satisfactory

[magic nest]

i’m thinking about making the aluminum beam for versatile framework

still gotta make field generators

[strong fiber]

I need soo many alternates than i thought i gotta make a whole list

[hard ivy]

I just handfeed those

No point in automating space elevator parts imo

Except phase 5 ones for points if you want the nut

[strong fiber]

Bruh i automated phase 2 parts

Smart plating versatile frameworks and automated wiring

[magic nest]

please don’t say i’ve been automating these things for them to never be used ever again

[strong fiber]

I also cut power to that building cuz i dont need it rn

[magic nest]

please lie to me or something

SIGH

[strong fiber]

Ion think they are except in some recipes

[feral jay]

You will never need versatile frameworks again

[strong fiber]

bruh

[magic nest]

i meant the magnetic field generator

[strong fiber]

that ain’t never used again bru

[magic nest]

[strong fiber]

Atleast you can sink them

👍

[hard ivy]

With the exception of pasta, all space elevator parts are only needed for the elevator

But for example phase 2 parts are needed to make phase 3 parts which are needed for phase 4 parts which are needed for phase 5 parts

But after you complete phase 5, you don't need a single one ever again. Hell, other than sinking, you can't even use any of them. Again, except pasta

[magic nest]

sigh

[strong fiber]

So just hand feed from now on

got it

[hard ivy]

I mean they're an excellent source of points

But if you sink overflow from all of your factories, you kinda don't really need the points until the golden nut

[strong fiber]

i dont want that gang

i dont want my nuts golden

[magic nest]

i’m so incredibly sad right know i hope you guys know

[strong fiber]

you only wasted a few hours

atleast i can use smart plating and automated wiring i have to make phase 3 parts

[magic nest]

more like 16 trying to get more power so i can power whole factories over it

[strong fiber]

🫡

[magic nest]

and i haven’t even started it

380 fuel powered generators

sigh

[strong fiber]

I got 20 generators so good for u

Im done with this game for tonight though

[exotic pilot]

when will you be able to amke bundle of ornaments

[clear mesa]

You can

[exotic pilot]

wdym

[clear mesa]

You already can?

[exotic pilot]

in what machine

[hard ivy]

When you unlock it in the MAM

[clear mesa]

The ornament bundle is available, we have iron and copper ornaments

[clear mesa]

Assembler

Iron and copper ornaments together

[exotic pilot]

#screenshots message

[clear mesa]

Share a screenshot of your mam upgrades on the ficsmas section

[exotic pilot]

i did it

[clear mesa]

I'm not sure what your issue would be then

I have it in vanilla on my playthrough

[exotic pilot]

is there any way i can fix it?

[hard ivy]

The issue is that you have to unlock the lights

Or at least you do according to the wiki

[clear mesa]

Really?

[exotic pilot]

but dont you need day 14 for htat/

[clear mesa]

No day 14 is the middle unlock

The lights are somewhere on the left

[hard ivy]

No, the lights are the left upgrade

[exotic pilot]

but the stupid lights are connected to the day 14 thing

[hard ivy]

They're not

[exotic pilot]

why can i do them now??

[clear mesa]

They're not connected to it

[exotic pilot]

wdymm

[clear mesa]

They're adjacent to it

There's a small vertical line on the day 14 one extending outwards

[exotic pilot]

oh

omg im so stupid

[clear mesa]

Anyways, do the ficsmas light research, that will give you the recipe :)

[exotic pilot]

thanks guys

[clear mesa]

Ofc

[sterile blade]

Sometimes we all are. We just try to minimize it

[exotic pilot]

been so confused

[clear mesa]

Happens

[main oak]

Uhm huhlo

[exotic pilot]

i got 6% on my english and 28% on my maths exam

im always stupid

[clear mesa]

😞 focus on school

[exotic pilot]

iie

[clear mesa]

Getting better math grades will help u in satisfactory

[exotic pilot]

thats called built in calc

[sterile blade]

No, it's the other way around

[clear mesa]

Calculators are used in math exams too :p

[clear mesa]

The math in satisfactory is not nearly as complicated unless you're in secondary school

[exotic pilot]

do i need to do trig in satisfactory?

[clear mesa]

Hmmmmm maybe

[hard ivy]

If you want to build a circle or grid-aligned diagonals, probably

[exotic pilot]

circle??

[clear mesa]

The 2d shape with 0 corners

Looool

[sterile blade]

There's enough problem solving and complexity to make you better at math, unironically

[exotic pilot]

what does a circle have to do with trigonometry

[sterile blade]

Ofc, I'm not saying one is going to learn better math, but being able to think things through is a strong skill

[exotic pilot]

is it 0 or infinite

[rose pollen]

I just automated 150 nuclear pasta a min.

🤣 your insane im not

[exotic pilot]

what the sidequest

ok i was about to say

[rose pollen]

I need it😪

[exotic pilot]

?

would there even be enough copper for that much nuclear pasta

[hard ivy]

For 750 simultaneously active portal pairs?

[rose pollen]

Wrong part

Well not wrong part

[clear mesa]

Oh no I believe that dw haha

[rose pollen]

And there is very much enough copper woth pure recipes and alta

[sterile blade]

Iirc, there's enough for 60/min with spare, so with slooping it should be doable

[rose pollen]

Pressure conversion cubes i meant

[clear mesa]

Both

[rose pollen]

Im producing 150 a min of those

Nuclear pasta ia 1 a min rn

[hard ivy]

There's a big difference between 150 pasta and 150 PCCs/min lol

[exotic pilot]

COPPA

[rose pollen]

Ive been building a giga space part factory

[hard ivy]

72000 copper ore, to be exact

[rose pollen]

Sll day my brain is fried

[sterile blade]

I'm making 69 HMFs/min
No, wait, I meant Modular Frames...

[exotic pilot]

yummy

[clear mesa]

I hate modular frames, all kinds

[rose pollen]

The nuclear reacted chain im making tho is gonna be worth it i want no less than 150 nuclear plants i need the pressure conversion cubes

[exotic pilot]

yes hate on frames of all kinds

[rose pollen]

And frames fucking suck

[hard ivy]

With conversion, there's enough for double that. So with slooping you could almost definitely do 150. But not much else besides that

[rose pollen]

The only one I domt mind is framework

[hard ivy]

I'll take HMFs over VF any day

[exotic pilot]

heck no

[rose pollen]

Hmf is made easy with double concrete

Encased and concrete

The line for fused modular makes me wanna jump off the great wall

[sterile blade]

Casts painful Frame #screenshots message

[clear mesa]

I forget you love sushi belts

Even with it in your name

[rose pollen]

I cant wait to habe to automate over 500 synthetic power shards a min to keep up with my rocket fuel plant either 🤣

[rose pollen]

Is there even enough coal?

[sterile blade]

Hey, each input of a manufacturer is a square hole, so... 🤷‍♂️

[hard ivy]

I hope you have at least a few augmenters set up. Otherwise this is gonna be a huge waste of power and resources

[rose pollen]

Ive got 3 augmented up rn

On 120 gw

[hard ivy]

Or let's be honest, it's gonna be a waste of resources anyway

Ionized fuel is trash for power

[rose pollen]

Yes but! Ionised fuel! And infinite power shards!

Ie very efficient factorys

[sterile blade]

The most wasted resources are the ones sitting unmined in nodes :P

[rose pollen]

The temp are the most wasted

I forget abt them unless there in my way for building

[sterile blade]

"Temp"?

[clear mesa]

Temporary

[rose pollen]

The little rocks

[hard ivy]

There are no temporary nodes

[rose pollen]

That have 50 to 60 per yes there are lmao

They dont grow back

[hard ivy]

Those are deposits, not nodes

[rose pollen]

Temporary nodes is the technical name no?

[worldly pelican]

You used the word „nodes“ 😉

[rose pollen]

They show up on my map as temporary🤷

[whole drum]

Stop it. You're all wrong. They are just different flavors of "rocks."

[worldly pelican]

I prefer the term „thingies“ 😄

[hard ivy]

A temp ping on the scanner is not a deposit lol

[whole drum]

Acceptable. Minimally. ADA would be ashamed.

[rose pollen]

My favourite are the shiny green gushers

As long as you dont have too many you'll be ok

[whole drum]

Those are spicy meatballs

[worldly pelican]

Efficiency. Don‘t need to remind the exact term, no delays in talking, just always use the term „thingie“ 😉

[rose pollen]

There only spicy meat balls once there turned into ficsonium fuel rods

[whole drum]

I suppose if you're using it as a more technical term for "parts," it could work.

