satisfactory

[wicked nacelle]

and then of course sloop your slugs

[fluid sapphire]

havent even finished phase 4, already have golden nut

[wicked nacelle]

and sloop your slugs

[hasty dragon]

definintely sloop the slugs

[wicked nacelle]

you can process slugs in a constructor, too -- which can be slooped

[gentle lion]

🤯

[wicked nacelle]

so you get 2/4/10 shards per slug

[hasty dragon]

10 power shards for one purple slug is 🧑‍🍳 👌

[gentle lion]

I need to read up on that

Found my first purple slug today

[hasty dragon]

Makes placing '250+' generators much less tedius

[gentle lion]

So I need to sloop machines I need more parts of

[pliant prawn]

It's really fun to build and support helpful, a Bio Process plant. You use smart splits and an array of machines all manifold off of a storage bin. Drop all your junk from exploring in the bin, let it sort to all the sloop machines, manifold it all back into a stack of containers, smart split the DNA off to the sink

[hasty dragon]

my rocket fuel factory has 144 triple oc'd fuel generators running on 1500 rocket fuel/min

[fluid sapphire]

eh, the amount of work that is placing lots of generators is majorly overblown, i will die on this hill, as always

[hasty dragon]

if I didn't oc them that'd be like 360 generators

idk i like my builds looking nice

[gentle lion]

Teach me old wise on , that sounds really cool

[hasty dragon]

🤣

[wicked nacelle]

you can blueprint 4 at a time... so you just have to stock up on rubbers

err, I mean rubber

[fluid sapphire]

copper sheets too, for the auto connected piping

it takes 30-60 minutes to place 600 generators

which is truly nothing in the context of this game

[gentle lion]

I only have like 3 of the sloop things I need to explore more

[hasty dragon]

I have a slooped bio fuel plant and I've never been without liquid biofuel for my jetpack haha

such a good investment of time

[wicked nacelle]

uhmmm... I hate to break it to you 😕

honestly... actually I don't hate to break it to you it kinda makes me laugh

[hasty dragon]

Out with it bruh

[wicked nacelle]

u dun wasted yer time

[hasty dragon]

lmao ok, elaborate

[tall lantern]

nah that's a good use if you did a simple setup

you can just slap in a crate of solid biomass and have jetpack fuel for ~forever

[hasty dragon]

yeah idk what he's on about. It was the best thing for my mobility. It gave me nigh infinite jetpack into my dimensional depot. I never ran out. Took 10 minutes to build lmao

[tall lantern]

I did the same in my last save

[hasty dragon]

Anytime I come back from a project where I gotta deforest a bit, I drop off the goodies and just fly away

[wicked nacelle]

I forget that some people do a lot of exploring before doing a lot of hub unlocking

[pliant prawn]

🤣 I'm not that wise, just played way too much. it's actually pretty simple. Bin, duh, belt to a big manifold. That should take about ten constructors, program one each for wood, leaves, mycelium, each different critter remains, each different slug. Then add a sloop to those so step one gets doubled(get hunting for sloops! There's plenty!) then for all the protein and biomass make one consructor each to make solid biofuel and DNA, merge all the output into a sushi, smart split of those two, you can then sloop both of those! Quadruple DNA AND Bio! Yay! Sink the DNA and that part is done. Then for bonus fun you can run the solid biomass to a single refinery with a water supply, sloop that, and you multiply your liquid biofuel by EIGHT! great for your jetpack. Have fun!

[ivory wadi]

Chat what’s the difference between satisfactory vs techtonica?

[hasty dragon]

is that music by daft punk?

[pliant prawn]

Grid versus freeform, afaik

[reef basin]

like... everything?

[ivory wadi]

Could yall give me a short explanation dumbed down lol

[ivory wadi]

Ah okay

[pliant prawn]

Satisfactory is chill, infinite resources. Techtonica has more narrow goals with limited resources, requires more resource management

[tall lantern]

satisfactory is a game I have played, techtonica is one I have not

the only important difference

[analog pike]

the perfect game

[ivory wadi]

Thanks for the explanation everyone. I appreciate the response

[dapper marten]

Ok so, I've done the second floor of refineries and pipes gets filled up even without pumps, is it because once they get filled up the start with the next right?
However I guess I'll need pumps for when production will be online

How is it possible that when I place a pump the flow of liquids goes down instead of up?(the preview I mean)

[pliant prawn]

Head lift, and SLOSH! The game calculates how high fluids should go from the source. Base it gives you 10M free. So if your fluids are getting up to the second level you might have enough head lift. When placing pumps, you can flip them so they face the direction you want with the scroll wheel

[dapper marten]

Yeah but

I'm pointing toward the lifting of the pipe, the preview flow goes down towards the pipe

[pliant prawn]

Point at the pipe with your pump, toggle the direction doesn't work?

Are you pointing at the end of a pipe? Or in the middle of one?

[dapper marten]

The flow goes even back behind the pump

[pliant prawn]

Hmmmm, odd. Can you post a #screenshots ?

[gentle lion]

Uhhh ok 😂 can I dm you if I have any questions

[pliant prawn]

Yeah man, I'll send you some screen shots that way later too lol

[dapper marten]

Done

[gentle lion]

Thanks.

[reef basin]

why not #1038092680493801533

[pliant prawn]

Weeeeeiiiirrrd. Try saving and reload real quick. Then let us know what happens. If it's still doing that, do what greeny says and move it to #1038092680493801533 .

[pliant prawn]

If it's a quick fix I always try to do it with one screen shot before I recommend that route. Lazy me lol

[dapper marten]

Btw, I have the still configuration a bit more far on the right, doesn't show anything unusual, I'll try saving and getting back in

[umbral flame]

when importing a blueprint do i have to have my game closed? or can i just move the files then check my blueprint page kinda like minecraft texture pack

[meager kiln]

Just started a new save (came back after a few months and got stressed with what I had) . I'm clipping everywhere and I love it . This is so much more fun

[gentle lion]

I need to unlock the smart splitter too I think I have enough stuff now

[mortal ginkgo]

why dont we have stupid splitters?

[dapper marten]

Same issue

[pliant prawn]

... We... Do? The pioneer. obviously.

[dapper marten]

@pliant prawn fixed it in the most stupid way

[pliant prawn]

Blarg dang. Time for a thread in #1038092680493801533 . I'm thinking maybe you got a weird pipe that's not registered right

[dapper marten]

I placed a pump that the end of the pipe going upward(at the junction) placed the pump from below, flow is normal, tries without, flow is normal
Bruh

[quick hound]

places 20 portable miners on your node >:)

How does that feel?!

[hybrid nymph]

I am going to be playing again tonight

[umbral flame]

anyone know?

[hybrid nymph]

Just going to get into oil 🛢️

[quick hound]

@mortal ginkgo HOW DO THE 20 MINERS FEEL?

HUH?!

[north summit]

are hypertubes actually good for their intended use

I never actually build a hypertube highway before

[umbral sleet]

So long as they can’t form a Union, I don’t care

[mortal ginkgo]

yes. now with conjuctions etc. too so they are even better.

i dont like going third person so I still use ziplines

i even got bps to traverse in ziplines so

[primal obsidian]

jsut realized that i coulda used the 1m wall to cover up the 1m foundations instead of coveing them with beams

[quick hound]

How you doing limestone?

[feral geyser]

You just have to have the save closed. Game can be on main menu

[mortal ginkgo]

nightshift at job, lurking around. how about you

[quick hound]

Drinking this strange liquid called clorox, it reminds me of sprite

[wicked nacelle]

I hear that's good for ducks. And tide pods.

[cinder jay]

hello

[glass pagoda]

Sup

How u doing

[cinder jay]

pretty good how many iron plates, iron rods, modular flrames. reinforces iron plates should i be making a minute?

[cinder jay]

pretty good gonna try and get something done for once in the game

[glad quest]

5 reinforced pm

about 40 to 50 iron plates pm

same for iron rodes

try for 2 modular frames imo

[glass pagoda]

Yeah its hard to start a project

[dense violet]

Yes

[cinder jay]

im js extrememly burnt out i did abt 3 or 4 12-13 hr days and now im js mently burnt out

[glad quest]

blast uptempo

works for me

[hollow onyx]

is there a way to make the music more frequent, i feel like it plays less since 1.0 released

[dense violet]

Probably the boom box?

[leaden turret]

boombox music or ambient music?

[hollow onyx]

yeah ambient music

[leaden turret]

buy soundtrack, play it as often as you like

[hollow onyx]

i suppose yeah but like is there any mod or setting that changes it

[leaden turret]

🤷‍♂️

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[north summit]

Power Tower Platform Supremacy

Power Towers by themselves are lame

[umbral sleet]

Man I need goddamn smart splitters but I’m too damn lazy to go and get the catering 😭

[dapper marten]

Considering that I might need a total of 150ish blenders, do I use them or just cut to compacted coal for turbo fuel?

[south sinew]

ideally skip turbofuel and simply stick to diluted until you can do rocket

[dense violet]

I mean you do you. Personally that sounds like an unpleasant amount of TF either way

[severe cliff]

how long does the overclocking last?

[dense violet]

Forever ?

