satisfactory

[reef basin]

things that need (consume) them

in certain definition of "good" 😛

[ocean frost]

Power efficient, resource efficient

[bitter lodge]

Normal rotor will cost you 112.5 iron ore for 10/min
steel rotor will cost you
5.679 water
11 iron ore
18.75 coal
for 10/min

[unkempt blade]

I want a bonus mode where my conveyors are given a random value for that save within a range when I unlock them. Like mk1 could be somewhere between 45 and 75

[bitter lodge]

steel rotor....a lot cheaper.

[reef basin]

normal rotor with steel screws will cost you less steel

[fallow magnet]

How come you had to run up and down hill,

[reef basin]

also how does only steel rotor need water?

I'm pretty sure you added more alts there to make it cheaper

[bitter lodge]

normal rotor with steel screws will cost you
19 coal
69 iron ore.
still more expensive.

[unkempt blade]

It was the olden days. Times were hard and we hadn't invented level ground yet

[reef basin]

how does steel rotor cost you water?

[bitter lodge]

ya it used refinery recipe.

[hard ivy]

Iron only, steel rotor is actually more expensive. Default rotor costs 11.25 iron ingots each, steel rotor (with iron wire and iron pipe) costs 11.(3). That's a whole 0.7% more

[reef basin]

and why not use it for the normal rotor as well? gotta make the comparison fair

[bitter lodge]

but fixing it.
10 iron ore.
2.5 copper
18.75 coal.
still cheaper.

[grim carbon]

there is something i don't understand

[bitter lodge]

[grim carbon]

how am i supposed to use coal if it's so far from my base?

[bitter lodge]

so which alt recipes are we allowing and which are we not!?

[reef basin]

well, that depends on your valuation of copper vs iron

[fallow magnet]

Oh dang so like you needed two different conveyers ?

[languid marlin]

Move the coal into your base, or build at the coal

[white dawn]

Welcome to the first of many nudges the game will be giving you to encourage you to expand and build outposts, instead of centralizing. :)

[unkempt blade]

factory carts

[bitter lodge]

honestly. At the end of the day. We can debate this all we want, but at the same time. Your world, your chaos type of thing.

[reef basin]

that's the problem of comparing recipes, you cannot compare just two recipes, you need to compare whole chains 🙂

[meager kiln]

can someone explain blueprint auto connect to me? just saw a clip where someone did 2 rails on a platform, then dropped one, then move to build mode blueprint (auto-connect), but when i do that, i cant seem to build the second rail platform and ahve them connect

[grim carbon]

i don't know what they are

[white dawn]

My advice is to try and not think of even having a "main base" of any sort

[bitter lodge]

plus my val match just qued, so ima step away anyway.

[white dawn]

Like maybe you've got somewhere where you like keeping your HUB, but the expansion mindset is a lot of fun (and is one way of dealing with the "this resource is way over there" problem)

[bitter lodge]

There is a method of making factories stand alone

I forget the actual name ._.

[hard ivy]

Independency

[bitter lodge]

but its like your factories don't rely on each other to produce resources.

[tropic bear]

how do you change the dismantle tool out of blueprint mode

[bitter lodge]

and if you need to transport something "far" belt highways are most common. which youtube has plenty of tutorials on what those are.

[bitter lodge]

R

[tropic bear]

thx

[glass pagoda]

Hello greeny

[bitter lodge]

wait that may not be right, my keybinds are kind of weird.

[ocean frost]

Using Steel rotor you can make stator and then motors

[white dawn]

(You can also expand outwards even without doing Independency, of course. And you could technically do Independency but still keep all your factories right near each other. Independency doesn't necessarily require expansion; it's more about just keeping the isolation between products, for ease of building + logistics and such)

[ocean frost]

its a nicer production process

[unkempt blade]

or vehicles if you enjoy fun things

[white dawn]

Though I admit that Independency + expansion do nearly always go hand in hand. :D

[wicked nacelle]

like stabbing yourself in the eye over and over and over

[reef basin]

yeah, but personally I don't see the value of having same resources, since I have "same resources" anyway - iron, coal, copper

how I process them doesn't matter to me much

[bitter lodge]

I tried trucks one and they kept smacking me ._.

[grim carbon]

when i try to find caterium ore, every node is on top of a mountain and i can't fly yet

[bitter lodge]

so I just do belt highways until trains and ima learn trains finally.

[wicked nacelle]

they're awful. all the vehicles are awful unless you spend WAY more time setting up infrastructure for them than trains take - and trains are still better

[bitter lodge]

nothing says you can't build ramps or just ladder up

[glass pagoda]

There is one in the northern forest next to my base its near the cliff of the great cannon

[strong fiber]

Are bolted iron plates good?

[hard ivy]

... build a ramp up?

[bitter lodge]

but they look so goooooddddd

[grim carbon]

i don't have ramps that'll go up 1,000 feet or so

[silk ocean]

Trains are the way xD

[unkempt blade]

the route recorder does need some love but it's not too rough to use 😄

[reef basin]

most things have ladders on them

[wicked nacelle]

they're fine. There are lots of options for reinforced plate and they're all really close to each other so use whichever one you want

[glass pagoda]

Bio coal is the best alt recipe guys it's tuff

[glad quest]

is that the one that needs like 390 screws pm or some bs

[reef basin]

that depends on your definition of good

they cost more compared to default recipe, but are faster

[bitter lodge]

compared to normal...no.

You dump more screws for less output

[reef basin]

but for faster output

[bitter lodge]

ya higher output per min, but you can just do another assembler at that point

[reef basin]

that's more power 😛

[wicked nacelle]

you get much more rate per machine. and not much more screws. It's just a tradeoff and not drastically different

[bitter lodge]

if you prefer that route go for it

[glass pagoda]

Alt recipes are more efficient then that 😛

[unkempt blade]

yeah but power doesn't have a resource cost for me because I just put a bunch of factory carts on giant hamster wheels

[glad quest]

i wish that was possible

[grim carbon]

do tractors burn a lot of fuel?

[glad quest]

yes

[hasty cairn]

Yes.

[bitter lodge]

I think they say their burn rate on fuel?

[reef basin]

not much tbh

[hasty cairn]

But, when you compare that with their INSANE load capacity, the fuel usage rate is actually not that much.

[glass pagoda]

Use parachute from big latter to reach any place in map 🤠

[hasty cairn]

A single trip holds, what, twenty-seven FULL stacks?

[unkempt blade]

not really, the wiki has a table with fuel consumption for different fuel types if you're interested

[grim carbon]

i ain't got parachutes

[bitter lodge]

make sure you buffer input/output with storage

[glass pagoda]

Try flapping ur wings

[grim carbon]

what is big latter?

[bitter lodge]

big ladder

[grim carbon]

I an't got wings either

[glass pagoda]

Ladder i have dyslexia

[hasty cairn]

When a truck station has two inputs, even with that, it's not always likely to completely fill up enough to load a tractor before that tractor comes back. If it's just taking partial loads you are not using full fuel efficiency

[grim carbon]

oh, sorry

[glass pagoda]

Flap ur arms

[strong fiber]

i got wet concrete and molded beams if i had ti choose one which one is better

[glass pagoda]

It's all good man

[grim carbon]

i don't know the hotkey for that

[glass pagoda]

Biocoal

[strong fiber]

Balright

[bitter lodge]

either one than throw another harddrive in

[glad quest]

i like molded beams

[bitter lodge]

or let them sit there until you need either recipe

[glad quest]

wet concrete is meh imo

[unkempt blade]

this is one of many reasons why factory carts are the best vehicle

[strong fiber]

thats what imma do

[hard ivy]

It's free concrete

[strong fiber]

I dont have refineries yet tho

[glass pagoda]

Wet concrete smells

[glad quest]

yeah but u have to use refineries (i dont like em)

[reef basin]

you can't compare two recipes like that

how "good" a recipe is depends mostly on your preferences, and also a lot on recipe combinations, single recipe practically never brings you things directly

[hard ivy]

And molded beam is even more meh. Why are you even making beams

[bitter lodge]

great for dumping excess water

[bitter lodge]

belts!

mk3 takes steel beams right?

