satisfactory

[trim sundial]

....and now my line can be remade again...with exception of the rare need for copper sheets i think i just made my need for copper obselete.....love this game lol

[cunning glade]

This is a do u use ur left or right turn signals type of question

[pure snow]

I feel like it would be so good flying in the air shooting down

[cunning glade]

They both have different uses

[tame bobcat]

im confused what they do mb 😭

[feral jay]

I have a mod to increase the area radius, that Lorax would cower in fear if he saw my doingsa

[cunning glade]

It's okay primarily you'll use blocks

Paths are needed too but less often in my experience

[feral jay]

Yesw, for that, it's awesome, especially when you're feathering the jump key to keep yourself moving

[pure snow]

Trains are so confusing

[tall lantern]

Block signals 99.9% of the time. Path signals are very niche and usually unnecessary (and may slow down a system more than you gain)

[cunning glade]

Path signals basically only for a intersection

[tall lantern]

not even

[feral jay]

Always use block signals unless you can identify a specific reason for path signals

[tame bobcat]

blocks are the one that i wanna use if i have 2 trains using the same station for example?

[feral jay]

A train network can run entirely on block signals. Path signals do nothing but improve speed, and even then, knly in limited cases

[cunning glade]

Blocks wait untill the path infront of it is clear path signals look ahead of a block signal or a multiple I think too see if it's clear from my understanding

[tall lantern]

path signals can let multiple trains through an intersection at once, but in return, the trains may slow down before reaching it because they can't reserve the path early. So you may find an intersection with path signals runs slower than one with block signals, if it's rarely contended

[feral jay]

Build your network with block signals. If you can later identify a place where path signals would improve it, then consider path signals

If you start with path signals, you'll get frustrated quickly if it's your first foray into train signalling

[pure snow]

Can someone help me either trains, I posted a question

[tall lantern]

the only other time you might need path signals offhand is if you have bidirectional rails, but that's easily fixed by dualling the rail instead of fighting it with signals

[south canyon]

Are load times largely affected by storage technology

[tall lantern]

more affected by save size

[south canyon]

Moving from M3 Pro to i7-3770 and GTX 1060

[tall lantern]

the actual save file's pretty small, so I can't imagine disk speed is a huuuge factor vs actually converting that data into game data

[feral jay]

Disk speed is really not a factor with this game

It helps with loading textures here and there but that about it

And by god, new players have no idea how bad save and load times once were

Liek it took me a good sixty seconds at one point to save or load a game

[tall lantern]

lol yeah I had to turn up my autosave time because I spent almost as much time in autosaving as actual playing (slight exaggeration)

1.0 was so damn good for that

[feral jay]

I was impressively impressed with how much they improved it with 1.0

[fallow phoenix]

o/

[south canyon]

My drive sounds like my sleeping dog

[tame bobcat]

ok wait i think i understand block signals, it just divides an area up into chunks and checks if a train is in it or not

[feral jay]

yup that's about the extent of it

[tall lantern]

pretty much. trains won't enter a block if that block's already occupied

break your track up into blocks, trains happy

[south canyon]

Shall I reconsider installing on a 2010 1TiB HDD

[tall lantern]

given the rest of your specs I'm not sure it'd matter

[trim sundial]

GAH. I just spent like an hour exploring and i told myself i wouldnt return to base until i had 8 hard disks. I returned with 9 and im glad i did but i regret it also because its RUINING set up i had lol

[feral jay]

It won't make much difference, I have it running on a five year old spinning rust drive and the game runs great

[south canyon]

Can’t complain t h, it’s a free PC

[feral jay]

Hey sweet, my 9 year old nephew just built the space elevator

[tall lantern]

protip: scan the drives while you're out

[feral jay]

Got him the game for xmas

Just saw his steam achievemnt pop

[tall lantern]

don't have to wait til you get back. in that hour you could've scanned 6 of those 😛

[south canyon]

Not sure it’s age appropriate though…

[tall lantern]

it's fine, the swearing's censored

[feral jay]

For a 9 year old? eh, it depends, he's quite good at these kinds of games and has a mind for it

[gloomy tusk]

its good that you got him the game

[wise junco]

gotta teach em young

[hasty stump]

just got my baby computer factory up and running, i love factories that produce enough residual fuel that they are net positive power contributors

[gloomy tusk]

for a 9 year old it would be fun and would still be mentally challenging at times so i don't see why it would be bad to get him it

[feral jay]

The fact that he opened the game on the 27th and built the elevator on the 29th tells me he'll be able to figure the game out, and also that he's enjoying it

[gloomy tusk]

im working on steel factory right now actually

[feral jay]

I helped him out with "d00d you really want to craft the chainsaw" to help get him through the begining stages

[south canyon]

It’s the parent’s decision to allow it, and I don’t quite agree with the 16 age rating, but it is rated 16

[gloomy tusk]

do you think it should be older?

[feral jay]

heh his parent is my sister and I checked with her first

[south canyon]

No

[feral jay]

(and brother inlaw who does all the gaming stuff for them)

[gloomy tusk]

does anybody know the optimal place to build a steel factory

[marble flame]

can any1 just hop in a call rq and lmk if im heading in the right direction with my factory, I have about 3 hours in and wanna know if im optimizing correctly

[gloomy tusk]

in the first map on the left

[marble flame]

or I can share ss

[south canyon]

Rocky desert

[feral jay]

Don't worry too much, this game does not punish mistakes

[gloomy tusk]

ok thank you

[feral jay]

aside from falls from great heights, anyway

[gloomy tusk]

is there coal and iron there

[white dawn]

heh, not even then, if you're at full health! :D

[south canyon]

There Are 4 coal nodes nearby and 4 pure iron

[feral jay]

lol there's even an achievement for that, ||take 99 damage|| I think

[south canyon]

Been a long time since Ivplayed but I think the 4 coal nodes are impure

[gloomy tusk]

in the red place? in the grasslands map right?

[south canyon]

All the same map, just different areas

[pure snow]

I hate the red place

[feral jay]

THe coal nodes near water in the rocky desert are 2 normal and 2 pure I think, there's plenty of coal available there

[south canyon]

You can get to Rocky Desert form the grasslands

[south canyon]

Those two I am using for coal power but yeah that would be a better option

You will need conveyor lifts to get the coal down

Also there is a SAM/Quartz node nearby

[pure snow]

What is he trying to make

[south canyon]

Steel factory

Heard something about computers so mentioning quartz

[marble flame]

am I able to upload a ss of my factory in here or somewhere else

[south canyon]

#screenshots

[dense violet]

literally every other channel can have images

[marble flame]

shit mb

[gloomy tusk]

should i build a hypertube launcher

[south canyon]

Trains are autistic

But sure I guess

[white dawn]

"Should" is up to you, as with basically everything in the game. :)

[south canyon]

Never built a hyper tube launcher, only used then “normally”

[dense violet]

eh, they're basically an exploit but it's also a sand box game

[white dawn]

Cannons are certainly popular, and even though I'm not really a fan, I'd recommend you at least build one once, for the fun. :)

[gloomy tusk]

how dare you

not exploiting something in a sandbox game

[dense violet]

eh. it's a dumb exploit

[pure snow]

Also if you’ve never been close to it good luck getting back with your stuff

[south canyon]

Hypertube laisnchets are an exploit?

[feral jay]

More like a bug from UE4 that people exploited, and loved so much that Coffe Stain reintroduced that bug in UE5

[hasty stump]

the devs themselves endorsed cannons, didn't they? (even though they didn't initially intend/foresee them)

[feral jay]

I use the mechanic for "express hypertubes" more often than tube cannons

[south canyon]

How do you plan them

[gloomy tusk]

i set up cannons so i can launch myself into hypertubes so i save resources

[white dawn]

They became sort of officially unofficial with Update 8, yeah. An Unreal Engine upgrade broke them, but after some community outcry they took the time to re-implement them so that folks could still use them (though some pre-U8 styles of cannon remain technically broken)

Prior to that they were in a state of "we won't intentionally do anything to remove them"

[pure snow]

I learnt that you can place splitters and mergers on conveyor lifts the other day

[feral jay]

!wikisearch Tutorial:Hypertube_cannon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Tutorial:Hypertube_cannon

[gloomy tusk]

really?

[feral jay]

LOL

[pure snow]

Yes

[gloomy tusk]

how long have you been playing

[hybrid nymph]

@untold plinth I like your setup that you did with the coal generators in #screenshots
I never thought to put a single water extractor for each overclocked generator. That's a really good idea instead of running them all off the same pipeline, You random each off of their own pipeline.

