satisfactory

[molten cove]

i have container full of every basic resource

[upper gale]

If it's unoptimized, then it's understandable. But it's not too hard to build all machines running at 100% efficiency the first time. Do it right the first time and you won't have to touch it most likely

[upper gale]

Good, at least you understand the importance of that in early game. I'm not sure why these other players are just disreguarding it

[molten cove]

well i didnt do it right

[unkempt blade]

there are personal preference reasons to update a factory but if someone just wants to get through research/objectives it's basically always better to just add new factories (with the "better" design) than it is to replace an existing factory

[tall lantern]

then you can take the lessons you've learned for next time. No need to delete a working factory, even if it isn't quite to your new standards

[upper gale]

Pretty much

[molten cove]

#screenshots message

this what i build then i got lazy and added another layer like an idiot

except i got tired so im pretty sure theres wrong belt layout

[upper gale]

I try to build around the belt capacity as the focus

For most of the time, that's your bottleneck

[tall lantern]

though that's only really relevant for the miners, everything else can be subdivided to avoid belt limits

[unkempt blade]

That just seems like a pretty reasonable early game factory to me. Especially if you're newer to the game that's better than a lot of people do

[golden nexus]

most of the time that is just a limit on getting it out of the ground

[dense pebble]

Its been 6 hours since i automated phase 2 components and i just sent them all in the space elevator i cant wait for it to become exponentially harder

[mortal ginkgo]

Spoiler: You will feel like a Gigachad handling phase 3, then phase 4 will humble you respectively.

[golden nexus]

And then Phase 5 .....

[zealous urchin]

big dawg never gets humbled

[mortal ginkgo]

I will say Phase 5 is not THAT hard because it doesn't bring too much new stuff to the table. Phase 4 is where new stuff just hits you like a truck.

[zealous urchin]

big dawg humbles the humbledness

[mortal ginkgo]

That means me smol doggu 😔

[golden nexus]

Its more like you gotta scale Phase 4 up

Phase 5 / T9 checks your power supply is working 🙂

[zealous urchin]

chill day never hurt anybody bro u good

[mortal ginkgo]

Eh, some people could just wait for it. I mean, one item is probably automated already and others got just tiny steps.

[mortal ginkgo]

Baba, people been harsh to me, for being impure lime stone node.

They don't see me hustling. They don't see me workin' day and night. They be like, "lol impure, skip."

[junior gate]

hey, was wondering if anyone knew of any communities where people hang out in vc and talk about satisfactory, been getting tired of just listening to music/ watching youtube while playing

[mortal ginkgo]

I bring 30 Limestone per minute to the table. And what do I get in return? KEKS AND BURS

[molten cove]

Its not my photo

[zealous urchin]

but youve been the best impurelimestone node baby

[molten cove]

Its just the layout

[upper gale]

Yk how people don't like all the impure nodes in the grassland as a starting point, well I like it because of that. Bunch of impures you can waste in the early game

[zealous urchin]

there is some joke to be made here with wet and fluids but idk about levels of social receptors and humor in this chat so imma abstain

[mortal ginkgo]

unfortunately, its pretty safe, so safe that it gets dull.

"it could be worse I guess" is the ordeal we all have around here

[unkempt blade]

The reason I don't like them for new players is because it makes resources a lot more expensive in terms of power for the first few tiers and there's generally enough to learn without needing to build 50% more biomass generators or whatever it works out to 😆

it's a very soft kind of trap for new players

[mortal ginkgo]

its a good way to make people leave such a "almost fully safe and flat" area and go for exploring.

I just wished path to pink forest wasn't hard. That place is so beautiful, so charming, so lovely.

I hope every single new player from now on goes there right away. My new year's wish yes. Yes.

[upper gale]

That's understandable but I think it's pretty fair. Makes them be more cautious about their power usage and also makes them think more about efficiency

[zealous urchin]

safe doesnt need to be dull, easy to be misunderstood more and more i think

[unkempt blade]

as opposed to like the rocky desert start which has the same kinds of resources but with much higher purities and similarly flat spaces to build

[mortal ginkgo]

TO BE ULTRA FAIR, after playing in Rocky Desert for so long, I found Grassy Fields a bit dull and boring. Like.. eventless so to speak. Aside from that one cave.

I might be biased but hey.

[upper gale]

Tbh yeah rocky desert is a better spot for newbies

[white dawn]

On the other hand, you can't really make use of "better" nodes very well in the early game anyway, so if you start somewhere that's more heavy on Impures+Normals, by the time you're ready to start expanding outwards, you've got an otherwise-pristine set of really great nodes to start building bigger factories on

Though yeah, I agree that the power-per-miner thing is among the main best arguments against what I just said. :)

[primal obsidian]

maybe even 90 if its overclocked

i think

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah, I mean its a bit rocky but the starter zone is a massive "desert" area.

I kinda fail to see what Grass Field is there for. Maybe it is truly for new players where as Rocky Desert is a "faster startup for experienced people"

[golden nexus]

Its really not

[white dawn]

In the end, if you plan to expand around the map anyway, it sort of doesn't matter regardless. Just build everywhere! :D

[unkempt blade]

it's really only an issue for early game but that's kind of exactly why I think it's a bit of a beginner trap

[white dawn]

Although even then, 5MW isn't awful. By the time you get mk2s you'll be looking at coal power anyway

I actually avoided Grass Fields start for quite awhile but chose it again for my 1.0 playthrough and discovered I really like it as a starting location

So I feel compelled to speak up for it a bit. :D

[unkempt blade]

yeah by the time coal rolls around I'd consider it a non-issue it's really just the biomass effort

[white dawn]

Anyway if it is a beginner trap, it's at least a relatively nonthreatening one. It's just getting your socks damp, not poking you with a stick. :D

[golden nexus]

Something I did around early/mid game is actually throw away all the starter factories when i got mk2 miners. What i did was actually move them all off onto impure nodes which are going to get 60/min or 120/min if overclocks which is perfect for "finished" factories making base materials like rod, plate, screws, wire, cable, copper sheet and all that crap.

[unkempt blade]

I still like the forest start area the best even if I need to make cartoonish ramps to get places faster 😆

[zealous urchin]

cursed technique: cartoon ramp

[unkempt blade]

I still think of it as "minecrafting" to places when I make some insane structure out of foundations to get there

[golden nexus]

I think people also forget with a couple of alt's like Copper Alloy, if you use a foundry and impure copper nodes mixed with impure iron. They are going to produce 120 (overclocked to 200%) and that turns into 240/min per node pair. So once your into steel the GF actually has 540/min copper on the two impure nodes combined.... thats a lot considering there is still 3 normal copper nodes nearby

[zealous urchin]

they made us play fortnite all along

[tranquil zinc]

how does the math of a merger work? I have mk 3 belts and mk II driller on 2 pure iron. If I combine them into a merger will it need like 480 resource per minute belt?

or am I misunderstanding/doing the math wrong?

[upper gale]

That was was I said when I first played the game lol "wait I can place ramps anywhere? So I can just fortnite up there?"

[golden nexus]

whats goes in comes out....

[tranquil zinc]

dude this is what I have been doing lol

[unkempt blade]

not need exactly but it will throttle the rate your miners work if it's less than the sum of their output

[unkempt blade]

yeah it's very useful at least until you get some of the mobility equipment researched

[tranquil zinc]

I am confused. Basically I want to supply my 16 smelter production , which needs 2 pure iron with mk II miners and mk 3 belts. Because its a manifold, does that meen I can't supply it because mk 3 belts are limited to 270 if I just use one merger?

[golden nexus]

Yeah you can't. If you put 240x2 in you need 480 out.

[sterile blade]

A merger has one output belt. If the output belt can't carry the sum of the inputs, the inputs will back up.

[tranquil zinc]

got it. So instead of one input belt going into this smelter production, I need two. And not using merger

[golden nexus]

@tranquil zinc so you better running 2 belts, to 2xsmelters setups, 2xfactories

[sterile blade]

Now you're thinking with portals belts

[candid ember]

Guys I'm trying to lift water pipelines to my main base, someone can give me a tip from where I should pass the pipelines? #screenshots

Behind the base I have settled conveyor lifts for each input

[white dawn]

fwiw, it is always much easier to just build factories right near the fluids, rather than doing shenanigans like that. :)

You can certainly move fluids like that if you want, but you're setting yourself a lot of extra challenges which you could otherwise avoid

[south sinew]

#screenshots message

[white dawn]

But anyway, when transporting fluids up in pipes, it's just Pipeline Pumps that you need. The mk1s will give you 20m of "head lift." Lifts further "down" will tell you how far up they're having to work; make sure you place the next pump comfortably within the range of the previous one

(pumps don't "stack" -- you can't add a bunch near the bottom and expect each one to contribute +20m; you'd need to have one roughly every 20m of height or so (personally I stick to closer to 18m or so))

(also, when asking questions which require images, using #1038092680493801533 (or #math-and-meta or #design-and-architecture if appropriate) is generally far better than posting to #screenshots and then asking in here)

[sterile blade]

I just stack them with 20m between each :P

[tulip sable]

any one German?

[white dawn]

(Also also, very unasked-for bit of advice: I'd recommend trying to not think of things in terms of a "main base." You're setting yourself up for a lot of extra problems you could otherwise avoid when you centralize production in general, not just on account of fluids. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

Bro asked for a smol tip, he instead got the knowledge of eldritch horrors from a big dog.

[sterile blade]

apocalypTED is on duty 🫡
||Joke disclaimer||

[zealous urchin]

big dawg humbles eldritch horrors

[zealous urchin]

i laughed so hard i turned into hindu semi ashwaganda demi*god like state of being

[white dawn]

(real talk though: I do often feel like I've gotta reign in my verbosity on here. I find it lowkey worrying when folks think of me as a "big dog" (y'alls words, not mine) just 'cause I have a tendency to never shut up. I'm just an internet rando like the rest of you! :D)

[azure garnet]

It’s 2026 soon

[white dawn]

(A childhood spent playing typing games shouldn't confer any kind of emergent status, etc! :D)

[candid ember]

In the beginning of this big base I had to choose between separated bases and main bases

I couldn't imagine a me by transporting different materials in different places, output that eventually would have gone from place A to B knowing myself that could mess me up, since I didn't have any kind of help for that

[dense pebble]

what do you guys use to plan out automating production like is there online tools?? curently i plan it all out with pen and paper but surely theres better options

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, you yap alot, but you also know alot, so sharing more knowledge equals to more yapping. If you had knowledge but not yap, your knowledge would be wasted. If you had no knowledge but yap constantly, your name would be Impure Limestone Node.

