satisfactory

[shrewd hatch]

modern art installation on my map now

[sullen gull]

Maybe something like this: #screenshots message ... Though, a bit worried about having trucks passing through the smol gap at the top

[reef basin]

they are infinitely falling

[sullen gull]

And, would 3600 via truck be worth it, or should I just stick with one station with an 1800 potential

[hard mantle]

alr tinker what the hell. how did you make a circle

[shrewd hatch]

should I try to catch up to them?

theyre just staying in one place

[sullen gull]

There are ways in Vanilla, but I got tired of it taking so long, so I now use CurveBuilder mod.

[hard mantle]

theres mods??

[reef basin]

unofficial, but yes

[sullen gull]

There are, yes.

[hard mantle]

i mean all mods are unofficial so i assume you mean the actual software

[shrewd hatch]

dont they disable achievements tho

[reef basin]

I mean that there isn't official mod support

[golden nexus]

They easy https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vpMKiF6ssAY

[sullen gull]

Not all of them.

[unkempt blade]

vehicles are their own reward 😄

[sullen gull]

There is no "offical" support, but they have said they do not have any issues with the mods or the modding community.

[shrewd hatch]

how will I delete my tractors now

[golden nexus]

Its your own games, you own achivements.

Its up to you if you want to break you own game

[sullen gull]

Well, I am making this quickwire factory, producing 3600/min... and I want to have the ability for all transport options from it.

[shrewd hatch]

so is there no way to delete these tractors

[hot mango]

you dont want much then... 😁

[golden nexus]

save editor

[unkempt blade]

yeah your station is going to be capped at 2400 (2 x mk6 belt) so you'd need the second station if you're going that much production

[shrewd hatch]

ur right, I can use an older save

why did my game not save for 20 minutes straight

what the fuck satisfactory, I thought it would save every 2 minutes

Im doomed

[sullen gull]

Yeah, I am aware. Right now I have the production sectioned into 4 banks of 900... I figure using overflows, I can have it provide "options". Just so long as all options don't exceed 3600/min ..

[shrewd hatch]

doesnt that remove achievements

[golden nexus]

just leave them there

[shrewd hatch]

hell no

theyre blocking up my compass and I get less fps

[sullen gull]

I mean, This is only one cat node, one copper, and a water resource well. Perfect spot for Fused quickwire imo. Up on the hill just north of the Blue Crater.

[golden nexus]

🤷‍♂️

its like don't drive off the cliff 😛

[sullen gull]

You can hide items on the compass via the map

[shrewd hatch]

Nah I dont want them tractors to exist anymore

[hot mango]

i was just poking fun, ive had a few beers now 😉

[reef basin]

both mods and save editors should remove achievements imo (but neither do)

[hot mango]

im not doing much, just saying hello to my cat lol, he has come out for his fishy dinner i cooked for him

[shrewd hatch]

bro I need to remove tractors from the map

[reef basin]

then do so

[shrewd hatch]

Its valid to use it

[grizzled lotus]

you can do that, too

[shrewd hatch]

I hope they never do that because if somebody else has their tractors fly to space, they should be able to delete it withour worrying about their achievements being disabled

[reef basin]

and I didn't say anything about it not being valid? 🤔

[unkempt blade]

That's crazy talk. If anything you need even more tractors!

[shrewd hatch]

okay my satisfactory calculator wont load, theres just 4 fucking people rotating infront of my screen now

finally I got it to load

[unkempt blade]

Production calculators too. No help or no achievements!

[sullen gull]

But, anyhow, this truck idea is an afterthought to my idea for rebuilding this factory .... May just stick with train and/or drone ...

[last tartan]

i nabbed my prolonged surplus of animal remnants and made 12 1/2 coupons

[reef basin]

production calculators don't really affect your game directly tbh

[grizzled lotus]

I'm using more tractors this run and I'm finding them much better than I expected. at least in the early stages and especially if there's coal or petroleum coke at hand

[hot mango]

i dont buy cat food as such for my cat, he still has biscuits but i cook him white fish every day just half a sliice, he has grown up a very big muscle bound cat now he is 5 years old

[grizzled lotus]

tractors are generally very reliable as long as you close the pathway the first time. if they ever fall or drop they'll automatically return to their path

[golden nexus]

Can you remote assign a tractor to a route?

[grizzled lotus]

I don't think so

[unkempt blade]

I know it's not the most resource/power efficient but I get a lot of joy out of using tractors to transport coal using coal fuel with stations powered by coal generators

[grizzled lotus]

yeah, tractors are actually pretty fun to watch

[golden nexus]

I avoid them most of the time and jump to trains

[shrewd hatch]

guys why can I not delete somersloops

or mercer spheres

[grizzled lotus]

d-...delete them?

[hard ivy]

because devs said so

[shrewd hatch]

yes bru

[unkempt blade]

because they're a finite resource and could leave you without the ability to unlock certain stuff

[shrewd hatch]

ohh

[grizzled lotus]

did you try flushing them down the toilet?

[golden nexus]

Finite items cannot be deleted

[shrewd hatch]

coupons can tho

I deleted about 50 coupons

[golden nexus]

They are not finite

[hard ivy]

because you can make more

[shrewd hatch]

but they get progressively harder to get

[hard ivy]

only up to a point

[shrewd hatch]

oh

[grizzled lotus]

serious question but why are you trying to delete spheres and somersloops? is this something you're doing after doing every thing in the game or are you still unlocking tuff?

[shrewd hatch]

Im on tier 6

I thought I had too many

[dry vessel]

anyone got a recomendation for a central storage/hub location? some where central-ish but also just a nice looking spot

[shrewd hatch]

my last playthrough I used the desert as a central storage

[grizzled lotus]

don't know if that's the case at tier 6. have you used them to unlock stuff in the MAM?

[unkempt blade]

have you unlocked the stuff you research with them in the MAM?

[shrewd hatch]

nope

[hard ivy]

the dimensional depot

[grizzled lotus]

I feel like you're trolling me but you need to use the MAM and unlock stuff

[dry vessel]

mhm the amount of times people tell me this, i already have em but i just like having a central hub

[shrewd hatch]

yea I know I just havent researched yet

I thought I had too many than I need so I wanted to get rid of em, its that simple

[grizzled lotus]

ok. the first few mercer sphere unlocks are game changers. the somersloop one is also pretty big

[shrewd hatch]

okay ill unlock them

[unkempt blade]

"central" is probably more meaningful relative to where you're already building stuff

[dry vessel]

i dont see why youd ever want to get rid of them 😭

[shrewd hatch]

unironically ive never unlocked them in my 4 playthroughs

[mossy sand]

You haven't researched the MAM but want to delete them? That's crazy

[reef basin]

but they are still infinite

[dry vessel]

i mean ive not even hit phase 3 yet so pretty much all in the plains but il have to move around

[grizzled lotus]

the dimensional depot and having extra storage "in the cloud" makes stuff much more convenient

[shrewd hatch]

I always transported stuff with train

train with 20-30 carts

[dry vessel]

i have 2 stories, one is for normal storage containers then below i got my dimensional depots

i like my roads and tractors over trains

[grizzled lotus]

not really a central area but I really like the dune desert area. aesthetically pleasing, very wide with lots of open spaces

[shrewd hatch]

Yes I agree

[dry vessel]

thats gonna be some amount of fuel i need for my vehicles if i build there lmao

[shrewd hatch]

I made my central storage there

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[dry vessel]

i was thinking of building by that massive waterfal in the plains i like it but i feel like when i get late game its gonna get annoying it being there

[unkempt blade]

Yeah that's why I was suggesting sort of near your existing factories. Eventually you'll have enough fuel and power to just put it anywhere you want though if you're not in a huge hurry

[real shale]

i have seen the light

[shrewd hatch]

just make it easy to access

[sullen gull]

Hmm, also need to find an area for a "utility room"

[dry vessel]

was thinking of having it like the height of the waterfall getting a nice viewww, now that would look stupid af having a central storage in mid air

might just pop it in the plains tbh im sure it will be fine in the long runnn

[hot mango]

looking great there, awesome and very clean looking, i likey 😺

[last tartan]

riskily I have decided to go with asphalt as a factory floor

I am so indecisive on it 😭

[shrewd hatch]

use coated concrete

[hot mango]

tarmac as a factory floor sounds like a bad idea to me, if it get too hot your machines will sink 😮

[dry vessel]

far from central but i have it down in the south west plains 😭

[last tartan]

when do I get the rifle

[unkempt blade]

when you unlock it in the MAM

[last tartan]

under what research tree does it lie?