[strong fiber]

wouldn’t both these alts work well together

[glad quest]

for screws

[glass pagoda]

Dude I just use the toilet like a normal person whats wrong with you

[bitter lodge]

I tried :< but my pipe didn't fit in the hub

[strong fiber]

When do i get refineries bruh

[glass pagoda]

Bro is not going back home

[hard ivy]

Yes but for how long are you gonna use mk3s
Plus you don't need many beams for that

[meager kiln]

omg i just figured out auto connect, this changes everything

[glad quest]

yeah i wanna do a playthrough where i use as many screws as possible

[glass pagoda]

I'd rather use bio coal

[strong fiber]

Why u love biocoal

[bitter lodge]

until I get mk4 :>

[strong fiber]

its ahh 💔

[glass pagoda]

Ik that's the point

[glad quest]

u just recycle them into encased beams

[hard ivy]

Encased pipe is just straight up better. Plus iron pipe can make it coalless

[strong fiber]

I went and did hardrive sites and got electromagnetic control rods should i sink those

[languid marlin]

Just make like 15/min beams and use pipes for everything else

[glad quest]

but i can get coal

[bitter lodge]

fuck yes.

[glass pagoda]

Take a bite

[languid marlin]

Steel rotor, stators, encased pipe

[bitter lodge]

I sink all that crazy end game stuff. I want so many pretty awesomeshop stuff

[unkempt blade]

I intentionally use slower conveyor belts for stuff when it won't cause a slowdown. It looks nicer at those speeds

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's way easier to just use coal -- but encased pipe is a huge upgrade

[glad quest]

tho there is a certian aura of seeing things whizz past on mk5 (mk6 isnt as auraful)

[languid marlin]

Nobody talks bad about my steel rotors

[hard ivy]

Then use default steel pipe. Or molded pipe. Still better than default EIBs

[glass pagoda]

Not all endgame stuff is good to sink ya know. If you have a bunch of lizard doggos you can greatly benefit

[unkempt blade]

yeah I just don't like every little nub of conveyor going into a constructor or something to be a blur

[hard ivy]

S tier recipe imo

[strong fiber]

Turbo motors dint use anything mam related right

[glad quest]

if its going past somewhere u walk alot i like it as it makes the place seem busy

[languid marlin]

More convenient than basic recipe and easy motors

[unkempt blade]

I overuse vehicles because it gives me the same kind of feeling

[grim carbon]

is it so that you can see the space platform from anywhere you travel, or at least the part that's in space?

[hard ivy]

It can use both quartz and caterium depending on recipes

Actually, I think it always uses quartz

[glad quest]

i heavily overuse trains atp that i had like 10 or so different trainstation at my base

[strong fiber]

i didn’t explain it good enough i meant turbo motors arent used in the mam correct mb

[bitter lodge]

while my poor ass in in phase 2, I am sinking everything

I need all the tickets. I need to unlock everything.

[ocean frost]

next to Heavy Encased Frame

[strong fiber]

Same bru

[languid marlin]

Also s teir recipe

You've all seen that Reddit post

[ocean frost]

i have not

[hard ivy]

Nah, that's SSS

[hard ivy]

Keep it that way

[unkempt blade]

blueprints are also good for building your own landmarks #screenshots message

[strong fiber]

I got biocoal lets gooooo

[languid marlin]

How come? Are some things tanked wrongly?

[bitter lodge]

link it please

or dm it.

[strong fiber]

Rescanned and got automated miner and bio coal LETS GOOOO

[hard ivy]

The methodology is very questionable

[languid marlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1ff515j/alternate_recipe_ranking_10_optimizing_for/

[grim carbon]

i don't have the smarts for that!

[dim flint]

Do drones only fuel from their source port, or either?

I assume only source.

[languid marlin]

Yeah, I get that since a lot of recipes are pretty case specific

[hard ivy]

They need some fuel in their home port to take off for the first time but after that they can refuel at either

[dim flint]

Ah, and they'll fuel to max, so they can make the trip then... interesting.

So manually fueling the first trip is viable?

[strong fiber]

Should i combine stitched iron plates and iron wire??

[bitter lodge]

automated miner is goated. make the miners and depot them into dim storage. its heaven never having to hand craft miners again

[ocean frost]

I wonder is anyone has used the Compacted Steel Ingot

[strong fiber]

I already did the thing to get a new rescan

[bitter lodge]

all the time

[languid marlin]

There's so many recipes that I doubt anyone has used more than once

Why would you make leached copper ingots?

[strong fiber]

Cuz they like em leached

obviously?

[bitter lodge]

Nope.

I use pure copper.

[languid marlin]

It makes more too

[dim flint]

Isn't leached more energy efficient or am I misrememebering.

[bitter lodge]

water is a lot easier to get.

[strong fiber]

water literally free except megawatt useage

[bitter lodge]

some recipes will be used based on a different factor....its called laziness

am I willing to fetch something or make extra machines? maybe.

[ocean frost]

you need like 1/3 the Refinery

[languid marlin]

Except shipping large amounts of sulfur is not a lazy thing to do

[strong fiber]

And its free copper

[bitter lodge]

I prefer pure recipes for alum
cater
copper
iron
quartz.

[languid marlin]

Pure copper does take a lot of refineries

[bitter lodge]

I like refineries and water c:

[dense violet]

alloys alloys alloys ALLOYS 😛

[bitter lodge]

Alloys could be fun to mess with

but I plan to make a pure iron factory and pure copper factory.

[sullen gull]

Only like 42 something like that. Everything overclocked from a 1200 node that is.

[dense violet]

copper alloy and iron alloy 😄
so many fewer refineries xD and machines

mix and match!

[strong fiber]

call it “The smeltery”

[limpid inlet]

Biocoal is so tuff

Dude why does it even exist

[bitter lodge]

LMAO

[sullen gull]

Real pioneer here 🤣

[bitter lodge]

Idk about names yet. but maybe I will.

[dense violet]

turn pigs into uranium rods

or, more realistically, have temp ammo factory that runs off animal parts you bring back after a trip to get more bullets and bombs

[bitter lodge]

this is why we love satisfactory

cause there is no streamline process

[strong fiber]

At that point just make an automatic one for the same amount of time it takes to hunt animals

[dense violet]

nah, depending on the process it means at least cutting out coal for hte ammo, simplifying things, at most, you just have a bit of SAM ore + animal parts and you get bullets

these are all just options ofc 🙂 thats the point of alt recipes

[ocean frost]

would biofuel be better

[limpid inlet]

Biofuel is so ass

[bitter lodge]

biofuel is annoying cause it can't be fully automated

[limpid inlet]

using an alt recipe for Biocoal unironically should be punished by ADA dropping a nuke on you

[languid marlin]

I heard something about how you can use the polyester fabric alt to automate fabric and use that as fuel for biofuel

But no that was bullshit and biofuels ass

[glad wraith]

I didn't think you could use fabric in replacement for biofuel

[cunning lily]

Biofuel is best jetpack fuel. And proteins make absurd amounts of biomass, for discretionary use cases.

[sullen gull]

*liquid biofuel... with ionized being the next best 🙂

[languid marlin]

That's cause you can't, it made sense for a second until I realized it's untrue

[grim carbon]

what other things besides the hub and the space platform can i use as markers?

i just realised i can use tractors, but what else beside that too?

[sullen gull]

Markers? On the map?

[grim carbon]

no not on the map, just to relocate stuff without having to use the scanner every time

[sullen gull]

Oh. Sorry, dont understand the concept of "relocation" as I look at the whole map as my oyster.

[compact flicker]

I'd.. Like to disagree

[dry carbon]

why this server have no vc

[sullen gull]

Liquid bio and ionized are the two with the longest burn rate. Everything else is slow or lasts for.like 5 seconds.

[leaden turret]

moderation

[dry carbon]

bruh really

[sullen gull]

You want to moderate a public VC for a game where many have wildly different viewpoints on how the game should work or should be played?

[dry carbon]

idk why not

[leaden turret]

feel free to provide multi-lingual 24/7 coverage

[dry carbon]

oh right

[sullen gull]

That too

[dry carbon]

nvm

[leaden turret]

people can't be trusted to behave in text channels, what do you think would happen if they didn't have the delay between having an idiotic thought and typing it out?

[compact flicker]

Depends on how you rank them

Sure liquid bio is easy and lasts a while, but I'll use turbofuel over it any day. And ionized needs power shards, which is quite expensive.