[south sinew]

indefinitely

power shards aren't consumed

[dense violet]

There’s no decay in this game

It would be a terrible design choice

[severe cliff]

ok thank you

[glad quest]

lowk use ionizing fuel like a man

[south sinew]

ionized fuel is awful for power generation

[dapper marten]

Which is the one I was aiming to do

No my bad, rocket powered fuel*

[south sinew]

there's a rocket fuel alt which is considerably easier than going through turbofuel

[glad quest]

yeah fuel nitrogen coal and sulphur

to make 150 per blender

[sudden flint]

#screenshots message AGJKAGHSFGJKLHSFGJKSFGHSFGJKHSFG IM SO PISSED IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET THEM AND THEN THIS!

[glad quest]

rip

both r rlly gud

solid steel ingots is better imo

[south sinew]

solid steel ingot isn't just great because you get more steel per coal and iron but it also unlocks alts for the iron ingot

[sudden flint]

I chose solid steel

I just need to go drive hunting now 😭

[glad quest]

rela

[ornate saffron]

The RNG gods are mean mistresses

[sudden flint]

I got the steel rotor one a couple drives later, so oh well

it's a good thing I had a big library backup beforehand

[quick hound]

Incorrect. You’re forgetting the decay in your sanity.

[sudden flint]

steel stator is the default I thought

#screenshots message

gay baby jail

[pine patrol]

Is it possible to get all alternate recipes if you collect all hard drives?

[sudden flint]

nooooo

[pine patrol]

😔

[sudden flint]

unfortunately not

😔

Ignore me I'm totally pulling your leg I'm pretty sure you can

[dense violet]

It is possible, they are lying to you

[pine patrol]

i just checked and technically your wrong

There is 108 hard drives (i think)

and 113 alternates

But there is more than 5 recipes i will never use

[sullen gull]

There are 118 drives

More than enough for all alts and research in the MAM

[sterile blade]

Hard Drives aren't even a limited resource anymore... 😅

[pine patrol]

fr?

[sullen gull]

True.... can buy them in the Awesome shop

[fierce temple]

Guys major question, do satisfactory on ps5 support keyboard and mouse

[dense violet]

sounds like you're using old info sources

no idea, try it out

[pine patrol]

i aint putting 3k ai servers in the sink just to get some dudes hard drive

[sullen gull]

According to FAQ, no. Not yet.

[fierce temple]

🫩

Also wrong channel mb, there is console dedicated one

[ocean frost]

have you seen memory prices

[dense violet]

eh, it's not like they're having a rant or epic conversation about console specific questions

[sullen gull]

👆

[pine patrol]

Just checked the official wiki (i thought the google ai was unretarded since thats what i checked first) and there is mkre hard drives than alternates

[sullen gull]

What wiki? Fandom, or GG?

[pine patrol]

this https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#3.75;184720;175356|gameLayer|caves;uraniumImpure;uraniumNormal;oilWellImpure;oilWellNormal;oilWellPure;somersloops

[sullen gull]

That's not the official Wiki 🙂

[pine patrol]

wronf link

wrong tab i copyed i have the calc open

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Hard_Drive#AWESOME_Sink meant this mb

[ocean frost]

it does have the hard drive count

[pine patrol]

tru

but i also needed the alternate count

[sullen gull]

True, just not the official wiki link 😛

Also, just wanted to be sure they weren't on Fandom

[pine patrol]

is fandom wrong?

damn

[ocean frost]

we dont talk about he who must not be names

[sterile blade]

108 are the alt recipes unlocked through Hard Drives; others are unlocked via the research tree without Drives.
Detailed closer to the top of the page is the total of 118 crash sites/hard drives

[ocean frost]

https://tenor.com/view/encanto-pepa-madrigal-we-dont-talk-about-bruno-no-no-no-disney-gif-24935713

[sullen gull]

Outdated and not managed anymore. the GG wiki is considered the "Official"

[pine patrol]

alr

[sullen gull]

Well, not with UBlock Origin 😏

[sudden flint]

what does one use the extra hard drives for????

[ornate saffron]

on the fandom landing page it says it hasnt been updated in over 1000 days lol

[dense violet]

nothing? just spares

means you don't have to grab every single one

[ornate saffron]

to get the Achievement for finding them all

[sterile blade]

The only updating it deserves is deletion

[dense violet]

I think that achievement is still broken though? seem to recall people recently complaining about it

[ornate saffron]

lol maybe... I got the achievment many moons ago

[sullen gull]

There is only an achievement for grabbing 100 of them

[dense violet]

oh? maybe they fixed it, nice

[sullen gull]

And afaik, it's working fine. Was on withsomeone a couple weeks ago and it worked 🤷‍♂️

[ornate saffron]

Ya, I was just reading that trying to figure out when i got it

[pine patrol]

sulfer tree

[ornate saffron]

I got all the Achievements in February of this year

[gentle lion]

Why are these crashed drop pods so hard to find. Aren't there quite a few

[ornate saffron]

there is always more to learn

[ornate saffron]

over 100

[ornate saffron]

you can use SCIM to find them all if you dont mind a map telling you every location

[gentle lion]

I saw on the interactive map there were some east of me...I guess on top of the dam mountains ?

[ornate saffron]

never played that. 20 or so years ago i lived near a beefalo farm

[gentle lion]

I was using it but I.guess I'm stupid , why can't we scan for those lol

[pine patrol]

if your having trouble get the upgrade that allows you to sdan for them its in the quartz tree i think

[hard stump]

I have a dumb question. I’m on Xbox and i use to be able to highlight an item view the insect of what that item was because I can’t tell a lot with the blank picture but it stopped what setting is this anyone have a setting I should turn on I’m confused

[ornate saffron]

the hand scanner does scan for them.

[gentle lion]

Oh...

I'll check the wiki

[pine patrol]

Radio towers from the same tree will help you varify you got all of them in a given region

[ornate saffron]

I played lots of terraria back when it was new. We got a four pack of the game for $20

beefalo Are delish

[gentle lion]

Ahh ok I setup a quartz node and set half to silica half to crystals

Containers are probably full now lol

[ornate saffron]

much galss and Signs

[gentle lion]

Yes I can finally make signs I made a few today 😂

[fickle oriole]

is there any way to set up a "yield" sign for trucks? I have two routes A nd B that both merge onto the same highway at location C, going the same way. But if an A truck and a B truck both hit C at the same or near times, everybody wedges forever. what to do?

[primal obsidian]

oh boy time to make a train line even though i dont really know how this works

[ornate saffron]

Before I Started tracking everything in spreadsheets, signs were my go to

[gentle lion]

Spreadsheets ..oh one of those people 😂

[fickle oriole]

I guess basically what I want is the equivalent of block/path, but for trucks

[primal obsidian]

i mean you could just add another lane or slow down one of the trucks by driving slower

[ornate saffron]

I need to get better at using them for work. So i intergrate them into my daily life ^_^

[gentle lion]

😂

Can you pause the trucks you set up? I assume catch the.And set autopilot off?

Even a timer to pause them for a bit. Thye cleared out my stash and the miner is slooooow lol

[ornate saffron]

I cant help much. I treated them like Ghost buster Proton packs.... I never crossed the paths

[fickle oriole]

well, once I walk to the intersection, it's easy to fix - just jump into the driver's seat of 1, then the others will nudge it out of the way, and I resume. But no matter what I set the speed of A and B to, or add a pause, soon or later at some point they will both arrive at C at the same time. And then it appears each waits for the other 🙁

[dense violet]

nope, just don't have them path head on and you'll be fine

[ornate saffron]

I hafve lots of weed if you want some

[pine patrol]

and radiotowers and a good amount of advanded parts require quartz why are you downplaying it

[ornate saffron]

im not downplaying at all. Hence the Praise the sun

[pine patrol]

i missread it as “pretty much” mb

[fickle oriole]

that's the problem - they don't path head on. They are both heading the same direction, just like an on-ramp to a highway. But if the merging car and the mergee car both arrive at the same time, they will deadlock

[ornate saffron]

all good, It can be hard to interpret short form responses ^^ i try not to drop spoilers as we have lots of newer players. ^^

[pine patrol]

fair

[ornate saffron]

Everyone has there vices..... as long as its not a addiction ^_^

[dense violet]

nah thye'll be fine. Trucks are virtual and they'll get back on track

[fickle oriole]

beg to differ :). they were wedged. I'll see if it happens again. ty for thee response though!

[ornate saffron]

The cat pic helps

[pine patrol]

blocking a person who mentioned buying alcohol is silly

?

Who tf is marv

[ornate saffron]

One of two antagonists in Home Alone

I also have a small Numpad. It helps.

I have a k70 MK2 in the closet

I bought this KB because my cat when sick likes to sleep on my desk... and throw up on my keyboard. This is fully modular and you can disconnect the chord. I put it on my piano when i sleep or i am not home

Doesnt the k100 have macro keys?>

i have 72 macro keys on this small thing

how fairs the SF playthrough?

just get a Dedacted Macro pad. It doesnt have to be a stream deck. there is a lot of good options out there

@unborn gyro If we continue this #off-topic-tech convo we should move it

[pastel rain]

i'm having a problem with a constructor, it has the belts connected properly, iron ingots as recepie selected, with iron ore going into it. it won't let me manually add iron ore, and it has power (it's light is yellow), but it's not accepting the input, any idea why?

[old bramble]

Iron ore goes in the smelter

[pastel rain]

oh shit, i'm dumb

[cosmic condor]

sooooo... I'm currently mining coal at 120/min. I split this into 2 60/min belts and pipe it to 8 coal generators which take 15/min. 15*4 is 120. Why are they stuttering?

