satisfactory

[jolly flax]

So thays why

[strong fiber]

Go to the advent calendar for the hardrives

[bold heron]

i hope 1.2 brings us a shuffled map feature where we can suffle nodes, and maybe slugs,sloops,sheres.

[whole drum]

We talked about why you don't rebuild earlier, but the planning part is my main reason.
https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/455858725518049280/1449522738984124426

[reef basin]

you don't have to rebuild even with 0 planning

[whole drum]

That's true, but the planning allows for upgrading, which I do find valuable.

Mostly in that I don't have to do as much extra work on infrastructure/logistics.

[bold heron]

always depends what u need. sometimes i just want somethign to be made i slam each machine once connect them and dont care about the rate like for nobelisks.

[reef basin]

I don't find upgrading valuable at all tbh. My factories already make what they need to make and if for some reason I find out it's not enough, I build new factory, not upgrade old one

[whole drum]

Upgrading is the same as building new, except easier

[reef basin]

how is it easier? you build the same amount of stuff, but with extra limitation of having to fit it in existing infastructure

[bold heron]

also upgrading. one can always build the whole thing and just leave 1 power line unconnected, or a belt missing and once your ready u upgrade the imputs and do the 1 connection and production is doubled.

[reef basin]

(but again, you rarely need more than what you build at first)

[bold heron]

yeah most builds are enough until the endgame.
like u build 30-60 iron plates for storage in tier 1. probaply still enought in tier 9.
its not factorio where u always need much more even from basic stuff.

[whole drum]

This is why I plan it. But you just build on existing infrastructure. It's very easy.

[reef basin]

well the "plan" is also "extra work you have to do", making it "harder"

[whole drum]

The plan is only hard if you make it so

[bold heron]

also i need to do a chaos play once. no planning no foundations just slam everything down where is space.

[reef basin]

with my approach, I do the same, just not having to plan ahead at all

so even if your planning is super easy, it's still more things to do than literally nothing 😛

[whole drum]

The planning is less work than the extra infrastructure and logistics of building a new, remote base.

[reef basin]

there's no extra infrastructure though?

you have to build the same amount of things, with possible small exception of a miner

and nothing says the base needs to be "remote"

[whole drum]

An easy example is using a pure node for my first RIP factory. I just build to the left of the miner with a splitter in front of it. Later, when I need more RIPs, I just upgrade the miner/belt and build do the right of it, then I can join the belts on the output side to all fill into the same box. It's neat, easy, and saves having to transport it so much--and it's already organized if I do want to.

[reef basin]

I mean that's basically building a new base

[whole drum]

But easier

[reef basin]

no I mean that's what I mean by "building a new base"

split a miner, hook it to nearby new machines

[whole drum]

So you just don't like calling it "upgrading," lol

[reef basin]

instead of upgrading existing production, under which I assume things like adding machines to manifolds and actually upgrading the factory

[bold heron]

i use to do this whit my coal power plants and pure nodes. first i build them whit mk2 belt but they are planned and build whit mk4 belts so build and connect everything. just not connect power.once i unlock better belts upgrade incoming belt from miner. connect new generators and power doubled.

[whole drum]

If it makes sense for what you want, that's valid too

[reef basin]

coal plants at mk4 belts are not valid anymore imo

[whole drum]

I meant what you were saying about adding to a manifold and stuff

[reef basin]

yeah that's pain, I'd never do that nor recommend it. Once factory is built, I don't touch it, it works, it's good

[whole drum]

As long as you left yourself room at the end of the manifold, it works

The main reason I could see for not wanting to do that sort of thing is if you are trying to make your bases pretty and not just functional--enclosing them, decorating, taking up a lot of space with lighting, etc

[reef basin]

main reason is that you practically never need to make more than what you initially built, so planning for future that almost never comes is wasted time/effort/space/whatever

[whole drum]

If the plan is good, that future does come--because you planned for it, lol

[bold heron]

if u just wanna complete the game u need very little.

[reef basin]

If the plan is good, that future does come--because you planned for it, lol
sure, but then the plan usually has factories planned fully, so I build them fully and again - don't need upgrading existing ones

[whole drum]

That's assuming far too much

[reef basin]

like what?

[whole drum]

Like I want to plan the entire chain from bottom to top. The only reason you plan to upgrade is because the early game is so limited. Once you have Mk2/3 miners and 4+ belts, you likely aren't going to build anything that can be upgraded because you're gated by the output of miners.

[reef basin]

see, I plan for given output. I don't care if I use one miner fully or two miners only at half speed. It's the same

[whole drum]

I like to utilize them as fully as is reasonable, because 1 =/= two at 0.5, because we can multiply these values with higher tier miners and overclocking, the difference is a potential of like 8x vs 16x.

And it's also not the same because doing 2 at 0.5 means more bases.

It means more travel time and logistical work too

[fluid sapphire]

just split the new extra output from the miner and build a new factory, nothing is wasted and you dont have account for future overhead

[reef basin]

it's literally the same, because there's (I don't know the exact number and too lazy to check, so let's pick one) 90k iron on the map. No matter what I do and how many miners I use, if I need 10k iron for something, I'm left with 80k. It makes no difference what amount of miners I use for this, with the two possible exceptions being:

• power - irrelevant at practically every stage other than T0-1
• having to move ores from miner to factory - not really relevant since I plan factories to be near nodes they need

[fluid sapphire]

some of us actually like finishing buildings

[whole drum]

If you underclock miners, you are reducing the amount of ore on the map

Two at 0.5 means losing a potential 15 miners worth of ore

More, actually--this is only 2 shards each

[reef basin]

only if they are left underclocked forever which doesn't happen (it's basically just a node which is partially used, so I know there's extra, should any future factory need it)

[whole drum]

And then having to manage/remember which miners are under-utilized, creating even more work/hassle than just planning/upgrading

[reef basin]

signs exist

notepad also exists

[fluid sapphire]

its a game of choose-your-hassle, for me an unfinished building would be a bigger hassle

[whole drum]

More work

[silk ocean]

Notepad is becoming Bloatpad

[whole drum]

lol

[reef basin]

way less than "I need to make sure that I leave X space for this, I need to know what X is, I also have to assume I'll be using the same recipe, or know which recipe I'll be using so I know how much space to leave. Also I need to think about other raw resources this upgraded part of factory may need and how they are sourced to leave the space and resources available as well"

[whole drum]

You don't even have to do all that

And it's easy to leave space. The map is huge.

[reef basin]

if I don't do that, I can't expand the factory in the way I said

and I already said that I don't count "build a new factory nearby" as "expand"

[compact flicker]

I have spent the past 14 hours building my first large scale power plant

I am going to cry if it doesn't work when I turn it on

[whole drum]

Did you leave a buffer in your usage to turn it all on?

[silk ocean]

It's like MS are missing Wordpad

[compact flicker]

I more meant if I messed up the math somewhere

Its a diluted fuel -> turbofuel setup

[whole drum]

In that case, the only way to find out is to turn it on 🙂

[compact flicker]

Working on the last bits, but It should be on within an hour or so

[fluid sapphire]

if you have been diligent, troubleshooting will be a breeze

[hard ivy]

Well, unless it's a weird fluid issue

[fluid sapphire]

if the pipes were built in a sane manner, all the same, not too difficult to track down

[fierce holly]

Hi everyone

[silk ocean]

Wat xD don't hate you

I watch quite a few xD

Must have watched hundreds if not thousands xD

Yea 19th

2 hours of building? xD

xD

maxie maxie

[rocky scarab]

• a planned 2hrs of building, followed by 2hrs of running around fixing tiny problems

[nova oriole]

Is there anyone on the game that would spend a minute of their time to help me sort out some load balancers? I'm having a headache

[silk ocean]

Is that the Director's Extended Cut xD

[rocky scarab]

unfortunately it's my cold hard reality

it's amazing i ever get anything done

[silk ocean]

I've been oddly productive these past few days

I just listen to stuff on YT usually

Random club/house/dance/etc

Stuff like what

Both good

You got Cascada on vinyl? Bit exotic xD

Is anything new there? xD

What's that

You've lost me

[jolly flax]

Finally finished setting up the concrete foundations and the foundations for my iron factory

Now gotta do it for copper

[fluid sapphire]

zoop mode go brr?

[whole drum]

Make a thread in #1038092680493801533 . Also, unless there's a specific reason for it, manifolds usually are easier/faster/better.