[sullen gull]

Sulfur

[last tartan]

got it

wow

I wish i would've known about this ramp that goes right up to the crater lakes from the desert

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1452421814624981002 anyone know how to solve this issue other than a 1m ramp?

[tall lantern]

rebuild the whole ramp bit 1m higher

[real shale]

this planet shall slowly become my ecumenopolis

[last tartan]

wow how have I not thought of that

[astral chasm]

will 1 dimensional depot transfer all the items I put into it to the cloud?

[tall lantern]

sometimes you just need an outside perspective

[tall lantern]

as long as it doesn't fill up on one item and get stuck with that in its slot

[hard ivy]

not really. once one item fills up, all will stop being uploaded

[astral chasm]

oh ok i get it thx

wait then how do i stop it from getting that one item

until it needs it when i use the item?

[hard ivy]

you don't

that's why you need one (or more uploader) for each item

[astral chasm]

oh damn ok

whats the item called that helps you search for mercer spheres?

[versed cosmos]

the object scanner

[astral chasm]

how do i get that?

[versed cosmos]

built in the equipment workshop

[astral chasm]

SAM craftingh line?

[versed cosmos]

no

its just in the equipment workshop

unlocked really early on

[astral chasm]

oh i found it thx

[subtle escarp]

Hello.
Does anyone know if Satisfactory supports the custom "Function" keys, like, with the Razer software I can configure from F13 up to F24, I wanted to use them, but they doesn't seem to be recognized, has anyone tested this? Thanks!

[sullen gull]

I believe you have to map/record your own keys/functions through teh Razor app. Like, I have the G1-G5 keys set to things like Hold, Left click, etc.

[brave hearth]

where do we suggest stuff i just want the alpha beta gamma delta sigma omega zero symbals

in the game

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[sullen gull]

Youy can, by using the ALT-key combos.

[subtle escarp]

I think you're referring to remaping an actual key, I have already done that, it's just that when I press that key in game, the remap shows as "None" (i'll send both screenshots at the #screenshots channels right now)

[subtle escarp]

#screenshots message
done

[hard ivy]

no, you assign a macro to the Fx key, and that macro "presses" an actual key (or key combo) the game would recognise

[sullen gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/r28yqs/list_for_special_characters_and_symbols_that_work/

[brave hearth]

what

[sullen gull]

That not what you're looking for?

[hard stump]

Ok is there a way a site where I can input how much ore I’m putting on a belt what recipe I’m using and what items I want to make and it tell me exactly how many constroros asemblers I need?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[sullen gull]

SFTools. Or you can use Satisfactory Modeler (Downloaded program) on Steam

[hard stump]

Iv given up with satisfactory tools me and my friend last night tried for 2 hours and evey time it’s just ad after ad after ad forcing you on different websites we are both on Xbox so steam is out of the question

[hard ivy]

are we talking about the same website lmao

SFTools has zero ads

[hard stump]

Just clicked the link you sent first pop up some random beauty product I even have to click away before I can even look at the damm page so yes maybe it doesent for you but iv tried on a iPhone iPad and thru ms on console and friend has tried on their phone and their MacBook with same result so yes

[hard ivy]

you might wanna check your device for viruses then

[real shale]

loaded it up on brave and it says its blocked a whooping 1 ad or tracker

[hard ivy]

because I could @ the author rn and they'd tell you they didn't put any ads on their site

[hard stump]

Ok then why is this the only website effected? Not a single other side has any issues. Again this has been done on 2 Xboxes now a iPhone a iPad someone’s l android phone and their Xbox id be baffled if all magicly has a virus especially considering tho not impossible Apple is fairly decent at not getting them and why not a single other website is effected

[hard ivy]

idk what to tell you man. you're the only person in history who has seen an ad on that site

because the author didn't put any on it

[tall lantern]

that is very odd, there's been some reports of VPN nonkiness there lately, but nothing about it having new ads

[hard stump]

Only person? Seems odd sense the 5 people who joined my world all had same issue and my best friend had same issues but ok I guess f all the others n the whole Reddit article with 300 people saying the same cool have a lovely day yall

[reef basin]

SFTools doesn't have any ads

[tall lantern]

what reddit post?

[hard ivy]

again, are we talking about the same site?

[hard stump]

Then please entertain what the heck I’m looking at?

[reef basin]

are you sure you're looking at the link above?

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[tall lantern]

and not fandom.com 😝

[hard stump]

For the third time yes iv even directly sent it to my friend who’s in my party right now same thing i dont know how much clearly i can be in saying im click the exact same link and copy paste but im done yall bye

[reef basin]

(and just fyi I'm the author KYO was talking about, I wrote Tools so I know what I put in there)

[soft marsh]

Went the clover route for my intersection, was an absolute pain so I may just bring back the round about lol

[reef basin]

can you DM me a screenshot of the thing?

[south sinew]

I've never seen any ads on satisfactorytools

[tall lantern]

and they were never heard from again

[hard ivy]

neither cloverleaf nor roundabout are particularly good intersections in this game

[soft marsh]

Yeah but theyre visuaally nicer than a bunch of crossing tracks

[astral chasm]

how do you get the rifle?

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch rifle

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rifle

[astral chasm]

thanks

[last tartan]

The Factory must Grow

[sick falcon]

why are the gas spiders so
evil

[last tartan]

they’re annoying

just don’t let them springtrap at you

they are stupidly fast though aren’t they

[uneven edge]

How do you get rid of the plants that the flys come out off

[hard ivy]

kill them

[limpid hazel]

that's just their love language for asking for lead poisoning

[last tartan]

Ive been using explosives

[uneven edge]

Ok thanks

[grizzled lotus]

#screenshots message path signal on the right, block signal on the left. any idea how this should work?

[sick falcon]

rifle will kill them in a few shots

before they can spawn

if ur early game just walk up and hit them a few times

[hard ivy]

the 1.1 signal bug maybe? move the signal back 1 rail segment away from the split

[real shale]

whats the 1.1 signal bug?

[dense violet]

you move the signal further from the junction to fix it

thats the whole thing

[hard ivy]

signals placed at rail splits/merges sometimes error out for no reason. they need to be moved to a spot where rails don't split or merge

[sick falcon]

why cant the chainsaw use normal fuel

[real shale]

huh

[sick falcon]

seems like such a basic feature

[dense violet]

its barely useful when you only have solid fuel

[hasty stump]

if you mean the hatchers, if you hit them while crouching (doesn't matter if it's melee or ranged or explosive or whatever) they won't release the bugs and they just sit there and let you kill them

[dense violet]

why would it take a different fuel later?