🙂‍↕️

[candid ember]

I picked the option that sounded easier at least for me, bring everything I needed in one point and then produce everything in there, except for fuel and other stuff

[white dawn]

For a calculator/solver, you'll often see sftools recommended: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production (though there are plenty others out there)
For planning/modelling, a lot of folks like Satisfactory Modeler (available on Steam)

[mortal ginkgo]

factoriolab or the tools website above

[azure garnet]

2026 is gonna be the year where i get all the achivements in satisfactory

[sterile blade]

I'm personally in the gang preferring more words to less words
You also put effort into what you write, so it's not like you're just feeding us word salad...
Like... There's word protein and substance too, in there...

[dense pebble]

you guys are awesome thank you very much

[candid ember]

U CRAZY

[mortal ginkgo]

no u LOL GOT'EM KEK

also tap Impure Limestone Nodes, all of them. There is a secret achievement for that.

[south sinew]

it's basically the same idea as yours

[mortal ginkgo]

I have no reason to lie to you, therefore what I speak is truth.

[south sinew]

just better executed ;p

[zealous urchin]

and then there are satisfactoriyo yappers

[queen slate]

can i stunlock a radioactive stinger with stun rebars?

[mortal ginkgo]

"WEEE WHY MY GAME NOT LIKE FACTORO WEEE FACTORIO DOES THAT DOES THIS" stick an impure limestone node in their yappers I say

[zealous urchin]

impure limestone node expresses more than a thousand words

[onyx flume]

Should I watch like yt videos to learn or Should I just wing it?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes, everything can be stunned. I hate Fandom website for this because it says "slows big monsters" instead of stun which can be confusing for someone who doesnt know fandom is outdated as much as my romance life and that says alot.

[white dawn]

I've really gotta train myself to use one L when writing "Satisfactory Modeler". My brain seems quite stuck on using two.

[sterile blade]

Me when sushi is mentioned: ☝️

[ocean frost]

Happy new year

[mortal ginkgo]

just wing it, you have the wings

[upper gale]

Yeah it is easier. It's just later on, you'll have to go further and further into the map. Making it more and more difficult to bring everything to one spot. At that point it's worth trying to keep things separate. The players that are confident just do it from the start. But especially since depots exist it's better

[onyx flume]

Is there a certain zone i should go for?

[mortal ginkgo]

Grass Fields are pretty newcomer friendly. Rocky Desert is slightly daring with better nodes. Dune Desert is mostly for veterans due to early game struggles. Northren Forest is "what the actual heck brotherman" so I stay away personally.

[onyx flume]

Ok thanks

[mortal ginkgo]

again, personal opinion. if you like dune deserts, dune desert is cool.

[molten cove]

why cant i snap blue print to world grid?

[mortal ginkgo]

have a foundation beneath that is aligned to world grid, put the blueprint, delete that foundation

[onyx flume]

Idk i made one world go try out the game but that's it so no clue

[golden nexus]

Which part of the blueprint would snap? Like which item in the blueprint

[queen slate]

i love the stun rebar

[blissful crater]

so depending on where you put water extractors on the pipe they can fully saturate 8 coal generators despite the pipe throughput not being high enough, is this consistent with overclocking them? like can i overclock them and they can feed 16 total if i place them well

[candid ember]

But how do u deal with things separated efficiently? Isn't difficult to bring a product from A to B to C, then come back to B etc etc?

[golden nexus]

Yes

[queen slate]

killed a radioactive stinger because stun rebar goes crazy

[molten cove]

figured it out.

locked it and nudged into place

[candid ember]

Can you make me an example on how this is better than a main base? Because I could consider to do that from now on

For example - I'm making Cooling System, which needs

• Heat Sink
• Rubber
• Water
• Nitrogen Gas.
  How would I separate the base efficiently?

I have 1 liquid and one gas, which is 3km away, and some products thst are a bit complex to build in different e places

[upper gale]

I pick a good spot for whatever I want to make, using the scim map. If you pick a good spot that has the necessary nodes nearby, then you can make the entire factory right there

Moving the finished product though that's just a matter of trains or conveyors
(And ofc depot if you need it for building)

[sterile blade]

It can help keeping things organized (even without using walls, the sheer distance creates separation between production areas) and reduce logistics. An example of the latter: if you happen to need more Heavy Modular Frames, it might be more convenient to set up a factory close to the needed raw items and send just one item to base (HMF) rather than having to ship many different ores back home ^^

[golden nexus]

I can give you a simple example.... this factory #screenshots message has 3 input belts and 1 output belt of the same material. eg limestone -> concrete. This means i need 1 belts not 3 belts to transport the materials to a "main base"

Every reduction in the game has this optimization

[onyx flume]

Every limestone i find in my starting area is impure

[weak stump]

Why does the game not allow me to change Graphics Engine?
And when I do change it with launch params (To DX12), it tells me "DX11 is deprecated"

[blissful crater]

when people build big factories do you just smelt all the ores and split them out evenly and eventually let them stabilize onces buffers fill up or do you like route almost exact amounts to where its needed

[white dawn]

I think when flipping between renderers you can end up with some junk values "hanging around" in your Engine.ini btw, specifically the [/Script/WindowsTargetPlatform.WindowsTargetSettings] section

[upper gale]

Here's another thing: let's say I need screws. I'm not going to make a 10,000 screw factory unless I plan on using 10,000 somewhere

[molten cove]

is smart plating needed post phase 2?

[white dawn]

Could try hopping into there and removing that section, and/or removing Engine.ini entirely

[queen slate]

#screenshots message what should i pick/ should i rescan?

[white dawn]

Space Elevator parts are used to make later Space Elevator parts

[zealous urchin]

electrode scrap and encased hmf are picks

other two are whatever

[queen slate]

thx

[fleet moss]

Hi everyone, I just scanned a hard drive and my rewards are either Copper Rotor or Steel Rotor (I still need to finish Phase 2 of the space elevator)

[white dawn]

Since you're asking for advice, I'll pipe up with Yet Another Recommendation For Independency: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency. Basically: each factory only ever outputs to your "personal" storage (ie: stuff you use for your build gun), and goes all the way from ore->product, totally isolated from any other factory of yours. Once a factory's done, it's done -- you never touch it again. Whenever some other factory requires more of that resource, you just make more of the resource right there, inside the new factory.

[zealous urchin]

the opinions on this matter are split among community

[weak stump]

I don't seem to have an Engine.ini in the game's folder?

[golden nexus]

They both have their uses, but steel rotor means you can combine stator+rotor in the same steel building to make motors

[bleak plover]

who remembers this

[white dawn]

It'd be in your PC user's AppData or whatever, not in the game install folders. Near where your savegames are (check #faq for where the savegames are)

[candid ember]

You used the concrete as example, but this can be used for more advanced products?

Let's say I need to make a outlet that needs 3/4 products, what would u do in that case?

Sorry for the question but I'm asking it for understand

[weak stump]

DefaultGraphicsRHI=DefaultGraphicsRHI_DX12 This better?

[fleet moss]

Well the copper recipe takes 6 copper sheets and 52 screws to make 3 rotors which is 11.25 per minute (I do have a lot of iron and copper deposits around me)

[golden nexus]

Yes of course, I could load another save which takes 2400/iron and 1200/copper and reduces it to 300/stator. So 3600->300 is 12x less items transported

[candid ember]

Thank you

[candid ember]

Make sense, I will try to plan and see the organization in this way, I think I'm still in time, there isn't a specific moment I can chose this method

[white dawn]

Cheers! It's just one way to play, of course. And even though I frequently recommend it, I don't even follow it religiously myself. Just remember to have fun, in the end! :)

[zealous urchin]

for first timers steel rotor is better definately

[golden nexus]

Yeah its good in the mid game

Turns the game around, you eliminate the initial rotor factory and move to steel + motor. This free's up the iron node to be used to make more rplate/mod frame or something like that

[golden nexus]

You can also see from this screenshot how far 3 belts would have had to come from my concrete factory #screenshots message

[candid ember]

I've asked for more infos because what scares me is that the method I'm using could screw everything I've built (for example I'm forced to rebuilt everything because of the actual method I'm using)

[white dawn]

I don't remember the specifics myself, honestly. I'd had some similar things when playing with the renderer on Linux, though, and I'd just wiped out that whole section which cleared things up for me.

[golden nexus]

Both methods work. Its just one method is more optimal

[white dawn]

Heh, nah, the game is very forgiving, and you're never screwed. (Unless you're producing screws!)

[candid ember]

Reported

[white dawn]

Remember that you're never forced to rebuild anything. If you decide you don't like a factory, just abandon it! It'll keep on producing whatever it was producing, even if it kind of sucks

[candid ember]

I want the optimal one!!

[white dawn]

It's a huge map, with far more resources than many players realize. You can just start building factories somewhere else, instead. :)

[candid ember]

From that far away from your main base right?

[white dawn]

(This is, in fact, one reason why I love the "Independency" approach; every factory you make is a totally isolated thing. You're constantly "abandoning" your old factories, 'cause they're done and you never need to touch them again. If you make what you consider a "mistake," who cares? It's just that one factory; you can try to do better the next time. :)

[proper fog]

Anyone know a website where I can enter an amount of items and see how much is required to make it?

[golden nexus]

@candid ember You should also consider that you can have 2 remote factories eg rplate built on 2 nodes and then picked up in a single train and brought in.... so it open up other options as well. It also makes it easier to intercept / change the supply chain / move to alt recipies

[candid ember]

But the one you guys are saying is better also because is a matter of fact, if I have to rebuild something, not necessarily I have to take down everything, just that part, so ur idea is better

[golden nexus]

I don't really have a "main base" I am just spread out #screenshots message
What you see int he far corner is mostly steel / rplate for motor / space parts coming together

I have factories spread all over the place. Like automated miners is automated 1km away... I probably forget where i even put it eventually

[pure snow]

is oc supercomputers worth it

[molten cove]

#screenshots message

its finished

[candid ember]

The concept is the same as apocalyptech said?

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

this?