I'd personally put rocket fuel in the #1 spot

[dry carbon]

mb

[leaden turret]

they've even tried enabling embeds in main channel a few times, people couldn't be trusted with that 😅

[flint grail]

Where is the status light on the particle accelerator?

[sullen gull]

Power shards can be automated easily enough.

[fallow magnet]

Guys which should I pick of these? Should I reroll any?

[dry carbon]

oh i have a hard drive i forgot about

[limpid inlet]

Bro bring back embeds

[fallow magnet]

#screenshots message

sorry here’s the picture

I already have cast iron screws and iron wire btw and wood charcoal and stitched iron plate

[sullen gull]

But, either way, I just buy ionized from the shop 😏

[limpid inlet]

cast iron screws AND stitched Iron Plate

[dry carbon]

also the candycane basher is my new favorite weapon

[limpid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

[fallow magnet]

yee i got the screws first then third that stitched one, the other option was really dumb I forgot but it seemed pretty good to have option or it

[leaden turret]

don't forget the explosive snowballs

[limpid inlet]

stitched is goated

[dry carbon]

also after 2hrs of looking i found a node of sam and only after did i realise that i could look up cords

[fallow magnet]

Explosive snowballs? Bruhh I need that I should do the event lol

Also did day 5 have a reward cause I opened it but it had nothing

[fallow magnet]

Yee it seemed good

My first was iron wire I was quite excited about that one

what should I pick or should I reroll for the ones I sent by the way?

These ones #screenshots message

[dry carbon]

i hate myself sometimes because i dont look things up when i should

[limpid inlet]

they all look neat so I wouldnt know

[sullen gull]

First step is admitting 😏

[limpid inlet]

I don't think the fused quartz is good

Coal is too useful for that

[dry carbon]

is it bad i only just found sam and my world is 35hrs old

[fallow magnet]

I will say I have some quartz right next to my coal veins and a spare coal too that I’m not using

[gentle lion]

So if I unlocked turbo fuel should I just go ahead and make.a turbo fuel based generators before It gets any bigger

[fallow magnet]

I just found. One too in this ravine thing while exploring

[dry carbon]

cool

i also found a glitch with the parachute

[leaden turret]

it going uphill both ways is intentional

[compact flicker]

Sliding up slopes is cool :3

[dry carbon]

it is?

[leaden turret]

intentional glitch

[dry carbon]

really? huh

[leaden turret]

May 14th, 2024 Livestream
Q&A: Was the ability to Parachute climb up cliffs a deliberate feature?
https://youtu.be/WY38ztFj1t4

one of our producers have fought very strongly to make sure that it stays in the game okay like, so I don't think that would get removed, because he's very adamant that it's just stay in the game and and who are we to deny him it's one less bug we have to look into fixing so, yeah less work yes please

[sullen gull]

Like riding currants

[compact flicker]

I imagine its treated the same way hoiks are treated in Terraria

Not initially intentional, but the devs are cool with it existing

[dry carbon]

cool

[fallow magnet]

Hey do you know what I should pick here

#screenshots message

I have rerolls for two of them by the way

Im about to make steel factory to unlock toer 4 stuff by the way have a coal power plant

[leaden turret]

don't really have an opinion other than steel rods being a bit "meh" and automated portable miners only being useful if you're being especially weird with manual mining or building a lot of drones

[sullen gull]

If you don't need it now then leave it in the list

[fallow magnet]

Oki thanks

[dry carbon]

the only thing my doggo finds is bombs...

[fallow magnet]

Is that quartz one good or the silica one good? Cause I found two quartz nodes I think they’re pure too and it’s near coal where I have an extra node of coal

[dry carbon]

im not kidding

[sullen gull]

Driving so can't look 😏

But all alts a good in their own way. Depends on preference and play style. There are enough drives for all alts

[compact flicker]

Found a way to get infinite wire length

*between power poles

[sullen gull]

Hax! 😏

[compact flicker]

If you go to replace a connected power pole you can infinitely nudge it and the wire will stay connected

Might be nice for ziplining

lbf?

what

[charred thistle]

I have returned

[compact flicker]

Floob!

[sullen gull]

Ziplining has more forwards momentum than lbf I'd think

[compact flicker]

I prefer turbo/rocket fuel for that :3

[charred thistle]

haiii :3

i just realized im over 2k m away from my HUB 😭😭😭

[compact flicker]

Turbofuel is available in the same phase as the jetpack

I need to hear the reasoning for that

[sullen gull]

Lbf>all except ionized

[sullen gull]

Burn time. Done

[compact flicker]

All that burn time is gonna give you .2 meters of lift

[sullen gull]

Yeah/no. Slower for sure, but way more than 2m

Let's talk about the tortoise and the hare.... 😏

[exotic swift]

so uhm, im fairly new, and uh, i aquired my first chainsasw, how do i power it?

[exotic swift]

i mean, how do i put the biofuel in it

[charred thistle]

i got the blade runners unlocked :3

[exotic swift]

oh, thanks sobsob

[charred thistle]

woof

i started zooming and fell off the map :C

[brazen coral]

Quick question for anyone... Is there a mk 2 water pump?

[white dawn]

Nope, just overclocking

[brazen coral]

Okay, so it takes 1 and 1/2 overclocked water pumps to match one overclocked aluminum refinery? XD

Basic recipe

Says it consumes 450 cubic meters after overclocking

So I guess I can split water between the refineries. But even then I'll try and look for the alternate recipe, I almost got the blender working

Just need aluminum to actually make the blender

I can underclock it a little bit to 300 I guess. So each one only goes up to one pump

Silica is a byproduct

But yes, you need that to make the ingot which you get from refining

Doing 10 refineries each one for processing the bauxite one for refining the solution

Until I can get the alternate

Yes, it is

Game is all relatively new to me, but I've wanted to play it since it's been on PC. I just didn't have a PC to actually run the graphics

[sacred trail]

I just saw two creatures fighting. I have 300 hours in the game and that's the first time. Is it common?

[brazen coral]

Spiders will attack basically anything so yes

I've seen them beat the spitters

[gentle lion]

I turn on peaceful creatures when they keep killing me in the same spot if that makes me.a weenie so.be it.

Also those giant spiders are f ing creepy

[frozen zealot]

Hey I know people might ask it a lot, but is there a fully optimized setup for all the resources floating around?

[magic nest]

so just so i’m on the same page i use the turbo blend alt for a rocket fuel factory

[gentle lion]

I found a spot with the green gas things and outta nowhere one of those big ass spiders just killed me. It also looked greenish

[zenith pecan]

I went with nitro rocket, I was never fond of turbo blend for anything other than small scale production for ammo.

[magic nest]

nitro rocket?

[zenith pecan]

The alt listed here https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Rocket_Fuel

A lot won't work due to recipe changes.

I guess, just seeing everything choke out will suck, the chanegs are why I shut down factories in my old save and archived it all.

[magic nest]

hmmmmmm

[zenith pecan]

I have so much to rebuild before I release that.

[magic nest]

still haven’t unlocked nitro fuel

sighhhh

back to looking for hard drives i go

i do not

[sour ledge]

i wish i could get beams to curve like belts... just set 'curve' and start and end point and it'll do a perfect curve for my 90 degree turn

[zenith pecan]

You can make our own tunnels you know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9T_ZlDv68

[silk ocean]

Trains are the future

[zenith pecan]

Sounds like an update for the bedroom rather than a game.

I only ever had one successful train, my timings with them have always been terrible.

[silk ocean]

Oh... xD

I think I have about 80 operational on the global rail network

They're not so bad when you get the hang of signaling

I just built that line a bit out over the water and around the side

[gentle lion]

Oof to make turbo fuel I gotta make some long conveyors ...

Coal and sulfur nowhere close

[silk ocean]

There is a very long tunnel that runs east-west

Built through that too xD

[zenith pecan]

Here's one tunnel #screenshots message

[silk ocean]

Oh it's an actual tunnel system on the map, there are a few long ones in fact, designed basically to be wide enough to run double rail

Like a cave network, just large

Just plenty of spiders

They got the 2nd option - nukes xD

Nuke is the humane option... they never would have felt a thing xD

[zenith pecan]

Nuking the spiders after conveyor lift shaft deployment ftw! #design-and-architecture message

Or nuclear device spam for simple flora cleanup in the swamp #screenshots message

[whole drum]

The best cure for arachnophobia is pyromania.