[pure snow]

I have 300 hours on the game.

[hybrid nymph]

Good for you, I've got 570 on steam

[gloomy tusk]

how did you only figure out that today

[hybrid nymph]

Me?

[pure snow]

I wouldn’t of figured it out if it weren’t for a random TikTok

[untold plinth]

<:

[white dawn]

I mean, it was a new feature introduced in v1.1

[untold plinth]

ty boss

[white dawn]

There's a lot of features in Satisfactory which aren't necessarily obvious; folks discover old functionality after hundreds of hours pretty often

xkcd.com/1053 applies even to video games that folks are enthusiastic about. :)

[feral jay]

yeah it could really use an in-game ADA-style continuing tutorial for the more esoteric UI features

[pure snow]

Like you can connect conveyors and train tracks in blueprints to nearby ones with the auto connect build mode

[hasty stump]

i was probably 100 hours into the game before i realized you could do this (saw it on a youtube video, i was like WHAT?! game changer!)

[gloomy tusk]

with the truck or whatever its called (not the train) if i set up another station for it does it figure out a safe path to take?

[pure snow]

You have to manually lay the path which sucks

[white dawn]

Honestly I feel like it's probably a hard problem. Like any given person is probably gonna be aware of like 90% of it, so even if they had something like that I suspect that most folks would get bored and turn it off, or whatever. :D

[feral jay]

You win 150 Internet points today

[white dawn]

You don't want to have to sit through thirty minutes of tips you already know about just to get to the one that's new to you, etc

So yeah, honestly not sure how best to communicate that kind of thing in-game

Glad I'm not the game designer having to figure that out. :D

[dense violet]

with trucks you really want to plan out factory locations with terrain that suits trucks

[feral jay]

Like "did you know if you hold RMB you can split inventory any way you like?" Stuff like that that really isn't abvious

[dense violet]

most people get turned off trucks because they lack planning and they don't work out

[pure snow]

If you misplace a build, before confirming it you can press right click and it will delete it without having to reselect what your trying to place

[lusty topaz]

How many ppl can be in a game?

[feral jay]

I'm turned off of trucks because trucks are evil

[hybrid nymph]

Hey random question? How do you use the inventory hotbar at the bottom of the screen?

[hasty stump]

trucks even rhyme with sucks

[pure snow]

1-9

[feral jay]

By default, 4, but that can be changed in a settings.ini file or somesuch

[hybrid nymph]

I've never used it before?

[lusty topaz]

Ah ty

[pure snow]

Hover over a build in the build menu and click a key I think

Then just click the key whenever you need that item

[real shale]

thats satisfactory

oh wow, okay thanks discord for not sending me to bottom of chat again

[dense violet]

tips

you have multiple hot bars yo ucan scroll through with mouse wheel and alt

also, when you press like 5 for 4m foundations? if you hold E it'll bring up a radial menu of similar items to pick from. Really helps condense hot bars

[feral jay]

Yeah just have a single hotbar item for "power nipple", and then use E to change from your slef selected default nipple

[pure snow]

Is there any way to auto build mk2 power poles when using the wiring thing

[dense violet]

build from a mk2 pole

[pure snow]

😔

[dense violet]

but also, probably should just use mk1s, less cable nightmare

[feral jay]

Oh, actually, i did have a question... is it possible to change the material you're building with, with a hotkey somehow? Like from Ficsit orange to concrete? I seem to recall there is but I can't remember how.

[dense violet]

hold E for radial menu, right click through materials

[calm plaza]

bro I was playing on my first save ever and ran into an alpha stinger and was TERRIFIED

[white dawn]

Can also right-click on the material in the Customizer and set it as the default for whatever category of building you want

[calm plaza]

I thought stingers are bad enough ToT

[feral jay]

Nah all I get is Ficsit foundations if I've already selected a ficsit texture foundation from the hotbar

[white dawn]

Even after hitting right-click? I didn't remember the key myself, but there should be a little indicator off to the side of the radial menu telling you the key to hit to cycle materials

[feral jay]

I can change between 1m/2m/half foundations etc, but not from Ficsit to concrete

[white dawn]

The radial menu itself will be all the currently-selected material, but you should be able to cycle through

[feral jay]

I use right click a lot for that yeah

[pure snow]

How much power do I actually need

I’m about to finish phase 3

[feral jay]

I just seem to remember there being a hotkey combo somewhere to change building materials

[white dawn]

Depends how big you build. Folks have, I believe, finished the game on nothing but biofuels

[dense violet]

just tried , it's working for me

select a foundation

hold E

while holding E , right click

[feral jay]

All the power

[pure snow]

I would genuinely rather die

[south canyon]

How

[feral jay]

Yes, that's it, thank you

[calm plaza]

oh what the fu-

[white dawn]

Technically you can finish the game with one of each building type. :)

[pure snow]

Imagine getting to like tier 9 and running out of bio fuel

No more greenery to demolish

[white dawn]

Just have to be patient and keep switching out recipes (along with, presumably, some handcrafting)

[feral jay]

I missed "right click while holding E"

[calm plaza]

just defoliating the whole map for fuel

[pure snow]

Fr

[white dawn]

Wildlife provides a lot of biofuel. :) Renewable even if the trees/plants aren't!

[calm plaza]

what on the hunter gatherer

back to monke i see

[feral jay]

I just passed 100k stockpiled liquid biofuel. I want all the liquid biofuel.

[pure snow]

Biofuel sucks

I hate it

[feral jay]

Not for jetpacks or backup bioburners it doesn't

[calm plaza]

😭

[south canyon]

Jet packs run off fuel too

[feral jay]

Yes, but liquid biofuel is far superiour

[pure snow]

You wouldn’t need backup gens if you used nuclear or fuel gems

[south canyon]

It is???

[calm plaza]

anyways I was drilling for oil and came across this massive dead sea-esque biome

[feral jay]

No, I don't need backup gens, but I'm an engineer. If I don't have a backup for the backup of my power, I don't have power.

[calm plaza]

and turbofuel and rocket fuel I think

[pure snow]

All types of fuel work for jet packs

[earnest ember]

can i ask questions here? my questions doesnt't require a forum

[pure snow]

Idk about ionised tho

[pure snow]

Yes

[feral jay]

Yes, we like questions from new players. Welcome.

[earnest ember]

i just got the game and im curious i saw a video where the person had 2 nodes right next to eachother, is that pure chance?

[dense violet]

the map is static

all nodes are always in the same place

[calm plaza]

I think that works too

[feral jay]

No, the map is entirely hand made and there is no randomness

[pure snow]

The map is always the same, search for satisfactory calculator

For a map

[calm plaza]

yea and there are plenty of adjacent mineral deposits and etc

[earnest ember]

ohhhh i see now yeah im in a sandbox i just realized

[pure snow]

I’m going to go to sleep now, bye guys

[feral jay]

@earnest ember it's also a spectacularly gorgeous map

[earnest ember]

im in the beginner map and wanna plan a conrete farm, thanks

[feral jay]

Best map of any game I've ever played imo

[tired cypress]

I set up some machines at my hub to turn leaves/wood/mycelia into biofuel. Basically only use it for vehicles but I'm drowning in it

[feral jay]

There is only one map

[earnest ember]

really? is the options at the beginning just different parts of it?

[tired cypress]

The map is just huge

[earnest ember]

ahhh i see

[tired cypress]

Yep

[feral jay]

Yeah, it's just different spawn points on the same map

[dense violet]

treat the tiers like a long tuturial - the milestones are guide posts. Mostly just learn until you unlock everything

[earnest ember]

wow it is huge

[tired cypress]

You can finish the game multiple times and still not have even really explored the whole map

[calm plaza]

I really like it when game devs design their game like this

[feral jay]

Yes, it is. You'll never run out of space in this game.

[earnest ember]

will i have to move my hub in later parts of the game?

[tired cypress]

No, but you can

[feral jay]

No, but you can if you want to

[golden nexus]

yes

[calm plaza]

nah

[golden nexus]

more like you will want to

[earnest ember]

i definetly will, im only near one impure sandstone node

[feral jay]

Some games I move my "base" closer to the geographical centre of the map once I pass phase 7 or 8

[tired cypress]

Mine usually stays in one place other than being moved around a little within that general area when I remodel

[calm plaza]

wait are there are other rock deposits than limestone?

[feral jay]

There are half-dozens!