[old bramble]

Could be the water levels

[primal obsidian]

multiplayer server im on is a ghost town very sad the only other guy is in opposite timezone

[swift void]

Is there anyway to change the color of the milestone text I can’t see the orange on white

[cosmic condor]

pipes are full

[old bramble]

Is the coal generators filled with water though.

[cosmic condor]

yes, they only start running poorly when I split the coal into 15/min lanes.

[wicked nacelle]

go to one that's stuttering and inspect it. it will either be out of coal or out of water. Look for the one where the smoke stack smoke disappears and reappears

[primal obsidian]

should i make train lines in the sky

[wicked nacelle]

if you're lame.

[primal obsidian]

or follow the terrain

[dense violet]

sky infrastructure sucks ass - but you do you

[wicked nacelle]

are you using the right speed belts?

[cosmic condor]

They are low on coal, but I've done the math so many times I shouldn't be having this issue. Miner is saying 120/min but it isn't running 100% of the time for some reason even though I'm splitting OHHHHH

[wicked nacelle]

wrong speed belts

[cosmic condor]

Yea I forgor I need like a tiny speed lane before I split the coal...

[wicked nacelle]

yes, if you go click on your miner you'll see it's not running at 100%

[dense violet]

always follow the problem backwards 🙂

[old bramble]

That’s it.

[cosmic condor]

too expensive right now to do the whole belt in mk2 so I'm splitting it right by the miner.

[wicked nacelle]

sure that works

[primal obsidian]

always works

[cosmic condor]

Thanks yall!!!! this was driving me crazy

[old bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-gif-19663229

[cosmic condor]

WELL I guess I won't be needing to visit the annoying triple coal mine for a while longer 😎

ahhh I love seeing a full belt 🙂

My energy production is a straight line 🙂

[wicked nacelle]

mk2 and mk4 belts definitely feel "expensive" - the other ones feel much easier

[old bramble]

I mean hey for me it was a pipe issue but I figured it out pretty quickly. Got myself a beefy coal generator set up. But my power just cut out. So I may switch to exclusively fuel.

[cosmic condor]

this is just temporary until I have more screws than I know what to do with

I had the MESSIEST piping until I just redid everything and now it's super clean and efficient

wish I had screenshots

[old bramble]

Mario would be proud

[wicked nacelle]

mario was such a bad plumber. Did he ever actually fix a single pipe in any of the games? He just went around stealing money -- oh so I guess he WAS a good plumber 😛

[primal obsidian]

time to run a train line

[old bramble]

Could be worse 😆

[primal obsidian]

how much throughput for train at 2400m rail making 1.5 ish stacks/min

[old bramble]

Should I run trains til filled and wait one second?

That way it actually fills instead of waiting 15 seconds. Because I’m foreseeing that issue

[cosmic condor]

So.. now that I have the capacity to run 8 coal generators at max power, it would technically be a waste of coal to produce more power than I need right? It seems bio mass only runs when needed whereas coal runs 100% all the time.

[old bramble]

Resource nodes are infinite I’m pretty sure

Your only limit is how much you min per minute.

[primal obsidian]

no point in not making excess power

[cosmic condor]

yea infinite coal and all that

[old bramble]

I made a sixteen coal power generator.

[ornate saffron]

I{ think I made 24 for my first Coal build

in the waterfall lake

[primal obsidian]

should i use train or drone to transport 64 control rods/min 2.4km

[cosmic condor]

Same but I doubt I did it right lol

[dense violet]

whatever is more convenient for you

[primal obsidian]

ok drone it is

[dense violet]

the vast majority of these types of question really boil down to how you like to do things 🙂

there's more complicated ways, there's simpler ways, but mainly it's 'ways you like to do things'

[ornate saffron]

Learn by doing, YOull; get there ^-6

[old bramble]

Because to me OR is a GIANT difference to AND.

[cosmic condor]

my second playthrough has been way more smooth cuz I know how to future proof and run at 100% efficiency now. Hardest thing was learning to spread out, but not too much

[dense violet]

you really can't effectively 'future' proof unless you're working off a final pre planned end goal. Just more energy for no real benefit. Just unlock everything and make final factories later

[ornate saffron]

Ya, my second run was similar. Ive been using the Blueprinter a lot this run (my 6th) its helping think in 4x4, 5x5, and 6x6 foot prints, allowing me to allocate space easier. Ive also been building up.

[old bramble]

I’m thinking of just having my train load and wait five seconds. Is much better. Then Loading or waiting x amount of seconds.

Can I dedicate certain freight cars to certain items exclusively?

[white dawn]

Yes, though IMO if you're sticking to one item per car, it's best to just let the freight platform also just have a single item type

[old bramble]

That I have done. Each freight platform holds only one part.

[white dawn]

If you're doing sushi, do sushi. If not, keep the freight platform + the car the same.

[old bramble]

What’s “sushi”?

[white dawn]

Ah, okay, I thought you meant that you were gonna put more than one item into a platform and then you wanted different trains to pick up different items from it (which is, I think, possible, but I personally wouldn't recommend it)

[white dawn]

Sushi is just having more than one type of resource on the same belt (or cargo area, for vehicles/trains/drones)

Like some sushi restaurants which have conveyor belts where you take whatever you want off the belt

[ornate saffron]

sushi goes into my mouth

[old bramble]

That explains it. I don’t eat sushi 😆

Learn something new everyday.

I have ten manufacturers making crystal thingy majigs.

Oscillators

Now I just need to get all the parts over.

[quick hound]

Crystal abortion makers

[old bramble]

Is there recipes were I can use petroleum coke in place of coal?

[sudden flint]

I mean after that

[old bramble]

Like say for black* powder?

[quick hound]

Quack, quack quack quack, quack, quack.

[cosmic condor]

yay 🙂 first foundry is now setup as efficient as I can get it right now

[quick hound]

One quack in celebration! Quack!

[primal obsidian]

they should add zoop mode to lights

[quick hound]

BLINDINGG

[primal obsidian]

wow these things are really bright

[quick hound]

Send a screenshot

[primal obsidian]

why

[quick hound]

I’m curious, send a screenshot.

[primal obsidian]

i just deleted them

[quick hound]

I’m going to peck you.

[primal obsidian]

but just imagine an apartment complex with steel walls

i sent a screenshot

its from the factory

[quick hound]

What the fuck is that?!

[primal obsidian]

conveyer

[quick hound]

conveyer 👍

[primal obsidian]

its perfectly normal idk why you reacted so strongly

[quick hound]

I was talking about the thing with the black yellow thing is

[ornate saffron]

You offended my virgin eyes

[quick hound]

Virgin gang

[primal obsidian]

the zipline

[novel heath]

has anyone here used the disolved silica recipe? seems like such an odd recipe lol

[ornate saffron]

I have but i regret doing so, I think there is better uses of the Nitric acid

and nitrogen in general

[primal obsidian]

nitrogen at the other side of map from nuclear waste managment what do i do

move waste?

[ornate saffron]

You could move the nitrogen. That way you are not spreading radiation around the map

[primal obsidian]

how

[ornate saffron]

Packager then train

[primal obsidian]

ohh ok makes sense

[north summit]

I think im going to build a hypertube hub where i can travel from the hub to anywhere in my factory as needed

id be nice to organize my transportation

[old bramble]

Okay well after doing some math with 300 oil which is my max with my MK1 pipes. I can make 200 fuel. Which means I can make…. 10 fuel generators?

[quick hound]

You have meth? Give me some!

[cosmic condor]

ok NOW my coal plant is working efficiently. Water crisis averted.

[primal obsidian]

should i just do a loop where the train waits for all the nitrogen to unpackage and send it back or just bring aluminum to do the canisters

[cosmic condor]

Couldn't fully discover the water problem until I had my coal issue fixed.

[frail sleet]

It's a closed loop, so you don't have to continually make cannisters. Just supply them at the start.

You don't have to make the train wait either, by having more stuff in the loop (which is a one-time, not ongoing cost) it can pick up stuff that is already unpackaged and go, right away.

[north summit]

oh my god

[primal obsidian]

just add a buffer on either side with canisters? and then send them

[north summit]

elevada is hilarious

[frail sleet]

Yeah

[primal obsidian]

ok

[ornate saffron]

oonce you get going you will not need to make any more canisters, youll just rotate the ones you got back and forth. but youll have to get to that point first

[worthy socket]

hey. Can I ask questions here? Or is there a specific channel for that?

[ornate saffron]

@cosmic condor Grats!

[primal obsidian]

#1038092680493801533 because its easier

[worthy socket]

thank you

[cosmic condor]

Anyone else duck a lot of their issues by just stacking towers of storage containers to deal with excess stuff later (never)?

[ornate saffron]

i just put it in the awesome sink

get points for awesome shop

makes us Awesome

[dense violet]

if it's a simple quick question here is also generally fine. If it's help understanding stuff that's complex #1038092680493801533 is good yeah

[worthy socket]

uh. I think it could be simple?

Im having massive troubles with trucks. Is that like a common known issue or am I just dumb

[open swallow]

deffo #1038092680493801533

that's a complex topic all on its own

[worthy socket]

ok. Thank you. Sorry

[old bramble]

Honestly I never used trucks yet.

