satisfactory

[idle glen]

yee theres nothing about this in keybinds, had to go on google

oh nvm it was, my bad

[sweet plaza]

But wasn't it on the screen most of the time you can see all the modes of the tool

[nova lynx]

im gonna make a cart racetrack

[keen light]

It's like those people who think they are drowning in water up to their knees

[true mulch]

This sounds dumb but it's the right approach

[keen light]

I was only half serious, my other half would go find more mercer spheres

but yes

[idle glen]

this one is not visible

[nova lynx]

yes but im building up my factory

like infrustructure

[sweet plaza]

Weird

[true mulch]

The game doesn't really make you wait past tier 1 or so, when you're "waiting for parts" you should instead be building a factory to make more of those parts

[nova lynx]

no its because i just didnt bother making the phase parts earlier

and tbh its almsot there anyway

[true mulch]

Yeah, but still, you can avoid waiting by planning and building in the right order

[nova lynx]

yes

i know
but i didnt do that

so i need to occupy my time

jesus let a girl have fun

[silk ocean]

If you are vaguely old enough to not care, don't participate in "Christmas", it's a commercialised hellscape that results in millions or hundreds of millions of various forms of plastic and other waste, it's a commercialised hellscape. Don't do it xD

[nova lynx]

huh

i mean i agree, but why in this server

[silk ocean]

Off topic is our style

Are you new here or something XD

[nova lynx]

but nobody is talking about that lmfao
just completely random

somewhat

[keen light]

There was some christmas talk not too long ago

[nova lynx]

oh ok

[silk ocean]

It was in delayed response to previous xmas chat

Try to keep up 😉

[whole drum]

Says the delayed guy 🤣

[nova lynx]

you.. were the one that was behind
lmfao

[silk ocean]

I can be delayed... you have to keep up hehehehe xD

[nova lynx]

but i am lmfao

[true mulch]

People go mad around this time. I've seen countless car crashes in the past two weeks

[silk ocean]

Uh oh.. there is being mad and there is crashing a car

[true mulch]

Doing grocery shopping in any capacity is hell

[nova lynx]

im gonna go with a solid american/10

[silk ocean]

Grocery shopping can induce madness but how is this related to car crashing

[true mulch]

I'm in Europe lol

[nova lynx]

oh

[gritty zealot]

whats with the random updates and no info? can anybody tell me why im downloading 1.7gb?

[zealous urchin]

real

[true mulch]

No info? #patch-notes

[shy mulch]

I usually look forward to Christmas, but this year won't quite be the same, some of the family aren't here any more

[nova lynx]

that is very american coded still
(how do i save this, also im so sorry nobody deserves to be called american)

[gritty zealot]

didnt know there was a channel, i usually use the steam page, thanks

[true mulch]

People who wouldn't drive normally get on the road to do shopping, and the general stress contributes as well

[shy mulch]

Make Lizard Doggos Great Again

[keen light]

Lizard doggos were always great

[rancid flume]

anyone able to send me photos of their highways/railways, especially their foundations/supports that i can use as inspo

im so lost designing one, both 1 and 2 lane

[true mulch]

Ask in #design-and-architecture

[silk ocean]

What do you mean wouldn't drive normally xD Either they have a license or not.. and stress sure it can contribute, but seems a bit wild for grocery shopping

[shy mulch]

You can also do a keyword search in specific channels

[dense violet]

clock a machine to put 10 on it.
or just let the machines fill up and self balance

[silk ocean]

Been through that the past decade as various fam drop dead, not always fun

[shy mulch]

A lot of people have a license and a car, but very rarely use it. Suddenly at christmas they need to use it, and can't remember how, and they cause chaos for everyone else

[silk ocean]

I think most people who can drive in the UK, do drive regularly

[keen light]

Oh is that a european thing? I've never heard of that

[true mulch]

Could depend on where you live, but my point is what WasIstDaz said

[whole drum]

That's not even the main issue with it. The problem is that a bunch of people like to drink around the holidays, then get into a car for some stupid reason, and make life hell for the rest of us.

[true mulch]

Yeah, also a non-negligible factor

[silk ocean]

Never heard of a thing in the UK where people come out the woodwork at Christmas and warm up the oil in the car, take it out the garage, and drive for the first time in 3-6 months XD

[golden nexus]

Yup its impossible where i am not to drive, if you don't drive your considered "dysfunctional"

[silk ocean]

The oldies are always driving xD

[true mulch]

Not like that. They just don't necessarily drive often and aren't good drivers

[gritty zealot]

this doesnt sound like satisfactory talk

[whole drum]

Scary in its own right

[gritty zealot]

whos factorising rn

[crude estuary]

Then new patch is only usefull for SteamDeck? Not PC?

[silk ocean]

Standards here are pretty good

[golden nexus]

That results here as a 1 year driving ban and a criminal record. The inusurance companies then bill you approx £5,000/yr for the next 5 years.

[true mulch]

Seems like it

[keen light]

seems so bestter

[silk ocean]

In which US State do you reside xD

[golden nexus]

UK/IE

[whole drum]

Sounds like America, except the monetary penalties are different.

[silk ocean]

What is that... this place

[golden nexus]

Its not a state fine. It just nobody wants to insure you to drive, to give perspective my insurance is £250'

[golden nexus]

N.Ireland. Which is kinda half UK and half Irish

[keen light]

not having insurance is kind of understandable

[whole drum]

A guilty plea/conviction for drunk driving is immediate license revocation and you have to go through a bunch of expensive and time-consuming hoops and hurdles to get your license back provisionally and with extortionately priced insurance

[keen light]

if you're not a daily driver

[silk ocean]

Northern Island is the UK, it's not Irish at all xD

It is the United Kingdom

[golden nexus]

not permitted here, immediatly license revoked if no insurance

[whole drum]

It's not optional here

[rancid flume]

when i make my quartz factory, i plan to do crystal oscilators, silica and quartz crystals. is there something i should add, or something that isnt worth having made in a factory?

[golden nexus]

Well, We have both passports 🙂

[silk ocean]

Well that is called Dual Citizenship xD

[whole drum]

If you drive, you must have insurance

[golden nexus]

Ywah but we get it by birthright....

[keen light]

I'm not sure it's quite legal here either, but if you're not driving... shrug

[nova lynx]

legally speaking its extremely complex compared to "just in the uk"

[dense violet]

generally wouldn't make any of that unless they were going directly into other parts

[rancid flume]

oh fair

[silk ocean]

How you got it, sure, but Ireland is not the UK xD

The Republic of Ireland

[golden nexus]

I know 🙂 I live here lmao

[silk ocean]

Nice xD

[golden nexus]

Bear in mind it take about 90 minutes to get from the capitol of one to the capitol of the other

the other very UK thing is... cars are mostly manual 🙂

[silk ocean]

Time to traverse border not really factored in xD Live in Vancouver, doesn't take long to break into Washington State xD

[golden nexus]

I have never driven an automatic

[nova lynx]

same

[crude estuary]

90 minutes? that's a neigbohr!

[zealous urchin]

automatic is cheating

[nova lynx]

thats a long journey you bullet riddled yank

[silk ocean]

I have a manual license, driven a few, but basically only owned automatics

[golden nexus]

Thats Belfast -> Dublin or Dublin -> Belfast. Its about 90 minutes on a car/bus or 2 on the train

[crude estuary]

you dont live 90 minute to Ottawa, still 😉

[silk ocean]

Can confirm I live oceans away xD

[golden nexus]

But here is you drive East -> West you run out of island in about 2 hours

[silk ocean]

Well... 1 ocean....

[crude estuary]

i ve about 30-45 minutes from USA I think ...

[golden nexus]

5 Hours flight time

[silk ocean]

3 to 45.. bit variable

[crude estuary]

30! it's a typo!

[silk ocean]

You edited it with a sneaky 0

[golden nexus]

ITs about an hour faster doing USA -> UK then UK -> USA

[crude estuary]

wind ...

[golden nexus]

jetstream

[crude estuary]

yeah whatever it'S called 😉

[silk ocean]

Concorde did something like JFK -> LHR in 2 hours and 58 mins

[golden nexus]

nobody here really does automatics because the car is always in the wrong hear because we have country road / curves / hills etc....

[golden nexus]

Seen it flying, heard it fly as well

[silk ocean]

Barely enough time to have 3rd course xD

[golden nexus]

Use to get the sonic booms over the Irish sea......

[silk ocean]

Arguably one of the best aircraft ever made

[golden nexus]

until the wing fell off

[silk ocean]

Everybody was so upset about sonic booms, they are fantastic

[silk ocean]

That was not Concorde.. That was the demo of Concordski

[crude estuary]

Concorde was never profitable cause it's was too small and drink too much kerosene ...

[silk ocean]

The Russian copy

[rocky scarab]

mcdonall douglas just have to ruin everything

[golden nexus]

It was very small narrow plane, I have been in one in Ducksford/UK

[crude estuary]

lucky!