[spark plover]

what to do on my birthday day

[whole drum]

Give birth

[idle glen]

I've done whole level 2 things but it didnt unlock lvl 3

ok nvm

[silk ocean]

Urgh this installation is suffering from classic Feature Creep

Belts stacked and hacks everywhere

[lunar python]

Do what makes you happy

Doesnt have to be conventional

[ocean frost]

What do you mean

[silk ocean]

#screenshots message

[deft belfry]

#screenshots message
this mess is about to win

[silk ocean]

Whole site needs obliterating and rebuilding XD

Yea that wins XD

[ocean frost]

Let it be a reminder of how far you have come

[silk ocean]

This is the original SAM processing site, and has just been upgraded and hacked numerious times

[compact flicker]

It seems to be working, but I'll know for sure when the manifolds fill up :3

[tough cedar]

I've installed infinitezoop as a mod in a save, now everytime i try to join this save says that it is modded and everything may happen, any way to remove this message?

[idle glen]

tbh, game of the year

[silk ocean]

#screenshots message
Messy but kinda works

[stone python]

That message should only pop up if you load a save after playing with a mod, and then removed it

[tough cedar]

Yes, I installed infnitezoop and then removed, asking if theres any way to remove that message

[stone python]

Save the game

And only load the new save going forward

If you try and load an auto save that had the mod installed you’ll get that message

[jolly flax]

Delicious pasta

[silk ocean]

Nom nom

[jolly flax]

Gonna play some darktide then its back to factories

Im excited to finish satisfactory at least once before I dare try to beat satisfactory plus

[silk ocean]

Don't be away too long, factory needs you XD

[lunar python]

Screws :3

[umbral rover]

I built a nice plastic and rubber factory yesterday

[lunar python]

Can i see it

[umbral rover]

Uses about 4050 oil per min yeah i have to get a pic then

[lunar python]

Holy moly

It better make a lot of plastic and rubber then

[umbral rover]

I also get approximately 1340 fuel from it so it'll make up for itself in consumption plus more

It makes 1360 rubber and i think 1300 plastic per min

[lunar python]

Crazy

Where did you build that

[ornate saffron]

MORE!

[umbral rover]

Bottom left of the map

[lunar python]

Whaaat

[jolly flax]

When I get to plastic, plastic will become coupons

[ornate saffron]

Like a single parent on a tight budget.

[lunar python]

I always put a sink on the overflow end of all my factories, i like a consistant power consumption

[umbral rover]

I don't need extra plastic for super computers now since i have the alt

Technically don't even need computers actually but you still do for the end game structures

Is there a good alt for computers?

[south sinew]

I think you can use a series of alts to make them from caterium and oil only

[ornate saffron]

It all depends on what you want to use to make computers. They are all generally good. Just different resources.

[silk ocean]

I usually put the overflow at the start, so if it backs up to that point it overflows there

[umbral rover]

I did see a caterium one

Like actually gonna do that ngl

[ornate saffron]

There isa crystal computer too which can bypass oil completely if you have enough alternates. But like I said it depends on what resources you have

[umbral rover]

Cause i have a small setup for 12 computers per minute

Using iron copper quartz and oil

It's honestly perfect

I have a buffer storage setup haven't had a shortage yet

[hard ivy]

Hmm I just realised it's possible to make computers out of only caterium and oil. Supercomputers too

[umbral rover]

Really?

[clear aspen]

Hello

[umbral rover]

Im gonna have to go hunting for harddrives then

[hard ivy]

It's not cheap but yeah
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=6FHBtAPxcsfD5VCRtn2l

[green fiber]

Caterium CB + Quickwire Cable + Plastic AI Limiter?

[silk ocean]

Quite a lot of oil for 1 supercomputer

[south sinew]

the oil usage is not that efficient with the alts used here

diluted fuel + recycled rubber would go a lot easier

kinda weird that the planner picked recycled plastic but not recycled rubber and ignored diluted fuel

[hard ivy]

Caterium computer too, but it's not required. Neither is quickwire cable, though you'd need caterium wire instead

Also Found the one use for tempered caterium

[leaden arch]

Y'all ever realize Satisfactory already has a lot of pieces for a battle royale? Thoughts I had hanging above the map in my parachute lmao

[hard ivy]

Because diluted fuel uses water and I said caterium and oil only

[umbral rover]

Thats insane

[south sinew]

I prefer pure caterium really

[silk ocean]

May as well use water?

[hard ivy]

If I was actually building something like this, I'd add water and copper

Then it's like half price

[south sinew]

yeah I guess I normally think of water as essentially free, adding it cuts oil usage by 50%

I dunno, kinda depends on how you value it, but you're not getting more quickwire per ore with copper, you're just substituting some copper for caterium

[green fiber]

Leached Caterium my beloved.

[south sinew]

so depends on how much effort you're willing to go to to find copper

[whole robin]

Is SAM useful for anything other than stuff in the MAM

[white dawn]

Late-game Tier 9 stuff

[green fiber]

If you have no other use yet you arent far enough in the game yet

[quaint ibex]

guys i just unlocked the oil stuff

[whole drum]

Pure Cat is pretty efficient. Usually more than enough for a reasonable build, depending recipe choice.

[quaint ibex]

what should i produce with crude oil first?

[south sinew]

usually you need a bit of rubber and plastic to progress to get fuel generators

[green fiber]

Whatever you need to progress in the hub

[south sinew]

then you can focus on fuel power production

[whole drum]

If you need power, do that first. If not, do rubber, then plastic.

[compact flicker]

Yay my first inexplicible fluid problems

[quaint ibex]

rn my coal generators dont work bcuz i dont have enough power

[whole drum]

Then maybe do smokeless powder and/or synthetic fabric.

But you only need a small amount of those.

[south sinew]

you probably need to fix that first before doing anything with oil

[whole drum]

Yeah, build another coal plant first.

[quaint ibex]

how do you travel very fast at this point of the game? i have all the previous upgrades

[green fiber]

Congrats.
Check the problem by starting at the source.
Generally thats the best start

[south sinew]

hypercannons

[lucid flicker]

yo sup guys

[whole drum]

The explorer isn't a bad option either

[lucid flicker]

does anyone wanna see my vid i made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucY9eSOBXqc

[south sinew]

explorer sucks, hypercannons is great

[lucid flicker]

its about the backrooms

[lucid flicker]

i got no jetpack-

nor blade runners-

[white dawn]

You take that back! (Explorer is, IMO, a lot of fun to drive around. :)

[lucid flicker]

💀

[lucid flicker]

they are fun

[hard ivy]

I usually start at the final product. It's usually faster to do it that way because you just follow the trail of missing inputs, rather than having to find why the output is backed up

[lucid flicker]

but hypercannons are more efficient

[south sinew]

I mostly just found it was really horrible to control and the terrain handling capabilities were vastly over-stated

[whole drum]

Hypercannons are great, but explorer is a reasonable choice

[south sinew]

it would only have been good to drive if I had made an explicit road

[whole robin]

Should I start investing resources into the SINK really early on

[south sinew]

easier to just build a cannon which is much faster

[green fiber]

You can go one place or the other
If its not one end then it might be the other end

[whole drum]

I was using it yesterday to run over wildlife--apparently they just go passive while you're in it.

[quaint ibex]

get ladders and floor lift hole

[south sinew]

Probably yes, you can find a nearby SAM or Quartz nodes which you won't be needing for a while, refine them a little and sink them, this will give you a fair few points for stuff like ladders, floor holes, and other essentials

[quaint ibex]

ladders makes your life so much better 😄

[white dawn]

Yeah, I think the vehicle changes during U8 weren't kind do it; I think many folks liked it better before then. I've driven it a lot on "natural" roads in U8+ though, and IMO it's perfectly fine on those. Takes some getting used to, as with any vehicle, but it's generally able to get me from A to B pretty quickly

[quaint ibex]

also concrete foundation

[white dawn]

(I've actually literally never built "roads" for my vehicles. Tires right on the ground!)

[white dawn]

IMO Catwalks > Ladders

[whole drum]

For your factories, yes. For exploration, no shot.

[white dawn]

Oh, I 100% use them for exploration all the time

I find ladders super awkward

[whole drum]

I love them

[white dawn]

And with catwalks I can get exactly where I want to be going, instead of having to get the placements Just Right

[compact flicker]

Do pumps only add headlift or will they increase flow rate?

[south sinew]

ladders are mostly good but there's some places where it can be really hard to get the ladder to lock onto the foundation

[white dawn]

(And IMO they tend to look nicer as "permanent" installations, too)

[south sinew]

only headlift

[whole drum]

Ladder + Parachute lets you go anywhere you want very early on. Easy way to find and collect sloops/drives/spheres.