[calm plaza]

oh wow

just finished automating motors recently

[earnest ember]

thanks a ton for the help guys

[golden nexus]

You never really exploered then?

[calm plaza]

I think I explored plenty bits of the map but never really saw things like sandstone deposits

I went to this green foggy forest and saw some crazy ahh green spiders and got scared

and this dried-up sea looking place

[feral jay]

Elite gas stingers

Those fuckers are nasty

[calm plaza]

I might have arachnophobia I guess

[feral jay]

I've got a couple hundred hours on this save and only killed 3 of them

[feral jay]

The game has an arachnaphobia mode, they become pictures of cats, and meow instead of hiss

They'll still kill you though

My ||cybertruck|| is broken, it can only turn left

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

[dense violet]

it's a feature

[feral jay]

I will demand a refund

[dense violet]

people haven't had much luck with that

[sullen verge]

time for luminum
had about 10 HDs to scan for alts while I set up the basics of the new factory

[feral jay]

Luminum...

That sounds like an awesome fantasy element

Kinda like unobtanium, but a bit more easy to find

[sullen verge]

now I want to make a factory in the shape of a magic circle for the eldritch processes that make luminum

[feral jay]

Talk to @dense violet

[dense violet]

doable I'm sure

[feral jay]

Oh come now, that was an invitation to show off a circular build of yours or two

[dense violet]

eh, it wasn't really asked and there wasn't enough specifics in what they wanted to know if it would be helpful

'magic circle' is vague

[sullen verge]

I'll save the aesthetic building for another time.
All my builds so far are a crime against art

[dense violet]

fair 🙂

[feral jay]

I am far worse, my builds are an insult to all art

[dense violet]

just planning and practice 🙂

[feral jay]

Nah I just go with "brutalist"

I embrace it

[dense violet]

brutalist is great, but you still want to plan things out for layouts

[feral jay]

Wait what? I need to plan?

[sullen verge]

there's that, and then there's floating platform spaghoot

[feral jay]

Why didn't anyone tell me?

(as I sit here planning out various ways to build out this save's first aluminium plant)

It's either a computer factory or an aluminium factory next, but if I build the aluminium factory first, then the computer factory can be built with Mk.5 belts

[real shale]

#screenshots message I cannot believe it took me this long into the build to find out

[feral jay]

Find out what?

[real shale]

i will let you play the guessing game

[feral jay]

(not obvious from the screenshot)

[real shale]

there is a very big problem in that image

[dense violet]

only if you didn't want to merge outputs 😛

[real shale]

i did not

[feral jay]

LOL

n00b

[real shale]

i only JUST found out because my conveyor lifts were going the wrong direction and i was like "wait what, whats going on here"

[feral jay]

Crap, I don't have pure aluminium available

[sullen verge]

time to go HD hunting^

[real shale]

whats funny is these are aluminium refineries

I was wondering why my pipes werent just straight runs

[feral jay]

I have two I haven't scanned yet, and a boatload of rerolls still available

[feral jay]

Yes but I'm thinking I want to design this plant around pure alumiunium

[sullen verge]

I went a bit overboard with my ACU build and used it to make 5/m extra of oscilators, circuit boards, computers and heavy frames #screenshots message

8 impure iron nodes feeding it all

[feral jay]

I don't automte those until late game usually

[real shale]

we shall never speak of this error in my design ever again

[sullen verge]

we shan't speak, but we shall enshrine it

[feral jay]

Reference it by metaphor only

[real shale]

You know im looking back and im realising there was so many hints given to me that didnt click to me that the refineries were the wrong way around

[sullen verge]

it happens
I still had to spend an hour to debug the ACU factory. Missed belts, bad auto-connects, things not powered.

[feral jay]

haha shit, I jusst marked three or four hard drives to scavenge, but I got lucky and just unlocked pure aluminium

From my last hard drive haul of a whopping two drives that I forgot to scan

Eh, I'll go get 'em anyway

[sullen verge]

I still have about 80% of the map to go and explore <.<

[primal obsidian]

whats the point of makin blocks taht are like 20-30m why cant i have super long blocks

cause if the train waits longer it picks more stuff up

[dense violet]

10 foundations long is fairly common for blocks? doesn't change much though having short or long ones

[primal obsidian]

yknow since if it waits longer the stations fill up more

so the train will get more resources and bring them bacck

[feral jay]

LOL I forgot about this feature of the gardener's toolkit I have installed, type /sorryhannah into the chat window and it respawns foliage

[dense violet]

at long as the path and set up has enough throughput it'll balance out

[primal obsidian]

ok

[feral jay]

wtf, loaded my game, went to go grab a beer, and when I came back, I was falling, then I landed and I was dead

haha spawned right next to a hog that threw me off a cliff

[primal obsidian]

????

what my trains just decided to go in loops in these 2 overpasses

[feral jay]

You're playing the game wrong, and ADA is punishing you

[primal obsidian]

hmmm maybe i should diconnect it and reconnect it to the network

[feral jay]

Hello, IT, have you tried turning it off and on again?

[primal obsidian]

this will work trust me

[supple drift]

Reorganized my desktop and satisfactory gets it's own pedestal on my desktop.

[feral jay]

Where's the doggo? (or the username does not check out)

[supple drift]

Where's the doggo in what way

[feral jay]

See username

[supple drift]

Eepy sleepy in the Ficsit brand solid concrete cube

[primal obsidian]

hey it worked

[primal obsidian]

mimimimimi

[jagged nymph]

theres 3 things i suck at in satisfactory:

• balancing belts
• layout of factories and machines
• making things not look like a pile of shit

[feral jay]

IOW you suck at all the things

[jagged nymph]

yeah 😔

[supple drift]

What I would recommend for making things not look bad is build the factory and then enclose it in the depths of the building never to be seen again. As long as it works you never need to see it again.

[jagged nymph]

true

[feral jay]

Build everything underground and leave the planet untouched

[jagged nymph]

and everytime i start a new save i start to get overwhelmed at like phase 3

[feral jay]

Or build sky platforms, and only ever go to ground to mine stuff

[jagged nymph]

still havnt finished the game yet

[supple drift]

Or better yet build my horrifying looped hypertube railgun and just send yourself to the project assembly platform
Why do we even need the planet I'd rather be on the space disc

[feral jay]

Try just setting up temporary production for the project parts and feeding it from containers

[jagged nymph]

no i must automate everything

everything

[feral jay]

As do I. Except project parts

[lapis shadow]

In early game do you guys just have all your different node farms separate? Like you have to just run a little bit to reach whatever resource you need? There seems to be no way for me to really localize everything to one spot with getting a huge spaghetti-fest. From what I can tell it looks like maybe trains are able to alleviate that but I think I'm far from trains

[dense violet]

make little factories and use some long belts. It's not hard. And it's basically just a tutorial for you to learn the basics

[feral jay]

This is the game's basic challenge.

[supple drift]

Satisfactory has seriously been the best game in my collection since I bought it during Update 3.
I absolutely LOVE this game with all my heart. We do happen to be missing golf though.

[white dawn]

Building "central storage" can indeed be a tricky logistical challenge. I recommend exploring to find Spheres out in the wild and start to research them; they lead to a technology which eventually basically replaces the need for "local" storage

[jagged nymph]

true...

[white dawn]

I'm personally a fan of building out Central Storage solutions still, though it's definitely a labor of love nowadays

[feral jay]

It helps me a great deal to run all my belts on stackable poles, so I can run belt gauntlets later if I need to. That way, I doin't end up with belts all over the place, but neatly stacked belts instead

[jagged nymph]

i got it about a year and a half ago

[supple drift]

That is a large, LARGE part of the games starting structure. Space management has always been a big focus of building factories, and that doesn't just mean when they get larger. I'd definitely get some conveyor belt highways going when you have to concrete supply to do so.

[feral jay]

👆 belt highways are the way to go for basic organization

(IMO)

[supple drift]

Yeah, I never even considered the idea until update 6 and now my first save is such a spaghetti mess that it crashes the game. Don't know if belt highways would have fixed that but still. Up until the save broke, everything quickly became hell because I NEVER used belt highways until my second save.

[feral jay]

Belt highways help massively when problems happen. They're way easier to troubleshoot when belts are somewhat organized

[supple drift]

Honestly I haven't tried it, I wouldn't be surprised if the save can boot now with the new engine optimizations that have been implemented since then and the further ones to be implemented soon.

[feral jay]

?

