satisfactory

[sullen gull]

With no change to required input

[steel kelp]

I didnt know they used more power

[gleaming dragon]

Nope its just 2x bigger machines just take more sloops to do it.

[wicked nacelle]

sloops are generally better other places in my opinion. You can make a LOT more power from fuel by getting diluted fuel adn then turbo fuel and later fuels.

you can easily get 10x more power than you're making now from the same oil

[wicked nacelle]

well it does whatever fraction of 2x for the number of sloops -- if you put 1 in a 2-sloop machine you get 150% production

or 1/2/3 in a 4 slooper is 125% 150% 175%

it just gives you an extra run's worth every 2/3/4 production run

huh i actually don't know about things that make 2 per run if they have 1/2 sloops -- does it give you 3 every time or just 2 then 4 then 2 then 4?? Dunno

[sage viper]

i have a odd question , does somebody have a FicSit logo without background ?

[wicked nacelle]

if you fully sloop a machine it makes 2x as much so you can support twice as much. but seriously don't sloop your fuel. Go find one of the diluted fuel alts. It will give you a TON more fuel. More fuel than using sloops

also you have to make sure your pipes can handle the 2x production -- so you need twice as many pipes if you sloop vs don't sloop

[steel kelp]

Try using a planner like satisfactory tools or modeller, that helps visualise and break down the bigger builds

[wicked nacelle]

it won't help you with the right pipe setups to use though or how to connect things

[steel kelp]

I run all my builds through modeller and i basically make it into floor plans for sections of each factory

[wicked nacelle]

oh maybe modeler does I don't know

[steel kelp]

Well you can kinda do this in modeler

You just make it each line carries your max belt or pipe speed

[wicked nacelle]

does it actually do it FOR you? or are you just making your factory twice?

[steel kelp]

But thats a pain imo and i just do it in my head

[steel kelp]

No you have to do it yourself lol which is why j dont do it

[sullen gull]

Meaning it's easy enough to look at total output and to discern how many pipes are needed

[steel kelp]

But its helpful for visualising a factory, and you can just divide the numbers by your max belt/pipe to figure out how you split it

Exactly like tinker said ye

I did this for the first week of console release and burnt out

Had to not play nearly as much for a few days to recover

[sullen gull]

@rugged jasper Satisfactory Modeler: #screenshots message

[steel kelp]

Thats probs a better example than mine lmao

Its a software on steam called satisfactory modeller

Different to the website based calculators you’re probably using

[sullen gull]

SFTools is nice as it will come up with production chains automatically, but the layout leaves something to be desired. Modeler is more of a manual layout planner, with a much better layout and organization imo.

[steel kelp]

Yeh i get an idea of the recipes i might wanna use in tools and then make it in modeller to see how im actually gonna do it

Right click

[dawn path]

my last burnout lasted half a year 😭😭

[sullen gull]

Right click on the screen to add machines, once you have a machine, you can drag from it's input or output to make other machines.

[dawn path]

but now im back on track

[steel kelp]

Yea i can imagine, for me i got to needing to automate supercomputers and was trying to make independent factories. Finding the right production line for the sc and then the location made me realise i needed a break lol

It does the math for you

You just make the production line into what you wanna build

[sullen gull]

Click the small book in the left hand corner for satistics. Also Outposts and Blueprints are a great way to organize factories.

[dawn path]

i was in the middle of a nuclear project lmao, got about halfway theough plutonium and realized the sheer gravity of this process

[steel kelp]

I just finished mine, it makes plut rods but im sinking them for now

So much pasta needed to process plutonium i cant think about it now

Im making like 30 plutonium rods a min

[dawn path]

oh boy
i honestly cant wait to start nuclear (new save), i was dreading it before but i want a big project

[dawn path]

oh wow

[steel kelp]

Check screenshots

[sullen gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDBiaOFU0_I

[dawn path]

i was making like 1.5 🥲

in my defense i was just working with the local uranium so not many resources at my disposal

[steel kelp]

Yea this is like 1200 uranium w all the machines processing it slooped

I mean theres just no need to make that much lol i was being extra

Wouldnt compare your save to other people

[dawn path]

i ❤️oil

after “fully” understanding how pipes work in this game i’ve come to love working with them

[steel kelp]

Its the most fun ive had in the game esp w balancing byproducts

[dawn path]

there’s a certain joy in being forced to actually think about how i lay my pipes

[steel kelp]

Try to not have elevation changes in your pipes, especially sloped ones, they can cause all sorts of fluid issues

The flatter the pipe the better

[dawn path]

im glad i took the time to try and comprehend pipes lmao, turning recycled water into packaged water and sinking it is one hell of a process

[steel kelp]

And then the neater you can make them, meaning straight lines, the easier it will be to understand and diagnose issues

But the elevation changes and buffers are the most common causes of issues imo

[dawn path]

and also its recommended to loop your manifolds (as in once you reach the end of a pipe manifold, loop it all the way back to the start of the manifold)

this prevents backflow

[wicked nacelle]

????????

oh god don't do this.

[steel kelp]

I meant specifically in the screenshot you sent. In the bit to the right of the big square, i think one of the pipes is sloped

[dawn path]

good luck if it stops working 😭long pipelines are notorious for acting up

[wicked nacelle]

it's not, you could just stop using it.

[sullen gull]

Why not? I have factories runningoff of km of pipes

[steel kelp]

I used to do this, but now i understand fluids well enough that i dont rly need to. I just fill every pipe network i have.

[pine adder]

can you break the natural rocks on the map?

[wicked nacelle]

I didn't raelize it when you said it wasn't working right that you were doing stuff like that 🙁 That basically makes it INCREDIBLY difficult to troubleshoot

[wicked nacelle]

because when things don't work well it's VERY difficult to troubleshoot

[sullen gull]

No, it's not.

[steel kelp]

Do you not love inspecting kilometres of pipes

[dawn path]

pipe dream

[sullen gull]

It does not matter how long a run is, so long as fluid is full, it's fine.

[dapper marten]

Ok so, I've basically unlocked almost everything except the mk3 cubes BP thing and the door stuff
What is the main purpose of ficsonium other than waste free nuclear power?

[wicked nacelle]

no, fluid buffers are only good for fluid train stations -- nowhere else does it solve a problem

[white dawn]

While that is theoretically the case, and can of course work in practice too, we have very often had users come in with mysterious pipe problems which seem awfully directly linked to really long pipelines

[steel kelp]

This gives me sm anxiety

[wicked nacelle]

you've either found a weird bug or have done something else wrong.

[white dawn]

If someone's already got a working super-long pipeline, then great! But IMO it should be approached with caution at best for new builds. :D

[steel kelp]

Fluid buffers can cause weird problems that might not be apparent now is what i think hes trying to say. You might think its an issue with xyz, but its actually the buffer causing it

[wicked nacelle]

if I logged into someone's world to help them with their pipes and they had a 20km pipeline (which I don't think is actually possible in the game without intentionally going around in circles) I'd just log back out and wish them luck.

10km is about the distance from corner to corner in the map

[sullen gull]

Most likely due to trying to run log straight manifolds. Running fluids in pipes over long distance is not usually the issue. Unless headlift problems.

However, if Xaxxon was referring to the "tower" then yeah, not needed and can usually mask other issues.

[white dawn]

Could be, sure, but the server's also run into seeming mystery cases. I do totally believe that plenty of folks have perfectly-working long pipelines, but I'm still inclined to think they have the potential to cause issues all on their own in some cases

And debugging those cases can be annoying. :)

[wicked nacelle]

and the longer the pipe the longer the debugging. like option one would just be "delete it and remake it" but a massive pipelie could take 30min to do that

[mortal ginkgo]

real 100% alpha male men carry water in their hands

and still got overclocked nuclear plants going on 100% effifiency

[last tartan]

did anybody else encounter issues with blueprints?

ive had a few of them saved from ~a month ago and they all seemed to have disappeared..

ohhhh

wait. they're saved in a storage devices' data arent they?

im on a new computer that might be my issue

[wicked nacelle]

yes they are stored locally in your %localappdata%/factorygame subdirectories

that's sort of correct but the fluid buffer isn't necessary to figure that out -- each pipe segment has it's own amount of fluid in it that can tell you exactly the same thing

the problem is that the buffers are just a worse pipe unless they're full and if they're full they're not really buffering anything

[dawn path]

merry ficsmas (if its midnight for you)

[sullen gull]

It can work for a second and get worse over time with plumbing issues.

Especially with straight deadhead manifolds

[steel kelp]

How does ficsmas work? Can i log on tomorrow and just start doing it or do i need to wait a few days for things to unlock

Will be a nice break from building intense mega factories lol

[wicked nacelle]

each day unlocks a little bit more. you don't miss anything if you wait to do a bunch. early is REALLY tiny unlocks IIRC

[steel kelp]

So like i cant do everything day 1?

[wicked nacelle]

not even close. There's a mod that unlocks it I think

[steel kelp]

Thats a shame lol

Guess ill have no choice but to start working on my new nuclear pasta facility

[kindred crater]

6 inpure iron nodes all for the sake of making rotors

[sullen gull]

It works like one of those advent calendars.

