items

Switching the same production line to produce something else is a lot of work for not a lot of benefit, buildings are cheap and space is infinite

[indigo pond]

what do i do with mercer spheres?

[exotic frigate]

look in the MAM!

[sick falcon]

avatar is lwk satisfactory coded

[exotic frigate]

mine?

[dense heron]

say i want to make smart plating and modular frames, would i calculate the number of materials needed/min, then work backwards to see if both can be made in the same line, or if i would need two separate production lines with separate miners?

[sick falcon]

no like the movie

[exotic frigate]

oh ok

[jaunty jewel]

depends how many of those items you want

[exotic frigate]

factoriolab.com

[jaunty jewel]

if you want to make 1000 of them then yes you will definitley need separate miners if you want to make 0.1 you wont

but yes pretty much just see how many you want to make, work backwards and find out the cost

[dense heron]

yeah i guess that's the question. how many do i even need? am i just looking at milestones/space elevator stuff? and considering what i want to make in terms of infrastructure and allowing f or that

it's so hard to know, only on day 3

[trim sundial]

I wish i rememberd my school math lessons. I unlocked a fuel recipe that said it produced 4,000 fuel but it says 4 m3 when i select the fuel but in the actual machine it just says 100 per min, i know the number in the machine is what really matters but...still.

[proper fog]

anyone know a website calculator so i can input how many of x i want and it will tell me how much materials i need to make it

[jaunty jewel]

smart platings are only used to put in the space elevator, but modular frames are much more important
keep in mind you can always just make more later if your supply is low

[jaunty jewel]

satisfactory tools

[dense heron]

do you need to keep putting them in after phase 2 (need 1000)?

[exotic frigate]

it's a downside of the game im afraid. its meant to onboard new players more if you ease them in, but it is annoying to not know your demands later game

[jaunty jewel]

not directly but you do need more

again you can just make more though

[indigo pond]

still have no clue, is it deep in the MAM?

[jaunty jewel]

alien technology tree - you need a special resource as well for almost all of the unlocks

[dense heron]

yeah, i don't really mind it just gives a bit of anxiety when it comes to laying out your production lines. ive also never played a factory builder before so flying by the seat of my pants but im hyper addicted lol

[jaunty jewel]

satisfactory is freakishly addicting

when i first played it i think i put like 300 hours in 3-4 weeks

[dense heron]

if i want two assemblers making smart plating then i'd need one normal miner (60 ore/min) feeding each one. it seems like a lot to have one miner making one thing but again no context to reference

[dense heron]

yeah, this is gonna be me. im seeing the belts in my dreams lmao

[jaunty jewel]

i started seeing them while i was awake at one point

[dense heron]

i believe it hahaha

[jaunty jewel]

i started seeing a specific location in the dune desert with my exact factory there

[dense heron]

i think there's a name for that, i always think of it as the lawnmower effect

i worked as a landscaper for a bit in school and i would see the lines in the grass whenever i closed my eyes. i could feel the lines. happens when i play somethin way too much, did this with palworld last month

[exotic frigate]

tetris effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetris_effect

[jaunty jewel]

again - later on you can just build more, and youll have "better" recipes and better buildings to build those buildings

[dense heron]

Those experiencing the effect may feel they are unable to prevent the thoughts, images or dreams from happening.[4]

MAKE IT STOP

[exotic frigate]

I come from factorio, so it wasnt that big of a deal for me when i started. I just build more when I have more demand

[oak nymph]

I just unlocked steel where should I put my fondery

[jaunty jewel]

well you need iron and coal

[oak nymph]

Yeah i will find node close together but it going to be so far from my base

[exotic frigate]

wherever is appropriate for your location, your space elevator, your miners, and your factory

if you really wanted to, you could put it at the build limit. it really doesnt matter

[hasty stump]

put it close to one of the nodes (either iron or coal) and belt the other one in

[proper fog]

speaking of space elevator why the fuck did they make it so big

[exotic frigate]

its a space elevator

[dense violet]

honestly should realistically be a lot bigger

[hasty stump]

same reason they made the blueprint designer so small, to make you annoyed 😆

[oak nymph]

Oh no the blueprint designer is small men it's my next milestone

[hasty stump]

aim for the 5x5 one (the second version), it's more useful

[proper fog]

how can i remove rocks?

