satisfactory

[reef basin]

well the complexity will grow with time obviously, but you still can automate just a small amount and do something else while it builds up

[clear mesa]

The beauty is taking it all at your own pace

Once you get past biomass at least..

And don't need to go running for trees

[feral jay]

Wait what? I can play this game at my own pace?

[clear mesa]

No not you, you have a deadline

[lapis shadow]

Is it not possible to fit a conveyor in here? When I try to build it looks like it will put the blueprint preview right where I'm looking but it won't actually place#screenshots message

[shrewd hatch]

buddy what are you trying to show us in screenshots

[reef basin]

don't use screenshots to ask questions, it's for showing off your builds

use #1038092680493801533

[shrewd hatch]

wdym is it not possible to fit a conveyor

ohh that

[feral jay]

Yeah but that deadline was set by Mrs. Caterina Parks, and she inexplicably disappeared, so now what?

[shrewd hatch]

cycle through build modes on the conveyor placement

[lapis shadow]

linked wrong picture

[shrewd hatch]

Cycle through build modes it might work

[clear mesa]

It honestly should work if you lined it up perfectly

[feral jay]

I once nuked the swamp from orbit, that was awesome

Or at least as high as the game would let me go, 2km or so

[lapis shadow]

Is that just an unspoken rule? I don't see that mentioned in the channel's pins or the channel description?

[wicked nacelle]

You’re absolutely fine using screenshots to ask questions

Greenie has all these made up rules about how other people must act.

[clear mesa]

Idk but either way you ask a lot of questions that can be answered through playing just a bit longer before asking a question here

[nocturne cairn]

It's just much easier to share screenshots and talk about issues in a channel that allows both talking and sharing screenshots, and even easier in a separate thread in the forum channel

[feral jay]

Oh btw @reef basin thank you for your tool, and thank you for making it open source. I use it every time I play the game.

[wicked nacelle]

If it’s a long question that’s going to take a long time to answer then it’s better to take elsewhere but for quick questions it’s perfectly reasonable

[feral jay]

It's unspoken. General questions are fine in this channel, but anything complex should really be in #design-and-architecture , #math-and-meta , or #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

it's just a terrible channel for questions. People can't reply

[clear mesa]

Yeah but he's asking if a conveyor can fit in between two machines...all he needed was to know the r key exists 😭

[feral jay]

SOmetimes the best way is to post a question in one of those channels, and then point people to there, from here

[wicked nacelle]

Thats why you reply here

[spare cradle]

Bolted frames sounds good compared to the standard recipe. Way less cycle time.

... Or 6 slots.

[clear mesa]

Indeed....now get cast screws....

[spare cradle]

I did

[dense violet]

get all the hard drives and all the recipes then

[clear mesa]

Ooo then you're set

[thorn cave]

i just saw a big ahh manta ray fly overhead whlist i was exploring i swear im not tripping

[spare cradle]

:D

[dense violet]

steel screws is probably more useful for bolted plate

[wicked nacelle]

You should pet it

[feral jay]

I run a server for a family recipe website, it's not that ridiculously expensive if you're in the business

[thorn cave]

i think its gone now tho sadly

[spare cradle]

I got offered bolted plate, but took something useless

[feral jay]

Point being, it's a great tool

[wicked nacelle]

Not choosing any recipe is the most useful because it locks those two out from future drives

[dense violet]

more slots is useful

[wicked nacelle]

It will come back 🙂

[spare cradle]

I will have the research ones to get

[feral jay]

No, I just know how to run a website on the cheap

What I like about his tool is, he made it open source. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow, I would theoretically be able to republish his tool

I can't say the same for Calculator

haha I just talked with my father about Dutch public trasportation, comparing it to Canadian

Suffice it to say, his is superiour

They use a lot of bikes because it's a very flat country, but even otherwise, it's a great public trsport systen

But mind you, they don't use bikes in Saskatchewan, and that's a very flat part of Canada

In the east I assume, near the German border

Canada is just a great country overall, but as my username may suggest, I'm a bit biased

[spare cradle]

I think I am set for coal power, though it is quite far from my base
#screenshots message

[dense violet]

Canada has gone down the same road as the US. It's only good in comparison

but that's a really low bar

[spare cradle]

With sulfur within 500m

[dense violet]

sulfur isn't particularly useful for coal power

and far away power is great - save nearby nodes for factory items

[patent crane]

how much water and coal do i need for 8 coal generators?

since i got a 600 per mintue pure coal

[lapis shadow]

Will items flow through a conveyor no matter what so long as you were able to place them down? Like when you have questionable looking conveyors can you just assume they'll work since the game allowed you to place them down?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, items on a belt has no collision

just yolo

[dense violet]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[zealous urchin]

cursed technique: train collision 🚋 🔥 🚄

[gritty ridge]

im struggling to keep my factory organized should i make a centralized storage system if yes how?

[leaden turret]

however you want https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=warehouse AND architecture

[dense violet]

it's generally not useful no.

and part of keeping it organised is planning and making space

[leaden turret]

another part of keeping it organised is knowing where everything is.

one can have an utterly chaotic piece of spaghett and still know where everything is

[gritty ridge]

thats my issue right now i have chaotic spaghetti but i know where everything is located

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch Sign

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=Sign

[dense violet]

your first systems will be like that. Make sections and build in floors

[gritty ridge]

alright and i bring resources to the "mall" right

[dense violet]

I mean if you want, but again, not particularly useful and a lot of work

[leaden turret]

judicious use of signs: #screenshots message

[vague burrow]

Is anyone else having issues placing water extractors? It keeps saying it's not deep enough.

[dense violet]

you're either building in small ponds, or near the world border where water is fake

or possibly on top of blueprinted foundations

[vague burrow]

Blueprinted foundations cause issues?

[dense violet]

yes

build the water extractors first

[vague burrow]

Yep. That was it, lol.

[mortal ginkgo]

I think it is a bug that even my far away decoration BPs cause that issue. I think "Blueprint Square" is causing this.

basically dont have BPs around them

[haughty patio]

More than just mildly annoying #screenshots message

[dense violet]

get wrecked I guess

[zealous urchin]

it does happen and u need to hover mouse in different direction a bit

it should snap eventualy

[haughty patio]

One year old issue. This is how it snaps

[mortal ginkgo]

could it be because you are very close to shore? my Water Extractor entrances always snap to junctions

[haughty patio]

huh, I went a bit further away from the short and it worked

ok idk. how this works. It happened with the same distance from the shore

then I aligned it on the other side and then again on that side and it worked

[hot mango]

try restarting the game

[unborn vessel]

i want to play satisfactory on a pc. What would be a good starter pc that good run satisfactory. Ive been looking around i dont understand half the shit it says.

[hot mango]

you would need a gaming pc, so as fast, most ram, best graphics card... ect, you can afford is the way to go

[dense violet]

recent CPU, at least a 3070gtx if yo uwant it to look nice enough

[zealous urchin]

sati dsnt require that much tho

[dense violet]

min 16 gig ram, but 32 would be better

[hot mango]

i put a screenshot up of my pc specs

it runs this game fine

[zealous urchin]

its an overkill 3 times

[unborn vessel]

would these specs run the game well?

AMD Ryzen 5 7500F | 5.0GHz | 6 Cores | 12 Threads

GIGABYTE B650M GAMING WIFI Micro ATX

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 5060 WINDFORCE MAX OC - 8GB

16GB Team T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2x8GB)

1TB Kingston NV3 M.2 [R: 6000MB/s | W: 5000MB/s]

DeepCool AK400 ARGB Air Cooler - Black

GIGABYTE P650SS 650W 80+ Silver

im on like 15 different pc websites

idk whats good or bad

[haughty patio]

You're good

[hot mango]

i used to have a ryzen 5, which on some game started bottle necking

still ran this game fine for sure

[unborn vessel]

i would only play satisfavotry and rust ngl

[hot mango]

yes

[zealous urchin]

its such an overkill

but its ur money

[unborn vessel]

recommendations for specs?

[hot mango]

the spec would need to be above the minimum requirements for the game you want to play

and if you want to play a different game... so its best to get the best you can..

[zealous urchin]

true

[unborn vessel]

well mainly satisfactory less rust

[hot mango]

the specs you quoted will run this game fine

rust lol

[sterile blade]

BTW, #off-topic-tech is where the biggest tech nerds (usually) are gathered to conspire against Microsoft

[unborn vessel]

so ask them aswell?