[supple drift]

Sorry, getting used to my new keyboard still.

[feral jay]

d00d just buy cheap keybaords that you can afford to smash if you get hulk-angry

[gloomy tusk]

what does d00d mean

[feral jay]

*dude

[supple drift]

No I don't smash keyboards lol it was just an upgrade. Haven't had one in a WHILE.

[feral jay]

Possibly a North American colloquialism

Mostly I buy cheap keyboards because I'm stupidly hard on my keyboards and I'm a loud typist, so chep membrane keyboards work well for me

[supple drift]

I unfortunately am budget restricted to just laptops and this is the first time in a while I'm using an external keyboard instead of the one on my laptop

[gloomy tusk]

hey striek how long have you been playing satisfactory and do you play any other pc/console games

[feral jay]

It also happens to be awesome that I can smash my fists on my keyboard and it won't break the bank

[feral jay]

Since U4 or U5 or so

[earnest ember]

is conveyer mk2 faster than mk1 or is it like same speed but in stacks?

[supple drift]

Very nice keyboard though, Razer Black Widow V4 100%. Got some fancy lighting on it

[feral jay]

Console games that I play in front of the TV are usually JRPGs

[supple drift]

It moves materials faster by physically moving the belt at higher speed. Satisfactory belts always move materials one at a time.

[feral jay]

I've played quite a bit of Oxygen Not Included recently actually, but that game is just... unfinished

[gloomy tusk]

you can check in the build menu how many resources each conveyer belt or miner for each mk mines/moves per minute

[jagged nymph]

it physically moves faster

[feral jay]

!wikisearch belt

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=belt

[supple drift]

I use faster conveyor belts as the horizontal escalator things you see in airports sometimes... don't know if they actually have a special name... but uhm no it looks good and is actually very efficient for the little tunnel system i use in my facilities

[gloomy tusk]

walkways i think

[earnest ember]

okay i understand now, cuz im in a weird spot where limestone and copper are super far

[feral jay]

Moving sidewalks

[supple drift]

Dude I LOVE your PFP. Played slime rancher for a LONG time.
Amazing game. I should actually play it a little bit more.

Looking at the thing now I apparently only have like 200 hours in slime rancher... WAYYY less than I thought I would

Ooooh how many satisfactory hours does everyone have?

I have 994.6 hours

[gloomy tusk]

28 but i got the game for christmas

[feral jay]

haha that's #off-topic-general but what's everyone's top time in other games?

[jagged nymph]

only 248. i tend to get a satisfactory phase every few months

[feral jay]

I came back for ficsmas

[jagged nymph]

i started playing again cause my friend got the game

[feral jay]

I was dfoing a FFX playtrough before that

[supple drift]

Oh dude I completely forgot about it but they didn't add anything from last year so yk its whatever\

[gloomy tusk]

what does that mean

[feral jay]

Final Fantasy 10

It's like, arguably #2 of all time in terms of story

[gloomy tusk]

do you know if they will be adding support for cross platform

[feral jay]

I'm old enough to have played it when it first came out

[feral jay]

It's a single player game

[supple drift]

Honestly I wish I did instead of waiting for Update 3

[gloomy tusk]

in satisfactory

[feral jay]

oh

[sudden flint]

how to actually play this game instead of sitting watching people play it and fantasizing....

[feral jay]

Probably not, I think they've got cross-console down, but cross-console/PC is... difficult for logistical and legal reasons moreso than technical

[gloomy tusk]

legal?

[supple drift]

Update 4 actually came shortly after I joined but I wasn't paying attention to the update schedule so Update 4 appeared and I got the battery and was so confused that it just appeared without me unlocking it without realizing it was an update

[sudden flint]

corporations suck

[gloomy tusk]

is there a mod i can get to play with my brother on ps5

[feral jay]

You'd have to ask on a dev stream; it massively slows down the release cycle if you want to do cross platform

[supple drift]

Doesn't it work on cross platform?
You might need a dedicated server

[feral jay]

And it's not a technical reason - I can crossplay with mac or PC players from Linux, and xbox/PS players can crossplay

[gloomy tusk]

not mac

[supple drift]

Go into steam, library, open the sort and turn on tools to get into the satisfactory dedicated server app. And then find someone else to help you set it up because that's as far as I can get you, I've never set it up myself.

[gloomy tusk]

im on mac and i had to get special apps to allow me to becauxse its not on mac

[feral jay]

Speak for yourself; I could get this game running on a Mac, but I do that shit for a living, to be fair

[gloomy tusk]

i have a mac

[feral jay]

It's something I'm hoping to do for my nephews, I got them the game for xmas and they seem to really like it so far, so I think I could do a server for them

[gloomy tusk]

but what i mean is its not able to be played off native steam

[feral jay]

You're fired.

[gloomy tusk]

nooo

[gloomy tusk]

do you play pc or console

[feral jay]

I am Linux Man.

(so, PC)

[gloomy tusk]

thats so respectable

linux over windows any day

[feral jay]

Nah, Valve is respectable. THey made Linux gaming possible.

They are not without fault, but they absolutely made gaming on Linux a possibility.

[gloomy tusk]

valve steam machine

[feral jay]

I used to dual boot, because I needed Windows to play games. Valve changed that. I don't need to dual boot any more.

[unique pewter]

What is an effective setup to make reinforced plates

And uhh also the modular cubes

[dense violet]

figure out your end output
work backwards with your math

[feral jay]

That is too open ended a question to be effectively answered here

[dense violet]

planners are useful https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=vDN7pbOjxBdyMeYkJzqW

[unique pewter]

I meant like some tips to make it compact mb, tryna move away from spaghetti

[dense violet]

click the link

[unique pewter]

And are there effective ways to make it compatible later on is what I was wondering

[unique pewter]

Kk thx

[dense violet]

a plan for modular frames https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=WcMvTbSvEgNcHP87k24F

[feral jay]

"Move away from spaghetti" is a different problem from ""effeciently make heavy plates"

Learn how to separate those problems, and you will become zen at this game

[unique pewter]

I alr have, just don’t know how to keep it from becoming a headache again

[dense violet]

mostly jsut practice and planning 🙂 leaving space for belts , build on foundations

[unique pewter]

I have resources from old base coming in to new area

[feral jay]

Satisfactory is life. Tackle one problem at a time. Would you rather solve the spaghetti, or improve effeciency first?

[unique pewter]

I already fixed spaghetti problem, I am just wondering good ways to not end up there again or tips n stuff since it seems like it just gets more of a headache to make stuff

And adding neatness makes it slower

Thought it helps with headache

[dense violet]

you get faster at it as you learn 🙂

[unique pewter]

Please be an alt recipe for screws mr hard drive

Pls speed I need this

[dense violet]

they exist sure. You can also get recipes that don't use screws

[unique pewter]

I meant for making screws in general

I want that one recipe that just uses plates or whatever it was

[dense violet]

those also exist - but mostly screws is about learning ot make smaller sections of production

[feral jay]

Not to poopoo you, but if "headache to make stuff" is a problem, this isn't the game for you. THere are lots of headaches.

[unique pewter]

First factory game to do it, prob cause it is 3d or sum idk

[coral marsh]

You guys think itd be a fun addition if we could turn HOR back into Crude Oil using the converter and Reanimated SAM?

[unique pewter]

And open world

[feral jay]

The 3D part is an adjustment, for fans of factory games

[unique pewter]

I like the game, I just feel I am doing sum wrong

[jagged nymph]

how msny hours

[feral jay]

You're doing everything wrong. You're not playing the game MY way.

[unique pewter]

30 😢

[feral jay]

3,200

[jagged nymph]

then thats to be expected. it takes a while to master this game

[jagged nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dcs-who-asked-f-15-f15-radar-gif-8523366126248574887

damnit no embeds

[soft marsh]

Trying to decide if I want all the logistics above ground or if I want a logistics floor - for this particular factory 🤔

[feral jay]

🤣

I'm bookmarking that one

[winter drift]

Above

[soft marsh]

Thats kinda where I'm leaning. I did half of it below and it just looks kinda clinical

Its very clean and neat but there's nothing moving to look at

[feral jay]

I don't do logistics floors. I find it's much easier to troubleshoot problems when it's all out in the open.

[jagged nymph]

put it on the outside of the factory. like on the walls n shit, like bacon wrapped asparagus

[soft marsh]

lol I do open-air layouts

I rarely box anything up

if I do add walls its usually to hide really bad clipping on my super compact builds

[feral jay]

Damn dude, that was a good burn. Kudos to you.

