satisfactory

[tiny rivet]

OC?

[steel kelp]

Yes

[tiny rivet]

250%?

[wicked nacelle]

the planning sucks if it's not 250

[tiny rivet]

50 more warp things... so close

[sullen gull]

The plumbing sucks if it's not 250% 🤣

[steel kelp]

Yes ofc

Would be wasting my time otherwise

[tiny rivet]

144 nuclear reactors?

[ornate saffron]

86400 water per min

[tiny rivet]

we need that sippy sip

[ornate saffron]

Stay hydrated and stretch

I thinkm ill need a IV drip. we are getting 50cm of snow.

[steel kelp]

Its a lot

I’m almost done, probably need like 10-20 hours more give or take

Bulk of that is placing water extractors and connect pipes and power to them lol

[tiny rivet]

how the hell did u even manage to get all the power shards for the water extractors

[steel kelp]

Automate them?

I make 5 per minute and they feed into 3 ISCs, so i basically have unlimited lol

The supercomputers for the npps are what worry me, i should make a buffer for them

[primal obsidian]

all 6 things i needed for fuel rods are done now yay

[ornate saffron]

The Kids grow up so quick. It felt like yesterday you were asking what a smart splitter was 😭

[steel kelp]

Sink or swim

And im swimming a lot

[ornate saffron]

swim or quit for most lol

[steel kelp]

Id go insane before i quit

Cant let a silly factory game best me

[ornate saffron]

I did go insane.... considering your 86400 water i think you did too

[steel kelp]

It is completely unneeded

I still have 2 modules of that rocket fuel plant left to fill lmao

[ornate saffron]

ya i got a whole other pure oil node i setup for use and i havent

[steel kelp]

Why do that when i could just make 900gw on smth new

[gentle lion]

Got the hard drive scanner woohoo and.fpund one

[steel kelp]

I will go insane when i do ficsonium

[primal obsidian]

now i just gotta let the encased beams buffer up and then ill have fuel rods

[gentle lion]

Needed 100 mw had to build 5 bioburners and climb a weird plant

[steel kelp]

You can use interactive maps online to find them easier

Thats what i did once the novelty wore off

[gentle lion]

I used it for general location

[steel kelp]

Just go hunting w the maps, you will come back with dumb amounts of hard drives, spheres, slugs and sloops

[steel kelp]

But they tell you the exact location lol

At least for hard drives cuz theyre not in caves or anything

[gentle lion]

True

[ornate saffron]

dont forget to build a mam when you find them and check on your drive status. MAM doesnt need power

[steel kelp]

V good advice, always be scanning

[gentle lion]

It was on a little rock on top of a weird round tree /mushroom ?

[tiny rivet]

finally done

[gentle lion]

That's genius

[primal obsidian]

i love 1:1 ratios

[tiny rivet]

i got all 200 ballistic warp drives

[gentle lion]

Mercer spheres for more dimensional upgrades right ?

[primal obsidian]

acutally i have a diemesional depot i dont even need to wait for it to buffer i can jsut throw 1000 encased beams in there

[gentle lion]

Wow

[wicked nacelle]

doing fuel to turbofuel switchover... it's actuallya little stressful to make sure I don't lose pwoer

without any power storage at least

[gentle lion]

Should I do 200% or manual upload first

[wicked nacelle]

whichever seems more useful to you manual upload is something I do as soon as I get the computers though

[ornate saffron]

Both are great. Manual allows you tro upload from inventory which is great for exploring

[gentle lion]

Oh yeah I haven't made oalatic yet.

I assume I.can if i go make a oil refinery

[wicked nacelle]

yes plastic rubber unlock with oil/refinery unlock

[ornate saffron]

ya, there is a fedw ways to get plASTIC FROM OIL. I personally sstart with fuel to make more power then get the plastic from the bi product

[wicked nacelle]

I usually start with the default plastic/rubber recipes that makes coke and sink that. then also make some fuel power and turn that resin into rubber (2x better than plastic). I don't go all fuel until I get the 4 magic recipes

[ornate saffron]

fair, many ways

[reef basin]

why so many people write bi product instead of byproduct lol

[gentle lion]

Found enough plastic research high speed connectors

[wicked nacelle]

yeah alot of people smell wrong

[ornate saffron]

It is byproduct in this case, Biproduct is a mathematical term

[leaden turret]

-# 69 mkw to handle bi products

pretty sure Satisfactory is a bi-product.

[ornate saffron]

My english is just poor lol

[wicked nacelle]

by·prod·uct
/ˈbīˌprädək(t)/
noun
an incidental or secondary product made in the manufacture or synthesis of something else.

[reef basin]

doesn't contain space though

and yeah, in SF it's byproduct

[leaden turret]

bi product:

a product whose development was contributed to by bi people

[ornate saffron]

see my statement about being poor at english ^_^

[leaden turret]

english is a poor language

[leaden turret]

^this is why it's fun to dunk on the occasional hater that swings by the archive channel comments

[ornate saffron]

My French and Japanese is far worse lol

[leaden turret]

english: buffallo buffallo buffallo nonsense
japanese: haiku

english is poop.

if english weren't poop, there'd be no need for the shakespearean and pirate localisations 😛

[lean tiger]

👋 Hi, where can i report a tranlation error? on questions.satisfactorygame.com?

[dense violet]

@true mulch

[leaden turret]

oh one moment, temporal pinged me about that stuff on reddit & I have links

[dense violet]

it's 10:30am, what are you talking about

[cyan cloak]

How do I pick up a smelter

[dense violet]

you don't

[primal obsidian]

can i use a manifold for 48 nuclear reactors or should i use a load balancer whatever that means

[dense violet]

manifolds work for anythign - you can load balance if you like

[primal obsidian]

is a load balancer just a manifold but it balances instantly?

[dense violet]

if you're active in 24hr communities online and you don't turn off notifications for at least during sleep hours, that's on you

[dense violet]

no?
Manifolds rely on over flow

[ornate saffron]

You were up early too.

[dense violet]

load balancers deliver everything just on time

basically if something isn't a load balancer, it's a manifold

[primal obsidian]

so it doesent matter which?

[dense violet]

load balancers are a lot more work and space

but some people like them

[lean tiger]

oh thx, i dont think i wanna join the translator team but that thing in the menu bothered me xd

[dense violet]

something you should be aware of long before nuclear

[primal obsidian]

manifold it is

[wicked nacelle]

oh shoot. It's hard to change vehicle fuel isn't it? Because they won't pick up the new fuel type until their stacks are empty and when their stacks are empty they'll stop and not be able to pick up new fuel?

it's 3pm

i mean.. for some of us

[ornate saffron]

I go through phases..... sometimes they involve sleep paralysis

[primal obsidian]

6pm for me but its completely pitch black outside

winters

[open swallow]

holy hell insomnia and sleep paralysis.... I cut weed out cold turkey a few days and the insomnia has been mad

[ornate saffron]

I feel that. When I get to work the sun ain't up. When I leave work it has set.

[open swallow]

only today have i managed to get decent sleep

[ornate saffron]

Thats rough

[primal obsidian]

im so confused 200 fuel rods dissapeared

[open swallow]

NEVER doing that again... next time I'm tapering

[silver path]

Does anyone what happened. My friend is hosting a server and at 12pm the server restarted. Then after the restart we wanted to join again and now the whole world is reset and the whole progress is gone

[wicked nacelle]

no clue but the savegame files should still be there

like the autosaves

[silver path]

no they're all overwritten

[wicked nacelle]

well did you make any named saves?

[silver path]

nope

[tribal ingot]

there is this weird rock (not minable) on top of a node... so I can't place a miner... how do u get rid of it...

[wicked nacelle]

well yeah if you let it run so long that it overwroite all your autosaves after it broke.. dunno

[sullen gull]

Nobelisk or explosive rebar

[pliant prawn]

Happy thanksgiving y'all. Im thankful for this great game, and the cool peeps round this discord for bein' chill like that. Raise a glass yo

[silver path]

another Weird thing is that we played for 5 hours and the server is only showing 1h of playtime

[primal obsidian]

anyway to stop a drone from picking things up at a port

[wicked nacelle]

dunno but the only thing that matters is the save files. if you had a named save or stopped it shortly after it restarted wrong then you could easily fix it

[wicked nacelle]

don't send it there or don't have anything int he outgoing stacks

[silver path]

what do you mean by " or stopped it shortly after it restarted wrong"?

[dense violet]

1. don't having things in port
2. don't allow the drone to be able to drop it's full load at the other port - it'll stay there until empty

[wicked nacelle]

the game autosaves 3 times. If you stopped the server before 3*autosave-timer then you'd have valid autosaves to reload

[dense violet]

why?

