satisfactory

[shrewd hatch]

just more convenient to buy

1 coupon only

[feral jay]

Use the shop to rush milestones

But otherwise it's a waste

oops what did i just sink

[dense violet]

and they're just as useless now as they would have been then

[feral jay]

I can agree to disagree

[shrewd hatch]

literally never used it

[feral jay]

I blueprinted quasi priority mergers

They ate a lot of room and were unfit for purpose

[shrewd hatch]

I just bought 1000 concrete

[feral jay]

a waste

Concrete is supidly easy to produce

(IMO)

In fact, it's so supidly easy to produce, it's usually my first early game source of sink points

I just make it and chuck it into a sink

[teal geyser]

No limestone around?

[shrewd hatch]

there is

[feral jay]

Yaeh fair point

[teal geyser]

Production too slow for your needs?

[shrewd hatch]

no

The factory of 120 concrete per minute is too far away

[feral jay]

So why buy concrete, of all things?

[teal geyser]

Ah

[shrewd hatch]

convenience

[feral jay]

Oh, lazy

Fair enough

Dimensional Depots will help with that

[shrewd hatch]

too lazy to unlock em

I carry enough materials for an awesome shop

[feral jay]

Strangely, I always go back to base for the shop and the mam

But I can just build them anywhere

[teal geyser]

Points will gradually become harder and harder to obtain, just so you know

[shrewd hatch]

nah I dont think so bud

[feral jay]

You are mathematically and provably wrong

[teal geyser]

What do you mean?

[feral jay]

It's a logarithimc scale

Sink points get more expensive the more you have

[shrewd hatch]

I can just make more coupons with stuff

[teal geyser]

Yes, but it will take longer and longer the more coupons you make

[shrewd hatch]

okay

[dense violet]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

Hmmm designing systems that only work with prio mergers or buying tons of low lvl parts with coupons.

[feral jay]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink#Coupon_cost

lol two links

Cobalt's is the better pic

[real shale]

Anything for the golden nut statue.....

[shrewd hatch]

I have the golden nut statue

[feral jay]

Damn you all, now I'm watching the office

But the Canadian take on it, Corner Gas

[coarse orchid]

Isn't there a way to go into a god mode?

[feral jay]

Yes, cheat

[coarse orchid]

Like real cheats I need to download.

Or do i activate them through the game

[dense violet]

advanced game settings

Highly recommend not using them unless you've gone through the tiers at least once though

[coarse orchid]

I am not doing it for a easy start, I am jus doing it for seeing what creations I can do as a new player.

[lunar python]

I find "creative" mode boring if i dont have a specific goal usually from my main save

[dense violet]

yeah the thing about the milestones is that they are basically a tutorial to teach you things step by step. Just going creative right off the bat building everything is going to wreck your learning curve

[coarse orchid]

yea

[dense violet]

and there's a lot to learn

[coarse orchid]

I have learnt quite a bit within the last 30 hours

[dense violet]

so there's a strong argument that all the tiers are a solid tutorial - the first phase being a pre tutorial

anyway I'm just warning you. I'm not your mum. But I'm someone who has a solid understanding of the learning process and if you want to actually develop good planning and building skills? I don't recommend it.

if you never plan to do big/fancy things and develop good core skills, just want to mess around in a creative mode thing? yeah sure do whatever then

[coarse orchid]

ok

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1452549164201414758 what do we think of the pipes yall?

[teal geyser]

Amazing show

[last tartan]

I saw this concept of pipes in frame foundation on someon'es previous post and thought they looked really cool

[shrewd hatch]

guys!!

look at how much stuff I have stored in my chests!! #screenshots

[teal geyser]

Cool

[real shale]

Now let's see Paul Allen's chests

[shrewd hatch]

why does my meat smell like vomit

I googled it and it said it might be rotten

[hallow pulsar]

i think that means its fresh

[shrewd hatch]

And we bought like 2-3kg of it, damn it

[real shale]

If it smells, looks or tastes bad, it is safer to get rid of it

[shrewd hatch]

so thats why the butcher gave it to us for 40% off

[sick falcon]

genuinely how did the satisfactory devs do it, the spiders are one of the most offputting enemies ive seen in any game ever

[real shale]

It's the sound design for them, it's actually crazy how it invokes fear

And how fast they move too, I have been jumpscared by them more times than I care to admit

[hot mango]

you can turn them in to cats if you want to, in the settings

[ruby cobalt]

IMO that makes it worse

[hot mango]

maybe yeah

[sick falcon]

them being able to chase you to the ends of the earth doesnt help either

[real shale]

Have you seen the cave with like 4 of the big ones at the end yet?

Legit I remember the first time coming across that and going...yeah no I'm out

At least the other wildlife attacks them

[sick falcon]

does this work as an output buffer as well?

[dense violet]

yes but pump in reverse

[pine tulip]

I love accidentally finding a dup glitch

so yummy

[dense violet]

just cheat normally, geez

[pine tulip]

nope

normal survival

[ivory condor]

just dont loop to many of the sloops, many temples burned

[pine tulip]

what?

[real shale]

Offer your blood to the alter and compose a blood song

[pine tulip]

oh

[real shale]

Consume.

[vivid eagle]

guyz may someone gift me a dollar on steam so i can get astroneer

[hot mango]

morning pioneers

[real shale]

Mornin

[dense violet]

evening

[shrewd hatch]

real men dont sleep

[hot mango]

im not real then 😆

at one stage my extreme fatigue was so bad i was only awake for 4 out of every 24 hours

in 2, 2 hour windows per day

i lost weight, muscle, became dehydrated and nearly died

[mortal ginkgo]

too much information mentioned above imho

Daily Reminder:

• Cast Screws is a good recipe.
• Pipes are wonky, 95% of the time it's not your fualt.
• Steel Screws is a good recipe.
• Impure Limestone Nodes are important.

[forest flicker]

hey boys usually how long it takes for a developer to see a bug report / request for fix on the SatisfactoryQA website?

[mortal ginkgo]

There are some bugs that been there for a long time. Seeing them and fixing them are different things I am afraid. It depends on the severity of it too I guess.

I mean, there is a 1.1 patch bug that makes some trucks stop randomly after loading a save but its still yet to be fixed.

[sudden flint]

important for what?

[real shale]

and as for right now CSS are on vacation for the most part so not much will be seen right now

[mortal ginkgo]

ur mom LOL GOT'EM GOOD BROTHERMAN KEK

[mortal ginkgo]

eh, they are back for a while and working on 1.2.

though I guess its Christmas so you got a point too I guess.

[sterile blade]

• Sushi is bestest

[forest flicker]

well this one seems like something that happens consistently when your megabase becomes too big - and it makes multiplayer kinda pointless

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now you DIRECTLY go to jail. No questions, no answers.

[real shale]

okay, man i've seen the light of the blueprint designer and am ashamed for not using it sooner

[forest flicker]

also... I believe if a dev join our game and can reproduce the bug they can easily fix it their side

(or at least figure out why it happens - easily fix depends on the cause)

[mortal ginkgo]

I think "megafactory" stuff always been buggy (or have major performance issues) and multiplayer has always been wonky (though they are working on some multiplayer stuff as they claimed before)

[forest flicker]

it's kind of sad that we build so much stuff and we cannot keep playing anymore - also there's no point into starting a new game either cause we would end up in that situation anyway

[mortal ginkgo]

Dont quote me on that but I believe their main focus right now is 1.2 update and console issues (and some multiplayer server stuff)

[forest flicker]

I mean I could keep playing solo, as the host, but that's a bummer

[real shale]

"Dont quote me on that but I believe their main focus right now is 1.2 update and console issues (and some multiplayer server stuff)" get quoted

[mortal ginkgo]

I am unsure if what you have is fixable. This game is kinda about having proper fps since the entire game is about timers. A low fps on one player can easily cause desync etc.

That even happens with Factorio albeit it has it easier for being 2D etc.

[sterile blade]

So rebel, such a evil

[mortal ginkgo]

He is fighting aganst the S Y S T E M

[real shale]

escaping the matrix

[forest flicker]

The crash is related to arrays... Something getting too big or with wrong array, which seems to indicate a bug that should be fixable?! I think

[mortal ginkgo]

Might be "out of object limit" error. Search for "increasing object limit Satisfactory" and see if increasing helps your cause.

PS: It can make your game more unstable etc but some people reported to be in better condition

[quiet lodge]

is the game running well on PS5? it is now more than double the price on steam (on my region), so i'm planning if i get on steam or PS5

[sterile blade]

Price should be the same everywhere, no matter the platform you play on...
Are you getting scammed?

[forest flicker]

The error is different, I linked it here: https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1452586508581077128

Wait let me grab the link directly:
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/694747af86f2825e75072d19

[mortal ginkgo]

Oh my sweet summer child.

[quiet lodge]

steam have regional prices.
one dollar costs for me to 2 Brazilian Reais.
on PSN prices aren't equalized, so 1 dollar costs 5 BRL

[sudden flint]

You fail to justify your own existence.

[forest flicker]

Thank you for your interest btw! Very appreciated! 🤟

[sterile blade]

I don't see what's stopping you then... Unless you have a preference for console gaming, what's there to hesitate over the cheaper PC version?

[mortal ginkgo]

BRAZIL MENTIONED ZOMG

[quiet lodge]

i prefer playing on PS5.
My PC rn is cheap and i avoid playing, (the time i need to play i'll do an upgrade before)

[sterile blade]

Well, sounds like a very personal decision then ^^

[quiet lodge]

does anyone ever had a megabase on PS5? how is the lag?