!wikisearch fuel+generator

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fuel+generator

[steel kelp]

Pretty good, i cant say for certain but i built a 10gw fuel plant and then with a similar amount of effort i built a 40gw turbo fuel plant

[dense violet]

with turbo fuel you're basically turning Coal and Sulfur into more oil

fuel generators still output teh same power but you need less turbo fuel per min

[steel kelp]

Id do it just to practice fluids ngl

[steel kelp]

As in you unlock stuff to make throughout the advent calendar

[wicked nacelle]

You go from 20/m to 7.5/m fuel consumption per generator -- so it's about 2.5x more power

[dense violet]

tons

[sullen gull]

Yes

[wicked nacelle]

yes there are like 5-6 oil spots? north coast has the most

[dense violet]

you can, in fact, just make more diluted fuel instead and it's simpler.

but some peopel find turbo fun

[sullen gull]

There are 30 total oils nodes on the map. Purity aside.

[steel kelp]

I think its just beneficial to make as many diff liquid setups as possible to just to learn it. Thats what i did and when i made nuclear at the end of the game i had no issues doing it

[wicked nacelle]

you can make diluted fuel AND then use that to make more more turbo fuel

that's plenty to make both a lot of plastic/rubber AND a lot of power

[sullen gull]

And then Rocket Fuel .. muwhaha

[wicked nacelle]

north east

[steel kelp]

When you get rocket fuel you can make 140gw from 1 pure node which is more than enough to beat the game

[wicked nacelle]

and if you are where I think you are then once you unlock nitrogen you also unlock a big additional oil node at that same spot

[steel kelp]

Try the south east corner of the map for oil

[sullen gull]

Oil resource well*

[steel kelp]

Theres like 4 pure nodes lol

[hallow crow]

how do i get the glass floors?

[sullen gull]

Structural frame set in awesome shop

[hallow crow]

thx

[sullen gull]

That is from https://www.satisfactory-calculator.com fyi

The Interactive Map

South, to the blue crater, is a decent area too

But, north, in the "spiral coast", is "prettier" 😛

[teal pulsar]

Satisfactory needs a hard mode where physics matter. No more sky factories 😂

I just want to watch things implode 🙂

[hallow crow]

as in they need to add a physics mode, so that people cant just have stuff floating like ts is not minecraft

[south sinew]

it would be bad for performance and also less fun

[sullen gull]

More like this? #screenshots message 😏

[hallow crow]

hence why it would be a "mode"

your choice to play it -_-

[teal pulsar]

Hmm yess I want to squish it

[sullen gull]

Heh, thanks, but that is nothing compaired to many others. Taking a look through #design-and-architecture can leave one in awe of others' creativity in this game.

[true mulch]

PSA: the wiki seems to be sporadically failing to show pages with the following error:

Composer detected issues in your platform: Your Composer dependencies require a PHP version ">= 8.3.0". 

We've already reported this to wiki.gg staff, it seems to be affecting more than just our wiki.
If you run into the error, try waiting a little bit and refreshing the page.

[sullen gull]

These were fun to build 😛 #screenshots message

[hallow crow]

what is cam button?

[sullen gull]

P

[hallow crow]

thx

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

Give or take the times I passed out with the game still on 🤣

[native tapir]

So still fairly new

[hallow crow]

#screenshots message pls vote

[sullen gull]

Very much so 🤣

[hallow crow]

i need to know

[sullen gull]

You can use catwalks or pillars (or a couple other methods) to make them curved if you want.

[hallow crow]

hmmm

so 10 days in the save?

224 hours = 9.5 days

rounded up = 10

[sullen gull]

Those hours are only since Aug 18th of 2024 😛

Was still in U8, a month or so before 1.0 release.

[hallow crow]

still doesnt change the fact that 224 hours does = 10 days

well 9.333 reoccurring if you wanna get specific

[sullen gull]

But, otherwise, I'd say two. 🤷‍♂️

[steel kelp]

2 is way nicer imo

[sullen gull]

2 seems a bit more sporadic, until you realise they are symmetrical. 1 just makes it "quicker" to see that imo.

[hallow crow]

how about this #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Gives more space around the outisde for sure. What's the "end goal" ?

[hallow crow]

im trying to make it look good whilst covering the island bit on the corner, so i decided to make it symmetrical and have glass as most of the floor

[native tapir]

Thank you Satisfactory community. May have actually shed a tear today (I'll just claim this is AI if you try to quote me on that part)

#screenshots message

[hallow crow]

#screenshots message hmmm

[sullen gull]

@native tapir, any insights towards #design-and-architecture message ?

[steel kelp]

Oh is it not the base for a factory?

[hallow crow]

is is

its like the very bottom

but i will build like a lil box a bit higher then make a more good looking part, so it can act as a foundation that is hollow so i can make factorys in it

[steel kelp]

The gap in the floor is gonna be covered by the subsequent floors?

[hallow crow]

glass foundation

[sullen gull]

Glass

[steel kelp]

That’s not what i meant

Like are you not gonna have floors above that base layer which cover the gap

[hallow crow]

ye

[native tapir]

Use beams to add artificial thickness and then curve using those. Basically make decorative edges for your lifts.

[hallow crow]

i will have more floors

[steel kelp]

Oh is that space always gonna be more glass even on the above floors

I think I get you im being slow

[hallow crow]

im just going like 224 / 24

[sullen gull]

There are lifts inside already. The issue is I was looking for a way to make a more "free form" tendril, not limited by belt angles.

[hallow crow]

idk how much u get a day, u said 13 days so i divided 224 / 24 and that told me how many hours converted to days

i wasnt saying anything about how much u play a day

[sullen gull]

Or, you saying use "lift hax" to make the "skeleton" of the tendril, then build around that 🤔

[native tapir]

Artificial thickness. Like make the beams look like they are part of the lifts. Custom "framing" for the lifts. But then make thicker/thinner as you go up in a curved pattern. Lifts will be straight but they will appear to be curved and look like tendrils

Can do it with pipes also

[hallow crow]

#screenshots message gng

[sullen gull]

What I meant by "lift hax" btw: #screenshots message

[native tapir]

Infinite Nudge?

[sullen gull]

Yeah

[native tapir]

Ahhhh I assumed vanilla. Went back and re read just now sorry

[sullen gull]

No worries. And yeah, trying for a "functional art piece" No mods that change the production in any way. (Outside of maybe "faking" those tendrils. Still not sure yet.)

[native tapir]

Ohhhhh @reef basin where are you?

You can finally make your website un-stupid again😁 factory cart race just ended.

[neon sail]

Is calendar event ?!

[hallow crow]

#screenshots message

i has question there

[flint grail]

Tmw your entire belt upgrade in your warehouse is halted because of a single mod 😭

[hardy moat]

maybe do like a balcony and you can have refineries poking through

[hallow crow]

i mean ig but like im just tryna figure out if i should have the open holes around the middle one as concrete or glass

the middle part is gonna be a hole

[shut grove]

is there a mod or something that fixes the ghost hdds in the object scanner?

[hard ivy]

There are ghost drop pods in the terrain LODs but I haven't heard of the object sanner showing HDDs that have already been picked up

[rapid scroll]

Im new to the game and wanted to ask what i could do and build in the game to make stuff look cooler and be asthetically more pleasing

[merry granite]

theres lots of aesthetic stuff to unlock in the AWESAM shop if you have that yet

you can use alot of those to make cool buildings and platforms

and pathways

[charred sentinel]

How dynamic is the train path-finding? I've got a single line with a passing lane, and on my first test run the two trains that use that section deadlocked at one end of the passing lane, even though the train coming from the single track had a clear path forward.

[dense violet]

it's static

so not at all.

[dense violet]

it's mostly practice and planning, look up design videos for tips and tricks 🙂 but it's mostly practice and planning

[last tartan]

Satisfactory has involvement with Epic Games??

[hallow crow]

yo im back wsp

[rapid scroll]

Alright thank you i will check tthat out

[hallow crow]

damn this never got answered

[valid laurel]

dumb question but what are the presents for?

[hallow crow]

xmas event

u gotta wait till ficsmas

[valid laurel]

man

where am I gonna store these presents

[hallow crow]

its gonna be soon dw

[hallow crow]

industrial storage bins

[valid laurel]

do you know any early game materials to make tickets from the awesam shop (like early early)

[hallow crow]

i just put anything i have a filled bin of into the sink

[heavy pine]

I spent some time getting some iron and copper smelting set up to dedicate to FICSMAS ornament crafting earlier. I'm planning to have 60/min of every FICSMAS component by the time I'm done. Which is going to be a lot of trees generating presents.

[hallow crow]

with smart splitters which are easy to get, just explore the map till u find stuff like sulphur, quartz and caterium then start up with the MAM thats what i do as soon as i start a save

makes life way easier, also makes more thing get unlocked in the awsome shop

[valid laurel]

okay thansk

[hallow crow]

oh shit ficsmas is out

i didnt know that

oh well it is dec 1

[heavy pine]

Depending on your time zone, yeah. I'd still have about 6 hours to go, assuming it kicks in at midnight local time.