[last tartan]

That’s what we humans invented boomboom sticks for

[grizzled lotus]

I just removed the signal and the train just went ahead and now both trains are derailed. this needs a bit of fixing

[hard ivy]

that tends to happen when you remove important signals

[grizzled lotus]

to be honest I'm not even sure how path signals are supposed to work

[dense violet]

derailments tend to happen when you remove signals

[hard ivy]

they let a train through if and only if the train can go to and past the next block signal on its route

and they'll let through multiple trains at once if their paths do not intersect

[grizzled lotus]

so it's kind of like a smart block signal

[hard ivy]

smarter in some ways, dumber in others

[last tartan]

I don’t have the brains to figure out train signals yet, so I made a one train loop

also I don’t have the will to do any of that yet

[dense violet]

just use block signals if yo uwant. It's very easy

you never need path signals in a design and they are dubious in how useful they are

[grizzled lotus]

I think you're right, but I had half my circuit blocked because I was using solely block signals

[sick falcon]

whats the best way to deal with the irradiated hogs

[grizzled lotus]

can I have different trains unload different items at the same station? I'm not in the mood of making a parallel station

[dense violet]

you likely either had a signal bug - or you had rails get too close to each other on a turn

rails don't need to visually clip to be 'clipped' and the same block

[grizzled lotus]

kill them from far, or wear a radiation suit

[dense violet]

yes, but you have to be really careful on your throughput - as every extra train you have stop at a station reduces the platform throughput and also need a sorting/sink system

[sick falcon]

yes, make a sushi belt coming out of your freight terminal to sort the items

or just a single smart splitter if you have less types

[hard mantle]

play with passive animals 🔥

[hard ivy]

you don't need a single path signal if you use blocks properly. paths can just make intersections more efficient

plus they create no-stop zones, which is sometimes useful

[tall lantern]

mind, they can also make intersections less efficient

[hard ivy]

true

[dense violet]

you're very very unlikely to ever have so much traffic in your system that a path signal will make that much of a dif

[shrewd hatch]

how do I turn off the christmas theme

[hard ivy]

in the settings

[grizzled lotus]

if you see this picture #screenshots message you'll see how that train is just there because half my circuit is blocked. I guess I don't need it but it feels kind of necessary otherwise it's too slow

[sick falcon]

what do i do with my wonder stars

[hard ivy]

wonder at them

[dense violet]

would have to see an overhead shot showing signals

[hollow current]

Why is this game so addictive

[grizzled lotus]

ok, this is getting borderline overwhelming. taking a deep breath, and gonna build another train station at my base

a train station right below my current train station

[dense violet]

go into photo mode P , while holding a signal so it shows blocks

[sick falcon]

doesnt diluted packaged fuel let you get some really good oil to fuel ratios or am i misremembering

@dense violet how so

i only remember that it does, not how it does it

[dense violet]

you get more fuel for your oil?

oil > HOR alt > diluted

[sick falcon]

word ok

[hard ivy]

you just use it? it has a much better ratio than residual fuel

combine with heavy oil residue alt for even better efficiency

[grizzled lotus]

can't do that at the same time. when I enter photo mode the building mode is cancelled

[potent ether]

question for yall. is there a mod that will automatcicly place my powerlines

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

or do a search in the mod webpage

ficsit.app

[lavish carbon]

Hello! I am on my first playthrough since 1.0. I wanted to see if i could "speedrun" to tier 4, so i can start building my first proper factories with mk2 miners. To that end: are there any locations (crashpods or so) where i could pick up 100 steel pipes? I tried googling, but all i find are tutorials on how to build efficient factories ^^

[lost oasis]

soo guys since token sink doesnt accept uranium waste what should i do with it?

[potent ether]

i didnt know that was a thing

[dense violet]

you probably want to google the drop pod list - I don't think anyone carries it in their brain

[hard ivy]

store it or turn it into plutonium rods

[lost oasis]

i cant do plutonium yet

[tall lantern]

well that makes the decision easy then

[lavish carbon]

the drop pod site on the wiki does not mention what is lying around the drop pod, and if it does, then i guess none of the pods have steel pipes :( [control f on the site only mentions it 1 in what is needed to open them]

too bad, i was hoping there would be something :(

[dense violet]

yeah you probably need fan made lists

[hard ivy]

SCIM shows what's around drop pods

[tall lantern]

for wasteless nuclear, your only options are

• make plutonium rods, sink them (unless you have very good drone fueling math)
• go allll the way up to ficsonium

otherwise, gotta store that delicious waste

[unkempt blade]

You sure? I thought there was a big table of stuff near crash sites

[lavish carbon]

there is one but it does not mention steel pipes

[unkempt blade]

you sure? 😆

[hard ivy]

there's 1252 steel pipes to be found at crash sites

[sick falcon]

the pioneer is smart enough to make quantum warp drives but not smart enough to angle the jetpack to get horizontal speed

[unkempt blade]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Crash_Site has them listed

[lost oasis]

at what milestone/tier i can do plutonium things?

[lavish carbon]

ok this is weird i was on the wiki too but your link leads me somewhere else? are there multiple?

[tall lantern]

were you on the right wiki

[hard ivy]

there are 2 wikis, wiki.gg is the correct one, fandom hasn't been updated in years

[lavish carbon]

how do i see it? when i go on that map and click on these drop pods it says only what is required to open them, not what is around

[tall lantern]

should be somewhere in T8 IIRC? Certainly Phase 4

[lavish carbon]

i guess not, i am new ^^

i was just clicking the first link, same with the interactive map

[hard ivy]

you need to upload your save file and enable dropped items

[unkempt blade]

yeah the fandom one is old/unreliable

[tall lantern]

unfortunately the fandom wiki still rates fairly highly on Google searches, best you can do is just avoid it entirely. There's browser plugins that can help with that, or just check before you click

[lavish carbon]

oh, so it is random what is dropped where?

[lavish carbon]

thank you :)

[lavish carbon]

because if not, i would assume there is already a list somewhere that just tells me where to go?

that would ideally be what i am looking for, since it seems the fastest way

[hard ivy]

if somebody bothered to compile it, sure

I'm not aware of such list existing, though

[unkempt blade]

the page I linked has coordinates but it might still be easier to figure out where to go just looking at SCIM

[lavish carbon]

sorry, i must be blind - do you mean coordinates for the pods, or specifically for the materials?

[real shale]

time to overdose on quickwire

[unkempt blade]

coords should be for the pod but it lists what drops are near each one so they should be close

[lavish carbon]

ah i think i figured it out now, i was just searching very inefficiently 😅 / clicking the wrong links it seems

thank you all for your help :)

[primal obsidian]

ouch

i died

[unkempt blade]

he was survived by his 8 lizard doggos and pile of spaghetti

[strong fiber]

Tier 8 particle something

You also get the particle accelerator

[lavish carbon]

last question: is there a faster way to find a specific drop pod on scrim than to hover each image? ^^ xD

[hard ivy]

all drop pods are identical?

[tall lantern]

can't you just use the coordinates

[real shale]

man, looking at my old factories brings me immense pain i cant wait to just delete them all and rebuild it from the ground up

[unkempt blade]

you should leave them as a monument to all the progress you've made learning the game

[lavish carbon]

i don't know how, but i will look again tomorrow. it is past midnight for me and i am tired ^^ even the wiki is complicated in this game xD haha

[real shale]

i guess but seeing efficiency figures of like 17% are just ughhhhhh

[tall lantern]

tbh it'd probably make more sense to just make the steel pipes 😛

[real shale]

its the reason i've spent so long on phase 4 because i've been building so many micro factories to mass produce the stuff i should have been already mass producing lmao

[unkempt blade]

but you see those and know that you've become almost 6x as efficient!

[sick falcon]

i wish you could zoop diagonally and it would fill out a rectangle

[dusk glade]

i need someone to play with

[tall lantern]

#1201555265942724758

[dusk glade]

can someone play

[real shale]

its actually funny i looked at my old quickwire factory and it was producing only 450 quickwire/min from a pure node, whereas my one in progress is going to produce 3600 from one pure caterium and copper node

which has the potential to double when i get mk3 miners eventually

[dusk glade]

i went there i think the person went offline of the most resent one

[lavish carbon]

probably since i will have to run through the entire map, but my brains does not want to xD

[tall lantern]

then make your own post

[dusk glade]

ok

yall want to join

[tall lantern]

if I did I'd be in that channel

[clear tartan]

what stage of the game do you unlock trains

[real shale]

phase 3

[dusk glade]

i posted

[coarse orchid]

Hi

[dusk glade]

do you want to play with me

[reef basin]

#1201555265942724758

[dusk glade]

i made post

[tall lantern]

stop asking in here lol

[sick falcon]

does head lift reset if sent through a fluid buffer

[reef basin]

yes and no

(short answer is to not use fluid buffers at all, unless for buffering trains)

[sick falcon]

im buffering trains, and want to know if i need a pump on the pipe going from the buffer to the higher up port

[reef basin]

#design-and-architecture message

[grizzled lotus]

these signals aren't making sense. I have two trains and both of them won't move. I checked the colors of the rails and each train is on a different-colored tracks. What gives?