[sterile blade]

BTW, game is fine on console, but it's definetly not as good as on PC (the degree is arguable ofc). Dunno about performance, but at the very least the commands are somewhat limited

[hot mango]

reality is scary for sure, sorry if it upsets you

[mortal ginkgo]

Np. So from what I check and my silly unreal dev experience, my assumption is low fps near megabase causing packet-loss which causes data-desync and when Unreal can't sync up, it crashes.

This isn't really solvable unless devs truly go out of their way to fix the performance issue of a "megafactory in one location". Basically you and your buddy should be up 60+fps constantly and even a state of the art game pc can't handle that in this game.

Again, this is my guess but this game's major flaw always been "late game performance". Especially for min maxxers.

Ofc it doesn't hurt to let devs know but maybe one day.

[sterile blade]

Probably best to ask in #satisfactory-consoles. That's probably where the few(?) who managed to already build a megabase on console are ^^

[mortal ginkgo]

had enough scary times in army brotherman, its not about me but being #off-topic-general

[quiet lodge]

how long has this chat been here lol.
i didn't see

[mortal ginkgo]

its a new pop up

[sterile blade]

A couple weeks after console launch I think

[forest flicker]

Kinda sad, makes multiplayer + mega base not viable

I don't think PC specs matters here tho'?

I feel like the bottleneck is the network

[mortal ginkgo]

bad fps = bad update time = packet loss = dysnc = cant sync = crash

again I am just guessing, if devs fix it, more power to you

[forest flicker]

The mega base has 23 floors, 26x24, and we only got to phase 3

[hot mango]

we were talking about sleep, not so off topic but i get what you mean

[mortal ginkgo]

I can only play singleplayer because I waste too much time on deco

my buddies would be at phase 5 while I would be in phase 2 decorating the coal plant

[ivory condor]

Well problem with that is the dev's have done alot of optimization already, so fixing performance issues of "megafactory in one location", thats a tough problem. This really boils down to optimization and the game has alot done on that front already, is it possible to optimize the game even more, maybe, but likely far easier said than done and you would have to look at one areas are actually possible to optimize even more.

In short the devs have done alot of optimization work already, its hard to say how much more performance can be pulled out of the unreal engine at this point, thats a tough dev question for sure either way though.

[mortal ginkgo]

... I guess.

[real shale]

okay, so i guess my drone port is just sending my AI limiters into the void huh

[mortal ginkgo]

you didnt limit them enough kek

[real shale]

im actually baffled at whats going on lmao

they arent even backlogging on the conveyor belt either they are just.... vanishing

[ivory condor]

Well on the plus side least the game isn't poorly optimized, otherwise fps issues would be much worse

[real shale]

i've even reloaded and its still just...Consuming them

oh i see, the drone itself has its own inventory lol

listen, it didnt say it was transfering anything on the drone port lol

[lost rapids]

Good morning

[versed helm]

hi, is there an alternative to mod micro manage for 1.0?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @sterile blade

[zealous urchin]

just consuming

[forest flicker]

For some stuff having a "vanisher" building would be great! You might be onto something

[real shale]

there is one, its the awesome sink

[modern remnant]

we need fluid sink

gib gib gib

[real shale]

package then sink

[modern remnant]

no 😠

[amber tangle]

do i want a alt recipe for wet concrete or caterium wire

or rescan

[modern remnant]

im praying for you

[amber tangle]

stop praying and help a new man out

[modern remnant]

ohhh i read that wrong mb

hmmm, I'd say keep it

just leave it there

scan next one

[amber tangle]

alright will do

[hot mango]

you can, well used to be able to rerun the hard drive by turning off auto save, save the game before you research the hard drive, if you dont like the outcome just reload the game and run it again

[bold heron]

hmm so 3 weeks vaccation.
do i start a new save now or do i wait for 1.2 ?

[silver seal]

Does anyone know of any mod maps that will show locations of mercer spheres, somersloops, hard drives etc. Can be either the full map or minimap

[modern remnant]

maybe this can help
||https://satisfactory-calculator.com/ ||

Not really a mod but shows you all the locations, just toggle it

[real shale]

i am going insane with the amount of refineries i am having to build

[modern remnant]

how many?

[real shale]

i had 64 yesterday and now i've got another 34 today and probably more tomorrow as well lol

[modern remnant]

rookie numbers, you must be new

[real shale]

could have doubled it but cant right now

was making a 3600/min quickwire factory from a pure caterium and copper node, since i dont have mk3 miners and mk6 belts yet i cant make that figure 7200 yet unfortunately

[modern remnant]

ahhh i see

I mean for the beginning thats fine

check screenshots

[real shale]

looking to get 48 control rods/min automated

[hot mango]

i completed this game using just 8 refineries

[real shale]

supercomputer and RCU automation are definitely a step up from anything else i've had to do so far

[modern remnant]

if your standards are that low, nice to hear that

[modern remnant]

thats true, but keep automating, dont get lazy, thats something I have to fight xd

[hot mango]

low... makes no sense to shame people, i only built what i needed to complete the game, not for boasting rights

[real shale]

oh no the reason why i havent made much progress is because im not being lazy, i've being doing a complete logistics rework prior

[modern remnant]

huh? Sorry if it came along the wrong way, what I meant is that I couldnt do that xd

[modern remnant]

hell yeah, good job

[hot mango]

sure, you have to understand everyone plays differently, this game im on is a game i setup so i could have evrything, or close to that, all in the same spot

[real shale]

feels like the second i got the pure recipes its been "guess we doing refineries for everything now" kinda vibe

[modern remnant]

Yeah I understand that, just said it a bit weird ig

[modern remnant]

yeah, its either that or foundries

[real shale]

i will soon turn this planet into a ecumenopolis

[modern remnant]

ada will be proud

[hot mango]

if you look in screeen shots i just posted my base pic

[modern remnant]

oh god

[hot mango]

all in the one place

[modern remnant]

yeah no, I could never

[hot mango]

😸

[modern remnant]

for me everything has to be 90° ordered and perfect

[hot mango]

yup, i like it like this, i dont have to keep travelling around

[modern remnant]

fair enough i guess

[hot mango]

do you like my double wall of belts 😺

[leaden turret]

which has more excessive amount of belts:

• a hot topic store
• the average satisfactory player's save

[zenith spire]

What’s a hot topic store

[zenith spire]

Real. I just started the game, I’m on phase one rn & I have everything automated but it’s a shit show 😂 my factory be lookin like a bowl of spaghetti

[modern remnant]

I mean its the first world

Totally fine there

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-media message

[modern remnant]

Defo nr.2

[leaden turret]

you sure? #off-topic-media message

[modern remnant]

Yupp

My screw giga mega factory alone has more

[leaden turret]

giga mega factory implies the amount of belts is appropriate, not excessive

[zenith spire]

Final boss of belts

[leaden turret]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TooManyBelts

[zenith spire]

💀💀💀

[amber tangle]

idk bro my adhd isnt liking this game i got to much spaget going on

[leaden turret]

@true mulch speaking of tv tropes, Satisfactory has an entry: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Satisfactory

[leaden turret]

embrace the spaghett https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaghett

[compact flicker]

I wanna Expand The Factory™ but I am oh so burnt out

[leaden turret]

Cats Are Mean: Turning on the Arachnophobia mode in the game options causes the previously giant spiders to have corrupted cat heads, invoking this trope as they still try to kill you regardless.

[amber tangle]

cursed

[compact flicker]

i think i just got the worst advent calendar reward ever

[sterile blade]

A kiss from a Bean?

[compact flicker]

200 screws >:

[leaden turret]

🎶
Baby, I compare you to a kiss from a bean on the face
Ooh, the more I get of you, stranger it feels, yeah
And now that your bean is in bloom
A light hits the gloom on the face
🎶

[compact flicker]

I used the nuke nobelisk I got from yesterday's to blow up a bean

Mk3 bp is pbase 5 right? Or is it 4

[real shale]

Phase 5

[compact flicker]

Tx

I really had a whole assembler and miner turned off and didn't realize for like 10 hours

No wonder my factory was at like 50% efficiency

[wanton blaze]

Imagine it being on xmas instead

[compact flicker]

Will be kinda surprised if that isnt one of the garunteed reward days

Are refineries allergic to nice numbers?

(Pure iron and turbofuel are the culprits I currently have in mind)

[true mulch]

Dunno what that site is

Ohhhh cool

[leaden turret]

think wikipedia about pop culture, only not up it's own arse like wikipedia is

[hot panther]

what happens if i take a ticket from the sink and put it in te sink again?

[peak wasp]

as a tier 2-3 player should i be using 2m foundation or 1m, im scared of world grid and dont wanna affect myself in future, i dont have knowledge about all these variants

i like keep everything minimal however

[dense violet]

litearlly any foundation you want.

World grid is totally optional and honestly a design trap

[real shale]

Thank you, I thought I was the only one that thought pure iron gave some really ugly figures

[peak wasp]

it wont cause me issues right? people talk about 2m being better cuz 1m is worse someway on internet

[dense violet]

I have no idea what could be 'worse' about them?

what are you trying to do?

