satisfactory

[sharp basin]

I got the feeling I’m playing the game wrong - I mean, there are thousands of ways to do things - but I’m Phase 2, so still early game, and I spend too much time designing. I mean designing factories that have a very, very low production, that I KNOW I’ll have to REDO later on, when I get better belts/etc… I think I should simplify for now, focus on production, progress through the Phases, and when I’ll have what I need, start to REALLY think about the designs/looks of my world.

[old bramble]

I just am trying to understand what dumbass mistake I’m making 😂

Like I still am very confused by piping mechanics.

[unkempt blade]

I didn't read the chat history but I'm assuming it's not enough factory carts

[old bramble]

Piping problem with fuel into 10 fuel generators.

[near thicket]

Do I need more than 6 Heavy Modular/m for build gun purposes?

[glad quest]

prob not

[dense violet]

it'll store up pretty fast

[sharp basin]

@dense violet what do you think bro?

[old bramble]

Now he’s an even more stupid question. How do I pause my single player game in a way that actually pauses the game?

[dense violet]

I think you're thinking too much while in the tutorial - just build and learn.

unles you enjoy all the redesigning and building?

[dense violet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[old bramble]

So I can’t pause this game at all? Why?

[dense violet]

no idea - probably due to processes?

pause it by saving and exiting to menu

or build a little box blueprint to sit in and be safe

[old bramble]

Yeah that’s what I do.

[sharp basin]

I do but I feel frustrated all the time because I feel my designs are poor and factory production is low

[sullen gull]

@old bramble This is a simple "loop" #screenshots message

[dense violet]

or ... just leave it running for a couple minutes while you walk off

[dense violet]

I don't know how to fix your brain sorry :\
I'd just keep pushign forward becaues every time you build a NEW factory you'll get better AND get new production.

instead of the same production

[old bramble]

That looks even more confusing lol. Does this mean I’m like brain dead?

[sharp basin]

Yeah you’re right I should keep it simple

[dense violet]

post an overhead image of your actual issue in #math-and-meta or any other channel yo ucan talk and post images in

[sullen gull]

Can neither confirm nor deny mate. Not sure what else to say without being able to see what you're working with. But from what you're describing, it's "pressure drop" from trying to feen along one straight manifold.

[sullen gull]

Yeah, tried, said they can't post screenshots 😒

[old bramble]

Yeah I’m not at my console right now. Sorry meant to reply yeah it’s definitely a pressure drop issue

[dense violet]

ah well when you do get a chance post in #math-and-meta or #1038092680493801533

it's often nearly impossible to diagnose pipes w/o seeing things - small simple mistakes you don't have experience in can easily be around and you just don't know what to look for 🙂

once you know the basics though you'll have a much easier time

[old bramble]

It’s just a long straight pipe line with a lot of junctions. So I’m assuming that is the cause of the issue. I just don’t understand how.

Next time I’m on I’ll post a screenshot to #1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

no stress 🙂 sometimes high flow pipes like 450+ also need a looped manifold? Could be the issue. Like the image linked to you. It can help stabalise back flow

[old bramble]

Yeah I only have MK1 pipes and my flow rate should be 200 fuel per minute.

[dense violet]

oh yeah something weirder is happening then xD

[old bramble]

I’m making enough fuel it’s just the piping mechanics I’m not understanding.

[native tapir]

Give up on pipes. Come climb the factory cart tower. You guys have about 15 hours left to do so😁

[dense violet]

yeah make the post later , I'm sure it's a quick fix

[native tapir]

If you're on pc, that is.

[old bramble]

Console

Let me grab some eggnog and I’ll load it up. The television is free for the moment.

[old bramble]

Alright post is made.

[meager kiln]

working phase 3, i already have all the parts to make mod engine, do i just hand feed? or worth it to build a new setup and leave my old setup doing w.e

[ocean frost]

hand feed for the unlock and automate for the next tier

[wicked nacelle]

it's quite reasonable to just hand feed until you unlock hoverpack

[reef basin]

both are valid

[zealous mesa]

Phase 3 is the most fun phase in my opinion

[meager kiln]

i think im gonna automate each one from scratch in its own building

i do liek this way of doing it. although i need to find a nice spot now, lets explore

[barren arch]

Why is there an ADA voiceline for when you eviscerate a bean with cluster nobelisks xDDD???

[glass pagoda]

I didn't realize how good power towers are until recently when I found out you dont connect it to the bottom port you connect it to the top

[glass pagoda]

Monster

[glass pagoda]

There is a voiceline for flushing the toilet in fact there are over 10

My favorite is "sadly you can not automate this"

[compact flicker]

There are several >:3

[glass pagoda]

The curves are beautiful one is peak

[barren arch]

yess

[glass pagoda]

How inappropriate. Tell me more

[compact flicker]

I like the one you get when unlocking trains
:3

[glass pagoda]

Same

[median geyser]

What's the point of a gate hole wall if the automated gate and roller door both just overlap it?

[leaden turret]

aesthetics

[median geyser]

So its just an open wall that looks neat?

[leaden turret]

yup

[magic vine]

hmm, should i reuse my empty canisters?

[reef basin]

depends on situation I guess

[ocean frost]

Most use cases you should what the situation?

[magic vine]

so, i got oil nodes making turbo fuel, and my turbofuel has to be transported to the main plant in the other side of the map, so, is it recommended to pack the turbofuel, send it to the plant then unpackage it and send it back?

[wicked nacelle]

presumably it's "I don' twant to" situation

[wicked nacelle]

I find it to be a fun challenge

[wicked nacelle]

why transport it? just burn it where you make it. For drones just have a drone go get it

[reef basin]

you can transport it as fluid

[magic vine]

it isnt as good tho

[reef basin]

what?

[magic nest]

pretty sure it’s not as efficient

[reef basin]

what do you mean by "efficient" lol. packaging takes power, so it's less efficient to package

[magic vine]

i mean, fluid transport trains carry less than an item train with packaged fluids

[wicked nacelle]

the best way to transport is to not transport

[magic nest]

depending on how tight your tolerance is it might just be easier to transport it in it’s fluid form however

[reef basin]

yeah but you need to transport canisters back, so it evens out

[wicked nacelle]

it doesn't even out.

[ocean frost]

its the same efficenty when you consider you need to transport the canisters back

[magic nest]

or just be a g and add more fluid carts

[wicked nacelle]

it's better to transport gases packaged including the return car -- and MUCH better with nitrogen

[magic vine]

hmm imma do it, should be fun

[magic nest]

saves you the plastic for better usage

[reef basin]

turbofuel is a liquid tho, not a gas (afaik)

[median geyser]

Has there always been a giant floating rock formation over the northeastern part of the map, or did I break something?

[wicked nacelle]

Sorry I was thinking rocket. Yes you’re right.

[reef basin]

so we're talking liquids, not gases

in the most common case, you use half the cars to move fluid one way and other half of cars to move canisters back, so it's the same as packaging it, just less power usage

you can optimise it more (reuse cars by having more stations, etc.), but that reduces throughput per train, so it has a tradeoff as well. And personally I wouldn't bother with packaging

[magic nest]

also depending on how much it is you are bringing just set up drones no?

if it’s no more than 3 drones i don’t see why not

[reef basin]

drones can't do fluids, so those require packaging

[ocean frost]

drones can't carry a lot

[magic nest]

yes i’m advocating for the packaging side

and i meant for the empty packaging not the fuel

[reef basin]

eh, unnecessary complication imo. Just put it on a train, or ideally not transport at all

[ocean frost]

but they are great for sending back the empty bottles

[cyan leaf]

How does the freight station work? Cause I can't get it to load my freight train car

[magic nest]

i tried to use the trains in my world to this day can’t figure it out

[reef basin]

fair, but then you also have to feed the drones and have multiple transport systems in places 🤷 but as I said above, anything is valid, my preference was explained, reasoning behind it as well 😉 choice is yours (or OP's or whoever is making the choice)

[magic nest]

i built the straightest train track from a to b and it still doesn’t work

[reef basin]

what does it say?

[cyan leaf]

Mije works but it refuses to load them and its not a power issue

[magic nest]

no route found or something to that effect

[ocean frost]

At the end of the day do what you find fun, make the game your own. just know that we make trade offs every day

[magic nest]

this was weeks ago

[reef basin]

can the train dock to the station? meaning the driving locomotive will dock into the station?

[wicked nacelle]

make sure you have an engine on both sides of the train facing away from each other and the train stations also have to be facing away from each other

[magic nest]

yup i made sure it was

[magic nest]

also did that

[reef basin]

so it's at the further end?

<==-----==>

[wicked nacelle]

weird then

[cyan leaf]

Fff nvm the train just doesnt dock

[magic nest]

i even ran the track manually and nothing

[wicked nacelle]

your train station is probably facing the wrong way -- the curved top part needs to be facing the same way as the engine that's driving

[magic nest]

doesn’t compute i guess

[median geyser]

Ah, turns out the floating formation Ive found is way off the map 😂 Dev relics I guess

[magic nest]

i now have a army of drones manually flying all my coal over to the bauxite sites

same thing with the far away bauxite

it’s a lot of drones and it was such a headache

but it works

[cyan leaf]

Nope it was just my train wasnt docking 😭 but how I make the timetable loop itself?

