satisfactory

[reef basin]

no, not at all

[dense violet]

except in the game you use valves with zero flow - which is physics breaking

[golden nexus]

i would say the power saved is not worth the complexity added

[reef basin]

in real life you pump the water up into the water tower

[zinc niche]

It's useful but i think the danger is in making sure the fluids are evenly split if they're all connected to one system and there's no channel where the fluids are bottlenecked

[versed cosmos]

that's how i build my water towers in game lol

[reef basin]

so it's just... pumps?

[zinc niche]

But in game you also have to pump water up the water tower.

[dense violet]

yeah there's zero need to connect up all your pipes. Just use pumps

[reef basin]

that's the thing - you don't

[dense violet]

no, you have fluid in a buffer with a valve set to zero

[sacred trail]

I beat the game, and now I'm exploring the world. In the beginning I was worried that I would get out of trees, since they don't respawn. Man, the map is huge.

[versed cosmos]

or i could just use 1 and not have to think about it again for that system lol

[zinc niche]

Wait wtf

What is that I've never heard of this

[ivory condor]

Hate to tell you this but real life physics doesnt work that way

[golden nexus]

What you do, if you have 20 pipes of a fluid and you want it up. You create one water tower and then pump stuff up there and then connect all the other pipes to the tower pipe and magically all fluid go uphill on one set of pumps

[dense violet]

because it's extra dumb?

[versed cosmos]

ive never heard of this valve set to 0 either lol what

[zinc niche]

I'm also kind of glad I'm no longer in the beginning phase of the game

[zinc niche]

Same ngl

[golden nexus]

sounds like headlift flows across valve if valve is 0

[reef basin]

why do anything more than "pump -> pipe up -> happy"?

[dense violet]

because people feel like they get away with things

for reasons

[mortal ginkgo]

Water Towers look cool btw. Thats another reason to make them.

[bitter lodge]

Worst part early game...no hoverpack

[zinc niche]

They offer a visible marker in design engineering, also the solitude of the structure allows one for all patterns

[golden nexus]

You like you add complexity, but save 1,000MW of power but your making 1TW of power

[mortal ginkgo]

Can you lend me yours pls? 😭

[dense violet]

pumps show you the height of headlift when you're placing them

[bitter lodge]

Come get it. I got a few spare in the dim depot

[grizzled lotus]

this is sort of big picture stuff and sort of me sweating the details, but how quickly do you guys expand?

[golden nexus]

if you sturggle with water + coal power.. just nope...

[grizzled lotus]

like, by what phase/tier

[bitter lodge]

Depends on mood.

[mortal ginkgo]

My brother just let out a big irl lore info and bowed down.

I respect 100%.

[reef basin]

at T3

[bitter lodge]

Sandbox game. We all go different paces.

[grizzled lotus]

true. I think my problem is I take a long time to change my beginner-ways

[mortal ginkgo]

I dont expand as long as the factory I am making is pretty and not just built on flying foundations (no offence to flying-foundations-over-ocean folks)

[grizzled lotus]

like, in my runs I usually spend too long trying to optimize my resource nodes instead of going to find more

[bitter lodge]

Higher tier/phase. Longer it takes to progress.

[zinc niche]

It's easy my advice is to just calm down and focus on building a few power factories first before jumping into later phases

[bitter lodge]

Early game is hard to optimize such little output.

[mortal ginkgo]

just go find more, its more enjoyable that way

Unless you are in Rocky Desert, everything including my mom is a pure node

[bitter lodge]

true. I am currently using 2k baux for my next factory.

[grizzled lotus]

worst part is now I'm at tier 5 and I think I may need to raze my base to optimize again 😵‍💫

[bitter lodge]

Always get more cause more means more product.

[zinc niche]

Tier 5 or phase 5

[grizzled lotus]

jetpack

[mortal ginkgo]

dont raze it (unless you know what you are doing), let it make stuff for you behind while you build somewhere else

[grizzled lotus]

mostly just refining so I have my basic materials in storages, also have a decent storage facility instead of having storage containers haphazardly here and there

[mortal ginkgo]

make a save before raze, then YOLOSWAG MY BROTHERMAN

[candid marsh]

how bad would it be to produce only ingots on nodes and then transport it into a megafactory?

[versed cosmos]

not bad at all

[mortal ginkgo]

not bad, there are many late game recipes that make making ingots better so be prepared to remove them or upgrade them later on

[versed cosmos]

smelting on-site before running a train to the megafactory saves a lot of space in the megafactory itself

[reef basin]

"megafactory" usually means "all production in one place", so not possible 😛

[zinc niche]

Ah I see

[mortal ginkgo]

It also means "a very big factory" too, some of us get it so no worries

[candid marsh]

megastorage... whathever you wanna call it

[zinc niche]

I never knew that I just thought mega factory meant a large factory over modular ones

[south sinew]

depends a lot on placement but if you pick a good location it's pretty fine

[versed cosmos]

thats what it means

or it means whatever you want it to mean

[reef basin]

well yeah, that's it. Single factory with centralised production vs modular factories all over the map

[zinc niche]

Ah i see if he smelt it outside of the factory it doesn't count as a megafactory anymore because the smelting is also a production process

[mortal ginkgo]

So umm.. What do we call a Factory if not mega if its making say, phase 5 elevator parts?

[reef basin]

yeah

[mortal ginkgo]

Its surely not "large". That thing is CHONKY. THat thing is CHUNGUS

[reef basin]

big factory

[candid marsh]

here is the thing... already unlocked everything from tier 8 (using a lot of cupons). I built a plant to generate 140 GW so energy shouldn't be a problem. the thing is, I don't really know how to handle my modular factories anymore

[ivory condor]

Well I wouldn't recommend building that way but yes😛

[grizzled lotus]

elevator-factory

[zinc niche]

Why do we like this emoji so much 😛

[green fiber]

we dont, that emoji is inferior to

[mortal ginkgo]

why not? bleh 😛

[ivory condor]

because😛

[hard ivy]

It has been explicitly confirmed in some video/stream that we're getting at least one new game mode.

And in the recipe "commercial" video, they showed an iron node changing to a limestone node (or the other way around, I don't remember). That could suggest that the game mode is random nodes, considering people have been asking for it

[leaden turret]

what about ?

[zinc niche]

Isn't it in appropriate because it might elicit feelings of insincerity

[mortal ginkgo]

People shouldn't be this weak in internets.

😛

[ivory condor]

Exactly, show your darker side😛

[zinc niche]

But then people on the internet are nothing else

[round matrix]

iiiinteresting, thanks!!

[mortal ginkgo]

What if I find tree emoji inappropriate?

Do you see how far and bad this can go if we are going to include everyone's feelings not getting hurt?

Maybe people who can get their feelings hurt so easily, shouldn't be in internets.

For example, flying foundations on ocean folk who constantly show their screenshots consisting of 39568340958309853 fuel gens the 39458930485904380493th time bothers me too.

You don't see me calling it this or that.

I open the reddit, first thing I see is 7000 fuel gen setup over flying foundations.

I AM TIRED OF IT.

[golden nexus]

the first mistake is opening reddit

[dull arch]

I can somewhat agree, i have a lot of mental health stuffs and get overwhelmed and anxious from a lot of things, but I work hard and have for a long time to deal with it and not put it on others.

[ivory condor]

I wonder the chances of getting all impure limestone nodes for the game mode, assuming the game just randoms each and doesn't check if you have enough of each resource to complete the game😹

Can you imagine doing that game mode and getting some maps that are truly impossible to finish, because the game gives you to much of one ore type lma

[zinc niche]

Ooh an impure nodes game mode

[reef basin]

enough of each resource is one impure node of each (maybe not even all needed)

[versed cosmos]

well you can technically complete the game on 1/min of each raw resource

it will just take a really, really long time

[golden nexus]

you actually only need 20-30 nodes to complete game in reasonable time frame

[mortal ginkgo]

You are doing things correct AND fighting the good fight.

Here, have a doggo:

[golden nexus]

i don't post fuel gens, I post belts of 50/min smart plate to wind people up #screenshots message

[zinc niche]

5 iron, 1 copper, 5 limestone, 5 coal, 5 fuel, 2 nuclear. So less than 30

[mortal ginkgo]

BROTHER YOU COULD AT LEAST USE ONE WINDOW THERE HOLY GOSHDARN

[versed cosmos]

1 copper?

[dull arch]

hehe thank you ! 😃

[golden nexus]

i will make sure its off center as well 😛

[mortal ginkgo]

ok now, you go jail.

[green fiber]

why not 34/min smart plating

[zinc niche]

Bro wire/cable and sheets only need one node

[versed cosmos]

copper powder

[golden nexus]

its 2 iron nodes...

[zinc niche]

wtf is that

[versed cosmos]

the very hungry copper recipe

you will never have enough copper ingots

[zinc niche]

I'm in fuel so I wouldn't know

[ivory condor]

Pure nodes game mode does sound interesting

[dull arch]

lul I noticed like a year ago that a light in my hallway is off center and I had to move it

[mortal ginkgo]

lol no

[green fiber]

lost in the sauce fuel

[versed cosmos]

pure nodes might actually make me play in grassy fields

[zinc niche]

Okay so 10 copper nodes, but that's still less than 30

[ivory condor]

You know what if the nodes random themselves through the game play, now that would be utter insanity

[halcyon kite]

Did the random "bad" presents get removed? Or have I just gotten lucky... I could have sworn there used to be Gifts that weren't good.