[real shale]

At least pure copper and caterium were nice and round but pure iron is just ...why.... Why is there an odd decimal number there

[dense violet]

change the unit of time you're measuring it in, and the decimals disapear. They are only in your mind

[dense violet]

and clocking makes that totally meaningless

[real shale]

17.148 refineries to do 600 iron.... The refinery at 14.8% isn't real it can't hurt you

[peak wasp]

[zealous urchin]

its literaly up to you how u wanna design stuff

[peak wasp]

okay alright

[real shale]

Oh I know but I find it nice to see the fully scale of a factory without it sometimes, it makes the place feel more.....vibrant and beautiful just polluting the world

[dense violet]

I have no idea how clocking makes a difference with that

[real shale]

Well you have less machines then, I like seeing more machines

[compact flicker]

Copper, caterium, and concrete are all perfectly behaved

Iron is.. Not that

[dense violet]

you can under clock and have more and ignore decimals too

[compact flicker]

And ofc I could settle with .005 more than the number I want, but its just.. Ugly

[real shale]

That is true as well I guess

[dense violet]

people who think decimals have any meaning in a game where you can set your machiens to whatever are wild

[real shale]

Time to clock everything at 0.0001%

[dense violet]

min is 1% iirc

[real shale]

Well, 1% then, clock it all there and watch your world turn into the factory itself

[compact flicker]

I swear some of these megafactory builds have to have everything underclocked to that extent to get as big as they do :p

[real shale]

"rookie numbers" as they hide their clock speeds

[mortal ginkgo]

considering I am watching Kibitz constantly, his megafactory is not only large but everything clocked to 250% max, and he still has outside buildings for both nuclear and pasta

[compact flicker]

I should make a train for every raw resource and ship it all to the desert before building a factory that does everything there

[dense violet]

not really, terrain is actually pretty small, it's easy to build an entirely over clocked large system to rival them

[dense violet]

this was jsut plastic rubber and aluminium ingots https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1357870180679815258/big_r_2.png?ex=694a86e7&is=69493567&hm=e64872713a5f2402773b0cde2cbdf5428cebde6a3b3e4cd2d3c777ebfffa0870&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=930&height=557

all overclocked to near 250%

[compact flicker]

Quite large

[potent beacon]

question, how do splitters work if there is no overload, like i connect splitter on farm with mk3 belts, is it gonna split evenly into 2 belts if both belts are almost empty?

[mortal ginkgo]

yes

[potent beacon]

what can be causing small dips sometimes in my coal power plant? I Have it balanced, 1 pump per 3 generators basically, production graph is perfectly straight it just dips sometimes a little bit by like 200 MW

[reef basin]

you don't need pumps if you build it flat

[potent beacon]

I wanted to say water extractors sorry, I dont have any pumps and its flat also

[reef basin]

one extractor can't feed 3 gens

[potent beacon]

well one per 2.66

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 thread and post images of your setup

[compact flicker]

Anyone bother with pure iron? It doesn't seem worth it with the abundance of iron and the several x higher power cost

[white dawn]

Sure, I often do

Overkill for many situations, sure, but if you want to limit how many iron nodes you're tapping, it's nice

And refineries are easy enough to blueprint

[dense violet]

generally iron alloy if anything. Screw refineries

[white dawn]

The alloys are quite nice, yeah

[mortal ginkgo]

saves good space, saves the amount you need to transfer because you need less, etc

[zealous urchin]

my autism tells me to pure iron
my adhd tells me to watch youtube

cant win

[next viper]

my biofuel generators are not charging the power reserve, and every time I connect them to my oil/fuel production network the fuse blows.... how can I get my power back on (had a blackout)?

[compact flicker]

Biofuel wont charge power storages

[next viper]

but why is my fuse blowing if the biofuel generation is more than what the network should consume?

[compact flicker]

Connect several of them together, then connect the biofuel grid to the oil grid once they produce enough to run it until the oil can get back online

[next viper]

that's what I tried

it still blows the fuse

[compact flicker]

Gotta be human error because that shouldn't happen, are all the biofuel generators filled with fuel?

[next viper]

I think it's because the biofuel generators aren't actually burning fuel fast enough before connecting the grids

yes, they all have fuel

power capacity is 330 MW, and my fuel network requires less than 300

[compact flicker]

Do you have the hoverpack?

[next viper]

yes

[compact flicker]

There's your problem

[next viper]

jetpack

[compact flicker]

2 seperate items

[next viper]

oh

no, just a jetpack

[compact flicker]

Maybe take a few screenshots for a #1038092680493801533 thread? I cant think of why a 330 power generation would blow on a 300 consumption grid

[next viper]

lol, it worked just now.... wonder why it didn't before

[compact flicker]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Note to self, trains don't like 100% efficiency

[white dawn]

What do you mean by "efficiency" there? They're capable of delivering a totally-reliable throughput at whatever rate you want, so long as they're set up properly

[oblique pagoda]

is there a mod to build underground?

i mean ik we dont need a mod for that but to make a hole in the ground?

[compact flicker]

I have 3 manifolds that need my max belt throughput, but the paused belts when loading/unloading makes them not work as intended :p

I know it's fixable, just a kinda annoying temporary issue

[white dawn]

Might be best to just browse the mods database, or ask in the mods discord... I know that there's a mod designed to let you remove otherwise-unremovable rocks + plants, which can end up leaving "holes" in the map. That one could maybe be used for any other random bit of scenery (thus creating a "hole")

[oblique pagoda]

ah thanks, i asked cus im not home and i was curious, thanks again

[white dawn]

The usual setup is to use an ISC buffer ahead of the freight platforms on both ends, with both belts hookoed into the platform. The dual belts + ISC allows it to buffer properly

[compact flicker]

Or I messed up somewhere because one of my loading stations is completely full

-w-

Human error is the biggest efficiency killer in this game lol

[white dawn]

You can't get 2x your max belt speed throughput out of a single car / freight platform, but 1x max belt speed is entirely doable (depending on stack size and round-trip time, of course). :)

[reef basin]

wdym?

[compact flicker]

see above :3

Its all human error on my part lol

[reef basin]

discord didn't scroll 🤔

[compact flicker]

Mk3 miners will fix all of my problems

Oh my cars are full before getting here

Thats.. Annoying

aaaa im running out of space for freight stations

[reef basin]

usually the simplest method is "one belt per platform"

[silent heron]

I've noticed the coated concrete foundations have a permanent local reflection of the world around them, are these more proformance intense than regular foundations?

[white dawn]

Presumably there's more processing going on for that, yeah, though whether it's something that'll actually affect your performance is probably down to various factors. I know I've never noticed any performance problems which seemed to be related to those, but I wouldn't want to say too definitively. :)

[hot panther]

from where do i get plastic

[reef basin]

from recipe that makes plastic 😛 check codex to see

[hot panther]

it isnt unlocked yet thats why i am asked

[reef basin]

well, then progress through the game until you unlock it 😉

[hot panther]

well what tier is it

[reef basin]

(or check wiki if you want game spoilers)

[hot panther]

can you sent link?

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @reef basin

[steep canopy]

any reason for why the game doesn't save my friend's game? I've been playing on it for over a month and suddenly the game needs me to input his session ID every single time

[pastel crystal]

Heyy just started playing the gane this weekend and wanted to know if someone is up to play some coop. Just a chill playthrough, im open to chay if you are too. Just hit me up

[south sinew]

#1201555265942724758

[lean tiger]

Does anyone know how to stop the trains from glowing - I can briefly by interacting with every carriage but it just starts again whenever it reaches a station.

[ornate saffron]

This happens to me sometime. I save then load to fix

[pastel crystal]

Sorry, didn’t see it earlier

[lean tiger]

Ok thanks

[white dawn]

@quick barn (re: #screenshots message ) - Yeah, a couple of odd decisions in there, though I mostly enjoyed the build. Are the bottom "thin" blue pipes at the bottom awfully loose for you too? I was thinking I was gonna have to glue those in place (gasp); they've got a strong tendency to fall off for me

[leaden sphinx]

Hi

Im curious how long it took you guys to finish the game just casually playing through keeping things organized like how many hours

[reef basin]

I'd say you'll get various answers ranging from ~50 hours to ~1000+

[zealous urchin]

speedrun is 8 hrs

finishing may never happen

[heavy pine]

I want to say my last one took about 300 hours.

[shy mulch]

As greeny said, the range is so wildly huge depending on your play style. But I'd say for an average skill player who's keeping it casual, not stressing or trying to rush, but is trying to actively finish. About 200-300 hours is probably quite common

[zealous urchin]

also finishing the game is not the goal

[silent heron]

Were would I post about bugs or strange textures?

[shy mulch]

For many people you're right. For some people it is

[heavy pine]

I'd consider "finishing the game" to mean "launching the final project construction phase", everything after that is gravy.

[dawn mist]

So, um, I got a small problem.

I disassembled a bunch of stuff and it apparently filled up my inventory. Where is this stuff going?

[quaint ibex]

guys do i process the bauxide and carry it or carry the ore?

[shy mulch]

I consider that "finishing the tutorial" 😛

[shy mulch]

whichever way you prefer, I choose to process most of it near where the nodes are, but that's not for everyone, really depends how the rest of your infrastructure is set up

[heavy pine]

There should be a crate at or near where you were standing when you dismantled everything. It's probably on your map/compass.

[dawn mist]

No mirro. 😢

[cyan spruce]

Question, I want to make a factory that makes all my consumables like gas mask filters, ammo, and such, but I also would like to start using blueprints. Does anyone have info on like the process of designing those scalable blueprints?