[zenith pecan]

Already?, my save is like a year old, going into its second ficsmas and I have levelled a lot of old stuff for a cool rebuild.

I had to remake my light array blueprints due to a mistake that cost me some data, but I can once again make these things #design-and-architecture message

[narrow canyon]

Is 1000 pasta supposed to be hard to get? O0

[zenith pecan]

That set of 21 blueprints does come in handy for doing lighting (lumen needed)

[safe dome]

No

Its all good tbh

You dont have to speedrun, just enjoy making factories and it will come itself xd

🙁

I have like 10 saves and 1 megafactory xd

Its way too stereotype tbh xd

I have 10 saves with 10 another people, singleplayers on repeat is boring for me, so i have on SP only megafactory xd

Where r u from that u texting in this time btw?

Gas energy speedrun

Nazdar ne, reknu hned

[teal geyser]

Do the little trinkets on the MAM not show up until you complete a research tree?

[safe dome]

Wdym trinkets

Ah ye

[teal geyser]

Little nicks and nacks show up on and around the MAM

[safe dome]

Yesyes

[teal geyser]

Like a quartz crystal

[safe dome]

Yuh u need to unlock it first in research tree

[last tartan]

ohh that sounds like a cool feature

im going to get my MAM back

[teal geyser]

But then I heard that if you delete that specific MAM, the trinkets don't show back up when you rebuild

No, since 1.0 I believe. Vanilla items

[strong fiber]

I went from 16 coal burners to 32

[teal geyser]

#screenshots message I found the wiki article about the MAM thing I was talking about. The trinkets only show up upon completion of the research tress

[strong fiber]

Would it be possible to make 10/ smartplate min 5 versatile framework/min and 5 automatic wiring a minute with 1000 mws

[zealous urchin]

this sounded like a khajiti fron skyrim

[strong fiber]

😭

i mean theres a chance

[last tartan]

bummed to say ive already researched all of these and moved my MAM, would love to see these fun little qualities

[strong fiber]

How many steel ingots should i make because i have absolutely no idea how much steel anything takes

I fixed my power issue so we should be good

[teal geyser]

Yea, I have 2 trees completed but I must have not had my main MAM in place yet. I feel so robbed

[strong fiber]

whats more important pipes or beams

[zealous urchin]

u mean u are more into building that aluminuminimum factory rn right

[last tartan]

time to restart the whole game

[teal geyser]

M'aiq The Liar?

[strong fiber]

not me bru

I will build it wrong

[zealous urchin]

this is what a khajiti would do

[zealous urchin]

the cap is colovian fur 🗣️ 📢🔥

[strong fiber]

Should i consider using the molded alternates?

[teal geyser]

Steel Beams for building/mk3 belts

Steel Pipes for Nobelisks and other recipes

[strong fiber]

i have molded beams and pipes ready to unlock i just dont know if i should use em

[zealous urchin]

imo 200-240 steel ingots for the beninging and then some is fair

[strong fiber]

Is encased industrial pipe good

[zealous urchin]

not a fan of it unless u are willing to do wet concrete

[strong fiber]

ion even got refineries im still in phase 1

[zealous urchin]

mhm

[last tartan]

we should get satisfactory agriculture

[zealous urchin]

i wonder if i could understand czech

[last tartan]

we can grow like beryl nuts and stuff

[strong fiber]

arent cast screws ahh

[last tartan]

it would be so cool to have like an orchard of a sort

[last tartan]

avoid screws in general but if i recall right that recipe isnt awful

[strong fiber]

wait only 50 iron for 200 screws dang

[strong fiber]

Ive been looking for alternatives for screws

well its 12.5/min for 50 screws

[last tartan]

What do you use them for

[strong fiber]

Im using most of the default recipes rn

[teal geyser]

Iron Ingots into Screws instead of Ingot = Rod = Screws

I've never used Steel Screws before though

[last tartan]

Generally speaking, get stitched iron plates and steel rotors later on to totally avoid screws

They are kind of a waste

[sullen gull]

Alu beams + steel screws = ❤️

[strong fiber]

Wait so should i get stitched iron plates alternate its in my mam rn

[last tartan]

I use it it’s kinda goated

[zealous urchin]

it is

[strong fiber]

Should i mix it with iron wire

would that be fire

[zealous urchin]

maybe

[glad wraith]

I think it's really good just the fact thought that there aren't as many copper nodes as iron nodes though

[last tartan]

Pretty sure that’s what I do ngl

[strong fiber]

When i need iron plates i will use those recipes instead

[glad wraith]

👍

[strong fiber]

yoo its u

[sullen gull]

Nosir Out having a drinkipoo 🤣

[strong fiber]

Im making 2200 megawatts of coal power now so thats good

[sullen gull]

I didnt do it

[strong fiber]

i got steel rotors beo les gooo

[compact flicker]

Neither of the storage containers touch the ground when placed on foundations

[strong fiber]

wdym

[sullen gull]

Unplayable. Should uninstall right now...

[compact flicker]

They just float 😭 😭

[sullen gull]

I've heard stories and drank with a czechian in Amsterdam 🤣

[sullen gull]

Lol idk you said "its me" lol

[safe dome]

Czechians r good 🙂

[zealous urchin]

czech dark beer lowkey good

[safe dome]

Come and drink a beer with us

[sullen gull]

Luuuurv me some dark beers! 😏

[zealous urchin]

im a bit afraid bcs every couple of months czech railways have an accident when two trains crash into each other on the same rail
i dont wanna be on that train

[sullen gull]

Nah mate, darker the better for me.

[safe dome]

Ye, sometimes happens 😊

But no worries

[zealous urchin]

i heard Maxeek is turning his aluminimum factory into alumaximum conglomerate

[safe dome]

Xddddd

[safe dome]

Where r u from? Espana?

[zealous urchin]

no

its just for the show

[last tartan]

why do we not have any better lighting? its only the huge bars

i only wanted one single bar that would fit under this shelf i designed and now im bummed

[sullen gull]

You can attempt to use signs for lighting as well..

[last tartan]

i thought about that. can i angle them down though?

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/saturday-night-live-snl-justin-timberlake-oh-stop-it-stop-it-gif-4997163

[sullen gull]

Use temp beams to angle them

[safe dome]

Definitely use signs with 100% glossiness

[last tartan]

yeah thats what i was thinking, but idk if i could get a sign to face downwards

nvm

i hold left ctrl it works

[sullen gull]

Again, signs will snap to the side of a beam, and you can slave beams almost any witch way. With a bit of work in vanilla

[hard stump]

With the ability for trains to drive themself. I saw a vid saying any more then 4 freight cars messed with acceleration and breaking does that mean with more cars I run the risk of them not stopping on time in self drive mode? I’m fine with that just asking. I’d love to be able to build a circuit where trains share the track.
Just trying to figure out if it was just saying it. For us players driving or what

[last tartan]

i dont need sleep, i need to factory

[dense violet]

if you go up ramps you probably need 1 engine per 4 cars. That's about it really

[sullen gull]

They should always stop in time, but may take longer to reach acceleration

[sullen gull]

This is the way.

[dense violet]

so for example if you have 5 cars, you probably 2 engines if you have 2m ramps on your rail

trains will however always stop at stations even going their fastest down a hill

[hard stump]

Oh ok. Thank yall both. Sorry I’m very stupid when it comes to this game. But saw a video about that. N was just like I wonder if it’s cuz if ai is driving and it tells the train to stop may not in time be kinda funny.
But I’m fine with this cuz it just gave me another excuse why I’m using 2 trains for the project 🙂

[sullen gull]

Never be sorry mate, I'm sure the curve of learning is different for everyone

[hard stump]

Didn’t know I could attach 2 engines to 1 train interesting

[dense violet]

yup! cars have weight and more weight with cargo so if you're going uphill with too much weight 1 engine might not cut it

the dumb no brain move is just 1 engine per 4 cars and you should never have an issue with weight

[hard stump]

I’m prob just gonna go with that many cuz it gives me an excuse to run 2. As people recommended per item 1 freight car rather then all in 1
Maybe one day I’ll go bigger for fun when I’m less dumb 🤣

[dense violet]

most people probably do this 🙂

you can mix freight cars, it's not super hard. Just need a sorter and sink at the delivery point

[night summit]

What are good items to sink for coupons? Im phase 2

[dense violet]

whatever you're making extra

[bitter lodge]

so for ficmas mam research...we can't do number 7 yet?