[sterile blade]

Am I blind or are there really no power numbers mentioned in neither the "clock speed", or "power shard" wiki pages?! O.o

[silk ocean]

All my trains seem a bit bugged - they stop a bit far forward in the stations, a bit out of line with the crane. Still works, just odd

[rose pollen]

If you dont hear from me by Christmas the nuclear reactors have taken me

[whole drum]

!wikisearch power shard

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=power+shard

[rose pollen]

Im working on it😅

[whole drum]

Looks like Overclocking is its own page

!wikisearch clock speed

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=clock+speed

[whole drum]

Wow, you have to go to "advanced clock speed" to get to those numbers. Not a great look for the wiki. Just shove that page on the clock speed page and make a different header for it.

[sterile blade]

Bruh...

[whole drum]

Fandom has it on the first go

Kinda hard to tell people not to use it if it's easier to use

[silk ocean]

Many probably do in reality

[sterile blade]

@true mulch Oi! You guys are letting Fandom be more useful than our wiki?!?
||See convo around below #satisfactory message for context||

[silk ocean]

It's quite a specific thing most wiki-goers won't be looking for methinks

[whole drum]

Except power shard usage and the questions around it are not very niche

[sterile blade]

I think that how overclock affects power is a pretty basic info when considering overclocking

[silk ocean]

Overclocking yea true

It does link to Power Shards 7 times on that page xD

[sterile blade]

Like... What's the point of saying "you can change the speed of your machine at the cost of power. Specifically, from 1% to 250% of its speed" and completely leave out the power you mentioned? 😆 (I'm paraphrasing)

[hard ivy]

I didn't even notice because I found that formula once and now I calculate the power myself

[bitter shuttle]

im making my fuel power plant and... im thinking that the pipes won't hold up

[sterile blade]

Where one pipe isn't enough, two can ^^

[whole drum]

Praise!

[hard ivy]

Disclaimer: may need to apply this recursively

[lucid sandal]

Hey, I'm a long time lurker here and just need a bit of advice. Not sure when the best time/place to ask is, so here we go. My buddy and I have been building a world for >200 hours; 2 weeks ago we can play without issue, and now he crashes every time he connects (takes 3 minutes to load, then crashout). This bug was first noted in July 2025 by someone else (1.1 release), but it was never even acknowledged. It's 100% blocking for us. It's 100% blocking for other players. We've logged the bug on the QA site, but I now fear it will fall into the void like the report from July. Please give me some ideas for how to have it seen and reviewed, what to test, and possible work arounds, anything. We will try anything suggested.

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69363300d94d9330b8369b1b

Seeing the same bug reported in July and never fixed just made us despondent. Summary: Crash on connect, new world works, establish world fails, looks like blueprint-related in crash logs, but it's actually the Unreal blueprint system and LightweightBuildableSubsystem.

[whole drum]

You might look into releasing the object limit

Barring that, filing the bug is the only other thing you can really do

[silk ocean]

Running a dedicated server? Ports changed in 1.1

[lucid sandal]

Not dedicated server. connection works for fresh world. No difference in internet connectivity for either of us since last successful session.

[magic nest]

i am now officially making plates rods screws steel pipes and wires from iron only now to find out wtf to do with it

[silk ocean]

Hmm yea as Gilga mentioned I guess, something map related it sounds like

[magic nest]

idk i found a flat spot with 3 pure nodes so i just felt like making use of it

might just make a dedicated screw train lol

goes all over the map bringing screws all over the world

[silk ocean]

DM me your save if you like, I can load it onto my LAN server and see what happens

[main oak]

i bought this game 14 hours ago and havent stopped. uh oh

[chilly tide]

standard newbie

[edgy hedge]

I just completed Phase 3 and now Tier 6 is flashing at me on the Milestone Selector.
Anyone offer any explanation as to why it's flashing?
I've completed all the Milestones

Okay, a little reading says it's a bug. I selected a Milestone in Tier 7 and Tier 6 stopped flashing. It's not greyed out though.

[whole drum]

Try reload?

[edgy hedge]

Oh, that fixed it

[magic nest]

when i first bought it i spent a full 48 hours playing without a break longer than a hour

welcome to satisfactory

[main oak]

shit

[magic nest]

i had a weekend off :)

[main oak]

are there resources for like layouts or ideas or syhould i just youtube on top of my messing around

[sterile blade]

You can make a thread in #1038092680493801533 where the convo won't get lost and you can add media too (probably worth copy-pasting the whole thing)

[reef basin]

tbh I'd suggest making your own layouts rather than copying someone else's mistakes

[finite anchor]

This is probably an extremely dumb question, but is it possible to 'animate' things in this game?
I want to build a turbine in the waterfall that looks like its turning with the water, but I cant think of any way to achieve that..

[leaden turret]

#design-and-architecture and/or https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/

[leaden turret]

• no
• if you wanna hand-craft some stop motion animation instead of playing the game, sure

I mean you can build a turbine in the water but it won't turn

[dense violet]

mods

[finite anchor]

I'm open to recommendations

[leaden turret]

I recommend putting your turbine in a housing so you can't see it, thus no need to animate it

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

You can find items that move in mods on their own but doubt you can custom them.

I do for a fact know that refined power has moving turbines you can place down?
use another mod to shift the mother places

[leaden turret]

typo ftw

anyone see if the idiot from this morning got yeeted?

[dense violet]

which idiot was that?

[leaden turret]

-# shift the mother places

[sterile blade]

I'm still here

[dense violet]

I know there was some mod pings but wasn't really paying attention

[leaden turret]

the one that came in to break the rules intentionally

[dense violet]

didn't read through it, didn't have the spoons to give. Just annoying?

[leaden turret]

baby troll, but pervasive.

[ivory condor]

I havent got banned yet

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I was about to ask when... XD

[ivory condor]

As soon as the mods remember what they forgot to do

[true mulch]

I see, I'll look into that

[ivory condor]

It's ok we all know the fandom is the true source for accurate information

[fiery pewter]

Hey you. That confusing train junction I was talking about earlier that would split straight through traffic and turning traffic? It doesn't work signal wise, but that's only if I keep everything level. Has something to do with the signals of the straight through tracks being unable to check if their path is clear

I think I'm going to highway junction it

[dense violet]

If I recall correctly I didn't really understand what you were trying to do with that junction in the first place xD

[hard ivy]

Pics?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[fiery pewter]

Ain't got those, but picture this:
The standard 4 way junction with 2 tracks each direction. Now imagine it as if the turning tracks stayed, but the straight through tracks split of earlier, and run on the tile next to the turning tracks

Maybe I can get some pics later today

[hard ivy]

Yeah, no, I can't picture this

[modest ibex]

Does anyone know why my fuses are blowing when I am producing more power than consuming?

[silk ocean]

Something must be spiking at some point

Even for a fraction of a second

[hard ivy]

You're not producing more than you're consuming

[vocal wolf]

happey early ficsmas everybody

[silk ocean]

Add battery storage or generate more power

[frozen cloud]

anyone have a screenshot of the power storage "battery is draining" warning?

[gritty sable]

Guys how much a train gain transfer per freight car ? Like how much is the maximum per min at the output of the station ?

[leaden turret]

the issue with train throughput is the cap imposed by the load/unload cycle shutting off any buffered output / halting input.

transfer is going to be capped by max available belt speed x2

[gritty sable]

So if at one side i give 480 per min and the other side i want 480 per min with a buffred its okay ?

[leaden turret]

probably

unless you accidentally stick a slower belt on it

[gritty sable]

Like im using train for the maximum amount of 180 per min atm, but i need to know that for my coal gen plant

[gritty sable]

ofc 😂

[leaden turret]

reminder that having coal supply coming by train is going to be subject to the whims of your electrical supply to the train station.

one bad power cut and you're stuck 😛

[gritty sable]

So its not the best idea, its better to do it with conveyor

I have coal at diffrent place, i just want to regroup all

[leaden turret]

nah it's fine, just have the coal plant power the train line for it's supply route & don't accidentally join it with another train network

[gritty sable]

Its gonna be a single rail way only for this with many stops

[leaden turret]

same principle as giving a portion of the power generation supply solely to powering the miners & water extractors; supplies keep coming in a power cut to the main grid

[gritty sable]

Yeah i gonna put a switch on it, just to control it and give it independence, to make sure it always work

The point i dont really know how much docks i have to put

[reef basin]

my rule of thumb is one per belt

[gritty sable]

Like i have three stops, so for me its three docks but evry stops dont give same amount of coal

[reef basin]

do A<->B trains 🙂

[gritty sable]

Yep thats what i want to do

[reef basin]

then you don't care about naything you said

[gritty sable]

like A<--B-->C

[reef basin]

that's not A<->B

[gritty sable]

Yeah put its the same goal, just with one stop in the middle

[reef basin]

well that's not what I was recommending

[gritty sable]

What u recommend is, if i have a three stop, put one train for each on the same line and do roundtrip for each ?