[reef basin]

basically "if you build something often, make it a blueprint"

[supple drift]

We need to give the pioneer a ficsit brand forklift

I need my ficsit brand forklift certification

[mortal ginkgo]

you are a friggin doggo. your only purpose is eating berries and bringing awesome sink goods to sink

[supple drift]

I'm just waiting for Ficsit to recognize my ability to drive a forklift

[mortal ginkgo]

I kek at your demand

[real shale]

I bet you don't even have the ficsit verified checkmark yet

[supple drift]

I can do more than grab stuff 😔

[real shale]

Not a truly verified pioneer

[supple drift]

No hands to put tickets in the awesome shop terminal

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah and I can provide more than 30 limestone per minute.

heh.

[real shale]

(insert family guy horse at a bar video)

"hooves no thumbs, can't pick up the glass"

[supple drift]

Yeah well I just gave my pioneer this glowing canister and they're so happy they ran as fast as they could out of the room

[mortal ginkgo]

I am defeated, well done.

[supple drift]

Putting nuclear waste in the Ficsit forklift and driving it off the edge of the map

[real shale]

My doggo gave me the beacon.....

Even in satisfactory I wasn't safe

[reef basin]

beacon?

[compact flicker]

Doggos are cool :3

[real shale]

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

[supple drift]

I think I may be playing the wrong game but I have crafted my netherite sword and will now be fighting the ender dragon

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz

[reef basin]

beacons were removed from the game a while back

[compact flicker]

Why don't we fill trains with nuclear waste and launch them off the map?

[latent meadow]

not a bad idea

[hard ivy]

because they don't actually get launched off the map

[latent meadow]

🙁

hopes crushed of a new way to get ride of waste

[reef basin]

there's already a way to get rid of waste tho

[supple drift]

Hey and throwing anything of the edge of the map makes lag, by the way
I was kidding

[latent meadow]

ik

feels like the dev knows ever way of trying to get rid e of it beside there way was like nope

[real shale]

Well this one sent me in a journey to Mount Kilkreath, and it all spiralled from there (this was all a Skyrim reference)

[compact flicker]

2,000 indusrial crates equally spaced around under the map so everywhere is equally radioactive

[latent meadow]

so you make a complete radioactive world

[supple drift]

New line of code: vehicles with nuclear waste in them fly over the void instead of falling into it 😔

No escape from the waste

[latent meadow]

lol

shh dont help the dev out more lol

[real shale]

[compact flicker]

[reef basin]

if you throw vehicle into void, they stay there
so you're not getting rid of waste that way anyway

[supple drift]

Lizard doggos now bring you the contextually least optimal resource

[sudden flint]

:(

[supple drift]

Tier 1? Here's some nuclear waste
Tier 9? Here's like... A singular chunk of iron ore

[sudden flint]

You need the death of three animals to barely be worth using.

[supple drift]

Lizard doggos now consume items and overflow boxes of materials left on the floor for too long

[hard ivy]

they no longer give you uranium waste

[supple drift]

ADA now acts as the voice in your head

[supple drift]

NOOOOOOO

[hard ivy]

now you get nukes instead

[supple drift]

That was my favorite thing it was so funny

[sudden flint]

"Nucweah Wahed!"

[supple drift]

Lizard doggos made more confusing

[sudden flint]

"whatever you say, sweetie :3"

[supple drift]

Lizard doggos now watch you eerily but only whenever you look away

[sudden flint]

that's a strange way to admit to that, tbh...

[supple drift]

ADA is now sentient but only reveals that when you find her in her chamber in the center of the aper- Wait no that's Portal.

[tame bobcat]

phase 2 automation is gonna be the death of me the hell is phase 3 like then 😭

[hard ivy]

wait till you hear about phase 4 🙃

[sudden flint]

I'm pretty sure ADA is already sentient before the game even starts.

There's the one line about the exact right bit flipped at the exact wrong time

[supple drift]

"the right man in the wrong place can make all the difference"

[supple drift]

Also when???

[sudden flint]

"FICSIT always did underestimate the power of a single cosmic ray flipping the right bit at the wrong time"
-ADA, after dismantling a drop pod

[supple drift]

Ooohhhh yeah no that was talking about the reason the pod crashed

I don't think it meant anything about ADA

[sudden flint]

no, I know

I think ADA's sly. She throws so much shade, a little more internal subtlety would not suprise me

[mortal ginkgo]

BROWWWWWW 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Bro hit me noscope and then corpsecamped me for a week

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[ruby merlin]

did they ever say if there was an ETA on consoles and pc being able to play together

[mortal ginkgo]

Not gonna happen for a few reasons and my mom

[hard ivy]

there is no ETA, and it's entirely possible that it's "never"

[reef basin]

at the moment it's "not planned"

my guess it's mostly because console and PC versions are different

[tame bobcat]

lmao one of my friends in australia has satisfactory is this true?? 😭

[clear tartan]

whats a good setup for a starter

like all materials

[reef basin]

that's like most generic question ever

[leaden turret]

• a plan
• sanity optional

[reef basin]

honestly just plan one product at a time and build it

[clear tartan]

true

just want it effiecient really

[reef basin]

then make a plan so that machines don't stop

then it will be efficient

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=l81NeP5eToW8WIicJ1V1

repeat for all other materials, 1 or 2 or 3 types at a time, done

[clear tartan]

ok

[fluid sapphire]

how far does "all" materials go for you

[hard ivy]

That is basically a question "how do I complete 80% of the game"

Because 80% of the game for me is automating materials to use for building

[sour ledge]

y'know, i dont know that i've actually thought about it but:

Does rail (and stations) have a power cost just on build, even if trains aren't running? I've been massively expanding my rail network without actually adding any trains yet and i swear my power usage is going up...

[clear tartan]

true

[fluid sapphire]

stations do, i think? rail itself does not

its just like wire

[sour ledge]

thank god. maybe its just my old factory finally finishing its manifold... ill admit the manifold was expected to take several hours... hrm. well, i guess the solution is to build so much power i don't need to think about it

[sudden flint]

lmao

[fluid sapphire]

for sure, if there is anything thats worth overbuilding, its power for sure

[sour ledge]

yeah, i started expanding (and well, frankly building) my rail network because of a power shortage, and it pushed me from "almost dangerous" to "Batteries very occasionally drain then refill" building the rail so i was here like "is... is my rail doing it?"

[fluid sapphire]

build factories with internal batteries, makes power accounting super easy

[sour ledge]

... since the additional drain was from train stations without attached factories, wouldn't that not have helped me account for power in this case lol

[fluid sapphire]

if you kow how much power each of your factories uses, you know your overhead

[zealous urchin]

🧙‍♂️

[primal obsidian]

checked my steam replay and apparently the only game ive played in december is satisfactory

not even <1% thing just 100% satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

stations always have a power cost. Freight/fluids have a power cost when docking from what I remember

and then engines have a power cost when driving

[fluid sapphire]

i do remember stations being a bit funky power wise

[fluid sapphire]

as long as you dont burn out

i went absolutely ham in july and august, had to take a break

[primal obsidian]

uh

[wicked nacelle]

freight platform are 50 when docking and normal idle building 0.1 otherwise

[primal obsidian]

im a little burnt out

[wicked nacelle]

A Train Station always consumes 50 MW regardless if a Train is docking or not.

[fluid sapphire]

its nice to play some other games for a change, i actually finished a record amount of games compared to any of the last 5 years heh

like 15 games i think

[primal obsidian]

after cramming 200hrs of playtime into 2 months

like 3hrs a day

very bad for my health

i think

[fluid sapphire]

not me doing 6-8 hour days kek

[sudden flint]

okay. Is it worth making an all-iron motor line for my first motors, or should I just use steel rotors and use the default recipies for the rest?

[fluid sapphire]

my game of the year title has been stolen from satisfactory, by prey

[fluid sapphire]

big fan personally

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=pKV74zRSKPthXJse5fjb

since iron is so abundant i dont see any reason not to do this

[primal obsidian]

i love making things only using 1 resource

[sour ledge]

spiral train ramps are neat and all, but it'd be cool to get an actual train elevator one day. Huge, unwieldly things that just straight up take the train vertical. im sure with the animations and all it'd be terribly inefficient vs ramps... but damn that'd be cool lookin'

[sudden flint]

My one gripe is that unless I use an alt recipie for Iron Ingots, I can't make enough iron ore from one miner to make them. Mark 3 belt throughput

[leaden turret]

-# insert capitalism joke with a punchline involving resource being "the labour of others"

[sudden flint]

-# insert unsolicited opinion that while the system is flawed it is not the singular problem and shouldn't be treated as such

[primal obsidian]

im on a multiplayer server i love using the labour of others to do boring stuff

[leaden turret]

-# insert joke about the problems with the human condition being "other humans"

[sudden flint]

-# insert unsolicited opinion that humans are social creatures and a worldview wherin they are inherently evil/selfish/bad for one another is a worldiew that very easily leads to destructive nihlism

[leaden turret]

-# humans don't have to be evil/selfish/bad to be a problem

-# 🌈 incompetence without malice is not bad, is just incompetence 🌈

[sudden flint]

-# equally we can be a solution as well, we're just kinda a mess collectively

[wicked nacelle]

while that would be interesting, I think having a dropoff/lift bus/pickup system between two trains can be pretty cool too

[leaden turret]

FICSIT does not waste
-# time negotiating collective bargaining agreements

[sudden flint]

-# yay humanwide worldviews in aserver about a game about making number go up by making more part more fast

[white dawn]

ʷʰʸ ᵃʳᵉ ʷᵉ ʷʰᶦˢᵖᵉʳᶦⁿᵍ? ᶦˢ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ ᵃ ᵍʰᵒˢᵗ???