[sage nacelle]

my manifolds filled up but i left my base and when i came back they no longer worked efficiently can someone join my session and help me fix my factory

[pure snow]

disconnect the final machine

[sage nacelle]

wdym the final machine

[golden nexus]

Kinda

[pure snow]

like

[sage nacelle]

and why disconect it

[pure snow]

what are you making

[sage nacelle]

screw and iron rod factort

i alr made it

and when i thought i fixed it

[pure snow]

can you send a pic

[candid ember]

Quite sure it's the belt

[sage nacelle]

its multi floor

[candid ember]

Is the belt taking enough output per min?

[sage nacelle]

120 iron ( all mk2 belts)

into 4 smelters

oh wait i js spotted an mk1 belt

lets see if that fixes it

[candid ember]

If the mk1 belt was on the manifold and not the one that send directly to the smelter it will fix the problem

[sage nacelle]

it was part of the input line for the manifold

[candid ember]

So it's that 🙂 It will fix

[sage nacelle]

also i am thinking of making a reinforced plate factory that makes 10 a min and a rotor factory after should i do it before making a steel fac

[white dawn]

Personally I like to have everything in previous tiers/milestones automated before moving on to the next ones

But it's your game! Approach it however you like. :)

[sage nacelle]

ye thats what i wanna do

[upper gale]

Yeah luckily you weren't in the games I've been in recently, they told all 3 of us "if you need iron plates just steal some from the reinforced iron plate factory" ._.
In solo play it's feasible but not beyond that

They didn't have a box for iron plates

[pallid hatch]

Hey, so if I disable a QOL mod (one that doesnt involve any placables) to troubleshoot if it causing my game crashes, does my mod savegame settings for those mods stick around if I choose to reenable it? (assuming I begin loading new saves as I make progress, given the crashes are like 20 minutes apart)

I understand if mods that add buildables, if those dont return if I re-enable, but what about background QOL mods like speedy trains

[rustic scroll]

who is realy well skilled in trains here ?

[clear tartan]

@golden nexus will the last 3 coal power plants ever fill up with coal

[upper gale]

Better to turn them off until they're full

[golden nexus]

if there is enough input

[clear tartan]

ive overclocked the one drill and the last 3 seem to be just working

[golden nexus]

how many gens, what belts? and what miner speed?

[clear tartan]

8 gens on the one side mk2 belts and 150 coal a min

[upper gale]

That's enough coal
Well you only need 120 but yeah

[molten cove]

i started my factory up now we wait for the furnaces to fill up

if only i had faster belts

[golden nexus]

So whats 15 * 8?

[upper gale]

And then just need 360 water

[clear tartan]

well 15 * 10 is 150

so

[clear tartan]

120

[quiet lintel]

Happy New Year! 🥳

[upper gale]

mk2 belts only hold 120 as well

[golden nexus]

yup so overclocking to 150 do nothing for you....

[clear tartan]

so would mk3 work better when i get the stuff

[upper gale]

Happy new year, I still got 12 and a half hours till mine

[clear tartan]

and mk2 lifts are fine to use arent they

[golden nexus]

Just clock it to 120 and it should balance out, like go do something else in the game for about 20-30 minutes and then look at power graph see if its still spiking

[clear tartan]

i still need to finish the other half of it

[fleet moss]

I just scanned a hard drive and I have the options either bolted Iron Plate or Wet concrete I have lot of concrete but not a lot of reinforced iron plates but it takes more screws and iron plates to make them which is 18 iron plates and 50 screws and makes 3 reinforced iron plates what should I choose or should I just rescan

[white dawn]

There are more hard drives than you can use on the map. My recommendation in the absence of personal preference is to just flip a coin, pick whichever one the coin tells you to, and then go find more hard drives. :)

All the recipes are at least situationally useful. Of those two, I expect you'd find the widest preference among players going to Wet Concrete, but that depends on if you want to use refineries (and water!) for concrete. :)

[mortal ginkgo]

I personally suggest Wet Concrete. Some good recipes asks a lot of concrete. Wet Concrete gives so much compared to regular recipe.

[white dawn]

Keep in mind, of course, that you're going to continue to make more and more concrete, RIPs, Screws, plates, etc, throughout your playthrough, as you build up more factories. :)

Doesn't really matter what you have right now because you're basically always going to be building out more.

[fleet moss]

Am currently needing to finish phase two

[upper gale]

turn off all gens
connect the correct amount of input of coal and water
connect biomass burner to water extractors to prefill all pipes and coal gens
connect biomass burner to coal miner and wait until all coal gens are full of coal (or put the coal in yourself)
turn on all gens and have it power itself. then remove biomass burners

That's how I do it

[fleet moss]

It doesn't say what I can make the wet concrete in

All it says is "produced in:" and that's all

[mortal ginkgo]

Refinery, next phase building. You will love it a lot. You will learn to love it.

you will be bound to love it.

[real shale]

no.....no.... please no im sick of seeing them

me looking at the new factory and the most efficient design happens to use refineries once more

[mortal ginkgo]

But the problem is, its not sick of seeing you, big dog.

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to make 60/min nuclear pasta when the time comes. What do you think future holds me?

Constructors? My Mom? Anime?

[ornate saffron]

I feel this. I needed 1000 refineries for a build last month lol

[white dawn]

Refinery Simulator 2000

[real shale]

I dont even know what that is

[ornate saffron]

I think going forward im going to decorate my refineries on the blueprinter so they look diffrent for each factory

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh Lord have mercy upon thine innocent heart. I hope you never know.

[molten cove]

fuckkkkk i need mk 4 belts 😭

[real shale]

I havent made one yet, I need to unlock particle enrichment first

[zealous urchin]

you will loose domain expansion clash

[rustic scroll]

is anyone able to help me figure out my train issue please

[zealous urchin]

and then itachi totska blades ur fuel gens

but big dawg 60?

[golden nexus]

Whos idea was it you put a sloop in the middle of a uranium deposit

[clear mesa]

Outheal it

[golden nexus]

I tried and failed

[real shale]

sloop...singular?

i swear i've seen multiple sloops and mercer spheres in the middle of uranium deposits

[clear mesa]

Yeah it's like the step up from being in the middle of that gas

At least in terms of when you get the gear available to fully negate the effects

[real shale]

its like how is there only 6 uranium nodes in this map yet it feels like its covered in the stuff lmao

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to connect multiple items to a single dimensional depot and avoid clogging it?

[zealous urchin]

i was there

it was me

[clear mesa]

Usually the temp stuff you need to break

They make sure those suckers spawn right on it

[real shale]

I don't think so, you'd have to be able to empty the depot of an item its full of

[grizzled lotus]

ok

last few runs I played I was just hoarding mercer spheres to research the tree entirely. this time people told me to use multiple dimensional depots, and man it is such a nice thing to have

[clear mesa]

Yeah although id definitely still do the stack upgrades at minimum

The transfer speed at 120/s is fine

[grizzled lotus]

ah, stack upgrade. I'm doing both at the same time

I have the last two left, I need a lot more spheres to finish them

[clear mesa]

Either way is fine but having more items available is usually what I prefer over faster transfer

[grizzled lotus]

best part is after I do that I'm free to build more and more dimensional spheres

[clear mesa]

Yep once you set enough depots for all the major building materials

You feel like you're playing creative mode

[grizzled lotus]

oh, I don't have nearly enough for that. most of my basic stuff I put in a depot manually

I have a depot for for some far away outposts since I forget them all the time, and a couple of others for elevator parts

[clear mesa]

You put elevator parts into a depot?

I just have a factory which makes all my essentials and sends each part to its own dedicated depot. (Plates,rods, steel beams, concrete, plastic etc etc)

Essentially anything that's required for building anything from architecture to production

So I never have to go back and forth to build anything

I also obviously have one for ammo and fuel for jetpack

[grizzled lotus]

well, I don't have that many spheres, so I have to choose. I chose elevator parts since I was close to finishing a phase and the full dimensional inventory told me the factory is full. though I might change that now since I have a long way to go (just unlocked phase 4)

[clear mesa]

Ah

Yeah phase 4 will test you

I got stuck there for a while

[grizzled lotus]

the materials that are created on my base I don't bother, since I can pick them up and load them myself

yeah, phase 3 there was an uptick in difficulty and phase 4 seems worse

[clear mesa]

Yeah it's just nice since to deal with phase 4 I forced myself to learn trains

Blueprinted some rails, and with the depot was able to just build a full double rail around the world

Without ever needing to go back and forth for materials

Which is also why I prefer the stack upgrade over transfer speed btw

[clear mesa]

Lool you'll get through it but it will definitely make you conscious of your weak links in your factories

For me it was logistics, was too dependent on conveyors

However you can also just send everything on conveyors if you really wanted to anyways..

[ornate saffron]

Let's go!!!

I tend to rush from mk2 to mk4 conveyors.

[upper gale]

mk4 is like my favorite, even though is a bit harder to make

I think it's just the number 480, works with many things for me

[ornate saffron]

Same.

[mortal ginkgo]

mk3 belt also works with many recipes 🙂‍↕️

[molten cove]

well i need them for my factory to work 😭

and im no where near end of phase

[strong fiber]

I got mk 5 belt

[mortal ginkgo]

big dog aura farming

[molten cove]

i was building and i thought to myself

one floor = 120 iron / minute

i got 4 floors

so i just need to overclock mk2 miner

and i completly forgot about the belts

[strong fiber]

on a normal node

[molten cove]

so half my shi is useless

[molten cove]

on a pure

[strong fiber]

or a pure

Im used to having mk3 miners

[golden nexus]

just run 2 belts, 1 to the first 2 floors another to the 2nd set

[strong fiber]

But it’s one node

[golden nexus]

get another node

[strong fiber]

thats what i was thinking

[unkempt blade]

underclock everything to 50% and save some power cost

[zealous urchin]

1% type shhh

🔥 🔥 🔥

[strong fiber]

Underclock to 50% then sloop them to get ur output back

[lapis dome]

is htere anyway to restrict the size of a storage? like factorio so i dont everproduce and fuck my resources?

[unkempt blade]

same production for more power is the way!

[golden nexus]

Nope, Just the box that there is what you make

[strong fiber]

power wont be a problem for me

and i finally got super computers turbo motors and cooling systems automated

after i rebuild my starter factory probably gonna move out of phase 4

And into phase 5

[unkempt blade]

are you going to optimize the number of factory carts it uses?