[rapid scroll]

Can someone please answer my thingy from the #screenshots channel please❤️‍🩹🙏

[teal pulsar]

There's no real right or wrong answer here, if it works it works lol

[rapid scroll]

Thats fair and i guess doing a screenshot doesnt really make sense cuz u would have to see how it functions

[dense violet]

also that's the worst place to ask a question

[teal pulsar]

There's a line between making something work, and maximizing efficiency

[dense violet]

#math-and-meta you can talk and post pictures

[teal pulsar]

You can make almost anything work, but it takes a lot of time and planning to make something work 100% efficiently

[rapid scroll]

Ohh alr didnt know thanks for aknowledgeing me or however u type that

[last tartan]

is there a form of satisfactory freecam?

[dense violet]

theres photomode?

[last tartan]

yes that worked wonderfully

how again do i access my screenshots via photo mode?

[lofty forge]

hey people is there a way i can force tools to use blender diluted fuel and not the packaged version?

it really likes pivoting from blenders for some reason

i already tried disabling packaged diluted. but even then it ignored the blender version

[white dawn]

Disabling Packaged Diluted should definitely take care of it for you. Share the link to your plan, maybe?

[lofty forge]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xLjXXtnL9MKOJZISNVcA

[leaden turret]

#faq

[lofty forge]

it just keeps ignoring them for some reason

[sullen gull]

There is a button on the window opened by hitting Tab in photo mode that opens the folder for you.

[last tartan]

ahh okay. i was gonna say, when i look in my documents folder theres no mention of this game

[gentle lion]

One pure oil node should run 5 generators but when I tried the back 2 or 3 would not get enough fuel is there a trick to it?

[white dawn]

So the "Maximize" option does sometimes end up doing some weird things. When I load that link, sftools actually ends up just using the default Fuel recipe for some reason; not sure what's up with that

[lofty forge]

yup. exact problem

[white dawn]

If it switch from maximize to like 250/min it does flip over to using Diluted Fuel (the blender version) like you'd expect

I wasn't aware of that particular problem with Maximize, but you might want to just specify the rate and keep bumping it up until it's consuming all your oil

[last tartan]

so folks, ive had my (very poor looking) base set up right here and ive been considering moving it. Do you guys think i should move up to the desert? https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1444862844553134222

[white dawn]

Oh okay, yeah, that behavior's almost certainly due to some weird interactions between "maximize" and the Compacted Coal you've got input

Like the default Fuel recipe is enough to supply the Turbofuel recipe, given the oil input, so it seems happy to just use that

I bet if you'd add in coal+sulfur and removed the compacted coal input it'd flip over to using Diluted as you'd hope

(Which I realize isn't what you want, since what you've got is 200/min Compacted Coal; just kind of thinking out loud here. :)

[lofty forge]

alright. setting the pro. amount to 250 gives me the numbers i wanted. weird interaction. thanks

[white dawn]

Yeah, with "maximize" the usual advice is to use it once to see what the final number turns out to be, and then flip it over to the explicit items/min

It's still a bit weird (IMO) that it defaults to Fuel instead of opting for Diluted when doing maximize, but that may just be one of the quirks

[last tartan]

awe, did they get rid of engine sounds for vehicles?

[lofty forge]

it probably doesnt have an, ummmmm .try-to-use-the-least-amount-when-water-exists. dont know how to explain it exactly

[wicked nacelle]

no

[last tartan]

I’m curious to as how the truck engine only whirs a little bit

[glass umbra]

Anyone able to help me? Im pretty new. Having a hard time finding SAM to continue MAM research. Im in desert dune but dont know where I spawned. Having a hard time finding myself on a map online.

[last tartan]

I don’t hear anything, whereas my explorer still has an engine sound

[wicked nacelle]

i'm on a truck right now.. it has a diesel engine-ish sound

but I have 1000 watt subwoofer under my desk....

not that it's shaking my room from the engine sound or anything

[last tartan]

well of course

can you give me details on that subwoofer? looking to buy one

[wicked nacelle]

I'll @ you in offtopic

[last tartan]

k

[dense violet]

that link leads to basically a 100% exploration spoiler

[lofty forge]

sorry dude

[glass umbra]

Im on the interactive map. Im just having a hard time finding myself on the map.

[dense violet]

if you want another option pinged you in sc reen shots

[white dawn]

Nah, all good -- just is nice to mention that it's a big spoiler. Some folks won't care (and OP was already looking online for a full map anyway). :)

[white dawn]

You can import your save via a button on the righthand side, fwiw, and your Pioneer location should be easy to find that way

[dense violet]

the entrance to the cave with that one is near the water I think you have to blow apart a rock. Small crack in the wall

[glass umbra]

That flew over my head.

I have 10hrs.

[heavy pine]

SAM tends to be hard to get to.

Lots of it is in caves, ravines, or up on high plateaus.

[dense violet]

just look for that outcopping I linked at you, then go to the ground level, next to the water, and look for a crack in the wall

[heavy pine]

One of the first things I try to do in a new save is to get the dimensional depots up and running so I don't have to carry around as much stuff.

Which you do need SAM for, which is why I thought of that.

[glass umbra]

Thats what Im trying to do.

If I send a screenshot, do yall think you could figure out where I am?

[dense violet]

do you not recognize where in the desert that small mountain is?

[dense violet]

#screenshots message

[glass umbra]

No 😭
Ive been staring at this map trying to find the river Im at on the map

[dense violet]

this is the north part of the river. The only place where you ahve 3 branches like that

[glass umbra]

I found it!

[dense violet]

so just go into the black part

#satisfactory message

[wicked nacelle]

in your game map it has coordinates in the top right. In SCIM it shows the same coordinates -- but they're 100x bigger. just match the coordinates

[glass umbra]

Thank you,

[unreal yew]

Has Fiscmas started yet?

[heavy pine]

Should start on December 01, so maybe depending on your time zone.

[white dawn]

It starts at midnight local time, wherever you are. Technically you can cheese it by changing your system clock

[unreal yew]

What's the local start time?

[white dawn]

Note that you'll need to load into the game during a time when the event's active; if you're still playing a game you started prior to midnight, and it passes midnight, you'll need to save+reload

[wicked nacelle]

whatever your computer clock says the time is

[white dawn]

Midnight

("local time" just means whatever time your computer thinks it is)

[unreal yew]

Ahh yes US, it's not the first there yet

I'm in AU

[white dawn]

Also make sure you've got "Seasonal Events" enabled in the game settings (from the main menu)

If you've played in previous years and disabled it, your game probably remembers that selection

[unreal yew]

The mam has it ready to go, just won't do anything

[white dawn]

(I believe they're enabled by default, but if you're loading in "fresh" and your computer thinks it's Dec 1, maybe that's why)

[white dawn]

Oh, if you see the FICSMAS tree in the MAM, then it's active for you. You need to look in your HUB for an advent calendar. :)

(There should also be gifts bombing you from the sky. :)

[wicked nacelle]

don't get too excited -- a little tiny bit unlocks each day and you can't do that much at first

[potent ether]

so ficmas has stated for the ppl who are after midnight?

[wicked nacelle]

it's fun but it's not some massive content drop on the first day

if your computer calendar says "dec 1" then it should have started

[unreal yew]

It's greyed out, but the tab is there

[glass umbra]

Thank you again for the help, factory friends.

[heavy pine]

Yeah, it trickles through from the first to the 25th.

[wicked nacelle]

yep. There's a couple days that are much bigger than the others, too.

[heavy pine]

I was slightly annoyed that they showed the advent calendar on the announcement video. Had to look away to avoid possible spoilers.

[unreal yew]

I know, I just like having the maximum time. and hey, it's christmas!

[heavy pine]

Those numbers have been hard to find in previous years, but that's half the fun of such a thing.

[white dawn]

Oh, did they? Hah, I totally missed it, must not have been paying too close attention. :P

[heavy pine]

I think they did. I turned away pretty quickly, so maybe it was just a placeholder or something.

[fervent dragon]

so im trying to toggle seasonal events on, tried it on the in game server managment screen and that didnt work, if i was to change an environment on the actual admin panel, what would be the name of environment to look for?

is it just the same thing in whatever panel's formmate is?

[heavy pine]

What time is the server's clock set to?

[sullen gull]

Pretty sure it's local time?

[fervent dragon]

nah like it wont disable at all

and how would i find out the host time? just where the machine is?

[heavy pine]

I would expect it to be the server's time if you're connecting to a dedicated server.

[fervent dragon]

hmm

alright hang on i got an idea

[heavy pine]

I haven't touched multiplayer.

[fervent dragon]

well im gonna change the restart time and wait it out lol

[wicked nacelle]

they weren't last year. but they did stop after there were a certain number on the ground I think

I forget if they show up on the map or..../

or you just look for sparkly things? there was some reasonable way to find them on the ground

[heavy pine]

I mean, you could wait around and not touch the game until the event is almost over and still get everything as far as I know.