[cosmic condor]

But what if I need 4 containers of cables one day?

[old bramble]

😂

[open swallow]

you make more

[zealous valley]

Is there any benefit to making more than one dimensional depot?

[open swallow]

yeah, one per item keeps it from clogging

[ocean frost]

speed

[open swallow]

if you try to sushi belt it and that item is full, it'll clog, afaik

[ocean frost]

foundations use lots of concrete

[ocean frost]

Then you know its time to touch grass

[zealous valley]

Also once you buy everything in the ficsit shop there is no point to print your coupons right?

[white dawn]

The "trophies" in there never run out, can keep acquiring more of those if you want

[ocean frost]

Show off your Wealth

[open swallow]

trophies

[white dawn]

Get a whole room of Golden Nuts, etc

But yeah, if you don't care about those, then there's not much point. :)

[ornate saffron]

thats the beauty, you can play any way you like. I just want you to ahve fun ^_^

[white dawn]

There's equipment/resources to buy, of course. Generally folks advise not buying stuff from there just to save your coupons for stuff like the Golden Nut, but if you're otherwise sold out then go for it

[ornate saffron]

I only buy Ionized fuel for my Jetpack, I dont wana build that stff lol

[open swallow]

coupons are infinite too, and sometimes it's a faster way to jump start a production line

[white dawn]

Indeed they're infinite, but they do get more "expensive" the more you redeem

If you are one to want all the trophies from the shop, you're best off not buying equipment/resources; the extra time can really start stacking up

(coupons do stop getting more expensive after awhile, but I think you've gotta be a few Golden Nuts in before that happens)

[open swallow]

are DNA coupons linear? that is another reliable source

[white dawn]

Yeah, I forget how quickly they get more expensive, but it's linear

[dense violet]

they just have their own expense track

[open swallow]

but it's linear instead of polynomial, which is the important part

[strong dirge]

I know the devs have their own plans but if they take any random ideas, I have one for the end game: Dyson Spheres. Let us trap the sun and turn it into power.

[white dawn]

You're welcome to suggest anything you like at the Questions site, though given that we can't leave our own little island/continent, let alone go into space, I'm not quite sure how that would work. :P

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[dense violet]

just do it to a new map that's a small island continent on a star's surface. Duh.

[white dawn]

Given that their response to requests for more ocean/sea content is generally "just go play Subnautica," I'm guessing their response to dyson sphere requests would be "just go play Dyson Sphere Project." :)

[old bramble]

Speaking of solar why no ‘solar’ panels? Would go excellent with batteries.

[dense violet]

automated ocean factory stuff would be pretty cool though
Subnautica's building mechanics are really lacking

[dense violet]

free energy would break the already super cheap energy economy

[white dawn]

They've said "no" to that many a time, fwiw: https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/power-management/green-energy/

[old bramble]

Fair enough.

[ornate saffron]

I Didnt really see That game as a Builder. I saw it as a thriller mystery game.

[ornate saffron]

But a nautical builder would be great

[white dawn]

(actually surprised that one isn't under "unplanned features")

[dense violet]

it's not. I gets me to hte point going 'yeah lets build a cool base with everything in a deep part of hte ocean!' but always lose interest due to not really having anything meaninful for it

somewhen it is

[ornate saffron]

evening here

not that there is a diffrence. I go to work the sun has yet to rise, When i leave work it is setting

im in bed...... just noit sleeping

[strong dirge]

We have a space elevator, we could send the parts up

[strong dirge]

I work graveyards so the sun is just an insult with it's prancing about when I am trying to sleep

[ornate saffron]

its just winter in canada lol

[strong dirge]

I mean when I worked days thanks to where I live in Montana during the winter I would go to work at 7 when it was dark and it would be dark when I went home after 3

[white dawn]

Oh, I sleep, but I always plug myself into my Mental Loom first so that my subconscious can continue chatting on Discord while I'm asleep

[dense violet]

huh, a 1.8gb update

[cosmic condor]

Anyone else find the blueprint designer to be... pathetically tiny?

[strong dirge]

Another update?

[ornate saffron]

there is three verisions each is bigger

[strong dirge]

I do wish it could at least be large enough to blueprint coal plants inside

[white dawn]

Some folks do find it so, but even the 4x4 is a lot more powerful than a lot of folks give it credit for

[cosmic condor]

basically USELESS for everything I wanted to use blueprints for though

[ornate saffron]

you can get like 16 Founderies in that thing

[strong dirge]

Oh it's great for most things but I got it when I was working on coal power only to find I couldn't prototype my plant to fast build it

[cosmic condor]

You should be able to just select existing builds (the same way you can mass delete) and just save it to your build gun right there on the spot.

[white dawn]

The size is, in general, intentional to enforce the kind of usage that CSS intends for it. ie: helping you do smaller repretetive tasks like hooking up machine manifolds, rather than laying down huge chunks of factories at once

[ocean frost]

we are lucky to have BP in the game

[white dawn]

For some value of "should." I admit that I wouldn't've complained if CSS had done something like that, but I'm not at all convinced that the current implementation wasn't the right solution for the game

[strong dirge]

The fact water has physics when you put it inside something?

[dense violet]

I guess? no idea what they were patching

[ocean frost]

Mods make them bigger

[ornate saffron]

lots fo steam deck support

[ocean frost]

so we can be happy

[white dawn]

Mods allow users to do things the game designers didn't intend! Film at eleven!

[dense violet]

I mean I wish they had never introduced BPs solely because people bitched more about them after the ywere introduced. Sucks to suck

[white dawn]

(to be clear: I have zero problems with mods doing whatever. :)

[ocean frost]

The community made the game designers do things they didn't intend.

[strong dirge]

The 1.2 update teaser or something else?

[white dawn]

My only complaint re: blueprints prior to 1.0 was that I wished I had slightly more room to hook up the kind of manifolding I like to the back of Manufacturers. I'd've been happy with a single 5x4 upgrade, let alone both a 5x5 and 6x6

[strong dirge]

No I haven't. I only really got into the game after I could get it on PS5.

[strong dirge]

Giving it upgrades so it can grow as your builds do would be neat

[white dawn]

I suppose I do think that the mk3 blueprinter is awfully expensive; it'd be nice if that was available earlier on in phase 5 (or even late in tier 8?)

[strong dirge]

Yup. My 13 year old PC can't handle the game

[white dawn]

For myself I tend to lose interest once the game goes into pure sandbox mode, so I don't get a lot of usage out of the mk3

[strong dirge]

I ran out of ram to download

[open swallow]

joke? I thought it was real

[strong dirge]

I mean I am old enough to have a computer older than the average Fortnite player...

[open swallow]

I have 2TB of RAM I downloaded

[strong dirge]

Not until we can 3d print it

[open swallow]

You wouldn't download a RAM

[white dawn]

must... resist...

[strong dirge]

But yeah, my first coal plant was a bust because of water issues but I tore it down, did a full rebuild and now it chugs along with 12 generators feeding on 3 coal nodes

Just like crypto did to graphics cards

[dense violet]

that doesn't sound like enough generators for 3 nodes

[white dawn]

Yeah, I'm long overdue for a PC upgrade myself and current prices make my cheapskate brain recoil in horror. Should probably rip that bandaid sooner rather than later, but eh.

[open swallow]

i just bought a compact laptop that beats out my desktop rig in every spec

[ornate saffron]

maybe we will get lucky the AI bubble will pop and the Economy will suffer

[open swallow]

once upon a time, that rig was peak

[white dawn]

I would party-emoji but it'll be ugly. :D

[open swallow]

a Vega 64 just doesn't hold its weight anymore

[dense violet]

yeah, they'll just get bailed out with your money

[strong dirge]

180 coal a minute is 12 generators. I just got Mk2 miners unlocked earlier today but Mk3 belts can't feed them fast enough to expand further unless I break each node into their own group but that requires a redesign.

[dense violet]

ah you're not over clocking anything

[dense violet]

also thats not hard, mk2 miner on one normal node can do 240 I think?

[strong dirge]

Just my inferior iron nodes feeding my steel, and my screw constructors

[dense violet]

yeah just OC your coal nodes, make lots of power 48-64 coal gens is pretty reasonable

[strong dirge]

I am trying to not use too many slugs until I can be boost output so I get bonus ones

[dense violet]

there's more than 2000 possiblew shards on the map w/o slooping, you'll be ok

[strong dirge]

I am belt speed capped though

[dense violet]

you said you had mk3? that 270
just OC to 240 coal from one node, feed 16 coal gens

[strong dirge]

Eh, I don't think I can limit myself to 2k machines

[dense violet]

shards are also infinite

[strong dirge]

Ah. I am not in front of my console so my brain was telling me that Mk3s where 120/minute but that's mk2

[dense violet]

and putting them in things that are not miners only saves you space

[strong dirge]

Okay but consider: there is no kill like overkill

[dense violet]

ok? that still doesn't make sense as to why you wouldn't OC miners

[strong dirge]

I was talking about the limit of 2k shards on the map and how it would be a "waste" to put them in anything that isn't a miner. My 200% screw production is the only reason I am not bottlenecked on screws atm

[strong dirge]

I didn't say I would never do it, just that I am not really at a point where I need to do it for power yet.