[wicked nacelle]

it automatically repeats

goes from the last one back to the first one

[pine patrol]

i flushed a mecer sphere down the toilet

[magic nest]

and if a incorrect item makes it to the wrong site it goes to the sink

[cyan leaf]

Ahh well then I got my first train set up done then lol

[crude ether]

halp im stuck in this hypertube cannon, holding E doesnt do anything https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/blueprints/index/details/id/10620/name/Compact+Cannon

[dense violet]

suicide

[crude ether]

how do i use it though

[leaden turret]

gonna request you use the correct game term there

[crude ether]

does it use the exit vehicle keybind?

[stoic steeple]

If you just keep spamming e eventually you'll be able to exit.

[sullen gull]

That's why I like just simple straight ones 🤷‍♂️

[crude ether]

didnt work

[crude ether]

i rebound the exit vehicle key so was wondering if thats the keybind it uses

[north summit]

Im back at my favorite part of the factory where i try to make everything look good leading up into phase 4

start redoing factory areas setting up buildings and stuff

[stoic steeple]

Use whatever the keybind is for switching hypertube directions

[north summit]

wondering why im still using basic nobelisks instead of cluster

[stoic steeple]

I'm not sure if the exit vehicle and change direction are both linked to the same keybind or not

[sonic verge]

does console not have glass floors or am I blind?

[sullen gull]

In the Awesome shop

[sonic verge]

looked

[sullen gull]

Then under "Architechture"

[dense violet]

hit escape, respawn

[sonic verge]

already looked. its not there

[crude ether]

yeah i did, found a different blueprint that works

[merry granite]

How do you guys do your blueprints? For stuff like lines of machines i dont bother because i wont know how many i want and where the input will be and where the output will be

[crude ether]

thanks

[ocean frost]

I think you need to unlock silica first

[sonic verge]

I did. im almost done with the entire quartz tree

[sullen gull]

It's under the Frame Structures.

[dense violet]

you either make very generic moderately small groups that can do most anything you like
or if you're doing a big job, create tailor made blueprints that you'll reuse a fair bit in the set up

[sullen gull]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Frame_Structures

[ocean frost]

Bit of both, mostly for things I'm going to use a lot. Smelters, or production steps I can fit on one bp

[sonic verge]

I don't have that tab. Management, Organization, Customizer, Foundations, Walls, Architecture and equipment

[sullen gull]

It's in the Awesome shop, under architecture. If it's not showing up, maybe it's not unlocked yet

[sonic verge]

how do I unlock it? ive already got glass roofs...makes no sense

[sullen gull]

Sorry, it's called the Structural Frame Set. And you need Coupons from the Awesome Sink to purchace.

[sonic verge]

I have spent over 200 of those in there. and I have no glass floors

[sullen gull]

And you've purchased the Structural Frame Set? Screen shot, or it didn't happen... 😏

[sonic verge]

is that an item name or a category?

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[sonic verge]

oh I found it. im retarded. false alarm.

[median geyser]

What are the risks/concerns with shipping liquids via train?

[sonic verge]

but theres no just plane glass floors without the frame? thats what im looking for

[sullen gull]

Not without mods, no.

You "could" use the flat glass roof...

[merry granite]

not much space

[median geyser]

Oh?

[merry granite]

i needed to reduce my train line to under 3 minutes long or smth like that to be able to transport 540 crude oil per minute

but you can also just add more freight pieces

so not a huge issue

[median geyser]

Wouldnt you just run more cars and use a fluid buffer to deal with the docking downtime?

[merry granite]

its more so just about how much the train car can store

it can only ever bring as much as it can store and how long its route is to bring it

[median geyser]

How much can each car run?

[sullen gull]

Erm, since everything else seems to be locked up on my PC atm.....

!wikisearch fluid+car

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=fluid+car

[sullen gull]

Nope.

[median geyser]

1600m³ per car... that seems like plenty, especially if you put 2 or 3 of them on a locomotive to account for round trip time

[north summit]

The Cyberwagon is glorious

Time to automate an entire production line using only them

[gloomy crescent]

Hope this is allowed https://wndotnr/m4DHM9U

[random garnet]

I’m actually so gutted… I’m on ps5 and my game keeps crashing when i try load in…

[sullen gull]

Not even sure what that is, but seems fishy either way ..... 🐟 🤔 🤷‍♂️

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[plain gate]

pipes move at 600, belts at 1200

[merry granite]

@sullen gull have you had the game open for many hours

referring to what you posted in #screenshots

[cyan leaf]

Shoukd i start using fuel power with normal fuel or wait till i researched (from maam) turbo?

[sullen gull]

No. Because of the dumb shenanigans I am trying, I have had to restart the game about every three hours due to UObject creep. But, may be due to a mod, so I'm messing about.

And, if you sall the blueprint, you'd be like "Oh, yeah, well ok ... idiot..... " 😏

[sullen gull]

You can build it with "upgrade" in mind. It's every good to do diluted fuel, turbo, rocket... (or could skip turbo at the cost of sulfur). All of with is just MAM research after fuel is unlocked in tier 5.

[gloomy crescent]

Just a link to the sweepstakes for merch

[sullen gull]

Yeah, probably not welcome I'd imagine. Besides, if there was some sort of "offical" sweepstakes, I'd imagine it would be in #announcements

[ocean frost]

Not till end game

[ocean frost]

Sounds like a good idea, I would recommend regardless of what you do to have some battery storage so if something happens you have power and time to sort it out 🙂

[gentle lion]

Fuel type affects jetpack height ? Or am I dreaming I read that

[gloomy crescent]

It is official

[north summit]

I’m so happy my two main goals todau were completed

[sullen gull]

There is burn time and thrusts. Some of the fuels like turbofuel and rocket fuel have very "good" acceleration, but very poor burn rate. .. the two "bests" are liquid Bio Fuel and Ionized Fuel for the jetpack.

[north summit]

My trains are no longer stopping half way to the SAM train station and we have aluminum automated

[sullen gull]

Nuke the swamp, and buy a cyber truck? 😏

[gentle lion]

Ah OK I'll get se liquid biofuel.Going later

[sullen gull]

One is much slower than the other, but they both have great longevity.

Also remember to keep your parachute just in case 😏

[south canyon]

do trains have regeneratibve braking?

[gentle lion]

Well I can't make ionized fuel yet

[sullen gull]

I always just bought it from the shop anyhow 🤣

[gentle lion]

Yeah I need some more mycelium lol

You can cut the tall ones down right?

[north summit]

The swamp is next

I am going to get uranium up then nuke the swap

Well since my satisfactory tasks are completed timr for league ttyl chat

[plain gate]

well he never said he was early-game, so in general thats the answer..

[wary perch]

The bad thing is the fact I cannot put other liquids in my coffee cup

[wise ice]

Building large designs in BP designers causes a very quick build up of uobjects. I made something pretty huge in the extra large, modded BP designers, and I had to restart my game every 15 minutes.

I don't understand what's happening behind the scenes, but structures placed in BP designers generate more uobjects... And as your structure grows, the problem of uobjects grows exponentially.

Perhaps that's why the vanilla BP designers are so small

To prevent this problem from happening

They did release a fix concerning uobjects not long ago, but I haven't played since then, so I don't know if it addresses this problem.

[wicked nacelle]

uobjects build up but then get GC'd pretty quick. If you crash from uobjets just bump it from 2M to 10M and you'll likely never crash again. Also anything that has a map spawns a LOT of uobjects. For me it's 100k each time and they add up until they GC

My main save I can crash the game in 5s without the uobject bump by just spamming m

there's a mod uobject counter that shows you your count

[oblique hound]

#screenshots message

hopefully 1.2 adds fluid factory carts as well...

[queen ingot]

Hey for the farming mod it wont let me get past the phases on only the farming tiers completly stopping prog for me

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[fervent tartan]

would u guys consider it cheating to buy the components for milestones and then use the tech from the milestones to automate the components?

[dense violet]

its an internal in save mechanic

you can unlock a lot of phases with crash pod items I believe

[wicked nacelle]

coupons exist for a reason. Spend them

nothing is cheating if it's an intended part of the game 🙂

[compact flicker]

I used to feel like I was cheating somehow when using crash site resources that I didn't have unlocked yet :p

[gentle lion]

I just built a 2km foundation path from main base to oil base...😂

[unkempt blade]

an excellent start!

[ocean frost]

Crash site resources are overpowered when starting out.