[golden nexus]

sam, nitrogen, water, more copper, quartz, oil nodes as well.....

[mortal ginkgo]

I had to go to a website to change the location of my entire base because it was one foundation off.

We are not getting that brotherman.

No no. EVERYTHING will be PERFECT pronto.

[green fiber]

sure sounds like something Impure Limestone Node would say

[ivory condor]

One second the node is out putting iron ore, the next second its outputting copper ore, and it just rotates through the ore times every second, that would make for some interesting gameplay

[zinc niche]

I have no idea what nitrogen is

[dull arch]

the world requires BALANCE

lul

[zinc niche]

It would make it tiring

[versed cosmos]

smart splitters on every node

[mortal ginkgo]

That iron node is used only 1199/min?

We are not getting that.

This calls for a game restart. Yes.

[unkempt blade]

you should be grateful for what ficsitclaus brings you otherwise straight to the naughty list!

[ivory condor]

basically yes, but it would make early game hell until you unlock the smart splitters

[halcyon kite]

I want the naughty list! I want the bad presents...

[ivory condor]

because you know all of the smelters would keep getting back up with ore types it cant process mwhahahaha

[green fiber]

Santa Claus ? no
S-ADA Claus

[candid marsh]

btw... is there any way to take advantage from a pure node with an mk3 miner fully overclocked wo mods?

[green fiber]

Yes its called "Get to Tier ||9||"

[unkempt blade]

SantADA Claus?

[zinc niche]

Does anyone else get triggered when miners are not overclocked at 250% because I can get over seeing constructors not overclocked but miners just feel like a waste

[golden nexus]

New game mode will be some kinda constant deliver of items to keep advancing

[reef basin]

no, in the same way you'd have to be triggered by nodes not being used

[candid marsh]

oh I see... thx

[mortal ginkgo]

I can send you some coal.

[dull arch]

we should combine our forces and make THE factory

[green fiber]

I dont need coal, all i need is Alchemy to make coal

[ivory condor]

or a game mode that if you dont constantly follow Ada's demands, she starts dropping nuke nobelisks everywhere becase she is sadistic

[lime kraken]

Is there a way to set the default used Conveyer Poles while place a Conveyerbelt from "Conveyer Pole" to "Stuckable Conveyor Pole?

[reef basin]

biocoal 🙂

[ivory condor]

charcoal

[green fiber]

not really unless you just use blueprints and use autoconnect

[sacred trail]

I think I found a bug. Once you leave a portal, I can't get altitude with the Hover Pack. If I save and load the game it works fine. How can I report it?

[unkempt blade]

http://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[candid marsh]

WTF? a hog just jumped exploded and dopped a jetpack o.O

[unkempt blade]

that's Johnny, he's a good guy besides all the exploding

[meager kiln]

Anyone know if factorio train best practices regarding junctions and signaling work well for satisfactory as well or do I need to relearn

[ornate cairn]

I'm starting to utilize oil for power but havent rly looked into alternate recipes yet. Is there any recommendation on how i should set it up to make it more efficient rather then using normal 6m3 crude oil --> 4m3 fuel + Resin?

[reef basin]

they work decently, but honestly approach this game from scratch, ignore factorio mechanics

[candid marsh]

heavy crude oil and diluted fuel

[stoic steeple]

Heavy Oil Residue paired with Diluted Packaged Fuel are really good. I think it either doubles or quadruples your fuel output.

[candid marsh]

it's also useful later when you unlock rocket fuel (even mode when you have nitro rocket fuel

that's what I'm using atm... 143 GW from a single pure oil node

[stoic steeple]

Diluted Packaged Fuel only if you don't have blenders yet. You just need to have a loop where the containers are fed back into the packager for the water from the fuel unpackager

[ornate cairn]

Ahh alright, i got the alternate Heavy oil already but guess i need to farm for the other now. You got any good guide on how to build with them? My simple mind cant cope with planning myself

[candid marsh]

just be prepared to build the whole plant lol

[candid marsh]

I'm using gemini tbh... just don't let ADA knows

[ornate cairn]

Alright, thanks alot. Guess im abt to get baited by chatgpt into building a super bowl of spaghetti

[candid marsh]

I mean... just give it the right values cause sometimes it takes the info from some outadated source or just make it up

[ornate cairn]

btw is it possible to get every alternate recipe in the game?

[candid marsh]

not sure if you can wo cheating

but also... you don't need them

some of them are actually trash

[versed cosmos]

it's absolutely possible

[ocean frost]

I break it up into stages, stage 1 is makeing fuel, stage 2 is making plastic or rubber

[unkempt blade]

yeah like encased heavy frames

[versed cosmos]

there are more hard drives than alts

[ocean frost]

yes

[ocean frost]

also not every recipe is worth getting haha

[versed cosmos]

yeah theres a bunch of strange ones

[candid marsh]

my advice... don't just pick one. If none of those recipes are useful for you, leave it there. The next drive won't pick them up so you have more chances to get a good one

[versed cosmos]

id say they all have their uses

except the biomass to coal ones because why do those even exist man

[unkempt blade]

so you can make coal

[versed cosmos]

not like i have an infinite supply

[stoic steeple]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=Ct5iivqhx2H6gi7mn2Y5
Here's a setup that takes 300m3 crude oil and makes 800m3 fuel to power 40 fuel gens for 10,000 MW power

[unkempt blade]

It triples the energy output of the input resource. Biocoal is amazing

[versed cosmos]

but why are you manually harvesting biomass to feed coal generators lol

[unkempt blade]

because more power is better than less power

[versed cosmos]

ok i feel like youre trolling lol

[stoic steeple]

I guess you can fuel your trucks with it?

[ornate cairn]

thank you mate

[unkempt blade]

I would never troll about alt recipes!

[stoic steeple]

You're welcome, I hope it works out for you! Btw that website is amazing

[versed cosmos]

satisfactory tools is VERY good

[fast finch]

guys, how do i find the sam in the nord-eastern mountains? it's somehow inside a mountain but i do not find the entrance

[lime kraken]

ist there a way to add half or quater length raillings? becaus if i use Industrial Walkway on center of an Foundation i have open Space at the railings

[ornate cairn]

i just made space for the normal recipe, 600m3 oil -> 10 refinery and 20 fuel gens ... guess i need more now xd

[hard ivy]

check the interactive map for caves

[unkempt blade]

I make my own with beams a lot

[pulsar tendon]

anyone got mods they recommend for a second playthrough?

[lime kraken]

I dont understand

[golden nexus]

Hard disc from computers used to be good

[fast finch]

ehrm, how do i do that?

[hard ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map and enable the caves layer

[fast finch]

ty

[pulsar tendon]

what does it do just let you get hard drives from computers?

[unkempt blade]

you unlock them in the awesome shop

[golden nexus]

yup

saves you running the map

[lime kraken]

ah ok not at this point but for later using it looks great thanks

[hard ivy]

I use SkyUI for permaday, no splash screens for... no splash screens, hoverpack configurator to buff it and my own rebalance mods

[hard ivy]

you can just buy them now

[pulsar tendon]

well yeah thats when you've got efficient good token earning factories you aint got that in the start of the game

[north summit]

is it worth it to sink your holiday FICSMAS cheer

since the FICSMAS items are sinkable

[unkempt blade]

make a bigger tree!

[golden nexus]

in terms of power, no... there way better options for points per watt

[pulsar tendon]

is no splash the massive satisfactory text and welcome messages at the start?

[candid marsh]

is there anything actually useful from this event or just cosmetic?

[golden nexus]

it funny, its gets completly out of hand

[candid marsh]

dunno I just researched the first thing and said yeah... not my thing

[severe cliff]

would it be better to build my trains on water level?

[versed cosmos]

yeah a lot of people build trains over the water because there's no elevation changes

[candid marsh]

mines are mostly straight lines over the mountains lol

[versed cosmos]

just build them really up high and do a spiral going down when needed lol

[golden nexus]

what happens is you get tree's which makes gifts which makes more tree's which makes more gifts which get turned into multiple other things later

[candid marsh]

sounds like ADA would be even more disappointed about me

[fast finch]

guys is it bug? is there no more sam in this new patch on COORDINATES: 269.113 / -262.355??? i see on interactive map that there is no sam there, but my radar detects it

[candid marsh]

underground maybe?

[golden nexus]

you don't get any progression. Itys like you get a 1200/min belt you get 1200/min points. Which would be sinking a motor a minute

[fast finch]

i am searching like hell, i cant find the entrance to underground

[white dawn]

Some cave systems are quite large! If you're okay with a full map spoiler, SCIM has a "caves" layer you can toggle which should help

[versed cosmos]

looking on interactive maps its elevation is 11m

[fast finch]

its ok, i found it finally. nevermind. i just wanted to avoid dragging sam from farther

[versed cosmos]

seems like it's in a cave

[primal obsidian]

dark matter crystallization is such a good alt

[white dawn]

Can always clip conveyor lifts through the ground. :)

[primal obsidian]

yes let’s go I’ve been searching forever for this SAM node

[white dawn]

Encase it in a little building to look more "official"

[ivory condor]

It's good for sure, especially for getting rid of dark matter byproduct

[fast finch]

oh no, i am a conveyor enjoyer and max trains for something like plastic/rubber. but in rest, i will conveyor half of map to get resources near my base lol

i am a chaos enjoyer

[primal obsidian]

60 train stations on the server im playing on

[fast finch]

i admire that kind of patience. i truly like the train system in this game, but i only went for 2 stations in my first finish of the game since 1.0 launch

no, i remembered now. it was 4 stations. for rubber/plastic and for alluminium.