[reef basin]

I recommend A to B trains. Each train has two stations only

[gritty sable]

So A is my coal gen plant and B my coal miners plant, and do that for all of my coal miner plant ?

[reef basin]

it's one way to do it, yeah

[gritty sable]

So why this and Not the same train for all of my miners plant ?

[fluid sapphire]

thats a lot of work for coal power though

its just easier

[gritty sable]

I just want to optimise it to get on oil power

[mortal ginkgo]

Curious, why not have coal plant in the same place the coal miners are? Water is almost always near coal too.

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need to worry about timings if you have separate trains

A to B is to most simple setup you can have, the simpler the setup, the less headache involved

even if you need to build more stations, which is barely an effort at all (certainly less effort than troubleshooting more complex setups)

[gritty sable]

Cuz im taking nodes along the ocean in the desert part, its a straight line, i dont want to do one plant at one place and 5O0m away doing the same

[reef basin]

it's easier to build near nodes than centralised though

and yes, A<->B trains are very simple and don't leave much room for error

[fluid sapphire]

coal power is a stop gap, the sooner you move on from it the better

[mortal ginkgo]

I get it. I also assume if you are preparing for trains you surely have access to fuel which is way better than coal... But you can do indeed A to B.

I would personally suggest going for fuel if you got trains going on already. It is chungus power compared to meh coal.

[fluid sapphire]

right? coal power just isnt worth that level of effort

[gritty sable]

Like i said i want to optimise it before getting on oil production

[fluid sapphire]

whats there to optimize

[gritty sable]

Actually my coal power plant r on MK1 miners, but i have already unlock by a long time MK2

[cursive crane]

You do it enough you can get some blueprints going for it that make it much easier/faster to spinup extra coal power plants. Especially with the new autoconnect feature

[reef basin]

that doesn't matter though

[mortal ginkgo]

I think your coal setup is so smol that after a few fuel burners, you can just simply remove them

[reef basin]

just keep it as it is, no reason to touch it if it works

[mortal ginkgo]

and spend the optimization time on fuel instead. Trust us when we say fuel is much better than coal.

[fluid sapphire]

i was talking about setting up train lines specifically to centralize coal power

which seems to be the core of the topic here

[gritty sable]

I know that, i have gone one time trough the game

[cursive crane]

Yall forget that coal power introduces fluids/belt inputs. Its a good step to experiment/learn the basics to be more prepared for oil

[mortal ginkgo]

my brotherman is already at train setup, he knows how pipes work.

[dense violet]

Make a qna post

[mortal ginkgo]

even with an ultra inefficienct oil setup, one can easily just outdo what coal power provides

[dense violet]

Yeah would need overhead pics

[gritty sable]

Im gonna do a power plant for each coal miner plant i have, forget about trains

[mortal ginkgo]

I wish you forgot about coal plants at train stage but o'well

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/planners/power/index/powerOutput/72000/powerShards/200/generator/Build_GeneratorFuel_C/fuel/Desc_RocketFuel_C

Guys am I miscalculating something or 1200 m3 rocket fuel really provides 72GW of power?

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=RIPeOrAk2hv9BqUICNXk

With dilluted packaged fuel, it hardly asks for any material? Am I missing something?

[fluid sapphire]

it does

[mortal ginkgo]

Holy madness.

Is this why people are spamming 39854308503984509843 fuel gens?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, rocket fuel is .. pretty good

[mortal ginkgo]

it even simply asks 324 crude/oil

[fluid sapphire]

yes, worth it

[reef basin]

yeah, it's why it's not as good and nuclear is imo better

[mortal ginkgo]

Cheers.

[fluid sapphire]

building generators is easy with good blueprints, you can do 600 in 30-60min easy

[formal minnow]

one of the weirdest and most useful random mechanics ive found is the fact that the parachute increases your interact range while its deployed

[mortal ginkgo]

I thought it would at least ask for like, I don't know, one pure oil node.

But asking 300/min oil is truly "silly" in my book.

[fluid sapphire]

its not the oil thats the problem

its the sulfur and nitrogen

in terms of oil, yes its cheap

[mortal ginkgo]

its asking for 460~ min sulfur and nitrogen.

I mean I plan to make maybe 2400/min rocket fuel both for power and drones then fully go yolonuclear but I was just surprised to see the actual power of it all.

[fluid sapphire]

but even so, the returns are crazy, even with the nitro rocket fuel recipe

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah nitro seems "simple but bruh you gonna need alot of resources".

I don't see much of a reason to go nitro at this moment

[fluid sapphire]

blue crater has everything in 1km radius to make 4800 rocket fuel

with the nitro recipe

300GW of power

no reason not to do both rocket fuel and nuclear

i know i will

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah, I want to save almost all oil from power tho'.

[compact flicker]

What do y'all typically do with the western islands oil? There's quite a lot there

[mortal ginkgo]

Good Power Startup to get rid of coal power.
Good production of Resin, Rubber, my mom and Plastic

Good for everything.

[hard ivy]

I did aluminium

[mortal ginkgo]

One of the main reasons Rocky Desert is once again, a goated start up.

[fluid sapphire]

why you would produce resin for the sake of it is beyond me

[compact flicker]

I thought the same thing

[mortal ginkgo]

oh like 30/min for dem anti poison stuff

like, very smol, ultra smol amount.

[fluid sapphire]

you can get that as a byproduct

[novel fog]

Did it start snowing in the game today? Or am I tripping?

[mortal ginkgo]

well I get it as byproduct from heavy oil residue.

ı am not saying "make resin directly",

its just there.

[mortal ginkgo]

Ficsmas event, sometimes snows, sometimes heavy snows, sometimes doesn't etc.

[compact flicker]

Started on dec 1st

[fluid sapphire]

subtext, with it being thrown in there with rubber and plastic, both of which are much more valuable

resin just happens sometimes\

[mortal ginkgo]

2400/min rocket fuel setup provides 432/min resin, I can I can make more plastic with that.

[fluid sapphire]

totally

i use mine to make gas filters and some plastic

[mortal ginkgo]

sounds uber logic

also rocket fuel providing compact fuel is just too OP by itself because it makes turbofuel easier..

if it wasn't strong enough.. I kek.

[fluid sapphire]

i just sink the CC

[mortal ginkgo]

I am sure you are at that stage. I just want to use least and most optimized setup for startup rocket business 😄

[fluid sapphire]

if you want resource efficiency, ditch the idea of the nitro recipe

[reef basin]

depends which resource efficiency 😉

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not planning using that, I am on regular recipe planning.

Nitro seems too wasteful for me.

[fluid sapphire]

fair enough, if you have big plans, makes sense

[mortal ginkgo]

❤️

I mean, the regular rocket fuel setup with blenders is already easy enough to be fair

[fluid sapphire]

some people dont like how much sulfur it costs, i always say you have 7200 sulfur still left over on the map, after making 4800 rocket fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

yeah its "disgusting" how much nitro asks for but if someone aint got ultra large late game plans, all is yolo and fair

[teal quest]

i was wondering, is rtx 2080 enough? like will i be able to build megafactories?

[fluid sapphire]

even if i did, i cant imagine there being a shortage

[mortal ginkgo]

you can save alot of performance by making sure you put stuff behind walls etc.

[fluid sapphire]

megafactories as in thousands of machines close together?

people have different ideas of what a megafactory is, its not just a very large factory

[hard ivy]

You cannot have multiple megafactories

[mortal ginkgo]

See, it starts.

[hard ivy]

You either have a megafactory or you don't

[reef basin]

you can build megafactory no matter what. But how it will run is a different story (and megafactories are generally not recommended anyway)

[teal quest]

that's what i'm asking

will it run in 60 frames?

[teal quest]

yeah

[reef basin]

depends how much you'll build

[fluid sapphire]

it wont, that can bring even the beefiest PCs to their knees

[reef basin]

like... you can have 10 machines, or 100, or 1000, ... You can have no decoration or tons of decoration... impossible to answer such a generic question

[teal quest]

idk, what endgame takes. i wanna make shure that i won't abandon game cause of pc.

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need large factories at all to finish the game

[reef basin]

nothing in the game requires you to have certain production of something. You can technically beat the game with one machine of each type

[fluid sapphire]

spread your factories out, problem solved

[teal quest]

i don't know anything about the game

i'm a casual player

[hard ivy]

I don't think you even need one of each. Like is a foundry truly required?