[gentle lion]

Up and over was easy

Technically closer ...🤷‍♂️ Somehow the random pathway was exactly in a straight line to there lol

[wicked nacelle]

I guess? probably better to just spend your time building though. If you know where to go maybe better but as a noob? nah

[gentle lion]

Is there a quick way to equip parachute if you need it when you jetpack to high? Or just be real quick to equip it lol

[unkempt blade]

the beautiful thing about a sandbox game is if you feel this way you can just sink them and play at the "difficulty" that feels right to you

[wicked nacelle]

just don't run out of fuel. Even a tiny amount of fuel will let you land safely in jetpack

beyond that just have an inhaler and you won't die

[unkempt blade]

I'm more of a "hork berries on the way down and survive with half a bar of life" kind of gamer

[gentle lion]

I haven't made any inhalers yet lol

Zip line is also kinda fun

[summer stump]

I always have a tough time keeping track of everything after phase 1 is complete. How am I supposed to automate all of these low level items while still having space for the higher level items that I need to automate later?

[gentle lion]

Bigger and taller factory ?

Also researched quantum storage faster upload (50%) and more space (200%)

[whole drum]

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=indepency

[whole drum]

Wow, autocorrect really dropped the ball on that one, rofl

[gentle lion]

Lol

[summer stump]

are there enough resources in the entire map to individually produce every single item?

[whole drum]

!wikisearch independency

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=independency

[whole drum]

There it goes

All the ones you'll need, yes

[gentle lion]

I've noticed walking around I'll see so many more iron copper and limestone nodes...then I forget carry stuff to make miners or forget to tag them on the map. I want all the iron , screws, plates rods , iron pipe galore hahahaha

[whole drum]

Find a SAM node and get your DD going

[summer stump]

I cant, I dont have steel yet

[whole drum]

For everything pre-DD, just belt everything to a spot near your hib with a bunch of storage containers

[unborn nova]

how do i angle a hypertube facing up?

[dense violet]

mouse wheel

[unborn nova]

or at an angle

[unborn nova]

but that jus rotates it around on x axis

[dense violet]

after the first click

when items take multiple clicks to put down the ycan be moved before every click

[unborn nova]

oh my god

bro tysm

ts is revolutionary

[dense violet]

this applies to all items that need multiple clicks

afaik

[unborn nova]

got it

[dense violet]

well and before the first click you can generally manipulate the hologram too. But that's generally basic spinning

[unborn nova]

ye thats all i knew how to do before

never occurred to me

[dense violet]

it's fair 🙂 not everyone plays with all the control possibilities constantly 😄 and nothing explicit about being able to do that

[unborn nova]

ye i always thought it was just another confirmation click or smth

which makes no sense in hindsite

[north summit]

THE TRAINS NOT WORKING AGAIN GRAAAAAH THIS IS AGONY WHATS WRONG WITH MY TRAIN

For some reason my train doesn’t have enough speed to get up a hill even though it’s an electric engine this is rediculous

[unborn nova]

do hypertubes have a cap?

[north summit]

I have to fix it when I get home

[north summit]

Wym cap

[unborn nova]

ive never used trains so idk if this helps but is it too steep?

[unborn nova]

like a limit to the speed

[narrow canyon]

Not really

[dense violet]

1 engine can't pull infinite cars up a hill

usually 1 engine per 4 cars I think? maybe less for 2m ramps

[hearty saffron]

I get demotivated when making a new factory super easily.....

I think the problem is that it's either boring or super confusing, depending in whether I space things out or try to be as compact as possible

Satisfactory modeler is a godsend

Also, I dislike having to build on weird ground, like around the southeast lake with the mushrooms. If you want to build a platform, it has to be raised so high to not have the ground poke through

[novel heath]

anyone has a ss of a medium size ~ recylced plastic rubber factory
trying to set one up but i feel a bit stumped

[south canyon]

how can I place railways flat on inverted ramps

[errant tapir]

is 20 motors per min enough? im just starting phase 3

[unborn nova]

youre gonna need alot of motors so i would recomend more

[ocean frost]

That's a good number for phase 3 just keep them in a stockpile for Project and building materials

[dense violet]

just hve multiple floors - that's infinite flat space

[dense violet]

build it straight on the ramp first, don't join it up with the horizontal rail

[coral glacier]

I wish nuclear was expanded on more

[dense violet]

how so?

[ocean frost]

Like enrichment

[coral glacier]

Seperate structures and their subsystems such as:

Steam turbine, spent fuel pool, dry cask storage for spent fuel that was safe enough to move out of the pool, as gill said, fuel enrichment and of that, being able to regulate enrichment of a type of fuel from 1%-5% and so forth, internal High Voltage regulation systems, etc.

Cooling towers OR a lake-like heat dissipator.

Along with it being full-scale :)

[ocean frost]

having a large reactor would be awesome

Building it would be such a pain in the ass honestly

[coral glacier]

If fusion reactors are successful when this game is still largely active, it's be cool to see that implemented

Unlikely for a long time, but it would be interesting

[kindred crater]

Synthesizing 2 kg of tritium every in game year might be peak content

[coral glacier]

I need it to power my stellar project! 😂

Using a dyson swarm would be far more efficient tbh

[kindred crater]

In all srs I just started the game

14 hours after my first session

[feral geyser]

Refined Power Mod

Does what you want

[ocean frost]

I'm surprises that project assembly doesn't need any fuel

[coral glacier]

👀

I'll be sure to check it out 👀

[feral geyser]

I removed it, but it is chill

I only ever used it for dams

[coral glacier]

I might look into it, but atm I'm working on my under-map 800 plutonium power plant facility

[feral geyser]

Free power and water without extractors? Yes please

[coral glacier]

Dams are nice, but their power output fluctuate based on river conditions.

[feral geyser]

Irl, sure, but not in game

[coral glacier]

Oh, you were talking about in game

My bad

[feral geyser]

Bruh 😭

[coral glacier]

😅

Hey nyazul

Er, nevermind, it wasn't satisfactory related

Wave-particle duality question

[dense violet]

refined power mod

[coral glacier]

T'was answered :P

Watching a video of it rn, looks very facinating 👀

[mortal ginkgo]

I got an important question; Why is Train Station so C H U N G U S ?

[hardy moat]

for more limestone nodes

[mortal ginkgo]

Makes TOTAL LEGIT 100% OMEGA sense. Thank you.

[hardy moat]

any tips on how to make a curved traintrack blueprint?

[short kite]

Honestly satisfactory has one of the best movement systems i ever seen

[mortal ginkgo]

I completely agree. The fact that all systems are disconnected so that you can jump around, climb ladders and delete the ladder you are on at the same time while keeping momentum etc are amazing QoLs

[short kite]

I like the slide jumping

[mortal ginkgo]

its a cool bug that they intentionally left.

[dense violet]

there's youtube videos, but mostly I recommend not having foundations under the rail the whole path, much easier

[short kite]

When you do it accurately, you can gain a lot of momentum

It's even faster then trains

[hardy moat]

see im getting that fines its mostly having like- any design on the track like railings/barriers/walls etc

[mortal ginkgo]

I think game designed so you can catch up with moving vehicles from behind etc

[dense violet]

exactly - you'd only have bare foundations. Just have the rail

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[hardy moat]

bugging my OCD tho

[dense violet]

... why?

[hardy moat]

your tracks look good but i feel like i need some support

[dense violet]

rails are 2m thick tracks of steel shrug that's pretty supported

[reef crown]

Factory Game

2

[hardy moat]

for tons of material moving at speed?

[dense violet]

sure. It's space engineering. You have a space elevator.

[scenic mirage]

is it possible to have 1280 encased industrial beams, 2560 modular frames, 25600 wire, and 735 cables in my inventory and depot

i made a battery blueprint but cant place it 😭

[dense violet]

probably not

make a slightly smaller BP and build it more times

much smaller

[scenic mirage]

aight

[hard ivy]

Even without rounding up, that's over 120 stacks. So no, not without save editing or mods

[wispy charm]

omg

10 mins until i complete phase 5 for the first time

[scenic mirage]

W congrats on saving the kittens and doggos

[wispy charm]

only 29 ballistic warp drives to go

[novel heath]

how the hell?
what in gods clipping did you use to require that many resources

[scenic mirage]

a huge battery lmao, no clipping

its just a mk3 blueprint designer completely filled with power storages

[winter fable]

No power issues

[tulip tide]

256 of them 🤦‍♂️

[novel heath]

oh lmfao i thought it was a bp for battery the fuel thing for drones and one other random recipes
power storage requries so much wire lol

[scenic mirage]

ooh no my b

[tulip tide]

Still though, you could build just one layer of it or something, then stack it.

[mortal ginkgo]

My brotherman here aiming to have enough power storage until Satisfactory 2 hits the shelves

[scenic mirage]

i just wanna make sure i dont destroy my power grid when i setup nuclear

[tulip tide]

Yeah but.. how much excess power do you have right now?

[scenic mirage]

like 10Gw

[tulip tide]

That's 25 GWh of storage...

[mortal ginkgo]

I think Priority Power is good in this case. You can shut off Nuclear Power if things are going sideways

[tulip tide]

Well I guess... It'll charge in about 2.5 hours

[scenic mirage]

imma make it a lot bigger just to be extra safe 😭

[late grail]

i was messing with coal power for the first time and i got the setup and all, but im wondering what is use to power the coal miner... is it the power from the generator (like fully self) or still biomass?