[exotic frigate]

honestly a custom shaped blueprint designer would be a great reward at the the end of the game

[dense violet]

bombs

[hasty stump]

if it's an explodable rock then blow it up, but most rocks cannot be removed

[exotic frigate]

or perhaps a copy paste system

[proper fog]

im tier 2, no explosives yet

[exotic frigate]

check in the mam

[hasty stump]

get nobelisks on your fast track priority list then

they're incredibly useful

[proper fog]

i aint crafting that trash just to examine a rapid dogs tail

[dense violet]

rsearch sulfur in the mam

[exotic frigate]

then edit your save file ig?

[dense violet]

crafting what?

[exotic frigate]

i didnt realize how much upgrading to turbo fuel would jump the amount of fuel generators i could sustain. it's nuts

[dense heron]

Fair enough. When bringing in ore from miners, I try to line up the belts wherever they converge before bringing into the base. Is there a way to attach them in parallel so they are the same height and follow the same curves?

[exotic frigate]

stackable conveyor poles

i forgor if theyre in the awesome sink or nah

[exotic frigate]

but yeah, im jumping from 30 fuel generators to 120

[hasty stump]

turbo fuel is where it starts to feel like you have "enough" power for a while

[dense heron]

When I tried they ended as diff heights due to the uneven ground. Even using ctrl

[hasty stump]

rocket fuel is even better

[exotic frigate]

build your belts on foundations

make roads, i mean

[hasty stump]

^ foundations in the sky if you don't want to deal with annoying terrain height variation

[exotic frigate]

since im using power shards, ill be at 75Gw

[proper fog]

how do i clock a constructor to half its speed

[sullen gull]

You'll need to unlock clocking under the slug tree in the MAM.

[proper fog]

alright, thanks

[sullen gull]

Once you do that, you can open the machine window and type in a clock rate or formula. Apparently rounds to four decimal places.

[proper fog]

where in the mam? I only see quarts, sulfur, nutrients, caterium, etc

[sullen gull]

Have you collected any slugs yet?

[proper fog]

slugs of what

[sullen gull]

There should be a tree titled Power Slugs.

[proper fog]

i just did the first quarts research

[sullen gull]

!wikisearch power+slug

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power+slug

[trim sundial]

Someone told me last week that there is a mirror mod yea? That allows you to swap the ports the opposite side? Im curious how well it works because some buildings are driving my asthetic brain crazy and kind of messing up my factory flow as well, like when i have two foundrys side by side producing the same thing but i cant line up their distrubtion because both outputs are on the same side.

[fallen viper]

@exotic frigate sorry I'm just seeing your message but that's satisfactory modular. It's in the steam store (free) and its the best one in my opinion. There's just a learning curve, but I've shown multiple people how to use it and they all pick it up quickly so it's not to bad to figure out. Let me know if you have any questions on how to use it if you end up downloading it.

[dim flint]

You can never have enough outposts in modeler.

[stone python]

i wish you could blend the slugs into a slury

and then drink it

[exotic frigate]

thank you!

[turbid kettle]

hello

[fallen viper]

no problem

[lapis dome]

hey i got a strange slug, but i cant find were to research in the mam

yellow power slug

[dense violet]

might need to research blue first

[fickle oriole]

if I have a blender making encased uranium cells, will the blender radiate radioactivity with the cells inside it, or does the radiation only happen when 'outside' the building, like on a belt to somewhere else?