[primal obsidian]

but trains are great

4?? Thats it?

[sacred trail]

I admire anyone who can organize at all. My train carries like 5-6 different stuff, and the smart splitters then put then in boxes. But it's a mess.

[golden nexus]

checkout this from a long time ago #1349353720034496512 message

[fast finch]

i never used smart splitters, i just went for the classic I WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO FROM WHERE. pretty simple

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-why-waste-time-few-word-gif-8100952

[rustic vigil]

will the next update be this year or next? do we know?

[green fiber]

next year likely

[leaden turret]

first half of next year but not january

[primal obsidian]

??? It’s one freight car/item why do you need smart splitters

are you not doing that

[sacred trail]

It's good. But I have kinda severe ADHD, and I can never do these things neatly. I don't even know why I play this game, because it's not something that I would otherwise play. But it's fun. So my stuff is a severe case of mess. Now that I finish the game, I plan to try to clean it up, make everything neat, but it's REALLY hard to me do do.

[fast finch]

i know exactly, first time when i played with friends, they were so much about "no, now at phase 2 we destroy everything and rebuild it in a much nicer way, ordonated and stuff", i went for that strategy for like until phase 3 or 4 something like that and we all quit, after that at launch of 1.0 i went alone

and finished it, without these kind of stupid rules

[north summit]

I have spent the last week placing foundations

[primal obsidian]

yeah if it works leave it alone plenty of nodes on the map otherwise you get burnt out

[reef basin]

to make coal?

[fast finch]

i admire people that really go professional about this game, i am having fun my own way. a good old vertical factory with each layer one type of phase compoments. that's how i go

[primal obsidian]

biocoal

[reef basin]

all of them are good ones 😉

[sacred trail]

You guys have this beautiful factories and I have this #screenshots message

[candid marsh]

where should I place valves?
like:

A) valve -------> junction
B) -------> valve junction

[golden nexus]

ITs extremly difficult to play games like satisfactory as a team. In fact you could even go as far to say the whole challange is getting to the end of the game without falling out with everyone else

[reef basin]

C) never

[versed cosmos]

delicious pasta

[candid marsh]

lol... why everyone hates valves?

[reef basin]

because they offer no advantage and usually break systems

[primal obsidian]

valves solve no problems I’ve never used them

[leaden turret]

last I checked they reset headlift

[golden nexus]

single use case which is valid is to offload water / fuel or something as a "power backup" to be able to later restart a power setup

[primal obsidian]

almost as bad as fluid buffers except those can be used for train stations

[leaden turret]

@green fiber do valves still reset headlift, or is my info out-of-date?

[reef basin]

pump can do that as well

[candid marsh]

I mean. I'm working on an aluminum factory, I just want to prevent the pump to push water from the pipes that should refeed the system

[primal obsidian]

I’ve used it one time for recycling dark matter residue since the vertical junction thing doesn’t work with gases but that could also be achieved with under clocking

[reef basin]

valves won't help with that

separate fresh and byproduct water instead

[candid marsh]

#screenshots message

this

[past hedge]

agreed

[fluid sapphire]

oof, bottom feeding and merging byproduct water

[ivory condor]

My main grip with valves, they offer no real solution to a problem that the game actually needs to solve with fluid systems, even the idea of limiting fluid flow through a section overall has very little use, because ultimately your either supplying the entire system what it needs and it all works, or you have a design issue that requires more pipe reworking and valves offer little if any real solutions

[candid marsh]

Like... making the pipes go all the way down to the extractors?

[reef basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1397218790122590208/image.png?ex=69382d66&is=6936dbe6&hm=1c46178180bc4f52104ac8fb702b4c25dbfb3253c0608e82cdb9030e30301096&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=685&height=968

[past hedge]

i have more stations than default names available for them

[green fiber]

under specific circumstances.
like using 2 valves after another.
but otherwise: no.
once the input is full they pass on head lift just fine.
Problem is that a pump cannot read past a valve.
Head lift gets applied but you cannot see the gauge rise

[primal obsidian]

me too

[ivory condor]

in short I think my main thing with valves isnt so much hate, its that I see valves as basically utterly useless, mechanic wise, like there is practically no real ingame use cases I have really come across that would require even limiting flow through a particular section of pipe

[candid marsh]

ohh I see.. thx!!!

[past hedge]

now heres the real question... whats your longest train?

[past hedge]

yep same

[ivory condor]

valves seem like a cool idea the devs decided to put into the game and didnt put in other mechanics along with it to make using valves in some cases actually making sense

[candid marsh]

I thought valves prevented the water to flow in both directions... damn arrow it's quite confusing ngl

[unkempt blade]

all my trains are the longest because they're the same size

[past hedge]

it does but i use pumps for that since it ads flow

and i have like 800,000MW of power so who cares

[unkempt blade]

you don't even need to power them if all you care about is limiting flow direction

[past hedge]

if you dont power them they block flow tho no?

[ivory condor]

Yeah as much as I try to find use for valves, because I thought it was a cool idea, ingame, yeah i still view valves as more or less this useless thing I can ignore and pretend doesnt exist

[unkempt blade]

nope they just don't add headlift

[past hedge]

lameee i have some that are 4 and some that are 6 but most importantly one that is 3104

surprisingly dont think i ever made any 8 freight car traisn cause i couldent fit them anywher with how i built this time

[ivory condor]

Do I even want to know what your answer is to this question now to

[gusty scaffold]

just got the game and struggling too hard with energy, anyone has advice?

[golden nexus]

add more power

[past hedge]

same as before just over 3000 but i am short a few from having a full loop around my tree so il probably expand it a smidge more

[unkempt blade]

I use 4 freight cars for all trains so I don't have to think too hard about station size using a global rain network

[gusty scaffold]

but its hard to collect enough bushes and wood to feed all of the bio energy thingies

[golden nexus]

chainsaw?

[gusty scaffold]

dont have it yet

[fluid sapphire]

work towards getting coal power asap, dont bother with any sort of scale until you have coal power

keep it small

[gusty scaffold]

ohh, how do i get coal power?

[golden nexus]

Get chainsaw, do this #screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

just keep progressing

[ivory condor]

Sounds cool, wonder how that save performs

[past hedge]

thats what i did but then i needed 20,000 coal per minute all the sudden for T9 and i wasent interested in making like 20 stations

[gusty scaffold]

alr thx

[fluid sapphire]

finish phase 1

[golden nexus]

you need to complete space elevator parts.. you will probably need power for that...

[gusty scaffold]

already did that

[past hedge]

about 40-50fps away from base and like 20-30fps in my base (with my 13700K)

[ivory condor]

i dont think the devs properly optimized this game with trains with thousands of freight cars in mind

[gusty scaffold]

did that too

[fluid sapphire]

tier 3 milestone, coal power

[gusty scaffold]

ohh ok, thanks!

[golden nexus]

also is your existing stuff efficent?

[past hedge]

if you dont hit the brakes your fine

[gusty scaffold]

wym by that?

[quick barn]

You doing ok?

[past hedge]

if you hit the brakes all the particles immediately crash the game faster than you can react

[golden nexus]

like oyu have rplate, rotor, rod, plate, wire, cable being made?

[ivory condor]

I remember testing one of your saves and getting about 50 fps when the train was in motion but I think thats when your train was shorter, so probably worse now

[gusty scaffold]

everything except rotor and rplate

[past hedge]

yea it was only 1000 back then

so its 3x that now

[ivory condor]

Definitely would really torture my cpu now

[golden nexus]

So for wire+cable you have like 1xminer, 2xsmelter, 4xwire constructors, 1xcable constructor

[past hedge]

i have still yet to find anyone deranged enough to have a longer train than me but im sure theres someone lurking somewhere

[gusty scaffold]

ohh alr im gonna do that

[golden nexus]

its hard to tell withou tknowing what you have

[versed cosmos]

if you just want to make cable its only 2 constructors making wire

but you prob want to send some wire to storage

[frosty crystal]

Is there a suggestions channel?

[gusty scaffold]

yea relatable, i have 6 hours and not too much yet

[golden nexus]

ther ekind a set of maxchines / power you need to clear phase 1 typically

[quick barn]

Perf mode is great.
Otherwise its very framey

[gusty scaffold]

im gonna make a list with the stuff i have

[golden nexus]

just screenshot it into #screenshots

[gusty scaffold]

ok

[ivory condor]

that and even with tracks running the entire length of the map, you would start to run into space issues

[past hedge]

oh yea 1000% i dont know for sure how long it is but i have MANY map lenghts of railway overall

[gusty scaffold]

posted

[frosty crystal]

Does anyone know if they are gonna add keyboard support for console?

[white dawn]

Yes, they're working on it, though it may take awhile

[golden nexus]

Yes, So not very optimal. If you look at wire there. You have miner -> smelter -> constructor -> output

Where the smaleter makes 30 but the constructor wants 15 so tyou need 2 construcotrs -> outpit = 60/min wire.