[scenic mirage]

youd start with biomass and then once the power from the coal starts you can switch to that fully

[late grail]

i see

might be a pain since the coal is like 1.2km away

[scenic mirage]

make the coal plant at the coal nodes

[late grail]

well if i do that itll be 1.2km to base

[scenic mirage]

make a long power line connecting your factory to the coal plant

[late grail]

that i run the power

ahh so thats better

[scenic mirage]

yes thats right

[tulip tide]

Power lines can carry infinite power as far as you want (well, total. Obviously each cable has max before you need another pole or such)

[late grail]

is there any way i can do blueprint

[tulip tide]

Of power wires?

[late grail]

of the coal setup

idk at my stage

[scenic mirage]

nope you unlock blueprints at tier 3

[tulip tide]

Tier 4. Tier 3 is where coal starts

[late grail]

yeah i have t4 i just dont know if its worth grinding or if i should just rebuild over there

yeah nope its too much

[tulip tide]

What's the problem?

[late grail]

like the milestone mats for blueprints

is there any vcs here

could stream a bit

[north summit]

Can you import blueprint strings in satisfactory

Is there like a blueprints site

[hard ivy]

blueprints aren't stored as strings, so no

but you can import blueprint files if you're on PC

[north summit]

That works for me

[steel kelp]

Now i have 1.7m mw of power, does anyone have any suggestions for builds/factories?

Tempted to make a bunch of pasta so i can recycle the plutonium

But making pasta is not very fun imo lol

[hardy moat]

a single factory that smelts all iron in the map

[steel kelp]

I wanna do something thats difficult. I enjoyed building nuclear so much because parts of it were challenging

Smelting all the iron in the map is just placing my smelting bp 50 times lol

[hardy moat]

i mean you get to a point where all you have is blueprints

[steel kelp]

Thats not my point

My point is its not a difficult thing to do

I would just connect all the nodes to my railway and dump a bunch of smelters

I want smth difficult

[hardy moat]

do refineries then

[late grail]

@tulip tide could you look in designs need some help

[scenic mirage]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=lcRCI9JEW7GodsdcfOk3

[clever lagoon]

how do u get the foundation with the rounded corners

[scenic mirage]

awesome shop

[steel kelp]

I alr have bwd and ai servers, guess im doing pasta

[clever lagoon]

I bought everything in the foundations tab

[steel kelp]

100 is pretty crazy tho, didnt kibitz do like 60

[scenic mirage]

i think ya

if i have more power available than i use does it charge battery storages quicker? like 10 Gw available vs 50 Gw?

[mortal ginkgo]

he is doing 120 pasta me thinks

[mortal ginkgo]

no, they got set amount of charging but they can go full yolo on discharge

[hard ivy]

they cap out at 100 MW

so at minimum it takes an hour to charge from empty

[scenic mirage]

ah ok

[late grail]

first coal setup lowk very niceee

[nova oriole]

Does anyone by any chance know a good satisfactory tutorial about trains? We're struggling here

We got three trains going around:

Giorgio has his own circuit and works perfectly

Sandro and Ciccio share a train station going to our main warehouse, and the problem occurs around where they share a rail approaching said warehouse

We can't figure out what the problem is and how the damn signals work

[dense violet]

use two lanes

having more than 1 train on a bidirectional rail is a major pain in the ass to manage and kills your potential throughput

[leaden turret]

-# inside you are two wolves trains

[dense violet]

Give those trains 2 lanes.

[nova oriole]

Okay thanks

[dense violet]

also keep your stations off the main track, put them on the side

that'll get rid of almost all your train issues

[scenic mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGw8ngs--7o

https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/CommunityResources/TrainSignalGuide.html

this is also a rlly good resource

[quartz loom]

Ficsmas is here in NZ but my advent calender is already opened from last year, does anyone know if it will reset for this year a little later on in the day?

[fading whale]

Is Nitric Acid a liquid or gas ?

[noble cave]

how do I fix a long hypertube spitting me out mid way

[hard ivy]

liquid I'm pretty sure

[hard ivy]

it's probably disconnected? unless it's a new bug I haven't heard of

[noble cave]

I tested that many times and it's connected all the way

[fading whale]

Hmm.. Looking at Rocket fuel.
If I'm mathing right, I can get 900 generators worth in Blue Crater. (no shards)

[hard ivy]

that sounds low for the blue crater lol

[fading whale]

How much should I expect?
The 900 is "just" from the turbo fuel. Still got some excess HOR I can utilize

[hard ivy]

like double that with rocket fuel?

[fluid sapphire]

HOR + diluted + nitro, you can make 4800 rocket fuel with everything in 1km radius

Have to fetch some sulfur and nitrogen a little ways out west

[hard ivy]

and nearly 8k if you use default RF

[fading whale]

Yeah ok. I doing HOR to Turbo Heavy Fuel and staying within the crater. Getting 3750 RF.

[hard ivy]

HOR to Turbo heavy is a massive waste of oil lol

sulfur and coal too

[golden plank]

Is there a wall or something that are radioactive proof

[fading whale]

Nope

Only one thick enough to keep you long enough away.

[quartz loom]

Just have to use the gas mask and filters that filter the radioactive particles

[golden plank]

Ia there a trash can or something, couldn’t delete it

[tulip tide]

Radioactive items can't be trashed.

[quartz loom]

^ this

[tulip tide]

Well, except uranium and putonium fuel rods and raw uranium, those can be sunk.

[fading whale]

Radioactive waste. A lot of radioactive items can be trashed or sunked.

[golden plank]

So I can make for example encased uranium cell and then delete it?

[fading whale]

Looks like if I "only" import some nitro, I can get 5600 RF. And that's no even using all the local sulfur.

[fluid sapphire]

sure, for me i valued the convenience of this chain for myself more than the resources

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=QwXdlqQn3fhFAsjPUKBP

[scenic mirage]

why not use the sulfur for nuclear or smth

is rocket fuel rlly that good

[fluid sapphire]

with this chain there is still 7600 more sulfur on the map

not exactly short supply for the average player

[hard ivy]

Is 470 GW from resources within 1 km of each other not good?

[hard ivy]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=POBB6Cwigyx6RVFm5bya

[zenith pecan]

I produce epic amounts of energy with rocket fuel, I don't think I can ever use it all.

[scenic mirage]

fair i ahvent touched rocket fuel tbh

[late grail]

when do i start being able to produce rubber

[hard ivy]

tier 5

[leaden turret]

!wikisearch rubber

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=rubber

[zenith pecan]

Once my rocket fuels power output has gone through the support towers amps, I net 1.1Tw.

[scenic mirage]

if i have 8 refineries using 988.62 crude oil and i have 2 pure oil nodes making 1200/min, can i just make a pipe going off with the extra oil? i wanna automate rifle ammo

[zenith pecan]

God help my grid if I decide to max nuclear on top, the available electric will be insane.

[zenith pecan]

Probably, due to how fluids work, have the spur moving the spare through an inverted U. that way it'll go through the main refineries first and overflow into the ammo rather than shorting your other production.

[gleaming dragon]

my game keeps suddenly slowing down to around 15 fps after less and less playtime. theres no reason it should slow down and im starting to wonder if theres something wrong.

at first it suddenly went from normal to slideshow at over 2h and now i didnt even manage to play an hour before its doing this.

i remember someone say something about a memory leak when i told about the problem before.

[hardy moat]

do you have a lot of stuff where youre playing ?

like belts etc

[gleaming dragon]

nope. just regular terrain. never caused problems before

[north summit]

Waterfall?

[steel kelp]

Its pretty good. W the alt you can get like 130gw out of 600 oil

[hardy moat]

have you tried running task manager while playing to see whats being used up?

[steel kelp]

I just finished uranium to plutonium and i have 1.7m mw lol

So excessive

[steel kelp]

Just set up the refineries so a group of them add up to 600 crude consumption

[gleaming dragon]

nope. but im guessing its memory bc i have like 8 gigs in this thing

ah i have my game closed and microsoft edge is just eating my RAM

[steep oyster]

can i use both any undefined and overflow in one single port with the programmable splitter

[scenic mirage]

ya i have 8 each uses 150

[hardy moat]

possibly or might just be CPU i have a ryzen 9 and im using around 50%

ram sits around 3gb

[hardy moat]

try close it while playing

[steel kelp]

Yeh so split them into 2 groups of 4. One 600 pipe goes into one group and the other goes into another

[scenic mirage]

dont use microsoft edge lmfao use brave or opera gx

[gleaming dragon]

i dont use it idk how it was on

[scenic mirage]

ah classic microsoft being shitty

thats what happens when they use ai to create important OS features

[gleaming dragon]

oh god no...

[scenic mirage]

windows 11?