[silk ocean]

Duxford xD

[scenic mirage]

2.653 x 10^32 minutes?? thats 5.05 x 10^26 years

[golden nexus]

Quackers

[silk ocean]

Quackxfordz

[golden nexus]

What driving here is often like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TL8R8uVWDgo

[scenic mirage]

where tf in the universe are you?? are you on MASSAGE-2(A-B)b 😭

[silk ocean]

Literally nothing just happened

[scenic mirage]

no no, its dark 😱

[silk ocean]

The sun is shining upon Aussieland xD

[golden nexus]

yeah.. nothing happened..

we do thoose roads at about 60mph

[silk ocean]

It does seem quite cautious for that standard of road

[golden nexus]

If you want something more interesting we also still do road racing like the isle of man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J_zT1E0Zlw

[silk ocean]

Fair play, don't know the road, sensible speed

There is an Ulster GP? Jesus

[golden nexus]

Yeah like Isle of man TT, There is Ulster GP, Killinchy 100, North West 200

[silk ocean]

Never knew that

[golden nexus]

bike going past at 200mph+

gotta run 🙂

[silk ocean]

Probably happens on the Tourist Trophy

[golden nexus]

yes its same thing

[silk ocean]

Should be one in England, yeah right

[runic sage]

is it possible to spawn a container with specific items using satisfactory calculator?

[silk ocean]

With some editor if not that

[crude estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[silk ocean]

It is a bit that ^^

[shy mulch]

I'm looking forward to the new one being developed. Look up Boom Overture if you haven't already

[runic sage]

https://tenor.com/view/svrainy-pic-perms-image-perms-ratio-discord-gif-15900347468393102235

[silk ocean]

Why you cheaty

[crude estuary]

what???

[silk ocean]

yea, know about it along with other developments xD

Mach 1.3.. you can't supercruise at 1.3 without a transonic or supersonic shockwave xD

It's not even transonic at 1.3.. it's supersonic XD

[coral glacier]

Gotta go fast

[silk ocean]

Supersonic commercial flight is hard to get right

[zealous urchin]

ok concord defender

[scenic mirage]

im doing another aluminum factory and i have 4 refineries making 582.633 alum solution/min. then 4 refineries making 873.95 alum scrap/min, with 291.317 water/min. i can use that for 2.4 alumina solution refineries. how would that work

[hot mango]

i just started up my game after a sleep and they released a patch

i wonder if the parachute is fixed now 🤔

[real shale]

Oh yeah this game has a parachute

I forgot lol

[fluid sapphire]

lots of ingots indeed, aluminum is really the only type of ingot i mass produce like this (well, i suppose there is the ~5000 iron that i make from the byproduct water), for everything else i generally make localized smelters

[hot mango]

yeah my xmas parachute trapped me inside an invisible force field lol

[fluid sapphire]

makes for a cool knot where some of this stuff goes through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YIBxpXWYnA

[tame bobcat]

i love how during the FICMAS stuff ADA is genuinely against it so much LMFAOO

[feral jay]

I love the tongue-in-cheek jabs at rampant consumerism

[ornate saffron]

I have never played during the Xmas event. Its a shame my schedule never lines up

[feral jay]

It's fun, the only real thing you get out of it is snowballs though

And the candy cane basher

I'm sure there's a permanent Ficsmas mod if you wanna have a go at it some other time

[mystic oriole]

I specifically avoid it.
Ever since the giant presents falling from the sky it's turned me off of the event. I did play it last year. I may play it next year.

[feral jay]

The presents are much smaller now

That was annoying

[mystic oriole]

I know, I played it last year

[ornate saffron]

Ill start planning my next playthrough over the holidays. But I may wait to actually play again until the next big update

[mystic oriole]

after the event I'll either pick this game back up or Starfield. Perhaps something else.

or schedule, and cycle through a bunch of games

[ornate saffron]

I usually play rust over the holidays but the folks I play with are going to be buried alive and likely won't have power let alone internet

[mystic oriole]

lol, burried.
I suppose that means a lot of snow, east coast?

[ornate saffron]

North ontario.

[tame bobcat]

is encased industrial pipe a decent alternate recipe

[ornate saffron]

I like it. But it depends on what resources you have access to and what you are willing to use

[mystic oriole]

that would have been my second.
Always admire the area, and people, bi-lingual. I usually go moose hunting there when I use to live in ontario.

[ornate saffron]

Mmm moose. Been a while since I had some. I should hit up my cousin on Georgian Island for some jerky

[tame bobcat]

yea i think im gonna use it, i've been overproducing steel pipe anyways

[ornate saffron]

Most of the alt recipies are just that alternatives. I try to think about what is best for the situation not what is the best recipe.

That being said sometimes I just get sick of building refineries so I change it up lol

[feral dragon]

The sink dna points is just from killing monsters right?

[ornate saffron]

You have to process the remains but yes

[mystic oriole]

don't forget to sloop those machines for more points.

[feral jay]

heh I just got off the phone with my brother in Thunder Bay, they got buried last night

[mystic oriole]

well, Tbay is cooked, better sit close to the mill and enjoy it.

[feral dragon]

I'm just waiting for 1000 points and sinks most endgame stuff but it takes sooo long. Maybe a monster killing-grind is a way to go

[mystic oriole]

pretty much yeah, that's what I did. Also you may want to consider nuclear options, and end game item sinking, doesn't take long with that.

what do you do for power?

[feral dragon]

50/50 Nuclear (all 3 types) and ionized fuel generators

I have like 700 tickets but the last 300, man

I bought all other statues before wich was a misstake

[mystic oriole]

nice, if you need more, you can also make hover packs and sink them, they're a nice amount of points.

[feral dragon]

But they need to be done manually no?

[mystic oriole]

yeah

[feral jay]

Concrete is a great source of very early game sink points

Or sinking uranium ore, but that gets... dangerous to set up

[shy mulch]

ballistic warp drives are best for tickets

[feral jay]

*early game

[shy mulch]

The guy said he had all 3 nuclear types and was at 700 tickets, that doesn't seem like early game to me

[feral jay]

ohhh I missed that

[mystic oriole]

I think he's just struggling to complete all Achievments. he wants the nut

[shy mulch]

everyone wants the nut

[scenic mirage]

😏

[zealous urchin]

i dont

[scenic mirage]

i have to place so many goddamn refineries bruh 😭

[steep canopy]

i'm missing something. i can't make the ficsmas ornament bundle, but i'm at that step in the MAM. what am i missing here?

i place the assembler, but it's not there as a recipe

[mystic oriole]

I suppose you can use a blueprint to help.

[scenic mirage]

yeah but its still a lot

[ornate saffron]

they are looking at another 50cm this weekend. My friends are north of there lol

[scenic mirage]

like 50 more rn i think, and maybe more

nuclear is a lotttttt of setup

[feral jay]

damn

That's a lot of snow

[somber narwhal]

I want to split a single conveyor onto 5 machines equally, how can I do that

[scenic mirage]

a 1:5 splitter

or just manifold, you dont really need load balancing

[mystic oriole]

must be the storm that's moving through winterpeg

[scenic mirage]

huh

[mystic oriole]

storms move through winterpeg then pass even more snow in Tbay

[scenic mirage]

what does that have to do w refineries 😭

[mystic oriole]

oops, I think I hit reply on one as it moved

that was meant for @ornate saffron

[cunning lily]

Must have picked up some momentum when it moved east from us. We got a decent dump, but now its just frigid and bone dry. The air is too cold for any moisture.

[mystic oriole]

mid Alberta? That's where I'm at

[cunning lily]

Well then, howdy neighbor. 👏

[feral jay]

All the best people are Canadian

[mystic oriole]

nice to know someone else nearby, so that the ping wont be too bad. And yeah, indeed Canadians are the best. But of course I'm biased

[ornate saffron]

Ya, i got a friend there too. He is a biological engineer specializing in something related to plants. He is stuck in a green house for the holidays so his experiment doesn't die

[rain wasp]

Hello, beginner question here. I have 2 assemblers that use the same material, but one uses x2 the amount. So I connect them via the same conveyer belt and split it into both assemblers, but they both receive the same amount rather then 2/1, Is there any way I can filter it so that the conveyer outputs x2 to one side and x1 to the other

I hope that makes sense

[scenic mirage]

DENMARK 🔥 🔥

[scenic mirage]

once one fills up the other will start to fill up

[cunning lily]

And where oil refining is a cultural thing 😉 👌

[brazen goblet]

anyone know of a mod that adds 1m label signs?

there are 2, 3 and 4 m vanilla signs

but no 1m

[mystic oriole]

I think you're looking for a balancer

[scenic mirage]

balancers arent really needed for 99% of situations tho

manifolds are pretty much always the move

[hard ivy]

they already have a balancer. and a 2/1 ratio split is not a balancer

[hot mango]

yes, the 1st splitter will do 3x so feed one side into one machine then join the other 2 to merge to the other machine, that will give you 2/3rds of the original feed rate

[pliant prawn]

I wonder if they'll add composite materials with possible DLC. We have fabric, there's resin, just need paper. And there's plenty of trees for that lol. Maybe carbon fiber

[feral tendon]

Would anyone be able to tell me why my freight car isn't being loaded at the freight station or possible reasons, I have power to the main station and the car is currently empty

[pliant prawn]

Double check that the platform is set to the right load/unload?

[feral tendon]

Yeah it's on Load, I'd assumed it was in refernce to the traincar not the station unless I've got it backwards

[scenic mirage]

they said they wont add DLCs im pretty sure

[pliant prawn]

Hmmmm. Weird. So you got power, the train pulls in, platform is set to load, but doesn't load the empty car?

[pliant prawn]

I thought they said that was actually in the works?

[soft geode]

can someone explain what do 120/min x3 belts of iron ore like ik its some belts of iron but i dont understand the 3x and 120 min

[feral tendon]

Correct, I also have Plastic in the platform but it's not going anywhere I even tried to drive the train all the way out and back into the station manually

[scenic mirage]

maybe but i thought no 😭

[white dawn]

I think it's still an open question. We're still getting free updates for the foreseeable future but I think hypothetical DLC is still a possibility

[sleek kettle]

Is there somewhere to report bugs?