[sterile blade]

If you'd like more or more in-depth opinions

[shy mulch]

A lot of people play this fine with far less power than that kit you described. Looks like a copy paste list though. You're best to learn to understand the purpose of each thing so you can make your own decisions what's needed

[silk rose]

yes if you are going 1080p

[sterile blade]

Too lazy to make more than one belt? ^^

[unborn vessel]

it was a copy and paste i know nothing aboutnpc

[sterile blade]

It's important to know about NPCs, else one will have a hard time finding quests

[silk rose]

yes their ai and path finding mechanics are important too

[silk rose]

rtx3060 setup from like 2020 would be fine for 1080p and half the price tho
if you want 2160p you need rtx5070 / rx9070

ofc talking about good settings and lumen, otherwise any gtx1050 bucket would do the job

[haughty patio]

#screenshots message How do you buffer fluid trains 🙃 My initial thought is doing this to ensure the train is drained as fast as possible

[silk rose]

make each pipe 400-500 instead of 600 and you will be fine

no way to make buffers like for conveyors yet

[haughty patio]

Currently I only need 300/min. More like asking for later

[unborn vessel]

would a Intel Core i5-10400F processor, AMD Radeon RX 550 4GB graphics card, Intel B360M motherboard, 16GB DDR4 RAM, a 500GB SATA SSD and a 550W Power Supply. Run satisfactory smoothly?

[silk rose]

gpu is too weak

[unborn vessel]

so better graphics card?

besides that good pc?

[lapis shadow]

How long does it take to mostly escape manual crafting? I just started and it's pretty intensive, of course the volume of my automated crafting will increase with time but so will my demand of crafting volume. Does it get better? 🥺

Guess it's basically just dependant on how much work you're willing to put into autocrafting assemblies

[silk rose]

yes basic pc, 500gb ssd may feel small tho

[haughty patio]

It pays off to automate even if it's something small, unefficient or messy. By the time you finish working on something else you'll have a big stash of resources ready to use

[vague burrow]

Where does rounding come into effect?

Will this just equal 72? 71.994240460763138948884089272858

[silk rose]

the games goal is to have all automated basically, you cant craft later game stuff

factory is like pyramid with hundreds of basic parts becoming 5-10 cool parts

by count i mean amount per minute, not individual parts

[silk rose]

even if its not you wont notice 0.001% efficiency drop unless its feedback loop setup where precentage will stack over time

[spark ruin]

yeah, tho above a 3060/6600 that CPU would start being the limiter in big builds

[unborn vessel]

fuck me

shits harder then building a house

[somber narwhal]

what do i do with the day 25 ficsmas reward

[unborn vessel]

i just want a pc man

[somber narwhal]

i cant put it into my inventory

[spark ruin]

tho for a GPU upgrade to that rig i'd recomend a 3060 12gb

[silk rose]

any used 3060 pc would be a best choice in my opinion

[spark ruin]

itd be a better choice than any 8gb card by far (including the 6600)

[silk rose]

including 5060💀

[unborn vessel]

where do i find a pc that could have all this

[silk rose]

on any used marked i guess i dont know your region markets

[unborn vessel]

whats that?

[vague burrow]

Basically, it's 300 rocket fuel divided by 4.167 per Fuel Generator. That's who I got the 71.9942...

[unborn vessel]

used marked

[soft marsh]

Precisely

[silk rose]

i dont know exact english phrase but its where people sell used stuff

second hand idk

[spark ruin]

~~Neural texture compression (NTC) will save us ~~

[silk rose]

i usually make all the gens with good numbers and last one with bad remainder

[silk rose]

100% ai generated slop frames

[vague burrow]

Yeah, that's what I normally do, but I'm just wondering if it's a rounding error and it's effectively 72 generators per 300 rocket fuel.

[silk rose]

make 2400 rocket fuel

[vague burrow]

Yeah, it's 72. When I drew it out to 4.166666666, it came out VERY close to 72 generators.

[vague burrow]

I'

I'm making 2700, lol.

[zealous urchin]

25/6 do with that whatu want

[mortal ginkgo]

big dog wants to go space with that much of rocket fuel

[zealous urchin]

wqssup... BIG DAWG

[mortal ginkgo]

HEY THERE BABA

[vague burrow]

But I break up so that 2 blenders to a specific group of generators. Putting them all on the same pipe system is a nightmare.

[mortal ginkgo]

am I reading this correct? Did someone say something bad about pipes? That 100% pure amazing system that works almost all the time?

Must be my weary eyes. Don't mind me.

[silk rose]

also you can package bad remainder

[silk rose]

almost

[vague burrow]

I wish the Fuel Generator just put out more electricity based on the fuel type. I gotta build 650 fuel generators for my power plant now.

[vague burrow]

Yeah, that's what I usually do, and then use it for Drone Fuel.

[zealous urchin]

tsall good in the hood BIG DAWG

pipes name should be untouched, clean and forever pure

[silk rose]

also they fixed pipes

with fluid trucks

[dense violet]

oh no, having to learn some basic pipe design... the horror

[zealous urchin]

belts i can be arrogant with
pipes force to think and according to scientists thinking is bad for your health

ficsit sponsored study btw legit 101

[silk rose]

belts should start dropping items when they are full

[sterile blade]

Sushi should be mandatory in Tier9

[zealous urchin]

1 belt per biome rule

[harsh kayak]

They updated the game again?

[haughty patio]

#screenshots message I wish there was an option to not have it auto connect if it doesn't match properly

[fiery pewter]

#screenshots message does everyone get a different poster?

[next galleon]

can anyone help me with my game crashing when I go near a spesific train station ?

[zealous urchin]

well there is

keep hitting "r"

[haughty patio]

no, I mean, I want auto connect, but not with a pipe that far off

[dense violet]

there is, hand connect it

[lapis shadow]

Do machines use the same amount of power whether or not they're actively executing their job? Like if a miner is powered, but sitting inactive in order to wait for a smelter to catch up with the ore flow, does it consume the same power?

[dense violet]

no, they go into standby and use 0.1mw

[shrewd hatch]

guys if I was gay, would it affect factory efficiency

[zealous urchin]

"Jarvis, how is the ragebait"

[scenic mirage]

is a 5 freight car train slower than a 4?

i needa transport 1200 sulfur/min but idk if i should add an extra freight car or just split the 1200 across the 4 i have alr, they arent close to full

[tough moth]

You can always add an extra locomotive if needed

[scenic mirage]

does it change the journey time? it makes the trains slower right

[fiery pewter]

Main rule of thumb is 1 locomotive=4 freight cars

For inclines and stuff

[marsh shard]

is there a way to tell how much will train be capable of transporting/min ?so for example if i have 600 coal/min on a freight station , can i tell if it is going to deliver taht amount/min without phisycally counting how much time it takes or something?or should i distribute the production in multiple freight car if i m not sure?

[scenic mirage]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Train_throughput

you can ask in #math-and-meta for more specific help as well

[reef basin]

It's way easier to ask in the same channel

[rugged shard]

Is a big pond/lake in blue Crater deep enough for water extractors for coal generators?

[marsh shard]

it depends how much coal you plan and if you re gonna overclock or not , aswell as if you plan to upgrade it in the future i think , but there is a lake on the south est side of the map which has 4 coal vein, i suggest you use taht to begin

the crater works aswell if it s the same i m thinking about you re going to use oil in that spot so I would personally save taht space

[rugged shard]

Where is that exactly? Can’t seem to find it

[marsh shard]

-794 1545

[rugged shard]

Oh, how to know the coordinates?😭

[marsh shard]

look in the map , at the top right corner of the screen there s coordinate

[rugged shard]

A

Oh

That’s…

Bit far

[marsh shard]

ye but 4 coal veins, you choose idk where you started

[rugged shard]

Rn i am in 947 1495

But I guess can still transport it so it’s fine i suppose

Just power lines that’s it

[marsh shard]

ye, it s not any item taht you ll need it just power

i m not sure if there s any better spot where your hub is, i just know that one is really good

[scenic mirage]

would 205 nuclear plants fit in the swamp

[rugged shard]

Alr ty

Is it worth that 5 metal makes 20 screws? (Hard drive)

[marsh shard]

one of the best

[hard ivy]

Probably? 80 overclocked ones definitely would

[marsh shard]

if not the best recipe imo

[rugged shard]

Hmm okay

[hard ivy]

It saves one step when making screws and nothing else. Very meh recipe

[rugged shard]

😭

[snow ginkgo]

it cost the same as well doesnt it?