[dense violet]

alternatively if you want to dedicate time and effort to it, look at the wiki for points per item

[sullen gull]

Pretty sure the days are governed by your local time.

[charred thistle]

so i screwed up i spent like 10 minutes running new copper and iron veins into constructors but i forgor the smelters near the miners

[bitter lodge]

so you are locked behind the date.

That makes sense, I was being greedy for the day 8 to research higher tree lmao

[hard stump]

In a way I wouldn’t mind doing that but I do kinda want an excuse for longer trains plus. I plan on doing it where it’s just a pick up drop off thing. So at the destination smart splitter etc cuz idk why I love merging things onto 1 belt them watching it all get sorted. Still super new and hard to find educated console players who are willing to be on for hours to help

[dense violet]

sure if you like 🙂 just be aware as you get more and more trains in your world you might start hating just how fraking huge train stations are. They take up a LOT of space

when I get back into the game I think I'll be using a modular stations mod to compress them a lot

[grim carbon]

do ore nodes ever run out?

[open swallow]

No

[grim carbon]

awesome

[hard stump]

Yeah I built one just to get the feel for the look how I’m gonna try to implement etc.
I played years ago on pc and we never got to do trains so it’s just in my head one way or another I’m doing it even if it looks bad and is stupid

[silk ocean]

You'd kinda need an infinite sized map like Factorio for limited resource nodes

Otherwise the game would somewhat grind to a halt xD

xD

tbh I play Factorio with Infinite Resources mod, can never be bothered for things running out

[sullen gull]

I still keep searching for any cool landscape feature easter eggs she may have worked in :p

[silk ocean]

Been a while since I played Factorio

Yea that is good

Yea similar

Mine?

Like yours too haha

Dates way back to World of Warcraft, was a randomly generated one and I just kinda stuck with it xD

Oh, nice xD

That's a blast from the past

Played WoW for about 12 years

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1447105602797961308 i love building racks like this

im a no lifer at war thunder

[silk ocean]

Maybe RL is the no life and gaming is the life XD

Haha it made me aware of it but it was the corrupted disease event that made the news where everybody was running around cities infecting others xD

A bug where you could take the debuff into a city

Then run into like the auction house, everybody got infected, people dying everywhere

Basically you could get infected out in the world from a mob, the debuff should have been removed when you went near a city... but nope xD

(vaguely like that anyways, it was a long time ago)

Know of from chat

Nice

Yeah how old now must be around 25 years

I've lost track, I stopped maybe 8 years ago now

For sure xD

I always say I might play again sometime

Where to xD

Dalaran ?

Hmm xD

Not sure about my future yet will have to get back to you on that xD

boss level Wizard

Is anyone even awake xD

[night summit]

Whats better jetpack fuel? Turbofuel or liquid biofuel

[silk ocean]

Prob best go back to sf chat lol

I think biofuel (or ionised) has the best endurance, turbofuel/rocketfuel has like the best "kick"

Ha, thanks, guess I got lucky with that RNG name generator

It's a good one yea

[silk ocean]

Also when flying blipping it rather than holding it gives you much more endurance

Nope xD

Might get one later in life

I like them but a bit allergic

They say you get used to it tho

Can't really "rent a cat" to find out xD

sorry to hear

had bad hayfever most of my life too

You too dude

[sullen gull]

Only allergic to spaghetti! 😏

The spaghetti?

Lol, sure, why not.

But about to drive so can't take part in the banter 😏

Lol, no need to jinx me

Can always forgive

[sullen gull]

nevah!

Oh, fallout, yeah, wasn't "my thing"

[last tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1447124104238071969 am i cooking on this factory?

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1444862844553134222 this was my last build for reference (not an ideal image, sorry)

i ought to call it a night, i am tired

[charred thistle]

I found a drop pod but it says it needs 40mw to open do i just pop down a bio generator?

it worked

[tacit canyon]

Whats the best way to move items across the map, I have 50 RCU/min and need to ship to where i make nuclear pasta. Im wondering what the best/efficenet way to do it

[silk ocean]

Trains

or I guess use a drone for that amount

[sterile blade]

But sushi is bestest

[ivory condor]

Little do you know of the sushi mews 🍣

[split condor]

So new guy here been playing I have about 50 hours and would like some advice. I h e set up a remote steel factory. I will be using the alt iron ingot / coal recipe. So do I make the steel ingots and transport them to main factory for further use or, make the pipes and beams at remote factory and move them to main factory ?

[sterile blade]

A Suspicious Aura-Pickle Farmer approaches

[strong fiber]

I automated 40 steel pipes/min 30 steel beams/min and 12 encased industrial beam/min will that be fine to use for my inventory

wha

[sterile blade]

Everything comes with pros and cons, just depends on how you like them...

• Import Steel Ingots? Can freely decide how to use them, but need to travel to change/fix steel production and will make the main factory bigger
• Import stuff made with Ingots? Can use it without expanding the main factory, but need to travel to change anything about how the steel is used

[strong fiber]

Im only gonna start on a dedicated factory when i get into phase 2

For better resource availability cause i used up all the resources in my area

I can make mk2 miners tho

I have 24 hours

[sterile blade]

A MK2 miner is also called an "adult"

[ivory condor]

I guess that means MK3 miner is called a "obese adult"

[sterile blade]

I was thinking something more like "the granny"

[ivory condor]

Perfect

that actually is much better "the granny" it is

[grizzled lotus]

if I want a tractor to only pick up coal for fuel, I should build a truck station with no input to storage, only input to fuel, right?

[silk ocean]

That sounds plausible yea

[nocturne orbit]

it looks like it is indeed gone...
there's direct reflection, but no scattering

#screenshots message compare that to older screenshot

same GI>high and same brightness on the display

[ivory condor]

Lumen is all sorts of kinds of messed up now unfortunately

we have been talking about it for some time, yeah im not too hopeful its being looked into why lumen just isnt working the same as it used to with signs for some reason

even sign illumination has been drastically nerfed compared to when it was first implemented, now its far more muted than it was in the past, so signs illumination in general has more or less just gotten worse overall, even the non-lumen implementation has drastically become much more muted than it was in the past

kind of sad because i remember when signs first were given illumination, and the highest bright setting was incredibly bright, was pre- ue5 upgrade, and now, its just so dull overall by comparison compared to what it was in the past and that was pre-lumen, now both it and lumen in general at both worse now overall for some reason

[quartz dome]

Question:
Shouldnt it be possible that i can reload a save to get random hard drive scans?

[grizzled lotus]

I've done this with rescans

[quartz dome]

same that why i asked the question, because when i recal corectly they said after 9 came out that it is no longer possible, found just out i was lied to.

[grizzled lotus]

mind you there have been a couple of updates since I last did this

[quartz dome]

last time i was active exploiting satisfactory was in update 8, firts time in 1,5 years i am doing it again

[ivory condor]

the random rolled is locked in as soon as the scan is started, so assuming the reload is before the scanning is started, yes

[quartz dome]

no befor you rerol

[ivory condor]

right so assuming the reload is before the scan is made, they'll get different recipes from the scan again

[quartz dome]

downside is, your reroll is not depending on the other harddrive, meaning you can have doubles

[ivory condor]

if you have really bad luck you could even get the same recipes again

[hardy moat]

So what they fixed is the re-roll being pre-determined when you first scan it, now a re-roll picks after you hit re-roll

[hardy moat]

Never seen this

[ivory condor]

i dont remember it ever being pre-determined

[grizzled lotus]

I think you can encounter the same recipe twice, but if you leave a recipe without choosing it in the library, it wont spawn again

as far as I've heard

[hardy moat]

I've only seen YouTube videos about it

[hardy moat]

Yeah i was blocked from scanning harddrives cos I couldn't have any new recipes in the library

[grizzled lotus]

wow, how many did you have

[hardy moat]

All of em

[grizzled lotus]

lol

[hardy moat]

It's easier to notice with earlier phases cos there's less total alts

[quartz dome]

#screenshots message put an example hier

[twin helm]

Finally hit phase 3 after 60 hours

[quartz dome]

rooky numbers

[silk ocean]

What's the rush xD

[twin helm]

I felt like that was a lot more time than i shouldve been wdym rush😭

[fast finch]

where the heck do i find data cartridge day 8? i have no clue

[silk ocean]

I mean there is no rush

[hard ivy]

From the day 8 calendar box

[fast finch]

that means tomorrow?