[leaden turret]

-# automation games are skinner boxes

[leaden turret]

-# ᵛᵃᵍᵘᵉˡʸ ᵒⁿ⁻ᵗᵒᵖᶦᶜ ᵇᵘᵗ ⁿᵒᵗ ᵒⁿ⁻ᵗᵒᵖᶦᶜ ᵉⁿᵒᵘᵍʰ ᵗᵒ ʷᵃⁿᵗ ᵗᵒ ᵈᶦˢᵗʳᵃᶜᵗ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜᵒⁿᵛᵉʳˢᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿ

[sour ledge]

... at risk of interrupting... how are y'all making your text tinier and tinier and faded out!?

[sudden flint]

-# we started it as a bit but now I think we might betrying to avoid clogging the chat with big letters. also maybe avoiding the mods, this is a little bit more "political" than some servers enjoy

. -#[space]whatever text you want here

[leaden turret]

🇧 🇮 🇬 🇱 🇪 🇹 🇹 🇪 🇷 🇸

[sudden flint]

AAAH!

[leaden turret]

tiny text generator + -# tiny text here

[sour ledge]

-# is tis gonna be tiny

oh my god its tiny. aw yeah, mid 30's and my discord skills have leveled up and i have a new way to annoy the nephews

[leaden turret]

-# ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵃⁿ'ᵗ ʳᵉᵃᵈ ᵗʰᶦˢ ʸᵒᵘ ⁿᵉᵉᵈ ᵗᵒ ᵐᵃᵏᵉ ᵃⁿ ᵃᵖᵖᵒᶦⁿᵗᵐᵉⁿᵗ ʷᶦᵗʰ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵒᵖᵗᵒᵐᵉᵗʳᶦˢᵗ. ᶠᴵᶜˢᴵᵀ ᵈᵒᵉˢ ⁿᵒᵗ ʷᵃˢᵗᵉ ⁽ᵗᶦᵐᵉ ᵒⁿ ᵐᵉᵈᶦᶜᵃˡ ᵇᵉⁿᵉᶠᶦᵗˢ⁾

[white dawn]

-# (cc: @leaden turret) Ah thanks, I was just looking that up. :D

[leaden turret]

-# ₙₚ

[sour ledge]

-# okay but you got it even tinier. sing me a learning song man you're operating on deeper layers

[sick falcon]

is there a way to place vertical pipe junctions freestanding

[leaden turret]

-# ˙˙ ᐟ ⁻˙⁻˙ ⁻⁻⁻ ˙˙⁻ ˙⁻˙˙ ⁻˙˙ ᐟ ⁻⁻˙ ⁻⁻⁻ ᐟ ˙˙˙ ⁻⁻ ˙⁻ ˙⁻˙˙ ˙⁻˙˙ ˙ ˙⁻˙ ᐟ ⁻˙˙˙ ˙˙⁻ ⁻ ᐟ ⁻˙⁻⁻ ⁻⁻⁻ ˙˙⁻ ˙⁻⁻⁻⁻˙ ⁻˙˙ ᐟ ⁻˙ ˙ ˙ ⁻˙˙ ᐟ ⁻ ⁻⁻⁻ ᐟ ˙⁻˙ ˙ ˙⁻ ⁻˙˙ ᐟ ⁻⁻ ⁻⁻⁻ ˙⁻˙ ˙˙˙ ˙ ᐟ ⁻˙⁻˙ ⁻⁻⁻ ⁻˙˙ ˙

[leaden turret]

place them on a wall then remove the wall

or place them on a freestanding pipe

[sudden flint]

-# look up a discord font translator, take the small letters, and put them in the small letter formatting on here, and you get extra small letters I'm pretty sure

[sour ledge]

you motherfluffer i put way more effort into translating that then the payoff was worth! lmao

[leaden turret]

-# ||made you look||

[robust brook]

What was it

[sour ledge]

he'd tell me but i can't read morse code

to be precise, 'ICOULDGOSMALLERBUTYOU'DNEEDTOREADMORSECODE'

[nova oriole]

Hello everyone, could someone tell me briefly how that diluted fuel thing works? I'm trying to make a rocket fuel energy plant

[leaden turret]

slashes indicate spaces

[sour ledge]

300 crude -> 400 heavy oil residue(alt recipe) -> 800 diluted fuel (alt recipe) -> rocket fuel

[nova oriole]

Ah shit I need alternate recipes

[sour ledge]

indeed

[nova oriole]

Are the hard drives recipes random or does each one have a specific recipe?

[sour ledge]

random. BUT recipes you haven't claimed can't show up on a later hard drive. So if you scan one and both results suck, just leave it and at least those two options are removed from the possibility pool

[nova oriole]

Oh that's good to know, I had no idea

[sour ledge]

also you can only get recipes you've unlocked the prereqs for - so you're not gonna get diluted fuel for example if you haven't unlocked blenders. though there's always diluted packaged fuel

[nova oriole]

I need blenders too?💔

NEVERMIND

[hard ivy]

I recommend one of these chains https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=gPD3N1rLpYYZ4lr6tti4
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=IBeChS1PzwWhTE2vqC9f
the amount is up to you ofc

[sour ledge]

well, you can dilute it with packaging/unpacking but that adds another layer to the whole thing. and you need the blender to do rocket fuel either way...

[hard ivy]

bro you need a tier 8 unlock to even get rocket fuel

having blenders is guaranteed at that point

[nova oriole]

Thanks but I'll pass, I tried it the other day and it turned me violent, couldn't understand shit

[nova oriole]

Rocket fuel is unlocked in the MAM though, I assumed I just needed to unlock it

Which ... I still need to do, I just unlocked turbofuel

[hard ivy]

that is technically true. but it needs fluid tanks, which are a tier 8 unlock

[nova oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-sad-spongebob-depressed-spongebob-head-in-hands-spongebob-react-gif-2112710549962906415

...and gifs don't work

[sour ledge]

you can always just start out with diluted packaged fuel if you want something to expand power pre-blender

i mean its not as good as the rocket fuel obviously, but going from 300 crude to 800 fuel still gives you a stupid amount of power generation vs the what, 200 fuel you'd get by default?

[fluid sapphire]

whats wrong with that

[hard ivy]

yeah, HOR + DPF quadruples your fuel output
and with those 300 oil is 10 GW

[sudden flint]

then it stops being all iron

[fluid sapphire]

if you want all iron for the sake of it, sure i guess, but water is basically free so i never count it

[hard ivy]

pure iron ingot

[sudden flint]

I dont have refineries 😭

it's okay I'll get over it eventually

I'm just bitching abt it rn

[fluid sapphire]

if you were looking at the production graph i sent, just divide it by 4 or something

still plenty to get you started

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=KDK7GM3AZirZqYi0Apev

487.5 iron into 6.25 rotors and 7.5 motors, no refineries needed

you can always make more later

[sudden flint]

yea

Come to think of it, theres that 5 normal irons place in the rocky desert...

[gentle lion]

Someone sent me a turbo fuel layout with blenders but I didn't have them yet and.now I can't find it does anyone have one to share? 600 oil per minute should also have enough compacted coal

[hard ivy]

600 oil gets you 20 GW without turbofuel

do you even need turbo?

[gentle lion]

No but I want to do it for myself

[sudden flint]

as in make it to prove that you can?

[gentle lion]

Just as a side quest for myself

Well yeah and to have power I don't need.

[sudden flint]

excess energy never lasts for long lol

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=NsbHz53rBTmmzYLUx8gu

[gentle lion]

I want to try and set it up properly fr the get go

[hard ivy]

RF would be better tho

[gentle lion]

I.guess I could unlock rocket fuel

Don't I need turbo fuel to unlock it?

[fluid sapphire]

a small amount, yes

[hard ivy]

100 packaged TF

[gentle lion]

Setup a small turbo refinery lol

Why do Blenders make the setup seem easier?

[hard ivy]

because DF looks a lot less complicated than DPF

though, if properly set up, DPF isn't actually much more complicated

[reef basin]

though with proper approach DPF is practically equal to DF

[gentle lion]

I have a blueprint with 2 refinerys and 2 packagers all fits in one mk2 blueprint

[deft wagon]

you can get 36 with like 150-300

[hard ivy]

not with just fuel

[deft wagon]

Yeah but using just fuel isnt really efficent

Unless youre mid game without alt recipies

[hard ivy]

it's plenty efficient for most people

most people don't need 100 GW

[gentle lion]

How different is the rocket fuel layout

It's not about need lol

[hard ivy]

#satisfactory message

[gentle lion]

Powah is powah

[reef basin]

depends what "efficient" means to you

[deft wagon]

Its a nice to have

[deft wagon]

How much energy you get using so much resources

[reef basin]

for that fuel is pretty efficient tbh

[hard ivy]

iirc WP-wise fuel is more efficient than TF
or at least comparable

[reef basin]

given that the whole TF/RF/IF line just converts more resources to power

[gentle lion]

Thanks ....I'd have to haul nitrogen a very long way

[hard ivy]

build it near nitrogen then

there's like 2 places that have all the resources nearby

[deft wagon]

Fair enough
I just prefer stretching my pil supply more ig

[gentle lion]

I'll check the map later.