[strong fiber]

yes

0

100% optimized

[unkempt blade]

it's the year of the cart for a large chunk of the world at this point and you're not prepared yet!

[strong fiber]

I dont even have them unlock in the awesome shop

[unkempt blade]

the miragian zodiac demands correct vehicle usage

[unkempt blade]

who hurt you? why do you hate fun?

[strong fiber]

what would i even do with them its not like im building some giga factory

Belting something is faster then setting up a factory cart

[oak nymph]

How many coal generator do y'all had during phase 2

[strong fiber]

like 32

[oak nymph]

All 100%?

[strong fiber]

yes

[mortal ginkgo]

16, fueled with compact coal this run with power shards. It was nice power. I recommend at least 32 with regular coal if it fansies your doggos

[oak nymph]

Where did you get da water

[mortal ginkgo]

Almost all coal is near water

[strong fiber]

a lake

[unkempt blade]

maybe faster but not very efficient for funmaxing

[oak nymph]

I got some it was 1km away

[upper gale]

Either use smart splitters to remove the excess and sink it, or use a lower tier belt to restrict the amount of resource outputting

[strong fiber]

maybe i build some factory carts running around but they dont do anything

[azure garnet]

Am i cooking chat

[upper gale]

Over producing isn't really a concern in this game (i haven't played factorio tho so idk what you mean)

[unkempt blade]

I like to build them a skatepark then record a few routes that do tricks but nothing productive and have them run a few different routes

[unkempt blade]

more food for the sink! the coupons must flow!

[strong fiber]

Why would i do allat when im trying to save the puppies and kittens

[zealous urchin]

turbo cart skate park

🔥 🔥 🔥

[strong fiber]

Overclocked factory cart

[unkempt blade]

I wish I could overclock vehicle and hypertube entrances. Those are my feature wishes

oh and mk3 pipes to fix everyone's pipe woes

[upper gale]

I know what you're doing
You're trying to add nitrous to factory carts! xd

[unkempt blade]

I kept asking to be able to weld jetpacks onto carts but the devs never delivered 🙁

[upper gale]

Funni

[zealous urchin]

[upper gale]

Btw what was that teaser they put in their recent youtube video?

[unkempt blade]

bring on the pipocolaypse!

[upper gale]

Fixing fluids?

[strong fiber]

They added fluid truck

its gonna be in 1.2

[unkempt blade]

it looks like a truck with fluid like you'd do with freight cars on trains but I choose to believe it's the mk2 factory cart being teased

[upper gale]

I saw that but what about the other shots they showed

It looked like just normal pipes

[strong fiber]

i dont even know

[unkempt blade]

I would guess they'll tell us more in streams after the holidays but I'm not sure anyone knows more than the teaser right now

[strong fiber]

They said they weren’t adding any more progression to the game to no tier 10 or anything like that to probably no mk3 pipes

[versed cosmos]

If trucks are gonna be able to transport fluids I really hope they get the ability to take liquid fuels too

[strong fiber]

just use coal

[upper gale]

I thought for a sec "is it that the pipes are missing pumps, so maybe they removed headlift?" but then it's like... the examples they showed didn't need headlift anyways

[versed cosmos]

I don't even use trucks lol

[strong fiber]

early game u dont even get oils anyway

[strong fiber]

Me neither

[white dawn]

The teaser video continued to only show a belt input for fuel, fwiw

[strong fiber]

because then i gotta rebuild everything to for a train network anyways

[unkempt blade]

I actually love using tractors to transport coal using coal fuel to power coal generators

[white dawn]

(Doesn't mean that they're through tweaking it, of course)

[oak nymph]

Should I pile up my coal generator?

[strong fiber]

whatchu mean by that

[zealous urchin]

the slander will be legendary

[white dawn]

Why not just let your vehicle routes continue to be vehicle routes?

Remember that "rebuilding" is always a choice, not a necessity! :)

[versed cosmos]

Trains better and cooler

[strong fiber]

because train go choo

[white dawn]

Sure, so build new trains for anything new that needs 'em! :)

[strong fiber]

Trucks stinky and un cool compared to trains

[oak nymph]

Like a tower of coal generator not wide but high like 8 generator per floor

[white dawn]

Tractors are cool too, etc.

[zealous urchin]

cars are underrated

[strong fiber]

probably

[versed cosmos]

Oh god no

Stacking coal generaotrs sounds like such a pain

[oak nymph]

Will I have problems with water?

[white dawn]

I do understand the desire to rebuild stuff; I used to be in that mindset too. But I've come to think it's a huge trap for the most part. Let your existing stuff be! There's plenty of room on the map for all sorts of solutions, etc. :)

[oak nymph]

I don't have enough space

[strong fiber]

If you dont have enough headlift u will

[versed cosmos]

Where are you building your coal power

[white dawn]

Your tractors and trains and drones (and belts!) can all coexist quite happily. :)

[strong fiber]

t-tractors?

[unkempt blade]

if people really want to nerd out in their save it's always interesting to compare the power cost trains vs other vehicles in terms of how much power it takes to generate the power + fuel (if anyone) for each to run

[oak nymph]

On a lake with a waterfall grass biome

[white dawn]

The first vehicle transport you have available. I'm a huge fan; they're great for Phase 2 logistics!

[versed cosmos]

That area has plenty of space

At least do 8 generators per floor

[white dawn]

You eventually unlock a Truck which has more carrying space, but I admit I rarely if ever use those. You unlock 'em right around when you unlock trains, and if you need more capacity on a tractor route you can always just add another tractor.

[strong fiber]

I just use belts because last time a used a tractor it glitched out and flew under the map

[unkempt blade]

because running trains actually have a resource upkeep cost it just kind of gets abstracted away a little more (as only power cost) than fuel-consuming vehicles do

[oak nymph]

No not where I have there is lot of trees rock and rock in the way

[strong fiber]

Then get rid of rm

[versed cosmos]

But we all know factory cart is the best transport method

[oak nymph]

I'll send a picture #math-and-meta

[strong fiber]

They can only pull 150 MW max so

[unkempt blade]

You're clearly ready for the year of the cart! Happy hollandaise!!!"

[white dawn]

Yeah, I know I've seen plenty of people complain about problems like that. I've literally never seen it myself ever since The Great Vehicle Rework Of Update WhateverThatUpdateWas though

[versed cosmos]

huh i dont recognise that spot

[unkempt blade]

yeah one of the reasons I like vehicle routes is they're basically self-healing as long as you're not standing right next to the vehicles

[upper gale]

If they were electric trucks (just uses power instead of fuel) would you use trucks more?

[strong fiber]

Was trying to bring over some iron and it flew into the abyss because it got stuck on a railing and collided with another tractor

shit was funny asl

[strong fiber]

That would be op

[white dawn]

Unlikely, no -- I don't consider fuelling vehicles to be a problem; there's always tons of options for that. It's more just that trains already excel at high-volume transfers, and the expandability potential of rail is huge. So if I'm unlocking something else at about the same time as trains, trains are almost certainly gonna win out more

But, as I say, I do love my tractors.

I continue to build out the odd tractor route even well into the lategame, where appropriate

[molten cove]

so i have a factory producing 20 rp how do i get 15 of that into other factory

[unkempt blade]

in my recent saves I'm already transporting fuel to stations around the map so it wouldn't make a huge difference but for a new save electric trucks would be MUCH simpler to setup on a large scale save

[white dawn]

Sometimes I've got a need for some shorter logistics where trains or drones just seem like overkill, so tractors step up for me. :)

[versed cosmos]

build 15 plates/min at the new factory

[lapis dome]

yay i tamed the lizard doggoo!

[strong fiber]

Use a smart splitter

[lapis dome]

can i tell him to sit?

[strong fiber]

no but hes cute

[white dawn]

No, though you'll probably want to build a Doggo Enclosure to keep 'em in one spot; they're easy to lose otherwise

[strong fiber]

Also why are you assuming its gender

it could be a her

[unkempt blade]

Drones are what I really wish were power-only. They're much more annoying to provide fuel for imo

[strong fiber]

How u gonna power something that’s flying in the sky

[white dawn]

How so?

1. Build fuel depot with a drone port or two or three (without a drone "assigned" to 'em)
2. Have fuel-fetcher drones to fetch fuel wherever it's needed.
3. 

[unkempt blade]

rechargeable internal battery

[white dawn]

Drones are the least-infrastructure-required logistics method out of everything in the game, IMO (yes, including belts!)

[strong fiber]

And if they were power only they would have a battery which would be limited so drones could only take things from a limited distance

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg wants something reusable in a game with infinite resources, kek

[lapis dome]

cause i named im cooper so hes my boy now

[strong fiber]

build a enclosure for it

[unkempt blade]

Yeah I'm not a fan of X# drone stations for moving resources + 1 dedicated to fuel. With the power cost of the drone ports it makes me much more reluctant to use them before I have huge scaled up power

[lapis dome]

does he just follow when he wants to?

[unkempt blade]

and then if you add in the cost of generating the fuel... it just seems silly for their throughput

[mortal ginkgo]

Let something that goes from one spot to another one in the sky have SOME downsides plz

PLZ. BLZ BRO.

[unkempt blade]

the small inventory/limited throughput is the downside 😄

[upper gale]

That's if you make the battery limited. Cuz like currently the trains have a big enough "battery" to make it all the way to the next station "electric locomotive" unless its getting power from the rail while it's on it but yeah

[white dawn]

Yeah, they'll follow you around, but know that they can take damage, including fall damage, etc. Though if your doggo does meet an untimely end, remember that they will respawn (but will require re-taming)

[strong fiber]

They dont have a battery the rails carry power

[lapis dome]

well then his pathfinding must have bugged cause hes still as a rock and doesnt want to follow

[white dawn]

Eh, IME the extra drone-port requirements for fuel-fetching is hardly noticeable at that point. And you've also got practically every power option available in the game at that point

[strong fiber]

Which is why if the rail network power is disconnected the train instantly turns off

[upper gale]

It does but do the rails transfer power to the train while it's on the rail

[white dawn]

Though to be fair, I'm also of a mind where I'm always overbuilding power in the game.