[wicked nacelle]

stupid truck. It fell off its road and back onto the path it had come in on to the cave and picked up that path instead

im playing this playthrough just so I'm 100% justified hating them

no trains no drones

no crazy long belts

[kindred crater]

Is 8 rotors per minute going to be enough?

[wicked nacelle]

no number you make early game will be enough later for good production rates -- but you get better tools for making a lot more later... so if you try to produce enough early you'll spend a LOT more time than if you just say "this is good for now"

[whole drum]

The first few phases are basically just:

• Generate enough power to not worry about it
• Build enough of everything that it feeds into your DD so that it's available when you need it
• Build the project parts to enter next phase
• Lay some ground work for the infrastructure of your factory as it spans the map (especially power poles, roads, trains, etc)--but be prepared to alter/abandon this if the needs of your factory require it. This is okay because that infrastructure generally still assists in the traversal of the map.

[wicked nacelle]

make sure you're doing your MAM unlocks and not just your HUB unlocks -- do you have blade runners yet?

[kindred crater]

I uhh

I dont think so

[heavy pine]

They're a game-changer, very worth the effort to unlock and craft them.

[kindred crater]

I just got mk3 belts

What are blade runners?

[south pecan]

very worth it

[heavy pine]

They increase running speed and jumping height.

[kindred crater]

-# ah.

[south pecan]

and you can gain speed insanely fast if you slide hop with them

its very nice 🤑

[heavy pine]

Unlock, craft, equip, zoom-zoom

[wicked nacelle]

they make building factories a TOOOON easier and exploration is obviously bertter too

whenever you find a small deposit of an ore you haven't seen before do it and then research it in the MAM it will unlock the scanner for it

[kindred crater]

I just got finished making a rotor factory, it was the largest project I had ever undertaken

Would've certainly been easier if I could move faster

[heavy pine]

Need a mod that makes them upgradable to Boots of Ludicrous Speed. 😄

[wicked nacelle]

so just find a small quartz deposit and then you can search for more quartz

[wicked nacelle]

it's actually the jump height that's the most helpful - you can easily get on top of splitters/pipes which then you can jump on top of constructors

[kindred crater]

Would've CERTAINLY been helpful

[wicked nacelle]

it will continue to be helpful throughout the entire game

the other core mobility devices are all in HUB unlocks

but there's lots of other quality of life upgrades in the MAM -- make sure to look for sulphur 🙂

[whole drum]

One of the biggest, and most subtle, ways that it helps is that it gives you enough extra jump height to clear splitters, so maneuvering around them while building stuff is just way easier.

[kindred crater]

Ive been playing one of my friends, hes been the one on top of all the unlocks while I make the factories

I believe we unlocked bombs

[wicked nacelle]

there's lot of stuff you can't get to without bombs/nobelisks

[heavy pine]

In the past I've stocked up on FICSMAS snowballs to blast through rocks.

[wicked nacelle]

what is this????

[broken flame]

is there any channel that explains getting stuck on the grey loading screen and it not launching after that

[wicked nacelle]

pc or console?

[broken flame]

pc

[heavy pine]

As part of the FICSMAS holiday event you unlock snowballs that can be used with the nobelisk detonator. They don't do a ton of damage, but they're enough to destroy the rocks.

[wicked nacelle]

I don't remember that at all... craaaaaaazy

[compact flicker]

Why cant we just have 90° triangle foundations 😭

[heavy pine]

I don't think they're part of the tree decoration progression.

So they're fairly easy to miss.

[dense violet]

there are , corner foundations

[wicked nacelle]

I got to nitrogen. I'm officially done with my vehicles only game until the fluid trucks come out

[compact flicker]

Im seeing corner ramps and the inverted corner ramp pack, but no solid foundations

Im using the inverted corner ramps cuz they work well enough, are there solid corner foundations I'm missing?

[dense violet]

just the inverted corners

a lot of people probably just angle regular foundations at 45 degrees

[compact flicker]

I would, but even with the original structure being snapped to the world grid, its slighty off and clips >:

Inverted corners it is

[dense violet]

build the 45 degree foundations from both ends and clip them.
and you're using the world grid, of course youre going to have terrible design issues trying to stick to it if you ever do more than very square structures

[heavy pine]

There's still going to be clipping but the trick I've used for that is to put down a beam and then align foundations to that.

My FICSMAS plans call for 902 gift-generating trees by the time I'm done. That's a lot of wood.

[leaden turret]

PSA: Issue resolved

[wintry carbon]

is the ficsmas only for a month or can you build also after that?

[dense violet]

to the 17th I think?

prob mentions it in the wiki

[obtuse nova]

How long does the Christmas gift box event last? What will I be able to do with them and where?

[gentle lion]

Yt video he said Dec 1 to Jan 18th

[obtuse nova]

What is the link to the YouTube channel?

[wintry carbon]

yeah its a temp thing, but there is a mod you can play it later too. so no worries.

[wicked nacelle]

if you're on pc you can mod to .... yeah

but honestly there's not much content so unless you just don't play during the time it's normally on you're going to be able to play through it. it's like 2 hours of content unless you go wild decorating

[wintry carbon]

dont want to stop working on current stuff cause of ficsmas. will build later a ficsmas map using mod.

[wicked nacelle]

well it's not like most of the content is unlocked until like 3 weeks in. it's a really slow drip

but yeah, a mod is great to play when and how you want

https://ficsit.app/mod/FicsmasEveryday

[dire harness]

I think after the last update the game is even less stable.. I've been having crashes.. I've verified my files.. and now my dedi server just crashed too :[

[ivory condor]

https://www.youtube.com/@CoffeeStainStudios

[abstract heron]

ITS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FICMAS TIME

Bug already i can't get the numbers

the calender is not working 100%

But i already have it in that world already i just want my item that i want in it then go

[dark crater]

happy fiscmas

[dark crater]

want help with the 1st?

i found it like 10 mins ago

[abstract heron]

i found it already but i can't get to it

[dark crater]

relaunch?

altho 1 question

[abstract heron]

go on

[dark crater]

if i change my computers time

will i be able to redeem them early?

[abstract heron]

IDK i am trying to figure this out

[dark crater]

btw its on the cup tickmarks hat

i forgor his name

[abstract heron]

ya ik but its not letting me in my world idk why

[dark crater]

no

noNONONONOONNONONONO

HOW MANY HOURS DID YOU PUT IN IT

[abstract heron]

in my world

[dark crater]

YES

THE ONE YOU CANT GET INTO

[hallow crow]

so like when are we getting different animations per recipe for the machines, for example the manufacturer always is seen making super computers, would be nice to actually see it making the recipe

[abstract heron]

about 4,091hr

[dark crater]

dude

i think either 1 its corrupted

[abstract heron]

Total ammount 17,805 hrs on record

[dark crater]

or 2 your at the point that it takes like an eternity to get through

[abstract heron]

@ivory condor What have u done

[dark crater]

im PRAYING its the latter

going offline rq

[ivory condor]

Look most people don't put 4k hours into a save file so lord knows what has happened

[abstract heron]

no i meant number 1 is not working

[ivory condor]

huh?

[abstract heron]

let me try my non modded save

on ficmas calender it anit working

[severe cliff]

when is ficmas dropping?

[abstract heron]

at Dec 1st 12am

[hallow crow]

i have it rn

its 5AM for me on dec 1st

[severe cliff]

so 20 minutes ago?

[abstract heron]

now it works

[severe cliff]

not on console yet?

[abstract heron]

yes on console too

[ivory condor]

has been for a while now

#announcements message

[abstract heron]

That might be a bug if u already have done it it worked where i have not yet completed the event for ficmas

[ivory condor]

So it has been out for basically a month now on console

[abstract heron]

i don't have a console to test it

[ivory condor]

me either and no plans to get a console also

pc master race

[abstract heron]

All the numbers are already done on my one thats already done from last year

is that a bug or not

[compact flicker]

Merry Ficmas! :3

[ivory condor]

idk it should in theory be reset

[abstract heron]

Mine did not but frankly i have a mod which does ficmas every day

[dark crater]

ez

[abstract heron]

made a QA post

[ivory condor]

so your calendar is already done interesting, maybe there is a way to reset it somehow

[abstract heron]

Yes i made a QA post

on here should i tag guru?

[ivory condor]

Maybe because you broke ficmas

[abstract heron]

I BROKE IT!

[ivory condor]

just kidding probably some issue that is preventing it from reseting and its not your fault....this time....

[limpid inlet]

is 20 steel rotors a minute any good?

[abstract heron]

what is your main thing with them depo space or something else

i am making atm 101.25 HMF per minute

[limpid inlet]

Motors

[abstract heron]

They sure use them

i am making factorys of factorys making every thing for the factory and my depo

[abstract heron]

it might be cause i did it last year and the game is like no we hate u already did it

OH ben is online

Ben save us and trying not to ping him 😛

[ivory condor]

Something tells me Ben isnt the one to save your save file

[abstract heron]

i already did the event I JUST want a reward but its not letting me do it again 🙁

[median geyser]

CAn the christmas event mess with lizard dogs?