[frosty crystal]

Ok thanks

[white dawn]

See https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/console-release/ for some clips of them talking about it, btw

[gusty scaffold]

thank you! ill optimize it :)

[golden nexus]

same for iron. Like if you have a mk1 miner, You split the output and go to 2 smelters and then each smelter goes to plates making 20/min each. Then for rods you do the same but its 4 constructors instead of 2.

you need to match the output rate of buildings to the input rates of the next buildings

[primal obsidian]

like 6 freight cars long i think

for nuclear

[golden nexus]

Example of early game copper making wire+cable copper #screenshots message

[gusty scaffold]

alr, will definetly do that

[gusty scaffold]

thank you

[golden nexus]

i would also do this as well #screenshots message

and get chainsaw

[gusty scaffold]

got the chainsaw now :)

[gusty scaffold]

alright, going to do that now

[north summit]

do yall like the water tower design? #screenshots message

[limpid cairn]

no need to use buffers in this game

[candid marsh]

I do... looks like some kind of robot squid lol

[unkempt blade]

But what if I want to make stuff look cool?

[limpid cairn]

theres no coolness in factory, factory must grow 🐒

[unkempt blade]

must grow cooler, I agree

[leaden turret]

run pipe straight through buffer, it'll look like it's connected but not

[leaden turret]

🧊

[unkempt blade]

yeah but what if I want it to look cool AND have less intuitive flow/lift behavior?

[leaden turret]

🍝

[past hedge]

198KM of rail in my world

the map is what... 5KM?

i have 40 map lenghts

of rail

[karmic kayak]

Hey anyone knows whats the 1.007.000 upd is Are that just regular Bug fixes ?

[north summit]

its for the looks

[leaden turret]

#patch-notes

[unkempt blade]

1. it looks amazing 2) as with all things I think it needs more colors 😄

[spice patio]

CSS still not documenting any console version changelogs anywhere.

[north summit]

lit

[north summit]

probably, I color code my pipes based on whats in them

they'll look better in practice probably

[ivory condor]

Alright you win

[unkempt blade]

my builds spew rainbows everywhere so I'm a little biased as far as color usage goes

[north summit]

That’s awesome

[sacred trail]

How do I get rid of this objective icon here? #screenshots message

[white dawn]

I think a quit+reload clears that up

[sacred trail]

That did it. Ty

[leaden arch]

Anyone else trying to get all the resources on the map routed to one mega factory

My dumb brain got this idea and can't let go

[candid marsh]

not all of them but I'm kind off doing that too now

[leaden arch]

I've spent many hours just building a train loop around the whole map, but I know I'm gonna need more throughput than that so I think an inner loop and cross connectors too

[candid marsh]

I mean... at the end of the day, whatever works for you in this game is right

[leaden arch]

Where are you building your mega factory? Mine is entirely out on the water in the northwest corner. I figured it's flat and infinite water for recipes

[unkempt blade]

that's some solid train building

[past hedge]

yea thats what i usually do outside of a few exceptions like oil and nuclear because moving them is more work than its worth

[unkempt blade]

you going single direction or one rail each way?

[leaden arch]

Now do it with factory carts lmao

[candid marsh]

didn't started it yet... I'm removing all my modular factories in order to produce just ingots. and I still need to build the trains to transport somewhere... I think I'll just use the dunes for that

[unkempt blade]

I do trains, trucks, and carts using #screenshots message blueprints

[past hedge]

mine is in the grass fields cause its open, looks nice, and has sam all around it but center of the map would be most efficient

[unkempt blade]

also short-run conveyors inside the roads

[sharp basin]

Yo friend, yeah, haven’t been on Satis yet since 10 days, lots of stuff in my life irl rn, hesitating with an hardcore KDC2 playthrough

[quick barn]

I really should try to replay KCD1

Wait
What's KDC2?

[sharp basin]

Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, the game that should be GOTY this year even if it’s gonna be Exp 33

[ivory condor]

thats a tough one

[reef basin]

why am I pinged with that reply

[sharp basin]

Surely a mistake from @quick barn

[reef basin]

why am I pinged with that reply

[unkempt blade]

because you're an amazing person and we love you?

[mossy frigate]

Ok I checked patch notes, nothing, what was today’s console update if anyone knows?

[quick barn]

Happened more than once from me to random folks across servers lately. My bad.

I wonder if this mobile phone is update messed with touch target sensitivity or something.

[ivory condor]

I think it will be Exp 33 or death stranding 2 for GOTY, both are strong contenders

[reef basin]

I wouldn't build megafactory, but you do you

[quick barn]

That's what it thought.
I kickstarter the first game and then got my save corrupted by a bug at the 2nd castle after leaving your home by horse.

[sharp basin]

That’s a great and masterpiece one

[sharp basin]

Oh shit, go to the end of it man!

[quick barn]

I've heard it's great

[sharp basin]

It’s one of the best rpgs EVER

[quick barn]

Loves the sim take. I was about to learn to read and BAM. Stuck in the kitchen with no escape because am NPC closed the door on accident

[leaden turret]

#off-topic-general

[ivory condor]

As much as I like death stranding I'm personally really hoping Exp 33 wins GOTY

[mossy frigate]

Kickstarter has a lot of great stuff

[mossy frigate]

I wasn’t much of a fan tbh

[ivory condor]

really, Exp 33 is fantastic though👀

[mossy frigate]

Oh yes it was I meant death stranding

[ivory condor]

oh

ok that makes sense now

[white dawn]

I'm not sure why they don't seem to post console patch notes very reliably; they've always been good about it in the past. I wonder if it's partially down to the longer acceptance process for console patches, or something?

[mossy frigate]

Possibly

Good company regardless

[leaden arch]

Two way with three in and out spots

[ivory condor]

death strandings slower gameplay can be a bit off putting to some players, most of the game involves walking between location and delivering packages after all

[mossy frigate]

Mine was more the movement mechanics, I get they wanted a balancing system but imo it was not executed well

[unkempt blade]

I think that's one of the things I liked about it. I kind of miss the old "experiencing the world" parts of RPGs instead of just the amusement park model where they have somewhere I'm meant to go/do every 15s

[mossy frigate]

I grew up on old final fantasy hell yeah brother

[leaden arch]

#screenshots message

Screenshots of the foundation over the ocean (with my to-be-deleted tier 4 spaghetti underneath)

[ivory condor]

Sure later on you do get vehicles and it does speed up some of the gameplay loops, but first impressions are always going to be the one that lasts the most with players and that is of death stranding being a package delivery and walking simulator

[shy mulch]

I agree, but games like these are what you make them. I like that about satisfactory. I didn't really aim to complete it, it just kinda happened by accident after about 300 hours of wandering around atd doing whatever I felt like

[white dawn]

ADA must have been frustrated!

[mossy frigate]

I did the same thing, I squirreled so much 🤣

[unkempt blade]

yeah if you're the kind of person who can decide on your own objectives satisfactory can be even more fun than just the basic on-rails stuff

[mossy frigate]

“Ooh a slug” “ooh a Mercer sphere” “ooh a random rock”

Anyone free for some vc? I wanna bounce some ideas off someone

[shy mulch]

I'm the definition of the kind of player who thrives on setting my own goals. I've got 3 rail stations that are connected with a junction in the middle and a ton of locomotives with no freight cars, just rolling around aimlessly. That was how I learned how signals worked

[shy mulch]

Vc sucks. Just ask here or in #1038092680493801533 and someone who has the answers will be along at some point

[mossy frigate]

No thanks, would rather socialize on a social platform than sit and wait for a response

[reef basin]

would rather ask once than repeat the question for every new person who joins the call, and not have any output from it which could help more people than just you

[shy mulch]

Meh, we see things differently I suppose. For me I think the questions and answers being available to everyone is a lot more sociable than keeping them private

[mossy frigate]

I would rather get a response than not at all and the lack of response she happens very often on this server so

[mossy frigate]

Not private when it’s in a voice channel

[reef basin]

well given this server doesn't have VC, you will get more reposne via text

(and I haven't really seen "lack of answers" here, yes it takes a few minutes, possibly an hour, but practically all questions in #1038092680493801533 get answered)

[fluid sapphire]

well formulated posts get a lot of traction

more often than not

[shy mulch]

I just quickly scrolled down #1038092680493801533 and don't see any that have no responses

[mossy frigate]

Ive made some and got nothing after 5 days so

[reef basin]

link it please

[mossy frigate]

Your experience is different then

[mossy frigate]

I delete shit after no one responded after a time I dont like leaving clutter

[reef basin]

well then if you deleted it, it's hard to get responses lol

[mossy frigate]

Nevermind sorry I asked

[shy mulch]

That very rarely happens, if you're experiencing that regularly then it may indicate an issue with the way you've asked, presenting a clear solveable issue, with useful screenshots etc

[mossy frigate]

It was deleted after 5 days dude

I’m done arguing I’m out

[reef basin]

yeah and it could've been answered if you pinged the msg again

[shy mulch]

Seems like a skill issue

[mossy frigate]

Y’all handle your shit your way I’ll handle mine my way, yeah and you seem like an asshole issue

[reef basin]

I mean we handle things the way they are handled on this server 🤷

[shy mulch]

People here are very helpful to people who help themselves. You seem to be making it hard for both yourself and for the people who want to help

[mossy frigate]

God forbid I want to socialize

[mortal ginkgo]

Guys anybody wanna VC? I wanna talk in DETAIL about how to become a NORMAL limestone node!