[compact flicker]

Ty

[white dawn]

I pretty much only ever use ladders for verisimilitude in factories. :)

[green fiber]

only head lift really
If flow sucks thats has to be fixed at the machines that make fluid

[hard ivy]

I usually try to explore with as little building as possible

[green fiber]

Or by changing your piping layout

[south sinew]

I'm just gonna use ags to avoid exploring entirely in my next playthrough

[whole robin]

Are they also unlocked through the awesome shop?

[compact flicker]

The number say it should work, the results are just.. Not agreeing with the numbers

[whole drum]

Definitely a vibe, lol. Some people don't like leaving random structures littered around the map.

[hard ivy]

Yeah, that's what I usually do unless they change something about exploration/map/unlocks

[green fiber]

Might be beneficial to make a #1038092680493801533 post with some images of your layout then

[white dawn]

If I'm not making an exploration aid look nice, then yeah, I do basically always dismantle 'em afterwards

[green fiber]

Layout can make or break a pipe system

[white dawn]

Like run up a cliff to get that drive/sloop/whatever and then dismantle

But for some things it's handy to leave something in place

[mortal ginkgo]

they create "work pressure" horizontaly as well. 2 tanks filling up one while the one with the pump will get it 95% empty.

[hard ivy]

Yeah, I don't like leaving stuff around, but the primary reason is that I often forget that I can build while exploring. Mostly because you can actually get everywhere without building

[mortal ginkgo]

horizontal pump is the only way I achieve 100% flowrate in mk2 pips while feeding stuff from below

[green fiber]

Thats more because they prevent backflow and actively try to move any fluid thats in their input

But they cant move what isnt there, hence they cant improve flow rate in 90% of cases

The actual truth about pumps is.... a bit too long for this chat

[whole robin]

Are each of the rewards from the advent calendar randomized? I got a nuke from one of the days on my personal world and a parachute in one that I play with someone else

[hard ivy]

Some are, some aren't

[white dawn]

There are certain days with "fixed" rewards, but the rest are randomized from a set pool. By the end of the event, everyone will have gotten the exact same loot, but some of the days will be different depending on RNG

So like in both of those worlds you'll eventually get both a nuke and a parachute

[mortal ginkgo]

That also what I meant.. which I tried to mean.. so I meant to try.. to try just to mean... I am tired boss. been a long day aight.

[green fiber]

Honestly one could just answer every pipe question with "Bernoulli" and be 75% correct

[whole drum]

You definitely can. It's just the easiest way in the very early game. Infinite power pole spam + hover is the actual best way, imo.

[silk ocean]

Top tip - don't go make food while at the nuclear power plant xD

[fast tendon]

Hello chat I have a very important question, do the FICSMAS presents still play music on ocassion? I haven't heard them at all this year so far

[silk ocean]

Christmas is cancelled on my server xD

[mortal ginkgo]

based server, LET ME IN

[silk ocean]

I'll DM you after eating xD

[mortal ginkgo]

jk bro, server would immediately reach object limit and crash due to me over decorating stuff

I am a menace to the society

[silk ocean]

xD

[mortal ginkgo]

enjoy the meal tho ❤️

[silk ocean]

Thanks 😄

FICMAS is literally disabled server-side xD

[fiery escarp]

Chat

Do I cover my entire world in trains?

I think I should

[silk ocean]

Yes yes yes

[fiery escarp]

YEEEEAH

Guys do I rip the copper wire out of the walls? Lowkey gotta get home faster

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean I am sure some doofus would go ahead and make a 50% map covered ficsmas factory to tank performance 😛

Btw how does it work to be on server? Do you guys just chill around and server owner resets it time to time?

[silk ocean]

Cannonbaaallll

[mortal ginkgo]

wacking 15 pulsenobelisk also does the same thing and I love it

[silk ocean]

Probably lawl
I just play single player on a LAN server. I guess sometimes if there is an update

[compact flicker]

Does pulse nobelisk deal damage?

[silk ocean]

It runs 24/7 even when not logged in

Never actually used pulse nobelisks.... maybe you need to test it "for science" xD

[fiery escarp]

Jump into one. Find out

[compact flicker]

I just logged off 😭

[fiery escarp]

Log back on. Ez fix

😎

[compact flicker]

But tired >:

[silk ocean]

I'll test it for you

[umbral rover]

Oof

[compact flicker]

Ty

[silk ocean]

Does a very small amount of damage, half a block

And kicks you away

They make a cool sound I'll say that much

[umbral rover]

Im automating nukes later so i can go harddrive hunting :3

[silk ocean]

#screenshots message

[compact flicker]

Neat :3

Cool factory too

[silk ocean]

lol thanks

[compact flicker]

If those will help lol

[silk ocean]

Probably quite useful to get up cliffs

[umbral rover]

Yeah actually

[wind siren]

heh, usually i have all the hard drives by early nuke production

[umbral rover]

The nukes just make it easier to destroy the environment 😈

[silk ocean]

They are effective for that xD

[umbral rover]

I hate trees

Always in the way

Not anymore :3

[silk ocean]

I dont mind them as long as they aren't in the way xD

[umbral rover]

First thing i do in Minecraft is deforestation

[silk ocean]

Yea although I tend to end up replanting for wood supply

[umbral rover]

That's what infinite world gen is for

🤣🤣

[silk ocean]

True, just involves going further and further from base xD

[umbral rover]

I have 120k spruce logs on my main save rn

[silk ocean]

Should be enough lol

[umbral rover]

Real

I bulit my mega factory in the forest ontop of 6 pure iron nodes😈

[silk ocean]

The green forest area kinda in the center of the map?

[umbral rover]

Yeah

More like a giga factory lol sorry

It takes like 2 minutes to get from one side to another

[silk ocean]

The definition is kinda subjective I guess... mega, giga, etc xD

No idea what to call mine... PeasantFactory

[umbral rover]

Giga is technically bigger than mega lol

[silk ocean]

PetaFactory

[umbral rover]

I think anyway

Real

🤣🤣

[silk ocean]

xD

[honest sleet]

finished t4 last night, working on my first converter rn!

[umbral rover]

If Linus built a factory be like

[umbral rover]

Good job

[honest sleet]

i'm so worried about what comes next...

[umbral rover]

My next thing is getting turbo motors and super computers so i can take all the ores from around the map

[honest sleet]

after i get this converter made, i'm gonna up my nuclear fuel production bcus my power grid is not too happy

[umbral rover]

I just built a plastic factory not only is it making 1300 plastic and rubber its also gonna make 16750mw

My grid is happy af and it we be after that too i have 42500mw atm

[honest sleet]

i kinda wanna get the rocket launch thingy (milestones) as a separate building, so i can have that outside and have the HUB inside

[umbral rover]

Fair

[silk ocean]

Is it my imagination or have glass foundations disappeared

or was I just dreaming xD

[umbral rover]

Better not have

My second story in the factory i just built uses glass foundations

[silk ocean]

I better check the store, must have missed them

[whole drum]

They are just too clean. You'll know it when you fly into them.

[umbral rover]

Lol

Then you fail to get on a platform and fall to your demise

Thankfully im a p***y and have keep inventory on

[wind siren]

is there a preferred production line for crude if all you need from it is the fuel for power?

[reef basin]

there's the simple way (use the "fuel" recipe), there's the oil-efficient way (alternate HOR -> diluted (packaged) fuel), there's other ways somewhere in between. Up to you 😉

[wind siren]

hmm, all i have so far is classic...guess that'll do for now

i have the HOR method but dont really think it pays me better to make something to get HOR first

[honest sleet]

same

i will never play without keep inventory on

[wind siren]

heh, the current new threat to me is the nuke super bulls that throw boulders and irradiate

damn things take 2+ clips to kill from thte rifle

[honest sleet]

my dad plays with mobs being non hostile

never doing that, i have a rifle and i like using it

[wind siren]

is it me or is the respawn rate of the mobs higher now?

[scenic mirage]

🤓 YoUrE pLaYiNg ThE gAmE wRoNg

[honest sleet]

i'm used to minecraft spawn rates, so Satisfactory respawn rates are super slow (not that i'm complaining)

[umbral rover]

I was ngl waiting for someone to say something 🤣🤣

[scenic mirage]

yeah bro trust me in the game you make the rules up yourself, you're playing it wrong

[honest sleet]

is it strange that i have like 7K homing rifle ammo that i just carry everywhere

[umbral rover]

Not weird at at all

[honest sleet]

oki good

[umbral rover]

I carry like 200 cluster nobelisks at all times

[round matrix]

so, i just made snowballs... how do i throw them? :D

[honest sleet]

i recently moved my hub to a skybase thingy that ignores physics entirely and i love it

[fading whale]

I've gone underground.