[pliant prawn]

I'm not at my game right now, but when you pull in manually, you can click the load button and still nothing? Odd. Might have to move to #1038092680493801533

[white dawn]

(at least publicly; sounds like they've got their long-term plans in place. Just haven't really announced anything about them yet)

[feral tendon]

I'll look into it a little bit more on my own but I really appreciate your time and input 🙂

[scenic mirage]

🤷‍♂️ i thought they said it wasnt happening

i may be wrong idk

[white dawn]

Heh, I could be wrong too! 🥳

[pliant prawn]

For sure! Keep it chill lol. Happy hunting

[pliant prawn]

Yes! Check the pins for a link. There's a website. Pretty sure it's still active

[scenic mirage]

ppl really hate on that specific phrase and idk why 😭 its so goated

[compact flicker]

Not tired enough to go to bed

Just tired enough to be noticably worse at factory math

[scenic mirage]

sf modeler, sftools, scim

[compact flicker]

calculator and pencil 🥺

[ornate saffron]

I make my biggest blunders when im in that state lol

[real shale]

Time for some ficsit certified coffee break then

[compact flicker]

I forgot to route a whole 480 coal to my turbofuel refinery the other day, and only noticed after I had crammed all the architecture as close to itself as possible

😭

[ornate saffron]

Been there

[compact flicker]

Rocket fuel is gonna be so fun i just know it

[ornate saffron]

Ive never done nuclear because nitro rocket fuel is goated.

Imma force nuclear next play

[compact flicker]

Doing it this way balances out all the yt shorts I scroll every day

[pliant prawn]

I'm forcing nuclear in my current, and frankly I'm just disgusted with the whole thing lol

[ornate saffron]

I do a mix of online calculations, spreadsheets and paper

[compact flicker]

As someone who has yet to do nuclear, I'm gonna make myself use every uranium node on the map and route them all to one giant poweplant

[ornate saffron]

That'll be a project for sure

[pliant prawn]

Kibitz did that. I didn't think you could pay me to try that lol

[compact flicker]

If I had easy access to a spreadsheet or electronic notes, no resource node would stand a chance

[short root]

I am currently doing nuclear for the second time and I am working on it since half a year for one uranium node only.

[neat estuary]

I'd definitely suggest using drone ports to send them to said nuclear plant so you don't have to deal with a bunch of radiation

[ornate saffron]

Google sheets

[real shale]

Obsidian too

[sour ledge]

spicy trains are the best though! traveling along and suddenly you're burning filters... or you take a pause near the train station and come back to your corpse. Good times.

[compact flicker]

The closest PC is on the next floor of my house :p

My phone sucks too so that wouldn't be fun either

[compact flicker]

Play the ASDF clip

"i like trains :3"

[pliant prawn]

Dual monitor supremacy. Or three for me

[neat estuary]

True, I mean I just got into train building and rails, and OMG I HATE THE SIGNAL SYSTEM LOL

[scenic mirage]

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html#_signals

[neat estuary]

The entire server gets ran over with the more efficient train system ever

[sour ledge]

we all hate it a little bit believe me i understand. Once you memorize a set of tracks and intersections you like to use it's fine though!

[compact flicker]

I have yet to place any signal and I have constructed many monorails

[neat estuary]

I understand them on paper, but in practice, everything goes out the window lol

[pliant prawn]

Path in, block out. The train mantra

[neat estuary]

I mean I made a 16 way intersection in a creative world, so hopefully it translates to actually being plugged into a railway

[neat estuary]

That's gotta feel so nice lol

[real shale]

Trains are great, building train lines however......spare my sanity

[pliant prawn]

Meanwhile my dumb ahh doing two way rails lol

[compact flicker]

I just build loops c:

[ornate saffron]

I don't think i could function without two monitors at minimum

[neat estuary]

I have loops too but all the glue eating I did as a kid can only get me so far😔

[ornate saffron]

The crayon lodged in my brain keeps me on a even level

[pliant prawn]

Modern me, yeah. I thought it was a bit of a silly thing when I got my two monitors, and was just being weird when I also hooked up my TV as the third. And now I don't know what to do without them.

[compact flicker]

Some people use tvs

Not even I can stomach that

[neat estuary]

Damn, maybe that's what I've been needing this whole time, only a ficsit approved crayon though

[real shale]

New merch idea, ficsit crayons, but all but one is missing

[pliant prawn]

An entire box of ficsit crayons. 24 shades of orange

[sour ledge]

Blueprints help with that immensely, especially with the autoconnect one. I just have a set of 'intersection' 'rail ramp up' 'rail ramp down' 'rail ramp long' presignalled and everything that i slap end over end. I usually like, modify it per-save (this time it's fancy glass tunnels!) but it gets things along

[neat estuary]

Each crayon comes with a little nibble out of it, free of charge

[pliant prawn]

Early backers of ficsit crayons will also get checkit blue, mercer purple, sloop red, and steel Gray

[neat estuary]

I though the intersection was too large to fit onto a blueprint

[sour ledge]

break 'em into pieces

[compact flicker]

Blueprint autoconnect and train signals

The 2 things I have yet to understand

[sour ledge]

push "r" while placing a blueprint to enable blueprint autoconnect. A little chain link will appear where its trying to connect things, and then you line it up how you like with nudges to make sure its right

so like if you have rails or belts on a blueprint, you turn on auto-connect and it'll... connect 'em, as you place end on end

[pliant prawn]

Planning the links while your building the print is the "hard" part. You just gotta think ahead. I don't do a lot of printing except for highway but it can really help with that

[sour ledge]

im not gonna try to chime in on signals tho - i constantly learn the basics of path in/block out, then start getting fancy with it (not using unneeded path signals) and then screw up and cause a jam somewhere and... yeah.

[neat estuary]

But you have to make sure for manifold systems to keep a belt open at the end so it does auto connect right?

[real shale]

i hate aluminimum water feedback loops so much

[neat estuary]

Are you using the sloppy alumina?

[golden nexus]

use priority pipe

[real shale]

yeah

[lost rapids]

:3

[unkempt blade]

I'm team vibeprinting

[sour ledge]

oh, i don't usually use autoconnect for factory blueprints, just hypertube and rail or long transportation of belts. The autoconnect can get a bit... weird... on where it thinks the connection should be when there are multiple options, so i usually just do the factory blueprinting connections manually

[pliant prawn]

I have to fix them, but my favorite prints are jigs, and my train station chunks. Broke the station into five pieces so I can build them quick. Now that I got the mk3 I can make them really user friendly with some work.... But... ADHD lol

[neat estuary]

Ahhhhhh okay that makes a lot of sense and I could see how it makes things more complicated. But I've been using it in my and it usually works decently well

Okay kinda of topic, but is it just me or do you(anyone) think that satisfactory could make for a really good movement shooter, like I feel like the gun play is so good in the game

[lament vault]

if I have 2 seperate pipe manifolds, can I make them have common loopback pipe or will it create some weird problems?

[hard ivy]

if you have them separate, keep them separate

but also, always try without loopback first. 99% of my pipes work without. less work to add it when necessary than adding it on every single one

[unkempt blade]

I think you could probably just feed the end of one pipifold into the other one and feed them from the open sides and it would work

[neat estuary]

It could create problems but you could easily place a value or unpowered pump to make sure the loop back doesn't flow back into the source

[meager kiln]

i have 600/min plastic on one side of a train... and 550/min demand on the the other... no matter the distance, eventually ill get a surplus right?

[unkempt blade]

the math maths

[meager kiln]

okay thanks, just wanted to make sure. i assume itll just take awhile

[hard ivy]

as long as you don't sink the plastic on the other side

[unkempt blade]

if your train throughput was lower than 550 it wouldn't happen but otherwise it will

[hard ivy]

if the throughput is even lower than 550, then there'll be even bigger surplus

[meager kiln]

oooh... ummm

i am sinking because its a plastic/rubber build. but thats only if i completely fill the station and an industrial storage so i cant imagine tahtll happen

but ill go toss another in as well to be safe

[neat estuary]

If you're sinking a lot of plastic and rubber then maybe try looking into the process of recycling them for even higher production rates, you'll eventually need them

[hard ivy]

no no, sinking excess on the loading side is fine. on the unloading side it's not

[meager kiln]

using the recycled for both, thats why i wanted to sink on production side to be safe so it doesnt backlog one side

[meager kiln]

ahh okay thanks, yup thats what im doing

[hard ivy]

just don't put a sink after the items have been transported by train

[meager kiln]

perfect, im good then

[neat estuary]

Wait why's that, does it cause some problem? Because it's worked for me

[scenic mirage]

unless you just want a fancy sink hub where you transport everything you make to be sinked in one place

[sour ledge]

Honestly might be lookin' at the wrong audience for this question. It might be, but uh... i don't really play movement shooters. Or... shooters. so iunno lol

[hard ivy]

it works, but not if you want excess production to stay on the loading side

[neat estuary]

That's completely fair, I just sometimes play shooters and I just really like the movement on satisfactory

[meager kiln]

so i have production -> prio splitter, prio to storage -> loading station, overflow to sink. then on the receiving side. i have unloading station -> storage -> demand, no sink

[sour ledge]

If you have the sink at the loader-site, say there's plastic going out at 100/m. With your sink at the loader, if you ship 70/m to somewhere else that somewhere else will fill up and only take 70/m plastic, leaving the remaining 30/m free to be loaded and shipped elsewhere.