[reef basin]

well we don't have VCs here

[river panther]

Do ore rocks respawn, or can I safely delete the stamps I placed for them on the map once I've mined them?

I'm assuming they don't, since pretty much every ore rock has a corresponding infinite resource node.

[mossy frigate]

Prime example of the assholes here, ty

[reef basin]

and we're not talking about socialisation, we're talking about your unasked question

[teal geyser]

Sometimes the best helpers in this Discord are asleep or at work, or doing something that prevents them from seeing your post sitting there to help you with your issue

[mortal ginkgo]

I became an Asshole Limestone Node instead of Normal.

Sad times.

[teal geyser]

Enough nobelisks and I'm sure we could change something lol

And he is gone!

[teal geyser]

What kind of ore rocks?

[shy mulch]

I can help you become an impure coal node if that helps. Post screenshots of any nearby SAM deposits in #1038092680493801533

[mortal ginkgo]

Wow, you guys really made him go.

And I got to be a prime example of it all?

[river panther]

The kinds that can only be mined by hand.

[teal geyser]

They don't respawn. Can I ask why you are marking them on the map?

[mortal ginkgo]

I think I am too introvert to understand people who goes "yo wanna VC I wanna talk bro".

[river panther]

So I know where to find them when I'm ready for them to be gone forever.

[mortal ginkgo]

Do you need them to be gone.. this much? I mean, they are A LOT in numbers.

[teal geyser]

Oh I see. Why not just mine them when you find them the first time?

[river panther]

Often times, my inventory will be full when I find them.

[teal geyser]

Even those cool glowing green ones!

[primal obsidian]

Trash slot

[river panther]

BLASPHEMY! You know FICSIT employees never waste! 😛

[primal obsidian]

i do

[mortal ginkgo]

I want to find the dev who put that Mercer Sphere literally inside an uranium rock which takes SO MANY HITS to get rid of and look at them IN A JUDGEMENTAL Manner.

[primal obsidian]

hazmat suit

[river panther]

But yes, thank you for answering my question. 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

I wouldn't be so judgemental if I had one brotherman of the century.

[primal obsidian]

changing my username to pure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

changing name is not enough. you need pfp and banner too.

from here I can see you dont have what it takes to be one. Heh.

[primal obsidian]

Did it work

[teal geyser]

HAHA

[teal geyser]

Have to capitalize the L and the N

[primal obsidian]

im not rich like you i can’t afford a banner

[mortal ginkgo]

You don't have green behind that limestone icon.
You got no banner.
Your name's words are not capitalized.

Don't try again. You will only bring more SHAME to my ACTUAL PURE limestone node brothers.

[north summit]

I wish i could blow up ore chunks

instead of mining them

[primal obsidian]

ok

[north summit]

besides i guess uranium

[teal geyser]

Are you talking about the ones scattered out in the wild not in the way of your builds?

[north summit]

yeah

and the ones on top of nodes

[fluid sapphire]

they do respawn, i have for sure destroyed the same ones multiple times

[grizzled lotus]

I want to make a blueprint for vertical factories. will just have a bunch of floors on top of each. what's a good height difference? 5m?

[primal obsidian]

depends on the machines

[grizzled lotus]

unfortunate. will make them 6m because that's all my blueprint designers can take atm

[primal obsidian]

refineries are really tall but constructors are really small

[clear aspen]

He has upgraded lol

[primal obsidian]

but 6m should be good done refineries fit into mk.2 blueprint

uhh no

Impure limestone node is a different person

[ivory condor]

[primal obsidian]

normal limestone node when

[ivory condor]

[woeful warren]

Guys is got a new update (am on a ps5) are there any patch notes or whatever yet(update: 1.007.000)

[primal obsidian]

ok im done with identity theft now

[ivory condor]

[grizzled lotus]

I'm about to build my first "megafactory". will raze my main base first. wish me luck

[primal obsidian]

why raze your main base when you could build a new one

[hard stump]

So trains can I have a single station but 2 trails pick up different items at the station? Or would I have to make 2 stations and then just tell what train to go to what station?

[grizzled lotus]

I believe you can, but you'd have to make 2 freight stations attached

[primal obsidian]

2 trains picking stuff up front one station is possible if edit the timetable

so each train only loads the item it needs

[grizzled lotus]

my main base is kind of messed up and vertical (the 2nd forest biome). thought instead of tidying it up I could just make one big elevated building with floors inside

[hard stump]

Well it would be a total of 8 stations with each train taking 4 different items. As it’s been recommended that I do 1 station per item

[grizzled lotus]

I've seen people recommend having different stations in parallel

[hard stump]

I can do that not really a big deal be cool to have 1 station but I still get the fun of having tracks connect with 2 stations so not that big of a deal

[clear aspen]

Hello chat

[primal obsidian]

cant wait to rebuild my motor rotor and stator factory

why

why’d it reply to you

[grizzled lotus]

I'm mid-raze and I can already feel regret seeping in

[sharp basin]

I’m french, so I should be with Exp 33. But it’s Silksong VS KCD2 for me.

I’m not saying the truth. It’s KCD2. By far.

[primal obsidian]

yeah that’s why you just run away from your base and make the mega factory somewhere else

like the swamp

[grizzled lotus]

if it doesn't work I'll go back to a save

if I understand correctly, no matter what position I am in when I try to build something it'll be aligned to a certain grid?

[last wasp]

there is a way to make roads?

[grizzled lotus]

you can build ramps and foundations which can act like roads, and build railings so it looks pretty. also please change your pfp

[white dawn]

If you hold down Ctrl, new foundations you build will be aligned to a "World Grid" which is north/south/east/west-oriented. Doing so does make it trivial to "join up" disparate areas via foundation

[ivory condor]

Both are fantastic games, its going to be tough call this year

[white dawn]

Personally I feel it's a bit of a trap, and I far more enjoy building "with" the environment. (And there are pretty trivial ways to "join up" disparate areas which are on different "local" grids, should you want to do so.) But it's definitely a popular option

[ivory condor]

I'm still hoping for Exp 33 for GOTY personally, but it could easily go to one of the other top contenders for sure.

[sharp basin]

Exp 33/KCD2/Silksong are 3 masterpieces, really, like an impossible choice

[last wasp]

whars wrong with my pfp, its from a tv show

[grizzled lotus]

it's unsettlingly bloody

[white dawn]

https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?meta[]=roads

[last wasp]

Yours is too blue, I dont like blue

[ivory condor]

Tell me about it but somehow a winner will be decided come the 11th, wait for it👀

[grizzled lotus]

I see what you mean. I'm just trying to build one big local factory

[raven hinge]

how to properly automate? someone please tell me

is the correct solution just automating a specific material and stuffing it into a box until you need it or am I geeked

[sharp basin]

Gonna be Exp 33

[grizzled lotus]

yes. make a small factory to build a specific material (or two) and have them attached to storages. Whenever you need more of that material you can pick some from there

that way you can do other stuff while still generating more stuff

[ivory condor]

But I thought you were hoping for KCD2 to win

Personally I think it will be Exp 33 as well but I think thats my biased for really wanting it to win

[raven hinge]

i just got to phase 4 and me+my bro have to restart our factory (conveyor spaghetti)

i set up a very organized turbofuel power plant and plastic producer 9000

no trains or long distance transportation we just use hypertube cannons and pretty much do everything manually

[grizzled lotus]

D :

[last wasp]

a lift move things slower than a conveyor or the same speed? if both are the same tech like mk3

[open swallow]

same speed

[last wasp]

ok tyvm

[raven hinge]

80 hours on the save and there was an mk1 belt coming from a copper node to a furnace 💔 made a shrine in its memory

[meager kiln]

I have for most things but now thst I'm starting my first rail I'm trying to figure out my stations and signaling and all that. I'll go from scratch tho . Thanks !

[open swallow]

One of the key differences is that all blocks need to have the same kind of signal going into them, no mixing and matching

[meager kiln]

Good to know. I was gonna do signal in and block out for any merges/splits

I guess I can just do all block. Not like I'm gonna be running many trains anyway

[open swallow]

Simple merges and splits don't need path signals

just regular block signals (this is also true in factorio)

[meager kiln]

Okay I'll do that and keep it simple

[open swallow]

also, path signals here intelligently allow multiple trains into a block if their paths don't intersect

[meager kiln]

Also good to know

[open swallow]

generally far fewer signals are needed

[meager kiln]

True but I spent a bunch of time in the train channel and went down the rabbit hole of trains over there )

[glad quest]

i dont like train signals (im too stupid to figure out how they work)

[haughty patio]

Do you need stronger bombs for this one?#screenshots message

[open swallow]

That's a mineable rock, not an explodable one

[glad quest]

u can mine rock? dafuq

[haughty patio]

there's no prompt...

[reef basin]

(also, #screenshots isn't ideal for asking questions, #1038092680493801533 is better)

[open swallow]

WAIT, I'm MISTAKEN

[haughty patio]

DUH!

[open swallow]

Try placing multiple nobelisks... Sometimes bigger rocks need them

[vagrant zodiac]

thank you

[haughty patio]

I place like 5 of them on it

ok, I guess it wasn't enough explosions

[candid marsh]

Well... I couldn't with myself and I had to try valves lol. It seems to be working after some tries but in a non logical way honestly

[glad quest]

its cuz of priority

u know the cross shaped pipe mergers?