[dense violet]

yes it will

[indigo pond]

i need help with my water pumps/pipes, not sure what i did wrong but if someone could help itd be much appreciated

[dense violet]

over head images of what you're doing in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

[fickle oriole]

ty. so do folks usually build the entire nuclear power complex and only 'turn on' the uranium input at the very end?

or just live with the radioactivity for a while?

[feral jay]

Alright everyone, I bought Satisfactory as a Christmas present for my nephews, and one of them is LOVING it, I just spent the last six hours playing it with him until my sister called him down for the countdown

[indigo pond]

just sent a ss in math and meta

[lapis dome]

WAIT YOU CAN BUNNY JUMP?

[feral jay]

I CAN FLY A PLANE, THEREFORE I CAN BUNNY JUMP

Bestest xmas gift so far, it's not just a video game, it's hanging out with Uncle Striek

[lapis dome]

is there any way i can insert things from my inventory into belts?

[sullen gull]

Through a container and possibly a merger if needed.

[lapis dome]

so no way to direcly do it, dammit

[ivory condor]

No, idk if any factory building game even has it

[sullen gull]

Just put a merger on the belt just before where you want the item inserted, add a container, connect a belt, add item(s), delete container, belt, merger. Profit

[lapis dome]

factorio has it

[ivory condor]

I wonder if you can still duplicate items on belts, thats true profit

[sullen gull]

I feel like I read that was fixed?

[dense violet]

this is a game about static production. placing random items on belts is not needed or advised

[ivory condor]

Probably it was technically a bug

[lapis dome]

why would i place random items on belts??? im saying this cause i crafted biomass cause my fuse blew, so i had to manually craft to some to replace but it would be easier to drop the items in the splitter belt and let it balance the stack than to do it inside the inventory

[sullen gull]

Happy New year Pioneer's not in the future! 🎉 😏

Sounds like frikin a war zone out side atm 🙄

[dense violet]

ah yeah just put it in the containers you use for it already.

[stone python]

just place it in a container, that is your solution

it will come out and balance

[dense violet]

or hand feed the bio burners

[stone python]

we do not speak of the old magiks here my friend

[clever bough]

🥳 HAPPY NEAR YEAR

[lapis dome]

alredy did this ocnversation took to long, and i cant place a containeer cause i would haave to reconfigure the belts which them i would have to put it back again, which is actually mnore work than dividing in the inventory.

[dense violet]

yup part of the layout and design process you learn

but you're in the pre tutorial, nothing else relaly works like bio burners

[lapis dome]

im researching coal production now, i dunno where ill get water thought

[dense violet]

find coal nodes next to water. I'd guess at least 80% of coal nodes have a water source nearby

[frail sleet]

Set one machine to produce the thing, feed it enough to do so. If you don't have enough later, do that again.

Satisfactory heavily encourages independancy in P1-P4 (for example, if you want to build something with Motors later, you're encouraged to build from Ore to end product then and there rather than import some old motors)

[sullen gull]

Where are you on the map?

[fluid crow]

Ki all! Question I notice that some of the default key binds use modifier keys but whenever I try to rebind a key using one it the settings seem ok with it but it doesn't actually work. is this normal?

[lapis dome]

green fields

but like i havent seen water i think

[dense violet]

go NW into the hills, you'll find a lake wit hcoal

[lapis shadow]

Where can I find some computers? It sounds like they can spawn at wrecks but I'm having trouble finding out which ones in particular. I have the interactive map pulled up so I can see all the wrecks but it doesn't tell me what resources would be present at the wreck sites

[sullen gull]

Go here: #screenshots message

[vivid jackal]

its a new years all refresh your quotas get back to work for a more effficent year

[lapis dome]

is there a way to quick clear the hotbar?