If you put the sink at the receiving side, it'll instead take as much as its belts allow.

[unkempt blade]

what's the most festive alt recipe?

[neat estuary]

Okay that makes sense, ig I just have all my products low enough that it hasn't been an issue yet

[sour ledge]

yeah, it comes in a lot more if you do large scale production at one site then ship it to multiple factories

like i tend to have 900 plastic and rubber from a single train station; my receiving factories for that don't need 900... or even close, usually.... so i'll send 300 to one, 200 to another, etc.

[neat estuary]

I haven't gotten good enough in the game to do that lol. Jeez, 900 seems insane but I'm probably gonna have to expand to that sooner than later ;-;

[sour ledge]

900 of each is just a single node milked to the max with dilution and recycling actually, but yeah one step at a time lol

[meager kiln]

slooped or just max shards?

[pale dew]

quick question do nuclear reactors need water?

cuz idk how realistic its going to be

[mystic oriole]

yes

[pale dew]

alr ty

[sour ledge]

no sloops - power shards are always optional, just a matter of building more machines

[unkempt blade]

you can also use cherry coke to cool them down

[pale dew]

im pretty sure you can use any liquid as long as its below 30*c

[meager kiln]

wait how u get 900 of each? i was getting 300 of each from a normal oil field at 250%

300 net *

[unkempt blade]

diet sodas will cause a meltdown so you need to be careful of those

[pale dew]

What

how

its liquid after all

[sour ledge]

it takes a ton of water but you can turn 600 crude oil into 800 heavy oil residue, then turn that into 1600 fuel. Then with the recycling rubber/plastic recipes, one plastic+1 fuel = 2 rubber, as well as one rubber+1 fuel = 2 plastic. So you go back and forth a couple times and end up at 900 of each as maximum output... of 1800 of just one, or however you wanna split it.

[hard ivy]

600 oil turns into 900 plastic + 900 rubber with the right alts

[vale quail]

does any one have a link to the satisfactory q&a website

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @hard ivy

[vale quail]

thanks bot

[hard ivy]

I'm so fast they thought the bot reacted to their message 💀

[meager kiln]

ohhhh i was JUST using diluted fuel, rubber, recycled rubber/plastic. i didnt do the extra heavy

[sour ledge]

that Satisfactory Discord AI is impressive yo - powered by KYO297

[meager kiln]

oh wow i see. wow.... this is cool

that extra steps adds a lot

[sour ledge]

yeah, you can use the same concept to do ridiculous power production too

[scenic mirage]

what AI lmao

[meager kiln]

im about to do that now actually. im bumping against my current 22GW

[sour ledge]

that's the joke

[meager kiln]

thats gonna help out soooooo much

was goign to use turbo fuel isntead of regular fuel, any reason not to?

[sour ledge]

i usually skip turbo fuel and wait until i can do rocket fuel to upgrade, but it won't hurt ya any

there's an alt recipe for rocket fuel that just makes it easier to do

[hard ivy]

you can get 20 GW from 600 oil without it

the effort per MW is comparable between the 2. turbo just exchanges oil for sulfur and coal

[meager kiln]

hmm mabye ill skip turbo then, i CAN unlock rocket now

[sour ledge]

so long as you can get nitrogen gas to your power station, that's the only additional raw ingredient you need to upgrade to rocket fuel

[meager kiln]

im seeing ionized fuel too though in the mam.. is it worth to skip rocket and go right ther?

[hard ivy]

no it is not 😆

ionized is terrible for power

[meager kiln]

perfect

[sour ledge]

ionized is incredible for the jetpack though. I like to setup a single machine + packager next to my rocket fuel production that sends packaged ionized to a dimensional depot and just let it "idle" whenever the depot is full

[meager kiln]

i like that

[vale quail]

The reason I was asking for the website because I wanted to pitch an idea you know how screws already come in boxes after sending iron rod though the constructor I wanted my idea to sound kinda challenging like instead of that how about a recipe for the container for the screws like make it out of plastic and iron rods and then send it through the assembler to make screws

[sour ledge]

that way it effectively bleeds off slightly from my power production to keep me fueled whenever i need a stack, but otherwise it's not wasting effort (or power shards, since they aren't usually automated by this point) making ionized

[sour ledge]

... You're a monster.

[meager kiln]

gotcha gtocha, ill coem back to that in a min, gonna start the rocket fuel, but i gotta go hunting first

not sure if i wanna tear down my original oil power then, probably worth it

[hard ivy]

just build at a different spot

[meager kiln]

ya probably better, kk will do

[hard ivy]

blue crater and the western half of the spire coast are good spots for rocket fuel. I guess the swamp works too

[scenic mirage]

bruh how tf do you use aluminum's water byproduct as an ingredient in sloppy alumina

[hard ivy]

a VIP, packagers and a prio merger, or a split setup

[scenic mirage]

VIP?

[hard ivy]

variable input priority junction - a prio merger for liquids

[upper saddle]

Anyone know the command for removing snow/weather particles? The snow is making my DLSS/Frame Gen shit itself

[hard ivy]

it's in the plumbing manual pinned in #math-and-meta

[scenic mirage]

i have 4 refineries tho and they each output the same amount of water, would that work

[shrewd hatch]

it rains and snows now?

[real shale]

For the Ficsmas event it snows yeah

[shrewd hatch]

when rain event

[hard ivy]

A VIP always works, if built correctly
-# until 1.2 breaks it (hopefully not)

[shrewd hatch]

if there is snow that means there must be water

[upper saddle]

no rain

[shrewd hatch]

when rain

[upper saddle]

with it disabled there are still these weird white/leaf particles

[scenic mirage]

🙏 yolo ive been tryna figure this out for too long already\

[real shale]

OHHHH the snowballs are nobelisks... i see now lmao

part of me thought it was rifle ammo or something lmao

[neat estuary]

Nitroglycerin snow, my favorite!

[hot mango]

😆

[real shale]

man i need to mass produce nuke nobelisks when i get to nuclear

just seeing that flash of light gives a dopamine hit

[hot mango]

i have my nuke oblisk factory at the swamp

nice place to get evcerything you need

[upper saddle]

#screenshots message

[pale dew]

whats the max distance for drone

[upper saddle]

with ficmas enabled it's like 20x more particles

[real shale]

as far as your fuel can take you

[pale dew]

oh makes sense

[upper saddle]

frame gen is really bad with weather effects in most games currently

[pale dew]

i hope 100 packaged fuel can go 2600m total

[real shale]

you know what, im printing out a copy of this alt recipe guide

its wayy too long for me and i need to see the whole thing at once

[pale dew]

mmmm now i have a radioactive drone flyin thru the air

[neat estuary]

Spicy air force

[pale dew]

hell yeha

[real shale]

huh i dont have the leached iron ingot recipe yet, damn

[scenic mirage]

gotta get hunting then\

[meager kiln]

is leached worth it? its sitting in my list atm

[neat estuary]

It's the highest iron ingot output alt if I remember correctly

[hard ivy]

the only leached recipe I would even consider using is leached caterium

[ornate saffron]

If you have no plans that require the limited resources of sulfer its worth it

[real shale]

yeah with an added level of complexity in comparison to pure

its 100 per min looking at the recipe reference guide

[neat estuary]

Honestly there's so many iron nodes that you really don't need it

[ornate saffron]

I feel the same way. I usually do pure iron. But I get sick of refineries lol

[real shale]

im actually making use of that now, although I have made a blunder and not realised i dont have a dimensional depot for iron rods yet lol

was just checking through my iron ingot recipes when i noticed i didnt have leached yet

[neat estuary]

Ya refineries are very annoying to build with, just big and clunky imo

[real shale]

pipes my beloved

[neat estuary]

Has it been confirmed or not that we're getting a Mk3 pipe in 1.2?

[green fiber]

refinery PTSD is just something one has to get over.
Tired of refinery spam? pick something else

[meager kiln]

holy crap , just used rocket fuel in my jetpack for the first time, this is going to take awhile to get used to...

[real shale]

they've already said they arent adding extra tiers of pipes iirc

[ornate saffron]

Its just the visual for me. I think imma make a big blueprint that hides them all.

[green fiber]

no, mk 3 has been deconfirmed a long time ago

[hard ivy]

no, and I doubt we're getting that ever

[green fiber]

the system cant do it

[real shale]

all we know so far is fluid trucks and fluids rework

but mk3 pipes were said to never be happening a long time ago

[green fiber]

did they really rework fluids tho

[neat estuary]

That's fair too, I usually just have a pit my processing goes into and then cover it all up

[real shale]

they've said theyve "fixed them, sorta"

[hard ivy]

we don't really know the latter

but we do know we're getting at least one new game mode

[ornate saffron]

1.2 apperently

[neat estuary]

Big sadge

[green fiber]

that can mean anything

[real shale]

we are?

[ornate saffron]

Ill give that a go. Im currently in the brainstorming and planning phase of my next playthrough

[hard ivy]

yes. likely shuffled node locations, though that has only been teased, not really confirmed

[scenic mirage]

can the pumps be vertical or does it have to be horizontal

[real shale]

a sandbox mode would be nice

[neat estuary]

If you want I can try and get some screenshots of my factory and you can see how you like it, although I will say I'm horrible at actually decorating lol

[scenic mirage]

there is one

[real shale]

there is??