[hasty stump]

a fellow worrier about carbon monoxide poisoning i see

[unique pewter]

I thought someone told me 3 water pumps is enough for 8 coal gens

[winter drift]

Im at a stand still at phase 3 I wanna continue but it gets lonely

[soft marsh]

I just dont like staring at a bunch of boxes lol

[jagged nymph]

it is

3 perfectly feeds 8

you may neeed to turn off the coal gens and wait for water to fill them first though

[hasty stump]

with the caveat that a mk1 pipe can't carry all the water that 3 water extractors produce, so you have to feed carefully

[feral jay]

I hereby award you two hundred Internet Points.

[unique pewter]

So there are three down the line (same level as the pump) that don’t get fed properly though the first five are perfectly fine and completely full

[hybrid nymph]

The mk1 pipeline has a max transfer rate of 300m ^3

[jagged nymph]

are you using a single mk1 pipe to feed them all?

if so that wont work

[unique pewter]

Do I need to split them into two seperate?

[jagged nymph]

3 pumps x 120 water/m = 360, mk1 pipe is 300/m

[feral jay]

BTW @jagged nymph -what does [ping on reply] mean?

[coral marsh]

Means when you reply to them, the ping is active

[coral marsh]

This

[jagged nymph]

the button you can press when replying that chooses if the reply sends them a notification or not, i want you to leave it on so i see the reply

[coral marsh]

Vs this

See the orange on the reply to you? That's the ping

[feral jay]

No, don't see it

[brazen coral]

Got to automating the artificial power shards now 😄

[jagged nymph]

like how his first reply was orange/yellow, the second one wasnt.

[coral marsh]

You should see orange on the reply cause I have my ping button on

[brazen coral]

Dark matter is such a funny thing

[coral marsh]

Is aye, its actually expensive to make as well for such little reward

[brazen coral]

I mean yeah it's a complex process to actually get that far but at that point I got everything else up to automation and that's going to help with the power supply

Or at least overclocking the power supply I need

[feral jay]

Nope this is what I see #off-topic-media message

[jagged nymph]

theres fucking dark matter now??

[coral marsh]

I reckon we should have a recipe in base game no mods that let's you craft "raw dark matter" straight from SAM

[jagged nymph]

i havnt seen anything about what was added in 1.0 lol i just started playing

the first time i played 1.0 was a few months ago, i took a break for a while

[feral jay]

And Alien Power Matrices

[brazen coral]

I mean technically there is. It's a basic recipe in the converter

Or at least residual dark matter

[coral marsh]

Thats not a ping, thats tagging another channel in the same server, when someone pings you its either @feral jay or with the orange around the comment the person is replying to you with.

[feral jay]

Yeah but there's no orange, that's the confusing part

[oak nymph]

Hi

[coral marsh]

Well there should be bro, I have my reply ping on

At this point its an issue with your discord not you

[jagged nymph]

there is, the entire message is highlighted yellow/orange

[feral jay]

Clearly I need to read up on Discord etiquette

[jagged nymph]

and in his second message where he said "vs this" it was not highlighted

[feral jay]

Hi, welcome to Costco, we love you

[coral marsh]

Not etiquette, but recognizing a highlighted message vs one that isnt

[feral jay]

OH no, I get what a highlight is, I just don't see any orange

[coral marsh]

The words themselves will not be orange but the entire message that person is replying to will be highlighted orange/yellow

[jagged nymph]

its more of a yellow color

[feral jay]

Or wait is it just my eyes and I'm seeing brown

[coral marsh]

Its supposed to be a sort of yellow/orange

Not brown

[feral jay]

Darker

[coral marsh]

I hate this stupid 3s cool down thing

[sudden flint]

"how to play this game instead of watching videos about it and fantasizing" press send

[unique pewter]

[feral jay]

Sure you do, but regulations are written in blood

We've been seriously trolled here

[coral marsh]

I know why its there it just annoys me

[sudden flint]

why?

[feral jay]

yeah fair enough

[sudden flint]

what was written in blood?

[jagged nymph]

check #off-topic-media

[coral marsh]

I have to explain this? It should be extremely obvious to anyone

[sudden flint]

WHY????

[feral jay]

Yeah that's the same I see, that's just not "orange" to me

I get it now

[coral marsh]

The issue was color? Bruh,

[sudden flint]

what did it do???

why is it in blood????

[feral jay]

Because trolls

[jagged nymph]

if theres no slowmode people would spam and the chat would go crazy. ive seen it happen

[coral marsh]

Im a quick typer and can be a fast talker, I often fall short though in conversations because my messages have often been drowned out by others when there's a cool down and I dont particularly often type out long messages unless im pissed off (im not this time im just explaining).

[jagged nymph]

you can wait 3 seconds brotein powder

[coral marsh]

So have I so I dont often voice a concern against it

[oak nymph]

I bought the game and all my things seems inefficient and not organized and I don't understand the math
Can you tell me if my math is correct
For example: making iron plate I used one miner mk1 on normal node 2 smelter 2 constructor or whatever they are called in English
But this set up seem really slow and clogged up

[coral marsh]

Go to #math-and-meta

[feral jay]

Let me introduce you to an IRC message flood @sudden flint

That was red alert shit if you ever opered a channel

[soft marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[jagged nymph]

your setup is correct, stuff will be slow in the early game

[feral jay]

Fuck you :p

[jagged nymph]

that aint very nice man

[soft marsh]

lmao making me feel old too. Used to be in a few of those many a year ago

[coral marsh]

Aaaaanywaaaay, I actually did have a conversation starter here about 10 minutes ago, what if we could make dark matter residue straight from SAM but with water or Heavy Oil Residue in the converter. Call it raw dark matter

[sudden flint]

oh. I thought we were talking about the MAM in game

XD

[sullen gull]

Ahhh, good ol' IRC...

[jagged nymph]

w-what does that have to with anyhting?? what did you think we meant?????

[oak nymph]

I build the space elevetor and automate the thing for phase one but it's messy the power pole and biomass generator everywhere

[sudden flint]

that the little cooldown between researches was annoying

[coral marsh]

If youve just gotten the game dont worry about organization in the first 100 hours man, not everyone does and thats okay.

[jagged nymph]

yeah, that will happen in early game. after completing space elevator phase 1 you will unlock coal power which is fully automatable, no need to refuel biomass.

[feral jay]

So build something new, there's no reason to tear anything down

[cunning glade]

The 3 seconds?

[jagged nymph]

when you first start the game it will be messy and unorganized

[feral jay]

I like the 3 second rule here

[coral marsh]

THIS

[cunning glade]

I think it's fine

[sudden flint]

yea

[cunning glade]

Even that 10 min on drives is fine being a mam with u research well exploring

[sudden flint]

I understand slowmode

[jagged nymph]

my personal reccomendation is 1. get coal power as soon as possible, 2 build stuff on foundations not on the dirt

[cunning glade]

It's 3 seconds what?

[soft marsh]

just had the absolute shit scared out of me in the game. Was building and suddenly hear the mercer sphere voice all creepy like in the middle of the darkness

turns out I was near a sphere and didnt even notice

[feral jay]

3: realize that foundations are cheating, and start to build on the ground again

[cunning glade]

I'm almost done with my 50 hmf a min

Really wasn't that bad tbh hmf pretty easy

[soft marsh]

le gasp! heretic!

[cunning glade]

Worst take ever?

[jagged nymph]

should i automate 5000 smart plates per minute chat?

[cloud peak]

yes

[jagged nymph]

before coal power

[unique pewter]

I found a pretty red forest

[cloud peak]

is that even possible

[feral jay]

Automate all the things.

[coral marsh]

Oh yea I forgot you where doing that. Having fun?

[jagged nymph]

i mean its probably possible, doesnt mean its feasable

[rustic hare]

it's also very safe with cute creatures! great place for bauxite too

[sudden flint]

won't be pretty to you for long

[feral jay]

kill the cute creatures

[coral marsh]

I wanna try automate 20 ballistic warp drives per minute just to have it all be sunk for ticket points

[unique pewter]

There is like red bamboo n stuff

[unique pewter]

Oh that sounds very nice

[jagged nymph]

only 20? do 200

[cunning glade]

Yes it really isn't too bad

[jagged nymph]

or perhaps 2000

[cunning glade]

Eating then I get too hop back on and finish it

[coral marsh]

I already have 3 major projects I dont need or want a 4th

[cunning glade]

What are they

[feral jay]

Well that's your first mistake. Do one at a time.