[sullen gull]

I believe you have to have a save loaded to be able to see the "Items" layer

[dense violet]

not really. But you do have 10 hotbars

[sullen gull]

Then build this: 🤣 #screenshots message

[dense violet]

also you don't need all the foundations on the hot bar, for example

if you put 1m foundation on it, hold E to bring up a radial menu that will show all the other foundations

[fluid crow]

think just pressing 1-0 when you not hovering over a building with the menu open

[lapis shadow]

the way I clear a hotbar quickly is to just go to anything in the build menu and click keys 0-9 twice over. So that the first iteration assigns my slot and then the second removes it, works for me 🤷‍♂️

[fluid crow]

but fr though can someone tell if only certain actions allow a modifier key like Ctrl+b? or only certian keys?

[sudden flint]

10/10 pfp. thought it was a cursed monster pelican, then ai, then I saw a cheesburger cat

[fluid crow]

Thanks!

[hoary ferry]

lol just opened a totally normal ficmis gift

[sudden flint]

awesome for pre-nobelisk players, devastating otherwise XD

[upper ibex]

happy new years! wish i could play the game with my friend but having annoyin issues Xd

[vague berry]

Hey where is mycelium I can’t find it

[sullen gull]

Look around for caves. Or you can go to the Blue Crater or Rocky Desert.

[vague berry]

Ok I know I think I know the blue crater and caves but what do they look like

@sullen gull

[sullen gull]

They vary greatly (Props to the designer). Where are you now?

[vague berry]

In a cave with blue mushrooms

[sullen gull]

Those are mycillia

cut them down with the chainsaw.

There should also be ones you can "collect"

[vague berry]

Thank you

[wispy osprey]

Hey happy new year fellow satisfactory players, I've recently been struggling with motivation on my save after finishing a not-so-perfect turbo power plant.

I've built and rebuilt many times, coming up with essentially everything by myself

When i made it to oil, I'd made a system where I can choose what to power on and off, while only using 1 pure coal node and 1 pure iron node

I wanted to reach the point of train logistics but I don't know where to send stuff or where to store complete product

I felt quickly overwhelmed when unlocking manufacturing

[dense violet]

Unless you have a goal to use those items - don't move them.

[wispy osprey]

That's also a good point, what's the point of train logistics if I have nothing to move

[dense violet]

main advice - just follow the milestones, they're a guide post to finishing what is essentially a tutorial

[wispy osprey]

Everything i need branches off of my single "tree-line" factory

I at least have 21GW of power but that's with 6GW from old coal generator setups

[wispy osprey]

It's probably for the best for me to manually put parts in storage buffers for manufacturing for now

If i create a delivery line, I need another turbo fuel plant

[dense violet]

sure 🙂

[wispy osprey]

It's really overwhelming for me, I'm not the smartest guy, quartz and caterium are all far away from my steel factory

[lapis dome]

wait why is one iron miner 30 per second and the other is 60 per second?

[limpid cairn]

Purity difference

There’s impure (0.5 speed)
Normal (1 speed)
Pure (2 speed) nodes

[lapis dome]

ooooh

[dense violet]

I recommend this tool - it takes a little bit of practice but its well worth it. https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

you can also save the links in another file to have permanent references

[wispy osprey]

There's still a small part of me that wants to completely fresh start

That's the one I use yeah

[dense violet]

fresh starts can help sometimes 🙂 I did it a few times learning

[wispy osprey]

Some of it is that, some of it is math, all of it ends up wrong because splitters keep dividing

The site will say (x) constructors but splitting that up based on what conveyor you're at is just a headache

[dense violet]

manifolds

[wispy osprey]

Sometimes I don't know when to stop manifolds though

[dense violet]

all you need to worry about is

1. having enough parts per min on the belt for the system
2. a fast enough belt for it

just make groups of machiens

if a system needs 400 parts per min? make the group of machiens on it clocked to use 400, and have a belt fast enough for it

[wispy osprey]

The end of the manifold could send 1 item per minute, for example

Because of division

[dense violet]

no, the end of the manifold just stops at the last machine

[wispy osprey]

What if the machine needs a lot of something but the line still needs a lot of those constructors

[dense violet]

all you need to worry about is

1. having enough parts per min on the belt for the system
2. a fast enough belt for it