[neat estuary]

There's a creative mode

[real shale]

i've never noticed it lmao

[neat estuary]

Lol that's totally fair

You just have to go into the advanced settings when starting a new world

[peak plank]

train signals are ruining my life

[hard ivy]

I would recommend building it exactly like this: #math-and-meta message
this is my standard design that works every time.

[ornate saffron]

Appreciate the offer. I may reach out at somepoint.

[real shale]

oh, i didnt touch advanced because of the risk of achievements lockout

[magic rune]

...steam, i'm fairly sure there was not a game update, why do you keep downloading a gigabyte of SF data every morning

[real shale]

there was a game update today

#patch-notes

[magic rune]

for the past five consecutive days...?

[scenic mirage]

id need 3 layers tho right? each refinery outputs 291 water

[neat estuary]

Ya ofc, always happy to help and try to have a sensible factory lol

[real shale]

well not for the past 5 days but there was one today

[scenic mirage]

i need 1942 water/min and i have 1165 water/min as a byproduct

[ornate saffron]

I find this game all consuming. So I try not to play when I need to be social or I have responsibilities

[tribal ingot]

I'm just curious if there is somewhere you guys recommend renting a server from, for this game. Hosting one isn't something me or my friends want to undertake. So just wondering if there is a best place.

[neat estuary]

I've been able to still get achievements after I started a creative world

[real shale]

huh, i thought everything except arachnophobia mode locked you out of achievements

[magic rune]

i'm almost thinking steam is trying to actively fight me having a modded game (it doesn't do this for games with workshop-based mods, like ETS2)

[neat estuary]

The factory MUST grow, this is law across the world lol

[peak plank]

Why does a block signal need at least two posts? why cant it just block the track its on ?

[neat estuary]

I mean in that world you won't get achievements but in a regular survival playthrough, you'll be fine

[real shale]

oh

[ornate saffron]

Just get all the achievements if you care about them. Then you are free

[real shale]

trying to

[magic rune]

spidercat mode isn't an AGS thing, just a graphical censor. and AGS disables achievements on a per-world basis, flagging that world, not the entire player profile

[real shale]

phase 4 is definitely a step up and my adhd brain keeps doing everything else other than progression

[neat estuary]

Yaaaaa that's for sure, I just barely got my aluminum factory finished and all set up

[ornate saffron]

Honestly.... Last playthrough I just bought everything from the awesome shop to get to phase 5. Then my adhd brain was free to take its time lol

[neat estuary]

That's what I did for phase 5, there's so many complex things in there I just said screw it lol

[real shale]

it took me days to get RCUs automated lmaooo

[neat estuary]

But buying from the shop makes getting the nut statue sooooo much harder

[pale dew]

i can go for 15 nuclear reactors

worth?

[magic rune]

i'm just glad mods don't disable cheevos... and i actually think it's hilarious that in cities skylines 1, where modding "does" turn them off, literally the first mod to be released on the steam workshop was "you can get achievements with mods enabled" 🤣

[real shale]

me too, i only have one mod on and its cartograph because i like seeing everything i've placed

also great to a world wide view of just how spaghetti your factory actually is lmao

[neat estuary]

You'll probably want to double your rcu out put, they're so useful with alts

[real shale]

I'm considering automating more for supercomputers

but right now im on a QoL run because so many things are just annoying me

[ornate saffron]

Nuclear tools need them too

[hard ivy]

A VIP is limited to 1 output, so 600/min. you're gonna need several anyway

[real shale]

i only managed to get 13/min automated which isnt great but at least its automated for now

[neat estuary]

That's efficiency for you, everything must be working at 100%

[magic rune]

...i could've sworn i had installed that... ohhh, "Damaged on Stable: significantly messes with texture loading in 1.1"

[ornate saffron]

You can/ will automate more elsewhere

[magic rune]

important tactic: all those machines you use to make storage containers of stuff for personal use... once those containers are full, their miner capacity is available for other use

[ornate saffron]

Personally I don't mix personal use and automation use.

[magic rune]

i've currently got a three-stage steel factory where once the beams/pipes/reinfbeams are full, it sends the ingots upward to make motors and motor accessories... and once those are full, it'll send those pipes (and reinfbeams) to make HMFs

[pale dew]

what the hell do i do with uranium waste

i aint got no particle accelerator

[magic rune]

eh, maybe. i meant more of, personal use can then be forwarded to more personal use

[hard ivy]

store it or turn it into plutonium rods

[neat estuary]

You can make it into plutonium or make a radiation farm

[shrewd hatch]

3 pieces of snow btw

[real shale]

feed it to a lizard doggo and jump pad it off a cliff

[shrewd hatch]

5*

[neat estuary]

Okay let's game it out

[pale dew]

NO

NO NO NO

[real shale]

hey say what you want, the guy did contribute to the games optimisation efforts

lol

[neat estuary]

But the doggos will be able to finally get hops like a basketball

[neat estuary]

He basically demanded that they optimize lol, that's his whole thing.

[shrewd hatch]

is it possible to breed dogs

[pale dew]

like why cant there be a breeder reactor

[magic rune]

LGIO is the "but can it be played by the crysis guy" of factory games

[scenic mirage]

would it not be a VOP not VIP

[pale dew]

for easier uranium waste disposal

[hard ivy]

tf do you need output priority for?

the point of using a VIP is to use byproduct water before adding fresh water

[scenic mirage]

😭
4 refineries, each output 291.317 water/min

4 refineries, each need 485.528 water/min

idk man im tired

[wind bluff]

Hey Quick question is there maybe an way to disable the Spiders in the game after launching the server without starting an new game? Maybe via the console.

[neat estuary]

.... Why do you have it set to such a painful ratio?

[ornate saffron]

Just shunt the water output into a pure recipe or wet concrete

[hot mango]

loop the waste water back in

[scenic mirage]

im space maxxing not ratio optimizing

space minimizing idk

[pale dew]

ratio maxing >

[short root]

Real example: Factory A needs sulfuric acid and outputs sulfuric acid. Factory B needs sulfuric acid. Factory A outputs more than Factory B needs. Factory A gets sulfuric acid from Factory C. Now: Factory A has a VOP output, with priority to B and remainder to A itself which goes into a VIP with priority from A itself and C for the remainder.
I have yet to verify that it really works. It's in the making... But it should!

[scenic mirage]

well yes thats what im trying to do but idk how the VIP works

[hot mango]

VIP?

[short root]

Variable Input Priority

[hard ivy]

2+ inputs, 1 output. the lower the input on the stack, the higher priority it has (and the fluid from higher inputs is used if and only if all the lower ones are insufficient to fill the output)

though I have never used a VIP with more than 2 inputs

for aluminium 2 is all you need. one for byproduct water, one for fresh

[short root]

I have one with three inputs which works.

For aluminium and battery combined production.

[meager kiln]

nitro rocket fuel is insane... 6 buildings is goign to feed enough fuel gen to double or triple my current setup

[scenic mirage]

hows that possible tho pipes are limited to 600/min and i need more than triple that

[hard ivy]

... 4 (or more) VIPs

[hot mango]

well i never used VIP, i found that if your water pumps are set too high it stops the flow from the output, thats the only problem i had with a looped system, that was on an alloy factory with 3 refineries

[sour ledge]

is there a way to do an exclusion filter when dismantling/customizing? So for example I want it to select everything except the foundations

[magic rune]

an easier way than VIP (which is dependent on quirks of the fluid engine rather than a hard defined feature like belt-related things), is to have a separate aluminum-inator that is ONLY fed by waste water, clocked to use the exact amount of waste water

[hard ivy]

select everything, filter for foundations, deselect them

[sour ledge]

ah i guess that'll work - i was hoping to just sweepingly paint everything without the tedium of going in and fixing the foundations, doing it that way i still do have to go in and deselect the foundations... but ah well, c'est la vi

[scenic mirage]

would be great but im trying to cram as many buildings as possible into as little space as possible. so thats 4 refineries, and to do that id need more

[weary yoke]

I am agonisingly upset that console release for satisfactory doesnt have mods

[sour ledge]

really gotta remind myself to set customizer defaults earlier in my playthroughs...

[sour ledge]

oh it doesn't? rough, mods for it are really good

[weary yoke]

Yeah, it sucks ass aswell cause rhe game itself is so good

[upper saddle]

i have ficsmas disabled

[weary yoke]

But everyone gets it for the mods

[sour ledge]

you have to live without a grappling hook. im so sorry.

[weary yoke]

I mean, I get a jetpack

[somber narwhal]

how do i make a train that doesnt need a complete loop and can go back and forth to 2 stations

[weary yoke]

[sour ledge]

believe me its just not the same. superman cna fly, but spiderman swinging is just more fun!

[upper saddle]

i dont understand why this game has so many hdr tweaks but it's all hidden behind .ini files and console commands

crazy i didnt think to look for this until recently

[sour ledge]

train on each end of the freight car, pointing forward and back.

[golden nexus]

put locos on both end of the train, make sure stations are pointed away from each other

[sour ledge]

and uh, if you ever end up with multiple trains on that track keep in mind that the signalling madness and crash potential will be extreme.