[hard ivy]

You should always put a pump before and after the buffer

[reef basin]

well if you only have two different segments, they obviously can't move

[grizzled lotus]

right. it's mroe than 2 but these are back to back, so I see the problem

[reef basin]

trains can only move to segments that don't have a train in them

[grizzled lotus]

but there are block signals between them, why aren't they turned into segments?

[astral chasm]

satisfactory might be the scariest game ever

i just got jumped by a t3 spider boy

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 with images, hard to say this way

[grizzled lotus]

those mega spiders are terrifying

[astral chasm]

fr

[rocky scarab]

arachnophobia mode doesn't make thing much better, but i need it to stop me actually dying of a heart attack

[astral chasm]

i died to it 3 times bro

[astral chasm]

shit is scary dude

[rocky scarab]

the noises oh god

[astral chasm]

im just trying to find some mercer spheres

i dont have sound on and i dont wanna know

[grizzled lotus]

to be honest not sure what image to choose

[tall lantern]

then post all the relevant ones

[reef basin]

you can add multiple. Ideally with the segment colors on

add some of the place where the problem is

[modern remnant]

we need discord x satisfactory discord profile effects

[reef basin]

we need discord to stop making shit features that just clutter the screen

[modern remnant]

that too

[grizzled lotus]

#1452449624798531738 message

[astral chasm]

fr tho

[dry vessel]

check screenshots i need opinions 🙏

[primal obsidian]

fully black

[reef basin]

#design-and-architecture would be better place to put that

[dry vessel]

ah ya

[reef basin]

since #screenshots don't allow talking

[sick falcon]

i wish there was a separate screenshots channel for pics to link here instead of show off

[green fiber]

thats kinda what #screenshots gets used for

[sullen gull]

Ummm ... #screenshots

[reef basin]

if you need to link a pic here, it usually means you should've posted in a different channel in a first place

[fast ruin]

do i need multiple freight station to empty a train with multiple freight cars?

[reef basin]

No. You may need multiple platforms though

[fast ruin]

yeah that what i asked

[reef basin]

"station" and "platform" are two different things

[fast ruin]

so with 5 cars i need a 5 freight platform long station

[shrewd hatch]

why are conveyor belt mk4s locked behind plastic

there is no plastic needed to craft them

[reef basin]

I don't think they are?

[shrewd hatch]

they are

just unlocked them

im gonna unlock all the tiers before actually making all the stuff

by buying them from the shop

[reef basin]

They are in T5, but not locked behind anything else

[shrewd hatch]

I need 200 plastic to unlock them

wait

that is not plastic?

ohhhh its rubber!

[reef basin]

It's rubber, and that doesn't make it "locked behind rubber"

[shrewd hatch]

okay but why does it need rubber to be unlocked

is it because of the truck

[reef basin]

Because milestones need things to pay to be unlocked

[fast ruin]

need rubber to unlock but not to build

[shrewd hatch]

is the factory cart electric

[tacit trellis]

Does that mean food is locked behind paper irl

[shrewd hatch]

where did they fit the battery for the electric cart?

[tacit trellis]

In the seat

[shrewd hatch]

Sure the motors could be in the tires but for the cart to run 24/7 without a battery?

[reef basin]

It's pedal powered

[shrewd hatch]

ohhh

[shrewd hatch]

but its on autopilot

[reef basin]

Autopedals

[tacit trellis]

We build things with a gun but a factory cart without a battery is a bridge too far?

[shrewd hatch]

every few months I come on this discord server to ask many questions

[tacit trellis]

But also just like under the seat

[dry vessel]

anyone got uh all the commands to make the game look a lil better?

[shrewd hatch]

/time set day

why does my game get slower everytime I open the menu

will that finally be fixed in 1.2

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[limpid hazel]

your tools run 24/7 without batteries

[glass pagoda]

Bye

[limpid hazel]

conveyor belts run 24/7 without batteries or even motors

signs are lit up 24/7 without batteries

the MAM and hub run 24/7 without batteries

[teal geyser]

The truth is too much!!!!!!!!

[nova ridge]

didnt get any answers in questions channel but I have two problems. I dont have CGNAT i think

1. cant connect to friends server unless im on vpn.
2. second I get this error every once in a while. UNetconnection::TICK:COnnection TIMED OUT.

[feral jay]

Try #dedicated-servers ?

It's not a dedicated server issue but someone might be listening there who has some more experience with networked games in general

[dense violet]

or google the specific errors - you might find reddit posts or something

[dry vessel]

right so what materials do i acutally put in my central storage 😭 i have 32 slots to fill

[feral jay]

All the materials, if you're going to do a central storage

[dry vessel]

you arents gonna put every single material into central storage

[feral jay]

I do

[dry vessel]

interesting

[feral jay]

For early game, probably all the stuff made with the basic steel/iron recipes

[buoyant anvil]

Is there a way, with or without mods, to make a train go around a loop without stations? For example, for FICSMAS, around a tree like a toy train?
I'm trying to capture video while it's moving so I can't be inside it driving while also being in photo mode doing video capture.

[feral jay]

That's what you really need for building so it helps to stockpile it before you get dimensional depots

[dense violet]

are you building a central storage for mechanical benefits or because of fun?

[feral jay]

But, protip: you really don't need a central storage. It's a fun challenge project, but totally superfluous

[dry vessel]

idk tbh i thought it would just be nice to have one, i have a story for storage and then the overflow goes down into a dimensional storage

might just include all the mats for crafting different conveyor belts, machines etc.

[feral jay]

Before we had dimensional depots I liked building drone malls, so I could have "uber delivery" of whatever parts I needed anywhere on the map

[dense violet]

ok what ca said - the amount of time planning and building a central storage will far far outstrip travelling to a couple spots sometiems and dragging a ton of items to a build site

[feral jay]

But now, that's totally not needed

[dense violet]

even before depots it really didn't save time or effort

[dry vessel]

right but its fun

[dense violet]

but dds basically just shot central depots in the face

[dense violet]

oh yeah sure, if it's just fun do whatever

[feral jay]

I still stockpile modular frames, concrete, plates, beams, pipes, that kind of thing

[dense violet]

consider just shipping a little bit of raw resources somewhere and having a tiny amount of everything produced on site

[dry vessel]

ive also kinda kidnapped a bean in my central storage it cant get out

[feral jay]

Kill it!

[dry vessel]

nah

what uh materials do you need to craft mk 4 belts, 5, 6 etc so i can put em in the storage, havent unlocked em yet

[dense violet]

!wikisearch belt

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=belt

[feral jay]

mk4->encased beams, mk.5->aluminium

Can't recall mk.6, I haven't got that far in a while. Time crystals or something

Mk.4 belts get expensive

[dry vessel]

mk4 is probs the easiest to build for me rn i have thousands of eib

[dry vessel]

is there aaa command for all the machines? 😭 gotta add that in too

[dense violet]

there's a search bar in the wiki...
it's a command to help people direct there, not to flood the channel

[feral jay]

I do wish the wiki link pics were smaller

[dense violet]

as long as people dont start using the chat as a search bar it's not a huge deal

[leaden turret]

!heysiri what's the amount of coal required to build a small heavy modular frame factory

[grizzled lotus]

ok, think it might be time to migrate. running out of nearby nodes to exploit

I'm at heavy modular frame

[ivory condor]

why migrate, expand instead

the factory most grow after all, more exploiting to do and the factory most continue to grow

[grizzled lotus]

maybe migrate isn't the rigth word. I'm running out of nearby nodes as my scanner can't detect anything. I feel like I ahve to travel quite a distance to make use of multiple nodes and different stuff for complex parts

[real shale]

okay google, what do i need to do if i want to double my production?

[ivory condor]

idk what stage your out, but trains are the way to go for future longer range logistics

[grizzled lotus]

get another PC so you can work on both at the same time

[dense violet]

the game is designed around making multiple factories all around , yes

[dense violet]

double your resources and machines.

[last tartan]

drake pc gif

[outer turret]

Unpopular opinion : Satisfactory lacks signals, logics and conveyor/valve gates. Throw me everything you have at your reach.