[wispy osprey]

Cables have given me a headache more times than you might think

[dense violet]

your belt speed will always be your limiter in these things. Make groups of machines based on that and it'll work

[dense violet]

as for power cables, simplest to have 1 wall socket per machine and chain them. A simple way of having that is run a beam along the top of the machines and put the sockets on those

[wispy osprey]

I meant cable construction, wire to cable is an annoying recipe

With mk.3 belts wires hardly reach more than 2 constructors

Becomes inefficient

[dense violet]

well at 100% 1x cable constructor needs 60 wire pm
a mk3 belt can move 270 so you could do 4.5 machines at 100% making cables

[trim sundial]

You know what i just realised, i havent blown a fuse in 3 days....its a nice realization

[wispy osprey]

I just have to make sure I'm reading everything correctly then

The tool site doesn't divide things like that, it shows you a total amount of machines but you need to do the conveyor math

[dense violet]

yup but it's generally pretty easy math

like if you have mk3 belts with 270 speed, and you need to move 500 parts per min, it probably means having 2 groups is simplest

[limpid cairn]

Once you get down the basics building the math stuff isn’t that mathy imo

[whole drum]

Belts are often the simplest part because you just manifold almost everything in the game

[limpid cairn]

Till space isn’t enough and you have to make an injection manifold

[wispy osprey]

I like manifolds but I also like perfect math

[whole drum]

Manifolds let you do perfect math too

[dense violet]

manifolds are 100% efficient

[wispy osprey]

As long as i have all of the machines per the belt limit, or per how many parts assembly needs, then yea

Otherwise I'll have stalling machines if I do any math wrong

[dense violet]

ok? but it's very easy to have 'perfect math' and 'manifolds'

[wispy osprey]

Yes, I don't have to make it too complicated

There's just a lot wrong with my save file

[dense violet]

your first factories will also be messy, don't stress too much

[exotic frigate]

Ill probably end up enabling all the mam researches in my next playthrough, and revealing the map. Its getting annoying having to deal with all the research trees

[dense violet]

you might as well just use AGS to unlock everything then, the MAM is the least work

[exotic frigate]

I really dont like the exploration aspect. It just gets in the way of building the factory. And the research tree makes it a bit worse.

But thats it. Power shards can be automated, no point in cheating them in, and if I need more Mercer spheres or somersloops ill cheat them in when I run out.

Everything else is building the factory, which is the fun part

[edgy hedge]

I hope it's not by design that when placing catwalks the Zoop function changes to default when you swap pieces.
It's rather annoying having to keep resetting Zoop.

I'm sure it never used to happen too

[silent copper]

Happy new years guys

[dusty kernel]

Happy new years to you as well

[leaden pond]

Happy new years

[wispy osprey]

Sorry if I seem stand-offish or overconfident

I've essentially played 300 hours of this game at the slowest pace possible

I really am not that smart

[coral marsh]

Finally finished my packaged rocket fuel setup

Once its all up and properly running, ill be producing 200 per minute

[hasty stump]

just got my first choo choo of this playthrough up and running

[wispy osprey]

I still want to make a turbofuel plant that's not the power plant

[coral marsh]

Oh hey cool

[coral marsh]

Packaged?

[wispy osprey]

Yeah

[coral marsh]

Easy honestly, once you get blenders, usea dimensional depots and the blenders to make packaged rocket fuel

[wispy osprey]

Should be pretty much the same as the power plant setup I have

[coral marsh]

Im gonna be switching out every vehicle I have from turbo fuel to rocket fuel

[wispy osprey]

My first turbo plant brought me to 21GW

When I get turbo blend I'll dismantle all of my coal plants

[coral marsh]

Yea

I have 148 running off of rocket fuel

[wispy osprey]

I have the same exact plan

I'm saving train logistics for nuclear power

[coral marsh]

I actually plan to do an incredibly fkin hard challenge and run 600 off of ionized fuel

[wispy osprey]

Sounds about right for endgame GW

[dense violet]

Practice abd planning 🙂 maybe if you work on the planning if each section more?