[somber narwhal]

okay thanks

[primal obsidian]

if you are planning on putting more then one train on that system just dont and make it 2 lanes instead btw

[magic rune]

absolutely, all main train lines should be a pair of one-way tracks in opposite directions

[meager kiln]

is it stupid to sloop my 1 rocket fuel plant? planning out a 100GW plant and it would make it super easy

[sour ledge]

nah, you've got roughly ~100 sloops to play with. if you wanna throw some at it there s'fine

[meager kiln]

awesome, thanks

[sour ledge]

people don't tend to plan for slooping 'cause you can't sloop every factory and it's always more optimal on a later factory.... until you finish the game. but i mean you may as well use the tools available sometimes

[meager kiln]

makes sense. i havent slooped anythign else yet so why not

[sour ledge]

i usually use my sloops temporarily, to fill up manifolds

[magic rune]

one thing you should always sloop, is a dedicated constructor somewhere that you manually switch between power shards and alien goo. you'll get 2x shards and 4x goo (corpse to meat, meat to dna can) out of it

[shrewd igloo]

why are steam installs so doodoo like 2gb upd taking forever and my wifi is gud

[meager kiln]

i did do that for shards, ahvent done goo at all though

[sour ledge]

speaking of which actually: Like all large fuel plants getting a large rocket fuel plant to full capacity takes forever to fill up all the pipes and reach a balance. If you leave yourself some leeway in the pipes and sloop it over what it can consume you can get that power production line flat much quicker. I know it bothers me to have my power wiggle...

[sour ledge]

yeah those are the biggest uses for sloops for sure. If you can spare 7 you can actually just do a sushi belt array where you throw all your slugs/monster bits at once and let it work itself out lol

[magic rune]

you don't need to have separate lines for it, just have one constructor (and an input and output container, ideally), and manually swap recipes on it for blue/yellow/purple slugs, then the four corpse types, then meat to cans

[magic rune]

from my understanding, it's because unreal is non-deterministic in where in a compiled executable it'll put individual blobs of code, even if you compile the exact same game project several times, you'll get wildly different (but functionally identical) output exes... and steam being a delta-patching update system, doesn't like that

[normal dagger]

do we have crossplay by any chance?

would like to play with friend on ps5

[scenic mirage]

nope

[meager kiln]

gotcha, i play on passive mode cuase well i dont wanna fight lol so i dont have much in the corpse dept

[magic rune]

unity games are the same way, even obenseuer updates with a one-liner changelog will be several hundred megabytes simply because the asset files came out in a different order of data chunks

[normal dagger]

any plans to implement cross platform?

[shrewd igloo]

the acctual download was quick but that update was super long

[hard ivy]

XBox with PS5 and Steam with Epic do have crossplay, but not XBox/PS5 with Steam/Epic

[normal dagger]

any plans to add this in the long run?

[scenic mirage]

you could also just say consoles can play w consoles and pc w pc

[golden nexus]

A lot of game files are often compressed they are basically a zip file. If you make even a small change to a file and recompute it you change the whole file.

[magic rune]

could be licensing issues with the platform owners? i know that's why a lot of games aren't fully cross-play... even minecraft bedrock edition was fragmented for a long time

[golden nexus]

chances are the consoles won't keep up with a PC game

[magic rune]

ah yes, my favorite computing trope: "everything's a zip file, just with weird extensions"

[golden nexus]

pak files are just that 🙂

[normal dagger]

uh? isn't it the same game?

[hard ivy]

unknown. not anytime soon but they aren't saying they'll never add it

[normal dagger]

aight

[golden nexus]

The amount of processing power on a console is a fraction of what is on a pc

[reef basin]

no

[normal dagger]

yea i know that

[golden nexus]

Like I am sittingon a PC here which is 5 years old but have 4x the ram of a PS5

[normal dagger]

but gameplay wise shouldn't be a difference right?

[tame bobcat]

bit of a new player but
is iron wire + stitched iron plate or cast screws + bolted iron plate better for RIP production

[golden nexus]

the console dies...

can't keep up in a PC game with multiple players.

[normal dagger]

tell me about it man.... i was kinda planning a new rig somewhere second half of next year.

but guess that aint happening 🙁

[magic rune]

my funniest discovery was that Heaven Studio's .riq files are just zips, too. apparently linux also treats windows exes as potentially unzippable, if you try to launch them from file explorer rather than via proton or similar

[normal dagger]

my 32gig DDR4 and 5800x3D will have to keep working for a few more years.

[golden nexus]

Even PC's, Servers, Netcode struggles in late game with small builds

[normal dagger]

together with a 3080. honestly not a bad system by any means, but with newer games its starting to show its age

[golden nexus]

Linux is more funny. It works on the bases of a file signature to determine if its an exe or if will be opened with something unique

you can register / unregister these with the kernel

[tame bobcat]

hey guys
is iron wire + stitched iron plate or cast screws + bolted iron plate better for RIP production

[golden nexus]

yes

they are not better / worse they are different / tradeoffs

[scenic mirage]

@hard ivy i think i got it working but nah it looks scary

#screenshots message

[tame bobcat]

ah i see alright

[golden nexus]

Tower on the left is bolted plate 😛 #screenshots message

[golden nexus]

easy to do like this tbh #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

I don't see a point in using bolted recipes without steel screws. Expensive, take up more space, more power required. Straight up garage

[golden nexus]

You use cast screw, not steel screw

[tame bobcat]

DAMN

[golden nexus]

Mostly because bolted plate wants 250 and cast screw makes 50 per constructor

[tame bobcat]

cast screw is the recipe that turns ingots into screws (might have got the name wrong mb)

[hard ivy]

If you do that, it's terrible

With steel screws, you at least save some space. With cast, you don't get any benefits over stitched + iron wire

[golden nexus]

So you can see why i use bolted plate above. You feed the building on ingot and turn it into rplate ontop of the node

[golden nexus]

Space? You see the tower right? Its a 5x5 footprint for 50/min rplate....

[tame bobcat]

might have to steal that design lol that looks pretty good

[golden nexus]

I have a few of them... #screenshots message

[reef basin]

that depends how you define "better"

[tame bobcat]

more within a minute

[reef basin]

that's just "how many buildings you build"

[tame bobcat]

but both use 2 constructors and 1 assembler, im just asking which recipes i should assign

[golden nexus]

I do them that way because it suits my build style. But also dumping a tower on a node just coverts the entire node to a different thing eg rplate or rotor.... so you can put the entire tower directly above the miner if you want

[tame bobcat]

i do have both so i could always just mix and match tbf lol

[reef basin]

that depends which resources you wanna use

[golden nexus]

if you have bolted, do it because it saves power. In some of thoose they are underclocked.

[tame bobcat]

wdym they use iron

[golden nexus]

it also depends on which stage of the game you are at

[reef basin]

they can use almost anything, depending on other recipes in the chain

[golden nexus]

some of those towers are mk3 miners.

But even with a common floor design with iron wire + plate on the same floor you can adjust it to switch from one recipie to the other so long as everything takes ingots... its something to consider

[primal obsidian]

how tall is height limit in this game

[reef basin]

~2km

[hard ivy]

idk what to tell you, stitched + iron wire takes less iron, less space and less power than cast + bolted

[golden nexus]

You used all the iron nodes on the map?

Has ANYONE used all the iron nodes on the map?

[primal obsidian]

oh ok good i wont run into issues buyilding skyscraper

[golden nexus]

these towers in back are onot near the limit.... #screenshots message

[primal obsidian]

at around 160m rn

[hard ivy]

how is that relevant when cast + bolted is straight up worse than stitched + iron in every major aspect? I don't see any practical reason to choose to use it

[golden nexus]

its not and you have not considered all the major aspects

[reef basin]

that's common here

[golden nexus]

depends what you optimize for

[primal obsidian]

probably gonna reach 200m maximum

[hard ivy]

in which major aspect is bolted + cast better?

[plain osprey]

any idea if there is cross play for cosole and PC?

[spark wedge]

HI guys!, how works Snow Balls?

[hard ivy]

They're nobelisks

[spark wedge]

Ah

Thanks

[plain osprey]

so no crossplay, the steam page says cross-platform tho

[golden nexus]

For 45/min rplate. Bolted plate = 3 assemblers (75MW), Stitched = 8 (120MW). Your trading power for iron....

Your also trading space

[hard ivy]

ah, yes, ignoring the power and space it takes to make the ingredients

[golden nexus]

you are ignoring them? or you telling me i am ignoring them?

[hard ivy]

you are lol

[golden nexus]

3 Assmblers need less space than 8 assemblers...

[hard ivy]

the ingredients

plates, screws/wire, ingots

[golden nexus]

Yes. You need 8 assemblers which need 2 wire constructors each. thats 16 con. and you need 8 con for the plates. = 24 con
Bolted = 3 Assemblers Which need 250 screw each. This needs 15 con + 13.5 Con. = 28 Con (you have the space of 5 Assmblers worth to put 4 constructors)

Bolted plate actually uses less space.

So this goes back to "You have not considered all the aspects" #satisfactory message

[hard ivy]

how are you calculating which takes more space when you aren't even including how much space each building takes up 😆

[golden nexus]

Are assemblers bigger than constructors?

So the delta of the 2 builds is to remove 5 stitched plate assemblers and replace them with 4 plate constructors. So the build is smaller

This is also why the power is a lot better, Since the 5x15MW is removed and replaced with 4x4MW

[hard ivy]

I calculated it exactly, bolted + cast uses 80 m2 per plate per min, stitched + iron uses 76 (for the machines)

[golden nexus]

So thats based on what floor layout?

[hard ivy]

though for power, if it's perfectly ratioed, bolted plate does use a little less 317 MJ/RIP vs 340 of stitched

[hard ivy]

based on the footprint the machines take up?