[primal obsidian]

welp guess ill jsut throw a bunch of fuel into a container and hope it doesent run out cause that means all these drone ports setup for rocketfuel to power drones

[primal obsidian]

i was sending rocket fuel to a drone to fuel it but it was picking up the fuel rods i needed for nuclear

[dense violet]

that just sounds like you set thigns up wrong

[wicked nacelle]

don't share ports like that

set up a different one for dropping off fuel rods

or do the usual sushi belt overflow stuff

[silver path]

sadly we joined more then 3 times. Thank you though

[dense violet]

have dedicated fuel drones, make your life easy

[primal obsidian]

ok ill just add a drone port with its output connected to the other drone port for fuel rods

[dense violet]

sure? I guess?

[wicked nacelle]

has nothing to do with joining. Just how long it runs

[silver path]

oh ok

[wicked nacelle]

it's very common to have a "fuel runner" port at each place you use drones

which fuels itself and the other nearby drones

[primal obsidian]

yeah someone setup a bunch of drone ports for fueling other drones thats what i was using

[wicked nacelle]

and then one port at the fuel source that has no home drone -- just a spot for other drones to come and get fuel

[barren arch]

can i increase the boost from the alien power augmenter?

[south sinew]

you can build more than one

[sullen gull]

By making the Alien Matrix

[graceful basalt]

im trying to merge 9 smelters to one single line of 300 iron/min. since the mk3 belt can only transfer 270 items/min, should i try and get mk4 or is staying with mk3 negligble

[barren arch]

get mk4

its cheap to build and really useful

[south sinew]

ehm

I'd say mk3 is better value for cost, but definitely employ mk4 if you need it

[sullen gull]

Heh, consensus it out on that one is out, but I tend to agree.

[graceful basalt]

alr thx, also side question, ik having a slower transport speed with belts can cause bottlenecks, but is having belts that are too fast able to cause any problems?

[barren arch]

no

[south sinew]

well

[barren arch]

faster = better

[south sinew]

sometimes people do stuff like balancing the output of a splitter with variable speed belts

[sullen gull]

FICSIT TIP NO. 19 Faster belts don't necessarily mean faster production.

[south sinew]

but I honestly don't think that's an amazing plan

[graceful basalt]

what would be an example of that?

[south sinew]

I dunno, I've never done it

I think if you build properly then apply top tier that is affordable to everything is fine

[muted canopy]

wellll i know how to crash my friends server with a bug now

i try to dismantle a valve and poof, server down

[primal obsidian]

10 constructors need 60 each so each constructor would have mk.1 belt connected to it but the main belt everything is getting split off is mk.5

5/48 reactors done

wait actually maybe i should build waste managment before turning them on

[muted canopy]

yes yes yes, i didnt, i had 8 reactors running 24/7 before i made the waste management i had over a million stored

[hard stump]

Ugh I asked the wrong chat

What 2 pure iron nodes would be closes to X-501 Y2435 if can plz give coordinates

[dense violet]

check out the online map

[sullen gull]

Use your scanner. Or use SCIM (https://www.satisfactory-calculator.com ) if you want.

[dense violet]

or use your resource scanner ?

[hard stump]

Been doing that but can’t filter by node type. As for the map it won’t work on my phone I’m legally blind so phone size is 250% and the map just bugs out every time I try

[sullen gull]

Hold V to select type

[dense violet]

yes you can, you can click different purities (in the map)

best to just wait till you're actually playing and it matters and use your resource scanner then :\

then walk over to them

or use the browser for the map

[hard stump]

I’m on console so don’t see that option when I go thru settings

[sullen gull]

Or can also open the map immediately after scanning and mark them that way.

[hard stump]

Trying to find 2 side by side like how you can find multiple impure ones etc n idk if it’s even possible

[dense violet]

the filtering by types is with the online map - nowhere near able to open up the map for you - lap top or pad or pc for the map web browser is probably your best option

The radar towers also do... something along those lines? idk I never use them

[whole drum]

Use a high tier belt for the input and main output while the low tier belt on the feeder output limits how much can be split off.

The main reason to do this would be to reduce (or sometimes eliminate) the warm-up time for a manifold, or to ensure that diverted resources aren't overly taxing the mainline of a system.

[sonic verge]

the problem was a conveyor segment with coal on it, i place the splitter/mergers as close as possible, didnt see it lol

[primal obsidian]

radar towers are just object scanner but permanent

show purities and stuff aswell

[dense violet]

sounds useful for them

[primal obsidian]

jsut without pingint them on your compass thing

[whole drum]

I love radars

[sullen gull]

Either way, whatever your scanner button is, hold that and a wheel should pop up allowing you to scan specific resources. Then immediatly open the map and use the markers to mark the nodes you want.

[icy jetty]

radar towers need more range

to make it worth.

[sullen gull]

Only takes 15 to cover the whole map if I recall 😛

[whole drum]

Yeah, range is fine

[deep field]

would anyone perhaps like to steam family with me to allow my use of satisfactory, i plan on buyign the game but i used to family share off my ex for it and uh that ended

[whole drum]

Once you can automate all the parts for them, they are basically free outside of minor power usage.

[sullen gull]

And of course complete all the resarch up to them.

[whole drum]

Pretty easy to do

Can with just crash sites

[primal obsidian]

i have 12 and it covers most of the map

[glad quest]

I may be too alt recipe coded i was physically pained when a yt didnt use a better alt

[reef basin]

well, there's nothing like "better" 😛

[sullen gull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/zoonpl/my_optimal_radar_tower_placement_16_towers/

[dense violet]

different situations and different people can benefit from alts you don't 'like'

[glad quest]

No there are some better alts like cast screwa

[reef basin]

cast screws are not always better

[sullen gull]

Dependant on player and situation.

[dense violet]

steel iron rods > base screw is more resource efficient

[glad quest]

Less powa less iron less machines

[whole drum]

Cast screws are trap

[dense violet]

same iron

[sullen gull]

Still though Alu beam > steel screws is the goat 😛

[glad quest]

12.5 for 50

[reef basin]

that's assuming you're using vanilla recipe for rods

[glad quest]

They werr

[reef basin]

that's the same as normal screw recipe

[reef basin]

yeah but that doesn't mean cast screws are "better"

[dense violet]

base iron ingot to rod to screw = same screw per iron as iron ingot to cast screw

Steel Iron Rod > base screw is more resource efficient

[glad quest]

More power efficent

[reef basin]

again, you're assuming many things

[glad quest]

Like

[reef basin]

ignoring literally every other recipe

[glad quest]

Lol

[reef basin]

recipe on its own is never "better", you need to at least specify:

• what do you mean by better
  AND
• the whole recipe path (at which point you're comparing recipe paths/trees, not just two recipes)

you can ofc compare two recipes in a vacuum, but that comparison is pointless for practically every case

[wicked nacelle]

just hold on to recipes options until you look at what you want to do and see that a recipe makes it easier for you. Then use it. (other than the 4 key oil recipes -- and pure aluminum)

[glass pagoda]

Hello greeny how are you

[primal obsidian]

15 reactors placed out of 48

[ocean frost]

The HMF alt is really good 1/2 the machines and iron at the cost of come limestone

[graceful basalt]

would i be able to make a double manifold? so compared to a single manifold, i would add another output of the splitter to a second row of constructors

[wicked nacelle]

sure. It's just math. how much are you eating vs how much can your belts support

and you can also inject more part way down a manifold as the machines eat some of the rate (same with pipes)

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/confusing-idk-math-thinking-8bitryan-gif-20422588

[dense violet]

as in just injecting a new manifold in?
if that's the case sure, but it's still basically 2 manifolds - usually much simpler building and building a layout by clocking your machines to use what's on your line

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[primal obsidian]

bye

[glass pagoda]

Hello

[little kettle]

You can take a 480 belt and split it into two 240 manifolds, or take it even further and split it into four 120 manifolds

they're called "Hybrid Manifolds" I believe

[glass pagoda]

True but I belive the four 120 manifolds are more useful some times because it allows conveyor belts to get clogged less but it depends on what you are doing, if you are producing one item maybe 480 into 2 is good but for multiple sometimes 480 into 4 is better

[little kettle]

Yeah, and it speeds up the overflow process

[glass pagoda]

True

Manifolds are very useful but they get worse with scaleing sadly. Of course they are still great but once you get to mid game you are gonna have to use both manifolds and load balancers if you want to stay efficient but that is only late mid game Usily

[glass pagoda]

And eventually you might start using sushi belts

[wicked nacelle]

That's not true. Manifolds work fine all the time. load balancers are limited exactly the same way -- the speed of the source belt

[wicked nacelle]

those are even MORE limited because you have fewer belts

[glass pagoda]

Well manifolds have a start up time

[wicked nacelle]

that's not a limitation. And you can just pop items into machines by hand if you care about startup times

[glass pagoda]

It is if you have a mega factory where u have to manually start up like 100 different ones

[wicked nacelle]

the only limitation on anything is belt speed divided by machine consumption rate. And manifolds work great with additional resource injection points as you exceed your flow rate

and you can just not care about how long it takes for it to reach equilibrium. That's the best approach 🙂 -- just go work on something else for a while

[little kettle]

What I do with my manifolds is once it's set up, even if I don't have the next part set up, I just sink it and let everything start up and get for ready for the next stage

[wicked nacelle]

or don't sink it and let it back up -- if you have a long manifold that will fill it even faster as the earlier machines stop taking in parts

[glass pagoda]

True however at some point it will take hours to reach equilibrium. I mean I think manifolds are better but if you have to make an item that produces not a lot per craft then sushi belts tend to be slightly better

[wicked nacelle]

sushi belts are manifolds -- or at least CAN be manifolds. They don't intrinsically fix anything

[glass pagoda]

Or you can just rest your head and do whatever you want because it's ur choice after all

[glass pagoda]

They smell good

[wicked nacelle]

You CAN load balance a sushi belt but that's no different than load balancing 1 belt per item type

Not going to argue that 🙂 and they look sexy.. but they take a while to set up and any issues with production cause problems down stream that must be manually rectified vs just fixing production

[glass pagoda]

I put sushi on my sushi belts

So they smell good

Can't argue that

[glass pagoda]

Im sorry?