[abstract heron]

A way of they look but i won't say what

[median geyser]

and/or can they despawn after being tamed and trapped?

Ive had one at my base since I started this save, amd he appears to have disappeared 🙁

He was boxed in with foundations, so definitely not :/

and my world is set to peaceful, so there shouldnt be any "accidents"

How do I find out which version Im playing? I may be playing an ethically acquired copy of the game while I wait for funds to buy it proper 😂

[wicked nacelle]

it's on the screen while you're playing.

it's also on the menu screen

[median geyser]

CL#somethingsomethingsomething?

[wicked nacelle]

yep

[median geyser]

Which version is 424353? is there an easy way to check?

He does appear to be underground according to the scim. Is there a way of getting him back up?

[buoyant heath]

How does these Christmas boxes work? I've collected like 300 but the MAM won't allow me to research anything..

[kindred peak]

go to the youtube channel and watch the most recent video, explains everything

[buoyant heath]

Okie dokie

[white dawn]

Check your HUB for an advent calendar; you can unlock every day up to the current day (so, at the moment, just the first one)

It will occasionally give you a special item which is required to progress in the MAM

Note that it takes a little while for the event to get going; on the first few days there's actually not a whole lot to do

(also I wouldn't recommend spending a huge amount of time manually collecting gifts, unless you're finding the experience enjoyable for its own sake. :)

[crisp mortar]

Can someone please explain coordinates to me? Im trying to find a drop pod from a steam forum page and I see 4 sets of numbers

[wicked nacelle]

I only know of one basic set -- there's the number on the map in game and the same number (but multiplied by 100) in scim

also if you want to be told where the drop pods are just use scim don't worry about forum pages: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3;49935;18677|gameLayer|hardDrives

if you're on PC you can point it at your save and it will grey out all the ones you've already gotten, too

[crisp mortar]

On console

[flint lion]

Bit random but do we get to keep all the FICSMAS cosmetics after the events over

[wicked nacelle]

no

it all just disappears like a mod that you unloaded

[wicked nacelle]

so anyhow that link will still work you just have to figure out which ones you still need

it also tells you which resource (if any) is required to open it

[wicked nacelle]

if you're on PC there's a mod that keeps it enabled all year

[flint lion]

Ohh alright thank you

[earnest bluff]

Do i need World grid for train station

[flint lion]

Sadly on ps5 haha

[wicked nacelle]

ahh yeah then you only get to enjoy it for the time it's around.

[wicked nacelle]

"need"? no. If you want it just build aligned foundations and build it on foundations -- it's best to build on foundations (aligned or otherwise) anyhow so you can get flat space for all the platforms to sit evenly on

[earnest bluff]

Okay then it was mb i couldnt place train station tysn

[crisp mortar]

Im looking for alclad sheets as I kinda locked myself from getting the other aluminum stuff since im trying to get the containers I need for the turbo feel

[wicked nacelle]

turbo fuel doesn't need aluminum containers, right?

it uses plastic ones (or steel with the alt)

gases use aluminum containers I think

[crisp mortar]

No but in order to unlock the recipes I need the liquid container thing

[median geyser]

Plastic for turbo fuel

Or do you mean rocket fuel? that needs empty gas canisters to unlock i think?

[wicked nacelle]

what recipe are you trying to unlock?

[crisp mortar]

Rocket fuel

My b

[wicked nacelle]

why are you trying to unlock rocket fuel before you have aluminum? You can't make it until you're way past basic aluminum

you have to have nitrogen to make rocket fuel and that unlocks in advanced aluminum which requires aluminum to get to

[sullen gull]

How do you figure?

Ahh ok

[wicked nacelle]

!wikisearch rocket fuel

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rocket+fuel

[sullen gull]

Forgot about when/where nitrogen unlocks. Don't actually need anything from aluminum to "make" it (unless packaged)

[wicked nacelle]

@crisp mortar so.. just go make an aluminum plant. Even a small one will get you lots of aluminum AND you'll get mk5 belts which are great. Really fast and they're WAY easier to make a lot of than mk4 belts

[crisp mortar]

Advanced aluminum production needs 400 aluminum sheets in order to unlock

And I cant choose anything else until I finish this

[wicked nacelle]

you can change any of your HUB research selections whenver you want -- or maybe I don't undersatnd what you meant

but anyhow the best approach is to just make your own aluminum now 🙂

[crisp mortar]

How? I never found the option

[sullen gull]

You can find that much around harddrives 😏

[wicked nacelle]

you just click a new one

and anything youo've already put in for the previous unlock stays there for when you go back to it later

[crisp mortar]

Omfg I'm dumb...I just pressed L1

[wicked nacelle]

oh yeah I don't know controller controls

oops wrong @

[abstract heron]

i added something to the QA post 😄

[wicked nacelle]

I'm confused. If you can unlock advanced aluminum then do you already have aluminum unlocked? Also ifyou've unlocked aluminum you can BUY stacks of alclad with coupons

you don't need to search crash sites for it

[crisp mortar]

I tried to skip ahead before doing anything in tier 7

[wicked nacelle]

oh, well basic aluminum (Bauxite Refinement is the actual name) doesn't require aluminum then you can just buy the aluminum

[proud roost]

FICSMASSSS

[somber monolith]

Is ficsmas out?

[wicked nacelle]

also, just making turbo fuel and burning that is a great intermediary step for fuel power and you'll likey want to use the turbo fuel to make the rocket fuel anyhow. so it's both an investment in now and for the future. You COULD use Nitro Rocket Fuel but I prefer the vanilla recipes because the recycling loop is really nice

[wicked nacelle]

midnight local time. If your computer says "dec 1" then it's out

[sullen gull]

Should be

[somber monolith]

Nice

[wicked nacelle]

not for west coast/hawaii/alaska

[somber monolith]

They don’t deserve it

[proud roost]

bro ive been grindin

[abstract heron]

Over there its not Dec 1st 😛

[proud roost]

i almost have 10 candy cane bashers💀

[wicked nacelle]

nobody asked you mr "I have ficsmas"

[proud roost]

u dont have it?

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1444949739312517140/image.png?ex=692e91cf&is=692d404f&hm=c46785a7c0b0a374e41ead5b9c3584b288c7e28037deab8c2a357bd091e0f002&

[proud roost]

oh RIP

[versed cosmos]

are rails that are straight and with fewer turns faster?

[wicked nacelle]

yes but not a super ton - not enough to really worry about

the only thing that really hurts train speed is overcrowded intersections/junctions where they have to stop and wait for other trains to go

because then you can't even add more trains -- because you'll just cause more congestion

[abstract heron]

If i need it more i can up it more 😛

[dense violet]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[sharp basin]

Mk2&3 blueprints are unlocked when?

[dense violet]

!wikisearch

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=

[feral dragon]

How do you unlock the mam-tree for ficsmas? Google says place a gift in the first window but it doesn't work

[hard ivy]

Tier 6 and 9?

You could've just checked the wiki, you know

[severe cliff]

on the ficsmas calendar open the first hidden door

[sharp basin]

I know I have that habit to ask people first reflex

May be because I’m OLD

I’m not that old I’m 40

[tough swift]

What does one do when ficsmas advent calendar is full blue

[clear aspen]

Has anyone here seen darling in the franxx?

[severe cliff]

so i gotta wait til day 4 to continue down the mam tree?

[hard ivy]

That's how Ficsmas usually works

Unless you already did it last year on that save

[severe cliff]

thx first time for us console players

[tough swift]

You could always change time and date but that's not very jolly

[dense violet]

what about it?

[clear aspen]

What’s that?

[north summit]

I officially have 3 working trains on the track I’m so proud of my rail system

[clear aspen]

The anime’s I’ve watched are jjk, demon slayer, BNA, CYBERPUNK Edgerunners, and just completed guran lagan

[dense violet]

some well known titles

[hard ivy]

How is this satisfactory related, pray tell?

[clear aspen]

BNA is not well known twin

[clear aspen]

I refuse to use off topic it’s more dead than my self esteem

[reef basin]

It's dead because people are writing here

[clear aspen]

Hmm

Im also just really stubborn

[reef basin]

And #rules exist 🙂

[clear aspen]

Just read them, I don’t see a rule stating that I need to follow channel specifics, it’s just reccemended

[reef basin]

Some channels may have specific rules. Please check the pins/channel description before using them.

and for this channel:

This channel is for discussions related to Satisfactory.

[clear aspen]

Also checked the pins, nowhere does it state to use off topic

Danm it

3:

[north summit]

I’m going to have to make a secondary rail system

Or maybe a truck system or something

Having trouble getting the materials needed for polyester fabric for nuclear suit to my main factory and having trouble getting the coal and iron for gas masks to my refinerery

So mini train system best bet maybe

Idk

[dense violet]

are you running two lanes?

[north summit]

Currently just one track with 9 freight stations and 3 trains

I’m probably going to have to build a second lane

[buoyant veldt]

If I turned Ficsmas off for a while would I be able to resume where I left off? I think the sparkly beacons on the airdropped presents are causing performance issues on my PC.