[silk ocean]

I assume so? Seeing as tomorrow is the 8th?

[hard ivy]

It's whenever your system time says that it's the 8th of December

[fast finch]

oh ok, thank you

[silk ocean]

I disabled FICSMAS on the server 😈 #humbug

[fast finch]

i never did ficsmas and just restarted(for the 3rd time) a new playthrough

only once i finished the whole game.

[hybrid nymph]

I made a sacrifice, I got rid of six of my coal generators to have six fuel generators

It was worth it

[fast finch]

i dont know if you know, but if u get the alternate rocket fuel engine, go with that

[hybrid nymph]

I'm not going to get rid of my coal, I still need it back at base in case if the fuel generators go offline

[fast finch]

i almost never really needed nuclear power lol

[hybrid nymph]

I use turbo fuel

[hard ivy]

why would you remove the coal gens?

[fast finch]

yea, i think i was thinking of that, but it past pretty good time, i forgot exactly the name

[hard ivy]

turbofuel and rocket fuel are 2 different fuels

[hybrid nymph]

Because I need the compacted coal for my turbo fuel

And I don't have Mark 5 belts yet

I'm still in tier 6

Once I get Mark 5 belts I can do a lot of upgrading

[peak wasp]

So where do you guys talk about upcoming update rumours? Would this be in here or the story spoilers or another channel ?

[silk ocean]

Here I guess? There are plenty of spoilers in general xD

[peak wasp]

thanks , was curious as still kinda new here. I'm curious why no one has mentioned the Ad video with the time stamp a Mikael spoke about

[silk ocean]

Sundays are quiet at least atm

[sterile blade]

@ivory condor Did you perhaps disable notifications in #math-and-meta?

[hard ivy]

which timestamp?

[peak wasp]

the ad video came out 10 days ago on the coffee stain youtube and go to 00:38 @hard ivy

[rich tusk]

is there a reason why we cant just rename swatches? it would be pretty handy

[woeful warren]

Hello guys i just got the game any tips or tricks i need to know or just jump in the deep end?

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, I saw that

[peak wasp]

ore randomizing is what i saw in that clip

[hard ivy]

we're probably getting shuffled nodes mode in 1.2

[rich tusk]

only one off the top of my head is you should build bigger than you think you'll need but thats about it

[sterile blade]

Probably the kind of feature that didn't make it to the priority list yet... I don't think they're against that

[rich tusk]

pahaps

[silk ocean]

Prob been discussed at some point

[sterile blade]

Iirc, it has been mentioned and kind of confirmed during stream

[woeful warren]

Well thanks ill see what will happen

[ivory condor]

Idk but i didnt see it for some reason

[peak wasp]

yeah i got it was talked about on stream i was looking to see if we had a channel for it in here as i was curious about the other videos

[sterile blade]

Here is plenty fine, I think ^^
If you want more and you're lucky enough to be online during a stream, I think they temporarily open up a specific channel for that too (people there will probably be tuned to the kind of info you're looking for)

[prime bloom]

Hi everyone. I’m looking to get in touch with the developer of this project. I’m organizing a Steam festival and would like to discuss a possible participation. Please DM me if you’re the right contact. <@&370483737957236737>

[sterile blade]

(#math-and-meta message)

[ivory condor]

Yeah i didnt get notified at all, discord truly does hate me

[true mulch]

In case you don't get a reply, there's an email contact on the CSS website

[sterile blade]

Weird.
The @ seems correct

[ivory condor]

Its so strange because i have nothing muted either, discord is truly having a moment

[stiff grail]

guys what do i do if i fell to a cave a lot of meters down and i cant get my stuff bc of fall damage and the amount of spiders there

[peak wasp]

put it on peaceful 😄

[stiff grail]

i cant even drop down without dying though

is there any way to turn on flight just to get it ?

or js tp

[ivory condor]

@sterile blade I checked all the settings, yeah apparently discord is just deciding to ignore mentions all together now, so lord knows whats going to happen next

[peak wasp]

falling you need to figure that out but the spiders on peaceful, when i wanted to get down somewhere quite far i would try slide down the cliff as sometimes you dont take any damage

[severe cliff]

build down using vertical build mode

[ivory condor]

I honestly am just not going to try to understand wth is even happening with discord anymore, none of this makes any sense

[stiff grail]

am i able to turn it back afterwards?

[peak wasp]

yes

[stiff grail]

ok how

[peak wasp]

its a setting i forget what the name of it is

[severe cliff]

peaceful mode doesn’t count as advanced settings so u can turn it on/off whenever and still get trophy’s

[stiff grail]

what even is thropy?

[severe cliff]

in the options

[stiff grail]

ok i also turned on keep inv

[severe cliff]

achievements

[stiff grail]

creature hositlitty passive?

[ivory condor]

this still sounds dirty

[peak wasp]

ps trophies , xbox achievements if thats what you mean by that

[stiff grail]

ah im on pc so doesnt matter right

[ivory condor]

because your technically playing outside of the norms, aka creatures arent hostile

[stiff grail]

wait so where do i find it

[ivory condor]

so keeping trophs enabled, thats a little cheaty still but i guess the game allows it

[stiff grail]

like what is it called cause there isnt anything called peacful more

[hard ivy]

advanced game settings will still disable steam/epic achievements

[severe cliff]

good thing this game isn’t abt fighting so it’s technically not cheating

[peak wasp]

pause > options > gameplay > top option

[stiff grail]

set it to retiliate or passive?

[ivory condor]

being able to walk past nuclear hogs and not face consequences still feels wrong to me

[peak wasp]

passive for them to ignore you

[severe cliff]

u still take radiation or atleast i do

[cyan valve]

does ficsmas items have sink value?

[ivory condor]

same with the swamp, the whole challenge is dealing with the swamp, peaceful mode basically removes all challenge building in that area

so you basically are just turning the swamp into a darker version of the grass fields....

[stiff grail]

what does retiliate do?

[peak wasp]

attack you

[severe cliff]

i j like it on peacefull cuz killing the mobs is easy af anyways j saves time imo

[cyan valve]

means it only attacks when you attack them first

[hard ivy]

they still attack you but only after you attack them first

[stiff grail]

umm a orange flower with blue on top keeps farting on me

and making me die

[severe cliff]

blow it up

[stiff grail]

tf u mean

[severe cliff]

💣

[cyan valve]

nuke it

[stiff grail]

how though also im on passive still dying to it

with what>? i started an hour ago

[severe cliff]

that counts as a plant so passive doesn’t affect it

[hard ivy]

because it's gas. passive doesn't affect gas
just like it doesn't affect radiation

[hard ivy]

stay away from it then

[severe cliff]

in that case try and grab what u need and run

[cyan valve]

yeah those plants are on auto defensive mode when youre close. passive only applies to creatures

[severe cliff]

it takes them a bit to open up and release the gas so that gives u a couple seconds to get what u need

[stiff grail]

ok i got all my things how do i get up now

[severe cliff]

turn on keep inv and respawn

[stiff grail]

oh i forgot about that

the cave is really beautiful though

ah cant paste pics here

[severe cliff]

i’d try and avoid caves until u atleast get explosives

[stiff grail]

i didnt even mean to gethere

i fell after getting fuel for biomass

[peak wasp]

if you walk around you will more than likely find away back , as im guessing you are where i started and i killed myself 5+ times slide jumping of a cliff

[stiff grail]

wait is it all the same map?

not random generated?

[peak wasp]

one map

[severe cliff]

yea just different spawns

[stiff grail]

theres mushrooms here

should i take em?

[severe cliff]

yea they can heal u a bit

[hard ivy]

it's all one map and it's not randomly generated

[stiff grail]

damn

[severe cliff]

until 1.2 🤔

[stiff grail]

also i got like 300 gifts in my inv what do they do

[peak wasp]

yes but keep them until you unlock something later on in the game

[hard ivy]

you should take everything you can that isn't green rocks that irradiate you when you approach

[stiff grail]

do yelowish green gas kill me?

does

[severe cliff]

pretty sure all gases do

[stiff grail]

ok thx guys!