[hardy moat]

dont use opera gx if your concerned about ram usage

[gleaming dragon]

welp ima continue now and see if my game has a stroke again

[scenic mirage]

ah i didnt know it was shit too ive just seen a lot of stuff ab it

[hardy moat]

its a good browser but uses sooo much ram

[scenic mirage]

i use brave and im watching a tv show and i have 11 tabs open rn and its only using 1.5Gb

[hardy moat]

try duckduckgo

same tabs and watching a movie and its 500mb

[scenic mirage]

thats a search engine

[hardy moat]

its a browser now to

[scenic mirage]

ram isnt an issue for me tho 😭 i have 64 gigs of ram

[hardy moat]

nice haha

[gleaming dragon]

ah i think i know what made edge go berserk. theres this random ass thing that tries to turn on every time i play satisfactory. some sort of help, map, notes sorta bullcrap thing. idk how to turn it off.

[scenic mirage]

huh weird, in the game? why would edge do it

send a pic of it in #screenshots

[gleaming dragon]

something from overwolf. or edge is just going nuts by itself

[whole drum]

Do you have any mods or add-ons for SF?

[gleaming dragon]

no mods or add-ons. atleast of which i know.

[midnight shore]

guys i just completed my first factory but have you guys got any tips for building factorys

[bold python]

How many MW is everyone producing?
Just kinda curious I love building power stations

[steel kelp]

1.7tw

[bold python]

What power generators are you using?

[gleaming dragon]

alright i just got myself inventory uploading in tier 1

[feral geyser]

👀👀

[feral geyser]

Also, Cobalt has me blocked, so he wouldn't know that I answered it lmao

[steel kelp]

I have 130gw of rocket fuel, like 30gw of turbo fuel and 900gw of nuclear. The nuclear is just uranium fuel rods, i have the plutonium rods made but i need to make some other stuff to get it to ficsonium

[scenic mirage]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:Independency

[bold python]

||ficsonium fuel rods?||

[steel kelp]

Yes

[bold python]

Ok cool

Im on phase 4

[steel kelp]

But im far away from that

[warm bison]

How do I remove rock

[steel kelp]

Oh yeh ive finished the game lol and only built nuclear once i finished it

[whole drum]

Choose rap instead

[steel kelp]

You dont need that much power to beat the game. A solid rocket fuel plant is enough.

[bold python]

And just finished my 100Gw rocket fuel factory, and 50GW of turbo

I also have like 25Gw of nuclear but yeah

[warm bison]

I need to remove the big rock

[steel kelp]

Yea, eventually you will wanna use some of your turbo or rocket fuel to make drone fuel

[steel kelp]

Are you processing the waste though?

If you’re not id suggest turning it off lol, otherwise itll be v annoying

[bold python]

Can’t yet, haven’t un locked the mile stone

[steel kelp]

Yeh just turn off your nuclear then

[bold python]

Oh ok

[steel kelp]

I beat the game with just rocket fuel and turbo fuel

[whole drum]

Blow it up with explosives

[bold python]

I have a huge storage facility at the edge of the map, and plans for plutonium though

[scenic mirage]

i could prob beat the game w the power i have rn if i turn some factories off

like i dont need any more nuclear pasta, thatd free up 20 Gw. i have plenty of power shards and thatd free up like 15Gw

[steel kelp]

Itll be v annoying to add waste processing to your current setup. You will need so many filters and theres a lot of room for things to go wrong

Nuclear is like the one thing imo you wanna take your time with and build properly so you dont deal w any issues once it turns on

[scenic mirage]

filters?

[bold python]

Set the whole thing up then connect the waste?

[steel kelp]

For the radiation

[scenic mirage]

oo

[bold python]

I just buy in bulk using tickets lol

I have like 90 in my inventory atm

[steel kelp]

Until you can fully process waste into plutonium fuel rods, turn it off or even delete it. When you can make plut fuel rods, design a whole new factory which precisely processes the waste you make

[steel kelp]

To build mine i used 300 filters lol

[mortal ginkgo]

This is what we see as PURE madness.

[bold python]

Ok I guess

[scenic mirage]

thats crazy 💀 its so easy to make them why would you do that 😭

[steel kelp]

You will thank yourself later lol trust me

[gleaming dragon]

i see that as efficiency.

[bold python]

Can’t be bothered

[steel kelp]

Just let them craft whilst you look at your phone or smth

Thats what i did

[bold python]

Ew

[steel kelp]

Unless you alr have all the statues and everything

[bold python]

Boring

[scenic mirage]

you could just grab the stuff out of your depot and place a manufacturer and have it slooped, easily make a few hundred

[bold python]

Ugh

Anyway bed time

[scenic mirage]

night night

its 4:30pm here

[gleaming dragon]

5:30 pm here

[compact flicker]

10:30 am hwre

[abstract heron]

Soon start of FICMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[compact flicker]

Excited for my first :3

[abstract heron]

i think my 5th one

[compact flicker]

What all happens during it?

[scenic mirage]

you'll see 😉

or if you dont care about spoilers theres a lot of videos on youtube

[compact flicker]

Ah alr

[abstract heron]

Its very nice but i won't spoil it due to its your first time

[wicked nacelle]

Just because this was confusing to me the content unlocks a little bit each day so if you just want to play through it in one go you have to wait until the end. For most of it there’s only maybe 5-10m of content per day

And probably only 2-4 hours of content in total unless you go wild decorating

[quartz loom]

Its already started here. But because I played last year on this save my calendar is already unlocked and finished

[abstract heron]

mine is also started

[abstract heron]

or done

[quartz loom]

Ah so I'm not the only one who didnt have their calendar reset. Kind of a shame because I was looking forwards to opening it

[surreal ingot]

Is there anything new planned for satisfactory?

[quartz loom]

There is an update planned for the near future

[wicked nacelle]

Nothing more than basically QOL fixes. And a stupid new fluid truck that no one asked for

[reef basin]

New gamemode is "nothing"?

[whole drum]

Is this confirmed? Do we know anything about it?

[hard ivy]

I suspect it's "random node types/purities" considering the latest video

[pliant prawn]

Rain is coming back it looks like

More curious to get more details about fluid "fix". Truck looks cool.

[abstract heron]

Maybe uping to trains fluids but who knows

[wicked nacelle]

Yes QoL fixes but basically just tweaking numbers except the fluid truck. Vs something like “a new phase”

[abstract heron]

Maybe but who knows

[wicked nacelle]

It would be great if they made fluids work like new players expect but again that’s QoL.

[pliant prawn]

I imagine any things like a new phase or objective would come with possible DLC. In the past they did say the get were looking at post game content potential

[whole drum]

Personally happy with the phases we have. Would like to just add more toys to those phases. I still want my Flamethrower that has better dps according to higher tier fuels.

[abstract heron]

it might come in new year but idk

I think the devs said 2026

or mikael or something

[charred sentinel]

I started a new playthrough where I'm leaning a lot more heavily into trains. I seem to recall reading that Fluid Freight cars are problematic, but I don't recall the specifics (and I can't find the discussion that I think I remember). Am I about to enter a world of pain by using a Fluid Freight car to carry Heavy Residual Fuel to my ammo factory?

[wicked nacelle]

Liquid trains seem fine. Gas trains I never figured out how to really use

[pliant prawn]

Mikael said first half of 26, yeah. Which has been pretty expected for awhile

[wicked nacelle]

And since gasses travel better packed even without doing anything fancy it really makes no sense not to

[pliant prawn]

They work fine, but currently a fluid car moves less than a packaged fluid freight car. Not really a problem

[wicked nacelle]

Also why don’t you build your ammo by your oil? It already needs coal and sulfur.

[abstract heron]

Now its ficmas time 🙂 with probbaly patches incase of consoles or anything comes into problems

[pliant prawn]

Did Ficsmas start already?

[abstract heron]

For me not yet still november 30th but who is on the next day already have

[charred sentinel]

Hmmm - that's a thought, yeah.

[wicked nacelle]

Per car yes. But if you dedicate a car to empties it’s the same rate for liquids. Gasses are better packaged

[pliant prawn]

I thought both did worse?

[wicked nacelle]

A car of packaged liquid holds 2x a fluid car. But if you dedicate a car to empties you could have had 2 cars full of liquids

[pliant prawn]

Gotcha. Then you just pay the power for the extra shipping

[wicked nacelle]

You can do a fancy system where you share a car and do a drop off then immediately dock again and pick up emtpies in the same car but that seems painful to me 🙂

[pliant prawn]

Yikes, needs a fail safe sorter tho

[whole drum]

Packaged has fewer logistical hangups as well

[wicked nacelle]

That doubles per train efficiency but at the cost of slower trips.

[wicked nacelle]

Well sort of. You can set train pickup and drop off types. And since the input:output is 1:1 I think you can do it without an overflow sink kind of thing

[whole drum]

For example, it's easier to just store extra packaged fuel, and to later use them to feed drones

[wicked nacelle]

But you’d have to be careful

[pliant prawn]

It's just adding more steps though. If they "fix" fluids, I wonder how that changes things. I've about had it with the current system. Feels like I should just put packagers and unpackers right next to each machine lol

[wicked nacelle]

Yeah that does get you very consistent results.

The biggest thing it would change in my life would be less time helping people fix their fluids

[whole drum]

Regardless of which method you use, you're basically solving the same set of questions:

• How do I ensure production doesn't halt unless/until I want it to?
• How do I transport it from A to B?
• What do I want to do with any surplus?
• What do I want to use the fuel for?