[north summit]

With separate things

Does ficsmas offer anything good for the factory

[dense violet]

yeah do two lanes, single lane throughput is murdered once you have more than 1 train on it

there's a reason why roads and rail irl generally run 2 way

[reef basin]

(and also, there's a reason why rails don't have cloverleafs or roundabouts)

[feral dragon]

What? Where is the calendar?

[dense violet]

hub

[wicked nacelle]

while running a highway-style 2 lane system seems intimidating at first it's WAY simpler than trying to figure out essentially custom rules for running multiple trains on what people naively think are simpler rail setups. Once you know the highway rules for trains in this game you can expand it as big as you want and never have to worry about any new situations you have to account for

[reef basin]

in the second most important building of the game

[severe cliff]

in the hub

[north summit]

Ye I’m definitely going to have to restart my factory soon again too

[dense violet]

something else that is happening is I'd hazzard a guess you aren't buffering your platforms either

[north summit]

I’m definitely not as efficient as needed by phase 4

[feral dragon]

Thanks 🙂

[reef basin]

even a bad factory is better than no factory, just build new and keep old

[north summit]

Yea don’t think so

[dense violet]

when you get back to redoing your rail ask someone how to buffer things properly 🙂 it's simple but critical

[north summit]

My rails do get everything to where they need to go the issue is adding more than 8 or 9 freight carts rn

So far on my track I have uhhh

Plastic rubber quick wire aluminum plates baxuite quartz

Uhhhh

Something else

SAM that’s right

[wicked nacelle]

that's a really long train. generally running more shorter trains is better at least for a more complex rail system. though if you're not running it bidirectionally you can just add more engines at the back but facing the same as the front one -- more power but it doesn't change how the train lines up vs the stations

but if your train is bidrectional then you're kinda SOL for adding more engines without adjuting your stations as well and then changing your timetables on the trains

[north summit]

Yeah I just have one directional and like 3 long ahh trains

For now

[wicked nacelle]

like a big circle basically?

[north summit]

Pretty much

More like a racetrack kinda

It spans like half the map

[wicked nacelle]

yeah if you need another engine, put it at the back but facing the same way as the one in the front

[north summit]

See I didn’t know more engines = more power

[hard ivy]

Also, fyi, the most traffic efficient setup is setting the trains to only depart when empty/full. And that requires one item type per train (not necessarily one train per item type, you can use more)

[north summit]

That’s huge

[wicked nacelle]

not sure what problem you had adding more cars, but if you're doing any hills, more engines can get you unstuck on hills if you're too heavy

[north summit]

Just me being stupid basically

[clear mesa]

Are the FICSMAS candy canes currently uncraftable for anybody else? I researched them in the MAM, got candy canes and bows, just cant get the recipe in an assembler

[reef basin]

well if you didn't get the recipe, you obv cannot craft them yet

[wicked nacelle]

stuff unlocks slowly over time -- but I don't know specifically when that unlocks -- the early days the unlocks are PAINFULLY slow

[clear mesa]

Yeah I was just confused considering I researched it on the MAM and it was one of the rewards, I can view the recipe in the codex just not have any access to it

[clear mesa]

I assumed that may be the issue but this is my first FICSMAS so I asked anyways, thank you :)

[wicked nacelle]

if you're on pc you can get a mod that just unlocks it if you'd like. but otherwise you'll just have to be patient. Like.. maybe don't even mess with ficsmas every day. wait a few days and then unlock a few days at once.

[clear mesa]

Yeah i'm on PC but I think i'll leave it, first one anyways so I have no rush to complete, just wanted to make sure I'm not doing anything wrong

[wicked nacelle]

You can't do anything wrong 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

don't go here unless you want spoilers: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/FICSMAS but super mini spoiler: day 2 is: Crafting: Candy Cane out of FICSMAS Gift

[clear mesa]

Ah, appreciate it actually thank you

[north summit]

Sometimes I’m just slow with my solutions to issues in my factory

I have to sit on them and think on them for a while but when I get them I always remember and implement asap

Like my issue with the trains previously

[merry granite]

yeah, why

[wicked nacelle]

@north summit if you like using trains it's REALLY worth it to put in the time to learn how to make a 2-rail track system. It's an incredibly powerful tool and you can just tell any train to go directly from any spot to any other spot on your rail system.

[clear aspen]

Is it good?

[merry granite]

yeah

im just some dude though im sure you can find other reviews online

[clear aspen]

Alr I’m asking in another server and they said they regretted every min watching it

[wicked nacelle]

@north summit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw8ngs--7o this is a really good video about them BUT there are some bugs with signals so if you see the "signal loops on itself" error message come here and ask about it 🙂

[merry granite]

oh alright

well everyones' got their opinions, this is offtopic though but i thought it was pretty good

[north summit]

Sweet

Ty

I just kinda figured trains are more efficient than conveyors to a certain point

What that point is idk

I could just start belting everything across the map and create a massive sky platform

As my factory

[fluid sapphire]

rail is reusable, for every new line of resource you would need a new conveyor

[north summit]

True I can just branch off new rails

[dense violet]

honestly rail is easy when you look into it a bit and get some info

[fluid sapphire]

conveyors also only go one way, rail is easy to build 2-way

[north summit]

For trains

[wicked nacelle]

if you make your rail the way they show towards the end of that video you get the ability to make a new factory and just build a small amount of rail and suddenly you have access to EVERYTHING on all the rest of your rail everywhere

All you do is make a new train tell it "go get me some plastic" and boom you have plastic at your new factory

[north summit]

Sounds delicious

[wicked nacelle]

it's not super powerful at first -- but the more and more you connect the more and more powerful it is. And the theoretical throughput of a section of rail is worth hundreds of belts. (I just made that up but it wouldn't surprise me if it's pretty close for a long train of cars full of 500-stack items)

[north summit]

Bet

I love chatting it up here while I’m at work

Definitely gonna watch that video rn since I got nothing beyter to do plus I’m paid

[exotic pilot]

the bow looks awfully close to the pi symbol

[exotic condor]

I am somewhat sad the ||calendar doesn't at least reset|| for existing worlds, I was hoping we would at least get ||a few rewards for the calendar if we already had the necessary materials to be up and running with Ficsmas, even if they were the same ones.|| Maybe next year.

[wicked nacelle]

is it unlocked on the account - so even on a new save? (i'm not at pc to test)

[exotic condor]

I don't know I haven't tried my other worlds.

[wicked nacelle]

I'll remote desktop in and check

yeahh appears to be locked on my newer save that I didn't do ficsmas in last year

[exotic condor]

It's not account wide

I just tested with my OLD save I never did FICSMAS in.

[wicked nacelle]

MAYBE there's some setting in scim? I don't know but if it's in the save file then presumably scim could understand it if it were programmed in

[wicked yew]

Can someone help, trying to figure out the giant ficsmas tree upgrade 1 requirements got the bows and canes but the data thing doesn't show up anywhere, the day 1 one didn't work, does it need day 2 or whatever

[leaden turret]

it's not possible to complete everthing all at once

!wikisearch ficsmas

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ficsmas

[wicked yew]

Dammit, i wanted to get the gift tree up and running xD

[wicked yew]

Thanks for the link bud

[leaden turret]

I should clarify, it's not intended to complete everything all at once.

-# coughalteringthesystemdatecough

[wicked yew]

That works?! 😁

[leaden turret]

it apparently has in the past

<@&370483737957236737> PC users have the option to use mods once the event ends to allow them to play with FICSMAS past the intended end date, have y'all considered adding an option in seasonal events to enable out-of-season play under AGS?

[void gorge]

Not in consideration nope

[wicked yew]

It worked

[north summit]

Holy crap I just had an idea

What if I set up a train rail system that delivers rocket fuel to multiple stations that then provide power to a set amount of generators for power

On a separate railway system

Than the main one

[hard ivy]

a terrible idea indeed

[north summit]

Fair

[fluid sapphire]

that sounds like a lot of work for no gain at all?

why wouldnt you just burn the fuel where you make it

[north summit]

Too much bottleneck?

[leaden turret]

-# belt all the things

[hard ivy]

no, just... why?

[fluid sapphire]

there is not much advantage to having anything other than a global power grid (except maybe some off-grid power storage)

[north summit]

I don’t know if it’s just my pumps or how I set up my generators but my fuel feels bottlenecked

Sorta

I need to add more generators

[hard ivy]

why would putting it on a train help???

[fluid sapphire]

check your numbers

[north summit]

Hmmm

[fluid sapphire]

if numbers add up, its probably a piping issue, in which case #1038092680493801533

[hard ivy]

also, you can very easily check what the issue is by looking into the generators and the machines producing the fuel. no need to guess

[north summit]

Mostly just thinking for like longer distance movement or something

I don’t know

Lomg movement stations witj multiple genetatord per station

Like idk how to explain

[wicked yew]

One other question, what's the best thing to sink from the ficsmas event?