[candid marsh]

uh? how does it work?

I mean... it's a fluid, it's supposed to spread pressure evenly

[open swallow]

Got it solved, then?

[candid marsh]

I really hate fluids in this game ngl

[glad quest]

same

they r fixing it tho i think

[candid marsh]

yeah they posted a meme saying they'll fix it in 1.2

[glad quest]

imkimbitz did a vid and explained it tho i do not remember

[glad quest]

IT WAS A MEME 😭

[candid marsh]

oh rly? I got baited lmao

[charred thistle]

I messed up my factory trying to go vertical out the jump time to restart

[sage gazelle]

Is there gonna be a bigger discount in christmas or should I get the game now?

[open swallow]

It's against a dev's best interest to announce sales ahead of time

Just buy the game if you want it now. It's worth it, I promise

[reef basin]

get the game now, support devs more

[sage gazelle]

Just asking cause if yall been here for a while, you could probably predict how they do things, if its just gonna be the same discount again, or higher.

[reef basin]

or you could buy the game you want and not care about discounts

[sage gazelle]

Well if you can send me 10$ I wouldn't even need to wait for a sale.

[charred thistle]

there's a 30% discount rn might as well get it idk if it'd drop lower

[reef basin]

if you don't have money for full game, then no reason to ask, right?

you'll just buy once it's on sale

[sage gazelle]

Which is now, but I'm asking if a Christmas sale would offer a bigger one or not, It's not hard to understand that for some people, being able to spend less is good for their finances no?

[white dawn]

We are not CSS, and CSS don't announce their sale plans ahead of time, any more than other companies do

[sage gazelle]

Thanks.

[sage gazelle]

"Just asking cause if yall been here for a while, you could probably predict how they do things, if its just gonna be the same discount again, or higher.
"

[white dawn]

You can always look at steamdb if you want historical info, and can make your own inferences from there: https://steamdb.info/app/526870/

[sage gazelle]

Hmm thx for the data.

[south idol]

mmm, man only buys game once, does not notice discounts in later years

[reef basin]

the first answer you got already said that for obvious reasons devs won't announce sales ahead of time

[sage gazelle]

I mean if you talk here often, I assume it would be a common ocorrunce for the topic to come up for new players no?

[south idol]

new players tend to already have the game

[sage gazelle]

Or people looking to get into it, falls same category.

Just like some would look on reddit.

Before starting, if you understand what I mean.

[white dawn]

Anyway, you've gotten what little info there is on the topic. Time to move on, maybe? :)

[reef basin]

no, since devs don't announce sales ahead of time 🙂

[sage gazelle]

Your continuous repetition of the same sentence provides nothing useful to the conversation, green blue man. It's pretty obvious that there would be a sale on the big christmas holiday no?

That wasn't even my question.

[reef basin]

no

[sage gazelle]

Even if you say it's not obvious, it wasn't the question.

What does the emote mean anyway?

Or no meaning.

[reef basin]

question was whether there will be a sale, answer was given multiple times 🤷 we don't and can't know

[sage gazelle]

Question was whether on a christmas sale, the discount would be higher or is current one what they always do.

[reef basin]

same answer, we don't and can't know

[sage gazelle]

So you can't know the past?

[reef basin]

you're asking about future

[open swallow]

Sorry to be so hostile, but we don't know. We won't know until it happens. You have steamdb for historical prices.

[hard ivy]

you can just check steamdb for the price history. it's gonna give you a better answer than anyone/anything else

[south idol]

someone just commented on a screenshot i shared

[sage gazelle]

Not hostile, thanks.

[south idol]

but posts without images get deleted - now i will never know what it was

[open swallow]

Here's where the hostility comes: If you're going to bitch and whine at us for not being able to read minds, please go elsewhere

[south idol]

-# my dopamiiinnee

what if drones got an upgrade that you could get inside a special compartment, but not drive them >.>

[charred thistle]

there's drones?

[sage gazelle]

I assumed your previous message was supposed to be hostile, that's what it saying sorry to be hostile in it would mean.

I'm also sorry you're mad at an internet comment.

Have a nice weekend, dude.

[charred thistle]

:0

:D

idk what's happening tbh im just happy to be included

[south idol]

yeah, but just for material transport, not designed for pioneer transport

[charred thistle]

waiting for 300 copper ore to turn into ingots

[charred thistle]

so i can't yoink other peeps

[sage gazelle]

Any good content creator anyone would recommend for beginners?

[south idol]

why wait when you can build more factory! while waiting, make blueprints for basic factory elements

[reef basin]

none

[sage gazelle]

What a sad community this is.

[charred thistle]

because i restarted from tutorial like an idiot

[white dawn]

Mostly we tend to recommend avoiding youtubers/streamers/Discord-advice as a beginner. Just learn the game at your own pace, make your own mistakes, etc

[hard ivy]

none of them. it's best to figure everything out yourself

[reef basin]

no, just community creators spoil the game for you

[south idol]

-# pink pink pink pink pink pink pink pink pinkpink pink pink
stready as she goes

[sage gazelle]

I see, sorry then, I assumed you were being hostile. Thanks

[white dawn]

You only get to learn the game for the first time once, and it can be a lot of fun. Going in without preconceptions lets you explore unencumbered by other folks' biases

[reef basin]

and usually don't teach best practices anyway

[charred thistle]

yeap good thing it mutes in the background so I'm listening to old school rap and divorced dad rock while i wait for 500 wire

[south idol]

you can come watch my streams, im 300 hours deep in my second save, but ill answer questions </shameless plug>
it will reduce the joy of playing the game yourself for the first time though </truth>

[south idol]

i bequeath unto you this ancient wisdow: when you need a thing, automate that thing.

[sage gazelle]

Any must know tip to not suffer as much while figuring stuff out?

[charred thistle]

cant automate i havent unlocked the constructor or miner im at tier 0

[south idol]

learn to enjoy suffering and there will be no suffering

[hard ivy]

do not ignore the MAM

[charred thistle]

I told you i had to restart @south idol qwq

[south idol]

-# ⁱᵐ ˢᵒʳʳʸ ᶠᵒʳ ʸᵒᵘʳ ˡᵒˢˢ

[charred thistle]

-# 3:

[south idol]

maybe it's not too late to restart from after tutorial then?

[charred thistle]

Floobs going on smoko then I'll worry about automating, I set my character to mine iron so it'll be aight

[charred thistle]

Eh I wound up in a good spot for copper and iron

[south idol]

neat, which part of the map? the south, the nortwest, or the northeast?

[charred thistle]

Uh I dunno I forgor

[ornate cairn]

i was recommended to build my oil power with "Heavy oil residue" & "Diluted Packaged Fuel" ... i just got "Diluted Fuel" recipe and the alternate recipe tier list on reddit doesn't even show "dil packaged fuel". Is it the same or did the other got removed?

[south idol]

youre doing an excellent impression of the pioneer as seen by ADA 😛

[charred thistle]

:D

[reef basin]

don't use tier lists

[south idol]

use greeny's tool 😄

[charred thistle]

I found a stray cat lil dude is sitting on my foot while I smoke

[hard ivy]

diluted fuel and diluted packaged fuel have the same ratio of inputs to outputs.

[ornate cairn]

I got the Heavy oil and was farming for the dil packaged fuel, so i used the t list to just select the best ones of the ones of everything else i got

[hard ivy]

but actually. always use that over any tierlist

[south idol]

he adopted you?

[charred thistle]

Cat distribution chose me

[shy mulch]

I stood on a nail today

[charred thistle]

I nailed on a stood today

[open swallow]

hope you've got your tetanus shot

[charred thistle]

Fr tho might wanna get that checked out

[shy mulch]

it went between my toes, straight through my shoe but didn't break the skin, lucky escape

[reef basin]

you know the lists are subjective and there's multiple of them, each ranking recipes differently? so relying on them is basically rolling a dice

just pick ones you like - much better approach

[ornate cairn]

whats greenys tool

[south idol]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[shy mulch]

it's about this long |----------| you can't miss it

[open swallow]

for some font size, I'm sure

[south idol]

"It's always after 5'oclock somewhere"

[south idol]

if you have alt recipes, you need to add them to to the list under "recipes"

[charred thistle]

another factory floob :0

[ornate cairn]

So using diluted fuel instead of packaged is the same? I was recommended to use the packaged

[reef basin]

play your game, don't just blindly follow random advices 🙂

(and yes, in terms of oil -> fuel, it's the same)

[open swallow]

yes, it's the same, just a bigger pain to assemble when you use packaged

[normal stump]

hey can someone please help explain why my refinery isn't working? .. i have a fluid buffer connected for byproduct but it still won't work

[versed cosmos]

you get packaged earlier and the logistics might be easier because fewer pipes

[open swallow]

post some screenshots in #1038092680493801533

[shy mulch]

one of the core concepts of this game is to calculate stuff like that out, that is a relatively easy one to calculate so try and do it as practice, so when you get to complex recipes you aren't overwhelmed. if you ask people to do it for you at this stage, you'll just cause yourself to rely on others even more later on

[ornate cairn]

I jsut want to focus on some cozy building while watching series or something, not think myself 😅