[pliant prawn]

That's all well and good until the pipes start doing weird things. The factory laughs while pioneers plan pipes

Weird, message got rearranged. Wasn't the slow mo.

[scenic mirage]

yuck my plastic + rubber needs 1274.511 water/min

[wicked nacelle]

That’s just three pipes

[scenic mirage]

actually its not too bad, each plastic line needs 331.373/min for plastic but the rubber needs 611.765

[dire harness]

is it just me, or is the game crashing pretty regularly for anyone else since the last patch?

[pliant prawn]

I've had no issues? Try verifying game files maybe?

[pliant prawn]

Might actually work out better to run under what a max pipe can move. That's where a lot of problems happen

[scenic mirage]

wdym

[pliant prawn]

Mk2 pipes have issues actually pushing Max flow rates.

[scenic mirage]

run what under tho 😭 the refieries?

or wdym

[south sinew]

they mean, don't try to push 300/min through a mk1 or 600/min through a mk2

try 250/min and 550/min

[pliant prawn]

The numbers for your water, being odd actually will help you. What puppy said

[scenic mirage]

or just average the 3? 425 each?

[pliant prawn]

Yeah that should do well

[scenic mirage]

ah aight ok

[hearty kiln]

i love trains

[scenic mirage]

trains love you too

[pliant prawn]

I love... Lamp

[compact flicker]

Trains are cool :3

[gleaming dragon]

i just realised something. would it be possible to beat the entire game with biofuel? because theres solid biofuel for bioburners, theres biocoal for coal generators and theres biofuel for fuel generators.

you would need a ton of biofuel and fuel generators but whats stopping you from just deforesting the entire map to fuel your factory?

[white dawn]

I assume it's been done, sure

You can technically beat the game with just one of each type of machine, so long as you're willing to be patient

[scenic mirage]

how much extra storage do yall have in your power storages

[whole drum]

What are power storages?

Can you eat them?

[ivory condor]

supply, besides burners, all other power generators do not consume based on demand

[hard ivy]

I have 0 storage

[open swallow]

Harvesting wildlife is a far more efficient source of biomass, and they are renewable

[ivory condor]

in other words using biofuel for fuel generators is basically unsustainable, you might be able to get away with it for a period of time, but i wouldnt be optimistic

[lunar python]

accidentally using satisfactory fandom wiki 😭

[steel kelp]

You dont really need storage. Just be aware of your avg consumption and your production and you will be fine

Unless you decide to place 100 particle accelerators for some reason lol

[scenic mirage]

ppl saying to have some for setting up nuclear

[white dawn]

Some folks like having the failsafe of knowing that if they use too much power, they won't trip their grid (and can have a little warning)

The production lines necessary to spin up nuclear can be a bit power-heavy, so folks might feel better having some power storage around Just In Case

You never actually need Power Storage, though, if you keep an eye on your grid and just make sure you always have a good amount of "overhead"

Whenever I get to a point where I'm using like 2/3rds or 3/4ths of my avialable power, I make my next project Build More Power™

[gleaming dragon]

meanwhile for me not even that is enough bc i wont notice until my base shuts down.

[white dawn]

Depending on the scale you're building out your next power phase, it might be worth doing the math to make sure you do have enough power overhead to get there, of course

[whole drum]

Also, you can use priority power switches to ensure that non-essential parts of your grid shut down instead of the entirety of it

[scenic mirage]

im working on nuclear rn i just added a light 10 Gw with this plastic/rubber factory

[white dawn]

But anyway: indeed, build a bunch of Power Storage if you want! It's never actually necessary so long as you're taking care of your power infrastructure, though.  :)

[scenic mirage]

was at 98 Gw capacity before now im at 110, but my max consumption is 90-95 Gw

[white dawn]

Yeah, and Priority Power Switches can take the sting out of overusing your power, for sure

That way if you do trip something, it's only the "least-important" parts of your factory which start going down. If you set up the PPSes in the generally-intended way, your actual power-generation machinery will always stay running

For full overkill, can do both PPSes and Power Storage! 🥳

[scenic mirage]

pps?

[white dawn]

Priority Power Switch. :)

[scenic mirage]

o ya

[mortal ginkgo]

peepees

[scenic mirage]

🤦‍♂️

[open swallow]

One of my fuel generator lines varies in output, so I keep a bank of batteries just in case it needs smoothing out under high load

[mortal ginkgo]

I am not sorry btw.

[gleaming dragon]

how does storage + PPS work? does it only stop output when storage runs dry?

[steel kelp]

Just build your nuclear well enough so it doesnt break and you dont need it

I just built a 900gw nuclear plant, it used 150gw more than my old production and i just made sure i built it right lol. Use modeller to ensure your math is all legit

[scenic mirage]

ah gotcha, i was planning on building it kinda broken so everything just falls to shit

#screenshots message

[steel kelp]

Then have faith in your ability and you will be fine :))

[lunar python]

what do you guys think of a 30 turbomotor per min factory

[steel kelp]

Bit excessive imo

[white dawn]

IMO if you allow your power-generation machines to have variable output, it would be especially useful to over-build your power. Make sure you never actually approach that "max consumption" line. :)

[steel kelp]

Youll be fine with 5 or 10

[lunar python]

into the SINK

[white dawn]

I personally never like being in a position where I'm relying on the presence of something like Power Storage to keep my factories afloat. :)

[steel kelp]

Just sink your project parts

[open swallow]

Just gives me a little more headroom before the grid collapses entirely

[white dawn]

Sure, but I'd still recommend building out your power big enough that it never becomes a problem in the first place. :D

[open swallow]

Of course

[white dawn]

If your power output varies, you're playing with fire if you consume too close to that jagged line

[gleaming dragon]

i like having that extra power go somewhere instead of vanishing into the quantum void

[feral geyser]

it's too bad your fctory can't actually catch fire

[whole drum]

Tbh, just keep an eye on your power any time you start and finish a build in your factory so you know if/when you need to make more power. I basically never have blackouts once I can build coal.

[white dawn]

(I actually don't even like using Power Storage in conjunction with Geothermal, which is variable by design. For me, if I'm relying on geothermal, I'm still gonna stick well below the threshhold where I could even potentially trip)

[steel kelp]

Exactly, you dont need power storage if you know how much power each build is gonna take

[mortal ginkgo]

they look good as decoration tho!

[open swallow]

Paranoia gonna paranoia... Just making sure I don't destroy my factory due to my theoretical incompetence

[whole drum]

Yeah, I like to build some just because rather than for any functional purpose. They add visual variety to your factory.

[mortal ginkgo]

Another use for Power Storage is, you can have a chungus setup of them well filled up, then take them out of the grid. So you will always have a backup plan to retrigger your power if things go south

yes there are ways to prevent total power outage but you never know

[white dawn]

Oh for sure; I'm all for building in contingency plans, even if you hope to never need to rely on 'em. :)

[whole drum]

I got nothing against it, but with a proper PPS system, you would never need them.

[white dawn]

(And likewise, with a properly-sized power generation plant in the first place, you would also never need them (or PPSes!). But I digress! )

[whole drum]

Yeah, but the assumption behind these failsafes is that you make a mistake and accidentally overdraw your grid.

[white dawn]

Yeah, I still like putting stuff like that in, even though I haven't "legit" tripped a grid since Update 3

(apart, obviously, from Phase 1 running-out-of-biofuels)

Failsafe infrastructure can be its own reward. :D

[north parcel]

Anyone else having visual glitches with building? My walls keep flickering n stuff, please help me i posted a video in #screenshots

[white dawn]

I still often set up offline-but-charged Power Storages which are sufficient to kickstart my power generation, etc

[compact flicker]

Cant say I've seen that myself

[sudden flint]

It just occured to me that you can clock buildings in your blueprint designer however you want, to receive whatever amount you want per minute, every time you place it.

so I can make a 10 smelter array clocked at 90% and have a clean 270 in/out

[near thicket]

I don't understand why Iron Wire gets dunked on so much when it has the very nice utility of combining with Iron Pipes to let you automate awakened SAM with JUST iron

[zenith pecan]

Iron wire is nice to have, for some production lines, I just couldn't make the numbers clean, resulting in yellow lights thanks to more than 4 decimal places attempted and rounding.

[near thicket]

I feel like that can usually be solved with shards and slooping tho

[gentle lion]

Anyone know of a layout app for android ? Like a 2d top down graph like thing?

[near thicket]

Any graph paper app

[whole drum]

The general issue people have with it is that it's not very material efficient. What people tend to miss is that Iron is the most common resource, so you're actually trading up to not have to use copper/coal for this. It doesn't mean it's always the better choice, but if you have something that you can conveniently automate with it, it's really nice to have.

You can also diminish the material efficiency loss if you use pure iron recipes

[sudden flint]

Who have you been talking to that dunks on Iron Wire?