I never want to be in a situation where what I'm building is limited by the power I'm generating, so I always make sure I've got way more power available than I need

So perhaps that colors my opinion of Drones somewhat. By Phase 4, a paltry 100MW per port is nothin' for me

[upper gale]

Yeah true

[white dawn]

Heh, could be. I admit I'm not personally very experienced with doggo behavior; I've only ever tamed one

(Oh, nope, two! I figured I'd do one for the achievement once 1.0 dropped)

[clear tartan]

what are the different options of splitting things between things

[white dawn]

I generally prefer to avoid it altogether and just have separate banks of machines for stuff, even if I'm centralizing production to a degree

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'd frame it as somewhere north of 300MW just to get one "real" resource-delivering route running where the actual throughput is going to be something like a few hundred items a minute which maybe not be huge if you're fully scaled up rocket fuel or have nuclear running or whatever but is a significant fraction of factory power if you're like just grinding along with diluted fuel

[white dawn]

So like if I've got a Rotor factory which wants to supply rotors to two different things, I'll have one bank of rotor machines making x/min specifically for one export, and another bank of machines making y/min specifically for another

Underclocking/overclocking lets you set exactly the rates you want. That way you avoid having to "split" up resources at all. Set yourself up for simple A->B transfers and you're golden. :)

[molten cove]

so i got one but i cannot set up amount

[upper gale]

• manifold
  that is all
  (joking)

[clear tartan]

i want to try make frames but i want it to be up and running quite quickly

[clear tartan]

i mainky use manifolds lol

dont want to with this though

[nova cloud]

I'm having an odd issue with blueprints. I created my blueprint as I did in 1.0, took it to the place I wanted to build, and when I clicked the button it ate resources, didn't build anything, and gave me the error I didn't have enough resources when I most certainly did at the start. What is causing this, and where did my resources go?

[white dawn]

I mean, again, at that scale it honestly just doesn't impact me at all at Phase 4+. My last save was approaching 100 drone routes by the end

[molten cove]

i repeat my question how to get 15 rp out of 20 rp

[clear tartan]

even though my amount of machines i need to split it between is a max of 4

[white dawn]

Like, who cares? It's just power. You've got effectively infinite power anyway; what else are you gonna spend it on? :D

[molten cove]

i want 5 going in one place and 15 in the other

[versed cosmos]

One splitter into two and those two into two again

Merge 3 and you'll have 15

[upper gale]

Maybe you need to create a balancer of sorts, if your machines have different input amounts

[clear tartan]

what would that balancer look like though

[unkempt blade]

for my 1.0 save that amount of drones would be at least 10% of the total power capacity 😆

[white dawn]

I agree that if you build power more conservatively then it might be more of an issue, of course. :)

But overbuilding on power is something I've never even remotely regretted. :)

[upper gale]

Highly depends on the situation. But it's just splitters and mergers until you get the numbers that you need
Oh yeah and lower tier belts if needed

[molten cove]

ima wait to get a decent amount of them into my chest then move whole production there

[clear tartan]

like i need to supply 52.5 iron ingots to 4 constructors for rods

[eager tusk]

Is the Iron pipe alternate recipe any good? instead of 5 steel I need 20 iron

[versed cosmos]

iron pipe alt is incredible

one of the top alts

[silk tinsel]

Hello and one quick question: can one Freight Train loaded multiple time with different train stations so that one train can collect all spare parts from every single trainstation with on freight container?

[unkempt blade]

don't balance it, just use a manifold and it'll balance itself over a short period of time

[clear tartan]

ok

[unkempt blade]

manifolds "saturate" eventually which is when all consumers will be running at full efficiency

as long as you provide the amount of resources they need

[eager tusk]

Bet. GOt another choice for you.

Steel rod alt
1 steel ingot = 4 steel rods

Or
2 reinfocrced plates and 10 stee; pipes for 3 steeled frames

[versed cosmos]

i dont find either of these useful personally

i'd leave in the mam until you find a use for them

[eager tusk]

Okok

[upper gale]

so then the 4th constructor needs to be underclocked. Since you actually need 60 total but only got 52.5

[near nacelle]

Question: I have a constructor making iron rods, I have a Mk. 1 belt going to another constructor to make screws, why wont the second constructor take from the belt? i have power going to both constructors

[versed cosmos]

try rebuilding the belt

[clear tartan]

yes

also should i power it as i go or

[versed cosmos]

also the constructor for screws needs 10 rods/min but your constructor making screws outputs 15

[near nacelle]

trying to automate smart plating

[versed cosmos]

you dont need to fully automate it initially

[clear tartan]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production if you need this it is useful

[versed cosmos]

just build an assembler with containers attached to the inputs and feed it by hand

[placid stirrup]

It's good practice for newer players

[versed cosmos]

yeah agreed

[crisp barn]

if you had a 600/m and a 400/m pipes, how would you balance them to both be 500/m?

[unkempt blade]

1. is it already full of rods
2. is a recipe selected
3. is power connected (wire) or toggled off (button in the menu when you click into the consturctor)
4. if all else fails try deleting the conveyor and connecting it again

[upper gale]

I used to power it as I build, it's useful to see where things are going, but nowadays I power everything last usually because I already know what will happen. But up to you

[near nacelle]

on im phase 2 where you need 1k smart plating so trying to automate so then i can afk the smart planing

[molten cove]

why do i feel like most of the players never make it past phase 2?

[ornate saffron]

You need 4300 smart plating across all phases so I set it up and forget

[unkempt blade]

• even after you're done with elevator packages the spaceship parts are great to sink for points

[near nacelle]

anyone want to come help me maybe rearange my setup and help me automate the smart plating

[placid stirrup]

• layout machines, amending factory space as needed
• add belts and other logistics, redesigning as needed
• bring resources in
• power
  Is my standard workflow

[versed cosmos]

sure ill join you

[upper gale]

Yeah that's good. I do the same except maybe bring resources in first lol

[ornate saffron]

I made a spreadsheet off all the parts I need per phase. I kept on sinking to early lol

[unkempt sable]

how should i split my sulfur and coal into black powder and compacted coal? do i need alot of black powder in the long run or should i have more priority towards compacted coal for turbofuel and stuff

[placid stirrup]

I only save on that step in case I can elegantly bring them in on the correct side

[crisp barn]

?

[white dawn]

I'd advise against making black powder for its own sake, beyond what's required to do the MAM unlocks

[ornate saffron]

Black powder is mostly used for pioneer equipment. Ammo and nobilisks

[upper gale]

Fair yeah

[unkempt blade]

yeah I get them all automated at least at a trickle pace and sometimes I steal from the extras to rush awesome shop stuff I want for pretty factories 😆

[white dawn]

Once you need Black Powder to make some ammunition types, build out the production line then

[unkempt sable]

o

[white dawn]

(based on however much of the ammo type you want to make)

[unkempt sable]

turbo ammo is best right

[placid stirrup]

Not for crabs

[ornate saffron]

My starter factory always turns into a sink factory. I don't tear it down. But once I make a new factory to go directly into depots its no longer needed

[ornate saffron]

Its personal choice I like homing

[placid stirrup]

Or spiders

[white dawn]

"Best" is subjective. Try them all out, see which one(s) you prefer!

I generally like having all of them available for various situations

[unkempt blade]

I like turbo but I tend to just pump the trigger instead of holding it down. The real answer is probably that all ammo does different stuff and there's not really a "best"

[white dawn]

(though personally I'm not super fond of Turbo since it requires more skill than I'm generally willing to put into it. But, y'know, your experience could be different. :)

[unkempt sable]

mm so should i just produce like 10 black powder/min then put the rest into compacted coal?

[white dawn]

Like "best," "should" is subjective. :)

[molten cove]

honestly i hate reinforced plates so much

[white dawn]

As I said earlier, personally I wouldn't recommend making Black Powder just on its own. When you want to make something that needs black powder, just make some black powder right inside that new factory you're building.

[drowsy kelp]

What’s wrong with them

[placid stirrup]

You better learn to love em soon

[unkempt sable]

alrighty

[molten cove]

you need a huge factory to generate a decent amount perminute

[drowsy kelp]

HA

Just wait and see

This is your first time playing, isn’t it

[unkempt blade]

I don't think automating ammo is the worst idea I'd just make sure you're sending it to the depot and overflowing the rest into a sink so you can get points when it would otherwise be idle

[molten cove]

#screenshots message

allthis for a 40 per minute

and i cannot even use it fully cuz of lack of mk4 belts

[placid stirrup]

It's a great idea. I should really do the full arms factory like I envisioned

[drowsy kelp]

I see a lot of empty space

[placid stirrup]

Is it 40/min with or without the mk4 belts?

[unkempt blade]

for me personally I use so little ammo sometimes I'll just set it to handcraft when I go to get a new coffee or something

it's one of those things like filters for the mask where a stack or two lasts me a really long time

[molten cove]

it theoreticly 40/min

[placid stirrup]

But SO annoying if you ever run out

[white dawn]

Yeah, automating ammo (and any other consumable you plan to use) is well worth it. Black Powder on its own I'd argue less so, unless you plan out way in advance exactly how much you intend to use for the rest of the game. :)

[unkempt blade]

I'm a basher enthusiast so I always have my backup weapon 😄

[drowsy kelp]

Currently i’m stuck handcrafting them even though i burn through them because the demons with 8 legs are near the sulfur i need to use so I can’t get close enough to place a miner

So we do the same thing for different reasons

[placid stirrup]

Work for ammo, not so much for filters 😂

[placid stirrup]

Retaliate OP

[drowsy kelp]

1: they’re still terrifying and i hate them 2: not my game, I can’t control that

[placid stirrup]

It's a setting you can change, actually

[unkempt blade]

hand depositing them into the depot works great to make sure there's extras

[drowsy kelp]

Interesting

[molten cove]

online games sounds fun

maybe ill download the online patch?