[reef basin]

recommendation: do not use buffers 😉

[versed cosmos]

sorry bro this is the thinking game

[reef basin]

then you're playing wrong game

[normal stump]

even if i connect a packager for it it still doesn't work

[versed cosmos]

turn your byproduct into a solid and sink it

heavy oil residue can be made into petro coke for example

[ornate saffron]

Mmmm petrol coke. Great for coal generators and steel

[reef basin]

make a #1038092680493801533 post like you were told

and include images and such

[normal stump]

i'm working on it xD

[ornate saffron]

This is a poor forum for trouble shooting. Greeny doesn't mean to be rude he is just direct. When you have your post up in #1038092680493801533 we are happy to help there

[versed cosmos]

man i just snort it but whatever floats your boat i guess

[charred thistle]

is there an autorun feature

[reef basin]

in settings

[charred thistle]

which section i checked controls and keybinds

[vague plume]

Guys, i just bought Satisfactory on my own account

Played it for a long time at my uncle's

And OMG, THERE'S TRAIN INGAME, I LIKE TRAINS

[charred thistle]

THERE'S TRAINS?!

are there planes :0

[wicked willow]

Technically no
However..... ||there are drones.|| (Spoiler warning)

[gloomy dagger]

I think itll be cool if they added planes

Have us go to other maps

[charred thistle]

no planes can't overthrow a planet in a f-16 big sad :c

[white dawn]

New maps are extremely unlikely, btw, at least in the near-to-mid future

[hard stump]

Anyone know how many Ingots cast screw uses???? Saw that recipe but didn’t get it. But this big project I’m been delaying will actually go so much better with that n I can at least start the footprint if i know how many ingots per minute it uses

[primal obsidian]

there are mods though so maybe there are planes

[leaden turret]

technically yes https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/meta-search/?q=spaceship+AND+author%3A53d5e7d0-6501-4c45-a2c6-95ef05c9ba8c 😛

[white dawn]

Possibly if they decide to do future large DLC, or in a hypothetical Satisfactory 2.0 or something, but definitely don't hold your breath for new maps at the moment

[gloomy dagger]

I meant to the ones we already have

[leaden turret]

we only have one map

[cyan prism]

There's only one map

[white dawn]

There's just one big (handcrafted) map, with multiple starting points

You can already just hike over to any of the other starting points (and everywhere inbetween!)

[primal obsidian]

yeah

[gloomy dagger]

Ohhhh

[leaden turret]

🪨🏜️🌲🌲 🏃‍♀️ 🌲🌲🌲🏜️

[wicked willow]

........
It's peak.

[white dawn]

Needs more cats

[gloomy dagger]

I thought what i saw were different maps when i was going through them. Didnt know it was just where you start, thought they were seperate maps

[white dawn]

A common misconception; you're in good company. :)

[leaden turret]

🪨🏜️ 🌲🌲 🏃‍♀️ 🌲 🌲 🌲 🏜️

[gloomy dagger]

I did just start playing, i am noob indeed

Noob*

frick ……

[primal obsidian]

i found that out when i found the place my old base was in my singleplayer save

[leaden turret]

reminder: you can edit your messages on discord 😛

[gloomy dagger]

Sucks on phone but yeah

There

[charred thistle]

early power confines suck :C

[sacred basalt]

hello

[primal obsidian]

early power sucks since it’s not automated

[white dawn]

At least belt-fed burners take away most of the pressure

[whole drum]

This is why I only make good ones

[white dawn]

Can set things up so that your only involvement is tossing wood/leaves/remains into some bins

[open swallow]

(remains are your best bet for biofuel, btw)

go slaughter the wildlife to power your factory

[white dawn]

(I admit I have a hard time using remains for anything but DNA, but they do generate a lot of biomass, too)

[leaden turret]

-# don't forget you can huff pork chops

[charred thistle]

yeah :c

[knotty rock]

hi folks, first time back from early access, anything new in the game since it released?

[hard ivy]

a lot

[leaden turret]

#patch-notes / #announcements

[whole drum]

No

[knotty rock]

perfect thanks

[primal obsidian]

the number changed

[whole drum]

They never add content with new releases. Weird.

[leaden turret]

generally recommended to use shit-eating-grin emotes when trolling because we don't have a trollface emote

i.e. or

[knotty rock]

watching numbers go up is a joy in and of itself

[whole drum]

See, if I could use pics/gifs, I would have

But I also know that this chat is full of people that love correcting other people, so I knew y'all had my back, lol

[knotty rock]

surely it cant be thattttt different

[whole drum]

When did you last play?

[hard stump]

Anyone know how many Ingots cast screw uses???? Saw that recipe but didn’t get it. But this big project I’m been delaying will actually go so much better with that n I can at least start the footprint if i know how many ingots per minute it uses

[primal obsidian]

check the wiki

[leaden turret]

there's a toilet, kitchen, and snow biome now

[primal obsidian]

then do math

[knotty rock]

twoish years ago

[primal obsidian]

i think it’s !wikisearch screws

[knotty rock]

thank goodness, i couldn't hold it for much longer

[whole drum]

0.9-ish then?

[primal obsidian]

i dont know

[leaden turret]

reminder: there was no 0.9

[twilit peak]

What's better for power, heavy turbo fuel or blend turbo fuel?

[hard ivy]

there was no 0.9 lol

[white dawn]

Alternatively, there was, and it was called Update 8! :D

[hard ivy]

default turbofuel

[knotty rock]

on the wiki now, just poking around

[leaden turret]

that would make 1.0 update 10

[whole drum]

See? These guys got me covered!

[leaden turret]

on the wiki, or on the abandoned trash fire? 😛

[primal obsidian]

12.5 ingots/min to 50 screws/min

[knotty rock]

wiki.gg?

[white dawn]

Heh, was more inferring the whole "update 3.5 really should've been update 4" thing. :D

[knotty rock]

i don't use fandom if that's where the old wiki was

[leaden turret]

that's the correct one

[whole drum]

But if it's been a couple years, there's a bit of new content and A LOT of QOL/bug fixes between then and now.

[leaden turret]

3.6

[leaden turret]

well you can dunk on console players for not being able to save edit now

[white dawn]

Anyway, yeah, the announcement videos for both 1.0 and 1.1 should give a decent overview of new stuff in the game since Update 8. There's a lot, honestly

[whole drum]

Or for using a controller on a clearly mouse/kb game

[white dawn]

s/clearly/historically/

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> video idea for 1.2 launch, broken down by chapter;

• "I have not played since 1.0"
• "I have not played since update 8"
• ... etc ...
• "I have not played since the alpha weekend"

[white dawn]

mmm, 12 Days Of Christmas-style video, excellent.

Could spin that into a multi-hour video for sure!

[leaden turret]

December 2nd, 2025
Q&A: Keyboard & Mouse support for Console?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4UmMtjILV0

we hope to get that in by 1.2

[whole drum]

That's actually awesome for console players

[leaden turret]

I was more meaning rapid-fire stuff 😛

[whole drum]

I know some people love their controllers for ergonomic comfort, but this game is so much smoother with M/KB.

[leaden turret]

can't accurately run away from with controller

[wicked willow]

Not the !!!

[whole drum]

There's just so many useful hotkeys that don't fit on a controller tbh

[knotty rock]

welp time to make the most abysmal abomination of a factory the world has ever seen

[whole drum]

Or start fresh and make a nice one 🙂

[knotty rock]

regardless of whether or not i start fresh, the factory will be horrific

my reckless disregard for clipping will never cease to haunt me

[whole drum]

Horror is in the eye of the beholder

As is an anti-magic field

[iron notch]

Finally got the game

Anyone have any advice on what to do/not do?

[white dawn]

1. Ignore youtubers/streamers/this Discord. Make your own mistakes, not someone else's!
2. Have fun

[iron notch]

best advice i've heard ty

[leaden turret]

don't listen to anyone who takes offense at how you have fun.

there's some weird people in this discord

[white dawn]

(I mean obvs if you're having a problem of some sort, or are feeling frustrated by something, feel free to seek out advice, etc. :D)

[sour ledge]

man... every single time i tell myself "Just build a quick little power plant to tide you over for now - dont waste time making it look nice, you're gonna rebuild it later" i find myself still making sure to perfectly space everything.... just not used to slapdash laying stuff down...

[clever sandal]

guys i got the (extremly sped up voice)

i didn't mean to aggravate the ADA 😭

[sour ledge]

it's a rite of passage! ADA discards you like used toilet paper and prefers the aliens anyway so aint no reason to avoid those toes

[clever sandal]

why is it so passive-aggressive all the time

[leaden turret]

active-aggressive AI would be terminator

[clever sandal]

and why does it hate christmas so much

[sour ledge]

it's inefficient!

[golden nexus]

cause your property

[leaden turret]

ADA has no feet and thus no stockings, always gets looked over for ficsmas presents

[clever sandal]

you're

[golden nexus]

not where i am from 😛

[abstract heron]

Is Mikael better? @void gorge

Or still feeing like crap

[whole drum]

"Your" is possessive--it means you own something
"You're" is a contraction of "you are"

[clever sandal]

you are a property

[abstract heron]

@obsidian zodiac video this Friday?

[golden nexus]

Where I am from has mangled english with not less then 5 others languages mixed into it, the grammer rules are nae the same so they not

[whole drum]

The mixup is usually that people mispronounce "you're"

[twilit peak]

Do i wait to get diluted fuel to upgrade my fuel energy plant?