[ocean frost]

soon we are going to get chat GPT in here asking questions mark my words

[last tartan]

Satisfactory redstone when??

[sick falcon]

is hog armor cosmetic or should i be aiming for the squishy parts

[dense violet]

it's a static resource availability and static production chain - thats the whole reason why.

it's not factorio.

pls go play factorio if that is your jam, be my guest

[sick falcon]

clock up

[sick falcon]

nvm the hog i need to kill is clipped into the map, how long until he resets back to his spawn?

[outer turret]

You don't tell an ex crack addict to go back to crack 😆

[dense violet]

I will 1000000% throw you under the tank to not have anything factorio about my favourite game

[dense violet]

also clock your machines you philistine, that's your 'belt valve'

[sick falcon]

this guy is the #1 factorio hater

[dense violet]

almost entirely because for like 4 years during EA most of people's bitching about SF was 'this isn't factorio and im big mad'

[teal geyser]

Is he close enough to the surface to bblow him to kingdom come with nobelisks?

[dense violet]

I also don't find anything interesting about factorio. I don't want SF to become it

[real shale]

i love the sudden boost you get when your game autosaves while using the jetpack

[ocean frost]

I just want more control over my trains, would love to be able to set how much they puck up / drop off

[dense violet]

you have full control over how many parts per min you load into a station

also if you only consume X ppm on the other end, it'll only transfer X ppm

[ocean frost]

I want a train to be able to deliver to several stops for some items

it happens in real life all the time

[dense violet]

"also if you only consume X ppm on the other end, it'll only transfer X ppm"

It's a big manifold, it'll overflow

much like belts, if you don't want overflow, build a load balancer

[ocean frost]

having to wait for several stations and ISC to overflow is far form ideal

[dense violet]

"much like belts, if you don't want overflow, build a load balancer"

and you can speed that up by not turning on the system on the other end for a few minutes while things flood

you can do exactly what you're asking with very minimal work

[hard ivy]

Build a belt limiter then

[dense violet]

or just clock what you need onto the belt in the first place. If yo'ure building items for a train that is very easy to do.

[ocean frost]

That doesn't work for stations

[dense violet]

yes it does? it'll fil up the buffers faster if nothing is consuming them.

significantly faster

[ocean frost]

waiting for 48 item slots to fill up with something like computers is a little excessive for me

before i can get them overflow

[dense violet]

unless you're only moving a tiny amount of parts pm from that station it'll be fast. probably as fast as a normal manifold

[dense violet]

which you could start moving the items before you've even built the factory that consumes them

taking effectively zero time to fill up

[hard ivy]

You don't need an ISC for computers

[dense violet]

there are trivial methods around the situations you are complaining about

[hard ivy]

The input/output buffers of machines will buffer the 27s pause just fine

[ocean frost]

thats the storage limit of a train station

[outer turret]

Using a single drone or wagon to move more than one products type at once is impossible and will always lead to a deadlock.

Signals would make that trivial

[dense violet]

sorter and overflow sink
next issue

like basically any sushi logistics

[hard ivy]

Is it? Maybe it is. But then again, without an ISC, it's 48 slots, not 96

[outer turret]

I use sushi belt and train a lot. And I have a lot of sink in my lines because of that. Many items are produced just to be crushed because of that

[ocean frost]

I would compromise with having a way to disable storage slots

[dense violet]

if you just send the right parts per min to the station once it self balances it should never crunch

much like regular sushi belts

[outer turret]

That's a lot of micro management and is unscalable. But thank you for the hints

[dense violet]

?? it adds 1 static step to process things

and the whoile game is about dedicated process lines, so you should probably be managing what you're actually putting on your train

[hard ivy]

unscalable

Wow, just like all sushi belts 😆

[dense violet]

this is why I say 'pls play factorio if that's what you want'

[ocean frost]

sushi belts work best when resources are spread out, any container will have some stack sorting which is bad

[gentle lion]

If doing a sorter and box a is full of let's item x and you have smart splitter set to any will.it move on to get sinked or wherever you have setup? Or will it clog the line?

[dense violet]

if yo uset it up properly it'll sink

until your system as self balanced

then it'll just run

[gentle lion]

Ok

Thanks.

[ocean frost]

Without you we wouldn't have Blueprints or the new connection mode.

[gentle lion]

Setting up.Those dimensional depots on parts you need sure does help...its like unlimited parts

[dense violet]

yeah its like a semi creative mode mechanic

[ocean frost]

im sure cobalt was just as upset when those features were introduced, The DD is basically a personal roboport

[outer turret]

I tried everything and even in the optimal two items with 1:1 ratio, system will deadlock eventually. A sink is always needed to the overflow. So drones will always run everytime they can with 3 or 4 stacks of items. Anyway

[gentle lion]

And drones are kinda like a part delivery service

[dense violet]

you've set it up wrong, if you overflow to sink it'll at least just run. You don't even have to send the right ppm if ou don't care about stuff sinking

[dense violet]

whenever you do anything sushi you need constant consumption the whole length of production line or lots of overflow sinking

or both

[white dawn]

I do still feel like Depots should probably at least require power to continue uploading (with increased power demands as the upload rate increases), though at least the sphere collection requires a nontrivial amount of effort. IMO for most players it'll be into the midgame, at least, before you're really making full use of Depots

[dense violet]

10gw each

[gentle lion]

I finally have extra spheres to use them lol

I did make drone setup to bring computers and oscillators to where I was making the parts so I coukd make drones...🤔

[dense violet]

fair 🙂

[ocean frost]

you need to feed it Sam to power on or something

would be more inline with the game

[gentle lion]

Shh don't let them hear

It's alien though right? So maybe the sphere powers it?

[white dawn]

Heh, I don't think they're likely to ever tweak 'em; they pretty clearly wanted to ease inventory management pretty early on in playthroughs, so they didn't set the unlock requirements especially high

I can empathize with folks who feel that they went "too far" in the QoL department with those, though I've found I personally don't really miss having to come up with my own solutions for what they solve, so I've made my peace with 'em. :D

Though I admit I was a little sad that I didn't build out my beloved Drone Mall for my 1.0 save

[ocean frost]

I think they did it for the console people

[white dawn]

Perhaps I'll do it in the next; after all I did still do a Central Storage in 1.0. :D

[gentle lion]

As a console player I enjoy it lol

[ocean frost]

most pople i know played with increased inventory capacity mods or save edits

[white dawn]

Nah, they'd had prototypes of that stuff way back even before the public Early Access release; I think it was probably in their long-term plans for awhile

[feral jay]

I build central storages, and hey, if you're not playing my way, you're playing the wrong way...

[gentle lion]

I don't want to work onphase 4 stuff , I want to setup outposts bases and a central storage / sorter area

[dense violet]

do it

[ocean frost]

it also limits how far people are willing to explore if you have to go back for more resources

[gentle lion]

I connected power from west oil to east coal all along southern border

[ocean frost]

or at least how fast they do it

[gentle lion]

And made a small coal pp somehwere north east of the oil. I randomly found coal and water and was like I shiuld set up power here lol then I connected that to the grid as well.

The amount of resources nodes in the Eastern desert area is crazy

[teal geyser]

Haha. He said pp

[gentle lion]

It's a tiny pp too

[feral jay]

Starting to builf out my ammo factory tonight

[gentle lion]

I should just go north from where I started and connect power straight up

Then make diagonal connections....🤔

[teal geyser]

More dakka!

[feral jay]

More boom! (wtf is dakka?)

[dense violet]

make it only out of pig meat and SAM ore

[feral jay]

That would be an interesting challenge

[dense violet]

not really. Just bio coal + some converters and sam 😄

just means you only need 1 resource node + whatever you drop off after exploring

[feral jay]

I always build a full blown ammo factory becuase it's always huge sink points

[dense violet]

ah, less good option then

[teal geyser]

"Dakka is the Orkish word for firepower/ guns. So yes it is a form on onomatopoeia but from the perspective of low education individuals speaking with Cockney accents."