[drowsy kelp]

That still doesn’t solve the problem of I can’t get near them because they’re terrifying tho

[molten cove]

theres arachnophobia mode

makes them png of a cat

[placid stirrup]

You can turn them into cats if you really want as well, but it's never bad to conquer a fear

[drowsy kelp]

They’re too unpredictable to nobelisk, rebar is pretty useless on my internet, and rifle isn’t long-range enough to get them from where i’m safe

[drowsy kelp]

I already use it

[placid comet]

No shame. I'm not afraid of spiders per se and even I get the willies from stingers

[drowsy kelp]

I’m fine with spiders

Just not stingers

[placid comet]

Fair. I applaud the devs for taking the creepiness of spiders to an 11

[drowsy kelp]

Only time i ever killed a stinger that wasn’t running it over was nobelisking it from 115m away when it was stuck in-place

Throwing nobelisk long-distance is fun

[upper gale]

I play on passive really cuz I'm just trying to chill and think factory stuff mainly

[upper gale]

Yeah it is

[drowsy kelp]

If you time a jump right you can send it flying

[upper gale]

Especially when you land it correctly

[upper gale]

Ah neat

[drowsy kelp]

You have to start throwing a nobelisk a bit before you jump because throwing the nobelisk has a small delay

It’s not hard to get reliably once you know what you’re doing

[drowsy kelp]

The biggest problem is probably they can get me from far away, i’m not safe up in my power towers

Also once i didn’t know there were two elite gas stingers up a ledge i was going up to, they immediately got angry and leaped at me, in a panic i fell off the cliff

So… there’s that

[placid comet]

Been there

[drowsy kelp]

That all happened in about 7 seconds from landing at the top of the power tower to dead on the desert floor

I just stopped playing for a few hours after that

[placid comet]

However, I like to get back at hogs the same way. I play matador with them on the end of cliffs and watch them plummet

[drowsy kelp]

If the hog isn’t nuclear i have no problem with it

[twin helm]

Anyone got tips for buildin vertically, got a really good design going and dont want it to end up being a huge box

[placid comet]

Depends what you want to get out of the building. There's a many number of ways you could approach it

[mortal ginkgo]

everything is a box in the end, it all depends on how detailed you make the corners

[placid stirrup]

What about a dome?

[mortal ginkgo]

box with a dome

[upper gale]

Most builds are kinda just fancy box with pillars around it

[drowsy kelp]

Who says you have to put on walls or have all the floors be the exact same size

Experiment, see what works

[unkempt blade]

the open-sided inverted pyramid is peak verticality

[sudden flint]

Styles I've seen that I liked:

• roof, no walls, like a gazebo
• multiple small buildings in conjunction

[unkempt blade]

the important thing is you make whatever it is really really colorful

[placid comet]

Play with builds and ideas. As much as you see beautiful factories in videos, what they don't tell you is they take days of experimentation before settling on something

[zealous urchin]

never i expected that inverted pyramid will haunt me not only in weightlifting

[drowsy kelp]

I… guess that fits what i described

I was thinking more one of the factories i built

A photo would probably get the idea across better

[mortal ginkgo]

#design-and-architecture message

I agree, here are my WIP pretty boxes

[unkempt blade]

the signs as lights really class the place up

[zealous urchin]

u can literaly check out any architecture ever made on planet earth in google

[upper gale]

Some very nice boxes

[placid comet]

Yo I love the trims. I have to steal that

[mortal ginkgo]

Thenk chu, though I am a bit overzealous when it comes to using them

[unkempt sable]

is it possible for me to use 3 stations along 1 railway? or do i have to make a big loop? i kind of want the train to go from station A (load) -> C (unload) -> C (load with different freight platform) -> B (unload) and repeat

[zealous urchin]

box with neon lights

[spiral wasp]

Anyone have a good layout for smart plating for phase 2?

[upper gale]

What is the floor by the way, is it mostly asphalt?

[unkempt blade]

one of the reasons I really like blueprints is it makes it so much easier to do stuff like that with signs and other decorative stuff #screenshots message

[mortal ginkgo]

yupp all aslphalt

[upper gale]

Neat

[unkempt blade]

you'd need to do like A(load) -> B1(unload) -> B2(load) -> C(unload)

[mortal ginkgo]

I agree, but I am overzealous with signs on my blueprints as well. This one made me go mad because I hate how refineries are.: #design-and-architecture message

I still need to lower the amount of signs...

[unkempt sable]

hmm alright

ty!

[unkempt blade]

are some of those like steel frame pillars around groups of signs?

[clear tartan]

i need to put rods and screws into assemblers but its like i dont want to make a huge mess of it

[mortal ginkgo]

yep, they are pretending to be "power pillars"

[unkempt blade]

looks very cool

[mortal ginkgo]

steal it

[real shale]

Okay the 1900 aluminium casings/min factory is now running....for now.... Now begins the feedback loop trial and error

[mortal ginkgo]

gg, bro cooked

or GOT cooked, time will tell

[drowsy kelp]

#screenshots message this with the big pillars and stuff

it's better than a cube™ imo

[real shale]

Now I can make heat exchangers

.....right after I connect another 72 fuel generators

[zealous urchin]

🫸 #screenshots message 🫷

[placid comet]

Oh boy... Now I see why nuclear is difficult to manage. The process to just make uranium rods requires a whole facility of its own, let alone cleaning up after them

[zealous urchin]

sry wrong person

[zealous urchin]

@mortal ginkgo does this pleases the big dawg so far

[mortal ginkgo]

very sex, big dawg

much kinky, ultra lewd

+18, needs spoilers tag

[zealous urchin]

unironicaly Big Dawg is a religion at this point

[mortal ginkgo]

big alpha male energy

we are going phase 7 with this one!

[zealous urchin]

🫸🫷

[worthy ruin]

Hello i bought the game 1 hour ago. and i have a small question. can i ask it in here?

[mortal ginkgo]

yep

[worthy ruin]

i have a lot of christmas pressents where can i trade ?

[white dawn]

That's part of a seasonal event which runs through January 17. I'd actually kind of recommend turning those off for now ("Disable Seasonal Events" from the main menu settings)

There's a lot to take in in the early game, and you almost certainly want to be in Phase 2 power before building FICSMAS factories

[worthy ruin]

okay okay!

[white dawn]

If you get to Phase 2 with some time to spare prior to Jan 17, then you could re-enable and play around with it. If not, you can always join in next year (or use a mod to enable the event whenever you want)

[worthy ruin]

noo noo i just want learning the game

is a very hard game and i like to learn step by step

[white dawn]

Though, mechanically: for the event, you'll have an advent calendar set up in your HUB, and a new research tree in the MAM. You use items from the advent calendar to get through unlocks in the MAM. :)

[mental raft]

do you guys think satisfactory should make one of those start up movies for steam deck

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO FICSMAS on top of getting through Phase 1 would be way too much all at once. :)

[worthy ruin]

hahah yyeah xD

ahh i turned it off! thank you very much it takes a lot of space in my inventory

[white dawn]

Hah, yeah

Can just trash 'em for now; easy to get more if you do get back to the event

re: screenshot picture -- that's one of the planet's resident Factory Inspectors™; they'll be around later to judge your work. :P

(they have a habit of annoyingly standing near where you're trying to build. A few zaps will generally get them moving though)

[worthy ruin]

oh ohh xD i need to work faster !!

thank you very much for explaining! i am really apriciate it

[placid comet]

Oh yea they're friendly, but I still shoot them anyway

[half atlas]

Do the trees and grass respawn?

[placid comet]

I assume so every time the server resets, though I don't have a controlled instance I can cross reference

[placid stirrup]

They do not, intentionally

[half atlas]

Damn, so Lorax was right

[magic rune]

yeah, eventually the only biomass you'll have left on the planet is the wildlife...

[white dawn]

If you want "renewable" biomass, remember that alien remains give you a lot

(And if you regret deforestation and you're on PC, you can re-generate using SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map), though I believe that's an all-or-nothing operation)

[placid comet]

Though it's not an issue. Unless you're wasting biomass on purpose, you'll never run out before you unlock coal power

[magic rune]

at one point i came up with a crossover headcanon that Terra Nil takes place on a planet that ficsit had already drained dry, and you were a "values drifted" pioneer that set out to restore the world your predecessor had destroyed

[white dawn]

In the past, certain kinds of map updates have caused inadvertent foliage regrowth, too; you could wait and see if v1.2 ends up doing one of those. :D (Though I believe they think they've fixed that now)

[white dawn]

I'd argue that even if you are wasting biomass on purpose, you're still gonna die of boredom before you literally deforest the map. :D

[magic rune]

from my understanding, it works on a "list of what you've destroyed" model, and if an update changes how that list works or is referenced, the save-conversion will replace it with an empty list. plant life existing is the default state

(also has the side effect of, the more you deforest, the larger your save files become and the longer they take to load!)

[molten cove]

I HAVE FINALLY AUTOMATED EVERYTHING FOR PHASE 2

[unkempt blade]

that's happened (on accident) during game updates a few times during EA

[molten cove]

it makes me consider if the game is really for me

[unkempt blade]

you can also restore plants using SCIM

[sage nacelle]

is underclocking and overclocking machines to achieve the exact amount of things i want normal?

[molten cove]

ur supposed to be doing it

[magic rune]

which probably just "empties the destruction list on purpose", thinking about it

[white dawn]

Yeah, clocking is one of the best tools you've got

[sage nacelle]

oh great also is 10 reinforced a min and 20 rotors a min good for phase 2

[molten cove]

yeah

[white dawn]

(Though you don't have to use it if you don't want. If you need 540% construction of something, you could just set up 6 machines, leave 'em at 100%, and live with the fact that they'll collectively go idle 10% of the time)

[sage nacelle]

also how do i find hard drives efficiently cuz like a lot i see on maps with all of them are on mountains i cant reach

[white dawn]

Foundation ramps, ladders, catwalks, eventually jetpacks, power-tower-with-zipline, etc, etc.

In the end even the lowly foundations can get you anywhere. :)

[magic rune]

that's the thing, you're not supposed to be able to reach all of them at first, especially since a lot of them require unlock materials from up to Phase 4

[sage nacelle]

i disagree

[white dawn]

Unless you're playing on peaceful/retaliate, the biggest location-gate is the local wildlife, really

So long as you've got building materials you can get anywhere

[clear tartan]

what sort of fuel is easiest to put in a truck station for trucks

[white dawn]

The easiest automatable fuel for vehicles is coal

[clear tartan]

mmm coal

[white dawn]

I'd argue that Packaged Fuel is about ideal for vehicles, in terms of ease-of-production and fuel longevity, though that requires being a little ways into Phase 3

[clear tartan]

what would you say is a good use for the trucks

[white dawn]

For my automated tractors I rarely use anything except coal or Packaged Fuel

For self-driving vehicles I'll "upgrade" to more advanced fuels as I unlock 'em, but that sort of doesn't count

[white dawn]

Bringing materials from A to B. :)

[clear tartan]

short or long distance?

[white dawn]

Short-to-medium.