[dense violet]

shards are also infinite. You can put them in every machine past the tier tutorial

[strong dirge]

Infinite use or infinite to produce? I haven't dug deep into game info past my current tier so I can enjoy problem solving without an answer sheet

[white dawn]

Both

They never run out, and you can take them out of machines to repurpose them at any point. Late in the game, you can fully automate their production, and even early in the game you can technically get infinite slugs by taming lizard doggos

[strong dirge]

I knew the first one but not the second. I was under the assumption that slugs were the only way to get shards.

[white dawn]

Nah, Tier 9 tech (or generous doggos) can get you infinite. :)

[dire tapir]

how does a priority fluid merger work from what Iv seen isnt it just having the lower priority imput coming from the top

[novel heath]

you can create synthetic power shards later on, its researched in the mam iirc

[dense violet]

it works off an exploit - basically black magic

[white dawn]

The Pipeline manual's a good reference for that, btw: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[dire tapir]

but it doesnt seem to be working for me Im dong sloppy stuff and the old water is backing up

[dense violet]

yes, it's an unreliable exploit

[dense violet]

rebuild it and hope it works this time

or use another method

[strong dirge]

Well then I will be less stingy with how I use them then. Looks like my power grid needs an upgrade followed by revamping my primary production site so I can better tap those three normal iron nodes.

[cosmic condor]

Ah, the joy of simply rotating a water extractor and moving the pump a little closer and watching all your water flow issues wash away as your pipes fill and the coal begins to burn once more.

[dire tapir]

and if I use valves to the exact numbers they dont seem to be gettin enough water

[dense violet]

yes, valves are not good for this either

direct feeding is fairly unreliable, especially with valves

[white dawn]

The other way to extend them, btw, (in case this hasn't already been mentioned -- being lazy and not scrolling back) is to turn the slugs into shards inside Constructors, and use Somersloops on the constructors so you get twice as many

[dire tapir]

i wish i could just pump water back to the ocean like why cant we do that

[white dawn]

Honestly even just using the map's slugs' worth of shards is a lot more than most people are likely to need in a playthrough

[dense violet]

just use a split waste system

it's reliable and easy

[strong dirge]

That was my plan but I don't have the sloop research for it yet

[strong dirge]

Or drink it. Let me drink the irritated water from my power plant

So efficiency question: is it more efficient to combine nodes onto one belt or feed from them separately

Considering the coffee can't leave the mug the Pioneer must be so thirsty

[white dawn]

Depends how you define "efficiency"

In practice, that particular distinction probably doesn't matter for most folks

[strong dirge]

Maximizing output

[dense violet]

it's generally far more awkward because most of the time going up the tiers you're belt limited from miners

[white dawn]

That still doesn't really narrow it down much based on your original question. :)

If you mean efficiency to mean "I want to use 100% of the material being mined from this node," then that's easy to do no matter how you belt them (with the caveat about belt speed that CobaltOfDoom mentioned)

[dense violet]

pinged you in other channel

[frail sleet]

There are a couple of ways of doing it. One uses a well understood bug, and the other one uses a less well understood bug.

There isn't actually any intended way ingame to prioritise competing fluid lines as fluid.

[dire tapir]

i saw this means i have to rebuild everything im processinmg 2160 bauxite

[dense violet]

better than having a non functional useless one

[ocean frost]

You normally combine them till you get a number that you like to work with

30, 60, 120, 240, 600, 1200 or what floats your boat

[dense violet]

just repipe and re clock things, it'll probably be fine

[strong dirge]

It was belt limits that had me wondering if running belts for each separately could result in faster output for faster production or if there is no difference of running it off a single manifold belt

[dense violet]

also don't merge all the waste waters together

[dire tapir]

I dont have the mental capacity left 2nite

imma leave it to future me

[dense violet]

well you likely can't fit the output of 3 miners onto 1 belt

for example

just base your system off belt throughput - does your belt have enough throughpout?

if yes? great
if no? prob have multiple systems

[white dawn]

240/min Iron can produce x/min of a resource. If you have three of those, you can make 3*x/min of that resource in three little modules. Or, if your belt speed supports it, you could combine all 720/min onto a single belt, but you'd still just be making 3*x/min of that resource

[open swallow]

throughput is throughput... if your miner produces 120/min, then it's gonna produce that much whether you put it on one belt or share it with three, assuming that shared belt has enough capacity

you're not going to squeeze any more blood out of the stone by belt shenanigans

[dense violet]

just pay attention to throughput and design accordingly

it's just if you're OCing miners to max or near max you are unlikely going to be able to fit more than 1 miner on a belt

[strong dirge]

Belt capacity was where I was making a slip since I was capped there but didn't have the output to support more smelters at the time. Well when I get home it's time to redo my power grid. Then tackle my production. At least I have most of Tier 4 unlocked now and am passively mining quartz over a Km of belt so I can make the outputs. But I need to fix my iron and steel production properly so I can do this Project Assembly tier sometime this year

[white dawn]

Chop chop! FICSMAS approaches! ⌚ 👈

[somber monolith]

Do train tracks prevent enemy spawns?

[strong dirge]

Well back to work with me! Thanks for the info! Now I can spend time thinking about design and fix my shortfalls

[open swallow]

ah, so you're debating putting it all on one manifold versus direct feeding

[cosmic condor]

More than that. Getting some exciting vertical ideas for my next builds. I guess being limited by space can be just another challenge to overcome. Maybe I'll even use walls for once. (referring to blueprints

[strong dirge]

Yup. I wasn't sure which would feed faster when combining nodes when belt speed caps feed rate

[open swallow]

I split into multiple manifolds if the main belt gets too saturated

[dense violet]

you can do 'injection' manifolds, but those are just multiple manifolds interconnected

like everything in this game yo ucan make things as complicated or simple as you like

[strong dirge]

My next project once I get production sorted is a space elevator port that automatically gets fed with project assembly parts so once I have that part set up it feeds passively

[open swallow]

imo: don't fuck with that

hand-feed the space elevator

[strong dirge]

There is a simple way to do things?

[dense violet]

very much so

[white dawn]

Eh, setting up auto-elevator deliveries can be satisfying. I generally have vehicle+train+drone intake for my elevator. :D

Though the annoying thing is that you've gotta head in to re-do bits of it inbetween phases, since the belts will otherwise get clogged

[strong dirge]

I just want to justify building a space port structure and having it self feed so number go up as I work seemed like a fun project.

Plus I can build a store under the port this way too.

[white dawn]

I should really submit my "give the elevator an Overflow output" feature request to the Questions site

(Not that I expect that to ever really be on their radar)

[dense violet]

wouldn't that just be a smart splitter?

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO it's fun to do. As I say, the main annoying thing is that you've sort of got to go in and manually clear things out inbetween phases

[strong dirge]

Yeah but it would be neat if it had one built in for early game

[dense violet]

iirc you can unlock smart splitters tier.. 2? or something silly like that

very early on

[white dawn]

The problem is there's only six inputs on the elevator and a lot more parts than that that need to be delivered. You can sushi-belt material in, for sure, but once you're done with one phase's deliveries, you need to at least go clean out the intake belts 'cause they'll be clogged

[dense violet]

a bit of a nothing problem but sure

[somber monolith]

It’s once you unlock pipes

[white dawn]

'cause there'll always be at least a little bit of conveyor belt going into the elevator which has a part the elevator won't take anymore (I mean, unless you're sending exactly the right quantities of parts)

[strong dirge]

For some reason I thought there were 12. Well 6 is one per phase with one extra

[white dawn]

Oh sure, not saying this is a huge concern of mine. But I would like to be able to hook up elevator-part delivery once and then not have to touch it for the rest of the game. :) (And an "overflow" output on the elevator where it'd spit out unwanted material instead of clogging the belts would be one way to solve that)

[dense violet]

I don't think that's correct. You can unlock it in caterium research before you finish phase 1

[white dawn]

Yeah, you can definitely set it up to handle your auto-deliveries for a single phase, at the very least. :D

[somber monolith]

You need copper sheets so if you don’t go to drop pods it’s once you get pipes but if you do you could do it phase one

[strong dirge]

I have pipes and researched quickwire but the next step is still a question mark

[somber monolith]

Try research it some are question marks

[strong dirge]

I was thinking it could have a sushi manifold ending in a Sink so I can just merge in each phase into it and dump the excess automatically

[dense violet]

copper sheets are also unlocked tier 2

[white dawn]

Yeah, that mostly works; the issue is that the bit of belt inbetween the Smart Splitter and the Elevator will end up with "old" elevator parts on it, which will "clog" the port once you finish the deliveries

[strong dirge]

I will have to check that when I get home and then feel like an idiot

[white dawn]

And there's no real way to clean that out apart from dismantling the belt and then rebuilding

[strong dirge]

That's why I was going to end the manifold line with the sink and not just the overflow.

[somber monolith]

Mb u right

[dense violet]

So I guess you could technically have Smart Splitters Tier 1 if you crash pod hunt, but can automate the parts for them by tier 2

[white dawn]

Sure, but there'll still be a bit of belt with "old" parts on it, headed into the elevator. Since you can't attach the smart splitter directly to the Elevator ports. There has to be a bit of belt inbetween, and that belt'll have things that the elevator no longer wants

[strong dirge]

Computers require a pod hunt and RNG being on your side a bit

[white dawn]

(Again, definitely not trying to discourage you on this -- I tend to do this kind of hookup on most of my playthroughs. :) It just requires some manual rejiggering inbetween phases, is all)

[dense violet]

Yeah I don't remember what their research slot costs - but if computers? yeah pods. Though not a hard hunt

[somber monolith]

You definitely wont need to automate smart splitters till phase 2 atleast cause you aren’t making much on bio fuel

[median geyser]

So Ive been watching a few youtube videos for inspiration, and one thing I keep seeing is people pre-mapping out their factory using colored concrete. While this seems like a good idea, Im unsure how to approach actually doing it. For example, Im going to be putting down 26 smelters for my iron and steel factory, so what's the point of coloring out the area when I need to put down the smelters just to know how much space to reserve?