[teal quest]

i just wanna make sure that i can play it without ploblems

[fluid sapphire]

you can, easy

[teal quest]

and without such "solutions"

[fluid sapphire]

you can very easily build large factories, just ditch the idea of a megafactory, especially if its your first time around

[latent meadow]

how do you get the FICSMAS data cartirdges

[mortal ginkgo]

if you are not going to min/max ultra late game yoloswag, you will be fine regardless.

[hard ivy]

From the calendar

[reef basin]

look, it depends on so many factors, that we cannot reasonably tell you "it will run" or "it won't run"

if you're above minimal requirements, you should be able to play the game

and finish it, unless you go crazy with overbuilding

[fluid sapphire]

i have a 3060ti, which should be similar in performance to a 2080, it runs fine

[reef basin]

megafactories by default decrease performance, because you didn't spread your factories like the game suggests and spreading them reduces workload especially for GPU.

(not to mention it's imo way easier to build spread out than a megafactory)

so go ahead and try it if you want, but don't come back here with gigantic megafactory full of decorations and signs running at 1 FPS and calling us out with "you said it will run"

[fluid sapphire]

very helpful tone towards someone who doesnt know anything about the game

[karmic shore]

i really need help with a simple pipe line setup that just refuses to work

can some1 help 🙁

[fluid sapphire]

#1038092680493801533

[karmic shore]

i didnt find it there take a while

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533 and share images

[karmic shore]

nobody is active there

[reef basin]

all the questions in there get answered

I don't see any recent unanswered post

[fiery pewter]

Then I will do a pic of how it looks like and a pic of the signal works

[reef basin]

and people are literally typing there as we speak

[karmic shore]

i sent it in the ticket of the pipe not working

[fiery pewter]

A block on a train path starts with a path signal and ends with a block signal right?

[fiery pewter]

You're supposed to make your own thread, not use someone else's post

[spice patio]

Blocks are sections between signals, be they path or block.
Blocks are the norm, with paths for special cases.
Train will not enter a block past path signal until it has reserved route through next block signal, past no matter how many sequential path signals.
And multiple trains with completely non-intersecting paths can be inside same block if using path signals as entry signals for that block.

And for block signal entry blocks, only single train can be in that block at same time.

[fiery pewter]

...right

[fluid sapphire]

thats basically almost everything you need to know about signaling, in a single paragraph

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[wind siren]

i always found it less headache to simply run dual track everywhere

[fiery pewter]

Still needs signals

[wind siren]

yeah, but most issues usually started from trying to use a single lane :/

[fiery pewter]

Use one bi-directional train then

[wind siren]

signals for station sidings, and before every intersection and then just a few to make "blocks" out of the main lines

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[wind siren]

was never a fan of a bi train

[fiery pewter]

Bi train looks a bit wrong

I'd rather just have a comically large loop after the station to turn the entire train around

[wind siren]

i do wish to have a diff skin for engines to choose from though

[fiery pewter]

Wdym

[wind siren]

the old steam look or even a bullet train look

[fluid sapphire]

there are mods for that

[karmic cosmos]

I like bi trains better just because they look so clean

[fiery pewter]

There's only the FICSIT train locomotive that you can color, no more, no less

[fiery pewter]

Each their own opinion

[ivory condor]

just dont have multiple bi trains on the same track, otherwise you can have a mexican stand off thats impossible to recover from

[karmic cosmos]

I always run bi trains with single lines and in mega factories i run 2 lines just to have less traffic.. i find it more comforting.. but yeah everyone has their own ideas thats what makes satisfactory great ahah

[fiery pewter]

You know what could be a funny feature?

[ivory condor]

as a general practical i recommend against bi trains and instead single direction only tracks, because those are clean and dont have issues, bi trains are just problematic in general

[fiery pewter]

Heavier trains derail less quickly in a collision

#screenshots message
Meanwhile the train track in the background breaking the laws of reality

[reef basin]

bi trains are completely fine

bi tracks are problematic if the route has more than one train

[formal minnow]

im surprised the fluid dynamics guide in the wiki doesnt use the book cover in the hub bathroom

[nocturne cairn]

It came before the book appeared in the game

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> @green fiber what if the PDF shipped with the game and clicking the fluid dynamics book would open /CommunityResources/Pipeline_Manual.pdf ?

-# @green fiber get you some royalties from each copy sold

[green fiber]

I would probably need to update it to match ingame for the extra funny bit

Art imitates life
Now life imitates art

[leaden turret]

best way to stop people sharing the fandom wiki link to the manual is to ship manual with the game

[leaden turret]

Hannah / McGalleon collab

[green fiber]

I dont even know who made the art for the ingame books

[leaden turret]

(more referring to person in charge of story would want a say with ensuring copy fits style guide for ficsit)

[green fiber]

Ah. Honestly i would love if the hub had like actual bookshelves full of actual interactable books that open guides ingame

Or if the various strewn about books were interactable

Similar to the Field Guide in splatoon 3's Salmon Run

[fallen pivot]

I like diegetic UIs.

It will make the hub way more useful.

[green fiber]

Would make the HUB an actual base for planning and such if it had some more tools in it that could help the player

[twin helm]

non related so sorry if it doesnt belong here, anyone good at coding?

[green fiber]

Might wanna ask on the modding discord ?

The coding nerds tend to hang out over there.

If its not related to the game at all then idk really

[ivory condor]

odd question to ask here, i wouldnt say im good at coding, i know some but havent done anything professional in a couldnt tell you how long

[feral dragon]

What game outside of Satisfactory and Factorio scratches the same spot?

[wind siren]

dyson sphere?

there are lots that come sort of close but dont have as much intricacies like Techtonica as example

[feral dragon]

Dyson Sphere (sounds like a vaccum cleaner btw) seems like it can be a good replacement for a while. Techtonica on the other hand seems abandoned and buggy according to the reviews

[wind siren]

dyspon sphere is very complex if you get beyond 2-3 planets worth and feeder systems etc. techtonica just got a major up last month? so no, not abandoned.

other oddballs like Captain of Industry come to mind too but slightly diff automation approach

i think i have played every automation type game out in the last decade and DSP, satisfactory, and factorio remain the top 3 IMO

[feral dragon]

Last Techtonica update was over a year ago

But yea I will give Dyson a chance for sure, thanks for the suggestion!

[wind siren]

desynced was good for a few weeks too. techtonica i have issue with camera speed and graphics quality so it gets to me over extended time

DSP has combat so it has a little bit more there. it really comes down to flavor of itch IMO too

[feral dragon]

If you break it down what's the major differences between satisfactory and dyson?

[wind siren]

blacksmith master, motemancer, of that alchemy shop game for example

dyson is more a world feeling to it since they're round planets

satisfactory feelsd more factory than any other game frankly

DSP is like factorio more than satisfactory when it comes to feel

also feels more FPS in approach since you are the mech walking around. factorio i relied more on my drones do everything and not so much hands on

[clear mesa]

I've been meaning to get into the whole factory/automation genre more

Satisfactory has been great, have been wanting to try factorio for a while, just can't justify the price tag 😞

Might just say fuck it and get it for myself on Christmas

Shapez looks interesting too

[wind siren]

i havent played factorio in 5 years :/

[clear mesa]

Satisfactory opened me up to a genre of games I never knew I was interested in so it feels like I have a looooot of content to experience

[clear mesa]

Burnout?

[wind siren]

more not the right itch to scratch

[clear mesa]

That's fair

[wind siren]

shapez and shapze2 werent bad, block factory is a recent copy IMO and all peeter out rather quickly

[clear mesa]

Thats fair so what do you play currently?

[wind siren]

new save in satisfactory since i hadnt played in 2 years

and skyrim/star wars outlaws

i played a bit of whiskerwood recently too since i like timberborn

[quartz compass]

random question, should i place path signal on the way in and block on the way out when making a intersections? with trains

[fluid sapphire]

thats the common mantra, yeah?

[wind siren]

i think so, you want trains to NOT stop inside an intersection

[leaden turret]

when in doubt, don't use path signals

[leaden turret]

other advice: if things don't work, use other signal type

@obsidian zodiac can you please check your DMs and tell me if that's #satisfactory-memes, #streams-and-videos, or #off-topic-media ?

[clear mesa]

Oo okay

[quartz compass]

i have done it that way using path signal in and block out but for some reason this intersection dosnt work... the path signals are giving me the ! mark

[silk ocean]

Do you have spacers?