[rustic hare]

I mean.. radiative hogs and poisonous spiders are cute, right 😂

[sudden flint]

are you, by chance, arachnaphobic?

[jagged nymph]

then do -1/m so it actually does ~2.147 billion

[coral marsh]

250 nuclear power plants, 600 fuel gens on ionized fuel and a 20Twh power storage array

[feral jay]

They are cute when they are dead.

[sudden flint]

grind 'em up

make em into little canisters

[cunning glade]

Oc or normal fuel gens

[jagged nymph]

how... how many batteries is that

[coral marsh]

All OC

[sudden flint]

GIVE US THE CASH MONEY

[cunning glade]

Good

[coral marsh]

200 thousand

[jagged nymph]

what the actual fuck

[jagged nymph]

whats oc

[unique pewter]

Tf these giant spiders

[sullen gull]

Just take a look under the hazardous personal container... That's the best look for a stinger 😛

[feral jay]

I am pioneer, here to exploit massage a2b-1b or whatever. The planet exists for me to exploit it.

[coral marsh]

If i do the blueprint right ill need to place down 3,125 total blueprints

[coral marsh]

OverClock, raise the machines clock speed

[rustic hare]

@sudden flint it has started

[jagged nymph]

oohh

[unique pewter]

Ooo stinger

[sudden flint]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA

[sudden flint]

lowkey cute pfp btw

[feral jay]

Arachnaphobia mode exists for a reason. Just sayin'

[cunning glade]

That mode is worse

[oak nymph]

Thanks

[rustic hare]

I agree 😂

[cunning glade]

U hear never ending meows

[hasty stump]

the big ones also blow poison gas at you

[jagged nymph]

when you get coal power set up it will be life changing

[cunning glade]

Don't spoil thoose

[rustic hare]

gives you felinephobia

[sullen gull]

Idk, those cat gifs make me feel like i'm having a bad trip 🤣

[feral jay]

I have cats. Meows are cool.

[unique pewter]

Oh that’s nice

[unique pewter]

Ty :D

[coral marsh]

But yea my final project for satisfactory will be a 4 or 5 location power storage array each consisting of 50 thousand or 40 thousand pwer storage units totalling 200 thousand and storing a gargantuan 20Twh of power

[cunning glade]

As do I they aren't the good kind tho they're just annoying

[jagged nymph]

what are yalls favorite spawn location

[feral jay]

Oh my sweet summer child...

[cunning glade]

The in game meows not my cats I should clarify

[sullen gull]

Rocky Desert

[oak nymph]

Should I run power cable across my area like one giant power network

[rustic hare]

then you can sit back, wait for it to charge, then shut down your power gens 😂

[coral marsh]

I could yea

[jagged nymph]

just run power lines howeveer you think looks best, doesnt matter a whole lot.

[rustic hare]

rocky desert, go north west

[feral jay]

I have blueprined power poles instead, and I run mapwide power grids on them

[unique pewter]

I lived

[feral jay]

I spend a lot of time stinging power lines

[coral marsh]

I have the mod that increases the power output of nuclear reactors 10 fold so instead of each one producing 2.5Gw they now produce 25Gw each, I did the math, ill have 6.25Tw total from just the 250 reactors

[jagged nymph]

thats cheating brochacho

[coral marsh]

Not as far as I see it

[feral jay]

Awful mod. If you load the game without it, the save breaks.

[dense violet]

just use a mod that gives you a solar panel that outputs 400000 TW and be done with it

[coral marsh]

You think id remove it? 🤣🤣

[jagged nymph]

im kinda kidding, play the game however you like to lol its a singleplayer non competitive game

[cunning glade]

Tbh nuclear seems very weak so makes sense

[feral jay]

You will be forced to if the mod is no longer developed, or if the game is updated and it takes a few weeks for the mod to catch up

[dense violet]

it makes an ass ton of power out of a material you can't do anything else with, with very few generators, and that's weak?

[jagged nymph]

theres something eelse you can do with it

[cunning glade]

Compared too rocket fuel yes

[coral marsh]

Then ill delete the world remove the mod and start all over again, I really do not care bro. This is what ive chosen to do and I must accept any and/or all consequences that happen

[cunning glade]

I just think it should be a bit better doesn't really make that much power

[rustic hare]

@jagged nymph you hate python the programming/scripting language or just snakes in general?

[jagged nymph]

language

[feral jay]

Aight, fair enough

[dense violet]

what a hot take

yes lets have 1000 generators with bland building instead of like 100 generators with a production line that just has more but smaller steps.

honestly RF is for when you want to be bland and boring.

[cunning glade]

Well I'm gonna need both

I agree but nuclear just doesn't make that much on its own

[jagged nymph]

i use geyser power for my main power bro get on my level

[coral marsh]

1 irl nuclear reactor will produce around 1Gw average, 1 base nuclear reactor in satisfactory will produce a minimum (at 100% clock speed) of 2.5Gw, and you think thats weak? I only got the power increase mod because of my power storage plans

[placid stirrup]

It's good to experience the nuclear rat's nest at least once

[rustic hare]

rf is just fields of gens
with the rocket fuel alt it's just refineries -> mixer -> mixer, 3 step, boring af

[feral jay]

Yanno what this game needs? Golf.

[jagged nymph]

reall

[cunning glade]

Yes I do

[jagged nymph]

@devs golf dlc when??

[coral marsh]

The just do what I did, get the mod that increases the power output of them 10 fold from 2.5Gw to 25Gw

[placid stirrup]

Had a dyslexic moment and thought that said disc golf

[cunning glade]

That's 10 nuclear gens a particle accelerator potentially if I remember right

[feral jay]

Disc golf even better

[cunning glade]

It's tempting we will see

[coral marsh]

The devs said they'll never add it and I have to honestly agree, golf is quite literally thee single most boring sport ever invented

[jagged nymph]

they said theyd never add pipes aswell. your point?

[cunning glade]

We need a dlc

Like elden ring got

[rustic hare]

you are just poor /s

[feral jay]

The developers are always wrong.

[coral marsh]

Be glad you meant sarcasm

[placid stirrup]

There's a 0% chance there's not already a mod out there

[jagged nymph]

i agree

[feral jay]

Fuck Coffee Stain, they made a horrible game that I somehow put 3k hours into

I just want better train logic

[coral marsh]

Thats just like the ARK survival evolved players saying the game sucks after putting 10 thousand hours into.

[rustic hare]

I like this logistics building game as much as the fuck corpos game

[cunning glade]

Like factorio u go too space we should get the same type of dlc we launch off too another planet different goal idk

[feral jay]

Yes, it is

[jagged nymph]

no way i just heard gaming with doc say smart splitters are cheating

[coral marsh]

I want gravity in the game, proper so everything above ground has to be built on support frames/foundations

[cunning glade]

Smart spillters are the best

[feral jay]

Nah, not smart splitters. But foundations are cheating.

[jagged nymph]

belts are cheating

[feral jay]

Walls too

Enclose nothing

[coral marsh]

L take and thats coming from me. I have thee most ass takes because I dont care about the strategic play of a game much

[coral marsh]

transport everything by hand

[soft marsh]

3k? Just getting started, huh?

[coral marsh]

You got 3k and im over here with 270🤣

[placid stirrup]

I'm at 1.6k, just made my first biomass burner!

[coral marsh]

🤣🤣

[coral marsh]

Dude dont get too carried away now

[placid stirrup]

I recreated a scale replica of the Taj Mahal for it, that's why it took so long

[coral marsh]

Epic

[midnight dagger]

use tractors to send 1 stack at a time

[coral marsh]

🤣

[feral jay]

So I had this fun conversation with my 10yo nephew, I bought him Satisfactory for xmas. "Brah, I've got 3000 hours in this game, I can teach you"

[coral marsh]

Like a proper farmer

[gloomy tusk]

striek do you know if i unistall satisfactory will it keep my saves

[coral marsh]

I got my Bf doom the dark ages for christmas

[feral jay]

I have no idea. I back up my saved games as a matter of course. Find them in your filesystem.