[rugged shard]

5 metal per 20 screws

[hard ivy]

That is something only someone who hasn't gone past steel can say

[marsh shard]

he s early game

[snow ginkgo]

yeah but total doesnt it cost the sme like the 5 iron would still equal 20 screws if its in rods?

[rugged shard]

I think, but you don’t need iron rods then

[hard ivy]

It's a decent recipe early game but completely useless midgame and later

[marsh shard]

agree

[rugged shard]

Alr Ty

[scenic mirage]

yeah but ill be producing 43.65 uranium fuel rods/minute

[hard ivy]

That's ~90 NPPs @250%

That should fit fine

[scenic mirage]

then 78 more @ ~249% with plutonium and then 39 more @ ~249% with ficsonium

[hard ivy]

I usually build my nuclear over the northwestern ocean

and it has a lot more space than the swamp

it fit 400 reactors

[next galleon]

hi, ca nanyone help me with train problem ? I want to turn on slefdriving but the train just does not want to go, and I have no idea why

[scenic mirage]

#1038092680493801533

[scenic mirage]

#screenshots message
im planning on doing it here, where do you mean?

ahh oki i see

[real shale]

might have started a full on turf war between stingers and hogs.. oops

[rancid hearth]

Anyone got a nice looking coveyor lift tower to share in screenshots ?

[teal geyser]

Times when train station facing the wrong way was the problem: Infinite

Just like the hoverpack when trying to open a crash site drop pod that requires power

[vague burrow]

Is there a way to have time pass while the game is closed? I know you can do that with a server, but I wondered if I can do it on a local save.

[spare cradle]

Its like 2 coal gens to a water pump, right?

[rancid hearth]

most likely not without running a local server

[vague burrow]

3 water pumps to 8 coal gens.

[spare cradle]

That... is an awful ratio

But, alr

[vague burrow]

It's easiest to just do a couple 8/3 coal-power plants.

I'll allow you to breathe a little easier.

[dense violet]

ratios are imaginary - you can clock machines to need basically anything

if you do 'machine' maths instead of number math you're in real trouble in this game

[spare cradle]

I've touched the clocking, I am just worried my resources aren't enough

[dense violet]

that's why you do number math. and don't go '2 coal gens per water extractor'

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[dense violet]

these are very convenient layouts for coal gens

[teal geyser]

I actually use 1 water extractor clocked to 150% for 4 coal generators. Please don't hurt me

Edit: I seem to have killed the chat with my shocking revelation

[zealous urchin]

math is imaginary

[teal geyser]

2 + 2 = 5, right?

[mortal ginkgo]

#design-and-architecture message

I got 8 x 150% OWed water extractors here because it fit with the decorations.

Trust me, you are hardly doing anything heretic compared to me 😄

[unique pewter]

What is the best boombox tape if I like rock music, drumcore, etc

[clear pawn]

does this actually work in game?: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1pvjhbh/train/

[zealous urchin]

not wrong

[normal dawn]

Yes it works but I don't know how to Control it. I think it's a bug.

[teal geyser]

That looked pretty cool

[exotic idol]

uuuehhh guys uh can i post anywhere there my idea for satisfactory?

[dense violet]

wdym?

[teal geyser]

What kind of idea?

[dense violet]

if you want to talk about architecture or design? in design
maths? maths

[exotic idol]

when i was sitting on the toilet, i've created a concept of a train limited-time barrier. It plases in already built rails, and locks drive-tru for trains like its being the end of the rail. It's like 2 side stop barrier, +places on rails anywhere (but not turns, it's will be hard to do). It's limited-time because this build should not be permanent, so, if you click e on it, there will be a gui with "DEMOLISH SEQUENSE" button that destroys the barrier and gives you resourses back

bad english sorry

[dense violet]

I have no idea what you're trying to say sorry - but it doesn't sound like you're using in game mechanics

[teal geyser]

👀

Like, a one way barrier for trains? I almost had a stroke reading that

[exotic idol]

lemme use translator then and my concept art that i did

sec...

[unique pewter]

What are good boombox tapes?

[teal geyser]

That ones that you can put in the box and then they go boom?

[unique pewter]

Actually i have google nvm

[teal geyser]

Oh, I see how it is. 😭

You think a multi billion dollar company with a "search engine" is better than us?

[dense violet]

You generally want to listen to music yourself to see what you like....

[dense violet]

not the way google has gone these days

[teal geyser]

I feel genuinely betrayed. Sick to my stomach

[exotic idol]

same

[teal geyser]

I suppose

[exotic idol]

my stomach is having ww3 rn

[exotic idol]

I'm slightly improving my concept rn to make it atleast be nearby stockalike

[teal geyser]

Might need some Pepto Bismol, or a doctor if it is that bad lol

[exotic idol]

allat is because of Doshirak

[exotic idol]

I came up with a concept of a railway barrier that is placed on already existing straight rails (not at the end of the rails, and not at the turn of the rails). The barrier works as a one-way barrier, meaning it stops the train if the train's hitbox touches it, but it is a two-way barrier. I don't know or remember why I made this, but I like it. If you want to modify your railway system and trains are causing issues, you can install these barriers on both sides, preventing trains from passing through.
The train's autopilot won't just stand still, but it will display an alert (if you're on the train) saying "moving to the next station is not possible, stopping at the nearest point" or something similar, and then the train will stop near the barrier.

[exotic idol]

Also as i said, the barrier will self-demolish if button is pressed in it's own gui.

concept art goin in 5 minutz i think

[dense violet]

you would need a mod.

but also , just cancel the train route

instead of messing with every train that uses that rail

[exotic idol]

sometimes it's hard to cancel train routes, like if you have more than 5 trains (on my second save i have 10 trains moving in a single rail every 3 minutes)

[dense violet]

ok, but cancelling train routes should be extremely rare...

like tearing down a whole factory

[exotic idol]

it's cooler to place some like you are doing real maintenance, adds a small piece of realism and ((--NEW STRUCTURE--))

[dense violet]

because that's basically what you're doing

just delete a section of rail. Does the trick

[exotic idol]

barrier is more cooler version of doin so

[dense violet]

make a mod

[exotic idol]

i can't bec uh

no skills at all, no modeling skills, no scripting or even model moving to some kind of program

i cannot make a shape of ball in blender waduyuwant

[dense violet]

shrug , rarely delete a piece of rail and put stopper on it 😛

[exotic idol]

i've tried atleast

if only there will be a channel to share ideas with devs or atleast community that can make mods

i will done much text

woh

[teal geyser]

There is a modding discord

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[exotic idol]

wat was dat

[teal geyser]

THERE IT IS

[teal geyser]

What was wat?

[exotic idol]

idk

[exotic idol]

ooh oh oh that you much... guy that i don't know

my fingers WILL hurt

huh wat was dat

[teal geyser]

Why?

[exotic idol]

((\/--TEXT--//))

[teal geyser]

?

👀

[real shale]

god, those damn gas stingers invoke some fear into me lol

whoever did the sound design for those things, i hate you (not really) but also you should really look into doing horror game sound design

[mortal ginkgo]

what do you mean? #satisfactory message

[teal geyser]

I thought this was a horror game?!

[real shale]

only 2 in the red forest?

i got chased by goddamn 4 of them at the same time

im convinced one of them respawned immediately after i killed it

[mortal ginkgo]

There were also medium ones but green ones can jump so high that they didn't let me go. I HAD to fight lol.

Also I think it wasn't night time so it was only 2 there.

[real shale]

im currently doing a bit of a mega project which is bring all the coal and bauxite into one place and make a mega aluminium factory, so i came across those things building my logistics bridges across lol

[mortal ginkgo]

[remote orbit]

Fluid buffers will try to balance themselves infinitely without any flow directors won't they?

[teal geyser]

Fluid buffers? In this economy?!

Why are you using fluid buffers?