[golden nexus]

But the space isn't the same either cause you have calcualted it based on the foorprint of the machines. But neglected that the extra 5 assmblers required 5x the belt work of the 4xconstructors. Since all the assmblers require assitional splitters

Also.. bolted the numbers are even.. stitched almost never comes out even... it always X + change

So stitched nearly never goes well with any other recipie

Bolted plate for example fits perfectly with bolted frame. Since each bolted frame wants 7.5/min rplate. You can also do a direct ingot build from ingot -> plate -> rplate -> frame and it works out to take an even number of ingots

which also slot in perfectly with HMF recipies

Heavy encased frame = 7.5/min which is what bolted frame produces

[hearty saffron]

Why is glados here

[golden nexus]

CO wants 2.5/min. So at 15/min rplate you get 6CO/min

[shrewd igloo]

if i make miner mk2s im gonna need to increase number of smelterys and constructors and assemblers on my build wont i?

[golden nexus]

You need to look at all aspects, including downstream recipies...

[golden nexus]

it doubles speed yes

[shrewd igloo]

i jus spent 3 hours building a full iron factory

my first factory i made 😢

[golden nexus]

Duplicate hte factory? Then split the output of the miner to both?

[shrewd igloo]

i have to build the whole thing again then

[golden nexus]

Well it depends if you need the output or not

[hard ivy]

the question is: do the tiny differences in space and power consumption matter when the iron consumption is 50% more, and that transfers to bolted frame

plus, if we add frames, bolted + bolted + cast gets much worse than steeled + stitched + iron in terms of both power and space

[golden nexus]

I actually find stitched plate works well early game < mk3 belts. But late game rplate towers is the way to go

[shrewd igloo]

i mean im only producing rotors at half speed because my screw output isnt enough and my smart plating is as 60 percent full capacity

[golden nexus]

Iron is free. Like grass fields has 44,000 iron it in or something

[hard ivy]

you still have to put in effort to get the 50% more nodes. which are increasingly farther away

[golden nexus]

Like your getting 50/min rplate on 2ximpure nodes with mk3 miner

[primal obsidian]

dang it i need another floor

[golden nexus]

Yeah.. you get concrete supply issues with my method

Same method but for 300/min stator #screenshots message

[lost oasis]

soo why does my nuclear reactor says no power when its connected to power already

[hard ivy]

it doesn't consume power

I think it says no power when it has no fuel

[meager kiln]

if i go to make a belt and it says too long, is there a key to lock it where it at and just build what it can?

[primal obsidian]

it does show that when either no fuel rods or no water are in the reactor

[lost oasis]

okay what do i need tho

i got uranium cells so far

[primal obsidian]

H locks builds in place and lets you nudge them using arrow keys

[primal obsidian]

uranium fuel rods are what you need

[lost oasis]

how to make them? im new to this

[golden nexus]

just do the other 80% of the nuclear fuel supply

[primal obsidian]

cant remember off the top of my head but press O and search it up

in game

i think its control rods and encased beams and fuel cells

[meager kiln]

ya but for belts, wasnt sure if i could just lock and do whatever it coudl :/

[primal obsidian]

i think you can

[true mulch]

!wikisearch UFR

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=UFR

[lost oasis]

ywahh i see thanks

[true mulch]

the wiki is your friend

[lost oasis]

But damn these are faar from my nuclear shittt

[primal obsidian]

[lost oasis]

right.

but trains are slow as balls lowkey

[golden nexus]

now you get why i said do the other 80%

[primal obsidian]

im pretty sure trains are faster then other vehicles

[hard ivy]

120 km/h is slow?

[lost oasis]

Yeahh

[primal obsidian]

and in terms of throughput the only faster way is belting things im pretty sure

[hard ivy]

Not really. You can push 10s or possibly even 100s of 1000s of items/min over a single rail (plus a rail to get the trains back)

[primal obsidian]

yeah but if you have one freight platform and one freight car belting will be faster

[true mulch]

well then the issue is that you have one freight car lol

[hard ivy]

You can still get over 1 belt out of a single platform

[primal obsidian]

really

[true mulch]

trains don't work very well for low throughput, drones are for that

I mean you can use them, but it's a lot of overhead which could be spent on a high-throughput line instead

[magic rune]

oh hooray, i've finally finished automating motors (bless steel rotor recipe), now i can finally begin with oil and oil accessories

[primal obsidian]

trains are cool though why would i not use them for everything even if i need to transfer less then a stack/min

[feral tendon]

I had my stations turned the wrong way lmao

[crude estuary]

Drone sucks cause you need liquid energy which are not everywhere, like gasoline ...

i'm using more train than before in my current game

tchoo tchoo mf*

[tender ermine]

You can nuclear fuel drones, no?

[crude estuary]

WHAT YOU SAY????

we can ?

[golden nexus]

yeah nuclear powered drones work

nuclear powered trucks as well

[tender ermine]

They're radioactive but yeah

[crude estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wow-you-dont-say-michael-office-wow-michael-scott-gif-11124235989547302113

[hard ivy]

the theoretical max throughput of a platform is ```
32s

32s 27.08
--- + -----
2b 60

which is always more than `b`, which is the belt speed used to load/unload the platform (and `s` is the stack size of the item being loaded)

[crude estuary]

i need to bring nitrogen next to my aluminium factory

but uranium is not THAT far ...

[primal obsidian]

so if i belt in 2 max belts i will get more then 1 max belt of throughput

[crude estuary]

tonight is my girlfrien Christmas party ... gonna think about that while drinking rhum and whiskey ...

head that place got a rhum room ...

[hard ivy]

more than 1, less than 2. the exact number depends on the belt speed and stack size. and that assumes you use a buffer (ISC) on the platform and that you have enough trains to actually move that many items and they're all set to only depart when empty/full. like I said, theoretical max 😆

[sick falcon]

where do i start making a train network, its so overwhelming

[zenith pecan]

Depends on what you want from it, sone folks build rail stations etc under factories.

[hard ivy]

that's why you don't "build a train network". you build individual connections that you need and they eventually turn into a network

[zenith pecan]

My last one was on the roof of a refinery.

Also leave space in order to allow expansion and new lines.

[golden nexus]

we know nothing about you world, but you build them to meet your needs as you grow your factories. this is me importing crude oil and aliminimum fr example #screenshots message

[lusty island]

It depends on your plans. I've done earlier saves where i did point-to-point trains for specific needs. As i progressed, and understood what i needed better, i'd build a longer dual-track line connecting a few key locations.

Now, my bujilds typically include a massive multi-lane loop around the island, with feeder lines coming off of it, and i pause everything else once i'm at a point i can build the core loop, and the entire save is based on that loop.

[zenith pecan]

I'm not at home so getting my example of rail on mobile discord is a pain.

[empty junco]

anyone know where I can find patch notes for this latest update?

[lusty island]

in #patch-notes

[empty junco]

lol ty just saw that. not sure why it didn't appear in steam

[cyan plover]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/557603412565426196

I have spent HOURS watching youtube videos over and over. And I cannot get signals to work correctly on my train rail. Its not even remotely complex. Its T junctions! I am at the give up point.

[hard ivy]

make a #1038092680493801533 thread with pictures and someone will help

signals are a bit janky now so it's not surprising

[cyan plover]

thanks, just joined here as final act of desperation. Ill check it out.

[zenith pecan]

I'm not much good with signalling, my trains setups have always been the simple bi-directional affairs rather than the more complex ьуецзкы.

[hard ivy]

bi-di is anything but simple. unless there's only one train on each rail

[zenith pecan]

Urgh, networks even, mistaken swipe on my spacebar swapped to cyrillic, and I typed gibberish!

[lusty island]

i treat my train systems like a road network. rails go in one direction. I avoid crossing tracks as much as possible, and instead do on & off ramp style. Results in more train throughput due to not using path signals (and it's easier to understand)

[unkempt blade]

it's not too difficult as long as you remember to have a single big block for the bidirectional segment so trains will properly wait for access and not block things

[strong fiber]

I got a question why isn’t my train unloading

Nevermind im just stupid

Forgot to set to unload

[glacial mountain]

reaaaal quick question, is the ficsmas stuff gonna stay once it's over? or like how's it gonna work after

[strong fiber]

How do u nudge on console

I did it before but cant remember how

[white dawn]

Yes, everything you've placed will remain on the map. Gift Trees will stop producing, though, and machines with FICSMAS recipes will stop producing as well. You won't be able to place any new FICSMAS buildables on the map, though snowballs. candy cane basher, and ||fireworks|| (yet to be unlocked) will still be usable

[glacial mountain]

Thank you

[nimble jungle]

what is the best way to distribute liquids with pipes, i'm currently at oil energy production, and i have this problem where sometimes the liquids dont really flow equally, i tried fixing it with valves but it doesnt help.

[reef basin]

the trick is to not to try forcing water to flow equally, instead just connect things and fill it up

[nimble jungle]

so i just place those 2 gens i can feed with fuel, wait till they are full and then start them?

[reef basin]

yeah

[nimble jungle]

wonderful

[gentle lion]

Access to blenders now should I get the alt turbo fuel recipe

Also which fuel is best for drone.

[strong fiber]

gotta make compacted coal and packaged fuel bruh

And packaged turbofuel

To get rocket fuel to start on my plant

BUT before all that gotta make 5 radio control unit/min

And before ALL that gotta fix my aluminum casing train cuz i need 80/min and it only brings 69/min

[peak plank]

Is there a mod that just disables train collusions ? I re-did my whole network so the rails were farther apart and I still cant get signals to work. Ruining the game for me. Easily the least intuitive thing in the game. I'd just prefer they work without all this BS

[strong fiber]

Any ideas to make my aluminum casing train have higher throughput?