[sick falcon]

wbt the inverse for plastic? is it the same

[deft wagon]

Question: have any of you tried satisfactory on steam deck?
Curious how well it runs

[reef basin]

yes, only you always use residual rubber over residual plastic for most gains per oil

[white dawn]

There's been plenty of reports of it running quite well. Presumably it helps even more than usual to spread out instead of making huge all-in-one-spot factories.

[leaden turret]

CSS are actively trying to get verified status, last I checked

[deft wagon]

Thats good
Wouldn't dream building a mega factory on it lol, youd want the battery to last longer than 20-30 minutes

[deft wagon]

Ill check steam one sec

^ Only thing it says thats an 'issue' is text size

If it can run it 30fps stable im happy

[fluid sapphire]

the last couple of patches have been font size adjustments i think

[deft wagon]

Theyre itching for that verified tick

Ill definitely try it when it eventually comes
incredibly excited

[fluid sapphire]

of course

[sick falcon]

how does that work

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=uSGt3IdjS3s1rjieGBlv

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=48wMvdhiDhxF3U17YLO6

[nova oriole]

Is the "muddy alumina" alternate recipe any good?

[reef basin]

every recipe is "good" in some way

[nova oriole]

I mean yeah most of them, I'm just curious if it's any useful to use 10 bauxite and water instead of 12+18, sounds good for division but I wasn't sure

[fluid sapphire]

it eliminates the silica from aluminum production, trades some efficiency for simplicity

[reef basin]

well all of them are good 😉 whether they are good for your specific case and preferences, we can't answer 😉

[nova oriole]

And silica is used after for another recipe, innit?

I mean combined with aluminum

[fluid sapphire]

"depends" without any extra details is such a non-answer, as usual

[fluid sapphire]

uhh, i dont know what you mean

[nova oriole]

Isn't there a step in aluminum production that uses silica?

[reef basin]

"is it good" without any extra detail is such a non-question, as usual

[fluid sapphire]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=EFdAJvf74fezy9cExGU9

there doesnt need to be

[nova oriole]

I'm just approaching aluminum for the first time, that's why some of my questions might sound weird

[fluid sapphire]

that doesnt even make sense

a question is an answer?

[sour ledge]

jesus christ. thought i'd done a good job of clearing this general area of valuables; spheres, slugs, hard drives, sloops. It's where i started after all, i've come and gone from every direction!

build a radar tower: 38 slugs unclaimed

[nova oriole]

I just see the homepage, I don't know how to use that website

[fluid sapphire]

i think its reasonable to infer that its not a yes or no question, rather they want some analysis

obviously good is subjective

[reef basin]

honestly as always - just try things out and figure out what you want from it yourself. The game doesn't really have "best" or "good", anything is viable depending on your preferences

[fluid sapphire]

it should load a tab for you after you click

[reef basin]

once they ask for it, it'll be provided 🤷

[fluid sapphire]

they did, just not literally

are you a machine?

[reef basin]

no, I'm not assuming things because it often ends up badly

[fluid sapphire]

what could possibly end up badly here lol

[nova oriole]

nah I just see the homepage

[reef basin]

there's enough misinformation already

stop talking for other people, they can ask their own questions, if they want clarification, they'll ask for it

[fluid sapphire]

ok, anyway thats the graph

#screenshots message

by the same token i could tell you to stop giving non-answers, but we both know thats not going to happen

[nova oriole]

that's amazing, I didn't know I could avoid silica, thanks mate, hope I'll find the recipe soon

[reef basin]

it's the best answer you can give with limited info you have.

if they want more detailed answer, they are free to give more detailed question
otherwise it gives them all the basic generic info that people often look for

[shy mulch]

hi everyone, im new and got a couple questions, whats a power slug for, whats the best hard drive, whats the best way to get nuclear power

[fluid sapphire]

no problem, it really simplifies aluminum to a ridiculous degree

[nova oriole]

definitely, I'm sort of starting to have an understanding of the process but I wanna finish automating other stuff before going into it

[white dawn]

Aluminum gives you a ton of choices for production lines, and few of them are "bad." I tend to build my aluminum one bauxite node at a time, depending on what other nodes are nearby, and I end up using a variety of production chains for it throughout the course of a playthrough as a result. (Yes, including Sloppy Alumina, but I definitely don't use it all the time.) Is Sloppy Aluminua "good?" Sure. So are the other options. :)

[reef basin]

you avoid silica, but end up using more bauxite in exchange. Whether that's good or bad for your playstyle depends on you 😉

[golden nexus]

power shared overclock a machine more speed but much more power, theres 100's of reicpies with hard disks, you won't do nuclear until about 200+ hours in on a first play

[fluid sapphire]

if you're not aluminum-maxing, that is, you dont need 12300 aluminum ingots, you are probably fine with just about any chain

[nova oriole]

nah I usually just research a good amount of items for "endgame" and build my factories to match that

so if I see that the usual amount is (to say) 300 ingots, that's what I aim for

sure it takes me a bit longer but I have fun while planning these huge cement blocks

[reef basin]

usually that's just one or two machines worth of production

[shy mulch]

sorry to waste your time, i was being facetious

[past cargo]

Heyo, the hover thingy isn't meant to be quicker backwards than it is forwards. Right?

[fluid sapphire]

Fair enough, I over produce some stuff, aluminum being a prime example

If I need it for anything, it already exists

[golden nexus]

Lots of people just do a "consume the node" approach

and if you don't have enough consume another node

[fluid sapphire]

That doesnt really work for anything above a certain complexity level

[golden nexus]

it doesn't for the initial game

Lots of people do that though, like "Lets consume one oil node for power" then get the other parts to make that work

[flint elm]

whats the next fuel i should go for thats better than biomass?

[hard ivy]

solid biofuel then coal

[flint elm]

thanks

[pulsar glade]

How can I light up my base if it’s too dark ???

[golden nexus]

add lights

[pulsar glade]

When do I unlock those

[golden nexus]

awesome sink

[pulsar glade]

Thx

[tame bobcat]

they’re in the awesome shop once you unlock quickwire in the caterium mam tree

[whole drum]

You can also unlock Mk2 power poles in the MAM at that point, which is convenient

[unkempt blade]

and even more importantly the awesome shop is also where you unlock the best vehicle in the game the factory cart

[limpid inlet]

💀

[nimble jungle]

how much can a drone roughly transport maximimum per minute over about 900m

[reef basin]

depends on fuel, best is to build it and check

[hard ivy]

like 3 stacks/min? it's impossible to calculate it exactly

[leaden turret]

how much cargo can a cargo car cargo if a cargo car could go cargo

[limpid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[golden nexus]

It dpeneds, If you have a ship shipping ship shipping ships which are shipping shipping ship which contrain car transporters transporting cars. Then quite a lot tbh

[wicked nacelle]

Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

[leaden turret]

satisfactory only nonsense for this meme

[wicked nacelle]

There no ships in the game either 😛

[leaden turret]

x

[wicked nacelle]

If you set it up then it will tell you

But if you just consider the docking time on each side then you can compute a maximum

[leaden turret]

🇫🇷 how much escargot could an escargot cargo car cargo if a cargo car could go cargo escargot

-# making the argument that edible power slugs would be escargot

[golden nexus]

of course there are #screenshots message

[clever sandal]

why do i need to do the dirty work of building factories

why can't some other pioneer do it

[leaden turret]

#1201555265942724758

[reef basin]

because it's a factory building game? 😄

[golden nexus]

Your not premitted to speculate, its in your contract

[tired cypress]

Dang, I was swimming toward an island at the extreme north and fell off the map... Ada's yelling at me to get back in bounds and I'm like "bruh I'm trying! 🤣" but my death crate still got put on land so that's awesome

Kudos to the devs ensuring it didn't just spawn in an unreachable place

[clever sandal]

okay dude

[tired cypress]

There's a couple spaceships

[leaden turret]

car is landship, so say thor

[real shale]

What dirty work? Your build gun does all the building for you

[teal geyser]

People when they purchase a factory building game and find out that they have to build a factory: 🫠

[cyan spruce]

Honestly I don't even know what he wanted

[cunning glade]

So like is instant scrap bad

[dense violet]

gotta assume trolling with that name

[clever sandal]

what

[cunning glade]

I used it last time and theoretically it's the worst aluminum recipe according too some chart Frick if I remember how it ranks stuff but curious how the other compare since aluminum is getting closer

[clever sandal]

what's wrong with my username

[dense violet]

demanding other people work for your benefit while you do nothing after you bought the property?

[cunning glade]

Cuz its primarily a solo player factory game where u like build a factory too beat the game?

[clever sandal]

i guess bro gif

[cunning glade]

This is like asking why doesnt my person in cod automatically find and shoot the bad guys for me

Anyways aluminum let's talk about it not this troll

[hard ivy]

I mean it has the same bauxite efficiency as sloppy + electrode and it's probably easier to set up but the sulfur and coal cost is a bit much if you're making a lot of aluminium

[cunning glade]

Ye I hate electrode

Dislike the recipe why no clue me no like

[dense violet]

it's much more convenient importing a small amount of oil than thousands and thousands of coal for a big bauxite factory?