[remote orbit]

Just in case my battery plant runs out of alumina solution while the drone is making trips between my aluminium plant

[mortal ginkgo]

yes, Sloshing never ends in this game (realistic fluid physics yes)

[remote orbit]

I haven't got the drone fuel down 100% so im trying to make a little overflow if the drone runs out of fuel

[remote orbit]

Ok thought so

Also is it possible to completely empty a fluid buffer without pumps? The lowest I've been able to get them is under like 250m³

[teal geyser]

Do you understand the concept known as flushing?

[mortal ginkgo]

you can manually flush them or only use them in products for a while

[teal geyser]

Do you not flush in real life perhaps?

[mortal ginkgo]

wow... deepest lore?

[remote orbit]

Doesn't that get rid of what's in the pipe network / buffer?

[mortal ginkgo]

there are 2 options

[teal geyser]

#screenshots message 🤪

[remote orbit]

Ik, but I thought they just vanished the fluid 😂 im guessing im wrong?

[mortal ginkgo]

... Isn't that your aim? Are you meant to confuse us big dog?

What is your PURPOSE?!

[teal geyser]

I'm getting big trollololol vibes right now too

[remote orbit]

No so, I was wondering if its possible to completely empty a buffer without getting rid of the fluid completely

[whole crown]

make the iha's can sittable

flying trucks

[mortal ginkgo]

get rid of all other pipe connections to water sources..?

[remote orbit]

Ig?

[reef basin]

Should be possible, though I wouldn't use fluid buffers unless for train platforms

[remote orbit]

Its for just encase the factory runs out of aluminium solution between drone trips

[reef basin]

I wouldn't move alu solution tbh

[whole crown]

make more vehicles

flying vehicles

[teal geyser]

Just drink the aluminiumiumiumiumium solution

[whole crown]

like astroneer's vtol

[remote orbit]

Oh well, I've already incorporated it into my factory 😂🤷 im not having more stuff being pulled into the red forest when I have a pure sulfur being mined for my ammunition/ compact fuel factroy that pumps compact fuel down to my oil refinery 🤷

[tawdry star]

👍

[river latch]

Guys its my first time satisfactory started yesterday where on the map should i place the spacelift ? any tips ?

[gritty zealot]

wherever you want!!!

if you just started you probably dont have to think about a permanent location

[river latch]

okay thx

[remote orbit]

Turns out I do infact have a sulfur line going into my aluminium factory 💀

Its being used to make compacted coal for the coal genes that power my aluminium factory 😐

[mortal ginkgo]

only solution I see is reinstalling windows in a new PC and living in new house, sorry

[remote orbit]

New xbox* but yeah pretty much 🤣

[real shale]

me breaking into a windows users home to install linux on their computer

[mystic plank]

yo if i dismantle hub and space elevator does it lose progress or nah?

[spare cradle]

What were those coal diagrams again?

[mental raft]

is it possible to make a custom ITX case for my home server that looks like the radio control unit? if so what dimensions should i use

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[unborn vessel]

whats this?

[remote orbit]

Luckily the battery factory only took me like an hour to set up 😂 so I can still rebuild it in my aluminium plant

[mortal ginkgo]

DAMNIT! - I mean I am really happy for you big dog like omg my man

[mental raft]

is it possible to make a custom ITX case for my home server that looks like the radio control unit? if so what dimensions should i use

[remote orbit]

Its only a single blender atm :P

[teal geyser]

Try asking a third time maybe

[mental raft]

alr

[mortal ginkgo]

I would still suggest restarting the game at least. The damage might be not visible but might be there in the long run. (I am sure all autosaves are corrupted too btw yes)

[teal geyser]

Or, instead of asking here, you might get a better response on Reddit

[unborn vessel]

how many nodes are for those diagrams? like coal nodes?

[mental raft]

alright thanks

[real shale]

Sentences I never thought i'd see anyone say

[teal geyser]

Haha

[mortal ginkgo]

at least he didn't say Wikipedia

[hard ivy]

however many you need to make the amount of coal those gens use. there is no set number

[teal geyser]

Those diagrams are for the water extractor to coal generator ratio blah blah stuff

[hallow kiln]

i just bought the game its so good

[unborn vessel]

could you put this in retard for me. my brain is fried and it would mean alot

[teal geyser]

#screenshots channel for these

[hallow kiln]

But why is it so addicting😭

[teal geyser]

I'll try my best.

Link go to pictures. Pictures show water things connected to power things. Water things make water. Pipe things bring water from water things to power things. Set number of water things give enough water to set number of power things.

[teal geyser]

The factory must grow of course

[unborn vessel]

so water thing is good and other thingy is better

got it. Thanks

[real shale]

Me deciding to do another mega project as opposed to completing phase 4

[mortal ginkgo]

phase 4 is a mega project by itself compared to other phases (including 5, funny enough)

[feral dragon]

I think I saw somewhere a mod so the game doesn't stutter everytime it autosaves but I can't find it now. Anyone knows?

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont think such a mod can exist.. it is much better now than prior to 1.0 etc

[real shale]

I'm sucking up all the bauxite in the red forest

And a good chunk of the coal too I guess

[mortal ginkgo]

chungus project indeed

[real shale]

Conveyor highways go brrr

[mortal ginkgo]

bro trains blz

[real shale]

Conveyor highways better for what I'm trying to do

That would be a LOT of trains in an otherwise difficult to navigate area of the map because I need to draw coal, bauxite and water into the same location

[unborn vessel]

sounds fun 😁 . Thank god im still on phase 2

[gritty zealot]

enjoy it while it lasts

[unborn vessel]

not for long. just set up auto wire and auto versitile

im cooked

[gritty zealot]

ive been trying to complete phase 3 for 6 months now

im just about to start on computers

[fast ruin]

Train are really nice until you need to set up a station that is as big as the factory

[mortal ginkgo]

I couldnt find why people think Stations are chungus. But then I realised, most of those people are not decorating, if at all

when you want to make a really well decorated wall, you need like 3 foundations of empty space around

and thats for one part of the factory. the space required can go up to 10x if you are really into decorating

so when I put the Station on my base, it actually looked... small 😄

[teal geyser]

I think you mean "acquire a better PC"

[mortal ginkgo]

"download more RAM"

[teal geyser]

from the 5th page of Google as well (JOKES!!!! THIS IS NOT SERIOUS!!!!!!)

[real shale]

In this economy even downloading ram is expensive

[mortal ginkgo]

I second that brother 😔

[feral dragon]

13th Gen Intel i7-13700KF, 4100 MHz
32GB DDR5 4800MHz
Geforce RTX 3070
Fedora KDE

[real shale]

he has 32 GB of RAM, get him.

[teal geyser]

When I got a new PC, all the stuttering from the autosaves went away

[teal geyser]

SICK HIM BOYS!!!!

[real shale]

LMAO i went afk for a bit and came back to a stinger at the corner of my eye

[molten cove]

should i buy the game?

[real shale]

yes

[molten cove]

i started playing it lended from a friend

[real shale]

unless you have a social life and responsibilities, then tread carefully

[molten cove]

but i got demotivated once i realized how much stuff you actually need

[unique pewter]

Ok im having a tad bit of trouble with pipes. I haven’t had to do the weird stuff I am doing the last time I did it

[molten cove]

no?

okay. Cyall

[unique pewter]

Im having to place a pump for every single coal plant for some reason. Is there a more efficient way?

[sweet flower]

hello.

[ivory condor]

I was just joking

[deep bloom]

heyo!

[ivory condor]

omg the person actually left

[teal geyser]

Pump as in Pipeline Pump or Water Extractor?

[teal geyser]

Damn. We were too mean to the little fella

[ivory condor]

rip another player that will never know the joy of this game, sad

[unique pewter]

Pipeline pump

[sweet flower]

i need some help. i have a industry container. wher 2 belt go out. but fore a wierd reason only 1 belt get fedet. if i delt the 1 belt it switch tho the other. and wen i reconect the other belt. it switch back. any idea?

[ivory condor]

It's my fault I didn't think they would take my joke so seriously

[teal geyser]

Is your water extractor(s)/water source significantly lower than your coal generators?

[unique pewter]

No

But it isn’t flowing unless I do that for some reason

[golden nexus]

put it in #screenshots

[unique pewter]

Same level

[golden nexus]

Just the 2 extracotrs? how many coal gens?