[dense violet]

I mean I often leave smart splitters for AAAGES. Nothing I do needs them early on. But it's there early if people do

[wicked nacelle]

just color the machines if you want that

[strong dirge]

Oh I get what you mean now. Yeah that creates an interesting issue I will have to think about since you don't want to run excess through there all the time.

[wicked nacelle]

also you can change color of foundation very quickly too

[dense violet]

it's pretty important if you're doing architecture stuff and space matters
if you're not? then doesn't really do much no

but if you're doing cool designs? yeah shit tons of planning around space and shape is important

[median geyser]

The idea was that you colored the floors to mark out the space required, allowing you to plan out alignments and such. My point of confusion is that if I need to lay down 26 smelters to color the floors to know where my 26 smelters stop... why dont I just leave the 26 smelters there so I know where they stop? 😂

[wicked nacelle]

I mean you can always retcon a design to your factory unless you're trying to fit a specific shape of some map feature

[white dawn]

Yeah, I just let the intake keep sinking once it starts overflowing. SE parts are good for coupons if nothing else. :)

[strong dirge]

Some people are visual planners and need to mark out space to make sure they have a plan starting from the ground up

[median geyser]

Its not the concept that confuses me, its the application

[white dawn]

And, to be fair, I generally want to head in to add the new logistics intakes for each phase anyway (like adding a train station and drone port to the intake system)

[dense violet]

also valid. If you know how big a machine is you could also just colour the foundations in the video as measurement. Lots of ways

[white dawn]

So I'll be over there regardless. Cleaning out some "old" belts isn't much more effort. :)

[strong dirge]

I was thinking of some kind of system I could shut off the feed to but without manually disconnecting the line I can't think of a good alternative solution yet

[median geyser]

I know theres lots of ways and that its a valid approach, what Im trying to determine is why they do it method A vs B. What's the difference, does it allow anything that my more straightforward approach doesnt that Im not seeing, etc?

[strong dirge]

No idea. I just know some people swear by it.

[dense violet]

don't like having to build an delete machines? faster that way if you know your space

[median geyser]

Basically Im assuming the people I see doing this know more than I do, and so Im trying to learn what the benefits are 😂

[median geyser]

So in theory this only works if you have played enough that you have memorized the dimensions of the machines in question?

[dense violet]

I use machines for potential layouts - more accurate plus you get to look at the space and how its looking

[dense violet]

or don't have to be as detailed in the plan I guess

[dense violet]

When I built this? I needed to know basically every centimeter - so I used machine placement to space things out 😛 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558721941410807812/1285842712741941312/image.png?ex=69289198&is=69274018&hm=6dc34e4ee0a2b4115028d7e2b61e560f3b22ff184f2a2c681cb2e55e5b7768f4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[white dawn]

There is some shenanigans you can play with Priority Power Switches to be able to remotely toggle belts. In the simplest version you take a small amount of iron ore, merge it onto a belt, and have a smart splitter send the ore into a smelter for processing. Put that Smelter behind a Priority Power Switch, so you can disable it remotely. If you turn off the Smelter, the iron ore will "back up" onto the main belt and prevent what's actually supposed to be on the belt from proceeding forward, thus acting as a remote toggle

(A "better" solution to that, IMO, is with a fluid packaging loop, so it's a nice closed system, rather than tying up some iron-or-whatever)

Those kinds of shenanigans were a bit more common prior to Dimensional Depots; folks would use them for on-demand Central Storage "mall" deliveries. Flip some switches, set a drone-or-train schedule, and then wait for your requested materials to show up

Though even with that you'd need to clean out those belts going to the elevator. :)

Unless you were really quick to disable the feed once the elevator's full

[strong dirge]

Interesting. Looks like there are more ideas to consider.

Shame we can't attach something to a belt to trigger for us but I have a feeling that opens a whole can of worms the devs aren't touching.

[sudden flint]

do I make more beams or more pipes with steel production?

[dense violet]

what do you need more of?

[whole drum]

If you're just unlocking steel, make a little more of beams because you'll use them for belts.

I'd go for like 60/40-ish until the demand for one or the other increases

[hard steeple]

If I can make Turbofuel, do I have any reason to keep my normal fuel production up?

[whole drum]

It's cheaper

[sudden flint]

and when you take into acccount encased industrial beams and rotors/stators?

[white dawn]

If you mean for power generation, I generally don't see a good reason to tear down the old stuff

[whole drum]

I start a 2nd steel mill

[hard steeple]

i used to pack a bunch of fuel for my jetpack, but i think maybe just burn it for power instead of for my jetpack

[white dawn]

Maybe if I did really want that specific node (or nodes) for something specific, but for me that basically never happens. :)

(I did once tear down a modest Compacted Coal array because I wanted its sulfur for something else)

[whole drum]

A single packager at 50% that taxes the main power production will give you more jetpack fuel than you'll need.

And you should never be so close to your power generation that such a packager should threaten your grid

[hard steeple]

i was thinking about having my turbo fuel packager set to 25%, and connected to a dimensional storage, so i always have fuel available

[whole drum]

Exactly

[dense violet]

depends on your recipe choice

there's Encased Pipe and Steel Rotor which makes pipes a lot more used

this is why there's no single answer to these questions

[hard steeple]

sweet, sounds like a plan.. and ill burn the rest of the fuel for more power

[sudden flint]

I intend for steel rotors...

[dense violet]

dems gonna need pipes. And iirc Encased Pipe is a resource saver recipe too

if you want you can pretty easily take out basically all need for steel beams

save for versatile frames I think? but I don't really count space parts

[formal badger]

Correct me if im wrong cause I suck at math. Could I use 10 refineries making 400 fuel min going into 14 refineries making turbo fuel which could then power 35 fuel generators?

[dense violet]

depends on yoru recipe cohices

[dense violet]

plug in the recipes you want to use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[formal badger]

Base recipes, ain't that lucky

[sudden flint]

pick up Satisfactory modeler on steam

[formal badger]

I am on xbox 😔

[sudden flint]

dam

[formal badger]

Yeha

[sudden flint]

RIP my guy

[dense violet]

modeler is more of a layout tool anyway. Click the link for a proper planner

[ocean frost]

they both are good planners

just better for different people

[dense violet]

I'd use a lap top or pc though, it's not very mobile friendly.
a pad would also work though

Can't really think of any planner that would be mobile friendly

[whole drum]

I don't think planners are that important until maybe t7+

Most everything else is relatively plug-n-play

[dense violet]

they're important any time you want a plan and don't want to have to spend a bunch of time doing primary school maths and looking things up

[ocean frost]

I use them to compare alts and find nice ratios

[whole drum]

I'm not saying they can't be useful. They just aren't really needed until late game.

The recipes and ratios get more complex the further you progress, so it can be a cognitive load reducer at that point.

[ocean frost]

By the time you need it its normally too late

[sudden flint]

RARGH THE CURSE OF MARK 3 BELTS LIMITING MY MINERS!

[whole drum]

So make mk 4

[ocean frost]

its like insurance by the time you need it its too late

[whole drum]

Nah, the earlier stuff is simple enough to not need it

[ocean frost]

you hit the same issue till mk 6

[whole drum]

I think having a resource map on a 2nd monitor and thinking about how you want to plan your milestone progress as you go is a lot more productive, personally

[wicked nacelle]

It’s smart game design because it means you’re constantly able to build more by either upgrading belts or miners as you progress

[whole drum]

The fact that they do upgrade this way encourages modular designs

For example, a simple 4x1 smelter array blueprint that leaves room on the sides to put up walls and a second floor means you can build horizontally across the terrain or vertically via conveyor lifts.

If you take it a step further, you can pre-build the belt systems so the blueprints can snap together

This is the sort of learning curve the design encourages

[somber monolith]

Is there anything else that I should bulk store? #screenshots message

[sullen gull]

Modeler is very much so a "proper" planner. It just doesn't do it "automatically". Anyone who says otherwise is just being biased

[sudden flint]

why

does 270 belts
NOT MAKE EVEN SMELTERS

RARRRGH

[somber monolith]

?

[whole drum]

???

Treat mk3 belts as "240" unless you have reason to take advantage of the extra 30.

[sudden flint]

sorry foundries

[somber monolith]

Why that’s just producing less for no reason

[sudden flint]

I think it's cuz I have solid steel as my recipie...

[whole drum]

Because if you have any reason to split them into mk2, it's going to wildly throw off your math

Afai can tell, the only real reason they have the extra 30 is for recipes that need a ton of screws/wire

[sullen gull]

The belts are just "carriers" that can move "up to" a certain amount a minute. Trying to plan production around maxing belts will just cause singed brain matter.