[vague stratus]

Today I'm a satisfactory hater.

[silk ocean]

Add a short length of track at every line, and space the signals a bit back from the merge/join

[fluid sapphire]

if they are "signal loops into itself", yeah move them further back from the rail split points

about 3700 instances of the same bug every day

[silk ocean]

Only? xD

[fluid sapphire]

indeed

[round crown]

You play survival games

[clear mesa]

Yeah

[round crown]

What games

[clear mesa]

I try to dabble in everything but survival I have quite a few

I mean I have the basics idk, Minecraft terraria, don't starve, the forest etc

I used to be heavy into ark

[silk ocean]

Played Core Keeper? That's quite cool

[round crown]

@clear mesa also factorio id half the price of a normal game. Thats so worth it

[clear mesa]

Rust

[clear mesa]

Isn't it like 30 something

[clear mesa]

I'll note it down to look into it

[round crown]

Me sitting here with over 1000 hours

[clear mesa]

Such an amazing game if it wasn't for the publishers running it to the ground

[round crown]

I've also played it. There are other games I recommend first

Such as ENSHROUDED

[clear mesa]

Go for it, I'll probably be getting a nice winter haul as soon as steam sale rolls in loool

[silk ocean]

It's a bit like Terraria in top-down style

[clear mesa]

Ooo okay

[round crown]

For me its just the bugs. That has always been my ONE issue

[silk ocean]

Mining, bosses, RPG elements, etc

[clear mesa]

Not really survival but I love stardew too

[round crown]

I want to warn you. Don't EXPECT it to be like terraria. My friend hated it because I explained it lkke that

[clear mesa]

I'm not expecting that dw

[round crown]

But definitely put enshrouded on the list

[clear mesa]

Enshrouded and core keeper are jotted down 🫡

[clear mesa]

You know what the art style reminds me of

[round crown]

@clear mesa infact i'll play both with you but i prefer enshrouded

[clear mesa]

Valheim

Sure I'll get one or the other or both depending on their price later this month

[round crown]

I was ABOUT TO SAY. People call this valheims successor. Some ppl even say its better. Wait do yoy have valheim

[clear mesa]

Nope

Most recent games on my rotation have been satisfactory and for honor haha

[round crown]

What about 7 days to die

[clear mesa]

But valheim is on the wishlist too 😭

[clear mesa]

No 💔

[round crown]

@clear mesa jot grounded too

[clear mesa]

I didn't enjoy it much ngl :/

[round crown]

That game goes for dirt cheap too

[lunar python]

I used to play valheim on a shifty pc, i dont know if it was the frames or the game but damn was it hard to progress

[round crown]

Its both

[clear mesa]

Not a big fan of groundeds artstyle

[round crown]

Have you played deep rock

[fluid sapphire]

7 days to die used to be fun, but the devs constantly fighting the players fun got super annoying

[round crown]

Honestly I'd send you my whole library

[clear mesa]

A little when I had the Xbox gamepass

[round crown]

But this js JUST on steam

I haven't even mentioned my console games

[round crown]

Monster hunter?

[round crown]

It still is. They just very clearly have there own direction. And are making it feel like an rpg more then a survival

@clear mesa what abt v rising

[fluid sapphire]

their "direction" is to constantly pivot and "fix" any time players find a fun working tactic

[feral dragon]

You can get it pretty cheap on like g2a but buy it on your own risk. For me I have had no problem but some other people say that the game was pulled back from their library. However IMO Factorio is too complex (tedious) for me in end game

[fluid sapphire]

has been for years

[round crown]

Well they change what they don't like

Magazines were.....an odd change

But other then that

[fluid sapphire]

i have come to the conclusion they dont like anything

[round crown]

Can argue there. Do you know how many times this progression system has been changed? At least a dozen

[fluid sapphire]

thats the problem

[clear mesa]

Nope and nope to both. Maybe I don't have as many games as I previously thought I did xd

[round crown]

I play wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many games

[clear mesa]

I usually just stick to 1 or 2 before playing others honestly

Which is why I don't have too many I suppose

[round crown]

I try doing that

Not very good

[clear mesa]

The most recent games I have bought where because of friends

Stuff like peak/repo etc

Fun for a while but I end up minmaxing and ruining the enjoyment from those games

[wind siren]

valheims problem is no npc villagers to grow/protect

[twilit peak]

I'm having trouble deciding which circuit board alt recipe to get

[reef basin]

why only one?

you can get all and use them in different situations according to specific needs of given production

[twilit peak]

Right now i only need one. Planning to make circuit boards for the cloud in a part on the crater

That way i have when i need to make something else

[hard ivy]

I always use caterium

[reef basin]

well if you have one place to use it, you can decide which one works best for your case

[hard ivy]

Circuit boards aren't used in any building so storing them in the depot is kinda pointless

[twilit peak]

Silicon has the highest output, but i have no quartz nearby
Electrode can be made only with oil, so i won't have to move materials too much, but has the lowest output
Caterium seems the most convenient, as i'm also using caterium to make plastic ai chips, but it'll drink too much quickwire then

[hard ivy]

You want some for unlocks etc, but no real reason to automatically depot them

[hard ivy]

Pure caterium and fused quickwire and it's pretty cheap

[lusty hornet]

How can I build several foundations at the same time?

[hard ivy]

Zoop mode or blueprints

[lusty hornet]

zoop mode what is it

[hard ivy]

Press R and you can build up to 10 foundations in a line (horizontal or vertical)

[lusty hornet]

ohhh ty

[silk ocean]

Kinda wish it was more than 10 xD (I know there is a mod but playing vanilla)

[twilit peak]

Caterium it is

[formal minnow]

i have found a pink forest of fills your inventory with wood and leaves for the crime of wanting to walk

i hate it here

[hard ivy]

Why are you walking in the pink forest???

[formal minnow]

mercer sphere

[unkempt blade]

you should be driving a factory cart through the pink forest like a true pioneer

[mortal ginkgo]

How about, NO?

#satisfactory message

[formal minnow]

oh hey i didnt know the MAM had a visual and audio effect when scanning a drive

[unkempt blade]

the factory cart's rugged armor package would have kept you safe from those stingers

[mortal ginkgo]

Brotherman they are so large that even if they curiously poked around the cart I would have HOLES EVERYWHERE

[silk ocean]

You'd be sunk or stuck on a rock in no time XD

[formal minnow]

stingers are fucking demons even with arachnophobia on
im pretty sure i hallucinated distant meowing on my way back from a mercer sphere hunt

[mortal ginkgo]

The key is over exposure.

I went to a sphere hunt and I fought so many alpha stingers (and some green) that I started to see the smol ones as alpha too.

My mind was constantly ready to fight lols.

[formal minnow]

trauma responde type shit

[whole kiln]

why is my surface making me phase trough looks like minecraft and no trees?

[mortal ginkgo]

Yup. In the end you become so get used to see them that even jumpscares don't do much. You start to learn their patterns, their attack damage, when to jump, when to use stun rebar ammo etc.

You become the fear, when exposed to too much what makes you fear.

[whole kiln]

why is my surface making me phase trough looks like minecraft and no trees?

[stoic steeple]

Is there a way to disable stingers without using advanced game settings so I can still get achievements? I just don't want to deal with them lol

[lunar python]

Copium

[mortal ginkgo]

do it as I told above, overexposure yourself, let them deal with you.

[silk ocean]

Nuke em

[mortal ginkgo]

Become the Stinger.

[fluid sapphire]

arachnophobia mode + passive mode

[stoic steeple]

Is passive mode in advanced game settings? Cause I still want to get achievements

[fluid sapphire]

gameplay> creature hostility> passive

does not affect achievements

[stoic steeple]

Oh cool!

Thanks!

[mortal ginkgo]

We lost another one that could become the BATMAN. 😭

[stoic steeple]

Bruh stingers suck! I want to build factories

[formal minnow]

elevators are my favorite thing in this game

[mortal ginkgo]

You won the arguement this time, but I will be back. With more sillier takes!

[stoic steeple]

I'm 90 hours in and about a third of that is exploring and dealing with hostile creatures. I've probably gotten 100 coupons from alien dna

[lunar python]

How do you maximize the efficiency of an impure limestone node? I have a couple around and i dont have a target output

[unkempt blade]

That's just good ficsit engineering. There's a crumple zone to make them safer when you crash them off a skyroad

[stoic steeple]

Factory Carts are goated

[unkempt blade]

I like you. You seem really smart unlike some people around here

[stoic steeple]

Thanks! At my old base when I unlocked Factory Carts, I had one just going around in circles

[mortal ginkgo]

You are looking at the correct problem, with a wrong solution.