[whole drum]

Do you need power now?

[golden nexus]

there 2 versions, packed and blended... the blended is easier

[twilit peak]

I'm not in tier 7 yet

[clever sandal]

change of topic, what does the rebar gun do

[whole drum]

Damage

[golden nexus]

accelerates rebar

suggested use is to point front towards enemy

[whole drum]

Similar concept as the rifle

[primal obsidian]

gun before you unlock the gun

[teal geyser]

Turns enemies into not enemies anymore

[sour ledge]

explosive rebar means i like it better'n the rifle....

[whole drum]

Turns them into biofuel

[clever sandal]

so its kind of tranqualiser?

[primal obsidian]

it’s a gun

[whole drum]

Yes, but permanent

[primal obsidian]

it shoots stuff

and then it dies

[twilit peak]

So i wait to tier 7 to unlock blended?

[teal geyser]

More like a permanent tranquilizer

[white dawn]

The Packaged version is pretty simple to deal with once you realize that you can fit a "closed-loop" 1x Refinery + 2x Packager inside even a 4x4 blueprint, with some Empty Packages included right inside the blueprint as well. A simple one-click "mini-blender" which outputs 60/min Fuel (taking in HOR + Water)

Nah, no need to wait. Though making those closed-loop blueprints are, IMO, highly recommended for anyone working w/ Packaged Diluted Fuel

[teal geyser]

I never thought about blueprinting it. I'm about to set up a power plant myself using Diluted

[clever sandal]

also what happens when a train crashes and falls into the abyss

[white dawn]

The non-packaged Blender version in Phase 4 is a little more power-efficient, and it's nice to just have a single building instead of three, but blueprinting it makes the Packaged version quite reasonable

[white dawn]

One potential layout which fits in the 4x4 blueprinter, fwiw: #math-and-meta message -- As I say, you can even include like 20ish Empty Packages inside the input buffer of the Packaged Water packager, and that'll get placed down along with the blueprint

[twilit peak]

To be honest i'm not in need of mich power anyway, and i'm about to reach phase 3 if the assembler wants to go faster so i think i'll just wait, i don't even have packed diluted fuel

[versed cosmos]

you could go turbo heavy fuel alt and skip making fuel entirely

[twilit peak]

That's what i was asking before

[unkempt blade]

plus the packaged versions works even better with factory cart logistics than the unpackaged version

[sour ledge]

From your perspective it's just gone - it falls to the bottom of the map, well past the point where the game instamurders you, and lands there. It still exists down there though, and will just sit there forever...

[vagrant stump]

A manifold is a row of spliters or mergers?

[sour ledge]

its usually referring to splitters but i mean, a lot of the time those splitters are fed by a merger so i guess it depends how you look at it

[hard ivy]

more or less, yeah

[vagrant stump]

What's the more

[sour ledge]

an example of a simple manifold is if you have a row 5 smelters using 30 ore/m and one belt with splitters feeding 150 ore/m. The first splitter sends half, or 75 ore/m into the first smelter... but obviously that's more than it can use, and only leaves 75 ore for the other 4. Once the first smelter is 'full' the excess beyond 30/m keeps getting pushed along... until ultimately the whole manifold is filled up and each is effectively receiving 30/m

that manifold could be fed by a merger from two ore machines or what have you, so the manifold is technically both mergers and splitters

[teal geyser]

Yyou can have a manifold of mergers too

[sour ledge]

and naturally as the scale increases you can add more and more mergers and splitters...

[hard ivy]

well, you also need belts connected in the right way
like this, for example

-s-s-s-s-s
 | | | | |

or

 | | | | |
-s-s-s-s-s
 | | | | |

splitters can be mergers too ofc

[clever sandal]

brother, may i have some oats

[unkempt blade]

similar but less awesome than the cartifold which is a row of truck stations + a factory cart route

[clever sandal]

can you guys give some tips on increasing steel products production?

[whole drum]

Make more steel

[unkempt blade]

use more iron and coal/coke than you're currently using

[clever sandal]

well currently i make 67.5 per minute

oh god

[unkempt blade]

coke steel is better than vanilla steel

[whole drum]

I wouldn't waste oil that way, lol

[white dawn]

Best, of course, is Dr. Pepper Steel

[sour ledge]

i usually use the solid steel alt myself

[clever sandal]

well i only have coal + iron steel ingot

[sour ledge]

300 iron/coal in, 450 steel ingots out

[unkempt blade]

I'm more of a Mr Pibb Steel kind of guy

or our official state soda-metal Cheerwine Steel is pretty good

[clever sandal]

would stalin or austrian guy be fond of this video game?

[whole drum]

Probably not. There's nobody around to dominate/torture for no good reason.

[golden nexus]

nope, there no pvp in this game so stalin would disprove

[unkempt blade]

yes because it shows us the perils of late stage space capitalism through its narrative arc

[clever sandal]

there are guns and explosives so i disagree with your opinion

[whole drum]

As much fun as it is to ragdoll your friends with the rebar gun, I wouldn't overly call that "pvp."

[clever sandal]

i mean he would rather like the industrial side than the capitalism side

[white dawn]

Now you've got me thinking about Soda Metal being a music subgenre. :D

[golden nexus]

PvP in this game from my point of view is a 10x10 grid, same resources and first person to produce x/ y / z 🙂

[unkempt blade]

or as midwesterners would know it "pop metal"

[white dawn]

... well played

[whole drum]

People who call it "pop" need to get popped in the nose

[white dawn]

As someone who's lived in various bits of the midwest I have completely forgotten over time which of the two I'm "supposed" to be using. Fortunately I rarely drink the stuff anyway so it doesn't come up much. :D

[whole drum]

Yeah, some people call all sodas "coke" too, despite it being a specific brand

But suggesting people should get coke'd in the nose probably means something entirely different

[heavy pine]

Funny how a large project can point out unnoticed deficiencies. Trying to build a bajillion Foundries for the iron and copper ornaments, ran out of modular frames. Turns out I was still limping along on the supply from my starter base.

[unkempt blade]

It's actually snowing IRL! Truly a ficsmas miracle

[whole drum]

Keep that shit away from me

[unkempt blade]

I better go make sleet angels while I still can

[sour ledge]

as someone from denver currently living in texas... i miss snow. good times, good times... don't miss shoveling though.

[white dawn]

I always figure I know I don't get enough exercise as it is, so the shovelling is good for me. :D

[digital python]

lol - come to Hamburg. All wet all the time, but rarely ever snow

this year we actually had snow in November - for about 24 hours, and just a few cm.

[unkempt blade]

yeah my current home gets much less snow much less frequently than where I grew up and I miss real winter

[digital python]

since then nothing, and I do not expect christmas to be white either

[sour ledge]

the real fun is being someone from snow country during the extremely rare snow we get here

[digital python]

being the only one to be able to drive safely, I assume

[sour ledge]

a couple (few?) years ago we got hit by snow here in austin and it was like being a level 5 human among level 1's lol, nobody could drive or go out worth a damn and i just opened my winter stuff storage and was good to go

[unkempt blade]

people put on their puffy coats at like 65F here and it never makes sense to me

[sour ledge]

gods, yes. that's actually happening TODAY, people go out like they're climbing mount everest and it's sunny in the 60's

[white dawn]

To be fair, places which rarely get snow also generally don't prepare roads for snow/ice properly. The same weather in Texas could legit be a lot more dangerous to drive on than it would be in Wisconsin, etc

[sour ledge]

oh it definitely was - no salt or anything

but y'know, you grow up with snow and you've had to deal with unsalted and icy roads before still y'know? you can still get around, just gotta be more careful than usual

[white dawn]

Hah, yeah, for sure. (And of course knowing how to sensibly respond when you do start sliding, etc)

[leaden turret]

-# back in my day cars slid uphill both ways

[grizzled lotus]

where can I find all my alt recipes

[sour ledge]

man i actually saw that looney tunes stuff during our freeze

there was a car that straight up could not get the grip to climb a hill

[white dawn]

There's no in-game way to get a full list, but if you open the Codex (o or n) and search for a resource, you'll see all the alts you have unlocked to produce that resource

[digital python]

summer tire

[white dawn]

Outside of the game, you can load your game into SCIM (https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map) to get a collected list of all your unlocked alts, though note that that'll be a full-map spoiler

[leaden turret]

does the ficsmas skins for vehicles have snow tires? 🤔

[leaden turret]

assuming you're not on console

[charred thistle]

I need to get solid biofuel unlocked before I run outta power :C

[leaden turret]

I still think crouching on the toilet should generate solid biofuel

[charred thistle]

that'd be hilarious

[noble torrent]

not the same kind of log tho

[leaden turret]

you'd prefer it generate liquid biofuel?

[noble torrent]

nah.. would have to be processed.. gaseous tho?

[open swallow]

my body is a machine that turns pizza into liquid biofuel

[unkempt blade]

That'd be way better. Biofuel is the best

[glass pagoda]

Hi

Nvm I just scrolled up goodbye

[leaden turret]

lol

🏃‍♀️
🚽

🏭

[primal obsidian]

all my trains are in deadlock

i think tahts waht its called

🙁

[open swallow]

yep, that's the general word for that

[golden nexus]

skill issue 😛

[unkempt blade]

why are they sad?

[golden nexus]

all your signals are in wrong places