[leaden turret]

game discourages the pioneer from huffing farts

[fickle river]

My game/main title keeps glitching. It worked fine this morning but now doesn't load up correctly

[hybrid nymph]

finally fixed my power issue

turns out I was drawing too much power and not producing enuff

so I had to set up 8 more coal generators

[random garnet]

I have a recipe hete for “Turbo heavy fuel” it is 5 heavy oil residue and 4 compacted coal for 4 Turbo Fuel.

Is that good? Or is there a better recipe

[dense violet]

depends on your desired uses

theres generally no 'best' of any recipes

[random garnet]

Well I’d be using it for power

[dense violet]

imo I wouldn't use it for that

it's probably more useful for like a small turbo ammo factory or something. Or maybe for jet pack fuel

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure you'd get more power out of turning the HOR into diluted fuel and save on the coal/sulfur

[random garnet]

Ok so I just will not bother making turbo then I couldn’t care less about having better fuel for my jet pack lol

[dense violet]

turbo is only arguably better than basic fuel for jet packs

most people would use I think Liquid bio fuel over either

[mortal ginkgo]

it gives less turbo fuel for having less complexity, not worth it imho

I mean it saves space at the end of the day, which isn't an issue to begin with

[dense violet]

I don't think it saves space per power produced either.

which is why I suggested ammo or jet pack fuel as better use cases

[hard ivy]

It's basically only good for turbo ammo and maybe packaged turbo for the jetpack if you want it. It's trash for power

[leaden turret]

steel screws

[modest needle]

guys

[torn shoal]

Is default reinforced iron plates recipe better or worse than stitched iron plates?

[torn shoal]

hi

[hard ivy]

stitched 100% better. especially with iron wire

[dense violet]

except steel screws yes

[modest needle]

why I can't launch the game? It says "Failed to open descriptor file Satisfactory/FactoryGame/FactoryGame.uproject"

[dense violet]

depends what you're after really

[torn shoal]

Just overall convience and better(and easier) production rates

[dense violet]

ehhhhhhh... some people like hte wire recipe because screw logistics can be a bit different since you tend to have better layouts by building smaller screw sections near where they are used

the need for copper is annoying

I'll only use stitched if I have iron wire.
and then it's fine?

certainly less steps than ingot rod screw

assuming you don't have cast screw

[torn shoal]

yeah,i dont

[dense violet]

personally I like Bolted Plate + Steel screw. Very compact and fast

[modest needle]

why I can't launch the game? It says "Failed to open descriptor file Satisfactory/FactoryGame/FactoryGame.uproject"

[short root]

Have you tried verifying your game files?

[modest needle]

yes

I can't find this file

And verification of files doesn't fix the problem

Proper reinstallation didn't do anything too

[short root]

Okay please check this QA report and try the steps mentioned there: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66cdefc2902bf447ed77de27
If it's a continued problem, please create a thread in #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1ffix5y/cant_open_satisfactory_after_10_update/

it looks like a mod issue

[modest needle]

I don't have mods

[dense violet]

did you use to?

[modest needle]

I just installed the fresh game

[dense violet]

folders and files get left over even after a reinstall

did you use to have mods?

[modest needle]

?

I never known we could add mods in satisfactory

I just want to play the game 🙏

[dense violet]

then thats very odd

[quartz dome]

Question Should i go direcktly for Turbofuel or should i first use normal fuel until i reach Aluminium and then convert until i can use Nuclear

[dense violet]

whichever you want. I tend to just not doe turbo, jsut lost of diluted fuel

[quartz dome]

i made some numbers for that and i need 2100 caol and sulfur

Pure Crude Oil -> 240 / min.

Normal Crude Oil -> 2 x 120 / min.

-> ges: 480 / min. x 2,5 Powershard boost
        -> [480*2,5]
            -> 1200 Crude Oil / min.

Loop / min.[30 Crude Oil = [40 Heavy Oil Residue][20 polymer Resin]] <- Refinery

-> ges: 1200 / min. x 4/3
    -> [1200*(4/3)]
        -> 1600 Heavy Oil Residue / min.

Loop / min.[[30 heavy Oil Residue][60 Packaged Water] = 60 Packaged Fuel] <- Refinery

-> Req1: Loop / min.[[60 Water][60 Empty Canister] = 60 Packaged Water] <- Packager
-> Req2: Loop / min.[60 Packaged Fuel = [60 Fuel][60 Empty Canister]] <- Packager

    -> ges: 1600 x 2 / min.
        -> [1600*2]
            -> 3200 Fuel / min.

Loop / min. [20 Fuel = 250 MW] <- Fuel-Powered Generator

-> ges: [(3200 / 20) * 250] / min.
    -> 40000 MW = 40 GW

---

-> Turbofuel:
-> Loop / min.[[22,5 Fuel][15 Compacted Coal] = 18,75 Turbofuel] <- Refinery

    -> Req: Loop / min.[[25 Coal][25 Sulfur] = 25 Compacted Coal] <- Assambler
    
        -> [(15 / 22,5) * 3200]
            -> 2133,33 Coal and Sulfur / min.
        -> [(18,75 / 22,5) * 3200]
            -> 2666,66 Turbofuel / min.
                -> [2666,64 / min. = 888888 MW] ----> 88,888 GW

[dense violet]

... ok?
more fuel generators than I'd want

[south sinew]

you're doing this without the heavy oil residue alt?

[modest needle]

what

[south sinew]

oh nm my bad

[quartz dome]

with and then i dilöute to double it

[dense violet]

nm I don't think it's quite related

[dense violet]

... if you want? I just generally don't find it's worth shipping in the coal and sulfur

you can just use more oil and make more diluted fuel w/o shipping things

and you don't need that much power to get to nuclear

[quartz dome]

i would use the crude oil on the west coast

[south sinew]

if you're planning for 90gw that's not an "until nuclear" amount, that's a lot more "skip nuclear" in ambition

[hard ivy]

meanwhile I'm over here using 90 GW at the very start of phase 5

[south sinew]

I usually finished the game with like 120-130GW, so 90GW means "upgrade some to rocket fuel later and you're done" to me

[quartz dome]

thanks for the input

[dense violet]

I finished phase 5 with 30 xD

[worthy tapir]

#we lwk need a host for a satisfactory game anyone able to and no i will NOT USE THE LFG

[tall lantern]

too bad, #1201555265942724758

[worthy tapir]

AHHHH-

[south sinew]

did you consider #1201555265942724758

[worthy tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-burning-crying-smoke-gif-6017725468597337747

.

sigh.

[hollow hazel]

All messages get lost in the general chat. Forums are well organized.

[dense violet]

then get wrecked or use #1201555265942724758

[cyan oxide]

finishing a playthrough with another player is almost impossible, everyone has a different playstyle and often time personalities clash

[hollow hazel]

[Come Build With Me by Kuroi Riquid starts playing]

[leaden turret]

why would you not use the LFG?

[fluid sage]

hello

[languid marlin]

hello

[zealous urchin]

facts

satisfactory mp is ultimate personality test

[hard ivy]

Nah, just delegate

One person builds one factory

The other doesn't care how its built as long as it produces items

[zealous urchin]

at least better than zodiac and 16 combinations of 4 letters

[hard ivy]

But yeah, if you want to cooperate on a single project, that's difficult

But as long as you can split it into parts that can each be worked on by exactly one person, it's fine

[hollow hazel]

inb4 everyone wants to make a mega factory 😂

[last tartan]

5 hours of sleep

the factory will not build itself

[shy mulch]

I'd probably just spend the entire time collecting biomass

[last wasp]

there is a way to hide default map markers? not the ones that I set up, I mean the ones like dismantle crates, tractors, etc, I have some spread across the map I dont want to go to each of them just to clear

[hollow hazel]

Not individually, but you can click on 🧭 or 📍 to hide entire categories.

[nocturne warren]

Is turbo heavy fuel any good

[woeful warren]

I just got the game and am almost done with the first stage but when do you get better fuel sources?

[mortal ginkgo]

Second Phase, you get coal gens ;D

[woeful warren]

Noice

[mortal ginkgo]

btw guys I was in heat of a battle with 3 large biters. In the heat of moment, my rifle decided to reload to 69 ammo instead of 20.