Impure Limestone Nodes are not there for you to make Ballistic Drives.

They are not there to make Copper Powders for your pastas.

Do you know what the purpose of an Impure Lime stone is?

Be content, with what you have.

Sometimes, it is enough to have 30/min product, going slowly down a mk1 belt, letting you enjoy the moment.

I am there to let you ponder the meaning of it all, and not lose yourself in the process.

No need for extra, for you are content.
No need to be judgmental, for there is no need.

I am sure you ignored the impure limestone node on the way to victory all the time. But that impure limestone node was always there for you, when you first landed, when you first put a miner on an iron node, when you ran away from your first stinger encounter.

Sometimes, being there is enough, to look inside and be content.

Thank you.

[lunar python]

[stoic steeple]

That was very poetic

Maybe unnecessary

[unkempt blade]

Impure limestone nodes
Are not really functional
Mostly just scenic

[formal minnow]

well thats annoying
the most optimal setup (with the alts i can use) for 20/min of both rubber and plastic requires 30.938 input crude oil
which is just barely enough to where id have to overclock this impure node

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[unkempt blade]

you don't like my haiku? 🙁

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont like the fact that I "20% failed" using carts in my base because the stations were taking too much space QQ.

I really hoped we could get some cart stations..Q_Q

[leaden turret]

looks at driver

seems more pioneereed

[unkempt blade]

we just have to keep lobbying for fun sized cart stations + fun sized trains and train stations

[hard ivy]

20/min of both rubber and plastic takes 13.333 oil

[formal minnow]

cant do diluted fuel unless i do the stupid packager loop

[leaden turret]

Haikus are easy
But sometimes they don't make sense
Satisfactory

[hard ivy]

Then do the packager loop. With a good design, it's not any harder to use than a blender

[unkempt blade]

it's pretty easy if you make a blueprint for it

[clear mesa]

The packager loop is there for u when the blender wasnt

[formal minnow]

also i dont have the diluted fuel recipe
not that it matters since im letting myself trade alts for better ones in scim

actually do i have enough useless alts

[mortal ginkgo]

I think key is having packages for each refineries themselves. Big space waste but big gain on complexity

Have like 50 package for each refinery setup and you are done

[noble harbor]

Guys i just unlocked phase 3 any tips?

[mortal ginkgo]

Trains go choo choo mf

[unkempt blade]

make your builds more colorful and use lots of vehicles because they're fun

[mortal ginkgo]

Also go fuel power

[noble harbor]

Alr thanks

[hard ivy]

It's time to get a lot of alts

[formal minnow]

ok this plastic production setup is really funny actually

[noble harbor]

So basically harddrive hunting?

[formal minnow]

yep

[hard ivy]

Yes. And get the depot if you didn't already

[formal minnow]

theres a lotta stuff in phase 3 thats leagues easier with the right alts

[noble harbor]

What do you mean by depot?

[hard ivy]

Dimensional depot

[formal minnow]

dimensional depot, research alien technology

[hard ivy]

Left side of the alien technology tree

[unkempt blade]

Rush the jetpack and fuel before you go hard drive hunting. It'll save you a lot of effort 😄

[noble harbor]

I just couldn't find that SAM thing no matter how much i wandered around map

[formal minnow]

lowk just prg

[noble harbor]

Thanks i was really struggling with transportation

[hard ivy]

Then get the jetpack, liquid biofuel to fuel it and wander around more.

Also, like half of it is in caves

[noble harbor]

Alr

[unkempt blade]

yeah a lot of stuff you can find ways up to places or just build foundation ramps but it's so much more pleasant to just jetpack there

[formal minnow]

love watching ada have fun learning about the aliens

[keen light]

Does the blueprint auto connect work vertically? Pipes seem simple enough, but I'm not sure how it would handle belt lifts.

[hard ivy]

I don't think lifts connect

Unless you have belts sticking out of them that can connect

[keen light]

I was remaking an old stacking blueprint and learned about the autoconnect feature, so I'm trying to see how I can implement it

I guess it might be the same as it was, have to connect lifts after the fact

[inner lintel]

chat I built an iodine filter factory that feeds into a dimensional depot

[hearty saffron]

If only filters worked from the depot.....

[inner lintel]

I pinned it so I can always grab more while out nuking entire ecosystems for fun

now I just need nukes in the depot

[covert vault]

I built 144 fuel gens to be running with rocket fuel... it's taking so f'ing long for the pipes to fill with fuel so they actually all come online....

[unkempt blade]

take your mind off the wait by building a factory cart skate park

[covert vault]

lol

done that already

[north summit]

Have you tried water towers?

Water Towers work great

[formal minnow]

canisters are the biggest scam in the awesome shop
you could get 100 canisters for 1 coupon, or enough plastic to make 400 canisters for 1 coupon

[covert vault]

....?

[north summit]

hard to explain but basically Water Towers move the fuel up using pumps and then push the fuel back down so the Pipes below the tower stay full

[formal minnow]

check the pipes guide in #math-and-meta pins

[covert vault]

the problem here is that it's the pipe distributing the fuel to the gens that are the delay

[formal minnow]

theyll fill Eventually

[covert vault]

oh I know, it's just taking forever

[formal minnow]

i dont think theres a good way to load balance pipes, they kinda do that on their own to a lesser degree

make sure youre not tryna force more than the max throughput through your pipes btw

[covert vault]

well aware

Fuel gens burn 4.17 rocket fuel per minute, it's 143.88 of them to use 600 rocket fuel per minute, so I have 140 of them at 100% and 4 at 97%

[hard ivy]

fyi they burn 4.1(6), not 4.17

[covert vault]

#screenshots message Game says 4.17

[hard ivy]

it's rounded

if you calculate from the energy content, it's 25/6 per min, or 4.1(6)

[fringe hazel]

how come my biomass producers say they produce 30megawatts but i have 4 and the power grid is saying i only produce 60

[keen light]

I spent 6 hours tweaking my basic fuel factory yesterday. I was hunting down little problems all over the place, finally realized it was 2 gens I forgot to turn back on after the fuel filled up.

[stoic steeple]

Biomass burners scale to demand, so if your power grid consumes 60 MW, then your generators will always produce 60 even if you have capacity for more

[fringe hazel]

demand is higher than output

[keen light]

the biomass burners stop producing if they don't need power, so no need to break them down after you get coal online

[ruby wing]

Hey,

Yesterday somerthing wierd happen. During gaming GPU fans went to 100% which happened before even with other games.
Screen went black, that happened before as well even with other games, GPU got overheated yep.
But what worries me, I also had some burn smell in the air that made me paranoid.

I have RTX2080, it never happened before, even with this game (I have ~280 hours)
I am monitoring my GPU usage since then, it is around 80-86 C which is kinda high no?
Whats your GPU temp during gaming?

[keen light]

Apparently 90s is when you're in trouble, but I'd talk to a real expert about it. It might be as basic as cleaning out the dust or the card could be failing. If you have the ability to overclock you might also turn that off.

[unkempt blade]

Mid 80Cs range if I'm pushing it. I think that's safe for mine though

[gentle lion]

One of the big fat creatures was stuck on some of my spaghetti conveyors ....couldn't upgrade them ...so I had to beat jt to death...ADA said...that one had a family...☹️

[fiery pewter]

There should be away for the beans to check if there are buildables at their chosen spawn point

[gentle lion]

Also have one stuck in one of my first "factories" but he never gets stuck so I leave him

[fiery pewter]

Good

He also has a family

[gentle lion]

I need to get more building peices. I really got to sink more stuff

I have a whole storage of versatile framework don't need right now...🤔

Gotta be a few point there

[fiery pewter]

Which is why my ~1000mw biomass plant is kinda pointless

[gentle lion]

I trashed all my biomass stuff just ahve a small setup for jetpack fuel

[formal minnow]

ada was conceived to the tune of some absolute bangers damn

[peak wasp]

had a driver update? tried rolling back ? check the the gpu is sat correct ,check all cables if its still doing it and under warranty return it , if not try cleaning the dye and apply new paste

[gentle lion]

Plastic and rubber shoukd I just use one of the less productive oil.nodes?

[fiery pewter]

The unreleased ficsmas tunes?

[fiery pewter]

epoduxtibw

Ah yes

[gentle lion]

I cannot type on my phone it's a fold...still. Can't type....