[jagged nymph]

when i first got the game it was because i was looking through my friends library to see if any games looked good i could get, saw satisfactory, asked if it was any good, he said yeah. i see the trailers and think it looks sick, we start playing. were mining and hand crafting some stuff and i ask when we start making factories. he says something like "oh we wont build factories for a while theyre super late game" anyway eventually he places a miner on an impure copper node and a belt coming out of it that leads to nothing. when we need materials we went to the start of the belt and spammed e until we had enough. We wanted to place the space elevator, he made us HAND MINE 4500 LIMESTONE FROM AN IMPURE NODE. i thought this was the corret way to play the game and apparently he did too. i thought the game sucked. i watched some videos on it and realized my friend is a dumbass.

[sullen gull]

Back them up from %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Save\Savegames\

[placid stirrup]

Your BF single/looking for a player 2?

[coral marsh]

Think your funny dont you

[gloomy tusk]

so it doesn't save?

[hasty stump]

"factories are super late game"

[feral jay]

THere is a "cloud only" option or something like that in the game settings

[coral marsh]

We've been together for a year in feb next year. I love him with all my heart and wouldnt trade him for any anime woman or man

[hasty stump]

i mean it's right there in the name, satisfactory

[sullen gull]

Chances are, when a game is uninstalled, it most likely will remove all local files afaik

[cunning glade]

I think he's funny

[feral jay]

But just find where your saved games are, and copy them elsewhere

@midnight dagger love the username

[placid stirrup]

Thanks buddy

[midnight dagger]

Although it is the second half of the title, therefore factories are meant for later

[cunning glade]

You're welcome

[hasty stump]

good point

[placid stirrup]

Satis in the first half

[coral marsh]

If i was younger I straight up would've told you to go fuck yourself with an acid dipped cactus for asking such a thing. Lucky I developed a sense of humor in the last 8 years

[placid stirrup]

Growth is always good

[feral jay]

Half? Oh my sweet summer child...

[soft marsh]

Wow, better slow down there - that's advanced game stuff

[sullen gull]

Luckily

[coral marsh]

Very

[placid stirrup]

What do you think I'm saying here?

[coral marsh]

I ended up not liking who I was so I decided to change for the better. I still got a lot of work to do, but im at a point where I have a partner and we love each other so ive done something right

[placid comet]

Interesting. I noticed water is a biproduct of aluminum scraps. To sink it, you could have it loop back to the initial process

[feral jay]

I have no idea, I'm just talking shit

[jagged nymph]

yeah

[placid stirrup]

Ok I'll comb through the wiki and SCIM another 3 times before proceeding

[coral marsh]

Yea you can with a valve on the pipe

[placid stirrup]

An honest man. I like the cut of your jib

[coral marsh]

Probably do it en mass so you can underclock the water extractor

[soft marsh]

That's like...my primary hobby these days

[placid stirrup]

There are diagrams of the ideal recycling methods for alu. They're in this discord with an easy search (valves are not the ideal solution)

[soft marsh]

Better make it 4 times, just to be safe.

[placid stirrup]

TRUE

[feral jay]

Yes, this is basically a skill check, you need to figure out the waste product for aluminium

There's a reason I'm not building out this aluminium factory at 12:30 after a few glasses of wine lol

[placid comet]

Oh that was clear very quickly. Conveniently silica is a biproduct for alumina that is needed in making ingots too. Everything can be recycled

[feral jay]

it's all very carefully calculated

[placid stirrup]

Can I share my Aluminum Inn with you?

[placid comet]

I won't say no

[placid stirrup]

#streams-and-videos message

[midnight dagger]

Idk, alcohol tends to inspire very creative solutions. Could be a learning experience

[jagged nymph]

modular factories or megafactories

[feral jay]

marijuana inspires creative solutions in me, but this is a SFW server

[coral marsh]

The only issue i see with alumina scrap is it has such a massive output, 350 or so alumina scrap per minute is a shit ton at base clock so building it en mass to feed back the water bi product enough to make a difference leaves you needing so many foundries and coal

[feral jay]

Takes the right day, too

[coral marsh]

Would be awesome if the max at base clock was 100 a minute instead of 350

[feral jay]

100 or 350 what, exactly? Per minute? Per tick?

[jagged nymph]

are there any recipe loops that turn 1 of something into itself (like 1 copper ingot to 1 copper ingot for example) where you could use somersloops to turn 1 of something into 2 of itself and make infinite

[coral marsh]

100 alumina scrap per minute instead of 350 per minute.

[coral marsh]

Refineries make so much per minute and I do feel as though its too high

[feral jay]

No, the greeat example for that is that packagers can't use sloops, for that exact reason

[jagged nymph]

i see

[hasty stump]

trying to choose a few of my hard drive recipes, should i go stitched iron plate or encased industrial pipe? both seem good

[coral marsh]

Encased industrial pipes

[feral jay]

Stiched plate

[jagged nymph]

plate

[feral jay]

Ooh an argument

[coral marsh]

Stitched iron plate is decent but the encased industrial beams/pipes is a great recipe

[midnight dagger]

Encased pipes are on the same level as cast screws imo, even moreso if you have iron pipes

[feral jay]

Stitched plates eliminate screws, and screws are evil

[coral marsh]

Big bonus with stitched iron plates is zero screws to deal with

[midnight dagger]

True

[feral jay]

Screw screws

[coral marsh]

If you want to make a lot of heavy modular frames, go for the encased industrial beams recipe as you can always supply 2 assemblers to make enough modular frames

[soft marsh]

Damn, looks like I need to make a bit of a bigger plastic factory and some more packagers for my aluminum factory to work

[placid comet]

I don't have the patience for something of this scale LMAO

[soft marsh]

Might actually have to do some maths 😭

[marble flame]

is this game just "finishing" your factory, feeling satisfied for about 10 seconds, then realizing its not properly optimized

[midnight dagger]

Yes

[placid stirrup]

It only took 4 months wdym

[soft marsh]

Sounds about right. I think I've restarted my factory about 30 times, and I'm only at Phase 4

[placid stirrup]

Gets better around the 3rd playthrough

[hasty stump]

yea i'm getting ready to build HMFs next actually, and i do have iron pipes already

so it's very tempting to get the encased pipes

[marble flame]

im only phase one, tier 2 and it feels like that

[midnight dagger]

And then building random stuff in a completely different corner of the map while you recover from the trauma of how inefficient your current factory is

[coral marsh]

Nice, it'll help a bit just remember, if you wanna mass produce them, double down on how many assemblers you plant to have or triple down so you can make a steady supply of modular frames, my wnd advice is to place them out of phase so you get a steady stream of them on the output

[feral jay]

I've found it helpful to designh factories like that for the neext level belt I can get

[marble flame]

im just worried im wasting my time trying to optimize things this early, I only just built my space elevator like 10 minutes ago

[feral jay]

THe game doews not punish mistakes, just build new stuff

[soft marsh]

I refuse to start completely over. I’d rather tear down, sink everything and rebuild

[hasty stump]

the map is so huge, you can completely abandon your starting base if you like, and build a bigger better one elsewhere, can even do this several times if you want

[midnight dagger]

Whenever in doubt make more spaghetti

[south canyon]

Why does mousing over different video settings cause hard drive seeking

[hasty stump]

yea who the hell wants to go back to gathering grass and twigs

[soft marsh]

I don’t think I’d start optimizing or being really particular until you unlock fuel generators. That’s about when I’d start trying to be thematic and picky.

[feral jay]

That's what SHE said!

[coral marsh]

BTW, there's a really good spot to craft diamonds into time crystals over in the dune desert, you just need 2 particle accelerators, 2 converters a mk3 miner on a pure node at 250% clock speed and a good enough storage and boom thats half your Mk6 belt production done, the other half is easy as shite too, 1 miner at mk2 or mk3 on any node, 1 converter, 4 smelters for iron, caretium or aluminium (i refuse to use the American spelling), and 2 dimensional depots and thats Mk6 belt production automated

[south canyon]

you can’t automate buildings

[coral marsh]

Yes you can

[south canyon]

How

[coral marsh]

I really shouldn't have to explain this shit

This is extremely obvious and falls into common sense

[feral jay]

You are becoming insulting.

[south canyon]

I don’t see how you can automate buildings without mods or bots

[coral marsh]

Everyone always sees it that way. Im used to it

[soft marsh]

Buildings can’t be automated but they can be blueprinted and stamped out as needed

[feral jay]

Just tone it down a bit

[midnight dagger]

In the sense of the word, the buildings are already automated once you select a recipe and connect the inputs/outputs

[gloomy tusk]

Guys

i figured it out

[feral jay]

Or Gals

[gloomy tusk]

satisfactory does save through the steam cloud there is no need to save it

like in game save it but if you uninstall it it will still save your save files

[soft marsh]

Fortunately yes. When I reinstalled windows the cloud save came in clutch

[gloomy tusk]

or canadians

[feral jay]

Yes, just back them up

[marble flame]

i keep running out of damn concrete

[feral jay]

Well true, we're better than you Austrailians

[hasty stump]

build more

[midnight dagger]

Well make more

[gloomy tusk]

canadians are nicer then americans

in my experience

[feral jay]

Of that, there is no doubt

[gloomy tusk]

is it true you release all your anger during hockey season

[soft marsh]

As an American I can confirm.