He is my bro now. We are bros. We are bestest friends. He understands me. I understand him. We are good.

[last wasp]

you people make different factories across the map or move the resources to one big base?

[mortal ginkgo]

both in mixture. I got a main HUB base but my coal, fuel, compact coal, concrete, oil stuff are elsewhere

[dense violet]

whichever you prefer

but making hubs is generally simpler and less of a mess

[strong fiber]

Its gonna take 3 hours and twenty minutes to make all the parts to go into phase 2

[lunar python]

sloop

[hard ivy]

and OC

[fallen orbit]

Is there like chat in multiplayer aswell? Because I don't have any friends who play satisfactory might look on discord for somebody down for a multiplayer save but can't voice call aswell so yeah

[stiff grail]

guys how do i play modded do i need a special launcher or smth?

[unkempt blade]

there's text chat in game

[fallen orbit]

So it does have it good to know thanks

[hard ivy]

ficsit.app

[stiff grail]

on google?

wait so that means its officiall mods?

[hard ivy]

it's a link

no, it's just a website and launcher for community mods

[stiff grail]

are there modpacks like in minecraft?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

you can ask in the modding server

[hard ivy]

not really. but you can install individual mods

[dense violet]

I've never heard of mod packs, but they could exist

[hard ivy]

I guess you could make a modpack by making a mod that does nothing but lists many other mods as dependencies

then you install that one and all the others get installed

but idk if anyone did that

[heavy pine]

Getting a free hard drive from the advent calendar is a lot less useful when you've got cheats advanced game options enabled and unlocked all recipes.

[heavy pine]

So far my FICSMAS factory is using about 8.5GW of power.

[unkempt blade]

these are the consequences of not patiently waiting to unlock biocoal like the rest of us

[glad quest]

not rlly

[heavy pine]

Eh, I already went out into the world and gathered all the hard drives on a previous playthrough.

[glad quest]

5 powa shards

it was before u could make them

like manafacture them

[austere wyvern]

Do machines work if they are in the deathzone?

[unkempt blade]

but now you don't get to reexperience the joy of unlocked biocoal 🙁

[unkempt blade]

as long as they have resources and power

[austere wyvern]

thx, i have 5 refineries outside and managed to connect them to conveyors

[unkempt blade]

you just start building too close to the edge or something?

the world is huge so I'd be curious why someone would intentionally build in the deathzone but different strokes 😆

[austere wyvern]

used up too much space with my 144000mw power plant that i didnt want to move my oil too far so now i just have a line of 50 refineries for my plasti c and rubber plant

[last wasp]

what is the use of the gifts?

[hard ivy]

ficsmas

[last wasp]

what I do with them? Im dumping in a storage, I tried to sink them, dont work.

[cyan valve]

if dont want to do ficsmas just turn it off in the game settings under Seasonal Events

[last wasp]

It's not that I don't want them, I just want to know what they are used for?

[cyan valve]

theyre used for crafting ficsmas items

go check your Mam

and your hub youll see the calendar

[last wasp]

tyvm

[north parcel]

Chat how would one go about splitting a belt where i need to feed 4 systems on one side and 5 on the other equally?

[quartz dome]

if you want it small, use smart splitters with overflow, otherwise you sadly have to watch a youtube tutorial

[north parcel]

Ah so i just have a smart splitter with overflow that goes into the second part of manufactures?

Would that be fine since im making nuclear stuff? I dont want my power to go up n down

[hard ivy]

you generally don't need to split anything equally

just use a manifold and it'll work

[north summit]

should i leave my alien protein as alien protein or should i convert it into alien dna capsules for the sink

I just built a "automated" protein factory

[north parcel]

Im working with quickwire so a manifold wont fit on 1 mk6 belt

[hard ivy]

keep some for inhalers and packaged lbf for the jetpack, the rest can go to the sink

[fading whale]

Remember Early Access when Ficmas was the only way to get a specific item to unlock that single wreck?
And then using said item without knowing this? 😂

[hard ivy]

then I'd use a belt balancer or mixer

[north parcel]

Ah okay thank you

[north summit]

fair

I honestly just eat plants instead of inhalers

[teal geyser]

Holy moly

[last wasp]

there is only one size of blueprint maker?

[teal geyser]

There is more

[charred sentinel]

There are three - 4, 5, and 6 blocks square each.

Bear in mind that a blueprint created in one cannot be opened in another, even if the blueprint is 4x4 and you're trying to open it in the 6x6 maker.

[teal geyser]

mk2 and mk3

[teal geyser]

Welp

[gentle lion]

Oh man I gotta hit my hard drove collection so I can make computers easier

Need a new computer factory and heavy modular frame factory ...

[charred sentinel]

This may be a "duh" question, but can I use Petroleum Coke anywhere I can use Coal? Specifically, in the Gas Filter component for my Gas Mask?

[hard ivy]

no? they're 2 different items

[charred sentinel]

I was afraid of that. They use the same graphic and can both be used in the Coal Powered Generator, so I was hoping 🙂

[gentle lion]

I missed those stupid filters in the list it's like my.braij said nope not here

[hard ivy]

the graphic is different, actually

[gentle lion]

I need more mycelia again

We should be able to grow it.

[hard ivy]

you can make synthetic fabric

so you don't need mycelia

[gentle lion]

Duh I forgot about that

[scenic mirage]

i mean the description for petroleum coke literally says "used as a less efficient coal replacement"

[charred sentinel]

Huh - so it is. Pretty subtle, though, unless you put 'em next to each other.

Yeah, I read that in the description. I still thought it was worth asking.

[quick barn]

Oh that's cheeks.
I didn't know that.

[gentle lion]

I remember why I didnt unlock synthetic fabric I was too lazy to go grab the crystals out of quartz storage

[twin helm]

Just unlocked oil, and idek where to start rn, so much new stuff, time to get the pen and paper out

[gentle lion]

I did finally make the xeno basher

[reef basin]

manifold

[sly heart]

I feel like I've gotten worse at planning the inital copper/iron factory I normally do

120 iron 60 copper but I keep flubbing the math while trying to make reinforced plates, frames, and rotors

[unique siren]

what is the best way to make circuitboards if i have a ton of crude oil and caterium?

caterium circuitboard or electrode circuitboard?

would electrode be better if i want to save caterum for AI limiters and HSC?

[hard ivy]

If you want to waste a ton of oil, sure

If you want to save caterium, just use pure ingot and fused quickwire

[unique siren]

i have a full 600 crude allocated

[hard ivy]

You can also use the alt for HSCs

[unique siren]

havent unlocked it and am too lazy to pull up wiki, what does it take?

i do have spare drives laying around but am saving for aluminum alt

[hard ivy]

!wikisearch hsc

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=hsc

[unique siren]

thx

[grizzled lotus]

what do you guys do when you suddenly struggle with production? my first hiccupt is always steel, which I'm facing right now. Do you boost with powershards, find more nodes? etc?

[unique siren]

i do not want to bring silica to my factory

[grizzled lotus]

right now I'm thinking of making a factory for steel beams and another for steel pipes instead of having them take from the same nodes

[unique siren]

what do you mean by struggle with production?

do you just not have enough resources?

[grizzled lotus]

not making enough

[unique siren]

well if your belts allow, allways use powershards on miners

if you have unlocked somersloop boosting you can use that as a bandaid fix but its not a good one

[versed cosmos]

just got the caterium finish how do i apply it to a bunch of stuff ive already built?

[hard ivy]

Then just make more

[unique siren]

nah but can i feasibly make HSC, AI limiter and Computers off of the same caterium node?

[sly heart]

Use the customizer, you apply it like a normal paint

[versed cosmos]

do i need to run around and click on everything

[hard ivy]

Depends how much you want to make

[unique siren]

well idealy enough so that i wouldnt immediately have to upscale my factory to make more lategame items

like rebuild from scratch i mean

[unkempt blade]

build stuff => build more of it is basically the core gameplay loop until your computer begs for the sweet release of death

[unique siren]

well yeah but it sucks having to IMMEDIATELY tear down a factory to meet demand

i want to atleast somewhat futureproof

[unkempt blade]

why you tearing stuff down? build more not rebuild!

[unique siren]

idunno, i just make factories like that, i should probably not do that

but uhhhhhh