[somber monolith]

Is there a way to stop seeing destroyed drop pods in the distance

Is there a setting to make the game remember

[sullen gull]

LOD "bug". Not really

[whole drum]

Dismantle them? Sometimes they still show up at the edge of draw distance tho

[somber monolith]

I have

[whole drum]

Yeah, just is what it is at that point

At least we can dismantle them now...

[sudden flint]

I think that's because of lower detail as things get further away

[quick hound]

Kill. Me.

[somber monolith]

Is there a way to get mk3 miners before automating supercomputers and fused modular frames

[dense violet]

clock machines and they do

[sudden flint]

I know

clocking machines is annoying as frick tho

[dense violet]

check the wiki it tells you what they need

[quick hound]

Yes. 🌟 coupons ⭐️

[dense violet]

it's the main mechanic i nthe game to manage logistics. May as well have soccer players decide to break their legs for no reason

[somber monolith]

Ik what they need but is there enough on the map to get it early

I don’t wanna wait till next teir

[dense violet]

they are unlocked in a tier.. you have to unlock that tier and milestone.

the only tier flexible items are MAM unlocks

[grim carbon]

I have a chainsaw in my hand and biofuel in my inventory

How do I put the biofuel in my chainsaw?

[sullen gull]

Solid or liquid?

[grim carbon]

Solid

[sullen gull]

Don't need to, so long as it is in your inventory

[grim carbon]

How do I use it then?

[dense violet]

use it like any other tool slot item

[sullen gull]

Just put it your hand, switch to it, point at a tree, and click

click+hold till gone

[grim carbon]

I did and nothing g happens

[sullen gull]

Can also use R to switch from Single mode to Area mode.

[sudden flint]

o-o
doesn't mean setting the clockspeed isn't annoying

[grim carbon]

Wait a sec

[whole drum]

It's bio-fuel, not bio-mass, correct?

[grim carbon]

It’s biomass

[sullen gull]

It's reallly not. Especially since you can point to a machine and CTRL+C/V to copy paste settings between mutiple machines.

[grim carbon]

Damn!

[dense violet]

it's the least annoying logistic management method avaialble

[dense violet]

make solid bio mass

[grim carbon]

I just noticed that

Ok. Thanks

What’s those super tall creatures that just walk around called?

[sullen gull]

Steve

[whole drum]

Target practice

[sullen gull]

Annoying....

Bouncy beans....

[grim carbon]

You guys!

[sullen gull]

I didn't do it....

[sudden flint]

MR. BEAN MCPLUMB V WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED IN MY HOUSEHOLD YOU HEATHEN!

[sullen gull]

But ... But .... I'm not in your house....

[merry granite]

Anyone know why my blueprint designer machine is invisible? restarting doesnt work its been going on for a while

like the interactable thing for the blueprint designer

[sullen gull]

The small computer station on one end?

[merry granite]

yeah

[sullen gull]

Would need an overhead screen shot

[merry granite]

#screenshots

[sullen gull]

And a reload didn't fix it? Try to delete the blueprint designer and remake? Modded?

[merry granite]

Nope, vanilla. Happens with every blueprint designer

i am on linux, proton

[sullen gull]

If since last update, I would make a post on the QA site.

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @sullen gull

[gentle lion]

Dimensional Depot..am I understanding correctly when first unlocked I can put one stack of EVERY item.in it? Just limited to the 15/min upload speed?

[grim carbon]

What happens to all the wood that falls from cut trees?

[sullen gull]

Yes

[sullen gull]

Goes to your inventory pocket dimension

[grim carbon]

What’s a pocket dimension?

[sullen gull]

Idk, that's what ADA calls it at some point I thought 😛

[grim carbon]

If she did I must not have been paying attention

[sullen gull]

"R&D inflated your pocket-dimension."

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Inventory

[grim carbon]

R&D?

I know nothing

[gentle lion]

Thanks.

[sullen gull]

usually stands for research and development 😛

[grim carbon]

Oh

Duh

[brazen coral]

Apparently it was manifolds I was thinking of, balancers were not the issue

[grim carbon]

Good night guys

[gentle lion]

This screenshot makes me feel like I haven't built any production lines big enough ...
#screenshots message

How do you all do it?

Just give them time to fill up one at a time?

[sullen gull]

Heh, I had a guy from my friend group called bdub... short for "bong water" cause he kept spilling it I guess 🤣. Anyhow, those are just manifolds. I feel many do the same, just different flavors. Like I like doing everything under the floor.... #screenshots message

[cunning lily]

Is there a way to "cut" my parachute? Once I'm over what I want to land at?

[sullen gull]

C twice

[hollow onyx]

do you guys consider talking about phase 5 content as spoilers

[sullen gull]

or Crouch if remapped

[ocean frost]

Not really

[sullen gull]

Doubt it. has been done before. But, if worried, can ask for production help in #math-and-meta

[gentle lion]

Lol mines just first name b last w so dub.

I feel like it woukd tame forever for multiple constructors to ramp up.

Unless I'm just too early in game. Only mk2 miners with mk3 belts

[ivory wadi]

Chat this game is hurting my head

And I drank NyQuil

[gentle lion]

Wait you got splitters and mergers on the ceilings ? Do they do that lol

[sullen gull]

If not "prefilling", it can take a while to "balance out". But, imo, it's always best to let all the lines fill up before starting. And, typical rule is belts between splitters/mergers at max input/output amount, and belts between mergers/splitters and machine at machine output/input rate.

[sullen gull]

They do snap to the bottom of foundations.

But, the majority of those are the same blueprints made in a MK3 blueprint designer....

So it makes "quick work".

[stone stag]

Anyone down to play im on PS5

[sullen gull]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[stone stag]

!lfg

[raven axle]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/1201555265942724758 and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[novel heath]

is that new?

[frail sleet]

nope

[novel heath]

whats it called? i presume its in the awsome shop?

[frail sleet]

No, you just put it there

you might need awesome shop for the belt fittings, and the stackable pipe support doesn't fit on ceiling so you have to place those more awkwardly

[novel heath]

alright

[sullen gull]

Celing mounts. They stack.

[white cloak]

Hey y'all should I avoid putting power shards in my fuel-powered generators or is that fine?

[frail sleet]

pipe ceiling mounts?

I guess i could put that a different way if so. Building a pipe on ceiling creates an unstackable mount. Building a belt creates a stackable one

[dense violet]

if you have spare shards? why not

[frail sleet]

it's fine

[dense violet]

just make sure you have enough for other things you might want to do like miners

[sullen gull]

Oh, though we were still talking belts. my bad

[white cloak]

Don't they reduce the efficiency of things?

I have like 700 shards

[dense violet]

no? all it does is save space, but that can be nice

[frail sleet]

not power gens, they only make those more compact

[white cloak]

KK, thanks

[frail sleet]

and less e.g. pipework

[dense violet]

over clocking other machines also barely draws more power too, so there's really never a downside to using shards unless you're running out

[white cloak]

Huh

[dense violet]

well if you over clock an assembler, it'll take more power, but overall, veyr litle. So no real down side to that either

[sullen gull]

@frail sleet For pipes, I just use the pipe wall mounts and nudge 😛

[frail sleet]

https://i.imgur.com/7bIw3tq.png

to get a 2x efficiency boost you have to go all the way down from 250% to 27%

can be helpful sometimes though, mainly with particle accelerators and encoders that you don't want to sloop in P9 since they have an extremely disproportionate power-per-building.

[novel heath]

i like to do it for my rocket fuel generators cause it simplifies ratios

[wary perch]

Different liquids aren’t in the awesome shop…even though I want them to so I can have eggnog in my coffee cup

[median geyser]

Is there a convex wall corner? Trying to make a square pyramid base

[hard ivy]

29%, but yeah

And 11.6% to get double the efficiency of 100%

[somber monolith]

Why are my storage containers only outputting through 1 exit instead of both

[hard ivy]

An ISC is not a splitter. It'll only output through both belts if it's (partially) full or being filled faster than a single belt can handle

But tbh I'd only connect the output from an ISC if it's to a train platform or depot. And for that, it doesn't matter that it's not a splitter

[somber monolith]

I am connecting it to a train I was tryna see if I could double loading speed

[ocean frost]

If it's full it should output on both belts

[hard ivy]

You can, but it looks like right now it's just acting as a passthrough. You're inputting one belt (or less), and the platform has space and it's accepting items. In that case, it doesn't matter that it's only using one output, all the items you're putting in end up in the platform.

When a train docks, the platforms will pause for 27 seconds. In that time, the items will accumulate in the container. And then 2 belts will be useful because then the container will have enough items to load at double speed and it'll quickly make up the difference those 27 seconds caused

[somber monolith]

Is there anything more I should bulk store? #screenshots message

[elder light]

no matter how many u store , it will never be enough bro

[white cloak]

Is there truly no way to avoid Mk2 pipes glitching out?

[hard ivy]

There's infinite ways because they don't glitch out

[white cloak]

I keep running into an issue where I just get a loading symbol in my mk2s and I have to replace them one by one

[hard ivy]

I'd blame that on mods because this is the first time I'm hearing of an issue like that

Unless you aren't using any, then I have absolutely no clue

[white cloak]

I was and then I turned them off and still got the same issue

Nothing piping-related

Just the zoop mod and the more power methods mod

[elder light]

u mean ur pipe keeps empty?