[honest sleet]

ooo nice

[umbral rover]

Sounds like fun

[honest sleet]

how does the rocket launch work then

like does it go through the rock or what

[fading whale]

Oh. Haven't moved everything underground. Just a coupel of projects.
But it would just clip right trough.

[honest sleet]

ah oki

my main base is a super laggy mess that drops the framerate to a countable level when you look at it lol

[umbral rover]

The game needs better multi threading capabilities

[leaden arch]

If you have homing ammo you should have a dimensional depot for it

[honest sleet]

yea but those are expensive

[leaden arch]

Not really

[umbral rover]

I have a threadripper and it only uses like 20 percent of my cpu at 140 fps

[honest sleet]

mercer spheres are hard to find and i don't wanna go hunt for them

and i've gotten all the nearby ones

[real shale]

Consume.

[umbral rover]

Ive found alot tbh

[scenic mirage]

they arent rlly that hard to find when you have the hand search tool thingy. you gotta explore the map anyway 🤷‍♂️

[honest sleet]

i'm actually listening to the podcast of Critical Role campaign 2 (most of the sphere quotes are from that)

[honest sleet]

yea but i've encountered the death spiders

[real shale]

Your curves are beautiful.

[honest sleet]

one nearby sphere has like 3 guarding it

[umbral rover]

I have like 10 depots just for concrete while i started building my giga factory

[fading whale]

What's the command to see fps?

[honest sleet]

i have like 10 depots total

[umbral rover]

Oof i probably have like 40 rn

[honest sleet]

i need the mod that lets you make them tbh

but after i finish a vanilla game

[placid dew]

when does the game gets alot harder i am rn almost at phase 4

[real shale]

Phase 4 lmao

[umbral rover]

Phase 4 is rough

[honest sleet]

t4

[real shale]

I've been so lazy was phase 4 that I've just been rebuilding everything rather than doing the actual milestones

[clear aspen]

Hmm

[umbral rover]

Once you get to the point of turbo motors and supercomputer you'll be like. Damn.. i just started

[honest sleet]

yea turbo motors suck

[real shale]

It's took me so long to get radio control units automated (I have been very lazy in getting the casings automated)

[honest sleet]

and once you get to the particle basher... well good luck

[real shale]

And now I got Ficsmas to keep me occupied

[umbral rover]

Like rip

[honest sleet]

i'm just ignoring Ficsmas except for the advent

bcus there's some good stuff in there

[umbral rover]

Real

How do i unlock ficsmas

I see the tree but can't access it

[real shale]

Pick up presents that drop around the map

also theres cartridges from the advent

[umbral rover]

I have like 2200 of the presents

[real shale]

They are used for MAM research stages

[honest sleet]

i just sink the things

[umbral rover]

Oh

Okay

[real shale]

I think the final cartridge dropped yesterday so the whole tree can be done now (provided you didn't just change your system clock)

[feral jay]

I have 850k presents

I need more

[real shale]

Donate them to ficsit engineers in need

[honest sleet]

next save i'm putting everything on foundations bcus my head hurts when i try to navigate my factory

[umbral rover]

Bro you need to CHILL

[feral jay]

No, I need MOAR PRESENTS!

[umbral rover]

OwO

[silk ocean]

Some of these trains are such chancers.... I saw you... blowing through that signal and then noping out and backing up... cheeky little train

[umbral rover]

Oof

I don't use trains just mega busses

[silk ocean]

A bus that seats 200

[umbral rover]

Can't chance a pos train stoping then fml

[honest sleet]

i have like 3 trains bcus i never use them

[umbral rover]

Conveyors never stop so

And they use 0 power

So ofc im gonna use them instead

[honest sleet]

one is going to the desert for copper, one is going to an ore deposit, and one is going to my main oil product factory

[silk ocean]

Trains don't use much

[umbral rover]

Ill use a train if its a final output of a factory

[honest sleet]

i don't count 100 megawatts plus "not a lot"

[silk ocean]

I guess it's not much when you're generating 525,000 MW 😉

[umbral rover]

Bro

[honest sleet]

can you send me some of that power pls

i need some of that

[umbral rover]

Real like let me hold a mw bro

[silk ocean]

xD

Need to be able to put some batteries on a train and send it your way xD

[umbral rover]

My cousin always calls me a fatass for how much time i spend on factories but like dam

🤣

[silk ocean]

The Lord of the Factory

[umbral rover]

The ai factories are fat as shit

Like bro let me hold a caterium ingot fr

And copper sheets istg you could have 670 refineries making copper sheets and you wouldn't have enough

[honest sleet]

we need more power sources like hydroelectric and solar tbh

[umbral rover]

The devs said they ain't adding solar ever

[honest sleet]

yea and that makes me sad

[umbral rover]

Or hydro

Yeah it is sad

[silk ocean]

Could always grab a solar mod

[honest sleet]

next save is gonna be modded

[silk ocean]

Yea me too I think

[umbral rover]

I don't trust mods in games now i added mods to my car mechanic sim and i gotta save every 20 minutes in case it crashes for no reason

[silk ocean]

If I mod it won't be anything sketchy and ideally not too many

[umbral rover]

Real

[zinc portal]

Does anyone else have the problem of "Eh, I dont like how this factory looks. Start new game, do it prettier" do you start new or cleanup current?

[honest sleet]

i just cope with mine

[zinc portal]

concern

I worry for you eclipse, godspeed

[leaden turret]

build factory in box

decorate box

problem solved

[umbral rover]

Same

[sterile blade]

No. Never. Not even once.
Covers up long list of saved worlds

[honest sleet]

i'm ADHD and my factory is honestly cleaner than my room

and i can't navigate my factory

[zinc portal]

My room is clean! Just not the desk. Ignore that, much like my many boxs of needless things I should be sinking

[fading whale]

Power grid faliures I get. Fuses blown. Alright.
But I got to give it to Ficsit.
They know how to design cables considering how many amps you can pull through one single powerline.

[honest sleet]

yea

i've got twin nuclear reactors pushing through a single cable

[white dawn]

(Alternately, it's all one big busybox to keep the Pioneer occupied for Reasons Unknown™, and all the machines are really just perpetual motion generators like conveyor belts. Power lines can "carry" so much current because they're actually not doing anything at all and FICSIT is just simulating this stuff via their smartmatter tech. :)

[hard ivy]

You can push way way more

[silk ocean]

pushing through a single cable?

as in connected via?

[hard ivy]

Yeah

[silk ocean]

Be fiiiiine

[fallow magnet]

Hey for crude oil is it better to do the crude oil into rubber and plastic with heavy oil byproduct, or the crude oil into fuel with the blue polymer thing or whatever it’s called?

[hard ivy]

Depends what your goal is?

Also, oil is always more efficient with alts

[outer aurora]

So, I screwed up steam sync and lost 8 hours of progress :( Anyone wanna redo steel with me? 😅

[fallow magnet]

Not sure honestly I just unlocked it

[silk ocean]

https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorageapp/?appid=526870

[fallow magnet]

Right now I have I have 4 refiners doing 2 rubber / 2 plastic and 3 doing fuel with the heavy oil from 4 of them going to make fuel in one refiner and then the 3 refiners sending the blue stuff to make plastic

[outer aurora]

Its not theere :(

[white dawn]

With the vanilla recipes, the shortest path to the product is best for optimizing that product. So the vanilla Plastic, Rubber, and Fuel recipes will give you the most of those products, respectively

Once you start getting alts, there's various paths so it's best to play around with 'em

Once you have the Heavy Oil Residue alt and Diluted Fuel (packaged or otherwise -- in Phase 3 you'd have to use the packaged version) then that's by far the best for Fuel (in terms of oil efficiency, anyway), and forms the basis of the most-oil-efficient ways to get Rubber + Plastic, though that's a bit of a complex setup. (Involves Residual Rubber plus two more alts: Recycled Rubber + Recycled Plastic)

[silk ocean]

What about local system? %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\id\

[outer aurora]

Where would that be on a linux install?

[silk ocean]

Somewhere xD
~/FactoryGame/
Maybe

[white dawn]

Running Windows games on Steam via Proton sets up a virtual little C drive under ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/<gameid>

[silk ocean]

~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/526870/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/Local Settings/Application Data/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/
According to AI

(if Proton)

[fading whale]

Hmm.. why does my message with link to fandom.com wiki get deleted?