[formal minnow]

no the absolute ficsit tape

[fiery pewter]

True bangers

[formal minnow]

theres a unique message when buying it

[fiery pewter]

Is there

[gentle lion]

Productive

[fiery pewter]

Never noticed it
-# I nevery buy any other tape

[gentle lion]

Does the boom box just play locally

[formal minnow]

ADA: In the early days of the Save the Day program, when I was still in alpha, some of the employees would store their personal musical projects on my servers.
In a way, this was the music I was conceived to. Enjoy.

[fiery pewter]

Not if you take it with you

[fiery pewter]

I never heard that

Wow

I really like the first song on the absolute ficsit tape

-# I have it on repeat when building large things

[formal minnow]

imagine hearing that and popping the tape into the boombox and thats your immediate first impression

[gentle lion]

What items have the best bang for the buck in the sink I'm up to and done with tier 6

[formal minnow]

do you not have everything you make sinking passively once your containers overflow

[fiery pewter]

Smart splitter supremacy

[gentle lion]

Ummm..

[formal minnow]

yes exactly

[fiery pewter]

It is a good first impression imo

[gentle lion]

I guess I shoukd go do that wouldn't take long.

[fiery pewter]

You're in tier 6 you say?

[gentle lion]

Yes

[formal minnow]

especially if youve done centralised storage

[fiery pewter]

Have smart splitters between normal storage and final machine, then set one exit to overflow, and merge it all onto one high tier belt, into a sink

[gentle lion]

I need to set one up.

Where is the best place for centralized storage

[formal minnow]

man i do those literally from the start of the game
then clean up the spaghetti needed to do so pre-smart splitters once i get them

[formal minnow]

near your main base, duh

[fiery pewter]

I like how I specified normal storage when it can also happen to the Dimensional Depot

[gentle lion]

I just ahve a huge mess of big platforms I call factories lol

I coukd make an area.near there I guess

I have trains now so that's also an option

[proud hill]

can my team also see markers i placed on the map ?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[ebon cave]

Where is a good spot to have like a beginner factory cause I just unlocked coal power but there’s none near iron or copper

[fiery pewter]

Depends on where you are currently

[still yew]

just a quick question, how do you get air filters? at tier 7/8 now and never seen anything about em

[ebon cave]

Rocky desert

[unkempt blade]

all of the starting locations have everything you need through the end of tier 4 at minimum

[hard ivy]

MAM

[fiery pewter]

The mycelia tree in the mam

[still yew]

many thanks everyone!

[ebon cave]

I just don’t see any coal near pure iron and copper

[fiery pewter]

Where are you currently

[unkempt blade]

scan for it with V

[hard ivy]

you don't need pure nodes specifically

[ebon cave]

Yeah I did scan

There’s none near my factory right now

[fiery pewter]

Welp

Eventually you're gonna have to make another factory anyway

[unkempt blade]

there's definitely coal reasonably close to the rocky desert start

[ebon cave]

Well my factory is at -1646, -344

So not really

[shy mulch]

There's coal everywhere

[shy mulch]

in the south east of the rocky desert? there's literally 3 pure coal nodes at the top of the cliff

[mortal ginkgo]

northwest too? I think thats the main coal zone to coal gens

[ebon cave]

Ik but I can’t get it down the cliff to my base at those nodes down there

[shy mulch]

why not? you have conveyor belts?

[ebon cave]

Yeah but it’s like kinda far should I run it all the way down there?

@shy mulch

[shy mulch]

it's really not that far

if you think that's far, the endgame is gonna upset you

[gentle lion]

Turbo Fuel is 6 fuel plus 4 compacted coal , my current fuel setup is using the diluted Packaged fuel

At end of the process it nets 60 fuel which runs three gens each

So how many refineries would it take to process rhat into turbo fuel

[shy mulch]

depends what recipe you're using, should be very simple to calculate

[gentle lion]

Jusg the basic turbo fuel recipe

[warm thorn]

Someone last night asked me why I made a self sustained diluted fuel maker in Phase 3 😭

[shy mulch]

so you've got 60 fuel per minute and enough compacted coal to mix with it to make turbofuel, right?

[gentle lion]

Yes

[shy mulch]

so, one refinery without overclocking is 22.5/min

so divide the amount of fuel you have (60) by how much the refinery can do (22.5)

60/22.5= ?

[gentle lion]

So 2.6

[shy mulch]

bingo

[gentle lion]

Or underclock or overclock to make round numbera?

[shy mulch]

yeah, make the 260% in whatever way you want, 2 at 100% and 1 at 60%, or 2 at 130%, or 260 at 1% 🙂

personally I like the 260 refineries running at 1% idea

[gentle lion]

Then 2.5x18.75 per minute is 48.75 turbo which then is 7.5 per fuel Gen which would be 6.5 gens per setup effectively doubling my number of gens

Or connect a 7th between two sets of 6...🤔 That would be messy

[shy mulch]

you can under and overclock generators too remember

[gentle lion]

Oh yeah

I see why everyone likes turbo

[shy mulch]

You'll hate what I do with mine

[silk ocean]

Another drone route eliminated by trains... yes perfect xD

[shy mulch]

I make turbofuel and package it and use it to make diamonds 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

Isnt it kinda the best recipe?

[gentle lion]

Didn't know their were even diamonds in game lol

[shy mulch]

That's subjective, I actually use all of the diamond alts, depending on what resources are available in the area

[lunar python]

2 refineries, 2 packagers...

[shy mulch]

Sorry, I'll try to avoid too many spoilers 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

now that I think of it, turbofuel can be heavy on sulfur and coal...

[gentle lion]

Oh I'm fine. This Ian really a game with spoilers to me lol

[mortal ginkgo]

its not as the diamond you think it is. I mean, it is shiny but not TV-diamond

besides MaM spoils the game's end game more than enough 😛

[shy mulch]

In that case, have a browse of the wiki to see what you can do with various recipes etc

satisfactory.wiki.gg

[gentle lion]

Trying to decides if I want to train compacted coal to setup or just drag the other spots of coal and sulfur to my setup in the west ...they would be long conveyors lol

[shy mulch]

I have conveyors that literally run across the entire map, so whether a belt is "long" is another subjective thing

[gentle lion]

😂 I have several that are 1.5 to 2km

[shy mulch]

great! getting there 😄

[lunar python]

I just have many remote factories near the resources that need them

[primal obsidian]

train supremacy

[lunar python]

Dont say stun seed backwards💀 💀

[primal obsidian]

I won’t

[ebon cave]

How do I get the coal down the cliff though?

[gentle lion]

I found one lone coal.node south of me that is pure. I shoukd overclock the mk2 to 200% and then with mk4 conveyor I woukd get double..
With the sulfur connected to it should be plenty of compacted coal to train over.

[lunar python]

Lifts

[ebon cave]

Can they go down instead of up?

[lunar python]

Similarly to elevators, lifts also have the ability to go down

Just press r

[ebon cave]

I’m on console

I didn’t know that tho

[hard ivy]

just change build mode to reversed

or build from the other end

[lunar python]

^^

[ebon cave]

Okay thanks

[shy mulch]

I'm dreaming of the chaos we could cause if we could have angled and curved conveyor lifts 😄

[primal obsidian]

lift

[hard ivy]

pretty sure we can?

well, not curved

but I think I've seen some cursed angled lifts

[shy mulch]

They only go up and down in vanilla, you probably saw some modded version

[mortal ginkgo]

with infinite nudge mod, you can nudge a lift. If you nudge it so far away it would basically mean teleportation.

[hard ivy]

pretty sure it was some glitch, not a mod

[cunning lily]

What happens to FICSMAS items like the present trees and recipes and skins once the event is done?

[shy mulch]

I've never used mods tbh, and don't plan to, but I can still be amused by what they can do

[shy mulch]

any you have built will stay, but you can't build any more until next ficsmas

and the trees will stop producing

[cunning lily]

Kk, good to know.

[mortal ginkgo]

you can also not put them again so deleting them is a permanent deal

[abstract heron]

is 18000 to much quick wire?

[mortal ginkgo]

its never too much quickwire

[abstract heron]

Thinking how much to add for quickwire into my factorys of factorys

[hard ivy]

for a max nuclear plant? just enough

[lusty hornet]

hi if I have I building idea I need 300iron for one path and 180 to another I have one mine to use so I can get 480 iron but this is my question how can I do this with out a spaghetti i can 480 to 240 then 120 to 60 add that 60 to the another 240 then i will have 300 and 180 but its gonna look like sheet how can I do it better? or I cant

[wind siren]

you can label conveyor wall holes now? how?