[worthy ruin]

for karl!

[clear tartan]

ill eventually have to resort to using them wont i

[white dawn]

(To be clear, though: my vehicle experience is like 95% Tractors, not Trucks)

[clear tartan]

when i said trucks i did mean tractors

[white dawn]

Personally I think vehicles are a great logistics option in Phase 2, and continue to have niches even once you have trains+drones

Though once I have trains/drones unlocked, the majority of my new logistics definitely goes into those, instead

[placid comet]

Pretty much. Unless you're bringing trucks out a far distance, you really don't need more than coal, but fuel is reasonable enough package up

[white dawn]

You're definitely not required to use 'em. A lot of folks avoid them. They do have a not-insignificant learning curve

It can take a bit to get used to using them effectively

And yeah, coal gets you further than you might think! And 1.0 added a bunch of new coal nodes for us, to boot!

[clear tartan]

i do use a tractor just to get around because its easier

[placid comet]

I mean hell, I took my explorer out with a full tank of turbo. I drove halfway down the map, came back and had more than a 3/4 tank

[clear tartan]

i just realised that the tractor has a horn

[placid stirrup]

Homie's got that premium

[placid stirrup]

Pretty sure all vehicles do

[unkempt blade]

if someone wants to be sweaty about minmaxing power/resource usage there's always conveyors but some amount of vehicle usage makes the save a lot more interesting

[magic rune]

speaking of coal, i recently found out that one single mod plus two base-game recipes, lets you make literally infinite biomass. ||Wood into Biomass, Biomass into Biocoal, and then the modded recipe is "Coal-Reverse-Process" Coal into Wood||

[golden nexus]

Yeah, Its a nice way to break the game

[magic rune]

my current playthrough is a "mod it until it crashes" kinda thing, and i've got some crazy-go-nuts setups already, just in Phase 3

[clear tartan]

any way i can split iron rods evenly or?

[unkempt blade]

I've thought some sort of "automated greenhouse" or something that has a power cost but generates biomass would be nice to have just as a choice for people who feel like using biomass later game for something

[white dawn]

If you do decide to invest in some vehicle-based logistics, a few pointers:

1. IMO it's not worth building roads. Use the map's "natural" roads. That imposes some limits about your available routes, but it's worth it.
2. Vehicles will dock at any station they get close enough to. It's easiest to design "drive-through" truck stations to avoid accidental docking.
3. When recording routes, don't bother trying to manually load/unload. It's weird when driving manually, and unnecessary -- when a vehicle stops at a station, the station will do what it's configured to do.
4. If you stop for awhile while recording, you'll end up with a blue "pause" node on the route. If you see one of those, delete it (can go up and interact with the node). Blue pause nodes have a bug which can cause the vehicle to get stuck there, currently
5. Keep "lanes" in mind, and try to not have vehicles cross at more than 90° angles

[golden nexus]

Sure you can split anything you like

[clear tartan]

just want it evenly though

[golden nexus]

From what?

[clear tartan]

3 constructors

[white dawn]

I always recommend just making exactly what you need. If one line needs 20/min rods and another needs 50/min, just have one set of machines making exactly 20/min rods, and another set of machines making exactly 50/min rods.

Use underclocking/overclocking to get the numbers to match exactly

[golden nexus]

Yweah so if you split it 3 way it will be split evenlly 3 ways

[white dawn]

In the absence of that, though, you can just make 70/min total and "manifold" it across whatever is using them. It'll even out eventually

[magic rune]

i think CSS has said that "part of the intent of SF" is that you're building factories at the cost of the environment, hence plant biomass being non-renewable and there being no "green" power sources like wind or solar... but that's what mods are for

as to your specific thing, look into Ficsit Farming, it basically does exactly that!

[worthy ruin]

when do i unlock a car?

[white dawn]

Tractor is unlocked during Phase 2; I believe the Explorer (more of a "car" type vehicle) is available via the MAM as early as Phase 2 as well

[unkempt blade]

yeah I personally race for coal and don't look back but I know a lot of players like using liquid biofuel for the jetpack where automating biomass might be nice at some point

[worthy ruin]

okay okay phase 2 😄 yeah sometimes i walking so much

[golden nexus]

Its also to tie the player to a constraint to give the player something to game against, like the early phases of the game mean the player has to be able to setup biomass burners correctly and their factories have to be correct for rotor/rplate to advance at a reasonable pace

[magic rune]

indeed, phase 1 is basically a race to get through as fast as possible (no full-auto power, for one thing), and phase 2 is when the real fun begins

[queen slate]

Just finished my 10 computer/m factory

[unkempt blade]

you should probably figure out another way to handle this

[queen slate]

🙁

[unkempt blade]

<@&387163995947270144> this might be one for you all

[placid stirrup]

Thanks I was mid ping

[queen slate]

Maybe dm him man

[ivory condor]

<@&387163995947270144> maybe this needs to be cleaned up?

[placid stirrup]

Looks like Baine is on it?

[ivory condor]

Hopefully the mods see the pings soon

[north cloud]

Knock it off

Do it again imma ban you

Nope bye

[placid stirrup]

HAHAHAHAHA

[sullen cloak]

alo

[queen slate]

Hello

[placid stirrup]

That was pretty gangster

[placid comet]

Hallelujah

[queen slate]

Ty baine

[north cloud]

Np

[sullen cloak]

so I bought the game and I feel need to turn off...that scary warning

[placid stirrup]

That you've been playing too long?

[queen slate]

Oh the 2 hour thing

[sullen cloak]

about....14 hours....
struggling on coal
no steel atm

[placid stirrup]

Do you want the easy button guide for coal power?

[sullen cloak]

sadly I cant send screenshot in here

[queen slate]

There is a ss channel

[placid stirrup]

If only a place like #screenshots existed

[sullen cloak]

okie lets move there

[placid stirrup]

That's media only. #1038092680493801533 for if you want help

[white dawn]

No, please don't do that. As Tsunami said, #1038092680493801533 is far better

[placid stirrup]

@sullen cloak do you want the coal power guide?

[queen slate]

Yes mb

[white dawn]

#math-and-meta and #design-and-architecture also allow image embeds, for questions appropriate to those channels

[mystic plank]

is there like known best spots to start off? like good iron and copper near together or smth like that

[sullen cloak]

were exactly I should make new post? at least I can have my own chat bubble

[old bramble]

Hey so is Stitched Iron Plate a good alternative recipe? The other option is Charcoal for wood which I think is kinda worthless atm. So should I save/reroll/load?

[queen slate]

There is a satisfactory map of you wanna see where clusters of nodes are

[white dawn]

Any of the starting zones are fine starting locations

[sullen cloak]

ill show you my coal setup im not sure if im doing ok

[placid stirrup]

Anywhere you start will have good starting nodes. It's all a matter of preference and familiarity with the game - "harder" starter locations may be devoid of some resources or will have more baddies

[placid stirrup]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[sullen cloak]

wait what was the app version of this?
I forgot the name

[white dawn]

While there are some folks who find use for Charcoal (and Biocoal), yeah, most folks are turned off of those two since they involve non-automatable resources. Apart from those, all alt recipes are at least situationally useful. (And, as I say, there are those who find even Charcoal+Biocoal useful, though)

[mystic plank]

okok i see, last question for now uhh, does the game have only 1 map? like everyone has the same map?

[white dawn]

I admit that personally if I get a roll which has both Charcoal+Biocoal, that's the one case where I'll happily let that drive sit in my Library for the whole game. :)

[placid stirrup]

Correct, handcrafted (not procedurally generated)

[mystic plank]

also all the ore nodes? same types?

[old bramble]

I prefer automation when possible. Should I just take Stitched or save/reroll?

[placid stirrup]

Yes. SCIM has a map with all resources you can sift through when you get curious

[white dawn]

Yep! Many of the ore deposits (the ones that go away after you chip away at them for a bit) are randomized, but the automatable nodes are all fixed

(It seems likely that we'll get an alternate game mode in v1.2 which will randomize node locations, though I don't know if that's been 100% confirmed yet)

[white dawn]

Up to you, in the end! Stitched is nice, IMO. Try it and see! :)

[mystic plank]

ooh when will it update

[white dawn]

Targetted for sometime between Feb-Jun 2026, though time will tell if they hold to that. :)

[old bramble]

I mean Stitched seems miles more useful

[mystic plank]

aight bet, thanks yall i appreciate the answers 😄

[white dawn]

There are more drives on the map than you can use, btw -- you can pretty easily get all the available alt recipes

You can even buy drives from the AWESOME shop eventually, if you don't want to spend the time exploring

[placid comet]

I have noticed discrepancies between my game and the interactive map. Either there is an element of randomness or the map is outdated

[distant pulsar]

basic rule of thumb is 3 water extractor to 8 coal gens

[white dawn]

So IMO don't stress too much about recipe selection. Just pick one and then go find more drives. :)

[old bramble]

I know that. I just don’t know what are the ‘good’ recipes 😂 I’m a console noob.

[mystic plank]

oh wait i got one last question :>, can i somehow change the alt+scroll thingy? for the hotbar coz i want it to go to 2nd hotbar if i scroll down instead of 10 ;-;

[white dawn]

Make sure you have "Stable" selected for the game branch. SCIM is accurate. If you have "Early Access (Update 8)" selected then yeah, there'd be some discrepancies

[old bramble]

Should I use #1038092680493801533 for like alt recipe opinions instead? Because I have seven drives and I have no idea what recipes are worth it or not.

[sullen cloak]

any improve design?
#screenshots message

[white dawn]

All alt recipes are at least situationally useful. If you have no opinion, really, just flip a coin

[ivory condor]

Problem good is relative, some exceptions though for sure, like solid steel ingots alt

[distant pulsar]

yeah you can improve that by putting 8 coal gens in a row, and hooking up the 3 water extractors you have to them.

[white dawn]

They let you change one resource for another, or use more resources to save on complexity, or use fewer resources at the cost of complexity. There's always a tradeoff, and there really isn't such a thing as a "good" or "bad" recipe.

[mystic plank]

nvm bout this yall, found it in settings

[ivory condor]

Because solid steel ingots is objectively good in any practical use, with no actual downsides

[white dawn]

There are certainly recipes which are best for a specific situation. Like I'm building over here and all I have is Iron + Caterium, so I guess this recipe which lets me use Caterium instead of Copper is useful

But even if you have a recipe that you love, you might not always use it, depending on the situation of the factory you're building

[old bramble]

Alright.