Sexy?

[wicked nacelle]

yep, schwing

[glass pagoda]

Eh whatever ima go back to licking sushi of my belt

[wicked nacelle]

droop

[open swallow]

licking sushi off the belt is considered a faux pas

please consider removing the plate from the belt and eating it in front of you, with chopsticks

[south canyon]

are lizard doggos actually cars

do they have gears?
i saw one slowly walk towards me, then get faster twice

Because if they're cars, that would explain their playful and joyous behaviour

[wicked nacelle]

but then they want you to pay for it 😛

[open swallow]

not if you just walk out

[south canyon]

also how can I easily get doggos

[dense violet]

!wikisearch doggo

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=doggo

[south canyon]

we should have a machine that keeps lizard doggos hostage

and forces them to find items

[dense violet]

that's just foundations and walls

[south canyon]

no, with a conveyor output too

[sullen gull]

There's a mod for that

[south canyon]

video games other than minecraft have mods? what? how?

[wicked nacelle]

are you on PC? https://ficsit.app/

[south canyon]

yes

oh, lizzard doggos respawn

[wicked nacelle]

you grab the mod manager install mods activate them then start the game and boom there they are

[sullen gull]

I like that SMM makes it super easy to also turn them off/on and the profiles are good if you have different friends' servers that may have different mods setups.

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's a nice mod manager, no issues here

[cursive kernel]

file for this blueprint is missing error?

[wicked nacelle]

never heard of that -- sounds like the file was removed after the game was started and it scanned the blueprint file directory? Just a guess though

[sullen gull]

When you downloaded it, did you download both the .sbp and .sbpcfg?

[cursive kernel]

i made it then saved it then tried to load it

[wicked nacelle]

that's extra weird

are you out of hard drive space?

[sullen gull]

A blueprint is 18kb ... at best 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

do you have a girlfriend? I hear they cause problems 😛

shrug

[sullen gull]

Oh, no, I have some that are lilke 64kb lol

[wicked nacelle]

that's super weird never heard of anyone here having this problem -- either one of them actually

[sullen gull]

Screenshots?

[wicked nacelle]

could it be a bad translation? @cursive kernel are you using English language?

[south canyon]

can't wait til satisfactory gets native ARM64 binaries

[wicked nacelle]

why?

[south canyon]

apple sillicon and windows gaming

also steam frame

[wicked nacelle]

does UE support that yet?

I guess it probably would

[cursive kernel]

check in https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1038092680493801533

[wraith sage]

So uh I kinda had a playthrough where I got to around tier 3 on the space elevator but I rushed and everything was unorganized so I wanna make a new playthrough but I don’t wanna have to deal with early game maunually fueling biofuel burners and stuff so what can I do?

[dense violet]

jsut delete what you have now?

[wraith sage]

But I don’t wanna have to start back from scratch

[dense violet]

also after you've done hte start once it's a lot faster. Just bunch 10,000 leaves and you're basically set until coal power

[wicked nacelle]

don't start over just move somewhere else and use what you've built to build again faster.

[dense violet]

so you want a fresh empty map with nothing in it, but also not having ot build a factory at that stage

sounds like you have a real problem there.

[wicked nacelle]

just pull some power lines from what you have now to a new location and go wild!

cuz you're going to hate what you build next time, too 🙂 It's a never ending cycle of hating what you just built

[ocean frost]

1. Upload your save to SCIM
2. Spawn in geothermal generators
3. Download save
   4 use geothermal for early game power

You can also spawn in a coal or fuel gen facility as an alternative

[gentle lion]

Satisfactory tools the resource limit is the per minute number?

Ok becaue I was like damn those are crazy numbers on that build lol

[wicked nacelle]

you can change them

[gentle lion]

Just found it

Kinda neat what it does.

[azure lintel]

do you know if in December they will run FICSMAS again?

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's every year. And you can get a mod that turns it on too (on pc)

I mean technically I don't know... but I'd be shocked if they didn't

[azure lintel]

we had an old save that is very laggy in MP

so I was thinking to start fresh one

and yea, we use dedicated server

[wicked nacelle]

it's been every year since they introduced it and last year they put a lot of effort into it... so....

[azure lintel]

it just that there were no prior announcements

and it will be in 3 days

[wicked nacelle]

it's presumably going to be exactly the same as last year so I'm guessing that's why it wasn't announced

[gentle lion]

Looks like consoles will have it as well Yay
Is it fun? What does it give you

[wicked nacelle]

it's.. funish. It's just a distraction and you can't do most of it until the very end... but it's ... cute

They could have done worse.

[gentle lion]

Great I get distracted easy enough

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's def fun to do once.

not sure there's any replay value and that's coming from someone who's played through the game probably 8 times

[azure lintel]

I kinda want more fixes to dedicated server, as it has more problems that is not present in SP

[dense violet]

That's just an unreasonable demand

[hard stump]

Ok trains
Stations is it 1 station per item?

[dense violet]

1 platform per car you want to interact with

[ocean frost]

Basically, you can mix but it's not recommended for normal operations

You can use the filter to offload but at that point just make a separate train or make the train one slot longer

[wicked nacelle]

One freight platform per item type gives you the most power to control what goes on

If you do multiple item types in a car you either have to waste items or perfectly control ratios to consumption

[pine patrol]

the rad hogs dying eyes seeing me eat 50 beryl nuts and walking off all its radiation charging headbutts and rock throwing

[cunning lily]

Maybe Ficsmas drops with 1.2?

[white dawn]

Nah, v1.2 will hopefully be first half of next year (which to me means we're unlikely to see it until April at the earliest)

April would be a poor time to start up FICSMAS. :P

[cunning lily]

Lolololol. Oh man. I got my details wrong then, I though 1.2 was slated for end ot Nov/early Dec.

[charred sandal]

is hover pack finicky on rail tracks for anyone else usually

[deep field]

could uh, someone family share with me on steam, i used to with my ex but now hes my ex so i cant rlly play satisfactory and i dont have the money to buy it rn

[charred sandal]

Rip

[deep field]

please speed i need this

im yearning for automation rn

[wicked nacelle]

first, no. Second, you can't just family share randomly - it checks to see if you are from the same small area -- it will just say "no"

[deep field]

except me and my ex were 7 states away

[charred sandal]

Yall meet on WoW, or Runescape?

[wicked nacelle]

well it's different now

[deep field]

no its not?

i literally was playing a game from a friends family like yesterday

[wicked nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1cncm4v/valve_has_silently_added_a_same_household/ -- dunno what to tell you other than begging is tacky

and it absolutely rejects you from family sharing (maybe just starting) if you're not very close

[deep field]

damn no way

wait

are you slow? that was 2 years ago

i did the famiyl share with my ex 8 months ago and the one with my friend like 2 weeks ago

[charred sandal]

Wonder why ya'll broke up

[deep field]

uh he cheated and was lowk a h0e

[charred sandal]

wonder why he cheated

[deep field]

and iwasnt using him for family share, i didnt even know u could share games

[deep field]

uhhh cuz hes a h0e and has done this with every partner

why bro tryna twist that to "because i family shared a game"

[charred sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/leopard-big-cat-big-kitty-yawn-yawning-gif-6198685

[hard stump]

Omg this game makes me feel stupid I can’t be bothered to even try this math

[deep field]

theres a site that does it for u

for satisfactory but i forgot the name

[wicked nacelle]

It’s just multiplication and division

Satisfactory tools and satisfactory calculator

[deep field]

ye that

[wicked nacelle]

Calculator one also has a very powerful map

May people prefer the tools site for the planner though. I don’t but they do

[hard stump]

Just about all these sites idk don’t work using a mk 2 minder 2 of them so 480 ore so 16 smelters total I want to to plates robs reinforced plates modular frames screws. But can’t for the life of me do the math on how many constructors need to make plates need to make robs and screws

[wicked nacelle]

You can always just make some and see if it's enough. It doesn't have to start out perfect

[graceful basalt]

im trying to make a coal power plant, and im struggling with how to split my 7 mk2 miners (2 pure, 4 normal, and 1 impure) into 4 manifolds since i only have mk3 belts

[wicked nacelle]

an approach is to just make the machines to make the final product you want... then make the stuff to feed it. And if it starves for something make more of that

[wicked nacelle]

just think of it as groups of 8 - that's a really good number for both coal and water

I think that's 120 coal and 360 water, so that's really easy

don't try to conceptualize the whole thing -- just make repeated groupings of 8

[graceful basalt]

what do you mean groupings of 8?