[unique pewter]

4, bouta do 6 and another extractor

[golden nexus]

Well you don't need a pump for each one, your doing something wrong somewhere

[unique pewter]

I think the pumps were just slowing it down

It seems fine now

I deleted them

[spare cradle]

#screenshots message

[sweet flower]

#screenshots message any idea how i fix that? one of the belt got not fedet

[mortal ginkgo]

you are not providing enough for 2 belts to be fed. Storage Mk2 is not a splitter

[deep bloom]

Is 16 coal gens too small of an amount for mid phase 2

[sweet flower]

oh. interresting. thx

[golden nexus]

It depends....

[deep bloom]

just wondering how much others do at that point in the game

[golden nexus]

Its like you can charge up power storage and "go for it"

[golden nexus]

We made it on this #screenshots message

Which is 32 of course...

[deep bloom]

because I'm currently having my coal power plant at the blue crator lake with the coal nodes there. I thought it would have been way better than it was

[deep bloom]

ooh, where's that?

[golden nexus]

north of grass fiels

[deep bloom]

I could use compacted coal, not sure how much better it is

[deep bloom]

ah, I'll have to check it out

[golden nexus]

I have made it on this before... which is 16. But be prepared you have to be efficent and not have bitten off more than is absolutly required #screenshots message

So it is possible on 16, But you need to juggle a bit normally

[deep bloom]

my steel plant takes up half of my worlds power so I probably get better power infrastructure

[deep bloom]

good to play around with it and get used to it eventually

[golden nexus]

Yeah thats normal, Its when oil kicks in you get to get to the fuel gen quickly

[deep bloom]

yeah excited for oil, I'm kinda just rushing everything so once I get there then I will probably have to redo all my infrastructure because it was kinda rushed to get to the point of oil

just I don't ever know the point of when something becomes permanent

[golden nexus]

There is subtle ways to tell, assume everything changes until after mk3 belts or so, but in reality mk3 miners @ 250% is when things are not going to get any faster

[deep bloom]

yeah

[golden nexus]

but if you offload things lik eplates, rod, wire, cable, copper sheet they can become perm much sooner. I tend to throw them off onto an impure node cause you don't need them doing more than like 60/min ever.....

[deep bloom]

I'll probably know it once I get to the point

[deep bloom]

ah, good to know

[spare cradle]

I'm gonna need to make a biofuel gen that produces 144 MW to jumpstart my coal gen

[golden nexus]

why?

[spare cradle]

The drills and water extracters

[untold oak]

How can i remove the rocks

[deep bloom]

yeah, that's what I did takes a bit for the coal gen to warm up

[deep bloom]

nobelisks

[untold oak]

How to unlock it

[spare cradle]

I need them to run for a bit before the gen can be self sufficient

[spare cradle]

Sulfur and MAM.

[deep bloom]

You unlock it in the MAM

[golden nexus]

Turn off the coal gens, underclock the extractor to like 5% and the same with the miner, let it buffer and then kick it... then charge a power storage for a few minutes when plug the whole thing in

[subtle swallow]

is satisfactory popular game

[untold oak]

Bruh im new idk whats mam😭

[deep bloom]

one of the most of its genre I believe

[golden nexus]

Yeah, Everyone in here seems ot love it

[spare cradle]

Considering this server has 250k members, ye.

[deep bloom]

basically a bunch of tech trees. it is a building you can place

[subtle swallow]

i love the game

[deep bloom]

yeah, same. it is addictive

[golden nexus]

Gotta hit that big red button

[subtle swallow]

how many hours

[deep bloom]

only about 81

[golden nexus]

noob

[deep bloom]

ive been watching players play the game for years, so I know whats to come

kinda, don't know the psychological part of it

[golden nexus]

Yeah, I ifnished game in 80 hours last time 😛 but yeah i remmber when first playing its easy to get turned around and have no idea where anything is

[ivory condor]

lets see according to steam, this game has 125k in overwhelmingly positive reviews👀

[golden nexus]

Theres things you learn the first playthough and then in the 2nd/3rd... you know which things need nailed and which don't

[deep bloom]

damn, impressive. I am kinda taking my time and exploring and building a lot. And procrastinating. but yeah would be harder for new new players who have never seen videos or anything

[deep bloom]

yeah you get better and quicker each playthrough I assume

[golden nexus]

umm kinda, sometimes its just a mess and goes wrong

[deep bloom]

interesting

[golden nexus]

especially in multiplayer....

[golden nexus]

You mentioned steel using all your power? This is mine.... #screenshots message

[deep bloom]

Satisfactory is more of a singleplayer game though, no?

[golden nexus]

its both

[deep bloom]

yeah, but I have heard that a lot of people prefer the game in single player. even people who like multiplayer

[golden nexus]

you get a whole new set of challanges in multiplayer.. especially if ytou have people who know what they are doing... like you need double/tripple the build materials early on

[subtle swallow]

how many hours do u have

[golden nexus]

2.5k

[deep bloom]

yeah never thought of that. and especially for me i'm a control freak so I have also heard that is a reason people don't play multiplayer a lot in satisfactory

[subtle swallow]

and u still find it fun?

[golden nexus]

Thats what i was able to get thte game down to in terms of all items ot T9 #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

Its different, I took a break for a year

[subtle swallow]

last question. how often do they update

[golden nexus]

1-2 per year now thats its released.

We will see what comes with 1.2. But i thin it needs its game mode / stuff shaken up a goog bit

[sterile blade]

Well, those are the big updates, but patches can come any time of the year that's not vacation

Especially with experimental not being used

[golden nexus]

Like it needs an advanced mode. Something like a "trader style" like you trade smart plate for spheres / sloops or something eg do contracts or something along thoose lines. What happens to expirenced players is they get annoyed with having to run the map each game

[deep bloom]

Damn!

[dry cradle]

they could probably put that in like a tab in the AWSOME shop or smth

[hallow kiln]

WHAT THE HELL😭 i accidentaly fell in some kind of cave and got attacked by some shitty spiders. I got scared af😭 i thought it was chill game

[golden nexus]

PvP would be interesting in the context of "You have a 8x8x8 box to work in, heres your materials, first person to deliver X wins"

[deep bloom]

There is an arachnophobia mode if you want to turn it on

[golden nexus]

They kinda do for hard disks

[sterile blade]

Note: there is an option to help against aracnophpbia

[sterile blade]

I think there's at least one mod doing that

[dry cradle]

tbh i never got to experience full satisfactory in all it's glory because my PC is a potato and runs it at 5 fps on the lowest settings

[golden nexus]

i saw a youtuber do it, but the messurment for it sucks

[dry cradle]

would it be like 8 foundations type measurement or 8 buildings

[golden nexus]

Like everything must be inside a box of a certain size/shape

So you could make the box 5x5x5 for example. Or 5x5x25

[dry cradle]

whats the base of measurement tho

[golden nexus]

foundations

[sullen gull]

5x5 what?

[dry cradle]

ah ok

[sterile blade]

I use FicsitCam for that...
Surely annoying compared to just always having good graphics during gameplay, but in the absence of that one can at least record videos at even better quality than normal to admire the fruits of their labor

[golden nexus]

same as blueprinter box

[sullen gull]

So, that is 40mx40m.... how hard is that to measure?

[dry cradle]

if i try to take any videos or photos the game crashes

like from any outside recording software

[sterile blade]

That's what I was about to ask 😆

FicsitCam is a mod, so it might be worth a shot as it's all in-game stuff ^^

[dry cradle]

true

[sterile blade]

It's basically a (very) enhanced photo-mode

[dry cradle]

Coughing baby VS Hydrogen bomb

[sullen gull]

🤷‍♂️ I record videos through Steam. Never had an issue.

[dry cradle]

i do that too but i cant download them because i havent unlocked my account yet

i havent done anything with 5 dollars

[deep bloom]

there should be a quicksave feature

[sullen gull]

They aren't avaliable by going to View > Recordings and Screenshots through steam?

[sterile blade]

Tbf, it would be more accurate to say that FicsitCam renders videos rather than recording them ...
In other words: even with poor hardware, the output video can have any framerate/quality

[unique pewter]

So like am I at the point where it’s gonna be an ass pain to produce the new stuff now? (Teir 4 and beyond)

Or post steel unlock

[golden nexus]

It depends how you do it

If you solve the problem well its quite easy, if you don't your in for a bad time.... but sooner or later you will start to run out of bad ideas 😉

[sterile blade]

Ngl, I often end up buying some parts to skip the initial grind to unlock things...