Warhammer 40k Ork speech

[feral jay]

Yes ok, I've played Warhammer, makes sense

[unborn moss]

Fill the train cars up with something else, leave enough room for how much you want them to carry of the target item. Then set the load / unload item in the time table.

[ornate cliff]

Can I maybe get some tips on how to design 60 particle accelerators

[dense violet]

what aspect of it?

[ornate cliff]

idk

I havent started it yet

[feral jay]

That is a VERY vague question

[dense violet]

well you probably want an overal lplan that tells you everything you're going to need first '60 PAs' is a very vague question

[sinful imp]

What is the trick to getting pipeline to connect to a junction? It keeps trying to twist around to the other side

[dense violet]

usually just have to face vaguely towards it

[dense violet]

try a planner https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[ornate cliff]

I have that

it is for the fisionium rods

[sinful imp]

It just refuses to connect. No idea why.

[ornate cliff]

the singularity cells and dark matter crystals

[dense violet]

ok link a plan.

What you are making (exactly) and where you want to build is like... step 1

[dense violet]

rebuild the junction maybe

[sinful imp]

pipeline coming out of extractor->junction, keeps wrapping around it

[dense violet]

oh, you probablyhave it on a mode it doesn't like for that distance

[ornate cliff]

The 50 PA is making singularity cells and 10 is making dark matter crystals

[dense violet]

make a plan with the recipes yo uwan tto use

[ornate cliff]

I am planing on building it in the coral reff biome

[dense violet]

then decide on a location.

Then we can figure out more stuff

[sinful imp]

Ah yea seems so, Ive never changed that intentionally, didnt know what it did

[dense violet]

probably just an accidental key hit

[sinful imp]

thanks for mentioning that

[ornate cliff]

And I am using the normal recipe

[dense violet]

so make a plan

if you can't even do that basic step you're going to have a lot of issues

[feral jay]

I don't intend to sound... uncouth. But how does one get to the point of dealing with dark matter and singularity cells, yet still need advice on basic recipes and hooking up junctions? I'm not sure of the level of expertise here.

[ornate cliff]

It's not that, the problem I have is to find a design I want to make so it looks cool and is not to hard to build

[dense violet]

the phase 5 stuff is pretty simple honestly.

there's 1 process where you probably want to keep fresh dark matter residue and waste DMR split like with bauxite? about it

[ornate cliff]

normaly I just place them in a line

and it looks so boring

[dense violet]

and all the buildings you need to build and how much of what is the first step

[ornate cliff]

50 singular and 10 dark matter

[sick falcon]

why is packaged diluted fuel produced in a refinery while normal diluted fuel is produced in a blender, despite both taking only 2 inputs

[dense violet]

when you can be bothered to create a full plan, using most any tool you like, then I can help. Until then goodbye

[dense violet]

it existed before pipes iirc

[dense violet]

also the refinery only has 1 fluid input

[sick falcon]

oh yh nvm that explains it

[ornate cliff]

I already know, 50 singular cells in to 50 PA to make 100 FICSONIUM and put that in to a quantum encoder wich will make 100 FiCSONIUM Rods and make 2000 Dark matter residue wich will be converted to 200 Dark Matter Crystals

[dense violet]

how many constructors are you going to use?

[limpid cairn]

Buff refineries

[ornate cliff]

need to check

[dense violet]

I'll see your 'buff' I'll raise you with 'set them on fire'

[dense violet]

make a plan and link it

[feral jay]

Look at you and your crazy "plans"

Some of us just live dangerously

[dense violet]

who knew you'd need them for good architecture

[feral jay]

I wonder how it's working out for console players. Us real computer players are used to just alt-tabbing to a planning site. That's not as easy on a console.

[dense violet]

using a lap top next to them hopefully?

I don't think any planner I've seen woudln't be total balls on your phone

[feral jay]

IOW they still need a real computer to play?

[dense violet]

A pad could probably work I guess?

[feral jay]

I do have to say, I've seen some footaqge on Reddit/Youtibe of the console UI, and it's fuckin' ballz

It was clearly a design consideration from the start

[dense violet]

I've said it before, forcing people to use controllers and console for this game is how I'd torture people. Just seems like the worst thing

[feral jay]

Yes, of all the games I've ever played, this one I would think to be the worst on a console, but the UI they've designed is just awesome, from what I can see

[dense violet]

that's good at least. I'd get too annoyed too quickly at all the extra clicks and drop downs

plus a stick is just not nearly as precise as the mouse

[ornate cliff]

I cant get it to work on the browser

I use the steam one

[feral jay]

Well, to be fair, the worst with a controller

[primal crypt]

wahat is suposed to happen when you press e before a hyper tube junction. in my game nothing happens.

[feral jay]

It's a keyboard/mouse game to me

[dense violet]

modeler is, as far as I'm concerned, the worst tool to actually plan a factory.

even if you show people an image of your plan it has Zero lables

plus you don't get to see the break down of machines easily. Just balls

[dense violet]

try https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[feral jay]

The direction you're going to go should be pulsing, and whn you press E, the pulsing tubes should change to other pulsing tubes

[ornate cliff]

I tried but it wont allow 100 fiscionium rods

[dense violet]

you need to add in the wastes you use manually in the inputs tab

[sick falcon]

is radio control system better than radio control unit recipe

or is it one of the ones where its preference

[feral jay]

I always use the vanilla recipe, but I haven't really explored the benefits of the alts

[dense violet]

yeah you're going way over the map resource limits with 100 ficsonium rods https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=V4v05zTTVDg0KOZS5ek9

[ornate cliff]

I use somersloops

for the expensive mats

[dense violet]

then use the 50 plan and double the F rods

[feral jay]

Satisfactory Tools doesn't, so cut everything in half

[ornate cliff]

I mean I will use them

[dense violet]

so use the 50 F rod plan I linked you and then just assume you'll get double

First step though would be to break that plan down into multiple tabs. Smaller hubs

[feral jay]

As Henry Ford famously said, everything is easy, when you divide it into small jobs

[sick falcon]

henry ford, famously good person you should be taking advice from

[feral jay]

He may have been good or not, but he was right about that

[deep bloom]

how long would it take to beat the game if you just hand crafted everything (except space elevator parts)

[feral jay]

Multiple decades

[deep bloom]

blast

[primal crypt]

i like modeler i can copare the diffent path to fin the one the best suit my location and place in game without Delisting 50 different recipes.

[primal obsidian]

i mean im pretty sure thats impossible literally all late game parts that arent even space parts need a machine

[deep bloom]

ah never been to that point yet, soon I will be though

[feral jay]

Even just basic aluminium, you can't hand craft the parts

[deep bloom]

damn

[feral jay]

You can buy aluminium sheets, but not alumium scrap

[primal obsidian]

yeah i didnt even think of that

[feral jay]

This is an automation game. Asking "Can I handcraft all the things" is... a stupid question.

[primal obsidian]

i was thinking of all the recipies in phase 5 that need excited photonic matter

[sick falcon]

how long if you manually put everything in the machines instead of using conveyors

[feral jay]

Well again, decades

Maybe just years

[deep bloom]

just curious

[limpid cairn]

Sftools is total buns on a phone

[sick falcon]

@dense violet

[feral jay]

Sry not meant as an insult

[deep bloom]

no worries

[dense violet]

depends on your other recipes and what resources you want to save on

[sick falcon]

word ty

[dense violet]

but that's largely true for every alt recipe

[sick falcon]

arent some like heavy encased frame strictly better tho?

[dense violet]

it's sometimes easier to easily value an alt over the base recipe

[feral jay]

Yes. But no.

[deep bloom]

do trees/plants regrow over time

[dense violet]

but generally you can't really compare alts to alts

[feral jay]

No

[deep bloom]

thanks

[feral jay]

This game has a static map

The map doesn't change until you say it does

[deep bloom]

I searched it up and something said it did over like a year or something

[real shale]

okay, another day another factory complete, now got 3600 quickwire a minute from one pure copper and caterium node

[deep bloom]

Nice

[feral jay]

Your search results are wrong. It's happened becauae of game updates that reset some stuff, but not as an intended game mechanic.