[cunning glade]

Ah yeah it's just like the circuit board

Yeah hate both thoose recipes

[clever sandal]

why do i have to eat why cant someone eat for me

[dense violet]

it's nothing like electrode circuit board xD ECBs take huge amounts of oil. Bauxite takes a tiny bit and outputs more

the only similarity is the yuse coke

[cunning glade]

I'm just saying in the fact it needs coke

[dense violet]

coke is very useful

[cunning glade]

I think about this all the time maybe then I wouldn't be underweight

[dense violet]

coke steel is very good when you already need oil products nearby

[cunning glade]

Yeah me dislike coke

[clever sandal]

cocaine coal?

wait

[cunning glade]

Idk we will see maybe I give it a chance

[clever sandal]

im dripping rn

[cunning glade]

But last time I think I needed like 2400 coal

[clever sandal]

anyway happy 2027

[sullen gull]

Shhhhh not yeeet

[clever sandal]

it's never too early to wish

[sullen gull]

Let this second dumpster smolder a bit before a light another now... 😏

[clever sandal]

happy year 3000

[cyan leaf]

Is it normal to be like completely burnt out from touching this game 😭

[zealous urchin]

electrode aluminum is crazy

crazy good

[zealous urchin]

instant crap*

so much coal used, even more than base

and not rly saving on refs cause u still need them for Sacid

[dense violet]

depends on your personal brain power, what you're doing, how you're doing it and how long you've been awake 😛

[ivory condor]

getting burn out, yes thats perfectly normal

[cyan leaf]

I have been on the starting of phase 4 and haven't been bothered to touch the game again 😭

[dense violet]

burn out is a thing - maybe take a week off. Play some cozy games

Even I've burnt out once or twice

[ivory condor]

well burn out is going to depend on individual level, as many factors influence how you experience, when and to what degree and for how long, etc but either its your brain telling its time for a break

[weak epoch]

Hey, if I have a conveyor with 450 iron ore/min and a conveyor with 750 iron ore/min how do i turn both of these conveyors into 600 iron ore/min?

[ivory condor]

So best advise for burn out, is take a break and come back to the game when you feel like actually playing the game again

[dense violet]

you could just over flow the 750 to the next belt?

[weak epoch]

Oh yeah didnt think about it

[dense violet]

so say you feed the 750 to a system that only needs 600? the over flow would just move over to the 450

[dense violet]

no sweat.
personally though I would just use the 450 and 750 lines as is, and clock those machines outputs to group them us as you need for hte next step

clocking and selective merging are very simple methods to keep things organised and not have messy layouts

[cyan leaf]

😭 lol just gotta say yes or no man iut of ur personally experience

[zealous urchin]

i need 62.62626373826 of that item bcs tools said so

[dense violet]

better clock it then 😛
round up the 4th digit and it'll average out what you need over tiem

[ivory condor]

My experience with burn out, usually it involves feels of this game turning into another job, being mentally tired, low desire to really want to play anymore, thats when I take a nice long break, can be weeks, months on a time

Which for me is understandable I have after all put at least 4k hours into the game, so have experienced some degrees of burn out a few times at least

[cyan leaf]

Omg that's so me right now 😭 this game is like a 2nd job and I csnt be ass upgrading my shitt

[clever sandal]

maybe

[dense violet]

first time going up the tiers? how far along are you?

[cyan leaf]

Me? Currently at the tiers that phase 4 unlocks

[dense violet]

ah that's right, you were saying
yeah maybe take a break.

bauxite teaches you how to reuse waste product in systems and can be a bit much if you're tired or if designing stuff takes more effort for you

[dense violet]

do you use a planner or anything?

[cyan leaf]

Nah as i everything i build are usually 1 off designs to suit the environment

[cunning glade]

saved me like alot off baux tho

[zealous urchin]

its just as efficient as electrode

[dense violet]

so planners are great for one offs , I recommend https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

it takes a bit of learning but is super worth it

and if you need to break it down into smaller chunks , break it down in a spread sheet

[zealous urchin]

this game also takes time

like u wont do all of 10 things in one session

probably just 2

and takes planning with it too

[ivory condor]

Sounds like its time for a break, go play another game, do something else, etc until your mentally ready to go back into it

[cyan leaf]

Ohg thats where they get that diagrams from

[ivory condor]

greenys planner is great definitely, i use that all the time

highly recommend for production planning, it does alot of the mental math for you

[zealous urchin]

greeny planner so good i have dreams about it

[cyan leaf]

I genuinely use my head to do the this that's why I use to ask a lot of questions of how much stuff I need 😅 😭

[primal obsidian]

NOOOOOOO MY 120 GW NUCLEAR POWER PLANT STOPPED WORKING WHYYYYYYYYYY

[zealous urchin]

it cured my depression too

[ivory condor]

fascinating

[dense violet]

that's probably one reason you're tired out. Donig plans manually is a lot of effort

best part of the planner is being able to swap out recipes to see the overall impact without manually recalculating things

[cyan leaf]

But is it worth doing nuclear power or keep doing fuel?

[zealous urchin]

plqnning is fun
then scratching it and starting to plan all over

[cyan leaf]

Lol indeed especially if u wanna upgrade

[primal obsidian]

please be an easyen problem to fix

[lost rapids]

I need to learn Uranium > Plutonium:(

[primal obsidian]

how the hell

[zealous urchin]

whats ur goal then, cause both have ups and downs

[primal obsidian]

did sulfur get into my copper line

[dense violet]

depends how you like things.
imo nuclear is more interesting. Each nuclear gen is worth 10x fuel so a lot less work laying those out
and the planner makes planning it out trivial

[ivory condor]

if your doing the production planning math manually, thats probably contributing to your burn out, using greenys planner can help reduce burn out, less mental stress after all

[cyan leaf]

Lol pray to the omnisassiah

[zealous urchin]

sulfur heard muscular american actor shouting 🗣️ geat to the coppa

[primal obsidian]

2nd time this has happened i guess theres a train dropping off sulfur here for some reason

sink it is i guess

[cyan leaf]

Do i need to use the maam to research rad proof stuff?

[sullen gull]

You will want a hazmat suit, gas mask, and some iodine filters to basically have the most "minimal" issue

[last tartan]

is the molded beam a good alternate for steel beams? Or should I stick to the base recipe

[primal obsidian]

depends on what resources are nearby, your personal preference,etc

[hard ivy]

A good alternate is encased industrial pipe which gets rid of like 90% beams you'd need and costs less. And the rest can easily be made with default beams

[last tartan]

true that, I don't use a lot of the encased beams yet though

[ivory condor]

depends, it isnt directly better if thats what you mean, steel beams doesnt have a great alt and it can be just as a good to use the base recipe in some cases

[last tartan]

my entire infrastructure is still built off of mk3 conveyors and we all know train rails use standard beams

[primal obsidian]

dang it

[ivory condor]

the only real way to get more steel is to go the default solid steel ingots->steel beams, because solid steel ingots is the only straight upgrade for steel ingots, now thats a great recipe

[last tartan]

I have it, definitely worthwhile

[ivory condor]

but should always use the solid steel ingots alt once you get it, as its basically more steel for the same resources

but no real downsides, besides smelting the iron ingots first, which is really isnt even a cost

[last tartan]

not to mention faster production rate

[zealous urchin]

i think molded beam moves around most items /m and requires comperatively most resources out of beam/pipe
so i would stick to normal beam

if u want to experiment and have wet concrete u can go molded pipe

[ivory condor]

it can be interesting https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=qqC6V0YerghzAX1dQSNi

its a trade off, using more limestone for reduced iron and coal

can be good if you have alot of excess concrete, molded beam isnt a bad recipe because of this trade off, just need to decide if it makes sense if you to do

[bitter shuttle]

i've got two statiosn named iron ore dropoff, but my trains are only routing to one of them. is there a way to fix this?

i guess i'll just number them

[sour ledge]

HAH! i opened a 'totally normal gift' with the hoverpack for safety, and it killed the whale tick bean thing next to it. Ficsmas violence is the best kind of violence!

[median solar]

Hey when does the FICSMAS Event ends ?

[sullen gull]

Jan 18th

[sullen gull]

Dang... Those do pack a punch then. Beans' got some health to it for sure.

[sour ledge]

yeah i expected it to take some damage and be spooked, not point blank slaughtered

[cyan leaf]

Is it worth converting my trains to drones?

[sour ledge]

ah well, im pretty hostile to the local fauna anyway

[sour ledge]

drones are much less infrastructure intensive, so if you have a large fuel production factory you can use them in place of trains with a lower time investment.

On the other hand, they have much smaller individual inventories so you end up either needing to use a lot of drones for high-number transportation, or good ol' trains.

[tall lantern]

different vehicles for different purposes, and if your system works already, why change it?

you might consider using drones instead of trains for newer stuff, but no point in replacing what you have

[sullen gull]

I like abbreviating and adding identifiers like Numbers Arabic or roman-numeral. Or PU for Pickup, DO for drop-off, DO1, DO2, etc for multiples.

[sour ledge]

personally i tend to use trains more than drones, but i will admit: i kinda like the building of the infrastructure for 'em. Having drones flying all over just doesn't give quite the 'industrial punk' aesthetic that having train lines, their support pillars driven into the earth all across the horizon, does....

a lot of people who find trains annoying (the signalling sure can be, ill admit) find drones considerably less effort for the same ultimate goal: getting shit from A to B

[tall lantern]

both have their charm, seeing them whizzing around the map. I do like that trains don't need a custom power source though, and act as power lines as a bonus

[sullen gull]

The main down side is the extra infrastructure to make/get fuel to the drone ports. (Which isn't horrible as you can also use drones to do this) And drones just really can't compete with trains for throughput

[sour ledge]

yeah, typically i tend to use trains to move raw resources like ores, and drones to move parts.