[unique pewter]

I have everything else being produced, though not at maximum effeciency, it is good enough to where I have what I need usually

[golden nexus]

Normally you then still just have to go back and automate all the parts immediatly

Its like you can do unlocks... but you can only unlock about 1-1.5 Tiers above what you have automated before it becomes a complete waste of time

[unique pewter]

I like and hate the game atm because I love games like this, but for some reason this one in particular feels like way too much

[dry cradle]

are there any VCs in this server

[unique pewter]

Like imma have to set up 100 machines for one output to be done somewhat efficiently

[golden nexus]

This is all parts to T9 #screenshots message

[robust nova]

Do I really not need pumps for gases?

[unique pewter]

?

[dry cradle]

nope, you do not

[golden nexus]

Thats what you can fold hte game down into.... is 5 buildings and a power supply

[robust nova]

haha I definately just made some assumptions then, I just wanted to be safe lol

[verbal pine]

Bro when 1.2

I wanna play game

[unique pewter]

My base kinda looks like (or did) this: #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

Closer look #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

What do you think 1.2 is going to bring that you can't play now?

[golden nexus]

Yup this is why its "becoming too much" lol

[golden nexus]

golf

[unique pewter]

I just need more space prob

[real shale]

fluid trucks my beloved

[unique pewter]

Might build a layer over everything

[golden nexus]

I skip trucks 🙂

[verbal pine]

I’m hoping it fixes fluid so I don’t spend another 12 hrs on a factory that works at 33% because fluid doesn’t want to fluid

[sullen gull]

Then fix your plumbing

[verbal pine]

I tried, rebuilt it 4 times

[golden nexus]

Its spectulation if they are going to fix the sloosh effect which a lot of poeple have problems with

[verbal pine]

Each time I had a new issue, followed the book to the dot

[sullen gull]

Send me your save, I'll fix it it for you.

[dry cradle]

I tried to set up trains but the depots didnt want to pick up the stuff off the train so i gave up

[verbal pine]

I don’t want someone to play the game for me, I want the game to work and not be buggy

Appreciate the offer tho, that is nice of you

[golden nexus]

All soluitons work in the game 😉

Or work within 99% of optimal

[sullen gull]

Again, most likely just a mis understanding. You can use my "fix" as a guide. But, there is nothing "wrong" with pipes when plumbing is done "correctly"

[golden nexus]

Yup, What happens to people is fluid runs backwards in the pipe which counts as "usage"

[robust nova]

do you all make like a main hub where all things go to, or just use transport options to send everything everywhere?

[unique pewter]

Question. Could I keep my old base, have auto driving trucks or trains transporting what is made there to a new location, and start trying to be neat?

[golden nexus]

Quantum depots....

[golden nexus]

Yes

[unique pewter]

Might do that

[robust nova]

ah fair enough

[verbal pine]

So are pipes not buggy then?

[sullen gull]

When trying to do some very strange things, sure.

[golden nexus]

All issues have solutions

[sullen gull]

Otherwise, not in my expierence.

[golden nexus]

Sometimes the solutions are as simple as this #screenshots message

[verbal pine]

I’ve tried this and had more issues I believe

[golden nexus]

Would need ot see the build....

[sullen gull]

Which should be the "standard" as fluids work infinitely better when in a loop instead of trying to feed a long deadheaded manifold.

[verbal pine]

I think I might have sent a sc her a few months ago lemme check

[golden nexus]

Yup cause you get "blowback" from the last T junction

[dry cradle]

have you thought about putting like a fluid buffer there or smth

[sullen gull]

Or more due to the fact of the way "pressure" works imo

[sullen gull]

Usuallly adds more issues unless the pioneer knows what they are doing.

[golden nexus]

There is also all sorts of work arounds for it, like split early in half and split the ref's into 2 party

[dry cradle]

the way i think of it is just a really thick pipe

[golden nexus]

It also depends what you mean by "issues" like when this is occuring you get like within 2% of the target rate anywat

[verbal pine]

So that was very early in the build, I eventually made it fill from the top to bottom, used then removed buffers, added a loop to top section, then bottom

If u saw my Screenshot from:LegitChipmmunk I have only 6 images in

Eventually I made the liquid a gas and they helped a bit

[sullen gull]

Given all the talk of height, I'm going to assume headlift issues.

[verbal pine]

I had a water tower which had no issues for the most part (from what I could tell) and eventually just made it a gas to eliminate the possibility

[sullen gull]

Water towers are not an "answer" and never needed. Can look cool, but that's about it.

Given your screen shots here: #1419819720055586938 message

You would need a pump on each of those refineries since you were going up higher than 10m

[golden nexus]

need pumped

[mortal ginkgo]

I solved my 100% mk2 pipe throughput issue by separating the pipe via junction to feed from both sides, and having a pump on those 2 sides.

It 100% works even when I feed from below.

Fayt me.

~~nobody comes to fayt 😔 ~~

[robust nova]

upgraded my turbo fuel to rocket fuel, and now I spend a lot of time troubleshooting

I think I got it finallyhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1454526310532775986/image.png?ex=695168b0&is=69501730&hm=afedbeaa45ddb4a331fd29c4b11e11849f49f19ddc9cf8e42a1e4087cc00207f&

[somber smelt]

how much fuel do trucks use?

[dry cradle]

i jus launched the game up again and the only thing thats not laggy is the loading screens

[robust nova]

Here is my power plant 🙂
#screenshots message

[merry dagger]

europ

[robust nova]

going to add packagers at the end to supply fuel needs as well

[gentle whale]

Howdy fokes

Has anyone else experiencing the game crashing after 5 to 15 minutes of playtime? I needs help please

[somber smelt]

not really

[dry cradle]

I recorded my framerate for everyone to see

[somber smelt]

what was the keybind to start nudging buildings (small moves)

[leaden turret]

H

[somber smelt]

oh thanks

[robust nova]

This has probably been answered, but does the fixcmas stuff just poof after the event?

[flint valve]

Placed items stay, but if u wanna get the stuff again u can change your devices date to get them

[unborn vessel]

which is better Rigor motor or Steel Rotor. Or do i refresh

[golden nexus]

Steel, Use the CO's for something else later

[unborn vessel]

im up to phase 3 tho

like just got to phase 3

[golden nexus]

with steel doing rotor+stator you can get it all in a single buildings eg pipe -> stator->rotor -> motor

[unborn vessel]

ok

ill do the rotor then. Thanks

[golden nexus]

It can end up like this... #screenshots message which is beam, encased, stator, rotor, motor, mod frame, heavy mod frame 🙂

[zealous urchin]

meanwhile copper rotor

[unborn vessel]

that doesnt look fun

[golden nexus]

Its simple, remember like 30% of the game is in one building like that

[unborn vessel]

ok

[golden nexus]

Not saying do all of it. Only 3-4 floors of it eg stator/rotor -> motor

[unborn vessel]

ive got like 6 mini factories...

[golden nexus]

what i do is put the wire/concrete in another building next to it

[unborn vessel]

ok off to bed its 4 in the morning

[robust nova]

Now that I have power stable, time to revamp a couple of my starter factories

[winter grotto]

anybody wanna get on with me? I’m new to the game and just trying to find someone to play with. (dm if)

[leaden turret]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[tall lantern]

If you're new I'd advise not to try and copy from someone else, work things out on your own as much as possible.
But failing that, #1201555265942724758

[somber smelt]

is heavy flexible frame worth taking?

[sullen gull]

When you don't need an alt just yet, just leave it in the list until you need/want it.

Otherwise, there are enough drives on the map for all alts and every alt can have it's use.

[cinder jay]

hello

[somber smelt]

is diluted packaged fuel better then the stock recipes?

unironically im makin a small sized power plant and this is the recipe i just got

[sullen gull]

It produces the most fuel from the least amount of oil with the addition of water. Can also go with Diluted Packaged if you want "less plumbing"

[golden nexus]

yes, but there is a 2nd diluted fuel which doesn't need a packager loop, which is better and easier in the blender

[sterile blade]

You'll have to automate them eventually, ofc, but I like to have as much tech aviable as possible before making "the" factory.
Conversely (before I used to buy stuff freely), I often ended up making temporary setups before rebuilding them after unlocking a few more things...