[coral marsh]

I have a plan for 250 reactors, 600 fuel gens and 200 thousand power storage units. All 3 of my end game projects

[wispy osprey]

I hear nuclear has a net loss in power production

Idk who told me this

[coral marsh]

I downloaded a mod that increases the power they produce from 2.5Gw to 25Gw (10 fold)

[wispy osprey]

It seems like a really cool power choice when you can use waste properly

[coral marsh]

Its good if you plan to build a lot of them, so you can run a chunk off of uranium, use that waste to make plutonium for fuel and then that waste for Ficsonium fuel

[edgy hedge]

How many oil patches is 21G off of, if you don't mind me asking?

[coral marsh]

Ficsonium has zero waste but a quick burn time

[wispy osprey]

1 pure at 300/s

1 pure oil does that much

[coral marsh]

Theres 1 or 2 pure patches down in the southeast of the map

[edgy hedge]

I'm doing something wrong then

[wispy osprey]

Midgame is fun

[edgy hedge]

I have a turbofuel setup off of 2 pure patches and it's struggling to keep a few thousand GW going.

[wispy osprey]

I'll admit i did overclock a bit on oil to get 300 because of math but yeah, a single pure node does a lot

[coral marsh]

Overclock them

1 pure patch at 250% will over supply 16 refineries for fuel which will oversupply another 16 refineries to make turbo fuel

[edgy hedge]

Yeah. It's only just built. There's muc optimatisation I can do

[coral marsh]

Use that for 40 gens or double everything down, build 80 gens, 2 pure patches at 250% OC and you'll have 20-40Gw

[wispy osprey]

May need blenders for that*

[coral marsh]

Not for turbo fuel

Thats rocketfuel and ionized fuel

Turbo fuel is made in refineries

[wispy osprey]

Really? A pure coal and sulfur node making compacted coal isn't keeping up with my refineries

That's why I went down to 21GW

[coral marsh]

South East of the map, 3 sulfur nodes, 3 coal, 5-6 oil patches all but 1-2 of them are pure rest are normal

[edgy hedge]

I've played over 500 hours of Satisfactory on Steam (and probably at least that amount on Epic) and I still haven't go to Aluminium yet. I need to speed up, but wanna get the power right first. 🤣

[wispy osprey]

How many per sec does 300/s of oil need

[coral marsh]

I supplied 40 gens off of turbo fuel initially and once I unlocked rocket fuel I added 108 fuel gens

[coral marsh]

No idea, I just used 16/16 refineries to make fuel, turbo fuel and later on, rocket fuel

[edgy hedge]

Not one save, btw 🙂

[coral marsh]

Use the 3 sulfur/coal nodes for compact coal in 6 assemblers

[fierce granite]

why not use the alts for Fuel, to make more?

[gloomy tusk]

Just built a 2000 megawatt coal factory on my first save

Only 45 hours and still going strong 🥳

[coral marsh]

I was already done making the refinery blueprints, I wasn't gonna change

[wispy osprey]

My coal was at 6000 before I powered up my turbofuel plant

[vague berry]

Hey how do you change the ammo for the rebar gun

[wispy osprey]

I went from 6000 to 21000

[coral marsh]

Hrmm, this server doesn't have a video call chat, id show you guys my setup for rocket fuel and turbo fuel

[gloomy tusk]

Big w

[coral marsh]

Press and hold R

[gloomy tusk]

This is my first run and in my opinion I’m
Doing pretty good

[vague berry]

Ok

[wispy osprey]

I figured out a way to make a mega factory

I can choose what to power on, or overflow

The building count quickly increases when doing this

[loud osprey]

is bhop built into the game now? i swear i couldn't do it a few updates ago and now i can again

[wispy osprey]

Bhop?