[wicked nacelle]

8 coal gens

put down 8 and feed them what they need. Put down another 8 feed them... etc

[hard stump]

Help lol

[wicked nacelle]

you may also find that your belts can't match your miners-- in which case you're limited to your belt speed for that miner for now (especially if you overclock your coal miners)

a pure coal node mk2 miner overclocked does 600/m and you need mk5 belt to support that so if you only have mk4 you can only get 480/m out of it

and if you do it like this wiki says you can feed 8 coal gens with 3 water extractors (at 100%)

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[wicked nacelle]

otherwise you can just use 2 waters to feed each 4 coal gens if you want it symmetric/simpler

[graceful basalt]

mainly my problem is trying to figure out how to spread out the input to the generators so it doesnt get backlogged. because i produce 1020 coal/min, which is 68 generators. my first idea was to merge all of the 7 miners into one belt, and just do a regular manifold, but that would be immediately backlogged, so i was going to try and make 4 manifolds with mk3 belts, but i dont know how to seperate it

[wicked nacelle]

so that' swhat I'm saying. break it down into groups of 8

also I'd suggest not making 68 coal gens. You're going to get to the next level of power way before you use that much power. Start with 16 and then add 8 at a time if you need more power before you unlock the next phase

the next tier of power drastically outclasses coal

[wicked nacelle]

also the math will get TONS easier when you unlock mk4 belts (which should be in your current phase)

[dense violet]

what's your belt speed?

put as many generators on 1 belt from 1 miner as is convenient - done

[dense violet]

throughout the whole entire game you have to pay attention to pipe and belt limits - you very very often have to make multiple systems and multiple manifolds to have more throughpout

[wicked nacelle]

he said his belt speed

[gentle lion]

Setting up a sorting system for all the junk you gather while exploring basically make a central line of smart splitters and storage containers on each side , leaving the central one with no filter all the way down the line

[cunning lily]

You might find that a series of mergers and load balancers can work for you, working within your extraction limits. Mk3 belts do what again... 370 or something weird like that? That's three belts to cover 1020. And that can be split in four then too. 255/belt at final.

[gentle lion]

Overflow with smart splitter , so you have storage for say screws , you set one to screws one to overflow, of storage is full then it will go to overflow split to wherever ?

[sullen gull]

Lol, I have a blueprint I can send you may like 😏

[gentle lion]

As I'm on console I'm guessing you can't.

[sullen gull]

Ahh, shame

[gentle lion]

Yes very lol

[sullen gull]

#design-and-architecture message

[gentle lion]

I just need to get a new pc lol

[gentle lion]

That is amazing an looks extremely complicated lol

[sullen gull]

Not so much complicated as much as tedious and time consuming to make lol

[gentle lion]

I hit mam research hard earlier

Bunch of quartz , caterium and sulfur stuff

Need to do the one for cloth /parachute

[sullen gull]

You can complete quite a bit early on by just going hard drive hunting .

[gentle lion]

Yep just unlocked that for the scanner

[sullen gull]

I say once to have parachute, blade runners, basher, and parachute, you can explore plenty.

Especially if you have the explorer

[gentle lion]

The vehicle ?

I unlocked that too

[dawn storm]

sick just found a crash i think

[gentle lion]

Need to Mle the basher I keep forgetting to grab more wire lol

[sullen gull]

It's helpful to setup a small Liquid bio setup for use as jetpack andd vehicle fuel as well.

[gentle lion]

I just unlocked the oil stuff is that what I need for that

Unlocking jetpack next time I get on have the stuff just get sidetracked easily lol

[sullen gull]

Nope, you could've made Liquid Bio Fuel earlier on.

[wicked nacelle]

Liquid biofuel is the best fuel before turbo fuel. With turbo fuel it’s better for some things and it’s automated

[gentle lion]

Wait just water and solid biofuel in a refinery ?

So I need storage and smart splitter with 2 constructors for leaves / wood into solid biomass into constructor for solid biofuel into a refinery?

[sullen gull]

Standard storage container and DD is MORE than you would need for a while.. Unless you used it to fuel vehicles., But, you're past that point now and would be better to go with oil 😛

Especially rocket fuel if going hard on MAM research.

[gentle lion]

I I haven't built any oil stuff yet it's a bit of a trek from where I am

[sullen gull]

The scale is awesome for sure, but it's not so bad. Especially if you make a hypertube cannon 😏 ... once you have the parachute or jetpack of course 🙂

[gentle lion]

I'm the red line lol #screenshots message

BRB looking up the cannon

[white dawn]

I still prefer mostly sticking to ground-based transit; cannons are just a bit too immersion-breaking for me (though they're undeniably popular)

My ideal remains a well-connected rail network and hopping on a passenger train. Lots of fun scenery to enjoy on the trip!

[gentle lion]

That cannon looks crazy

But yeah as you can see I'm a long way from oil lol

[dense violet]

the game does force you to spread out and use it's logistics options 🙂

[gentle lion]

Northeast or northwest for oil ...🤔

I'm assuming the direct east is the blue crater

[sullen gull]

Ugh, I wish they would hurry up and get fiber round here.... 20mb upload is stoooopid...

[gentle lion]

I have fiber lol

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message (Older save, ignore the "spoilers :P)

[sullen gull]

Sure sure, rub it in ...

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-whatever-over-it-forget-gif-23166016

[gentle lion]

That's crazy

Slow tonight only 200 up

Fiber lol

[sullen gull]

oh ... 🤣 . hush

[gentle lion]

Down is 122 up is 200 plug my ps5 directly into ethernet

[sullen gull]

1.22gb I assume...

[gentle lion]

Att has their shit together on fiber

Gonna check out pain is bad today have a good one

[sullen gull]

Heh, shitty cable... supossed to be 1gb down.... 641dn, 21 up 🤦‍♂️

[wicked nacelle]

my cable modem is 2gb symmetric

only to state that you don't need fiber to get good speeds

wait... what? this is weird, but still the poitn standshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443842294540144712/image.png?ex=692a8a6c&is=692938ec&hm=f00cff97db774a41f03af97f2e15d33f5bce78cb85ba4aa42a9dd45fe19b126a&

[sullen gull]

Er, cable can only do 1gb up with DOCSIS 3.1

[wicked nacelle]

i have docsis 4

[sullen gull]

That 1.2 is some lying juju 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

yeah actually that's wrong because I just did a speed test and got 2.2gb down

[sullen gull]

Anywho, company here has had a monopoly on the internet around here for years. Finally seems to be letting up though thankfully.

[wicked nacelle]

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS it appears 3.1 can do more than 1gb down

[sullen gull]

I was referring to upload speeds

[wicked nacelle]

ah yes. I have docsis 4

just had to upgrade the modem for the upload rate

[sullen gull]

Yeah, they recenly sold our support out to india.. couldn't add an upgraded 3.1 for nothing. (one with 2.5g on the lan side)

It's funny as I use to work their supoort back in 2001 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

the xfinity docsis 4 modem has a 10g copper port.

[sullen gull]

Annny who, can move to #off-topic-general if you want. Wort sort of factory are YOU building today? 😏

[wicked nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443843700500201482/image.png?ex=692a8bbb&is=69293a3b&hm=bef47cab15003c79e7e92f2a57712abd59f8d0c16bc2578b93d06bb524b62e25& /offtopic

pretending this is on topic I don't get even gigabit from steam when downloading satisfactory updates, so...

[heavy pine]

Kids these days don't know how good you've got it. Why back in my day, I could get on a dialup BBS for 60 minutes per day and downloading a single 1.44MB floppy disk's worth of data took up the whole 60 minutes.

[wispy spoke]

yo is this a bug or the coal generator in my world sometimes doesnt take in coal at all

it just idles

[heavy pine]

Does it also have water?

[wispy spoke]

yeah

i have to manually give it coal and the conveyor picks it up

where can i upload

[sullen gull]

Heh, BBS's ... tear the "good ol' days .... 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

never heard of that bug.