[lunar python]

More freight cars!

[strong fiber]

wdym

[golden nexus]

ship ingots and make the casing where its consumed

[strong fiber]

But how would that help

[golden nexus]

ahh i though it was inflator recipie my bad

[lunar python]

Considering you use more ingots for fewer casings, it wouldnt

[hard ivy]

that's gonna make the throughput 3x worse lol

[golden nexus]

i know 🙂

[strong fiber]

I dont wanna make more casings

[golden nexus]

how much casing you talking about here and whats it used for? it might work the other way around... rather than move the casing, move the other thing to consum to where the casing is

[strong fiber]

Its used for radio control units i need 80 casings/min and have 69/min throughput rn

[hard ivy]

how far are you bringing it if it only manages 70/min 😆

or is that just how much you're making

[strong fiber]

Im making 80

Or atleast i should be

[golden nexus]

yeah reverse it... its 40/min casing... but 2.5/min comps and 1.25/min CO.....

[strong fiber]

Probably should double check

[golden nexus]

Thats what? 20x improvement?

Which RCU recipie

[strong fiber]

My are two tracks on the same block even though they don’t overlap

[lunar python]

You can add industrial storage containers on the input and output of the freight stations to buffer when they are loading the trains, it really helps alot

[strong fiber]

If i could fix that issue then the trains would be alot faster

[strong fiber]

I already have buffer bins

[dry vessel]

200 hours and ive only just completed phase 2, i done like what i see 💔

[golden nexus]

wold need to see track/station

[golden nexus]

offf thats slow

[hard ivy]

yeah, that's probably the issue here. for a train to only manage 70/min of an item stackable to 200, the route would have to take one and a half hours

[strong fiber]

Do u know what causes it

[golden nexus]

i know trains yeee

[strong fiber]

Its not though🙏

[dry vessel]

would it be a dumb idea to try manually make phase 2 parts so i can get that mk2 blueprint thats all i need rn

need plastic and all sorts

[hard ivy]

then idk what you did?

[golden nexus]

dump into #1038092680493801533 thread with screenshots

[strong fiber]

I will in a second

[lunar python]

You should make a thread in #1038092680493801533

[strong fiber]

Its so annoying

[golden nexus]

Need generaly overview of tracks/stationers/belts/signal locations etc.... so lots of infomation

[hard ivy]

I would struggle to make a train that cannon even transfer 0.5 stack/min lol

like idk how you even do that

mk1 belts and no buffers?

[unkempt blade]

there's always factory carts if trains are too annoying and you need a better vehicle

[trim sundial]

I wish they would re-design the assemblers to the input ports were spaced out enough to allow straight travel from say two constructors

[golden nexus]

that would break other spacing stuff

[trim sundial]

I know, but i can still dream!

[golden nexus]

other stuff 😛 #screenshots message

[grizzled lotus]

is there a way to connect multiple materials/storages to a single dimensional depot without having one item clogging the line?

[unkempt blade]

Why stop there? I want to be able to fit 2 manufacturers going straight in so I can make assembly director systems the way nature intended

[south sinew]

no

[trim sundial]

I have one line for all of the basics right now. I have a line for Copper Ingots/Sheets/Wire/Cable so like 3 lines of machines. I have my basic lines for iron ingots/plates/rods/screws. and then my first three combinations, reinforced plate, rotors and the modular foundation thingies, only one line for each so my production rate is pretty slow i feel but its just me, and im just into tier 3 and 4 so...it works and it gives me time to explore while im waiting for the reinforced plates, rotors and modular frames to stack up lol.

[golden nexus]

find hard disk / mam items 🙂

sloops/spheres

[trim sundial]

Thats why im in explore mode right now, now that i realised how huge hard disks are lol. I just made a tractor depot and a ride but...im questioning if im better on foot lol

[south sinew]

blade runners are way better than any vehicle yeah

ideally you want to just be uploading a few basics into the DD and then you can makea ll the foundations, ladders, etc you want to get wherever you need

[trim sundial]

Ive heard of them, dont have em yet

[south sinew]

you only need to find a Quartz node to make them

[golden nexus]

get them...

like do them first

[trim sundial]

Aye, i heard what to do to unlock them but quartz is eluding me lol

[golden nexus]

Where was your start location?

[trim sundial]

In the desert, although admittedly, ive only explored like .0001% in the four cardnal directions, now that my basic parts are all automated and i can leave my factory unattended im exploring alot more, im sure it wont be long until i find quartz

[golden nexus]

which desert?

[south sinew]

dunes I assume

[trim sundial]

I believe so, its the other recommended area for newbies other then the green lands.

[grizzled lotus]

just explore around your area. you'll find temporary nodes, and you can use those in the MAM thing to unlock being able to scan for them

[reef basin]

all 4 are just fine

[versed cosmos]

that's rocky desert, not dune desert

[ivory condor]

Idk if one biome in particular is more beginner friendly, each one offers its own slightly different beginning experience

[spark sky]

Okay, so we have a patch to the Steam PC version of Satisfactory, but the patch notes just talk about the U.I. for the Steam Deck. What is this patch doing for the PC version? (Why update the PC version for the Steam Deck U.I.?)

[dry vessel]

Roads gonna be torture since I haven’t been snapping to the world grid?…

[leaden turret]

the steam deck version is the pc version

[spark sky]

I thought the Steam Deck version was a Linux version.

[leaden turret]

nope

[grizzled lotus]

boy, electronics are a headache

[spark sky]

So, it's not a native SteamOS version, then.

[leaden turret]

world grid is pants, unless you were planning on making perfectly straight cardinal-only roads, wouldn't have helped anyway

[leaden turret]

nope

[spark sky]

So, do we see any change under Windows/Steam?

[ivory condor]

Nope, it runs on compatibility layer, like most games do on the steam deck

[leaden turret]

there's only 3/4 builds of satisfactory;

• PC (Steam/Epic)
• PS5
• Xbox

[sweet jacinth]

Quick question. 16 smelters over clocked and somerslooped. Do i need 32 constructors all overclocked to 250 to fully utilize them? I just feel like that's to many

Smeltors output:150
Constructor input 75

[ivory condor]

Proton has gotten fairly good over the years, having to get better support for the steam deck also helped

[hard mantle]

dude im on a mountain and it says quartz is right below me but i cant find a single entrance to it underground

[golden nexus]

rockey desert?

[hard mantle]

yeah

[golden nexus]

often its in caves below

[sweet jacinth]

Derp if you go online there's maps that show you cave entrances.

[hard mantle]

yeah thats what im trying to get into but theres no entrace

[ivory condor]

You have to look around, i think that one is by the shore

[spark sky]

If you're talking way to the North, there is at least one by the water's edge along the cliffs.

I mean, walk along the water on the north side.

[hard mantle]

ok thanks guys

[sweet jacinth]

I just dm you all the cave entrances as well as the link to the page I found it on.

That helped me alot to track down somersloops

[primal obsidian]

are there downsides to using max pipe capacity

will it cause problems

[primal obsidian]

32 is nothing

and yeah that math checks out

[nova igloo]

having your little lizard doggo fren sleeping in the hub would be a nice feature https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1pqfqqb/his_so_peaceful_when_his_not_an_agent_of_chaos/

[sweet jacinth]

Only asking because me and some friends are about to build a mega iron factory and wanted to make sure it was right. We're going to use every iron node in the game. Were duping somersloops and power shards to overclock and sloop everything.

[copper raft]

#screenshots

[grizzled lotus]

is the 2nd forest biome near the eastern border of the map?

[primal obsidian]

wow

[green fiber]

good luck with that project lol

[sweet jacinth]

We're doing it sandbox first so we can figure out how we want it to look and then we're going to do it legit with the exception of the duping.

[outer aurora]

So, I think its probably time to go to sleep. I just found out I built 15 computers per minute instead of 840 aluminium per minute. Somehow didn\t notice until I got to the final step of setting up the manufacturers and not finding where to put the bauxite.

Just had the wrong calculator tab open

[strong fiber]

Balright

[sweet jacinth]

We did the math once and we'll be able to produce something like 90k raw iron per minute. Well need something like 2 or 3k constructors

[strong fiber]

Factory car slower than train

[primal obsidian]

92,100 iron/min on the map using all the nodes max overclock mk.3 miner

[hard mantle]

woah wth is sam

[sweet jacinth]

It just depends i keep getting different answers as to how many nodes there are.

[strong fiber]

If you use pure ingot you can get a fuh ton of iron

[sweet jacinth]

A big purple node in the ground. Used heavily in the mam research.

[strong fiber]

Sastisfactory tools says 92100

[hard mantle]

is there like a car or something cause this is gonna take so long to get to if i need more

[unkempt blade]

oh? are you using them correctly?

[sweet jacinth]

Explorer

[strong fiber]

Not using them at all

[hard mantle]

im just gonna belt these all the way back to my hub

[unkempt blade]

definitely incorrectly then!

[primal obsidian]

10000 factory carts are better then a train with 1 freight car

[strong fiber]

At the start of the game that’s really all you can do until trucks/tractors

[sweet jacinth]

There's also leeched iron ingots which produce even more but I don't think there's a way to make near enough sulfuric acid to do what we need it to.

[primal obsidian]

check the wiki it tells you how much of each puretiy and how much total

[strong fiber]

I did the math 1052 fully oc refineries can produce around 171,000 iron ingots

[dense violet]

!wikisearch miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=miner

[dense violet]

info should be there iirc

[unkempt blade]

now that's using them more-correctly!