[outer aurora]

Apparently not

It doesn't show in the ingame viewer and I suppose it would if it was there

[white dawn]

~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/526870/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

[leaden turret]

fandom wiki is abandoned trashfire, we're on wiki.gg

[white dawn]

Because the fandom wiki is old outdated trash. :)

[fading whale]

Got it. Just oone of the top search results on Google :/

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's been slowly dropping off, but it's been taking awhile

[heavy pine]

Which sucks because it's trash

[fading whale]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Save_files

[outer aurora]

Pretty sure I just have to rebuild

[leaden turret]

reminder: search result rankings are personalised; if you still use the fandom trashfire, you're going to get results for the trashfire 😛

[fading whale]

Probably from achievement hunting on xbox games.

[glad quest]

anyone got any good zombie movie ideas

[fading whale]

Most of my searches are done i private mode though.

[silk ocean]

Sinners?

[fading whale]

Warm Bodies

[glad quest]

thats vampire lol

[leaden turret]

[google exec voice]: "private mode" 🤣

[silk ocean]

lol yeah true

[glad quest]

ohh shit not heard of this lemme give it a looks

[silk ocean]

Kinda similar vampires to zombies tho

[glad quest]

true

tho ive seen it already and it was odd to say the least

[silk ocean]

It is quite an odd movie yea

[fading whale]

World War V. Just imagine hordes of Vampires piling up to get over the wall.

[glad quest]

is that the one where the plane crashes next to the only research centre left?

[silk ocean]

If you want more vampire (you prob seen it) the old classic with Salma Hayek... From Dusk Till Dawn

[glad quest]

ill give it a watch

theres 4 movies whats the bes tone

[silk ocean]

The 1996 one with Hayek and Clooney

Why does the hoverpack fail so hard when you cut a rail, even though the other side is powered and in range xD

[honest sleet]

got Ficsite and Time crystal production online!

Tier 9, here i come!

[green fiber]

now you are cooking with SAM

[honest sleet]

yea

had to shut it down due to my grid going to emergency power storage, but should be able to bring it back online soon

[leaden turret]

-# Sautéed Animal Meats

[green fiber]

them converters are power hungry.... but thats not even the worst it can get

[honest sleet]

it was the Accelerator for diamonds that made it go bad (also the nuclear reactors ran out of fuel rods)

[green fiber]

accelerators are also only 2nd place when it comes to power hungriness...

[white dawn]

1st Place goes to FICSIT's CEO, whoever that happens to be v1.0+

[honest sleet]

...to what

[lilac bear]

Talking about accelerators, what's the leading guide on nuclear power nowadays?

[green fiber]

you'll see

[honest sleet]

oh wait is it encoders

[green fiber]

Uranium good Ficsonium bad

plutonium... meh

[white dawn]

You've got four options for nuclear:

1. Make Uranium Rods > Burn Them > Store the Uranium Waste forever
2. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert the U Waste to Plutonium Rods > Sink the Pu Rods (for a "clean" nuclear option)
3. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert U Waste to Pu Rods > Burn Them > Store the Plutonium Waste forever
4. Make U Rods > Burn Them > Convert U Waste to Pu Rods > Burn Them > Convert Pu Waste to Ficsonium Rods > Burn Them (for another "clean" option; Ficsonium produces no waste)

Once you get past Uranium Fuel Rods, the only other product which is sinkable is Plutonium Fuel Rods. Plutonium waste accumulates much more slowly than Uranium waste, so folks storing waste often want to do that. For folks who don't care about "clean" nuclear, burning Pu Rods and storing that waste tends to be the preferred option. Ficsonium itself is quite resource-expensive (particularly SAM) and doesn't produce much extra power. But if you want the extra power from Plutonium and still want "clean" nuclear, that's the option. :)

[honest sleet]

good to know

[lilac bear]

Option 2 is a great place to start, but I tend to screw up the groupings.

[white dawn]

(I personally disagree with the good/meh/bad ranking for U/Pu/Fi) :)

[green fiber]

me too but thats kinda the state of it

[honest sleet]

i'm gonna make a PU waste depot in a random corner of the map as soon as i get PU online

[white dawn]

I'd personally give a "good" to both U and Pu, and an "it depends" for Fi. :)

[lilac bear]

NW corner still one of the best places to put a few reactors down?

[green fiber]

given how late ficsonium even is in the entire game chain, its completely optional anyway.
Its kinda like a consolation price for unlocking MK 6 belts

[lilac bear]

Near that uranium deposit on the highest peak.

[white dawn]

The best place to put down nuclear power plants is anywhere there's abundant water

Avoiding piping nightmares is the main concern, really. By that point in the game you've got all the logistics methods available to you; hopefully transporting materials if need be doesn't pose too much of a challenge anymore. :)

Can always just throw a bunch of drones at it, if nothing else

[lilac bear]

Yea, piping and radioactivity are my only challenges basically. And the radioactivity is more of a nuisance not running out of filters, making sure all waste is tackled by an overly complicated system 😆

[leaden turret]

read this message out loud

🚽

[white dawn]

(Also I'd argue that all late-game power is, strictly speaking, optional. I'm actually quite fond of Ficsonium, personally -- I love burning Plutonium and I'd ideally like clean nuclear, so building out Ficsonium for me is essentially a given. Optional, sure, but so are most other options at that stage)

[honest sleet]

yea ik

[leaden turret]

@white dawn yes, totally optional 😛

[broken quarry]

why does power on require insane power?

is that why my factory turns off?

[green fiber]

does your "max consumption" line exceed your capacity line?

[broken quarry]

it does not

[honest sleet]

lol mine does a lot

[broken quarry]

but my power keeps turning off even after adding another burner

[green fiber]

youre still only at the burner stage i guess?

[broken quarry]

yea but I have 7 burners

[green fiber]

add another

[broken quarry]

it was working fine last night

[green fiber]

make sure none of them run out of fuel

[broken quarry]

yea conveyers have tons of rods

[green fiber]

iron rods aint a valid fuel

[broken quarry]

bio mass rods...

"solid bio mass fuel"

so is it just that I dont have enough burners?

really weird they where working last night

[green fiber]

possibly?

last night, some of your machines may have not been producing stuff

or you expanded some stuff

again, hard to know without knowing what all your power readings are

[broken quarry]

max production 280 average use is about 190

[still haven]

Max usage?

[lucid flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-reaction-michi-triste-crying-cat-reaction-sad-cat-hannicion-gif-17190162121303461099

[still haven]

Average usage doesn’t mean anything if the power usage fluctuates

[broken quarry]

oh yea cap is 240 max cons is 254

[still haven]

There is your problem

[lucid flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-watch-yo-tone-gif-23779961

[strong fiber]

U gotta get coal power

It doesn’t take much to unlock phase 1

[broken quarry]

working on phase 1 rn

[strong fiber]

You really only need to handfeed some assemblers if you dont wanna automate the plates

[broken quarry]

I got 5 running right now but Im gonna rebuild this soon

[honest sleet]

it's really sinking in that i'm in the last phase of the game now pls send help

[glass pagoda]

Hi

[whole robin]

is there a speedrun for purchasing every item from the awesome shop at least once?

[glass pagoda]

Look it up

[sour ledge]

y'all ever build a factory just like... nowhere inparticular. A factory that uses nothing but imported goods?

I'm about to and it feels friggin' weird, normally I do the assembling on-site where at least one is produced, but all the parts for these are already near busy intersections so i don't want to just slap more rail stations at either...

[silk ocean]

Yea plenty of my sites import from around the world

Especially some of the powerplants

[glad quest]

ITS PEAK so far

[sour ledge]

lol i've got the weirdest choice paralysis here just because every single factory i've made over multiple saves has been at a resource node. Now i've got all that... resourceless-space i could build this factory. No node to incorporate as the 'start' location

[silk ocean]

I generally try to site near at least one of the required resources but some sites simply import everything

[glass pagoda]

I've been building like that too but now that I have to work on phase 3 space elevator items im making factorys for each item and then using trains to transport the resources

[sour ledge]

see i've actually done that all the way through phases 4/5 in the past - i use rail, but like if its a turbo motor factory i've always built it where at least one of the parts is produced, and only the rest are imports

but i got a little weird with my rail layouts this time and slapping on the extra rail stations to import/export even more items'll turn into a logistics issue

[glass pagoda]

It's my first save where I've gotten actually far like before I didint even get to phase 2, not the space elevator I mean the teir

[sour ledge]

you're on a good track with rail going this time - my first save getting to phase 5 was the first save i got good with rail infrastructure

having a good way to move things around is really the biggest pain point of moving into 4/5

[torpid oar]

guys is this satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

did someone say factory carts?