[abstract heron]

Just to have in my base

[hard ivy]

oh, I thought you meant per min 😆

[abstract heron]

Yes i did per min and for my factorys of factorys

[hard ivy]

you can do this with a single splitter

[lusty hornet]

how

[twin helm]

Anyone got a recommendation location wise for a turbo fuel power plant, need to up my power asap

[sterile blade]

You can just put signs on them

[lusty hornet]

how

[hard ivy]

machines that consume 180 won't consume more than 180. if they get more, it'll just overflow to the other output, achieving the split

[lusty hornet]

I dindt think about that k ty

[wind siren]

i wonder if what i saw was the 2m x 0.5m sign?

[sterile blade]

Likely. They don't allow any special kind of snapping or... "accessory" other than throughput monitors (but those go on the belts connected to them)

[lusty hornet]

If I dismantle something and I dont have inventory it just disappear ?

[hard ivy]

no, it goes into a dismantle crate

[lusty hornet]

there isnt a dismatle crate

[lusty hornet]

it dosnt spawn one

[hard ivy]

dismantle crates merge when nearby

check the closest existing one

[lusty hornet]

there is one nearby

istn

isnt

[warm thorn]

Yes

[hard ivy]

go to the closest one

[real shale]

anyone else come across invisible storage containers? 🙃

[warm thorn]

Use the compass at the top or go to the map and locate a diamond with a crate icon, that's your dismantling crate

[lusty hornet]

ty it was a 1km

[twin helm]

How much power does one 250% turbo fuel gen make

Never mind

[primal obsidian]

lift

[ornate saffron]

Shift

[primal obsidian]

someone asked how to get coal or down a cliff like 3 hours ago but my school has bad wifi

[ornate saffron]

I hear that, my work suffers from extreme packet loss

[leaden turret]

you work for postnord?

🥁

[ornate saffron]

Imgur lol

[azure pulsar]

Man, everything just takes up so much space... Is this why people talk about making mega/giga factories?

[leaden turret]

build up

[north summit]

okay quick question

[leaden turret]

42

[north summit]

what is the "world grid"

[leaden turret]

🩲

[north summit]

and how do i specifically build on the world grid

[glass pagoda]

Use left control

[leaden turret]

press hotkey, I think ctrl?

[north summit]

I thought you just place foundations down and they do the rest

[glass pagoda]

What do you think they do?

[north summit]

ah you see didnt know that

[leaden turret]

that is custom grid

[white dawn]

You can place foundations "on" the world grid by holding down Ctrl as you start a new foundation placement

[north summit]

gotta restart my entire world

[proud hill]

my friend got a parachute from the calendar is there a way i can get another one ?

[glass pagoda]

No

[white dawn]

It's basically just a unified N/E/S/W-oriented grid which would let you connect up disparate factories "easily" with foundations

[leaden turret]

global grid is a thing for making everything be perfectly aligned without having to run temporary foundations between the two.

the problem is you can't redefine it, you can't rotate it

[glass pagoda]

By unlocking it in the quarts tree in the mam

[white dawn]

If you do use it, remember to either always start with 1m foundations, or always start with 2m/4m foundations -- the 1m ones end up being centered differently along the z-axis

[leaden turret]

so is 🩲

[white dawn]

(Personally I'm not a fan, and there are a lot of methods available to connect up disparately-rotated grids, if you want to connect up factories with foundations, but there are folks who like it)

[north summit]

I almost always run 4m Foundations

i like the thickness

[charred thistle]

afternoon pioneers

[leaden turret]

I am very much not a fan

[glass pagoda]

Eh id say its nice as it gives the player a look at how to make things organized and then from there you will realize its trash and actually organize

[white dawn]

Building any individual factory on a consistent grid is certainly useful for organization

[leaden turret]

you can make things organised just by snapping them to foundations

[white dawn]

But there's often no need to have different factories be aligned to the exact same grid (unless that's really what you want, of course)

[leaden turret]

which everyone but world grid enjoyers has to do by running temporary foundations between locations, then doubling back and removing them afterwards

[leaden turret]

ensures consistent alignment of viaducts, roads, etc.

[white dawn]

(And of course if you end up enjoying making more "complex"-looking factories, aesthetically, you may end up with, like, "wings" of the factories which are on different grids even locally. Or get into circles, etc. :)

[leaden turret]

also presumably for canon enjoyers to make it easier to aim by building gun sights 😛

[round crown]

Why

[glass pagoda]

Me personally I think the world grid is good for factorys that are close together

Or just for small fsctorys in early game

[white dawn]

Even for close-together factories, I like building "with" the local geography. Can make the factories tie into the environment better that way

But yeah, personal preference

Nothing wrong with using world grid if you want to. :)

[leaden turret]

if you want your factories that are close together but don't want them to be fixed to an offset or non-cardinal direction?

absolutely useless.

[leaden turret]

oh yeah, totally.

just salty my enjoyment of the game is made more difficult by the lack of some extra UI.

[glass pagoda]

That's true I mean you can always try to build your foundation in a way that curves but that is quite tedious

Although it can pay off

[white dawn]

Hmm, potential feature request: choose a foundation and hit a key to set that as your new "current" grid (and some other way to reset to stock World Grid)

Could build to "local" grids without having to actually run foundations out, etc

[twin helm]

So if i have a pipe manifold splitter system, can i attach another input onto the same pipe further down to top it up? Will that work

[white dawn]

(Probably way too complex to be actually useful, since for local factories it's hardly a problem to just run foundations out)

[glass pagoda]

Could be implemented to the customiser

[leaden turret]

exactly.

store offset of pos & rot to save file, tada.

[white dawn]

I wasn't even really talking about curves. Just that I very rarely want to align my factories to exactly north/south/east/west

Like I'd rather follow a local cliff line or waterway or whatever. Even if the factory does end up being essentially boxy, I like aligning stuff to the local features

[glass pagoda]

Yeah and adding a cool looking roof sometimes makes you even forget it's that boxy

[white dawn]

(And again, just personal preference stuff here, of course. :)

[white dawn]

Yeah, windows + roofs can do a lot to spruce up a factory

[glass pagoda]

Personally I like the world grid but it does get in the way sometimes so I just build how it flows

[white dawn]

I don't tend to go wild with decoration but just enclosing stuff can often be perfectly good enough for me

[glass pagoda]

Especially when rotating signs to create intricate designs like that one guy does with his super futuristic city on YouTube

Whatever fits your playstyle

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1443130650617057331
The signs are pretty useful

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553257340108013568/1448750739567542394
Short vid from Xaos demonstrating auto-connecting blueprints with belt system--I think this means bypassing trains or even using a BUS strat is a lot more feasible than it was before. Obviously it's still preference as to whether you like belts everywhere, but in terms of raw functionality, I'm not sure trains have much on this.

[white dawn]

Trains will always have this: Even once you've built a big ol' belt highway, the only thing you can do with that belt highway is the specific belts you just built

There's literally zero expandability without going in to manually build more, or make changes

Whereas rail has a frankly staggering amount of expandability

[leaden turret]

precalculate all belt needs, problem solved

[white dawn]

The same segments of rail which start out supporting a single train line can end up supporting an incredible amount of throughput as you progress through the game

[unkempt blade]

trains truly are the second most useful vehicle

[white dawn]

(Not trying to convince anyone to use trains over belt highways if that's what they want to do; just saying that there are advantages to trains even with auto-connecting blueprints)

heh

[unkempt blade]

I am. Vehicles are way better than conveyors because they look much more awesome driving around

[somber narwhal]

hii

[brazen cove]

yo guys, is there a way to make a boring grind for level 3 elevator (i just need to make machines for 3 resources needed for lvl3 elevator) a little more fun?

[warped holly]

I have some 3 or 4 conveyor lines placed alongside the rail track... just bc their older and... why not?

[whole drum]

Set up you machines and go exploring for spheres/sloops/drives

[unkempt blade]

get everything automated then build a factory cart skate park while you wait

[brazen cove]

hm good idea, now i just need to make all those machines, thanks

[whole drum]

Or the bonus vehicle...

It is the shape of the future

[unkempt blade]

Tractors?!?! Those are pretty great too

[azure pulsar]

Y'all have any recommendations on where to place your main base? I've been working in a pretty cobbled together manner so far, and I want to get something larger and more permanent setup now that I have the infrastructure for it.

[hard ivy]

1. don't have a main base

[whole drum]

2. see 1

[unkempt blade]

Wherever makes you happiest. You'll be expanding beyond it as the factory grows

[primal obsidian]

3. See 2

[brazen cove]

i saw people building it in the dessert so i think you can try to build stuff there and deliver all goods there by train or smth

[primal obsidian]

that’s a bad idea

so many resources to be transported

[unkempt blade]

hope you have a beefy computer 🙂

[primal obsidian]

so many machines