First timer here

[north summit]

But that was my thought process ljke a super power station with tons of generators and less pupes

To deal with

[fluid sapphire]

there really is no advantage to shipping out fuel only to burn it elsewhere

[hard ivy]

Well, except nuclear fuel

[mellow goblet]

^

[fluid sapphire]

sure, i thought we were talking about fuel fuel, nuclear is a different animal entirely

[hard ivy]

Yeah, yeah, there's no reason to ship coal or any of the fuel gen's fuels only to burn them in the end

But nuclear fuel really should be burned over an ocean or a sufficiently large lake. Otherwise it's an absolute fucking nightmare

[ivory condor]

But what your suggesting is giving yourself more to deal with, as others have mentioned there is no real reason to not setup generators where your making the fuel, in the same area and burn it, as there is little advantage if anything to having isolated power grids also

[severe cliff]

why’d a ficsmas gift j blow me straight to hell

[hard ivy]

Shouldn't've let it land on your head then

[severe cliff]

i didn’t i picked it up and it blew me away literally

[hard ivy]

Did you try to pick up a nobelisk "gift"

[severe cliff]

i mean it said totally normal gift how am i supposed to know it’ll kill me

[hard ivy]

finds a bomb with a bow

literally called "totally normal gift"

expects a normal Ficsmas gift

[severe cliff]

well when you put it like that

[hard ivy]

At least you got some actual useful explosives out of it I think?

[severe cliff]

yea but had to run back like 1000 meters lmao

[ivory condor]

If they did they didn't survive the experience

Ada truly hates this time of year, no wonder she is literally trying to kill us

be like here enjoy this gift thats literally a nuke that is going explode right in your face as soon as you try to pickup

[hard ivy]

the wiki says it's not even a nuke, it's instakill with a nuke animation

[ivory condor]

[hard ivy]

though I'm not sure if there'd be a difference between the 2 for the person picking it up

[ivory condor]

well probably the wiki is stating technically what happens

but from the players perspective, its basically death by a nuke blowing up in your face, but that would be a normal from a explosion going right front of you, noway you would be alive after that

[hard ivy]

I wonder if it it's actually coded differently from just spawning and triggering a nuke

cause if it is an instakill, then I wonder if it has a range or if it's only for the person picking it up

because it would be funny if one person could stand on it while another one opens it and the first one would be bine

[ivory condor]

that sounds like it would be a fun experiment

i really wonder what would happen hmmm

i would naturally expect anybody within the blast range to all die, but maybe it doesnt work the way i think

[fickle maple]

is satisfactory worth buying

[tall lantern]

you ask in the server full of people who enjoy the game enough to join a server for it... think you're gonna get mildly biased answers 😛

[ivory condor]

noway this game is literally unplayable

stares at the 4.4k hours in satisfactory on steam, yes its very unplayable indeed

[tall lantern]

yeah in terms of pure hours per ${currency} you can definitely get a lot of mileage if you vibe with it

[ivory condor]

currently at $0.006 per hour

[hardy moat]

theres so many gifts falling 😩

[fickle maple]

idk i just wanna know if its hard to understand

[green fiber]

im only at $0.0085 per hour

[green fiber]

you can expect a lot of yes-es and a few ironic "no absolutely not, dogshit game" said by people with like 5k hours on the game

I think the game is worth buying if you enjoy the building process of games like minecraft

[tall lantern]

The whole of the main progression line is basically one big tutorial

and this server exists if you do get stuck on something

(though I'd advise properly trying to solve it yourself first, give it some good thought)

[unkempt blade]

Nah it's easy to understand. The answer is always factory carts and sometimes trains

[fickle maple]

it looks very confusing

[tall lantern]

so does any game if you start at the end

it's very good at onboarding, as long as you pay attention to what the game tries to teach

[unkempt blade]

A lot of people make it sweatier than it needs to be too. If you make stuff run but don't worry about "perfect" it's pretty simple

[fluid sapphire]

the early game experience, while slow, is kind of magical

not sure i have ever experienced "the world is your oyster" in any other game as much as this one, it truly feels like its full of possibilities

[fickle maple]

any tips if i do buy it

[fluid sapphire]

go your own way at the start, and once you feel like you have some grips, watch a video on controls

divide and conquer, divide your work into small steps

[fickle maple]

is it better if i build it like a cube

[fluid sapphire]

dont even worry about it, its normal to have a spaghetti mess at first

[tall lantern]

• pay attention to what the game teaches
• don't be afraid to expand, you won't stay localised in one place for long
• avoid copy-pasting other people's work (directly or by watching videos)
• try and solve problems yourself, but #1038092680493801533 can help if you get truly stuck
• beware of belt/pipe throughput limits

[mortal ginkgo]

So I wanted to take a small step into a cave to get a somersloop.

I was being cute and cuddly. Minding my business.

6 Large Stingers DISAGREED IN A RUDE MANNER BROTHERMAN

[reef basin]

don't listen to youtubers (or practically anyone), play the game on your own pace and in your own style. Only come here if you're truly stuck on a problem, otherwise make your own decisions based on your own preferences

[fickle maple]

okay thanks guys

[fluid sapphire]

some people play fast and finish in 100-150 hours, or even less, but the game isnt a sprint, its a marathon

you can easily take 1000+ hours to finish if you take it chill

i think its more fun that way anyway

[tall lantern]

a couple more...

• Foundations are great, use them
• Verticality is also good, can expand upwards as well as outwards

and yeah, don't need to rush at all

[fluid sapphire]

building vertically in the very early game is annoying

[north summit]

Is there a max amount of freight carts per train

[modern vale]

get the ladder

[fluid sapphire]

at minimum you need the jetpack

[modern vale]

just get the ladder from the shop

[fluid sapphire]

its a lot of effort building with ladders

[tall lantern]

I just use ramps

[north summit]

Bladerunnwrs + minecraft jump with 4 m foundations

[tall lantern]

per engine, the recommendation is 4 carriages per engine, though depending on the route and the load you can get away with more carriages

per full train, not a practical one

[fluid sapphire]

steel is pretty early into the game (the point where you get the jetpack), i really dont think its worth the effort to screw around with ladders

[modern vale]

uh, I think you mean 4 carriages per engine???

[modern vale]

also what??? you get the jetpack past phase 2, and steel is only in phase 1

[tall lantern]

lol yes fixed

unless you want a train with really good acceleration I guess

[fluid sapphire]

sure, my point is that building vertically before getting the jetpack isnt necessary whatsoever

[tall lantern]

pfft, jetpack's phase 3, I start vertical in phase 1 (stack the rotors/RIPs/modular frames)

easy enough to just build a couple ramps

[fluid sapphire]

eh, its easier not to

space is no concern that early

[tall lantern]

you're right that it's not necessary, but technically given the size of the world it's never necesary 😛

[fluid sapphire]

builds get larger as you progress, usually

[tall lantern]

my point is just that the jetpack isn't required for it

[fluid sapphire]

never said it was, just said its more effort than its worth imo

[modern vale]

I cant post pictures here, uh check what I sent in #design-and-architecture

I did that with a ladder and a parachute

[unkempt blade]

one huge cube is best and you want to use lots of factory carts inside of the cube

[modern vale]

really, its not that hard

[fluid sapphire]

nothing in this game is hard, just time consuming

[modern vale]

its the fun kind of time consuming

[tall lantern]

funnily enough this is a great example of why you should make your own decisions rather than blindly copy others. Everyone's got their own opinions, if you just copy then you're forcing yourself down one route, rather than finding out what you prefer

[shy mulch]

Challenge accepted 😂

If you think verticality is NEVER needed, then you haven't seen some of the biggest builds

[fluid sapphire]

past a certain point flat builds only work as sky platforms, personally i dont like sky platforms at all

[modern vale]

one of ImKibitz (did I spell that correctly?) builds was just covering a biome in concrete and using zero verticality whatsoever

[shy mulch]

My endgame factory wouldn't fit on that

[modern vale]

So yeah, everyone has their own playstyle unique to them, and we should all build in a way we ourselves want. But, we can all agree on one thing: FICSMAS is a waste of time

[shy mulch]

I love ficsmas

[modern vale]

on that note, how do you disable ficsmas again?

[tall lantern]

seaonal events

[hard ivy]

The map is 50 km². I think you can fit anything any computer can physically handle on one 50 km² layer

[ornate cairn]

Is there a site to filter for mk2 blueprints + alt recipes? I just unlocked aluminum and want to find a efficient way to start the factory with sloppy alu + pure alu ingot so i can skip Silicia. This is so confusing

[coarse path]

@brave marsh how did you get so meany tickets?

for the golden nut

[tall lantern]

sink erryting

if you play long enough and have overflow sinks on everything you'll rack up plenty

[brave marsh]

meany? i assure you i've been a very nice girl. it is ficsmas season after all!!

anyway i just play in a dedicated server with a friend and it's set to always be online

for the most part we're sinking 2 nuclear pasta per minute and spread that across weeks and it's inevitable for the coupons to pile up

so yeah i'm not the right person to ask if you want it to be Satisfactory™

[hard ivy]

Why does blueprint size matter?