[loud osprey]

yeah when i slide it increases exponentially

is it a bug or a feature

[coral marsh]

Sprint-crouch- jump

Its short for "bunny hopping"

[loud osprey]

yeah but it feels like the movement was changed

[sterile blade]

Slide-hopping was always a thing, ever since crouching was added iirc.
It's speed has been tweaked (up) between U8 and 1.0 iirc

[coral marsh]

Shift-C-Spacebar

While moving forwards

[loud osprey]

tweaked without any limit? i just slid from one side of the map to another twice

[wispy osprey]

Huh that's a nice way to get around

I jump out of habit

[loud osprey]

it took some build up but it don't feel right

[sterile blade]

That sounds excessive by a few orders of magnitude

[loud osprey]

i thought so

i literally just reinstalled there's no mods and unreal unlocker ain't on so it's default

whatever, good for efficiency, now i don't have to do transportation stuff

[wispy osprey]

I like parachuting up catwalk stairs

Or angled terrain

[loud osprey]

same, personal favorite is when it lets me glitch up the space elevator

idk my computer is as bipolar as as starbucks barista so it's really annoying when it does stuff like that and then like ten minutes later when i'm used to it, it stops doing it

[sterile blade]

FYI, you can just check the "integrity of game files", rather then reinstalling a game, for it to check for issues in its code ^^

[loud osprey]

theoretically

it's missed stuff before

[sterile blade]

High tier movement be like: parachute + angled beam

[loud osprey]

fr

[loud osprey]

also my computer gets a lot of viruses after a month and a half so i have to reset it or i get alot more spam calls then usual

[teal geyser]

Thats not normal dude

[sterile blade]

Right... Because resetting your software famously resets who has your phone numbers...

[teal geyser]

Do you not use anti virus?

[loud osprey]

i try to and it's cause when they get in my accounts my number is attached so i just change it

i mean it's like the when your sick you don't go to the doctors unless you feel really bad cause it should resolve itself, it just usually doesn't

[sudden flint]

#screenshots message Yeah, needless to say, I think I'm glad I've got my coal power researched and ready to go for when all this eventually runs out

[loud osprey]

on my save i finally just got coal

so exciting

[sterile blade]

Today, I'll finally, actually (for real this time) finish the production plan for my factory.
No more excuses!
Even if messy and hard to read, it should at least be finished

[proud citrus]

I’m new to the game, is it normal having to keep deleting your factory and rebuilding as you progress?

[loud osprey]

s.o.p.

unless you just don't give anything about it and just make it look like knockoff noodles

[sudden flint]

normal? yes. Advised? no. maybe once or twice once you have splitters mergers and foundations, but otherwise, just let your factory be and build better ones later

[molten minnow]

just max overclocked the oil extractors and realized i can max out 4 MK2 pipes and still have 150/m extra

[jagged nymph]

#screenshots message
i went up

[loud osprey]

honestly imo, don't bother with foundations or neatness until you have finished phase 2, just worry about the numbers and overall buildings, if you try to make the introduction absolutely perfect to the neatest degree, you won't even start the overall writing

[limpid cairn]

Not high enough, find Michael and json at the top of the space lift

[jagged nymph]

wait theres actually smth up there?

[limpid cairn]

Conspiracy theory

[molten minnow]

MICHAAAEEL DONT LEAVE ME HERE

[jagged nymph]

i see

[loud osprey]

yeah satan's up there, he'll take your life and loot

[sterile blade]

@deep pine When starting a project, it can be convenient to check out the inputs and place machinery accordingly to help with logistics 😉
Eg: if a production step takes 1 solid item every 100 cubic meters of fluid, it might be more convenient to place the production close to the fluid and deliver the solid (rather than the other way around)

[sudden flint]

imo, DO bother with foundations and splitters, but only worry about prettiness later

[loud osprey]

? foundations is prettiness is it not?

[sudden flint]

foundations is structure and organization