[deep bloom]

ah, alr. thanks

[ornate cliff]

@dense violet I will DM you a picture of how my first plan looks like

[dense violet]

if it's in modeler don't bother. It's unreadable

[feral jay]

Okay what is this Modeler stuff?

[dense violet]

it's a steam layout tool. Poor planner

[dense violet]

it has no lables so basically the only person who can easily read it is the person who made it.
otherwise you have no easy way to reference info going back to it

[ornate cliff]

I think the Tools is waste land I cant follow anything, I just see arrows going in all directions🥀

[feral jay]

So it's just a tool that's inferior to the ones that already exist but perhaps somehow popular with newer players?

[dense violet]

you can move the bubbles aroudn in tools to make it easier t olook at

[dense violet]

it's on steam
it's popular because of that. It's a platform everyone uses

[feral jay]

Yeah okay I get that, I'm a huge Steam fan

[dense violet]

like the one thing tools can't do that it does is have multiple recipe uses on the same page.

with tools you need to create a seperate linked tab

[dense violet]

yeah it's basically a monopoly

[ornate cliff]

I will send you mine and tell me whats wrong with it and change my mind about it

[feral jay]

Well if there was ever a well deserved monopoly, it's Steam. But that's a conversation for #off-topic-general

[ornate cliff]

yeah

[primal crypt]

Here is why i prefer radios control systems of connection untis. Control systems use less manufacturers to make the same products. but thier are no unversals. at scale the connection untis may be better.

[feral jay]

To be fair, this whole game is a question of what is good "at scale"

[dense violet]

irrc System uses less direct crystal but more aluminium and adds complexity with oil products

but it's very hard to compare since you can build the other parts very VERY differently. Only comparing 1 step is.. .eh

[feral jay]

ew, crystal oscillators that need oil? No thank you

[dense violet]

I mean If I could burn steam to the ground I would. Like all monopolies it shouldn't exist

[dense violet]

it already needs rubber in the main recipe, using insulated oscilators is easy at that point

[feral jay]

Yeah I'm with you. But it's so far a relatively benevolent dictatorship.

[dense violet]

30% hacked off the top plus if they deny a developer that effectively kills their entire business.

it's extortion - if you don't use their service you're dead in the water

[feral jay]

I don't pretend to understand all the details

[sick falcon]

its a monopoly bc every competitor constantly shoots themself in the foot, not bc they actively supress competition

[primal crypt]

i find i need to look at boath paths and everything invloved before decideing these things.

[feral jay]

And monopolies are bad, as anyone who's ever played Monopoly® by the official rules will know

[dense violet]

the main point is that if you don't use their service you effectively cannot survive the market

so they are effectively gate keepers that can ask any sum they like and yo ucan't say no

[feral jay]

However, until I can launch a competing platform, I welcome my Steam overlords

[sick falcon]

is using satisfactorycalculator to find hard drives cheating

[primal crypt]

that is the only part of the game i skip.

[feral jay]

That would depend on your personal definition of "cheating". This is a single player game.

[primal crypt]

its adds nothing for me.

[feral jay]

For what it's worth, I use Calculator all the time to find sloops/spheres/drives

God dammit I need to kill a bean

empties three mags and then gets scolded by ADA

[sick falcon]

convinced electrode scrap doesnt exist

everyone else is lying

[feral jay]

You're playing the game wrong

[sick falcon]

coal is rly inconvenient for me in this scenario but coke is plentiful why wouldnt i use it

[feral jay]

uhh that's a rather #adult topic but hey, you do you!

[feral jay]

I just automated and DD'ed rifle ammo and nobelisk, this changes everything

I still need to sink the excess, to keep up with my "all machines must run at 100% all the time" challenge

God damn that's a lot of blowie upie things

[shrewd hatch]

why can trains not transport vehicles

[feral jay]

Evil consipracy. Demand a refund.

[dense violet]

land your truck on top of one and go

[leaden turret]

car go cargo, cargo car no go

[feral jay]

You're fired

[leaden turret]

you only saying that cos you tried saying that out loud and failed 😛

[feral jay]

CHicken in the car and the car won't go, that's how you spell "Chicago"

The blue bug bled black blood, but the black bug bled blue blood.

The skunk sat on the stump, and the skunk stunk.

[leaden turret]

neither of those are satisfactory-related, you're fired

[sinful imp]

18 hours logged since buying yesterday.

[feral jay]

Touché

[leaden turret]

stinger sting a singer, singer stung a stinger

[leaden turret]

• don't forget to sleep and poop
• irregular reminder that idle crafting is paying microtransactings to your energy provider

[feral jay]

LOL these tongue twisters are so good, we can't even type them

I automated ammo toinight, so I'm high on myself

There will be much carnage tomorrow

[leaden turret]

otto oughta auto ammo

[sinful imp]

Are you able to destroy the plants that emit the green poison?

[leaden turret]

[feral jay]

Yes, with grenades

Well or the Satisfactory equiv of grenades

[sinful imp]

Making sure, thinking of building above them

[leaden turret]

-# ficsit-branded nuka nuke grenades

[feral jay]

The fart rocks are an area denial mechanic that are designed to be overcome

[leaden turret]

the alpha stingers are a mobile area denial mechanic that are designed to make you poop yourself

[sinful imp]

I built above them a little bit

Can't touch this

da na na na 😉

[feral jay]

My wife is a serious, like as in, needs therapy, arachnaphobe. She can't walk into my office when I'm exploring caves

[leaden turret]

🤔 what if discord rickrolled with hammer time whenever you get a server ban 🤔

[leaden turret]

enable arachnophobia mode, give wife ailurophobia

[feral jay]

No like she climbs no a ladder, cowers in the corner, for a wee little bitty spider

And the sipders in this game give ME gossebumps

Because of her, I understand that game option

[leaden turret]

||try taking a break to watch tv only to have a spider dangle down from the ceiling within your normal focal length so you have to cross your eyes to see it, and see how you feel||

[feral jay]

I'm rather the opposite, I will literally eat them

[lime yacht]

Whoopsie, just learned the hard way that a hazmat suit does not protect you fully when you put uranium in your pockets ☠️🤣

[sudden flint]

Clean output numbers, or maximized input from raw resources?

[leaden turret]

[zealous urchin]

thats one way to admit someone is disgusting

[feral jay]

Well okay, up to a certain size at least

[zealous urchin]

jk jk

[shrewd hatch]

Guys I found a bug

when I turn I lose no momentum

[leaden turret]

#satisfactory-memes message

top left: striek's wife
bottom left: striek
both right: spiders

[shrewd hatch]

I can literally rotate instantly while afloat

[feral jay]

more or less yeah

Then again

Spider bites..

I got bit by a spider once or twice, and I called Poison Control

[leaden turret]

time to sleep/nap before grocery delivery; have been caffeinated working on clips archive-related stuff all day, and it 4:45am

[feral jay]

This better be for holiday dinners

[shrewd hatch]

I cant wait for when I run out of coupons, im literally buying everything I need with em

[south idol]

so, spiders attack when they jump

and nobelisks detonate when attacked

[sudden flint]

cuz like. clean output numbers! yay! Overflowing machines over time. Boo!

[feral jay]

Yes, and those fuckers JUMP

[south idol]

throwing a nobelisk in a spiders face mid jump makes it detonate when it lands

*as long as it doesnt hit you mid air and Shares Then Joy©

[feral jay]

Spiders are why I automate homing ammo

[south idol]

i go for the nuclear solution

[feral jay]

Yes but the problem with nuclear grenades is... yeah sure we can build them, but nobody would be dumb enough to use them

[south idol]

nuke to the face mid jump, beeeeg bara boom

[sudden flint]

okay can someone explain steel rotors/stators to me?

they produce the same amount with the same number of machines, but one needs more resources?