[somber smelt]

yea i dont got blenders yet

[sullen gull]

DPF is done in a refinery

[golden nexus]

yeah happens a lot, its personal play choice of course, i tend ot build factories which scale as you progress

[somber smelt]

(was refferin to this)

[somber smelt]

so i guess i should make it instead

[golden nexus]

I know but i replied to somebody else about a previous conversation as well 😛

[sullen gull]

Ahh, Nm, my blind ass read your first question as Diluted fuel .. not diluted packaged. My bad.

[somber smelt]

#screenshots i got this one

[golden nexus]

This is diluted fuel with Crude -> HOR -> Blender #screenshots message

[somber smelt]

yea i dont got that yet

[golden nexus]

Yeah, That one works as well, It's like extractor -> water -> packer -> ref -> unpacker -> (this loops the containers back to packer) and you have fuel as well

Its a PITA compared to blenders

[sullen gull]

You can make a blueprint for it. It's not much more difficult.

[golden nexus]

You have extractors, packer, ref, unpacker (4) machines per refiney.... of which you need about 10x eg 40+ machines vs 8 blenders

[sullen gull]

Just requires making containers from iron or plastic

[golden nexus]

Yup, I would normally hold out until blenders 🙂

[hallow kiln]

should I build space elevator near base or somewhere more far from my base

[somber smelt]

soooo

stick with the stock recipe then

[golden nexus]

you can move it in 3 clicks if its in wrong place

[sullen gull]

Where ever you deem fancy

[golden nexus]

unless you have an urjent need for power?

[somber smelt]

im kinda makin it for power rn

[golden nexus]

but do you need a little power or a lot?

[somber smelt]

im half way empty with power storage

not too much

my plan is to use full 600 oil

[golden nexus]

cause slapping down a standard fuel gen setup is typically eouugh... but its your game.... your choice

[somber smelt]

and some of it for power and some for packaged fuel

[sullen gull]

I wouldn't worry too much about packaging fuel at the moment.

[golden nexus]

you running trucks?

[somber smelt]

i was thinking about starting some

[sullen gull]

If you wanted for jetpack, I would just keep using Liquid Biofuel for that.

[somber smelt]

cuz when i thought of doing another belt lane and bring it back

[golden nexus]

Yeah if its for jetpack? Then pack liquid biofuel... ignore normal fuel

if you wanna run trucks... just make some off the back of the HOR from plastic / rubber production and pack that

[somber smelt]

HOR?

[golden nexus]

if you want drones run them on turbo/rocket fuel later or on battries or nuclear

[golden nexus]

Heavy Oil residue

[somber smelt]

aaaaa

[native frost]

You can run them on nuclear?

[frosty nimbus]

So

I started a playthrough with friends. They decided that heavy flexible frames were better than encased. I want to cry

[golden nexus]

i guess they had not used enough screws yet and wanted to use more screws

[somber smelt]

who willingly uses screws

[golden nexus]

i do actually

[somber smelt]

h u h

[golden nexus]

but not for that

[somber smelt]

i mean if you have some good alt recipe then i guess

[tired cypress]

Is there a way to make blueprint autoconnect work for power lines?

[golden nexus]

Like bolted plate

[somber smelt]

how much fuel do trucks use bdw

and do refineries have any head lift even like 1 meter?

[shy mulch]

All buildings with fluid output include 10m headlift

[magic rune]

remind me again how far apart two rails have to be for block signals to behave? is it one foundation apart edge-to-edge of the decorative bits?

[golden nexus]

You can do them a foundation apart eg 2x across. Each track on centre line

[golden nexus]

This #1452376735759732766 message

[magic rune]

oh wow, that's super close. i remember last time i did trains (upd8 8), i had to have them be a full foundation apart the whole line though, otherwise block signals go funny on curves

[golden nexus]

careful on the corners......

[magic rune]

my usual train method is, blueprint a tower for elevated rails, put them at arbitrary positions (using a hypertube as the "length checker" since my rails double as tube networks), then connect the rails together freeform

[tame bobcat]

what is temp purity, keep seeing it pop up on the map once then never again

[magic rune]

supposedly it's the breakable deposits you find, i think

[tired cypress]

Depends on distance, fuel type, maybe terrain?

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @tired cypress

[tired cypress]

idk the command to search for a page

[sullen gull]

Go to the page and use the Search box at the top right 😏

[tame bobcat]

aghh its annoying when they show up on scanners can i disable that or not

i only want nodes 😭

[magic rune]

doubtful. they're showing up for me even with the Remove All Annoyances mod, which prevents them from even spawning in the first place

[sullen gull]

As soon as you hit v and scan, open your map. Mark the ones that don't say temp before they vanish. Using the tools along the bottom (Not sure how it works if on console)

[young rivet]

You can put water extractors above water instead of like directly on the water???

[tame bobcat]

😭😭 damn

[magic rune]

so a scan ping for uranium will show a cluster of Temp nodes for the "trapped" areas, even though RAA deleted the spicy rocks already

[true mulch]

wikisearch

[tired cypress]

that sounds like a bug

[full thorn]

I like to think that fuel is just Fanta and Turbo Fuel is Big Red

[sullen gull]

What's Rocket Fuel?

[full thorn]

Uh

Both of em that miraculously turned into a gas

[mystic otter]

Rocket fuel you research in MAM under the sulfur tree if I remember correctly.

It provides quite a bit more power then turbofuel.

[tired cypress]

it's red bull

[sullen gull]

Lol, yes yes, I am aware. I was referring to the analogy they were giving 😏

[mystic otter]

Except rocket fuel doesn't give you wings 😉

[mystic otter]

Oy lol

[tired cypress]

but it would probably make your heart feel funny just like red bull does

[chilly spear]

i have constructed the empire state building

[sullen gull]

Ohhh, speaking of which ...

goes to grab a Juneberry

[unique pewter]

Ooo are there realistic reactors on here perchance?

I am very knowledgeable in how to operate nuclear reactors for whatever reason

And how to make U-235 :)

I heard there were reactors or sum idk if they are realistic or not

[flat kettle]

anyone looking for a new world ?

[sullen gull]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[robust nova]

haha my blenders stopped... and I lost all my power RIP

[tired cypress]

my main power plant went offline because I accidentally deleted a critical railroad segment

[tired cypress]

they're quite unrealistic but I think there are mods for more realistic ones

[robust nova]

quick fix, i just added overflow sinks to the lines after the blenders before it falls back into the main line

[tired cypress]

they were even less realistic in some early betas, didn't require water

[plain gate]

maybe oil power should cause climate change to the map

soot everywhere so the players are incentivised to go nuclear

[stone moth]

Just unlocked oil power

[plain gate]

mwahaha

[golden nexus]

Which is just so much better for the state of the map when you have tons of nuclear waste

[stone moth]

What a coincidence i didnt even read the previous messages before messaging

I just hopped on discord and said that i unlocked oil power

[golden nexus]

Go forth and ruin the planet

[stone moth]

Lol

[golden nexus]

You probably already done significant deforestation......

[stone moth]

No, ive mostly used coal power

[lone shoal]

I have a quick question about blueprint auto-connect featue. Are there any preconditions for it to work? I am testing it with a sample railway blueprint, and I can't seem to see auto-connect mode in the build wheel

[cunning glade]

Is 1 crystal oscillators a min good for building

If I can like type properly

[golden nexus]

no

[cunning glade]

How many is then?

[golden nexus]

depending on what you do later about 15-80

[cunning glade]

Oh that

[cunning glade]

I'm talking just for build gun and personal use?

[golden nexus]

what do they build?

[cunning glade]

Signs and shit also research

[fast ruin]

Radar tower

[cunning glade]

I haven't decided if I'm making a factory for them or not

[fallen lily]

Hello

[cunning glade]

Ik I'm gonna need at least 30 a min

I also don't know if I want the computers for cubes too be made all in the same factory

Cuz assuming I do I need about 90 computers a min

Yeah but this is just what's going into a dd

I think I'm just gonna hand feed machines for phase 3 rq

[fast ruin]

Then you reach phase 4 💀

[cunning glade]

Yes I need phase 4

I can't make really any of my factorys till I get mk3 miners

[west pilot]

elden ring trained me for satisfactory.

These hog aleins think their the shit but nah 🗣

[cunning glade]

Well ofc ik I can but where's the fun in that

I've already beat phase 3 before I just need mk3 miners

My hmf factory needs about 3k iron

[west pilot]

Im sure Ill be fine... maybe... 💔

[cunning glade]

Doing that with mk4 belts no thx

Cuz I need at least 30 hmf a min

What?