[sour ledge]

They did not!

[unkempt blade]

my alarm must be malfunctioning again

[silk ocean]

Hallucinating factory carts

[glass pagoda]

Yeah once I have it done I will rebuild the factorys producing the stuff to make them more efficient cuz rn the factorys are bare minimum except for the heavy frame one im gonna make. ||factory carts||

[torpid oar]

phase 4 is crushing me chat, someone please console me 😔

[viscid rune]

harvest

[copper dirge]

phase 4 is hard but phase 5 is easy

[torpid oar]

i dont believe you.

does anyone else use spread sheets for planning? or am i a special kind of autistic

[silk ocean]

Rise and shine!
#screenshots message

[broken quarry]

can we petitionf or embeds in satisfactory chat?

[silk ocean]

It would be a nightmare

[broken quarry]

why?

[silk ocean]

Would probably wipe out chat with loads of memes and stuff

[broken quarry]

other servers are fine?

[silk ocean]

Most others I'm in don't allow it in the main discussion channel either

[broken quarry]

Im in 90 server and majority do

[silk ocean]

I doubt it will ever happen here but you can try xD

[reef basin]

we had those, practically every 5th message was gif reaction, or people abusing this channel for showing off instead of posting to #screenshots

was unreadable

[broken quarry]

its so annoying having to switch channels

[reef basin]

for what?

[broken quarry]

to post then come back here

[silk ocean]

It's like 2 clicks

[reef basin]

why not talk where you posted?

[broken quarry]

if Im in game I have to alt out to discord then to my monitor then to #screenshots then back here. its tedious when I need help

[reef basin]

well for help you have #1038092680493801533

[merry granite]

first world problem right here

[reef basin]

#screenshots is just for showing of cool things without talking or questions

[silk ocean]

Multiple monitors ftw

[merry granite]

Also you have to alt tab anyway so remove that part

[reef basin]

so you're using wrong channel 😉

[merry granite]

I think all of this would be solved if discord had a dropdown to show image or video posts

[reef basin]

or if people used proper channels for things

[silk ocean]

Doesn't Discord have an in-game overlay

[broken quarry]

I mean based on the description of the channel asking quick questions is within the realm of its use case.

[reef basin]

asking quick question is in #satisfactory
asking anything that requires image is for #1038092680493801533 , #math-and-meta , or #design-and-architecture

[pulsar glade]

im bout to sound rlly stupid but how do i keep satisfactory fun ??? like i bought it cos i see these game 3play and it seems fun but then like i cant get myself to grind to get past the stage

stage 3

[reef basin]

what is the part that is "problematic" for you?

[broken quarry]

yea its tough, Im just finished with phase 1 right now

my last playthrough tho after stage 3 was pretty smooth

[silk ocean]

You shouldn't have to tab out if you use the overlay

[broken quarry]

the overlay limits my fps for some reason

[pulsar glade]

idk its just like i get on the game i make like one thing and then realize how much more stuff i needa do until i acctually get what i need then just switch to a diffrenrt game

[broken quarry]

automate early then don't worry about it looking nice then after tier 2 tear it all down

[reef basin]

I'm not sure if it will help, but this may be a good read for you. Maybe it's a different issue though, but the recommendation is still valid

[reef basin]

honestly, tearing down is where many people burn out, so I wouldn't recommend it (it's not very time efficient anyway)

[silk ocean]

Tier 1-3 fac basically gets blown up and rebuilt

It's just a starterfac

[reef basin]

I'd rather keep my starter factory than have no factory

[pulsar glade]

thats what i did like i saw all the cool orginaized bases and re did it when i got to tier 3 and then burnt out idk if i should just restart or move my base cus its my first ever playthru so i just picked the forest area

[silk ocean]

It's only temporary while you rebuild on foundations

[broken quarry]

why is tier 2 flashing?

[reef basin]

unless you are very very very much unhappy with your base, I'd just keep going. Existing factories can stay and make items, you can build new ones

[broken quarry]

3 and 4 are unlocked and so is coal power FINALLY

[reef basin]

for first playthrough, the forest isn't that good imo (but everyone has different preferences)

[pulsar glade]

so to my understanding is that my spegetie convary belts and just random mechines in random places wouldve been just fine

[pulsar glade]

where should i have started in ur opions

[silk ocean]

Dune Desert xD

[reef basin]

I mean the game even tells you in description of the starting locations that the grass fields are good for first save iirc. But honestly any starting point is fine, just that grass fields are designed with first playthrough in mind

[slate kiln]

I just unlock tier 5 and 6, right now I make the train

[pulsar glade]

so should i restart in a new location like a new save or what ?

[silk ocean]

Nah

[reef basin]

nah, keep the current save and play, unless you're very unhappy with it

(obviously there's also a possibility that the game just isn't your cup of tea, so don't force it)

[reef basin]

yeah. Visuals don't really matter, you can always make things nicer, but it's best to learn how to make them functional first. And even if the factory makes things very slowly, it's still better than no factory 😉

[pulsar glade]

yeah

[silk ocean]

Doesn't matter where you start imo... sooner or later you're going to have to go further away to gather new resources wherever you start

[unkempt blade]

not even a scratch! truly a marvel of ficsit engineering unlike the cyberwagon

[pulsar glade]

so wheres a good spot to where im not too far from most recorces cus yk building long convares is kinda boring and repetive ??

[broken quarry]

how much stuff do I really need for effecient coal power since I shouldnt be building power at my base

[reef basin]

well, "good" spot is different for each factory, basically if you need iron and copper in a factory, good spot is near iron and copper 😉

[silk ocean]

I wouldn't say anywhere in the grasslands is bad, there are so many resources around the local area it doesn't make much difference

[golden nexus]

how big is the power plant?

[broken quarry]

about to build it 300m away coal go brrrr

[pulsar glade]

so im supposed to have diffrent factories in like in diffrent places i have like all my stuff going to one place and everything being made at that one place

[silk ocean]

The individual building? Which one

[golden nexus]

Track the context 😉

[silk ocean]

Yea, I fail xD

[reef basin]

super early on (T0-2) you don't really need to expand much as you only need small amounts of a few items which only need starting resources

around T3 however the game kinda slowly pushes you to expand to other places and eventually have factories all over the map

how much you actually expand is up to you, some people just ship everything to a single place and build there (the "megafactory" approach), however the game is designed more with expansion and exploration in mind, so personally I'd recommend expanding as soon as you find it viable

[golden nexus]

Add 8 coal power and 4 extractors about 4 stacks of copper sheet and add 4 pumps and concrete foundations for 6*10 worth of tiles to the todo list

[silk ocean]

The game gets a whole lot better once you get past biomass burners and have fully automated power

[pulsar glade]

ok thank you man

[broken quarry]

so whats the downside to taking resources back to my base for power?

[golden nexus]

Meanwhile.. the power plant 😛 #screenshots message

[reef basin]

unnecessary logistics

if you have resources somewhere, use them where you have them

[golden nexus]

You need water to be with the coal

You can move the coal + water where ever you like, but based on your question this is your first coal power plant

If you started in the grass fields put it with the coal nodes to the north

simply because it will end up like this #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Bit more compact than my nuclear XD
#screenshots message

Considering how green the grasslands is, there ain't much water in places, couple of measly ponds

[golden nexus]

Have made it before with a coal plant running in the puddle

[silk ocean]

You can squeeze 4 or 5 extractors into that pond

[golden nexus]

yeah and overclock them

[silk ocean]

Yea

[pulsar glade]

when theres like a a bluge over a recorce node how do i get it off

[silk ocean]

E on it

[golden nexus]

i did something odd though... put it in the pond towards the 3 concrete nodes, then brought in oil and switched it to pet coke for a while

[golden nexus]

Yup here we go... #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Tasty

[golden nexus]

Trains can bring oil back now they dont need computers

[broken quarry]

I have water near my base but not coal might just move the coal to the water

[golden nexus]

You in the grass fields? this is your first coal gen?

[broken quarry]

yea?

[golden nexus]

Do it in the big crater thing to the north of the grass fields over the hill with the 4 coal nodes

[broken quarry]

uhhhh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450239538046828726/image.png?ex=6941d052&is=69407ed2&hm=7fd1b754fe4d9b0b38034467a13000133f45ba6810f85f1de4284c4b339c5ef5&

[quaint ibex]

guys i built a train but it says docking and brake and cant move

what do i do?