[wispy spoke]

its weird just random machines stop accepting coal

i uploaded it there can you check

[wicked nacelle]

that doesn't look like coal?

oh nm wrong screeny

[merry granite]

Try removing and replacing the belt?

[wicked nacelle]

yeah do that. cuz yeah that's f'd up.

[wispy spoke]

yeah ill replace all of em with mk2 ones maybe that fixes it

[wicked nacelle]

as soon as you took it off the belt it started working -- before you even put it in manually -- it instantly started burning it had "no coal" but it was burning the 1 that got in

[fierce granite]

Known bug in the version of game you are running.

[wispy spoke]

is there a fix

[fierce granite]

update your game

[wicked nacelle]

is this a console issue? I've never seen anything like this on pc. glad it's fixed though cuz that'd piss me off

[fierce granite]

the version that is running in that video is 1.0, was fixed in 1.0.0.1

#patch-notes message

[wicked nacelle]

sure enough. yeah the version number in the video is 1.0. Good catch wow

[wicked nacelle]

htf are you still running 1.0???

[merry granite]

offline play?

[fierce granite]

i remember it happening to people, so i was guessing and confirmed with the version number

[wicked nacelle]

oooh yeah... VERY offline play. as in a version that won't update. (most likely just guessing)

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-of-thieves-sot-galleon-shanties-shanty-gif-19210044

[wicked nacelle]

yep --- yeah took me a while

[wicked nacelle]

yeah, we won't be answering any more of your questions until it's clear you're ont he current build

pirating games?

[sullen gull]

To be fair, I didn't notice it either. I was too busy trying to watch what the heck was going on as it was happening soo faast 😛

[wicked nacelle]

no clue cuz I would frequently leave it on overnight until I learned how to do time speed up

[sullen gull]

Ooo, How u do that? 😛

[wicked nacelle]

steam says https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553550313533997057/1443856132996202508/image.png?ex=692a974f&is=692945cf&hm=a59c47f5819f3957740f404e868dc9ead57ac75c77b9b2387f61e0f89570875f&

[wicked nacelle]

I use CheatEngine

[merry granite]

why would you need to idle the game

[sullen gull]

Ahh ok

[wicked nacelle]

you just point it at the satisfactory process and say "change time" and set a slider

[sullen gull]

I did see that one

[wicked nacelle]

If you try it and you get herky jerky results ask me about it -- I have to do a weird "incantation" to get it to work running an older version first that crashes before I run the current version

also, it only actually works up to about 5x speed for me. Then it... partially gets faster and partially doesn't

[sullen gull]

Ahh yeah/no, I have no need for "instant gratification". I've got the patience of a boulder 😛

[wicked nacelle]

but anyhow, at 2x speed the game is so much better. hoverpack is wonderful

faster than that it's too easy to take fall damage - jetpack is really hard to control

[sullen gull]

I just use pakutils and !fly mode in a crative 😛

[wicked nacelle]

what is that? pakutils

I push a button move a slider and push another button -- hardly haxxoring

[sullen gull]

https://ficsit.app/mod/UtilityMod

[wicked nacelle]

https://ficsit.app/mod/UtilityMod

oh okay yea

just scimming along without a care in the world?

[random garnet]

Well this is a problem I didn’t take into consideration for my big storage hub sorting all the resources into their respective crates to well so now ima have to just have the train station merge all 4 lines into one that loops around the storage area lol

[wicked nacelle]

you can just use splitters/mergers if you're trying ot make infinite length lifts

[stone python]

not as clean as a single lift into the atmosphere

[wicked nacelle]

though they do offset the snap points by half a "unit" each time so if you want to get it back on original snap points you just do it twice

[wicked nacelle]

that's exactly what it is

put a splitter at the top delete the head make a new splitter off that at full height delete the splitter, repeat

that's what what I said does

and its easier

[stone python]

disagree

way easier to do floor hole

[wicked nacelle]

doesn't the floor hole have to be placed ahead of time and at the right height? maybe I don't know how to do that

so you can connect it? anyhow even if not it can't be significantly easier than using a splitter

[sullen gull]

#screenshots message

[stone python]

going up: place foundation, zoop to desired height, delete middle foundations, place floor hole, do trick

[wicked nacelle]

yeah that's way harder than what I said unless you're going up kilometers

I guess maybe if you're doing sky stuff

but if you just want one that's like 3 lifts high using splitters is significantly faster

[stone python]

agree

and it doesnt sound like it produces a single unified lift

[wicked nacelle]

it absolutely does

[stone python]

do you have a video showing? cause ive never seen it done that way before

my interest is piqued

[wicked nacelle]

no. just try it

make a lift put a splitter on it delete one side and put a new lift on it then delete the splitter

[stone python]

that doesnt make sense

[wicked nacelle]

I don't know any other way to explain it sorry

[stone python]

its ok, ill see if i can find a yt video

doesnt help im drunk as well, so maybe when i sober up in the morning it will make more sense

[sullen gull]

It's not really the same thing, or the reason I suggested it a while ago in the first place.

[hard ivy]

That sounds like way more work than just 2 floor holes

[sullen gull]

What he is referring it is to split lifts between floors.

Which does kind of suck due to the .5m offest

[wicked nacelle]

or useful if your floors are off 🙂

[stone python]

ok, so what are the steps again? i loaded my game and wana try it out

[wicked nacelle]

make a lift.

[sullen gull]

I know how to space things 😏 , they're never "off" anymore 🤣

[wicked nacelle]

place a vertical splitter on the lift - normally near the top

delete the top of your lift above the splitter.

Place a new max height lift starting at the vertical splitter

delete the vertical splitter

[stone python]

ahhhh, ok, i forgot about the new verticle splitter

[sullen gull]

The reason I suggested it was due to Zena's lifts stepped down in the left of this frame: #screenshots message

[stone python]

i was thinking the old ones before they added them

and was super confused

ya, this is actually really nice, ngl

[wicked nacelle]

anyhow I didn't know about the floor hole trick and for more than 3 lifts high that's probably faster 🙂

[stone python]

it was the only way to do it vanila pre vertical spliter

[wicked nacelle]

OIC - yeah I didn't ever do it before because I didn't know it was possible

[stone python]

so for 99% of the time the game has been out

ill do it this way from now on, cause it is faster that vanilla zooping a tonf of foundations and then deleting

thanks for the infoooooo

[wicked nacelle]

but there is a gotcha which is it offsets the snap points for vertical splitter/mergers by half a unit so if you want it back at the original heights you have to do it an even number of times. If you just want to up a bunch then it doesn't matter

[sullen gull]

I just use vertical nudging any more 😛

[wicked nacelle]

I hate vehicles

Unless you set them up very carefully they're just worse belts

[icy jetty]

year 99 of playing satisfactory: i am convinced the devs merely reskinned their beta as 1.0 to get more money because wow there's so much bs with the games core building mechanics

[wicked nacelle]

and it would be faster to just run the belts. The only time I'd want them is if I were doing a peaceful run and I'd just use them to get animal parts

[wicked nacelle]

I mean they literally added a phase....

if you mean in terms of bugs then.. I dunno. they fixed a bunch and added a bunch. It's always been relatively polished for a small budget open world game

not subnautica level polish but not subnautica level simplicity either

[sullen gull]

I was looking at that the other day.... worth it?

[wicked nacelle]

the original? Oh hell yes. The sequel? Probably not

[icy jetty]

i can't go one fricken tiny project, without something about this game not screwing me over because i expected it to work as it should

[sullen gull]

LIke what?

[wicked nacelle]

Liquids are a bit wonky but... shrug

[icy jetty]

well lifts, the grid system. they seem to hate each other.

if i use a passthrough hole on the lift, itthe spliter won't align with the lift's splitter because it's half a Fricken meter off annnnnd for some dang reasons the devs thought "hey you know how everything almost can be Ctrl+nudged? well fuck that guy. let's make this lift splitter not do that because i like making players waste time"

[wicked nacelle]

yeah it's annoying. Just do the thing again and it will offset by the same amount again and fix itselfl.