[lapis shadow]

So long as something is able to be placed then can I assume it has full functionality? I get warnings all the time that clipping may occur when I'm building, yet it still allows me to place it, seemingly without issue. So do I only worry about clipping for asthetics or does clipping actually effect my equipment?

[gloomy tusk]

clipping does not matter at all

[soft marsh]

Clipping won’t affect anything but visuals

I clip most of my blueprints

[gloomy tusk]

only aesthetic it will only have a problem if it enroaches another objects apperance

[feral jay]

ehhh,, we have two modes of thinking — either "I'm sorry", or "You'll be sorry"

[midnight dagger]

So long as it's blue or yellow it'll work

[primal obsidian]

no because ive never watched hockey in my life youll have to ask a more steortypical canadian

[gloomy tusk]

we australians have two modes of thinking lets go for a surf or lets interact with our pet snakes and spiders

[feral jay]

Storm troopers were a Canadian idea. Just sayin'

[gloomy tusk]

anyone play vr here

[feral jay]

Sorry, I've just been so.. Canadian lately

[gloomy tusk]

ive just been too australian lately as well

[feral jay]

As a Canadian, I get it

Opposite sides of the world and all, but I get it

[gloomy tusk]

i live near a beach so imma go for a swim right now

goodbye

[feral jay]

Fuck you it's winter here and there's a storm blowing right now

[primal obsidian]

mhmmm

[gloomy tusk]

imagine

[primal obsidian]

i agree its like 1 AM why are we awake now anyway

[feral jay]

Roads are closed everywhere

[gloomy tusk]

you people have the worst sleep times i have ever seen

[primal obsidian]

i almost slipped getting out of my car

like an hour ago

[feral jay]

I am Canadian, that happens every day to me.

Well at least in winter

[gloomy tusk]

do you slip on maple syrup

[primal obsidian]

exactly

[feral jay]

That's a funny story - but yes, I have

[gloomy tusk]

💀

[feral jay]

It's why we tried to make maple taffy once, and failed, and bever tried it again

[primal obsidian]

i am also canadian and i have better footing then you

[gloomy tusk]

wait im confused

[primal obsidian]

nah jk its way too slippery

[feral jay]

I will take you on a wet ice rink any day

[gloomy tusk]

in satisfactory is there multiple maps or are they all the same map just with different spawning points

[primal obsidian]

same map

[feral jay]

THere is only one map

It is a spectacularly beautiful handcrafted map

[gloomy tusk]

ok

and how do i travel fast around the map

im thinking of building hypertubes

but i need to make a quick steel factory for that

[feral jay]

There is no "fast travel" but you unlock and then build faster transportation networks

[gloomy tusk]

are hypertubes decently fast

i don't need something fast i just need it to get me there and get me back

[dense violet]

depends, more sections speed you up, you lose speed going up, gain going down

[gloomy tusk]

precisely accurate

[feral jay]

They're a good medium level build, yes

[gloomy tusk]

ok i will use them

do they need power

[dense violet]

the entrances do

[feral jay]

Yes, 10MW per entrance

[gloomy tusk]

my grid capacity is only 300mw

[dense violet]

find a lake with 3-4 coal nodes - burn it all for power

[gloomy tusk]

im at the big circular lake currently

2 coal nodes

in the grassy place

[dense violet]

every zone has a spot nearby with 3-4 coal nodes next to water 🙂 go find it

[hasty stump]

make bigger grid, then build hypertube cannons at every factory

walking is for suckers

[gloomy tusk]

i drive my truck

but its too slow

[feral jay]

"big circular lake" describes a lot of places in this game

[gloomy tusk]

in the grassy place surronded by cliffs

[feral jay]

In which case I think "big" is subjective

[runic path]

just got this game how confused will i be in the next 1-3 hours

[hasty stump]

the place to the north of where you spawn, where there are coal nodes?

[gloomy tusk]

this place

[rustic hare]

8/10, you'll be confused while enjoying ADA

[runic path]

perfect

[hasty stump]

how inappropriate, tell me more

[dense violet]

treat the milestones like a tutorial - you'll be alright 🙂

[gloomy tusk]

make sure you do the onboarding process

its good

[feral jay]

Yes, talk to us when you reach teir 9, everything else is a tutorial, and until then, youi're a n00b

[rustic hare]

don't question ADA

[south canyon]

Where do doggos get their items

[gloomy tusk]

im a noob then

[feral jay]

And there's nothing wrong with that

[gloomy tusk]

also why does nobody play satisfactory

[hasty stump]

i learned surprisingly recently that ADA's voice is just text to speech, not a voice actor

[rustic hare]

the way the game injects tutorials into your subconcious is genius actually, you wouldn't even know

[gloomy tusk]

how is it only 50% for the easiest achievement

do people just not play it after they buy it?

[feral jay]

Hey! I play Satisfactory! I'm somebody!

[jagged nymph]

well yeah it doesnt even sound remotely like a voice actor

[gloomy tusk]

like as in they buy it and just don't play it

[hasty stump]

well maybe a heavily processed voice actor

[south canyon]

It does

[feral jay]

ohhh are you looking at the Steam achievements?

[gloomy tusk]

yes sir

[feral jay]

A lot of people still play saves they have from like 2018, before achivements were a thing, so they never got them

[gloomy tusk]

oh

[hasty stump]

i still have 7 achievements to go, but i was ripped off somehow, i know i achieved the "reach max world height" and it triggered an achievement at the time, but steam doesn't show that i have it

[gloomy tusk]

i gtg now bye bye

[ocean frost]

Many people don't finish the game

It's not a gameplay loop that you play till completion, I would say most of the fun is the early to mid game.

[zinc raptor]

anyone wanna play with me, im fairly new to this game and have not played in a while...

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[rustic hare]

what timezone you in? also #1201555265942724758

[zinc raptor]

PST. and sorry im new to dis sever

[rustic hare]

our timezones are pretty far, I think you can find some teammates in the channel above though

[zinc raptor]

im up almost 24/7

[rustic hare]

I can play from 6 to 8 AM your time

[south canyon]

What’s your Timezone in UTC offset

[rustic hare]

+7

[topaz dawn]

I want to get mk3 miners and its.... the game has finally reached the point its overwhelming to me

[dense violet]

first step - make a a bauxite factory to make ingots 🙂

[south canyon]

Might be able to play together in that case

[rustic hare]

chop big goals into smaller ones, enjoy

[zealous urchin]

🫸

[topaz dawn]

Yeah I'm going to have to make a bauxite place and tear it down later. oh well

[jagged nymph]

am i the only one that pronounces bauxite like "bozz-ite"

[dense violet]

why tear it down?

[rustic hare]

if you are interested, DM me, I'm looking for a world to play in (your world)

[zealous urchin]

🔥🔥🔥

[rustic hare]

but just passively looking

[feral jay]

I am the bestest Satisfactory player. All other player play the game wrong. Discuss.

[zealous urchin]

absolutely right nothing to discuss

(delulu detected)

[topaz dawn]

so it can be taken by train to a future smelting faciility

[feral jay]

Oh shit, you get it. I award you one hundred Internet Points.

[dense violet]

why not just train it now?

or just make a factory and let it do it's thing for aaaages. Can always make another

[topaz dawn]

because no mk3 miners, mk5 belts

[zealous urchin]

💸 😎

[topaz dawn]

my computer isnt the best. the fewer nodes being used the better

[dense violet]

and? you could

1. build it and clock it to use mk5 belt's worth of product that will work when you upgrade belts and miners
2. or use coupons to unlock the milestones to build mk5 belts and mk3 miners

[hasty stump]

you owe it to ficsit to get a better computer

[zealous urchin]

train this and that, but have u ever trained

[topaz dawn]

coupons can unlock milestones? you need the recipes unlocked to buy the items correct

[feral jay]

That's gonna be line to my nephews soon, I got them the game, but their computers are underpowered, and I know they'll be asking for beter ones soon.