[feral jay]

Generally not worth doing alt recipes for basic building materials imo

But if you're looking for alts for another chain it might be

[south idol]

i find steel rotors super worth it

[dense violet]

oh? they are super useful honestly

[south idol]

iron wire, iron pipes, iron rotors, iron stators, iron motors

[sudden flint]

It's supposed to make motor production like a quarter as complicated

[dense violet]

especially since they are used in later parts

[feral jay]

Iron wire is awesome

[south idol]

Big Iron

[sudden flint]

Yup

Agreed

[feral jay]

Anything that elminatwes a resource need is aweome actually

[sudden flint]

although it takes just barely more than a single mark 3 belt of Iron for one machine >:|

[south idol]

#screenshots message

my nuclear power is hungry hungry for iron

[sudden flint]

WAIT

BASIC IRON USES LIMESTONE WHICH I HAVE A SPARE NODE OF

[south idol]

nice
bonus iron

[sudden flint]

Basic Iron = more iron = enough Iron for iron motors with a mark three belt

[zealous urchin]

hear me out

Ficsit Blahaj

[feral jay]

STOP USING CAPS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SCREAMING AT US

[sudden flint]

-# :(

[zealous urchin]

he can scream idc

[sudden flint]

YAY!

[south idol]

-# ᵈᵃᵈᵈʸ ᶜʰⁱˡˡ

[feral jay]

haha fair

[zealous urchin]

FicsitBlahaj.gif

[spare bolt]

can explosive rebar break rocks?

[feral jay]

yes

[spare bolt]

kaboom

[feral jay]

The only thing that matters is the damage potential indicated by the mouseover

wtf is it tonight, now I need to kill TWO beans

[thick flame]

Anyone else gettin "auth server unavailable" or whatever?

[sudden flint]

:0

[feral jay]

And these two are in some kind of mating embrace

[sudden flint]

You dare kill the messengers od the great collective alien creature thing?

[thick flame]

When the idiot gets stuck in the floor of my factory somehow, Yes

[sudden flint]

:(

[feral jay]

#screenshots message

[thick flame]

Turn off your mirror tool

[feral jay]

Nope. Kill 'em.

[thick flame]

Cluster nobelisks beneath a creature will detonate it nearly all instantly

[feral jay]

ooh I did just automate and DD nobelisk.......

[thick flame]

Make the cluster nobelisks, way better

[thick flame]

ah steam auth services are down, don't restart your game for now

[feral jay]

SUre but what I have now is regular nobs

[thick flame]

You can make them real easy

just get the fine gunpowder from the research tree and near some iron and make them into cluster ones

[feral jay]

Apparently, most humans have more productive hobbies...

[thick flame]

True.

I was flushing alien items down the toilet earlier

Go flush an AI limiter

[feral jay]

This is great. I'm out of nobelisk, so I just grab some from the depot

[shrewd hatch]

can I buy nobelisks

[feral jay]

Just automated them

[shrewd hatch]

what

Ohhh you were talking about nobelisks

[thick flame]

Don't buy materials with tickets, really is not worth buying anything like materials

[shrewd hatch]

I purchased so much stuff now

All that motor, frames, plastic

[feral jay]

Except to rush a milestone or two

[shrewd hatch]

but can I buy nobelisks?

[feral jay]

yes

[thick flame]

I think so yeah, but again really not worth it

[shrewd hatch]

I dont see em in the shop

[thick flame]

Gotta unlock them first

[shrewd hatch]

I want to buy a 1000 of em for stockpiling

[thick flame]

OUGH, no, just go automate them

[shrewd hatch]

I unlocked them

On MAM

[feral jay]

My idea of a break is... telling

[thick flame]

Just go automate them, you really shouldn't buy materials for tickets

[shrewd hatch]

ohh its on equipment

[thick flame]

The psychotic kind, yeah

[shrewd hatch]

32 coupons is cheap

purchased 400

[feral jay]

TBF they were in the way and stuck so I needed to kill them

[thick flame]

32 coupons gets real expensive later

[shrewd hatch]

how do I swap bomb types?

[thick flame]

hold r

[hollow current]

I spent 10 hours playing this game and I spent 3 hours procrastinating on getting quartzs

[thick flame]

Real

[feral jay]

Hold E, rotate mouse

[thick flame]

oh right, forgot I rebound it

[shrewd hatch]

while holding detonator?

[thick flame]

Yeah

[shrewd hatch]

R works

[thick flame]

ah ok

[hollow onyx]

is steam down for anybody else

[feral jay]

Correction, hold R

[thick flame]

Yeah steams gettin mauled rn

[hollow onyx]

ddos?

[thick flame]

Probably a really big sale, I doubt it'd be a DDOS

[hollow onyx]

or did some game release tonight

[thick flame]

DDOS attacks feel different, was great timing cause I restarted my game right as it started lol

[hollow onyx]

yeah me too i just restarted my pc and its all screwed up

[shrewd hatch]

steam works just fine for me

[thick flame]

It's Auth servers

[shrewd hatch]

Im gonna buy 100 computers

100 heavy modular frames

[hollow onyx]

54 thousand down detector reports

[hollow onyx]

just handcraft blud

[thick flame]

wait if it's auth servers, then it's not a massive game release or smth

[shrewd hatch]

400 rubber and 1500 concrete

[thick flame]

Yeah you saying you're buying stuff is psychological torture

[feral jay]

Yes that's why I trekked down to my biomatter plant, because I sent the wrong things there #screenshots message

[thick flame]

up to 66k now woah

[shrewd hatch]

And I Just did, another 32 coupons gone

[thick flame]

I'm sticking you in a refinery now

????? really they blocked text modifications? lame

just gonna...
CRAM
you straight down the smoke tower

-# test?
test

[shrewd hatch]

I have enough coupons

tier 6

[thick flame]

You bought all the "decor" stuff yet?

[shrewd hatch]

used up ALL of my coupons now

[shrewd hatch]

isnt that lame

[thick flame]

not really, they're very useful even just for factory expansions

[feral jay]

Sink all the things and buy all the things

[shrewd hatch]

no theyre useless

[feral jay]

Yes but so am I

Yet, my wife loves me

[shrewd hatch]

u have a wife

you should be happy

[feral jay]

That's what she tells me

[thick flame]

Auth servers are back up

[feral jay]

She likes the candy cane basher

[hallow pulsar]

i throw all my coupons in a hole

[shrewd hatch]

yo thats kinda relatable

[feral jay]

That's what HE said

[thick flame]

I did once sink 500 coupons in front of a friend (in an autosave, I undid it after) just to see what they'd do

[last tartan]

Why does the elevator feel so "rough"

[thick flame]

It's controlled by another ADA

They're called ElevADA

[last tartan]

the motion isn't very fluid

[feral jay]

That's GOLD, Jerry.. GOLD!

[shrewd hatch]

It starts and goes fast

[last tartan]

its like an abrupt stop

[thick flame]

Yeah it's rather jumpy

[shrewd hatch]

and stops like in an instant

[feral jay]

Ya well

[last tartan]

that needs work

[feral jay]

The game was unplayable before elevators

[shrewd hatch]

Every time I open menu my game freezes

[feral jay]

Back in my day... we didn't have conveyor lifts

[shrewd hatch]

ok unc we get it

[real shale]

Back in my day the mam was in the hub

[feral jay]

Or zoop

[thick flame]

man I forgot about that

[shrewd hatch]

I bought this game in 2024 april

for 15 bucks

[thick flame]

damn, nice

[feral jay]

I think I paid 10 bucks for this game

[shrewd hatch]

back in my day there werent even conveyor belts

[feral jay]

Canadian obv

[thick flame]

meanwhile I had bought it originally from a friend suggesting it early on I think even before they had done the major update versions

[real shale]

Anyway I'm kidding, Im quite new to the game, although I somehow have the early access items but not gonna question that

I'd have supported this game in early access if I knew about it earlier :P

[feral jay]

Look here now grasshopper, do it all without lifts or pipes

Oh gawd I'm LOL

[real shale]

Without pipes?

[feral jay]

Yes, pipes came out in U3 iirc

I picved up the game in U4 or so so yeah my memory is a buit fuzzy

[shrewd hatch]

I just bought iron rods from the awesome shop

[pearl sparrow]

i got it update 6 but didnt play much till now

[feral jay]

I was begging for priority mergers for YEARS

[feral jay]

Automate that shit

[shrewd hatch]

I have it automated