You can jsut use a vertical splitter and restart your lift again and it will do that offset

then delete the splitter

and if you have to do it a lot consider blueprinting it

[icy jetty]

this game is out of 1.0, shit like this shouldn't be happening

[wicked nacelle]

I'd rather they keep adding features rather than try to nail down every QOL issue so I'm pretty happy with it. And like I said there's a workaround so I've never found it that frustrating

it's a very ambitious game for a small team and it's not priced like a AAA game either

[hard ivy]

They're always just worse belts. If you don't set them up carefully, they don't work at all

[icy jetty]

i'd rather not have to figure out all their jank than get more content

[wicked nacelle]

TECHNICALLY you can add multiple vehicles to the same path and get more throughput without more work

I usually run foundations every however many meters and use floor holes to connect a bunch going vertically

You can blueprint it and use autoconnect

[hard ivy]

You're capped to 2 belts per station regardless. 100 times out of 100 I'd rather run 2 belts than set up a truck route

[icy jetty]

annnd you have to get fuel to them

[wicked nacelle]

that's true. Technically you could put two pickup stations and two dropoff stations and just have the trucks hit both... but yeah. they're bad. I'm doing a no trains no drones run just so I can confidently say vehicles suck 🙂

I mean I'm building huge multistory road systems just to get multiple item types from places without having to sink excess doing sushi trucks

[icy jetty]

petition to replace trucks with minecraft carts and rails

[hasty dragon]

Game's unplayable #screenshots message

[hard ivy]

You have to plan for that regardless. If you record a route with 1 stop in mind, you'll have to re-record it to use 2.

Same with belts. If you plan ahead of time, you can just pull a bundle of however many belts you want all at the same time. And if you don't, you gotta do the same work again

[wicked nacelle]

MAYBE you could just toss a station load/unload zone in the way of an existing path long enough? But yeah I'm totally with you

and I usually have to go back and clean up my paths if they're in the open world (vs foundation roads)

ALSO changing their fuel type is really painful -- because they won't pick up the new fuel type til they're empty and they won't get to the fuel pickup if they're empty

maybe the same problem with drones but I always have rocket fuel by then

[hard ivy]

Afaik they don't physically store the fuel in an actual slot, so it's possible they can mix fuels. But idk if they actually can

[wicked nacelle]

you're right that they don't store the fuel but I think they do remember it

oh another nice thing about blueprinting for vertical pipes is that you can include the pumps on them and if you're running multiple pipes you can combine the power of multiple pumps in a blueprint so you only have to drag one power connection up with it. I'll often have two I alternate between - one with pumps and one without because a mk2 will get you far enough you don't need it every one.

[fluid sapphire]

you missed the extra space between the dash and "discontinue"

[tranquil hemlock]

when can i start automate things? i just dont think biomass burner is a reliable energy source

[tall lantern]

you can still automate production at that point

you'll get access to automated power in Tier 3

[fluid sapphire]

just start small, you can scale up when you get coal power

[tranquil hemlock]

i see

where can i get the coal for the cpp tho? is there a mine for it?

[wicked nacelle]

do you have chainsaw yet? Get that then chop down a ton of wood and put it in a container. Feed that into a constructor to make biomass then into another to make solid biofuel. If you got enough wood it will last you a LONG time

[tranquil hemlock]

nah i havent

[tall lantern]

same as every other ore: resource nodes

[wicked nacelle]

you have to unlock it after sending 50 smart plates up the elevator

[wicked nacelle]

get the chainsaw -- you need that to get a lot of wood and wood is the best easy source of biofuel

you'll be set for a long time jsut getting like 20 stacks of wood

and then you can automate the solid biofuel out of the constructor into a bunch of bioburners

make sure you get solid biofuel, too

!wikisearch chainsaw

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=chainsaw

[wicked nacelle]

unlcoked in the hub: Unlocked by
Tier 2 - Obstacle Clearing

[muted apex]

Hi! Sorry to cut in, but could anyone help me with setting up power switches in my factory?

[tranquil hemlock]

alright

[hard ivy]

Or at least biomass. There's a huge jump from leaves/wood to biomass. Not nearly as much going from biomass to solid biofuel

[wicked nacelle]

what are you having problems with? also, they're completely unnecessary

[hard ivy]

And cause issues with the Hoverpack

[wicked nacelle]

you get a lot of belt efficiency from solid biofuel though and you're limited on belt speed early game (maybe it doesn't really matter though)

[hard ivy]

True. With mk1/2 belts, it makes things easier

[muted apex]

I'm setting up a factory to make 5 thermal propulsion rockets a minute and I wanted to try and make a control room where I could monitor throughput and switch systems on and off along with a main powerswitch to turn off the whole thing if need be. The problem I'm having is getting the power to go from the ''main switch'' to the other switches

[wicked nacelle]

there's just two power hookups on the switch -- hook one side to outside power source one side to inside machines... I think??? I'm confused that you're confused thinking that I might misremember something

[muted apex]

Can you send pictures in this channel?

[wicked nacelle]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057

[hard ivy]

If you want a control room, unfortunately you'll have to run one wire per switch

[wicked nacelle]

the smart switch lets you control other smart switches remotely, right?

that's what I use to turn on/off my offline power storage emergency fund

[hard ivy]

But also, if you have multiple power grids in the factory, you will not be using the hoverpack in it

Every time it switches grids, everything will go idle for 5 seconds (except constructors and converters)

[muted apex]

I don't really use the hoverpack anyway

Also, figured it out. The worlds power grid wasn't showing up because I just didn't turn on the main switch

[wicked nacelle]

makes sense 🙂

[reef basin]

depends what you want to post

if you have a question about something, use #1038092680493801533
if you have a math related query, #math-and-meta
if you want to talk about design, #design-and-architecture
if you want to share a pic of your base and have others look at it (without discussion), #screenshots
if you want to share fan art, #fan-art
for memes there's #satisfactory-memes
for non-meme offtopic things there's #off-topic-media

[muted apex]

Thanks a lot!

[hard ivy]

A fellow LBF enjoyer or AGS flight mode?

[muted apex]

Sorry, I have no clue what those acronyms mean 😅

[hard ivy]

Liquid biofuel and advanced game settings, respectively

[muted apex]

I use LBF when building and rocket fuel to go exploring

[hard ivy]

Until I modded the Hoverpack to be better, that's basically what I did. Except ionized instead of rocket

[muted apex]

I haven't gotten to ionized yet, isn't it meant to be rocket fuel with LBF longevity though?

[hard ivy]

LBF is for long flight time and fine control - basically building.

Rocket fuel is the fastest but ionized isn't much slower and lasts as long as LBF. Higher vertical too

[wicked nacelle]

the only thing I really use jetpack for is maintaining hypertube cannon speed -- ionized is best and lets you turn quickly while maintaining the speed -- you can trivially take a cannon that's pointing the wrong way and just not care

[crisp mortar]

Does the rad suit work the same way as the gas mask?

[sterile blade]

Yes, but with different filters and without overlapping as equipment (they have different slots)

[fiery pewter]

Hrm

This will go bad

I am still in phase 1, and the constructor recipe for biomass out of wood creates 300 wood

Only have mk2 belts tho

So I have put a splitter there as close as possible

And have split it into 3

But idk how well it will work

[sterile blade]

Constructors using biomass take it at 120/min iirc...
So, why split below that throughput? ^^

[fiery pewter]

Well, I have 3 of those for that wood biomass constructor, each underclocked to only use 100 biomass per minute. The constructor that makes biofuel out of grass biomass is at 50%, splits into 3, mergers each of those 3 belts with one of the other 3, to make 3 lines of 60 solid biofuel which can, hypothetically, run 15 biomass burners per belt, adding up to 45 burners and 1350 MW

[sterile blade]

You should think this through a bit more, step by step...
What does the Wood Constructor need to output items? 😉

[fiery pewter]

Belt

[sterile blade]

And that carries...?

[fiery pewter]

Specifically, the mark 4

[sterile blade]

Confusion noises

[fiery pewter]

Lol

[sterile blade]

What belt are you using...?

[fiery pewter]

Mk2

I have yet to make the space elevator

I technically need the mk4 to run the system at max efficiency

[sterile blade]

So, yeah... That's how much that machine can output ^^
You can still approach this in different ways too, though: making more wood constructors; clocking the production line based on max throughput aviable... And so on ^^

[fiery pewter]

No I'm going to do it the hard way :3

I've also nearly finished the thing

[sterile blade]

Oh, so crafting bench it is

[fiery pewter]

Why

[sterile blade]

"The hard way" 😆

[fiery pewter]

No I mean like

FAFO

I'm just going the one machine

[sterile blade]

Yeah, I get it, do your thing, I'm just teasing you ^^

[fiery pewter]

The biomass plant will also not be needed for long

It's not going to run full capacity anyway

[sterile blade]

It can always be nice to have some backup power generators 😉 (I suggest against dismantling them)

[fiery pewter]

It's more going to sit idle until I want to start 2 coal power plants at once

I'm just going to let my most important production lines go 1 at a time

So that most of the biomass going in the machine will be stored

That's what I like about biomass generators

They only create the power you need

So with 45 of them

Biofuel usage will be very low

-# I hope

It will also be the tallest building in my starter base

[hasty dragon]

Oh I didn't miss that, but it wasn't my screenshot lmao

[true mulch]

Why me?

[dense violet]

You know stuff. And it’s why they pay you the big bucks

[true mulch]

I wish

[exotic garnet]

hi will there ever be a thing like update 9

[true mulch]

Forwarded to McGalleon as it was a report to German

[hard ivy]

1.0 was the 9th major update

[true mulch]

Will there be an iPhone 9?