[white dawn]

(Technically Solid Steel introduces some extra complexity, and I think slightly increased power demands. There is a tradeoff, even if the majority of players don't care. :)

And anyway, as I say: there are more drives than you can use, and you can even buy drives from the shop later in the game. So don't stress about recipe selection. Just flip a coin if you're unsure, and then try it out when you have a chance. :)

[placid comet]

Very simple, very clean. So long as you do the math and get your ratios right, the only real improvement you need is expanding when necessary

[fading raft]

I mean. So is Compacted Coal. Yet I am always happy to get to that step before even thinking about fuel

[sullen cloak]

I feel like my OCD slowly taking over on me
I need like take a break on Helldivers 2

Satisfactory is really fresh start

[ivory condor]

Right but compared to most other alts, the trade off imo is very minimal

[white dawn]

Oh for sure; I too hop on Solid Steel as soon as I can. :D

Mostly just saying that there is a tradeoff, even if most folks won't care about the downsides

[fading raft]

In my current playthrough, I am trying to unlock it before even building steel factories

[unique pewter]

For someone who has only completed phase 1 atm, what is a decent output for modular cubes? Is 10/m good enough for now or nah

[white dawn]

IMO: make whatever you need Right Now, in the knowledge that eventually you'll need to make more. Don't stress out about how much you're making. There's no way to predict what you'll need in the future, 'cause it depends on how big you build, what recipes you use, where your factories are sited, etc

[sullen cloak]

I guess I dont need extra water pump

[unique pewter]

I just really don’t wanna tear down a huge factory and rebuild it later on

I make mine kinda big

[white dawn]

Then don't! I basically never tear things down (or expand them)

[fading raft]

My poor sweet summer child

[white dawn]

When you need more of something, just make more of it wherever is convenient (often just right inside the factory of whatever it is you're now making)

[unique pewter]

Yum

[white dawn]

(Once again I am edging towards Independency-advocacy. See also: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency)

[unique pewter]

I’ve been doing that

In case I need the other stuff to build with

[ivory condor]

Also good for average fps

[white dawn]

But mostly I'm just saying that if you're picking some arbitrary number, it's always going to be a guess. Unless you are just astronomically lucky, there's two outcomes:

1. You've underbuilt and need to build more factory anyway, or
2. You've overbuilt and some of that factory is "wasted" (although obvs if you had fun, then is the time really wasted?)

[ivory condor]

Having to much built in one area is generally not good for performance

[white dawn]

And either of those cases is fine; my point is more just that it's not worth stressing out about. There's always more factory to build, etc. :)

[placid comet]

Though there is one thing. You'll have the ability to overclock machines if you take the time to invest in alien technology from the MAAM. With that only one water pump should be able to handle those generators. By default a coal generator only needs 45 water per minute. A mk1 pipe can hold 300m of water. That's good for 6 generators

[fading raft]

Good to know there is a playstyle that I am currently on lol

[white dawn]

One possible clarification, btw: on an Independency-minded set of factories, whenever you start a new factory, you don't care at all about any of your previous factories. You wouldn't import anything, or steal some parts from somewhere else. The new factory would just go from ore->product and then be done, never to be touched again. :)

[unique pewter]

I usually do that

[white dawn]

A side effect being that, yeah, you're probably making Modular Frames in a dozen different factories by the end of the game. But you'd've had to make that much anyway, and this way you get to A) spread it out over the whole gameplay, and B) make use of other fun alt recipes while you do so, since your factories are more spread out

[unique pewter]

Actually all of mine do that, even my spaghetti factory I left in another area (I have a bunch of conveyors coming from it to my new place)

[white dawn]

(Eesh, and to be clear, since I feel like I'm ranting without meaning to: just one way to play, of course, and won't be for everyone. :D I don't even follow it religiously myself all the time. :)

[white dawn]

All good, I'll shut up. I think I'm just procrastinating on other things I need to do, at the moment, so I'm doing my usual torrent-of-words thing

[unkempt blade]

Megadependency is clearly a superior philosophy. You should be shipping every resource at least one complete loop around the map by train before dropping it off at a factory that depends on it

[unique pewter]

I like looking at spaghetti factories, but building them is a bit hard when they get huge

[sullen cloak]

I learn that Tractor is basically mini drone on land right?

[placid comet]

One of them, ye

[white dawn]

One of these days I'll get around to making my factory line which ships ore from NE Dune Desert to SW Grass Fields and back multiple times using literally every single logistics method. :D Been a stupid project I've wanted to do for years now but have not yet been able to convince myself to start on

[sullen cloak]

automaton...holy

[unkempt blade]

you give them delivery instructions differently but they're both vehicles that can move stuff at least 😄

[white dawn]

It's mainly the thought of running an 8km-or-whatever long belt which has kept me from doing it

[unkempt blade]

no spaghettipain no spaghettigain!

[modest creek]

is there some kind of splitter i can program so there is only 1 output active and then use the 2nd one only if the 1st one is full?

[white dawn]

Though I admit that recording a vehicle route for that is a bit daunting too (to say nothing of multiple vehicle routes, since I kind of wanted to use both tractors and trucks for it)

[unkempt blade]

yeah the route recorder for vehicles isn't the most user-friendly interface in the game 😆

[white dawn]

Mm, yeah, could get 8km if I site the remote end all the way over on Paradise Island, which sounds like a "good" idea

For definitions of "good" which are Dwarf-Fortress-"fun"-adjacent

I wonder which I'll accomplish first: that stupid idea, or my factory-carts-only factory.

[unkempt blade]

DF invented verticality though so there's that at least

[gloomy tusk]

Is anybody able to help me make a hypertube cannon please

[white dawn]

!wikisearch tutorial:hypertube cannon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=tutorial:hypertube+cannon

[gloomy tusk]

Thanks

Sorry I meant the circular ones

I’m kinda poor and need something cheaper

[white dawn]

Poor as in you don't have the building materials for a bunch of entrances?

If so, just, y'know, wait a few minutes for your production to catch up. :)

[clear tartan]

why do i have a ghost conveyor

[white dawn]

(And if you don't have those things automated, might be worth doing that first before building the cannon. :)

[queen slate]

Should I import some industrial cased beams over to my heavy modular frame factory

[white dawn]

Personally I'd probably make 'em onsite. But if you have extra with nothing else to do with them, sure?

[queen slate]

They just gonna get sunk if I don’t

[white dawn]

That's the kind of question that's entirely up to you, in the end.

[queen slate]

I think I’ll actually use trains for once and import them

[clear tartan]

why can i walk into a conveyor and it just doesnt think its actually there

[unkempt blade]

Ancient alien magic-technology. The story explains it

[gloomy tusk]

I also want it to fit on a blueprint

[clear tartan]

look in #screenshots

[unkempt blade]

Total xfiles behavior. Just remember that the truth is out there

[clear tartan]

mmm

[white dawn]

I assume a quit+restart would probably clear it up. Unless you're on multiplayer; could be a sync issue if that's the case

Otherwise, maybe you're the chosen one? Have you thought about starting a cult?

[clear tartan]

its decided to be a solid entity again

[clear tartan]

uh no

[unkempt blade]

Smart. Aliens don't like it when you take credit for their accomplishments

[gloomy tusk]

I appear to be in a situation

I got stuck in my hypertube launcher

Help

Oh noooooooo

I don’t have auto save on

Last save was 5 hours ago

How do I get out

[heavy mauve]

respawn?

[gloomy tusk]

How

[heavy mauve]

press esc, you get the option to respawn in the menu

[gloomy tusk]

Omg

Thank you so much

[heavy mauve]

np

[modest creek]

yo guys is there some kind of splitter i can program so there is only 1 output active and then use the 2nd one only if the 1st one is full?

[queen slate]

Smart splitter

Have whatever side the 2nd one is set it to overflow

You unlock the smart splitter with caterium

[modest creek]

thanks

[queen slate]

Np

Can railways go up?

Stupid q ik

Nvm

[placid stirrup]

Someone's trying to play Roller Coaster Tycoon

[gloomy tusk]

I built my satisfactory cannon but how do I make sure it doesn’t just shoot sideways

Anybody know?

[placid comet]

Finding space for multiple nuclear plants is gonna be a pain. Just one is a whopping 5x6 floor space

[gloomy tusk]

Do you know how to fix what I said please

[placid comet]

If you mean hyper tubes, I haven't really touched those yet

[candid ember]

What are u doing tonight during the new year guys, imma look for some Mercer spheres

[gloomy tusk]

It’s 2026 for me

New year was 8 hours ago

[candid ember]

Well u r Australian 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

I've ha friend from Perth

[primal obsidian]

dont spoil please

im still waiting

[candid ember]

I cheered him via message at 17:00 my local time lmao

[gloomy tusk]

I need someone to help me

I hate hypertube supports

[candid ember]

WHATS the problem?

[gloomy tusk]

Hypertube cannon launching straight

[candid ember]

Shiii can't help mate, never used hypertube cannon sorry

[gloomy tusk]

This is so annnoyong

[queen slate]

Build a foundation from the ground at the angle u wanna launch to then bring up foundation to where h want it

[hazy void]

is it possible to process plutonium waste?

[sullen gull]

Do you have the last bit pointing up?

Also, hallo erry one!

[sullen gull]

Yes. Can turn it into Ficsonium rods.

[hazy void]

and would that make "ficsonium" waste?

[white dawn]

No, Ficsonium is "clean"

Though it's very resource-heavy (particularly SAM), and doesn't provide much extra power

[hazy void]

also what is "dark matter residue"

[sullen gull]

Late tier liquid

[white dawn]

Gameplay wise, it's just another resource. Acts like a gas, though lore-wise it's something else

[leaden turret]

-# manta sharts

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I brainfarted, couldn't remember if it was gas or liquid

[sullen gull]

Is it even possible to kill that thing? 😛

[white dawn]

Anyway, forms part of the main "new" resource loop in Tier 9

[leaden turret]

technically yes ||https://jobs.coffeestain.com/jobs/6716454-experienced-3d-artist||

actually no.

[white dawn]

Have to manage it with Dark Matter Crystals and have a loop set up

[sullen gull]

Gah, why'd you have to send that! I want to apply and move to sweden now! 🤣

[leaden turret]

[white dawn]

Do eeet