[silk ocean]

Have you set the schedule?

[quaint ibex]

yes

[silk ocean]

Set it to go to the remote station first and see what happens

[golden nexus]

here #screenshots message

[broken quarry]

bettt time to travel far........................

[quaint ibex]

ok now its moving but every time i want it to leave i have to manually click on stop docking?

[golden nexus]

yeah... take a lot of stuff iwth you especially plate+concrete... there is an iron, copper, concrete node there as well as 4 coal nodes (1 capped)

[quaint ibex]

even though docking time is only 10 seconds it doesnt start moving

ok it works now

[gentle lion]

Does the giant flying creature ever despawn if your on it....lol

[silk ocean]

Docking takes 27 seconds

[quaint ibex]

i mean the wait time

[silk ocean]

10 seconds won't delay it, minimum time is 27 secs

Setting it to 10 just means it will immediately depart once loading/unloading completed

Isn't oil a long way away from the grass fields @golden nexus xD

[golden nexus]

@silk ocean You can see i get a plastic/rubber setup in the grass field for the "starter base" - The start base goes to T8/9 parts

[silk ocean]

Seems slightly more than a starterbase xD

[golden nexus]

Gets pulled in on train

[golden nexus]

Naaa its s atsrter base

[silk ocean]

Yea it's like 1.5km away

[wicked yew]

Can anyone help, for oil to fuel
Is it better to go the alt recipe heavy oil residue/polymer resin then to fuel or the straight oil to fuel/polymer resin?

[golden nexus]

Theres a few factories not in it now.. like a 20/min CO factory... and a 300/min stator factory

[golden nexus]

it depends

[wicked yew]

What it depend on?

[golden nexus]

Crude -> HOR -> Diluted Fuel -> Turbo Fuel -> ..... is realy the path

Depend on what you have... like blender?

[wicked yew]

Only got on milestone 6 so no blender and haven't unlocked the turbo fuel yet

[golden nexus]

you trying to get power? plastic? rubber? what?

[wicked yew]

Power with plastic/rubber as a side bonus

[golden nexus]

Then do a plastic/rubber setup and convert the HOR to fuel and burn it

[broken quarry]

is this enough?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1450243898508312747/image.png?ex=6941d461&is=694082e1&hm=aa6125d75305aecaf4ebf9817251a47d45dd1b66375034b58ed0bf84aa782117&

[golden nexus]

it is for an intial. suggest a few more rplate.. its really concrete+plate for floor as well

[wicked yew]

So I'm getting this right, do the recipes that gives 2 rubber/2m³ HOR and 2 plastic/1m³ HOR?

[golden nexus]

Yeah standard recipie for plastc / rubber. Don't recommend the others until much later

Its 300/min crude to each 10xplastic and 10xrubber

[wicked yew]

Take it the other ones are better for turbo fuel?

[golden nexus]

thats what this is.. standard mid-game plastic/rubber #screenshots message

[wicked yew]

And is that using one pure oil node?

[golden nexus]

Better screenshot of layout #screenshots message

Though that one dumps a mix of pet coke and fuel

The 200/min plastic and 200/min rubber gives you 300/min HOR... you need to sink / use it all

So fuel + burn or pet coke + sink

[wicked yew]

Okay, last question
Looking up turbo fuel and which recipe is better the default one of fuel and compacted coal or the alt: turbo heavy fuel?

[golden nexus]

or some of both. Its common to also throw off some packaged fuel etc...

[golden nexus]

Its compacted coal.. i would suggest you hold off until blender ....

Let me go get screenshot of that.....

So this is small turbo fuel... the gens are 200% each #screenshots message

So thats a 300/min crude -> HOR(10xref) -> Blender(8x) / Diluted fuel -> 2x18xRef / Turbo Fuel -> 40xGens + Change

I take a chunk off hte back for drones etc...

[broken quarry]

can I merge 2 miners on a mk1 conveyer or is that too much throughput, how would I calculate such things?

[golden nexus]

For your coal plant its mk1 miner -> mk1 belt -> 4xCoal gens

[broken quarry]

OH DAMN 4 coal gens per miner oof I under crafted

[golden nexus]

What is comon. You setup 2 bank of 4 gens. Then plan to expand both banks to 8 gens.... feel free to repeat to the next bank

[tall lantern]

how much does one miner make (depends on node purity, miner tier, overclocking), and how much can a mk1 belt do?

[golden nexus]

If you get power shareds + mk2 belts you overclock the miners to 200% to fill the belt

[quick wing]

when you scan a hard drive and get to choose between the biocoal and charcoal recipes...

[broken quarry]

60 / 60 so yea it will max one belt

[tall lantern]

you hit Rescan 🎉

[quick wing]

I may just leave it in the hard drive library so it doesnt roll either again

[tall lantern]

(or if you're flush with drives, hold it to keep them both out of the future pool indefinitely)

[golden nexus]

@broken quarry Should plan for the mk1 miner to turn to mk2 and also be overclocked to 200% later with mk3 belts you get 240/min each belts eg 16xCoal gen per bank

[kind glacier]

Guys I finally got satisfactory on my Xbox. I've been waiting for it for years I can finally play it now 😭

[native frost]

youll move onto fuel to turbo pretty fast but imo mk2 miners are big so get on them

[broken quarry]

kk so just focus on one miner for now?

[outer aurora]

At what point should I stop building basic coal, I got about 800mw now and the circuit breaker tripped again

Haven't found how to get whatever the next generator is

[golden nexus]

Yeah....

[golden nexus]

you need more

[outer aurora]

Good to know I am not missing anything, will go find more coal

[golden nexus]

Its like ~2400 should work

[golden nexus]

To give you perspective. mk2 miners with mk3 belts, 2xnormal nodes gives you 2400

[sand valve]

hello asking for friends but does anyone know whats up with streaming the game on discord. it doesn't work unless you stream your whole screen anyone know why?

[golden nexus]

it does work for people

[sand valve]

ooo lovely. how so?

[golden nexus]

Like it works for everyone.. not working is the exception....

[sand valve]

any ideas why it wouldn't work for some people?

[glad quest]

wdym its not streaming the entire

oh wait culd be cuz of resolution

[broken quarry]

how do I kick start the coal? bio mass?

[short root]

I am always confused that the Packaged Sulfuric Acid shares the same canister icon as the Packaged Nitric Acid, but the Packaged Sulfuric Acid needs Empty Canisters whereas the Packaged Nitric Acid needs Empty Fluid Tanks.

I don't know how often I went to the unpackaging station of the Packaged Nitric Acid and wondered why there come Empty Fluid Tanks out of it instead of Empty Canisters, but the recipe is right.

[ocean frost]

Sulfuric acid will eat aluminum I believe

[broken quarry]

noooooooo I started working on site and forgot the copper sheeting 😭

[reef basin]

build depots 🙂

[broken quarry]

depots?

[reef basin]

dimensional depot

basically remotely-accessible storage for building stuff

[short root]

Okay but why do the Nitric Acis then need Fluid Tanks, i.e., Aluminium Casings instead of Canisters? Would it eat the Plastic?

[broken quarry]

what tier do I get those? or is that mam research?

[ocean frost]

Nitric acid eats plastic

[reef basin]

MAM

[ocean frost]

Look for Sam ore

[short root]

Interesting... so the Sulfuric Acid canister that looks the same as the Nitric Acid canister is made out of Plastic while the latter is out of Aluminium.

Just confusing that they didn't use a different model for the Packaged Nitric Acid tough...

[ocean frost]

Probably ran out of colours to use

Where is the plastic for the screws

[reef basin]

the container isn't plastic, it's metal

[broken quarry]

wait so stock coal gens only make 75mw?

[golden nexus]

yes

[broken quarry]

so its equal to 1 bio mass gen?

[reef basin]

no?

[golden nexus]

see my point about 2 banks of 4? then 8 then 16 then 32?

[reef basin]

biomass gen does 20 or 30 MW

based on whether it's built one, or the hub one

[broken quarry]

oh I was looking at production

[wicked nacelle]

Each power tier makes significantly more per building than the prior

[reef basin]

well, the only one I'd call "significantly more" is nuclear, which is x10 multiplier

most others are like x2-x3 multipliers

[wicked nacelle]

???