[hard ivy]

Or windows 9

[true mulch]

U8 was followed by 1.0, then 1.1 and so on

[dense violet]

They pay you in blue letters

[exotic garnet]

i know nothing abouth i phone and have no opinion over it

[muted apex]

Would've been so much nicer if update 10 was 1.0 though, don't you think?

[hard ivy]

You're about 2 years too late to complain about that

[reef basin]

technically 1.0 was 10th major update

since 0.3.5 was a major update as well

[muted apex]

It doesn't bother me, just would've been so nice

[exotic garnet]

well time for me to stream again hopefully my internet wont brother me like last time

[median geyser]

Can multiple MAMs be used to bypass the 10min timelock on harddrives?

[reef basin]

no

[hard ivy]

All MAMs share everything

[reef basin]

MAMs are interconncted

[median geyser]

Didnt think so, but a man can dream

[hard ivy]

You start a timer in one, it's also there in all the others

Imagine building 20 MAMs to scan 20 drives at once

[median geyser]

Damn bro why you gotta call me out like that?

[exotic garnet]

yayayayyayayayayyayyayay

[hard ivy]

The Devs clearly didn't think so when they didn't name it 0.4

[reef basin]

depends if you mean "major update" or "major update" 🙂

[exotic garnet]

having multiple mam to bypass timers make game unfair so i like that's its not in the game

overclocked ?

then that's what it means

its over clocked

[dense violet]

blue light indicates you over clocked it

[exotic garnet]

yep

[median geyser]

Does that apply to all degrees of overclocking?

[tall lantern]

then that one's probably not overclocked

or at least hasn't finished a crafting cycle while overclocked, I know other stuff doesn't kick in until after the current cycle completes

[dense violet]

It looks like it might be slooped

[hard ivy]

Yeah, if it's set to anything above 100% and running, it's white/blueish

[median geyser]

#screenshots message Man how tf do they have amazing stuff like this tucked right outside the killzone

Id kill for a map expansion, some of the stuff just outside the boundaries looks so amazing

[leaden turret]

that's just there to look pretty

[hard ivy]

My ADHD brain just reminded me that in the last video they might've hinted at what the "new game mode" is gonna be: randomised node types

[median geyser]

The Game: Build bigger. Faster. More efficient. Bigger. More. Always more.

The devs: "Lets hide the prettiest, most wide open areas we've designed, perfect for monumental factory buildings, outside the map. Fuck em" 😂

[hard ivy]

I was struggling to figure out what a "new game mode" might change that'd still fit in the game and yeah, that would work

[leaden turret]

it either didn't used to be there or wasn't as good-looking, was added with the unreal engine 5 update using nanite

[hard ivy]

Now do that sustained :)

[wicked nacelle]

don't forget to sink double-slooped dna

[marble gulch]

What do U use

[hard ivy]

I should be around 5-10 Mp/min sustained. Can't check rn though

[marble gulch]

Both please

[random garnet]

Has anyone here ever used a Central storage before where everything comes in via trains?

[hard ivy]

Someone? Definitely

[wicked nacelle]

you used to have to before dimensional depots... and lots of people still do for funsies] -- you didn't HAVE to.. but it made a lot more sense then

but there's no logistical reason to do it

[hard ivy]

Nah I never did central storage. Before or after 1.0

[tall lantern]

yeah these days it's very much a "because I want to" thing

[random garnet]

I decided to make one for the exact reason of funsies but I have no clue how to do the conveyer belts to store it all where it’s supposed to go lol

[wicked nacelle]

sure but there was a significant upside to doing it back then -- yeah you didn't literally have to

my current build is a 'megafactory' because I'm limiting myself to vehicles so everything is local because that's the only plcae it can be

[hard ivy]

For minimum traffic, you should use 1 station per item. And then the belt management should be simple, if tedious

[wicked nacelle]

one platform per item?

[random garnet]

1 station per item?

[marble gulch]

Oo

[random garnet]

That’s a lot of platforms lol

[hard ivy]

I just sink overflow from all of my factories

[hard ivy]

No, for minimum traffic, you need one station per item type

[random garnet]

I have two train stations at my central storage going opposite directions with 4 platforms

[wicked nacelle]

you mean for setting stuff to only go when empty or whatever?

[random garnet]

Tbh I probably can set my central storage up quite well sorting wise it’s just my brain is not braining right now

[wicked nacelle]

you have options. You can "sushi train" and then sink a lot of items at your storage because you have to send items regardless of need -- you can do multi-car train that's one car per item which will back up and only take what it needs to fill your storage but the train has to run constantly -- or you can do one station per item type - probably one engine one car trains - which means it will back up AND you can tell the train to only leave once it's empty which means you'll have a TON of trains but mostly sitting there doing nothing all the time

[hard ivy]

That way no trains are driving unless you actually take something out. And 32 stacks of it too

[random garnet]

I feel like some items I’m not going to send to central storage it’s mostly jsut stuff I need to building

[wicked nacelle]

if you need it for building you'd just get it from dimesional depot. There are only a few item types where that's not enough and you'd want to fill your inventory quickly. fuel gens, foundations, power storage. Maybe building a bunch of blenders (I think that gets me on too many RCU's sometimes?)

[random garnet]

True I guess I can just have the central storage there for looks lol

[wicked nacelle]

yep, at which point you should send everything 🙂

and sort it by color in rainbow order 🙂

"SATISFACTORT"??

but it looks fun 🙂

on my big save I spell out stuff with signs but I do it facing up so that when I'm flying over it I can remember what it is. but I have the whole map freckled with factories so I forget what is where

[somber monolith]

What’s the best recipes for making the most alluminum ingots from bauxite?

[wicked nacelle]

I think it might be sloppy + electrode but dang is instant scrap nice if you have some sulfur. the water recycling loop is perfect to just send right to the sulfuric acid maker

[spare stratus]

Sloppy alumina provides the most Alumina Solution per minute, but doesn't give you silica anymore so you have to get extra quartz for it. If you decide to do the pure ingot and don't have to bring in quartz then you lose out on more ingots

[rancid turret]

most people use sloppy alumina / pure ingot to cut quartz out from aluminium, then either default or electrode if you have oil or coal available

hypertube cannons

[somber monolith]

Entrance then exit into another entrance and repeat

[wicked nacelle]

each entrance makes you go faster than how fast you were going when you got to it

!wikisearch cannon

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cannon

[rancid turret]

many videos on youtube

[wicked nacelle]

first link

[median geyser]

How does the priority system in the power switch work? Im trying to hook a battery backup to my power grid for future mistakes

[sterile blade]

There is no air resistance
||Don't tell that to trains' air breaks ||

[rancid turret]

you can fling yourself over the whole map

[wicked nacelle]

yes until you touch ground or tell it to slow down -- you use jetpack to keep the speed

[rancid turret]

if you build too many you will go out of bounds

[spare stratus]

Yes you shoot yourself out of the hypertubes 😄

[wicked nacelle]

oh you don't go in the tube. You just fly in the air. You can also use a tube but it's better to just fly up

because then you can steer and go anywhere on the map

make sure to save the game first -- if you make it to big you can instantly shoot yourself off the map and instadie

[hard ivy]

Sloppy + electrode + default ingot. Alternatively instant scrap instead of the first 2, same efficiency iirc

[wicked nacelle]

you can also put multiple entrances on a long tube and it will shoot you through the tube faster

[hard ivy]

10 ish

[wicked nacelle]

start with like 6 entrances and ... okay 10 🙂

[somber monolith]

I’m to early for blenders so ig I only got one option

[wicked nacelle]

you can make a mini blueprint that's like 2 or 3 and then just print that out back to back to back to see how long you want it

[wicked nacelle]

all that said the base recipes + pure aluminum are only ever so slightly worse and super easy to work with

and even with no alts you can still make a lot of aluminum for a while with just the silica you get from the process and sinking excess scrap

[fluid sapphire]

Sloppy + pure GOAT

[hard ivy]

I don't think nearly 40% less is "ever so slightly worse"

[wicked nacelle]

you don't lose much of sloppy - not 40%. dunno about electrode too though. But that takes oil.

that seems really far. they should nearly be touching

or.. you mean one little snap point?

yes one little snap point is great

i thought you meant foundation for a moment 🙂

a grid space on the blueprint machine or snap point on a foundation is great

just try it with two frist

don't make 10 and then realize you did it wrong

[fluid sapphire]

https://youtu.be/6hEnl62Q1sA?feature=shared

[wicked nacelle]

and then the last one has a bit of tube that's angled up

[hard ivy]

The difference between default alumina, default scrap and pure ingot vs sloppy, electrode and default ingot is 37.5%