[white cloak]

Yeah, or at least they behave like that when there's a loading symbol

Even when the next segment back is full

[elder light]

remove them and build again ?

i met this problem yesterday and fixed by replacing them

[white cloak]

Yeah that fixed it for me too

I just worry about running into that problem again

don't want to make a huge pipe system and have to do that all over again when I switch to turbo

[hard ivy]

Actually, I do have one idea. Auto-connect. It's allowed to connect 2 pipes with different fluids. That has caused me issues once, though not nearly as bad as having to rebuild pipes

[white cloak]

Ahhh that may be it

[sharp basin]

Can we import blueprints on PS5?

[hard ivy]

Prolly not

[sterile blade]

Why do you suggest them the slowest manifold filling method (belts to machines being slow instead of fast)?

[sharp basin]

Shit, wanted to make roads but seems to be such a pain in the ***

[sullen gull]

How do you figure?

[hard ivy]

Math XD

The fastest fill method is smart splitters to fill 1 at a time

[sterile blade]

You can make blueprints... 😅

[sullen gull]

How is that "slower"? If a machine only takes 60/minute, then why does the belt going immediately into it have to be anything more than a mk1? And if I have 3 pulling at 60, then the "main belt" is going to be a mk3 ....

[sharp basin]

I know! 🙂

[sullen gull]

Ooof, just recorded a 5 hour clip on accident of my building these tendril things lol

[sharp basin]

But I feel turns won’t be easy on console

[hard ivy]

If a machine takes exactly 60, then it's faster to use mk1s. But if it takes any less than that, then it's much slower

[little kettle]

The most efficient manifold is a hybrid manifold, where, for example, a 240 belt would split into 2 120 belts to make the overflow process smoother and quicker

[zenith pecan]

Ouch!

[sterile blade]

That's doable only when input matches belt speed exactly. In any other case (eg: machine needing 55/min) it just increases the total fill up time
Ie: makes things fast only in some specific cases

[sterile blade]

I don't do circles anyway 🤷‍♂️ 😆

[sullen gull]

If a machine only takes 10, still, why use anything more than a mk1?

Still confused but don't really care either ...

[sterile blade]

Tbh, I've yet to understand what they are 😅
They do look cool though~

[sharp basin]

90 degrees turns for your roads?!

[hard ivy]

Because it'll take longer to reach 100% output on all machines if you use mk1s

[little kettle]

What people want to do is speed up the process off overfilling

[sterile blade]

Adding some pillars and stuff to make things look rounder, but yeah

[hard ivy]

And because using all the same belt is faster than constantly switching

[sullen gull]

The only "switching" is between the manifold "main line" and the machine 😕 .... "FICSIT TIP NO. 19 Faster belts don't necessarily mean faster production. " 😏

Which, is usually a LOWER speed belt....

[sterile blade]

I mean, don't get me wrong... I prefer using slow belts, but if your intention was to suggest the ways to make manifolds fill up the fastest (which seemed the topic), that's just not it (unless input matches belt speed, which can be achieved with clocking but rarely for more than one input item)

[sullen gull]

Think of them as "tenticles", or tendrils, that have just come down from a ship, found a node, and has "enveloped" it ..

[sterile blade]

Imo, the slowest a belt, the nicest it looks
Or well... The less the items on it just look like blurs

[sterile blade]

I'm assuming it's a "belt wrapper"?

[sullen gull]

There are [will be] a belt in each one, yes. Eventually they will all collect at the center of the map and go up into a giant craft in the sky and be "processed", if my PC doesn't die first. Not sure the "plan" yet for production. Everything needed for full nuke and then space elevator parts with the rest 🤷‍♂️ .

[normal arch]

Guys, i am about to go on a mission to the north to find an army of doggos. Is it best to use a train with an empty freight car to transport them?

[sharp basin]

Is it possible 1.2 gives us « natural » curved roads since it’s a truck update?

[void gorge]

You can have loops if you want

[sharp basin]

I’m watching videos now about how to make curves

Seems awful

[somber monolith]

Do you need to use uranium atall to beat the game? Is it only for power

[ocean frost]

power

[somber monolith]

Nothing else?

[ocean frost]

and extra challenge

[sullen gull]

Nuke Noblisks

[hard ivy]

It can be used for power, drone/vehicle fuel and nukes

[sullen gull]

Lol, why the no and thumbs down? uranium is definately used for those :P. And, goes towards the achievement for mam research .. soooo ... 🤷‍♂️

Though, I guess just unlocking them doesn't need uranium

Oh, yes it does. Need some Encased Uranium cells...

[sharp basin]

Do trains tracks have curves? If they do, I might just skip the trucks part of the game

[ocean frost]

yes

[sharp basin]

Ooof

[steel kelp]

Its not that bad but its rather annoying

[normal arch]

Guys, should i use a train to transport doggos?

[steel kelp]

With auto connect you can make curves pretty easy w rail tracks

[sullen gull]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[sterile blade]

Stick to the rectangle-gang, they can look cool too! :D

[whole drum]

No, the trianguloids will reign supreme!

We even have a giant eye in the middle of our logo to keep watch on the rest of you, so beware.

[graceful basalt]

is there a way to make it so that my miners are overclocked on the production planner on satisfactory calculator. its wanting me to use 5 mk1 miners, but 3 will work if i overclock to 200%

[merry granite]

@sullen gull are those pipes or rails or hypertubes in your video in #screenshots ?

[sullen gull]

Beams.... lots and lots of beams 😛

[merry granite]

wait wha? do they serve a purpose?

[sullen gull]

Over 44,000 last I checked 🤣

[merry granite]

they look nice

[sullen gull]

They will. If you scroll back, I've explained it a few times.

[merry granite]

ah okay, they wrap around conveyor belts

thats cool

or will wrap around conveyor belts

you should do like a spiral form around something to go into the giant thing in the sky

with all your conveyors

that would be hard to make it work though

[sullen gull]

I have some ideas on how I am going to get them up, but I have 420+ nodes to do this too before I get that far 😭 🤣

[merry granite]

yikes

[merry granite]

dont burn yourself out

[leaden turret]

@void gorge how's the froords today?

[north summit]

I can’t wait for Satisfactory 2.0 when there’s just a planet full of nothing except impure coal nodes

[sullen reef]

SCREENSHOTS

HELP PLEASE LAMO

[void gorge]

Back in the office and more or less snot free but stream tomorrow cuz voice and ears are a bit stuffy

[sullen reef]

roundabout is getting clogged all the time

[leaden turret]

#1038092680493801533 if nobody responds promptly in this channel

[sullen reef]

there are 10 stations around it and i cant rework everything as factory bellow is too complex to touch lol

i wish i understood path signals fully

what to do with plutonium waste?

[leaden turret]

have you tried swapping path signals for block signals?

[sullen reef]

block signals were there originally

[whole drum]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/456109329456562187/1443546410858582097

[leaden turret]

health comes first

(i.e. don't be doing the stream if you're feeling worse than you did when you streamed when sleep-deprived)

[normal arch]

I am about to make a large factory that will be permanent. Got any advice for making it neat and good looking?

[sullen gull]

Logistics floors

4m to 8m subfloor between each factory floor 🙂

[normal arch]

You mean an entire floor simply for logistics like conveyers?

[normal arch]

Wdym by subfloor?

[sullen gull]

Just what it says lol, a floor under the floor 😏

[ocean frost]

leave yourself space for belts walking production steps

[sullen gull]

Place your first "foundation floor" of the factory, use a 4m foundation for spacing, another 2m foundation floor, then go 14m up, 32 if you want refineries to fit with space above, put another floor, space another 4m or 8m up, then your next floor.

If you use 2m or 4m wide walls you can hide/inset lifts into them, hide power, pipes, etc.

All this is in response to "clean" btw 😏

[blissful latch]

What would be a better idea

1. Building aluminium plant fully planing ahead for tier 9 and remembering what belts to upgrade.
2. Small starter factory then deconstruct for a bigger one later on

[ocean frost]

build a small one for milestones and a larger one for production

[blissful latch]

I’ll build spaghetti to get aluminium for belts n’ stuff but I should of said main production

Cause building fully involves 220 smelters

[ocean frost]

you can build it in bataches

[dense violet]

drone it to storage?
or better yet, don't make it in the first place

[ocean frost]

phase 1 -4

[blissful latch]

Because a big chunk is purely for ||trigons||

And the cubes

[stone python]

ya, those dang triangles take a lot of aluminum

though i way overbuilt mine and make way more than i ever used in my previous world

[sullen gull]

92 refineries, 164 smelters, and 13 water extractors to produce 12,300 ingot using alts and overclocking everything.

[merry granite]

do you guys ever just completely forget about a factory

i completely forgot for the past like 20-30 hours that I have a computer factory in the middle of nowhere lmao

[leaden turret]

was it plugged in at least?

[limpid cairn]

yes

[merry granite]

yes

[leaden turret]

free computers, yay

[merry granite]

https://tenor.com/view/letterloop-remember-dance-answer-me-guys-gif-10736610824234930483

no embeds :(

[leaden turret]

people can't be trusted with them in the main channel

[merry granite]

yeah thats fair

I think something like that could be resolved by a simple discord feature to be honest

like automatic hiding of images in chat so they take up little real estate, with an option to expand them

im getting offtrack for satisfactory though, apologies

[iron rock]

When new update

[fiery pewter]

Soon_tm_

[dense violet]

2029

[cinder shuttle]

is there anywhere where i can find ppl to play with