[reef basin]

well given the game is basically "finished" according to their words, I wouldn't expect much "new content"

[near thicket]

Most alt recipe guides/lists

[reef basin]

oh, those are all subjective and basically pointless to look at

[sudden flint]

Iron Wire makes a copper product from Iron, which is already a bonus because copper is rarer, it can be used for super resource efficient reinforced iron plates with the stitched iron plates alt recipie, it's all kinds of useful!

[ivory condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFveSyGGmA well this video made some interesting observations, possible map tweaking, changes could be coming with 1.2

[sudden flint]

not to mention, Iron Pipe + Iron Wire + Steel Rotor = all iron motor production

[ivory condor]

Apu CSS keeps on teasing about rain, likely because they arent 100% locked in if rain will be ready for 1.2 launch

[reef basin]

literally all iron, it's super expensive 😄

[near thicket]

Wait so I'm correct that biocoal is the must useful recipe in the game?

[plain gate]

weighted, not really cuz iron is infinite

[reef basin]

all recipes are useful, how much useful they are depends on the user, also on combination of other recipes and such

[reef basin]

nothing is infinite 🙂 (well, almost everything is infinite, but not infinite per minute)

[near thicket]

What actual use case does biocoal have lmao

[reef basin]

f.e. ammo factory without coal

[near thicket]

But you have to go hand feed it

[plain gate]

by the same logic water in this game is a finite resource... not really lol

[sudden flint]

yeah nobody really uses bio or charcoal

[plain gate]

no one has ever used all the iron in the map reasonably

[reef basin]

you also don't need non-stop production of ammo 🤷 you come, put your remains into it, take ammo.

[reef basin]

people do

[sudden flint]

there are exceptions....

[zenith pecan]

I actually cannot take charcoal, it's the one recipe I don't have but when i try to research the hdd, it says 0 recipes ..

[reef basin]

I'm not saying "most people use that recipe", but in the same way you cannot say "nobody uses that recipe" 🙂

as with any other recipe, usefulness of a recipe depends on the player who's using it 😉

[ivory condor]

well those niches are so niche I haven't found a actual use for using the recipes, so imo those recipes are very niche use cases

personally I always ignore those recipes as a general use, as they cant be used for a truly fully automated self replenishing factory

[near thicket]

Also, automated miners

[ivory condor]

aka the niche use case seems to be make a factory where your only resource is biomass from the area, but i basically never design a factory that way

[reef basin]

those are super useful for most people

[ivory condor]

automated miners is actually a useful recipe, i wouldnt say its the same as biofuel and charcoal

[reef basin]

never have to carry autominers around when building/upgrading miners

[ivory condor]

automated miners isnt quite as niche of a use case, imo anyways

[ivory condor]

actually forget its even more useful in 1.0, because can you use automated miner recipe to always keep the dimensional depot full of the portable miners

[whole drum]

Yeah, without DD they would be "nice," but that's about it

[hard ivy]

oh, yeah, it was almost completely useless before 1.0. Requiring a manufacturer, stacking to 1, and having to actually go up to a container to grab some made it basically a waste of a drive. If you needed one or two miners, it was always faster to just handcraft them instead of going to a container unless you were right next to it. And if you needed a lot, they'd take up so much inventory space you would barely be able to build anything else before you used them

Now you can depot them, making it much faster than handcrafting them, because they're right there wherever you are. The time savings aren't huge because you ultimately don't need that many miners, but they at least exist, unlike before 1.0

[fallow urchin]

hey, anyone able to help me with architecture? I dont want my powerplant to look like a misshapen cheese block.

[spiral lava]

Make it modular. Split it into smaller parts

[grim galleon]

Hey i am trying to open the Consoles ingame to enter a code to fix a Mod. But i can't figure out how to open the Console

[spiral lava]

+you can deploy them easier if they are small ebough for the blueprint machine

[sudden flint]

which power type?

[fallow urchin]

Turbofuel

[sudden flint]

definitely make a blueprint for it like Viper said

play with shapes? give it visual interest with asymmetry or hight variation? add frames for support, or a roof, maybe?

[fallow urchin]

looks like this so far: #design-and-architecture message

[sudden flint]

I'd say give it a more open concept, make sure there's windows and ways to see in, make sure to add depth for visual texture, and use shapes other than rectangles...

[reef basin]

in 1.0 you had to "actually go to container" to grab things (unless you did construction train or something), so it wasn't as bad

[sudden flint]

for example you cam make triangles, diamonds, or even hexagons using ramp walls clipped into windows, and using beams and pillars can add some nice depth and visual interest.

[peak wasp]

i have a question why is nucular power so confusing to me

[fallow urchin]

soo, stuff like this? #screenshots message

[reef basin]

well, only you can answer why it's confusing for you 😛

[fallow urchin]

makes perfect sense to me: Uranium and Water in, Lizard doggo backpacks out. not that hard to understand.

[primal obsidian]

i sure do love glitches a convery belt didnt connect properly and now i have 50k waste backlog

[sudden flint]

dam

maybe back up to an earlier save?

[primal obsidian]

no its a 24/7 server and i have 5 containers of storage 50k is only 2

jsut kinad annoying since now i have to overclock something to make it use more waste

[sudden flint]

only temporarily, though, I guess?

[fading whale]

When auto-connecting pipes, can you change the pipes buildmode? Like from curved to straight?

[bitter dirge]

Is more always better? like is two constructors getting resources that are being split better then 1 constructors? also does storage container buffers take forever or something :<

[unborn nova]

2 constructors will always be better than 1 and its more effecient so

wdym with the storage buffers

[hard ivy]

it's more space and more building materials, so no, it's not always better.

[bitter dirge]

i got my ingots running into a storage container and then into a splitter but it feels like it messes with the speed a ton (incase it backups)

[bitter dirge]

hmm okay so there sint any weird speed loss or something

[unborn nova]

yea i guess slooping and overclocking

[unborn nova]

well i think items travel through a storage container instantly if the input and output are the same

[bitter dirge]

hm but item spacing is inconsistent though should i make this a thread in questions and help lol or nah? idk if its appropriate yet

[unborn nova]

ya do that ill see if i can help

[weary stream]

been on phase 3 because im too stuck on making things look good

is it time to give in and just do flat foundations

[unborn nova]

yes

its so worth it

[weary stream]

but it will look uglyyyyyy

[unborn nova]

it would make it alot easier to make it look organized

and its also on a grid instead of micro placements

[weary stream]

true...

still gonna try and use the good looking factory shell i already built

but i think for everything else itll get the platform treatment

maybe even my rail lines

[fallow urchin]

hey, does this look good? not exactly sure if it does... #screenshots message

[primal obsidian]

I DID IT I MADE A WORKING INTERSECTION im so proud of myself

[primal obsidian]

it looks way better then anything ive built so yeah

[fallow urchin]

its litterally just a quantum encoder wedged into the loop of a particle accellerator

[gentle lion]

I just realized I'm not utilizing resources correctly

So example iron node mining at 120/m shoukd feed 4 smelters at once correct with appropriate conveyor

Without over clock

[hard ivy]

There's no reason to mine 120 if you don't need 120.

[primal obsidian]

well idk what a quantum encoder is but it still looks cool

[glad quest]

me n a mate r playing on a sf and we tried to save a bp and it wont save

[hard ivy]

what's your session name?

[glad quest]

session name?
why would that matter

[gentle lion]

Your saying you can have too many resources lol

[hard ivy]

blueprints are saved in a folder with the same name as the session name. if the session name is not a legal name for a folder, it can't be created and the blueprint can't be saved

[glad quest]

ecx.coop

[hard ivy]

usually the issue is a space at the beginning or end (in the middle it's fine)

[glad quest]

theres a space

[hard ivy]

then check for a space because I think a . is fine, at least in the middle

[leaden turret]

@void gorge stuck in the basement for weeks, but still took the time to decorate? 😛

[primal obsidian]

yknow what mayber i should ask someone who knows how trains work before thinking its working

[glad quest]

can we rename the session

[hard ivy]

It should be somewhere in the session settings I think

if not, it can def be done with a save editor

[glad quest]

ok thx

do we have to be ingame to do it?

or is it where u load into a game

[weary stream]

do the metal finishes cause more lag?

[hard ivy]

in game i'd guess

[glad quest]

sorry i should clarify i mean when we are going to save when in the world

[hard ivy]

I've been told it's in "session settings". I don't think those exist unless you're actually loaded into a session

[abstract heron]

oop i got the uboject crash and made a QA post on here

[glad quest]

ok

we got it thx

[dawn path]

im just as stumped as you are for this one, but a tip i can give for future builds is play around with shapes
keeping everything in a cube restricts your ideas vastly, try messing around with angles and double ramps, height variations in your roof, etc

hell, maybe even go for some diagonal walls if you feel brave enough

[mortal ginkgo]

I think Ficsit foundation looks kinda meh.