You can use http://satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production for recipe choices and calculations

[ornate cairn]

It seems that ever blueprint i download on satisfactory planner is for mk3 blueprinter. I need a aluminum factory blueprint now tho and havent unlocked the big one yet

[hard ivy]

Make one yourself?

Also, if you're downloading, the size doesn't matter unless you want to edit it

[ornate cairn]

I havent used any blueprints yet and i says its to big for the one i have now. I just want to download a rly good efficient aluminum blueprint that is scalable to make my life easier with this step

[brave marsh]

you can just place the blueprint down, you don't have to load it in your blueprint designer

unless you need to edit it first

[ornate cairn]

Ahh lol, i never checked that. That helps alot thanks 😅

[hard ivy]

And the "efficient" setups don't really fit even in a mk3, unless split into several BPs

[fluid sapphire]

if you are using sloppy and pure, whats confusing?

[hard ivy]

Because a perfectly ratioed all alt setup requires 7 refineries and 20 smelters (and a VIP or an 8th refinery)

[ornate cairn]

yes thats also what im searching. I thought there has to be some giga brain that has a rly nice guide with several blueprints i can just copy. But kinda hard to find idk

[hard ivy]

Like I said, make one yourself XD

[ornate cairn]

i tend to fuck up and make it not scalable

[tall lantern]

"build a copy of it" is scaling

belt/pipe limits will, well, limit how much you can chain into one thing

[fluid sapphire]

i didnt bother recycling the water in any way myself, just fed the initial refineries whatever water they needed and used the waste water to make iron and copper ingots

kablammo, zero complexity involved

[hard ivy]

Eh, unless the Devs fix them, VIPs are a perfect solution

We'll find out in a few months whether they'll exist forever or not

Because if they're gonna fix them, it's probably gonna be 1.2

[reef basin]

perfect solution isn't player dependent 😛

[dense violet]

just process each belt of bauxite on it's own

why would you fix an exploit?

[severe cliff]

weirdly i insta died like 2 seconds b4 the explosive even went off

[stiff spindle]

Oof ficsmas fail indeed for anyone who did it last year lmao...

Unless there is a fix I've not seen here?...

[south siren]

Are we getting a christmas update this year...... Build the tree thingy?

[hardy moat]

its out now

[reef basin]

no update needed for that

[south siren]

Hurray a christmas miracle

[hardy moat]

im building tracks on blueprints and im getting spammed

[shy mulch]

But then you're in sky platform territory which isn't really any better

[stiff spindle]

Yeah if you're playin from an old save that had the event last year, the ficsmas calander doesn't work this year...

[hard ivy]

But it doesn't have multiple vertical layers so verticality is not required

[shy mulch]

That's maybe semantic. If you're building off the ground I think that counts as verticality

[steel kelp]

Verticality means building your factories up instead of outward. If you place a layer of foundations above the ground and then build out from them, you’re not really going vertical

[unkempt blade]

unlike horizontalism which means paving the entire worlds

[steel kelp]

Exactly

[unkempt blade]

and the happy medium/best of both worlds of diagonology which is building only on ramp foundations

[hard ivy]

I don't think building a factory off the ground counts as "using verticality"

[ripe moat]

howdy all, got any tips for making building out trainlines a bit easier?

figured out building along the ground to be a bit terrible

[unkempt blade]

I'd make a pillar blueprint of some sort for rails to go on if you're not going full on skyroad with it

ground level is mostly ok but it will look like it's inside the terrain sometimes more than others

[ripe moat]

oh yeah i've played nearly 300 hours and havent touched blueprints yet

i really should check it out lol

[steel kelp]

This is perverted

[steel kelp]

If you make a decent blueprint for your rails, you can easily build a rail around the map in 2 hours using the blueprint auto connect mode

[ripe moat]

tbh i kinda miss the relative simplicity of building in factorio haha

[reef basin]

if building was that simple in this game, you'd complete it in 5 hours, run into object limit and the game would play very badly 😛

[nocturne cairn]

Satisfactory (allegedly) only has 5 hours of gameplay, the rest is padded out by bad building mechanics

[ripe moat]

oh yeah for sure! i'm just complaining at this point cause it's way easier than running my thinker trying to plan how i'm gonna build my rails haha

it's unironically a daunting task to consider how everything is gonna be run so it looks decent and won't get in the way...

[ripe moat]

every building/logistics game has a theoretically exponential amount of gameplay to me due to my extensive procrastination!

93 hours into my second save and i'm almost at the point i was on my first save which clocked in around 140 hours (started a new one cause that one was from way before 1.0 release)

i'm so freaking happy that i decided to build bases around the map this time since it ended up as such a CLUSTER on my first map

[pliant smelt]

How do I start the Christmas event? I've got the presents but the research tree isn't unlocked

[zenith pecan]

Don't remind me of the object limit, I'm always violating that 🤣

[ripe moat]

wait that flew over my head, whats the object limit?

[zenith pecan]

2162688 objects, keep in mind some machines can be 3 or 4 objects.

[solar oar]

is anybodies ficsmas tree also not appearing?

[ripe moat]

how do i check it?

[pliant smelt]

I'm not sure, where is it supposed to appear?

[solar oar]

MAM

[zenith pecan]

There is no actual way to check, you usually get a game crash citing UObject blah blah.

[zenith pecan]

Should be presents falling from the sky, and a ficsmas catagory will show in the MAM.

[pliant smelt]

The tree is still locked for me for some reason

[solar oar]

for me it just doesnt appear

[zenith pecan]

Are your seasonal events turned off?

[solar oar]

no

[ripe moat]

ohh okay so i'll probably not hit it for a LONG while considering my old save had about a moons worth of surface area with foundations

[zenith pecan]

I'm loading mine to make sure.

[zenith pecan]

Most people never hit the limit, I do because I build like a madman and have a full scale network of tunnels under the map to boot.

[solar oar]

do i have to collect a specific amount of presents?

[zenith pecan]

Oh looks like dusting of snow in the aor too, in the desert haha, checking my mam now.

[heavy pine]

The presents will be used in crafting the various FICSMAS items, so you'll want to get a bunch.

[pliant smelt]

Hm maybe, I had the ada voice say something once I collected a few but the tree is still locked

[stiff spindle]

if you did event last year you have to go to equipment workbench to craft the items needed for MAM ficsmas research...

[zenith pecan]

Yeah, bottom of the mam shows the fiscmas holiday event, and my awesome shop has a red hat on it.

[solar oar]

this game man

[zenith pecan]

I'm gonna go power up the fiscmas factory 😄

[pliant smelt]

Im new to the game, I see the tree but everything I it is still locked

[solar oar]

i literally cant even get it man

i dont even see the tree

[ripe moat]

so it's kinda like the factorio's IPS (instruction per Second) thing where people who go HAM end up getting slowdown cause too much is happening...

i still havent run into issues with it on my factorio playthrough despite having tens of thousands of bots running around near constantly

[pliant smelt]

How many presents you collected?

[solar oar]

i dont know maybe like 11

[stiff spindle]

calander doesn't work sadly, meant to put that there lmao

[pliant smelt]

I'm gonna collect more, hopefully that'll fix both our issues idk

[zenith pecan]

Heck, I can't find the on switch for my old factory 🤣

[solar oar]

i think the ada is pointing toward us collecting more presents so i think we do

i have over 450 present bro

[pliant smelt]

I've got 200 and the "FISCMAS HOLIDAY EVENT" is still greyed out

"Unlock this research tree to access this node" HOWWWW

Oooh open the calendar in the hub

[pliant smelt]

Open the calendar in the HUB , it's not in the room it's near the crafting bench

[zenith pecan]

Ficsmas is back in my world #design-and-architecture message , trouble is, it's still a concrete box on the outside.

[pliant smelt]

And then open 1 on the calendar

[steel kelp]

Im about to build mine and i have no clue how im gonna design it

[zenith pecan]

You will need iron and copper for it so if you have nodes that you really don't care about, place the factory there.

[meager kiln]

not sure if the devs see this but Ficmas is amazing, not sure ill get through phase 3 today anymore but im loving this

[steel kelp]

Thats helpful ty

I want it to look like a gingerbread house

[zenith pecan]

Ahh, I realised why when I loaded another save, go into the hub, and open day one of the advent calendar, it'll give you the mam tree as a data cartridge.

[heavy pine]

FICSMAS is a good time. And I won't feel bad if ADA gets after me for observing it because I've completed project assembly in my current game.

[zenith pecan]

Part of my ficsmas setup, well a good 60% of it, is dedicated to manufacturing and storing snowballs.

[fluid sapphire]

Do all the produced items and built buildables stick around?

[zenith pecan]

Yes.

The ficsmas factory from last year in my save has just been powered back on 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

Great

[pliant smelt]

Do you need presents for most of the unlockables?

[white dawn]

Gifts form the basis for basically everything in the event, yes. But honestly don't spend too much time hand-gathering

[steel kelp]

As ive been doing other stuff I’ve accumulated like 3k presents but idk if i should save them