I'm not even sure 400gw is gonna be enough this time

[junior turtle]

guys i completed tier 4 on hub and i have 6 coal generator with 3 water extractor. i need a build plan for reaching space elevator phase 2 and for the future things

[cunning glade]

My 30 nuclear pasta a min is gonna take 104340.12 MW

And that's before slooping

Yeah phase 3 should be harder

[sick falcon]

just unlocked turbomotors, why did the components suddenly double in complexity

[green fiber]

because the game decided "playtime's over - only serious business now"

[junior turtle]

any tips and helps?

[cunning glade]

Phase 4 for u

[glass pagoda]

What is up

[cunning glade]

Man phase 3 really is hand feeding phase

[fast ruin]

I got new alternates recipes, except i don't wanna destroy and rebuild my screw factory

[sick falcon]

maybe i become a phase 3 hermit

[cunning glade]

Phase 4 is when it gets fun tho

[idle wren]

yo, yesterday i downloaded the game, i clicked numbers on calendar but didnt take out the rewards due to not having space/not learning containers yet, i went to bed and now i wanted to collect them but i cant click on numbers anymore
did i just missed event ?

[fast ruin]

I reached phase 4 and just setting up aluminium is a pain

[cunning glade]

Nah aluminum is fun

I made a small plant for my first time ever trying it and it makes 5600ingots a min

I used instant and it was easy

Fuck electrode

[versed cosmos]

electrode is awesome wth

[cunning glade]

I hate it

Loath it

[magic rune]

...this always gets me every time, do path/block signals always go "Signal loops back onto itself!!!" in the blueprint designer, but the bp works as intended once placed in the world?

[cunning glade]

Acid is easy

Water and sulfur

U only need the sulfur too

The aluminum provides the water

[versed cosmos]

ooh thats smart

im not at aluminium yet in my current save but im gonna make diluted fuel with my byproduct water

[turbid gazelle]

Oh man you know it's good when go afk and come back to this#screenshots message

[cunning glade]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=hMoH61MSbyW3zyQdgmqM this was my first aluminum factory

[versed cosmos]

this is what im dling eith HOR to make the coke and turn the water into fuel

also gonna use the polymer resin to make rubber for heat exchangers

[magic rune]

the motto of shapez is that it's "not an idle game", you always should be building more. weirdly enough, SF has points where it is an idle game, you've unlocked everything in a phase and you genuinely can't "do" anything new until you've waited for the space elevator to fill up...

[sullen gull]

Always something to do! Beautification! 😏

[versed cosmos]

ooh instant scrap does reduce your blueprint by a lot

[sick falcon]

spaghettification

[sullen gull]

Sadly not for now. borked the save

[sullen gull]

Nevah! Lasagna if anything 😏

[magic rune]

you were warned not to loop the loop-organ!

[versed cosmos]

my set up is gonna use almost all of its byproducts im pretty happy with it

unfortuately on mobile rn so i cant get the link

oh man ive never got that far

[undone citrus]

Agony...

I don't want to finish phase 3

[hot mango]

whys this game still giving me presants christmas is over 🤷

[undone citrus]

I refuse. Adaptive control units is already suffering

[undone citrus]

It's until January something

[versed cosmos]

phase 4 is insane. ive got like 700 hours and never completed it

[undone citrus]

I'm already in 300. But I'm just building

My world tho is 160 hours

[hot mango]

i just got another one 😺

[undone citrus]

And 2 others over 20 hours

Yeah it's nice

[hot mango]

i have already made more than 10 and it has stopped raining resants

[golden nexus]

You all forget to optimize for time? :S

[versed cosmos]

i turned off ficsmas and ada was v happy with me

[undone citrus]

Not really.

[hot mango]

it keeps giving me the exploding ones

[versed cosmos]

exploding gifts are fun

[hot mango]

thanks

[undone citrus]

I treat satisfactory like Minecraft creative mode with the option to be train tycoon simulator or automation simulation

[sullen gull]

Or can stop it now through the settings if desired.

[undone citrus]

Will your machines set to automate parts still run and the trees still work

Or is everything disabled and just taking up space

So gift trees stop?

[hot mango]

railroad tycoon i think it was called when it 1st came out, i used to play that on the amiga i think it was

[golden nexus]

We have a Tier 8 game at 60-80 hours.

[magic rune]

i think my 1.0 save hit around 300 hours to completion

[real shale]

Hello, thats me

[golden nexus]

I have another single player which is Phase 5 (half done) at 80 hours

[undone citrus]

We got tier 3 in 10 then split off to build our own stuff

Speedran phase 3 so we could actually do stuff then basically went to do our own stuff starting from scratch

[magic rune]

currently at 110h mid phase 3 on my modded 1.1 run (all unlocks done, just working on infra and power before i can do the elevator parts)

[golden nexus]

We are doing something like the first phase in the first 2 hours.....

[undone citrus]

I've considered starting a world with advanced settings so everything is unlocked so I can play normally but without the restrictions of progression

But idk if I'd like that

[undone citrus]

First phase is super easy

[golden nexus]

Its better not to, you need to encounter all the problems first

[real shale]

the problem is im addicted

[undone citrus]

Counter argument, if I run into problems on that world I'm prepared on my main legit world

Ive been learning via brute forcing mostly

Taught myself train signals by immediately attempting a 4 way intersection

Fair. My first world it took me probably around 7 hours cause I was building and checking things out

[golden nexus]

Do you mean 50 per minute? #screenshots message

[undone citrus]

But on my latest world it took us around 45 minutes to get set up with basic automation and then hand feed the machines

I'm currently building a steel plant

[real shale]

Do you mean 500 per minute?

[golden nexus]

I sacrificed 4 impure nodes for that 😛

[undone citrus]

Cause the way we're doing our world is we all specialize in stuff

So I'm making mass steel production and ignoring basically everything else

[real shale]

jumpscared by my own hoverpack, amazing

[undone citrus]

We're treating it as an economy

[real shale]

had the arc appear right in front of my face and thought i got struck by lightning

[undone citrus]

It's fun. I'm making steel products, another friend is doing oil products and my last friend is doing a massive iron factory, cause he got the grass fields

[stone moth]

Is it possiible so that if a storage container is full, then the output goes into an awesome sink

[real shale]

who owns the electricity market?

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[golden nexus]

use smart splitter

[undone citrus]

It's not really work, I have to do more work rather than less. We all split off to separate biomes and are basically playing a solo campaign, but we're going to set up trade routes with trains

[real shale]

1 coupon per 100 MW

[glass pagoda]

When making my storage sorters I use the any unfinded so that I dont have to use a stinky sink

[undone citrus]

In other words instead of helping each other we've claimed territory and threaten one another with nukes for trespassing

Like Russia

We've effectively limited our resources and made our world smaller by confining ourselves to our biomes and unclaimed biomes only. And have implemented land claims and land trading. True pioneers of the past. Ada would be proud

I WISH

[golden nexus]

nope

[sullen gull]

Would also need it so that one couldn't dismantle another pioneers build

[undone citrus]

progression I would still want in a group

But please give us a way to personally spawn

Not a nother hub

[glass pagoda]

Here is a plan, set up fake bases in the swamp to waste time. While ur fellow pioneers are out re route their power, change their smart splitter settings and change all their conveyor belts to random ones just make sure you dont use above mark 3 so it really is a pain

[undone citrus]

But like a rest stop or something that spawns you specifically there and nobody else

[golden nexus]

Some don't want this or would want the option to be compedative. Its quite a common problem in multiplayer where people kinda "don't really do much" in games like these

Its why the ~Tier 5 or so the attrition rate is so high

[undone citrus]

That's another thing

[sullen gull]

Haribo

[undone citrus]

Everything we're doing on our world is separate except space parts

[glass pagoda]

Also set up those jelly things that stop you from falling around ur base to slow enemy's

[undone citrus]

We all take one

[golden nexus]

people found creative ways to loose them

[undone citrus]

Nah, I just loop the cringiest goat sim song on 20 radios and hide them in bushes

[versed cosmos]

hub being 20 iron ore is great

just wish crafting table was the same

[undone citrus]

But yeah we should definitely have a bed option or something

Cause respawning at the hub is a pain for everyone