[wicked nacelle]

does that work? I don't think it will. Power it and try. I think you need a tiny bit of tube between each?

look at the video insane linked

=|.>=| >=| is how I build mine

[wicked nacelle]

I guess I meant the difference between the coal/bauxite/water-only setups. If you ship in quartz and oil then yeah it changes a lot. but those are both valuable

[hard ivy]

Way too close. My best design has the entrances 4 m apart

[fluid sapphire]

Yeah you need the tube in the middle, that's key

[wicked nacelle]

I basically make the shortest tube possible then throw an entrance on it. Repeat

the tube should be on grid point I think

yes you can instakill yourself

you can make one that sends you in a circle for an hour making you go faster each time then launch

that's why i said to save

[fluid sapphire]

If you have jetpack about 15 entrances can probably get you diagonally across the map

[wicked nacelle]

10 won't do that unless you shoot yourself straight off the edge of the map from the edge of the map

as long as you have your jetpack on you can steer yourself decently

and then just tap tap tap tap tap the thrust to make yourself keep going warp speed

[hard ivy]

Depends on the fuel in it

[fluid sapphire]

Backpedaling mid-air also slows you down, you can also use the parachute

[wicked nacelle]

yeah if you turn slowly enough you keep all your speed but if you push backwards or turn fast and push forward against your direction you slow down

[leaden turret]

reminder: parachute goes uphill both ways

[wicked nacelle]

from the cannon wiki: The higher the FPS of the player, the less speed the player will gain. -- weird

[spare stratus]

How do you guys get over the decision paralysis that is making a factory..?
Right now I want to rework my steel factory, and am always thinking that well I just make x amount I can put that towards next factory, etc etc.. And also to plan for many of each item to make?

[north summit]

The hardest decision paralysis is destroying what I’ve already made

For better optimization

I really don’t want to because what I have still works but I could optimize better with my new hard drive recipes etc

[median geyser]

Distract myself with other decisions like design work for the exterior of the factory. Through a horribly inefficient loop of decision paralysis and procrastination, everything ends up done in the most absurd route possible

[north summit]

Me for real

[dapper marten]

Let's game it out moment?

[north summit]

Has anyone noticed a glitch with the hyper tubes where after being built they just sling you out at certain intersections

[remote hawk]

any tips for new players and how to set down nice starting farms?

[median geyser]

Whatcha farmin?

[somber monolith]

Just checking I’m right can a train being filled with ore at 600pm go 8 mins before over filling?

[dapper marten]

I'd say left space for increasing machinery(for the same item) and space for splitting conveyor belts when unlocking new items

[north summit]

Foundations are efficient

Always use foundations

[dapper marten]

Also I like to always have a buffer in the middle for each item

[north summit]

They are underestimated for new players

[dapper marten]

Exactly

[remote hawk]

oh

but like i've hooked up some miners to smelters and constructors

when i unlock foundations do i redo everything and put everything on foundations?

[north summit]

I would

[remote hawk]

and i figured out that power is like a big problem, any tips?

[north summit]

Foundations work for a solid grid and keep things neat and organized

[remote hawk]

and how the power system works to prevent shut downs?

[dapper marten]

Chainsaw

[north summit]

Where are you at currently in the game

[remote hawk]

im unlocking foundations

[north summit]

Oh just work on building more biofuel power for now

It gets more efficient later on

[remote hawk]

oh okay

i've heard there's coal

but i cant automate biofuel right?

[north summit]

Coal comes up in the later phases

[north summit]

You cannot automate biofuel completely

[remote hawk]

okay

[north summit]

But you can make it more efficient by refining it

[remote hawk]

oh yea

[north summit]

Into biofuel then solid biofuel then sending it to the biofuel generators

[remote hawk]

and btw what is a pure node? all of the nodes say impure

[median geyser]

How do I use the power switch to make it so that my battery backup engages as soon as my main power trips?

[peak wasp]

3 types of nodes, impure, normal and pure

[north summit]

Impure normal and pure nodes just give you different amounts of materials

[remote hawk]

oh okay

[peak wasp]

the impure ones give the least resources

but obv still worth exploiting

[remote hawk]

yea ig

for now im gonna stick to impure

since its soo close to my base

[somber monolith]

Is there anything else I should bulk store? #screenshots message

[peak wasp]

yeah exactly, to avoid inefficiency make sure the amount of ore extracted per minute is equally distributed through the smelters/constructors aka how much they can take in per minute

[north summit]

You can add on more later plus witj better conveyors it makes importing materials easier

[remote hawk]

holy moly

[peak wasp]

yeah realized thst that's a bit too much for someone who seemingly just began, sorry ahaha

[remote hawk]

and how do i get rid of the "death crate" on top (i died in the void)

[peak wasp]

sluggy factories are an unavoidable aspect of being new

[peak wasp]

that's the compass pointing to it, go to it and pick up the stuff from the crate

ohhh

[remote hawk]

but i died in the void

[peak wasp]

died in the void, mb, no idea lol

[somber monolith]

It spawns where u were before u fell

[remote hawk]

OOOH

yea its there ty

and like how do i know how much i can put on a generator before making it shut down

like how many machines i can link up to it

[tall lantern]

machines tell you how much power they want

[remote hawk]

soo the constructor is 4MW?

[tall lantern]

yes (at default clocks)

[remote hawk]

clocks?

[peak wasp]

one bio produces like 30mw i think so add it up

[remote hawk]

oh and on the generator i got the production and capacity

[tall lantern]

you can over/underclock machines to change their speed and corresponding power draw, but if you're still learning power in general I wouldn't worry about that

[peak wasp]

you can overclock and underclock machines at a later point in the game

[remote hawk]

my production isnt capping the capacity tho

im using biomass

from leaves

[tall lantern]

if you're still using biomass burner power, make sure your burners actually have biomass of some sort

[remote hawk]

wait

what

oh wait does my production match the consume?

in the biomass generator

[peak wasp]

ur production and capacity is how much power you make, your max consumption and consumption should be under those

because if they go over, your machines are consuming more power than your making, thus; broken fuse

and nothing works until you expand the power grid

[median geyser]

Consum. -> How much power you are currently consuming

Max Cons. -> How much power you would consume if every machine on your power network were active

Production -> How much your generators are currently making

Capacity -> Honestly not sure how this one differs from Production

[remote hawk]

oh okay

thanks

oh yea

is there any way to link biomass generators

like to unite the energy

[tall lantern]

IIRC capacity is for gens that could run but aren't because there's enough power already. Which these days is only biomass

[median geyser]

Yes, you put a power pole nearby and connect both biomass to the power pole

[tall lantern]

sure, just hook 'em all into the same network of power poles, same as you do with production buildings

[median geyser]

You can then put down more power poles and connect more generators, and make a big network of them that connects to all your machines

Its not worth doing a huge biomass generator setup, wait until you can automated power, which will come soon as you progress, but you definitely can and should link these things together

[remote hawk]

because i wanted to link 2

to power up like 2 mines 2 smelters and 2 constructors

[median geyser]

You definitely can, yeah

[remote hawk]

oh okay

tysm

will try

[median geyser]

Thats what power poles are for. For now, your Mk1 power poles can handle 4 connections each

[remote hawk]

i used to place different ones like 1 for the smelters and constructors and 1 for the miner, i didnt know i could link them

[median geyser]

Youll get better ones later, but they just allow more connections to each pole, you could in theory do the whole game on mk1s

[remote hawk]

okayy tysm

i just unlocked foundations

wich foundations should i use?

1m, 2m or 4m

[hard ivy]

Whichever one you like best

[remote hawk]

oh alr

btw why when i place 2m it goes down in the ground

[hard ivy]

That's normal

You can nudge it up if you want it fully above ground

[remote hawk]

oh

soo then i should use 4m

[remote hawk]

how do i do that

[hard ivy]

Press H, then page up

Page down for moving down and arrow keys for forward/back/left/right

[remote hawk]

oh okay

[somber monolith]

Do trains need an amount of tolerance on how much they receive in case they get blocked at a block section?

[round matrix]

it's good to leave some space for such things, yeah. you'll have to determine yourself how much this should be depending on how busy the track is that this particular train uses

[hard ivy]

Depends on the settings and exact circumstances, really. In some very specific ones, delaying a train can actually increase throughput. Or you can make it so it doesn't matter unless it gets really delayed

[round matrix]

though often this already exists as you don't get exactly enough slots in the train to just barely fill up on one trip and have nothing left. there's always room left on the trains, or your train is too short

[bitter pine]

oho how to get rid from the fuse blown

the coal power generator is worse thing

how to find the geothermal energy node

[reef basin]

Build more power 🙂

[limpid cairn]

or you consume less power by unplugging unnecessary stuff

[bitter pine]

i'm tired to do this

i have 15 coal generator

10 biomass burner

😭

even i did not complete phase 2