[dusty whale]

Hey just wondering i play satisfactory on pc have done since it first came out but now its on console is it possible to bring the save files from pc to console or can you downloaded the save files from the cloud im looking to get the game on ps5 but dont know if i can carry on working on my world on the console

[reef basin]

30->75 = 2.5 multiplier
75->250 = 3.333 multiplier

[wicked nacelle]

If you got a 3x raise at work you’d probably say that was significantly more. And not everyone has to agree on the definition of every word either you

[reef basin]

???

[golden nexus]

What is the total power per building though?

For each type of power of course

[reef basin]

power per which building? 🤔

per gen?

[golden nexus]

So if you do biomass, you need constructors, what is the total building count per Watt?

If you do coal + extracotrs. total buuilding power per watt...

[reef basin]

pretty much impossible to answer given practically infinite ways to make the different fuels

[wind siren]

biomass should only ever be temporary

[golden nexus]

really?

[wind siren]

its purpose is to get you TO coal power and beyond

[golden nexus]

it does?

[pulsar glade]

Is there like an app for like prepping and like planing or what

[wind siren]

and then as a supplemental fuel for like the jetpack in liquid form etc

[golden nexus]

So i should not try to run my quantum encoder on biomass then?

[reef basin]

you can have a look at https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/

[wind siren]

if you want to test yourself....sure

[golden nexus]

you seem cluessless to the context.. 😉

[pulsar glade]

Thank you

[broken quarry]

is it normall for my water to go from 50 to 49/50 randomly

[reef basin]

in a building consuming water?

[broken quarry]

oh it just tanked??? now im sitting above 20?

somethings up with my water

[lunar python]

just put some pumps

[reef basin]

only if it's headlift issue

[golden nexus]

Need to see how its setup.. then figure out what to do

[lunar python]

trust me bro use pumps

[golden nexus]

First of all. How many gens? How many exactors?

[reef basin]

pumps rarely help in situations where the issue is something else than headlift

[golden nexus]

you don't even know how many gens are there and what shape they are....

[broken quarry]

4 gens 1 mine 2 extractors

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 thread with images

[golden nexus]

Screenshot an overall view

[broken quarry]

I added a pump and the issue is solved but let me make a post

[lunar python]

haha screw yall

[reef basin]

then it was either headlift issue, or the issue moved elsewhere

[golden nexus]

good case of.. i don't know why my codes not working... change something... i don't know why my code is working.....

the person isn't better off for it

[reef basin]

ah yeah, the "pump maybe solved it" is a definite proof that every single issue is solvable by pumps and that OP's issue is solved and didn't just move elsewhere

[lunar python]

all i hear is wahh

[golden nexus]

All i see is troll

[lunar python]

if pumps worked, it was a headlift issue

[broken quarry]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1450270801780543693

[lunar python]

which also happens to be 90% of the issues new players have with pumps

[reef basin]

we don't know yet if they worked

and looking at the images, pumps weren't needed

(apart from the one in front of extractors)

[golden nexus]

and now with your advice they clearly have too many pumps

[lunar python]

too many pumps that work

[reef basin]

that are pointless

[golden nexus]

they all i the wrong places... so usless/bad advice

[limpid cairn]

[lunar python]

useless?

nono it worked

[sly karma]

Question: How do I talk about and ask people to join my server without it being unsolicited advertising?

[ocean frost]

Looking for group

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758

:p

[lunar python]

:3

[reef basin]

it most likely didn't do anything relevant

[ocean frost]

Sounds like something the Grinch would say

[lunar python]

dunno what it says but i agree

[ocean frost]

Think of it as an early fixmas mirricle

[reef basin]

looking at the thread - it was a headlift issue and the placed pump didn't actually help at all, pipes just filled up a bit more while placing pumps so it looked like it helped

[lunar python]

it did in fact help actually ??

[normal dagger]

Any Tips on getting from a to b semi fast in early game?

Spend more time running while building my coal power plant then actually building it

[limpid cairn]

bunny hop

[lunar python]

research quartz!!

[normal dagger]

Spam space bar?

[limpid cairn]

Also depending on your belt level you can make some sort of belt booster

[limpid cairn]

Slide and jump

[normal dagger]

U can slide????

[lunar python]

c

[limpid cairn]

[normal dagger]

Dafuq

How long has that been in the game?

[limpid cairn]

I’d guess since the start but I joined after 1.1

So don’t trust me

[lunar python]

did they nerf slide jumping in 1.1?

i swear doing it in 1.0 wouldnt limit your speed gain

[limpid cairn]

I’m pretty sure they buffed it

[golden nexus]

opposite...

[golden nexus]

It doesn't you can jump like this in game, its just your movement sucks #satisfactory-experimental message

That vidoe clip is without blade runners 😉

[broken quarry]

phase 2 is gonna suck tier 3 I really have to automate right? crafting is gonna hurt me long term

[golden nexus]

avoid hand crafting, you will think your making progress but you really just kicking cans to the wall at the end of the road

[fallen moss]

yk, I think it would be cool if satisfactory had like a motor bike or sum, or hover bike

[ivory condor]

Yes you really should get into the habit of automating everything as much as you can, its the name of the game

[golden nexus]

Factory cart not cutting it?

[ivory condor]

that and you cant handcraft space elevator parts anyways, so those have to be fully automated to

[broken quarry]

be glad ADA gave us the go kart

[golden nexus]

Hypertubes as well.....

[ivory condor]

in short besides very specific cases where it can make sense, i generally recommend avoiding handcrafting much past the very early game where you have to

[fallen moss]

its too slidey for exploring and it would just be nice to have something small and nimble, not getting caught on everything. just a thought lol

[golden nexus]

You can get aronud normally with a few slides + jetpack see video i linked above for speed example....

theres a few old school quake3 movement tricks that work

[ivory condor]

well there is a reason its called a factory cart, aka it works much better on foundations for example

and because it requires no fuel, its essentially free transporting of materials, if you want to use vehicles to do it and not use any sort of fuel also

[fallen moss]

I know, I'm talking exploration, something that could zip around trees and stuff

[broken quarry]

do I make seperate factories for like Rplates for like personal use and for other builds like smart plates?

[golden nexus]

hahahhahaha 🙂

[fallen moss]

you don't just use a splitter?

[golden nexus]

Its really up to you, theres a lot of ways to game it, theres a lot of wrong answers, a lot of right answers....

[broken quarry]

I could but wont that reduce throughput

[golden nexus]

like you can hand load machines....

[broken quarry]

I guess thats true, my brain is just trying to be efficient? guess I just gotta go for it

[fallen moss]

Just depends on how often you use it, and if I only want a little bit to come out of the main project I just run two of the port to main and one to storage

[golden nexus]

or you can go nuts... #screenshots message

[fallen moss]

Yeah, just do it Josh's way from lets game it out lol

[golden nexus]

Or you can break your GPU fan

[broken quarry]

hills and valleys it is

[golden nexus]

If you want asuggesiton, build rotor and rplates... your going to need them... lots of them

[broken quarry]

lol my rx7600 is at 100% utilization

[golden nexus]

Your going to get asked for 1500 smart plate next phase.....

[fallen moss]

TRUCKLOADS of rotors and rplates

[ivory condor]

or you can go a little more crazy like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf_yEz6vRCI

[fallen moss]

.... I'm not sure how to feel about this

[ivory condor]

funny when the player structures even eclipse the space elevator itself

[golden nexus]

6 pasta a minute 🙂

[broken quarry]

oh yea I noticed very eye opening

[golden nexus]

I have a 50/minute building somewhere

[broken quarry]

so 25 assembleers? wild

[golden nexus]

heh

[ivory condor]

Still not crazy enough, here let see what else I can find

[golden nexus]

thats another 50/min #screenshots message

[broken quarry]

what should I go for after coal pwer tier 3?

[golden nexus]

more coal

[broken quarry]

still have 70mw give or take

and thhats not including the stuff Im about to disassemble

[golden nexus]

7,200 ingots/min smelter 😛 #screenshots message

[ivory condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAFxpbpw7XM 15k iron ingots/min, its not that many

[golden nexus]

i am never doing pure iron again lol

[ivory condor]

hahahaha

[golden nexus]

Its just not worth it....

Especially when you can drop in blueprint smelters which can deal with 600/min etc...

[leaden arch]

Not me, currently routing all iron on the map to one massive refinery

[ivory condor]

It can be worth it if your fine with using mods, because larger designers mean you can actually do decent size refinery blueprints

It just that only works with modded blueprints unfortunately, because you can get much larger blueprints that way

[compact flicker]

How ya doin today Pioneers?

Oh wow I didn't realize how dead chat was

[real shale]

All the pioneers are busy saving the kittens and puppies

[slate kiln]

@golden nexus where is the crude oil?