[dawn path]

(i like to use foundations for walls on bigger builds, you should too)

oh yeah speaking of black & white, you can give foundations a pure black/pure white color by manually changing the value of each slider (in the swatch menu)

so intead of sliding it all the way up for white, type in like 255 or smth on each of the 3 values for actual white foundations

same with black

absolutely! inspiration is key

[mortal ginkgo]

getting inspiration is not copying someone else, we ain't architects here and we all check what irl stuff looks like too

[dawn path]

also if you wanna get more intricate with decoration, play around with everything you can think of until it looks right, get creative

[near thicket]

Are the weak signals all the thing inside just the radio towers radius? Because it seems wild that there are 137 power slugs in this circle

[dawn path]

i find myself using the underside of railings for a sort of cable-ish look on ceilings, or using pipes purely for cosmetic

#design-and-architecture message
here's a wall design i made some time ago that i'm quite proud of (bit too many pipes near the bottom but those were removed afterwards)

[fallow urchin]

Heres an example, courtesy of me: #screenshots message

[dawn path]

this is an even better example haha

[fallow urchin]

Keep in mind i have resizing mods on, so that huuggee Refinery isn't exactly acheiveable in vanilla

[peak wasp]

how is multiplayerin this game ive never tried it?

[dawn path]

i've spent 15 hours on my current design and i'm eager to spend another 30

[dawn path]

pretty good!

[near thicket]

Imagine the regular game, but with more people playing at the same time

[peak wasp]

ok

[dawn path]

both dedicated servers and simply joining one's session have all worked "flawlessly" for me

[peak wasp]

i put a lfg up hopefully i find some people

[dawn path]

take that with a grain of salt as there will obviously be lag and whatnot depending on your solution

[fallow urchin]

ah, yes, "Flawlessly"

[dawn path]

hey we don't talk about the flying ragdolls okay

[fallow urchin]

"Ooh, whats this floaty cool S do- MY BONES!"

idk, maybe

[dawn path]

i think there is actually but i don't remember the name

i think it was Factory Props? unless i'm mistaking it with another mod

but i know for a fact there is one for that

[fallow urchin]

hold on, i can check

[dawn path]

(also gives you many other deco pieces but the highlight imo is foliage)

[sudden flint]

Ikr? think about the indoor planter options!

[fallow urchin]

yeah, you're right, its https://ficsit.app/mod/Factory_Prop_Mod

anyways, gtg, night.

[midnight shore]

how many coal plant can i power with 3 coal nodes

[peak wasp]

are they all pure

[feral geyser]

What purity?

[vague creek]

coal/15

[midnight shore]

one sec

[hard ivy]

total available coal divided by 1 gen's consumption

[ocean frost]

minimum 3

[feral geyser]

Also depends on the OC of the miners and the gens

Without OC, one pure node feeds 8 gens, requiring 3 water extractors.

[hard ivy]

and the miner mk

[midnight shore]

normal purity for all

[feral geyser]

True. I assume Mk1

[feral geyser]

So without OC and assuming Mk1 miners, 60 each node, total 180. ÷15 = 12 gens

[midnight shore]

how many water pumps do i need

[peak wasp]

9

i think it is

[dawn path]

4.5 water extractors if im not mistaken

[peak wasp]

oh

[dawn path]

so 5 pretty much

[feral geyser]

12×45 = 540, ÷120 (round up) = 5 extractors

[midnight shore]

ok thanks guys

[dawn path]

[feral geyser]

This is grade school math

Git gud

[dawn path]

you should get used to applying the math in-game
guesstimating is bad practice 🙃

[midnight shore]

i just started last night

[dawn path]

[near thicket]

Is foodstuff finite or does it respawn

[midnight shore]

there is a 4th one but its got a big rock in it

so idk

[near thicket]

Bacon specifically

[dawn path]

dont forget that your belts are limited ofc, youll have to split up that 180 coal based on your current belt speed

or else your power plant will barely run

[midnight shore]

ive got mk 2

[dawn path]

then just split the 180 into two mk.2 belts

[midnight shore]

then just 1 belt for half

[wicked nacelle]

yeah the berrys and nuts respawn if their plant isn't destroyed. if the plant is destroyed then it's gone forever

There is a LOT of bacon and you can make inhalers from recipes that don't require bacon, too

which one?

[dawn path]

Factory Props

[wicked nacelle]

just know that you may not be able to play for a bit after 1.2 comes out - without losing all your customizations

[limpid inlet]

Should I be worried about my max consumption being on average 60% larger than average consumption? The max is far larger than my actual power

[spare bluff]

Got my new PC running today and playing satis on Ultra at 144fps feels surreal

[wicked nacelle]

Mine almost always is. I like to have more production available than i actually need to deal with if something shuts off -- so it can catch back up. So that introduces a lot of max consumption that I don't really need to support with power

it was :). You thought I was calling YOU vanilla 🙂 but just wanted to make sure you knew the risks precisely

[limpid inlet]

Alrighty. Thank you. 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

ONLY if you're the kind of person that thinks and builds for "all lights must be green" then having a higher max consumption means something is broken.

[limpid inlet]

Nah, most of my things are idle due to not wanting to build like 20 buildings to perfectly load balance certain things

[wicked nacelle]

I like to make sure that my power production is 50% above my CURRENT consumption before starting a new factory project. That's how I feel safe usually that I won't run out of power. Then do factory expansion, then check power again for 50% buffer

[dawn path]

i think and build for "all lights must be green" but i can't be bothered to actually make the yellow lights go green 🙃

pipes are complicated, but not as scary as they seem

treat pipes and flowrate as if the water's physics based (because it kinda is in this game)

[wicked nacelle]

what recipe chain are you trying to work with?

[dawn path]

here's the glorious pipeline manual (or as i like to call it, the Holy Piple)
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[wicked nacelle]

what is "the loading thing"?

[dawn path]

one of the more important rules of thumb to keep in mind when doing pipework is to always feed machines from above (due to gravity), or else your fluids could slosh back into the system and slow your manifold

[wicked nacelle]

if it were only that easy though 🙁

[dawn path]

it can be, as long as you keep your pipe network as simple as possible
you could try doing fancy logistical stuff with them, but i recommend against that

also, when doing a pipe manifold, make sure there's no height variation 😭
it could cause... issues 😓

[wicked nacelle]

@rugged jasper what "loading thing" are you referring to?

oops, not supposed to be a reply

[flint grail]

It would be funny if there was an achievement for making your first diamond

[dawn path]

if i had to guess, it'd be that buffering circle that appears if the pipes aren't connected to any fluid

[flint grail]

Nothing to worry about

[dawn path]

yup - just make sure all your pipes are actually connected 😁

[wicked nacelle]

yeah the only issues you should have would be flow rate. Any other problems with pipes means you fundamentally missed something

[flint grail]

Raise your hand if you forgot a tiny sliver of pipe to connect

🙋‍♂️

[wicked nacelle]

They're' not buggy beyond the intended flakiness

[dawn path]

raise your hand if you "finished" the factory and completely forgot to even get started on the raw resource inputs

🙋‍♂️

[wicked nacelle]

as soon as there is any input to a pipe network it should immediately set the fluid type of the whole network

[dawn path]

yeah, common misonception is that pipes are overly buggy
they're not buggy, just overcomplicated

[wicked nacelle]

fluid buffers should not change this at all -- and they come with their own set of issues. That's super weird

[flint grail]

It's simple, if you're going up, just place a pump. It won't hurt

[dawn path]

or better yet, build a water tower

[wicked nacelle]

anyhow, you should keep your eyes open for diluted fuel or diluted packaged fuel -- you'll get literally 3x as much fuel as you're getting now from the same HOR

it's 6->12 instead of 6->4 you're getting now

[dawn path]

a high enough water tower practically removes the need for any pumps beyond that point (as long as all your pipework is below the tower, of course)

[flint grail]

I go a bit overkill and place pumps on straights too, especially when going long distances

[wicked nacelle]

don't do that

[flint grail]

Wait until you realize your factory can be more efficient

[tardy raptor]

Short Question: How can I join a single player satis game which runs on steam where the user does not have a connection to epic?

We tried the game id thing but it didn't worked

[wicked nacelle]

you can't. Pereson has to set it to multiplayer when they load the save

[flint grail]

I have power running near the pipe anyway, so again, it doesn't hurt

[wicked nacelle]

and you have to be connected to one of the two services -- either steam or epic -- to run the server with the game -- otherwise you have to start a dedicated server and do port forwarding and stuff

[flint grail]

Yeah, which is why I just under clock machines if I need to

[sullen gull]

It can hurt. Only use pumps when you need more lift. Or is trying to be "special" and control the "direction" of flow.

[gleaming dragon]

Today i learned you can put signs above the Hub storage

[tardy raptor]

she is connected to steam and can send me "Steam://<sessionidHere>" but when I copy this and past this in my field then it can't find any online session to that pasted sessionID - my satis runs over epic and my epic is connected to my steam as well so it should work shouldn't it?

[sullen gull]

A steam user can make an epic account and you can crossplay that way. An epic use can't connect to steam, but the other way around afaik

[wicked nacelle]

last I knew steam games could connect to epic but not epic to steam -- oh yeah what tinker said

[sullen gull]

Using sloops allows for 2/4x the output, while making the slooped machine use more power.

[wicked nacelle]

so have the steam player connect to epic and amke an epic://######## link