[sour ledge]

yessss and no - you can handle battery transportation via drones themselves, its just one additional drone port per factory and some splitters. So infrastructure-wise they still are way lower cost than trains.

Throughput trains win for sure though, but you can solve that by just... having more drones, so as long as your battery superfactory(s?) can keep up drones are still a strong throughput option

i wouldn't wanna transfer like, thousands of iron via drone but then hundreds of computers/m via drone i'd still find acceptable

[cunning glade]

trains and drones have diff uses imo

trains are for alot of stuff drones are for very few parts a min imo

[sour ledge]

the real problem is that by the time you get drones

[cunning glade]

cuz im making 3600 rubber a min rn and no way would i drone it around doesnt seem smart

[sour ledge]

you'll likely have needed some amount of train network anyway

[tropic sinew]

Guys what do I do with the extra set of data drives?

[sullen gull]

Battery shmateries. I like my sulfur lol. Rocket fuel for drone fuel all day. 😏

[sour ledge]

so drones are an answer to a logistics problem you've already solved lol

[tall lantern]

keep them for unlocking later recipes?

[cunning glade]

drones are mostly for the space ele tbh

[tropic sinew]

Not hard drives, FICSMAS data drives

[teal geyser]

Extra set?

[cunning glade]

most of the time when use them its for space ele stuff or too make it

anyways im gonna go smoke a joint and finish my rubber ill be back

[tall lantern]

how'd you get extra, did you do the event twice on the same save or something?
probably just throw 'em away or put 'em in storage or something

[tropic sinew]

Yeah I got them from the calendar and have no idea what to do with them

[teal geyser]

You can craft them in the Equipment Workshop too

[teal geyser]

Is your MAM tree all done?

[tropic sinew]

Yeah I completed it last year

[tropic sinew]

Yep

[tall lantern]

then it sounds like there isn't anything useful you can do with them, so yeah. put 'em away, flush down toilet, feed to a doggo, whatever takes your fancy

[tropic sinew]

Yeah lol

Devs, please fix doggone falling through the map

[past nest]

Anyone got any ideas of what to do after the end of the game? Blazed through the game and loved it but starting a new file just seems way too daunting

[tall lantern]

collect all the things, shrine to Ficsit, pave the world, build a factory

[tropic sinew]

Set a very large goal, and go for it. Like 20 pasta a min. Or more

Get the golden nut

[past nest]

Maybe actually

[tropic sinew]

Etc

[past nest]

Might go for a stupidly excessive nuclear plant

[tropic sinew]

Yeah, starting a new save sucks because you don't have jetpack or hoverpack

[tropic sinew]

What's your current power grid?

[past nest]

Enough tbh, 125 mw at peak

[grizzled lotus]

if I use compacted coal instead of coal in coal-powered generators, will they generate more power? or will they just take longer to burn through the fuel?

[tall lantern]

I hope you mean GW

[tropic sinew]

Yeah

[past nest]

Oh yeah shoot XD

[sullen gull]

The latter

[tall lantern]

take longer, all gens have a fixed power output

[tropic sinew]

Dang I'm working on making a 60,000 MW fuel power plant rn

[sullen gull]

Lol, 400Gw here 😛

[tropic sinew]

With only fuel

[past nest]

I have 1 impure uranium node going into a prety much 100% eficent nuclear plant and then a big turbofuel plant of the west islands

And loads of mini fuel generators scattered around

[tropic sinew]

Yeah I'm just turning a normal and pure node of oil into a crap ton of fuel and then burning it

[past nest]

Lol

[tropic sinew]

I've built all the machines, but I have to set up the water extractors and fuel powered generators

[past nest]

My main braging right is in transport tho, I have portals to literally everywhere and literally everything going in or out of my main factory comes by train

[sullen gull]

I'm trying to decide what I want to do with the 1950 oil in the Blue crater atm. Either 420GW power plant, or 2600/2600 plastic/rubber plant

[tropic sinew]

#screenshots message

As you can tell I haven't even started on phase 4 yet

[past nest]

Like there's a 4 lane railway coming in that splits into about 20 something stations XD

[past nest]

Gawd damm lol

[tropic sinew]

It took me 30-40 hours so far

I've never gotten to phase 4

I just finished a fuel power plant the day before 1.0 released

[cyan leaf]

Whays a good way to deal with hor? As I dint wanna keep making storages for em

[sullen gull]

Use it?

[tropic sinew]

Turn into fuel and burn it

Every fuel power plant I've made hasn't ever worked at 100% efficiency

[tall lantern]

sounds like someone needs to fix their setup

[tropic sinew]

Not my turbo fuel power plant from update 7/8, or my fuel power plant in update 8 (to be fair they did change a lot of things literally the next day)

[tall lantern]

you can also convert to coke and sink, if you cba to make it into anything more useful at this stage

[hollow flax]

can someone help me i have 2 120 belts and i need to split them into 1 line to 135 and one to 105 but i only hjave 120 belts any heklp

[tropic sinew]

Oh gosh

Oh wait

[cunning glade]

i mean hor is more useful than oil imo

[tropic sinew]

Split off one into a 60 belt, split that into 2, split that into 2, take one and merge it with the 120 belt, and merge the rest into the original belt

[sullen gull]

Erm... Kinda can't have one without the other...

[hollow flax]

can i get like a diagram 😭

[tropic sinew]

Hmm okay

[hollow flax]

🙏

[sullen gull]

Just split it and manifold it. If the manifold only needs 105/min, that's all it will pull

[hollow flax]

but then dont i have the problem of it not being able to fill the rest

or should i just inject the rest

[sullen gull]

So long as the initial supply doesn't exceed total demand, you can split every which way and it will "balance out" once everything is "purring". The belts will be full, but if you slap a counter on it, it should match whatever that line is "fedding"

[real shale]

Meanwhile me 300 hours into the game, on phase 4 and haven't even delivered a single space elevator part for it yet

[teal geyser]

Nothing wrong with taking your time. I have about 300 hours or more on my 3rd world (never beat the game before though) and haven't made a single phase 3 item yet

[sullen gull]

Oh yeah, 1900+ hours in the second save of "saving the day" and I think i completed phase 4 at like hour 1100 or something 🤣

[real shale]

Oh yeah there isn't, I love this game for the self pacing. Just automated 48 control rods a minute with potential to double it.

Also, ugh that pure iron recipe brought me immense pain

[compact flicker]

Ikr its terrible

[sullen gull]

Whaaaat? It's super simple! 😛

[real shale]

Not when you have Mk5 belts lol

Albeit I could have done the merging a bit better but it's a lesson learned for the next time

[compact flicker]

The list of numbers you csn enter does not contain any factors of 300 or 480

Makes my brain hurty >:

[real shale]

A ratio of 35 / 65 is yuck

[teal geyser]

Could always overclock/underclock to get prettier numbers though

[real shale]

Turns out to be 600/35 which is 17.1428, which is 1114.28 iron per pure node with MK2 miner

[sullen gull]

Or just block it out. However many refineries that is less than 780

[real shale]

I am realising that now actually, I could have merged it better since I do have excess iron leftover

[sullen gull]

And, do it in just a way, that all you need to do later is upgrade to mk6 and adjust the mergers.

[tropic sinew]

Oh, same. I'm about 100 hours into the save, and I plan on building a large factory for just stuff, and then a huge plastic/rubber plant, and then maybe start thinking about phase 4

[real shale]

I only needed 72 stators a minute for 48 control rods a min

[tropic sinew]

No idea if you need it, but I sent it in #screenshots

[sullen gull]

That just makes things infinitely more complicated than needed imo.

[tropic sinew]

Then tell me simpler way to directly split 2 belts into those ratios

[sullen gull]

I already did earlier.

[tropic sinew]

Oh, where?

If your explanation has "overflow" in it you're solving it the wrong way

Oh, how do you directly split one belt evenly across 5 machines?

[sullen gull]

I.e., don't worry about "ratios" or "balancing". It's never really needed. If I have 1200 coming in, I can split that off in to a manifold needing 234, another 12.63, another at 600, and the last needing 353.37.... every one of those machines will run at 100%.

[uneven edge]

Does anyone know what decoration I could put on my outside wall of my factory to make it look better

[sullen gull]

And all you need to worry about is using a belt that supports more than the manifold requires.

[tropic sinew]

That's like asking how to directly split a belt and you answering "use a manifold." Correct answer, wrong question.

[tropic sinew]

I know people that believe manifolds require more resources to run and reduce efficiency compared to directly splitting.

How do I split one belt evenly into 5?

[sullen gull]

You feed it 15 🤷‍♂️

[tropic sinew]

What does that mean

[spice spindle]

I feel like I've hit a wall with trains :/

[real shale]

How so

[white dawn]

Gotta dismantle that wall then!

[spice spindle]

I've watched tutorials, tried building my own blueprints, etc. but they just aren't intuitive at all

[placid stirrup]

Guess you gotta re-track the train then!

[placid stirrup]

Dangit always beating me to the punchline

[real shale]

Or have the train phase through it, depending on how you play the game :P